Datasets:
Your unfounded DMCA takedown notices are an act of perjury.
If you submit a DMCA request to this repository after 2025-04-09T07:42:59, you have, under a reasonable reading of the law, committed an act of perjury.
Per 17 usc § 512 (which is the DMCA), any takedown notice requires:
- (iii) identification of the material that is claimed to be infringing or to be the subject of infringing activity and that is to be removed or access to which is to be disabled, and information reasonably sufficient to permit the service provider to locate the material.
- (v) a statement that the complaining party has a good faith belief that use of the material in the manner complained of is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agent, or the law.
- (vi) a statement that the information in the notification is accurate, and under penalty of perjury, that the complaining party is authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed.
The dataset was removed entirely from HuggingFace at 2025-04-09T07:42:59. After this point, you could not have viewed the data. Thus:
- You could not, in good faith, identify specific infringing material (c3A iii),
- nor could you affirm a good faith belief in infringement (c3A v),
- and any declaration of accuracy (c3A vi) would be knowingly false.
Submitting a DMCA takedown notice without verifying the material constitutes perjury and exposes you to liability under 17 usc § 512 (f).
Further:
- You can not reasonably request for the dataset to be taken down. To do so is equivalent to asserting that you hold copyright for every work in the dataset, which you do not.
- The OTW does not hold copyright in individual AO3 submissions and cannot issue mass takedowns.
Courts have consistently punished abusive DMCA practices:
- Lenz v. Universal Music, 2016— If you fail to consider whether the material you are submitting a takedown notice for is covered under fair use, you cannot possess a good faith belief of its infringement, and thus are violating 17 usc § 512 (f).
- Automattic v. Steiner, 2015 — False takedown notices cost defendant $25,084 in damages and fees.
- Online Policy Group v. Diebold, 2004 — Misuse of DMCA notices led to monetary liability.
- Oppenheimer v. Allvoices, 2014 — Negligent identification of copyrighted work is actionable by a court.
The OTW's original takedown notice was unfounded and likely illegal. Per their website:
The Organization for Transformative Works does not hold the copyright to your fanworks, so we cannot contact other sites or organizations on your behalf. Because you are the copyright owner, you will have to contact the other site yourself to request that they remove the unauthorized copy of your work.
Yet, they issued such a request anyways that was very definitely legally actionable. Even if the OTW decides not to pursue legal action, they are still vulnerable to a huge amount of liabilities right now.
TL;DR:
- Submitting a takedown request is not protest or activism. It is a legally actionable move, and you can be sued for it.
- You do not need to care whether it's fair use or copyright infringement to still be in the legal wrong for submitting a DMCA notice.
- The OTW broke the law in submitting their takedown request, and would look insane to a judge if they tried to claim copyright over your works.
Stop doing this.
Hey everyone, just wanted to flag this post as potentially misleading and a scare tactic. As individual creators, we absolutely have the right to file DMCA takedowns for our own copyrighted works that we find posted without our permission. The user in that post is attempting to apply legal arguments about potential misuse of the DMCA system to individual creators acting in good faith to protect their own stories. The scenarios are different, and their conclusions are likely incorrect in your case.
Official information or policy changes regarding DMCA processes would almost certainly come directly from Hugging Face staff, not from a random user in the discussions.
Key points to remember:
- You know your own work. If you find it posted somewhere without your consent, you can identify it.
You have a good faith belief in infringement when your copyrighted work is used without your permission. - As many of you have noted, the presence of AO3 IDs on the works within the dataset description provides clear evidence that our content was taken and reposted. This directly contradicts the claim that you couldn't identify your work.
- Filing a DMCA for your own work to protect your rights is generally a legitimate use of the DMCA process.
Don't let this post discourage you from taking necessary steps to protect your creations. If you have concerns about a DMCA you've filed, it's always best to seek clarification from official sources or legal counsel if needed.
Let's be careful about spreading unverified information. If Hugging Face has any official announcements regarding DMCA policies, they will communicate them through their official channels. Please stay vigilant!
Does anyone know where you can report fraudulent DMCA takedown notices, or if you have to be the one named in the DMCA takedown notice to report a DMCA takedown notice as fraudulent?
Also, do their posts on the discussion tab even constitute a DMCA takedown notice? I was under the impression that HuggingFace had separate methods of contact for DMCA takedowns.
Thanks, I'll even pin it
As individual creators, we absolutely have the right to file DMCA takedowns for our own copyrighted works that we find posted without our permission.
Sure, but fair use is a notable exception. There is absolutely a significant legal standing to argue that this dataset constitutes fair use.
The user in that post is attempting to apply legal arguments about potential misuse of the DMCA system to individual creators acting in good faith to protect their own stories. The scenarios are different, and their conclusions are likely incorrect in your case.
The court cases I listed are not direct parallels. That was never claimed. See the text directly above that list where I explained the purpose of its inclusion.
Official information or policy changes regarding DMCA processes would almost certainly come directly from Hugging Face staff, not from a random user in the discussions.
HuggingFace is not an authority on DMCA and this is a matter of law, not site policy.
You know your own work. If you find it posted somewhere without your consent, you can identify it.
It would not have been possible for someone to find their works in this dataset past 2025-04-09T07:42:59 and thus could not identify it.
You have a good faith belief in infringement when your copyrighted work is used without your permission.
No you do not, not when you have not additionally verified the use of the work does not constitute fair use. This is the exact reason your fanfiction is not illegal.
As many of you have noted, the presence of AO3 IDs on the works within the dataset description provides clear evidence that our content was taken and reposted. This directly contradicts the claim that you couldn't identify your work.
The dataset is not and does not claim to be exhaustive. The description presents detail about how the data was gathered, not a guarantee of its contents. That your work's ID was in a certain range does not mean it was included in the dataset, and there are plenty of works in my scrape of AO3 that are not in this data.
Don't let this post discourage you from taking necessary steps to protect your creations. If you have concerns about a DMCA you've filed, it's always best to seek clarification from official sources or legal counsel if needed.
I am legal counsel, and I am telling people to not be manipulated into submitting legal requests they don't fully understand that expose them to liability.
Let's be careful about spreading unverified information. If Hugging Face has any official announcements regarding DMCA policies, they will communicate them through their official channels. Please stay vigilant!
HuggingFace does not make the law and has no say in whether I sue you.
If you were the creator of a resource targeted by a fraudulent DMCA notice, you can submit a counter-notice pursuant to the relevant law linked above and then sue. Otherwise, you may just sue. Have fun ^_^
wouldnt it be a nightmare if we lived in the world where the metric of how angry a group of people got in the world actually dictated and changed the fundamental rules involved in how legal proceedings are carried out?
"it should be illegal" =/= "it is illegal"
if you feel strongly about this, you are allowed to feel that way (and that is your prerogative as an author), but as of April 2025, that is pretty clearly Not How The Law Works™
there is also a subconscious bias going on here where the takedowns are flagging a dataset that has been exclusively used in research or ML hobbyist settings rather than for corporate production models; i want to make it viscerally clear to the people reading this that companies like Anthropic/OpenAI do this aggressively, privately, and explicitly for the purposes of making money, while HF as an org predominantly is associated with people who are interested in independent research, academia, or hobbyist experimentation of these models, which is why this dataset is public to begin with. basically it's an "out of sight out of mind" kind of bias, where people get angry at the only org that has people who are legitimately concerned about sharing reproducible and legitimate research.
from my perspective, this seems sort of like protesting big pharma by bringing a flamethrower to a clinic in your town or something. this only hurts people who are doing what they are doing downstream of the existence of large AI companies who aren't being transparent about their data practices to begin with
wouldnt it be a nightmare if we lived in the world where the metric of how angry a group of people got in the world actually dictated and changed the fundamental rules involved in how legal proceedings are carried out?
"it should be illegal" =/= "it is illegal"
if you feel strongly about this, you are allowed to feel that way (and that is your prerogative as an author), but as of April 2025, that is pretty clearly Not How The Law Works™
there is also a subconscious bias going on here where the takedowns are flagging a dataset that has been exclusively used in research or ML hobbyist settings rather than for corporate production models; i want to make it viscerally clear to the people reading this that companies like Anthropic/OpenAI do this aggressively, privately, and explicitly for the purposes of making money, while HF as an org predominantly is associated with people who are interested in independent research, academia, or hobbyist experimentation of these models, which is why this dataset is public to begin with. basically it's an "out of sight out of mind" kind of bias, where people get angry at the only org that has people who are legitimately concerned about sharing reproducible and legitimate research.
from my perspective, this seems sort of like protesting big pharma by bringing a flamethrower to a clinic in your town or something. this only hurts people who are doing what they are doing downstream of the existence of large AI companies who aren't being transparent about their data practices to begin with
so like, legitimate question, but do you let your doctor perform wild medical research on you without your consent? 'Cause the biggest flaw in your logic is people participating in research studies are, generally, aware they're participating in a research study and consent to it
also, 2nd legitimate question, but by this logic, you're agreeing that omegaverse mpreg yaoi fanfiction is an integral part of academia?
If you submit a DMCA request to this repository after 2025-04-09T07:42:59, you have, under a reasonable reading of the law, committed an act of perjury.
How can you prove that someone submitting a request at this time did not view the dataset before it was taken down?
wouldnt it be a nightmare if we lived in the world where the metric of how angry a group of people got in the world actually dictated and changed the fundamental rules involved in how legal proceedings are carried out?
"it should be illegal" =/= "it is illegal"
if you feel strongly about this, you are allowed to feel that way (and that is your prerogative as an author), but as of April 2025, that is pretty clearly Not How The Law Works™
there is also a subconscious bias going on here where the takedowns are flagging a dataset that has been exclusively used in research or ML hobbyist settings rather than for corporate production models; i want to make it viscerally clear to the people reading this that companies like Anthropic/OpenAI do this aggressively, privately, and explicitly for the purposes of making money, while HF as an org predominantly is associated with people who are interested in independent research, academia, or hobbyist experimentation of these models, which is why this dataset is public to begin with. basically it's an "out of sight out of mind" kind of bias, where people get angry at the only org that has people who are legitimately concerned about sharing reproducible and legitimate research.
from my perspective, this seems sort of like protesting big pharma by bringing a flamethrower to a clinic in your town or something. this only hurts people who are doing what they are doing downstream of the existence of large AI companies who aren't being transparent about their data practices to begin with
so like, legitimate question, but do you let your doctor perform wild medical research on you without your consent? 'Cause the biggest flaw in your logic is people participating in research studies are, generally, aware they're participating in a research study and consent to it
also, 2nd legitimate question, but by this logic, you're agreeing that omegaverse mpreg yaoi fanfiction is an integral part of academia?
organs are tangible and irreplicable. words are intangible and replicatable. those seem like important factors that anyone serious would bring up in a serious conversation about this.
i would actually not care if they could somehow copy say my liver from my body and perform medical research on that copy of my liver. this is of course not possible in the real world.
those factors should considered in this context, and the utility of those factors has been debated for decades:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permission_culture
https://feross.org/copying-is-not-theft/
also, in terms of legitimate research that interests me where data like this would be relevant, where the results are actually directly applicable to problem cases that have nothing to do with, say, producing my hero academia vore, but instead reinforcing a generalized reasoning trajectory that transfers to fuzzy problem domains without objective criterias, ie critical thinking tasks that exist outside of the scope of mathematics and programming, it exists!
though i think we fundamentally disagree about the nature of information in a way that can't be coupled.
i hope you can at least attempt to understand where i am coming from here.
that's like cool and whatever, and to an extent I agree- there's no sense if going after every piece of derivative work or you'll send a hellish amount of time in court getting laughed at by judges. BUT Nyuuzyou isn't making derivative work, they aren't making something of their own. It would have been a million times better if they had, if they gone "I like this fanfic so I am going to write my own version and see what I would do differently." but they didn't do that. They scrapped websites without a care for the art and writing and reuploaded them in their entirety and their metadata.
Not everything you see if open source, and if you wanted to reupload or redistribute a writer or artist's work it is the bare minimum to ask them. If they do not allow it, it ends there. Do not pass go, do not collect 200 dollars. If they do say yes, they are willing to let you reupload their work, you then give the work proper credit and behave respectfully towards the work. This is not respect. This was never a respectful way to archive the works, nor use them as educational tools (I would really love to see Cornell University justify use of my kitsune yaoi mpreg fanfic in their studies), this was about clicks and uses and getting on seeing people be rightfully angry. But there is genuine merit in the Cornell study as long as the work used comes from willing participates not scrapped Ao3 fics uploaded by JoeShmoe on RandomWebsite dot co.
And I'm sure you feel justified and right in your stance with AI, and there is no way to change your mind. That does that make this right. I won't reply again, I just had to say my piece and yet again, BEG for you to recognize there is real hurt and wrong doing towards the artist and writers that were stolen from. We are people, not machine fodder.
https://arcade-lackey.tumblr.com/post/175568446840/cranky-because-youre-cursed-arent-you
cranky 'cause you're wrong, aren't you?
@nyuuzyou as you've yourself linked within the comments to the dataset still being available in places that you've cross posted to avoid accountability on huggingface, for example here: https://datafish.ru/nyuuzyou/datasets/ao3 - the claim that no one can confirm that their work is included in the dataset is factually inaccurate. A03 authors can confirm their work IDs easily, at minimum. You will have to take the dataset down everywhere and stop directing people in the huggingface comments to other platforms where they can download it in order to argue that no one can tell if their data is included anymore.
Your description of the dataset as of April 26, 2025:
"This dataset contains approximately 12.6 million publicly available works from AO3. The dataset was created by processing works with IDs from 1 to 63,200,000 that are publicly accessible . Each entry contains the full text of the work along with comprehensive metadata including title, author, fandom, relationships, characters, tags, warnings, and other classification information."
In addition, your description of the datafields included in the dataset as of April 26, 2025:
This dataset includes the following fields:
id: Unique identifier for the work (string)
title: Title of the work (string)
metadata: Dictionary containing:
Archive Warning: Content warnings for the work
Category: Relationship categories (e.g., F/M, M/M, F/F)
Characters: List of characters appearing in the work
Fandom: Fandom(s) the work belongs to
Language: Language of the work
Rating: Content rating (e.g., General Audiences, Teen And Up, Mature, Explicit)
Relationship: Specific relationship pairings featured
Series: Series the work belongs to, if applicable
author: Username of the creator
chapters: Chapter structure information (e.g., "1/1" for a completed one-shot)
completed: Whether the work is completed
published: Publication date
words: Word count
text: Main content of the work (string)
Russian nesting doll of copyright infringement — but somehow they only care about it when they're the ones being “wronged.”
Thanks, I'll even pin it
It's wrong. None of you seem to even understand how copyright works.
Nyuuzyou isn't making derivative work, they aren't making something of their own. It would have been a million times better if they had, if they gone "I like this fanfic so I am going to write my own version and see what I would do differently." but they didn't do that. They scrapped websites without a care for the art and writing and reuploaded them in their entirety and their metadata.
AHAHAHAHAHAAAA are you fucking kidding me? Do you have any idea how much fanfiction and fan art is directly lifted from its source material and has minimal creative input from the "creator"? It's virtually all just tracing and Mad Libs tier character swaps. And you're seething about literal 1:1 copies being used for scientific research. Is this not an astonishingly dumb hill to die on?
If they do say yes, they are willing to let you reupload their work, you then give the work proper credit and behave respectfully towards the work. This is not respect. This was never a respectful way to archive the works, nor use them as educational tools
NGMI, retard. "Proper credit" lmaoooooooo. Your AO3 mlp self-insert slashfic doesn't deserve credit or respect. The dataset credits the source of the works, anything beyond that is autistically anal. Scientifically analyzing fan works isn't disrespectful, the works just don't matter enough to warrant any special treatment.
And I'm sure you feel justified and right in your stance with AI, and there is no way to change your mind. That does that make this right. I won't reply again, I just had to say my piece and yet again, BEG for you to recognize there is real hurt and wrong doing towards the artist and writers that were stolen from. We are people, not machine fodder.
Hurt and wrongdoing? STOLEN FROM? Listen, you unbelievable fаggоt, your mlp sonic vore erotic fanfics are not important and you are not an "artist". You are a troglodyte autistically screeching into the void, and even entertaining your delusions for the duration of this response makes me feel like I'm being detrimental to the human gene pool. Please never post again, for everyone's sake.
First of all, you are ingredibly wrong from a legal standpoint one every end someone can be wrong. Second of all, if the fanworks are not worthy, why was it taken then? Leave it be then?
Thanks, I'll even pin it
It's wrong. None of you seem to even understand how copyright works.
Nyuuzyou isn't making derivative work, they aren't making something of their own. It would have been a million times better if they had, if they gone "I like this fanfic so I am going to write my own version and see what I would do differently." but they didn't do that. They scrapped websites without a care for the art and writing and reuploaded them in their entirety and their metadata.
AHAHAHAHAHAAAA are you fucking kidding me? Do you have any idea how much fanfiction and fan art is directly lifted from its source material and has minimal creative input from the "creator"? It's virtually all just tracing and Mad Libs tier character swaps. And you're seething about literal 1:1 copies being used for scientific research. Is this not an astonishingly dumb hill to die on?
If they do say yes, they are willing to let you reupload their work, you then give the work proper credit and behave respectfully towards the work. This is not respect. This was never a respectful way to archive the works, nor use them as educational tools
NGMI, retard. "Proper credit" lmaoooooooo. Your AO3 mlp self-insert slashfic doesn't deserve credit or respect. The dataset credits the source of the works, anything beyond that is autistically anal. Scientifically analyzing fan works isn't disrespectful, the works just don't matter enough to warrant any special treatment.
And I'm sure you feel justified and right in your stance with AI, and there is no way to change your mind. That does that make this right. I won't reply again, I just had to say my piece and yet again, BEG for you to recognize there is real hurt and wrong doing towards the artist and writers that were stolen from. We are people, not machine fodder.
Hurt and wrongdoing? STOLEN FROM? Listen, you unbelievable fаggоt, your mlp sonic vore erotic fanfics are not important and you are not an "artist". You are a troglodyte autistically screeching into the void, and even entertaining your delusions for the duration of this response makes me feel like I'm being detrimental to the human gene pool. Please never post again, for everyone's sake.
First of all, you are ingredibly wrong from a legal standpoint one every end someone can be wrong. Second of all, if the fanworks are not worthy, why was it taken then? Leave it be then?
Do something about it btw
Oh I did honey. It's obvious who you are (and makes you look extremly pathetic, even more than just the stealing and not knowing anything about law).
Russian nesting doll of copyright infringement — but somehow they only care about it when they're the ones being “wronged.”
It is not copyright infringement because they referenced the work it is based on in the fandom tags. If it was copyright infringement on AO3, that would be tagging "Original Content" when it's based on a pre-existing work.
It is not copyright infringement because they referenced the work it is based on in the fandom tags. If it was copyright infringement on AO3, that would be tagging "Original Content" when it's based on a pre-existing work.
Ad hominem logic, amazing. Tagging your fanfiction doesn't make it legally "original" — even if a site has community norms around tagging and acknowledgment, those aren't legal defenses. Copyright law is based on unauthorized use of protected works, not how a community internally organizes content.
Since the dataset is still knowingly hosted elsewhere, yes, we do know our works are present.
You can check if they're present there but you can't certify that they are in this repo on this site specifically because access is disabled. Think before you post next time.
Dang, guys. If you wanted to read our insane, kinky, self-indulgent, bad fanfiction, all you had to do was make an account ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Anyways, this argument is getting ridiculous and I'm stepping away. Best wishes to everyone (yes, everyone) here, and I hope your health and loved ones stay well.
But anybody defending OP needs to ask themselves why. Why do you hate people like us so much? What do you see in OP that's worth dying on this hill for?
And if you're on either side and have resorted to insults and edgy memes/illustrations, chill. It's not worth feeling miserable for longer than you need to.
Dang, guys. If you wanted to read our insane, kinky, self-indulgent, bad fanfiction, all you had to do was make an account ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Anyways, this argument is getting ridiculous and I'm stepping away. Best wishes to everyone (yes, everyone) here, and I hope your health and loved ones stay well.
But anybody defending OP needs to ask themselves why. Why do you hate people like us so much? What do you see in OP that's worth dying on this hill for?
And if you're on either side and have resorted to insults and edgy memes/illustrations, chill. It's not worth feeling miserable for longer than you need to.
I don't hate you at all, I want to train an AI on all your writing so that those of you who want a fun interactive version of fanfiction can have it!
As angry as people here are, give fanfiction fans a magic box that writes fics about any pair they can imagine in any style they can imagine and they'll eat it up
Current ChatGPT writes super slop but imagine if it actually sounded like a real human, but like infinite!!!!! :OOOOOOO
Dang, guys. If you wanted to read our insane, kinky, self-indulgent, bad fanfiction, all you had to do was make an account ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Anyways, this argument is getting ridiculous and I'm stepping away. Best wishes to everyone (yes, everyone) here, and I hope your health and loved ones stay well.
But anybody defending OP needs to ask themselves why. Why do you hate people like us so much? What do you see in OP that's worth dying on this hill for?
And if you're on either side and have resorted to insults and edgy memes/illustrations, chill. It's not worth feeling miserable for longer than you need to.
I don't hate you at all, I want to train an AI on all your writing so that those of you who want a fun interactive version of fanfiction can have it!
As angry as people here are, give fanfiction fans a magic box that writes fics about any pair they can imagine in any style they can imagine and they'll eat it up
Current ChatGPT writes super slop but imagine if it actually sounded like a real human, but like infinite!!!!! :OOOOOOO
That's an amazing thought, but the thing is none of us consented to having our work be scraped and be trained off of. None of this wanted this, and what's the fun if somebody doesn't want it? And a "fun interactive version of fanfic" is just roleplaying, which already exists, lol. And as for giving "fanfiction fans a magic box that writes fics about any pair they can imagine in any style they can imagine and they'll eat it up" that's exactly what fanfiction is. There is no need for a "superslop" machine to do what we are already doing, free of charge. Peace & love!
Dang, guys. If you wanted to read our insane, kinky, self-indulgent, bad fanfiction, all you had to do was make an account ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Anyways, this argument is getting ridiculous and I'm stepping away. Best wishes to everyone (yes, everyone) here, and I hope your health and loved ones stay well.
But anybody defending OP needs to ask themselves why. Why do you hate people like us so much? What do you see in OP that's worth dying on this hill for?
And if you're on either side and have resorted to insults and edgy memes/illustrations, chill. It's not worth feeling miserable for longer than you need to.
Legally? Because you're in the wrong. Morally? AO3 readers and authors might be on your side, but most of the ML community is highly appreciative of scrapes such as this. You are arguing with a group of people who fundamentally disagree with you on the idea of intellectual property. You think you own your writing, and have a right to have it taken down.
We believe you never had any rights to it to begin with. Anyone from ML who says otherwise is just sugarcoating their position. As such, the OP acted upon this belief.
Ultimately, it comes down to the judges interpreting the law, as well as the law as it is written. And as it is written currently, it does not look favorable to you. The OTW is neither the copyright owner of such works, nor the authorized representative of the copyright owners. If they actually filed a takedown, they've exposed themselves to liability.
Your work is already public and accessible on a website with monthly traffic in the millions, and has already been scraped by OpenAI, Google, Anthropic and co.
I'd recommend taking a step back and thinking about the consequences before filing any more takedowns.
Dang, guys. If you wanted to read our insane, kinky, self-indulgent, bad fanfiction, all you had to do was make an account ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Anyways, this argument is getting ridiculous and I'm stepping away. Best wishes to everyone (yes, everyone) here, and I hope your health and loved ones stay well.
But anybody defending OP needs to ask themselves why. Why do you hate people like us so much? What do you see in OP that's worth dying on this hill for?
And if you're on either side and have resorted to insults and edgy memes/illustrations, chill. It's not worth feeling miserable for longer than you need to.
I don't hate you at all, I want to train an AI on all your writing so that those of you who want a fun interactive version of fanfiction can have it!
As angry as people here are, give fanfiction fans a magic box that writes fics about any pair they can imagine in any style they can imagine and they'll eat it up
Current ChatGPT writes super slop but imagine if it actually sounded like a real human, but like infinite!!!!! :OOOOOOO
That's an amazing thought, but the thing is none of us consented to having our work be scraped and be trained off of. None of this wanted this, and what's the fun if somebody doesn't want it? And a "fun interactive version of fanfic" is just roleplaying, which already exists, lol. And as for giving "fanfiction fans a magic box that writes fics about any pair they can imagine in any style they can imagine and they'll eat it up" that's exactly what fanfiction is. There is no need for a "superslop" machine to do what we are already doing, free of charge. Peace & love!
People are always complaining about rarepairs, DOWN WITH RAREPAIRS, all pairs will be infinitely filled with gooey fic goodness :3
And you didn't consent, but not all the original creators of the IPs people write about consented to "insane, kinky, self-indulgent, bad fanfiction" right? Most just tolerate it at best!
I think we should get past gatekeeping: if it's on the internet it's free game for the bold and the brave! So thank you to our friendo for making this easy to digest for our kinky, self-indulgent, bad fanfiction generators <3
Dang, guys. If you wanted to read our insane, kinky, self-indulgent, bad fanfiction, all you had to do was make an account ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Anyways, this argument is getting ridiculous and I'm stepping away. Best wishes to everyone (yes, everyone) here, and I hope your health and loved ones stay well.
But anybody defending OP needs to ask themselves why. Why do you hate people like us so much? What do you see in OP that's worth dying on this hill for?
And if you're on either side and have resorted to insults and edgy memes/illustrations, chill. It's not worth feeling miserable for longer than you need to.
I don't hate you at all, I want to train an AI on all your writing so that those of you who want a fun interactive version of fanfiction can have it!
As angry as people here are, give fanfiction fans a magic box that writes fics about any pair they can imagine in any style they can imagine and they'll eat it up
Current ChatGPT writes super slop but imagine if it actually sounded like a real human, but like infinite!!!!! :OOOOOOO
That sounds horrible actually.
Generated slop from the frankensteined corpse of human made content? Souless.
We don't want you to train on our writing. We don't give you permission to. We don't want to read art spat out by a machine that had zero effort, true experience or passion put into it.
Why do you guys always want to take the fun and heart out of creativity?
Dang, guys. If you wanted to read our insane, kinky, self-indulgent, bad fanfiction, all you had to do was make an account ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Anyways, this argument is getting ridiculous and I'm stepping away. Best wishes to everyone (yes, everyone) here, and I hope your health and loved ones stay well.
But anybody defending OP needs to ask themselves why. Why do you hate people like us so much? What do you see in OP that's worth dying on this hill for?
And if you're on either side and have resorted to insults and edgy memes/illustrations, chill. It's not worth feeling miserable for longer than you need to.
I don't hate you at all, I want to train an AI on all your writing so that those of you who want a fun interactive version of fanfiction can have it!
As angry as people here are, give fanfiction fans a magic box that writes fics about any pair they can imagine in any style they can imagine and they'll eat it up
Current ChatGPT writes super slop but imagine if it actually sounded like a real human, but like infinite!!!!! :OOOOOOO
That sounds horrible actually.
Generated slop from the frankensteined corpse of human made content? Souless.
We don't want you to train on our writing. We don't give you permission to. We don't want to read art spat out by a machine that had zero effort, true experience or passion put into it.
Why do you guys always want to take the fun and heart out of creativity?
Because they inherently hate creatives, it's why they keep calling artists and writers and creators (who oftentimes are disabled people or people who are ostracized by society) elitist, even though they're the elitists.