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sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy2guij | hy2poq7 | 1,645,595,578 | 1,645,601,807 | 16 | 89 | Go tech. Dont look back. | Damn I hate seeing all these comments as a freshman in architecture 😂 | 0 | 6,229 | 5.5625 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy2iatv | hy2poq7 | 1,645,596,499 | 1,645,601,807 | 16 | 89 | Yep. Switching end of this week with a new role next week. Tired of having to work my ass off for no money. Tired of the industry standards and lack of creativity and tired of the documentation softwares. Also no architecture job is safe. They firing people left and right due to COVID or financial reasons. | Damn I hate seeing all these comments as a freshman in architecture 😂 | 0 | 5,308 | 5.5625 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy2cn4k | hy2poq7 | 1,645,593,096 | 1,645,601,807 | 12 | 89 | If I can ask, do you mostly work on design-build projects? I’ve found these to stress me out much more than design-bid-build. | Damn I hate seeing all these comments as a freshman in architecture 😂 | 0 | 8,711 | 7.416667 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy2cmaj | hy2poq7 | 1,645,593,083 | 1,645,601,807 | 8 | 89 | Materials science | Damn I hate seeing all these comments as a freshman in architecture 😂 | 0 | 8,724 | 11.125 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy2elu3 | hy2lqte | 1,645,594,217 | 1,645,598,835 | 20 | 53 | Agree on "overworked, underpaid and under appreciated" , also in my country big unemployement Last month where 900 candidates for one vacancy job of US$800 per month, work in the state. Average are 300 architects graduating every year so that gives a picture. Really thinking going to software or emigrate, that are the options righ now | Yes, quit after 15ys of practicing, moved to Thailand 4years ago farming vegetables for the local. Never been happier.🙂 | 0 | 4,618 | 2.65 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy2guij | hy2lqte | 1,645,595,578 | 1,645,598,835 | 16 | 53 | Go tech. Dont look back. | Yes, quit after 15ys of practicing, moved to Thailand 4years ago farming vegetables for the local. Never been happier.🙂 | 0 | 3,257 | 3.3125 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy2iatv | hy2lqte | 1,645,596,499 | 1,645,598,835 | 16 | 53 | Yep. Switching end of this week with a new role next week. Tired of having to work my ass off for no money. Tired of the industry standards and lack of creativity and tired of the documentation softwares. Also no architecture job is safe. They firing people left and right due to COVID or financial reasons. | Yes, quit after 15ys of practicing, moved to Thailand 4years ago farming vegetables for the local. Never been happier.🙂 | 0 | 2,336 | 3.3125 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy2cn4k | hy2lqte | 1,645,593,096 | 1,645,598,835 | 12 | 53 | If I can ask, do you mostly work on design-build projects? I’ve found these to stress me out much more than design-bid-build. | Yes, quit after 15ys of practicing, moved to Thailand 4years ago farming vegetables for the local. Never been happier.🙂 | 0 | 5,739 | 4.416667 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy2cmaj | hy2lqte | 1,645,593,083 | 1,645,598,835 | 8 | 53 | Materials science | Yes, quit after 15ys of practicing, moved to Thailand 4years ago farming vegetables for the local. Never been happier.🙂 | 0 | 5,752 | 6.625 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy2cn4k | hy2elu3 | 1,645,593,096 | 1,645,594,217 | 12 | 20 | If I can ask, do you mostly work on design-build projects? I’ve found these to stress me out much more than design-bid-build. | Agree on "overworked, underpaid and under appreciated" , also in my country big unemployement Last month where 900 candidates for one vacancy job of US$800 per month, work in the state. Average are 300 architects graduating every year so that gives a picture. Really thinking going to software or emigrate, that are the options righ now | 0 | 1,121 | 1.666667 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy2cmaj | hy2elu3 | 1,645,593,083 | 1,645,594,217 | 8 | 20 | Materials science | Agree on "overworked, underpaid and under appreciated" , also in my country big unemployement Last month where 900 candidates for one vacancy job of US$800 per month, work in the state. Average are 300 architects graduating every year so that gives a picture. Really thinking going to software or emigrate, that are the options righ now | 0 | 1,134 | 2.5 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy2cn4k | hy2guij | 1,645,593,096 | 1,645,595,578 | 12 | 16 | If I can ask, do you mostly work on design-build projects? I’ve found these to stress me out much more than design-bid-build. | Go tech. Dont look back. | 0 | 2,482 | 1.333333 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy2guij | hy2cmaj | 1,645,595,578 | 1,645,593,083 | 16 | 8 | Go tech. Dont look back. | Materials science | 1 | 2,495 | 2 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy2cn4k | hy2iatv | 1,645,593,096 | 1,645,596,499 | 12 | 16 | If I can ask, do you mostly work on design-build projects? I’ve found these to stress me out much more than design-bid-build. | Yep. Switching end of this week with a new role next week. Tired of having to work my ass off for no money. Tired of the industry standards and lack of creativity and tired of the documentation softwares. Also no architecture job is safe. They firing people left and right due to COVID or financial reasons. | 0 | 3,403 | 1.333333 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy2cmaj | hy2iatv | 1,645,593,083 | 1,645,596,499 | 8 | 16 | Materials science | Yep. Switching end of this week with a new role next week. Tired of having to work my ass off for no money. Tired of the industry standards and lack of creativity and tired of the documentation softwares. Also no architecture job is safe. They firing people left and right due to COVID or financial reasons. | 0 | 3,416 | 2 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy2cn4k | hy2ryyj | 1,645,593,096 | 1,645,603,591 | 12 | 13 | If I can ask, do you mostly work on design-build projects? I’ve found these to stress me out much more than design-bid-build. | I’m finishing in two weeks. Moving into construction project management. More money, less liability. | 0 | 10,495 | 1.083333 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy2cn4k | hy37in5 | 1,645,593,096 | 1,645,616,317 | 12 | 14 | If I can ask, do you mostly work on design-build projects? I’ve found these to stress me out much more than design-bid-build. | I do. I'm a solo practicioner with my own clients and also work as a free lance doing drawings and permits for a small building company. Work is fun but pay is not enough. I'm literraly enslaved from 7AM to 9PM, over weekends. Haven't had vacation in the past 800 days and there is a labour and materials shortage which has all my clients acting like its my fault their houses cost x2.5 what they did pre pandemic. Last week I had to assist on a concrete foundation because half the crew did not arrive. Shoveled concrete 6 hours a day for three days and had to recap on all lost time. After that I wished to fuck off to the mountains to live like a beast and get eaten by wild cats. I'm much calmer now but damn, I should have studied engineering. | 0 | 23,221 | 1.166667 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy2cn4k | hy2cmaj | 1,645,593,096 | 1,645,593,083 | 12 | 8 | If I can ask, do you mostly work on design-build projects? I’ve found these to stress me out much more than design-bid-build. | Materials science | 1 | 13 | 1.5 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy37in5 | hy2ryyj | 1,645,616,317 | 1,645,603,591 | 14 | 13 | I do. I'm a solo practicioner with my own clients and also work as a free lance doing drawings and permits for a small building company. Work is fun but pay is not enough. I'm literraly enslaved from 7AM to 9PM, over weekends. Haven't had vacation in the past 800 days and there is a labour and materials shortage which has all my clients acting like its my fault their houses cost x2.5 what they did pre pandemic. Last week I had to assist on a concrete foundation because half the crew did not arrive. Shoveled concrete 6 hours a day for three days and had to recap on all lost time. After that I wished to fuck off to the mountains to live like a beast and get eaten by wild cats. I'm much calmer now but damn, I should have studied engineering. | I’m finishing in two weeks. Moving into construction project management. More money, less liability. | 1 | 12,726 | 1.076923 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy2ryyj | hy2cmaj | 1,645,603,591 | 1,645,593,083 | 13 | 8 | I’m finishing in two weeks. Moving into construction project management. More money, less liability. | Materials science | 1 | 10,508 | 1.625 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy2ryyj | hy2rk1f | 1,645,603,591 | 1,645,603,269 | 13 | 4 | I’m finishing in two weeks. Moving into construction project management. More money, less liability. | Come to UX/Product Design! | 1 | 322 | 3.25 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy37in5 | hy2zxqa | 1,645,616,317 | 1,645,610,201 | 14 | 12 | I do. I'm a solo practicioner with my own clients and also work as a free lance doing drawings and permits for a small building company. Work is fun but pay is not enough. I'm literraly enslaved from 7AM to 9PM, over weekends. Haven't had vacation in the past 800 days and there is a labour and materials shortage which has all my clients acting like its my fault their houses cost x2.5 what they did pre pandemic. Last week I had to assist on a concrete foundation because half the crew did not arrive. Shoveled concrete 6 hours a day for three days and had to recap on all lost time. After that I wished to fuck off to the mountains to live like a beast and get eaten by wild cats. I'm much calmer now but damn, I should have studied engineering. | Working as a production designer. The work hours are more strenuous, but I'm making literally 4 times what i made as an architect at the same starting position and get to travel often. I still design interiors and basic structures on the side. but you're right about the burn out you experience as an architect. It is one of the most noble professions, but you have to be well connected, wealthy or a passionate saint of a human being to continue on. | 1 | 6,116 | 1.166667 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy37in5 | hy2cmaj | 1,645,616,317 | 1,645,593,083 | 14 | 8 | I do. I'm a solo practicioner with my own clients and also work as a free lance doing drawings and permits for a small building company. Work is fun but pay is not enough. I'm literraly enslaved from 7AM to 9PM, over weekends. Haven't had vacation in the past 800 days and there is a labour and materials shortage which has all my clients acting like its my fault their houses cost x2.5 what they did pre pandemic. Last week I had to assist on a concrete foundation because half the crew did not arrive. Shoveled concrete 6 hours a day for three days and had to recap on all lost time. After that I wished to fuck off to the mountains to live like a beast and get eaten by wild cats. I'm much calmer now but damn, I should have studied engineering. | Materials science | 1 | 23,234 | 1.75 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy367so | hy37in5 | 1,645,615,339 | 1,645,616,317 | 7 | 14 | Italian here, yes and I'm looking for a place in a forniture shop, regular pay, know amount of hour per week, holidays.. Being a firm is something too much, kinda you have to devote your entire life with little to no work life balance, just is not the life I want | I do. I'm a solo practicioner with my own clients and also work as a free lance doing drawings and permits for a small building company. Work is fun but pay is not enough. I'm literraly enslaved from 7AM to 9PM, over weekends. Haven't had vacation in the past 800 days and there is a labour and materials shortage which has all my clients acting like its my fault their houses cost x2.5 what they did pre pandemic. Last week I had to assist on a concrete foundation because half the crew did not arrive. Shoveled concrete 6 hours a day for three days and had to recap on all lost time. After that I wished to fuck off to the mountains to live like a beast and get eaten by wild cats. I'm much calmer now but damn, I should have studied engineering. | 0 | 978 | 2 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy2rk1f | hy37in5 | 1,645,603,269 | 1,645,616,317 | 4 | 14 | Come to UX/Product Design! | I do. I'm a solo practicioner with my own clients and also work as a free lance doing drawings and permits for a small building company. Work is fun but pay is not enough. I'm literraly enslaved from 7AM to 9PM, over weekends. Haven't had vacation in the past 800 days and there is a labour and materials shortage which has all my clients acting like its my fault their houses cost x2.5 what they did pre pandemic. Last week I had to assist on a concrete foundation because half the crew did not arrive. Shoveled concrete 6 hours a day for three days and had to recap on all lost time. After that I wished to fuck off to the mountains to live like a beast and get eaten by wild cats. I'm much calmer now but damn, I should have studied engineering. | 0 | 13,048 | 3.5 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy34jea | hy37in5 | 1,645,614,032 | 1,645,616,317 | 3 | 14 | Gonna graduate in some months. Thinking about switching to Production Design seeing the pay vs work situation in India. Any tips? | I do. I'm a solo practicioner with my own clients and also work as a free lance doing drawings and permits for a small building company. Work is fun but pay is not enough. I'm literraly enslaved from 7AM to 9PM, over weekends. Haven't had vacation in the past 800 days and there is a labour and materials shortage which has all my clients acting like its my fault their houses cost x2.5 what they did pre pandemic. Last week I had to assist on a concrete foundation because half the crew did not arrive. Shoveled concrete 6 hours a day for three days and had to recap on all lost time. After that I wished to fuck off to the mountains to live like a beast and get eaten by wild cats. I'm much calmer now but damn, I should have studied engineering. | 0 | 2,285 | 4.666667 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy2cmaj | hy2zxqa | 1,645,593,083 | 1,645,610,201 | 8 | 12 | Materials science | Working as a production designer. The work hours are more strenuous, but I'm making literally 4 times what i made as an architect at the same starting position and get to travel often. I still design interiors and basic structures on the side. but you're right about the burn out you experience as an architect. It is one of the most noble professions, but you have to be well connected, wealthy or a passionate saint of a human being to continue on. | 0 | 17,118 | 1.5 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy2zxqa | hy2rk1f | 1,645,610,201 | 1,645,603,269 | 12 | 4 | Working as a production designer. The work hours are more strenuous, but I'm making literally 4 times what i made as an architect at the same starting position and get to travel often. I still design interiors and basic structures on the side. but you're right about the burn out you experience as an architect. It is one of the most noble professions, but you have to be well connected, wealthy or a passionate saint of a human being to continue on. | Come to UX/Product Design! | 1 | 6,932 | 3 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy367so | hy2rk1f | 1,645,615,339 | 1,645,603,269 | 7 | 4 | Italian here, yes and I'm looking for a place in a forniture shop, regular pay, know amount of hour per week, holidays.. Being a firm is something too much, kinda you have to devote your entire life with little to no work life balance, just is not the life I want | Come to UX/Product Design! | 1 | 12,070 | 1.75 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy34jea | hy367so | 1,645,614,032 | 1,645,615,339 | 3 | 7 | Gonna graduate in some months. Thinking about switching to Production Design seeing the pay vs work situation in India. Any tips? | Italian here, yes and I'm looking for a place in a forniture shop, regular pay, know amount of hour per week, holidays.. Being a firm is something too much, kinda you have to devote your entire life with little to no work life balance, just is not the life I want | 0 | 1,307 | 2.333333 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy4firy | hy4xxio | 1,645,636,825 | 1,645,643,907 | 5 | 6 | no. 1 - Architects need to charge higher rates; stop undercutting each other. Even when others are quoting a rate that is less than 2/3rds of what you are asking, do not budge. For comparison (staff hour billing rate to clients): Lawyers $300/hr; Structural Engineer $200/hr; Architect typically $90/hr. I quote in services proposals $150 per staff hour and I am not always rejected. I see article after article written for consumers stating that a typical cost of architectural services is between $90 and $110 an hour. When looking at these numbers, keep in mind that this is not what is going into the pockets of the person doing the work. There are high costs of running a practice that don't come to mind for a lot of people. For those who are practicing on the side or on your own, keep this in mind. Do not charge $65 an hour for what you're doing. It might sound like a lot, but it is a mockery of our profession. no. 2 - Project managers need to watch the time that goes into the development and production for a project. Let your supervisor know when you get to 38 hours for the week and have a good summary of what you have been doing in the time that has been devoted to the project. Talk to the people in charge. Communicate. Don't worry about being chastised for being slow, etc. If they give you that shit, fuck'em If/when I start to grow my practice with employees, the ideal case would be to put a cap on staff working beyond 40 hours per week (I have no doubt that other architects here would give a sarcastic "good luck with that"). holy shit this is an unhinged rant... maybe I'll copy/paste this to a post in r/architects | I feel obligated to chime in here and counter some of the negativity. I'm a licensed architect in Los Angeles. I got my Masters in 2006, worked at a big firm for a year, then a small firm for a couple years, then was forced to start my own firm in 2009 when the economy collapsed. Times have been tough to be sure, especially at the beginning. I made barely enough to cover my loans for the first few years and lived very minimally. It sucked. I under-billed in order to get clients and gave discounts, thinking it would be appreciated (it never is, just don't do it). I diversified into set design, creating 3d models for entertainment industry and that really helped pay the bills! Tough to get into though. And after giving years of my life and barely profiting to design a couple houses, only to watch a realtor come in and do basically nothing and make more than I just did... I got my real estate license too. Pay is way better for the amount of work that goes in. The liability is less, the time frames are much shorter, you get paid from escrow rather than a client having to write a check... So many positives. Finally, I think I'm at a pretty great place. I only take the architecture jobs that I think can be masterpieces. I only work with great clients that respect what I bring to the table. I reject way more projects than I take on. I was charging $150/hr but upped it to $175/hr and no one blinked. I have most of my work automated through remote employees and most of my work as an architect is redlining pdfs, client and contractor contact, and site visits at this point. I golf every Friday. I travel whenever I want. I make about $200k (50/40/10 arch/real estate/set design). It took me a while to figure out how to bill properly, wish they taught this more in school. I know I'm lucky. And maybe I would have given a different answer at many points between 2009-2018, but today, I feel like I've got a good thing going. It's satisfying to watch my projects go up, I get sole credit, I make enough to be comfortable, and put a little away, etc. I have other friends from architecture school in the same position that have followed similar diversified paths. I have some friends from architecture school that went to work for a place like Gensler, put in their time, and are making serious money and have a pension set up and everything. And, probably most of my friends have moved into other fields, out of frustration or financial necessity. Anyway, there is a defeatist mentality that sometimes creeps into this subreddit and I wanted to throw my experiences in the ring so that it doesn't feel all doom and gloom. It will invariably be tough at times but it can work out. Yes... diversify your offerings. Be prepared for clients not to pay you in December while they save for Xmas gifts if you start your own firm. Don't do any work for free or before signing a contract. Know your worth. Learn how to justify your worth to clients. Don't work with a client that gives you a bad feeling or doesn't appreciate the architect's role in the process. And if you go to work for a firm, set your boundaries when you are hired! Say you have another obligation and will be leaving at 6pm or can't work on weekends, or whatever. So many architects think that bending over backward for clients and employers gains them something when in reality people respect you much more when you respect yourself. Good luck to all out there. It can be a tough slog, but it can also work out quite well. | 0 | 7,082 | 1.2 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy4xxio | hy2rk1f | 1,645,643,907 | 1,645,603,269 | 6 | 4 | I feel obligated to chime in here and counter some of the negativity. I'm a licensed architect in Los Angeles. I got my Masters in 2006, worked at a big firm for a year, then a small firm for a couple years, then was forced to start my own firm in 2009 when the economy collapsed. Times have been tough to be sure, especially at the beginning. I made barely enough to cover my loans for the first few years and lived very minimally. It sucked. I under-billed in order to get clients and gave discounts, thinking it would be appreciated (it never is, just don't do it). I diversified into set design, creating 3d models for entertainment industry and that really helped pay the bills! Tough to get into though. And after giving years of my life and barely profiting to design a couple houses, only to watch a realtor come in and do basically nothing and make more than I just did... I got my real estate license too. Pay is way better for the amount of work that goes in. The liability is less, the time frames are much shorter, you get paid from escrow rather than a client having to write a check... So many positives. Finally, I think I'm at a pretty great place. I only take the architecture jobs that I think can be masterpieces. I only work with great clients that respect what I bring to the table. I reject way more projects than I take on. I was charging $150/hr but upped it to $175/hr and no one blinked. I have most of my work automated through remote employees and most of my work as an architect is redlining pdfs, client and contractor contact, and site visits at this point. I golf every Friday. I travel whenever I want. I make about $200k (50/40/10 arch/real estate/set design). It took me a while to figure out how to bill properly, wish they taught this more in school. I know I'm lucky. And maybe I would have given a different answer at many points between 2009-2018, but today, I feel like I've got a good thing going. It's satisfying to watch my projects go up, I get sole credit, I make enough to be comfortable, and put a little away, etc. I have other friends from architecture school in the same position that have followed similar diversified paths. I have some friends from architecture school that went to work for a place like Gensler, put in their time, and are making serious money and have a pension set up and everything. And, probably most of my friends have moved into other fields, out of frustration or financial necessity. Anyway, there is a defeatist mentality that sometimes creeps into this subreddit and I wanted to throw my experiences in the ring so that it doesn't feel all doom and gloom. It will invariably be tough at times but it can work out. Yes... diversify your offerings. Be prepared for clients not to pay you in December while they save for Xmas gifts if you start your own firm. Don't do any work for free or before signing a contract. Know your worth. Learn how to justify your worth to clients. Don't work with a client that gives you a bad feeling or doesn't appreciate the architect's role in the process. And if you go to work for a firm, set your boundaries when you are hired! Say you have another obligation and will be leaving at 6pm or can't work on weekends, or whatever. So many architects think that bending over backward for clients and employers gains them something when in reality people respect you much more when you respect yourself. Good luck to all out there. It can be a tough slog, but it can also work out quite well. | Come to UX/Product Design! | 1 | 40,638 | 1.5 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy4xxio | hy3n9ao | 1,645,643,907 | 1,645,625,333 | 6 | 3 | I feel obligated to chime in here and counter some of the negativity. I'm a licensed architect in Los Angeles. I got my Masters in 2006, worked at a big firm for a year, then a small firm for a couple years, then was forced to start my own firm in 2009 when the economy collapsed. Times have been tough to be sure, especially at the beginning. I made barely enough to cover my loans for the first few years and lived very minimally. It sucked. I under-billed in order to get clients and gave discounts, thinking it would be appreciated (it never is, just don't do it). I diversified into set design, creating 3d models for entertainment industry and that really helped pay the bills! Tough to get into though. And after giving years of my life and barely profiting to design a couple houses, only to watch a realtor come in and do basically nothing and make more than I just did... I got my real estate license too. Pay is way better for the amount of work that goes in. The liability is less, the time frames are much shorter, you get paid from escrow rather than a client having to write a check... So many positives. Finally, I think I'm at a pretty great place. I only take the architecture jobs that I think can be masterpieces. I only work with great clients that respect what I bring to the table. I reject way more projects than I take on. I was charging $150/hr but upped it to $175/hr and no one blinked. I have most of my work automated through remote employees and most of my work as an architect is redlining pdfs, client and contractor contact, and site visits at this point. I golf every Friday. I travel whenever I want. I make about $200k (50/40/10 arch/real estate/set design). It took me a while to figure out how to bill properly, wish they taught this more in school. I know I'm lucky. And maybe I would have given a different answer at many points between 2009-2018, but today, I feel like I've got a good thing going. It's satisfying to watch my projects go up, I get sole credit, I make enough to be comfortable, and put a little away, etc. I have other friends from architecture school in the same position that have followed similar diversified paths. I have some friends from architecture school that went to work for a place like Gensler, put in their time, and are making serious money and have a pension set up and everything. And, probably most of my friends have moved into other fields, out of frustration or financial necessity. Anyway, there is a defeatist mentality that sometimes creeps into this subreddit and I wanted to throw my experiences in the ring so that it doesn't feel all doom and gloom. It will invariably be tough at times but it can work out. Yes... diversify your offerings. Be prepared for clients not to pay you in December while they save for Xmas gifts if you start your own firm. Don't do any work for free or before signing a contract. Know your worth. Learn how to justify your worth to clients. Don't work with a client that gives you a bad feeling or doesn't appreciate the architect's role in the process. And if you go to work for a firm, set your boundaries when you are hired! Say you have another obligation and will be leaving at 6pm or can't work on weekends, or whatever. So many architects think that bending over backward for clients and employers gains them something when in reality people respect you much more when you respect yourself. Good luck to all out there. It can be a tough slog, but it can also work out quite well. | I'm just gonna say that my boss it's a very successful and experimented architect with more than 17 years of experience at the head of one cell of the biggest architecture company of my country and still he just wants to buy some terrain at any village far from the capital and do anything aside from architecture. | 1 | 18,574 | 2 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy3xy25 | hy4xxio | 1,645,629,972 | 1,645,643,907 | 3 | 6 | I’ve been in the profession about 8 years now and I’m beyond burnt out. The profession is very toxic | I feel obligated to chime in here and counter some of the negativity. I'm a licensed architect in Los Angeles. I got my Masters in 2006, worked at a big firm for a year, then a small firm for a couple years, then was forced to start my own firm in 2009 when the economy collapsed. Times have been tough to be sure, especially at the beginning. I made barely enough to cover my loans for the first few years and lived very minimally. It sucked. I under-billed in order to get clients and gave discounts, thinking it would be appreciated (it never is, just don't do it). I diversified into set design, creating 3d models for entertainment industry and that really helped pay the bills! Tough to get into though. And after giving years of my life and barely profiting to design a couple houses, only to watch a realtor come in and do basically nothing and make more than I just did... I got my real estate license too. Pay is way better for the amount of work that goes in. The liability is less, the time frames are much shorter, you get paid from escrow rather than a client having to write a check... So many positives. Finally, I think I'm at a pretty great place. I only take the architecture jobs that I think can be masterpieces. I only work with great clients that respect what I bring to the table. I reject way more projects than I take on. I was charging $150/hr but upped it to $175/hr and no one blinked. I have most of my work automated through remote employees and most of my work as an architect is redlining pdfs, client and contractor contact, and site visits at this point. I golf every Friday. I travel whenever I want. I make about $200k (50/40/10 arch/real estate/set design). It took me a while to figure out how to bill properly, wish they taught this more in school. I know I'm lucky. And maybe I would have given a different answer at many points between 2009-2018, but today, I feel like I've got a good thing going. It's satisfying to watch my projects go up, I get sole credit, I make enough to be comfortable, and put a little away, etc. I have other friends from architecture school in the same position that have followed similar diversified paths. I have some friends from architecture school that went to work for a place like Gensler, put in their time, and are making serious money and have a pension set up and everything. And, probably most of my friends have moved into other fields, out of frustration or financial necessity. Anyway, there is a defeatist mentality that sometimes creeps into this subreddit and I wanted to throw my experiences in the ring so that it doesn't feel all doom and gloom. It will invariably be tough at times but it can work out. Yes... diversify your offerings. Be prepared for clients not to pay you in December while they save for Xmas gifts if you start your own firm. Don't do any work for free or before signing a contract. Know your worth. Learn how to justify your worth to clients. Don't work with a client that gives you a bad feeling or doesn't appreciate the architect's role in the process. And if you go to work for a firm, set your boundaries when you are hired! Say you have another obligation and will be leaving at 6pm or can't work on weekends, or whatever. So many architects think that bending over backward for clients and employers gains them something when in reality people respect you much more when you respect yourself. Good luck to all out there. It can be a tough slog, but it can also work out quite well. | 0 | 13,935 | 2 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy34jea | hy4xxio | 1,645,614,032 | 1,645,643,907 | 3 | 6 | Gonna graduate in some months. Thinking about switching to Production Design seeing the pay vs work situation in India. Any tips? | I feel obligated to chime in here and counter some of the negativity. I'm a licensed architect in Los Angeles. I got my Masters in 2006, worked at a big firm for a year, then a small firm for a couple years, then was forced to start my own firm in 2009 when the economy collapsed. Times have been tough to be sure, especially at the beginning. I made barely enough to cover my loans for the first few years and lived very minimally. It sucked. I under-billed in order to get clients and gave discounts, thinking it would be appreciated (it never is, just don't do it). I diversified into set design, creating 3d models for entertainment industry and that really helped pay the bills! Tough to get into though. And after giving years of my life and barely profiting to design a couple houses, only to watch a realtor come in and do basically nothing and make more than I just did... I got my real estate license too. Pay is way better for the amount of work that goes in. The liability is less, the time frames are much shorter, you get paid from escrow rather than a client having to write a check... So many positives. Finally, I think I'm at a pretty great place. I only take the architecture jobs that I think can be masterpieces. I only work with great clients that respect what I bring to the table. I reject way more projects than I take on. I was charging $150/hr but upped it to $175/hr and no one blinked. I have most of my work automated through remote employees and most of my work as an architect is redlining pdfs, client and contractor contact, and site visits at this point. I golf every Friday. I travel whenever I want. I make about $200k (50/40/10 arch/real estate/set design). It took me a while to figure out how to bill properly, wish they taught this more in school. I know I'm lucky. And maybe I would have given a different answer at many points between 2009-2018, but today, I feel like I've got a good thing going. It's satisfying to watch my projects go up, I get sole credit, I make enough to be comfortable, and put a little away, etc. I have other friends from architecture school in the same position that have followed similar diversified paths. I have some friends from architecture school that went to work for a place like Gensler, put in their time, and are making serious money and have a pension set up and everything. And, probably most of my friends have moved into other fields, out of frustration or financial necessity. Anyway, there is a defeatist mentality that sometimes creeps into this subreddit and I wanted to throw my experiences in the ring so that it doesn't feel all doom and gloom. It will invariably be tough at times but it can work out. Yes... diversify your offerings. Be prepared for clients not to pay you in December while they save for Xmas gifts if you start your own firm. Don't do any work for free or before signing a contract. Know your worth. Learn how to justify your worth to clients. Don't work with a client that gives you a bad feeling or doesn't appreciate the architect's role in the process. And if you go to work for a firm, set your boundaries when you are hired! Say you have another obligation and will be leaving at 6pm or can't work on weekends, or whatever. So many architects think that bending over backward for clients and employers gains them something when in reality people respect you much more when you respect yourself. Good luck to all out there. It can be a tough slog, but it can also work out quite well. | 0 | 29,875 | 2 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy4xxio | hy3cfis | 1,645,643,907 | 1,645,619,622 | 6 | 3 | I feel obligated to chime in here and counter some of the negativity. I'm a licensed architect in Los Angeles. I got my Masters in 2006, worked at a big firm for a year, then a small firm for a couple years, then was forced to start my own firm in 2009 when the economy collapsed. Times have been tough to be sure, especially at the beginning. I made barely enough to cover my loans for the first few years and lived very minimally. It sucked. I under-billed in order to get clients and gave discounts, thinking it would be appreciated (it never is, just don't do it). I diversified into set design, creating 3d models for entertainment industry and that really helped pay the bills! Tough to get into though. And after giving years of my life and barely profiting to design a couple houses, only to watch a realtor come in and do basically nothing and make more than I just did... I got my real estate license too. Pay is way better for the amount of work that goes in. The liability is less, the time frames are much shorter, you get paid from escrow rather than a client having to write a check... So many positives. Finally, I think I'm at a pretty great place. I only take the architecture jobs that I think can be masterpieces. I only work with great clients that respect what I bring to the table. I reject way more projects than I take on. I was charging $150/hr but upped it to $175/hr and no one blinked. I have most of my work automated through remote employees and most of my work as an architect is redlining pdfs, client and contractor contact, and site visits at this point. I golf every Friday. I travel whenever I want. I make about $200k (50/40/10 arch/real estate/set design). It took me a while to figure out how to bill properly, wish they taught this more in school. I know I'm lucky. And maybe I would have given a different answer at many points between 2009-2018, but today, I feel like I've got a good thing going. It's satisfying to watch my projects go up, I get sole credit, I make enough to be comfortable, and put a little away, etc. I have other friends from architecture school in the same position that have followed similar diversified paths. I have some friends from architecture school that went to work for a place like Gensler, put in their time, and are making serious money and have a pension set up and everything. And, probably most of my friends have moved into other fields, out of frustration or financial necessity. Anyway, there is a defeatist mentality that sometimes creeps into this subreddit and I wanted to throw my experiences in the ring so that it doesn't feel all doom and gloom. It will invariably be tough at times but it can work out. Yes... diversify your offerings. Be prepared for clients not to pay you in December while they save for Xmas gifts if you start your own firm. Don't do any work for free or before signing a contract. Know your worth. Learn how to justify your worth to clients. Don't work with a client that gives you a bad feeling or doesn't appreciate the architect's role in the process. And if you go to work for a firm, set your boundaries when you are hired! Say you have another obligation and will be leaving at 6pm or can't work on weekends, or whatever. So many architects think that bending over backward for clients and employers gains them something when in reality people respect you much more when you respect yourself. Good luck to all out there. It can be a tough slog, but it can also work out quite well. | I was in private practice for 12 yrs or so then got into govt side of things. Not as stressful bc there isn't the pressure on the company to be profitable. I'm now in a construction manager position and I like it more than design (really glorified draftsman before) bc it's more overseeing the construction and the architect skillset is perfect for that job. I will say it's more challenging than my other positions | 1 | 24,285 | 2 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy3cfmk | hy4xxio | 1,645,619,623 | 1,645,643,907 | 3 | 6 | I switched to set design, its really fun. long hours but you get paid decent overtime. no free work! have been doing it about 3 years, i was the set designer for MAID on netflix, not actually any big sets in that one but it was a lot of alterations to existing locations which all require concept/modeling/construction drawings. I work based out of vancouver where theres a shortage of set designers, definitely don’t regret the switch! | I feel obligated to chime in here and counter some of the negativity. I'm a licensed architect in Los Angeles. I got my Masters in 2006, worked at a big firm for a year, then a small firm for a couple years, then was forced to start my own firm in 2009 when the economy collapsed. Times have been tough to be sure, especially at the beginning. I made barely enough to cover my loans for the first few years and lived very minimally. It sucked. I under-billed in order to get clients and gave discounts, thinking it would be appreciated (it never is, just don't do it). I diversified into set design, creating 3d models for entertainment industry and that really helped pay the bills! Tough to get into though. And after giving years of my life and barely profiting to design a couple houses, only to watch a realtor come in and do basically nothing and make more than I just did... I got my real estate license too. Pay is way better for the amount of work that goes in. The liability is less, the time frames are much shorter, you get paid from escrow rather than a client having to write a check... So many positives. Finally, I think I'm at a pretty great place. I only take the architecture jobs that I think can be masterpieces. I only work with great clients that respect what I bring to the table. I reject way more projects than I take on. I was charging $150/hr but upped it to $175/hr and no one blinked. I have most of my work automated through remote employees and most of my work as an architect is redlining pdfs, client and contractor contact, and site visits at this point. I golf every Friday. I travel whenever I want. I make about $200k (50/40/10 arch/real estate/set design). It took me a while to figure out how to bill properly, wish they taught this more in school. I know I'm lucky. And maybe I would have given a different answer at many points between 2009-2018, but today, I feel like I've got a good thing going. It's satisfying to watch my projects go up, I get sole credit, I make enough to be comfortable, and put a little away, etc. I have other friends from architecture school in the same position that have followed similar diversified paths. I have some friends from architecture school that went to work for a place like Gensler, put in their time, and are making serious money and have a pension set up and everything. And, probably most of my friends have moved into other fields, out of frustration or financial necessity. Anyway, there is a defeatist mentality that sometimes creeps into this subreddit and I wanted to throw my experiences in the ring so that it doesn't feel all doom and gloom. It will invariably be tough at times but it can work out. Yes... diversify your offerings. Be prepared for clients not to pay you in December while they save for Xmas gifts if you start your own firm. Don't do any work for free or before signing a contract. Know your worth. Learn how to justify your worth to clients. Don't work with a client that gives you a bad feeling or doesn't appreciate the architect's role in the process. And if you go to work for a firm, set your boundaries when you are hired! Say you have another obligation and will be leaving at 6pm or can't work on weekends, or whatever. So many architects think that bending over backward for clients and employers gains them something when in reality people respect you much more when you respect yourself. Good luck to all out there. It can be a tough slog, but it can also work out quite well. | 0 | 24,284 | 2 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy4262c | hy4xxio | 1,645,631,692 | 1,645,643,907 | 3 | 6 | I quit literally before even getting a job. Got my 4 year BS and could already tell it wasn’t for me. Went into themed entertainment and I’m making more than all my old classmates who haven’t become project managers yet. I work just as hard but with people who are extremely passionate (sometimes almost too much so) about what they do and it just feels much less hoity-toity than what I felt like the architecture field was going to be. Idk maybe that’s just me? | I feel obligated to chime in here and counter some of the negativity. I'm a licensed architect in Los Angeles. I got my Masters in 2006, worked at a big firm for a year, then a small firm for a couple years, then was forced to start my own firm in 2009 when the economy collapsed. Times have been tough to be sure, especially at the beginning. I made barely enough to cover my loans for the first few years and lived very minimally. It sucked. I under-billed in order to get clients and gave discounts, thinking it would be appreciated (it never is, just don't do it). I diversified into set design, creating 3d models for entertainment industry and that really helped pay the bills! Tough to get into though. And after giving years of my life and barely profiting to design a couple houses, only to watch a realtor come in and do basically nothing and make more than I just did... I got my real estate license too. Pay is way better for the amount of work that goes in. The liability is less, the time frames are much shorter, you get paid from escrow rather than a client having to write a check... So many positives. Finally, I think I'm at a pretty great place. I only take the architecture jobs that I think can be masterpieces. I only work with great clients that respect what I bring to the table. I reject way more projects than I take on. I was charging $150/hr but upped it to $175/hr and no one blinked. I have most of my work automated through remote employees and most of my work as an architect is redlining pdfs, client and contractor contact, and site visits at this point. I golf every Friday. I travel whenever I want. I make about $200k (50/40/10 arch/real estate/set design). It took me a while to figure out how to bill properly, wish they taught this more in school. I know I'm lucky. And maybe I would have given a different answer at many points between 2009-2018, but today, I feel like I've got a good thing going. It's satisfying to watch my projects go up, I get sole credit, I make enough to be comfortable, and put a little away, etc. I have other friends from architecture school in the same position that have followed similar diversified paths. I have some friends from architecture school that went to work for a place like Gensler, put in their time, and are making serious money and have a pension set up and everything. And, probably most of my friends have moved into other fields, out of frustration or financial necessity. Anyway, there is a defeatist mentality that sometimes creeps into this subreddit and I wanted to throw my experiences in the ring so that it doesn't feel all doom and gloom. It will invariably be tough at times but it can work out. Yes... diversify your offerings. Be prepared for clients not to pay you in December while they save for Xmas gifts if you start your own firm. Don't do any work for free or before signing a contract. Know your worth. Learn how to justify your worth to clients. Don't work with a client that gives you a bad feeling or doesn't appreciate the architect's role in the process. And if you go to work for a firm, set your boundaries when you are hired! Say you have another obligation and will be leaving at 6pm or can't work on weekends, or whatever. So many architects think that bending over backward for clients and employers gains them something when in reality people respect you much more when you respect yourself. Good luck to all out there. It can be a tough slog, but it can also work out quite well. | 0 | 12,215 | 2 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy3nasu | hy2rk1f | 1,645,625,353 | 1,645,603,269 | 7 | 4 | I think you are right, there is not any respect for our career and if we are not the best of the best is more like a living hell. I'm form Colombia and here they see architects like something unnecessary or as an absolute luxury. Normally clients want us to make incredible concept desings for free and if we want to charge them with the real price the answer is more like "the foreman makes it for me" and it's just so frustrating than they trust a project with incredible potential to someone just because they will not charge them anything for the desing. Anyway, i know how you feel bro | Come to UX/Product Design! | 1 | 22,084 | 1.75 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy3nasu | hy3n9ao | 1,645,625,353 | 1,645,625,333 | 7 | 3 | I think you are right, there is not any respect for our career and if we are not the best of the best is more like a living hell. I'm form Colombia and here they see architects like something unnecessary or as an absolute luxury. Normally clients want us to make incredible concept desings for free and if we want to charge them with the real price the answer is more like "the foreman makes it for me" and it's just so frustrating than they trust a project with incredible potential to someone just because they will not charge them anything for the desing. Anyway, i know how you feel bro | I'm just gonna say that my boss it's a very successful and experimented architect with more than 17 years of experience at the head of one cell of the biggest architecture company of my country and still he just wants to buy some terrain at any village far from the capital and do anything aside from architecture. | 1 | 20 | 2.333333 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy3nasu | hy34jea | 1,645,625,353 | 1,645,614,032 | 7 | 3 | I think you are right, there is not any respect for our career and if we are not the best of the best is more like a living hell. I'm form Colombia and here they see architects like something unnecessary or as an absolute luxury. Normally clients want us to make incredible concept desings for free and if we want to charge them with the real price the answer is more like "the foreman makes it for me" and it's just so frustrating than they trust a project with incredible potential to someone just because they will not charge them anything for the desing. Anyway, i know how you feel bro | Gonna graduate in some months. Thinking about switching to Production Design seeing the pay vs work situation in India. Any tips? | 1 | 11,321 | 2.333333 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy3cfis | hy3nasu | 1,645,619,622 | 1,645,625,353 | 3 | 7 | I was in private practice for 12 yrs or so then got into govt side of things. Not as stressful bc there isn't the pressure on the company to be profitable. I'm now in a construction manager position and I like it more than design (really glorified draftsman before) bc it's more overseeing the construction and the architect skillset is perfect for that job. I will say it's more challenging than my other positions | I think you are right, there is not any respect for our career and if we are not the best of the best is more like a living hell. I'm form Colombia and here they see architects like something unnecessary or as an absolute luxury. Normally clients want us to make incredible concept desings for free and if we want to charge them with the real price the answer is more like "the foreman makes it for me" and it's just so frustrating than they trust a project with incredible potential to someone just because they will not charge them anything for the desing. Anyway, i know how you feel bro | 0 | 5,731 | 2.333333 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy3cfmk | hy3nasu | 1,645,619,623 | 1,645,625,353 | 3 | 7 | I switched to set design, its really fun. long hours but you get paid decent overtime. no free work! have been doing it about 3 years, i was the set designer for MAID on netflix, not actually any big sets in that one but it was a lot of alterations to existing locations which all require concept/modeling/construction drawings. I work based out of vancouver where theres a shortage of set designers, definitely don’t regret the switch! | I think you are right, there is not any respect for our career and if we are not the best of the best is more like a living hell. I'm form Colombia and here they see architects like something unnecessary or as an absolute luxury. Normally clients want us to make incredible concept desings for free and if we want to charge them with the real price the answer is more like "the foreman makes it for me" and it's just so frustrating than they trust a project with incredible potential to someone just because they will not charge them anything for the desing. Anyway, i know how you feel bro | 0 | 5,730 | 2.333333 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy3oc4f | hy2rk1f | 1,645,625,840 | 1,645,603,269 | 7 | 4 | Underpaid? Try making $45,000 a year as a carpenter building your convoluted ass designs 🤣 Edit- in the trades we always assume you guys make $100-200+ an hour, at least in the states. Am I off? | Come to UX/Product Design! | 1 | 22,571 | 1.75 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy3oc4f | hy3n9ao | 1,645,625,840 | 1,645,625,333 | 7 | 3 | Underpaid? Try making $45,000 a year as a carpenter building your convoluted ass designs 🤣 Edit- in the trades we always assume you guys make $100-200+ an hour, at least in the states. Am I off? | I'm just gonna say that my boss it's a very successful and experimented architect with more than 17 years of experience at the head of one cell of the biggest architecture company of my country and still he just wants to buy some terrain at any village far from the capital and do anything aside from architecture. | 1 | 507 | 2.333333 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy34jea | hy3oc4f | 1,645,614,032 | 1,645,625,840 | 3 | 7 | Gonna graduate in some months. Thinking about switching to Production Design seeing the pay vs work situation in India. Any tips? | Underpaid? Try making $45,000 a year as a carpenter building your convoluted ass designs 🤣 Edit- in the trades we always assume you guys make $100-200+ an hour, at least in the states. Am I off? | 0 | 11,808 | 2.333333 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy3cfis | hy3oc4f | 1,645,619,622 | 1,645,625,840 | 3 | 7 | I was in private practice for 12 yrs or so then got into govt side of things. Not as stressful bc there isn't the pressure on the company to be profitable. I'm now in a construction manager position and I like it more than design (really glorified draftsman before) bc it's more overseeing the construction and the architect skillset is perfect for that job. I will say it's more challenging than my other positions | Underpaid? Try making $45,000 a year as a carpenter building your convoluted ass designs 🤣 Edit- in the trades we always assume you guys make $100-200+ an hour, at least in the states. Am I off? | 0 | 6,218 | 2.333333 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy3oc4f | hy3cfmk | 1,645,625,840 | 1,645,619,623 | 7 | 3 | Underpaid? Try making $45,000 a year as a carpenter building your convoluted ass designs 🤣 Edit- in the trades we always assume you guys make $100-200+ an hour, at least in the states. Am I off? | I switched to set design, its really fun. long hours but you get paid decent overtime. no free work! have been doing it about 3 years, i was the set designer for MAID on netflix, not actually any big sets in that one but it was a lot of alterations to existing locations which all require concept/modeling/construction drawings. I work based out of vancouver where theres a shortage of set designers, definitely don’t regret the switch! | 1 | 6,217 | 2.333333 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy4firy | hy2rk1f | 1,645,636,825 | 1,645,603,269 | 5 | 4 | no. 1 - Architects need to charge higher rates; stop undercutting each other. Even when others are quoting a rate that is less than 2/3rds of what you are asking, do not budge. For comparison (staff hour billing rate to clients): Lawyers $300/hr; Structural Engineer $200/hr; Architect typically $90/hr. I quote in services proposals $150 per staff hour and I am not always rejected. I see article after article written for consumers stating that a typical cost of architectural services is between $90 and $110 an hour. When looking at these numbers, keep in mind that this is not what is going into the pockets of the person doing the work. There are high costs of running a practice that don't come to mind for a lot of people. For those who are practicing on the side or on your own, keep this in mind. Do not charge $65 an hour for what you're doing. It might sound like a lot, but it is a mockery of our profession. no. 2 - Project managers need to watch the time that goes into the development and production for a project. Let your supervisor know when you get to 38 hours for the week and have a good summary of what you have been doing in the time that has been devoted to the project. Talk to the people in charge. Communicate. Don't worry about being chastised for being slow, etc. If they give you that shit, fuck'em If/when I start to grow my practice with employees, the ideal case would be to put a cap on staff working beyond 40 hours per week (I have no doubt that other architects here would give a sarcastic "good luck with that"). holy shit this is an unhinged rant... maybe I'll copy/paste this to a post in r/architects | Come to UX/Product Design! | 1 | 33,556 | 1.25 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy3n9ao | hy4firy | 1,645,625,333 | 1,645,636,825 | 3 | 5 | I'm just gonna say that my boss it's a very successful and experimented architect with more than 17 years of experience at the head of one cell of the biggest architecture company of my country and still he just wants to buy some terrain at any village far from the capital and do anything aside from architecture. | no. 1 - Architects need to charge higher rates; stop undercutting each other. Even when others are quoting a rate that is less than 2/3rds of what you are asking, do not budge. For comparison (staff hour billing rate to clients): Lawyers $300/hr; Structural Engineer $200/hr; Architect typically $90/hr. I quote in services proposals $150 per staff hour and I am not always rejected. I see article after article written for consumers stating that a typical cost of architectural services is between $90 and $110 an hour. When looking at these numbers, keep in mind that this is not what is going into the pockets of the person doing the work. There are high costs of running a practice that don't come to mind for a lot of people. For those who are practicing on the side or on your own, keep this in mind. Do not charge $65 an hour for what you're doing. It might sound like a lot, but it is a mockery of our profession. no. 2 - Project managers need to watch the time that goes into the development and production for a project. Let your supervisor know when you get to 38 hours for the week and have a good summary of what you have been doing in the time that has been devoted to the project. Talk to the people in charge. Communicate. Don't worry about being chastised for being slow, etc. If they give you that shit, fuck'em If/when I start to grow my practice with employees, the ideal case would be to put a cap on staff working beyond 40 hours per week (I have no doubt that other architects here would give a sarcastic "good luck with that"). holy shit this is an unhinged rant... maybe I'll copy/paste this to a post in r/architects | 0 | 11,492 | 1.666667 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy4firy | hy3xy25 | 1,645,636,825 | 1,645,629,972 | 5 | 3 | no. 1 - Architects need to charge higher rates; stop undercutting each other. Even when others are quoting a rate that is less than 2/3rds of what you are asking, do not budge. For comparison (staff hour billing rate to clients): Lawyers $300/hr; Structural Engineer $200/hr; Architect typically $90/hr. I quote in services proposals $150 per staff hour and I am not always rejected. I see article after article written for consumers stating that a typical cost of architectural services is between $90 and $110 an hour. When looking at these numbers, keep in mind that this is not what is going into the pockets of the person doing the work. There are high costs of running a practice that don't come to mind for a lot of people. For those who are practicing on the side or on your own, keep this in mind. Do not charge $65 an hour for what you're doing. It might sound like a lot, but it is a mockery of our profession. no. 2 - Project managers need to watch the time that goes into the development and production for a project. Let your supervisor know when you get to 38 hours for the week and have a good summary of what you have been doing in the time that has been devoted to the project. Talk to the people in charge. Communicate. Don't worry about being chastised for being slow, etc. If they give you that shit, fuck'em If/when I start to grow my practice with employees, the ideal case would be to put a cap on staff working beyond 40 hours per week (I have no doubt that other architects here would give a sarcastic "good luck with that"). holy shit this is an unhinged rant... maybe I'll copy/paste this to a post in r/architects | I’ve been in the profession about 8 years now and I’m beyond burnt out. The profession is very toxic | 1 | 6,853 | 1.666667 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy34jea | hy4firy | 1,645,614,032 | 1,645,636,825 | 3 | 5 | Gonna graduate in some months. Thinking about switching to Production Design seeing the pay vs work situation in India. Any tips? | no. 1 - Architects need to charge higher rates; stop undercutting each other. Even when others are quoting a rate that is less than 2/3rds of what you are asking, do not budge. For comparison (staff hour billing rate to clients): Lawyers $300/hr; Structural Engineer $200/hr; Architect typically $90/hr. I quote in services proposals $150 per staff hour and I am not always rejected. I see article after article written for consumers stating that a typical cost of architectural services is between $90 and $110 an hour. When looking at these numbers, keep in mind that this is not what is going into the pockets of the person doing the work. There are high costs of running a practice that don't come to mind for a lot of people. For those who are practicing on the side or on your own, keep this in mind. Do not charge $65 an hour for what you're doing. It might sound like a lot, but it is a mockery of our profession. no. 2 - Project managers need to watch the time that goes into the development and production for a project. Let your supervisor know when you get to 38 hours for the week and have a good summary of what you have been doing in the time that has been devoted to the project. Talk to the people in charge. Communicate. Don't worry about being chastised for being slow, etc. If they give you that shit, fuck'em If/when I start to grow my practice with employees, the ideal case would be to put a cap on staff working beyond 40 hours per week (I have no doubt that other architects here would give a sarcastic "good luck with that"). holy shit this is an unhinged rant... maybe I'll copy/paste this to a post in r/architects | 0 | 22,793 | 1.666667 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy4firy | hy3cfis | 1,645,636,825 | 1,645,619,622 | 5 | 3 | no. 1 - Architects need to charge higher rates; stop undercutting each other. Even when others are quoting a rate that is less than 2/3rds of what you are asking, do not budge. For comparison (staff hour billing rate to clients): Lawyers $300/hr; Structural Engineer $200/hr; Architect typically $90/hr. I quote in services proposals $150 per staff hour and I am not always rejected. I see article after article written for consumers stating that a typical cost of architectural services is between $90 and $110 an hour. When looking at these numbers, keep in mind that this is not what is going into the pockets of the person doing the work. There are high costs of running a practice that don't come to mind for a lot of people. For those who are practicing on the side or on your own, keep this in mind. Do not charge $65 an hour for what you're doing. It might sound like a lot, but it is a mockery of our profession. no. 2 - Project managers need to watch the time that goes into the development and production for a project. Let your supervisor know when you get to 38 hours for the week and have a good summary of what you have been doing in the time that has been devoted to the project. Talk to the people in charge. Communicate. Don't worry about being chastised for being slow, etc. If they give you that shit, fuck'em If/when I start to grow my practice with employees, the ideal case would be to put a cap on staff working beyond 40 hours per week (I have no doubt that other architects here would give a sarcastic "good luck with that"). holy shit this is an unhinged rant... maybe I'll copy/paste this to a post in r/architects | I was in private practice for 12 yrs or so then got into govt side of things. Not as stressful bc there isn't the pressure on the company to be profitable. I'm now in a construction manager position and I like it more than design (really glorified draftsman before) bc it's more overseeing the construction and the architect skillset is perfect for that job. I will say it's more challenging than my other positions | 1 | 17,203 | 1.666667 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy3cfmk | hy4firy | 1,645,619,623 | 1,645,636,825 | 3 | 5 | I switched to set design, its really fun. long hours but you get paid decent overtime. no free work! have been doing it about 3 years, i was the set designer for MAID on netflix, not actually any big sets in that one but it was a lot of alterations to existing locations which all require concept/modeling/construction drawings. I work based out of vancouver where theres a shortage of set designers, definitely don’t regret the switch! | no. 1 - Architects need to charge higher rates; stop undercutting each other. Even when others are quoting a rate that is less than 2/3rds of what you are asking, do not budge. For comparison (staff hour billing rate to clients): Lawyers $300/hr; Structural Engineer $200/hr; Architect typically $90/hr. I quote in services proposals $150 per staff hour and I am not always rejected. I see article after article written for consumers stating that a typical cost of architectural services is between $90 and $110 an hour. When looking at these numbers, keep in mind that this is not what is going into the pockets of the person doing the work. There are high costs of running a practice that don't come to mind for a lot of people. For those who are practicing on the side or on your own, keep this in mind. Do not charge $65 an hour for what you're doing. It might sound like a lot, but it is a mockery of our profession. no. 2 - Project managers need to watch the time that goes into the development and production for a project. Let your supervisor know when you get to 38 hours for the week and have a good summary of what you have been doing in the time that has been devoted to the project. Talk to the people in charge. Communicate. Don't worry about being chastised for being slow, etc. If they give you that shit, fuck'em If/when I start to grow my practice with employees, the ideal case would be to put a cap on staff working beyond 40 hours per week (I have no doubt that other architects here would give a sarcastic "good luck with that"). holy shit this is an unhinged rant... maybe I'll copy/paste this to a post in r/architects | 0 | 17,202 | 1.666667 | ||
sz8tf1 | architecture_train | 0.98 | Any architects considering switching careers? I’ve been in the profession for almost 10 years now, and I do love the work, but I’m starting to feel burnt out and stressed out. Plus we’re generally overworked, underpaid and under appreciated. Anyone else feel this way? | hy4firy | hy4262c | 1,645,636,825 | 1,645,631,692 | 5 | 3 | no. 1 - Architects need to charge higher rates; stop undercutting each other. Even when others are quoting a rate that is less than 2/3rds of what you are asking, do not budge. For comparison (staff hour billing rate to clients): Lawyers $300/hr; Structural Engineer $200/hr; Architect typically $90/hr. I quote in services proposals $150 per staff hour and I am not always rejected. I see article after article written for consumers stating that a typical cost of architectural services is between $90 and $110 an hour. When looking at these numbers, keep in mind that this is not what is going into the pockets of the person doing the work. There are high costs of running a practice that don't come to mind for a lot of people. For those who are practicing on the side or on your own, keep this in mind. Do not charge $65 an hour for what you're doing. It might sound like a lot, but it is a mockery of our profession. no. 2 - Project managers need to watch the time that goes into the development and production for a project. Let your supervisor know when you get to 38 hours for the week and have a good summary of what you have been doing in the time that has been devoted to the project. Talk to the people in charge. Communicate. Don't worry about being chastised for being slow, etc. If they give you that shit, fuck'em If/when I start to grow my practice with employees, the ideal case would be to put a cap on staff working beyond 40 hours per week (I have no doubt that other architects here would give a sarcastic "good luck with that"). holy shit this is an unhinged rant... maybe I'll copy/paste this to a post in r/architects | I quit literally before even getting a job. Got my 4 year BS and could already tell it wasn’t for me. Went into themed entertainment and I’m making more than all my old classmates who haven’t become project managers yet. I work just as hard but with people who are extremely passionate (sometimes almost too much so) about what they do and it just feels much less hoity-toity than what I felt like the architecture field was going to be. Idk maybe that’s just me? | 1 | 5,133 | 1.666667 | ||
8p0py8 | architecture_train | 1 | [ask]Looking to hire an architect. What are some questions I should be asking? My wife and I are about to start interviewing architects to design our house. What are some questions we should be asking? For some context we are looking for a main house, pool, and guest house/pool house/mother-in-law house. We are looking to build on a little over a half acre. | e08rq41 | e07ubva | 1,528,335,128 | 1,528,304,196 | 10 | 2 | Are you in the US by any chance? I can give you some good advice as someone who’s about to have their house finished. I actually had a similar thread a few years ago, before I started my final push. (this is my alt account, one it's done I'll probably just do this stuff from my main account) The smartest thing I did was go in eyes wide open—I knew exactly what I was getting into, so there were no surprises. Here are some quick thoughts and *considerations*, but I'm happy to expand on any of them (and this is written assuming you're in the US): * You're going to have extra time and cost compared to a straightforward design/build firm that may or may not use an architect (let alone an interesting one). Some of those outfits still do quality work so long as you don't mind your house looking like whatever the trends du jour are (at least on the outside). Hiring an architect generally adds 10-15% to the price (regardless of how you structure the fees), and the time it takes to get your design where you want it. That time depends as much on you and whether you'll be asking for revision after revision. * Be thorough in going through the websites of all your local residential architects. A good place for direction is your local AIA chapter's website: many have lists of architects, and some even break it down by areas they work in (e.g. some stick to commercial stuff, some residential-only, others both –and many of those still tend to see more work in a particular area). * When looking at sites, look at their portfolios/work: If they don't do designs you like, it may not be be worth the effort. I found a half-dozen good candidates, visited them all (they would do a presentation of their work and philosophy)—found two I really connected with, and it was such a close call that I don't feel like either one was a bad choice for my own project/personality (I even had my spouse interview them, she isn't as into the process but she can read people and is a professional like me). * Does this firm do interior work? Do you want them to or do you need an interior designer? Some styles (like the very modern stuff I'm having have done) make the architecture part of the interior design. Some other contemporary styles don't. Some architects have interior designers they recommend working with. Be open to considering them but don't feel obligated. * Who is doing landscape design? Will the architect? Will you require a landscape architect? Sometimes a lot may be difficult enough that an architect will want to have a landscape architect at least do some light consulation on an overall plan. * References are important, talk to them before making a final decision. Make sure those are relatively recent clients. I'm happy I did. Sometimes a house is delayed because of a contractor or a city planner's issue – many of those situations have nothing to do with the architect (but some do). * A younger architect going off on their own may be willing to offer better rates and/or looks really hungry for your work and making it really good for their own portfolio. Obviously, the knock there is they may miss some things or make mistakes a veteran wouldn't. I've seen some interesting houses by young architects in my area. * Rates are negotiable. We didn't try to squeeze our architects, but we did negotiate in some things that were going to be more a la carte later. One of the most important things we includes, and something we would've done regardless of whether it was negotiated ahead, is having an architect from the office at the site at least one a week for a meeting with the general contractor. It helps solve a lot of problems before they become massive. This helps that my spouse and I are both attorneys and do corporate/business agreements. * It helps if your architects have built or renovated something themselves (some of them like to): they will have a better idea of what's costly/feasible/etc. Not a huge requirement, but I've seen that in play. A savvy architect could be similarly aware without that, but it's nice when they understand construction well. A few older starchitects were infamous for not having a good idea about the engineering side. If the architect has a reputation as a “mad scientist” you may run into designs that really confuse the actual folks who have to build it (to say nothing of the structural engineer who will need to sign off on it). * If it's a new build: DO SOIL TESTING NOW. I don't care if there's a house you're going to knock down, sometimes the new house will be placed differently have other issues. Do a minimum of 3 borings in the rough spot the house is expected to be. We have close friends who warned us because they bought and demoed an old bungalow, hired a top-flight architect, designed a beautiful house that was better sited, did 2 borings ahead of time... and found out the soil in the spot they missed (where there had never been a house or structure) was a mess a bit too late: this added a massive cost to remedy when, had it been caught, it could've been mitigated in the design for far less. We did this when we bought the land and before we hired an architect—it didn't matter who was designing it, it had to be done regardless. * Ask each architect you interview about what they're seeing as ranges for cost per square foot in your area—at least on what the build. Be clear you're not going to hold them to it, but if you start to see an outlier it will be the person who is aiming too low compared to the others. Beware of that architect because they may not be as in the loop, or not used to building at the level of house you're looking for. * Ignore the guy who blathered on about title and such, no one cared. It does help to have a budget in mind though, but that should hopefully be obvious to you. Any architect who comes off like that dude should be crossed off your list. It's a business about relationships. * If you like a larger firm with a couple of older architects who woo you during your interview: will they be the people actually designing your house, or will it be a junior architect whose work you may not like a much? * How many meetings will you get with your design team? How many will be important to you? I had one a month and wasn't overly demanding here because I wanted to let them have time to breathe with their own thoughts. * Ideally, the initial process will be: Initial meetings where the firms pitch themselves at you, any follow-ups you may have, then you pick one. There may be an initial time where you discuss your “program” (this is basically where you go over what you want, both logistically/practical stuff as well as some general aesthetic direction) before they make a very general estimate and you sign an agreement. Some may require an agreement before the program. Either way, that program is going to be a vital component that will guide your relationship with the architect. * Before you start with whoever you choose, do your own work ahead of time to help them help you efficiently: I went through books and many hundred, if not a thousand, house pages on ArchDaily and some other sites. I picked a dozen or so styles that captured the general feel of what I liked. I didn't say “make it look exactly like this” but I gave my architect some general directions—and you know what? They were able to come up with a unique vision that managed to capture a lot of what I liked without looking like something sewed together like a frankenstein of elements (cough, I have seen a few that are like that, but as long as the client is happy!). * If you can be, when it comes to picking a general contractor be a little flexible: I was trying to balance finding the right general contractor who (1) my architects felt comfortable with that (2) met our budgetary needs (e.g. not the Rolls-Royce of builders that wouldn't even want the project if it wasn't in their range). Thankfully my architects had worked with many firms and suggested a half dozen, we actually eliminated one or two our friends had bad experiences with (not with my architects). Again, this has been so-far been a good relationship. That's a bit long, but I hope it's helpful! Good luck on your project, hope you share updates as you move through. We are now crossing our fingers that we move in this September (there have been some delays that were related to things I cannot blame my architect or general contractor for). My timeline: closed on the lot in November 2016, picked an architect in December, signed the agreement in January 2017, finalized design in June, picked a general contractor in July, started clearing the lot in September 2017, | Ask about what they have done in the past, their ways of working and preferred scope of services. Have they worked in this area and with this local authority before, do they know contractors etc. Ask how the fee structure could work and ask about timescales. But mostly get a feel for how you would get on with them. | 1 | 30,932 | 5 | ||
8p0py8 | architecture_train | 1 | [ask]Looking to hire an architect. What are some questions I should be asking? My wife and I are about to start interviewing architects to design our house. What are some questions we should be asking? For some context we are looking for a main house, pool, and guest house/pool house/mother-in-law house. We are looking to build on a little over a half acre. | e08848j | e08rq41 | 1,528,315,990 | 1,528,335,128 | 2 | 10 | Boston Society of Architects has a webpage/printed material to answer questions similar to this. Although the directory is strictly Massachusetts Architects the content is geared towards homeowners starting a project. https://www.homeownersprojecthandbook.com/ | Are you in the US by any chance? I can give you some good advice as someone who’s about to have their house finished. I actually had a similar thread a few years ago, before I started my final push. (this is my alt account, one it's done I'll probably just do this stuff from my main account) The smartest thing I did was go in eyes wide open—I knew exactly what I was getting into, so there were no surprises. Here are some quick thoughts and *considerations*, but I'm happy to expand on any of them (and this is written assuming you're in the US): * You're going to have extra time and cost compared to a straightforward design/build firm that may or may not use an architect (let alone an interesting one). Some of those outfits still do quality work so long as you don't mind your house looking like whatever the trends du jour are (at least on the outside). Hiring an architect generally adds 10-15% to the price (regardless of how you structure the fees), and the time it takes to get your design where you want it. That time depends as much on you and whether you'll be asking for revision after revision. * Be thorough in going through the websites of all your local residential architects. A good place for direction is your local AIA chapter's website: many have lists of architects, and some even break it down by areas they work in (e.g. some stick to commercial stuff, some residential-only, others both –and many of those still tend to see more work in a particular area). * When looking at sites, look at their portfolios/work: If they don't do designs you like, it may not be be worth the effort. I found a half-dozen good candidates, visited them all (they would do a presentation of their work and philosophy)—found two I really connected with, and it was such a close call that I don't feel like either one was a bad choice for my own project/personality (I even had my spouse interview them, she isn't as into the process but she can read people and is a professional like me). * Does this firm do interior work? Do you want them to or do you need an interior designer? Some styles (like the very modern stuff I'm having have done) make the architecture part of the interior design. Some other contemporary styles don't. Some architects have interior designers they recommend working with. Be open to considering them but don't feel obligated. * Who is doing landscape design? Will the architect? Will you require a landscape architect? Sometimes a lot may be difficult enough that an architect will want to have a landscape architect at least do some light consulation on an overall plan. * References are important, talk to them before making a final decision. Make sure those are relatively recent clients. I'm happy I did. Sometimes a house is delayed because of a contractor or a city planner's issue – many of those situations have nothing to do with the architect (but some do). * A younger architect going off on their own may be willing to offer better rates and/or looks really hungry for your work and making it really good for their own portfolio. Obviously, the knock there is they may miss some things or make mistakes a veteran wouldn't. I've seen some interesting houses by young architects in my area. * Rates are negotiable. We didn't try to squeeze our architects, but we did negotiate in some things that were going to be more a la carte later. One of the most important things we includes, and something we would've done regardless of whether it was negotiated ahead, is having an architect from the office at the site at least one a week for a meeting with the general contractor. It helps solve a lot of problems before they become massive. This helps that my spouse and I are both attorneys and do corporate/business agreements. * It helps if your architects have built or renovated something themselves (some of them like to): they will have a better idea of what's costly/feasible/etc. Not a huge requirement, but I've seen that in play. A savvy architect could be similarly aware without that, but it's nice when they understand construction well. A few older starchitects were infamous for not having a good idea about the engineering side. If the architect has a reputation as a “mad scientist” you may run into designs that really confuse the actual folks who have to build it (to say nothing of the structural engineer who will need to sign off on it). * If it's a new build: DO SOIL TESTING NOW. I don't care if there's a house you're going to knock down, sometimes the new house will be placed differently have other issues. Do a minimum of 3 borings in the rough spot the house is expected to be. We have close friends who warned us because they bought and demoed an old bungalow, hired a top-flight architect, designed a beautiful house that was better sited, did 2 borings ahead of time... and found out the soil in the spot they missed (where there had never been a house or structure) was a mess a bit too late: this added a massive cost to remedy when, had it been caught, it could've been mitigated in the design for far less. We did this when we bought the land and before we hired an architect—it didn't matter who was designing it, it had to be done regardless. * Ask each architect you interview about what they're seeing as ranges for cost per square foot in your area—at least on what the build. Be clear you're not going to hold them to it, but if you start to see an outlier it will be the person who is aiming too low compared to the others. Beware of that architect because they may not be as in the loop, or not used to building at the level of house you're looking for. * Ignore the guy who blathered on about title and such, no one cared. It does help to have a budget in mind though, but that should hopefully be obvious to you. Any architect who comes off like that dude should be crossed off your list. It's a business about relationships. * If you like a larger firm with a couple of older architects who woo you during your interview: will they be the people actually designing your house, or will it be a junior architect whose work you may not like a much? * How many meetings will you get with your design team? How many will be important to you? I had one a month and wasn't overly demanding here because I wanted to let them have time to breathe with their own thoughts. * Ideally, the initial process will be: Initial meetings where the firms pitch themselves at you, any follow-ups you may have, then you pick one. There may be an initial time where you discuss your “program” (this is basically where you go over what you want, both logistically/practical stuff as well as some general aesthetic direction) before they make a very general estimate and you sign an agreement. Some may require an agreement before the program. Either way, that program is going to be a vital component that will guide your relationship with the architect. * Before you start with whoever you choose, do your own work ahead of time to help them help you efficiently: I went through books and many hundred, if not a thousand, house pages on ArchDaily and some other sites. I picked a dozen or so styles that captured the general feel of what I liked. I didn't say “make it look exactly like this” but I gave my architect some general directions—and you know what? They were able to come up with a unique vision that managed to capture a lot of what I liked without looking like something sewed together like a frankenstein of elements (cough, I have seen a few that are like that, but as long as the client is happy!). * If you can be, when it comes to picking a general contractor be a little flexible: I was trying to balance finding the right general contractor who (1) my architects felt comfortable with that (2) met our budgetary needs (e.g. not the Rolls-Royce of builders that wouldn't even want the project if it wasn't in their range). Thankfully my architects had worked with many firms and suggested a half dozen, we actually eliminated one or two our friends had bad experiences with (not with my architects). Again, this has been so-far been a good relationship. That's a bit long, but I hope it's helpful! Good luck on your project, hope you share updates as you move through. We are now crossing our fingers that we move in this September (there have been some delays that were related to things I cannot blame my architect or general contractor for). My timeline: closed on the lot in November 2016, picked an architect in December, signed the agreement in January 2017, finalized design in June, picked a general contractor in July, started clearing the lot in September 2017, | 0 | 19,138 | 5 | ||
8p0py8 | architecture_train | 1 | [ask]Looking to hire an architect. What are some questions I should be asking? My wife and I are about to start interviewing architects to design our house. What are some questions we should be asking? For some context we are looking for a main house, pool, and guest house/pool house/mother-in-law house. We are looking to build on a little over a half acre. | e08rq41 | e07i6xd | 1,528,335,128 | 1,528,293,520 | 10 | 1 | Are you in the US by any chance? I can give you some good advice as someone who’s about to have their house finished. I actually had a similar thread a few years ago, before I started my final push. (this is my alt account, one it's done I'll probably just do this stuff from my main account) The smartest thing I did was go in eyes wide open—I knew exactly what I was getting into, so there were no surprises. Here are some quick thoughts and *considerations*, but I'm happy to expand on any of them (and this is written assuming you're in the US): * You're going to have extra time and cost compared to a straightforward design/build firm that may or may not use an architect (let alone an interesting one). Some of those outfits still do quality work so long as you don't mind your house looking like whatever the trends du jour are (at least on the outside). Hiring an architect generally adds 10-15% to the price (regardless of how you structure the fees), and the time it takes to get your design where you want it. That time depends as much on you and whether you'll be asking for revision after revision. * Be thorough in going through the websites of all your local residential architects. A good place for direction is your local AIA chapter's website: many have lists of architects, and some even break it down by areas they work in (e.g. some stick to commercial stuff, some residential-only, others both –and many of those still tend to see more work in a particular area). * When looking at sites, look at their portfolios/work: If they don't do designs you like, it may not be be worth the effort. I found a half-dozen good candidates, visited them all (they would do a presentation of their work and philosophy)—found two I really connected with, and it was such a close call that I don't feel like either one was a bad choice for my own project/personality (I even had my spouse interview them, she isn't as into the process but she can read people and is a professional like me). * Does this firm do interior work? Do you want them to or do you need an interior designer? Some styles (like the very modern stuff I'm having have done) make the architecture part of the interior design. Some other contemporary styles don't. Some architects have interior designers they recommend working with. Be open to considering them but don't feel obligated. * Who is doing landscape design? Will the architect? Will you require a landscape architect? Sometimes a lot may be difficult enough that an architect will want to have a landscape architect at least do some light consulation on an overall plan. * References are important, talk to them before making a final decision. Make sure those are relatively recent clients. I'm happy I did. Sometimes a house is delayed because of a contractor or a city planner's issue – many of those situations have nothing to do with the architect (but some do). * A younger architect going off on their own may be willing to offer better rates and/or looks really hungry for your work and making it really good for their own portfolio. Obviously, the knock there is they may miss some things or make mistakes a veteran wouldn't. I've seen some interesting houses by young architects in my area. * Rates are negotiable. We didn't try to squeeze our architects, but we did negotiate in some things that were going to be more a la carte later. One of the most important things we includes, and something we would've done regardless of whether it was negotiated ahead, is having an architect from the office at the site at least one a week for a meeting with the general contractor. It helps solve a lot of problems before they become massive. This helps that my spouse and I are both attorneys and do corporate/business agreements. * It helps if your architects have built or renovated something themselves (some of them like to): they will have a better idea of what's costly/feasible/etc. Not a huge requirement, but I've seen that in play. A savvy architect could be similarly aware without that, but it's nice when they understand construction well. A few older starchitects were infamous for not having a good idea about the engineering side. If the architect has a reputation as a “mad scientist” you may run into designs that really confuse the actual folks who have to build it (to say nothing of the structural engineer who will need to sign off on it). * If it's a new build: DO SOIL TESTING NOW. I don't care if there's a house you're going to knock down, sometimes the new house will be placed differently have other issues. Do a minimum of 3 borings in the rough spot the house is expected to be. We have close friends who warned us because they bought and demoed an old bungalow, hired a top-flight architect, designed a beautiful house that was better sited, did 2 borings ahead of time... and found out the soil in the spot they missed (where there had never been a house or structure) was a mess a bit too late: this added a massive cost to remedy when, had it been caught, it could've been mitigated in the design for far less. We did this when we bought the land and before we hired an architect—it didn't matter who was designing it, it had to be done regardless. * Ask each architect you interview about what they're seeing as ranges for cost per square foot in your area—at least on what the build. Be clear you're not going to hold them to it, but if you start to see an outlier it will be the person who is aiming too low compared to the others. Beware of that architect because they may not be as in the loop, or not used to building at the level of house you're looking for. * Ignore the guy who blathered on about title and such, no one cared. It does help to have a budget in mind though, but that should hopefully be obvious to you. Any architect who comes off like that dude should be crossed off your list. It's a business about relationships. * If you like a larger firm with a couple of older architects who woo you during your interview: will they be the people actually designing your house, or will it be a junior architect whose work you may not like a much? * How many meetings will you get with your design team? How many will be important to you? I had one a month and wasn't overly demanding here because I wanted to let them have time to breathe with their own thoughts. * Ideally, the initial process will be: Initial meetings where the firms pitch themselves at you, any follow-ups you may have, then you pick one. There may be an initial time where you discuss your “program” (this is basically where you go over what you want, both logistically/practical stuff as well as some general aesthetic direction) before they make a very general estimate and you sign an agreement. Some may require an agreement before the program. Either way, that program is going to be a vital component that will guide your relationship with the architect. * Before you start with whoever you choose, do your own work ahead of time to help them help you efficiently: I went through books and many hundred, if not a thousand, house pages on ArchDaily and some other sites. I picked a dozen or so styles that captured the general feel of what I liked. I didn't say “make it look exactly like this” but I gave my architect some general directions—and you know what? They were able to come up with a unique vision that managed to capture a lot of what I liked without looking like something sewed together like a frankenstein of elements (cough, I have seen a few that are like that, but as long as the client is happy!). * If you can be, when it comes to picking a general contractor be a little flexible: I was trying to balance finding the right general contractor who (1) my architects felt comfortable with that (2) met our budgetary needs (e.g. not the Rolls-Royce of builders that wouldn't even want the project if it wasn't in their range). Thankfully my architects had worked with many firms and suggested a half dozen, we actually eliminated one or two our friends had bad experiences with (not with my architects). Again, this has been so-far been a good relationship. That's a bit long, but I hope it's helpful! Good luck on your project, hope you share updates as you move through. We are now crossing our fingers that we move in this September (there have been some delays that were related to things I cannot blame my architect or general contractor for). My timeline: closed on the lot in November 2016, picked an architect in December, signed the agreement in January 2017, finalized design in June, picked a general contractor in July, started clearing the lot in September 2017, | Recently came across a podcast by an Australian architect specializing in residential. There's a decent sized range of topics that include helping people out in your position. Might help out. Here's the link if you want to check it out: https://undercoverarchitect.com/podcast/ | 1 | 41,608 | 10 | ||
8p0py8 | architecture_train | 1 | [ask]Looking to hire an architect. What are some questions I should be asking? My wife and I are about to start interviewing architects to design our house. What are some questions we should be asking? For some context we are looking for a main house, pool, and guest house/pool house/mother-in-law house. We are looking to build on a little over a half acre. | e08rq41 | e07idae | 1,528,335,128 | 1,528,293,698 | 10 | 0 | Are you in the US by any chance? I can give you some good advice as someone who’s about to have their house finished. I actually had a similar thread a few years ago, before I started my final push. (this is my alt account, one it's done I'll probably just do this stuff from my main account) The smartest thing I did was go in eyes wide open—I knew exactly what I was getting into, so there were no surprises. Here are some quick thoughts and *considerations*, but I'm happy to expand on any of them (and this is written assuming you're in the US): * You're going to have extra time and cost compared to a straightforward design/build firm that may or may not use an architect (let alone an interesting one). Some of those outfits still do quality work so long as you don't mind your house looking like whatever the trends du jour are (at least on the outside). Hiring an architect generally adds 10-15% to the price (regardless of how you structure the fees), and the time it takes to get your design where you want it. That time depends as much on you and whether you'll be asking for revision after revision. * Be thorough in going through the websites of all your local residential architects. A good place for direction is your local AIA chapter's website: many have lists of architects, and some even break it down by areas they work in (e.g. some stick to commercial stuff, some residential-only, others both –and many of those still tend to see more work in a particular area). * When looking at sites, look at their portfolios/work: If they don't do designs you like, it may not be be worth the effort. I found a half-dozen good candidates, visited them all (they would do a presentation of their work and philosophy)—found two I really connected with, and it was such a close call that I don't feel like either one was a bad choice for my own project/personality (I even had my spouse interview them, she isn't as into the process but she can read people and is a professional like me). * Does this firm do interior work? Do you want them to or do you need an interior designer? Some styles (like the very modern stuff I'm having have done) make the architecture part of the interior design. Some other contemporary styles don't. Some architects have interior designers they recommend working with. Be open to considering them but don't feel obligated. * Who is doing landscape design? Will the architect? Will you require a landscape architect? Sometimes a lot may be difficult enough that an architect will want to have a landscape architect at least do some light consulation on an overall plan. * References are important, talk to them before making a final decision. Make sure those are relatively recent clients. I'm happy I did. Sometimes a house is delayed because of a contractor or a city planner's issue – many of those situations have nothing to do with the architect (but some do). * A younger architect going off on their own may be willing to offer better rates and/or looks really hungry for your work and making it really good for their own portfolio. Obviously, the knock there is they may miss some things or make mistakes a veteran wouldn't. I've seen some interesting houses by young architects in my area. * Rates are negotiable. We didn't try to squeeze our architects, but we did negotiate in some things that were going to be more a la carte later. One of the most important things we includes, and something we would've done regardless of whether it was negotiated ahead, is having an architect from the office at the site at least one a week for a meeting with the general contractor. It helps solve a lot of problems before they become massive. This helps that my spouse and I are both attorneys and do corporate/business agreements. * It helps if your architects have built or renovated something themselves (some of them like to): they will have a better idea of what's costly/feasible/etc. Not a huge requirement, but I've seen that in play. A savvy architect could be similarly aware without that, but it's nice when they understand construction well. A few older starchitects were infamous for not having a good idea about the engineering side. If the architect has a reputation as a “mad scientist” you may run into designs that really confuse the actual folks who have to build it (to say nothing of the structural engineer who will need to sign off on it). * If it's a new build: DO SOIL TESTING NOW. I don't care if there's a house you're going to knock down, sometimes the new house will be placed differently have other issues. Do a minimum of 3 borings in the rough spot the house is expected to be. We have close friends who warned us because they bought and demoed an old bungalow, hired a top-flight architect, designed a beautiful house that was better sited, did 2 borings ahead of time... and found out the soil in the spot they missed (where there had never been a house or structure) was a mess a bit too late: this added a massive cost to remedy when, had it been caught, it could've been mitigated in the design for far less. We did this when we bought the land and before we hired an architect—it didn't matter who was designing it, it had to be done regardless. * Ask each architect you interview about what they're seeing as ranges for cost per square foot in your area—at least on what the build. Be clear you're not going to hold them to it, but if you start to see an outlier it will be the person who is aiming too low compared to the others. Beware of that architect because they may not be as in the loop, or not used to building at the level of house you're looking for. * Ignore the guy who blathered on about title and such, no one cared. It does help to have a budget in mind though, but that should hopefully be obvious to you. Any architect who comes off like that dude should be crossed off your list. It's a business about relationships. * If you like a larger firm with a couple of older architects who woo you during your interview: will they be the people actually designing your house, or will it be a junior architect whose work you may not like a much? * How many meetings will you get with your design team? How many will be important to you? I had one a month and wasn't overly demanding here because I wanted to let them have time to breathe with their own thoughts. * Ideally, the initial process will be: Initial meetings where the firms pitch themselves at you, any follow-ups you may have, then you pick one. There may be an initial time where you discuss your “program” (this is basically where you go over what you want, both logistically/practical stuff as well as some general aesthetic direction) before they make a very general estimate and you sign an agreement. Some may require an agreement before the program. Either way, that program is going to be a vital component that will guide your relationship with the architect. * Before you start with whoever you choose, do your own work ahead of time to help them help you efficiently: I went through books and many hundred, if not a thousand, house pages on ArchDaily and some other sites. I picked a dozen or so styles that captured the general feel of what I liked. I didn't say “make it look exactly like this” but I gave my architect some general directions—and you know what? They were able to come up with a unique vision that managed to capture a lot of what I liked without looking like something sewed together like a frankenstein of elements (cough, I have seen a few that are like that, but as long as the client is happy!). * If you can be, when it comes to picking a general contractor be a little flexible: I was trying to balance finding the right general contractor who (1) my architects felt comfortable with that (2) met our budgetary needs (e.g. not the Rolls-Royce of builders that wouldn't even want the project if it wasn't in their range). Thankfully my architects had worked with many firms and suggested a half dozen, we actually eliminated one or two our friends had bad experiences with (not with my architects). Again, this has been so-far been a good relationship. That's a bit long, but I hope it's helpful! Good luck on your project, hope you share updates as you move through. We are now crossing our fingers that we move in this September (there have been some delays that were related to things I cannot blame my architect or general contractor for). My timeline: closed on the lot in November 2016, picked an architect in December, signed the agreement in January 2017, finalized design in June, picked a general contractor in July, started clearing the lot in September 2017, | I would say to ask to see his portfolio. See what kinds of things he’s done in the past, in order to get a vibe for his kind of design work. Every architect has his own style and it’s sometimes hard to get him to change it if you don’t like it. On the other hand, if you do like what he’s done in the past, let him know and then you can help him further visualize what it is you want. | 1 | 41,430 | 10,000 | ||
8p0py8 | architecture_train | 1 | [ask]Looking to hire an architect. What are some questions I should be asking? My wife and I are about to start interviewing architects to design our house. What are some questions we should be asking? For some context we are looking for a main house, pool, and guest house/pool house/mother-in-law house. We are looking to build on a little over a half acre. | e08rq41 | e07nvai | 1,528,335,128 | 1,528,298,683 | 10 | -5 | Are you in the US by any chance? I can give you some good advice as someone who’s about to have their house finished. I actually had a similar thread a few years ago, before I started my final push. (this is my alt account, one it's done I'll probably just do this stuff from my main account) The smartest thing I did was go in eyes wide open—I knew exactly what I was getting into, so there were no surprises. Here are some quick thoughts and *considerations*, but I'm happy to expand on any of them (and this is written assuming you're in the US): * You're going to have extra time and cost compared to a straightforward design/build firm that may or may not use an architect (let alone an interesting one). Some of those outfits still do quality work so long as you don't mind your house looking like whatever the trends du jour are (at least on the outside). Hiring an architect generally adds 10-15% to the price (regardless of how you structure the fees), and the time it takes to get your design where you want it. That time depends as much on you and whether you'll be asking for revision after revision. * Be thorough in going through the websites of all your local residential architects. A good place for direction is your local AIA chapter's website: many have lists of architects, and some even break it down by areas they work in (e.g. some stick to commercial stuff, some residential-only, others both –and many of those still tend to see more work in a particular area). * When looking at sites, look at their portfolios/work: If they don't do designs you like, it may not be be worth the effort. I found a half-dozen good candidates, visited them all (they would do a presentation of their work and philosophy)—found two I really connected with, and it was such a close call that I don't feel like either one was a bad choice for my own project/personality (I even had my spouse interview them, she isn't as into the process but she can read people and is a professional like me). * Does this firm do interior work? Do you want them to or do you need an interior designer? Some styles (like the very modern stuff I'm having have done) make the architecture part of the interior design. Some other contemporary styles don't. Some architects have interior designers they recommend working with. Be open to considering them but don't feel obligated. * Who is doing landscape design? Will the architect? Will you require a landscape architect? Sometimes a lot may be difficult enough that an architect will want to have a landscape architect at least do some light consulation on an overall plan. * References are important, talk to them before making a final decision. Make sure those are relatively recent clients. I'm happy I did. Sometimes a house is delayed because of a contractor or a city planner's issue – many of those situations have nothing to do with the architect (but some do). * A younger architect going off on their own may be willing to offer better rates and/or looks really hungry for your work and making it really good for their own portfolio. Obviously, the knock there is they may miss some things or make mistakes a veteran wouldn't. I've seen some interesting houses by young architects in my area. * Rates are negotiable. We didn't try to squeeze our architects, but we did negotiate in some things that were going to be more a la carte later. One of the most important things we includes, and something we would've done regardless of whether it was negotiated ahead, is having an architect from the office at the site at least one a week for a meeting with the general contractor. It helps solve a lot of problems before they become massive. This helps that my spouse and I are both attorneys and do corporate/business agreements. * It helps if your architects have built or renovated something themselves (some of them like to): they will have a better idea of what's costly/feasible/etc. Not a huge requirement, but I've seen that in play. A savvy architect could be similarly aware without that, but it's nice when they understand construction well. A few older starchitects were infamous for not having a good idea about the engineering side. If the architect has a reputation as a “mad scientist” you may run into designs that really confuse the actual folks who have to build it (to say nothing of the structural engineer who will need to sign off on it). * If it's a new build: DO SOIL TESTING NOW. I don't care if there's a house you're going to knock down, sometimes the new house will be placed differently have other issues. Do a minimum of 3 borings in the rough spot the house is expected to be. We have close friends who warned us because they bought and demoed an old bungalow, hired a top-flight architect, designed a beautiful house that was better sited, did 2 borings ahead of time... and found out the soil in the spot they missed (where there had never been a house or structure) was a mess a bit too late: this added a massive cost to remedy when, had it been caught, it could've been mitigated in the design for far less. We did this when we bought the land and before we hired an architect—it didn't matter who was designing it, it had to be done regardless. * Ask each architect you interview about what they're seeing as ranges for cost per square foot in your area—at least on what the build. Be clear you're not going to hold them to it, but if you start to see an outlier it will be the person who is aiming too low compared to the others. Beware of that architect because they may not be as in the loop, or not used to building at the level of house you're looking for. * Ignore the guy who blathered on about title and such, no one cared. It does help to have a budget in mind though, but that should hopefully be obvious to you. Any architect who comes off like that dude should be crossed off your list. It's a business about relationships. * If you like a larger firm with a couple of older architects who woo you during your interview: will they be the people actually designing your house, or will it be a junior architect whose work you may not like a much? * How many meetings will you get with your design team? How many will be important to you? I had one a month and wasn't overly demanding here because I wanted to let them have time to breathe with their own thoughts. * Ideally, the initial process will be: Initial meetings where the firms pitch themselves at you, any follow-ups you may have, then you pick one. There may be an initial time where you discuss your “program” (this is basically where you go over what you want, both logistically/practical stuff as well as some general aesthetic direction) before they make a very general estimate and you sign an agreement. Some may require an agreement before the program. Either way, that program is going to be a vital component that will guide your relationship with the architect. * Before you start with whoever you choose, do your own work ahead of time to help them help you efficiently: I went through books and many hundred, if not a thousand, house pages on ArchDaily and some other sites. I picked a dozen or so styles that captured the general feel of what I liked. I didn't say “make it look exactly like this” but I gave my architect some general directions—and you know what? They were able to come up with a unique vision that managed to capture a lot of what I liked without looking like something sewed together like a frankenstein of elements (cough, I have seen a few that are like that, but as long as the client is happy!). * If you can be, when it comes to picking a general contractor be a little flexible: I was trying to balance finding the right general contractor who (1) my architects felt comfortable with that (2) met our budgetary needs (e.g. not the Rolls-Royce of builders that wouldn't even want the project if it wasn't in their range). Thankfully my architects had worked with many firms and suggested a half dozen, we actually eliminated one or two our friends had bad experiences with (not with my architects). Again, this has been so-far been a good relationship. That's a bit long, but I hope it's helpful! Good luck on your project, hope you share updates as you move through. We are now crossing our fingers that we move in this September (there have been some delays that were related to things I cannot blame my architect or general contractor for). My timeline: closed on the lot in November 2016, picked an architect in December, signed the agreement in January 2017, finalized design in June, picked a general contractor in July, started clearing the lot in September 2017, | forget about questions for the architect. If you dont show ownership of land, property survey and proof of funds. Im not going to take you seriously and we can end right there. Make sure you have your ducks in a row and a budget in mind. The architect is on your team if you wont tell me your budget, im also not going to take you serious and we are done. | 1 | 36,445 | -2 | ||
8p0py8 | architecture_train | 1 | [ask]Looking to hire an architect. What are some questions I should be asking? My wife and I are about to start interviewing architects to design our house. What are some questions we should be asking? For some context we are looking for a main house, pool, and guest house/pool house/mother-in-law house. We are looking to build on a little over a half acre. | e07ubva | e07i6xd | 1,528,304,196 | 1,528,293,520 | 2 | 1 | Ask about what they have done in the past, their ways of working and preferred scope of services. Have they worked in this area and with this local authority before, do they know contractors etc. Ask how the fee structure could work and ask about timescales. But mostly get a feel for how you would get on with them. | Recently came across a podcast by an Australian architect specializing in residential. There's a decent sized range of topics that include helping people out in your position. Might help out. Here's the link if you want to check it out: https://undercoverarchitect.com/podcast/ | 1 | 10,676 | 2 | ||
8p0py8 | architecture_train | 1 | [ask]Looking to hire an architect. What are some questions I should be asking? My wife and I are about to start interviewing architects to design our house. What are some questions we should be asking? For some context we are looking for a main house, pool, and guest house/pool house/mother-in-law house. We are looking to build on a little over a half acre. | e07idae | e07ubva | 1,528,293,698 | 1,528,304,196 | 0 | 2 | I would say to ask to see his portfolio. See what kinds of things he’s done in the past, in order to get a vibe for his kind of design work. Every architect has his own style and it’s sometimes hard to get him to change it if you don’t like it. On the other hand, if you do like what he’s done in the past, let him know and then you can help him further visualize what it is you want. | Ask about what they have done in the past, their ways of working and preferred scope of services. Have they worked in this area and with this local authority before, do they know contractors etc. Ask how the fee structure could work and ask about timescales. But mostly get a feel for how you would get on with them. | 0 | 10,498 | 2,000 | ||
8p0py8 | architecture_train | 1 | [ask]Looking to hire an architect. What are some questions I should be asking? My wife and I are about to start interviewing architects to design our house. What are some questions we should be asking? For some context we are looking for a main house, pool, and guest house/pool house/mother-in-law house. We are looking to build on a little over a half acre. | e07ubva | e07nvai | 1,528,304,196 | 1,528,298,683 | 2 | -5 | Ask about what they have done in the past, their ways of working and preferred scope of services. Have they worked in this area and with this local authority before, do they know contractors etc. Ask how the fee structure could work and ask about timescales. But mostly get a feel for how you would get on with them. | forget about questions for the architect. If you dont show ownership of land, property survey and proof of funds. Im not going to take you seriously and we can end right there. Make sure you have your ducks in a row and a budget in mind. The architect is on your team if you wont tell me your budget, im also not going to take you serious and we are done. | 1 | 5,513 | -0.4 | ||
8p0py8 | architecture_train | 1 | [ask]Looking to hire an architect. What are some questions I should be asking? My wife and I are about to start interviewing architects to design our house. What are some questions we should be asking? For some context we are looking for a main house, pool, and guest house/pool house/mother-in-law house. We are looking to build on a little over a half acre. | e07i6xd | e08848j | 1,528,293,520 | 1,528,315,990 | 1 | 2 | Recently came across a podcast by an Australian architect specializing in residential. There's a decent sized range of topics that include helping people out in your position. Might help out. Here's the link if you want to check it out: https://undercoverarchitect.com/podcast/ | Boston Society of Architects has a webpage/printed material to answer questions similar to this. Although the directory is strictly Massachusetts Architects the content is geared towards homeowners starting a project. https://www.homeownersprojecthandbook.com/ | 0 | 22,470 | 2 | ||
8p0py8 | architecture_train | 1 | [ask]Looking to hire an architect. What are some questions I should be asking? My wife and I are about to start interviewing architects to design our house. What are some questions we should be asking? For some context we are looking for a main house, pool, and guest house/pool house/mother-in-law house. We are looking to build on a little over a half acre. | e07idae | e08848j | 1,528,293,698 | 1,528,315,990 | 0 | 2 | I would say to ask to see his portfolio. See what kinds of things he’s done in the past, in order to get a vibe for his kind of design work. Every architect has his own style and it’s sometimes hard to get him to change it if you don’t like it. On the other hand, if you do like what he’s done in the past, let him know and then you can help him further visualize what it is you want. | Boston Society of Architects has a webpage/printed material to answer questions similar to this. Although the directory is strictly Massachusetts Architects the content is geared towards homeowners starting a project. https://www.homeownersprojecthandbook.com/ | 0 | 22,292 | 2,000 | ||
8p0py8 | architecture_train | 1 | [ask]Looking to hire an architect. What are some questions I should be asking? My wife and I are about to start interviewing architects to design our house. What are some questions we should be asking? For some context we are looking for a main house, pool, and guest house/pool house/mother-in-law house. We are looking to build on a little over a half acre. | e08848j | e07nvai | 1,528,315,990 | 1,528,298,683 | 2 | -5 | Boston Society of Architects has a webpage/printed material to answer questions similar to this. Although the directory is strictly Massachusetts Architects the content is geared towards homeowners starting a project. https://www.homeownersprojecthandbook.com/ | forget about questions for the architect. If you dont show ownership of land, property survey and proof of funds. Im not going to take you seriously and we can end right there. Make sure you have your ducks in a row and a budget in mind. The architect is on your team if you wont tell me your budget, im also not going to take you serious and we are done. | 1 | 17,307 | -0.4 | ||
ai2n7g | architecture_train | 1 | As an architect wanting to enhance your set of tools; would you do an MBA, or a more technically-specific Masters that would be more related to Design? If the later, what would you recommend? Is it worthy to get an MBA as an architect? [Ask] Thanks! | eemjvt8 | eelf0x0 | 1,548,089,237 | 1,548,042,445 | 2 | 1 | You don't need an MBA to start your own firm. An MBA is a waste of time and money. If you already have a professional architecture degree, then you should focus on gaining practical experience by working for someone else. | Do you want to start your own firm? | 1 | 46,792 | 2 | ||
ai2n7g | architecture_train | 1 | As an architect wanting to enhance your set of tools; would you do an MBA, or a more technically-specific Masters that would be more related to Design? If the later, what would you recommend? Is it worthy to get an MBA as an architect? [Ask] Thanks! | eemjvt8 | eem7cm2 | 1,548,089,237 | 1,548,079,315 | 2 | 1 | You don't need an MBA to start your own firm. An MBA is a waste of time and money. If you already have a professional architecture degree, then you should focus on gaining practical experience by working for someone else. | If you want to run your own firm, the MBA for sure. If you don't have a professional degree yet, do that (and double major the MBA if you want to run your own firm). | 1 | 9,922 | 2 | ||
ceeo9t | architecture_train | 0.89 | [ask] Side hustles for Architects, Designers, Engineers, etc. I currently work a 9 to 5, as a junior Architect, in the Philadelphia area. I get payed pretty decently but have been thinking of viable ways to make money on the side. I have been looking for weeknight, weekends and work from home drafting or designing positions but have not had any luck. What are some ways you found these side hustles? | eu297u5 | eu224ca | 1,563,385,062 | 1,563,380,647 | 5 | 1 | Bartend. Doing your day job as a moonlighting gig sucks and is a good way to burn out. | Are you licensed? | 1 | 4,415 | 5 | ||
xcayor | architecture_train | 0.82 | Architecture and Interior design salaries are a joke.. Hello everyone , I want to ask you few questions about Architecture and Interior design First question : is it possible to do both? if for example I go for architecture degree Second question : why is Architecture low paid when they start after a 4years+ of studying , its okay to start low but from what I have seen in my country the salary is super low like minimum paid . Third question : as an Architect and Interior designer together what is the money cap? Fourth question : Freelancers architects how much do you charge for a project included with interior design ? I'm asking those questions because I can't decide between two careers that I like Business Administration(using it for Tech sales or something like that) or Architecture degree Money also plays a big role for my career since I like both Architecture and Sales which field as higher money cap? | io4ewdt | io5f49m | 1,662,990,530 | 1,663,005,157 | 6 | 12 | Go into construction | Architecture used to be known as a ‘gentleman’s profession,’ meaning it paid so poorly that you needed to be well-off to afford to go into it. I don’t think people use this term anymore, but it still holds a lot of truth. | 0 | 14,627 | 2 | ||
xcayor | architecture_train | 0.82 | Architecture and Interior design salaries are a joke.. Hello everyone , I want to ask you few questions about Architecture and Interior design First question : is it possible to do both? if for example I go for architecture degree Second question : why is Architecture low paid when they start after a 4years+ of studying , its okay to start low but from what I have seen in my country the salary is super low like minimum paid . Third question : as an Architect and Interior designer together what is the money cap? Fourth question : Freelancers architects how much do you charge for a project included with interior design ? I'm asking those questions because I can't decide between two careers that I like Business Administration(using it for Tech sales or something like that) or Architecture degree Money also plays a big role for my career since I like both Architecture and Sales which field as higher money cap? | io5f49m | io58qa5 | 1,663,005,157 | 1,663,002,655 | 12 | 4 | Architecture used to be known as a ‘gentleman’s profession,’ meaning it paid so poorly that you needed to be well-off to afford to go into it. I don’t think people use this term anymore, but it still holds a lot of truth. | Not all jobs which require a college degree will equal high pay and or a rewarding career. That is not what the high priests of the college industrial complex nor the college sales people tell you. This is not new, Its always been this way. It is also the prime reason so many people have high college debts. If money is your prime motivator, you need to seek out those fewer areas which pay off big. Keep in mind much of everyone's lives are kept afloat by many who are both under paid and under valued. | 1 | 2,502 | 3 | ||
xcayor | architecture_train | 0.82 | Architecture and Interior design salaries are a joke.. Hello everyone , I want to ask you few questions about Architecture and Interior design First question : is it possible to do both? if for example I go for architecture degree Second question : why is Architecture low paid when they start after a 4years+ of studying , its okay to start low but from what I have seen in my country the salary is super low like minimum paid . Third question : as an Architect and Interior designer together what is the money cap? Fourth question : Freelancers architects how much do you charge for a project included with interior design ? I'm asking those questions because I can't decide between two careers that I like Business Administration(using it for Tech sales or something like that) or Architecture degree Money also plays a big role for my career since I like both Architecture and Sales which field as higher money cap? | io7idex | io6zyup | 1,663,036,956 | 1,663,028,959 | 3 | 1 | Because architecture isnt a poor mans career. 5-6 years of school, then 2-3 years of interning, and lasty your licensure exams; all of which your boss/teacher expects you to work 40+ hours a week. Screw people who have family, lives, a job, or can't afford school. We are simply being outbid by people who can afford these privileges. Architects want regular people to view them as important figures in their communities and they will insure only those who are privileged can become architects. But thats just my two cents on why we are being underpaid. | You could work in a dialysis clinic they make tons of bucks | 1 | 7,997 | 3 | ||
xcayor | architecture_train | 0.82 | Architecture and Interior design salaries are a joke.. Hello everyone , I want to ask you few questions about Architecture and Interior design First question : is it possible to do both? if for example I go for architecture degree Second question : why is Architecture low paid when they start after a 4years+ of studying , its okay to start low but from what I have seen in my country the salary is super low like minimum paid . Third question : as an Architect and Interior designer together what is the money cap? Fourth question : Freelancers architects how much do you charge for a project included with interior design ? I'm asking those questions because I can't decide between two careers that I like Business Administration(using it for Tech sales or something like that) or Architecture degree Money also plays a big role for my career since I like both Architecture and Sales which field as higher money cap? | io6zyup | io7u586 | 1,663,028,959 | 1,663,042,771 | 1 | 3 | You could work in a dialysis clinic they make tons of bucks | If you want to make money as an architect, plan on being a partner or owning your own studio. It’s not easy work. At times it can be a grind. However, it’s very gratifying to visit the spaces that you designed, create long term friendships with clients, get published, win awards, travel to design shows, occasionally speak, maybe teach a studio class, etc…. I don’t see people in sales having those types of opportunities. | 0 | 13,812 | 3 | ||
w4gcg9 | architecture_train | 0.86 | How do you deal with engineer judgment? Everytime I talk with an engineer or construction worker, they always tell me they could've done the drawing better or it is too slow, or just don't appreciate your work. Some bigger architects have the respect, but fresh architects are looked down on. But they also don't see the bigger picture and are observing everything only from practical point of view. Just wanted to know everyone else's experiences. | ih29ftg | ih1pgws | 1,658,417,737 | 1,658,409,692 | 142 | 74 | This is a problem with how you are taught in school that has carried over. In school you are taught to make ‘beautiful images’ out of drawings. You make renderings and painstakingly arrange them on pages for presentation. You don’t note or keynote or dimension things much. They tell you ‘the software will do that’ when you are out and starting real production drawings. They are wrong. So here are some things to think about: 1. The software doesn’t work to make good drawings. Revit, AutoCAD, Archicad. It doesn’t matter they all suck out-of-the box. Learn to tweak drawings, view settings and lineweights. I can tell when I get ‘Revity ’ drawings from another architect. They usually don’t have good line-weights, dimensions and fire ratings info is non existent. You need all those and more for good drawings. 2. Just because you can model it doesn’t make it buildable. Think about how you are going to build that funky shape. How do you build up blocking? What is the spacing? What’s the tolerance for Mis-aligned sheathing? How do you finish the Sheetrock in an angled corner or pocket? How will they pour that concrete? 3. PRINT your drawings for redlines. Most GCs could care less about a model, you need to see this from their perspective to ensure you are giving them what they need to build a set. 4. Redline your own work first. Ask yourself: Is it dimensioned? Can I tell the lineweight difference between walls and built objects and the notations? Will that hatch show-up when the drawing is printed or copied? Have I defined all the symbols somewhere? 5. Read all the notes. Every. Single. One. In fact take a day or two between printing and reading to catch more mistakes. Do they make sense? Are they prescriptive and brief? Do they refer to a spec or define a product If needed? 6. Know your products and details. And if you don’t know look it up. Did you match the install info and size for that toilet paper dispenser? Is it in the correct place? Do you have the correct built-up for the roof? Does it match what is required by code AND the manufacturer AND factory mutual (FM) so it can carry a warranty? Can we do that with storefront framing? 7. Ask. If you have an Engineer you’re working with or a GC (or a trusted GC buddy) call them and ask what the best way to show something is or how they would prefer to build or do something. Make them part of your design team. This is a group effort after all. Same goes for code officials. Call them, talk to them, get to know them. 8. You don’t know better so quit acting like you do. Attitude is a huge problem in our industry. Architects are usually smart, uncompromising people. So are GCs. So are Engineers. You need to check the ego, consider them equal and speak like it. That also goes for talking to the tradesman and laborers on-site. It doesn’t matter that he doesn’t have a degree; he knows more about his job than you and probably makes more money. Everyone involved deserves respect so give it to them. 9. There are times you will need to be firm and uncompromising and not let the GC walk on you. Not every issue is that time. It’ll take patience and experience to know when that is. When in doubt keep quiet and listen before speaking. 10. Have them give you sets or drawings they prefer and copy what that architect did to make a good drawing. Take it apart and give yourself some standards and rules. 11. Follow industry standards. Standards are there to make your life easier. Page numbering, drawing layout, layer naming, etc. are easier if you go with the flow. And If your firm doesn’t have standards it needs them. Anybody in the office should be able to pickup a project done by someone else and finish it or figure out what is going on and standards are the key to that. And That includes file naming, folder structure, binders, etc. 12.Find a good respected mentor to teach you how to do good details and sections. Or several for all areas. Then buy them some bourbon when they save your tail down the line. Finally, You are going to make mistakes. You’re going to cost yourself and your client money at some point. You’ll have GCs yell at you. You’ll fight about change orders. Get calls about rotting window sills and door headers. It’s going to happen. The drawings are never perfect and you’ll always be learning so embrace that and make peace with it. | Find out why they are saying this and learn from them so your drawings get better over time. That's how you will earn their respect. | 1 | 8,045 | 1.918919 | ||
w4gcg9 | architecture_train | 0.86 | How do you deal with engineer judgment? Everytime I talk with an engineer or construction worker, they always tell me they could've done the drawing better or it is too slow, or just don't appreciate your work. Some bigger architects have the respect, but fresh architects are looked down on. But they also don't see the bigger picture and are observing everything only from practical point of view. Just wanted to know everyone else's experiences. | ih1xpac | ih29ftg | 1,658,413,195 | 1,658,417,737 | 73 | 142 | >are observing everything only from practical point of view. That's literally their job. | This is a problem with how you are taught in school that has carried over. In school you are taught to make ‘beautiful images’ out of drawings. You make renderings and painstakingly arrange them on pages for presentation. You don’t note or keynote or dimension things much. They tell you ‘the software will do that’ when you are out and starting real production drawings. They are wrong. So here are some things to think about: 1. The software doesn’t work to make good drawings. Revit, AutoCAD, Archicad. It doesn’t matter they all suck out-of-the box. Learn to tweak drawings, view settings and lineweights. I can tell when I get ‘Revity ’ drawings from another architect. They usually don’t have good line-weights, dimensions and fire ratings info is non existent. You need all those and more for good drawings. 2. Just because you can model it doesn’t make it buildable. Think about how you are going to build that funky shape. How do you build up blocking? What is the spacing? What’s the tolerance for Mis-aligned sheathing? How do you finish the Sheetrock in an angled corner or pocket? How will they pour that concrete? 3. PRINT your drawings for redlines. Most GCs could care less about a model, you need to see this from their perspective to ensure you are giving them what they need to build a set. 4. Redline your own work first. Ask yourself: Is it dimensioned? Can I tell the lineweight difference between walls and built objects and the notations? Will that hatch show-up when the drawing is printed or copied? Have I defined all the symbols somewhere? 5. Read all the notes. Every. Single. One. In fact take a day or two between printing and reading to catch more mistakes. Do they make sense? Are they prescriptive and brief? Do they refer to a spec or define a product If needed? 6. Know your products and details. And if you don’t know look it up. Did you match the install info and size for that toilet paper dispenser? Is it in the correct place? Do you have the correct built-up for the roof? Does it match what is required by code AND the manufacturer AND factory mutual (FM) so it can carry a warranty? Can we do that with storefront framing? 7. Ask. If you have an Engineer you’re working with or a GC (or a trusted GC buddy) call them and ask what the best way to show something is or how they would prefer to build or do something. Make them part of your design team. This is a group effort after all. Same goes for code officials. Call them, talk to them, get to know them. 8. You don’t know better so quit acting like you do. Attitude is a huge problem in our industry. Architects are usually smart, uncompromising people. So are GCs. So are Engineers. You need to check the ego, consider them equal and speak like it. That also goes for talking to the tradesman and laborers on-site. It doesn’t matter that he doesn’t have a degree; he knows more about his job than you and probably makes more money. Everyone involved deserves respect so give it to them. 9. There are times you will need to be firm and uncompromising and not let the GC walk on you. Not every issue is that time. It’ll take patience and experience to know when that is. When in doubt keep quiet and listen before speaking. 10. Have them give you sets or drawings they prefer and copy what that architect did to make a good drawing. Take it apart and give yourself some standards and rules. 11. Follow industry standards. Standards are there to make your life easier. Page numbering, drawing layout, layer naming, etc. are easier if you go with the flow. And If your firm doesn’t have standards it needs them. Anybody in the office should be able to pickup a project done by someone else and finish it or figure out what is going on and standards are the key to that. And That includes file naming, folder structure, binders, etc. 12.Find a good respected mentor to teach you how to do good details and sections. Or several for all areas. Then buy them some bourbon when they save your tail down the line. Finally, You are going to make mistakes. You’re going to cost yourself and your client money at some point. You’ll have GCs yell at you. You’ll fight about change orders. Get calls about rotting window sills and door headers. It’s going to happen. The drawings are never perfect and you’ll always be learning so embrace that and make peace with it. | 0 | 4,542 | 1.945205 | ||
w4gcg9 | architecture_train | 0.86 | How do you deal with engineer judgment? Everytime I talk with an engineer or construction worker, they always tell me they could've done the drawing better or it is too slow, or just don't appreciate your work. Some bigger architects have the respect, but fresh architects are looked down on. But they also don't see the bigger picture and are observing everything only from practical point of view. Just wanted to know everyone else's experiences. | ih23sck | ih29ftg | 1,658,415,577 | 1,658,417,737 | 16 | 142 | you sound fairly fresh on the scene, and I'm guessing you work as part of a bigger team....so here's my advice: there's a lot of salty people in our industry bc many folks are underpaid and overlooked, there is a culture of pointing the finger between contractors & architects & other subs on site. Doing things faster / more efficiently is just one way in which people like to compare dick length. Just take a deep breath and try to understand that its not really about you, and more so a general frustration of the industry. This goes on on almost every single jobsite and it usually doesn't amount to much unless there is a serious fuck up. Small fuck ups are everyday routine. The best way to "level" with these guys is to call them on their bullshit (this would require you to understand something they messed up lol with which you can retort) and have a laugh about it. most construction workers are actually very friendly once you get past the initial gristle of jobsite bravura ;) | This is a problem with how you are taught in school that has carried over. In school you are taught to make ‘beautiful images’ out of drawings. You make renderings and painstakingly arrange them on pages for presentation. You don’t note or keynote or dimension things much. They tell you ‘the software will do that’ when you are out and starting real production drawings. They are wrong. So here are some things to think about: 1. The software doesn’t work to make good drawings. Revit, AutoCAD, Archicad. It doesn’t matter they all suck out-of-the box. Learn to tweak drawings, view settings and lineweights. I can tell when I get ‘Revity ’ drawings from another architect. They usually don’t have good line-weights, dimensions and fire ratings info is non existent. You need all those and more for good drawings. 2. Just because you can model it doesn’t make it buildable. Think about how you are going to build that funky shape. How do you build up blocking? What is the spacing? What’s the tolerance for Mis-aligned sheathing? How do you finish the Sheetrock in an angled corner or pocket? How will they pour that concrete? 3. PRINT your drawings for redlines. Most GCs could care less about a model, you need to see this from their perspective to ensure you are giving them what they need to build a set. 4. Redline your own work first. Ask yourself: Is it dimensioned? Can I tell the lineweight difference between walls and built objects and the notations? Will that hatch show-up when the drawing is printed or copied? Have I defined all the symbols somewhere? 5. Read all the notes. Every. Single. One. In fact take a day or two between printing and reading to catch more mistakes. Do they make sense? Are they prescriptive and brief? Do they refer to a spec or define a product If needed? 6. Know your products and details. And if you don’t know look it up. Did you match the install info and size for that toilet paper dispenser? Is it in the correct place? Do you have the correct built-up for the roof? Does it match what is required by code AND the manufacturer AND factory mutual (FM) so it can carry a warranty? Can we do that with storefront framing? 7. Ask. If you have an Engineer you’re working with or a GC (or a trusted GC buddy) call them and ask what the best way to show something is or how they would prefer to build or do something. Make them part of your design team. This is a group effort after all. Same goes for code officials. Call them, talk to them, get to know them. 8. You don’t know better so quit acting like you do. Attitude is a huge problem in our industry. Architects are usually smart, uncompromising people. So are GCs. So are Engineers. You need to check the ego, consider them equal and speak like it. That also goes for talking to the tradesman and laborers on-site. It doesn’t matter that he doesn’t have a degree; he knows more about his job than you and probably makes more money. Everyone involved deserves respect so give it to them. 9. There are times you will need to be firm and uncompromising and not let the GC walk on you. Not every issue is that time. It’ll take patience and experience to know when that is. When in doubt keep quiet and listen before speaking. 10. Have them give you sets or drawings they prefer and copy what that architect did to make a good drawing. Take it apart and give yourself some standards and rules. 11. Follow industry standards. Standards are there to make your life easier. Page numbering, drawing layout, layer naming, etc. are easier if you go with the flow. And If your firm doesn’t have standards it needs them. Anybody in the office should be able to pickup a project done by someone else and finish it or figure out what is going on and standards are the key to that. And That includes file naming, folder structure, binders, etc. 12.Find a good respected mentor to teach you how to do good details and sections. Or several for all areas. Then buy them some bourbon when they save your tail down the line. Finally, You are going to make mistakes. You’re going to cost yourself and your client money at some point. You’ll have GCs yell at you. You’ll fight about change orders. Get calls about rotting window sills and door headers. It’s going to happen. The drawings are never perfect and you’ll always be learning so embrace that and make peace with it. | 0 | 2,160 | 8.875 | ||
w4gcg9 | architecture_train | 0.86 | How do you deal with engineer judgment? Everytime I talk with an engineer or construction worker, they always tell me they could've done the drawing better or it is too slow, or just don't appreciate your work. Some bigger architects have the respect, but fresh architects are looked down on. But they also don't see the bigger picture and are observing everything only from practical point of view. Just wanted to know everyone else's experiences. | ih29ftg | ih1wve3 | 1,658,417,737 | 1,658,412,856 | 142 | 14 | This is a problem with how you are taught in school that has carried over. In school you are taught to make ‘beautiful images’ out of drawings. You make renderings and painstakingly arrange them on pages for presentation. You don’t note or keynote or dimension things much. They tell you ‘the software will do that’ when you are out and starting real production drawings. They are wrong. So here are some things to think about: 1. The software doesn’t work to make good drawings. Revit, AutoCAD, Archicad. It doesn’t matter they all suck out-of-the box. Learn to tweak drawings, view settings and lineweights. I can tell when I get ‘Revity ’ drawings from another architect. They usually don’t have good line-weights, dimensions and fire ratings info is non existent. You need all those and more for good drawings. 2. Just because you can model it doesn’t make it buildable. Think about how you are going to build that funky shape. How do you build up blocking? What is the spacing? What’s the tolerance for Mis-aligned sheathing? How do you finish the Sheetrock in an angled corner or pocket? How will they pour that concrete? 3. PRINT your drawings for redlines. Most GCs could care less about a model, you need to see this from their perspective to ensure you are giving them what they need to build a set. 4. Redline your own work first. Ask yourself: Is it dimensioned? Can I tell the lineweight difference between walls and built objects and the notations? Will that hatch show-up when the drawing is printed or copied? Have I defined all the symbols somewhere? 5. Read all the notes. Every. Single. One. In fact take a day or two between printing and reading to catch more mistakes. Do they make sense? Are they prescriptive and brief? Do they refer to a spec or define a product If needed? 6. Know your products and details. And if you don’t know look it up. Did you match the install info and size for that toilet paper dispenser? Is it in the correct place? Do you have the correct built-up for the roof? Does it match what is required by code AND the manufacturer AND factory mutual (FM) so it can carry a warranty? Can we do that with storefront framing? 7. Ask. If you have an Engineer you’re working with or a GC (or a trusted GC buddy) call them and ask what the best way to show something is or how they would prefer to build or do something. Make them part of your design team. This is a group effort after all. Same goes for code officials. Call them, talk to them, get to know them. 8. You don’t know better so quit acting like you do. Attitude is a huge problem in our industry. Architects are usually smart, uncompromising people. So are GCs. So are Engineers. You need to check the ego, consider them equal and speak like it. That also goes for talking to the tradesman and laborers on-site. It doesn’t matter that he doesn’t have a degree; he knows more about his job than you and probably makes more money. Everyone involved deserves respect so give it to them. 9. There are times you will need to be firm and uncompromising and not let the GC walk on you. Not every issue is that time. It’ll take patience and experience to know when that is. When in doubt keep quiet and listen before speaking. 10. Have them give you sets or drawings they prefer and copy what that architect did to make a good drawing. Take it apart and give yourself some standards and rules. 11. Follow industry standards. Standards are there to make your life easier. Page numbering, drawing layout, layer naming, etc. are easier if you go with the flow. And If your firm doesn’t have standards it needs them. Anybody in the office should be able to pickup a project done by someone else and finish it or figure out what is going on and standards are the key to that. And That includes file naming, folder structure, binders, etc. 12.Find a good respected mentor to teach you how to do good details and sections. Or several for all areas. Then buy them some bourbon when they save your tail down the line. Finally, You are going to make mistakes. You’re going to cost yourself and your client money at some point. You’ll have GCs yell at you. You’ll fight about change orders. Get calls about rotting window sills and door headers. It’s going to happen. The drawings are never perfect and you’ll always be learning so embrace that and make peace with it. | I’ve never experienced this in my 15 years in the industry. Can you provide a little more specific information? Is this you casually discussing work with someone that is not directly related to the project? Are you a newly licensed architect running their own projects and getting criticism from the consultants or general contractor / sub contractors on the project? Maybe understanding the relationship between you and the people providing the criticism would help me understand the scenario you are explaining. What do you mean by “it is too slow” - are they stating that you’re taking too long to design and detail the project at hand? “Don’t appreciate your work” - I mean, I don’t ask other trades if they appreciate what I do. I do my job because it’s my job, and if they don’t appreciate it then oh well? Once again - can you explain what you mean here? I guess I’m a little lost trying to understand your experience here. Depending on who these individuals are and how they are related to the project at hand either 1) you need to stand your ground as the licensed architect who is going the project and continue to present yourself with authority (this is me making the assumption that you’re the licensed architect, not just part of the project team…if you’re new to the industry you may need to do more listening) or 2) you need to brush off criticism from those who have no actual authority or association with the project and choose different people to look for feedback from. Side note: I’ve worked for an architect, a landscape architect, a sub-contractor doing engineering drawings, and I’ve done civil engineering work. I will tell you - every different branch of the industry talks smack about the other branches because everyone thinks that their way of doing things is better than anyone else. If this is where your problem lies then you just need to listen to things that sound reasonable and would make the whole project flow better for everyone involved, brush off criticism that is just opinion with no real credibility, and make sure you never stop trying to improve your design skills and drawing clarity/accuracy. | 1 | 4,881 | 10.142857 | ||
w4gcg9 | architecture_train | 0.86 | How do you deal with engineer judgment? Everytime I talk with an engineer or construction worker, they always tell me they could've done the drawing better or it is too slow, or just don't appreciate your work. Some bigger architects have the respect, but fresh architects are looked down on. But they also don't see the bigger picture and are observing everything only from practical point of view. Just wanted to know everyone else's experiences. | ih29ftg | ih1u0x7 | 1,658,417,737 | 1,658,411,672 | 142 | 10 | This is a problem with how you are taught in school that has carried over. In school you are taught to make ‘beautiful images’ out of drawings. You make renderings and painstakingly arrange them on pages for presentation. You don’t note or keynote or dimension things much. They tell you ‘the software will do that’ when you are out and starting real production drawings. They are wrong. So here are some things to think about: 1. The software doesn’t work to make good drawings. Revit, AutoCAD, Archicad. It doesn’t matter they all suck out-of-the box. Learn to tweak drawings, view settings and lineweights. I can tell when I get ‘Revity ’ drawings from another architect. They usually don’t have good line-weights, dimensions and fire ratings info is non existent. You need all those and more for good drawings. 2. Just because you can model it doesn’t make it buildable. Think about how you are going to build that funky shape. How do you build up blocking? What is the spacing? What’s the tolerance for Mis-aligned sheathing? How do you finish the Sheetrock in an angled corner or pocket? How will they pour that concrete? 3. PRINT your drawings for redlines. Most GCs could care less about a model, you need to see this from their perspective to ensure you are giving them what they need to build a set. 4. Redline your own work first. Ask yourself: Is it dimensioned? Can I tell the lineweight difference between walls and built objects and the notations? Will that hatch show-up when the drawing is printed or copied? Have I defined all the symbols somewhere? 5. Read all the notes. Every. Single. One. In fact take a day or two between printing and reading to catch more mistakes. Do they make sense? Are they prescriptive and brief? Do they refer to a spec or define a product If needed? 6. Know your products and details. And if you don’t know look it up. Did you match the install info and size for that toilet paper dispenser? Is it in the correct place? Do you have the correct built-up for the roof? Does it match what is required by code AND the manufacturer AND factory mutual (FM) so it can carry a warranty? Can we do that with storefront framing? 7. Ask. If you have an Engineer you’re working with or a GC (or a trusted GC buddy) call them and ask what the best way to show something is or how they would prefer to build or do something. Make them part of your design team. This is a group effort after all. Same goes for code officials. Call them, talk to them, get to know them. 8. You don’t know better so quit acting like you do. Attitude is a huge problem in our industry. Architects are usually smart, uncompromising people. So are GCs. So are Engineers. You need to check the ego, consider them equal and speak like it. That also goes for talking to the tradesman and laborers on-site. It doesn’t matter that he doesn’t have a degree; he knows more about his job than you and probably makes more money. Everyone involved deserves respect so give it to them. 9. There are times you will need to be firm and uncompromising and not let the GC walk on you. Not every issue is that time. It’ll take patience and experience to know when that is. When in doubt keep quiet and listen before speaking. 10. Have them give you sets or drawings they prefer and copy what that architect did to make a good drawing. Take it apart and give yourself some standards and rules. 11. Follow industry standards. Standards are there to make your life easier. Page numbering, drawing layout, layer naming, etc. are easier if you go with the flow. And If your firm doesn’t have standards it needs them. Anybody in the office should be able to pickup a project done by someone else and finish it or figure out what is going on and standards are the key to that. And That includes file naming, folder structure, binders, etc. 12.Find a good respected mentor to teach you how to do good details and sections. Or several for all areas. Then buy them some bourbon when they save your tail down the line. Finally, You are going to make mistakes. You’re going to cost yourself and your client money at some point. You’ll have GCs yell at you. You’ll fight about change orders. Get calls about rotting window sills and door headers. It’s going to happen. The drawings are never perfect and you’ll always be learning so embrace that and make peace with it. | Have you ever thought about taking their feedback and thinking critically about your work and it's applicability | 1 | 6,065 | 14.2 | ||
w4gcg9 | architecture_train | 0.86 | How do you deal with engineer judgment? Everytime I talk with an engineer or construction worker, they always tell me they could've done the drawing better or it is too slow, or just don't appreciate your work. Some bigger architects have the respect, but fresh architects are looked down on. But they also don't see the bigger picture and are observing everything only from practical point of view. Just wanted to know everyone else's experiences. | ih20fdg | ih29ftg | 1,658,414,278 | 1,658,417,737 | 9 | 142 | Too often in architecture school you are taught to be arrogant by an arrogant “architect”. Maybe the engineers and construction workers understand something you don’t. And they are worried about other things than what you are | This is a problem with how you are taught in school that has carried over. In school you are taught to make ‘beautiful images’ out of drawings. You make renderings and painstakingly arrange them on pages for presentation. You don’t note or keynote or dimension things much. They tell you ‘the software will do that’ when you are out and starting real production drawings. They are wrong. So here are some things to think about: 1. The software doesn’t work to make good drawings. Revit, AutoCAD, Archicad. It doesn’t matter they all suck out-of-the box. Learn to tweak drawings, view settings and lineweights. I can tell when I get ‘Revity ’ drawings from another architect. They usually don’t have good line-weights, dimensions and fire ratings info is non existent. You need all those and more for good drawings. 2. Just because you can model it doesn’t make it buildable. Think about how you are going to build that funky shape. How do you build up blocking? What is the spacing? What’s the tolerance for Mis-aligned sheathing? How do you finish the Sheetrock in an angled corner or pocket? How will they pour that concrete? 3. PRINT your drawings for redlines. Most GCs could care less about a model, you need to see this from their perspective to ensure you are giving them what they need to build a set. 4. Redline your own work first. Ask yourself: Is it dimensioned? Can I tell the lineweight difference between walls and built objects and the notations? Will that hatch show-up when the drawing is printed or copied? Have I defined all the symbols somewhere? 5. Read all the notes. Every. Single. One. In fact take a day or two between printing and reading to catch more mistakes. Do they make sense? Are they prescriptive and brief? Do they refer to a spec or define a product If needed? 6. Know your products and details. And if you don’t know look it up. Did you match the install info and size for that toilet paper dispenser? Is it in the correct place? Do you have the correct built-up for the roof? Does it match what is required by code AND the manufacturer AND factory mutual (FM) so it can carry a warranty? Can we do that with storefront framing? 7. Ask. If you have an Engineer you’re working with or a GC (or a trusted GC buddy) call them and ask what the best way to show something is or how they would prefer to build or do something. Make them part of your design team. This is a group effort after all. Same goes for code officials. Call them, talk to them, get to know them. 8. You don’t know better so quit acting like you do. Attitude is a huge problem in our industry. Architects are usually smart, uncompromising people. So are GCs. So are Engineers. You need to check the ego, consider them equal and speak like it. That also goes for talking to the tradesman and laborers on-site. It doesn’t matter that he doesn’t have a degree; he knows more about his job than you and probably makes more money. Everyone involved deserves respect so give it to them. 9. There are times you will need to be firm and uncompromising and not let the GC walk on you. Not every issue is that time. It’ll take patience and experience to know when that is. When in doubt keep quiet and listen before speaking. 10. Have them give you sets or drawings they prefer and copy what that architect did to make a good drawing. Take it apart and give yourself some standards and rules. 11. Follow industry standards. Standards are there to make your life easier. Page numbering, drawing layout, layer naming, etc. are easier if you go with the flow. And If your firm doesn’t have standards it needs them. Anybody in the office should be able to pickup a project done by someone else and finish it or figure out what is going on and standards are the key to that. And That includes file naming, folder structure, binders, etc. 12.Find a good respected mentor to teach you how to do good details and sections. Or several for all areas. Then buy them some bourbon when they save your tail down the line. Finally, You are going to make mistakes. You’re going to cost yourself and your client money at some point. You’ll have GCs yell at you. You’ll fight about change orders. Get calls about rotting window sills and door headers. It’s going to happen. The drawings are never perfect and you’ll always be learning so embrace that and make peace with it. | 0 | 3,459 | 15.777778 | ||
w4gcg9 | architecture_train | 0.86 | How do you deal with engineer judgment? Everytime I talk with an engineer or construction worker, they always tell me they could've done the drawing better or it is too slow, or just don't appreciate your work. Some bigger architects have the respect, but fresh architects are looked down on. But they also don't see the bigger picture and are observing everything only from practical point of view. Just wanted to know everyone else's experiences. | ih1vxhl | ih29ftg | 1,658,412,468 | 1,658,417,737 | 6 | 142 | Because RFI requests are slow, helps if the drawings are comprehensive when I first see them and hopefully only spend an hour or two budgeting my subcontractor’s portion of the project. Take it as feedback on how to improve your drawings and then you will start having your drawings being respected. Small details are important. | This is a problem with how you are taught in school that has carried over. In school you are taught to make ‘beautiful images’ out of drawings. You make renderings and painstakingly arrange them on pages for presentation. You don’t note or keynote or dimension things much. They tell you ‘the software will do that’ when you are out and starting real production drawings. They are wrong. So here are some things to think about: 1. The software doesn’t work to make good drawings. Revit, AutoCAD, Archicad. It doesn’t matter they all suck out-of-the box. Learn to tweak drawings, view settings and lineweights. I can tell when I get ‘Revity ’ drawings from another architect. They usually don’t have good line-weights, dimensions and fire ratings info is non existent. You need all those and more for good drawings. 2. Just because you can model it doesn’t make it buildable. Think about how you are going to build that funky shape. How do you build up blocking? What is the spacing? What’s the tolerance for Mis-aligned sheathing? How do you finish the Sheetrock in an angled corner or pocket? How will they pour that concrete? 3. PRINT your drawings for redlines. Most GCs could care less about a model, you need to see this from their perspective to ensure you are giving them what they need to build a set. 4. Redline your own work first. Ask yourself: Is it dimensioned? Can I tell the lineweight difference between walls and built objects and the notations? Will that hatch show-up when the drawing is printed or copied? Have I defined all the symbols somewhere? 5. Read all the notes. Every. Single. One. In fact take a day or two between printing and reading to catch more mistakes. Do they make sense? Are they prescriptive and brief? Do they refer to a spec or define a product If needed? 6. Know your products and details. And if you don’t know look it up. Did you match the install info and size for that toilet paper dispenser? Is it in the correct place? Do you have the correct built-up for the roof? Does it match what is required by code AND the manufacturer AND factory mutual (FM) so it can carry a warranty? Can we do that with storefront framing? 7. Ask. If you have an Engineer you’re working with or a GC (or a trusted GC buddy) call them and ask what the best way to show something is or how they would prefer to build or do something. Make them part of your design team. This is a group effort after all. Same goes for code officials. Call them, talk to them, get to know them. 8. You don’t know better so quit acting like you do. Attitude is a huge problem in our industry. Architects are usually smart, uncompromising people. So are GCs. So are Engineers. You need to check the ego, consider them equal and speak like it. That also goes for talking to the tradesman and laborers on-site. It doesn’t matter that he doesn’t have a degree; he knows more about his job than you and probably makes more money. Everyone involved deserves respect so give it to them. 9. There are times you will need to be firm and uncompromising and not let the GC walk on you. Not every issue is that time. It’ll take patience and experience to know when that is. When in doubt keep quiet and listen before speaking. 10. Have them give you sets or drawings they prefer and copy what that architect did to make a good drawing. Take it apart and give yourself some standards and rules. 11. Follow industry standards. Standards are there to make your life easier. Page numbering, drawing layout, layer naming, etc. are easier if you go with the flow. And If your firm doesn’t have standards it needs them. Anybody in the office should be able to pickup a project done by someone else and finish it or figure out what is going on and standards are the key to that. And That includes file naming, folder structure, binders, etc. 12.Find a good respected mentor to teach you how to do good details and sections. Or several for all areas. Then buy them some bourbon when they save your tail down the line. Finally, You are going to make mistakes. You’re going to cost yourself and your client money at some point. You’ll have GCs yell at you. You’ll fight about change orders. Get calls about rotting window sills and door headers. It’s going to happen. The drawings are never perfect and you’ll always be learning so embrace that and make peace with it. | 0 | 5,269 | 23.666667 | ||
w4gcg9 | architecture_train | 0.86 | How do you deal with engineer judgment? Everytime I talk with an engineer or construction worker, they always tell me they could've done the drawing better or it is too slow, or just don't appreciate your work. Some bigger architects have the respect, but fresh architects are looked down on. But they also don't see the bigger picture and are observing everything only from practical point of view. Just wanted to know everyone else's experiences. | ih29ftg | ih1zv03 | 1,658,417,737 | 1,658,414,053 | 142 | 5 | This is a problem with how you are taught in school that has carried over. In school you are taught to make ‘beautiful images’ out of drawings. You make renderings and painstakingly arrange them on pages for presentation. You don’t note or keynote or dimension things much. They tell you ‘the software will do that’ when you are out and starting real production drawings. They are wrong. So here are some things to think about: 1. The software doesn’t work to make good drawings. Revit, AutoCAD, Archicad. It doesn’t matter they all suck out-of-the box. Learn to tweak drawings, view settings and lineweights. I can tell when I get ‘Revity ’ drawings from another architect. They usually don’t have good line-weights, dimensions and fire ratings info is non existent. You need all those and more for good drawings. 2. Just because you can model it doesn’t make it buildable. Think about how you are going to build that funky shape. How do you build up blocking? What is the spacing? What’s the tolerance for Mis-aligned sheathing? How do you finish the Sheetrock in an angled corner or pocket? How will they pour that concrete? 3. PRINT your drawings for redlines. Most GCs could care less about a model, you need to see this from their perspective to ensure you are giving them what they need to build a set. 4. Redline your own work first. Ask yourself: Is it dimensioned? Can I tell the lineweight difference between walls and built objects and the notations? Will that hatch show-up when the drawing is printed or copied? Have I defined all the symbols somewhere? 5. Read all the notes. Every. Single. One. In fact take a day or two between printing and reading to catch more mistakes. Do they make sense? Are they prescriptive and brief? Do they refer to a spec or define a product If needed? 6. Know your products and details. And if you don’t know look it up. Did you match the install info and size for that toilet paper dispenser? Is it in the correct place? Do you have the correct built-up for the roof? Does it match what is required by code AND the manufacturer AND factory mutual (FM) so it can carry a warranty? Can we do that with storefront framing? 7. Ask. If you have an Engineer you’re working with or a GC (or a trusted GC buddy) call them and ask what the best way to show something is or how they would prefer to build or do something. Make them part of your design team. This is a group effort after all. Same goes for code officials. Call them, talk to them, get to know them. 8. You don’t know better so quit acting like you do. Attitude is a huge problem in our industry. Architects are usually smart, uncompromising people. So are GCs. So are Engineers. You need to check the ego, consider them equal and speak like it. That also goes for talking to the tradesman and laborers on-site. It doesn’t matter that he doesn’t have a degree; he knows more about his job than you and probably makes more money. Everyone involved deserves respect so give it to them. 9. There are times you will need to be firm and uncompromising and not let the GC walk on you. Not every issue is that time. It’ll take patience and experience to know when that is. When in doubt keep quiet and listen before speaking. 10. Have them give you sets or drawings they prefer and copy what that architect did to make a good drawing. Take it apart and give yourself some standards and rules. 11. Follow industry standards. Standards are there to make your life easier. Page numbering, drawing layout, layer naming, etc. are easier if you go with the flow. And If your firm doesn’t have standards it needs them. Anybody in the office should be able to pickup a project done by someone else and finish it or figure out what is going on and standards are the key to that. And That includes file naming, folder structure, binders, etc. 12.Find a good respected mentor to teach you how to do good details and sections. Or several for all areas. Then buy them some bourbon when they save your tail down the line. Finally, You are going to make mistakes. You’re going to cost yourself and your client money at some point. You’ll have GCs yell at you. You’ll fight about change orders. Get calls about rotting window sills and door headers. It’s going to happen. The drawings are never perfect and you’ll always be learning so embrace that and make peace with it. | This is a good question You'll need to understand if they're trying to give you good information, lightly teasing, or trying to bully / haze / intimidate you. If they're giving you good information, try to learn from it. If they're teasing you, this can be annoying but ultimately a good strategy is to ignore it or ask for earnest clarification on how they would have done it. If they're bullying you and not giving you direction you might talk to your superiors - either you're not getting enough in house direction or you're being unfairly picked on. In either case, this is best handled before it becomes a big problem (and intimidation leads to liability). There's no place for personal attack on a construction team and I would want to address it as the project manager. | 1 | 3,684 | 28.4 | ||
w4gcg9 | architecture_train | 0.86 | How do you deal with engineer judgment? Everytime I talk with an engineer or construction worker, they always tell me they could've done the drawing better or it is too slow, or just don't appreciate your work. Some bigger architects have the respect, but fresh architects are looked down on. But they also don't see the bigger picture and are observing everything only from practical point of view. Just wanted to know everyone else's experiences. | ih26dr2 | ih29ftg | 1,658,416,583 | 1,658,417,737 | 5 | 142 | I became an engineer instead | This is a problem with how you are taught in school that has carried over. In school you are taught to make ‘beautiful images’ out of drawings. You make renderings and painstakingly arrange them on pages for presentation. You don’t note or keynote or dimension things much. They tell you ‘the software will do that’ when you are out and starting real production drawings. They are wrong. So here are some things to think about: 1. The software doesn’t work to make good drawings. Revit, AutoCAD, Archicad. It doesn’t matter they all suck out-of-the box. Learn to tweak drawings, view settings and lineweights. I can tell when I get ‘Revity ’ drawings from another architect. They usually don’t have good line-weights, dimensions and fire ratings info is non existent. You need all those and more for good drawings. 2. Just because you can model it doesn’t make it buildable. Think about how you are going to build that funky shape. How do you build up blocking? What is the spacing? What’s the tolerance for Mis-aligned sheathing? How do you finish the Sheetrock in an angled corner or pocket? How will they pour that concrete? 3. PRINT your drawings for redlines. Most GCs could care less about a model, you need to see this from their perspective to ensure you are giving them what they need to build a set. 4. Redline your own work first. Ask yourself: Is it dimensioned? Can I tell the lineweight difference between walls and built objects and the notations? Will that hatch show-up when the drawing is printed or copied? Have I defined all the symbols somewhere? 5. Read all the notes. Every. Single. One. In fact take a day or two between printing and reading to catch more mistakes. Do they make sense? Are they prescriptive and brief? Do they refer to a spec or define a product If needed? 6. Know your products and details. And if you don’t know look it up. Did you match the install info and size for that toilet paper dispenser? Is it in the correct place? Do you have the correct built-up for the roof? Does it match what is required by code AND the manufacturer AND factory mutual (FM) so it can carry a warranty? Can we do that with storefront framing? 7. Ask. If you have an Engineer you’re working with or a GC (or a trusted GC buddy) call them and ask what the best way to show something is or how they would prefer to build or do something. Make them part of your design team. This is a group effort after all. Same goes for code officials. Call them, talk to them, get to know them. 8. You don’t know better so quit acting like you do. Attitude is a huge problem in our industry. Architects are usually smart, uncompromising people. So are GCs. So are Engineers. You need to check the ego, consider them equal and speak like it. That also goes for talking to the tradesman and laborers on-site. It doesn’t matter that he doesn’t have a degree; he knows more about his job than you and probably makes more money. Everyone involved deserves respect so give it to them. 9. There are times you will need to be firm and uncompromising and not let the GC walk on you. Not every issue is that time. It’ll take patience and experience to know when that is. When in doubt keep quiet and listen before speaking. 10. Have them give you sets or drawings they prefer and copy what that architect did to make a good drawing. Take it apart and give yourself some standards and rules. 11. Follow industry standards. Standards are there to make your life easier. Page numbering, drawing layout, layer naming, etc. are easier if you go with the flow. And If your firm doesn’t have standards it needs them. Anybody in the office should be able to pickup a project done by someone else and finish it or figure out what is going on and standards are the key to that. And That includes file naming, folder structure, binders, etc. 12.Find a good respected mentor to teach you how to do good details and sections. Or several for all areas. Then buy them some bourbon when they save your tail down the line. Finally, You are going to make mistakes. You’re going to cost yourself and your client money at some point. You’ll have GCs yell at you. You’ll fight about change orders. Get calls about rotting window sills and door headers. It’s going to happen. The drawings are never perfect and you’ll always be learning so embrace that and make peace with it. | 0 | 1,154 | 28.4 | ||
w4gcg9 | architecture_train | 0.86 | How do you deal with engineer judgment? Everytime I talk with an engineer or construction worker, they always tell me they could've done the drawing better or it is too slow, or just don't appreciate your work. Some bigger architects have the respect, but fresh architects are looked down on. But they also don't see the bigger picture and are observing everything only from practical point of view. Just wanted to know everyone else's experiences. | ih1yjjj | ih29ftg | 1,658,413,527 | 1,658,417,737 | 0 | 142 | These people are called “jerks.” Unfortunately they are out there walking around, existing, doing their laundry just like you and me. Don’t pay them any mind. | This is a problem with how you are taught in school that has carried over. In school you are taught to make ‘beautiful images’ out of drawings. You make renderings and painstakingly arrange them on pages for presentation. You don’t note or keynote or dimension things much. They tell you ‘the software will do that’ when you are out and starting real production drawings. They are wrong. So here are some things to think about: 1. The software doesn’t work to make good drawings. Revit, AutoCAD, Archicad. It doesn’t matter they all suck out-of-the box. Learn to tweak drawings, view settings and lineweights. I can tell when I get ‘Revity ’ drawings from another architect. They usually don’t have good line-weights, dimensions and fire ratings info is non existent. You need all those and more for good drawings. 2. Just because you can model it doesn’t make it buildable. Think about how you are going to build that funky shape. How do you build up blocking? What is the spacing? What’s the tolerance for Mis-aligned sheathing? How do you finish the Sheetrock in an angled corner or pocket? How will they pour that concrete? 3. PRINT your drawings for redlines. Most GCs could care less about a model, you need to see this from their perspective to ensure you are giving them what they need to build a set. 4. Redline your own work first. Ask yourself: Is it dimensioned? Can I tell the lineweight difference between walls and built objects and the notations? Will that hatch show-up when the drawing is printed or copied? Have I defined all the symbols somewhere? 5. Read all the notes. Every. Single. One. In fact take a day or two between printing and reading to catch more mistakes. Do they make sense? Are they prescriptive and brief? Do they refer to a spec or define a product If needed? 6. Know your products and details. And if you don’t know look it up. Did you match the install info and size for that toilet paper dispenser? Is it in the correct place? Do you have the correct built-up for the roof? Does it match what is required by code AND the manufacturer AND factory mutual (FM) so it can carry a warranty? Can we do that with storefront framing? 7. Ask. If you have an Engineer you’re working with or a GC (or a trusted GC buddy) call them and ask what the best way to show something is or how they would prefer to build or do something. Make them part of your design team. This is a group effort after all. Same goes for code officials. Call them, talk to them, get to know them. 8. You don’t know better so quit acting like you do. Attitude is a huge problem in our industry. Architects are usually smart, uncompromising people. So are GCs. So are Engineers. You need to check the ego, consider them equal and speak like it. That also goes for talking to the tradesman and laborers on-site. It doesn’t matter that he doesn’t have a degree; he knows more about his job than you and probably makes more money. Everyone involved deserves respect so give it to them. 9. There are times you will need to be firm and uncompromising and not let the GC walk on you. Not every issue is that time. It’ll take patience and experience to know when that is. When in doubt keep quiet and listen before speaking. 10. Have them give you sets or drawings they prefer and copy what that architect did to make a good drawing. Take it apart and give yourself some standards and rules. 11. Follow industry standards. Standards are there to make your life easier. Page numbering, drawing layout, layer naming, etc. are easier if you go with the flow. And If your firm doesn’t have standards it needs them. Anybody in the office should be able to pickup a project done by someone else and finish it or figure out what is going on and standards are the key to that. And That includes file naming, folder structure, binders, etc. 12.Find a good respected mentor to teach you how to do good details and sections. Or several for all areas. Then buy them some bourbon when they save your tail down the line. Finally, You are going to make mistakes. You’re going to cost yourself and your client money at some point. You’ll have GCs yell at you. You’ll fight about change orders. Get calls about rotting window sills and door headers. It’s going to happen. The drawings are never perfect and you’ll always be learning so embrace that and make peace with it. | 0 | 4,210 | 142,000 | ||
w4gcg9 | architecture_train | 0.86 | How do you deal with engineer judgment? Everytime I talk with an engineer or construction worker, they always tell me they could've done the drawing better or it is too slow, or just don't appreciate your work. Some bigger architects have the respect, but fresh architects are looked down on. But they also don't see the bigger picture and are observing everything only from practical point of view. Just wanted to know everyone else's experiences. | ih1wve3 | ih1xpac | 1,658,412,856 | 1,658,413,195 | 14 | 73 | I’ve never experienced this in my 15 years in the industry. Can you provide a little more specific information? Is this you casually discussing work with someone that is not directly related to the project? Are you a newly licensed architect running their own projects and getting criticism from the consultants or general contractor / sub contractors on the project? Maybe understanding the relationship between you and the people providing the criticism would help me understand the scenario you are explaining. What do you mean by “it is too slow” - are they stating that you’re taking too long to design and detail the project at hand? “Don’t appreciate your work” - I mean, I don’t ask other trades if they appreciate what I do. I do my job because it’s my job, and if they don’t appreciate it then oh well? Once again - can you explain what you mean here? I guess I’m a little lost trying to understand your experience here. Depending on who these individuals are and how they are related to the project at hand either 1) you need to stand your ground as the licensed architect who is going the project and continue to present yourself with authority (this is me making the assumption that you’re the licensed architect, not just part of the project team…if you’re new to the industry you may need to do more listening) or 2) you need to brush off criticism from those who have no actual authority or association with the project and choose different people to look for feedback from. Side note: I’ve worked for an architect, a landscape architect, a sub-contractor doing engineering drawings, and I’ve done civil engineering work. I will tell you - every different branch of the industry talks smack about the other branches because everyone thinks that their way of doing things is better than anyone else. If this is where your problem lies then you just need to listen to things that sound reasonable and would make the whole project flow better for everyone involved, brush off criticism that is just opinion with no real credibility, and make sure you never stop trying to improve your design skills and drawing clarity/accuracy. | >are observing everything only from practical point of view. That's literally their job. | 0 | 339 | 5.214286 | ||
w4gcg9 | architecture_train | 0.86 | How do you deal with engineer judgment? Everytime I talk with an engineer or construction worker, they always tell me they could've done the drawing better or it is too slow, or just don't appreciate your work. Some bigger architects have the respect, but fresh architects are looked down on. But they also don't see the bigger picture and are observing everything only from practical point of view. Just wanted to know everyone else's experiences. | ih1xpac | ih1u0x7 | 1,658,413,195 | 1,658,411,672 | 73 | 10 | >are observing everything only from practical point of view. That's literally their job. | Have you ever thought about taking their feedback and thinking critically about your work and it's applicability | 1 | 1,523 | 7.3 | ||
w4gcg9 | architecture_train | 0.86 | How do you deal with engineer judgment? Everytime I talk with an engineer or construction worker, they always tell me they could've done the drawing better or it is too slow, or just don't appreciate your work. Some bigger architects have the respect, but fresh architects are looked down on. But they also don't see the bigger picture and are observing everything only from practical point of view. Just wanted to know everyone else's experiences. | ih1vxhl | ih1xpac | 1,658,412,468 | 1,658,413,195 | 6 | 73 | Because RFI requests are slow, helps if the drawings are comprehensive when I first see them and hopefully only spend an hour or two budgeting my subcontractor’s portion of the project. Take it as feedback on how to improve your drawings and then you will start having your drawings being respected. Small details are important. | >are observing everything only from practical point of view. That's literally their job. | 0 | 727 | 12.166667 | ||
w4gcg9 | architecture_train | 0.86 | How do you deal with engineer judgment? Everytime I talk with an engineer or construction worker, they always tell me they could've done the drawing better or it is too slow, or just don't appreciate your work. Some bigger architects have the respect, but fresh architects are looked down on. But they also don't see the bigger picture and are observing everything only from practical point of view. Just wanted to know everyone else's experiences. | ih1wve3 | ih23sck | 1,658,412,856 | 1,658,415,577 | 14 | 16 | I’ve never experienced this in my 15 years in the industry. Can you provide a little more specific information? Is this you casually discussing work with someone that is not directly related to the project? Are you a newly licensed architect running their own projects and getting criticism from the consultants or general contractor / sub contractors on the project? Maybe understanding the relationship between you and the people providing the criticism would help me understand the scenario you are explaining. What do you mean by “it is too slow” - are they stating that you’re taking too long to design and detail the project at hand? “Don’t appreciate your work” - I mean, I don’t ask other trades if they appreciate what I do. I do my job because it’s my job, and if they don’t appreciate it then oh well? Once again - can you explain what you mean here? I guess I’m a little lost trying to understand your experience here. Depending on who these individuals are and how they are related to the project at hand either 1) you need to stand your ground as the licensed architect who is going the project and continue to present yourself with authority (this is me making the assumption that you’re the licensed architect, not just part of the project team…if you’re new to the industry you may need to do more listening) or 2) you need to brush off criticism from those who have no actual authority or association with the project and choose different people to look for feedback from. Side note: I’ve worked for an architect, a landscape architect, a sub-contractor doing engineering drawings, and I’ve done civil engineering work. I will tell you - every different branch of the industry talks smack about the other branches because everyone thinks that their way of doing things is better than anyone else. If this is where your problem lies then you just need to listen to things that sound reasonable and would make the whole project flow better for everyone involved, brush off criticism that is just opinion with no real credibility, and make sure you never stop trying to improve your design skills and drawing clarity/accuracy. | you sound fairly fresh on the scene, and I'm guessing you work as part of a bigger team....so here's my advice: there's a lot of salty people in our industry bc many folks are underpaid and overlooked, there is a culture of pointing the finger between contractors & architects & other subs on site. Doing things faster / more efficiently is just one way in which people like to compare dick length. Just take a deep breath and try to understand that its not really about you, and more so a general frustration of the industry. This goes on on almost every single jobsite and it usually doesn't amount to much unless there is a serious fuck up. Small fuck ups are everyday routine. The best way to "level" with these guys is to call them on their bullshit (this would require you to understand something they messed up lol with which you can retort) and have a laugh about it. most construction workers are actually very friendly once you get past the initial gristle of jobsite bravura ;) | 0 | 2,721 | 1.142857 | ||
w4gcg9 | architecture_train | 0.86 | How do you deal with engineer judgment? Everytime I talk with an engineer or construction worker, they always tell me they could've done the drawing better or it is too slow, or just don't appreciate your work. Some bigger architects have the respect, but fresh architects are looked down on. But they also don't see the bigger picture and are observing everything only from practical point of view. Just wanted to know everyone else's experiences. | ih1u0x7 | ih23sck | 1,658,411,672 | 1,658,415,577 | 10 | 16 | Have you ever thought about taking their feedback and thinking critically about your work and it's applicability | you sound fairly fresh on the scene, and I'm guessing you work as part of a bigger team....so here's my advice: there's a lot of salty people in our industry bc many folks are underpaid and overlooked, there is a culture of pointing the finger between contractors & architects & other subs on site. Doing things faster / more efficiently is just one way in which people like to compare dick length. Just take a deep breath and try to understand that its not really about you, and more so a general frustration of the industry. This goes on on almost every single jobsite and it usually doesn't amount to much unless there is a serious fuck up. Small fuck ups are everyday routine. The best way to "level" with these guys is to call them on their bullshit (this would require you to understand something they messed up lol with which you can retort) and have a laugh about it. most construction workers are actually very friendly once you get past the initial gristle of jobsite bravura ;) | 0 | 3,905 | 1.6 | ||
w4gcg9 | architecture_train | 0.86 | How do you deal with engineer judgment? Everytime I talk with an engineer or construction worker, they always tell me they could've done the drawing better or it is too slow, or just don't appreciate your work. Some bigger architects have the respect, but fresh architects are looked down on. But they also don't see the bigger picture and are observing everything only from practical point of view. Just wanted to know everyone else's experiences. | ih20fdg | ih23sck | 1,658,414,278 | 1,658,415,577 | 9 | 16 | Too often in architecture school you are taught to be arrogant by an arrogant “architect”. Maybe the engineers and construction workers understand something you don’t. And they are worried about other things than what you are | you sound fairly fresh on the scene, and I'm guessing you work as part of a bigger team....so here's my advice: there's a lot of salty people in our industry bc many folks are underpaid and overlooked, there is a culture of pointing the finger between contractors & architects & other subs on site. Doing things faster / more efficiently is just one way in which people like to compare dick length. Just take a deep breath and try to understand that its not really about you, and more so a general frustration of the industry. This goes on on almost every single jobsite and it usually doesn't amount to much unless there is a serious fuck up. Small fuck ups are everyday routine. The best way to "level" with these guys is to call them on their bullshit (this would require you to understand something they messed up lol with which you can retort) and have a laugh about it. most construction workers are actually very friendly once you get past the initial gristle of jobsite bravura ;) | 0 | 1,299 | 1.777778 | ||
w4gcg9 | architecture_train | 0.86 | How do you deal with engineer judgment? Everytime I talk with an engineer or construction worker, they always tell me they could've done the drawing better or it is too slow, or just don't appreciate your work. Some bigger architects have the respect, but fresh architects are looked down on. But they also don't see the bigger picture and are observing everything only from practical point of view. Just wanted to know everyone else's experiences. | ih1vxhl | ih23sck | 1,658,412,468 | 1,658,415,577 | 6 | 16 | Because RFI requests are slow, helps if the drawings are comprehensive when I first see them and hopefully only spend an hour or two budgeting my subcontractor’s portion of the project. Take it as feedback on how to improve your drawings and then you will start having your drawings being respected. Small details are important. | you sound fairly fresh on the scene, and I'm guessing you work as part of a bigger team....so here's my advice: there's a lot of salty people in our industry bc many folks are underpaid and overlooked, there is a culture of pointing the finger between contractors & architects & other subs on site. Doing things faster / more efficiently is just one way in which people like to compare dick length. Just take a deep breath and try to understand that its not really about you, and more so a general frustration of the industry. This goes on on almost every single jobsite and it usually doesn't amount to much unless there is a serious fuck up. Small fuck ups are everyday routine. The best way to "level" with these guys is to call them on their bullshit (this would require you to understand something they messed up lol with which you can retort) and have a laugh about it. most construction workers are actually very friendly once you get past the initial gristle of jobsite bravura ;) | 0 | 3,109 | 2.666667 | ||
w4gcg9 | architecture_train | 0.86 | How do you deal with engineer judgment? Everytime I talk with an engineer or construction worker, they always tell me they could've done the drawing better or it is too slow, or just don't appreciate your work. Some bigger architects have the respect, but fresh architects are looked down on. But they also don't see the bigger picture and are observing everything only from practical point of view. Just wanted to know everyone else's experiences. | ih23sck | ih1zv03 | 1,658,415,577 | 1,658,414,053 | 16 | 5 | you sound fairly fresh on the scene, and I'm guessing you work as part of a bigger team....so here's my advice: there's a lot of salty people in our industry bc many folks are underpaid and overlooked, there is a culture of pointing the finger between contractors & architects & other subs on site. Doing things faster / more efficiently is just one way in which people like to compare dick length. Just take a deep breath and try to understand that its not really about you, and more so a general frustration of the industry. This goes on on almost every single jobsite and it usually doesn't amount to much unless there is a serious fuck up. Small fuck ups are everyday routine. The best way to "level" with these guys is to call them on their bullshit (this would require you to understand something they messed up lol with which you can retort) and have a laugh about it. most construction workers are actually very friendly once you get past the initial gristle of jobsite bravura ;) | This is a good question You'll need to understand if they're trying to give you good information, lightly teasing, or trying to bully / haze / intimidate you. If they're giving you good information, try to learn from it. If they're teasing you, this can be annoying but ultimately a good strategy is to ignore it or ask for earnest clarification on how they would have done it. If they're bullying you and not giving you direction you might talk to your superiors - either you're not getting enough in house direction or you're being unfairly picked on. In either case, this is best handled before it becomes a big problem (and intimidation leads to liability). There's no place for personal attack on a construction team and I would want to address it as the project manager. | 1 | 1,524 | 3.2 | ||
w4gcg9 | architecture_train | 0.86 | How do you deal with engineer judgment? Everytime I talk with an engineer or construction worker, they always tell me they could've done the drawing better or it is too slow, or just don't appreciate your work. Some bigger architects have the respect, but fresh architects are looked down on. But they also don't see the bigger picture and are observing everything only from practical point of view. Just wanted to know everyone else's experiences. | ih23sck | ih1yjjj | 1,658,415,577 | 1,658,413,527 | 16 | 0 | you sound fairly fresh on the scene, and I'm guessing you work as part of a bigger team....so here's my advice: there's a lot of salty people in our industry bc many folks are underpaid and overlooked, there is a culture of pointing the finger between contractors & architects & other subs on site. Doing things faster / more efficiently is just one way in which people like to compare dick length. Just take a deep breath and try to understand that its not really about you, and more so a general frustration of the industry. This goes on on almost every single jobsite and it usually doesn't amount to much unless there is a serious fuck up. Small fuck ups are everyday routine. The best way to "level" with these guys is to call them on their bullshit (this would require you to understand something they messed up lol with which you can retort) and have a laugh about it. most construction workers are actually very friendly once you get past the initial gristle of jobsite bravura ;) | These people are called “jerks.” Unfortunately they are out there walking around, existing, doing their laundry just like you and me. Don’t pay them any mind. | 1 | 2,050 | 16,000 | ||
w4gcg9 | architecture_train | 0.86 | How do you deal with engineer judgment? Everytime I talk with an engineer or construction worker, they always tell me they could've done the drawing better or it is too slow, or just don't appreciate your work. Some bigger architects have the respect, but fresh architects are looked down on. But they also don't see the bigger picture and are observing everything only from practical point of view. Just wanted to know everyone else's experiences. | ih1u0x7 | ih1wve3 | 1,658,411,672 | 1,658,412,856 | 10 | 14 | Have you ever thought about taking their feedback and thinking critically about your work and it's applicability | I’ve never experienced this in my 15 years in the industry. Can you provide a little more specific information? Is this you casually discussing work with someone that is not directly related to the project? Are you a newly licensed architect running their own projects and getting criticism from the consultants or general contractor / sub contractors on the project? Maybe understanding the relationship between you and the people providing the criticism would help me understand the scenario you are explaining. What do you mean by “it is too slow” - are they stating that you’re taking too long to design and detail the project at hand? “Don’t appreciate your work” - I mean, I don’t ask other trades if they appreciate what I do. I do my job because it’s my job, and if they don’t appreciate it then oh well? Once again - can you explain what you mean here? I guess I’m a little lost trying to understand your experience here. Depending on who these individuals are and how they are related to the project at hand either 1) you need to stand your ground as the licensed architect who is going the project and continue to present yourself with authority (this is me making the assumption that you’re the licensed architect, not just part of the project team…if you’re new to the industry you may need to do more listening) or 2) you need to brush off criticism from those who have no actual authority or association with the project and choose different people to look for feedback from. Side note: I’ve worked for an architect, a landscape architect, a sub-contractor doing engineering drawings, and I’ve done civil engineering work. I will tell you - every different branch of the industry talks smack about the other branches because everyone thinks that their way of doing things is better than anyone else. If this is where your problem lies then you just need to listen to things that sound reasonable and would make the whole project flow better for everyone involved, brush off criticism that is just opinion with no real credibility, and make sure you never stop trying to improve your design skills and drawing clarity/accuracy. | 0 | 1,184 | 1.4 | ||
w4gcg9 | architecture_train | 0.86 | How do you deal with engineer judgment? Everytime I talk with an engineer or construction worker, they always tell me they could've done the drawing better or it is too slow, or just don't appreciate your work. Some bigger architects have the respect, but fresh architects are looked down on. But they also don't see the bigger picture and are observing everything only from practical point of view. Just wanted to know everyone else's experiences. | ih1vxhl | ih1wve3 | 1,658,412,468 | 1,658,412,856 | 6 | 14 | Because RFI requests are slow, helps if the drawings are comprehensive when I first see them and hopefully only spend an hour or two budgeting my subcontractor’s portion of the project. Take it as feedback on how to improve your drawings and then you will start having your drawings being respected. Small details are important. | I’ve never experienced this in my 15 years in the industry. Can you provide a little more specific information? Is this you casually discussing work with someone that is not directly related to the project? Are you a newly licensed architect running their own projects and getting criticism from the consultants or general contractor / sub contractors on the project? Maybe understanding the relationship between you and the people providing the criticism would help me understand the scenario you are explaining. What do you mean by “it is too slow” - are they stating that you’re taking too long to design and detail the project at hand? “Don’t appreciate your work” - I mean, I don’t ask other trades if they appreciate what I do. I do my job because it’s my job, and if they don’t appreciate it then oh well? Once again - can you explain what you mean here? I guess I’m a little lost trying to understand your experience here. Depending on who these individuals are and how they are related to the project at hand either 1) you need to stand your ground as the licensed architect who is going the project and continue to present yourself with authority (this is me making the assumption that you’re the licensed architect, not just part of the project team…if you’re new to the industry you may need to do more listening) or 2) you need to brush off criticism from those who have no actual authority or association with the project and choose different people to look for feedback from. Side note: I’ve worked for an architect, a landscape architect, a sub-contractor doing engineering drawings, and I’ve done civil engineering work. I will tell you - every different branch of the industry talks smack about the other branches because everyone thinks that their way of doing things is better than anyone else. If this is where your problem lies then you just need to listen to things that sound reasonable and would make the whole project flow better for everyone involved, brush off criticism that is just opinion with no real credibility, and make sure you never stop trying to improve your design skills and drawing clarity/accuracy. | 0 | 388 | 2.333333 | ||
w4gcg9 | architecture_train | 0.86 | How do you deal with engineer judgment? Everytime I talk with an engineer or construction worker, they always tell me they could've done the drawing better or it is too slow, or just don't appreciate your work. Some bigger architects have the respect, but fresh architects are looked down on. But they also don't see the bigger picture and are observing everything only from practical point of view. Just wanted to know everyone else's experiences. | ih1vxhl | ih20fdg | 1,658,412,468 | 1,658,414,278 | 6 | 9 | Because RFI requests are slow, helps if the drawings are comprehensive when I first see them and hopefully only spend an hour or two budgeting my subcontractor’s portion of the project. Take it as feedback on how to improve your drawings and then you will start having your drawings being respected. Small details are important. | Too often in architecture school you are taught to be arrogant by an arrogant “architect”. Maybe the engineers and construction workers understand something you don’t. And they are worried about other things than what you are | 0 | 1,810 | 1.5 | ||
w4gcg9 | architecture_train | 0.86 | How do you deal with engineer judgment? Everytime I talk with an engineer or construction worker, they always tell me they could've done the drawing better or it is too slow, or just don't appreciate your work. Some bigger architects have the respect, but fresh architects are looked down on. But they also don't see the bigger picture and are observing everything only from practical point of view. Just wanted to know everyone else's experiences. | ih1zv03 | ih20fdg | 1,658,414,053 | 1,658,414,278 | 5 | 9 | This is a good question You'll need to understand if they're trying to give you good information, lightly teasing, or trying to bully / haze / intimidate you. If they're giving you good information, try to learn from it. If they're teasing you, this can be annoying but ultimately a good strategy is to ignore it or ask for earnest clarification on how they would have done it. If they're bullying you and not giving you direction you might talk to your superiors - either you're not getting enough in house direction or you're being unfairly picked on. In either case, this is best handled before it becomes a big problem (and intimidation leads to liability). There's no place for personal attack on a construction team and I would want to address it as the project manager. | Too often in architecture school you are taught to be arrogant by an arrogant “architect”. Maybe the engineers and construction workers understand something you don’t. And they are worried about other things than what you are | 0 | 225 | 1.8 | ||
w4gcg9 | architecture_train | 0.86 | How do you deal with engineer judgment? Everytime I talk with an engineer or construction worker, they always tell me they could've done the drawing better or it is too slow, or just don't appreciate your work. Some bigger architects have the respect, but fresh architects are looked down on. But they also don't see the bigger picture and are observing everything only from practical point of view. Just wanted to know everyone else's experiences. | ih20fdg | ih1yjjj | 1,658,414,278 | 1,658,413,527 | 9 | 0 | Too often in architecture school you are taught to be arrogant by an arrogant “architect”. Maybe the engineers and construction workers understand something you don’t. And they are worried about other things than what you are | These people are called “jerks.” Unfortunately they are out there walking around, existing, doing their laundry just like you and me. Don’t pay them any mind. | 1 | 751 | 9,000 | ||
w4gcg9 | architecture_train | 0.86 | How do you deal with engineer judgment? Everytime I talk with an engineer or construction worker, they always tell me they could've done the drawing better or it is too slow, or just don't appreciate your work. Some bigger architects have the respect, but fresh architects are looked down on. But they also don't see the bigger picture and are observing everything only from practical point of view. Just wanted to know everyone else's experiences. | ih1yjjj | ih1zv03 | 1,658,413,527 | 1,658,414,053 | 0 | 5 | These people are called “jerks.” Unfortunately they are out there walking around, existing, doing their laundry just like you and me. Don’t pay them any mind. | This is a good question You'll need to understand if they're trying to give you good information, lightly teasing, or trying to bully / haze / intimidate you. If they're giving you good information, try to learn from it. If they're teasing you, this can be annoying but ultimately a good strategy is to ignore it or ask for earnest clarification on how they would have done it. If they're bullying you and not giving you direction you might talk to your superiors - either you're not getting enough in house direction or you're being unfairly picked on. In either case, this is best handled before it becomes a big problem (and intimidation leads to liability). There's no place for personal attack on a construction team and I would want to address it as the project manager. | 0 | 526 | 5,000 | ||
w4gcg9 | architecture_train | 0.86 | How do you deal with engineer judgment? Everytime I talk with an engineer or construction worker, they always tell me they could've done the drawing better or it is too slow, or just don't appreciate your work. Some bigger architects have the respect, but fresh architects are looked down on. But they also don't see the bigger picture and are observing everything only from practical point of view. Just wanted to know everyone else's experiences. | ih26dr2 | ih1yjjj | 1,658,416,583 | 1,658,413,527 | 5 | 0 | I became an engineer instead | These people are called “jerks.” Unfortunately they are out there walking around, existing, doing their laundry just like you and me. Don’t pay them any mind. | 1 | 3,056 | 5,000 | ||
w4gcg9 | architecture_train | 0.86 | How do you deal with engineer judgment? Everytime I talk with an engineer or construction worker, they always tell me they could've done the drawing better or it is too slow, or just don't appreciate your work. Some bigger architects have the respect, but fresh architects are looked down on. But they also don't see the bigger picture and are observing everything only from practical point of view. Just wanted to know everyone else's experiences. | ih2gn2h | ih2cape | 1,658,420,426 | 1,658,418,806 | 5 | 2 | I'm going to assume you are also newish to the industry. We all have ego and sometimes this can get in our way. I use to get upset until I started: A. Taking the criticism as a way to improve myself and my work. B. Understanding that the architecture feild is full of ego maniacs C. There's 100000 different ways to do something and I'm not always right. D. Giving less fucks Care less about what others think and just focus on you and your deliverables. Put out the best work you can, learn and the do even better on the next project. That's all you can do ❤ | Get good enough that you can judge them. MEP drawings and models are always terrible. | 1 | 1,620 | 2.5 |
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