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herdrick
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Yeah, me too.
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rhmason
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Because I want to get it right this time. In my previous startup I never felt more alive, creatively engaged and felt like I was doing the best work of my career. Life is short and no job holds the attraction to me that a startup does.
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rami
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You should try WorkHack.com, it is a todo list compatible with IE and firefox.
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[IBM developerWorks] Develop Web applications for local use - Learn when a browser is better than a GUI application, and when a CGI is best of all
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Alex3917
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False Dilemma. The author frames it as if its a choice between starting a startup that has a high probability of failing or doing nothing. However, most people who don't start startups have to work work for big companies, which have all the same problems but worse.
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davidw
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There are opportunity costs involved with starting a company instead of working at BigCo, and if there is, as the article says, an "entrepreneur bubble", then some people are doubtless making the wrong choice.
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The Entrepreneur Bubble
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ashu
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Well, that's a challenge for us, then. Let's see if we can make the y-coord of the overhead line start below the time-saved line :P <p>Also, we'd love to know what is causing your inertia at this moment.
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http://www.yafla.com/dforbes/2007/02/20.html#a387
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herdrick
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Integrating directly with banks is on the cards<p>Did you mean 'in the cards' or are you an Agile/XP shop?
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ecuzzillo
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Tim O'Reilly's talk suddenly turns into the last 10 minutes of your talk at 17:00.
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ecuzzillo
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Having not lived the days of yore, I'm guessing that there were inferior mail clients that came before pine that are now long-forgotten because pine was better. Gmail is a similarly superior online email; it may not be the first, but it's the best, and that's all anyone remembers.
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davidw
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Don't worry, I'm busy working on Stuff To Do right now to make it work with IE.<p>Also, some extras that Stuff To Do has:<p>* Groups - share tasks with other people in your work group with simple drag/drop.<p>* Time tracking. Keep track of how much time you've spent on each thing.<p>* Reports. No fancy graphs, yet, but it does break things down by day and task over preselected time periods.
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Google - what's the big Idea?
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ttonca
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I never realized it but the characteristics are strikingly similar. Hilarious!
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ttonca
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Very thought provoking
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sszhou
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we each have one life to live, this makes the most of my life and takes the most out of it.
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kingkongrevenge
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big companies, which have all the same problems<p>Big companies have revenue. Most Web 2.0 companies don't and are going for the liquidity event.
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phil
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wouldn't top be alexa.com (etc.), or internet storm center? ;)
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precipice
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Yes, ecuzzillo said exactly what I meant. I also remember reading that Gmail consciously adopted Pine keyboard shortcuts (though I may have that wrong), which is why I made the direct link. Gmail seems like a very UNIX-y web mail client, where Hotmail, say, was not.<p>-Marc Hedlund
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OK, I sent you guys my thoughts using the feedback link.
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rami
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Cool, good luck, also consider reading http://gettingreal.37signals.com/ch05_It_Just_Doesnt_Matter.php<p>I recommend reading the whole book “Getting Real” (free from 37signals) especially chapter 5 on feature selection.
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zaidf
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Everything is cool - except the "CSS" part. What if some of those designs looked the same but used say...tables? I'm guessing they wouldn't make it on that list.<p>It is a dangerous path to become a standard fanatic for an entrepreneur and sites such as this encourage it. When my site goes live, the site layout showing up right in common browsers is more critical than having a "Trophy Homepage" powered by "Nothing But CSS."<p>That said, some inspirational designs!
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rami
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Cool, good luck, also consider reading http://gettingreal.37signals.com/ch05_It_Just_Doesnt_Matter.php<p>I recommend reading the whole book “Getting Real” (free from 37signals) especially chapter 5 on feature selection.
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dfranke
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Big companies are missing the "under the radar" component, so you get less duplication.
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whatsreal
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WOO HOO!! I'll join you. :) In all seriousness, its about building something that I can say "Yeah, that was me." not hide my face anytime someone mentions the product. It is nice to have the freedom to build effective, beautiful products, and the money is a nice kicker too, but it really comes down to not regretting my life. 20, 30, or 40 years spent building things for other people, things that aren't the best, or things that aren't pride inspiring, its not for me thank you.
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volida
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the writer of the articles compares two unequal things. The 80s with this era... The situation is a lot different. People back then didn't have any other channel to reach potential users, than marketting, which they had to pay. <p>The web is a new place, and the market is broader and global. You can be next to your grandma in Greece and sell to a client as far as Brazil through word of mouth......<p>my friends don't let some static minds trick you.<p>shall the best (lim best -&gt oo) win ;) ...<p>
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dfranke
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Well, elm came before pine, and the mailreader I use now, mutt, is elm-descended.
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pg
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Where this guy goes wrong is that he assumes (without realizing it) that there's some limit on the number of startups there can be. But that's probably not true.<p>No one proposes there's any limit on the number of people who can be employed by companies with thousands of people. Why should there be any limit on how many fragments that effort can be broken into?
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danielha
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It's a positive thing that they're attempting to involve their community, but it's another thing when they don't understand their community in the first place. <p>
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phil
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I think the question is, are the complaints they're getting facebook news feed type complaints? Or netscape.com relaunch type complaints?<p>One goes away when people get used to the newness. The other destroys any hope you had for a community.
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gustaf
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it's kind of complicated, whatever process you choose. email me at [email protected] if you want help. I'm from sweden and our company got funded by Y Combinator in November.
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jwecker
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tables would still qualify. What wouldn't qualify is a flash site.
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juwo
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I recently dissolved my advisor board. Advice is a strange thing. An illiterate nincompoop on the street can be right today, but the pedigreed suit in the boardroom puffing his cigar can be wrong about the same thing. But back to the topic, Talk is Cheap but Effort shows Commitment. Or to put it another way, if you have skin in the game, then I'll know that you are putting your money where your mouth is. What do you think?
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dfranke
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news.yc is a little more straightforward: geek reads submitted articles. Geek learns about building startups. Geek applies to YC. Geek gets rich. Geek gets laid.
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Alex3917
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I can see this appealing to maybe a couple hundred people in the entire world. Which is all it needs to be insanely profitable. Seriously, I bet some of the Fark photoshop contestants and Worth1000 people will be really into this.
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Alex3917
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USA Today completely misses the boat. <p>The reason the traditional first date used to be dinner and a movie was because the movie gives you something to talk about during dinner. <p>People read the paper for the same reason. It gives them social currency when they're talking to their friends. If you want to design a social community around your product, you have to design it so that enhances your product's core value proposition.<p>Instead of being about all about the reader, this new redesign is all about USA Today. The website looks like it was designed by a team of DMV employees and then sprinkled with banner ads.<p>Not to mention that it's five years too late.
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danielha
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This is an interesting watch. I very recently did a presentation on online identities (with mentions of Web 2.0) for a course.
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ashu
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This could just be my English crapping out at the wrong time. All I meant was "coming soon"!
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smackaysmith
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The guy should read the Orwell essay posted buy Guy Kawasaki earlier this week. What was there, 35% buzz words? He may have made good points; I can't parse his language.
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elviejo79
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Everything can be seen as an opportunity rather than a weakness. Like the people at 37 signals say: "Embrace your constraints Let limitations guide you to creative solutions<p>There's never enough to go around. Not enough time. Not enough money. Not enough people.<p>That's a good thing...."<p> And also the gapping void: 7. Keep your day job.<p> I&#65533;m not just saying that for the usual reason i.e. because I think your idea will fail. I&#65533;m saying it because to suddenly quit one&#65533;s job in a big ol' creative drama-queen moment is always, always, always in direct conflict with what I call "The Sex & Cash Theory".<p>THE SEX & CASH THEORY: "The creative person basically has two kinds of jobs: One is the sexy, creative kind. Second is the kind that pays the bills. Sometimes the task in hand covers both bases, but not often. This tense duality will always play center stage. It will never be transcended." http://www.gapingvoid.com/Moveable_Type/archives/000889.html
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Alex3917
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All these points are vague and non-actionable. Here's my take:<p>If you've been Net Native long enough you probably remember oFoto and Shutterfly and Webshots. What happened to all these sites? Flickr.<p>Flickr was designed around an open API from the ground up, meaning you could take your photos and embed around the web and in other applications. You could even take other people's photos and embed them around the web and in other applications. It was pretty sweet.<p>As a result they quickly dominated the photo sharing scene and were bought out by Yahoo! in record time.<p>Flickr's sustainable competitive advantage was freedom.<p>Back in June the Flickr team was having an internal debate about whether or not to allow competitors to data mine their site. Flickr's founder, Stewart Butterfield, posted a comment on his blog saying, <p>*******<p>"T]his is something that we've never had any set policy on and this thread has sparked a lot of internal debate on the team: some people felt that it was unreasonable, some people felt like it didn't matter since Flickr should win on the basis of being the best thing out there.<p>I actually had a change of heart and was convinced by Eric's position that we definitely should approve requests from direct competitors as long as they do the same. That means (a) that they need to have a full and complete API and (b) be willing to give us access.<p>The reasoning here is partly just that 'fair's fair' and more subtly, like a GPL license, it enforces user freedom down the chain. I think we'll take this approach (still discussing it internally)."<p>*******<p>This makes sense for a non-profit like Wikipedia but it was a bad idea in this case. Flickr made their money by tapping the differential in the freedom gradient, so by requiring reciprocal openness they are literally forcing the competition to steal their sustainable advantage.<p>The paradox is they'd be better off just bending over and taking it. That's pretty fucked up.<p>Or, as Thomas Pynchon says, "If you can get them asking the wrong questions, you don't have to worry about the answers."
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Alex3917
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There's a word for advisors with skin in the game: board members. <p>The advisor's job, besides giving help and advice, is to find the flaws in your thinking before the board does.
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danw
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Moo.com Mini Cards: Guy gives girl pretty moo card. Girl likes pretty moo card. Girl calls guy using number on back of moo card. Guy gets laid.
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python_kiss
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In my opinion, startup founders hit mid life crisis in their early 20s. Considering Paul's influence on YCombinator, I am guessing that is the age group most of us belong to. So go ahead and share with us your age.<p>I just turned 22 today :)
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zaidf
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Ah, 19 for another couple months:)<p>
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pg
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The average YC founder is about 25. The range so far has been from 19 to (I think) 33.
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python_kiss
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Paul, is the YC demographic a good representative of the average startup founder's age? Judging from your articles, I sense that there is a certain, though justified, bias towards funding younger startup founders. This is the excerpt I am referring to:<p>"The other reason it's hard to start a company before 23 is that people won't take you seriously. VCs won't trust you, and will try to reduce you to a mascot as a condition of funding. Customers will worry you're going to flake out and leave them stranded. Even you yourself, unless you're very unusual, will feel your age to some degree; you'll find it awkward to be the boss of someone much older than you, and if you're 21, hiring only people younger rather limits your options." - How to start a Startup
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ecuzzillo
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YC news *is* pretty much a startup reddit. If the reddit people had made a startup reddit before this, we probably wouldn't have a separate YC news. As such, I wouldn't really blame it for being just like reddit.
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Happy Birthday!<p>Hopefully by your 23rd you'll be getting ready to retire :-)
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wyday
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This article can be expanded to include forum software, namely phpBB. Who really needs, or more importantly, reads the list of all the active users in the forum? But the users of the phpBB software consistently leave in the unnecessary junk.<p>All in all, he accurately articulated a wider design laziness which can even be seen in commercial sites (opera.com vs. mozilla.com or reddit vs. news.ycombinator). I know that this parenthetical suggestion will get me modded down, but where's the line between copying a proven good idea and unwillingness to take a risk on an original design?
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abstractbill
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31.<p>For what it's worth, I feel more ready and able to do a startup now than I would have been when I was younger. Just for starters I was already in my mid-20s when I got my PhD.<p>A good friend of mine sold his startup last year to AOL for enough money that he'll never have to work again. He was 41 at the time and I believe his co-founder was around the same age. This gives me hope that I'm not quite over the hill yet ;-)
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nostrademons
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"In my opinion, startup founders hit mid life crisis in their early 20s."<p>I'd agree with that. I'm 25 and sometimes wonder if I'm over the hill.<p>Then again, my boss in my day job (sole founder and CEO) is almost 50. So it's not *impossible* to start late. I have noticed that it makes things difficult, culture-wise. The startup I'm at has a very 9-5 culture and tends to move fairly slowly, which is frustrating for young, ambitious hires like myself. It does have customers and manages to turn a profit, but I worry that we're falling behind the technology curve and may find ourselves without customers if a major market shake-out occurs or a competitor invades.
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amichail
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Creativity is essential for startups and for some people creativity increases with age: http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/14.07/genius.html
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wyday
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OpenOffice is an open-sourced MS Office look-alike. Does this mean that OpenOffice v3.0 will have to copy Office 2007's "ribbon" design? OpenOffice could instead take this opportunity, a time where MS alienates its existing users with a radical design, to formulate a unique design that increases OO's market share paralleling the IE vs. Firefox browser "war."
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Alex3917
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Blog design is a lot different than social systems design. When designing a blog you mainly have to worry about useability and aesthetics. Once you get the design of your blog just the way you like it, you never have to change it. <p>Whereas when you are designing a community you are trying to get maximize the quality of discussion, which is a function of both the people and the way they interact because of the systemic design. Once everyone knows what everyone else thinks the community begins to get stale, and to fix that (if seen as a problem) you need to redesign your site with the goal of either changing the mix of participants or changing the way they interact. <p>While news.ycombinator may visually look the same as Reddit, it changes both the people and the way they interact (through different algorithms). That is probably why I've almost completely stopped reading Reddit since this site launched, even though at first glance they seem similar.
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wyday
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I disagree with your two main points:<p>1. "Once you get the design of your blog just the way you like it, you never have to change it."<p>What if the design is just usable enough as to not draw any complaints? No complaints means perfect (or good enough) design, right? But what if, in constantly improving your design, you attract an audience that passed on your site initially. How would you know if you just let the blog go flat?<p>2. "Once everyone knows what everyone else thinks ... you need to redesign your site ..."<p>If the community is such that the people only contribute trite truisms, I don't think a redesign will do much to rectify the problem. I wouldn't know, though; I've never been to a site where everyone knows what the other users are thinking.
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ereldon
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The patent office opens up to the web!?
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python_kiss
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The Secrets to becoming an E-commerce Mogul
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aseemb
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Eighteen...:D
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akkartik
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Which page is this comment for? http://news.ycombinator.com/comments?id=2028<p>Please add a link from a comment's permalink page to the page it was commenting on.
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brett
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Alex3917
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I agree with you on point one.<p>As for point two, I suppose you never know what each individual is thinking. However, the aggregated wisdom tends to be fairly stable over time for any given topic. <p>For example, if the topic of Apple comes up on Digg then I pretty much know what the comments are going to say without having to click on them. If one person posts an especially insightful comment, and others recognize it as such, then chances are someone else will repost that comment in future threads about Apple. More and more people come to believe whatever is said, until someone else comes up with a new paradigm for Apple worship. So the discourse evolves, but slowly and in predictable patterns. <p>Certainly any given individual's opinions are constantly in flux, but what matters isn't the ideas of each individual brings to the system, but rather the range of diversity and novelty of thought present in the system as a whole.
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carefreeliving
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Harj
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I'm a current YC company founder and I'm 21. I see the points pg makes in that essay you quote but I can't say I've let them apply to me personally. I have someone working for our company at the moment who is 33, in fact I don't think I've ever worked with someone who is the same age or younger than me (my co founder is 23). I've never had a problem with it personally, in fact I probably prefer it as I can generally learn more from more older than I am.<p>To make that situation work I think you need to believe strongly in two things:<p>1) Being a good leader does not mean being the smartest/most knowledgeable person in your company. It means being able to spot the smartest people and make them work together and learn from each other. That's not as simple as it sounds<p>2) You MUST believe 110% that age is a completely irrelevant metric when determining the "smartness" of a person. I don't care if someone is 20 years older than I am - if they haven't done a start-up then that puts me ahead of them in respect to running a start up. They may be an infinitely better coder/designer/whatever than I am but not a better startup founder.<p>The second reason is why I ditched my career as an attorney to be a start up founder. I don't intend on letting my income be determined by the number of years I've been sitting behind a desk.
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ed
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I also agree with this observation, but it's clearly an unrealistic expectation that we should all be accomplished and nearing retirement by the time we're 30.<p>I'm a 22 year-old learning animal. I expect to get my ass handed to me every time I deal with someone my senior; given the experience I've had with my first start-up, I've found this to be par for the course. <p>While I believe that I have it in myself to build the foundation for a highly profitable company, I also expect that my ability to build great companies will only improve with age.
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omarish
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From the front page:<p>"We care more about how smart you are than how old you are, and more about the quality of your ideas than whether you have a formal business plan."<p>Perhaps the question should be: How many startups have you been a part of?
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python_kiss
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Terry Semel alone cannot be held responsible for Yahoo's misfortunes. The problem has its root in Yahoo's line extension; the company has too many products (often competing against each other) irrelevant to its core business. Each time Yahoo ventures outside its core business, it sets itself open to a confrontation by a more focused competitor. <p>For instance, why did Yahoo 360 do terrible while other social networks gained market share? Because other social networks were intensely focused on their market, Yahoo wasn't.
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benhoyt
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25, and my co-founders are 23 and 32.<p>Relatedly: two of us have wives and families, which does make things more difficult financially and time-wise. Do any other founders have families? Do you work on the startup full-time? How do you fund yourselves?
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paahijen
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Basically following reasons - <p>I read somewhere that paul said he wanted to do via-web to solve the money problem once and for all. I think that is a real good motivation. <p>Second, probability of trying 15 different things in next 5 years and having one homerun is not as low as one would be tempted to think.. That still saves you 20 years of doing job and you are firing on all cylinders when you really are doing what you like the most, so the odds definitely are with you... <p>Third there is a certain degree of ego satisfaction when 1000s of people are using what you created (again one starts with a hope right?) <p>
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davidw
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I don't know how it'll work out, but my wife and I are considering the idea of "wife's full time job as funding", in the sense that if she has a good job, and we can get by on her salary, then I'm free to work on some things of my own.<p>In some ways, I think it's nice to be married as it gives me a certain stability that I didn't have before.<p>Edit: BTW, I'm 31. I actually feel like it's the right time for me to try something of my own. I feel like I have a better vision of more things than I did when I was younger. I don't feel 'old' though, and we don't have kids (yet).
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Elfan
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A Google employee and Pine contributer (Ryan Barrett) compared the two and gave his thoughts on the matter:<p>http://snarfed.org/space/gmail%20vs%20pine
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dfranke
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I'll be sending in a YC application in a couple days if my cofounder decides to commit. I'm 21. He's 18.
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python_kiss
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Sorry, the original url is http://twopointouch.com/2007/02/21/7-habits-of-highly-effective-web-apps/
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mynameishere
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I don't know. I can't think of any video sites offhand that are _worse_ than youtube in most respects. The player is small, grainy, hard to control. The "community" is full of appalling idiots. The search feature is the worst I've ever seen. They did scale it very well--outages seemed minimal. I'm sure that is the greatest technical challenge for video.<p>Flickr is a real puzzle. Any jackass could have made that site. I think the stars just aligned for them. People can flippantly say things like, "Oh, Microsoft got lucky" or whatever, because they did get some breaks. But MSFT also did real work, not easily replicated. Flickr--geez. Most online stores have a photograph engine of some sort that does the same thing, as just one tiny feature.
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