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ysq06b | architecture_train | 0.95 | Too much to learn in this profession? A Question for Architects Hi there. I've got a question for this sub. (Fellow young-ish architects with 2-10 years of experience) - Do you ever feel like you are unqualified, or too inexperienced in situations you find often find yourselves in? Like, do you sometimes feel inadequate in “design” meetings because you are too technical, or do you feel lost when taking with curtain wall subs or talking details with more technical peers? I feel lost being somewhere in the middle. I work on huge projects from schematic design to design development to construction documents and have worked on everything from planning, exterior design, and interiors too. In 8 years, I’ve pretty much only worked on two projects. Learning a lot, but I don’t feel like I’m an expert on anything really particular. I guess I’m wondering if others feel this way and if maybe I should start focusing on doing certain things well? Maybe this means changing jobs? IDK. Side note, I think of myself as a pretty well-rounded designer and work on pretty large-scale hospitals and universities... with a master's degree and 8 years working of experience and I can't tell you the first about how to build a single-family wood-framed house for example. Reddit is like Human Resources, right? If this gets downvoted into oblivion I will understand. Thank you! | iw2cw8d | iw0nnyz | 1,668,256,183 | 1,668,214,149 | 0 | -1 | No comments. Thanks for posting. | Any and all "professions" as time goes by all professions, and crafts as well gather history. Not that neat nancy-pamby "this is whay came before" the dreaded "this is what you will be confronted with and need to handle". History is a killer ... And then there are all those new guys with new theories that must absolutely be implemented. The great art , what you didn't know what arche-techne meant ? , The great art requires a massive ego. You don't need to know this stuff you just need to be aware that it exist. Because you are better than that. P.S. : it might take a while for others to beleive it about you so meanwhile , learn the stuff. | 1 | 42,034 | 0 | ||
ysq06b | architecture_train | 0.95 | Too much to learn in this profession? A Question for Architects Hi there. I've got a question for this sub. (Fellow young-ish architects with 2-10 years of experience) - Do you ever feel like you are unqualified, or too inexperienced in situations you find often find yourselves in? Like, do you sometimes feel inadequate in “design” meetings because you are too technical, or do you feel lost when taking with curtain wall subs or talking details with more technical peers? I feel lost being somewhere in the middle. I work on huge projects from schematic design to design development to construction documents and have worked on everything from planning, exterior design, and interiors too. In 8 years, I’ve pretty much only worked on two projects. Learning a lot, but I don’t feel like I’m an expert on anything really particular. I guess I’m wondering if others feel this way and if maybe I should start focusing on doing certain things well? Maybe this means changing jobs? IDK. Side note, I think of myself as a pretty well-rounded designer and work on pretty large-scale hospitals and universities... with a master's degree and 8 years working of experience and I can't tell you the first about how to build a single-family wood-framed house for example. Reddit is like Human Resources, right? If this gets downvoted into oblivion I will understand. Thank you! | iw2of9r | iw0nnyz | 1,668,262,924 | 1,668,214,149 | 1 | -1 | Like someone else had mentioned in this thread, architects are generalists (my professor always told us this too). The way technology is progressing and school is being taught, there is just no way to understand everything nowadays in the profession. Just hang onto the things you are most interested in and you will carve out a path for yourself naturally. | Any and all "professions" as time goes by all professions, and crafts as well gather history. Not that neat nancy-pamby "this is whay came before" the dreaded "this is what you will be confronted with and need to handle". History is a killer ... And then there are all those new guys with new theories that must absolutely be implemented. The great art , what you didn't know what arche-techne meant ? , The great art requires a massive ego. You don't need to know this stuff you just need to be aware that it exist. Because you are better than that. P.S. : it might take a while for others to beleive it about you so meanwhile , learn the stuff. | 1 | 48,775 | -1 | ||
ysq06b | architecture_train | 0.95 | Too much to learn in this profession? A Question for Architects Hi there. I've got a question for this sub. (Fellow young-ish architects with 2-10 years of experience) - Do you ever feel like you are unqualified, or too inexperienced in situations you find often find yourselves in? Like, do you sometimes feel inadequate in “design” meetings because you are too technical, or do you feel lost when taking with curtain wall subs or talking details with more technical peers? I feel lost being somewhere in the middle. I work on huge projects from schematic design to design development to construction documents and have worked on everything from planning, exterior design, and interiors too. In 8 years, I’ve pretty much only worked on two projects. Learning a lot, but I don’t feel like I’m an expert on anything really particular. I guess I’m wondering if others feel this way and if maybe I should start focusing on doing certain things well? Maybe this means changing jobs? IDK. Side note, I think of myself as a pretty well-rounded designer and work on pretty large-scale hospitals and universities... with a master's degree and 8 years working of experience and I can't tell you the first about how to build a single-family wood-framed house for example. Reddit is like Human Resources, right? If this gets downvoted into oblivion I will understand. Thank you! | iw3751g | iw0nnyz | 1,668,271,325 | 1,668,214,149 | 1 | -1 | I guess That's why it's called a practice lol | Any and all "professions" as time goes by all professions, and crafts as well gather history. Not that neat nancy-pamby "this is whay came before" the dreaded "this is what you will be confronted with and need to handle". History is a killer ... And then there are all those new guys with new theories that must absolutely be implemented. The great art , what you didn't know what arche-techne meant ? , The great art requires a massive ego. You don't need to know this stuff you just need to be aware that it exist. Because you are better than that. P.S. : it might take a while for others to beleive it about you so meanwhile , learn the stuff. | 1 | 57,176 | -1 | ||
ysq06b | architecture_train | 0.95 | Too much to learn in this profession? A Question for Architects Hi there. I've got a question for this sub. (Fellow young-ish architects with 2-10 years of experience) - Do you ever feel like you are unqualified, or too inexperienced in situations you find often find yourselves in? Like, do you sometimes feel inadequate in “design” meetings because you are too technical, or do you feel lost when taking with curtain wall subs or talking details with more technical peers? I feel lost being somewhere in the middle. I work on huge projects from schematic design to design development to construction documents and have worked on everything from planning, exterior design, and interiors too. In 8 years, I’ve pretty much only worked on two projects. Learning a lot, but I don’t feel like I’m an expert on anything really particular. I guess I’m wondering if others feel this way and if maybe I should start focusing on doing certain things well? Maybe this means changing jobs? IDK. Side note, I think of myself as a pretty well-rounded designer and work on pretty large-scale hospitals and universities... with a master's degree and 8 years working of experience and I can't tell you the first about how to build a single-family wood-framed house for example. Reddit is like Human Resources, right? If this gets downvoted into oblivion I will understand. Thank you! | iw0nnyz | iw4mkeb | 1,668,214,149 | 1,668,293,050 | -1 | 1 | Any and all "professions" as time goes by all professions, and crafts as well gather history. Not that neat nancy-pamby "this is whay came before" the dreaded "this is what you will be confronted with and need to handle". History is a killer ... And then there are all those new guys with new theories that must absolutely be implemented. The great art , what you didn't know what arche-techne meant ? , The great art requires a massive ego. You don't need to know this stuff you just need to be aware that it exist. Because you are better than that. P.S. : it might take a while for others to beleive it about you so meanwhile , learn the stuff. | First, OP it’s totally normal to feel ‘underwater’ the first few years. There is allot to learn even out of school. Actual detailing, actual site observation and documentation, contracts, navigating permitting and way, way more than they could ever teach or simulate in school. It’s just a very deep profession. Get a good mentor (or three) and pick their brain on the regular. It could even be a good tradesperson; not just another architect. They all have good knowledge you need. However… however. I don’t understand how so many commenters here are working so many years on just a few projects. Are they all just massive campuses or hospitals? I’ve been in practice for 17 years and I’ve done somewhere around 300 jobs start to finish. I started my career doing a lot of branch bank work as well as small medical (mri, ct, doctors offices, etc.). I did something like 3-6 of those yearly. Keep in mind the MRI and CT were usually just a small suite of rooms, but the branch banks were ground up; including a new prototype one group is still using. A few years in I ended up doing restaurant work almost (but not quite) exclusively for ten years. Yes many were fast-food restaurant ground-up projects (site adapt prototypes) but another many were also fast-food remodels (which require much more in-depth site visits and documentation). As well as prototype development and management. For about three years I was doing 30 fast-food projects a year; 15 remodels and 15 ground ups ALONG with about 10 tenant fit-out fast-casual restaurants (each site was unique and we did the plan developments) and the occasional one-off something else. For the past four years I’ve been doing very large high-rise historical multi-family renovation and redesign (gutting abandoned historical buildings and doing apartments) and have done one of those a year along with at-least three fast-casual restaurants and two one-off things (car dealership, funeral home, office renovation, master plan for a boys and girls club, etc.). Many of the clients I work with have lots of building experience and are very familiar with the process and end up with us because they had terrible, expensive (and non-productive) experiences with other architects. All that is to say.. if you want more experience there are firms that will give it to you. | 0 | 78,901 | -1 | ||
ysq06b | architecture_train | 0.95 | Too much to learn in this profession? A Question for Architects Hi there. I've got a question for this sub. (Fellow young-ish architects with 2-10 years of experience) - Do you ever feel like you are unqualified, or too inexperienced in situations you find often find yourselves in? Like, do you sometimes feel inadequate in “design” meetings because you are too technical, or do you feel lost when taking with curtain wall subs or talking details with more technical peers? I feel lost being somewhere in the middle. I work on huge projects from schematic design to design development to construction documents and have worked on everything from planning, exterior design, and interiors too. In 8 years, I’ve pretty much only worked on two projects. Learning a lot, but I don’t feel like I’m an expert on anything really particular. I guess I’m wondering if others feel this way and if maybe I should start focusing on doing certain things well? Maybe this means changing jobs? IDK. Side note, I think of myself as a pretty well-rounded designer and work on pretty large-scale hospitals and universities... with a master's degree and 8 years working of experience and I can't tell you the first about how to build a single-family wood-framed house for example. Reddit is like Human Resources, right? If this gets downvoted into oblivion I will understand. Thank you! | iw0nnyz | iw8baga | 1,668,214,149 | 1,668,365,915 | -1 | 1 | Any and all "professions" as time goes by all professions, and crafts as well gather history. Not that neat nancy-pamby "this is whay came before" the dreaded "this is what you will be confronted with and need to handle". History is a killer ... And then there are all those new guys with new theories that must absolutely be implemented. The great art , what you didn't know what arche-techne meant ? , The great art requires a massive ego. You don't need to know this stuff you just need to be aware that it exist. Because you are better than that. P.S. : it might take a while for others to beleive it about you so meanwhile , learn the stuff. | I relate to this so much. I’m 10 yrs into project development / PM as an architect and every day I feel so inadequate. Constructors, investors, designers, building code supervisors, authorities, utilities, etc. all look at me at difficult situations, misunderstandings, conflicts to decide, to manage, to know better. The thing is, they all know their respective fields so much better than me and i am caught in the middle and its so overwhelming. I console myself with the idea that this is all normal and nobody can know everything. They say, architects are generalists, not specialis. And it is hard. | 0 | 151,766 | -1 | ||
7ooadl | architecture_train | 0.74 | [Ask] I like the work of a nearby architect, and I want to know more. What ideas do you have? Alright, strange question I know, but... There's this architecture firm nearby, and I *really* love their telecomm work. I want to know more about the people who made it - their influences, reasoning, process, motivation, schooling! But, I have no clue how to approach that question. It seems easy to just ask some of the architects out for coffee, but I feel that's too simple an answer. I really don't know, and at this point, I'm looking for some type of confirmation bias. Thanks in advance! | dsbfhur | dsb4zhz | 1,515,327,790 | 1,515,302,638 | 3 | 2 | Ask them? | My firm typically posts a lot of our inspiration on Facebook, Instagram, and our website. If it’s not there, the only way you’ll get it is in person. Typically there are more detailed stories online in publications. I think it might be weird to seek out a coffee meeting, but if our happened to run into them outside the office one day it would probably be fine. | 1 | 25,152 | 1.5 | ||
b0i7jf | architecture_train | 0.89 | [ASK] Architects of Reddit: How did you know that Architecture was for you? Did you go into study with or without exposure/experience to the profession? How did your expectations meet with the reality of the job? And lastly, what would be your advice for someone who is looking into becoming an architect? | eifjvhf | eifmt3d | 1,552,487,517 | 1,552,489,598 | 1 | 2 | I have family members in the Profession. I have some talent at drawing and other art, and am really, really good at geometry. I also like making things. It just fit. | My dads family had an electrical contracting business going back to the 50’s. So I grew up around construction. I was supposed to be the 4th generation to run the family busy, but I figured I was a little more creative, so I figured architecture would be a better fit than Construction management, but would still be relevant enough that I could learn the rest. The business ended up dying shortly after the Great Recession, before I was ready to run it. I had been working part time there for a year doing drafting and deliveries on my days off or summers in addition to my other job. I ended up at an architectural firm much closer to home after a chain of referrals and interviews at various firms. Been there five years now, from intern to junior drafter, drafter, and now architect / pm. The work isn’t glamorous, it won’t get featured, but I like my coworkers and my bosses so I don’t plan to leave. Hopefully in a couple of years I can find a way to become a partner in the firm. | 0 | 2,081 | 2 | ||
b0i7jf | architecture_train | 0.89 | [ASK] Architects of Reddit: How did you know that Architecture was for you? Did you go into study with or without exposure/experience to the profession? How did your expectations meet with the reality of the job? And lastly, what would be your advice for someone who is looking into becoming an architect? | eifmt3d | eiflcnz | 1,552,489,598 | 1,552,488,578 | 2 | 1 | My dads family had an electrical contracting business going back to the 50’s. So I grew up around construction. I was supposed to be the 4th generation to run the family busy, but I figured I was a little more creative, so I figured architecture would be a better fit than Construction management, but would still be relevant enough that I could learn the rest. The business ended up dying shortly after the Great Recession, before I was ready to run it. I had been working part time there for a year doing drafting and deliveries on my days off or summers in addition to my other job. I ended up at an architectural firm much closer to home after a chain of referrals and interviews at various firms. Been there five years now, from intern to junior drafter, drafter, and now architect / pm. The work isn’t glamorous, it won’t get featured, but I like my coworkers and my bosses so I don’t plan to leave. Hopefully in a couple of years I can find a way to become a partner in the firm. | my parents groomed me to be an architect from very early on. my dad wanted to be an architect, but ended up being a pilot. i went to an architecture magnet high school and then to a 5 year masters program. school was tough but i loved it. getting into the field was easy, but the job was nothing like school. testing was the hardest thing i've ever done. and nothing like school. and nothing like work. i completed testing under 4.0, now they are on 5.0, which i hear is geared more towards an actual practice. the hours are long and sometimes unpredictable. i've worked at three different firms now, and they've all pretty much been the same in that regard. i had a mentor at my first job who would always tell me "get out now" because he hated architecture. he's been in the industry for at least 25 years now. he still hates architecture and i understand why. praise and satisfaction is few and far between. looking behind the curtain revealed what the profession actually is: next to no "design" the way the public thinks. even with the warnings (there were a few), i went into the world of architecture with my head held high. those kind of expectations have only led me to great unhappiness. that is not to say i am unsuccessful. i am a licensed architect before 30, learning constantly, making more money than i'd have imagined, working at really great place with tons of opportunity. advice... definitely documentation of work. this whole field really is "who you know" first and "what you know" second. its so much networking, but you have to be able to back those connections up with quality and work ethic. i know this terrible field is for me, even if im unhappy with it, and i think thats my biggest piece, if you think for a second its not for you, get out. you'll be happier you did. | 1 | 1,020 | 2 | ||
b0i7jf | architecture_train | 0.89 | [ASK] Architects of Reddit: How did you know that Architecture was for you? Did you go into study with or without exposure/experience to the profession? How did your expectations meet with the reality of the job? And lastly, what would be your advice for someone who is looking into becoming an architect? | eifjvhf | eih5g1k | 1,552,487,517 | 1,552,525,723 | 1 | 2 | I have family members in the Profession. I have some talent at drawing and other art, and am really, really good at geometry. I also like making things. It just fit. | I started drawing floor plans of hotels and houses for my Polly Pocket’s when I was 8 years old, and built paper houses for the rolly polly’s in my back yard. | 0 | 38,206 | 2 | ||
b0i7jf | architecture_train | 0.89 | [ASK] Architects of Reddit: How did you know that Architecture was for you? Did you go into study with or without exposure/experience to the profession? How did your expectations meet with the reality of the job? And lastly, what would be your advice for someone who is looking into becoming an architect? | eiflcnz | eih5g1k | 1,552,488,578 | 1,552,525,723 | 1 | 2 | my parents groomed me to be an architect from very early on. my dad wanted to be an architect, but ended up being a pilot. i went to an architecture magnet high school and then to a 5 year masters program. school was tough but i loved it. getting into the field was easy, but the job was nothing like school. testing was the hardest thing i've ever done. and nothing like school. and nothing like work. i completed testing under 4.0, now they are on 5.0, which i hear is geared more towards an actual practice. the hours are long and sometimes unpredictable. i've worked at three different firms now, and they've all pretty much been the same in that regard. i had a mentor at my first job who would always tell me "get out now" because he hated architecture. he's been in the industry for at least 25 years now. he still hates architecture and i understand why. praise and satisfaction is few and far between. looking behind the curtain revealed what the profession actually is: next to no "design" the way the public thinks. even with the warnings (there were a few), i went into the world of architecture with my head held high. those kind of expectations have only led me to great unhappiness. that is not to say i am unsuccessful. i am a licensed architect before 30, learning constantly, making more money than i'd have imagined, working at really great place with tons of opportunity. advice... definitely documentation of work. this whole field really is "who you know" first and "what you know" second. its so much networking, but you have to be able to back those connections up with quality and work ethic. i know this terrible field is for me, even if im unhappy with it, and i think thats my biggest piece, if you think for a second its not for you, get out. you'll be happier you did. | I started drawing floor plans of hotels and houses for my Polly Pocket’s when I was 8 years old, and built paper houses for the rolly polly’s in my back yard. | 0 | 37,145 | 2 | ||
b0i7jf | architecture_train | 0.89 | [ASK] Architects of Reddit: How did you know that Architecture was for you? Did you go into study with or without exposure/experience to the profession? How did your expectations meet with the reality of the job? And lastly, what would be your advice for someone who is looking into becoming an architect? | eih5g1k | eift956 | 1,552,525,723 | 1,552,493,940 | 2 | 1 | I started drawing floor plans of hotels and houses for my Polly Pocket’s when I was 8 years old, and built paper houses for the rolly polly’s in my back yard. | I've played Sims 3 10 years ago and I've constantly kept designing houses but things were alot different in school and work is alot different from it as well but still, the entire process just feels fulfilling to me. From the pride i feel completing my school project and the freedom after completing a tender after work (then it all piles up again) | 1 | 31,783 | 2 | ||
mr7rwv | architecture_train | 0.88 | Question: Older Architects of Reddit, before email became the norm of office contact, were you literally on the phone all day with contractors, vendors, and clients? How did you find time to get work done? As a project manager in an architectural firm, it’s normal to get 40+ emails a day from contractors, vendors, and clients in order to coordinate projects in various phases of design and construction. I can’t imagine having to manage this barrage of information by phone all day long. How did you guys do it before internet, emails, and construction administration management software? | gulfqcx | gullukc | 1,618,487,908 | 1,618,491,655 | 4 | 9 | I don't know how I get work done with 40 emails a day, tbh | Honestly, I find phone calls solves problems way faster than emails and I only use emails to send out non discussion items (due dates, backgrounds, etc.). Sitting waiting for an email never knowing when you might get an answer to a question is such a waste of time. Also, I'm 31, so not really older. | 0 | 3,747 | 2.25 | ||
mr7rwv | architecture_train | 0.88 | Question: Older Architects of Reddit, before email became the norm of office contact, were you literally on the phone all day with contractors, vendors, and clients? How did you find time to get work done? As a project manager in an architectural firm, it’s normal to get 40+ emails a day from contractors, vendors, and clients in order to coordinate projects in various phases of design and construction. I can’t imagine having to manage this barrage of information by phone all day long. How did you guys do it before internet, emails, and construction administration management software? | guljswx | gullukc | 1,618,490,475 | 1,618,491,655 | 3 | 9 | Judging by my boss, he's just as much on the phone now as he was before. I.e. all the time. Now it's just phones *and* e-mails. | Honestly, I find phone calls solves problems way faster than emails and I only use emails to send out non discussion items (due dates, backgrounds, etc.). Sitting waiting for an email never knowing when you might get an answer to a question is such a waste of time. Also, I'm 31, so not really older. | 0 | 1,180 | 3 | ||
mr7rwv | architecture_train | 0.88 | Question: Older Architects of Reddit, before email became the norm of office contact, were you literally on the phone all day with contractors, vendors, and clients? How did you find time to get work done? As a project manager in an architectural firm, it’s normal to get 40+ emails a day from contractors, vendors, and clients in order to coordinate projects in various phases of design and construction. I can’t imagine having to manage this barrage of information by phone all day long. How did you guys do it before internet, emails, and construction administration management software? | gumk2bj | guljswx | 1,618,507,219 | 1,618,490,475 | 4 | 3 | Projects took longer to design and build. RFIs and Submittals took a lot longer to respond to. Contractors had to wait for you to actually come out to the site and review the job conditions before getting a response. We used to have to make 3 copies of our submittal red marks on 3 separate sets of shop drawings and then mail them to each sub-consultant to perform their review, then mail 2 copies back to the contractor. Yes, there were a lot more phonecalls. As a PM with multiple projects in various phases, it's not unusual for me to receive over 100 emails per day. Most of my day is about communication and coordination, leading the design team and responding to the client and contractors. I don't think that part of the job has changed, we are just faster and more efficient now, which ironically means that we have fewer staff and are getting less fee for similar work. | Judging by my boss, he's just as much on the phone now as he was before. I.e. all the time. Now it's just phones *and* e-mails. | 1 | 16,744 | 1.333333 | ||
93pq7u | architecture_train | 0.9 | [ask] Architects, how many of you have a laser cutter, 3D printer, or other cool gadgets in the office? We just got a laser cutter and it is the coolest thing ever. Even I can make models that are not all wonky and lopsided now. This is great! How many of you get to play with similar gadgetry? | e3ff61b | e3f2abr | 1,533,148,772 | 1,533,138,643 | 8 | 5 | We have a drone. Makes taking photos of buildings and modeling roofs and verifying how many treads and risers are in a staircase super easy. Plus it’s fun. | Nice! that's awesome! I think Lasercutter/3Dprinter/VR really help with recruiting young talent to! also makes building models more efficient. I don't know if your office uses Revit, but instead of redrawing your Lasercut plans in AutoCad from building elevations, you can select the wall and "isolate element" and then export that element to AutoCad. really saves time in redrawing elevations in Cad to Cut. | 1 | 10,129 | 1.6 | ||
dyelgk | architecture_train | 0.84 | [ASK] Little brother (14) wants to become an architect. How should I support him? Little bro spends his time drawing sketches of buildings and layouts of commercial buildings such as malls. I'd like to guide and support him but I know nothing about this field. Any tips as to how to nudge him in the right direction so his dream can actually be possible? Perhaps maybe what classes to take in high school, books to read, clear up misconceptions, introduce positions other than architect that still contribute to the industry, what hardware/ software he can use to learn, etc. Thank you all for your time! | f80rec6 | f80utjb | 1,574,136,221 | 1,574,138,952 | 1 | 3 | If he has a student email he can download a copy of Revit. The same might be true for AutoCAD. | I absolutely love being an architect but want to start off by saying that he should have a clear understanding of the path ahead. I hated that people would tell me “Oh it’s really hard” when I said this is what I wanted to do, but it really is a long, expensive road. It is a minimum four (B.Arch) to six years (M.Arch) at an NCARB accredited university with expensive books, drafting supplies, printing fees, a fancy laptop, and most likely a semester abroad; after graduating there’s 3,700 intern hours and six exams ($235/each) for the license (this takes as little as three years and an average of seven) plus licensing fees and AIA dues, then 12 hours of continuing education every year. The money doesn’t come until you get about 8-10 years in - my first salary was $40,000 (2011) and that was about $5k higher than all my friends. Thankfully I did not have student loans. Onto the fun stuff: Sketching skills are great! I know the future of the field is BIM/AR but sketches are how we communicate basic ideas to each other. I think Sketchup is a good, basic introduction to computer modeling and there’s a free version. He can play around and make all kinds of stuff. I wouldn’t worry too much about a specific program though, as it will probably be different in 10 years when he graduates. If his high school has drafting, modeling, or 3D printing classes, he should take those just for the basic skills. A lot of architecture colleges have summer high school programs - I wish I had done this as it would have opened up more schools to me. Also reach out to your local AIA chapter for events, tours and lectures to attend (better in more metro areas) or for firms that take on high school interns/shadows. Finally, I can’t overstate the value of basic construction knowledge, whether it comes from touring job sites, swinging a hammer at Habitat for Humanity, or a summer office job at a contractor’s office. It keeps us gods humble. :) Good luck to your brother! | 0 | 2,731 | 3 | ||
dyelgk | architecture_train | 0.84 | [ASK] Little brother (14) wants to become an architect. How should I support him? Little bro spends his time drawing sketches of buildings and layouts of commercial buildings such as malls. I'd like to guide and support him but I know nothing about this field. Any tips as to how to nudge him in the right direction so his dream can actually be possible? Perhaps maybe what classes to take in high school, books to read, clear up misconceptions, introduce positions other than architect that still contribute to the industry, what hardware/ software he can use to learn, etc. Thank you all for your time! | f80tibq | f80utjb | 1,574,137,893 | 1,574,138,952 | 1 | 3 | Will get back to you on this. What state are y'all in? | I absolutely love being an architect but want to start off by saying that he should have a clear understanding of the path ahead. I hated that people would tell me “Oh it’s really hard” when I said this is what I wanted to do, but it really is a long, expensive road. It is a minimum four (B.Arch) to six years (M.Arch) at an NCARB accredited university with expensive books, drafting supplies, printing fees, a fancy laptop, and most likely a semester abroad; after graduating there’s 3,700 intern hours and six exams ($235/each) for the license (this takes as little as three years and an average of seven) plus licensing fees and AIA dues, then 12 hours of continuing education every year. The money doesn’t come until you get about 8-10 years in - my first salary was $40,000 (2011) and that was about $5k higher than all my friends. Thankfully I did not have student loans. Onto the fun stuff: Sketching skills are great! I know the future of the field is BIM/AR but sketches are how we communicate basic ideas to each other. I think Sketchup is a good, basic introduction to computer modeling and there’s a free version. He can play around and make all kinds of stuff. I wouldn’t worry too much about a specific program though, as it will probably be different in 10 years when he graduates. If his high school has drafting, modeling, or 3D printing classes, he should take those just for the basic skills. A lot of architecture colleges have summer high school programs - I wish I had done this as it would have opened up more schools to me. Also reach out to your local AIA chapter for events, tours and lectures to attend (better in more metro areas) or for firms that take on high school interns/shadows. Finally, I can’t overstate the value of basic construction knowledge, whether it comes from touring job sites, swinging a hammer at Habitat for Humanity, or a summer office job at a contractor’s office. It keeps us gods humble. :) Good luck to your brother! | 0 | 1,059 | 3 | ||
dyelgk | architecture_train | 0.84 | [ASK] Little brother (14) wants to become an architect. How should I support him? Little bro spends his time drawing sketches of buildings and layouts of commercial buildings such as malls. I'd like to guide and support him but I know nothing about this field. Any tips as to how to nudge him in the right direction so his dream can actually be possible? Perhaps maybe what classes to take in high school, books to read, clear up misconceptions, introduce positions other than architect that still contribute to the industry, what hardware/ software he can use to learn, etc. Thank you all for your time! | f83a60t | f80xv1u | 1,574,207,691 | 1,574,141,811 | 3 | 2 | Very cool how much you want to support him. The biggest misconception about the industry is probably how little math we actually use. There is of course a spectrum to our field that spans from sculptors and artists to programmers and engineers. By and large, however, we are visual people who hone our skills by practicing art. I was happily surprised in my first term of college to find out how much time we'd spend sketching and drafting. Hopefully that's appealing to him! As far as what skills to learn: I took a CAD drafting class in high school that gave me a good head start in college. Sketchup is easy to pick up and I'd encourage him to get comfortable with Rhino to really be able to model digitally. I would not recommend Revit at this early stage as it's extremely technical. Physical modeling is also helpful. I grew up on Legos before moving to paper / cardstock / cardboard sketch modeling. Messy and fast and gives three-dimensional insight you can't get from a page or a screen, plus having the ability to make clean models is a great way to impress professors early on. Regarding reading material. These books made an enormous impression on me: * *101 Things I Learned in Architecture School* * *The Fast Guide to Architectural Form* * Christopher Alexander's *A Pattern Language* * Francis D.K. Ching's *Form, Space, Order* * and Architect? A Candid Guide to the Profession I would highly recommend each and every one to him. All very approachable reading for a 14 year old already sketching commercial spaces. And Bjark Ingel's *Yes is More* is a fun read in graphic novel form. Lastly— reach out to your local AIA chapter. They can connect you and your brother with resources specific to your area including firms to check out / potentially shadow at, scholarships to apply for, and summer programs and other workshops to attend. Best of luck to you both! It's quite a journey and a rewarding one if it fits. I'm happy to talk more if you'd like to message me. | There is a program called the ACE mentor program for high school students interested in architecture, construction and engineering. Look it up and hopefully there is one near you. It’s an after school program that gives high school students a hands on approach to what it’s like to be in the profession, and facetime with professionals in the industry ready to answer questions. When I was in high school I wanted to be an architect too, but realized structural engineering suited my skill set better. Best of luck to your brother and good for you for looking out for him :) | 1 | 65,880 | 1.5 | ||
dyelgk | architecture_train | 0.84 | [ASK] Little brother (14) wants to become an architect. How should I support him? Little bro spends his time drawing sketches of buildings and layouts of commercial buildings such as malls. I'd like to guide and support him but I know nothing about this field. Any tips as to how to nudge him in the right direction so his dream can actually be possible? Perhaps maybe what classes to take in high school, books to read, clear up misconceptions, introduce positions other than architect that still contribute to the industry, what hardware/ software he can use to learn, etc. Thank you all for your time! | f80rec6 | f83a60t | 1,574,136,221 | 1,574,207,691 | 1 | 3 | If he has a student email he can download a copy of Revit. The same might be true for AutoCAD. | Very cool how much you want to support him. The biggest misconception about the industry is probably how little math we actually use. There is of course a spectrum to our field that spans from sculptors and artists to programmers and engineers. By and large, however, we are visual people who hone our skills by practicing art. I was happily surprised in my first term of college to find out how much time we'd spend sketching and drafting. Hopefully that's appealing to him! As far as what skills to learn: I took a CAD drafting class in high school that gave me a good head start in college. Sketchup is easy to pick up and I'd encourage him to get comfortable with Rhino to really be able to model digitally. I would not recommend Revit at this early stage as it's extremely technical. Physical modeling is also helpful. I grew up on Legos before moving to paper / cardstock / cardboard sketch modeling. Messy and fast and gives three-dimensional insight you can't get from a page or a screen, plus having the ability to make clean models is a great way to impress professors early on. Regarding reading material. These books made an enormous impression on me: * *101 Things I Learned in Architecture School* * *The Fast Guide to Architectural Form* * Christopher Alexander's *A Pattern Language* * Francis D.K. Ching's *Form, Space, Order* * and Architect? A Candid Guide to the Profession I would highly recommend each and every one to him. All very approachable reading for a 14 year old already sketching commercial spaces. And Bjark Ingel's *Yes is More* is a fun read in graphic novel form. Lastly— reach out to your local AIA chapter. They can connect you and your brother with resources specific to your area including firms to check out / potentially shadow at, scholarships to apply for, and summer programs and other workshops to attend. Best of luck to you both! It's quite a journey and a rewarding one if it fits. I'm happy to talk more if you'd like to message me. | 0 | 71,470 | 3 | ||
dyelgk | architecture_train | 0.84 | [ASK] Little brother (14) wants to become an architect. How should I support him? Little bro spends his time drawing sketches of buildings and layouts of commercial buildings such as malls. I'd like to guide and support him but I know nothing about this field. Any tips as to how to nudge him in the right direction so his dream can actually be possible? Perhaps maybe what classes to take in high school, books to read, clear up misconceptions, introduce positions other than architect that still contribute to the industry, what hardware/ software he can use to learn, etc. Thank you all for your time! | f83a60t | f80tibq | 1,574,207,691 | 1,574,137,893 | 3 | 1 | Very cool how much you want to support him. The biggest misconception about the industry is probably how little math we actually use. There is of course a spectrum to our field that spans from sculptors and artists to programmers and engineers. By and large, however, we are visual people who hone our skills by practicing art. I was happily surprised in my first term of college to find out how much time we'd spend sketching and drafting. Hopefully that's appealing to him! As far as what skills to learn: I took a CAD drafting class in high school that gave me a good head start in college. Sketchup is easy to pick up and I'd encourage him to get comfortable with Rhino to really be able to model digitally. I would not recommend Revit at this early stage as it's extremely technical. Physical modeling is also helpful. I grew up on Legos before moving to paper / cardstock / cardboard sketch modeling. Messy and fast and gives three-dimensional insight you can't get from a page or a screen, plus having the ability to make clean models is a great way to impress professors early on. Regarding reading material. These books made an enormous impression on me: * *101 Things I Learned in Architecture School* * *The Fast Guide to Architectural Form* * Christopher Alexander's *A Pattern Language* * Francis D.K. Ching's *Form, Space, Order* * and Architect? A Candid Guide to the Profession I would highly recommend each and every one to him. All very approachable reading for a 14 year old already sketching commercial spaces. And Bjark Ingel's *Yes is More* is a fun read in graphic novel form. Lastly— reach out to your local AIA chapter. They can connect you and your brother with resources specific to your area including firms to check out / potentially shadow at, scholarships to apply for, and summer programs and other workshops to attend. Best of luck to you both! It's quite a journey and a rewarding one if it fits. I'm happy to talk more if you'd like to message me. | Will get back to you on this. What state are y'all in? | 1 | 69,798 | 3 | ||
dyelgk | architecture_train | 0.84 | [ASK] Little brother (14) wants to become an architect. How should I support him? Little bro spends his time drawing sketches of buildings and layouts of commercial buildings such as malls. I'd like to guide and support him but I know nothing about this field. Any tips as to how to nudge him in the right direction so his dream can actually be possible? Perhaps maybe what classes to take in high school, books to read, clear up misconceptions, introduce positions other than architect that still contribute to the industry, what hardware/ software he can use to learn, etc. Thank you all for your time! | f80xv1u | f80rec6 | 1,574,141,811 | 1,574,136,221 | 2 | 1 | There is a program called the ACE mentor program for high school students interested in architecture, construction and engineering. Look it up and hopefully there is one near you. It’s an after school program that gives high school students a hands on approach to what it’s like to be in the profession, and facetime with professionals in the industry ready to answer questions. When I was in high school I wanted to be an architect too, but realized structural engineering suited my skill set better. Best of luck to your brother and good for you for looking out for him :) | If he has a student email he can download a copy of Revit. The same might be true for AutoCAD. | 1 | 5,590 | 2 | ||
dyelgk | architecture_train | 0.84 | [ASK] Little brother (14) wants to become an architect. How should I support him? Little bro spends his time drawing sketches of buildings and layouts of commercial buildings such as malls. I'd like to guide and support him but I know nothing about this field. Any tips as to how to nudge him in the right direction so his dream can actually be possible? Perhaps maybe what classes to take in high school, books to read, clear up misconceptions, introduce positions other than architect that still contribute to the industry, what hardware/ software he can use to learn, etc. Thank you all for your time! | f80tibq | f80xv1u | 1,574,137,893 | 1,574,141,811 | 1 | 2 | Will get back to you on this. What state are y'all in? | There is a program called the ACE mentor program for high school students interested in architecture, construction and engineering. Look it up and hopefully there is one near you. It’s an after school program that gives high school students a hands on approach to what it’s like to be in the profession, and facetime with professionals in the industry ready to answer questions. When I was in high school I wanted to be an architect too, but realized structural engineering suited my skill set better. Best of luck to your brother and good for you for looking out for him :) | 0 | 3,918 | 2 | ||
97sc3w | architecture_train | 1 | Other than becoming an architect, what else can you do with an undergrad degree in Arch? [ask] As I approach grad school, I have been wondering this. What other careers are possible to pursue with a BA in architectural design? Does anyone have an arch degree but work in a completely different field? Im simply curious how applicable my degree is to other fields. (This is in United States). What about with a Masters in Arch? I know in some other countries an arch degree is considered applicable to many fields, but not sure in the US. Thanks! | e4aiitn | e4b5myz | 1,534,427,075 | 1,534,446,781 | 3 | 5 | An architecture degree has fewer careers paths than many other degrees. You can work in anything design related if you are talented and have the skillset or go into journalism if you are good at writing. | Like many fields, architecture is developing various specializations such as visualization or technical things like waterproofing. The other day I had a meeting with an owners rep. You can get into the owners rep thing with an arch degree but without being licensed (but you do gotta know how a building goes together so you need to pick up that experience somewhere). Owners rep work requires that you area a leader and know how to wheel an deal. Its a lot of work with coordination and budgets and keeping a project flowing. The upside- you get paid way more than us architect bottom feeders. The downside- no design. | 0 | 19,706 | 1.666667 | ||
venvz0 | architecture_train | 0.78 | What cities/buildings/museums would you recommend to visit for an aspiring architect? I'm a 2nd year architecture student on a gap year, and I plan on returning to school in the spring. Before coming back I wanted to take a trip anywhere that would inspire me or educate me. Seeing the Chicago Architecture Center was a big inspiration for me to study architecture, so I'm hoping to find any place or city to get inspired or learn from as an architecture student. Any recommendations? Thanks. | icqzoao | icr0fhw | 1,655,493,860 | 1,655,494,196 | 3 | 8 | Sintra Portugal. I’m here now as a seasoned architect and it’s amazing | Rome to see the pantheon in person. You could do a bit of a tour of Italy if your funds allow. | 0 | 336 | 2.666667 | ||
venvz0 | architecture_train | 0.78 | What cities/buildings/museums would you recommend to visit for an aspiring architect? I'm a 2nd year architecture student on a gap year, and I plan on returning to school in the spring. Before coming back I wanted to take a trip anywhere that would inspire me or educate me. Seeing the Chicago Architecture Center was a big inspiration for me to study architecture, so I'm hoping to find any place or city to get inspired or learn from as an architecture student. Any recommendations? Thanks. | icr21ev | icqzoao | 1,655,494,908 | 1,655,493,860 | 6 | 3 | Barcelona was incredible, the architecture is gorgeous and the urban design history is really interesting. | Sintra Portugal. I’m here now as a seasoned architect and it’s amazing | 1 | 1,048 | 2 | ||
venvz0 | architecture_train | 0.78 | What cities/buildings/museums would you recommend to visit for an aspiring architect? I'm a 2nd year architecture student on a gap year, and I plan on returning to school in the spring. Before coming back I wanted to take a trip anywhere that would inspire me or educate me. Seeing the Chicago Architecture Center was a big inspiration for me to study architecture, so I'm hoping to find any place or city to get inspired or learn from as an architecture student. Any recommendations? Thanks. | icqzoao | icr12xi | 1,655,493,860 | 1,655,494,484 | 3 | 6 | Sintra Portugal. I’m here now as a seasoned architect and it’s amazing | Mexico City without a doubt It has ancient ruins and pyramids, buildings from every period and style: from what we know as typical Mexican style to a French bourough and multi awarded modern skyscrapers, Mexican baroque, the only Royal Castle in the Americas.... | 0 | 624 | 2 | ||
venvz0 | architecture_train | 0.78 | What cities/buildings/museums would you recommend to visit for an aspiring architect? I'm a 2nd year architecture student on a gap year, and I plan on returning to school in the spring. Before coming back I wanted to take a trip anywhere that would inspire me or educate me. Seeing the Chicago Architecture Center was a big inspiration for me to study architecture, so I'm hoping to find any place or city to get inspired or learn from as an architecture student. Any recommendations? Thanks. | icqzoao | icr32n6 | 1,655,493,860 | 1,655,495,364 | 3 | 6 | Sintra Portugal. I’m here now as a seasoned architect and it’s amazing | Every inch of Italy has something to see and study about architecture | 0 | 1,504 | 2 | ||
venvz0 | architecture_train | 0.78 | What cities/buildings/museums would you recommend to visit for an aspiring architect? I'm a 2nd year architecture student on a gap year, and I plan on returning to school in the spring. Before coming back I wanted to take a trip anywhere that would inspire me or educate me. Seeing the Chicago Architecture Center was a big inspiration for me to study architecture, so I'm hoping to find any place or city to get inspired or learn from as an architecture student. Any recommendations? Thanks. | icqzoao | icr88vr | 1,655,493,860 | 1,655,497,664 | 3 | 5 | Sintra Portugal. I’m here now as a seasoned architect and it’s amazing | Chicago has enough to see and study to keep you busy for the year, if you want to go back. If Europe is a possibility, Brunelleschi's dome in Florence would be my #1 pick. As u/Scoonchtheboss mentioned, the Pantheon is Rome would be another great choice. Asia Minor? I've always wanted to see Hagia Sophia in Istanbul; from drawings and photos it is brilliant how the main dome is supported on half domes. I'm just realizing: maybe I have an obsession with domes... | 0 | 3,804 | 1.666667 | ||
venvz0 | architecture_train | 0.78 | What cities/buildings/museums would you recommend to visit for an aspiring architect? I'm a 2nd year architecture student on a gap year, and I plan on returning to school in the spring. Before coming back I wanted to take a trip anywhere that would inspire me or educate me. Seeing the Chicago Architecture Center was a big inspiration for me to study architecture, so I'm hoping to find any place or city to get inspired or learn from as an architecture student. Any recommendations? Thanks. | icr88vr | icr66fe | 1,655,497,664 | 1,655,496,735 | 5 | 2 | Chicago has enough to see and study to keep you busy for the year, if you want to go back. If Europe is a possibility, Brunelleschi's dome in Florence would be my #1 pick. As u/Scoonchtheboss mentioned, the Pantheon is Rome would be another great choice. Asia Minor? I've always wanted to see Hagia Sophia in Istanbul; from drawings and photos it is brilliant how the main dome is supported on half domes. I'm just realizing: maybe I have an obsession with domes... | Rome has to be top of the list. Italy in general is sort of the cradle of western architecture. Palladios villas, the entire city of Venice. I'd say Greece and the Parthenon is worth visiting but Greece hasn't done as good a job at maintaining their heritage. Many big cities, at least in the western world have something you can take away, but often you have to sort of know a little more about what's going on. There's tons of interesting architecture in NYC, for example, but it might not jump out at you besides the big iconic stuff. Same with Los Angeles. Obviously the major European cities will have much to takeaway and even some of the lesser known cities like the crescents at Bath, for example. If you're in India, New Delhi, designed by Lutyens is worth a visit especially the Viceroy's house. | 1 | 929 | 2.5 | ||
venvz0 | architecture_train | 0.78 | What cities/buildings/museums would you recommend to visit for an aspiring architect? I'm a 2nd year architecture student on a gap year, and I plan on returning to school in the spring. Before coming back I wanted to take a trip anywhere that would inspire me or educate me. Seeing the Chicago Architecture Center was a big inspiration for me to study architecture, so I'm hoping to find any place or city to get inspired or learn from as an architecture student. Any recommendations? Thanks. | icrbm7q | icr66fe | 1,655,499,174 | 1,655,496,735 | 3 | 2 | Go see some Fay Jones work in Fayetteville or Hot Springs, Arkansas | Rome has to be top of the list. Italy in general is sort of the cradle of western architecture. Palladios villas, the entire city of Venice. I'd say Greece and the Parthenon is worth visiting but Greece hasn't done as good a job at maintaining their heritage. Many big cities, at least in the western world have something you can take away, but often you have to sort of know a little more about what's going on. There's tons of interesting architecture in NYC, for example, but it might not jump out at you besides the big iconic stuff. Same with Los Angeles. Obviously the major European cities will have much to takeaway and even some of the lesser known cities like the crescents at Bath, for example. If you're in India, New Delhi, designed by Lutyens is worth a visit especially the Viceroy's house. | 1 | 2,439 | 1.5 | ||
venvz0 | architecture_train | 0.78 | What cities/buildings/museums would you recommend to visit for an aspiring architect? I'm a 2nd year architecture student on a gap year, and I plan on returning to school in the spring. Before coming back I wanted to take a trip anywhere that would inspire me or educate me. Seeing the Chicago Architecture Center was a big inspiration for me to study architecture, so I'm hoping to find any place or city to get inspired or learn from as an architecture student. Any recommendations? Thanks. | icr66fe | ics41xl | 1,655,496,735 | 1,655,513,106 | 2 | 3 | Rome has to be top of the list. Italy in general is sort of the cradle of western architecture. Palladios villas, the entire city of Venice. I'd say Greece and the Parthenon is worth visiting but Greece hasn't done as good a job at maintaining their heritage. Many big cities, at least in the western world have something you can take away, but often you have to sort of know a little more about what's going on. There's tons of interesting architecture in NYC, for example, but it might not jump out at you besides the big iconic stuff. Same with Los Angeles. Obviously the major European cities will have much to takeaway and even some of the lesser known cities like the crescents at Bath, for example. If you're in India, New Delhi, designed by Lutyens is worth a visit especially the Viceroy's house. | I’d say that São Paulo seems amazing from an architectural standpoint, but that’s my personal taste. Much of American architecture is influenced by Greek and Roman works, so I’d easily recommend Athens and Rome especially if you’re American. Budapest is also amazing in regards to Gothic architecture. In terms of African architecture, there’s Djenne, Timbuktu, and Ghardaia. | 0 | 16,371 | 1.5 | ||
venvz0 | architecture_train | 0.78 | What cities/buildings/museums would you recommend to visit for an aspiring architect? I'm a 2nd year architecture student on a gap year, and I plan on returning to school in the spring. Before coming back I wanted to take a trip anywhere that would inspire me or educate me. Seeing the Chicago Architecture Center was a big inspiration for me to study architecture, so I'm hoping to find any place or city to get inspired or learn from as an architecture student. Any recommendations? Thanks. | ics41xl | icrir5z | 1,655,513,106 | 1,655,502,477 | 3 | 1 | I’d say that São Paulo seems amazing from an architectural standpoint, but that’s my personal taste. Much of American architecture is influenced by Greek and Roman works, so I’d easily recommend Athens and Rome especially if you’re American. Budapest is also amazing in regards to Gothic architecture. In terms of African architecture, there’s Djenne, Timbuktu, and Ghardaia. | Paris and Rome would be the two biggies. | 1 | 10,629 | 3 | ||
bem8mc | architecture_train | 0.88 | [ask] Too late to become an architect? A question for all the pros here... I'm 32 now. Wanted to be an architect since I was a little kid, and was all about it until I got sidetracked into music in high school. Ended up going to school for music composition right out of high school (got the bachelor's). Went back to school at the community college for a CAD drafting certificate three years ago, and have been working in that field ever since (specifically for an HVAC contractor). I've never been able to shake the feeling that I made the wrong decision by not going into architecture straight out of high school. I've come close over the years to actually doing something about it. Is it realistically too late now? | el6ujsn | el6vaqu | 1,555,599,239 | 1,555,599,727 | 4 | 25 | Great dedication even thinking about it. These may sound sad so sorry in advance. And of course it's possible. Since you did not specify where you live, I'm assuming you are capable of finding a school that'd accept you. If you found one, there is the money and time aspect, I'm not 32 years old but if you have the amount required for the school, living etc. saved up, there is only the time aspect. Where I studied, architecture means too much time spent in university's architecture studios, drawing or making models of said drawings. So if you plan to work for 4-5 years while studying, you better prepare mentally as well. After graduation is a bit of a problem too. You'd be 36-37 and starting a career from scratch. Usually, people at your age would be supervisors so you should get used to that even if a company accepts you. But it's never an impossible situation. Hope you achieve what you want. | Do it do it do it do it do it. Just do it. | 0 | 488 | 6.25 | ||
bem8mc | architecture_train | 0.88 | [ask] Too late to become an architect? A question for all the pros here... I'm 32 now. Wanted to be an architect since I was a little kid, and was all about it until I got sidetracked into music in high school. Ended up going to school for music composition right out of high school (got the bachelor's). Went back to school at the community college for a CAD drafting certificate three years ago, and have been working in that field ever since (specifically for an HVAC contractor). I've never been able to shake the feeling that I made the wrong decision by not going into architecture straight out of high school. I've come close over the years to actually doing something about it. Is it realistically too late now? | el6ujsn | el6ve56 | 1,555,599,239 | 1,555,599,790 | 4 | 20 | Great dedication even thinking about it. These may sound sad so sorry in advance. And of course it's possible. Since you did not specify where you live, I'm assuming you are capable of finding a school that'd accept you. If you found one, there is the money and time aspect, I'm not 32 years old but if you have the amount required for the school, living etc. saved up, there is only the time aspect. Where I studied, architecture means too much time spent in university's architecture studios, drawing or making models of said drawings. So if you plan to work for 4-5 years while studying, you better prepare mentally as well. After graduation is a bit of a problem too. You'd be 36-37 and starting a career from scratch. Usually, people at your age would be supervisors so you should get used to that even if a company accepts you. But it's never an impossible situation. Hope you achieve what you want. | Since you have a bachelors you could apply for a 3 year masters of arch 1 program. No, it’s not too late if you’re interested, though it might be tough retraining yourself to think as a designer. Go for it! | 0 | 551 | 5 | ||
bem8mc | architecture_train | 0.88 | [ask] Too late to become an architect? A question for all the pros here... I'm 32 now. Wanted to be an architect since I was a little kid, and was all about it until I got sidetracked into music in high school. Ended up going to school for music composition right out of high school (got the bachelor's). Went back to school at the community college for a CAD drafting certificate three years ago, and have been working in that field ever since (specifically for an HVAC contractor). I've never been able to shake the feeling that I made the wrong decision by not going into architecture straight out of high school. I've come close over the years to actually doing something about it. Is it realistically too late now? | el6xtqz | el6xwrj | 1,555,601,355 | 1,555,601,411 | 7 | 8 | It's never too late. I had guys in their 30's in my graduating class. I even had one guy who was I think in his 50's. His kids had moved away and he'd been a handyman/contractor type of fellow his whole life and wanted to get into designwork instead. Larry was awesome. Anway, it's not too late, but know what you're getting into and see how that fits into your life plans. Becoming a licensed architect is a *long* process and you're going to be competing with people 10+ years your junior for jobs when you're out. To get licensed, you need 3 things generally (in America, with minor differences between states so do your research for your state) - A professional degree (either a 5-year B.Arch or a M.Arch) Since you have a Bachelor's in music composition, I would suggest the M.Arch route, which will likely be around 3 years for you. Maybe a little less since you already are a draftsman and know CAD. You're going to want to learn Revit while you're there though, too. - Apprenticeship - you need to do a minimum 2.5 years of work under a licensed architect and log all of your hours with an organization called NCARB. The minimum hours will vary by state. These hours need to fill up various categories to make sure you have experience in a lot of aspects of the profession, so it will likely take you more than the minimum number of hours to complete as some categories you'll have a ton in, while others you might struggle to get the opportunity to work on. - Pass the exams. A series of 5 exams which are very difficult. People rarely pass all of them the first time through. Generally expect to spend several months studying for each one. So starting now, you're likely to be 40ish by the time you get your license. You can probably shave a few years off that if you really push yourself. For example, you can take the exams while working on your hours, you don't have to wait and do them after. When you graduate, you'll be 35ish and competing for the salary of someone just out of school at 22. This will likely be in the 30-50k range depending on what part of the country you're in. You might be able to command more money due to your past drafting and HVAC experience, you won't be a total noob so won't be as much of a risk for a firm to hire and start training. Architecture involves a lot of the kind of drafting you're used to already, where you're just working through details and coordination and producing sheets. *edit* One big difference as I think about it more is that rather than just worrying about one trade (HVAC) your role will be more to coordinate all the roles along with your aesthetic design and office standards. The 'fun' part you might be thinking about is really only 25-30% of the work at best. But it is pretty fun :) I would suggest it if you think it's really what you want to do. It's a really rewarding profession despite headaches and heartaches. Just know what you're getting into if you choose that route. | It's not too late, but honestly, don't do it. Schooling will take years then you get to look forward to your basic office grind. This will likely be an unpopular opinion in this subreddit, but it's the truth. Sure there are exceptions, but uou will likely be doing plenty of unfulfilling work dealing for clients who think they know better than you while making not enough money. My boss had an amazing setup (essentially fed work by other companies we work closely with) to start his firm and he is still constantly stressed and busy yet we are barely turning a profit. If you enjoy architecture, maybe see how it feels as a hobby. All of the programs are readily available and there is limitless educational material online. Once you get a feel for things you could enter architecture competitions. Good luck! | 0 | 56 | 1.142857 | ||
bem8mc | architecture_train | 0.88 | [ask] Too late to become an architect? A question for all the pros here... I'm 32 now. Wanted to be an architect since I was a little kid, and was all about it until I got sidetracked into music in high school. Ended up going to school for music composition right out of high school (got the bachelor's). Went back to school at the community college for a CAD drafting certificate three years ago, and have been working in that field ever since (specifically for an HVAC contractor). I've never been able to shake the feeling that I made the wrong decision by not going into architecture straight out of high school. I've come close over the years to actually doing something about it. Is it realistically too late now? | el6xwrj | el6xs54 | 1,555,601,411 | 1,555,601,325 | 8 | 7 | It's not too late, but honestly, don't do it. Schooling will take years then you get to look forward to your basic office grind. This will likely be an unpopular opinion in this subreddit, but it's the truth. Sure there are exceptions, but uou will likely be doing plenty of unfulfilling work dealing for clients who think they know better than you while making not enough money. My boss had an amazing setup (essentially fed work by other companies we work closely with) to start his firm and he is still constantly stressed and busy yet we are barely turning a profit. If you enjoy architecture, maybe see how it feels as a hobby. All of the programs are readily available and there is limitless educational material online. Once you get a feel for things you could enter architecture competitions. Good luck! | its never to late to live your dreams :\] | 1 | 86 | 1.142857 | ||
bem8mc | architecture_train | 0.88 | [ask] Too late to become an architect? A question for all the pros here... I'm 32 now. Wanted to be an architect since I was a little kid, and was all about it until I got sidetracked into music in high school. Ended up going to school for music composition right out of high school (got the bachelor's). Went back to school at the community college for a CAD drafting certificate three years ago, and have been working in that field ever since (specifically for an HVAC contractor). I've never been able to shake the feeling that I made the wrong decision by not going into architecture straight out of high school. I've come close over the years to actually doing something about it. Is it realistically too late now? | el6xwrj | el6wnri | 1,555,601,411 | 1,555,600,614 | 8 | 5 | It's not too late, but honestly, don't do it. Schooling will take years then you get to look forward to your basic office grind. This will likely be an unpopular opinion in this subreddit, but it's the truth. Sure there are exceptions, but uou will likely be doing plenty of unfulfilling work dealing for clients who think they know better than you while making not enough money. My boss had an amazing setup (essentially fed work by other companies we work closely with) to start his firm and he is still constantly stressed and busy yet we are barely turning a profit. If you enjoy architecture, maybe see how it feels as a hobby. All of the programs are readily available and there is limitless educational material online. Once you get a feel for things you could enter architecture competitions. Good luck! | Not too late, graduated in my thirties just starting now | 1 | 797 | 1.6 | ||
bem8mc | architecture_train | 0.88 | [ask] Too late to become an architect? A question for all the pros here... I'm 32 now. Wanted to be an architect since I was a little kid, and was all about it until I got sidetracked into music in high school. Ended up going to school for music composition right out of high school (got the bachelor's). Went back to school at the community college for a CAD drafting certificate three years ago, and have been working in that field ever since (specifically for an HVAC contractor). I've never been able to shake the feeling that I made the wrong decision by not going into architecture straight out of high school. I've come close over the years to actually doing something about it. Is it realistically too late now? | el6ujsn | el6xwrj | 1,555,599,239 | 1,555,601,411 | 4 | 8 | Great dedication even thinking about it. These may sound sad so sorry in advance. And of course it's possible. Since you did not specify where you live, I'm assuming you are capable of finding a school that'd accept you. If you found one, there is the money and time aspect, I'm not 32 years old but if you have the amount required for the school, living etc. saved up, there is only the time aspect. Where I studied, architecture means too much time spent in university's architecture studios, drawing or making models of said drawings. So if you plan to work for 4-5 years while studying, you better prepare mentally as well. After graduation is a bit of a problem too. You'd be 36-37 and starting a career from scratch. Usually, people at your age would be supervisors so you should get used to that even if a company accepts you. But it's never an impossible situation. Hope you achieve what you want. | It's not too late, but honestly, don't do it. Schooling will take years then you get to look forward to your basic office grind. This will likely be an unpopular opinion in this subreddit, but it's the truth. Sure there are exceptions, but uou will likely be doing plenty of unfulfilling work dealing for clients who think they know better than you while making not enough money. My boss had an amazing setup (essentially fed work by other companies we work closely with) to start his firm and he is still constantly stressed and busy yet we are barely turning a profit. If you enjoy architecture, maybe see how it feels as a hobby. All of the programs are readily available and there is limitless educational material online. Once you get a feel for things you could enter architecture competitions. Good luck! | 0 | 2,172 | 2 | ||
bem8mc | architecture_train | 0.88 | [ask] Too late to become an architect? A question for all the pros here... I'm 32 now. Wanted to be an architect since I was a little kid, and was all about it until I got sidetracked into music in high school. Ended up going to school for music composition right out of high school (got the bachelor's). Went back to school at the community college for a CAD drafting certificate three years ago, and have been working in that field ever since (specifically for an HVAC contractor). I've never been able to shake the feeling that I made the wrong decision by not going into architecture straight out of high school. I've come close over the years to actually doing something about it. Is it realistically too late now? | el6xwrj | el6xde4 | 1,555,601,411 | 1,555,601,063 | 8 | 2 | It's not too late, but honestly, don't do it. Schooling will take years then you get to look forward to your basic office grind. This will likely be an unpopular opinion in this subreddit, but it's the truth. Sure there are exceptions, but uou will likely be doing plenty of unfulfilling work dealing for clients who think they know better than you while making not enough money. My boss had an amazing setup (essentially fed work by other companies we work closely with) to start his firm and he is still constantly stressed and busy yet we are barely turning a profit. If you enjoy architecture, maybe see how it feels as a hobby. All of the programs are readily available and there is limitless educational material online. Once you get a feel for things you could enter architecture competitions. Good luck! | If you give it some thought and decide that architecture is truly what you want to do and you are willing to put in the time and money to earn a master's degree, do NOT let age be a factor in your decision. Just do it. In this field many people's careers do not peak until much later in life compared to others. If you put in the work in your thirties you will have decades ahead of career progression. | 1 | 348 | 4 | ||
bem8mc | architecture_train | 0.88 | [ask] Too late to become an architect? A question for all the pros here... I'm 32 now. Wanted to be an architect since I was a little kid, and was all about it until I got sidetracked into music in high school. Ended up going to school for music composition right out of high school (got the bachelor's). Went back to school at the community college for a CAD drafting certificate three years ago, and have been working in that field ever since (specifically for an HVAC contractor). I've never been able to shake the feeling that I made the wrong decision by not going into architecture straight out of high school. I've come close over the years to actually doing something about it. Is it realistically too late now? | el77ens | el6xtqz | 1,555,607,531 | 1,555,601,355 | 8 | 7 | Late? Started at 48 and I'm gonna be an Architect next year. I am enjoying every moment of it and I am always at top three of my class. If you love it don't hesitate, we only live once! Good luck | It's never too late. I had guys in their 30's in my graduating class. I even had one guy who was I think in his 50's. His kids had moved away and he'd been a handyman/contractor type of fellow his whole life and wanted to get into designwork instead. Larry was awesome. Anway, it's not too late, but know what you're getting into and see how that fits into your life plans. Becoming a licensed architect is a *long* process and you're going to be competing with people 10+ years your junior for jobs when you're out. To get licensed, you need 3 things generally (in America, with minor differences between states so do your research for your state) - A professional degree (either a 5-year B.Arch or a M.Arch) Since you have a Bachelor's in music composition, I would suggest the M.Arch route, which will likely be around 3 years for you. Maybe a little less since you already are a draftsman and know CAD. You're going to want to learn Revit while you're there though, too. - Apprenticeship - you need to do a minimum 2.5 years of work under a licensed architect and log all of your hours with an organization called NCARB. The minimum hours will vary by state. These hours need to fill up various categories to make sure you have experience in a lot of aspects of the profession, so it will likely take you more than the minimum number of hours to complete as some categories you'll have a ton in, while others you might struggle to get the opportunity to work on. - Pass the exams. A series of 5 exams which are very difficult. People rarely pass all of them the first time through. Generally expect to spend several months studying for each one. So starting now, you're likely to be 40ish by the time you get your license. You can probably shave a few years off that if you really push yourself. For example, you can take the exams while working on your hours, you don't have to wait and do them after. When you graduate, you'll be 35ish and competing for the salary of someone just out of school at 22. This will likely be in the 30-50k range depending on what part of the country you're in. You might be able to command more money due to your past drafting and HVAC experience, you won't be a total noob so won't be as much of a risk for a firm to hire and start training. Architecture involves a lot of the kind of drafting you're used to already, where you're just working through details and coordination and producing sheets. *edit* One big difference as I think about it more is that rather than just worrying about one trade (HVAC) your role will be more to coordinate all the roles along with your aesthetic design and office standards. The 'fun' part you might be thinking about is really only 25-30% of the work at best. But it is pretty fun :) I would suggest it if you think it's really what you want to do. It's a really rewarding profession despite headaches and heartaches. Just know what you're getting into if you choose that route. | 1 | 6,176 | 1.142857 | ||
bem8mc | architecture_train | 0.88 | [ask] Too late to become an architect? A question for all the pros here... I'm 32 now. Wanted to be an architect since I was a little kid, and was all about it until I got sidetracked into music in high school. Ended up going to school for music composition right out of high school (got the bachelor's). Went back to school at the community college for a CAD drafting certificate three years ago, and have been working in that field ever since (specifically for an HVAC contractor). I've never been able to shake the feeling that I made the wrong decision by not going into architecture straight out of high school. I've come close over the years to actually doing something about it. Is it realistically too late now? | el72cdx | el77ens | 1,555,604,338 | 1,555,607,531 | 7 | 8 | 32 y.o. student here (last year of master). It's never too late. 🙂 | Late? Started at 48 and I'm gonna be an Architect next year. I am enjoying every moment of it and I am always at top three of my class. If you love it don't hesitate, we only live once! Good luck | 0 | 3,193 | 1.142857 | ||
bem8mc | architecture_train | 0.88 | [ask] Too late to become an architect? A question for all the pros here... I'm 32 now. Wanted to be an architect since I was a little kid, and was all about it until I got sidetracked into music in high school. Ended up going to school for music composition right out of high school (got the bachelor's). Went back to school at the community college for a CAD drafting certificate three years ago, and have been working in that field ever since (specifically for an HVAC contractor). I've never been able to shake the feeling that I made the wrong decision by not going into architecture straight out of high school. I've come close over the years to actually doing something about it. Is it realistically too late now? | el6xs54 | el77ens | 1,555,601,325 | 1,555,607,531 | 7 | 8 | its never to late to live your dreams :\] | Late? Started at 48 and I'm gonna be an Architect next year. I am enjoying every moment of it and I am always at top three of my class. If you love it don't hesitate, we only live once! Good luck | 0 | 6,206 | 1.142857 | ||
bem8mc | architecture_train | 0.88 | [ask] Too late to become an architect? A question for all the pros here... I'm 32 now. Wanted to be an architect since I was a little kid, and was all about it until I got sidetracked into music in high school. Ended up going to school for music composition right out of high school (got the bachelor's). Went back to school at the community college for a CAD drafting certificate three years ago, and have been working in that field ever since (specifically for an HVAC contractor). I've never been able to shake the feeling that I made the wrong decision by not going into architecture straight out of high school. I've come close over the years to actually doing something about it. Is it realistically too late now? | el6wnri | el77ens | 1,555,600,614 | 1,555,607,531 | 5 | 8 | Not too late, graduated in my thirties just starting now | Late? Started at 48 and I'm gonna be an Architect next year. I am enjoying every moment of it and I am always at top three of my class. If you love it don't hesitate, we only live once! Good luck | 0 | 6,917 | 1.6 | ||
bem8mc | architecture_train | 0.88 | [ask] Too late to become an architect? A question for all the pros here... I'm 32 now. Wanted to be an architect since I was a little kid, and was all about it until I got sidetracked into music in high school. Ended up going to school for music composition right out of high school (got the bachelor's). Went back to school at the community college for a CAD drafting certificate three years ago, and have been working in that field ever since (specifically for an HVAC contractor). I've never been able to shake the feeling that I made the wrong decision by not going into architecture straight out of high school. I've come close over the years to actually doing something about it. Is it realistically too late now? | el6ujsn | el77ens | 1,555,599,239 | 1,555,607,531 | 4 | 8 | Great dedication even thinking about it. These may sound sad so sorry in advance. And of course it's possible. Since you did not specify where you live, I'm assuming you are capable of finding a school that'd accept you. If you found one, there is the money and time aspect, I'm not 32 years old but if you have the amount required for the school, living etc. saved up, there is only the time aspect. Where I studied, architecture means too much time spent in university's architecture studios, drawing or making models of said drawings. So if you plan to work for 4-5 years while studying, you better prepare mentally as well. After graduation is a bit of a problem too. You'd be 36-37 and starting a career from scratch. Usually, people at your age would be supervisors so you should get used to that even if a company accepts you. But it's never an impossible situation. Hope you achieve what you want. | Late? Started at 48 and I'm gonna be an Architect next year. I am enjoying every moment of it and I am always at top three of my class. If you love it don't hesitate, we only live once! Good luck | 0 | 8,292 | 2 | ||
bem8mc | architecture_train | 0.88 | [ask] Too late to become an architect? A question for all the pros here... I'm 32 now. Wanted to be an architect since I was a little kid, and was all about it until I got sidetracked into music in high school. Ended up going to school for music composition right out of high school (got the bachelor's). Went back to school at the community college for a CAD drafting certificate three years ago, and have been working in that field ever since (specifically for an HVAC contractor). I've never been able to shake the feeling that I made the wrong decision by not going into architecture straight out of high school. I've come close over the years to actually doing something about it. Is it realistically too late now? | el77ens | el706vh | 1,555,607,531 | 1,555,602,914 | 8 | 3 | Late? Started at 48 and I'm gonna be an Architect next year. I am enjoying every moment of it and I am always at top three of my class. If you love it don't hesitate, we only live once! Good luck | As someone said, a 3 years Masters is an option for you. As a grad student, you'll have other non-traditional aged students around as well. The hardest thing for you will be transitioning from the technical work you are currently doing towards "academic architecture," which in most programs doesn't have much to do with technical things and is more about theory, design process and how to communicate those things. Edit: Also, studying architecture is a commitment, and it will take up almost every waking hour you have, as well as a number of sleeping hours too. If you are someone that likes hanging out with friends at night or on the weekend, likes to go out and party, or has an important social life, A-School is going to be a hard shock. Your studio professors will not care about anything outside studio, and the workload for studio alone is huge. You'll have to even squeeze in time for your other classes. This was by far the toughest thing for the older students in my undergrad and grad programs to adjust to- they were used to a 8-5 workday with free weekends and it was difficult for them to realize that wouldn't cut it. | 1 | 4,617 | 2.666667 | ||
bem8mc | architecture_train | 0.88 | [ask] Too late to become an architect? A question for all the pros here... I'm 32 now. Wanted to be an architect since I was a little kid, and was all about it until I got sidetracked into music in high school. Ended up going to school for music composition right out of high school (got the bachelor's). Went back to school at the community college for a CAD drafting certificate three years ago, and have been working in that field ever since (specifically for an HVAC contractor). I've never been able to shake the feeling that I made the wrong decision by not going into architecture straight out of high school. I've come close over the years to actually doing something about it. Is it realistically too late now? | el77ens | el6xde4 | 1,555,607,531 | 1,555,601,063 | 8 | 2 | Late? Started at 48 and I'm gonna be an Architect next year. I am enjoying every moment of it and I am always at top three of my class. If you love it don't hesitate, we only live once! Good luck | If you give it some thought and decide that architecture is truly what you want to do and you are willing to put in the time and money to earn a master's degree, do NOT let age be a factor in your decision. Just do it. In this field many people's careers do not peak until much later in life compared to others. If you put in the work in your thirties you will have decades ahead of career progression. | 1 | 6,468 | 4 | ||
bem8mc | architecture_train | 0.88 | [ask] Too late to become an architect? A question for all the pros here... I'm 32 now. Wanted to be an architect since I was a little kid, and was all about it until I got sidetracked into music in high school. Ended up going to school for music composition right out of high school (got the bachelor's). Went back to school at the community college for a CAD drafting certificate three years ago, and have been working in that field ever since (specifically for an HVAC contractor). I've never been able to shake the feeling that I made the wrong decision by not going into architecture straight out of high school. I've come close over the years to actually doing something about it. Is it realistically too late now? | el70pa7 | el77ens | 1,555,603,253 | 1,555,607,531 | 2 | 8 | I graduated from a 5 year bachelor program at 32 years old. It's a HARD program so if you have a family or health issues you may not be able to keep up. My husband had my back, and I graduated with honors, so I would say age is not a limiting factor by itself. They do say that architects never retire, so it isn't to late to start. | Late? Started at 48 and I'm gonna be an Architect next year. I am enjoying every moment of it and I am always at top three of my class. If you love it don't hesitate, we only live once! Good luck | 0 | 4,278 | 4 | ||
bem8mc | architecture_train | 0.88 | [ask] Too late to become an architect? A question for all the pros here... I'm 32 now. Wanted to be an architect since I was a little kid, and was all about it until I got sidetracked into music in high school. Ended up going to school for music composition right out of high school (got the bachelor's). Went back to school at the community college for a CAD drafting certificate three years ago, and have been working in that field ever since (specifically for an HVAC contractor). I've never been able to shake the feeling that I made the wrong decision by not going into architecture straight out of high school. I've come close over the years to actually doing something about it. Is it realistically too late now? | el77ens | el7575k | 1,555,607,531 | 1,555,606,153 | 8 | 2 | Late? Started at 48 and I'm gonna be an Architect next year. I am enjoying every moment of it and I am always at top three of my class. If you love it don't hesitate, we only live once! Good luck | No! never too late. One of my favorite teachers and (IMO) one of the best architects in Mexico started his own firm at 32 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel\_Rojkind (he was the drummer of a very popular synth pop band in Mexico before and after architecture school). Architecture school is grueling. I believe it is mainly because they teach you how to "speak architect" (how to represent certain stuff, how design process works, law and planning, how to use certain software) and from what I read you already have some knowledge and most importantly, you have the drive. | 1 | 1,378 | 4 | ||
bem8mc | architecture_train | 0.88 | [ask] Too late to become an architect? A question for all the pros here... I'm 32 now. Wanted to be an architect since I was a little kid, and was all about it until I got sidetracked into music in high school. Ended up going to school for music composition right out of high school (got the bachelor's). Went back to school at the community college for a CAD drafting certificate three years ago, and have been working in that field ever since (specifically for an HVAC contractor). I've never been able to shake the feeling that I made the wrong decision by not going into architecture straight out of high school. I've come close over the years to actually doing something about it. Is it realistically too late now? | el6xtqz | el6wnri | 1,555,601,355 | 1,555,600,614 | 7 | 5 | It's never too late. I had guys in their 30's in my graduating class. I even had one guy who was I think in his 50's. His kids had moved away and he'd been a handyman/contractor type of fellow his whole life and wanted to get into designwork instead. Larry was awesome. Anway, it's not too late, but know what you're getting into and see how that fits into your life plans. Becoming a licensed architect is a *long* process and you're going to be competing with people 10+ years your junior for jobs when you're out. To get licensed, you need 3 things generally (in America, with minor differences between states so do your research for your state) - A professional degree (either a 5-year B.Arch or a M.Arch) Since you have a Bachelor's in music composition, I would suggest the M.Arch route, which will likely be around 3 years for you. Maybe a little less since you already are a draftsman and know CAD. You're going to want to learn Revit while you're there though, too. - Apprenticeship - you need to do a minimum 2.5 years of work under a licensed architect and log all of your hours with an organization called NCARB. The minimum hours will vary by state. These hours need to fill up various categories to make sure you have experience in a lot of aspects of the profession, so it will likely take you more than the minimum number of hours to complete as some categories you'll have a ton in, while others you might struggle to get the opportunity to work on. - Pass the exams. A series of 5 exams which are very difficult. People rarely pass all of them the first time through. Generally expect to spend several months studying for each one. So starting now, you're likely to be 40ish by the time you get your license. You can probably shave a few years off that if you really push yourself. For example, you can take the exams while working on your hours, you don't have to wait and do them after. When you graduate, you'll be 35ish and competing for the salary of someone just out of school at 22. This will likely be in the 30-50k range depending on what part of the country you're in. You might be able to command more money due to your past drafting and HVAC experience, you won't be a total noob so won't be as much of a risk for a firm to hire and start training. Architecture involves a lot of the kind of drafting you're used to already, where you're just working through details and coordination and producing sheets. *edit* One big difference as I think about it more is that rather than just worrying about one trade (HVAC) your role will be more to coordinate all the roles along with your aesthetic design and office standards. The 'fun' part you might be thinking about is really only 25-30% of the work at best. But it is pretty fun :) I would suggest it if you think it's really what you want to do. It's a really rewarding profession despite headaches and heartaches. Just know what you're getting into if you choose that route. | Not too late, graduated in my thirties just starting now | 1 | 741 | 1.4 | ||
bem8mc | architecture_train | 0.88 | [ask] Too late to become an architect? A question for all the pros here... I'm 32 now. Wanted to be an architect since I was a little kid, and was all about it until I got sidetracked into music in high school. Ended up going to school for music composition right out of high school (got the bachelor's). Went back to school at the community college for a CAD drafting certificate three years ago, and have been working in that field ever since (specifically for an HVAC contractor). I've never been able to shake the feeling that I made the wrong decision by not going into architecture straight out of high school. I've come close over the years to actually doing something about it. Is it realistically too late now? | el6xtqz | el6ujsn | 1,555,601,355 | 1,555,599,239 | 7 | 4 | It's never too late. I had guys in their 30's in my graduating class. I even had one guy who was I think in his 50's. His kids had moved away and he'd been a handyman/contractor type of fellow his whole life and wanted to get into designwork instead. Larry was awesome. Anway, it's not too late, but know what you're getting into and see how that fits into your life plans. Becoming a licensed architect is a *long* process and you're going to be competing with people 10+ years your junior for jobs when you're out. To get licensed, you need 3 things generally (in America, with minor differences between states so do your research for your state) - A professional degree (either a 5-year B.Arch or a M.Arch) Since you have a Bachelor's in music composition, I would suggest the M.Arch route, which will likely be around 3 years for you. Maybe a little less since you already are a draftsman and know CAD. You're going to want to learn Revit while you're there though, too. - Apprenticeship - you need to do a minimum 2.5 years of work under a licensed architect and log all of your hours with an organization called NCARB. The minimum hours will vary by state. These hours need to fill up various categories to make sure you have experience in a lot of aspects of the profession, so it will likely take you more than the minimum number of hours to complete as some categories you'll have a ton in, while others you might struggle to get the opportunity to work on. - Pass the exams. A series of 5 exams which are very difficult. People rarely pass all of them the first time through. Generally expect to spend several months studying for each one. So starting now, you're likely to be 40ish by the time you get your license. You can probably shave a few years off that if you really push yourself. For example, you can take the exams while working on your hours, you don't have to wait and do them after. When you graduate, you'll be 35ish and competing for the salary of someone just out of school at 22. This will likely be in the 30-50k range depending on what part of the country you're in. You might be able to command more money due to your past drafting and HVAC experience, you won't be a total noob so won't be as much of a risk for a firm to hire and start training. Architecture involves a lot of the kind of drafting you're used to already, where you're just working through details and coordination and producing sheets. *edit* One big difference as I think about it more is that rather than just worrying about one trade (HVAC) your role will be more to coordinate all the roles along with your aesthetic design and office standards. The 'fun' part you might be thinking about is really only 25-30% of the work at best. But it is pretty fun :) I would suggest it if you think it's really what you want to do. It's a really rewarding profession despite headaches and heartaches. Just know what you're getting into if you choose that route. | Great dedication even thinking about it. These may sound sad so sorry in advance. And of course it's possible. Since you did not specify where you live, I'm assuming you are capable of finding a school that'd accept you. If you found one, there is the money and time aspect, I'm not 32 years old but if you have the amount required for the school, living etc. saved up, there is only the time aspect. Where I studied, architecture means too much time spent in university's architecture studios, drawing or making models of said drawings. So if you plan to work for 4-5 years while studying, you better prepare mentally as well. After graduation is a bit of a problem too. You'd be 36-37 and starting a career from scratch. Usually, people at your age would be supervisors so you should get used to that even if a company accepts you. But it's never an impossible situation. Hope you achieve what you want. | 1 | 2,116 | 1.75 | ||
bem8mc | architecture_train | 0.88 | [ask] Too late to become an architect? A question for all the pros here... I'm 32 now. Wanted to be an architect since I was a little kid, and was all about it until I got sidetracked into music in high school. Ended up going to school for music composition right out of high school (got the bachelor's). Went back to school at the community college for a CAD drafting certificate three years ago, and have been working in that field ever since (specifically for an HVAC contractor). I've never been able to shake the feeling that I made the wrong decision by not going into architecture straight out of high school. I've come close over the years to actually doing something about it. Is it realistically too late now? | el6xde4 | el6xtqz | 1,555,601,063 | 1,555,601,355 | 2 | 7 | If you give it some thought and decide that architecture is truly what you want to do and you are willing to put in the time and money to earn a master's degree, do NOT let age be a factor in your decision. Just do it. In this field many people's careers do not peak until much later in life compared to others. If you put in the work in your thirties you will have decades ahead of career progression. | It's never too late. I had guys in their 30's in my graduating class. I even had one guy who was I think in his 50's. His kids had moved away and he'd been a handyman/contractor type of fellow his whole life and wanted to get into designwork instead. Larry was awesome. Anway, it's not too late, but know what you're getting into and see how that fits into your life plans. Becoming a licensed architect is a *long* process and you're going to be competing with people 10+ years your junior for jobs when you're out. To get licensed, you need 3 things generally (in America, with minor differences between states so do your research for your state) - A professional degree (either a 5-year B.Arch or a M.Arch) Since you have a Bachelor's in music composition, I would suggest the M.Arch route, which will likely be around 3 years for you. Maybe a little less since you already are a draftsman and know CAD. You're going to want to learn Revit while you're there though, too. - Apprenticeship - you need to do a minimum 2.5 years of work under a licensed architect and log all of your hours with an organization called NCARB. The minimum hours will vary by state. These hours need to fill up various categories to make sure you have experience in a lot of aspects of the profession, so it will likely take you more than the minimum number of hours to complete as some categories you'll have a ton in, while others you might struggle to get the opportunity to work on. - Pass the exams. A series of 5 exams which are very difficult. People rarely pass all of them the first time through. Generally expect to spend several months studying for each one. So starting now, you're likely to be 40ish by the time you get your license. You can probably shave a few years off that if you really push yourself. For example, you can take the exams while working on your hours, you don't have to wait and do them after. When you graduate, you'll be 35ish and competing for the salary of someone just out of school at 22. This will likely be in the 30-50k range depending on what part of the country you're in. You might be able to command more money due to your past drafting and HVAC experience, you won't be a total noob so won't be as much of a risk for a firm to hire and start training. Architecture involves a lot of the kind of drafting you're used to already, where you're just working through details and coordination and producing sheets. *edit* One big difference as I think about it more is that rather than just worrying about one trade (HVAC) your role will be more to coordinate all the roles along with your aesthetic design and office standards. The 'fun' part you might be thinking about is really only 25-30% of the work at best. But it is pretty fun :) I would suggest it if you think it's really what you want to do. It's a really rewarding profession despite headaches and heartaches. Just know what you're getting into if you choose that route. | 0 | 292 | 3.5 | ||
bem8mc | architecture_train | 0.88 | [ask] Too late to become an architect? A question for all the pros here... I'm 32 now. Wanted to be an architect since I was a little kid, and was all about it until I got sidetracked into music in high school. Ended up going to school for music composition right out of high school (got the bachelor's). Went back to school at the community college for a CAD drafting certificate three years ago, and have been working in that field ever since (specifically for an HVAC contractor). I've never been able to shake the feeling that I made the wrong decision by not going into architecture straight out of high school. I've come close over the years to actually doing something about it. Is it realistically too late now? | el72cdx | el6wnri | 1,555,604,338 | 1,555,600,614 | 7 | 5 | 32 y.o. student here (last year of master). It's never too late. 🙂 | Not too late, graduated in my thirties just starting now | 1 | 3,724 | 1.4 | ||
bem8mc | architecture_train | 0.88 | [ask] Too late to become an architect? A question for all the pros here... I'm 32 now. Wanted to be an architect since I was a little kid, and was all about it until I got sidetracked into music in high school. Ended up going to school for music composition right out of high school (got the bachelor's). Went back to school at the community college for a CAD drafting certificate three years ago, and have been working in that field ever since (specifically for an HVAC contractor). I've never been able to shake the feeling that I made the wrong decision by not going into architecture straight out of high school. I've come close over the years to actually doing something about it. Is it realistically too late now? | el6ujsn | el72cdx | 1,555,599,239 | 1,555,604,338 | 4 | 7 | Great dedication even thinking about it. These may sound sad so sorry in advance. And of course it's possible. Since you did not specify where you live, I'm assuming you are capable of finding a school that'd accept you. If you found one, there is the money and time aspect, I'm not 32 years old but if you have the amount required for the school, living etc. saved up, there is only the time aspect. Where I studied, architecture means too much time spent in university's architecture studios, drawing or making models of said drawings. So if you plan to work for 4-5 years while studying, you better prepare mentally as well. After graduation is a bit of a problem too. You'd be 36-37 and starting a career from scratch. Usually, people at your age would be supervisors so you should get used to that even if a company accepts you. But it's never an impossible situation. Hope you achieve what you want. | 32 y.o. student here (last year of master). It's never too late. 🙂 | 0 | 5,099 | 1.75 | ||
bem8mc | architecture_train | 0.88 | [ask] Too late to become an architect? A question for all the pros here... I'm 32 now. Wanted to be an architect since I was a little kid, and was all about it until I got sidetracked into music in high school. Ended up going to school for music composition right out of high school (got the bachelor's). Went back to school at the community college for a CAD drafting certificate three years ago, and have been working in that field ever since (specifically for an HVAC contractor). I've never been able to shake the feeling that I made the wrong decision by not going into architecture straight out of high school. I've come close over the years to actually doing something about it. Is it realistically too late now? | el706vh | el72cdx | 1,555,602,914 | 1,555,604,338 | 3 | 7 | As someone said, a 3 years Masters is an option for you. As a grad student, you'll have other non-traditional aged students around as well. The hardest thing for you will be transitioning from the technical work you are currently doing towards "academic architecture," which in most programs doesn't have much to do with technical things and is more about theory, design process and how to communicate those things. Edit: Also, studying architecture is a commitment, and it will take up almost every waking hour you have, as well as a number of sleeping hours too. If you are someone that likes hanging out with friends at night or on the weekend, likes to go out and party, or has an important social life, A-School is going to be a hard shock. Your studio professors will not care about anything outside studio, and the workload for studio alone is huge. You'll have to even squeeze in time for your other classes. This was by far the toughest thing for the older students in my undergrad and grad programs to adjust to- they were used to a 8-5 workday with free weekends and it was difficult for them to realize that wouldn't cut it. | 32 y.o. student here (last year of master). It's never too late. 🙂 | 0 | 1,424 | 2.333333 | ||
bem8mc | architecture_train | 0.88 | [ask] Too late to become an architect? A question for all the pros here... I'm 32 now. Wanted to be an architect since I was a little kid, and was all about it until I got sidetracked into music in high school. Ended up going to school for music composition right out of high school (got the bachelor's). Went back to school at the community college for a CAD drafting certificate three years ago, and have been working in that field ever since (specifically for an HVAC contractor). I've never been able to shake the feeling that I made the wrong decision by not going into architecture straight out of high school. I've come close over the years to actually doing something about it. Is it realistically too late now? | el72cdx | el6xde4 | 1,555,604,338 | 1,555,601,063 | 7 | 2 | 32 y.o. student here (last year of master). It's never too late. 🙂 | If you give it some thought and decide that architecture is truly what you want to do and you are willing to put in the time and money to earn a master's degree, do NOT let age be a factor in your decision. Just do it. In this field many people's careers do not peak until much later in life compared to others. If you put in the work in your thirties you will have decades ahead of career progression. | 1 | 3,275 | 3.5 | ||
bem8mc | architecture_train | 0.88 | [ask] Too late to become an architect? A question for all the pros here... I'm 32 now. Wanted to be an architect since I was a little kid, and was all about it until I got sidetracked into music in high school. Ended up going to school for music composition right out of high school (got the bachelor's). Went back to school at the community college for a CAD drafting certificate three years ago, and have been working in that field ever since (specifically for an HVAC contractor). I've never been able to shake the feeling that I made the wrong decision by not going into architecture straight out of high school. I've come close over the years to actually doing something about it. Is it realistically too late now? | el72cdx | el70pa7 | 1,555,604,338 | 1,555,603,253 | 7 | 2 | 32 y.o. student here (last year of master). It's never too late. 🙂 | I graduated from a 5 year bachelor program at 32 years old. It's a HARD program so if you have a family or health issues you may not be able to keep up. My husband had my back, and I graduated with honors, so I would say age is not a limiting factor by itself. They do say that architects never retire, so it isn't to late to start. | 1 | 1,085 | 3.5 | ||
bem8mc | architecture_train | 0.88 | [ask] Too late to become an architect? A question for all the pros here... I'm 32 now. Wanted to be an architect since I was a little kid, and was all about it until I got sidetracked into music in high school. Ended up going to school for music composition right out of high school (got the bachelor's). Went back to school at the community college for a CAD drafting certificate three years ago, and have been working in that field ever since (specifically for an HVAC contractor). I've never been able to shake the feeling that I made the wrong decision by not going into architecture straight out of high school. I've come close over the years to actually doing something about it. Is it realistically too late now? | el6wnri | el6xs54 | 1,555,600,614 | 1,555,601,325 | 5 | 7 | Not too late, graduated in my thirties just starting now | its never to late to live your dreams :\] | 0 | 711 | 1.4 | ||
bem8mc | architecture_train | 0.88 | [ask] Too late to become an architect? A question for all the pros here... I'm 32 now. Wanted to be an architect since I was a little kid, and was all about it until I got sidetracked into music in high school. Ended up going to school for music composition right out of high school (got the bachelor's). Went back to school at the community college for a CAD drafting certificate three years ago, and have been working in that field ever since (specifically for an HVAC contractor). I've never been able to shake the feeling that I made the wrong decision by not going into architecture straight out of high school. I've come close over the years to actually doing something about it. Is it realistically too late now? | el6ujsn | el6xs54 | 1,555,599,239 | 1,555,601,325 | 4 | 7 | Great dedication even thinking about it. These may sound sad so sorry in advance. And of course it's possible. Since you did not specify where you live, I'm assuming you are capable of finding a school that'd accept you. If you found one, there is the money and time aspect, I'm not 32 years old but if you have the amount required for the school, living etc. saved up, there is only the time aspect. Where I studied, architecture means too much time spent in university's architecture studios, drawing or making models of said drawings. So if you plan to work for 4-5 years while studying, you better prepare mentally as well. After graduation is a bit of a problem too. You'd be 36-37 and starting a career from scratch. Usually, people at your age would be supervisors so you should get used to that even if a company accepts you. But it's never an impossible situation. Hope you achieve what you want. | its never to late to live your dreams :\] | 0 | 2,086 | 1.75 | ||
bem8mc | architecture_train | 0.88 | [ask] Too late to become an architect? A question for all the pros here... I'm 32 now. Wanted to be an architect since I was a little kid, and was all about it until I got sidetracked into music in high school. Ended up going to school for music composition right out of high school (got the bachelor's). Went back to school at the community college for a CAD drafting certificate three years ago, and have been working in that field ever since (specifically for an HVAC contractor). I've never been able to shake the feeling that I made the wrong decision by not going into architecture straight out of high school. I've come close over the years to actually doing something about it. Is it realistically too late now? | el6xde4 | el6xs54 | 1,555,601,063 | 1,555,601,325 | 2 | 7 | If you give it some thought and decide that architecture is truly what you want to do and you are willing to put in the time and money to earn a master's degree, do NOT let age be a factor in your decision. Just do it. In this field many people's careers do not peak until much later in life compared to others. If you put in the work in your thirties you will have decades ahead of career progression. | its never to late to live your dreams :\] | 0 | 262 | 3.5 | ||
bem8mc | architecture_train | 0.88 | [ask] Too late to become an architect? A question for all the pros here... I'm 32 now. Wanted to be an architect since I was a little kid, and was all about it until I got sidetracked into music in high school. Ended up going to school for music composition right out of high school (got the bachelor's). Went back to school at the community college for a CAD drafting certificate three years ago, and have been working in that field ever since (specifically for an HVAC contractor). I've never been able to shake the feeling that I made the wrong decision by not going into architecture straight out of high school. I've come close over the years to actually doing something about it. Is it realistically too late now? | el6wnri | el6ujsn | 1,555,600,614 | 1,555,599,239 | 5 | 4 | Not too late, graduated in my thirties just starting now | Great dedication even thinking about it. These may sound sad so sorry in advance. And of course it's possible. Since you did not specify where you live, I'm assuming you are capable of finding a school that'd accept you. If you found one, there is the money and time aspect, I'm not 32 years old but if you have the amount required for the school, living etc. saved up, there is only the time aspect. Where I studied, architecture means too much time spent in university's architecture studios, drawing or making models of said drawings. So if you plan to work for 4-5 years while studying, you better prepare mentally as well. After graduation is a bit of a problem too. You'd be 36-37 and starting a career from scratch. Usually, people at your age would be supervisors so you should get used to that even if a company accepts you. But it's never an impossible situation. Hope you achieve what you want. | 1 | 1,375 | 1.25 | ||
bem8mc | architecture_train | 0.88 | [ask] Too late to become an architect? A question for all the pros here... I'm 32 now. Wanted to be an architect since I was a little kid, and was all about it until I got sidetracked into music in high school. Ended up going to school for music composition right out of high school (got the bachelor's). Went back to school at the community college for a CAD drafting certificate three years ago, and have been working in that field ever since (specifically for an HVAC contractor). I've never been able to shake the feeling that I made the wrong decision by not going into architecture straight out of high school. I've come close over the years to actually doing something about it. Is it realistically too late now? | el6xde4 | el706vh | 1,555,601,063 | 1,555,602,914 | 2 | 3 | If you give it some thought and decide that architecture is truly what you want to do and you are willing to put in the time and money to earn a master's degree, do NOT let age be a factor in your decision. Just do it. In this field many people's careers do not peak until much later in life compared to others. If you put in the work in your thirties you will have decades ahead of career progression. | As someone said, a 3 years Masters is an option for you. As a grad student, you'll have other non-traditional aged students around as well. The hardest thing for you will be transitioning from the technical work you are currently doing towards "academic architecture," which in most programs doesn't have much to do with technical things and is more about theory, design process and how to communicate those things. Edit: Also, studying architecture is a commitment, and it will take up almost every waking hour you have, as well as a number of sleeping hours too. If you are someone that likes hanging out with friends at night or on the weekend, likes to go out and party, or has an important social life, A-School is going to be a hard shock. Your studio professors will not care about anything outside studio, and the workload for studio alone is huge. You'll have to even squeeze in time for your other classes. This was by far the toughest thing for the older students in my undergrad and grad programs to adjust to- they were used to a 8-5 workday with free weekends and it was difficult for them to realize that wouldn't cut it. | 0 | 1,851 | 1.5 | ||
bem8mc | architecture_train | 0.88 | [ask] Too late to become an architect? A question for all the pros here... I'm 32 now. Wanted to be an architect since I was a little kid, and was all about it until I got sidetracked into music in high school. Ended up going to school for music composition right out of high school (got the bachelor's). Went back to school at the community college for a CAD drafting certificate three years ago, and have been working in that field ever since (specifically for an HVAC contractor). I've never been able to shake the feeling that I made the wrong decision by not going into architecture straight out of high school. I've come close over the years to actually doing something about it. Is it realistically too late now? | el7806a | el7bb0c | 1,555,607,886 | 1,555,609,865 | 1 | 2 | Definitely not! I've recently started studying architecture myself, Its surprising how many of my classmates are older than what you'd expect a first year student to be! | I know, that many became geneal architects at both 30 and 40. so dare, | 0 | 1,979 | 2 | ||
bem8mc | architecture_train | 0.88 | [ask] Too late to become an architect? A question for all the pros here... I'm 32 now. Wanted to be an architect since I was a little kid, and was all about it until I got sidetracked into music in high school. Ended up going to school for music composition right out of high school (got the bachelor's). Went back to school at the community college for a CAD drafting certificate three years ago, and have been working in that field ever since (specifically for an HVAC contractor). I've never been able to shake the feeling that I made the wrong decision by not going into architecture straight out of high school. I've come close over the years to actually doing something about it. Is it realistically too late now? | el7c1pm | el7806a | 1,555,610,295 | 1,555,607,886 | 2 | 1 | Not even a little. | Definitely not! I've recently started studying architecture myself, Its surprising how many of my classmates are older than what you'd expect a first year student to be! | 1 | 2,409 | 2 | ||
bem8mc | architecture_train | 0.88 | [ask] Too late to become an architect? A question for all the pros here... I'm 32 now. Wanted to be an architect since I was a little kid, and was all about it until I got sidetracked into music in high school. Ended up going to school for music composition right out of high school (got the bachelor's). Went back to school at the community college for a CAD drafting certificate three years ago, and have been working in that field ever since (specifically for an HVAC contractor). I've never been able to shake the feeling that I made the wrong decision by not going into architecture straight out of high school. I've come close over the years to actually doing something about it. Is it realistically too late now? | el7ss7t | el7806a | 1,555,620,363 | 1,555,607,886 | 2 | 1 | Ahahaha, hahaha, ha ha, haaaa, aaaaaah that's a good one, "too late for architecture" haha... No, its not <3 Fortunately for you, architecture is a lifestyle - so you can be an architect whenever you want. That means getting a Master's in Architecture from a school you absolutely __Like__ and can __Conveniently Afford__. Downstairs, in my grad studio, I see 20-somethings mingle with 40-somethings and 30-somethings, because they all want to be architects from GT. The younger ones, well they might be more prone to the "stuck doing this" mentality, but the older ones? They have my respect. They are _dedicated_, and make me ashamed of being a mediocre student comparatively. As to being a professional architect, it will be a bit of a challenge. You can definitely get your license, but your work history will influence your future opportunities. And paying for school is a different challenge altogether - not an unreasonable one, but a challenge you shpuld seriously reflect, interrogate, and train for. Don't do what I did, settle, and follow your ambition in a sustainable manner | Definitely not! I've recently started studying architecture myself, Its surprising how many of my classmates are older than what you'd expect a first year student to be! | 1 | 12,477 | 2 | ||
bem8mc | architecture_train | 0.88 | [ask] Too late to become an architect? A question for all the pros here... I'm 32 now. Wanted to be an architect since I was a little kid, and was all about it until I got sidetracked into music in high school. Ended up going to school for music composition right out of high school (got the bachelor's). Went back to school at the community college for a CAD drafting certificate three years ago, and have been working in that field ever since (specifically for an HVAC contractor). I've never been able to shake the feeling that I made the wrong decision by not going into architecture straight out of high school. I've come close over the years to actually doing something about it. Is it realistically too late now? | el7k7l5 | el7ss7t | 1,555,615,128 | 1,555,620,363 | 1 | 2 | I have been stuck on this exact question, i asked some of my friends who have finished B. Engineering and its seems everybody seems to come up with the same conclusion, "Its not the best idea, there are other options but if you really want it then you have to work much harder than you think". And i guess i have found my answer aswell. Thank you OP for asking and all the guys that answered. P.S. I am not that old (Only 24), and really have no base in math which is the reason for my dilemma. | Ahahaha, hahaha, ha ha, haaaa, aaaaaah that's a good one, "too late for architecture" haha... No, its not <3 Fortunately for you, architecture is a lifestyle - so you can be an architect whenever you want. That means getting a Master's in Architecture from a school you absolutely __Like__ and can __Conveniently Afford__. Downstairs, in my grad studio, I see 20-somethings mingle with 40-somethings and 30-somethings, because they all want to be architects from GT. The younger ones, well they might be more prone to the "stuck doing this" mentality, but the older ones? They have my respect. They are _dedicated_, and make me ashamed of being a mediocre student comparatively. As to being a professional architect, it will be a bit of a challenge. You can definitely get your license, but your work history will influence your future opportunities. And paying for school is a different challenge altogether - not an unreasonable one, but a challenge you shpuld seriously reflect, interrogate, and train for. Don't do what I did, settle, and follow your ambition in a sustainable manner | 0 | 5,235 | 2 | ||
bem8mc | architecture_train | 0.88 | [ask] Too late to become an architect? A question for all the pros here... I'm 32 now. Wanted to be an architect since I was a little kid, and was all about it until I got sidetracked into music in high school. Ended up going to school for music composition right out of high school (got the bachelor's). Went back to school at the community college for a CAD drafting certificate three years ago, and have been working in that field ever since (specifically for an HVAC contractor). I've never been able to shake the feeling that I made the wrong decision by not going into architecture straight out of high school. I've come close over the years to actually doing something about it. Is it realistically too late now? | el7ss7t | el7oynm | 1,555,620,363 | 1,555,617,909 | 2 | 1 | Ahahaha, hahaha, ha ha, haaaa, aaaaaah that's a good one, "too late for architecture" haha... No, its not <3 Fortunately for you, architecture is a lifestyle - so you can be an architect whenever you want. That means getting a Master's in Architecture from a school you absolutely __Like__ and can __Conveniently Afford__. Downstairs, in my grad studio, I see 20-somethings mingle with 40-somethings and 30-somethings, because they all want to be architects from GT. The younger ones, well they might be more prone to the "stuck doing this" mentality, but the older ones? They have my respect. They are _dedicated_, and make me ashamed of being a mediocre student comparatively. As to being a professional architect, it will be a bit of a challenge. You can definitely get your license, but your work history will influence your future opportunities. And paying for school is a different challenge altogether - not an unreasonable one, but a challenge you shpuld seriously reflect, interrogate, and train for. Don't do what I did, settle, and follow your ambition in a sustainable manner | A friend of my mom started architecture at around the same age as you. That was a while ago (he is now "retired") and he had a successful career! He now manages the properties/buildings he owns. So I think you should take the time to do a lot of research, talk to professional architects and make sure that's what you want. If you still want it, go for it! You'll regret it if you don't. Myself, I started architecture in 2014 when I finished high school. I gave up, started studying Maths and will be graduating this year. However, I decided to go back to architecture. I am 23, that's not old but that's not 18 either. It's never too late to start doing something you love! And, as other said, there are plenty of other people who start architecture later. I'm sure you'll find people your age and older as well! | 1 | 2,454 | 2 | ||
f7q6ck | architecture_train | 1 | *Should I Become an Architect?* [ask] Hello guys! I've finished highschool and now I'm in my first semester of dentistry, but I'm studying abroad and it's really not a good experience for me. It's not like I hate dentistry, I did travel to study the not so accessible major in my country. I've always loved art and designs, and I actually was at the top of my class regarding painting and stuff like that. Well my question is to people who studied/are studying architecture. What are the pro's of studying architecture? Can your ability to draw overcome the fact that you're not very good at maths? Is it worth it financialy (let's say I'm gonna pay 10,000$ a year as tuition fees)? I'd appreciate your replys guys, and you can give me any extra info that you'd see intriguing even though I didn't ask for. In other words, please help me with your experience! | fid99r4 | fijhfr7 | 1,582,364,322 | 1,582,448,093 | 2 | 5 | Depending on where you are, if you have the skills, you don't even need to go to school to become am architect strictly speaking. I have 6 years of drafting experience from high school and community college and am in the process of breaking in at an entry level position right now. It's hard as shit and I don't reccommend it, but architecture is more about sense than any strict mathematics. That's what engineers are for. If you have the money to pay to get a degree, that's the easy way, but either way you're looking at a 10 year commitment to become a real architect. Until then, you can't really legally call yourself one, but here you can do architectural work by yourself as long as the structure clocks in below 4,000 sq. ft. Either way you go it's not easy, but if you find a passion for it it's extremely rewarding. A proper architect will be able to give you a far more complete and educated picture of the journey, but from where I'm at I don't regret anything yet, and I'm doing things the worst way possible (short of holding the ASA at gunpoint and becoming a fugitive architect for international terrorists). | Your artistic skill will have no indication of success in architecture. It's more than art, it's codes, Design, management etc etc. It's not worth it Financially as you will hit a cap in pay and it will not go much higher as no one is going to pay 200k for architect. | 0 | 83,771 | 2.5 | ||
f7q6ck | architecture_train | 1 | *Should I Become an Architect?* [ask] Hello guys! I've finished highschool and now I'm in my first semester of dentistry, but I'm studying abroad and it's really not a good experience for me. It's not like I hate dentistry, I did travel to study the not so accessible major in my country. I've always loved art and designs, and I actually was at the top of my class regarding painting and stuff like that. Well my question is to people who studied/are studying architecture. What are the pro's of studying architecture? Can your ability to draw overcome the fact that you're not very good at maths? Is it worth it financialy (let's say I'm gonna pay 10,000$ a year as tuition fees)? I'd appreciate your replys guys, and you can give me any extra info that you'd see intriguing even though I didn't ask for. In other words, please help me with your experience! | fijhfr7 | fie872a | 1,582,448,093 | 1,582,376,195 | 5 | 2 | Your artistic skill will have no indication of success in architecture. It's more than art, it's codes, Design, management etc etc. It's not worth it Financially as you will hit a cap in pay and it will not go much higher as no one is going to pay 200k for architect. | Depending on where you are and what you want. Maybe you can make a list of the pros and cons between the two careers to help you decide? For example, a dentist will make more money than an architect and maybe you are looking to make more money. The ability to draw and be good at math is not important. It's definitely a plus if you are. We are using computer softwares to help us design and draw now. The last time I drafted by hand was in my first 2 years of architecture school. The basic math skill is sufficient because you will have engineers who will take care of the rest. I enjoyed my experience in architecture school. I don't miss the sleepless nights and presentation deadlines. When I'm not in my other architecture classes, I was constantly in studio working on my projects. I didn't really have any free time for friends who were non-architecture majors. Some of them just didn't understand why I was in studio all the time. Architecture school is pretty stressful and we had people who dropped out and realized this was not what they want. I also know people who graduated but did their masters in something else or went on doing other things. It's up to you and what you want. 🙂 | 1 | 71,898 | 2.5 | ||
f7q6ck | architecture_train | 1 | *Should I Become an Architect?* [ask] Hello guys! I've finished highschool and now I'm in my first semester of dentistry, but I'm studying abroad and it's really not a good experience for me. It's not like I hate dentistry, I did travel to study the not so accessible major in my country. I've always loved art and designs, and I actually was at the top of my class regarding painting and stuff like that. Well my question is to people who studied/are studying architecture. What are the pro's of studying architecture? Can your ability to draw overcome the fact that you're not very good at maths? Is it worth it financialy (let's say I'm gonna pay 10,000$ a year as tuition fees)? I'd appreciate your replys guys, and you can give me any extra info that you'd see intriguing even though I didn't ask for. In other words, please help me with your experience! | fijhfr7 | fidamcc | 1,582,448,093 | 1,582,364,736 | 5 | 1 | Your artistic skill will have no indication of success in architecture. It's more than art, it's codes, Design, management etc etc. It's not worth it Financially as you will hit a cap in pay and it will not go much higher as no one is going to pay 200k for architect. | You should stick to dentistry, if you were actually interested in Architecture you would have a more advanced view of the profession | 1 | 83,357 | 5 | ||
f7q6ck | architecture_train | 1 | *Should I Become an Architect?* [ask] Hello guys! I've finished highschool and now I'm in my first semester of dentistry, but I'm studying abroad and it's really not a good experience for me. It's not like I hate dentistry, I did travel to study the not so accessible major in my country. I've always loved art and designs, and I actually was at the top of my class regarding painting and stuff like that. Well my question is to people who studied/are studying architecture. What are the pro's of studying architecture? Can your ability to draw overcome the fact that you're not very good at maths? Is it worth it financialy (let's say I'm gonna pay 10,000$ a year as tuition fees)? I'd appreciate your replys guys, and you can give me any extra info that you'd see intriguing even though I didn't ask for. In other words, please help me with your experience! | fidamcc | fie872a | 1,582,364,736 | 1,582,376,195 | 1 | 2 | You should stick to dentistry, if you were actually interested in Architecture you would have a more advanced view of the profession | Depending on where you are and what you want. Maybe you can make a list of the pros and cons between the two careers to help you decide? For example, a dentist will make more money than an architect and maybe you are looking to make more money. The ability to draw and be good at math is not important. It's definitely a plus if you are. We are using computer softwares to help us design and draw now. The last time I drafted by hand was in my first 2 years of architecture school. The basic math skill is sufficient because you will have engineers who will take care of the rest. I enjoyed my experience in architecture school. I don't miss the sleepless nights and presentation deadlines. When I'm not in my other architecture classes, I was constantly in studio working on my projects. I didn't really have any free time for friends who were non-architecture majors. Some of them just didn't understand why I was in studio all the time. Architecture school is pretty stressful and we had people who dropped out and realized this was not what they want. I also know people who graduated but did their masters in something else or went on doing other things. It's up to you and what you want. 🙂 | 0 | 11,459 | 2 | ||
etamkb | architecture_train | 1 | [ask] is there any way to become an architect without majoring in architecture? Realizing my passion for architecture in my final year of university (currently majoring in Geography)... | fff2ly6 | fffgylm | 1,579,874,013 | 1,579,883,737 | 2 | 6 | Depends on the jurisdiction. In most you’d need to get an M.Arch. | Being an architect can means a lot of things and you can work in that field in so many different ways... but if you aim for becoming a designer architect, don't let your age or "time wasted in another field" holds you back ! I've met a lot of people in my life who graduated after 30 because they were doing other random thing before... and who now are really good architects. Now to truly answer your question, so can you become an architect without a degree, well it's a yes and no answer. For instance in my country you don't need a proper degree for interior designer (from a legal point of view) but as soon as you want to touch a load bearing wall, you'll need an architect's signature, the loophole is that it doesn't need to be your signature. I'm vulgarizing here, it's more complex in reality.. but my point is that architecture is not necessary designing a skyscraper, you can work on small project, set design, furniture design, interior design, landscape design, town planning design... all those fields are related. I would still recommend to aim for a Master degree in architecture nonetheless, specially if you are in one of those free education country (mine was 300€/year). Otherwise meet some architect IRL and ask them what you are asking us, this is complex question with sooo many answer ;) And good luck ! | 0 | 9,724 | 3 | ||
vtdl8z | architecture_train | 0.93 | Blue collar Ironworker looking to become an architect? Is it possible? Ask/r/Architecture Blue collar union ironworker for over 16 years in the field, I’m wondering how difficult would it be to transition into being an architect? Are there internships or Apprenticeships? Is it worth the career change? Dealing with a back injury and trying to find alternatives besides physical demanding work. Sorry I’m advance for my improper way of ask questions not too savvy on Reddit | if6wbu9 | if6suoy | 1,657,190,645 | 1,657,187,986 | 52 | 8 | It’s tough but not impossible. The main problem is the field is flooded with students and new graduates from architecture degree programs. You have to ask yourself - in what situation might they choose someone like yourself over a younger, more architecturally trained/skilled person. My suggestion is to look into design-build offices. They typically produce their own designs, drawings and build them. From what I’ve seen, they veer towards craftspeople more than a traditional architecture office. So spend time getting into BIM/CAD (Revit and Rhino, if you can), and study as much about how buildings are drawn and built. If school is a possible route, look into that with design-build in mind | Where are you from OP? There was a guy the year below me at uni who was a joiner and he really excelled at architecture. He ended up fully qualifying last year while I am looking to sit my part 3 exam this year (based in the UK). It takes quite a long time to get fully qualified but technician route might be worth a look, the on site skills from being a foreman will be really useful for job running in the future. When I was doing my year out there was a technician who came from a construction background so in my limited experience this route is not so uncommon. | 1 | 2,659 | 6.5 | ||
vtdl8z | architecture_train | 0.93 | Blue collar Ironworker looking to become an architect? Is it possible? Ask/r/Architecture Blue collar union ironworker for over 16 years in the field, I’m wondering how difficult would it be to transition into being an architect? Are there internships or Apprenticeships? Is it worth the career change? Dealing with a back injury and trying to find alternatives besides physical demanding work. Sorry I’m advance for my improper way of ask questions not too savvy on Reddit | if6vctz | if6wbu9 | 1,657,189,932 | 1,657,190,645 | 2 | 52 | It would be pretty hard to get a job in architecture if you don’t have any sort of CAD/BIM experience or an accredited architecture degree, tbh. If you can get your foot in the door, you can be eligible to sit for the architecture exams after 9 years of working for a licensed architect. Check out NCARB’s website for more info. https://www.ncarb.org/ | It’s tough but not impossible. The main problem is the field is flooded with students and new graduates from architecture degree programs. You have to ask yourself - in what situation might they choose someone like yourself over a younger, more architecturally trained/skilled person. My suggestion is to look into design-build offices. They typically produce their own designs, drawings and build them. From what I’ve seen, they veer towards craftspeople more than a traditional architecture office. So spend time getting into BIM/CAD (Revit and Rhino, if you can), and study as much about how buildings are drawn and built. If school is a possible route, look into that with design-build in mind | 0 | 713 | 26 | ||
vtdl8z | architecture_train | 0.93 | Blue collar Ironworker looking to become an architect? Is it possible? Ask/r/Architecture Blue collar union ironworker for over 16 years in the field, I’m wondering how difficult would it be to transition into being an architect? Are there internships or Apprenticeships? Is it worth the career change? Dealing with a back injury and trying to find alternatives besides physical demanding work. Sorry I’m advance for my improper way of ask questions not too savvy on Reddit | if74yzf | if6zviu | 1,657,196,134 | 1,657,193,070 | 12 | 9 | Might want to consider structural engineering as well. Your experience as an iron worker would be more useful, architects don't do much structural steel detailing. Of course structural engineering requires being good at/not hating math more so than an architect. Just food for thought. | If you don’t have an undergrad, then it’s a long slog to a degree and then come out on the other side making half what you left at. Intern architects make from $35k to $65k. 10 years in, you are doing good marking $100k but you have a ton of student debt. Instead I’d look at becoming an AWS inspector, a detailer, superintendent for a GC or a safety guy. Plenty of ways to make money in building but architects are in it because they love design. However. If you do love design, then go for it. | 1 | 3,064 | 1.333333 | ||
vtdl8z | architecture_train | 0.93 | Blue collar Ironworker looking to become an architect? Is it possible? Ask/r/Architecture Blue collar union ironworker for over 16 years in the field, I’m wondering how difficult would it be to transition into being an architect? Are there internships or Apprenticeships? Is it worth the career change? Dealing with a back injury and trying to find alternatives besides physical demanding work. Sorry I’m advance for my improper way of ask questions not too savvy on Reddit | if74yzf | if6suoy | 1,657,196,134 | 1,657,187,986 | 12 | 8 | Might want to consider structural engineering as well. Your experience as an iron worker would be more useful, architects don't do much structural steel detailing. Of course structural engineering requires being good at/not hating math more so than an architect. Just food for thought. | Where are you from OP? There was a guy the year below me at uni who was a joiner and he really excelled at architecture. He ended up fully qualifying last year while I am looking to sit my part 3 exam this year (based in the UK). It takes quite a long time to get fully qualified but technician route might be worth a look, the on site skills from being a foreman will be really useful for job running in the future. When I was doing my year out there was a technician who came from a construction background so in my limited experience this route is not so uncommon. | 1 | 8,148 | 1.5 | ||
vtdl8z | architecture_train | 0.93 | Blue collar Ironworker looking to become an architect? Is it possible? Ask/r/Architecture Blue collar union ironworker for over 16 years in the field, I’m wondering how difficult would it be to transition into being an architect? Are there internships or Apprenticeships? Is it worth the career change? Dealing with a back injury and trying to find alternatives besides physical demanding work. Sorry I’m advance for my improper way of ask questions not too savvy on Reddit | if6vctz | if74yzf | 1,657,189,932 | 1,657,196,134 | 2 | 12 | It would be pretty hard to get a job in architecture if you don’t have any sort of CAD/BIM experience or an accredited architecture degree, tbh. If you can get your foot in the door, you can be eligible to sit for the architecture exams after 9 years of working for a licensed architect. Check out NCARB’s website for more info. https://www.ncarb.org/ | Might want to consider structural engineering as well. Your experience as an iron worker would be more useful, architects don't do much structural steel detailing. Of course structural engineering requires being good at/not hating math more so than an architect. Just food for thought. | 0 | 6,202 | 6 | ||
vtdl8z | architecture_train | 0.93 | Blue collar Ironworker looking to become an architect? Is it possible? Ask/r/Architecture Blue collar union ironworker for over 16 years in the field, I’m wondering how difficult would it be to transition into being an architect? Are there internships or Apprenticeships? Is it worth the career change? Dealing with a back injury and trying to find alternatives besides physical demanding work. Sorry I’m advance for my improper way of ask questions not too savvy on Reddit | if6suoy | if6zviu | 1,657,187,986 | 1,657,193,070 | 8 | 9 | Where are you from OP? There was a guy the year below me at uni who was a joiner and he really excelled at architecture. He ended up fully qualifying last year while I am looking to sit my part 3 exam this year (based in the UK). It takes quite a long time to get fully qualified but technician route might be worth a look, the on site skills from being a foreman will be really useful for job running in the future. When I was doing my year out there was a technician who came from a construction background so in my limited experience this route is not so uncommon. | If you don’t have an undergrad, then it’s a long slog to a degree and then come out on the other side making half what you left at. Intern architects make from $35k to $65k. 10 years in, you are doing good marking $100k but you have a ton of student debt. Instead I’d look at becoming an AWS inspector, a detailer, superintendent for a GC or a safety guy. Plenty of ways to make money in building but architects are in it because they love design. However. If you do love design, then go for it. | 0 | 5,084 | 1.125 | ||
vtdl8z | architecture_train | 0.93 | Blue collar Ironworker looking to become an architect? Is it possible? Ask/r/Architecture Blue collar union ironworker for over 16 years in the field, I’m wondering how difficult would it be to transition into being an architect? Are there internships or Apprenticeships? Is it worth the career change? Dealing with a back injury and trying to find alternatives besides physical demanding work. Sorry I’m advance for my improper way of ask questions not too savvy on Reddit | if6zviu | if6vctz | 1,657,193,070 | 1,657,189,932 | 9 | 2 | If you don’t have an undergrad, then it’s a long slog to a degree and then come out on the other side making half what you left at. Intern architects make from $35k to $65k. 10 years in, you are doing good marking $100k but you have a ton of student debt. Instead I’d look at becoming an AWS inspector, a detailer, superintendent for a GC or a safety guy. Plenty of ways to make money in building but architects are in it because they love design. However. If you do love design, then go for it. | It would be pretty hard to get a job in architecture if you don’t have any sort of CAD/BIM experience or an accredited architecture degree, tbh. If you can get your foot in the door, you can be eligible to sit for the architecture exams after 9 years of working for a licensed architect. Check out NCARB’s website for more info. https://www.ncarb.org/ | 1 | 3,138 | 4.5 | ||
vtdl8z | architecture_train | 0.93 | Blue collar Ironworker looking to become an architect? Is it possible? Ask/r/Architecture Blue collar union ironworker for over 16 years in the field, I’m wondering how difficult would it be to transition into being an architect? Are there internships or Apprenticeships? Is it worth the career change? Dealing with a back injury and trying to find alternatives besides physical demanding work. Sorry I’m advance for my improper way of ask questions not too savvy on Reddit | if6vctz | if7pf2z | 1,657,189,932 | 1,657,205,631 | 2 | 3 | It would be pretty hard to get a job in architecture if you don’t have any sort of CAD/BIM experience or an accredited architecture degree, tbh. If you can get your foot in the door, you can be eligible to sit for the architecture exams after 9 years of working for a licensed architect. Check out NCARB’s website for more info. https://www.ncarb.org/ | Check out the work of Tom Kundig and 12th ave Iron. I believe he started with metal sculpture and started architecture in his 30s. | 0 | 15,699 | 1.5 | ||
vtdl8z | architecture_train | 0.93 | Blue collar Ironworker looking to become an architect? Is it possible? Ask/r/Architecture Blue collar union ironworker for over 16 years in the field, I’m wondering how difficult would it be to transition into being an architect? Are there internships or Apprenticeships? Is it worth the career change? Dealing with a back injury and trying to find alternatives besides physical demanding work. Sorry I’m advance for my improper way of ask questions not too savvy on Reddit | if78gf7 | if7pf2z | 1,657,197,990 | 1,657,205,631 | 2 | 3 | Similar background here in Australia. Bookmaker for 8 years but due to acquiring disability had to re-educate. Figured engineering drafting would suit well so started that process and fell in love with design. Now have 6 months left in my undergrad degree in architecture. Went the long way though, my 3 year degree will have taken me 4.5 years by the time I’m finished. Currently drafting for a shopfitter and studying part time. Not the design work I want to do, but having trade experience has been a godsend in picking it up. Your experience as foreman and super will be invaluable in an office environment. It’s one thing I lack which I would like to to get some experience in | Check out the work of Tom Kundig and 12th ave Iron. I believe he started with metal sculpture and started architecture in his 30s. | 0 | 7,641 | 1.5 | ||
vtdl8z | architecture_train | 0.93 | Blue collar Ironworker looking to become an architect? Is it possible? Ask/r/Architecture Blue collar union ironworker for over 16 years in the field, I’m wondering how difficult would it be to transition into being an architect? Are there internships or Apprenticeships? Is it worth the career change? Dealing with a back injury and trying to find alternatives besides physical demanding work. Sorry I’m advance for my improper way of ask questions not too savvy on Reddit | if7pf2z | if7oden | 1,657,205,631 | 1,657,205,209 | 3 | 2 | Check out the work of Tom Kundig and 12th ave Iron. I believe he started with metal sculpture and started architecture in his 30s. | I’m going to suggest you look at some smaller boutique firms and high end residential firms. Places like Olson Kundig and Graham Baba that do a lot of their own details would find your background interesting. I’m an interior designer, but I work in a very large architect firm doing a mix of architect and interiors. I suggest looking at a local AA degree in interior design (ideally a CIDA accredited program). You’ll learn the computer skills and some basics required to get at a more affordable price. | 1 | 422 | 1.5 | ||
vtdl8z | architecture_train | 0.93 | Blue collar Ironworker looking to become an architect? Is it possible? Ask/r/Architecture Blue collar union ironworker for over 16 years in the field, I’m wondering how difficult would it be to transition into being an architect? Are there internships or Apprenticeships? Is it worth the career change? Dealing with a back injury and trying to find alternatives besides physical demanding work. Sorry I’m advance for my improper way of ask questions not too savvy on Reddit | if7qnk7 | if6vctz | 1,657,206,133 | 1,657,189,932 | 3 | 2 | I went to arch school at 29 coming from designing trusses. Its a bitch monetarily speaking. | It would be pretty hard to get a job in architecture if you don’t have any sort of CAD/BIM experience or an accredited architecture degree, tbh. If you can get your foot in the door, you can be eligible to sit for the architecture exams after 9 years of working for a licensed architect. Check out NCARB’s website for more info. https://www.ncarb.org/ | 1 | 16,201 | 1.5 | ||
vtdl8z | architecture_train | 0.93 | Blue collar Ironworker looking to become an architect? Is it possible? Ask/r/Architecture Blue collar union ironworker for over 16 years in the field, I’m wondering how difficult would it be to transition into being an architect? Are there internships or Apprenticeships? Is it worth the career change? Dealing with a back injury and trying to find alternatives besides physical demanding work. Sorry I’m advance for my improper way of ask questions not too savvy on Reddit | if7qnk7 | if78gf7 | 1,657,206,133 | 1,657,197,990 | 3 | 2 | I went to arch school at 29 coming from designing trusses. Its a bitch monetarily speaking. | Similar background here in Australia. Bookmaker for 8 years but due to acquiring disability had to re-educate. Figured engineering drafting would suit well so started that process and fell in love with design. Now have 6 months left in my undergrad degree in architecture. Went the long way though, my 3 year degree will have taken me 4.5 years by the time I’m finished. Currently drafting for a shopfitter and studying part time. Not the design work I want to do, but having trade experience has been a godsend in picking it up. Your experience as foreman and super will be invaluable in an office environment. It’s one thing I lack which I would like to to get some experience in | 1 | 8,143 | 1.5 | ||
vtdl8z | architecture_train | 0.93 | Blue collar Ironworker looking to become an architect? Is it possible? Ask/r/Architecture Blue collar union ironworker for over 16 years in the field, I’m wondering how difficult would it be to transition into being an architect? Are there internships or Apprenticeships? Is it worth the career change? Dealing with a back injury and trying to find alternatives besides physical demanding work. Sorry I’m advance for my improper way of ask questions not too savvy on Reddit | if7oden | if7qnk7 | 1,657,205,209 | 1,657,206,133 | 2 | 3 | I’m going to suggest you look at some smaller boutique firms and high end residential firms. Places like Olson Kundig and Graham Baba that do a lot of their own details would find your background interesting. I’m an interior designer, but I work in a very large architect firm doing a mix of architect and interiors. I suggest looking at a local AA degree in interior design (ideally a CIDA accredited program). You’ll learn the computer skills and some basics required to get at a more affordable price. | I went to arch school at 29 coming from designing trusses. Its a bitch monetarily speaking. | 0 | 924 | 1.5 | ||
vtdl8z | architecture_train | 0.93 | Blue collar Ironworker looking to become an architect? Is it possible? Ask/r/Architecture Blue collar union ironworker for over 16 years in the field, I’m wondering how difficult would it be to transition into being an architect? Are there internships or Apprenticeships? Is it worth the career change? Dealing with a back injury and trying to find alternatives besides physical demanding work. Sorry I’m advance for my improper way of ask questions not too savvy on Reddit | if8ju5b | if6vctz | 1,657,217,496 | 1,657,189,932 | 3 | 2 | As an architect I humbly request, DONT DO IT! You will make much more as an iron worker lol | It would be pretty hard to get a job in architecture if you don’t have any sort of CAD/BIM experience or an accredited architecture degree, tbh. If you can get your foot in the door, you can be eligible to sit for the architecture exams after 9 years of working for a licensed architect. Check out NCARB’s website for more info. https://www.ncarb.org/ | 1 | 27,564 | 1.5 | ||
vtdl8z | architecture_train | 0.93 | Blue collar Ironworker looking to become an architect? Is it possible? Ask/r/Architecture Blue collar union ironworker for over 16 years in the field, I’m wondering how difficult would it be to transition into being an architect? Are there internships or Apprenticeships? Is it worth the career change? Dealing with a back injury and trying to find alternatives besides physical demanding work. Sorry I’m advance for my improper way of ask questions not too savvy on Reddit | if8ju5b | if78gf7 | 1,657,217,496 | 1,657,197,990 | 3 | 2 | As an architect I humbly request, DONT DO IT! You will make much more as an iron worker lol | Similar background here in Australia. Bookmaker for 8 years but due to acquiring disability had to re-educate. Figured engineering drafting would suit well so started that process and fell in love with design. Now have 6 months left in my undergrad degree in architecture. Went the long way though, my 3 year degree will have taken me 4.5 years by the time I’m finished. Currently drafting for a shopfitter and studying part time. Not the design work I want to do, but having trade experience has been a godsend in picking it up. Your experience as foreman and super will be invaluable in an office environment. It’s one thing I lack which I would like to to get some experience in | 1 | 19,506 | 1.5 | ||
vtdl8z | architecture_train | 0.93 | Blue collar Ironworker looking to become an architect? Is it possible? Ask/r/Architecture Blue collar union ironworker for over 16 years in the field, I’m wondering how difficult would it be to transition into being an architect? Are there internships or Apprenticeships? Is it worth the career change? Dealing with a back injury and trying to find alternatives besides physical demanding work. Sorry I’m advance for my improper way of ask questions not too savvy on Reddit | if7oden | if8ju5b | 1,657,205,209 | 1,657,217,496 | 2 | 3 | I’m going to suggest you look at some smaller boutique firms and high end residential firms. Places like Olson Kundig and Graham Baba that do a lot of their own details would find your background interesting. I’m an interior designer, but I work in a very large architect firm doing a mix of architect and interiors. I suggest looking at a local AA degree in interior design (ideally a CIDA accredited program). You’ll learn the computer skills and some basics required to get at a more affordable price. | As an architect I humbly request, DONT DO IT! You will make much more as an iron worker lol | 0 | 12,287 | 1.5 | ||
vtdl8z | architecture_train | 0.93 | Blue collar Ironworker looking to become an architect? Is it possible? Ask/r/Architecture Blue collar union ironworker for over 16 years in the field, I’m wondering how difficult would it be to transition into being an architect? Are there internships or Apprenticeships? Is it worth the career change? Dealing with a back injury and trying to find alternatives besides physical demanding work. Sorry I’m advance for my improper way of ask questions not too savvy on Reddit | if7vhp2 | if8ju5b | 1,657,208,073 | 1,657,217,496 | 2 | 3 | This will depend on where you live and want to work. Some states (not many) still have paths to an architecture license that are in essence apprenticeships. However, getting a license that way won't be recognized in other states. It also takes a long time. However, if you aren't really looking to obtain a license, then you have more options. Learning to draft and model (AutoCAD, Revit, Sketch-up, etc...) will help you get a foot in the door. Your experience as an ironworker, depending on the kind of work you did, might translate in indirect ways. If you have the ability, pick up a basic design or architectural history course at a community college- architects think differently about buildings than tradespeople and getting some exposure to that will help your transition into an architecture office. You might also find a place in design-build construction firms or as a PM in a construction firm. | As an architect I humbly request, DONT DO IT! You will make much more as an iron worker lol | 0 | 9,423 | 1.5 | ||
vtdl8z | architecture_train | 0.93 | Blue collar Ironworker looking to become an architect? Is it possible? Ask/r/Architecture Blue collar union ironworker for over 16 years in the field, I’m wondering how difficult would it be to transition into being an architect? Are there internships or Apprenticeships? Is it worth the career change? Dealing with a back injury and trying to find alternatives besides physical demanding work. Sorry I’m advance for my improper way of ask questions not too savvy on Reddit | if8ju5b | if8bs01 | 1,657,217,496 | 1,657,214,409 | 3 | 2 | As an architect I humbly request, DONT DO IT! You will make much more as an iron worker lol | Depending on your educational background as well as your jurisdiction. Different countries have different requirements and paths to practicing architecture. I would contact your local architectural association to ask them about the specifics. In North America, there are sometimes routes that one can take if missing a formal architectural education, but they are typically longer paths to licensure (10+ years of work + exams). The good news is that if you can find a job at a firm, you'll be paid through this period for the work that you do like any other employee. If you really want to become an architect, I'd say go for it. Architecture draws people from a wide variety of backgrounds from academic to professional to the trades. If you want to work in something construction related but don't necessarily have to do architecture, have you looked at site supervisory roles or maybe project coordinator roles? You could also look at inspection jobs for various towns and cities, if you're qualified for them. These should all leverage your knowledge that you've gained so far but also keep you away from the heavy lifting stuff that likely won't be great for your back. Also, have you spoken to your union rep? They might have some ideas for you as well, since you're likely not the first person who wants/needs to transition to something less physically demanding. | 1 | 3,087 | 1.5 | ||
vtdl8z | architecture_train | 0.93 | Blue collar Ironworker looking to become an architect? Is it possible? Ask/r/Architecture Blue collar union ironworker for over 16 years in the field, I’m wondering how difficult would it be to transition into being an architect? Are there internships or Apprenticeships? Is it worth the career change? Dealing with a back injury and trying to find alternatives besides physical demanding work. Sorry I’m advance for my improper way of ask questions not too savvy on Reddit | if8ju5b | if8ewm2 | 1,657,217,496 | 1,657,215,603 | 3 | 2 | As an architect I humbly request, DONT DO IT! You will make much more as an iron worker lol | I know someone who is a zoning genius, can plan decent apartments and recently started his own architecture firm. He studied religious studies all his life and picked up a job drafting for a plumbing subcontractor. This was apparently his way of getting further into the field, because he then studied zoning laws in NYC, managed to network with a few consultants and became an independent zoning consultant for his local community. Then he managed to get into an online arch masters program with only religious studies, and a portfolio of projects he’s already done as a consultant. Mind you he never called himself an architect because no license yet at that point, all work was submitted through a civil engineer, but he dealt with any objections from the city. He’s about to finish his degree now and be eligible for licensure after passing ARE 5. The point of my rambling sentences, is that this dude took a completely unorthodox approach to becoming an architect, though for now he has a licensed partner until he passes all the exams. It takes a certain type of determination, and a passion for this relatively thankless profession. Your reward is completing something that people will occupy and use every day. | 1 | 1,893 | 1.5 | ||
vtdl8z | architecture_train | 0.93 | Blue collar Ironworker looking to become an architect? Is it possible? Ask/r/Architecture Blue collar union ironworker for over 16 years in the field, I’m wondering how difficult would it be to transition into being an architect? Are there internships or Apprenticeships? Is it worth the career change? Dealing with a back injury and trying to find alternatives besides physical demanding work. Sorry I’m advance for my improper way of ask questions not too savvy on Reddit | if8fugx | if8ju5b | 1,657,215,963 | 1,657,217,496 | 2 | 3 | Have you thought about project management? You make twice as much as an architect and your experience is much more relevant | As an architect I humbly request, DONT DO IT! You will make much more as an iron worker lol | 0 | 1,533 | 1.5 | ||
vtdl8z | architecture_train | 0.93 | Blue collar Ironworker looking to become an architect? Is it possible? Ask/r/Architecture Blue collar union ironworker for over 16 years in the field, I’m wondering how difficult would it be to transition into being an architect? Are there internships or Apprenticeships? Is it worth the career change? Dealing with a back injury and trying to find alternatives besides physical demanding work. Sorry I’m advance for my improper way of ask questions not too savvy on Reddit | if6vctz | if8wuin | 1,657,189,932 | 1,657,222,501 | 2 | 3 | It would be pretty hard to get a job in architecture if you don’t have any sort of CAD/BIM experience or an accredited architecture degree, tbh. If you can get your foot in the door, you can be eligible to sit for the architecture exams after 9 years of working for a licensed architect. Check out NCARB’s website for more info. https://www.ncarb.org/ | Maybe consider an architectural technologist career instead of architect. Only a two year program vs. degree program. You could enter the work force and if you still have the desire to become a full on architect, you could work towards it while you're working within the industry and still gaining experience. | 0 | 32,569 | 1.5 | ||
vtdl8z | architecture_train | 0.93 | Blue collar Ironworker looking to become an architect? Is it possible? Ask/r/Architecture Blue collar union ironworker for over 16 years in the field, I’m wondering how difficult would it be to transition into being an architect? Are there internships or Apprenticeships? Is it worth the career change? Dealing with a back injury and trying to find alternatives besides physical demanding work. Sorry I’m advance for my improper way of ask questions not too savvy on Reddit | if8wuin | if78gf7 | 1,657,222,501 | 1,657,197,990 | 3 | 2 | Maybe consider an architectural technologist career instead of architect. Only a two year program vs. degree program. You could enter the work force and if you still have the desire to become a full on architect, you could work towards it while you're working within the industry and still gaining experience. | Similar background here in Australia. Bookmaker for 8 years but due to acquiring disability had to re-educate. Figured engineering drafting would suit well so started that process and fell in love with design. Now have 6 months left in my undergrad degree in architecture. Went the long way though, my 3 year degree will have taken me 4.5 years by the time I’m finished. Currently drafting for a shopfitter and studying part time. Not the design work I want to do, but having trade experience has been a godsend in picking it up. Your experience as foreman and super will be invaluable in an office environment. It’s one thing I lack which I would like to to get some experience in | 1 | 24,511 | 1.5 | ||
vtdl8z | architecture_train | 0.93 | Blue collar Ironworker looking to become an architect? Is it possible? Ask/r/Architecture Blue collar union ironworker for over 16 years in the field, I’m wondering how difficult would it be to transition into being an architect? Are there internships or Apprenticeships? Is it worth the career change? Dealing with a back injury and trying to find alternatives besides physical demanding work. Sorry I’m advance for my improper way of ask questions not too savvy on Reddit | if7oden | if8wuin | 1,657,205,209 | 1,657,222,501 | 2 | 3 | I’m going to suggest you look at some smaller boutique firms and high end residential firms. Places like Olson Kundig and Graham Baba that do a lot of their own details would find your background interesting. I’m an interior designer, but I work in a very large architect firm doing a mix of architect and interiors. I suggest looking at a local AA degree in interior design (ideally a CIDA accredited program). You’ll learn the computer skills and some basics required to get at a more affordable price. | Maybe consider an architectural technologist career instead of architect. Only a two year program vs. degree program. You could enter the work force and if you still have the desire to become a full on architect, you could work towards it while you're working within the industry and still gaining experience. | 0 | 17,292 | 1.5 | ||
vtdl8z | architecture_train | 0.93 | Blue collar Ironworker looking to become an architect? Is it possible? Ask/r/Architecture Blue collar union ironworker for over 16 years in the field, I’m wondering how difficult would it be to transition into being an architect? Are there internships or Apprenticeships? Is it worth the career change? Dealing with a back injury and trying to find alternatives besides physical demanding work. Sorry I’m advance for my improper way of ask questions not too savvy on Reddit | if8wuin | if7vhp2 | 1,657,222,501 | 1,657,208,073 | 3 | 2 | Maybe consider an architectural technologist career instead of architect. Only a two year program vs. degree program. You could enter the work force and if you still have the desire to become a full on architect, you could work towards it while you're working within the industry and still gaining experience. | This will depend on where you live and want to work. Some states (not many) still have paths to an architecture license that are in essence apprenticeships. However, getting a license that way won't be recognized in other states. It also takes a long time. However, if you aren't really looking to obtain a license, then you have more options. Learning to draft and model (AutoCAD, Revit, Sketch-up, etc...) will help you get a foot in the door. Your experience as an ironworker, depending on the kind of work you did, might translate in indirect ways. If you have the ability, pick up a basic design or architectural history course at a community college- architects think differently about buildings than tradespeople and getting some exposure to that will help your transition into an architecture office. You might also find a place in design-build construction firms or as a PM in a construction firm. | 1 | 14,428 | 1.5 | ||
vtdl8z | architecture_train | 0.93 | Blue collar Ironworker looking to become an architect? Is it possible? Ask/r/Architecture Blue collar union ironworker for over 16 years in the field, I’m wondering how difficult would it be to transition into being an architect? Are there internships or Apprenticeships? Is it worth the career change? Dealing with a back injury and trying to find alternatives besides physical demanding work. Sorry I’m advance for my improper way of ask questions not too savvy on Reddit | if8wuin | if8bs01 | 1,657,222,501 | 1,657,214,409 | 3 | 2 | Maybe consider an architectural technologist career instead of architect. Only a two year program vs. degree program. You could enter the work force and if you still have the desire to become a full on architect, you could work towards it while you're working within the industry and still gaining experience. | Depending on your educational background as well as your jurisdiction. Different countries have different requirements and paths to practicing architecture. I would contact your local architectural association to ask them about the specifics. In North America, there are sometimes routes that one can take if missing a formal architectural education, but they are typically longer paths to licensure (10+ years of work + exams). The good news is that if you can find a job at a firm, you'll be paid through this period for the work that you do like any other employee. If you really want to become an architect, I'd say go for it. Architecture draws people from a wide variety of backgrounds from academic to professional to the trades. If you want to work in something construction related but don't necessarily have to do architecture, have you looked at site supervisory roles or maybe project coordinator roles? You could also look at inspection jobs for various towns and cities, if you're qualified for them. These should all leverage your knowledge that you've gained so far but also keep you away from the heavy lifting stuff that likely won't be great for your back. Also, have you spoken to your union rep? They might have some ideas for you as well, since you're likely not the first person who wants/needs to transition to something less physically demanding. | 1 | 8,092 | 1.5 | ||
vtdl8z | architecture_train | 0.93 | Blue collar Ironworker looking to become an architect? Is it possible? Ask/r/Architecture Blue collar union ironworker for over 16 years in the field, I’m wondering how difficult would it be to transition into being an architect? Are there internships or Apprenticeships? Is it worth the career change? Dealing with a back injury and trying to find alternatives besides physical demanding work. Sorry I’m advance for my improper way of ask questions not too savvy on Reddit | if8wuin | if8ewm2 | 1,657,222,501 | 1,657,215,603 | 3 | 2 | Maybe consider an architectural technologist career instead of architect. Only a two year program vs. degree program. You could enter the work force and if you still have the desire to become a full on architect, you could work towards it while you're working within the industry and still gaining experience. | I know someone who is a zoning genius, can plan decent apartments and recently started his own architecture firm. He studied religious studies all his life and picked up a job drafting for a plumbing subcontractor. This was apparently his way of getting further into the field, because he then studied zoning laws in NYC, managed to network with a few consultants and became an independent zoning consultant for his local community. Then he managed to get into an online arch masters program with only religious studies, and a portfolio of projects he’s already done as a consultant. Mind you he never called himself an architect because no license yet at that point, all work was submitted through a civil engineer, but he dealt with any objections from the city. He’s about to finish his degree now and be eligible for licensure after passing ARE 5. The point of my rambling sentences, is that this dude took a completely unorthodox approach to becoming an architect, though for now he has a licensed partner until he passes all the exams. It takes a certain type of determination, and a passion for this relatively thankless profession. Your reward is completing something that people will occupy and use every day. | 1 | 6,898 | 1.5 | ||
vtdl8z | architecture_train | 0.93 | Blue collar Ironworker looking to become an architect? Is it possible? Ask/r/Architecture Blue collar union ironworker for over 16 years in the field, I’m wondering how difficult would it be to transition into being an architect? Are there internships or Apprenticeships? Is it worth the career change? Dealing with a back injury and trying to find alternatives besides physical demanding work. Sorry I’m advance for my improper way of ask questions not too savvy on Reddit | if8fugx | if8wuin | 1,657,215,963 | 1,657,222,501 | 2 | 3 | Have you thought about project management? You make twice as much as an architect and your experience is much more relevant | Maybe consider an architectural technologist career instead of architect. Only a two year program vs. degree program. You could enter the work force and if you still have the desire to become a full on architect, you could work towards it while you're working within the industry and still gaining experience. | 0 | 6,538 | 1.5 | ||
vtdl8z | architecture_train | 0.93 | Blue collar Ironworker looking to become an architect? Is it possible? Ask/r/Architecture Blue collar union ironworker for over 16 years in the field, I’m wondering how difficult would it be to transition into being an architect? Are there internships or Apprenticeships? Is it worth the career change? Dealing with a back injury and trying to find alternatives besides physical demanding work. Sorry I’m advance for my improper way of ask questions not too savvy on Reddit | if8wuin | if8lcnw | 1,657,222,501 | 1,657,218,072 | 3 | 2 | Maybe consider an architectural technologist career instead of architect. Only a two year program vs. degree program. You could enter the work force and if you still have the desire to become a full on architect, you could work towards it while you're working within the industry and still gaining experience. | Nothing is not possible. Heh. Words... | 1 | 4,429 | 1.5 | ||
vtdl8z | architecture_train | 0.93 | Blue collar Ironworker looking to become an architect? Is it possible? Ask/r/Architecture Blue collar union ironworker for over 16 years in the field, I’m wondering how difficult would it be to transition into being an architect? Are there internships or Apprenticeships? Is it worth the career change? Dealing with a back injury and trying to find alternatives besides physical demanding work. Sorry I’m advance for my improper way of ask questions not too savvy on Reddit | if8wuin | if8r327 | 1,657,222,501 | 1,657,220,264 | 3 | 2 | Maybe consider an architectural technologist career instead of architect. Only a two year program vs. degree program. You could enter the work force and if you still have the desire to become a full on architect, you could work towards it while you're working within the industry and still gaining experience. | Go for it, it is really tough, but being an Ironworker, you know some things already, I hope you good luck my friend. | 1 | 2,237 | 1.5 |
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