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qjoryy | architecture_train | 0.97 | US Architects of Reddit, how is that possible that a windowless dorm is legal? I am surfing the internet on a lazy Sunday morning and find this article: https://www.independent.com/2021/10/28/architect-resigns-in-protest-over-ucsb-mega-dorm/ It is crazy to me that somebody can seriously propose a crime against humanity like this and meet building codes and actually being approved by all competent autorities? Looking at the architectural plan, it looks like something not even the worst of the Politburo architects during the 1960's URSS would dream of: https://twitter.com/spokanerising/status/1453927747277840388/photo/1 | hirgwnm | hirhs3z | 1,635,687,649 | 1,635,688,113 | 117 | 440 | The way this is divided into "houses" of 64 people, with 8 people to a shared table & bathroom and 8 subdivisions to a "house" is kinda crazy. It forces interaction with those 8 or 64 people only and closes you off completely from the rest of the dorm. It's like the architect read Harry Potter and was like - "Yea, I want to build that dormitory but in the cheapest and most inexpensive way possible. And because there's laws about everyone sleeping in the same room, we'll just have to partition everyone to their own cell." | > Munger maintains the small living quarters would coax residents out of their rooms and into larger common areas, where they could interact and collaborate. What an incredibly stupid way of thinking. | 0 | 464 | 3.760684 | ||
qjoryy | architecture_train | 0.97 | US Architects of Reddit, how is that possible that a windowless dorm is legal? I am surfing the internet on a lazy Sunday morning and find this article: https://www.independent.com/2021/10/28/architect-resigns-in-protest-over-ucsb-mega-dorm/ It is crazy to me that somebody can seriously propose a crime against humanity like this and meet building codes and actually being approved by all competent autorities? Looking at the architectural plan, it looks like something not even the worst of the Politburo architects during the 1960's URSS would dream of: https://twitter.com/spokanerising/status/1453927747277840388/photo/1 | hirhs3z | hireq9p | 1,635,688,113 | 1,635,686,422 | 440 | 95 | > Munger maintains the small living quarters would coax residents out of their rooms and into larger common areas, where they could interact and collaborate. What an incredibly stupid way of thinking. | There was a thread from some architecture subreddit talking about this, apparently there was some code which specified that it was possible to use artificial windows of a certain lux level in place of windows. How the fuck something like that is allowed for a place of residence is beyond me, but I'm not familiar with US codes. I was thinking they would run into issues with ventilation, but I have no idea. Also this was designed by some non architecturally trained billionaire who threw some cash to get some architect with zero ethics and is an embarrassment to the profession to sign it off probably. | 1 | 1,691 | 4.631579 | ||
qjoryy | architecture_train | 0.97 | US Architects of Reddit, how is that possible that a windowless dorm is legal? I am surfing the internet on a lazy Sunday morning and find this article: https://www.independent.com/2021/10/28/architect-resigns-in-protest-over-ucsb-mega-dorm/ It is crazy to me that somebody can seriously propose a crime against humanity like this and meet building codes and actually being approved by all competent autorities? Looking at the architectural plan, it looks like something not even the worst of the Politburo architects during the 1960's URSS would dream of: https://twitter.com/spokanerising/status/1453927747277840388/photo/1 | hirhs3z | hird57z | 1,635,688,113 | 1,635,685,491 | 440 | 64 | > Munger maintains the small living quarters would coax residents out of their rooms and into larger common areas, where they could interact and collaborate. What an incredibly stupid way of thinking. | My eyes…. Good god this is dystopian as fuck! | 1 | 2,622 | 6.875 | ||
qjoryy | architecture_train | 0.97 | US Architects of Reddit, how is that possible that a windowless dorm is legal? I am surfing the internet on a lazy Sunday morning and find this article: https://www.independent.com/2021/10/28/architect-resigns-in-protest-over-ucsb-mega-dorm/ It is crazy to me that somebody can seriously propose a crime against humanity like this and meet building codes and actually being approved by all competent autorities? Looking at the architectural plan, it looks like something not even the worst of the Politburo architects during the 1960's URSS would dream of: https://twitter.com/spokanerising/status/1453927747277840388/photo/1 | hire09c | hirhs3z | 1,635,686,008 | 1,635,688,113 | 31 | 440 | > even the worst of the Politburo architects during the 1960's URSS would dream of You clearly know nothing of soviet architecture. As for this project, it's the work of someone who think himself ever so smart for made his money gaming the system and now fancies himself an architect. I can smell the copy/paste from here. And for your basic question , light and ventilation are provided mechanically so there is no "need" for windows (note the quote marks). | > Munger maintains the small living quarters would coax residents out of their rooms and into larger common areas, where they could interact and collaborate. What an incredibly stupid way of thinking. | 0 | 2,105 | 14.193548 | ||
qjoryy | architecture_train | 0.97 | US Architects of Reddit, how is that possible that a windowless dorm is legal? I am surfing the internet on a lazy Sunday morning and find this article: https://www.independent.com/2021/10/28/architect-resigns-in-protest-over-ucsb-mega-dorm/ It is crazy to me that somebody can seriously propose a crime against humanity like this and meet building codes and actually being approved by all competent autorities? Looking at the architectural plan, it looks like something not even the worst of the Politburo architects during the 1960's URSS would dream of: https://twitter.com/spokanerising/status/1453927747277840388/photo/1 | hirgwnm | hirtz7o | 1,635,687,649 | 1,635,693,889 | 117 | 342 | The way this is divided into "houses" of 64 people, with 8 people to a shared table & bathroom and 8 subdivisions to a "house" is kinda crazy. It forces interaction with those 8 or 64 people only and closes you off completely from the rest of the dorm. It's like the architect read Harry Potter and was like - "Yea, I want to build that dormitory but in the cheapest and most inexpensive way possible. And because there's laws about everyone sleeping in the same room, we'll just have to partition everyone to their own cell." | 4500 students and 2 exits? Few windows. Should name the building Firetrap Hall. | 0 | 6,240 | 2.923077 | ||
qjoryy | architecture_train | 0.97 | US Architects of Reddit, how is that possible that a windowless dorm is legal? I am surfing the internet on a lazy Sunday morning and find this article: https://www.independent.com/2021/10/28/architect-resigns-in-protest-over-ucsb-mega-dorm/ It is crazy to me that somebody can seriously propose a crime against humanity like this and meet building codes and actually being approved by all competent autorities? Looking at the architectural plan, it looks like something not even the worst of the Politburo architects during the 1960's URSS would dream of: https://twitter.com/spokanerising/status/1453927747277840388/photo/1 | hirtz7o | hireq9p | 1,635,693,889 | 1,635,686,422 | 342 | 95 | 4500 students and 2 exits? Few windows. Should name the building Firetrap Hall. | There was a thread from some architecture subreddit talking about this, apparently there was some code which specified that it was possible to use artificial windows of a certain lux level in place of windows. How the fuck something like that is allowed for a place of residence is beyond me, but I'm not familiar with US codes. I was thinking they would run into issues with ventilation, but I have no idea. Also this was designed by some non architecturally trained billionaire who threw some cash to get some architect with zero ethics and is an embarrassment to the profession to sign it off probably. | 1 | 7,467 | 3.6 | ||
qjoryy | architecture_train | 0.97 | US Architects of Reddit, how is that possible that a windowless dorm is legal? I am surfing the internet on a lazy Sunday morning and find this article: https://www.independent.com/2021/10/28/architect-resigns-in-protest-over-ucsb-mega-dorm/ It is crazy to me that somebody can seriously propose a crime against humanity like this and meet building codes and actually being approved by all competent autorities? Looking at the architectural plan, it looks like something not even the worst of the Politburo architects during the 1960's URSS would dream of: https://twitter.com/spokanerising/status/1453927747277840388/photo/1 | hirtz7o | hird57z | 1,635,693,889 | 1,635,685,491 | 342 | 64 | 4500 students and 2 exits? Few windows. Should name the building Firetrap Hall. | My eyes…. Good god this is dystopian as fuck! | 1 | 8,398 | 5.34375 | ||
qjoryy | architecture_train | 0.97 | US Architects of Reddit, how is that possible that a windowless dorm is legal? I am surfing the internet on a lazy Sunday morning and find this article: https://www.independent.com/2021/10/28/architect-resigns-in-protest-over-ucsb-mega-dorm/ It is crazy to me that somebody can seriously propose a crime against humanity like this and meet building codes and actually being approved by all competent autorities? Looking at the architectural plan, it looks like something not even the worst of the Politburo architects during the 1960's URSS would dream of: https://twitter.com/spokanerising/status/1453927747277840388/photo/1 | hire09c | hirtz7o | 1,635,686,008 | 1,635,693,889 | 31 | 342 | > even the worst of the Politburo architects during the 1960's URSS would dream of You clearly know nothing of soviet architecture. As for this project, it's the work of someone who think himself ever so smart for made his money gaming the system and now fancies himself an architect. I can smell the copy/paste from here. And for your basic question , light and ventilation are provided mechanically so there is no "need" for windows (note the quote marks). | 4500 students and 2 exits? Few windows. Should name the building Firetrap Hall. | 0 | 7,881 | 11.032258 | ||
qjoryy | architecture_train | 0.97 | US Architects of Reddit, how is that possible that a windowless dorm is legal? I am surfing the internet on a lazy Sunday morning and find this article: https://www.independent.com/2021/10/28/architect-resigns-in-protest-over-ucsb-mega-dorm/ It is crazy to me that somebody can seriously propose a crime against humanity like this and meet building codes and actually being approved by all competent autorities? Looking at the architectural plan, it looks like something not even the worst of the Politburo architects during the 1960's URSS would dream of: https://twitter.com/spokanerising/status/1453927747277840388/photo/1 | hireq9p | hirgwnm | 1,635,686,422 | 1,635,687,649 | 95 | 117 | There was a thread from some architecture subreddit talking about this, apparently there was some code which specified that it was possible to use artificial windows of a certain lux level in place of windows. How the fuck something like that is allowed for a place of residence is beyond me, but I'm not familiar with US codes. I was thinking they would run into issues with ventilation, but I have no idea. Also this was designed by some non architecturally trained billionaire who threw some cash to get some architect with zero ethics and is an embarrassment to the profession to sign it off probably. | The way this is divided into "houses" of 64 people, with 8 people to a shared table & bathroom and 8 subdivisions to a "house" is kinda crazy. It forces interaction with those 8 or 64 people only and closes you off completely from the rest of the dorm. It's like the architect read Harry Potter and was like - "Yea, I want to build that dormitory but in the cheapest and most inexpensive way possible. And because there's laws about everyone sleeping in the same room, we'll just have to partition everyone to their own cell." | 0 | 1,227 | 1.231579 | ||
qjoryy | architecture_train | 0.97 | US Architects of Reddit, how is that possible that a windowless dorm is legal? I am surfing the internet on a lazy Sunday morning and find this article: https://www.independent.com/2021/10/28/architect-resigns-in-protest-over-ucsb-mega-dorm/ It is crazy to me that somebody can seriously propose a crime against humanity like this and meet building codes and actually being approved by all competent autorities? Looking at the architectural plan, it looks like something not even the worst of the Politburo architects during the 1960's URSS would dream of: https://twitter.com/spokanerising/status/1453927747277840388/photo/1 | hird57z | hirgwnm | 1,635,685,491 | 1,635,687,649 | 64 | 117 | My eyes…. Good god this is dystopian as fuck! | The way this is divided into "houses" of 64 people, with 8 people to a shared table & bathroom and 8 subdivisions to a "house" is kinda crazy. It forces interaction with those 8 or 64 people only and closes you off completely from the rest of the dorm. It's like the architect read Harry Potter and was like - "Yea, I want to build that dormitory but in the cheapest and most inexpensive way possible. And because there's laws about everyone sleeping in the same room, we'll just have to partition everyone to their own cell." | 0 | 2,158 | 1.828125 | ||
qjoryy | architecture_train | 0.97 | US Architects of Reddit, how is that possible that a windowless dorm is legal? I am surfing the internet on a lazy Sunday morning and find this article: https://www.independent.com/2021/10/28/architect-resigns-in-protest-over-ucsb-mega-dorm/ It is crazy to me that somebody can seriously propose a crime against humanity like this and meet building codes and actually being approved by all competent autorities? Looking at the architectural plan, it looks like something not even the worst of the Politburo architects during the 1960's URSS would dream of: https://twitter.com/spokanerising/status/1453927747277840388/photo/1 | hirgwnm | hire09c | 1,635,687,649 | 1,635,686,008 | 117 | 31 | The way this is divided into "houses" of 64 people, with 8 people to a shared table & bathroom and 8 subdivisions to a "house" is kinda crazy. It forces interaction with those 8 or 64 people only and closes you off completely from the rest of the dorm. It's like the architect read Harry Potter and was like - "Yea, I want to build that dormitory but in the cheapest and most inexpensive way possible. And because there's laws about everyone sleeping in the same room, we'll just have to partition everyone to their own cell." | > even the worst of the Politburo architects during the 1960's URSS would dream of You clearly know nothing of soviet architecture. As for this project, it's the work of someone who think himself ever so smart for made his money gaming the system and now fancies himself an architect. I can smell the copy/paste from here. And for your basic question , light and ventilation are provided mechanically so there is no "need" for windows (note the quote marks). | 1 | 1,641 | 3.774194 | ||
qjoryy | architecture_train | 0.97 | US Architects of Reddit, how is that possible that a windowless dorm is legal? I am surfing the internet on a lazy Sunday morning and find this article: https://www.independent.com/2021/10/28/architect-resigns-in-protest-over-ucsb-mega-dorm/ It is crazy to me that somebody can seriously propose a crime against humanity like this and meet building codes and actually being approved by all competent autorities? Looking at the architectural plan, it looks like something not even the worst of the Politburo architects during the 1960's URSS would dream of: https://twitter.com/spokanerising/status/1453927747277840388/photo/1 | hireq9p | hird57z | 1,635,686,422 | 1,635,685,491 | 95 | 64 | There was a thread from some architecture subreddit talking about this, apparently there was some code which specified that it was possible to use artificial windows of a certain lux level in place of windows. How the fuck something like that is allowed for a place of residence is beyond me, but I'm not familiar with US codes. I was thinking they would run into issues with ventilation, but I have no idea. Also this was designed by some non architecturally trained billionaire who threw some cash to get some architect with zero ethics and is an embarrassment to the profession to sign it off probably. | My eyes…. Good god this is dystopian as fuck! | 1 | 931 | 1.484375 | ||
qjoryy | architecture_train | 0.97 | US Architects of Reddit, how is that possible that a windowless dorm is legal? I am surfing the internet on a lazy Sunday morning and find this article: https://www.independent.com/2021/10/28/architect-resigns-in-protest-over-ucsb-mega-dorm/ It is crazy to me that somebody can seriously propose a crime against humanity like this and meet building codes and actually being approved by all competent autorities? Looking at the architectural plan, it looks like something not even the worst of the Politburo architects during the 1960's URSS would dream of: https://twitter.com/spokanerising/status/1453927747277840388/photo/1 | hireq9p | hire09c | 1,635,686,422 | 1,635,686,008 | 95 | 31 | There was a thread from some architecture subreddit talking about this, apparently there was some code which specified that it was possible to use artificial windows of a certain lux level in place of windows. How the fuck something like that is allowed for a place of residence is beyond me, but I'm not familiar with US codes. I was thinking they would run into issues with ventilation, but I have no idea. Also this was designed by some non architecturally trained billionaire who threw some cash to get some architect with zero ethics and is an embarrassment to the profession to sign it off probably. | > even the worst of the Politburo architects during the 1960's URSS would dream of You clearly know nothing of soviet architecture. As for this project, it's the work of someone who think himself ever so smart for made his money gaming the system and now fancies himself an architect. I can smell the copy/paste from here. And for your basic question , light and ventilation are provided mechanically so there is no "need" for windows (note the quote marks). | 1 | 414 | 3.064516 | ||
qjoryy | architecture_train | 0.97 | US Architects of Reddit, how is that possible that a windowless dorm is legal? I am surfing the internet on a lazy Sunday morning and find this article: https://www.independent.com/2021/10/28/architect-resigns-in-protest-over-ucsb-mega-dorm/ It is crazy to me that somebody can seriously propose a crime against humanity like this and meet building codes and actually being approved by all competent autorities? Looking at the architectural plan, it looks like something not even the worst of the Politburo architects during the 1960's URSS would dream of: https://twitter.com/spokanerising/status/1453927747277840388/photo/1 | hirwb4k | his9g1z | 1,635,694,918 | 1,635,700,582 | 65 | 66 | It’s likely a Planned Unit Development (PUD). Basically, the developers & architects claim that they can solve a major problem (like student housing) if the government gives them some leniency with codes/zoning (such as light & air requirements). If accepted, it becomes part of the zoning text for that specific area/plots of land. Egress (life safety) isn’t really the issue here, it’s mental health (well being); therefore, easier for him to argue. “Look, they won’t lose their minds in these screen caves, we’re giving them extra well being over here!” Since this guy is a billionaire, I really hope the city planning officials maintain their integrity through this process. I hope the community boards watch this closely too. Otherwise, I think he can get this absurdity approved. | I'm super concerned about this because college students have really high rates of depression. 39-46% of college students depending on where you read. Cutting students off from fresh air and real sunlight is going to have catastrophic effects. Kind of ruins the whole community dorm vibe when one of the kids in your "house" commits suicide. :( | 0 | 5,664 | 1.015385 | ||
qjoryy | architecture_train | 0.97 | US Architects of Reddit, how is that possible that a windowless dorm is legal? I am surfing the internet on a lazy Sunday morning and find this article: https://www.independent.com/2021/10/28/architect-resigns-in-protest-over-ucsb-mega-dorm/ It is crazy to me that somebody can seriously propose a crime against humanity like this and meet building codes and actually being approved by all competent autorities? Looking at the architectural plan, it looks like something not even the worst of the Politburo architects during the 1960's URSS would dream of: https://twitter.com/spokanerising/status/1453927747277840388/photo/1 | hirwb4k | hird57z | 1,635,694,918 | 1,635,685,491 | 65 | 64 | It’s likely a Planned Unit Development (PUD). Basically, the developers & architects claim that they can solve a major problem (like student housing) if the government gives them some leniency with codes/zoning (such as light & air requirements). If accepted, it becomes part of the zoning text for that specific area/plots of land. Egress (life safety) isn’t really the issue here, it’s mental health (well being); therefore, easier for him to argue. “Look, they won’t lose their minds in these screen caves, we’re giving them extra well being over here!” Since this guy is a billionaire, I really hope the city planning officials maintain their integrity through this process. I hope the community boards watch this closely too. Otherwise, I think he can get this absurdity approved. | My eyes…. Good god this is dystopian as fuck! | 1 | 9,427 | 1.015625 | ||
qjoryy | architecture_train | 0.97 | US Architects of Reddit, how is that possible that a windowless dorm is legal? I am surfing the internet on a lazy Sunday morning and find this article: https://www.independent.com/2021/10/28/architect-resigns-in-protest-over-ucsb-mega-dorm/ It is crazy to me that somebody can seriously propose a crime against humanity like this and meet building codes and actually being approved by all competent autorities? Looking at the architectural plan, it looks like something not even the worst of the Politburo architects during the 1960's URSS would dream of: https://twitter.com/spokanerising/status/1453927747277840388/photo/1 | hirwb4k | hire09c | 1,635,694,918 | 1,635,686,008 | 65 | 31 | It’s likely a Planned Unit Development (PUD). Basically, the developers & architects claim that they can solve a major problem (like student housing) if the government gives them some leniency with codes/zoning (such as light & air requirements). If accepted, it becomes part of the zoning text for that specific area/plots of land. Egress (life safety) isn’t really the issue here, it’s mental health (well being); therefore, easier for him to argue. “Look, they won’t lose their minds in these screen caves, we’re giving them extra well being over here!” Since this guy is a billionaire, I really hope the city planning officials maintain their integrity through this process. I hope the community boards watch this closely too. Otherwise, I think he can get this absurdity approved. | > even the worst of the Politburo architects during the 1960's URSS would dream of You clearly know nothing of soviet architecture. As for this project, it's the work of someone who think himself ever so smart for made his money gaming the system and now fancies himself an architect. I can smell the copy/paste from here. And for your basic question , light and ventilation are provided mechanically so there is no "need" for windows (note the quote marks). | 1 | 8,910 | 2.096774 | ||
qjoryy | architecture_train | 0.97 | US Architects of Reddit, how is that possible that a windowless dorm is legal? I am surfing the internet on a lazy Sunday morning and find this article: https://www.independent.com/2021/10/28/architect-resigns-in-protest-over-ucsb-mega-dorm/ It is crazy to me that somebody can seriously propose a crime against humanity like this and meet building codes and actually being approved by all competent autorities? Looking at the architectural plan, it looks like something not even the worst of the Politburo architects during the 1960's URSS would dream of: https://twitter.com/spokanerising/status/1453927747277840388/photo/1 | his9g1z | hird57z | 1,635,700,582 | 1,635,685,491 | 66 | 64 | I'm super concerned about this because college students have really high rates of depression. 39-46% of college students depending on where you read. Cutting students off from fresh air and real sunlight is going to have catastrophic effects. Kind of ruins the whole community dorm vibe when one of the kids in your "house" commits suicide. :( | My eyes…. Good god this is dystopian as fuck! | 1 | 15,091 | 1.03125 | ||
qjoryy | architecture_train | 0.97 | US Architects of Reddit, how is that possible that a windowless dorm is legal? I am surfing the internet on a lazy Sunday morning and find this article: https://www.independent.com/2021/10/28/architect-resigns-in-protest-over-ucsb-mega-dorm/ It is crazy to me that somebody can seriously propose a crime against humanity like this and meet building codes and actually being approved by all competent autorities? Looking at the architectural plan, it looks like something not even the worst of the Politburo architects during the 1960's URSS would dream of: https://twitter.com/spokanerising/status/1453927747277840388/photo/1 | his1b5f | his9g1z | 1,635,697,088 | 1,635,700,582 | 33 | 66 | That’s pretty fucked even my prison cell had a window | I'm super concerned about this because college students have really high rates of depression. 39-46% of college students depending on where you read. Cutting students off from fresh air and real sunlight is going to have catastrophic effects. Kind of ruins the whole community dorm vibe when one of the kids in your "house" commits suicide. :( | 0 | 3,494 | 2 | ||
qjoryy | architecture_train | 0.97 | US Architects of Reddit, how is that possible that a windowless dorm is legal? I am surfing the internet on a lazy Sunday morning and find this article: https://www.independent.com/2021/10/28/architect-resigns-in-protest-over-ucsb-mega-dorm/ It is crazy to me that somebody can seriously propose a crime against humanity like this and meet building codes and actually being approved by all competent autorities? Looking at the architectural plan, it looks like something not even the worst of the Politburo architects during the 1960's URSS would dream of: https://twitter.com/spokanerising/status/1453927747277840388/photo/1 | hire09c | his9g1z | 1,635,686,008 | 1,635,700,582 | 31 | 66 | > even the worst of the Politburo architects during the 1960's URSS would dream of You clearly know nothing of soviet architecture. As for this project, it's the work of someone who think himself ever so smart for made his money gaming the system and now fancies himself an architect. I can smell the copy/paste from here. And for your basic question , light and ventilation are provided mechanically so there is no "need" for windows (note the quote marks). | I'm super concerned about this because college students have really high rates of depression. 39-46% of college students depending on where you read. Cutting students off from fresh air and real sunlight is going to have catastrophic effects. Kind of ruins the whole community dorm vibe when one of the kids in your "house" commits suicide. :( | 0 | 14,574 | 2.129032 | ||
qjoryy | architecture_train | 0.97 | US Architects of Reddit, how is that possible that a windowless dorm is legal? I am surfing the internet on a lazy Sunday morning and find this article: https://www.independent.com/2021/10/28/architect-resigns-in-protest-over-ucsb-mega-dorm/ It is crazy to me that somebody can seriously propose a crime against humanity like this and meet building codes and actually being approved by all competent autorities? Looking at the architectural plan, it looks like something not even the worst of the Politburo architects during the 1960's URSS would dream of: https://twitter.com/spokanerising/status/1453927747277840388/photo/1 | his9g1z | his6ono | 1,635,700,582 | 1,635,699,414 | 66 | 15 | I'm super concerned about this because college students have really high rates of depression. 39-46% of college students depending on where you read. Cutting students off from fresh air and real sunlight is going to have catastrophic effects. Kind of ruins the whole community dorm vibe when one of the kids in your "house" commits suicide. :( | Turn it into a rest home for billionaires.... and a national monument to the Dunning-Kruger Effect. | 1 | 1,168 | 4.4 | ||
qjoryy | architecture_train | 0.97 | US Architects of Reddit, how is that possible that a windowless dorm is legal? I am surfing the internet on a lazy Sunday morning and find this article: https://www.independent.com/2021/10/28/architect-resigns-in-protest-over-ucsb-mega-dorm/ It is crazy to me that somebody can seriously propose a crime against humanity like this and meet building codes and actually being approved by all competent autorities? Looking at the architectural plan, it looks like something not even the worst of the Politburo architects during the 1960's URSS would dream of: https://twitter.com/spokanerising/status/1453927747277840388/photo/1 | his8qpn | his9g1z | 1,635,700,292 | 1,635,700,582 | 11 | 66 | I was curious how a building that houses that many people can have 2 entrances. I can’t imagine a fire marshal approving that. | I'm super concerned about this because college students have really high rates of depression. 39-46% of college students depending on where you read. Cutting students off from fresh air and real sunlight is going to have catastrophic effects. Kind of ruins the whole community dorm vibe when one of the kids in your "house" commits suicide. :( | 0 | 290 | 6 | ||
qjoryy | architecture_train | 0.97 | US Architects of Reddit, how is that possible that a windowless dorm is legal? I am surfing the internet on a lazy Sunday morning and find this article: https://www.independent.com/2021/10/28/architect-resigns-in-protest-over-ucsb-mega-dorm/ It is crazy to me that somebody can seriously propose a crime against humanity like this and meet building codes and actually being approved by all competent autorities? Looking at the architectural plan, it looks like something not even the worst of the Politburo architects during the 1960's URSS would dream of: https://twitter.com/spokanerising/status/1453927747277840388/photo/1 | hirzh6k | his9g1z | 1,635,696,296 | 1,635,700,582 | 9 | 66 | The person who designed it is a billionaire/real-estate attorney who is 97 years old, he clearly doesn't give a shit about his contribution to the architectural community or the students that will be living in this prison block. | I'm super concerned about this because college students have really high rates of depression. 39-46% of college students depending on where you read. Cutting students off from fresh air and real sunlight is going to have catastrophic effects. Kind of ruins the whole community dorm vibe when one of the kids in your "house" commits suicide. :( | 0 | 4,286 | 7.333333 | ||
qjoryy | architecture_train | 0.97 | US Architects of Reddit, how is that possible that a windowless dorm is legal? I am surfing the internet on a lazy Sunday morning and find this article: https://www.independent.com/2021/10/28/architect-resigns-in-protest-over-ucsb-mega-dorm/ It is crazy to me that somebody can seriously propose a crime against humanity like this and meet building codes and actually being approved by all competent autorities? Looking at the architectural plan, it looks like something not even the worst of the Politburo architects during the 1960's URSS would dream of: https://twitter.com/spokanerising/status/1453927747277840388/photo/1 | his1b5f | hire09c | 1,635,697,088 | 1,635,686,008 | 33 | 31 | That’s pretty fucked even my prison cell had a window | > even the worst of the Politburo architects during the 1960's URSS would dream of You clearly know nothing of soviet architecture. As for this project, it's the work of someone who think himself ever so smart for made his money gaming the system and now fancies himself an architect. I can smell the copy/paste from here. And for your basic question , light and ventilation are provided mechanically so there is no "need" for windows (note the quote marks). | 1 | 11,080 | 1.064516 | ||
qjoryy | architecture_train | 0.97 | US Architects of Reddit, how is that possible that a windowless dorm is legal? I am surfing the internet on a lazy Sunday morning and find this article: https://www.independent.com/2021/10/28/architect-resigns-in-protest-over-ucsb-mega-dorm/ It is crazy to me that somebody can seriously propose a crime against humanity like this and meet building codes and actually being approved by all competent autorities? Looking at the architectural plan, it looks like something not even the worst of the Politburo architects during the 1960's URSS would dream of: https://twitter.com/spokanerising/status/1453927747277840388/photo/1 | his1b5f | hirzh6k | 1,635,697,088 | 1,635,696,296 | 33 | 9 | That’s pretty fucked even my prison cell had a window | The person who designed it is a billionaire/real-estate attorney who is 97 years old, he clearly doesn't give a shit about his contribution to the architectural community or the students that will be living in this prison block. | 1 | 792 | 3.666667 | ||
qjoryy | architecture_train | 0.97 | US Architects of Reddit, how is that possible that a windowless dorm is legal? I am surfing the internet on a lazy Sunday morning and find this article: https://www.independent.com/2021/10/28/architect-resigns-in-protest-over-ucsb-mega-dorm/ It is crazy to me that somebody can seriously propose a crime against humanity like this and meet building codes and actually being approved by all competent autorities? Looking at the architectural plan, it looks like something not even the worst of the Politburo architects during the 1960's URSS would dream of: https://twitter.com/spokanerising/status/1453927747277840388/photo/1 | his6ono | hirzh6k | 1,635,699,414 | 1,635,696,296 | 15 | 9 | Turn it into a rest home for billionaires.... and a national monument to the Dunning-Kruger Effect. | The person who designed it is a billionaire/real-estate attorney who is 97 years old, he clearly doesn't give a shit about his contribution to the architectural community or the students that will be living in this prison block. | 1 | 3,118 | 1.666667 | ||
qjoryy | architecture_train | 0.97 | US Architects of Reddit, how is that possible that a windowless dorm is legal? I am surfing the internet on a lazy Sunday morning and find this article: https://www.independent.com/2021/10/28/architect-resigns-in-protest-over-ucsb-mega-dorm/ It is crazy to me that somebody can seriously propose a crime against humanity like this and meet building codes and actually being approved by all competent autorities? Looking at the architectural plan, it looks like something not even the worst of the Politburo architects during the 1960's URSS would dream of: https://twitter.com/spokanerising/status/1453927747277840388/photo/1 | his8qpn | hishyia | 1,635,700,292 | 1,635,704,196 | 11 | 14 | I was curious how a building that houses that many people can have 2 entrances. I can’t imagine a fire marshal approving that. | Who knows but UCSB said “🖕🏼 all y’all we are building it anyway” money talks and bullshit walks | 0 | 3,904 | 1.272727 | ||
qjoryy | architecture_train | 0.97 | US Architects of Reddit, how is that possible that a windowless dorm is legal? I am surfing the internet on a lazy Sunday morning and find this article: https://www.independent.com/2021/10/28/architect-resigns-in-protest-over-ucsb-mega-dorm/ It is crazy to me that somebody can seriously propose a crime against humanity like this and meet building codes and actually being approved by all competent autorities? Looking at the architectural plan, it looks like something not even the worst of the Politburo architects during the 1960's URSS would dream of: https://twitter.com/spokanerising/status/1453927747277840388/photo/1 | hishyia | hirzh6k | 1,635,704,196 | 1,635,696,296 | 14 | 9 | Who knows but UCSB said “🖕🏼 all y’all we are building it anyway” money talks and bullshit walks | The person who designed it is a billionaire/real-estate attorney who is 97 years old, he clearly doesn't give a shit about his contribution to the architectural community or the students that will be living in this prison block. | 1 | 7,900 | 1.555556 | ||
qjoryy | architecture_train | 0.97 | US Architects of Reddit, how is that possible that a windowless dorm is legal? I am surfing the internet on a lazy Sunday morning and find this article: https://www.independent.com/2021/10/28/architect-resigns-in-protest-over-ucsb-mega-dorm/ It is crazy to me that somebody can seriously propose a crime against humanity like this and meet building codes and actually being approved by all competent autorities? Looking at the architectural plan, it looks like something not even the worst of the Politburo architects during the 1960's URSS would dream of: https://twitter.com/spokanerising/status/1453927747277840388/photo/1 | his8qpn | hirzh6k | 1,635,700,292 | 1,635,696,296 | 11 | 9 | I was curious how a building that houses that many people can have 2 entrances. I can’t imagine a fire marshal approving that. | The person who designed it is a billionaire/real-estate attorney who is 97 years old, he clearly doesn't give a shit about his contribution to the architectural community or the students that will be living in this prison block. | 1 | 3,996 | 1.222222 | ||
d96qiu | architecture_train | 0.92 | Considering quitting architecture school... I need advice [Ask] I'm in my second year of Architecture school and I'm seriously considering changing my major to computer science. My reasons: 1. While I have some great teachers at my university, there are also some quite depressing ones - I mean they aren't working architects and they seem like they became theachers only because they had no other option and just needed the money to survive. And I don't want to become like that. 2. Job prospects don't seem optimistic, even one of the professors told us that an architect 'survives' and there isn't always a happy ending for everyone after graduation. Also the salaries are supposedly low, but I am trying to not base my decision on money. 3. I feel like only 0.001％ of architects get to do the realy cool and interesting stuff. 4. I don't feel passion for the things I do. When we get assigned a project I am not excited, rather I think to myself - 'yet another thing I'll have to make myself do' 5. It feels too demanding - long hours at university, long hours at home. I would like to get a job but I feel like I can't do that. Also in my country there is no BArch, only MArch which means that I have to put in 5 and a half years, whereas computer science has a bachelors. I feel like CS will give me more freedom. Why I decied to study architecture in the first place: 1. I do like design very much, but I also like math, history, philosophy, ect. I thought that Architecture would combine all my intrests. 2. My other option was computer science, which is very trendy in my country, but I figured that I shouldn't choose someting because everyone else is doing it or because it supposedly pays well. I live in Europe so student debt is not an issue, I only worry about having wasted 2 years and needing to start all over again. I am extremely confused. Has anyone been in a similar situation? English is not my native language, please excuse my mistakes. All kinds of advice will be highly appreciated! | f1hie2o | fhjfu5j | 1,569,494,128 | 1,581,645,154 | 4 | 5 | 1.Similar happens with every major-not one major will guarantee best tutors. However if they are not working, or have experience that's quite a problem 2.Correct, everyone jokes that the first thing they do when they work first time is drafting toilets. But it depends on area and economy. 3.True, due to access of money and technology. However there are also a lot of small firms which got big ideas as rising architects. However if you're looking at parametric stuffs, for example, of course not many architect would be able to do it because most are big scale and need specialized technology. 4.Maybe you haven't discovered what you truly like? architecture is rather flexible, so many cross reference between idologies or styles. 5.I won't refute this because it is indeed require long hours for your reasoning, architecture has philosophy too. of course it's not a bucket for everything, but this is also depends on which university you study. for second one, if you like it, you should go for it. Since you're required to go to M.Arch, I guess you still have 3 years left. If bachelor of CS takes about 3 years you won't have anything to lose. You can even get a credit transfer if it's applicable. Do a lot of research on how things are really going on on CS major, what do they study or wether you'll like it. Go and find someone who graduated and look at their portfolio. Hope this helps, and good luck. | sorry for the late reply , i dont want to break you down or anything or discourage you . but like your health is more important . architecture ( to where i live atleast i don't know about your surroundings) is a failed investment . coming from a 3rd year dropout . that was the biggest step i ever took i even wanted to leave at 2nd year because it was driving me insane but my parents kept nagging on me . by the third year i legit considered suicide . it felt weird i was spending a lot of money on a career that might not have any bright future or you could say not well paying ( but it also depends on you , your experience and your luck ) so i had to leave causes : 1 - i had a financial problem in my 3rd year so i felt sympathy for my parents by leaving and felt free and happy 2- paying a lot to earn very little ? nah 3- depressing . only if you wanna get rid of your mental health i would advise it i used to be the kid who loved architecture and trust i still do i miss the shit i used to do but like all the stress and bull shit history courses i fucking hated thay shit and you had dumb colleagues aswell with A while i used to get C which didnt make much sense . i had a major downfall when i left like no kidding i sat in bed for 2 days straught no esting nothing just wanted to disappear but then came happiness and freedom .. anyways i hope you get what you want and you ll reach somewhere . | 0 | 12,151,026 | 1.25 | ||
d96qiu | architecture_train | 0.92 | Considering quitting architecture school... I need advice [Ask] I'm in my second year of Architecture school and I'm seriously considering changing my major to computer science. My reasons: 1. While I have some great teachers at my university, there are also some quite depressing ones - I mean they aren't working architects and they seem like they became theachers only because they had no other option and just needed the money to survive. And I don't want to become like that. 2. Job prospects don't seem optimistic, even one of the professors told us that an architect 'survives' and there isn't always a happy ending for everyone after graduation. Also the salaries are supposedly low, but I am trying to not base my decision on money. 3. I feel like only 0.001％ of architects get to do the realy cool and interesting stuff. 4. I don't feel passion for the things I do. When we get assigned a project I am not excited, rather I think to myself - 'yet another thing I'll have to make myself do' 5. It feels too demanding - long hours at university, long hours at home. I would like to get a job but I feel like I can't do that. Also in my country there is no BArch, only MArch which means that I have to put in 5 and a half years, whereas computer science has a bachelors. I feel like CS will give me more freedom. Why I decied to study architecture in the first place: 1. I do like design very much, but I also like math, history, philosophy, ect. I thought that Architecture would combine all my intrests. 2. My other option was computer science, which is very trendy in my country, but I figured that I shouldn't choose someting because everyone else is doing it or because it supposedly pays well. I live in Europe so student debt is not an issue, I only worry about having wasted 2 years and needing to start all over again. I am extremely confused. Has anyone been in a similar situation? English is not my native language, please excuse my mistakes. All kinds of advice will be highly appreciated! | f1f3355 | fhjfu5j | 1,569,436,055 | 1,581,645,154 | 3 | 5 | All your points apply to every field, not just architecture. Salaries low? Meh, maybe compared to much more difficult engineering fields, but considering architecture school is easy, it's actually good. Bachelor in europe is almost useless, you NEED a Master degree to get any decent job or salary anyway. Why? Because almost everyone will do a master and companies just rather wait 2 more years and get a better employee than save a couple €. | sorry for the late reply , i dont want to break you down or anything or discourage you . but like your health is more important . architecture ( to where i live atleast i don't know about your surroundings) is a failed investment . coming from a 3rd year dropout . that was the biggest step i ever took i even wanted to leave at 2nd year because it was driving me insane but my parents kept nagging on me . by the third year i legit considered suicide . it felt weird i was spending a lot of money on a career that might not have any bright future or you could say not well paying ( but it also depends on you , your experience and your luck ) so i had to leave causes : 1 - i had a financial problem in my 3rd year so i felt sympathy for my parents by leaving and felt free and happy 2- paying a lot to earn very little ? nah 3- depressing . only if you wanna get rid of your mental health i would advise it i used to be the kid who loved architecture and trust i still do i miss the shit i used to do but like all the stress and bull shit history courses i fucking hated thay shit and you had dumb colleagues aswell with A while i used to get C which didnt make much sense . i had a major downfall when i left like no kidding i sat in bed for 2 days straught no esting nothing just wanted to disappear but then came happiness and freedom .. anyways i hope you get what you want and you ll reach somewhere . | 0 | 12,209,099 | 1.666667 | ||
d96qiu | architecture_train | 0.92 | Considering quitting architecture school... I need advice [Ask] I'm in my second year of Architecture school and I'm seriously considering changing my major to computer science. My reasons: 1. While I have some great teachers at my university, there are also some quite depressing ones - I mean they aren't working architects and they seem like they became theachers only because they had no other option and just needed the money to survive. And I don't want to become like that. 2. Job prospects don't seem optimistic, even one of the professors told us that an architect 'survives' and there isn't always a happy ending for everyone after graduation. Also the salaries are supposedly low, but I am trying to not base my decision on money. 3. I feel like only 0.001％ of architects get to do the realy cool and interesting stuff. 4. I don't feel passion for the things I do. When we get assigned a project I am not excited, rather I think to myself - 'yet another thing I'll have to make myself do' 5. It feels too demanding - long hours at university, long hours at home. I would like to get a job but I feel like I can't do that. Also in my country there is no BArch, only MArch which means that I have to put in 5 and a half years, whereas computer science has a bachelors. I feel like CS will give me more freedom. Why I decied to study architecture in the first place: 1. I do like design very much, but I also like math, history, philosophy, ect. I thought that Architecture would combine all my intrests. 2. My other option was computer science, which is very trendy in my country, but I figured that I shouldn't choose someting because everyone else is doing it or because it supposedly pays well. I live in Europe so student debt is not an issue, I only worry about having wasted 2 years and needing to start all over again. I am extremely confused. Has anyone been in a similar situation? English is not my native language, please excuse my mistakes. All kinds of advice will be highly appreciated! | f1fed4r | fhjfu5j | 1,569,442,683 | 1,581,645,154 | 3 | 5 | If you decide to continue with architecture make sure that you learn all of the appropriate drafting software (revit, autocad etc). My university didn't require these for undergrad and I have friends that struggled to find a job without knowing these programs. As for jobs, a great way to get started in the industry is to become a drafter out of school. This opens up the field a bit since you don't just have to apply to architecture firms, as construction companies and contractors also need drafters. I've worked at a tile company, a glazing company and finally now at an architecture firm as a drafter. I love the work and generally I've found most projects, even those that seem mundane, to have something interesting about them. Glazing was especially interesting as I got to draw up the windows that get put into skyscrapers and other big projects. There is a whole construction industry that is looking for new talent, so make sure you consider more than just traditional firms at first. It's a great resume builder for when/if you do decide to go for more traditional architecture. | sorry for the late reply , i dont want to break you down or anything or discourage you . but like your health is more important . architecture ( to where i live atleast i don't know about your surroundings) is a failed investment . coming from a 3rd year dropout . that was the biggest step i ever took i even wanted to leave at 2nd year because it was driving me insane but my parents kept nagging on me . by the third year i legit considered suicide . it felt weird i was spending a lot of money on a career that might not have any bright future or you could say not well paying ( but it also depends on you , your experience and your luck ) so i had to leave causes : 1 - i had a financial problem in my 3rd year so i felt sympathy for my parents by leaving and felt free and happy 2- paying a lot to earn very little ? nah 3- depressing . only if you wanna get rid of your mental health i would advise it i used to be the kid who loved architecture and trust i still do i miss the shit i used to do but like all the stress and bull shit history courses i fucking hated thay shit and you had dumb colleagues aswell with A while i used to get C which didnt make much sense . i had a major downfall when i left like no kidding i sat in bed for 2 days straught no esting nothing just wanted to disappear but then came happiness and freedom .. anyways i hope you get what you want and you ll reach somewhere . | 0 | 12,202,471 | 1.666667 | ||
d96qiu | architecture_train | 0.92 | Considering quitting architecture school... I need advice [Ask] I'm in my second year of Architecture school and I'm seriously considering changing my major to computer science. My reasons: 1. While I have some great teachers at my university, there are also some quite depressing ones - I mean they aren't working architects and they seem like they became theachers only because they had no other option and just needed the money to survive. And I don't want to become like that. 2. Job prospects don't seem optimistic, even one of the professors told us that an architect 'survives' and there isn't always a happy ending for everyone after graduation. Also the salaries are supposedly low, but I am trying to not base my decision on money. 3. I feel like only 0.001％ of architects get to do the realy cool and interesting stuff. 4. I don't feel passion for the things I do. When we get assigned a project I am not excited, rather I think to myself - 'yet another thing I'll have to make myself do' 5. It feels too demanding - long hours at university, long hours at home. I would like to get a job but I feel like I can't do that. Also in my country there is no BArch, only MArch which means that I have to put in 5 and a half years, whereas computer science has a bachelors. I feel like CS will give me more freedom. Why I decied to study architecture in the first place: 1. I do like design very much, but I also like math, history, philosophy, ect. I thought that Architecture would combine all my intrests. 2. My other option was computer science, which is very trendy in my country, but I figured that I shouldn't choose someting because everyone else is doing it or because it supposedly pays well. I live in Europe so student debt is not an issue, I only worry about having wasted 2 years and needing to start all over again. I am extremely confused. Has anyone been in a similar situation? English is not my native language, please excuse my mistakes. All kinds of advice will be highly appreciated! | fhjfu5j | f1ff1u3 | 1,581,645,154 | 1,569,443,107 | 5 | 3 | sorry for the late reply , i dont want to break you down or anything or discourage you . but like your health is more important . architecture ( to where i live atleast i don't know about your surroundings) is a failed investment . coming from a 3rd year dropout . that was the biggest step i ever took i even wanted to leave at 2nd year because it was driving me insane but my parents kept nagging on me . by the third year i legit considered suicide . it felt weird i was spending a lot of money on a career that might not have any bright future or you could say not well paying ( but it also depends on you , your experience and your luck ) so i had to leave causes : 1 - i had a financial problem in my 3rd year so i felt sympathy for my parents by leaving and felt free and happy 2- paying a lot to earn very little ? nah 3- depressing . only if you wanna get rid of your mental health i would advise it i used to be the kid who loved architecture and trust i still do i miss the shit i used to do but like all the stress and bull shit history courses i fucking hated thay shit and you had dumb colleagues aswell with A while i used to get C which didnt make much sense . i had a major downfall when i left like no kidding i sat in bed for 2 days straught no esting nothing just wanted to disappear but then came happiness and freedom .. anyways i hope you get what you want and you ll reach somewhere . | Architecture is tough. I feel there is a cult of, "Oh, you couldn't make it" that keeps people tied to it. I was in a similar position after undergraduate, I had been working at a Fortune 500 company and climbing the ladder. I went with architecture because I thought that I would be working on fun exciting stuff. I've had the opportunity to work at a range of firms and no matter the clout of the firm, I seem to always end up working longgg hours for less than I made prior while mostly working for @\*\*. I've worked in large firms with great company culture but they've been less inspiring so why not just work a corporate desk job? I would do whatever makes you happy, you're young and so it's not as big of a deal to switch gears and if you do, you can always keep it as a hobby, build your own home in the future! | 1 | 12,202,047 | 1.666667 | ||
d96qiu | architecture_train | 0.92 | Considering quitting architecture school... I need advice [Ask] I'm in my second year of Architecture school and I'm seriously considering changing my major to computer science. My reasons: 1. While I have some great teachers at my university, there are also some quite depressing ones - I mean they aren't working architects and they seem like they became theachers only because they had no other option and just needed the money to survive. And I don't want to become like that. 2. Job prospects don't seem optimistic, even one of the professors told us that an architect 'survives' and there isn't always a happy ending for everyone after graduation. Also the salaries are supposedly low, but I am trying to not base my decision on money. 3. I feel like only 0.001％ of architects get to do the realy cool and interesting stuff. 4. I don't feel passion for the things I do. When we get assigned a project I am not excited, rather I think to myself - 'yet another thing I'll have to make myself do' 5. It feels too demanding - long hours at university, long hours at home. I would like to get a job but I feel like I can't do that. Also in my country there is no BArch, only MArch which means that I have to put in 5 and a half years, whereas computer science has a bachelors. I feel like CS will give me more freedom. Why I decied to study architecture in the first place: 1. I do like design very much, but I also like math, history, philosophy, ect. I thought that Architecture would combine all my intrests. 2. My other option was computer science, which is very trendy in my country, but I figured that I shouldn't choose someting because everyone else is doing it or because it supposedly pays well. I live in Europe so student debt is not an issue, I only worry about having wasted 2 years and needing to start all over again. I am extremely confused. Has anyone been in a similar situation? English is not my native language, please excuse my mistakes. All kinds of advice will be highly appreciated! | fhjfu5j | f1gl1lx | 1,581,645,154 | 1,569,469,729 | 5 | 2 | sorry for the late reply , i dont want to break you down or anything or discourage you . but like your health is more important . architecture ( to where i live atleast i don't know about your surroundings) is a failed investment . coming from a 3rd year dropout . that was the biggest step i ever took i even wanted to leave at 2nd year because it was driving me insane but my parents kept nagging on me . by the third year i legit considered suicide . it felt weird i was spending a lot of money on a career that might not have any bright future or you could say not well paying ( but it also depends on you , your experience and your luck ) so i had to leave causes : 1 - i had a financial problem in my 3rd year so i felt sympathy for my parents by leaving and felt free and happy 2- paying a lot to earn very little ? nah 3- depressing . only if you wanna get rid of your mental health i would advise it i used to be the kid who loved architecture and trust i still do i miss the shit i used to do but like all the stress and bull shit history courses i fucking hated thay shit and you had dumb colleagues aswell with A while i used to get C which didnt make much sense . i had a major downfall when i left like no kidding i sat in bed for 2 days straught no esting nothing just wanted to disappear but then came happiness and freedom .. anyways i hope you get what you want and you ll reach somewhere . | We have a lot in common in terms of varied interests and having the second option of CS, but it would depend on your outlook. And cliche but comparing yourself to others would never lead to satisfaction. Among my group of high school friends, I was the only one who took on an art-heavy degree, which is architecture, while the rest took on CS and other un-artsy degrees. In hindsight, I'm glad I didn't give in to the persuasion to take on the same path as they did even if they are receiving 150% my salary (and spending 5 years separated from them since they all took the same uni for CS). I like what I do, they like what they do, we're all happy. On the other hand, not having the dedication or *passion* as they call it, puts you on a tighter spot. I'd suggest you find people who are experienced in computer science, maybe professors from your university too, who could give you a realistic picture if you decide to transfer. You can see (from your current professors) what the future of architecture in your area could be, you should also check how the future of CS would be. Last suggestion, you should read Creativity Inc. by Ed Catmull. He is a computer programmer who has a high interest in art which led him to creating Pixar. I enjoyed knowing how different fields could still complement our biggest dreams. Whichever road you choose, I hope you choose it because you'd enjoy doing it. | 1 | 12,175,425 | 2.5 | ||
d96qiu | architecture_train | 0.92 | Considering quitting architecture school... I need advice [Ask] I'm in my second year of Architecture school and I'm seriously considering changing my major to computer science. My reasons: 1. While I have some great teachers at my university, there are also some quite depressing ones - I mean they aren't working architects and they seem like they became theachers only because they had no other option and just needed the money to survive. And I don't want to become like that. 2. Job prospects don't seem optimistic, even one of the professors told us that an architect 'survives' and there isn't always a happy ending for everyone after graduation. Also the salaries are supposedly low, but I am trying to not base my decision on money. 3. I feel like only 0.001％ of architects get to do the realy cool and interesting stuff. 4. I don't feel passion for the things I do. When we get assigned a project I am not excited, rather I think to myself - 'yet another thing I'll have to make myself do' 5. It feels too demanding - long hours at university, long hours at home. I would like to get a job but I feel like I can't do that. Also in my country there is no BArch, only MArch which means that I have to put in 5 and a half years, whereas computer science has a bachelors. I feel like CS will give me more freedom. Why I decied to study architecture in the first place: 1. I do like design very much, but I also like math, history, philosophy, ect. I thought that Architecture would combine all my intrests. 2. My other option was computer science, which is very trendy in my country, but I figured that I shouldn't choose someting because everyone else is doing it or because it supposedly pays well. I live in Europe so student debt is not an issue, I only worry about having wasted 2 years and needing to start all over again. I am extremely confused. Has anyone been in a similar situation? English is not my native language, please excuse my mistakes. All kinds of advice will be highly appreciated! | fhjfu5j | f1gq8hy | 1,581,645,154 | 1,569,473,907 | 5 | 1 | sorry for the late reply , i dont want to break you down or anything or discourage you . but like your health is more important . architecture ( to where i live atleast i don't know about your surroundings) is a failed investment . coming from a 3rd year dropout . that was the biggest step i ever took i even wanted to leave at 2nd year because it was driving me insane but my parents kept nagging on me . by the third year i legit considered suicide . it felt weird i was spending a lot of money on a career that might not have any bright future or you could say not well paying ( but it also depends on you , your experience and your luck ) so i had to leave causes : 1 - i had a financial problem in my 3rd year so i felt sympathy for my parents by leaving and felt free and happy 2- paying a lot to earn very little ? nah 3- depressing . only if you wanna get rid of your mental health i would advise it i used to be the kid who loved architecture and trust i still do i miss the shit i used to do but like all the stress and bull shit history courses i fucking hated thay shit and you had dumb colleagues aswell with A while i used to get C which didnt make much sense . i had a major downfall when i left like no kidding i sat in bed for 2 days straught no esting nothing just wanted to disappear but then came happiness and freedom .. anyways i hope you get what you want and you ll reach somewhere . | It sounds like you've already realized some things that takes others many years. I don't think you'll find architecture rewarding; try computer science. | 1 | 12,171,247 | 5 | ||
d96qiu | architecture_train | 0.92 | Considering quitting architecture school... I need advice [Ask] I'm in my second year of Architecture school and I'm seriously considering changing my major to computer science. My reasons: 1. While I have some great teachers at my university, there are also some quite depressing ones - I mean they aren't working architects and they seem like they became theachers only because they had no other option and just needed the money to survive. And I don't want to become like that. 2. Job prospects don't seem optimistic, even one of the professors told us that an architect 'survives' and there isn't always a happy ending for everyone after graduation. Also the salaries are supposedly low, but I am trying to not base my decision on money. 3. I feel like only 0.001％ of architects get to do the realy cool and interesting stuff. 4. I don't feel passion for the things I do. When we get assigned a project I am not excited, rather I think to myself - 'yet another thing I'll have to make myself do' 5. It feels too demanding - long hours at university, long hours at home. I would like to get a job but I feel like I can't do that. Also in my country there is no BArch, only MArch which means that I have to put in 5 and a half years, whereas computer science has a bachelors. I feel like CS will give me more freedom. Why I decied to study architecture in the first place: 1. I do like design very much, but I also like math, history, philosophy, ect. I thought that Architecture would combine all my intrests. 2. My other option was computer science, which is very trendy in my country, but I figured that I shouldn't choose someting because everyone else is doing it or because it supposedly pays well. I live in Europe so student debt is not an issue, I only worry about having wasted 2 years and needing to start all over again. I am extremely confused. Has anyone been in a similar situation? English is not my native language, please excuse my mistakes. All kinds of advice will be highly appreciated! | f1f3355 | f1f7z3k | 1,569,436,055 | 1,569,438,678 | 3 | 5 | All your points apply to every field, not just architecture. Salaries low? Meh, maybe compared to much more difficult engineering fields, but considering architecture school is easy, it's actually good. Bachelor in europe is almost useless, you NEED a Master degree to get any decent job or salary anyway. Why? Because almost everyone will do a master and companies just rather wait 2 more years and get a better employee than save a couple €. | If you feel this way in school it will only grow when you get out into the profession. I can’t say what coding will be like as I never did that for a living, but odds are you will make more money. These days you end up spending a bunch of time in front of a computer for architecture too so... All things being equal it’s about your happiness. Realize that it’s not only about the one you’ll enjoy more but also the one that you’ll enjoy your life outside of work. Which one will provide more free time/opportunity/interesting people/ new life experiences? | 0 | 2,623 | 1.666667 | ||
d96qiu | architecture_train | 0.92 | Considering quitting architecture school... I need advice [Ask] I'm in my second year of Architecture school and I'm seriously considering changing my major to computer science. My reasons: 1. While I have some great teachers at my university, there are also some quite depressing ones - I mean they aren't working architects and they seem like they became theachers only because they had no other option and just needed the money to survive. And I don't want to become like that. 2. Job prospects don't seem optimistic, even one of the professors told us that an architect 'survives' and there isn't always a happy ending for everyone after graduation. Also the salaries are supposedly low, but I am trying to not base my decision on money. 3. I feel like only 0.001％ of architects get to do the realy cool and interesting stuff. 4. I don't feel passion for the things I do. When we get assigned a project I am not excited, rather I think to myself - 'yet another thing I'll have to make myself do' 5. It feels too demanding - long hours at university, long hours at home. I would like to get a job but I feel like I can't do that. Also in my country there is no BArch, only MArch which means that I have to put in 5 and a half years, whereas computer science has a bachelors. I feel like CS will give me more freedom. Why I decied to study architecture in the first place: 1. I do like design very much, but I also like math, history, philosophy, ect. I thought that Architecture would combine all my intrests. 2. My other option was computer science, which is very trendy in my country, but I figured that I shouldn't choose someting because everyone else is doing it or because it supposedly pays well. I live in Europe so student debt is not an issue, I only worry about having wasted 2 years and needing to start all over again. I am extremely confused. Has anyone been in a similar situation? English is not my native language, please excuse my mistakes. All kinds of advice will be highly appreciated! | f1f3355 | f1hie2o | 1,569,436,055 | 1,569,494,128 | 3 | 4 | All your points apply to every field, not just architecture. Salaries low? Meh, maybe compared to much more difficult engineering fields, but considering architecture school is easy, it's actually good. Bachelor in europe is almost useless, you NEED a Master degree to get any decent job or salary anyway. Why? Because almost everyone will do a master and companies just rather wait 2 more years and get a better employee than save a couple €. | 1.Similar happens with every major-not one major will guarantee best tutors. However if they are not working, or have experience that's quite a problem 2.Correct, everyone jokes that the first thing they do when they work first time is drafting toilets. But it depends on area and economy. 3.True, due to access of money and technology. However there are also a lot of small firms which got big ideas as rising architects. However if you're looking at parametric stuffs, for example, of course not many architect would be able to do it because most are big scale and need specialized technology. 4.Maybe you haven't discovered what you truly like? architecture is rather flexible, so many cross reference between idologies or styles. 5.I won't refute this because it is indeed require long hours for your reasoning, architecture has philosophy too. of course it's not a bucket for everything, but this is also depends on which university you study. for second one, if you like it, you should go for it. Since you're required to go to M.Arch, I guess you still have 3 years left. If bachelor of CS takes about 3 years you won't have anything to lose. You can even get a credit transfer if it's applicable. Do a lot of research on how things are really going on on CS major, what do they study or wether you'll like it. Go and find someone who graduated and look at their portfolio. Hope this helps, and good luck. | 0 | 58,073 | 1.333333 | ||
d96qiu | architecture_train | 0.92 | Considering quitting architecture school... I need advice [Ask] I'm in my second year of Architecture school and I'm seriously considering changing my major to computer science. My reasons: 1. While I have some great teachers at my university, there are also some quite depressing ones - I mean they aren't working architects and they seem like they became theachers only because they had no other option and just needed the money to survive. And I don't want to become like that. 2. Job prospects don't seem optimistic, even one of the professors told us that an architect 'survives' and there isn't always a happy ending for everyone after graduation. Also the salaries are supposedly low, but I am trying to not base my decision on money. 3. I feel like only 0.001％ of architects get to do the realy cool and interesting stuff. 4. I don't feel passion for the things I do. When we get assigned a project I am not excited, rather I think to myself - 'yet another thing I'll have to make myself do' 5. It feels too demanding - long hours at university, long hours at home. I would like to get a job but I feel like I can't do that. Also in my country there is no BArch, only MArch which means that I have to put in 5 and a half years, whereas computer science has a bachelors. I feel like CS will give me more freedom. Why I decied to study architecture in the first place: 1. I do like design very much, but I also like math, history, philosophy, ect. I thought that Architecture would combine all my intrests. 2. My other option was computer science, which is very trendy in my country, but I figured that I shouldn't choose someting because everyone else is doing it or because it supposedly pays well. I live in Europe so student debt is not an issue, I only worry about having wasted 2 years and needing to start all over again. I am extremely confused. Has anyone been in a similar situation? English is not my native language, please excuse my mistakes. All kinds of advice will be highly appreciated! | f1fed4r | f1hie2o | 1,569,442,683 | 1,569,494,128 | 3 | 4 | If you decide to continue with architecture make sure that you learn all of the appropriate drafting software (revit, autocad etc). My university didn't require these for undergrad and I have friends that struggled to find a job without knowing these programs. As for jobs, a great way to get started in the industry is to become a drafter out of school. This opens up the field a bit since you don't just have to apply to architecture firms, as construction companies and contractors also need drafters. I've worked at a tile company, a glazing company and finally now at an architecture firm as a drafter. I love the work and generally I've found most projects, even those that seem mundane, to have something interesting about them. Glazing was especially interesting as I got to draw up the windows that get put into skyscrapers and other big projects. There is a whole construction industry that is looking for new talent, so make sure you consider more than just traditional firms at first. It's a great resume builder for when/if you do decide to go for more traditional architecture. | 1.Similar happens with every major-not one major will guarantee best tutors. However if they are not working, or have experience that's quite a problem 2.Correct, everyone jokes that the first thing they do when they work first time is drafting toilets. But it depends on area and economy. 3.True, due to access of money and technology. However there are also a lot of small firms which got big ideas as rising architects. However if you're looking at parametric stuffs, for example, of course not many architect would be able to do it because most are big scale and need specialized technology. 4.Maybe you haven't discovered what you truly like? architecture is rather flexible, so many cross reference between idologies or styles. 5.I won't refute this because it is indeed require long hours for your reasoning, architecture has philosophy too. of course it's not a bucket for everything, but this is also depends on which university you study. for second one, if you like it, you should go for it. Since you're required to go to M.Arch, I guess you still have 3 years left. If bachelor of CS takes about 3 years you won't have anything to lose. You can even get a credit transfer if it's applicable. Do a lot of research on how things are really going on on CS major, what do they study or wether you'll like it. Go and find someone who graduated and look at their portfolio. Hope this helps, and good luck. | 0 | 51,445 | 1.333333 | ||
d96qiu | architecture_train | 0.92 | Considering quitting architecture school... I need advice [Ask] I'm in my second year of Architecture school and I'm seriously considering changing my major to computer science. My reasons: 1. While I have some great teachers at my university, there are also some quite depressing ones - I mean they aren't working architects and they seem like they became theachers only because they had no other option and just needed the money to survive. And I don't want to become like that. 2. Job prospects don't seem optimistic, even one of the professors told us that an architect 'survives' and there isn't always a happy ending for everyone after graduation. Also the salaries are supposedly low, but I am trying to not base my decision on money. 3. I feel like only 0.001％ of architects get to do the realy cool and interesting stuff. 4. I don't feel passion for the things I do. When we get assigned a project I am not excited, rather I think to myself - 'yet another thing I'll have to make myself do' 5. It feels too demanding - long hours at university, long hours at home. I would like to get a job but I feel like I can't do that. Also in my country there is no BArch, only MArch which means that I have to put in 5 and a half years, whereas computer science has a bachelors. I feel like CS will give me more freedom. Why I decied to study architecture in the first place: 1. I do like design very much, but I also like math, history, philosophy, ect. I thought that Architecture would combine all my intrests. 2. My other option was computer science, which is very trendy in my country, but I figured that I shouldn't choose someting because everyone else is doing it or because it supposedly pays well. I live in Europe so student debt is not an issue, I only worry about having wasted 2 years and needing to start all over again. I am extremely confused. Has anyone been in a similar situation? English is not my native language, please excuse my mistakes. All kinds of advice will be highly appreciated! | f1hie2o | f1ff1u3 | 1,569,494,128 | 1,569,443,107 | 4 | 3 | 1.Similar happens with every major-not one major will guarantee best tutors. However if they are not working, or have experience that's quite a problem 2.Correct, everyone jokes that the first thing they do when they work first time is drafting toilets. But it depends on area and economy. 3.True, due to access of money and technology. However there are also a lot of small firms which got big ideas as rising architects. However if you're looking at parametric stuffs, for example, of course not many architect would be able to do it because most are big scale and need specialized technology. 4.Maybe you haven't discovered what you truly like? architecture is rather flexible, so many cross reference between idologies or styles. 5.I won't refute this because it is indeed require long hours for your reasoning, architecture has philosophy too. of course it's not a bucket for everything, but this is also depends on which university you study. for second one, if you like it, you should go for it. Since you're required to go to M.Arch, I guess you still have 3 years left. If bachelor of CS takes about 3 years you won't have anything to lose. You can even get a credit transfer if it's applicable. Do a lot of research on how things are really going on on CS major, what do they study or wether you'll like it. Go and find someone who graduated and look at their portfolio. Hope this helps, and good luck. | Architecture is tough. I feel there is a cult of, "Oh, you couldn't make it" that keeps people tied to it. I was in a similar position after undergraduate, I had been working at a Fortune 500 company and climbing the ladder. I went with architecture because I thought that I would be working on fun exciting stuff. I've had the opportunity to work at a range of firms and no matter the clout of the firm, I seem to always end up working longgg hours for less than I made prior while mostly working for @\*\*. I've worked in large firms with great company culture but they've been less inspiring so why not just work a corporate desk job? I would do whatever makes you happy, you're young and so it's not as big of a deal to switch gears and if you do, you can always keep it as a hobby, build your own home in the future! | 1 | 51,021 | 1.333333 | ||
d96qiu | architecture_train | 0.92 | Considering quitting architecture school... I need advice [Ask] I'm in my second year of Architecture school and I'm seriously considering changing my major to computer science. My reasons: 1. While I have some great teachers at my university, there are also some quite depressing ones - I mean they aren't working architects and they seem like they became theachers only because they had no other option and just needed the money to survive. And I don't want to become like that. 2. Job prospects don't seem optimistic, even one of the professors told us that an architect 'survives' and there isn't always a happy ending for everyone after graduation. Also the salaries are supposedly low, but I am trying to not base my decision on money. 3. I feel like only 0.001％ of architects get to do the realy cool and interesting stuff. 4. I don't feel passion for the things I do. When we get assigned a project I am not excited, rather I think to myself - 'yet another thing I'll have to make myself do' 5. It feels too demanding - long hours at university, long hours at home. I would like to get a job but I feel like I can't do that. Also in my country there is no BArch, only MArch which means that I have to put in 5 and a half years, whereas computer science has a bachelors. I feel like CS will give me more freedom. Why I decied to study architecture in the first place: 1. I do like design very much, but I also like math, history, philosophy, ect. I thought that Architecture would combine all my intrests. 2. My other option was computer science, which is very trendy in my country, but I figured that I shouldn't choose someting because everyone else is doing it or because it supposedly pays well. I live in Europe so student debt is not an issue, I only worry about having wasted 2 years and needing to start all over again. I am extremely confused. Has anyone been in a similar situation? English is not my native language, please excuse my mistakes. All kinds of advice will be highly appreciated! | f1gl1lx | f1hie2o | 1,569,469,729 | 1,569,494,128 | 2 | 4 | We have a lot in common in terms of varied interests and having the second option of CS, but it would depend on your outlook. And cliche but comparing yourself to others would never lead to satisfaction. Among my group of high school friends, I was the only one who took on an art-heavy degree, which is architecture, while the rest took on CS and other un-artsy degrees. In hindsight, I'm glad I didn't give in to the persuasion to take on the same path as they did even if they are receiving 150% my salary (and spending 5 years separated from them since they all took the same uni for CS). I like what I do, they like what they do, we're all happy. On the other hand, not having the dedication or *passion* as they call it, puts you on a tighter spot. I'd suggest you find people who are experienced in computer science, maybe professors from your university too, who could give you a realistic picture if you decide to transfer. You can see (from your current professors) what the future of architecture in your area could be, you should also check how the future of CS would be. Last suggestion, you should read Creativity Inc. by Ed Catmull. He is a computer programmer who has a high interest in art which led him to creating Pixar. I enjoyed knowing how different fields could still complement our biggest dreams. Whichever road you choose, I hope you choose it because you'd enjoy doing it. | 1.Similar happens with every major-not one major will guarantee best tutors. However if they are not working, or have experience that's quite a problem 2.Correct, everyone jokes that the first thing they do when they work first time is drafting toilets. But it depends on area and economy. 3.True, due to access of money and technology. However there are also a lot of small firms which got big ideas as rising architects. However if you're looking at parametric stuffs, for example, of course not many architect would be able to do it because most are big scale and need specialized technology. 4.Maybe you haven't discovered what you truly like? architecture is rather flexible, so many cross reference between idologies or styles. 5.I won't refute this because it is indeed require long hours for your reasoning, architecture has philosophy too. of course it's not a bucket for everything, but this is also depends on which university you study. for second one, if you like it, you should go for it. Since you're required to go to M.Arch, I guess you still have 3 years left. If bachelor of CS takes about 3 years you won't have anything to lose. You can even get a credit transfer if it's applicable. Do a lot of research on how things are really going on on CS major, what do they study or wether you'll like it. Go and find someone who graduated and look at their portfolio. Hope this helps, and good luck. | 0 | 24,399 | 2 | ||
d96qiu | architecture_train | 0.92 | Considering quitting architecture school... I need advice [Ask] I'm in my second year of Architecture school and I'm seriously considering changing my major to computer science. My reasons: 1. While I have some great teachers at my university, there are also some quite depressing ones - I mean they aren't working architects and they seem like they became theachers only because they had no other option and just needed the money to survive. And I don't want to become like that. 2. Job prospects don't seem optimistic, even one of the professors told us that an architect 'survives' and there isn't always a happy ending for everyone after graduation. Also the salaries are supposedly low, but I am trying to not base my decision on money. 3. I feel like only 0.001％ of architects get to do the realy cool and interesting stuff. 4. I don't feel passion for the things I do. When we get assigned a project I am not excited, rather I think to myself - 'yet another thing I'll have to make myself do' 5. It feels too demanding - long hours at university, long hours at home. I would like to get a job but I feel like I can't do that. Also in my country there is no BArch, only MArch which means that I have to put in 5 and a half years, whereas computer science has a bachelors. I feel like CS will give me more freedom. Why I decied to study architecture in the first place: 1. I do like design very much, but I also like math, history, philosophy, ect. I thought that Architecture would combine all my intrests. 2. My other option was computer science, which is very trendy in my country, but I figured that I shouldn't choose someting because everyone else is doing it or because it supposedly pays well. I live in Europe so student debt is not an issue, I only worry about having wasted 2 years and needing to start all over again. I am extremely confused. Has anyone been in a similar situation? English is not my native language, please excuse my mistakes. All kinds of advice will be highly appreciated! | f1hie2o | f1gq8hy | 1,569,494,128 | 1,569,473,907 | 4 | 1 | 1.Similar happens with every major-not one major will guarantee best tutors. However if they are not working, or have experience that's quite a problem 2.Correct, everyone jokes that the first thing they do when they work first time is drafting toilets. But it depends on area and economy. 3.True, due to access of money and technology. However there are also a lot of small firms which got big ideas as rising architects. However if you're looking at parametric stuffs, for example, of course not many architect would be able to do it because most are big scale and need specialized technology. 4.Maybe you haven't discovered what you truly like? architecture is rather flexible, so many cross reference between idologies or styles. 5.I won't refute this because it is indeed require long hours for your reasoning, architecture has philosophy too. of course it's not a bucket for everything, but this is also depends on which university you study. for second one, if you like it, you should go for it. Since you're required to go to M.Arch, I guess you still have 3 years left. If bachelor of CS takes about 3 years you won't have anything to lose. You can even get a credit transfer if it's applicable. Do a lot of research on how things are really going on on CS major, what do they study or wether you'll like it. Go and find someone who graduated and look at their portfolio. Hope this helps, and good luck. | It sounds like you've already realized some things that takes others many years. I don't think you'll find architecture rewarding; try computer science. | 1 | 20,221 | 4 | ||
9q2leo | architecture_train | 0.79 | I realized that architecture isn’t my passion and I want to quit architecture school but I’m scared [ask] I have spent two years to prepare for architecture school and one year for the English preparation. And it’s been only a month since I started studying architecture. I realized that it requires me to leave my previous life behind and continue it as a full time architect. I usually love to keep myself busy with a lot of stuff, and the most important fact is that I’m an artist and what I want to do mainly in life is art. However, I was born to a very poor family and only my mom has an income which won’t be enough to support both my younger sister and I in the future. So I’ll need a well paying job to survive by myself and still have money to do art because obviously, I’m nothing without it. That’s why, to be very honest, I chose to study architecture and not art. My country is a Middle Eastern country and as an artist, there’s so little chance that I won’t die starving. But I regret it so bad. I see all those professors and classmates saying that they love doing this and it doesn’t matter that they stay awake the whole night and can’t go out with their friends anymore because this is their passion. This isn’t my passion. I find it so hard to focus on classes and do homework and projects because I hate doing it. I am not enthusiastic to improve myself after having my projects criticized and I do my homeworks in very short time, with the minimum effort possible. I’m not planning to quit architecture school and study art. But I want to study something that will take less time and energy from my life and that will still let me spend the majority of my life to art. But, of course, I’ll lose one more year. I already wasted two, so it scares me a bit. Is it wise to quit architecture school at this point? Or is it something every student goes through when they first start studying architecture? | e86i815 | e86s37j | 1,540,135,952 | 1,540,144,657 | 3 | 6 | Work is often different than school. In our office nobody works overtime. But realize that architecture is 90% coordination and organization and 10% creative. I started the same as you and now I am happy that my job is something that has some creativity. But also realize that architecture doesn’t pay that well. If it’s about the money become a programmer. But that can also suck for similar reasons. No perfect answer. Ultimately you have to find something and then stick to it. | This is kinda sad, but i know how you feel. I had one friend, she was studying Architecture with me. She left the University in second year, now she's studying Art, doing what she loves. Now she's working as a tattoo artist. You're young enough to decide what makes you happy. Do what you love, don't be afraid of the future. | 0 | 8,705 | 2 | ||
9q2leo | architecture_train | 0.79 | I realized that architecture isn’t my passion and I want to quit architecture school but I’m scared [ask] I have spent two years to prepare for architecture school and one year for the English preparation. And it’s been only a month since I started studying architecture. I realized that it requires me to leave my previous life behind and continue it as a full time architect. I usually love to keep myself busy with a lot of stuff, and the most important fact is that I’m an artist and what I want to do mainly in life is art. However, I was born to a very poor family and only my mom has an income which won’t be enough to support both my younger sister and I in the future. So I’ll need a well paying job to survive by myself and still have money to do art because obviously, I’m nothing without it. That’s why, to be very honest, I chose to study architecture and not art. My country is a Middle Eastern country and as an artist, there’s so little chance that I won’t die starving. But I regret it so bad. I see all those professors and classmates saying that they love doing this and it doesn’t matter that they stay awake the whole night and can’t go out with their friends anymore because this is their passion. This isn’t my passion. I find it so hard to focus on classes and do homework and projects because I hate doing it. I am not enthusiastic to improve myself after having my projects criticized and I do my homeworks in very short time, with the minimum effort possible. I’m not planning to quit architecture school and study art. But I want to study something that will take less time and energy from my life and that will still let me spend the majority of my life to art. But, of course, I’ll lose one more year. I already wasted two, so it scares me a bit. Is it wise to quit architecture school at this point? Or is it something every student goes through when they first start studying architecture? | e86hkt4 | e86s37j | 1,540,135,344 | 1,540,144,657 | 1 | 6 | Then what else do you want to do to earn money? Maybe working your whole life in a part time job and doing art in the meantime is better for you? You will never have a "well paying job" if you don't dedicate yourself to it. | This is kinda sad, but i know how you feel. I had one friend, she was studying Architecture with me. She left the University in second year, now she's studying Art, doing what she loves. Now she's working as a tattoo artist. You're young enough to decide what makes you happy. Do what you love, don't be afraid of the future. | 0 | 9,313 | 6 | ||
9q2leo | architecture_train | 0.79 | I realized that architecture isn’t my passion and I want to quit architecture school but I’m scared [ask] I have spent two years to prepare for architecture school and one year for the English preparation. And it’s been only a month since I started studying architecture. I realized that it requires me to leave my previous life behind and continue it as a full time architect. I usually love to keep myself busy with a lot of stuff, and the most important fact is that I’m an artist and what I want to do mainly in life is art. However, I was born to a very poor family and only my mom has an income which won’t be enough to support both my younger sister and I in the future. So I’ll need a well paying job to survive by myself and still have money to do art because obviously, I’m nothing without it. That’s why, to be very honest, I chose to study architecture and not art. My country is a Middle Eastern country and as an artist, there’s so little chance that I won’t die starving. But I regret it so bad. I see all those professors and classmates saying that they love doing this and it doesn’t matter that they stay awake the whole night and can’t go out with their friends anymore because this is their passion. This isn’t my passion. I find it so hard to focus on classes and do homework and projects because I hate doing it. I am not enthusiastic to improve myself after having my projects criticized and I do my homeworks in very short time, with the minimum effort possible. I’m not planning to quit architecture school and study art. But I want to study something that will take less time and energy from my life and that will still let me spend the majority of my life to art. But, of course, I’ll lose one more year. I already wasted two, so it scares me a bit. Is it wise to quit architecture school at this point? Or is it something every student goes through when they first start studying architecture? | e86i815 | e86hkt4 | 1,540,135,952 | 1,540,135,344 | 3 | 1 | Work is often different than school. In our office nobody works overtime. But realize that architecture is 90% coordination and organization and 10% creative. I started the same as you and now I am happy that my job is something that has some creativity. But also realize that architecture doesn’t pay that well. If it’s about the money become a programmer. But that can also suck for similar reasons. No perfect answer. Ultimately you have to find something and then stick to it. | Then what else do you want to do to earn money? Maybe working your whole life in a part time job and doing art in the meantime is better for you? You will never have a "well paying job" if you don't dedicate yourself to it. | 1 | 608 | 3 | ||
9q2leo | architecture_train | 0.79 | I realized that architecture isn’t my passion and I want to quit architecture school but I’m scared [ask] I have spent two years to prepare for architecture school and one year for the English preparation. And it’s been only a month since I started studying architecture. I realized that it requires me to leave my previous life behind and continue it as a full time architect. I usually love to keep myself busy with a lot of stuff, and the most important fact is that I’m an artist and what I want to do mainly in life is art. However, I was born to a very poor family and only my mom has an income which won’t be enough to support both my younger sister and I in the future. So I’ll need a well paying job to survive by myself and still have money to do art because obviously, I’m nothing without it. That’s why, to be very honest, I chose to study architecture and not art. My country is a Middle Eastern country and as an artist, there’s so little chance that I won’t die starving. But I regret it so bad. I see all those professors and classmates saying that they love doing this and it doesn’t matter that they stay awake the whole night and can’t go out with their friends anymore because this is their passion. This isn’t my passion. I find it so hard to focus on classes and do homework and projects because I hate doing it. I am not enthusiastic to improve myself after having my projects criticized and I do my homeworks in very short time, with the minimum effort possible. I’m not planning to quit architecture school and study art. But I want to study something that will take less time and energy from my life and that will still let me spend the majority of my life to art. But, of course, I’ll lose one more year. I already wasted two, so it scares me a bit. Is it wise to quit architecture school at this point? Or is it something every student goes through when they first start studying architecture? | e87x2t9 | e86hkt4 | 1,540,183,695 | 1,540,135,344 | 3 | 1 | >I’m not planning to quit architecture school and study art. But I want to study something that will take less time and energy from my life and that will still let me spend the majority of my life to art. Sounds like a very reasonable plan. Find out what you're good at, find out what pays well, and practice art on the side. | Then what else do you want to do to earn money? Maybe working your whole life in a part time job and doing art in the meantime is better for you? You will never have a "well paying job" if you don't dedicate yourself to it. | 1 | 48,351 | 3 | ||
9q2leo | architecture_train | 0.79 | I realized that architecture isn’t my passion and I want to quit architecture school but I’m scared [ask] I have spent two years to prepare for architecture school and one year for the English preparation. And it’s been only a month since I started studying architecture. I realized that it requires me to leave my previous life behind and continue it as a full time architect. I usually love to keep myself busy with a lot of stuff, and the most important fact is that I’m an artist and what I want to do mainly in life is art. However, I was born to a very poor family and only my mom has an income which won’t be enough to support both my younger sister and I in the future. So I’ll need a well paying job to survive by myself and still have money to do art because obviously, I’m nothing without it. That’s why, to be very honest, I chose to study architecture and not art. My country is a Middle Eastern country and as an artist, there’s so little chance that I won’t die starving. But I regret it so bad. I see all those professors and classmates saying that they love doing this and it doesn’t matter that they stay awake the whole night and can’t go out with their friends anymore because this is their passion. This isn’t my passion. I find it so hard to focus on classes and do homework and projects because I hate doing it. I am not enthusiastic to improve myself after having my projects criticized and I do my homeworks in very short time, with the minimum effort possible. I’m not planning to quit architecture school and study art. But I want to study something that will take less time and energy from my life and that will still let me spend the majority of my life to art. But, of course, I’ll lose one more year. I already wasted two, so it scares me a bit. Is it wise to quit architecture school at this point? Or is it something every student goes through when they first start studying architecture? | e86hkt4 | e9v34sj | 1,540,135,344 | 1,542,430,947 | 1 | 2 | Then what else do you want to do to earn money? Maybe working your whole life in a part time job and doing art in the meantime is better for you? You will never have a "well paying job" if you don't dedicate yourself to it. | If I'm not correct, the right forms of commercial art pay better than architecture. | 0 | 2,295,603 | 2 | ||
acdteh | architecture_train | 0.94 | I’m thinking about ditching architecture... [ask] I have been working in small architecture firms since I graduated 4 years ago . I have gained a ton of skills and have come a long way as a designer and project lead - however I am starting to notice what seems to be an ever present financial ceiling that doesn’t seem justified. We all bust our asses day after day only to get flak from clients and contractors alike just so we can go home at the end of the week making far less than Zack who works at that fancy new startup that hasn’t even finalized a product yet. It just doesn’t seem worth it. Am I doing it wrong? Should I move to a larger company where benefits and pay increase is more common or would I get lost in the sea of people and just become a grinding cog in the machine? I’ve been thinking about transitioning to another field all together. I’ve developed enough skills that I think are transferable - I’m just not exactly sure what the best fit would be. Have any of you transitioned careers from architecture? What did you end up doing? All in all I love being a designer, but I feel like I am putting more in to my architecture career than I am getting out of it. Thank you for your thoughts. | ed78b7a | ed76d93 | 1,546,574,198 | 1,546,572,463 | 20 | 12 | My cousin whom is a brickie makes close to 1500$ weekly, after taxes, union, NYC. That's close to 100k if he worked year round, but I think it sometimes gets slower in the winter. Ends 4:30 on the dot, rare overtime, and if so rewarded greatly. Let that sink in while we go through college, countless skills learned that are necessary, many overtime hours put in which are not even rewarded with a thank you because it's normal in this profession. All that trumped with the skills of brick laying and pointing. | if you’re gonna move, move soon. otherwise, do like me: work in large corporations with what you stated they provide, and get a side gig to keep the juices flowing. start your own thing evenings and weekends and blend in to the corporate environment. there is light at the end of that tunnel. | 1 | 1,735 | 1.666667 | ||
acdteh | architecture_train | 0.94 | I’m thinking about ditching architecture... [ask] I have been working in small architecture firms since I graduated 4 years ago . I have gained a ton of skills and have come a long way as a designer and project lead - however I am starting to notice what seems to be an ever present financial ceiling that doesn’t seem justified. We all bust our asses day after day only to get flak from clients and contractors alike just so we can go home at the end of the week making far less than Zack who works at that fancy new startup that hasn’t even finalized a product yet. It just doesn’t seem worth it. Am I doing it wrong? Should I move to a larger company where benefits and pay increase is more common or would I get lost in the sea of people and just become a grinding cog in the machine? I’ve been thinking about transitioning to another field all together. I’ve developed enough skills that I think are transferable - I’m just not exactly sure what the best fit would be. Have any of you transitioned careers from architecture? What did you end up doing? All in all I love being a designer, but I feel like I am putting more in to my architecture career than I am getting out of it. Thank you for your thoughts. | ed76bky | ed78b7a | 1,546,572,423 | 1,546,574,198 | 9 | 20 | Why did you get into architecture? What do you want to do with it? I have been teaching myself about architecture so I can build a house(s) for myself at some point and ironically it seems like getting a degree in architecture would be the worst way to go about this. | My cousin whom is a brickie makes close to 1500$ weekly, after taxes, union, NYC. That's close to 100k if he worked year round, but I think it sometimes gets slower in the winter. Ends 4:30 on the dot, rare overtime, and if so rewarded greatly. Let that sink in while we go through college, countless skills learned that are necessary, many overtime hours put in which are not even rewarded with a thank you because it's normal in this profession. All that trumped with the skills of brick laying and pointing. | 0 | 1,775 | 2.222222 | ||
acdteh | architecture_train | 0.94 | I’m thinking about ditching architecture... [ask] I have been working in small architecture firms since I graduated 4 years ago . I have gained a ton of skills and have come a long way as a designer and project lead - however I am starting to notice what seems to be an ever present financial ceiling that doesn’t seem justified. We all bust our asses day after day only to get flak from clients and contractors alike just so we can go home at the end of the week making far less than Zack who works at that fancy new startup that hasn’t even finalized a product yet. It just doesn’t seem worth it. Am I doing it wrong? Should I move to a larger company where benefits and pay increase is more common or would I get lost in the sea of people and just become a grinding cog in the machine? I’ve been thinking about transitioning to another field all together. I’ve developed enough skills that I think are transferable - I’m just not exactly sure what the best fit would be. Have any of you transitioned careers from architecture? What did you end up doing? All in all I love being a designer, but I feel like I am putting more in to my architecture career than I am getting out of it. Thank you for your thoughts. | ed78yb6 | ed76d93 | 1,546,574,786 | 1,546,572,463 | 18 | 12 | I work for a very large E/A firm (mainly an engineering firm but also with architects). I love my job. We compete for big enough and high-profile-enough projects that I don’t feel like I’m just a glorified engineer. I’ve been here for 15 years, am well respected by my peers and higher-ups alike, and I’m making at the top end of the industry for a technical architect - though there is still opportunity to grow my salary at the management and executive levels. While I was never a big-d Designer, I have enough opportunity to use my skills that I don’t ever feel like I’m a cog. | if you’re gonna move, move soon. otherwise, do like me: work in large corporations with what you stated they provide, and get a side gig to keep the juices flowing. start your own thing evenings and weekends and blend in to the corporate environment. there is light at the end of that tunnel. | 1 | 2,323 | 1.5 | ||
acdteh | architecture_train | 0.94 | I’m thinking about ditching architecture... [ask] I have been working in small architecture firms since I graduated 4 years ago . I have gained a ton of skills and have come a long way as a designer and project lead - however I am starting to notice what seems to be an ever present financial ceiling that doesn’t seem justified. We all bust our asses day after day only to get flak from clients and contractors alike just so we can go home at the end of the week making far less than Zack who works at that fancy new startup that hasn’t even finalized a product yet. It just doesn’t seem worth it. Am I doing it wrong? Should I move to a larger company where benefits and pay increase is more common or would I get lost in the sea of people and just become a grinding cog in the machine? I’ve been thinking about transitioning to another field all together. I’ve developed enough skills that I think are transferable - I’m just not exactly sure what the best fit would be. Have any of you transitioned careers from architecture? What did you end up doing? All in all I love being a designer, but I feel like I am putting more in to my architecture career than I am getting out of it. Thank you for your thoughts. | ed78yb6 | ed76bky | 1,546,574,786 | 1,546,572,423 | 18 | 9 | I work for a very large E/A firm (mainly an engineering firm but also with architects). I love my job. We compete for big enough and high-profile-enough projects that I don’t feel like I’m just a glorified engineer. I’ve been here for 15 years, am well respected by my peers and higher-ups alike, and I’m making at the top end of the industry for a technical architect - though there is still opportunity to grow my salary at the management and executive levels. While I was never a big-d Designer, I have enough opportunity to use my skills that I don’t ever feel like I’m a cog. | Why did you get into architecture? What do you want to do with it? I have been teaching myself about architecture so I can build a house(s) for myself at some point and ironically it seems like getting a degree in architecture would be the worst way to go about this. | 1 | 2,363 | 2 | ||
acdteh | architecture_train | 0.94 | I’m thinking about ditching architecture... [ask] I have been working in small architecture firms since I graduated 4 years ago . I have gained a ton of skills and have come a long way as a designer and project lead - however I am starting to notice what seems to be an ever present financial ceiling that doesn’t seem justified. We all bust our asses day after day only to get flak from clients and contractors alike just so we can go home at the end of the week making far less than Zack who works at that fancy new startup that hasn’t even finalized a product yet. It just doesn’t seem worth it. Am I doing it wrong? Should I move to a larger company where benefits and pay increase is more common or would I get lost in the sea of people and just become a grinding cog in the machine? I’ve been thinking about transitioning to another field all together. I’ve developed enough skills that I think are transferable - I’m just not exactly sure what the best fit would be. Have any of you transitioned careers from architecture? What did you end up doing? All in all I love being a designer, but I feel like I am putting more in to my architecture career than I am getting out of it. Thank you for your thoughts. | ed76bky | ed76d93 | 1,546,572,423 | 1,546,572,463 | 9 | 12 | Why did you get into architecture? What do you want to do with it? I have been teaching myself about architecture so I can build a house(s) for myself at some point and ironically it seems like getting a degree in architecture would be the worst way to go about this. | if you’re gonna move, move soon. otherwise, do like me: work in large corporations with what you stated they provide, and get a side gig to keep the juices flowing. start your own thing evenings and weekends and blend in to the corporate environment. there is light at the end of that tunnel. | 0 | 40 | 1.333333 | ||
acdteh | architecture_train | 0.94 | I’m thinking about ditching architecture... [ask] I have been working in small architecture firms since I graduated 4 years ago . I have gained a ton of skills and have come a long way as a designer and project lead - however I am starting to notice what seems to be an ever present financial ceiling that doesn’t seem justified. We all bust our asses day after day only to get flak from clients and contractors alike just so we can go home at the end of the week making far less than Zack who works at that fancy new startup that hasn’t even finalized a product yet. It just doesn’t seem worth it. Am I doing it wrong? Should I move to a larger company where benefits and pay increase is more common or would I get lost in the sea of people and just become a grinding cog in the machine? I’ve been thinking about transitioning to another field all together. I’ve developed enough skills that I think are transferable - I’m just not exactly sure what the best fit would be. Have any of you transitioned careers from architecture? What did you end up doing? All in all I love being a designer, but I feel like I am putting more in to my architecture career than I am getting out of it. Thank you for your thoughts. | ed7zabk | ed79sxp | 1,546,606,689 | 1,546,575,577 | 5 | 4 | I graduated in 2008, a bleak time to be an architect out of college, after a year I started studying for a masters in project management by night for 2 years. So 3 years after graduating I made the switch into a tech company building mobile apps. 6 years later I moved into a big data startup. Being an architect / having a grounding in creative problem solving is a great asset in the tech industry as you are largely surrounded by engineers so your ideas often stand out as different from the pack. You been trained to put together amazing presentations and crits have taught you resilience. It was the best decision I've ever made, I get paid a multiple of my architecture friends and theres no ceiling if you're ambitious enough. The hours are more regular too and the best bonus is that you are now the only architect among a group of people who all need architectural advice for their homes. Over the last 7 years, I've designed 5 work offices and 10+ housing extensions as a part time hobby which has been a blast. There are also plenty of pure design jobs in tech too, UX/UI work and beyond if you wanted to stay in the design world and get paid more. I wish you well, the road ahead has many turns but I would highly recommend making a leap, you never know where you will end up! | Unfortunately if you are looking for more money in architecture then you need to switch jobs every 2-3 year's at the start of your career. Look at the AIA salary guides and make sure you are making around what you should be making. I finally switched to a larger firm (200ish people) and it's been a nice change over working in firms in the 30-50 people range. There are people who take care of a lot of stuff that smaller firms just can't provide. This has allowed me to have much better resources to do my job and had given me a support network that smaller firms couldn't provide. Try out a larger firm and see if it suits you. Pay will most likely be better too. | 1 | 31,112 | 1.25 | ||
acdteh | architecture_train | 0.94 | I’m thinking about ditching architecture... [ask] I have been working in small architecture firms since I graduated 4 years ago . I have gained a ton of skills and have come a long way as a designer and project lead - however I am starting to notice what seems to be an ever present financial ceiling that doesn’t seem justified. We all bust our asses day after day only to get flak from clients and contractors alike just so we can go home at the end of the week making far less than Zack who works at that fancy new startup that hasn’t even finalized a product yet. It just doesn’t seem worth it. Am I doing it wrong? Should I move to a larger company where benefits and pay increase is more common or would I get lost in the sea of people and just become a grinding cog in the machine? I’ve been thinking about transitioning to another field all together. I’ve developed enough skills that I think are transferable - I’m just not exactly sure what the best fit would be. Have any of you transitioned careers from architecture? What did you end up doing? All in all I love being a designer, but I feel like I am putting more in to my architecture career than I am getting out of it. Thank you for your thoughts. | ed7hoa7 | ed7zabk | 1,546,582,855 | 1,546,606,689 | 4 | 5 | I’m unfortunately in the exact same boat. Loved going through school but the actual work in the jobs I’ve had is so bleak, and for the pay it’s not worth it at all. It’s been 3 years for me. My first job was actually a mechanical drafting job which was challenge to switch to but I actually had to engage with others in coordination meetings, not to mention I got paid ALOT more. I ended up finding jobs over the past few years at smaller firms for less pay and I’m over it. I can get paid a lot more in the MEP world to do almost the same thing. Being creative is what was making me happy but I’m not going to sit through a 10 year career of bs work to pull out just over 100k then. I have friends who went into trades, and friends who went to business school who are essentially making twice what I was at the last firm | I graduated in 2008, a bleak time to be an architect out of college, after a year I started studying for a masters in project management by night for 2 years. So 3 years after graduating I made the switch into a tech company building mobile apps. 6 years later I moved into a big data startup. Being an architect / having a grounding in creative problem solving is a great asset in the tech industry as you are largely surrounded by engineers so your ideas often stand out as different from the pack. You been trained to put together amazing presentations and crits have taught you resilience. It was the best decision I've ever made, I get paid a multiple of my architecture friends and theres no ceiling if you're ambitious enough. The hours are more regular too and the best bonus is that you are now the only architect among a group of people who all need architectural advice for their homes. Over the last 7 years, I've designed 5 work offices and 10+ housing extensions as a part time hobby which has been a blast. There are also plenty of pure design jobs in tech too, UX/UI work and beyond if you wanted to stay in the design world and get paid more. I wish you well, the road ahead has many turns but I would highly recommend making a leap, you never know where you will end up! | 0 | 23,834 | 1.25 | ||
acdteh | architecture_train | 0.94 | I’m thinking about ditching architecture... [ask] I have been working in small architecture firms since I graduated 4 years ago . I have gained a ton of skills and have come a long way as a designer and project lead - however I am starting to notice what seems to be an ever present financial ceiling that doesn’t seem justified. We all bust our asses day after day only to get flak from clients and contractors alike just so we can go home at the end of the week making far less than Zack who works at that fancy new startup that hasn’t even finalized a product yet. It just doesn’t seem worth it. Am I doing it wrong? Should I move to a larger company where benefits and pay increase is more common or would I get lost in the sea of people and just become a grinding cog in the machine? I’ve been thinking about transitioning to another field all together. I’ve developed enough skills that I think are transferable - I’m just not exactly sure what the best fit would be. Have any of you transitioned careers from architecture? What did you end up doing? All in all I love being a designer, but I feel like I am putting more in to my architecture career than I am getting out of it. Thank you for your thoughts. | ed7zabk | ed7n8gs | 1,546,606,689 | 1,546,588,830 | 5 | 4 | I graduated in 2008, a bleak time to be an architect out of college, after a year I started studying for a masters in project management by night for 2 years. So 3 years after graduating I made the switch into a tech company building mobile apps. 6 years later I moved into a big data startup. Being an architect / having a grounding in creative problem solving is a great asset in the tech industry as you are largely surrounded by engineers so your ideas often stand out as different from the pack. You been trained to put together amazing presentations and crits have taught you resilience. It was the best decision I've ever made, I get paid a multiple of my architecture friends and theres no ceiling if you're ambitious enough. The hours are more regular too and the best bonus is that you are now the only architect among a group of people who all need architectural advice for their homes. Over the last 7 years, I've designed 5 work offices and 10+ housing extensions as a part time hobby which has been a blast. There are also plenty of pure design jobs in tech too, UX/UI work and beyond if you wanted to stay in the design world and get paid more. I wish you well, the road ahead has many turns but I would highly recommend making a leap, you never know where you will end up! | Another I-work-at-a-very-large-firm opinion here. Workplace amenities are great: We have two kitchens that are stocked with snacks, fruits, coffee, all the teas, fridge full of juice/coke, wine, cheese. When you have a staff of 100+ there's always interesting food that people from different cultural backgrounds bring in. We also get a lot of free breakfasts and lunches (these are usually tied to vendors coming in to showcase some arch tech or products, or learning sessions that the firm provides). IT is another big advantage over smaller firms. All the software is available. Dedicated rendering station. VR room. Dual monitor - dual adjustable arms. Super awesome meeting rooms. Big ass TVs (plural). Bigger ass projector screens. Business internet with great speeds. The computers just work. The servers just work. Revit just works. Revit plugins just work. When it doesn't we have two IT guys that can troubleshoot issues very fast. A good large firm would properly break down their large staff #s into studios. And these studios operate as smaller firms. Of course, things don't work out ideally but you can still get a lot of exposure to many things and not be a 'cog in the machine'. So try applying to ZGF or Mackenzie or something (in another comment you said you're in Portland). If that doesn't work out then leave. I've felt your sentiments too...my friends in business/software development are making 80k to six figures only a few years out of school. Then they take 4 month sabbaticals to travel the world. It's unfair. | 1 | 17,859 | 1.25 | ||
acdteh | architecture_train | 0.94 | I’m thinking about ditching architecture... [ask] I have been working in small architecture firms since I graduated 4 years ago . I have gained a ton of skills and have come a long way as a designer and project lead - however I am starting to notice what seems to be an ever present financial ceiling that doesn’t seem justified. We all bust our asses day after day only to get flak from clients and contractors alike just so we can go home at the end of the week making far less than Zack who works at that fancy new startup that hasn’t even finalized a product yet. It just doesn’t seem worth it. Am I doing it wrong? Should I move to a larger company where benefits and pay increase is more common or would I get lost in the sea of people and just become a grinding cog in the machine? I’ve been thinking about transitioning to another field all together. I’ve developed enough skills that I think are transferable - I’m just not exactly sure what the best fit would be. Have any of you transitioned careers from architecture? What did you end up doing? All in all I love being a designer, but I feel like I am putting more in to my architecture career than I am getting out of it. Thank you for your thoughts. | ed7zabk | ed7pev9 | 1,546,606,689 | 1,546,591,568 | 5 | 2 | I graduated in 2008, a bleak time to be an architect out of college, after a year I started studying for a masters in project management by night for 2 years. So 3 years after graduating I made the switch into a tech company building mobile apps. 6 years later I moved into a big data startup. Being an architect / having a grounding in creative problem solving is a great asset in the tech industry as you are largely surrounded by engineers so your ideas often stand out as different from the pack. You been trained to put together amazing presentations and crits have taught you resilience. It was the best decision I've ever made, I get paid a multiple of my architecture friends and theres no ceiling if you're ambitious enough. The hours are more regular too and the best bonus is that you are now the only architect among a group of people who all need architectural advice for their homes. Over the last 7 years, I've designed 5 work offices and 10+ housing extensions as a part time hobby which has been a blast. There are also plenty of pure design jobs in tech too, UX/UI work and beyond if you wanted to stay in the design world and get paid more. I wish you well, the road ahead has many turns but I would highly recommend making a leap, you never know where you will end up! | It's a very desirable job there are loads of trained architects competing... That's the trade off in interesting jobs... Less pay | 1 | 15,121 | 2.5 | ||
acdteh | architecture_train | 0.94 | I’m thinking about ditching architecture... [ask] I have been working in small architecture firms since I graduated 4 years ago . I have gained a ton of skills and have come a long way as a designer and project lead - however I am starting to notice what seems to be an ever present financial ceiling that doesn’t seem justified. We all bust our asses day after day only to get flak from clients and contractors alike just so we can go home at the end of the week making far less than Zack who works at that fancy new startup that hasn’t even finalized a product yet. It just doesn’t seem worth it. Am I doing it wrong? Should I move to a larger company where benefits and pay increase is more common or would I get lost in the sea of people and just become a grinding cog in the machine? I’ve been thinking about transitioning to another field all together. I’ve developed enough skills that I think are transferable - I’m just not exactly sure what the best fit would be. Have any of you transitioned careers from architecture? What did you end up doing? All in all I love being a designer, but I feel like I am putting more in to my architecture career than I am getting out of it. Thank you for your thoughts. | ed7oibp | ed7zabk | 1,546,590,367 | 1,546,606,689 | 2 | 5 | >We all bust our asses day after day only to get flak from clients and contractors alike We all bust our asses day after day only to get flak from *clients and architects* alike I'm working as an architectural design manager in a design-and-build firm for more than a decade. I can tell you grass is no greener on the other side. If you're going to stay in the industry, go work for the highest level of the pecking order. | I graduated in 2008, a bleak time to be an architect out of college, after a year I started studying for a masters in project management by night for 2 years. So 3 years after graduating I made the switch into a tech company building mobile apps. 6 years later I moved into a big data startup. Being an architect / having a grounding in creative problem solving is a great asset in the tech industry as you are largely surrounded by engineers so your ideas often stand out as different from the pack. You been trained to put together amazing presentations and crits have taught you resilience. It was the best decision I've ever made, I get paid a multiple of my architecture friends and theres no ceiling if you're ambitious enough. The hours are more regular too and the best bonus is that you are now the only architect among a group of people who all need architectural advice for their homes. Over the last 7 years, I've designed 5 work offices and 10+ housing extensions as a part time hobby which has been a blast. There are also plenty of pure design jobs in tech too, UX/UI work and beyond if you wanted to stay in the design world and get paid more. I wish you well, the road ahead has many turns but I would highly recommend making a leap, you never know where you will end up! | 0 | 16,322 | 2.5 | ||
acdteh | architecture_train | 0.94 | I’m thinking about ditching architecture... [ask] I have been working in small architecture firms since I graduated 4 years ago . I have gained a ton of skills and have come a long way as a designer and project lead - however I am starting to notice what seems to be an ever present financial ceiling that doesn’t seem justified. We all bust our asses day after day only to get flak from clients and contractors alike just so we can go home at the end of the week making far less than Zack who works at that fancy new startup that hasn’t even finalized a product yet. It just doesn’t seem worth it. Am I doing it wrong? Should I move to a larger company where benefits and pay increase is more common or would I get lost in the sea of people and just become a grinding cog in the machine? I’ve been thinking about transitioning to another field all together. I’ve developed enough skills that I think are transferable - I’m just not exactly sure what the best fit would be. Have any of you transitioned careers from architecture? What did you end up doing? All in all I love being a designer, but I feel like I am putting more in to my architecture career than I am getting out of it. Thank you for your thoughts. | ed7nuv0 | ed7zabk | 1,546,589,578 | 1,546,606,689 | 1 | 5 | Omg this is literally what my nightmare was when I was choosing my major after a year of Architectural Studies. Decided to take Construction Management but people always tell me whenever I have doubts that "... if you love what you do, the pay is just a plus." I would love to hear anyone's perspective on this. Or I'll just make a question about it in the future. | I graduated in 2008, a bleak time to be an architect out of college, after a year I started studying for a masters in project management by night for 2 years. So 3 years after graduating I made the switch into a tech company building mobile apps. 6 years later I moved into a big data startup. Being an architect / having a grounding in creative problem solving is a great asset in the tech industry as you are largely surrounded by engineers so your ideas often stand out as different from the pack. You been trained to put together amazing presentations and crits have taught you resilience. It was the best decision I've ever made, I get paid a multiple of my architecture friends and theres no ceiling if you're ambitious enough. The hours are more regular too and the best bonus is that you are now the only architect among a group of people who all need architectural advice for their homes. Over the last 7 years, I've designed 5 work offices and 10+ housing extensions as a part time hobby which has been a blast. There are also plenty of pure design jobs in tech too, UX/UI work and beyond if you wanted to stay in the design world and get paid more. I wish you well, the road ahead has many turns but I would highly recommend making a leap, you never know where you will end up! | 0 | 17,111 | 5 | ||
acdteh | architecture_train | 0.94 | I’m thinking about ditching architecture... [ask] I have been working in small architecture firms since I graduated 4 years ago . I have gained a ton of skills and have come a long way as a designer and project lead - however I am starting to notice what seems to be an ever present financial ceiling that doesn’t seem justified. We all bust our asses day after day only to get flak from clients and contractors alike just so we can go home at the end of the week making far less than Zack who works at that fancy new startup that hasn’t even finalized a product yet. It just doesn’t seem worth it. Am I doing it wrong? Should I move to a larger company where benefits and pay increase is more common or would I get lost in the sea of people and just become a grinding cog in the machine? I’ve been thinking about transitioning to another field all together. I’ve developed enough skills that I think are transferable - I’m just not exactly sure what the best fit would be. Have any of you transitioned careers from architecture? What did you end up doing? All in all I love being a designer, but I feel like I am putting more in to my architecture career than I am getting out of it. Thank you for your thoughts. | ed7pev9 | ed983k6 | 1,546,591,568 | 1,546,638,514 | 2 | 3 | It's a very desirable job there are loads of trained architects competing... That's the trade off in interesting jobs... Less pay | >Am I doing it wrong? If your primary concern is making as much money as possible, then yes you're doing it wrong with Architecture. You can get rich - if you become the next Bjarke Ingalls. Odds are against that. But you need to decide for yourself how you want to measure success. In architecture, you'll likely make a decent but modest salary. You can do better going to bigger corporate firms like you mentioned. Become partner somewhere successful and you should easily pull in over 6 figures later in life. But just for me personally, architecture presses more "success" buttons than just earning a living. Money is not my main priority as long I have enough to get by comfortably enough (comfortably is a moving target, admittedly). But getting to build things - having a career that lets me be at least a bit creative - having a career where I always get to (in fact, have to) always keep learning things: those are important to me. I've had boring jobs where you are on autopilot after a few months. I hate them with a passion. I also have a need to make things and be creative and try stuff, and architecture is great for that too. Just some thoughts. Define your goals/idea for success before you jump at them too much. Otherwise you'll have an exciting couple years of change and then wonder why you did it. | 0 | 46,946 | 1.5 | ||
acdteh | architecture_train | 0.94 | I’m thinking about ditching architecture... [ask] I have been working in small architecture firms since I graduated 4 years ago . I have gained a ton of skills and have come a long way as a designer and project lead - however I am starting to notice what seems to be an ever present financial ceiling that doesn’t seem justified. We all bust our asses day after day only to get flak from clients and contractors alike just so we can go home at the end of the week making far less than Zack who works at that fancy new startup that hasn’t even finalized a product yet. It just doesn’t seem worth it. Am I doing it wrong? Should I move to a larger company where benefits and pay increase is more common or would I get lost in the sea of people and just become a grinding cog in the machine? I’ve been thinking about transitioning to another field all together. I’ve developed enough skills that I think are transferable - I’m just not exactly sure what the best fit would be. Have any of you transitioned careers from architecture? What did you end up doing? All in all I love being a designer, but I feel like I am putting more in to my architecture career than I am getting out of it. Thank you for your thoughts. | ed7nuv0 | ed7pev9 | 1,546,589,578 | 1,546,591,568 | 1 | 2 | Omg this is literally what my nightmare was when I was choosing my major after a year of Architectural Studies. Decided to take Construction Management but people always tell me whenever I have doubts that "... if you love what you do, the pay is just a plus." I would love to hear anyone's perspective on this. Or I'll just make a question about it in the future. | It's a very desirable job there are loads of trained architects competing... That's the trade off in interesting jobs... Less pay | 0 | 1,990 | 2 | ||
acdteh | architecture_train | 0.94 | I’m thinking about ditching architecture... [ask] I have been working in small architecture firms since I graduated 4 years ago . I have gained a ton of skills and have come a long way as a designer and project lead - however I am starting to notice what seems to be an ever present financial ceiling that doesn’t seem justified. We all bust our asses day after day only to get flak from clients and contractors alike just so we can go home at the end of the week making far less than Zack who works at that fancy new startup that hasn’t even finalized a product yet. It just doesn’t seem worth it. Am I doing it wrong? Should I move to a larger company where benefits and pay increase is more common or would I get lost in the sea of people and just become a grinding cog in the machine? I’ve been thinking about transitioning to another field all together. I’ve developed enough skills that I think are transferable - I’m just not exactly sure what the best fit would be. Have any of you transitioned careers from architecture? What did you end up doing? All in all I love being a designer, but I feel like I am putting more in to my architecture career than I am getting out of it. Thank you for your thoughts. | ed7oibp | ed983k6 | 1,546,590,367 | 1,546,638,514 | 2 | 3 | >We all bust our asses day after day only to get flak from clients and contractors alike We all bust our asses day after day only to get flak from *clients and architects* alike I'm working as an architectural design manager in a design-and-build firm for more than a decade. I can tell you grass is no greener on the other side. If you're going to stay in the industry, go work for the highest level of the pecking order. | >Am I doing it wrong? If your primary concern is making as much money as possible, then yes you're doing it wrong with Architecture. You can get rich - if you become the next Bjarke Ingalls. Odds are against that. But you need to decide for yourself how you want to measure success. In architecture, you'll likely make a decent but modest salary. You can do better going to bigger corporate firms like you mentioned. Become partner somewhere successful and you should easily pull in over 6 figures later in life. But just for me personally, architecture presses more "success" buttons than just earning a living. Money is not my main priority as long I have enough to get by comfortably enough (comfortably is a moving target, admittedly). But getting to build things - having a career that lets me be at least a bit creative - having a career where I always get to (in fact, have to) always keep learning things: those are important to me. I've had boring jobs where you are on autopilot after a few months. I hate them with a passion. I also have a need to make things and be creative and try stuff, and architecture is great for that too. Just some thoughts. Define your goals/idea for success before you jump at them too much. Otherwise you'll have an exciting couple years of change and then wonder why you did it. | 0 | 48,147 | 1.5 | ||
acdteh | architecture_train | 0.94 | I’m thinking about ditching architecture... [ask] I have been working in small architecture firms since I graduated 4 years ago . I have gained a ton of skills and have come a long way as a designer and project lead - however I am starting to notice what seems to be an ever present financial ceiling that doesn’t seem justified. We all bust our asses day after day only to get flak from clients and contractors alike just so we can go home at the end of the week making far less than Zack who works at that fancy new startup that hasn’t even finalized a product yet. It just doesn’t seem worth it. Am I doing it wrong? Should I move to a larger company where benefits and pay increase is more common or would I get lost in the sea of people and just become a grinding cog in the machine? I’ve been thinking about transitioning to another field all together. I’ve developed enough skills that I think are transferable - I’m just not exactly sure what the best fit would be. Have any of you transitioned careers from architecture? What did you end up doing? All in all I love being a designer, but I feel like I am putting more in to my architecture career than I am getting out of it. Thank you for your thoughts. | ed7nuv0 | ed983k6 | 1,546,589,578 | 1,546,638,514 | 1 | 3 | Omg this is literally what my nightmare was when I was choosing my major after a year of Architectural Studies. Decided to take Construction Management but people always tell me whenever I have doubts that "... if you love what you do, the pay is just a plus." I would love to hear anyone's perspective on this. Or I'll just make a question about it in the future. | >Am I doing it wrong? If your primary concern is making as much money as possible, then yes you're doing it wrong with Architecture. You can get rich - if you become the next Bjarke Ingalls. Odds are against that. But you need to decide for yourself how you want to measure success. In architecture, you'll likely make a decent but modest salary. You can do better going to bigger corporate firms like you mentioned. Become partner somewhere successful and you should easily pull in over 6 figures later in life. But just for me personally, architecture presses more "success" buttons than just earning a living. Money is not my main priority as long I have enough to get by comfortably enough (comfortably is a moving target, admittedly). But getting to build things - having a career that lets me be at least a bit creative - having a career where I always get to (in fact, have to) always keep learning things: those are important to me. I've had boring jobs where you are on autopilot after a few months. I hate them with a passion. I also have a need to make things and be creative and try stuff, and architecture is great for that too. Just some thoughts. Define your goals/idea for success before you jump at them too much. Otherwise you'll have an exciting couple years of change and then wonder why you did it. | 0 | 48,936 | 3 | ||
acdteh | architecture_train | 0.94 | I’m thinking about ditching architecture... [ask] I have been working in small architecture firms since I graduated 4 years ago . I have gained a ton of skills and have come a long way as a designer and project lead - however I am starting to notice what seems to be an ever present financial ceiling that doesn’t seem justified. We all bust our asses day after day only to get flak from clients and contractors alike just so we can go home at the end of the week making far less than Zack who works at that fancy new startup that hasn’t even finalized a product yet. It just doesn’t seem worth it. Am I doing it wrong? Should I move to a larger company where benefits and pay increase is more common or would I get lost in the sea of people and just become a grinding cog in the machine? I’ve been thinking about transitioning to another field all together. I’ve developed enough skills that I think are transferable - I’m just not exactly sure what the best fit would be. Have any of you transitioned careers from architecture? What did you end up doing? All in all I love being a designer, but I feel like I am putting more in to my architecture career than I am getting out of it. Thank you for your thoughts. | ed7nuv0 | ed7oibp | 1,546,589,578 | 1,546,590,367 | 1 | 2 | Omg this is literally what my nightmare was when I was choosing my major after a year of Architectural Studies. Decided to take Construction Management but people always tell me whenever I have doubts that "... if you love what you do, the pay is just a plus." I would love to hear anyone's perspective on this. Or I'll just make a question about it in the future. | >We all bust our asses day after day only to get flak from clients and contractors alike We all bust our asses day after day only to get flak from *clients and architects* alike I'm working as an architectural design manager in a design-and-build firm for more than a decade. I can tell you grass is no greener on the other side. If you're going to stay in the industry, go work for the highest level of the pecking order. | 0 | 789 | 2 | ||
le9yco | architecture_train | 0.91 | What are some of the most innovative (and least expensive) residential building materials you've seen come to market (or are coming to market) in the near future? For instance, the other day I read some Chinese company figured out a way to take sawdust, which previously was considered factory waste, and turn it into wildly strong composite wood (not sure that's the correct term). The implication was this could drastically change building costs at scale. Another article was about how scientists were growing "wood" furniture in labs (pitched as similar to how they are now growing "meat" like beyond meat). I'm guessing "growing" components could play a roll some day. They don't have to be as out there or innovative as the above examples but, basically, I'm wondering if there are any innovations coming down the pipeline that could bring down the material cost of new residential builds (as we've seen lumber costs sky rocket in the US recently). Or are there any cool materials/techniques you've seen used in recent work? | gmbsq13 | gmbne1b | 1,612,666,530 | 1,612,664,920 | 5 | 4 | There's this fungi byproduct material called mycelium that is getting rounds as an alternative building material, similar to what you are describing for the sawdust reuse. There's a company called Ecovative Design in NYC that is specializing in industrial design product packaging like wine bottles, personal hygiene, subscription boxes, etc. with these grown and compressed specimens, and they've experimented with building furniture and textile-grade materials out of it too. It's going to take a lot of research, but there's a possibility mycelium can be fortified enough to become mass-produced and start a viable, low-cost, load-bearing building material trend. | I don't know how the cost comparison shakes out but unitized bathrooms are fucking cool to me. Ditto panelized wall modules. The assembly lines for these products are sweet. I did a little deep dive on shop fabrication early in lock down and now I think we're approaching a tipping point for how buildings are made. Though I think the only way it cuts "material costs" is by reducing waste. It's more of a savings on the labor/time vector. | 1 | 1,610 | 1.25 | ||
q3jv91 | architecture_train | 0.75 | Architects I need help with some questions (I’m considering pursuing master in architecture) Long story made short I am finishing my biology bachelor with little desire of working in academia,labs or becoming a doctor. I’m a smart dude with a lot of creative power inside me, so my questions are 1) With a biology bachelor can I pursue a masters in architecture? (google says yes) will it be hard to make this transition? 2) What is the balance between creative and analytical duties in the day to day work? 3) Do you think AI will replace your job in the future, is it worth it becoming an architect? Is it a good investment? 4) Any things you hate about the career? | hft3xvy | hftj6y8 | 1,633,660,402 | 1,633,669,048 | 4 | 5 | I had a teacher who had 4 BA’s and told us how much he regretted not doing his MA because without the MA he wasn’t able to be a ‘full-on’ professor, which he wanted to do for retirement. This could be a state-to-state thing, or certain schools. But just a thought. | 1. Certainly an option to pursue an M.ARCH degree. Architecture is definitely not easy but if you like solving puzzles, it has potential to be rewarding. The classes will definitely be competitive and you’ll find yourself needing to really break the boundaries of what you think you know/understand. 2. Really depends where you end up working. I’m in a project manager in corporate interiors so the projects are very fast paced and you’ll often find yourself having to balance covering your ass and delivering the project with some stringent conditions. A lot of times you’ll find yourself needing to be 100% creative with your 100% analysis of the situation …. 3. Unlikely. And also the worth depends on the region you’re in. I’m based in NY and also in corporate so the pay can be a bit better than some other sectors. Your mileage may vary. 4. As you progress in the career, you’ll find yourself being a bit of a babysitter for your sub consultants and clients. My advice is to always be as accommodating as possible but firm in what you know and understand. Your relationship with the overall team can make or break a project. You’ll find yourself needing to be a strong salesman to sell a error 😂 | 0 | 8,646 | 1.25 | ||
q3jv91 | architecture_train | 0.75 | Architects I need help with some questions (I’m considering pursuing master in architecture) Long story made short I am finishing my biology bachelor with little desire of working in academia,labs or becoming a doctor. I’m a smart dude with a lot of creative power inside me, so my questions are 1) With a biology bachelor can I pursue a masters in architecture? (google says yes) will it be hard to make this transition? 2) What is the balance between creative and analytical duties in the day to day work? 3) Do you think AI will replace your job in the future, is it worth it becoming an architect? Is it a good investment? 4) Any things you hate about the career? | hftj6y8 | hft5wp5 | 1,633,669,048 | 1,633,661,348 | 5 | 3 | 1. Certainly an option to pursue an M.ARCH degree. Architecture is definitely not easy but if you like solving puzzles, it has potential to be rewarding. The classes will definitely be competitive and you’ll find yourself needing to really break the boundaries of what you think you know/understand. 2. Really depends where you end up working. I’m in a project manager in corporate interiors so the projects are very fast paced and you’ll often find yourself having to balance covering your ass and delivering the project with some stringent conditions. A lot of times you’ll find yourself needing to be 100% creative with your 100% analysis of the situation …. 3. Unlikely. And also the worth depends on the region you’re in. I’m based in NY and also in corporate so the pay can be a bit better than some other sectors. Your mileage may vary. 4. As you progress in the career, you’ll find yourself being a bit of a babysitter for your sub consultants and clients. My advice is to always be as accommodating as possible but firm in what you know and understand. Your relationship with the overall team can make or break a project. You’ll find yourself needing to be a strong salesman to sell a error 😂 | One of my former bosses has a biology degree. He used to joke that he was a zookeeper before getting his MArch from University of Houston. He became the Principal of the firm when the founder retired in the early 2000’s. He recently retired from that position and is now a consultant for green architecture, etc My husband has observed that he’s so frugal he’s driving the same car as he did when I worked there in 2008. He was dedicated to the firm employees, treating them/me as his own children (since he doesn’t have children if his own, by choice). May I ask you: what is it about architecture that interests you the most? | 1 | 7,700 | 1.666667 | ||
e5f3dh | architecture_train | 1 | [Ask] can someone please enlighten me? Well, I'm 20 years old and I'm thinking of studying architecture. I don't have many close friends family who know about this topic so if someone can tell me their experience as a student or professional it would be very helpful | f9juvsj | f9jmmah | 1,575,386,348 | 1,575,379,920 | 7 | 5 | I finished my bachelor degree of architecture last year, and this is what I can say; it is not easy, you need to have motivation or strong commitment to keep going. A lot of my friends giving up in the middle of study, and don’t ever think that it will be easier after you graduate cause it is only getting worse. The salary is not worth the working time, and you don’t even get to design, most of the time you will be just working with those tiny little details. My point is if you want to be architect just because of the money, drop it right away, you step on the wrong path. You need to have a passion in design, and of course be ready for the sleepless night. (I don’t know if everyone also feels like that, but at least it happens to me). Good luck! | Architecture is a generalist degree, meaning it is best to know a little bit of everything and later on choose a path you'd want to further develop, much like a skill tree in an rpg game. Like any other job, it needs a lot of dedication and discipline and if you get acclimated to it you'd get to discover art all around you, hence the term "architect's eye." Critical thinking is the most valuable trait for an architect to have, and I believe the best ones out there are the ones who have successfully balanced the art and science aspects of architecture. Although the business side of it is not taught much in school, that is also an integral part. Finally, it is a feast-or-famine kind of job in my opinion. You can have years of being under the radar and suddenly be in the limelight and vice-versa. | 1 | 6,428 | 1.4 | ||
e5f3dh | architecture_train | 1 | [Ask] can someone please enlighten me? Well, I'm 20 years old and I'm thinking of studying architecture. I don't have many close friends family who know about this topic so if someone can tell me their experience as a student or professional it would be very helpful | f9juvsj | f9jo9t4 | 1,575,386,348 | 1,575,381,356 | 7 | 3 | I finished my bachelor degree of architecture last year, and this is what I can say; it is not easy, you need to have motivation or strong commitment to keep going. A lot of my friends giving up in the middle of study, and don’t ever think that it will be easier after you graduate cause it is only getting worse. The salary is not worth the working time, and you don’t even get to design, most of the time you will be just working with those tiny little details. My point is if you want to be architect just because of the money, drop it right away, you step on the wrong path. You need to have a passion in design, and of course be ready for the sleepless night. (I don’t know if everyone also feels like that, but at least it happens to me). Good luck! | I did a year of architecture studio and switched to product design ("architecture for everything smaller than buildings" as it was described to me). I ended up dropping in junior year but really enjoyed it. People from my studio went on to develop hardware for Nokia and Microsoft, do software design for YouTube and amazon, one designs cookware and jewelry. It's a very flexible degree that teaches problem solving (in my experience). No matter what, be ready to draw a lot and labor over details that you may have never thought of before. (My experience in early 2000s). | 1 | 4,992 | 2.333333 | ||
e5f3dh | architecture_train | 1 | [Ask] can someone please enlighten me? Well, I'm 20 years old and I'm thinking of studying architecture. I don't have many close friends family who know about this topic so if someone can tell me their experience as a student or professional it would be very helpful | f9jguxa | f9juvsj | 1,575,373,743 | 1,575,386,348 | 2 | 7 | In universities typically a student may take a design unit, a technical unit, and a history/theory unit. In most universities for architecture there are no exams, but we have major projects which are graded. | I finished my bachelor degree of architecture last year, and this is what I can say; it is not easy, you need to have motivation or strong commitment to keep going. A lot of my friends giving up in the middle of study, and don’t ever think that it will be easier after you graduate cause it is only getting worse. The salary is not worth the working time, and you don’t even get to design, most of the time you will be just working with those tiny little details. My point is if you want to be architect just because of the money, drop it right away, you step on the wrong path. You need to have a passion in design, and of course be ready for the sleepless night. (I don’t know if everyone also feels like that, but at least it happens to me). Good luck! | 0 | 12,605 | 3.5 | ||
e5f3dh | architecture_train | 1 | [Ask] can someone please enlighten me? Well, I'm 20 years old and I'm thinking of studying architecture. I don't have many close friends family who know about this topic so if someone can tell me their experience as a student or professional it would be very helpful | f9juvsj | f9jr99u | 1,575,386,348 | 1,575,383,726 | 7 | 2 | I finished my bachelor degree of architecture last year, and this is what I can say; it is not easy, you need to have motivation or strong commitment to keep going. A lot of my friends giving up in the middle of study, and don’t ever think that it will be easier after you graduate cause it is only getting worse. The salary is not worth the working time, and you don’t even get to design, most of the time you will be just working with those tiny little details. My point is if you want to be architect just because of the money, drop it right away, you step on the wrong path. You need to have a passion in design, and of course be ready for the sleepless night. (I don’t know if everyone also feels like that, but at least it happens to me). Good luck! | Heya, I'm 20 also and currently studying architecture. I posted a comment of how I'm finding it so far in another thread. Link here: https://www.reddit.com/r/unimelb/comments/drkw7o/architecture\_vs\_environmental\_engineering\_systems/f6o9ocq/ If you have other questions, feel free to message me! | 1 | 2,622 | 3.5 | ||
e5f3dh | architecture_train | 1 | [Ask] can someone please enlighten me? Well, I'm 20 years old and I'm thinking of studying architecture. I don't have many close friends family who know about this topic so if someone can tell me their experience as a student or professional it would be very helpful | f9jguxa | f9jmmah | 1,575,373,743 | 1,575,379,920 | 2 | 5 | In universities typically a student may take a design unit, a technical unit, and a history/theory unit. In most universities for architecture there are no exams, but we have major projects which are graded. | Architecture is a generalist degree, meaning it is best to know a little bit of everything and later on choose a path you'd want to further develop, much like a skill tree in an rpg game. Like any other job, it needs a lot of dedication and discipline and if you get acclimated to it you'd get to discover art all around you, hence the term "architect's eye." Critical thinking is the most valuable trait for an architect to have, and I believe the best ones out there are the ones who have successfully balanced the art and science aspects of architecture. Although the business side of it is not taught much in school, that is also an integral part. Finally, it is a feast-or-famine kind of job in my opinion. You can have years of being under the radar and suddenly be in the limelight and vice-versa. | 0 | 6,177 | 2.5 | ||
e5f3dh | architecture_train | 1 | [Ask] can someone please enlighten me? Well, I'm 20 years old and I'm thinking of studying architecture. I don't have many close friends family who know about this topic so if someone can tell me their experience as a student or professional it would be very helpful | f9jo9t4 | f9kdo0w | 1,575,381,356 | 1,575,398,262 | 3 | 5 | I did a year of architecture studio and switched to product design ("architecture for everything smaller than buildings" as it was described to me). I ended up dropping in junior year but really enjoyed it. People from my studio went on to develop hardware for Nokia and Microsoft, do software design for YouTube and amazon, one designs cookware and jewelry. It's a very flexible degree that teaches problem solving (in my experience). No matter what, be ready to draw a lot and labor over details that you may have never thought of before. (My experience in early 2000s). | I can tell you that I had some random reasons for getting into architecture and they worked out well for me. I didn't really know what to do after high school so (at the recommendation of one of my teachers) I spent some time thinking about what I really enjoyed so far in life, what classes I liked, etc. I settled on a couple things primarily: I liked my science classes because I enjoy learning about how the world around me works. And I liked my art classes because art was an interesting medium for learning about how *we* work. After talking with that teacher more, they recommended architecture to me, which I jumped into not really knowing anything about it. It's worked out well. With Architecture, there is *always* more to learn. An overwhelming amount, to be honest. There are always new systems to be learning, details, standards, codes, design philosophies and trends, skills, etc. You can push yourself as hard as you like and never reach the end. Architecture as an art also is a very intimate application of "art" to life. It's something that impacts us on a day to day basis. Even though those do a poor job describing the day to day reality of the profession, I think they capture sort of a very background attitude or 'life priority' which I think is useful to have for it. That's not to say it's the only approach either though, I know a lot of people with very different motivations in this industry. | 0 | 16,906 | 1.666667 | ||
e5f3dh | architecture_train | 1 | [Ask] can someone please enlighten me? Well, I'm 20 years old and I'm thinking of studying architecture. I don't have many close friends family who know about this topic so if someone can tell me their experience as a student or professional it would be very helpful | f9kdo0w | f9jguxa | 1,575,398,262 | 1,575,373,743 | 5 | 2 | I can tell you that I had some random reasons for getting into architecture and they worked out well for me. I didn't really know what to do after high school so (at the recommendation of one of my teachers) I spent some time thinking about what I really enjoyed so far in life, what classes I liked, etc. I settled on a couple things primarily: I liked my science classes because I enjoy learning about how the world around me works. And I liked my art classes because art was an interesting medium for learning about how *we* work. After talking with that teacher more, they recommended architecture to me, which I jumped into not really knowing anything about it. It's worked out well. With Architecture, there is *always* more to learn. An overwhelming amount, to be honest. There are always new systems to be learning, details, standards, codes, design philosophies and trends, skills, etc. You can push yourself as hard as you like and never reach the end. Architecture as an art also is a very intimate application of "art" to life. It's something that impacts us on a day to day basis. Even though those do a poor job describing the day to day reality of the profession, I think they capture sort of a very background attitude or 'life priority' which I think is useful to have for it. That's not to say it's the only approach either though, I know a lot of people with very different motivations in this industry. | In universities typically a student may take a design unit, a technical unit, and a history/theory unit. In most universities for architecture there are no exams, but we have major projects which are graded. | 1 | 24,519 | 2.5 | ||
e5f3dh | architecture_train | 1 | [Ask] can someone please enlighten me? Well, I'm 20 years old and I'm thinking of studying architecture. I don't have many close friends family who know about this topic so if someone can tell me their experience as a student or professional it would be very helpful | f9jr99u | f9kdo0w | 1,575,383,726 | 1,575,398,262 | 2 | 5 | Heya, I'm 20 also and currently studying architecture. I posted a comment of how I'm finding it so far in another thread. Link here: https://www.reddit.com/r/unimelb/comments/drkw7o/architecture\_vs\_environmental\_engineering\_systems/f6o9ocq/ If you have other questions, feel free to message me! | I can tell you that I had some random reasons for getting into architecture and they worked out well for me. I didn't really know what to do after high school so (at the recommendation of one of my teachers) I spent some time thinking about what I really enjoyed so far in life, what classes I liked, etc. I settled on a couple things primarily: I liked my science classes because I enjoy learning about how the world around me works. And I liked my art classes because art was an interesting medium for learning about how *we* work. After talking with that teacher more, they recommended architecture to me, which I jumped into not really knowing anything about it. It's worked out well. With Architecture, there is *always* more to learn. An overwhelming amount, to be honest. There are always new systems to be learning, details, standards, codes, design philosophies and trends, skills, etc. You can push yourself as hard as you like and never reach the end. Architecture as an art also is a very intimate application of "art" to life. It's something that impacts us on a day to day basis. Even though those do a poor job describing the day to day reality of the profession, I think they capture sort of a very background attitude or 'life priority' which I think is useful to have for it. That's not to say it's the only approach either though, I know a lot of people with very different motivations in this industry. | 0 | 14,536 | 2.5 | ||
e5f3dh | architecture_train | 1 | [Ask] can someone please enlighten me? Well, I'm 20 years old and I'm thinking of studying architecture. I don't have many close friends family who know about this topic so if someone can tell me their experience as a student or professional it would be very helpful | f9jguxa | f9jo9t4 | 1,575,373,743 | 1,575,381,356 | 2 | 3 | In universities typically a student may take a design unit, a technical unit, and a history/theory unit. In most universities for architecture there are no exams, but we have major projects which are graded. | I did a year of architecture studio and switched to product design ("architecture for everything smaller than buildings" as it was described to me). I ended up dropping in junior year but really enjoyed it. People from my studio went on to develop hardware for Nokia and Microsoft, do software design for YouTube and amazon, one designs cookware and jewelry. It's a very flexible degree that teaches problem solving (in my experience). No matter what, be ready to draw a lot and labor over details that you may have never thought of before. (My experience in early 2000s). | 0 | 7,613 | 1.5 | ||
c36bzh | architecture_train | 0.86 | [ask] Student here, is this a good restoration idea for an old building? So, I have a presentation for a project and I could use a second opinion. 1. left is the original plans. 2. right is how I am planing to make it look 3. bottom is a 3d model on how it will supposedly look after the restoration, I am planning to make it a student playhouse. I have 2 main problems: 1. My main problem is, I have to make it acessible to disabled people, but I am not really sure exactly where to place the "elevator" If I place it on the bottom side (from where we are looking) it will be difficult for people to enter, but on the top side I will have to demolish that wall. So I am not sure what to do here... 2. I am not sure what to do with that wooden window and oven at the bottom right(that i circled red), at least for the top of the building. My teacher kept asking me what is in that "NR" room and honestly, I have no idea because it is not acessible, so I will have to utilize it for something... But keep those two intact somehow? I am not really sure what I can do in this part eiter x.x; So yeah, a bit of input would be appreciated. If you see any other issues please let me know! Thank you in advance! https://preview.redd.it/k7le3z1x1n531.jpg?width=3500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=b797570d45c4241055e7bc39d5ad5488b3cd19eb | erpc78t | erqelxq | 1,561,110,694 | 1,561,141,558 | 1 | 2 | Sorry if it all seems negative, but it's easier to criticise, so here goes: I'd try and get a proper vertical wheelchair lift in there rather than one of those on-stair things. They're good in residential spaces where the resident needs one, or where you've got a very wide staircase, but I don't think it works for your use. The NR space might be good for this as another use suggested (although perhaps too large?) What's the other blank space in the basement being used for? There's no toilet. There's no ceiling. It makes your 3D view look pretty weird. Have a skillion ceiling if you like, but you shouldn't just see the underside of the roofing tiles and nothing else. You've got the stair arrows running in opposite directions in your existing and proposed drawings. Pick whichever direction is standard in your country and stick to it. 'Ground Floor' is two words. The spelling is 'infirmary'. I also don't understand why it exists if this is like a student breakout/common room/games room/etc type thing. You got those labels and a coloured dot, but nothing to actually relate them to a room. Why not just put the text label within the room? Those basement doors are a fire egress hazard opening inwards like that. As they're on stairs they can't really open the other way, so I'd just ditch them. Build a new partition on the upper floor if you want doors to that space. Dimensions would be better outside the building where practical. It's pretty messy and confusing with all these dimensions crossing over each other, I can't quite tell what's what. You've arguably over dimensioned the drawing. All those dimensions for the rebates in the wall around the windows can be included in a detail drawing instead of on the plans. If you're not changing any of that from existing to proposed, retaining existing windows, etc, then you don't really even need to go that far, just overall set-out. The diagonal dimensions to the column in the centre of the basement aren't the most useful. You're better off dimensioning horizontally and vertically. Much easier to work out where it is. I think the room is too small for two pool tables unless you get rid of 1-2 ping-pong tables. One on the west face is really close to the wall, it'll be hard to take certain shots. The eastern one is close to a wall in the corner, but also right next to a sofa so you can smack people in the head when you pull back to take a shot. | The 3D doesn't match the information on the plans, I find it very hard to understand what is going on here, where is the basement? why is a door in ground floor standing on top of a basement window, isn't that impossible? make sure everything is in scale because it looks fishy as well. It seems people weren't originally intended to be staying long in that basement, you have to do something about it in terms of accesibility, fire safety and air quality. When it comes to accessibility, a wheelchair lift is not enough, think about the able bodied users, that stair is extremely uncomfortable and is designed to be used only occasionally, it should be entirely redone. The basement door cannot stay there either, it should at least be able to open outwards for fire safety reasons, or give another way out. Also if you change the original use, it's no longer a restoration but a rehabilitation, you're keeping the construction but changing everything else, I know its a bit of a rant but semantics are important. | 0 | 30,864 | 2 | ||
ojja98 | architecture_train | 0.81 | What is a good gift for an architecture graduate? Remove if not allowed. My girlfriend is graduating as an architect soon and I want to give her a gift related to her new career. What is a good gift for a new architect? | h52vnuo | h53yeaq | 1,626,209,360 | 1,626,228,995 | 2 | 5 | You could get her something for her desk or a business card holder. (I have gotten things like that as gifts and always love it.) I also use a lot of notebooks to take notes in or make my to-do lists. Or some cool architecture art. I really love Wonder City Studio. I just bought one of his art deco drawings that I'm going to put up in my home office. Or you can get one of those Lego Architecture sets or those metal building ones if you know what style she likes. | A vacation, or a really nice pillow. She's probably exhausted | 0 | 19,635 | 2.5 | ||
ojja98 | architecture_train | 0.81 | What is a good gift for an architecture graduate? Remove if not allowed. My girlfriend is graduating as an architect soon and I want to give her a gift related to her new career. What is a good gift for a new architect? | h53c0id | h53yeaq | 1,626,217,211 | 1,626,228,995 | 2 | 5 | https://www.amazon.com/Copic-Sketch-Markers-Multiliner-Sketching/dp/B004XR97EQ | A vacation, or a really nice pillow. She's probably exhausted | 0 | 11,784 | 2.5 | ||
ojja98 | architecture_train | 0.81 | What is a good gift for an architecture graduate? Remove if not allowed. My girlfriend is graduating as an architect soon and I want to give her a gift related to her new career. What is a good gift for a new architect? | h533ggj | h53yeaq | 1,626,212,992 | 1,626,228,995 | 1 | 5 | A wireless keyboard would be pretty nice for all the computer work she’s going to be doing. Head over to r/mechanicalkeyboards for some inspo. A good wireless ergonomic mouse would be great too. | A vacation, or a really nice pillow. She's probably exhausted | 0 | 16,003 | 5 | ||
ojja98 | architecture_train | 0.81 | What is a good gift for an architecture graduate? Remove if not allowed. My girlfriend is graduating as an architect soon and I want to give her a gift related to her new career. What is a good gift for a new architect? | h52vnuo | h54po8r | 1,626,209,360 | 1,626,247,940 | 2 | 3 | You could get her something for her desk or a business card holder. (I have gotten things like that as gifts and always love it.) I also use a lot of notebooks to take notes in or make my to-do lists. Or some cool architecture art. I really love Wonder City Studio. I just bought one of his art deco drawings that I'm going to put up in my home office. Or you can get one of those Lego Architecture sets or those metal building ones if you know what style she likes. | A year subscription for her favourite architecture magazine A good laser meter (if she doesn't have already) An holiday somewhere | 0 | 38,580 | 1.5 | ||
ojja98 | architecture_train | 0.81 | What is a good gift for an architecture graduate? Remove if not allowed. My girlfriend is graduating as an architect soon and I want to give her a gift related to her new career. What is a good gift for a new architect? | h53c0id | h54po8r | 1,626,217,211 | 1,626,247,940 | 2 | 3 | https://www.amazon.com/Copic-Sketch-Markers-Multiliner-Sketching/dp/B004XR97EQ | A year subscription for her favourite architecture magazine A good laser meter (if she doesn't have already) An holiday somewhere | 0 | 30,729 | 1.5 | ||
ojja98 | architecture_train | 0.81 | What is a good gift for an architecture graduate? Remove if not allowed. My girlfriend is graduating as an architect soon and I want to give her a gift related to her new career. What is a good gift for a new architect? | h54po8r | h533ggj | 1,626,247,940 | 1,626,212,992 | 3 | 1 | A year subscription for her favourite architecture magazine A good laser meter (if she doesn't have already) An holiday somewhere | A wireless keyboard would be pretty nice for all the computer work she’s going to be doing. Head over to r/mechanicalkeyboards for some inspo. A good wireless ergonomic mouse would be great too. | 1 | 34,948 | 3 | ||
ojja98 | architecture_train | 0.81 | What is a good gift for an architecture graduate? Remove if not allowed. My girlfriend is graduating as an architect soon and I want to give her a gift related to her new career. What is a good gift for a new architect? | h52vnuo | h57tplo | 1,626,209,360 | 1,626,308,167 | 2 | 3 | You could get her something for her desk or a business card holder. (I have gotten things like that as gifts and always love it.) I also use a lot of notebooks to take notes in or make my to-do lists. Or some cool architecture art. I really love Wonder City Studio. I just bought one of his art deco drawings that I'm going to put up in my home office. Or you can get one of those Lego Architecture sets or those metal building ones if you know what style she likes. | is she graduating undergrad, grad, or becoming a licensed architect? Those are all different stages of becoming a professional in the field. Depending on budget, you could get her a cool/personalized notebook (moleskin is an industry trend) for sketching, a series of cool markers/pens. If she’s still got school to go (in between undergrad and masters) a solid laptop bag will go a long way if she doesn’t have one already. Ask a female friend to help pick styles. My wife loves the one I got her a while back. Subscription for some architecture/design magazines could be neat. Or a large insulated cup with a lid/straw. Drinking water at your desk is hard to remember to do when you’re on deadlines. | 0 | 98,807 | 1.5 | ||
ojja98 | architecture_train | 0.81 | What is a good gift for an architecture graduate? Remove if not allowed. My girlfriend is graduating as an architect soon and I want to give her a gift related to her new career. What is a good gift for a new architect? | h57tplo | h53c0id | 1,626,308,167 | 1,626,217,211 | 3 | 2 | is she graduating undergrad, grad, or becoming a licensed architect? Those are all different stages of becoming a professional in the field. Depending on budget, you could get her a cool/personalized notebook (moleskin is an industry trend) for sketching, a series of cool markers/pens. If she’s still got school to go (in between undergrad and masters) a solid laptop bag will go a long way if she doesn’t have one already. Ask a female friend to help pick styles. My wife loves the one I got her a while back. Subscription for some architecture/design magazines could be neat. Or a large insulated cup with a lid/straw. Drinking water at your desk is hard to remember to do when you’re on deadlines. | https://www.amazon.com/Copic-Sketch-Markers-Multiliner-Sketching/dp/B004XR97EQ | 1 | 90,956 | 1.5 | ||
ojja98 | architecture_train | 0.81 | What is a good gift for an architecture graduate? Remove if not allowed. My girlfriend is graduating as an architect soon and I want to give her a gift related to her new career. What is a good gift for a new architect? | h57tplo | h533ggj | 1,626,308,167 | 1,626,212,992 | 3 | 1 | is she graduating undergrad, grad, or becoming a licensed architect? Those are all different stages of becoming a professional in the field. Depending on budget, you could get her a cool/personalized notebook (moleskin is an industry trend) for sketching, a series of cool markers/pens. If she’s still got school to go (in between undergrad and masters) a solid laptop bag will go a long way if she doesn’t have one already. Ask a female friend to help pick styles. My wife loves the one I got her a while back. Subscription for some architecture/design magazines could be neat. Or a large insulated cup with a lid/straw. Drinking water at your desk is hard to remember to do when you’re on deadlines. | A wireless keyboard would be pretty nice for all the computer work she’s going to be doing. Head over to r/mechanicalkeyboards for some inspo. A good wireless ergonomic mouse would be great too. | 1 | 95,175 | 3 | ||
ojja98 | architecture_train | 0.81 | What is a good gift for an architecture graduate? Remove if not allowed. My girlfriend is graduating as an architect soon and I want to give her a gift related to her new career. What is a good gift for a new architect? | h53c0id | h533ggj | 1,626,217,211 | 1,626,212,992 | 2 | 1 | https://www.amazon.com/Copic-Sketch-Markers-Multiliner-Sketching/dp/B004XR97EQ | A wireless keyboard would be pretty nice for all the computer work she’s going to be doing. Head over to r/mechanicalkeyboards for some inspo. A good wireless ergonomic mouse would be great too. | 1 | 4,219 | 2 | ||
99jz8r | architecture_train | 0.95 | [ask] I am 31 and looking seriously into going back to school for architecture. Is this a bad idea or totally feasible at my age? Looking for helpful advice or stories! It is something I have always been interested in and decided to take a real swing at it. I already have a 4 year degree in a totally different major(political science international development). Should I try to get an internship right away since I have 8ish years of experience in office settings? I would also like to concentrate on environmental architecture(sustainability and buildings), if that is possible. Thanks for your help! | e4oj99v | e4oqtoj | 1,535,008,850 | 1,535,023,706 | 6 | 7 | Follow your dreams! | Because you have a 4 year degree already you can just get an MArch, most programs will be 3 years. If you were starting from scratch you’d have to do at least 5 years to get a BArch. That being said, I’ve been in the industry for 5 years and really regret my decision to go into this field of work. All I can say is that you will work very hard and the compensation will almost certainly leave you feeling underwhelmed. Being a martyr for your career is a systemic problem in Architecture. If you’re really passionate about it, go for it. Just do some research first and make sure it’s something you really want to do. | 0 | 14,856 | 1.166667 | ||
99jz8r | architecture_train | 0.95 | [ask] I am 31 and looking seriously into going back to school for architecture. Is this a bad idea or totally feasible at my age? Looking for helpful advice or stories! It is something I have always been interested in and decided to take a real swing at it. I already have a 4 year degree in a totally different major(political science international development). Should I try to get an internship right away since I have 8ish years of experience in office settings? I would also like to concentrate on environmental architecture(sustainability and buildings), if that is possible. Thanks for your help! | e4oo4lm | e4oj99v | 1,535,018,932 | 1,535,008,850 | 7 | 6 | In my opinion it really depends on what is the economic situation in your country or in the country you wish to work. I teach Architecture in Romania 🇷🇴 here we have 6 years of school and a minimum of two to get your signature after school. You can get a job in Architecture after the 3rd year in my opinion. Earlier then this it is going to be hard to get and very hard at work for you and your employer. In my opinion the recession in Architecture is starting to get better €/h is getting better to still under the norm for similar education. PS this is relevant for Romania and central eastern Europe. Investigate the market first. But if you have the money to live then IT'S NEVER TO LATE! :* | Follow your dreams! | 1 | 10,082 | 1.166667 | ||
99jz8r | architecture_train | 0.95 | [ask] I am 31 and looking seriously into going back to school for architecture. Is this a bad idea or totally feasible at my age? Looking for helpful advice or stories! It is something I have always been interested in and decided to take a real swing at it. I already have a 4 year degree in a totally different major(political science international development). Should I try to get an internship right away since I have 8ish years of experience in office settings? I would also like to concentrate on environmental architecture(sustainability and buildings), if that is possible. Thanks for your help! | e4perbq | e4ov5dy | 1,535,046,462 | 1,535,029,244 | 5 | 3 | Don’t do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! At least not without first getting a thorough idea of what the actual work is going to be like. IMO it's not nearly as romantic nor creative as many are lead to believe. I was in my 30’s when I started my M.Arch (BA in another discipline) from a top school. The pedagogy does a disservice in their misrepresentation or lack of representation of the workplace. Unless you’re extremely good \**and*\* lucky (nepotism and false hierarchy abounds) you will likely be a cog in a machine doing uncreative work, expected to work long hours (easier to do when you’re young, which most of your peers will be) (ridiculous hours are a huge cultural problem perpetuated in schools - after all it’s the architecture buildings on campuses that have the lights on all night) for less pay than the engineers and contractors working on the same job (the pay imbalance is also the profession’s fault - there’s enough competition that someone will inevitably bid lower). Just look at the average starting pay (even with an M.Arch you'll still be bottom of the rung) in your city (available via the AIA) and consider the loans you’ll come out of school with. And then compare to other professions...I went into my grad program thinking that money didn’t matter, because I’d be doing something I love. I was even similarly warned by others who preceded me. I’m just glad that through scholarships and being a TA that my loans were negligible, because the work is definitely not something I love. Don’t get me wrong, I love architecture and design, it’s just that your chances of doing any design in your first 5-10 years is low. You’ve been warned... | I went back at 31/32. It’s feasible if you are either single or married with no kids. Add kids to the equation I would say the odds are not in your favor. | 1 | 17,218 | 1.666667 | ||
99jz8r | architecture_train | 0.95 | [ask] I am 31 and looking seriously into going back to school for architecture. Is this a bad idea or totally feasible at my age? Looking for helpful advice or stories! It is something I have always been interested in and decided to take a real swing at it. I already have a 4 year degree in a totally different major(political science international development). Should I try to get an internship right away since I have 8ish years of experience in office settings? I would also like to concentrate on environmental architecture(sustainability and buildings), if that is possible. Thanks for your help! | e4oxpgf | e4perbq | 1,535,031,861 | 1,535,046,462 | 3 | 5 | If you are interested in sustainability and practical design, I would recommend the University of Oregon's three year Masters program (if you're interested in living in Eugene or Portland). There are plenty of other grad students there doing the same thing you are. | Don’t do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! At least not without first getting a thorough idea of what the actual work is going to be like. IMO it's not nearly as romantic nor creative as many are lead to believe. I was in my 30’s when I started my M.Arch (BA in another discipline) from a top school. The pedagogy does a disservice in their misrepresentation or lack of representation of the workplace. Unless you’re extremely good \**and*\* lucky (nepotism and false hierarchy abounds) you will likely be a cog in a machine doing uncreative work, expected to work long hours (easier to do when you’re young, which most of your peers will be) (ridiculous hours are a huge cultural problem perpetuated in schools - after all it’s the architecture buildings on campuses that have the lights on all night) for less pay than the engineers and contractors working on the same job (the pay imbalance is also the profession’s fault - there’s enough competition that someone will inevitably bid lower). Just look at the average starting pay (even with an M.Arch you'll still be bottom of the rung) in your city (available via the AIA) and consider the loans you’ll come out of school with. And then compare to other professions...I went into my grad program thinking that money didn’t matter, because I’d be doing something I love. I was even similarly warned by others who preceded me. I’m just glad that through scholarships and being a TA that my loans were negligible, because the work is definitely not something I love. Don’t get me wrong, I love architecture and design, it’s just that your chances of doing any design in your first 5-10 years is low. You’ve been warned... | 0 | 14,601 | 1.666667 | ||
99jz8r | architecture_train | 0.95 | [ask] I am 31 and looking seriously into going back to school for architecture. Is this a bad idea or totally feasible at my age? Looking for helpful advice or stories! It is something I have always been interested in and decided to take a real swing at it. I already have a 4 year degree in a totally different major(political science international development). Should I try to get an internship right away since I have 8ish years of experience in office settings? I would also like to concentrate on environmental architecture(sustainability and buildings), if that is possible. Thanks for your help! | e4p3h3z | e4perbq | 1,535,037,009 | 1,535,046,462 | 3 | 5 | I went back for a civil engineering degree at 36. It was ridiculously hard but I made it out in one piece. I mean, I had to figure out calculus with a music degree. As long as you are totally committed and see yourself in the industry afterwards you should be ok. By that I mean, don’t just get a degree and then look for a job. Fixate on aspects to distinguish yourself as a serious designer. I wanted in on the sustainability kick, as broad as that sounds. I started volunteering for the solar car team, worked on conferences, started a design team for sustainable housing and competed in international design competitions. Even with all that, the engineering firms were not real interested in interviewing a middle aged guy based on the above ‘resume’. Tl;dr look past the degree and see where you would like to be in industry afterwards and follow a path. | Don’t do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! At least not without first getting a thorough idea of what the actual work is going to be like. IMO it's not nearly as romantic nor creative as many are lead to believe. I was in my 30’s when I started my M.Arch (BA in another discipline) from a top school. The pedagogy does a disservice in their misrepresentation or lack of representation of the workplace. Unless you’re extremely good \**and*\* lucky (nepotism and false hierarchy abounds) you will likely be a cog in a machine doing uncreative work, expected to work long hours (easier to do when you’re young, which most of your peers will be) (ridiculous hours are a huge cultural problem perpetuated in schools - after all it’s the architecture buildings on campuses that have the lights on all night) for less pay than the engineers and contractors working on the same job (the pay imbalance is also the profession’s fault - there’s enough competition that someone will inevitably bid lower). Just look at the average starting pay (even with an M.Arch you'll still be bottom of the rung) in your city (available via the AIA) and consider the loans you’ll come out of school with. And then compare to other professions...I went into my grad program thinking that money didn’t matter, because I’d be doing something I love. I was even similarly warned by others who preceded me. I’m just glad that through scholarships and being a TA that my loans were negligible, because the work is definitely not something I love. Don’t get me wrong, I love architecture and design, it’s just that your chances of doing any design in your first 5-10 years is low. You’ve been warned... | 0 | 9,453 | 1.666667 | ||
99jz8r | architecture_train | 0.95 | [ask] I am 31 and looking seriously into going back to school for architecture. Is this a bad idea or totally feasible at my age? Looking for helpful advice or stories! It is something I have always been interested in and decided to take a real swing at it. I already have a 4 year degree in a totally different major(political science international development). Should I try to get an internship right away since I have 8ish years of experience in office settings? I would also like to concentrate on environmental architecture(sustainability and buildings), if that is possible. Thanks for your help! | e4oykll | e4perbq | 1,535,032,682 | 1,535,046,462 | 2 | 5 | I'd agree that's it's feasible at any age. I started my B.A. (in political science oddly enough) at 29. My uncle started his B.A. at 42 before going through law school after that. As others have said, make sure it's something about which you're passionate. But then go for it! I'm considering going back for a master's degree in something more like what I do. The PoliSci thing was prep for law school but I decided it wasn't for me. Best of luck! | Don’t do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! At least not without first getting a thorough idea of what the actual work is going to be like. IMO it's not nearly as romantic nor creative as many are lead to believe. I was in my 30’s when I started my M.Arch (BA in another discipline) from a top school. The pedagogy does a disservice in their misrepresentation or lack of representation of the workplace. Unless you’re extremely good \**and*\* lucky (nepotism and false hierarchy abounds) you will likely be a cog in a machine doing uncreative work, expected to work long hours (easier to do when you’re young, which most of your peers will be) (ridiculous hours are a huge cultural problem perpetuated in schools - after all it’s the architecture buildings on campuses that have the lights on all night) for less pay than the engineers and contractors working on the same job (the pay imbalance is also the profession’s fault - there’s enough competition that someone will inevitably bid lower). Just look at the average starting pay (even with an M.Arch you'll still be bottom of the rung) in your city (available via the AIA) and consider the loans you’ll come out of school with. And then compare to other professions...I went into my grad program thinking that money didn’t matter, because I’d be doing something I love. I was even similarly warned by others who preceded me. I’m just glad that through scholarships and being a TA that my loans were negligible, because the work is definitely not something I love. Don’t get me wrong, I love architecture and design, it’s just that your chances of doing any design in your first 5-10 years is low. You’ve been warned... | 0 | 13,780 | 2.5 | ||
99jz8r | architecture_train | 0.95 | [ask] I am 31 and looking seriously into going back to school for architecture. Is this a bad idea or totally feasible at my age? Looking for helpful advice or stories! It is something I have always been interested in and decided to take a real swing at it. I already have a 4 year degree in a totally different major(political science international development). Should I try to get an internship right away since I have 8ish years of experience in office settings? I would also like to concentrate on environmental architecture(sustainability and buildings), if that is possible. Thanks for your help! | e4perbq | e4p2kj6 | 1,535,046,462 | 1,535,036,236 | 5 | 2 | Don’t do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! At least not without first getting a thorough idea of what the actual work is going to be like. IMO it's not nearly as romantic nor creative as many are lead to believe. I was in my 30’s when I started my M.Arch (BA in another discipline) from a top school. The pedagogy does a disservice in their misrepresentation or lack of representation of the workplace. Unless you’re extremely good \**and*\* lucky (nepotism and false hierarchy abounds) you will likely be a cog in a machine doing uncreative work, expected to work long hours (easier to do when you’re young, which most of your peers will be) (ridiculous hours are a huge cultural problem perpetuated in schools - after all it’s the architecture buildings on campuses that have the lights on all night) for less pay than the engineers and contractors working on the same job (the pay imbalance is also the profession’s fault - there’s enough competition that someone will inevitably bid lower). Just look at the average starting pay (even with an M.Arch you'll still be bottom of the rung) in your city (available via the AIA) and consider the loans you’ll come out of school with. And then compare to other professions...I went into my grad program thinking that money didn’t matter, because I’d be doing something I love. I was even similarly warned by others who preceded me. I’m just glad that through scholarships and being a TA that my loans were negligible, because the work is definitely not something I love. Don’t get me wrong, I love architecture and design, it’s just that your chances of doing any design in your first 5-10 years is low. You’ve been warned... | This is not unusual at all. Just a point of reference, I attended an ivy league school's graduate program in architecture, and 30 or 31 was perhaps the average age of people in my studio. I knew a guy who was 38 and had worked in Seoul as an accountant for like 12 years before deciding to switch careers. Not that I'm advising drastic choices without serious thought like this, but 31 is by no means too old an age to reenter academia. | 1 | 10,226 | 2.5 | ||
99jz8r | architecture_train | 0.95 | [ask] I am 31 and looking seriously into going back to school for architecture. Is this a bad idea or totally feasible at my age? Looking for helpful advice or stories! It is something I have always been interested in and decided to take a real swing at it. I already have a 4 year degree in a totally different major(political science international development). Should I try to get an internship right away since I have 8ish years of experience in office settings? I would also like to concentrate on environmental architecture(sustainability and buildings), if that is possible. Thanks for your help! | e4p78vh | e4perbq | 1,535,040,296 | 1,535,046,462 | 2 | 5 | I have returned to University aged 35, at the London met, it is a big struggle but I've always wanted a higher education and to try and progress my career. At the London met we have The Sir John Cass School of Art, Architecture and Design, there are not so many mature students but all people there take it seriously. I would say that you can do it, however you have got to be the full package, as in you have got to have a strong portfolio of projects and skills. Of course a work placement is part of the final year and I would say already be at that level before you start it. An Architecture degree although practical has very artistic elements, so again there is a need for you to be well rounded and have plenty of real world knowledge. As an older person you will have a massive advantage because you know about the real world of work and you will be able to put the learning into perspective. | Don’t do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! At least not without first getting a thorough idea of what the actual work is going to be like. IMO it's not nearly as romantic nor creative as many are lead to believe. I was in my 30’s when I started my M.Arch (BA in another discipline) from a top school. The pedagogy does a disservice in their misrepresentation or lack of representation of the workplace. Unless you’re extremely good \**and*\* lucky (nepotism and false hierarchy abounds) you will likely be a cog in a machine doing uncreative work, expected to work long hours (easier to do when you’re young, which most of your peers will be) (ridiculous hours are a huge cultural problem perpetuated in schools - after all it’s the architecture buildings on campuses that have the lights on all night) for less pay than the engineers and contractors working on the same job (the pay imbalance is also the profession’s fault - there’s enough competition that someone will inevitably bid lower). Just look at the average starting pay (even with an M.Arch you'll still be bottom of the rung) in your city (available via the AIA) and consider the loans you’ll come out of school with. And then compare to other professions...I went into my grad program thinking that money didn’t matter, because I’d be doing something I love. I was even similarly warned by others who preceded me. I’m just glad that through scholarships and being a TA that my loans were negligible, because the work is definitely not something I love. Don’t get me wrong, I love architecture and design, it’s just that your chances of doing any design in your first 5-10 years is low. You’ve been warned... | 0 | 6,166 | 2.5 | ||
99jz8r | architecture_train | 0.95 | [ask] I am 31 and looking seriously into going back to school for architecture. Is this a bad idea or totally feasible at my age? Looking for helpful advice or stories! It is something I have always been interested in and decided to take a real swing at it. I already have a 4 year degree in a totally different major(political science international development). Should I try to get an internship right away since I have 8ish years of experience in office settings? I would also like to concentrate on environmental architecture(sustainability and buildings), if that is possible. Thanks for your help! | e4oykll | e4p3h3z | 1,535,032,682 | 1,535,037,009 | 2 | 3 | I'd agree that's it's feasible at any age. I started my B.A. (in political science oddly enough) at 29. My uncle started his B.A. at 42 before going through law school after that. As others have said, make sure it's something about which you're passionate. But then go for it! I'm considering going back for a master's degree in something more like what I do. The PoliSci thing was prep for law school but I decided it wasn't for me. Best of luck! | I went back for a civil engineering degree at 36. It was ridiculously hard but I made it out in one piece. I mean, I had to figure out calculus with a music degree. As long as you are totally committed and see yourself in the industry afterwards you should be ok. By that I mean, don’t just get a degree and then look for a job. Fixate on aspects to distinguish yourself as a serious designer. I wanted in on the sustainability kick, as broad as that sounds. I started volunteering for the solar car team, worked on conferences, started a design team for sustainable housing and competed in international design competitions. Even with all that, the engineering firms were not real interested in interviewing a middle aged guy based on the above ‘resume’. Tl;dr look past the degree and see where you would like to be in industry afterwards and follow a path. | 0 | 4,327 | 1.5 | ||
99jz8r | architecture_train | 0.95 | [ask] I am 31 and looking seriously into going back to school for architecture. Is this a bad idea or totally feasible at my age? Looking for helpful advice or stories! It is something I have always been interested in and decided to take a real swing at it. I already have a 4 year degree in a totally different major(political science international development). Should I try to get an internship right away since I have 8ish years of experience in office settings? I would also like to concentrate on environmental architecture(sustainability and buildings), if that is possible. Thanks for your help! | e4p3h3z | e4p2kj6 | 1,535,037,009 | 1,535,036,236 | 3 | 2 | I went back for a civil engineering degree at 36. It was ridiculously hard but I made it out in one piece. I mean, I had to figure out calculus with a music degree. As long as you are totally committed and see yourself in the industry afterwards you should be ok. By that I mean, don’t just get a degree and then look for a job. Fixate on aspects to distinguish yourself as a serious designer. I wanted in on the sustainability kick, as broad as that sounds. I started volunteering for the solar car team, worked on conferences, started a design team for sustainable housing and competed in international design competitions. Even with all that, the engineering firms were not real interested in interviewing a middle aged guy based on the above ‘resume’. Tl;dr look past the degree and see where you would like to be in industry afterwards and follow a path. | This is not unusual at all. Just a point of reference, I attended an ivy league school's graduate program in architecture, and 30 or 31 was perhaps the average age of people in my studio. I knew a guy who was 38 and had worked in Seoul as an accountant for like 12 years before deciding to switch careers. Not that I'm advising drastic choices without serious thought like this, but 31 is by no means too old an age to reenter academia. | 1 | 773 | 1.5 | ||
os0mys | architecture_train | 0.88 | [Theory] In American 'Shotgun Houses', the rooms are stacked front-to-back, while with cottages in Ireland the rooms were arranged side-to-side pattern. Is there a good reason for this difference, or is it just arbitrary? I'm not an architect, just curious. Thanks in advance for any contributions. | h6lf2yg | h6liu1p | 1,627,312,588 | 1,627,314,241 | 2 | 5 | There are also Dogtrot homes in the American South. These homes have their rooms arranged from side to side with an opening in the middle for a "dog to trot" through. The split does a couple of things, but mainly keeps cooking and living/bedrooms split so that the heat and smell from the kitchen didn't heat up the whole house (hot and humid climate). They usually feature deep overhangs for shade. Are these more similar to the Irish cottages you mentioned? I'll try to come back and post a link to a dog trot. Sry, don't know how to link on mobile, search for Autrey House and you'll find one of the oldest surviving dog trots around! Happy findings. | I'd expect shotgun houses are in warm climates and designed to let the breeze flow through cooling the home while the Irish cottages are designed to keep a cold breeze out of the home | 0 | 1,653 | 2.5 | ||
os0mys | architecture_train | 0.88 | [Theory] In American 'Shotgun Houses', the rooms are stacked front-to-back, while with cottages in Ireland the rooms were arranged side-to-side pattern. Is there a good reason for this difference, or is it just arbitrary? I'm not an architect, just curious. Thanks in advance for any contributions. | h6mcxdo | h6lsmca | 1,627,327,322 | 1,627,318,512 | 2 | 0 | The traditional Irish cottages are built like that so that they can add more rooms on to the gable ends as their family grows. I know this because I'm Irish and I was taught about this in architecture school | East coast row houses, for the poor, were as narrow as 10 feet. The smallest could be 1 room deep and 2 or 3 stories high. If there was a walkout basement the kitchen was in the basement. More houses on the street meant more $ for the developer & more tax revenue, as well as more voters for Tamney Hall. Wide houses = less $ for the developer, ans had to be made up other ways. When one goes to American rural areas, single story houses, with their widest length parallel to the road. Yes 2 story houses exist in the rural ares, but they tend to be 19th century and that was due to the primitive heating systems which relied on warm air rising. | 1 | 8,810 | 2,000 | ||
os0mys | architecture_train | 0.88 | [Theory] In American 'Shotgun Houses', the rooms are stacked front-to-back, while with cottages in Ireland the rooms were arranged side-to-side pattern. Is there a good reason for this difference, or is it just arbitrary? I'm not an architect, just curious. Thanks in advance for any contributions. | h6mcxdo | h6m7rcl | 1,627,327,322 | 1,627,325,053 | 2 | 0 | The traditional Irish cottages are built like that so that they can add more rooms on to the gable ends as their family grows. I know this because I'm Irish and I was taught about this in architecture school | I imagine it has to do with pre-existing street layout and access. Assuming the blocks are roughly square in shape, more houses that are thinner than they are wide can fit on a street than can houses that are wider than they are thin. | 1 | 2,269 | 2,000 | ||
os0mys | architecture_train | 0.88 | [Theory] In American 'Shotgun Houses', the rooms are stacked front-to-back, while with cottages in Ireland the rooms were arranged side-to-side pattern. Is there a good reason for this difference, or is it just arbitrary? I'm not an architect, just curious. Thanks in advance for any contributions. | h6lsmca | h6ppwpe | 1,627,318,512 | 1,627,398,205 | 0 | 1 | East coast row houses, for the poor, were as narrow as 10 feet. The smallest could be 1 room deep and 2 or 3 stories high. If there was a walkout basement the kitchen was in the basement. More houses on the street meant more $ for the developer & more tax revenue, as well as more voters for Tamney Hall. Wide houses = less $ for the developer, ans had to be made up other ways. When one goes to American rural areas, single story houses, with their widest length parallel to the road. Yes 2 story houses exist in the rural ares, but they tend to be 19th century and that was due to the primitive heating systems which relied on warm air rising. | Every shotgun house I've seen in America exists in an urban setting. One with blocks and a limited amount of space. You aren't getting many houses that are wider than they are long in a city block. Not happening. Shotgun houses are space efficient. Anyone who argues with this by pointing out just rotating the house needs to remember the house still needs a door. Look at Roman city layouts, feudal Japanese city layouts, modern American City layouts and London layouts, look at the most dense areas and look at the housing. Narrow houses that go back. Cities exist when a bunch of people live in a limited amount of space. Narrow houses are a direct response to this. | 0 | 79,693 | 1,000 | ||
os0mys | architecture_train | 0.88 | [Theory] In American 'Shotgun Houses', the rooms are stacked front-to-back, while with cottages in Ireland the rooms were arranged side-to-side pattern. Is there a good reason for this difference, or is it just arbitrary? I'm not an architect, just curious. Thanks in advance for any contributions. | h6m7rcl | h6ppwpe | 1,627,325,053 | 1,627,398,205 | 0 | 1 | I imagine it has to do with pre-existing street layout and access. Assuming the blocks are roughly square in shape, more houses that are thinner than they are wide can fit on a street than can houses that are wider than they are thin. | Every shotgun house I've seen in America exists in an urban setting. One with blocks and a limited amount of space. You aren't getting many houses that are wider than they are long in a city block. Not happening. Shotgun houses are space efficient. Anyone who argues with this by pointing out just rotating the house needs to remember the house still needs a door. Look at Roman city layouts, feudal Japanese city layouts, modern American City layouts and London layouts, look at the most dense areas and look at the housing. Narrow houses that go back. Cities exist when a bunch of people live in a limited amount of space. Narrow houses are a direct response to this. | 0 | 73,152 | 1,000 | ||
veatgr | architecture_train | 1 | Who was the architect or city planner? Hey Guys, i'm looking for an architect or city planner who let people walk their own paths in the city (i think it was paris) when it was winter, so they couldnt see the streets underneath the snow. After that he planned a new street system based of the routes that were created by the people. (maybe it was just a experiment and wasnt implemented) Sorry for the lack of information but i cant remember anymore. And sorry for my english Edit: I thought it was Camillo Sitte but i couldnt find any information. | icporh8 | icrghf4 | 1,655,476,144 | 1,655,501,421 | 2 | 3 | It's not the same as your example, but it did remind me of Patrick Geddes and his civic survey. It's in a similar vein so maybe it can lead to where you're searching. | Could it be Jan Gehl? remember he spoke about desire lines in his book ‘Life Between Buildings’ but not sure if he was talking about his own project or someone else’s. | 0 | 25,277 | 1.5 |
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