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This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)
WASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.
President Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.
ADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.
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"The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children. In 30 years from now we will be seeing documentaries about children who suffered permanent psychological damage at the hands of Trumps administration. People will be shocked to learn that the U.S. government focible took these peoples children and intentionally separated them to be cruel.",
">\n\nThe people who supported it will pretend they never knew anything about it and act shocked and disgusted.",
">\n\nThey already are claiming this did not happen or Obama did it or some other nonsense. Let me clear: Trump instituted a policy to forcibly separate children (including infants) from their legal asylum-seekng parents at the border. He did this to be cruel and scare people from coming. His minions then forgot to keep records of who the kids were.",
">\n\nI'd only argue with \"forgot.\" They intentionally didn't keep records so as to make it as difficult as possible to reunite these families. The cruelty was the point. In fact, they outright declared that they were doing this to try to dissuade people from coming to America. \"Try to seek asylum in America and we'll separate you from your kids who you'll never see again!\"",
">\n\n\"The laws are the laws\" = dead giveaway for a fascist. The law is there to serve the people. If it's not serving them, it should be changed.",
">\n\nWhat really gives away the game is politicians supporting and pushing through laws that do not have majority public support - anti-marijuana and abortion come to mind. Also the use of propaganda to try to affect levels of support for certain things.",
">\n\nA piece of legislation is almost always guaranteed to fail if it polls extremely popular with Americans on all sides. It's really sad...",
">\n\nYep, like “80% of Americans support this” and they’re uh… “oh but some discredited propaganda bullshit”. Really gives away who they are truly working for.",
">\n\nNo, they'll have their \"experts\" testify that they're correct. Then you find out the \"expert\" talking about MJ legalization is a LEO and the \"expert\" talking about abortion is a religious leader.",
">\n\nThe people who did this belong on trail for crimes against humanity at the Hague.\nActual consequences? Fuckin' crickets as usual.",
">\n\nReminder that under Bush the US granted itself permission to invade The Hague If an American citizen should ever be tried there.",
">\n\nWe should send Bush to be tried there.",
">\n\nTrump and his henchmen should be charged for these crimes. Of all of Trump's crimes, I think the concentration camps for immigrants and separating immigrants from their children were among the worst. We have to punish them or this will happen again next time they have the presidency.",
">\n\nAmerica doesn't punish Republican crimes.\n\nSource: Jan 6th",
">\n\nThe list of sources is very long.",
">\n\nIt starts at least with the Watergate. GWB never answered to war crimes or to lying to start a war. And Trump pardon the only person charged in the Valery Plane affair.",
">\n\nDidn't Nixon interfere with the peace process in Vietnam, extending the war so his opponent wouldn't get a win right before the election?",
">\n\nYep.",
">\n\nStephen Miller should be in a 6 x 9",
">\n\nAre there any cells smaller than that for that pea brained asshat?",
">\n\nThere’s a box",
">\n\nIf it fits it sits",
">\n\nThis program of separating parents from their children without documentation is going to be remembered in the same way we talk about the Syphilis Study at Tuskegee. Except that was the 1930s.\nOne of these days some of those kids are going to take their pound of flesh out of the United States either legally or violently, and they'll have right on their side.",
">\n\nnah, the fascists will have rewritten history in the US by then. Our kids will never learn about any of it unless we move.",
">\n\nPresident Ron Desantis III will remove it from the national curriculum.",
">\n\nProbably in a governor position he would still have that power",
">\n\nNever forget this was a crime against humanity. Conservatives supported it. Even your so called “moderate conservative friends”\nIf it had been your kid they wouldn’t give a fuck.\nIn 20 years people will call it a stain on our nation. But the sociopaths who enabled it are here right now.",
">\n\nThe sociopaths who enabled it are in a very good position to seize absolute control of our country, too.",
">\n\nDon’t forget that it’s the trump supporters that empowered the sociopaths.",
">\n\nIt boggles my mind how there isn't a bigger deal made of this. They stole kids from their parents. Any time it pops into my head, I'm infuriated. In a just world, Trump and his administration would be harshly punished.",
">\n\nSeriously. It is crime against HUMANITY",
">\n\nDOJ should throw kidnapping charges onto the pile of Trump crimes.",
">\n\nKidnapped. That's called kidnapping.",
">\n\nAbduction, human trafficking, genocide.\nTake your pick.",
">\n\nThis needs to be made into a drama doc, like the recent Jeffrey Dahmer series. I guarantee it would make a compelling story, and if done right, it would reach even strong trump supporters just by virtue of it's entertainment value. \nThis whole debacle was one of the cruelest things the US has done in decades, and it was done with Glee by a mentally unstable maniac and his supporters. The sooner we see it through the lens of history and regret, the better",
">\n\nWe better hurry before the republicans ban all history.",
">\n\nThis is only happening because trump never had a plan to reunite the families.\nFor those in the back. He ripped apart families with NO INTENTION OF THEM EVER BEING REUNITED.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. In order to create a situation like this, they had to have the intent to prevent the reuniting of families.",
">\n\nIt pains me to think how great this nation could be if the government didnt have to spend time and resources fixing the things republican admins did",
">\n\nIt's such an insane cycle. Conservatives fuck shit up, Dems finally get back in and spend the entire time fixing shit, conservatives run on \"look, they didn't make anything better!\", get back in to fuck shit up. Rinse and repeat.",
">\n\nExcept Dems (if they actually focus on it) are usually only able to fix 70ish% of the budgetary and humanitarian issues that were cause by the previous administration. Then when they lose reelection we slip further backwards.",
">\n\nWhat do you mean if?",
">\n\nIf they focus on repairing damage instead of squabbling with each other (which happens a lot).",
">\n\nAs a Mexican immigrant I really appreciate this",
">\n\nI just wish we had received the same support nationwide like BLM did.",
">\n\nOutraged Republicans demand to know why they were not sold to traffickers as they planned.",
">\n\nThink of all that could have been accomplished in the same time with the same effort if we didn't need them to focus on this. Every Democratic administration is hobbled by needing to undo the evils of the Republicans before them. And it doesn't go the other way because it only takes a second to wreck something, but it takes time to do things right.",
">\n\nContrarily to what the aryicle stars, they were not crossing illegaly. They came as asylum seekers, which is legal. Many (all?) of them arrived at official points of entry. These are not people who were arrested crossing the river in the middle of the night (not that it would justify taking their kids in any way).",
">\n\nOf course the Republican subs are silent on this\nFuck trump",
">\n\ngiving them all citizenship and all of their families is the least we could do for what we've done to those kids",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nThey’ll still be traumatized for the rest of their lives. Drug addiction, depression, suicides will plague these children. If there were any justice, the architects of this policy should be charged with crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nTypical go to of Christian nationalists is to steal children.",
">\n\nI guess the conservatives are ok as long it isn't their child or children.",
">\n\nI want to remind everyone here that Trump's ICE not only separated countless children from their parents, they then \"LOST\" them. Trafficked. They trafficked them. But they called them \"lost\". Then, in an absolutely astounding act of evil and affirmation of cruelty, they released the numbers to the public: 1488 lost children.\nYes. That's right. 1488, the same number literal nazis hold sacred.\nThe depth of evil and abuse and violence the right has descended to should be SO MUCH more alarming to more people. In case you think the assertion that the children were trafficked is alarmist please remember when they caught ICE transporting children without paperwork in the dead of night or keeping children in hotels without due process then sending them back to mexico with no transition process so they were essentially homeless.",
">\n\nWow. That is incredibly evil.",
">\n\nThe GOP are the Nazis come again. Time is a flat circle and most of the circle is fascism",
">\n\nNearly 75 percent is better than I expected, and they're still working. One small cause for optimism.",
">\n\nI wouldn't call it a small cause. This is pretty massive, actually following through with fixing this disgusting miscarriage of justice. I remember reading about this stuff happening and thinking that it would have to be a priority for a new administration. Glad it's being handled.",
">\n\nI remember reading this and thinking ‘holy fucking shit’, and my view on USA has not been the same since.\nThe fact Trump still got 70+ million votes after mandating/ordering this policy is insane.",
">\n\nTrump voters tend to be low information. If they even heard about this, they heard someone on Fox/Newsmax/twitter defending it or saying it was fantastic while distorting the truth about it.",
">\n\nI’d like to think they were ignorant, but somehow it all adds up. I can’t let it go.",
">\n\nNot enough, but it’s a start.",
">\n\nCrimes against humanity.",
">\n\nJesus Christ Trump was a disaster, we're just now returning the kids to their parents though?!? The damage we caused will never go away.",
">\n\nOver 2000 were returned during the Trump administration so these are part of the harder to find parents.",
">\n\nSomething tells me this will not be on many news stations tonight.",
">\n\nFinally. This is why I voted in 2020",
">\n\nI will be enraged until the headline reads ALL!",
">\n\nUnfortunately, that might never happen given that the Trump administration managed to lose track of a bunch of them. I wish I was making that up.",
">\n\nHow about the DOJ criminally prosecute the architects and others who had a hand in this heinous crime?",
">\n\n\nAccording to figures released by the Department of Homeland Security, 3,881 children were separated from their families from 2017 to 2021. About 74% of those have been reunited with their families: 2,176 before the task force was created and 689 afterward.\nBut that still leaves nearly 1,000 children. Of those, 148 are in the reunification process. The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children.\n\nUgh, close but not close enough to fixing this mistake.",
">\n\nRemember when the Trump administration claimed that it was impossible to reunite the families?",
">\n\nWhy do we always have to clean up after Republicans? Getting tiresome.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that because the separation policy was specifically designed to deter certain kinds of people from seeking asylum, these kidnappings qualify as a crime against humanity under international law.",
">\n\nA whole bunch of them were trafficked to the upper Midwest to work the overnight shift on meat packing plant floors. It was only uncovered when one of their middle school teachers called CPS because these kids were coming in with severe chemical burns on their hands and arms. And, yes - after working the overnight shift cleaning a meat processing plant floor, these kids were going to school all day. The youngest was 12.",
">\n\nOh no. Just appalling",
">\n\nBecause it’s the right thing to do. Well done. Still going to be a long road toward healing for those poor kids.",
">\n\nI'm still stunned nobody has gone to jail for this and that the US public did not draw the line at this. It is sickening.",
">\n\nWe don’t get credit for fixing our own fuckup",
">\n\nIt is SHAMEFUL how these people were treated.",
">\n\nThat is wonderful news. Trump and his administration were so evil and cruel. I can't imagine how anyone could be so heartless.",
">\n\nHow many of these kids were molested by Trump supporters? Not zero.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to think if Trump was still POTUS, these (and likely many more) kids would still be lost.",
">\n\nNot enough is made over the evil that Trump and Stephen Miller committed during this fiasco. \nObjectively horrific, vile men.",
">\n\nNever forget there was one boy who died in his own vomit for hours before someone checked up on him. My blood still seethes thinking about it.\nHis name was Carlos Gregorio Hernandez Vasquez, he was 16 from Guatemala.",
">\n\nI'm very happy to read this. That said, the fact that this ever happened (and I don't care who it happens under) is disgusting and needs to be completely stopped from happening again.",
">\n\nThis should be much bigger news",
">\n\nHow many years were these kids without their parents in a government camp?",
">\n\nClose to four years.",
">\n\nOh yea I forgot he did this, the absolute sicko",
">\n\nThis is real oppressive fascist shit, my dear Americans. Except those who should hear this either won't read this or don't have a problem with it...",
">\n\nThis probably puts SStephen Miller in the deepest of funks.",
">\n\nGenuinely good news and a step towards righting an intentionally monstrous act.",
">\n\nhow many more are there? how many were raped? how many died?",
">\n\nIt's good to see the nation moving closer to its founding principles.",
">\n\nIf this is true, it’s the only news I heard today that I give a single fuck about. Wow. YES. Keep going. 100% reunification.",
">\n\nThere are still missing children.",
">\n\nTrAnS pEoPlE aRe GrOoMiNg OuR cHiLdReN. No, there not, and your outrage would be more effective if it targeted the POS you voted for.",
">\n\nTrump reign of terror was so barbaric.",
">\n\nThing is. .....Republicans are probably unhappy about this.",
">\n\nThis definitely put a smile on my face! :)",
">\n\nUS reunites nearly 700 kids taken from parents under ~~Trump~~ the republicans.",
">\n\nSomehow trump will take credit for this. He'll say something like how much better he made those parents appreciate their children and the children their parents. Ugh.",
">\n\nbold of you to assume he'll pay any attention at all to them.",
">\n\nHow I fucking wish \"Kids in cages\" never became the misleading rallying cry against Trump when kidnapped children was the more accurate description of what the administration was doing that needed to be stopped immediately.\nHow many times have you seen some galaxy brain talk about how \"Oh nobody says 'kids in cages' anymore now that it's ok Biden is doing it!\" Yeah it was a stupid and inaccurate criticism to begin with, because any kind of policy of detaining people caught trying to cross the border illegally will fit the \"kids in cages\" meme. \nThe entire reason people got mad at Trump beyond the border wall nonsense was because he specifically ordered a family separation policy that was designed to function as a cruel deterrent to immigration. The Obama administration was forced to adopt a family separation policy because courts ruled that minors could not be detained with adults when detained by ICE, but the Trump administration embraced this policy and added on kidnapping and forced separation across the country which resembled human trafficking more than any kind of immigration policy.\nAnd yeah, Biden is reuniting people while still maintaining a policy of not letting anyone cross the border anywhere at any time for any reason. We can talk about the ethics of detaining people caught trying to cross a national border illegally, and we should. But its an entirely separate discussion from whether one should steal their kids and ship them across the country and throw away the records of where they went.",
">\n\nAnother horrifying legacy of the US.",
">\n\nStephen Miller needs to be permanently attached to this heartless decision.",
">\n\nThe damage has been done. It's literally the least we can do is give them their children back.. I can't even believe that sentence needed to be said. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nFinally, someone thought of the children",
">\n\nYet another crime that orange gasbag will never be punished for…",
">\n\nThis chapter of Trump's presidency was truly mask off evil from the party that professes that they are the party of morals and family values. Before this people could argue that they could be afforded the benefit of the doubt. I kind of knew that Republicans were trolls and bad faith actors but then after this I knew that they really have no bottom line with how low they are willing to go. Truly evil what they did to those desperate families and kids when it would have been the easiest thing in the world to just not.",
">\n\nThis is not the same war crime Russia is doing in the Ukraine. It's a completely different war crime.",
">\n\nIt's sad and despicable that this is even necessary.",
">\n\nThis post has about 670 comments. Imagine if every single one of them was a family reunion. Heartbreaking cruelty from the last administration.",
">\n\nThe Trimp administration did a lot terrible things and had plenty of awful, harmful policies. But this is one of those times when it crossed the line into literal evil.",
">\n\nI figured this was happening in the background but damn it's heartbreaking that it's taking this long because of how thoroughly Trump fucked up any semblance of process for the DHS\nLike don't get me wrong, anyone who works for ICE is and always has been a disgusting pig, but they used to be disgusting pigs bound by similar levels of US bureaucracy as the rest of the government",
">\n\nThis was a very good thing to do and the media isn’t talking about it.",
">\n\nThis needs to be bigger news",
">\n\nWhat the hell AP, it was the US under Trump too. Maybe a better headline might have been \"Biden admin reunites nearly 700...\"",
">\n\nOur bad, we did teach the kid to walk and talk, she mostly knows to say “put your hands through the bars” but still.",
">\n\nThis is news I've been waiting 6 years for.",
">\n\nWas Eric one of them?",
">\n\nI will look for you, I will find you and I will reunite you",
">\n\nLike the motherfucking handmaids tale or some shit",
">\n\nIt's nice for the country to be taking a step back towards its ideals.",
">\n\nWhy the fuck is this not plastered all over the news? This was an international outrage for years and now it’s a tiny news story thrown in on a Friday? Whomever is in charge of the WH Press Office should be ashamed.",
">\n\nNot sure what the White House Press Office could do here if outlets simply don't bother pushing the story.",
">\n\nI want to know how many are still separated.\nEverything else is not good enough.",
">\n\nYou will need to do a slight bit of math when reading the article to get the exact number but it as about a thousand remaining to be united.",
">\n\nI feel for these kids (and their parents). Many of them have been sexually assaulted because no one was there to protect them.",
">\n\nGee, Trump reminds me of Hitler for some reason. Does anyone else see a similarity? One redeeming factor is that we all know how Hitler ended up.",
">\n\nIt is a great labor to undo great evils. \nGlad it's being done.",
">\n\nHow many in total were separated? 700 is great, but if there are still 1,000s more this should also be an equal amount of new coverage.",
">\n\nThe exact counts are in the article if you want them.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if the articles were meant to be read.",
">\n\nIt’s a good start",
">\n\nIs trump a Russian spy?\nA global traitor",
">\n\nWhen will the real criminals be put in jail?",
">\n\nvery nice to see this happen and hopefully never happens again.",
">\n\nI pray the remaining children are with US family members. This was an impeachable criminal act by Trump",
">\n\nThis was by far the most evil thing his administration did.",
">\n\nNow seperate Trump from his family.",
">\n\nI mean, damage done. If I was fleeing my home in terror from economic disaster, and the place I ran to stole my fucking kid from me, and I didn’t get them back for three years?…. I mean… that dude is a terrorist now. What is left in his life except to punish this country?",
">\n\nLock him up",
">\n\nSome good news",
">\n\nThis is not enough.",
">\n\nI was kidnapped and separated from one of my parents for a week when I was young. To be separated for such a long time… The shit is going to haunt those kids for the rest of their lives and they will likely hate those who put them through this. I know this firsthand just based how lost I felt in my experience.",
">\n\nSome good news.",
">\n\nOh, well that's good news.",
">\n\nBut I was told in 2016 that Democrats were the same as Republicans.",
">\n\nI know the mods have that thing about being courteous to others blah blah blah, but fuck trump...",
">\n\nYes, but there are still an estimated 1,000 more that they can’t even find yet. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nThe headline shouldn't exist but half the country literally voted for this to happen. It's insane. Ashamed to be an American.",
">\n\nAfter the last child is reunited with family, Melania's \"I don't really care do you\" jacket will be displayed in the Smithsonian.",
">\n\n*Biden administration reunites 700 kids taken from parents under trump",
">\n\nOnly 49,300 to go.",
">\n\nThe Trump administration was monstrous. If there is such a thing as Karma this country has a lot to pay for…",
">\n\nI hope they use this to finally lock up Trump and his goons. This is disgusting and a stain on the US.",
">\n\nThe right thing to do."
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"The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children. In 30 years from now we will be seeing documentaries about children who suffered permanent psychological damage at the hands of Trumps administration. People will be shocked to learn that the U.S. government focible took these peoples children and intentionally separated them to be cruel.",
">\n\nThe people who supported it will pretend they never knew anything about it and act shocked and disgusted.",
">\n\nThey already are claiming this did not happen or Obama did it or some other nonsense. Let me clear: Trump instituted a policy to forcibly separate children (including infants) from their legal asylum-seekng parents at the border. He did this to be cruel and scare people from coming. His minions then forgot to keep records of who the kids were.",
">\n\nI'd only argue with \"forgot.\" They intentionally didn't keep records so as to make it as difficult as possible to reunite these families. The cruelty was the point. In fact, they outright declared that they were doing this to try to dissuade people from coming to America. \"Try to seek asylum in America and we'll separate you from your kids who you'll never see again!\"",
">\n\n\"The laws are the laws\" = dead giveaway for a fascist. The law is there to serve the people. If it's not serving them, it should be changed.",
">\n\nWhat really gives away the game is politicians supporting and pushing through laws that do not have majority public support - anti-marijuana and abortion come to mind. Also the use of propaganda to try to affect levels of support for certain things.",
">\n\nA piece of legislation is almost always guaranteed to fail if it polls extremely popular with Americans on all sides. It's really sad...",
">\n\nYep, like “80% of Americans support this” and they’re uh… “oh but some discredited propaganda bullshit”. Really gives away who they are truly working for.",
">\n\nNo, they'll have their \"experts\" testify that they're correct. Then you find out the \"expert\" talking about MJ legalization is a LEO and the \"expert\" talking about abortion is a religious leader.",
">\n\nThe people who did this belong on trail for crimes against humanity at the Hague.\nActual consequences? Fuckin' crickets as usual.",
">\n\nReminder that under Bush the US granted itself permission to invade The Hague If an American citizen should ever be tried there.",
">\n\nWe should send Bush to be tried there.",
">\n\nTrump and his henchmen should be charged for these crimes. Of all of Trump's crimes, I think the concentration camps for immigrants and separating immigrants from their children were among the worst. We have to punish them or this will happen again next time they have the presidency.",
">\n\nAmerica doesn't punish Republican crimes.\n\nSource: Jan 6th",
">\n\nThe list of sources is very long.",
">\n\nIt starts at least with the Watergate. GWB never answered to war crimes or to lying to start a war. And Trump pardon the only person charged in the Valery Plane affair.",
">\n\nDidn't Nixon interfere with the peace process in Vietnam, extending the war so his opponent wouldn't get a win right before the election?",
">\n\nYep.",
">\n\nStephen Miller should be in a 6 x 9",
">\n\nAre there any cells smaller than that for that pea brained asshat?",
">\n\nThere’s a box",
">\n\nIf it fits it sits",
">\n\nThis program of separating parents from their children without documentation is going to be remembered in the same way we talk about the Syphilis Study at Tuskegee. Except that was the 1930s.\nOne of these days some of those kids are going to take their pound of flesh out of the United States either legally or violently, and they'll have right on their side.",
">\n\nnah, the fascists will have rewritten history in the US by then. Our kids will never learn about any of it unless we move.",
">\n\nPresident Ron Desantis III will remove it from the national curriculum.",
">\n\nProbably in a governor position he would still have that power",
">\n\nNever forget this was a crime against humanity. Conservatives supported it. Even your so called “moderate conservative friends”\nIf it had been your kid they wouldn’t give a fuck.\nIn 20 years people will call it a stain on our nation. But the sociopaths who enabled it are here right now.",
">\n\nThe sociopaths who enabled it are in a very good position to seize absolute control of our country, too.",
">\n\nDon’t forget that it’s the trump supporters that empowered the sociopaths.",
">\n\nIt boggles my mind how there isn't a bigger deal made of this. They stole kids from their parents. Any time it pops into my head, I'm infuriated. In a just world, Trump and his administration would be harshly punished.",
">\n\nSeriously. It is crime against HUMANITY",
">\n\nDOJ should throw kidnapping charges onto the pile of Trump crimes.",
">\n\nKidnapped. That's called kidnapping.",
">\n\nAbduction, human trafficking, genocide.\nTake your pick.",
">\n\nThis needs to be made into a drama doc, like the recent Jeffrey Dahmer series. I guarantee it would make a compelling story, and if done right, it would reach even strong trump supporters just by virtue of it's entertainment value. \nThis whole debacle was one of the cruelest things the US has done in decades, and it was done with Glee by a mentally unstable maniac and his supporters. The sooner we see it through the lens of history and regret, the better",
">\n\nWe better hurry before the republicans ban all history.",
">\n\nThis is only happening because trump never had a plan to reunite the families.\nFor those in the back. He ripped apart families with NO INTENTION OF THEM EVER BEING REUNITED.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. In order to create a situation like this, they had to have the intent to prevent the reuniting of families.",
">\n\nIt pains me to think how great this nation could be if the government didnt have to spend time and resources fixing the things republican admins did",
">\n\nIt's such an insane cycle. Conservatives fuck shit up, Dems finally get back in and spend the entire time fixing shit, conservatives run on \"look, they didn't make anything better!\", get back in to fuck shit up. Rinse and repeat.",
">\n\nExcept Dems (if they actually focus on it) are usually only able to fix 70ish% of the budgetary and humanitarian issues that were cause by the previous administration. Then when they lose reelection we slip further backwards.",
">\n\nWhat do you mean if?",
">\n\nIf they focus on repairing damage instead of squabbling with each other (which happens a lot).",
">\n\nAs a Mexican immigrant I really appreciate this",
">\n\nI just wish we had received the same support nationwide like BLM did.",
">\n\nOutraged Republicans demand to know why they were not sold to traffickers as they planned.",
">\n\nThink of all that could have been accomplished in the same time with the same effort if we didn't need them to focus on this. Every Democratic administration is hobbled by needing to undo the evils of the Republicans before them. And it doesn't go the other way because it only takes a second to wreck something, but it takes time to do things right.",
">\n\nContrarily to what the aryicle stars, they were not crossing illegaly. They came as asylum seekers, which is legal. Many (all?) of them arrived at official points of entry. These are not people who were arrested crossing the river in the middle of the night (not that it would justify taking their kids in any way).",
">\n\nOf course the Republican subs are silent on this\nFuck trump",
">\n\ngiving them all citizenship and all of their families is the least we could do for what we've done to those kids",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nThey’ll still be traumatized for the rest of their lives. Drug addiction, depression, suicides will plague these children. If there were any justice, the architects of this policy should be charged with crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nTypical go to of Christian nationalists is to steal children.",
">\n\nI guess the conservatives are ok as long it isn't their child or children.",
">\n\nI want to remind everyone here that Trump's ICE not only separated countless children from their parents, they then \"LOST\" them. Trafficked. They trafficked them. But they called them \"lost\". Then, in an absolutely astounding act of evil and affirmation of cruelty, they released the numbers to the public: 1488 lost children.\nYes. That's right. 1488, the same number literal nazis hold sacred.\nThe depth of evil and abuse and violence the right has descended to should be SO MUCH more alarming to more people. In case you think the assertion that the children were trafficked is alarmist please remember when they caught ICE transporting children without paperwork in the dead of night or keeping children in hotels without due process then sending them back to mexico with no transition process so they were essentially homeless.",
">\n\nWow. That is incredibly evil.",
">\n\nThe GOP are the Nazis come again. Time is a flat circle and most of the circle is fascism",
">\n\nNearly 75 percent is better than I expected, and they're still working. One small cause for optimism.",
">\n\nI wouldn't call it a small cause. This is pretty massive, actually following through with fixing this disgusting miscarriage of justice. I remember reading about this stuff happening and thinking that it would have to be a priority for a new administration. Glad it's being handled.",
">\n\nI remember reading this and thinking ‘holy fucking shit’, and my view on USA has not been the same since.\nThe fact Trump still got 70+ million votes after mandating/ordering this policy is insane.",
">\n\nTrump voters tend to be low information. If they even heard about this, they heard someone on Fox/Newsmax/twitter defending it or saying it was fantastic while distorting the truth about it.",
">\n\nI’d like to think they were ignorant, but somehow it all adds up. I can’t let it go.",
">\n\nNot enough, but it’s a start.",
">\n\nCrimes against humanity.",
">\n\nJesus Christ Trump was a disaster, we're just now returning the kids to their parents though?!? The damage we caused will never go away.",
">\n\nOver 2000 were returned during the Trump administration so these are part of the harder to find parents.",
">\n\nSomething tells me this will not be on many news stations tonight.",
">\n\nFinally. This is why I voted in 2020",
">\n\nI will be enraged until the headline reads ALL!",
">\n\nUnfortunately, that might never happen given that the Trump administration managed to lose track of a bunch of them. I wish I was making that up.",
">\n\nHow about the DOJ criminally prosecute the architects and others who had a hand in this heinous crime?",
">\n\n\nAccording to figures released by the Department of Homeland Security, 3,881 children were separated from their families from 2017 to 2021. About 74% of those have been reunited with their families: 2,176 before the task force was created and 689 afterward.\nBut that still leaves nearly 1,000 children. Of those, 148 are in the reunification process. The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children.\n\nUgh, close but not close enough to fixing this mistake.",
">\n\nRemember when the Trump administration claimed that it was impossible to reunite the families?",
">\n\nWhy do we always have to clean up after Republicans? Getting tiresome.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that because the separation policy was specifically designed to deter certain kinds of people from seeking asylum, these kidnappings qualify as a crime against humanity under international law.",
">\n\nA whole bunch of them were trafficked to the upper Midwest to work the overnight shift on meat packing plant floors. It was only uncovered when one of their middle school teachers called CPS because these kids were coming in with severe chemical burns on their hands and arms. And, yes - after working the overnight shift cleaning a meat processing plant floor, these kids were going to school all day. The youngest was 12.",
">\n\nOh no. Just appalling",
">\n\nBecause it’s the right thing to do. Well done. Still going to be a long road toward healing for those poor kids.",
">\n\nI'm still stunned nobody has gone to jail for this and that the US public did not draw the line at this. It is sickening.",
">\n\nWe don’t get credit for fixing our own fuckup",
">\n\nIt is SHAMEFUL how these people were treated.",
">\n\nThat is wonderful news. Trump and his administration were so evil and cruel. I can't imagine how anyone could be so heartless.",
">\n\nHow many of these kids were molested by Trump supporters? Not zero.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to think if Trump was still POTUS, these (and likely many more) kids would still be lost.",
">\n\nNot enough is made over the evil that Trump and Stephen Miller committed during this fiasco. \nObjectively horrific, vile men.",
">\n\nNever forget there was one boy who died in his own vomit for hours before someone checked up on him. My blood still seethes thinking about it.\nHis name was Carlos Gregorio Hernandez Vasquez, he was 16 from Guatemala.",
">\n\nI'm very happy to read this. That said, the fact that this ever happened (and I don't care who it happens under) is disgusting and needs to be completely stopped from happening again.",
">\n\nThis should be much bigger news",
">\n\nHow many years were these kids without their parents in a government camp?",
">\n\nClose to four years.",
">\n\nOh yea I forgot he did this, the absolute sicko",
">\n\nThis is real oppressive fascist shit, my dear Americans. Except those who should hear this either won't read this or don't have a problem with it...",
">\n\nThis probably puts SStephen Miller in the deepest of funks.",
">\n\nGenuinely good news and a step towards righting an intentionally monstrous act.",
">\n\nhow many more are there? how many were raped? how many died?",
">\n\nIt's good to see the nation moving closer to its founding principles.",
">\n\nIf this is true, it’s the only news I heard today that I give a single fuck about. Wow. YES. Keep going. 100% reunification.",
">\n\nThere are still missing children.",
">\n\nTrAnS pEoPlE aRe GrOoMiNg OuR cHiLdReN. No, there not, and your outrage would be more effective if it targeted the POS you voted for.",
">\n\nTrump reign of terror was so barbaric.",
">\n\nThing is. .....Republicans are probably unhappy about this.",
">\n\nThis definitely put a smile on my face! :)",
">\n\nUS reunites nearly 700 kids taken from parents under ~~Trump~~ the republicans.",
">\n\nSomehow trump will take credit for this. He'll say something like how much better he made those parents appreciate their children and the children their parents. Ugh.",
">\n\nbold of you to assume he'll pay any attention at all to them.",
">\n\nHow I fucking wish \"Kids in cages\" never became the misleading rallying cry against Trump when kidnapped children was the more accurate description of what the administration was doing that needed to be stopped immediately.\nHow many times have you seen some galaxy brain talk about how \"Oh nobody says 'kids in cages' anymore now that it's ok Biden is doing it!\" Yeah it was a stupid and inaccurate criticism to begin with, because any kind of policy of detaining people caught trying to cross the border illegally will fit the \"kids in cages\" meme. \nThe entire reason people got mad at Trump beyond the border wall nonsense was because he specifically ordered a family separation policy that was designed to function as a cruel deterrent to immigration. The Obama administration was forced to adopt a family separation policy because courts ruled that minors could not be detained with adults when detained by ICE, but the Trump administration embraced this policy and added on kidnapping and forced separation across the country which resembled human trafficking more than any kind of immigration policy.\nAnd yeah, Biden is reuniting people while still maintaining a policy of not letting anyone cross the border anywhere at any time for any reason. We can talk about the ethics of detaining people caught trying to cross a national border illegally, and we should. But its an entirely separate discussion from whether one should steal their kids and ship them across the country and throw away the records of where they went.",
">\n\nAnother horrifying legacy of the US.",
">\n\nStephen Miller needs to be permanently attached to this heartless decision.",
">\n\nThe damage has been done. It's literally the least we can do is give them their children back.. I can't even believe that sentence needed to be said. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nFinally, someone thought of the children",
">\n\nYet another crime that orange gasbag will never be punished for…",
">\n\nThis chapter of Trump's presidency was truly mask off evil from the party that professes that they are the party of morals and family values. Before this people could argue that they could be afforded the benefit of the doubt. I kind of knew that Republicans were trolls and bad faith actors but then after this I knew that they really have no bottom line with how low they are willing to go. Truly evil what they did to those desperate families and kids when it would have been the easiest thing in the world to just not.",
">\n\nThis is not the same war crime Russia is doing in the Ukraine. It's a completely different war crime.",
">\n\nIt's sad and despicable that this is even necessary.",
">\n\nThis post has about 670 comments. Imagine if every single one of them was a family reunion. Heartbreaking cruelty from the last administration.",
">\n\nThe Trimp administration did a lot terrible things and had plenty of awful, harmful policies. But this is one of those times when it crossed the line into literal evil.",
">\n\nI figured this was happening in the background but damn it's heartbreaking that it's taking this long because of how thoroughly Trump fucked up any semblance of process for the DHS\nLike don't get me wrong, anyone who works for ICE is and always has been a disgusting pig, but they used to be disgusting pigs bound by similar levels of US bureaucracy as the rest of the government",
">\n\nThis was a very good thing to do and the media isn’t talking about it.",
">\n\nThis needs to be bigger news",
">\n\nWhat the hell AP, it was the US under Trump too. Maybe a better headline might have been \"Biden admin reunites nearly 700...\"",
">\n\nOur bad, we did teach the kid to walk and talk, she mostly knows to say “put your hands through the bars” but still.",
">\n\nThis is news I've been waiting 6 years for.",
">\n\nWas Eric one of them?",
">\n\nI will look for you, I will find you and I will reunite you",
">\n\nLike the motherfucking handmaids tale or some shit",
">\n\nIt's nice for the country to be taking a step back towards its ideals.",
">\n\nWhy the fuck is this not plastered all over the news? This was an international outrage for years and now it’s a tiny news story thrown in on a Friday? Whomever is in charge of the WH Press Office should be ashamed.",
">\n\nNot sure what the White House Press Office could do here if outlets simply don't bother pushing the story.",
">\n\nI want to know how many are still separated.\nEverything else is not good enough.",
">\n\nYou will need to do a slight bit of math when reading the article to get the exact number but it as about a thousand remaining to be united.",
">\n\nI feel for these kids (and their parents). Many of them have been sexually assaulted because no one was there to protect them.",
">\n\nGee, Trump reminds me of Hitler for some reason. Does anyone else see a similarity? One redeeming factor is that we all know how Hitler ended up.",
">\n\nIt is a great labor to undo great evils. \nGlad it's being done.",
">\n\nHow many in total were separated? 700 is great, but if there are still 1,000s more this should also be an equal amount of new coverage.",
">\n\nThe exact counts are in the article if you want them.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if the articles were meant to be read.",
">\n\nIt’s a good start",
">\n\nIs trump a Russian spy?\nA global traitor",
">\n\nWhen will the real criminals be put in jail?",
">\n\nvery nice to see this happen and hopefully never happens again.",
">\n\nI pray the remaining children are with US family members. This was an impeachable criminal act by Trump",
">\n\nThis was by far the most evil thing his administration did.",
">\n\nNow seperate Trump from his family.",
">\n\nI mean, damage done. If I was fleeing my home in terror from economic disaster, and the place I ran to stole my fucking kid from me, and I didn’t get them back for three years?…. I mean… that dude is a terrorist now. What is left in his life except to punish this country?",
">\n\nLock him up",
">\n\nSome good news",
">\n\nThis is not enough.",
">\n\nI was kidnapped and separated from one of my parents for a week when I was young. To be separated for such a long time… The shit is going to haunt those kids for the rest of their lives and they will likely hate those who put them through this. I know this firsthand just based how lost I felt in my experience.",
">\n\nSome good news.",
">\n\nOh, well that's good news.",
">\n\nBut I was told in 2016 that Democrats were the same as Republicans.",
">\n\nI know the mods have that thing about being courteous to others blah blah blah, but fuck trump...",
">\n\nYes, but there are still an estimated 1,000 more that they can’t even find yet. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nThe headline shouldn't exist but half the country literally voted for this to happen. It's insane. Ashamed to be an American.",
">\n\nAfter the last child is reunited with family, Melania's \"I don't really care do you\" jacket will be displayed in the Smithsonian.",
">\n\n*Biden administration reunites 700 kids taken from parents under trump",
">\n\nOnly 49,300 to go.",
">\n\nThe Trump administration was monstrous. If there is such a thing as Karma this country has a lot to pay for…",
">\n\nI hope they use this to finally lock up Trump and his goons. This is disgusting and a stain on the US.",
">\n\nThe right thing to do.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5"
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"The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children. In 30 years from now we will be seeing documentaries about children who suffered permanent psychological damage at the hands of Trumps administration. People will be shocked to learn that the U.S. government focible took these peoples children and intentionally separated them to be cruel.",
">\n\nThe people who supported it will pretend they never knew anything about it and act shocked and disgusted.",
">\n\nThey already are claiming this did not happen or Obama did it or some other nonsense. Let me clear: Trump instituted a policy to forcibly separate children (including infants) from their legal asylum-seekng parents at the border. He did this to be cruel and scare people from coming. His minions then forgot to keep records of who the kids were.",
">\n\nI'd only argue with \"forgot.\" They intentionally didn't keep records so as to make it as difficult as possible to reunite these families. The cruelty was the point. In fact, they outright declared that they were doing this to try to dissuade people from coming to America. \"Try to seek asylum in America and we'll separate you from your kids who you'll never see again!\"",
">\n\n\"The laws are the laws\" = dead giveaway for a fascist. The law is there to serve the people. If it's not serving them, it should be changed.",
">\n\nWhat really gives away the game is politicians supporting and pushing through laws that do not have majority public support - anti-marijuana and abortion come to mind. Also the use of propaganda to try to affect levels of support for certain things.",
">\n\nA piece of legislation is almost always guaranteed to fail if it polls extremely popular with Americans on all sides. It's really sad...",
">\n\nYep, like “80% of Americans support this” and they’re uh… “oh but some discredited propaganda bullshit”. Really gives away who they are truly working for.",
">\n\nNo, they'll have their \"experts\" testify that they're correct. Then you find out the \"expert\" talking about MJ legalization is a LEO and the \"expert\" talking about abortion is a religious leader.",
">\n\nThe people who did this belong on trail for crimes against humanity at the Hague.\nActual consequences? Fuckin' crickets as usual.",
">\n\nReminder that under Bush the US granted itself permission to invade The Hague If an American citizen should ever be tried there.",
">\n\nWe should send Bush to be tried there.",
">\n\nTrump and his henchmen should be charged for these crimes. Of all of Trump's crimes, I think the concentration camps for immigrants and separating immigrants from their children were among the worst. We have to punish them or this will happen again next time they have the presidency.",
">\n\nAmerica doesn't punish Republican crimes.\n\nSource: Jan 6th",
">\n\nThe list of sources is very long.",
">\n\nIt starts at least with the Watergate. GWB never answered to war crimes or to lying to start a war. And Trump pardon the only person charged in the Valery Plane affair.",
">\n\nDidn't Nixon interfere with the peace process in Vietnam, extending the war so his opponent wouldn't get a win right before the election?",
">\n\nYep.",
">\n\nStephen Miller should be in a 6 x 9",
">\n\nAre there any cells smaller than that for that pea brained asshat?",
">\n\nThere’s a box",
">\n\nIf it fits it sits",
">\n\nThis program of separating parents from their children without documentation is going to be remembered in the same way we talk about the Syphilis Study at Tuskegee. Except that was the 1930s.\nOne of these days some of those kids are going to take their pound of flesh out of the United States either legally or violently, and they'll have right on their side.",
">\n\nnah, the fascists will have rewritten history in the US by then. Our kids will never learn about any of it unless we move.",
">\n\nPresident Ron Desantis III will remove it from the national curriculum.",
">\n\nProbably in a governor position he would still have that power",
">\n\nNever forget this was a crime against humanity. Conservatives supported it. Even your so called “moderate conservative friends”\nIf it had been your kid they wouldn’t give a fuck.\nIn 20 years people will call it a stain on our nation. But the sociopaths who enabled it are here right now.",
">\n\nThe sociopaths who enabled it are in a very good position to seize absolute control of our country, too.",
">\n\nDon’t forget that it’s the trump supporters that empowered the sociopaths.",
">\n\nIt boggles my mind how there isn't a bigger deal made of this. They stole kids from their parents. Any time it pops into my head, I'm infuriated. In a just world, Trump and his administration would be harshly punished.",
">\n\nSeriously. It is crime against HUMANITY",
">\n\nDOJ should throw kidnapping charges onto the pile of Trump crimes.",
">\n\nKidnapped. That's called kidnapping.",
">\n\nAbduction, human trafficking, genocide.\nTake your pick.",
">\n\nThis needs to be made into a drama doc, like the recent Jeffrey Dahmer series. I guarantee it would make a compelling story, and if done right, it would reach even strong trump supporters just by virtue of it's entertainment value. \nThis whole debacle was one of the cruelest things the US has done in decades, and it was done with Glee by a mentally unstable maniac and his supporters. The sooner we see it through the lens of history and regret, the better",
">\n\nWe better hurry before the republicans ban all history.",
">\n\nThis is only happening because trump never had a plan to reunite the families.\nFor those in the back. He ripped apart families with NO INTENTION OF THEM EVER BEING REUNITED.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. In order to create a situation like this, they had to have the intent to prevent the reuniting of families.",
">\n\nIt pains me to think how great this nation could be if the government didnt have to spend time and resources fixing the things republican admins did",
">\n\nIt's such an insane cycle. Conservatives fuck shit up, Dems finally get back in and spend the entire time fixing shit, conservatives run on \"look, they didn't make anything better!\", get back in to fuck shit up. Rinse and repeat.",
">\n\nExcept Dems (if they actually focus on it) are usually only able to fix 70ish% of the budgetary and humanitarian issues that were cause by the previous administration. Then when they lose reelection we slip further backwards.",
">\n\nWhat do you mean if?",
">\n\nIf they focus on repairing damage instead of squabbling with each other (which happens a lot).",
">\n\nAs a Mexican immigrant I really appreciate this",
">\n\nI just wish we had received the same support nationwide like BLM did.",
">\n\nOutraged Republicans demand to know why they were not sold to traffickers as they planned.",
">\n\nThink of all that could have been accomplished in the same time with the same effort if we didn't need them to focus on this. Every Democratic administration is hobbled by needing to undo the evils of the Republicans before them. And it doesn't go the other way because it only takes a second to wreck something, but it takes time to do things right.",
">\n\nContrarily to what the aryicle stars, they were not crossing illegaly. They came as asylum seekers, which is legal. Many (all?) of them arrived at official points of entry. These are not people who were arrested crossing the river in the middle of the night (not that it would justify taking their kids in any way).",
">\n\nOf course the Republican subs are silent on this\nFuck trump",
">\n\ngiving them all citizenship and all of their families is the least we could do for what we've done to those kids",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nThey’ll still be traumatized for the rest of their lives. Drug addiction, depression, suicides will plague these children. If there were any justice, the architects of this policy should be charged with crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nTypical go to of Christian nationalists is to steal children.",
">\n\nI guess the conservatives are ok as long it isn't their child or children.",
">\n\nI want to remind everyone here that Trump's ICE not only separated countless children from their parents, they then \"LOST\" them. Trafficked. They trafficked them. But they called them \"lost\". Then, in an absolutely astounding act of evil and affirmation of cruelty, they released the numbers to the public: 1488 lost children.\nYes. That's right. 1488, the same number literal nazis hold sacred.\nThe depth of evil and abuse and violence the right has descended to should be SO MUCH more alarming to more people. In case you think the assertion that the children were trafficked is alarmist please remember when they caught ICE transporting children without paperwork in the dead of night or keeping children in hotels without due process then sending them back to mexico with no transition process so they were essentially homeless.",
">\n\nWow. That is incredibly evil.",
">\n\nThe GOP are the Nazis come again. Time is a flat circle and most of the circle is fascism",
">\n\nNearly 75 percent is better than I expected, and they're still working. One small cause for optimism.",
">\n\nI wouldn't call it a small cause. This is pretty massive, actually following through with fixing this disgusting miscarriage of justice. I remember reading about this stuff happening and thinking that it would have to be a priority for a new administration. Glad it's being handled.",
">\n\nI remember reading this and thinking ‘holy fucking shit’, and my view on USA has not been the same since.\nThe fact Trump still got 70+ million votes after mandating/ordering this policy is insane.",
">\n\nTrump voters tend to be low information. If they even heard about this, they heard someone on Fox/Newsmax/twitter defending it or saying it was fantastic while distorting the truth about it.",
">\n\nI’d like to think they were ignorant, but somehow it all adds up. I can’t let it go.",
">\n\nNot enough, but it’s a start.",
">\n\nCrimes against humanity.",
">\n\nJesus Christ Trump was a disaster, we're just now returning the kids to their parents though?!? The damage we caused will never go away.",
">\n\nOver 2000 were returned during the Trump administration so these are part of the harder to find parents.",
">\n\nSomething tells me this will not be on many news stations tonight.",
">\n\nFinally. This is why I voted in 2020",
">\n\nI will be enraged until the headline reads ALL!",
">\n\nUnfortunately, that might never happen given that the Trump administration managed to lose track of a bunch of them. I wish I was making that up.",
">\n\nHow about the DOJ criminally prosecute the architects and others who had a hand in this heinous crime?",
">\n\n\nAccording to figures released by the Department of Homeland Security, 3,881 children were separated from their families from 2017 to 2021. About 74% of those have been reunited with their families: 2,176 before the task force was created and 689 afterward.\nBut that still leaves nearly 1,000 children. Of those, 148 are in the reunification process. The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children.\n\nUgh, close but not close enough to fixing this mistake.",
">\n\nRemember when the Trump administration claimed that it was impossible to reunite the families?",
">\n\nWhy do we always have to clean up after Republicans? Getting tiresome.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that because the separation policy was specifically designed to deter certain kinds of people from seeking asylum, these kidnappings qualify as a crime against humanity under international law.",
">\n\nA whole bunch of them were trafficked to the upper Midwest to work the overnight shift on meat packing plant floors. It was only uncovered when one of their middle school teachers called CPS because these kids were coming in with severe chemical burns on their hands and arms. And, yes - after working the overnight shift cleaning a meat processing plant floor, these kids were going to school all day. The youngest was 12.",
">\n\nOh no. Just appalling",
">\n\nBecause it’s the right thing to do. Well done. Still going to be a long road toward healing for those poor kids.",
">\n\nI'm still stunned nobody has gone to jail for this and that the US public did not draw the line at this. It is sickening.",
">\n\nWe don’t get credit for fixing our own fuckup",
">\n\nIt is SHAMEFUL how these people were treated.",
">\n\nThat is wonderful news. Trump and his administration were so evil and cruel. I can't imagine how anyone could be so heartless.",
">\n\nHow many of these kids were molested by Trump supporters? Not zero.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to think if Trump was still POTUS, these (and likely many more) kids would still be lost.",
">\n\nNot enough is made over the evil that Trump and Stephen Miller committed during this fiasco. \nObjectively horrific, vile men.",
">\n\nNever forget there was one boy who died in his own vomit for hours before someone checked up on him. My blood still seethes thinking about it.\nHis name was Carlos Gregorio Hernandez Vasquez, he was 16 from Guatemala.",
">\n\nI'm very happy to read this. That said, the fact that this ever happened (and I don't care who it happens under) is disgusting and needs to be completely stopped from happening again.",
">\n\nThis should be much bigger news",
">\n\nHow many years were these kids without their parents in a government camp?",
">\n\nClose to four years.",
">\n\nOh yea I forgot he did this, the absolute sicko",
">\n\nThis is real oppressive fascist shit, my dear Americans. Except those who should hear this either won't read this or don't have a problem with it...",
">\n\nThis probably puts SStephen Miller in the deepest of funks.",
">\n\nGenuinely good news and a step towards righting an intentionally monstrous act.",
">\n\nhow many more are there? how many were raped? how many died?",
">\n\nIt's good to see the nation moving closer to its founding principles.",
">\n\nIf this is true, it’s the only news I heard today that I give a single fuck about. Wow. YES. Keep going. 100% reunification.",
">\n\nThere are still missing children.",
">\n\nTrAnS pEoPlE aRe GrOoMiNg OuR cHiLdReN. No, there not, and your outrage would be more effective if it targeted the POS you voted for.",
">\n\nTrump reign of terror was so barbaric.",
">\n\nThing is. .....Republicans are probably unhappy about this.",
">\n\nThis definitely put a smile on my face! :)",
">\n\nUS reunites nearly 700 kids taken from parents under ~~Trump~~ the republicans.",
">\n\nSomehow trump will take credit for this. He'll say something like how much better he made those parents appreciate their children and the children their parents. Ugh.",
">\n\nbold of you to assume he'll pay any attention at all to them.",
">\n\nHow I fucking wish \"Kids in cages\" never became the misleading rallying cry against Trump when kidnapped children was the more accurate description of what the administration was doing that needed to be stopped immediately.\nHow many times have you seen some galaxy brain talk about how \"Oh nobody says 'kids in cages' anymore now that it's ok Biden is doing it!\" Yeah it was a stupid and inaccurate criticism to begin with, because any kind of policy of detaining people caught trying to cross the border illegally will fit the \"kids in cages\" meme. \nThe entire reason people got mad at Trump beyond the border wall nonsense was because he specifically ordered a family separation policy that was designed to function as a cruel deterrent to immigration. The Obama administration was forced to adopt a family separation policy because courts ruled that minors could not be detained with adults when detained by ICE, but the Trump administration embraced this policy and added on kidnapping and forced separation across the country which resembled human trafficking more than any kind of immigration policy.\nAnd yeah, Biden is reuniting people while still maintaining a policy of not letting anyone cross the border anywhere at any time for any reason. We can talk about the ethics of detaining people caught trying to cross a national border illegally, and we should. But its an entirely separate discussion from whether one should steal their kids and ship them across the country and throw away the records of where they went.",
">\n\nAnother horrifying legacy of the US.",
">\n\nStephen Miller needs to be permanently attached to this heartless decision.",
">\n\nThe damage has been done. It's literally the least we can do is give them their children back.. I can't even believe that sentence needed to be said. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nFinally, someone thought of the children",
">\n\nYet another crime that orange gasbag will never be punished for…",
">\n\nThis chapter of Trump's presidency was truly mask off evil from the party that professes that they are the party of morals and family values. Before this people could argue that they could be afforded the benefit of the doubt. I kind of knew that Republicans were trolls and bad faith actors but then after this I knew that they really have no bottom line with how low they are willing to go. Truly evil what they did to those desperate families and kids when it would have been the easiest thing in the world to just not.",
">\n\nThis is not the same war crime Russia is doing in the Ukraine. It's a completely different war crime.",
">\n\nIt's sad and despicable that this is even necessary.",
">\n\nThis post has about 670 comments. Imagine if every single one of them was a family reunion. Heartbreaking cruelty from the last administration.",
">\n\nThe Trimp administration did a lot terrible things and had plenty of awful, harmful policies. But this is one of those times when it crossed the line into literal evil.",
">\n\nI figured this was happening in the background but damn it's heartbreaking that it's taking this long because of how thoroughly Trump fucked up any semblance of process for the DHS\nLike don't get me wrong, anyone who works for ICE is and always has been a disgusting pig, but they used to be disgusting pigs bound by similar levels of US bureaucracy as the rest of the government",
">\n\nThis was a very good thing to do and the media isn’t talking about it.",
">\n\nThis needs to be bigger news",
">\n\nWhat the hell AP, it was the US under Trump too. Maybe a better headline might have been \"Biden admin reunites nearly 700...\"",
">\n\nOur bad, we did teach the kid to walk and talk, she mostly knows to say “put your hands through the bars” but still.",
">\n\nThis is news I've been waiting 6 years for.",
">\n\nWas Eric one of them?",
">\n\nI will look for you, I will find you and I will reunite you",
">\n\nLike the motherfucking handmaids tale or some shit",
">\n\nIt's nice for the country to be taking a step back towards its ideals.",
">\n\nWhy the fuck is this not plastered all over the news? This was an international outrage for years and now it’s a tiny news story thrown in on a Friday? Whomever is in charge of the WH Press Office should be ashamed.",
">\n\nNot sure what the White House Press Office could do here if outlets simply don't bother pushing the story.",
">\n\nI want to know how many are still separated.\nEverything else is not good enough.",
">\n\nYou will need to do a slight bit of math when reading the article to get the exact number but it as about a thousand remaining to be united.",
">\n\nI feel for these kids (and their parents). Many of them have been sexually assaulted because no one was there to protect them.",
">\n\nGee, Trump reminds me of Hitler for some reason. Does anyone else see a similarity? One redeeming factor is that we all know how Hitler ended up.",
">\n\nIt is a great labor to undo great evils. \nGlad it's being done.",
">\n\nHow many in total were separated? 700 is great, but if there are still 1,000s more this should also be an equal amount of new coverage.",
">\n\nThe exact counts are in the article if you want them.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if the articles were meant to be read.",
">\n\nIt’s a good start",
">\n\nIs trump a Russian spy?\nA global traitor",
">\n\nWhen will the real criminals be put in jail?",
">\n\nvery nice to see this happen and hopefully never happens again.",
">\n\nI pray the remaining children are with US family members. This was an impeachable criminal act by Trump",
">\n\nThis was by far the most evil thing his administration did.",
">\n\nNow seperate Trump from his family.",
">\n\nI mean, damage done. If I was fleeing my home in terror from economic disaster, and the place I ran to stole my fucking kid from me, and I didn’t get them back for three years?…. I mean… that dude is a terrorist now. What is left in his life except to punish this country?",
">\n\nLock him up",
">\n\nSome good news",
">\n\nThis is not enough.",
">\n\nI was kidnapped and separated from one of my parents for a week when I was young. To be separated for such a long time… The shit is going to haunt those kids for the rest of their lives and they will likely hate those who put them through this. I know this firsthand just based how lost I felt in my experience.",
">\n\nSome good news.",
">\n\nOh, well that's good news.",
">\n\nBut I was told in 2016 that Democrats were the same as Republicans.",
">\n\nI know the mods have that thing about being courteous to others blah blah blah, but fuck trump...",
">\n\nYes, but there are still an estimated 1,000 more that they can’t even find yet. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nThe headline shouldn't exist but half the country literally voted for this to happen. It's insane. Ashamed to be an American.",
">\n\nAfter the last child is reunited with family, Melania's \"I don't really care do you\" jacket will be displayed in the Smithsonian.",
">\n\n*Biden administration reunites 700 kids taken from parents under trump",
">\n\nOnly 49,300 to go.",
">\n\nThe Trump administration was monstrous. If there is such a thing as Karma this country has a lot to pay for…",
">\n\nI hope they use this to finally lock up Trump and his goons. This is disgusting and a stain on the US.",
">\n\nThe right thing to do.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\n/r/Orphancrushingmachine"
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"The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children. In 30 years from now we will be seeing documentaries about children who suffered permanent psychological damage at the hands of Trumps administration. People will be shocked to learn that the U.S. government focible took these peoples children and intentionally separated them to be cruel.",
">\n\nThe people who supported it will pretend they never knew anything about it and act shocked and disgusted.",
">\n\nThey already are claiming this did not happen or Obama did it or some other nonsense. Let me clear: Trump instituted a policy to forcibly separate children (including infants) from their legal asylum-seekng parents at the border. He did this to be cruel and scare people from coming. His minions then forgot to keep records of who the kids were.",
">\n\nI'd only argue with \"forgot.\" They intentionally didn't keep records so as to make it as difficult as possible to reunite these families. The cruelty was the point. In fact, they outright declared that they were doing this to try to dissuade people from coming to America. \"Try to seek asylum in America and we'll separate you from your kids who you'll never see again!\"",
">\n\n\"The laws are the laws\" = dead giveaway for a fascist. The law is there to serve the people. If it's not serving them, it should be changed.",
">\n\nWhat really gives away the game is politicians supporting and pushing through laws that do not have majority public support - anti-marijuana and abortion come to mind. Also the use of propaganda to try to affect levels of support for certain things.",
">\n\nA piece of legislation is almost always guaranteed to fail if it polls extremely popular with Americans on all sides. It's really sad...",
">\n\nYep, like “80% of Americans support this” and they’re uh… “oh but some discredited propaganda bullshit”. Really gives away who they are truly working for.",
">\n\nNo, they'll have their \"experts\" testify that they're correct. Then you find out the \"expert\" talking about MJ legalization is a LEO and the \"expert\" talking about abortion is a religious leader.",
">\n\nThe people who did this belong on trail for crimes against humanity at the Hague.\nActual consequences? Fuckin' crickets as usual.",
">\n\nReminder that under Bush the US granted itself permission to invade The Hague If an American citizen should ever be tried there.",
">\n\nWe should send Bush to be tried there.",
">\n\nTrump and his henchmen should be charged for these crimes. Of all of Trump's crimes, I think the concentration camps for immigrants and separating immigrants from their children were among the worst. We have to punish them or this will happen again next time they have the presidency.",
">\n\nAmerica doesn't punish Republican crimes.\n\nSource: Jan 6th",
">\n\nThe list of sources is very long.",
">\n\nIt starts at least with the Watergate. GWB never answered to war crimes or to lying to start a war. And Trump pardon the only person charged in the Valery Plane affair.",
">\n\nDidn't Nixon interfere with the peace process in Vietnam, extending the war so his opponent wouldn't get a win right before the election?",
">\n\nYep.",
">\n\nStephen Miller should be in a 6 x 9",
">\n\nAre there any cells smaller than that for that pea brained asshat?",
">\n\nThere’s a box",
">\n\nIf it fits it sits",
">\n\nThis program of separating parents from their children without documentation is going to be remembered in the same way we talk about the Syphilis Study at Tuskegee. Except that was the 1930s.\nOne of these days some of those kids are going to take their pound of flesh out of the United States either legally or violently, and they'll have right on their side.",
">\n\nnah, the fascists will have rewritten history in the US by then. Our kids will never learn about any of it unless we move.",
">\n\nPresident Ron Desantis III will remove it from the national curriculum.",
">\n\nProbably in a governor position he would still have that power",
">\n\nNever forget this was a crime against humanity. Conservatives supported it. Even your so called “moderate conservative friends”\nIf it had been your kid they wouldn’t give a fuck.\nIn 20 years people will call it a stain on our nation. But the sociopaths who enabled it are here right now.",
">\n\nThe sociopaths who enabled it are in a very good position to seize absolute control of our country, too.",
">\n\nDon’t forget that it’s the trump supporters that empowered the sociopaths.",
">\n\nIt boggles my mind how there isn't a bigger deal made of this. They stole kids from their parents. Any time it pops into my head, I'm infuriated. In a just world, Trump and his administration would be harshly punished.",
">\n\nSeriously. It is crime against HUMANITY",
">\n\nDOJ should throw kidnapping charges onto the pile of Trump crimes.",
">\n\nKidnapped. That's called kidnapping.",
">\n\nAbduction, human trafficking, genocide.\nTake your pick.",
">\n\nThis needs to be made into a drama doc, like the recent Jeffrey Dahmer series. I guarantee it would make a compelling story, and if done right, it would reach even strong trump supporters just by virtue of it's entertainment value. \nThis whole debacle was one of the cruelest things the US has done in decades, and it was done with Glee by a mentally unstable maniac and his supporters. The sooner we see it through the lens of history and regret, the better",
">\n\nWe better hurry before the republicans ban all history.",
">\n\nThis is only happening because trump never had a plan to reunite the families.\nFor those in the back. He ripped apart families with NO INTENTION OF THEM EVER BEING REUNITED.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. In order to create a situation like this, they had to have the intent to prevent the reuniting of families.",
">\n\nIt pains me to think how great this nation could be if the government didnt have to spend time and resources fixing the things republican admins did",
">\n\nIt's such an insane cycle. Conservatives fuck shit up, Dems finally get back in and spend the entire time fixing shit, conservatives run on \"look, they didn't make anything better!\", get back in to fuck shit up. Rinse and repeat.",
">\n\nExcept Dems (if they actually focus on it) are usually only able to fix 70ish% of the budgetary and humanitarian issues that were cause by the previous administration. Then when they lose reelection we slip further backwards.",
">\n\nWhat do you mean if?",
">\n\nIf they focus on repairing damage instead of squabbling with each other (which happens a lot).",
">\n\nAs a Mexican immigrant I really appreciate this",
">\n\nI just wish we had received the same support nationwide like BLM did.",
">\n\nOutraged Republicans demand to know why they were not sold to traffickers as they planned.",
">\n\nThink of all that could have been accomplished in the same time with the same effort if we didn't need them to focus on this. Every Democratic administration is hobbled by needing to undo the evils of the Republicans before them. And it doesn't go the other way because it only takes a second to wreck something, but it takes time to do things right.",
">\n\nContrarily to what the aryicle stars, they were not crossing illegaly. They came as asylum seekers, which is legal. Many (all?) of them arrived at official points of entry. These are not people who were arrested crossing the river in the middle of the night (not that it would justify taking their kids in any way).",
">\n\nOf course the Republican subs are silent on this\nFuck trump",
">\n\ngiving them all citizenship and all of their families is the least we could do for what we've done to those kids",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nThey’ll still be traumatized for the rest of their lives. Drug addiction, depression, suicides will plague these children. If there were any justice, the architects of this policy should be charged with crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nTypical go to of Christian nationalists is to steal children.",
">\n\nI guess the conservatives are ok as long it isn't their child or children.",
">\n\nI want to remind everyone here that Trump's ICE not only separated countless children from their parents, they then \"LOST\" them. Trafficked. They trafficked them. But they called them \"lost\". Then, in an absolutely astounding act of evil and affirmation of cruelty, they released the numbers to the public: 1488 lost children.\nYes. That's right. 1488, the same number literal nazis hold sacred.\nThe depth of evil and abuse and violence the right has descended to should be SO MUCH more alarming to more people. In case you think the assertion that the children were trafficked is alarmist please remember when they caught ICE transporting children without paperwork in the dead of night or keeping children in hotels without due process then sending them back to mexico with no transition process so they were essentially homeless.",
">\n\nWow. That is incredibly evil.",
">\n\nThe GOP are the Nazis come again. Time is a flat circle and most of the circle is fascism",
">\n\nNearly 75 percent is better than I expected, and they're still working. One small cause for optimism.",
">\n\nI wouldn't call it a small cause. This is pretty massive, actually following through with fixing this disgusting miscarriage of justice. I remember reading about this stuff happening and thinking that it would have to be a priority for a new administration. Glad it's being handled.",
">\n\nI remember reading this and thinking ‘holy fucking shit’, and my view on USA has not been the same since.\nThe fact Trump still got 70+ million votes after mandating/ordering this policy is insane.",
">\n\nTrump voters tend to be low information. If they even heard about this, they heard someone on Fox/Newsmax/twitter defending it or saying it was fantastic while distorting the truth about it.",
">\n\nI’d like to think they were ignorant, but somehow it all adds up. I can’t let it go.",
">\n\nNot enough, but it’s a start.",
">\n\nCrimes against humanity.",
">\n\nJesus Christ Trump was a disaster, we're just now returning the kids to their parents though?!? The damage we caused will never go away.",
">\n\nOver 2000 were returned during the Trump administration so these are part of the harder to find parents.",
">\n\nSomething tells me this will not be on many news stations tonight.",
">\n\nFinally. This is why I voted in 2020",
">\n\nI will be enraged until the headline reads ALL!",
">\n\nUnfortunately, that might never happen given that the Trump administration managed to lose track of a bunch of them. I wish I was making that up.",
">\n\nHow about the DOJ criminally prosecute the architects and others who had a hand in this heinous crime?",
">\n\n\nAccording to figures released by the Department of Homeland Security, 3,881 children were separated from their families from 2017 to 2021. About 74% of those have been reunited with their families: 2,176 before the task force was created and 689 afterward.\nBut that still leaves nearly 1,000 children. Of those, 148 are in the reunification process. The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children.\n\nUgh, close but not close enough to fixing this mistake.",
">\n\nRemember when the Trump administration claimed that it was impossible to reunite the families?",
">\n\nWhy do we always have to clean up after Republicans? Getting tiresome.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that because the separation policy was specifically designed to deter certain kinds of people from seeking asylum, these kidnappings qualify as a crime against humanity under international law.",
">\n\nA whole bunch of them were trafficked to the upper Midwest to work the overnight shift on meat packing plant floors. It was only uncovered when one of their middle school teachers called CPS because these kids were coming in with severe chemical burns on their hands and arms. And, yes - after working the overnight shift cleaning a meat processing plant floor, these kids were going to school all day. The youngest was 12.",
">\n\nOh no. Just appalling",
">\n\nBecause it’s the right thing to do. Well done. Still going to be a long road toward healing for those poor kids.",
">\n\nI'm still stunned nobody has gone to jail for this and that the US public did not draw the line at this. It is sickening.",
">\n\nWe don’t get credit for fixing our own fuckup",
">\n\nIt is SHAMEFUL how these people were treated.",
">\n\nThat is wonderful news. Trump and his administration were so evil and cruel. I can't imagine how anyone could be so heartless.",
">\n\nHow many of these kids were molested by Trump supporters? Not zero.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to think if Trump was still POTUS, these (and likely many more) kids would still be lost.",
">\n\nNot enough is made over the evil that Trump and Stephen Miller committed during this fiasco. \nObjectively horrific, vile men.",
">\n\nNever forget there was one boy who died in his own vomit for hours before someone checked up on him. My blood still seethes thinking about it.\nHis name was Carlos Gregorio Hernandez Vasquez, he was 16 from Guatemala.",
">\n\nI'm very happy to read this. That said, the fact that this ever happened (and I don't care who it happens under) is disgusting and needs to be completely stopped from happening again.",
">\n\nThis should be much bigger news",
">\n\nHow many years were these kids without their parents in a government camp?",
">\n\nClose to four years.",
">\n\nOh yea I forgot he did this, the absolute sicko",
">\n\nThis is real oppressive fascist shit, my dear Americans. Except those who should hear this either won't read this or don't have a problem with it...",
">\n\nThis probably puts SStephen Miller in the deepest of funks.",
">\n\nGenuinely good news and a step towards righting an intentionally monstrous act.",
">\n\nhow many more are there? how many were raped? how many died?",
">\n\nIt's good to see the nation moving closer to its founding principles.",
">\n\nIf this is true, it’s the only news I heard today that I give a single fuck about. Wow. YES. Keep going. 100% reunification.",
">\n\nThere are still missing children.",
">\n\nTrAnS pEoPlE aRe GrOoMiNg OuR cHiLdReN. No, there not, and your outrage would be more effective if it targeted the POS you voted for.",
">\n\nTrump reign of terror was so barbaric.",
">\n\nThing is. .....Republicans are probably unhappy about this.",
">\n\nThis definitely put a smile on my face! :)",
">\n\nUS reunites nearly 700 kids taken from parents under ~~Trump~~ the republicans.",
">\n\nSomehow trump will take credit for this. He'll say something like how much better he made those parents appreciate their children and the children their parents. Ugh.",
">\n\nbold of you to assume he'll pay any attention at all to them.",
">\n\nHow I fucking wish \"Kids in cages\" never became the misleading rallying cry against Trump when kidnapped children was the more accurate description of what the administration was doing that needed to be stopped immediately.\nHow many times have you seen some galaxy brain talk about how \"Oh nobody says 'kids in cages' anymore now that it's ok Biden is doing it!\" Yeah it was a stupid and inaccurate criticism to begin with, because any kind of policy of detaining people caught trying to cross the border illegally will fit the \"kids in cages\" meme. \nThe entire reason people got mad at Trump beyond the border wall nonsense was because he specifically ordered a family separation policy that was designed to function as a cruel deterrent to immigration. The Obama administration was forced to adopt a family separation policy because courts ruled that minors could not be detained with adults when detained by ICE, but the Trump administration embraced this policy and added on kidnapping and forced separation across the country which resembled human trafficking more than any kind of immigration policy.\nAnd yeah, Biden is reuniting people while still maintaining a policy of not letting anyone cross the border anywhere at any time for any reason. We can talk about the ethics of detaining people caught trying to cross a national border illegally, and we should. But its an entirely separate discussion from whether one should steal their kids and ship them across the country and throw away the records of where they went.",
">\n\nAnother horrifying legacy of the US.",
">\n\nStephen Miller needs to be permanently attached to this heartless decision.",
">\n\nThe damage has been done. It's literally the least we can do is give them their children back.. I can't even believe that sentence needed to be said. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nFinally, someone thought of the children",
">\n\nYet another crime that orange gasbag will never be punished for…",
">\n\nThis chapter of Trump's presidency was truly mask off evil from the party that professes that they are the party of morals and family values. Before this people could argue that they could be afforded the benefit of the doubt. I kind of knew that Republicans were trolls and bad faith actors but then after this I knew that they really have no bottom line with how low they are willing to go. Truly evil what they did to those desperate families and kids when it would have been the easiest thing in the world to just not.",
">\n\nThis is not the same war crime Russia is doing in the Ukraine. It's a completely different war crime.",
">\n\nIt's sad and despicable that this is even necessary.",
">\n\nThis post has about 670 comments. Imagine if every single one of them was a family reunion. Heartbreaking cruelty from the last administration.",
">\n\nThe Trimp administration did a lot terrible things and had plenty of awful, harmful policies. But this is one of those times when it crossed the line into literal evil.",
">\n\nI figured this was happening in the background but damn it's heartbreaking that it's taking this long because of how thoroughly Trump fucked up any semblance of process for the DHS\nLike don't get me wrong, anyone who works for ICE is and always has been a disgusting pig, but they used to be disgusting pigs bound by similar levels of US bureaucracy as the rest of the government",
">\n\nThis was a very good thing to do and the media isn’t talking about it.",
">\n\nThis needs to be bigger news",
">\n\nWhat the hell AP, it was the US under Trump too. Maybe a better headline might have been \"Biden admin reunites nearly 700...\"",
">\n\nOur bad, we did teach the kid to walk and talk, she mostly knows to say “put your hands through the bars” but still.",
">\n\nThis is news I've been waiting 6 years for.",
">\n\nWas Eric one of them?",
">\n\nI will look for you, I will find you and I will reunite you",
">\n\nLike the motherfucking handmaids tale or some shit",
">\n\nIt's nice for the country to be taking a step back towards its ideals.",
">\n\nWhy the fuck is this not plastered all over the news? This was an international outrage for years and now it’s a tiny news story thrown in on a Friday? Whomever is in charge of the WH Press Office should be ashamed.",
">\n\nNot sure what the White House Press Office could do here if outlets simply don't bother pushing the story.",
">\n\nI want to know how many are still separated.\nEverything else is not good enough.",
">\n\nYou will need to do a slight bit of math when reading the article to get the exact number but it as about a thousand remaining to be united.",
">\n\nI feel for these kids (and their parents). Many of them have been sexually assaulted because no one was there to protect them.",
">\n\nGee, Trump reminds me of Hitler for some reason. Does anyone else see a similarity? One redeeming factor is that we all know how Hitler ended up.",
">\n\nIt is a great labor to undo great evils. \nGlad it's being done.",
">\n\nHow many in total were separated? 700 is great, but if there are still 1,000s more this should also be an equal amount of new coverage.",
">\n\nThe exact counts are in the article if you want them.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if the articles were meant to be read.",
">\n\nIt’s a good start",
">\n\nIs trump a Russian spy?\nA global traitor",
">\n\nWhen will the real criminals be put in jail?",
">\n\nvery nice to see this happen and hopefully never happens again.",
">\n\nI pray the remaining children are with US family members. This was an impeachable criminal act by Trump",
">\n\nThis was by far the most evil thing his administration did.",
">\n\nNow seperate Trump from his family.",
">\n\nI mean, damage done. If I was fleeing my home in terror from economic disaster, and the place I ran to stole my fucking kid from me, and I didn’t get them back for three years?…. I mean… that dude is a terrorist now. What is left in his life except to punish this country?",
">\n\nLock him up",
">\n\nSome good news",
">\n\nThis is not enough.",
">\n\nI was kidnapped and separated from one of my parents for a week when I was young. To be separated for such a long time… The shit is going to haunt those kids for the rest of their lives and they will likely hate those who put them through this. I know this firsthand just based how lost I felt in my experience.",
">\n\nSome good news.",
">\n\nOh, well that's good news.",
">\n\nBut I was told in 2016 that Democrats were the same as Republicans.",
">\n\nI know the mods have that thing about being courteous to others blah blah blah, but fuck trump...",
">\n\nYes, but there are still an estimated 1,000 more that they can’t even find yet. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nThe headline shouldn't exist but half the country literally voted for this to happen. It's insane. Ashamed to be an American.",
">\n\nAfter the last child is reunited with family, Melania's \"I don't really care do you\" jacket will be displayed in the Smithsonian.",
">\n\n*Biden administration reunites 700 kids taken from parents under trump",
">\n\nOnly 49,300 to go.",
">\n\nThe Trump administration was monstrous. If there is such a thing as Karma this country has a lot to pay for…",
">\n\nI hope they use this to finally lock up Trump and his goons. This is disgusting and a stain on the US.",
">\n\nThe right thing to do.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\n/r/Orphancrushingmachine",
">\n\nWhy are the Republicans such pieces of shit? The whole fucking Republican Party needs to be done away with permanently."
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"The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children. In 30 years from now we will be seeing documentaries about children who suffered permanent psychological damage at the hands of Trumps administration. People will be shocked to learn that the U.S. government focible took these peoples children and intentionally separated them to be cruel.",
">\n\nThe people who supported it will pretend they never knew anything about it and act shocked and disgusted.",
">\n\nThey already are claiming this did not happen or Obama did it or some other nonsense. Let me clear: Trump instituted a policy to forcibly separate children (including infants) from their legal asylum-seekng parents at the border. He did this to be cruel and scare people from coming. His minions then forgot to keep records of who the kids were.",
">\n\nI'd only argue with \"forgot.\" They intentionally didn't keep records so as to make it as difficult as possible to reunite these families. The cruelty was the point. In fact, they outright declared that they were doing this to try to dissuade people from coming to America. \"Try to seek asylum in America and we'll separate you from your kids who you'll never see again!\"",
">\n\n\"The laws are the laws\" = dead giveaway for a fascist. The law is there to serve the people. If it's not serving them, it should be changed.",
">\n\nWhat really gives away the game is politicians supporting and pushing through laws that do not have majority public support - anti-marijuana and abortion come to mind. Also the use of propaganda to try to affect levels of support for certain things.",
">\n\nA piece of legislation is almost always guaranteed to fail if it polls extremely popular with Americans on all sides. It's really sad...",
">\n\nYep, like “80% of Americans support this” and they’re uh… “oh but some discredited propaganda bullshit”. Really gives away who they are truly working for.",
">\n\nNo, they'll have their \"experts\" testify that they're correct. Then you find out the \"expert\" talking about MJ legalization is a LEO and the \"expert\" talking about abortion is a religious leader.",
">\n\nThe people who did this belong on trail for crimes against humanity at the Hague.\nActual consequences? Fuckin' crickets as usual.",
">\n\nReminder that under Bush the US granted itself permission to invade The Hague If an American citizen should ever be tried there.",
">\n\nWe should send Bush to be tried there.",
">\n\nTrump and his henchmen should be charged for these crimes. Of all of Trump's crimes, I think the concentration camps for immigrants and separating immigrants from their children were among the worst. We have to punish them or this will happen again next time they have the presidency.",
">\n\nAmerica doesn't punish Republican crimes.\n\nSource: Jan 6th",
">\n\nThe list of sources is very long.",
">\n\nIt starts at least with the Watergate. GWB never answered to war crimes or to lying to start a war. And Trump pardon the only person charged in the Valery Plane affair.",
">\n\nDidn't Nixon interfere with the peace process in Vietnam, extending the war so his opponent wouldn't get a win right before the election?",
">\n\nYep.",
">\n\nStephen Miller should be in a 6 x 9",
">\n\nAre there any cells smaller than that for that pea brained asshat?",
">\n\nThere’s a box",
">\n\nIf it fits it sits",
">\n\nThis program of separating parents from their children without documentation is going to be remembered in the same way we talk about the Syphilis Study at Tuskegee. Except that was the 1930s.\nOne of these days some of those kids are going to take their pound of flesh out of the United States either legally or violently, and they'll have right on their side.",
">\n\nnah, the fascists will have rewritten history in the US by then. Our kids will never learn about any of it unless we move.",
">\n\nPresident Ron Desantis III will remove it from the national curriculum.",
">\n\nProbably in a governor position he would still have that power",
">\n\nNever forget this was a crime against humanity. Conservatives supported it. Even your so called “moderate conservative friends”\nIf it had been your kid they wouldn’t give a fuck.\nIn 20 years people will call it a stain on our nation. But the sociopaths who enabled it are here right now.",
">\n\nThe sociopaths who enabled it are in a very good position to seize absolute control of our country, too.",
">\n\nDon’t forget that it’s the trump supporters that empowered the sociopaths.",
">\n\nIt boggles my mind how there isn't a bigger deal made of this. They stole kids from their parents. Any time it pops into my head, I'm infuriated. In a just world, Trump and his administration would be harshly punished.",
">\n\nSeriously. It is crime against HUMANITY",
">\n\nDOJ should throw kidnapping charges onto the pile of Trump crimes.",
">\n\nKidnapped. That's called kidnapping.",
">\n\nAbduction, human trafficking, genocide.\nTake your pick.",
">\n\nThis needs to be made into a drama doc, like the recent Jeffrey Dahmer series. I guarantee it would make a compelling story, and if done right, it would reach even strong trump supporters just by virtue of it's entertainment value. \nThis whole debacle was one of the cruelest things the US has done in decades, and it was done with Glee by a mentally unstable maniac and his supporters. The sooner we see it through the lens of history and regret, the better",
">\n\nWe better hurry before the republicans ban all history.",
">\n\nThis is only happening because trump never had a plan to reunite the families.\nFor those in the back. He ripped apart families with NO INTENTION OF THEM EVER BEING REUNITED.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. In order to create a situation like this, they had to have the intent to prevent the reuniting of families.",
">\n\nIt pains me to think how great this nation could be if the government didnt have to spend time and resources fixing the things republican admins did",
">\n\nIt's such an insane cycle. Conservatives fuck shit up, Dems finally get back in and spend the entire time fixing shit, conservatives run on \"look, they didn't make anything better!\", get back in to fuck shit up. Rinse and repeat.",
">\n\nExcept Dems (if they actually focus on it) are usually only able to fix 70ish% of the budgetary and humanitarian issues that were cause by the previous administration. Then when they lose reelection we slip further backwards.",
">\n\nWhat do you mean if?",
">\n\nIf they focus on repairing damage instead of squabbling with each other (which happens a lot).",
">\n\nAs a Mexican immigrant I really appreciate this",
">\n\nI just wish we had received the same support nationwide like BLM did.",
">\n\nOutraged Republicans demand to know why they were not sold to traffickers as they planned.",
">\n\nThink of all that could have been accomplished in the same time with the same effort if we didn't need them to focus on this. Every Democratic administration is hobbled by needing to undo the evils of the Republicans before them. And it doesn't go the other way because it only takes a second to wreck something, but it takes time to do things right.",
">\n\nContrarily to what the aryicle stars, they were not crossing illegaly. They came as asylum seekers, which is legal. Many (all?) of them arrived at official points of entry. These are not people who were arrested crossing the river in the middle of the night (not that it would justify taking their kids in any way).",
">\n\nOf course the Republican subs are silent on this\nFuck trump",
">\n\ngiving them all citizenship and all of their families is the least we could do for what we've done to those kids",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nThey’ll still be traumatized for the rest of their lives. Drug addiction, depression, suicides will plague these children. If there were any justice, the architects of this policy should be charged with crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nTypical go to of Christian nationalists is to steal children.",
">\n\nI guess the conservatives are ok as long it isn't their child or children.",
">\n\nI want to remind everyone here that Trump's ICE not only separated countless children from their parents, they then \"LOST\" them. Trafficked. They trafficked them. But they called them \"lost\". Then, in an absolutely astounding act of evil and affirmation of cruelty, they released the numbers to the public: 1488 lost children.\nYes. That's right. 1488, the same number literal nazis hold sacred.\nThe depth of evil and abuse and violence the right has descended to should be SO MUCH more alarming to more people. In case you think the assertion that the children were trafficked is alarmist please remember when they caught ICE transporting children without paperwork in the dead of night or keeping children in hotels without due process then sending them back to mexico with no transition process so they were essentially homeless.",
">\n\nWow. That is incredibly evil.",
">\n\nThe GOP are the Nazis come again. Time is a flat circle and most of the circle is fascism",
">\n\nNearly 75 percent is better than I expected, and they're still working. One small cause for optimism.",
">\n\nI wouldn't call it a small cause. This is pretty massive, actually following through with fixing this disgusting miscarriage of justice. I remember reading about this stuff happening and thinking that it would have to be a priority for a new administration. Glad it's being handled.",
">\n\nI remember reading this and thinking ‘holy fucking shit’, and my view on USA has not been the same since.\nThe fact Trump still got 70+ million votes after mandating/ordering this policy is insane.",
">\n\nTrump voters tend to be low information. If they even heard about this, they heard someone on Fox/Newsmax/twitter defending it or saying it was fantastic while distorting the truth about it.",
">\n\nI’d like to think they were ignorant, but somehow it all adds up. I can’t let it go.",
">\n\nNot enough, but it’s a start.",
">\n\nCrimes against humanity.",
">\n\nJesus Christ Trump was a disaster, we're just now returning the kids to their parents though?!? The damage we caused will never go away.",
">\n\nOver 2000 were returned during the Trump administration so these are part of the harder to find parents.",
">\n\nSomething tells me this will not be on many news stations tonight.",
">\n\nFinally. This is why I voted in 2020",
">\n\nI will be enraged until the headline reads ALL!",
">\n\nUnfortunately, that might never happen given that the Trump administration managed to lose track of a bunch of them. I wish I was making that up.",
">\n\nHow about the DOJ criminally prosecute the architects and others who had a hand in this heinous crime?",
">\n\n\nAccording to figures released by the Department of Homeland Security, 3,881 children were separated from their families from 2017 to 2021. About 74% of those have been reunited with their families: 2,176 before the task force was created and 689 afterward.\nBut that still leaves nearly 1,000 children. Of those, 148 are in the reunification process. The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children.\n\nUgh, close but not close enough to fixing this mistake.",
">\n\nRemember when the Trump administration claimed that it was impossible to reunite the families?",
">\n\nWhy do we always have to clean up after Republicans? Getting tiresome.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that because the separation policy was specifically designed to deter certain kinds of people from seeking asylum, these kidnappings qualify as a crime against humanity under international law.",
">\n\nA whole bunch of them were trafficked to the upper Midwest to work the overnight shift on meat packing plant floors. It was only uncovered when one of their middle school teachers called CPS because these kids were coming in with severe chemical burns on their hands and arms. And, yes - after working the overnight shift cleaning a meat processing plant floor, these kids were going to school all day. The youngest was 12.",
">\n\nOh no. Just appalling",
">\n\nBecause it’s the right thing to do. Well done. Still going to be a long road toward healing for those poor kids.",
">\n\nI'm still stunned nobody has gone to jail for this and that the US public did not draw the line at this. It is sickening.",
">\n\nWe don’t get credit for fixing our own fuckup",
">\n\nIt is SHAMEFUL how these people were treated.",
">\n\nThat is wonderful news. Trump and his administration were so evil and cruel. I can't imagine how anyone could be so heartless.",
">\n\nHow many of these kids were molested by Trump supporters? Not zero.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to think if Trump was still POTUS, these (and likely many more) kids would still be lost.",
">\n\nNot enough is made over the evil that Trump and Stephen Miller committed during this fiasco. \nObjectively horrific, vile men.",
">\n\nNever forget there was one boy who died in his own vomit for hours before someone checked up on him. My blood still seethes thinking about it.\nHis name was Carlos Gregorio Hernandez Vasquez, he was 16 from Guatemala.",
">\n\nI'm very happy to read this. That said, the fact that this ever happened (and I don't care who it happens under) is disgusting and needs to be completely stopped from happening again.",
">\n\nThis should be much bigger news",
">\n\nHow many years were these kids without their parents in a government camp?",
">\n\nClose to four years.",
">\n\nOh yea I forgot he did this, the absolute sicko",
">\n\nThis is real oppressive fascist shit, my dear Americans. Except those who should hear this either won't read this or don't have a problem with it...",
">\n\nThis probably puts SStephen Miller in the deepest of funks.",
">\n\nGenuinely good news and a step towards righting an intentionally monstrous act.",
">\n\nhow many more are there? how many were raped? how many died?",
">\n\nIt's good to see the nation moving closer to its founding principles.",
">\n\nIf this is true, it’s the only news I heard today that I give a single fuck about. Wow. YES. Keep going. 100% reunification.",
">\n\nThere are still missing children.",
">\n\nTrAnS pEoPlE aRe GrOoMiNg OuR cHiLdReN. No, there not, and your outrage would be more effective if it targeted the POS you voted for.",
">\n\nTrump reign of terror was so barbaric.",
">\n\nThing is. .....Republicans are probably unhappy about this.",
">\n\nThis definitely put a smile on my face! :)",
">\n\nUS reunites nearly 700 kids taken from parents under ~~Trump~~ the republicans.",
">\n\nSomehow trump will take credit for this. He'll say something like how much better he made those parents appreciate their children and the children their parents. Ugh.",
">\n\nbold of you to assume he'll pay any attention at all to them.",
">\n\nHow I fucking wish \"Kids in cages\" never became the misleading rallying cry against Trump when kidnapped children was the more accurate description of what the administration was doing that needed to be stopped immediately.\nHow many times have you seen some galaxy brain talk about how \"Oh nobody says 'kids in cages' anymore now that it's ok Biden is doing it!\" Yeah it was a stupid and inaccurate criticism to begin with, because any kind of policy of detaining people caught trying to cross the border illegally will fit the \"kids in cages\" meme. \nThe entire reason people got mad at Trump beyond the border wall nonsense was because he specifically ordered a family separation policy that was designed to function as a cruel deterrent to immigration. The Obama administration was forced to adopt a family separation policy because courts ruled that minors could not be detained with adults when detained by ICE, but the Trump administration embraced this policy and added on kidnapping and forced separation across the country which resembled human trafficking more than any kind of immigration policy.\nAnd yeah, Biden is reuniting people while still maintaining a policy of not letting anyone cross the border anywhere at any time for any reason. We can talk about the ethics of detaining people caught trying to cross a national border illegally, and we should. But its an entirely separate discussion from whether one should steal their kids and ship them across the country and throw away the records of where they went.",
">\n\nAnother horrifying legacy of the US.",
">\n\nStephen Miller needs to be permanently attached to this heartless decision.",
">\n\nThe damage has been done. It's literally the least we can do is give them their children back.. I can't even believe that sentence needed to be said. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nFinally, someone thought of the children",
">\n\nYet another crime that orange gasbag will never be punished for…",
">\n\nThis chapter of Trump's presidency was truly mask off evil from the party that professes that they are the party of morals and family values. Before this people could argue that they could be afforded the benefit of the doubt. I kind of knew that Republicans were trolls and bad faith actors but then after this I knew that they really have no bottom line with how low they are willing to go. Truly evil what they did to those desperate families and kids when it would have been the easiest thing in the world to just not.",
">\n\nThis is not the same war crime Russia is doing in the Ukraine. It's a completely different war crime.",
">\n\nIt's sad and despicable that this is even necessary.",
">\n\nThis post has about 670 comments. Imagine if every single one of them was a family reunion. Heartbreaking cruelty from the last administration.",
">\n\nThe Trimp administration did a lot terrible things and had plenty of awful, harmful policies. But this is one of those times when it crossed the line into literal evil.",
">\n\nI figured this was happening in the background but damn it's heartbreaking that it's taking this long because of how thoroughly Trump fucked up any semblance of process for the DHS\nLike don't get me wrong, anyone who works for ICE is and always has been a disgusting pig, but they used to be disgusting pigs bound by similar levels of US bureaucracy as the rest of the government",
">\n\nThis was a very good thing to do and the media isn’t talking about it.",
">\n\nThis needs to be bigger news",
">\n\nWhat the hell AP, it was the US under Trump too. Maybe a better headline might have been \"Biden admin reunites nearly 700...\"",
">\n\nOur bad, we did teach the kid to walk and talk, she mostly knows to say “put your hands through the bars” but still.",
">\n\nThis is news I've been waiting 6 years for.",
">\n\nWas Eric one of them?",
">\n\nI will look for you, I will find you and I will reunite you",
">\n\nLike the motherfucking handmaids tale or some shit",
">\n\nIt's nice for the country to be taking a step back towards its ideals.",
">\n\nWhy the fuck is this not plastered all over the news? This was an international outrage for years and now it’s a tiny news story thrown in on a Friday? Whomever is in charge of the WH Press Office should be ashamed.",
">\n\nNot sure what the White House Press Office could do here if outlets simply don't bother pushing the story.",
">\n\nI want to know how many are still separated.\nEverything else is not good enough.",
">\n\nYou will need to do a slight bit of math when reading the article to get the exact number but it as about a thousand remaining to be united.",
">\n\nI feel for these kids (and their parents). Many of them have been sexually assaulted because no one was there to protect them.",
">\n\nGee, Trump reminds me of Hitler for some reason. Does anyone else see a similarity? One redeeming factor is that we all know how Hitler ended up.",
">\n\nIt is a great labor to undo great evils. \nGlad it's being done.",
">\n\nHow many in total were separated? 700 is great, but if there are still 1,000s more this should also be an equal amount of new coverage.",
">\n\nThe exact counts are in the article if you want them.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if the articles were meant to be read.",
">\n\nIt’s a good start",
">\n\nIs trump a Russian spy?\nA global traitor",
">\n\nWhen will the real criminals be put in jail?",
">\n\nvery nice to see this happen and hopefully never happens again.",
">\n\nI pray the remaining children are with US family members. This was an impeachable criminal act by Trump",
">\n\nThis was by far the most evil thing his administration did.",
">\n\nNow seperate Trump from his family.",
">\n\nI mean, damage done. If I was fleeing my home in terror from economic disaster, and the place I ran to stole my fucking kid from me, and I didn’t get them back for three years?…. I mean… that dude is a terrorist now. What is left in his life except to punish this country?",
">\n\nLock him up",
">\n\nSome good news",
">\n\nThis is not enough.",
">\n\nI was kidnapped and separated from one of my parents for a week when I was young. To be separated for such a long time… The shit is going to haunt those kids for the rest of their lives and they will likely hate those who put them through this. I know this firsthand just based how lost I felt in my experience.",
">\n\nSome good news.",
">\n\nOh, well that's good news.",
">\n\nBut I was told in 2016 that Democrats were the same as Republicans.",
">\n\nI know the mods have that thing about being courteous to others blah blah blah, but fuck trump...",
">\n\nYes, but there are still an estimated 1,000 more that they can’t even find yet. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nThe headline shouldn't exist but half the country literally voted for this to happen. It's insane. Ashamed to be an American.",
">\n\nAfter the last child is reunited with family, Melania's \"I don't really care do you\" jacket will be displayed in the Smithsonian.",
">\n\n*Biden administration reunites 700 kids taken from parents under trump",
">\n\nOnly 49,300 to go.",
">\n\nThe Trump administration was monstrous. If there is such a thing as Karma this country has a lot to pay for…",
">\n\nI hope they use this to finally lock up Trump and his goons. This is disgusting and a stain on the US.",
">\n\nThe right thing to do.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\n/r/Orphancrushingmachine",
">\n\nWhy are the Republicans such pieces of shit? The whole fucking Republican Party needs to be done away with permanently.",
">\n\nIts still happening. Reuniting kids is great and all but if the same policies that separated them still exist it doesn't mean anything"
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"The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children. In 30 years from now we will be seeing documentaries about children who suffered permanent psychological damage at the hands of Trumps administration. People will be shocked to learn that the U.S. government focible took these peoples children and intentionally separated them to be cruel.",
">\n\nThe people who supported it will pretend they never knew anything about it and act shocked and disgusted.",
">\n\nThey already are claiming this did not happen or Obama did it or some other nonsense. Let me clear: Trump instituted a policy to forcibly separate children (including infants) from their legal asylum-seekng parents at the border. He did this to be cruel and scare people from coming. His minions then forgot to keep records of who the kids were.",
">\n\nI'd only argue with \"forgot.\" They intentionally didn't keep records so as to make it as difficult as possible to reunite these families. The cruelty was the point. In fact, they outright declared that they were doing this to try to dissuade people from coming to America. \"Try to seek asylum in America and we'll separate you from your kids who you'll never see again!\"",
">\n\n\"The laws are the laws\" = dead giveaway for a fascist. The law is there to serve the people. If it's not serving them, it should be changed.",
">\n\nWhat really gives away the game is politicians supporting and pushing through laws that do not have majority public support - anti-marijuana and abortion come to mind. Also the use of propaganda to try to affect levels of support for certain things.",
">\n\nA piece of legislation is almost always guaranteed to fail if it polls extremely popular with Americans on all sides. It's really sad...",
">\n\nYep, like “80% of Americans support this” and they’re uh… “oh but some discredited propaganda bullshit”. Really gives away who they are truly working for.",
">\n\nNo, they'll have their \"experts\" testify that they're correct. Then you find out the \"expert\" talking about MJ legalization is a LEO and the \"expert\" talking about abortion is a religious leader.",
">\n\nThe people who did this belong on trail for crimes against humanity at the Hague.\nActual consequences? Fuckin' crickets as usual.",
">\n\nReminder that under Bush the US granted itself permission to invade The Hague If an American citizen should ever be tried there.",
">\n\nWe should send Bush to be tried there.",
">\n\nTrump and his henchmen should be charged for these crimes. Of all of Trump's crimes, I think the concentration camps for immigrants and separating immigrants from their children were among the worst. We have to punish them or this will happen again next time they have the presidency.",
">\n\nAmerica doesn't punish Republican crimes.\n\nSource: Jan 6th",
">\n\nThe list of sources is very long.",
">\n\nIt starts at least with the Watergate. GWB never answered to war crimes or to lying to start a war. And Trump pardon the only person charged in the Valery Plane affair.",
">\n\nDidn't Nixon interfere with the peace process in Vietnam, extending the war so his opponent wouldn't get a win right before the election?",
">\n\nYep.",
">\n\nStephen Miller should be in a 6 x 9",
">\n\nAre there any cells smaller than that for that pea brained asshat?",
">\n\nThere’s a box",
">\n\nIf it fits it sits",
">\n\nThis program of separating parents from their children without documentation is going to be remembered in the same way we talk about the Syphilis Study at Tuskegee. Except that was the 1930s.\nOne of these days some of those kids are going to take their pound of flesh out of the United States either legally or violently, and they'll have right on their side.",
">\n\nnah, the fascists will have rewritten history in the US by then. Our kids will never learn about any of it unless we move.",
">\n\nPresident Ron Desantis III will remove it from the national curriculum.",
">\n\nProbably in a governor position he would still have that power",
">\n\nNever forget this was a crime against humanity. Conservatives supported it. Even your so called “moderate conservative friends”\nIf it had been your kid they wouldn’t give a fuck.\nIn 20 years people will call it a stain on our nation. But the sociopaths who enabled it are here right now.",
">\n\nThe sociopaths who enabled it are in a very good position to seize absolute control of our country, too.",
">\n\nDon’t forget that it’s the trump supporters that empowered the sociopaths.",
">\n\nIt boggles my mind how there isn't a bigger deal made of this. They stole kids from their parents. Any time it pops into my head, I'm infuriated. In a just world, Trump and his administration would be harshly punished.",
">\n\nSeriously. It is crime against HUMANITY",
">\n\nDOJ should throw kidnapping charges onto the pile of Trump crimes.",
">\n\nKidnapped. That's called kidnapping.",
">\n\nAbduction, human trafficking, genocide.\nTake your pick.",
">\n\nThis needs to be made into a drama doc, like the recent Jeffrey Dahmer series. I guarantee it would make a compelling story, and if done right, it would reach even strong trump supporters just by virtue of it's entertainment value. \nThis whole debacle was one of the cruelest things the US has done in decades, and it was done with Glee by a mentally unstable maniac and his supporters. The sooner we see it through the lens of history and regret, the better",
">\n\nWe better hurry before the republicans ban all history.",
">\n\nThis is only happening because trump never had a plan to reunite the families.\nFor those in the back. He ripped apart families with NO INTENTION OF THEM EVER BEING REUNITED.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. In order to create a situation like this, they had to have the intent to prevent the reuniting of families.",
">\n\nIt pains me to think how great this nation could be if the government didnt have to spend time and resources fixing the things republican admins did",
">\n\nIt's such an insane cycle. Conservatives fuck shit up, Dems finally get back in and spend the entire time fixing shit, conservatives run on \"look, they didn't make anything better!\", get back in to fuck shit up. Rinse and repeat.",
">\n\nExcept Dems (if they actually focus on it) are usually only able to fix 70ish% of the budgetary and humanitarian issues that were cause by the previous administration. Then when they lose reelection we slip further backwards.",
">\n\nWhat do you mean if?",
">\n\nIf they focus on repairing damage instead of squabbling with each other (which happens a lot).",
">\n\nAs a Mexican immigrant I really appreciate this",
">\n\nI just wish we had received the same support nationwide like BLM did.",
">\n\nOutraged Republicans demand to know why they were not sold to traffickers as they planned.",
">\n\nThink of all that could have been accomplished in the same time with the same effort if we didn't need them to focus on this. Every Democratic administration is hobbled by needing to undo the evils of the Republicans before them. And it doesn't go the other way because it only takes a second to wreck something, but it takes time to do things right.",
">\n\nContrarily to what the aryicle stars, they were not crossing illegaly. They came as asylum seekers, which is legal. Many (all?) of them arrived at official points of entry. These are not people who were arrested crossing the river in the middle of the night (not that it would justify taking their kids in any way).",
">\n\nOf course the Republican subs are silent on this\nFuck trump",
">\n\ngiving them all citizenship and all of their families is the least we could do for what we've done to those kids",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nThey’ll still be traumatized for the rest of their lives. Drug addiction, depression, suicides will plague these children. If there were any justice, the architects of this policy should be charged with crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nTypical go to of Christian nationalists is to steal children.",
">\n\nI guess the conservatives are ok as long it isn't their child or children.",
">\n\nI want to remind everyone here that Trump's ICE not only separated countless children from their parents, they then \"LOST\" them. Trafficked. They trafficked them. But they called them \"lost\". Then, in an absolutely astounding act of evil and affirmation of cruelty, they released the numbers to the public: 1488 lost children.\nYes. That's right. 1488, the same number literal nazis hold sacred.\nThe depth of evil and abuse and violence the right has descended to should be SO MUCH more alarming to more people. In case you think the assertion that the children were trafficked is alarmist please remember when they caught ICE transporting children without paperwork in the dead of night or keeping children in hotels without due process then sending them back to mexico with no transition process so they were essentially homeless.",
">\n\nWow. That is incredibly evil.",
">\n\nThe GOP are the Nazis come again. Time is a flat circle and most of the circle is fascism",
">\n\nNearly 75 percent is better than I expected, and they're still working. One small cause for optimism.",
">\n\nI wouldn't call it a small cause. This is pretty massive, actually following through with fixing this disgusting miscarriage of justice. I remember reading about this stuff happening and thinking that it would have to be a priority for a new administration. Glad it's being handled.",
">\n\nI remember reading this and thinking ‘holy fucking shit’, and my view on USA has not been the same since.\nThe fact Trump still got 70+ million votes after mandating/ordering this policy is insane.",
">\n\nTrump voters tend to be low information. If they even heard about this, they heard someone on Fox/Newsmax/twitter defending it or saying it was fantastic while distorting the truth about it.",
">\n\nI’d like to think they were ignorant, but somehow it all adds up. I can’t let it go.",
">\n\nNot enough, but it’s a start.",
">\n\nCrimes against humanity.",
">\n\nJesus Christ Trump was a disaster, we're just now returning the kids to their parents though?!? The damage we caused will never go away.",
">\n\nOver 2000 were returned during the Trump administration so these are part of the harder to find parents.",
">\n\nSomething tells me this will not be on many news stations tonight.",
">\n\nFinally. This is why I voted in 2020",
">\n\nI will be enraged until the headline reads ALL!",
">\n\nUnfortunately, that might never happen given that the Trump administration managed to lose track of a bunch of them. I wish I was making that up.",
">\n\nHow about the DOJ criminally prosecute the architects and others who had a hand in this heinous crime?",
">\n\n\nAccording to figures released by the Department of Homeland Security, 3,881 children were separated from their families from 2017 to 2021. About 74% of those have been reunited with their families: 2,176 before the task force was created and 689 afterward.\nBut that still leaves nearly 1,000 children. Of those, 148 are in the reunification process. The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children.\n\nUgh, close but not close enough to fixing this mistake.",
">\n\nRemember when the Trump administration claimed that it was impossible to reunite the families?",
">\n\nWhy do we always have to clean up after Republicans? Getting tiresome.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that because the separation policy was specifically designed to deter certain kinds of people from seeking asylum, these kidnappings qualify as a crime against humanity under international law.",
">\n\nA whole bunch of them were trafficked to the upper Midwest to work the overnight shift on meat packing plant floors. It was only uncovered when one of their middle school teachers called CPS because these kids were coming in with severe chemical burns on their hands and arms. And, yes - after working the overnight shift cleaning a meat processing plant floor, these kids were going to school all day. The youngest was 12.",
">\n\nOh no. Just appalling",
">\n\nBecause it’s the right thing to do. Well done. Still going to be a long road toward healing for those poor kids.",
">\n\nI'm still stunned nobody has gone to jail for this and that the US public did not draw the line at this. It is sickening.",
">\n\nWe don’t get credit for fixing our own fuckup",
">\n\nIt is SHAMEFUL how these people were treated.",
">\n\nThat is wonderful news. Trump and his administration were so evil and cruel. I can't imagine how anyone could be so heartless.",
">\n\nHow many of these kids were molested by Trump supporters? Not zero.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to think if Trump was still POTUS, these (and likely many more) kids would still be lost.",
">\n\nNot enough is made over the evil that Trump and Stephen Miller committed during this fiasco. \nObjectively horrific, vile men.",
">\n\nNever forget there was one boy who died in his own vomit for hours before someone checked up on him. My blood still seethes thinking about it.\nHis name was Carlos Gregorio Hernandez Vasquez, he was 16 from Guatemala.",
">\n\nI'm very happy to read this. That said, the fact that this ever happened (and I don't care who it happens under) is disgusting and needs to be completely stopped from happening again.",
">\n\nThis should be much bigger news",
">\n\nHow many years were these kids without their parents in a government camp?",
">\n\nClose to four years.",
">\n\nOh yea I forgot he did this, the absolute sicko",
">\n\nThis is real oppressive fascist shit, my dear Americans. Except those who should hear this either won't read this or don't have a problem with it...",
">\n\nThis probably puts SStephen Miller in the deepest of funks.",
">\n\nGenuinely good news and a step towards righting an intentionally monstrous act.",
">\n\nhow many more are there? how many were raped? how many died?",
">\n\nIt's good to see the nation moving closer to its founding principles.",
">\n\nIf this is true, it’s the only news I heard today that I give a single fuck about. Wow. YES. Keep going. 100% reunification.",
">\n\nThere are still missing children.",
">\n\nTrAnS pEoPlE aRe GrOoMiNg OuR cHiLdReN. No, there not, and your outrage would be more effective if it targeted the POS you voted for.",
">\n\nTrump reign of terror was so barbaric.",
">\n\nThing is. .....Republicans are probably unhappy about this.",
">\n\nThis definitely put a smile on my face! :)",
">\n\nUS reunites nearly 700 kids taken from parents under ~~Trump~~ the republicans.",
">\n\nSomehow trump will take credit for this. He'll say something like how much better he made those parents appreciate their children and the children their parents. Ugh.",
">\n\nbold of you to assume he'll pay any attention at all to them.",
">\n\nHow I fucking wish \"Kids in cages\" never became the misleading rallying cry against Trump when kidnapped children was the more accurate description of what the administration was doing that needed to be stopped immediately.\nHow many times have you seen some galaxy brain talk about how \"Oh nobody says 'kids in cages' anymore now that it's ok Biden is doing it!\" Yeah it was a stupid and inaccurate criticism to begin with, because any kind of policy of detaining people caught trying to cross the border illegally will fit the \"kids in cages\" meme. \nThe entire reason people got mad at Trump beyond the border wall nonsense was because he specifically ordered a family separation policy that was designed to function as a cruel deterrent to immigration. The Obama administration was forced to adopt a family separation policy because courts ruled that minors could not be detained with adults when detained by ICE, but the Trump administration embraced this policy and added on kidnapping and forced separation across the country which resembled human trafficking more than any kind of immigration policy.\nAnd yeah, Biden is reuniting people while still maintaining a policy of not letting anyone cross the border anywhere at any time for any reason. We can talk about the ethics of detaining people caught trying to cross a national border illegally, and we should. But its an entirely separate discussion from whether one should steal their kids and ship them across the country and throw away the records of where they went.",
">\n\nAnother horrifying legacy of the US.",
">\n\nStephen Miller needs to be permanently attached to this heartless decision.",
">\n\nThe damage has been done. It's literally the least we can do is give them their children back.. I can't even believe that sentence needed to be said. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nFinally, someone thought of the children",
">\n\nYet another crime that orange gasbag will never be punished for…",
">\n\nThis chapter of Trump's presidency was truly mask off evil from the party that professes that they are the party of morals and family values. Before this people could argue that they could be afforded the benefit of the doubt. I kind of knew that Republicans were trolls and bad faith actors but then after this I knew that they really have no bottom line with how low they are willing to go. Truly evil what they did to those desperate families and kids when it would have been the easiest thing in the world to just not.",
">\n\nThis is not the same war crime Russia is doing in the Ukraine. It's a completely different war crime.",
">\n\nIt's sad and despicable that this is even necessary.",
">\n\nThis post has about 670 comments. Imagine if every single one of them was a family reunion. Heartbreaking cruelty from the last administration.",
">\n\nThe Trimp administration did a lot terrible things and had plenty of awful, harmful policies. But this is one of those times when it crossed the line into literal evil.",
">\n\nI figured this was happening in the background but damn it's heartbreaking that it's taking this long because of how thoroughly Trump fucked up any semblance of process for the DHS\nLike don't get me wrong, anyone who works for ICE is and always has been a disgusting pig, but they used to be disgusting pigs bound by similar levels of US bureaucracy as the rest of the government",
">\n\nThis was a very good thing to do and the media isn’t talking about it.",
">\n\nThis needs to be bigger news",
">\n\nWhat the hell AP, it was the US under Trump too. Maybe a better headline might have been \"Biden admin reunites nearly 700...\"",
">\n\nOur bad, we did teach the kid to walk and talk, she mostly knows to say “put your hands through the bars” but still.",
">\n\nThis is news I've been waiting 6 years for.",
">\n\nWas Eric one of them?",
">\n\nI will look for you, I will find you and I will reunite you",
">\n\nLike the motherfucking handmaids tale or some shit",
">\n\nIt's nice for the country to be taking a step back towards its ideals.",
">\n\nWhy the fuck is this not plastered all over the news? This was an international outrage for years and now it’s a tiny news story thrown in on a Friday? Whomever is in charge of the WH Press Office should be ashamed.",
">\n\nNot sure what the White House Press Office could do here if outlets simply don't bother pushing the story.",
">\n\nI want to know how many are still separated.\nEverything else is not good enough.",
">\n\nYou will need to do a slight bit of math when reading the article to get the exact number but it as about a thousand remaining to be united.",
">\n\nI feel for these kids (and their parents). Many of them have been sexually assaulted because no one was there to protect them.",
">\n\nGee, Trump reminds me of Hitler for some reason. Does anyone else see a similarity? One redeeming factor is that we all know how Hitler ended up.",
">\n\nIt is a great labor to undo great evils. \nGlad it's being done.",
">\n\nHow many in total were separated? 700 is great, but if there are still 1,000s more this should also be an equal amount of new coverage.",
">\n\nThe exact counts are in the article if you want them.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if the articles were meant to be read.",
">\n\nIt’s a good start",
">\n\nIs trump a Russian spy?\nA global traitor",
">\n\nWhen will the real criminals be put in jail?",
">\n\nvery nice to see this happen and hopefully never happens again.",
">\n\nI pray the remaining children are with US family members. This was an impeachable criminal act by Trump",
">\n\nThis was by far the most evil thing his administration did.",
">\n\nNow seperate Trump from his family.",
">\n\nI mean, damage done. If I was fleeing my home in terror from economic disaster, and the place I ran to stole my fucking kid from me, and I didn’t get them back for three years?…. I mean… that dude is a terrorist now. What is left in his life except to punish this country?",
">\n\nLock him up",
">\n\nSome good news",
">\n\nThis is not enough.",
">\n\nI was kidnapped and separated from one of my parents for a week when I was young. To be separated for such a long time… The shit is going to haunt those kids for the rest of their lives and they will likely hate those who put them through this. I know this firsthand just based how lost I felt in my experience.",
">\n\nSome good news.",
">\n\nOh, well that's good news.",
">\n\nBut I was told in 2016 that Democrats were the same as Republicans.",
">\n\nI know the mods have that thing about being courteous to others blah blah blah, but fuck trump...",
">\n\nYes, but there are still an estimated 1,000 more that they can’t even find yet. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nThe headline shouldn't exist but half the country literally voted for this to happen. It's insane. Ashamed to be an American.",
">\n\nAfter the last child is reunited with family, Melania's \"I don't really care do you\" jacket will be displayed in the Smithsonian.",
">\n\n*Biden administration reunites 700 kids taken from parents under trump",
">\n\nOnly 49,300 to go.",
">\n\nThe Trump administration was monstrous. If there is such a thing as Karma this country has a lot to pay for…",
">\n\nI hope they use this to finally lock up Trump and his goons. This is disgusting and a stain on the US.",
">\n\nThe right thing to do.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\n/r/Orphancrushingmachine",
">\n\nWhy are the Republicans such pieces of shit? The whole fucking Republican Party needs to be done away with permanently.",
">\n\nIts still happening. Reuniting kids is great and all but if the same policies that separated them still exist it doesn't mean anything",
">\n\nbelongs in /r/upliftingnews!"
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"The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children. In 30 years from now we will be seeing documentaries about children who suffered permanent psychological damage at the hands of Trumps administration. People will be shocked to learn that the U.S. government focible took these peoples children and intentionally separated them to be cruel.",
">\n\nThe people who supported it will pretend they never knew anything about it and act shocked and disgusted.",
">\n\nThey already are claiming this did not happen or Obama did it or some other nonsense. Let me clear: Trump instituted a policy to forcibly separate children (including infants) from their legal asylum-seekng parents at the border. He did this to be cruel and scare people from coming. His minions then forgot to keep records of who the kids were.",
">\n\nI'd only argue with \"forgot.\" They intentionally didn't keep records so as to make it as difficult as possible to reunite these families. The cruelty was the point. In fact, they outright declared that they were doing this to try to dissuade people from coming to America. \"Try to seek asylum in America and we'll separate you from your kids who you'll never see again!\"",
">\n\n\"The laws are the laws\" = dead giveaway for a fascist. The law is there to serve the people. If it's not serving them, it should be changed.",
">\n\nWhat really gives away the game is politicians supporting and pushing through laws that do not have majority public support - anti-marijuana and abortion come to mind. Also the use of propaganda to try to affect levels of support for certain things.",
">\n\nA piece of legislation is almost always guaranteed to fail if it polls extremely popular with Americans on all sides. It's really sad...",
">\n\nYep, like “80% of Americans support this” and they’re uh… “oh but some discredited propaganda bullshit”. Really gives away who they are truly working for.",
">\n\nNo, they'll have their \"experts\" testify that they're correct. Then you find out the \"expert\" talking about MJ legalization is a LEO and the \"expert\" talking about abortion is a religious leader.",
">\n\nThe people who did this belong on trail for crimes against humanity at the Hague.\nActual consequences? Fuckin' crickets as usual.",
">\n\nReminder that under Bush the US granted itself permission to invade The Hague If an American citizen should ever be tried there.",
">\n\nWe should send Bush to be tried there.",
">\n\nTrump and his henchmen should be charged for these crimes. Of all of Trump's crimes, I think the concentration camps for immigrants and separating immigrants from their children were among the worst. We have to punish them or this will happen again next time they have the presidency.",
">\n\nAmerica doesn't punish Republican crimes.\n\nSource: Jan 6th",
">\n\nThe list of sources is very long.",
">\n\nIt starts at least with the Watergate. GWB never answered to war crimes or to lying to start a war. And Trump pardon the only person charged in the Valery Plane affair.",
">\n\nDidn't Nixon interfere with the peace process in Vietnam, extending the war so his opponent wouldn't get a win right before the election?",
">\n\nYep.",
">\n\nStephen Miller should be in a 6 x 9",
">\n\nAre there any cells smaller than that for that pea brained asshat?",
">\n\nThere’s a box",
">\n\nIf it fits it sits",
">\n\nThis program of separating parents from their children without documentation is going to be remembered in the same way we talk about the Syphilis Study at Tuskegee. Except that was the 1930s.\nOne of these days some of those kids are going to take their pound of flesh out of the United States either legally or violently, and they'll have right on their side.",
">\n\nnah, the fascists will have rewritten history in the US by then. Our kids will never learn about any of it unless we move.",
">\n\nPresident Ron Desantis III will remove it from the national curriculum.",
">\n\nProbably in a governor position he would still have that power",
">\n\nNever forget this was a crime against humanity. Conservatives supported it. Even your so called “moderate conservative friends”\nIf it had been your kid they wouldn’t give a fuck.\nIn 20 years people will call it a stain on our nation. But the sociopaths who enabled it are here right now.",
">\n\nThe sociopaths who enabled it are in a very good position to seize absolute control of our country, too.",
">\n\nDon’t forget that it’s the trump supporters that empowered the sociopaths.",
">\n\nIt boggles my mind how there isn't a bigger deal made of this. They stole kids from their parents. Any time it pops into my head, I'm infuriated. In a just world, Trump and his administration would be harshly punished.",
">\n\nSeriously. It is crime against HUMANITY",
">\n\nDOJ should throw kidnapping charges onto the pile of Trump crimes.",
">\n\nKidnapped. That's called kidnapping.",
">\n\nAbduction, human trafficking, genocide.\nTake your pick.",
">\n\nThis needs to be made into a drama doc, like the recent Jeffrey Dahmer series. I guarantee it would make a compelling story, and if done right, it would reach even strong trump supporters just by virtue of it's entertainment value. \nThis whole debacle was one of the cruelest things the US has done in decades, and it was done with Glee by a mentally unstable maniac and his supporters. The sooner we see it through the lens of history and regret, the better",
">\n\nWe better hurry before the republicans ban all history.",
">\n\nThis is only happening because trump never had a plan to reunite the families.\nFor those in the back. He ripped apart families with NO INTENTION OF THEM EVER BEING REUNITED.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. In order to create a situation like this, they had to have the intent to prevent the reuniting of families.",
">\n\nIt pains me to think how great this nation could be if the government didnt have to spend time and resources fixing the things republican admins did",
">\n\nIt's such an insane cycle. Conservatives fuck shit up, Dems finally get back in and spend the entire time fixing shit, conservatives run on \"look, they didn't make anything better!\", get back in to fuck shit up. Rinse and repeat.",
">\n\nExcept Dems (if they actually focus on it) are usually only able to fix 70ish% of the budgetary and humanitarian issues that were cause by the previous administration. Then when they lose reelection we slip further backwards.",
">\n\nWhat do you mean if?",
">\n\nIf they focus on repairing damage instead of squabbling with each other (which happens a lot).",
">\n\nAs a Mexican immigrant I really appreciate this",
">\n\nI just wish we had received the same support nationwide like BLM did.",
">\n\nOutraged Republicans demand to know why they were not sold to traffickers as they planned.",
">\n\nThink of all that could have been accomplished in the same time with the same effort if we didn't need them to focus on this. Every Democratic administration is hobbled by needing to undo the evils of the Republicans before them. And it doesn't go the other way because it only takes a second to wreck something, but it takes time to do things right.",
">\n\nContrarily to what the aryicle stars, they were not crossing illegaly. They came as asylum seekers, which is legal. Many (all?) of them arrived at official points of entry. These are not people who were arrested crossing the river in the middle of the night (not that it would justify taking their kids in any way).",
">\n\nOf course the Republican subs are silent on this\nFuck trump",
">\n\ngiving them all citizenship and all of their families is the least we could do for what we've done to those kids",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nThey’ll still be traumatized for the rest of their lives. Drug addiction, depression, suicides will plague these children. If there were any justice, the architects of this policy should be charged with crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nTypical go to of Christian nationalists is to steal children.",
">\n\nI guess the conservatives are ok as long it isn't their child or children.",
">\n\nI want to remind everyone here that Trump's ICE not only separated countless children from their parents, they then \"LOST\" them. Trafficked. They trafficked them. But they called them \"lost\". Then, in an absolutely astounding act of evil and affirmation of cruelty, they released the numbers to the public: 1488 lost children.\nYes. That's right. 1488, the same number literal nazis hold sacred.\nThe depth of evil and abuse and violence the right has descended to should be SO MUCH more alarming to more people. In case you think the assertion that the children were trafficked is alarmist please remember when they caught ICE transporting children without paperwork in the dead of night or keeping children in hotels without due process then sending them back to mexico with no transition process so they were essentially homeless.",
">\n\nWow. That is incredibly evil.",
">\n\nThe GOP are the Nazis come again. Time is a flat circle and most of the circle is fascism",
">\n\nNearly 75 percent is better than I expected, and they're still working. One small cause for optimism.",
">\n\nI wouldn't call it a small cause. This is pretty massive, actually following through with fixing this disgusting miscarriage of justice. I remember reading about this stuff happening and thinking that it would have to be a priority for a new administration. Glad it's being handled.",
">\n\nI remember reading this and thinking ‘holy fucking shit’, and my view on USA has not been the same since.\nThe fact Trump still got 70+ million votes after mandating/ordering this policy is insane.",
">\n\nTrump voters tend to be low information. If they even heard about this, they heard someone on Fox/Newsmax/twitter defending it or saying it was fantastic while distorting the truth about it.",
">\n\nI’d like to think they were ignorant, but somehow it all adds up. I can’t let it go.",
">\n\nNot enough, but it’s a start.",
">\n\nCrimes against humanity.",
">\n\nJesus Christ Trump was a disaster, we're just now returning the kids to their parents though?!? The damage we caused will never go away.",
">\n\nOver 2000 were returned during the Trump administration so these are part of the harder to find parents.",
">\n\nSomething tells me this will not be on many news stations tonight.",
">\n\nFinally. This is why I voted in 2020",
">\n\nI will be enraged until the headline reads ALL!",
">\n\nUnfortunately, that might never happen given that the Trump administration managed to lose track of a bunch of them. I wish I was making that up.",
">\n\nHow about the DOJ criminally prosecute the architects and others who had a hand in this heinous crime?",
">\n\n\nAccording to figures released by the Department of Homeland Security, 3,881 children were separated from their families from 2017 to 2021. About 74% of those have been reunited with their families: 2,176 before the task force was created and 689 afterward.\nBut that still leaves nearly 1,000 children. Of those, 148 are in the reunification process. The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children.\n\nUgh, close but not close enough to fixing this mistake.",
">\n\nRemember when the Trump administration claimed that it was impossible to reunite the families?",
">\n\nWhy do we always have to clean up after Republicans? Getting tiresome.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that because the separation policy was specifically designed to deter certain kinds of people from seeking asylum, these kidnappings qualify as a crime against humanity under international law.",
">\n\nA whole bunch of them were trafficked to the upper Midwest to work the overnight shift on meat packing plant floors. It was only uncovered when one of their middle school teachers called CPS because these kids were coming in with severe chemical burns on their hands and arms. And, yes - after working the overnight shift cleaning a meat processing plant floor, these kids were going to school all day. The youngest was 12.",
">\n\nOh no. Just appalling",
">\n\nBecause it’s the right thing to do. Well done. Still going to be a long road toward healing for those poor kids.",
">\n\nI'm still stunned nobody has gone to jail for this and that the US public did not draw the line at this. It is sickening.",
">\n\nWe don’t get credit for fixing our own fuckup",
">\n\nIt is SHAMEFUL how these people were treated.",
">\n\nThat is wonderful news. Trump and his administration were so evil and cruel. I can't imagine how anyone could be so heartless.",
">\n\nHow many of these kids were molested by Trump supporters? Not zero.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to think if Trump was still POTUS, these (and likely many more) kids would still be lost.",
">\n\nNot enough is made over the evil that Trump and Stephen Miller committed during this fiasco. \nObjectively horrific, vile men.",
">\n\nNever forget there was one boy who died in his own vomit for hours before someone checked up on him. My blood still seethes thinking about it.\nHis name was Carlos Gregorio Hernandez Vasquez, he was 16 from Guatemala.",
">\n\nI'm very happy to read this. That said, the fact that this ever happened (and I don't care who it happens under) is disgusting and needs to be completely stopped from happening again.",
">\n\nThis should be much bigger news",
">\n\nHow many years were these kids without their parents in a government camp?",
">\n\nClose to four years.",
">\n\nOh yea I forgot he did this, the absolute sicko",
">\n\nThis is real oppressive fascist shit, my dear Americans. Except those who should hear this either won't read this or don't have a problem with it...",
">\n\nThis probably puts SStephen Miller in the deepest of funks.",
">\n\nGenuinely good news and a step towards righting an intentionally monstrous act.",
">\n\nhow many more are there? how many were raped? how many died?",
">\n\nIt's good to see the nation moving closer to its founding principles.",
">\n\nIf this is true, it’s the only news I heard today that I give a single fuck about. Wow. YES. Keep going. 100% reunification.",
">\n\nThere are still missing children.",
">\n\nTrAnS pEoPlE aRe GrOoMiNg OuR cHiLdReN. No, there not, and your outrage would be more effective if it targeted the POS you voted for.",
">\n\nTrump reign of terror was so barbaric.",
">\n\nThing is. .....Republicans are probably unhappy about this.",
">\n\nThis definitely put a smile on my face! :)",
">\n\nUS reunites nearly 700 kids taken from parents under ~~Trump~~ the republicans.",
">\n\nSomehow trump will take credit for this. He'll say something like how much better he made those parents appreciate their children and the children their parents. Ugh.",
">\n\nbold of you to assume he'll pay any attention at all to them.",
">\n\nHow I fucking wish \"Kids in cages\" never became the misleading rallying cry against Trump when kidnapped children was the more accurate description of what the administration was doing that needed to be stopped immediately.\nHow many times have you seen some galaxy brain talk about how \"Oh nobody says 'kids in cages' anymore now that it's ok Biden is doing it!\" Yeah it was a stupid and inaccurate criticism to begin with, because any kind of policy of detaining people caught trying to cross the border illegally will fit the \"kids in cages\" meme. \nThe entire reason people got mad at Trump beyond the border wall nonsense was because he specifically ordered a family separation policy that was designed to function as a cruel deterrent to immigration. The Obama administration was forced to adopt a family separation policy because courts ruled that minors could not be detained with adults when detained by ICE, but the Trump administration embraced this policy and added on kidnapping and forced separation across the country which resembled human trafficking more than any kind of immigration policy.\nAnd yeah, Biden is reuniting people while still maintaining a policy of not letting anyone cross the border anywhere at any time for any reason. We can talk about the ethics of detaining people caught trying to cross a national border illegally, and we should. But its an entirely separate discussion from whether one should steal their kids and ship them across the country and throw away the records of where they went.",
">\n\nAnother horrifying legacy of the US.",
">\n\nStephen Miller needs to be permanently attached to this heartless decision.",
">\n\nThe damage has been done. It's literally the least we can do is give them their children back.. I can't even believe that sentence needed to be said. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nFinally, someone thought of the children",
">\n\nYet another crime that orange gasbag will never be punished for…",
">\n\nThis chapter of Trump's presidency was truly mask off evil from the party that professes that they are the party of morals and family values. Before this people could argue that they could be afforded the benefit of the doubt. I kind of knew that Republicans were trolls and bad faith actors but then after this I knew that they really have no bottom line with how low they are willing to go. Truly evil what they did to those desperate families and kids when it would have been the easiest thing in the world to just not.",
">\n\nThis is not the same war crime Russia is doing in the Ukraine. It's a completely different war crime.",
">\n\nIt's sad and despicable that this is even necessary.",
">\n\nThis post has about 670 comments. Imagine if every single one of them was a family reunion. Heartbreaking cruelty from the last administration.",
">\n\nThe Trimp administration did a lot terrible things and had plenty of awful, harmful policies. But this is one of those times when it crossed the line into literal evil.",
">\n\nI figured this was happening in the background but damn it's heartbreaking that it's taking this long because of how thoroughly Trump fucked up any semblance of process for the DHS\nLike don't get me wrong, anyone who works for ICE is and always has been a disgusting pig, but they used to be disgusting pigs bound by similar levels of US bureaucracy as the rest of the government",
">\n\nThis was a very good thing to do and the media isn’t talking about it.",
">\n\nThis needs to be bigger news",
">\n\nWhat the hell AP, it was the US under Trump too. Maybe a better headline might have been \"Biden admin reunites nearly 700...\"",
">\n\nOur bad, we did teach the kid to walk and talk, she mostly knows to say “put your hands through the bars” but still.",
">\n\nThis is news I've been waiting 6 years for.",
">\n\nWas Eric one of them?",
">\n\nI will look for you, I will find you and I will reunite you",
">\n\nLike the motherfucking handmaids tale or some shit",
">\n\nIt's nice for the country to be taking a step back towards its ideals.",
">\n\nWhy the fuck is this not plastered all over the news? This was an international outrage for years and now it’s a tiny news story thrown in on a Friday? Whomever is in charge of the WH Press Office should be ashamed.",
">\n\nNot sure what the White House Press Office could do here if outlets simply don't bother pushing the story.",
">\n\nI want to know how many are still separated.\nEverything else is not good enough.",
">\n\nYou will need to do a slight bit of math when reading the article to get the exact number but it as about a thousand remaining to be united.",
">\n\nI feel for these kids (and their parents). Many of them have been sexually assaulted because no one was there to protect them.",
">\n\nGee, Trump reminds me of Hitler for some reason. Does anyone else see a similarity? One redeeming factor is that we all know how Hitler ended up.",
">\n\nIt is a great labor to undo great evils. \nGlad it's being done.",
">\n\nHow many in total were separated? 700 is great, but if there are still 1,000s more this should also be an equal amount of new coverage.",
">\n\nThe exact counts are in the article if you want them.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if the articles were meant to be read.",
">\n\nIt’s a good start",
">\n\nIs trump a Russian spy?\nA global traitor",
">\n\nWhen will the real criminals be put in jail?",
">\n\nvery nice to see this happen and hopefully never happens again.",
">\n\nI pray the remaining children are with US family members. This was an impeachable criminal act by Trump",
">\n\nThis was by far the most evil thing his administration did.",
">\n\nNow seperate Trump from his family.",
">\n\nI mean, damage done. If I was fleeing my home in terror from economic disaster, and the place I ran to stole my fucking kid from me, and I didn’t get them back for three years?…. I mean… that dude is a terrorist now. What is left in his life except to punish this country?",
">\n\nLock him up",
">\n\nSome good news",
">\n\nThis is not enough.",
">\n\nI was kidnapped and separated from one of my parents for a week when I was young. To be separated for such a long time… The shit is going to haunt those kids for the rest of their lives and they will likely hate those who put them through this. I know this firsthand just based how lost I felt in my experience.",
">\n\nSome good news.",
">\n\nOh, well that's good news.",
">\n\nBut I was told in 2016 that Democrats were the same as Republicans.",
">\n\nI know the mods have that thing about being courteous to others blah blah blah, but fuck trump...",
">\n\nYes, but there are still an estimated 1,000 more that they can’t even find yet. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nThe headline shouldn't exist but half the country literally voted for this to happen. It's insane. Ashamed to be an American.",
">\n\nAfter the last child is reunited with family, Melania's \"I don't really care do you\" jacket will be displayed in the Smithsonian.",
">\n\n*Biden administration reunites 700 kids taken from parents under trump",
">\n\nOnly 49,300 to go.",
">\n\nThe Trump administration was monstrous. If there is such a thing as Karma this country has a lot to pay for…",
">\n\nI hope they use this to finally lock up Trump and his goons. This is disgusting and a stain on the US.",
">\n\nThe right thing to do.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\n/r/Orphancrushingmachine",
">\n\nWhy are the Republicans such pieces of shit? The whole fucking Republican Party needs to be done away with permanently.",
">\n\nIts still happening. Reuniting kids is great and all but if the same policies that separated them still exist it doesn't mean anything",
">\n\nbelongs in /r/upliftingnews!",
">\n\nHonestly it baffles me why people see “horrendous injustice addressed after long delay” and say “/r/upliftingnews”. There’s nothing uplifting about this story, everyone should be enraged."
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"The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children. In 30 years from now we will be seeing documentaries about children who suffered permanent psychological damage at the hands of Trumps administration. People will be shocked to learn that the U.S. government focible took these peoples children and intentionally separated them to be cruel.",
">\n\nThe people who supported it will pretend they never knew anything about it and act shocked and disgusted.",
">\n\nThey already are claiming this did not happen or Obama did it or some other nonsense. Let me clear: Trump instituted a policy to forcibly separate children (including infants) from their legal asylum-seekng parents at the border. He did this to be cruel and scare people from coming. His minions then forgot to keep records of who the kids were.",
">\n\nI'd only argue with \"forgot.\" They intentionally didn't keep records so as to make it as difficult as possible to reunite these families. The cruelty was the point. In fact, they outright declared that they were doing this to try to dissuade people from coming to America. \"Try to seek asylum in America and we'll separate you from your kids who you'll never see again!\"",
">\n\n\"The laws are the laws\" = dead giveaway for a fascist. The law is there to serve the people. If it's not serving them, it should be changed.",
">\n\nWhat really gives away the game is politicians supporting and pushing through laws that do not have majority public support - anti-marijuana and abortion come to mind. Also the use of propaganda to try to affect levels of support for certain things.",
">\n\nA piece of legislation is almost always guaranteed to fail if it polls extremely popular with Americans on all sides. It's really sad...",
">\n\nYep, like “80% of Americans support this” and they’re uh… “oh but some discredited propaganda bullshit”. Really gives away who they are truly working for.",
">\n\nNo, they'll have their \"experts\" testify that they're correct. Then you find out the \"expert\" talking about MJ legalization is a LEO and the \"expert\" talking about abortion is a religious leader.",
">\n\nThe people who did this belong on trail for crimes against humanity at the Hague.\nActual consequences? Fuckin' crickets as usual.",
">\n\nReminder that under Bush the US granted itself permission to invade The Hague If an American citizen should ever be tried there.",
">\n\nWe should send Bush to be tried there.",
">\n\nTrump and his henchmen should be charged for these crimes. Of all of Trump's crimes, I think the concentration camps for immigrants and separating immigrants from their children were among the worst. We have to punish them or this will happen again next time they have the presidency.",
">\n\nAmerica doesn't punish Republican crimes.\n\nSource: Jan 6th",
">\n\nThe list of sources is very long.",
">\n\nIt starts at least with the Watergate. GWB never answered to war crimes or to lying to start a war. And Trump pardon the only person charged in the Valery Plane affair.",
">\n\nDidn't Nixon interfere with the peace process in Vietnam, extending the war so his opponent wouldn't get a win right before the election?",
">\n\nYep.",
">\n\nStephen Miller should be in a 6 x 9",
">\n\nAre there any cells smaller than that for that pea brained asshat?",
">\n\nThere’s a box",
">\n\nIf it fits it sits",
">\n\nThis program of separating parents from their children without documentation is going to be remembered in the same way we talk about the Syphilis Study at Tuskegee. Except that was the 1930s.\nOne of these days some of those kids are going to take their pound of flesh out of the United States either legally or violently, and they'll have right on their side.",
">\n\nnah, the fascists will have rewritten history in the US by then. Our kids will never learn about any of it unless we move.",
">\n\nPresident Ron Desantis III will remove it from the national curriculum.",
">\n\nProbably in a governor position he would still have that power",
">\n\nNever forget this was a crime against humanity. Conservatives supported it. Even your so called “moderate conservative friends”\nIf it had been your kid they wouldn’t give a fuck.\nIn 20 years people will call it a stain on our nation. But the sociopaths who enabled it are here right now.",
">\n\nThe sociopaths who enabled it are in a very good position to seize absolute control of our country, too.",
">\n\nDon’t forget that it’s the trump supporters that empowered the sociopaths.",
">\n\nIt boggles my mind how there isn't a bigger deal made of this. They stole kids from their parents. Any time it pops into my head, I'm infuriated. In a just world, Trump and his administration would be harshly punished.",
">\n\nSeriously. It is crime against HUMANITY",
">\n\nDOJ should throw kidnapping charges onto the pile of Trump crimes.",
">\n\nKidnapped. That's called kidnapping.",
">\n\nAbduction, human trafficking, genocide.\nTake your pick.",
">\n\nThis needs to be made into a drama doc, like the recent Jeffrey Dahmer series. I guarantee it would make a compelling story, and if done right, it would reach even strong trump supporters just by virtue of it's entertainment value. \nThis whole debacle was one of the cruelest things the US has done in decades, and it was done with Glee by a mentally unstable maniac and his supporters. The sooner we see it through the lens of history and regret, the better",
">\n\nWe better hurry before the republicans ban all history.",
">\n\nThis is only happening because trump never had a plan to reunite the families.\nFor those in the back. He ripped apart families with NO INTENTION OF THEM EVER BEING REUNITED.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. In order to create a situation like this, they had to have the intent to prevent the reuniting of families.",
">\n\nIt pains me to think how great this nation could be if the government didnt have to spend time and resources fixing the things republican admins did",
">\n\nIt's such an insane cycle. Conservatives fuck shit up, Dems finally get back in and spend the entire time fixing shit, conservatives run on \"look, they didn't make anything better!\", get back in to fuck shit up. Rinse and repeat.",
">\n\nExcept Dems (if they actually focus on it) are usually only able to fix 70ish% of the budgetary and humanitarian issues that were cause by the previous administration. Then when they lose reelection we slip further backwards.",
">\n\nWhat do you mean if?",
">\n\nIf they focus on repairing damage instead of squabbling with each other (which happens a lot).",
">\n\nAs a Mexican immigrant I really appreciate this",
">\n\nI just wish we had received the same support nationwide like BLM did.",
">\n\nOutraged Republicans demand to know why they were not sold to traffickers as they planned.",
">\n\nThink of all that could have been accomplished in the same time with the same effort if we didn't need them to focus on this. Every Democratic administration is hobbled by needing to undo the evils of the Republicans before them. And it doesn't go the other way because it only takes a second to wreck something, but it takes time to do things right.",
">\n\nContrarily to what the aryicle stars, they were not crossing illegaly. They came as asylum seekers, which is legal. Many (all?) of them arrived at official points of entry. These are not people who were arrested crossing the river in the middle of the night (not that it would justify taking their kids in any way).",
">\n\nOf course the Republican subs are silent on this\nFuck trump",
">\n\ngiving them all citizenship and all of their families is the least we could do for what we've done to those kids",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nThey’ll still be traumatized for the rest of their lives. Drug addiction, depression, suicides will plague these children. If there were any justice, the architects of this policy should be charged with crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nTypical go to of Christian nationalists is to steal children.",
">\n\nI guess the conservatives are ok as long it isn't their child or children.",
">\n\nI want to remind everyone here that Trump's ICE not only separated countless children from their parents, they then \"LOST\" them. Trafficked. They trafficked them. But they called them \"lost\". Then, in an absolutely astounding act of evil and affirmation of cruelty, they released the numbers to the public: 1488 lost children.\nYes. That's right. 1488, the same number literal nazis hold sacred.\nThe depth of evil and abuse and violence the right has descended to should be SO MUCH more alarming to more people. In case you think the assertion that the children were trafficked is alarmist please remember when they caught ICE transporting children without paperwork in the dead of night or keeping children in hotels without due process then sending them back to mexico with no transition process so they were essentially homeless.",
">\n\nWow. That is incredibly evil.",
">\n\nThe GOP are the Nazis come again. Time is a flat circle and most of the circle is fascism",
">\n\nNearly 75 percent is better than I expected, and they're still working. One small cause for optimism.",
">\n\nI wouldn't call it a small cause. This is pretty massive, actually following through with fixing this disgusting miscarriage of justice. I remember reading about this stuff happening and thinking that it would have to be a priority for a new administration. Glad it's being handled.",
">\n\nI remember reading this and thinking ‘holy fucking shit’, and my view on USA has not been the same since.\nThe fact Trump still got 70+ million votes after mandating/ordering this policy is insane.",
">\n\nTrump voters tend to be low information. If they even heard about this, they heard someone on Fox/Newsmax/twitter defending it or saying it was fantastic while distorting the truth about it.",
">\n\nI’d like to think they were ignorant, but somehow it all adds up. I can’t let it go.",
">\n\nNot enough, but it’s a start.",
">\n\nCrimes against humanity.",
">\n\nJesus Christ Trump was a disaster, we're just now returning the kids to their parents though?!? The damage we caused will never go away.",
">\n\nOver 2000 were returned during the Trump administration so these are part of the harder to find parents.",
">\n\nSomething tells me this will not be on many news stations tonight.",
">\n\nFinally. This is why I voted in 2020",
">\n\nI will be enraged until the headline reads ALL!",
">\n\nUnfortunately, that might never happen given that the Trump administration managed to lose track of a bunch of them. I wish I was making that up.",
">\n\nHow about the DOJ criminally prosecute the architects and others who had a hand in this heinous crime?",
">\n\n\nAccording to figures released by the Department of Homeland Security, 3,881 children were separated from their families from 2017 to 2021. About 74% of those have been reunited with their families: 2,176 before the task force was created and 689 afterward.\nBut that still leaves nearly 1,000 children. Of those, 148 are in the reunification process. The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children.\n\nUgh, close but not close enough to fixing this mistake.",
">\n\nRemember when the Trump administration claimed that it was impossible to reunite the families?",
">\n\nWhy do we always have to clean up after Republicans? Getting tiresome.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that because the separation policy was specifically designed to deter certain kinds of people from seeking asylum, these kidnappings qualify as a crime against humanity under international law.",
">\n\nA whole bunch of them were trafficked to the upper Midwest to work the overnight shift on meat packing plant floors. It was only uncovered when one of their middle school teachers called CPS because these kids were coming in with severe chemical burns on their hands and arms. And, yes - after working the overnight shift cleaning a meat processing plant floor, these kids were going to school all day. The youngest was 12.",
">\n\nOh no. Just appalling",
">\n\nBecause it’s the right thing to do. Well done. Still going to be a long road toward healing for those poor kids.",
">\n\nI'm still stunned nobody has gone to jail for this and that the US public did not draw the line at this. It is sickening.",
">\n\nWe don’t get credit for fixing our own fuckup",
">\n\nIt is SHAMEFUL how these people were treated.",
">\n\nThat is wonderful news. Trump and his administration were so evil and cruel. I can't imagine how anyone could be so heartless.",
">\n\nHow many of these kids were molested by Trump supporters? Not zero.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to think if Trump was still POTUS, these (and likely many more) kids would still be lost.",
">\n\nNot enough is made over the evil that Trump and Stephen Miller committed during this fiasco. \nObjectively horrific, vile men.",
">\n\nNever forget there was one boy who died in his own vomit for hours before someone checked up on him. My blood still seethes thinking about it.\nHis name was Carlos Gregorio Hernandez Vasquez, he was 16 from Guatemala.",
">\n\nI'm very happy to read this. That said, the fact that this ever happened (and I don't care who it happens under) is disgusting and needs to be completely stopped from happening again.",
">\n\nThis should be much bigger news",
">\n\nHow many years were these kids without their parents in a government camp?",
">\n\nClose to four years.",
">\n\nOh yea I forgot he did this, the absolute sicko",
">\n\nThis is real oppressive fascist shit, my dear Americans. Except those who should hear this either won't read this or don't have a problem with it...",
">\n\nThis probably puts SStephen Miller in the deepest of funks.",
">\n\nGenuinely good news and a step towards righting an intentionally monstrous act.",
">\n\nhow many more are there? how many were raped? how many died?",
">\n\nIt's good to see the nation moving closer to its founding principles.",
">\n\nIf this is true, it’s the only news I heard today that I give a single fuck about. Wow. YES. Keep going. 100% reunification.",
">\n\nThere are still missing children.",
">\n\nTrAnS pEoPlE aRe GrOoMiNg OuR cHiLdReN. No, there not, and your outrage would be more effective if it targeted the POS you voted for.",
">\n\nTrump reign of terror was so barbaric.",
">\n\nThing is. .....Republicans are probably unhappy about this.",
">\n\nThis definitely put a smile on my face! :)",
">\n\nUS reunites nearly 700 kids taken from parents under ~~Trump~~ the republicans.",
">\n\nSomehow trump will take credit for this. He'll say something like how much better he made those parents appreciate their children and the children their parents. Ugh.",
">\n\nbold of you to assume he'll pay any attention at all to them.",
">\n\nHow I fucking wish \"Kids in cages\" never became the misleading rallying cry against Trump when kidnapped children was the more accurate description of what the administration was doing that needed to be stopped immediately.\nHow many times have you seen some galaxy brain talk about how \"Oh nobody says 'kids in cages' anymore now that it's ok Biden is doing it!\" Yeah it was a stupid and inaccurate criticism to begin with, because any kind of policy of detaining people caught trying to cross the border illegally will fit the \"kids in cages\" meme. \nThe entire reason people got mad at Trump beyond the border wall nonsense was because he specifically ordered a family separation policy that was designed to function as a cruel deterrent to immigration. The Obama administration was forced to adopt a family separation policy because courts ruled that minors could not be detained with adults when detained by ICE, but the Trump administration embraced this policy and added on kidnapping and forced separation across the country which resembled human trafficking more than any kind of immigration policy.\nAnd yeah, Biden is reuniting people while still maintaining a policy of not letting anyone cross the border anywhere at any time for any reason. We can talk about the ethics of detaining people caught trying to cross a national border illegally, and we should. But its an entirely separate discussion from whether one should steal their kids and ship them across the country and throw away the records of where they went.",
">\n\nAnother horrifying legacy of the US.",
">\n\nStephen Miller needs to be permanently attached to this heartless decision.",
">\n\nThe damage has been done. It's literally the least we can do is give them their children back.. I can't even believe that sentence needed to be said. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nFinally, someone thought of the children",
">\n\nYet another crime that orange gasbag will never be punished for…",
">\n\nThis chapter of Trump's presidency was truly mask off evil from the party that professes that they are the party of morals and family values. Before this people could argue that they could be afforded the benefit of the doubt. I kind of knew that Republicans were trolls and bad faith actors but then after this I knew that they really have no bottom line with how low they are willing to go. Truly evil what they did to those desperate families and kids when it would have been the easiest thing in the world to just not.",
">\n\nThis is not the same war crime Russia is doing in the Ukraine. It's a completely different war crime.",
">\n\nIt's sad and despicable that this is even necessary.",
">\n\nThis post has about 670 comments. Imagine if every single one of them was a family reunion. Heartbreaking cruelty from the last administration.",
">\n\nThe Trimp administration did a lot terrible things and had plenty of awful, harmful policies. But this is one of those times when it crossed the line into literal evil.",
">\n\nI figured this was happening in the background but damn it's heartbreaking that it's taking this long because of how thoroughly Trump fucked up any semblance of process for the DHS\nLike don't get me wrong, anyone who works for ICE is and always has been a disgusting pig, but they used to be disgusting pigs bound by similar levels of US bureaucracy as the rest of the government",
">\n\nThis was a very good thing to do and the media isn’t talking about it.",
">\n\nThis needs to be bigger news",
">\n\nWhat the hell AP, it was the US under Trump too. Maybe a better headline might have been \"Biden admin reunites nearly 700...\"",
">\n\nOur bad, we did teach the kid to walk and talk, she mostly knows to say “put your hands through the bars” but still.",
">\n\nThis is news I've been waiting 6 years for.",
">\n\nWas Eric one of them?",
">\n\nI will look for you, I will find you and I will reunite you",
">\n\nLike the motherfucking handmaids tale or some shit",
">\n\nIt's nice for the country to be taking a step back towards its ideals.",
">\n\nWhy the fuck is this not plastered all over the news? This was an international outrage for years and now it’s a tiny news story thrown in on a Friday? Whomever is in charge of the WH Press Office should be ashamed.",
">\n\nNot sure what the White House Press Office could do here if outlets simply don't bother pushing the story.",
">\n\nI want to know how many are still separated.\nEverything else is not good enough.",
">\n\nYou will need to do a slight bit of math when reading the article to get the exact number but it as about a thousand remaining to be united.",
">\n\nI feel for these kids (and their parents). Many of them have been sexually assaulted because no one was there to protect them.",
">\n\nGee, Trump reminds me of Hitler for some reason. Does anyone else see a similarity? One redeeming factor is that we all know how Hitler ended up.",
">\n\nIt is a great labor to undo great evils. \nGlad it's being done.",
">\n\nHow many in total were separated? 700 is great, but if there are still 1,000s more this should also be an equal amount of new coverage.",
">\n\nThe exact counts are in the article if you want them.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if the articles were meant to be read.",
">\n\nIt’s a good start",
">\n\nIs trump a Russian spy?\nA global traitor",
">\n\nWhen will the real criminals be put in jail?",
">\n\nvery nice to see this happen and hopefully never happens again.",
">\n\nI pray the remaining children are with US family members. This was an impeachable criminal act by Trump",
">\n\nThis was by far the most evil thing his administration did.",
">\n\nNow seperate Trump from his family.",
">\n\nI mean, damage done. If I was fleeing my home in terror from economic disaster, and the place I ran to stole my fucking kid from me, and I didn’t get them back for three years?…. I mean… that dude is a terrorist now. What is left in his life except to punish this country?",
">\n\nLock him up",
">\n\nSome good news",
">\n\nThis is not enough.",
">\n\nI was kidnapped and separated from one of my parents for a week when I was young. To be separated for such a long time… The shit is going to haunt those kids for the rest of their lives and they will likely hate those who put them through this. I know this firsthand just based how lost I felt in my experience.",
">\n\nSome good news.",
">\n\nOh, well that's good news.",
">\n\nBut I was told in 2016 that Democrats were the same as Republicans.",
">\n\nI know the mods have that thing about being courteous to others blah blah blah, but fuck trump...",
">\n\nYes, but there are still an estimated 1,000 more that they can’t even find yet. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nThe headline shouldn't exist but half the country literally voted for this to happen. It's insane. Ashamed to be an American.",
">\n\nAfter the last child is reunited with family, Melania's \"I don't really care do you\" jacket will be displayed in the Smithsonian.",
">\n\n*Biden administration reunites 700 kids taken from parents under trump",
">\n\nOnly 49,300 to go.",
">\n\nThe Trump administration was monstrous. If there is such a thing as Karma this country has a lot to pay for…",
">\n\nI hope they use this to finally lock up Trump and his goons. This is disgusting and a stain on the US.",
">\n\nThe right thing to do.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\n/r/Orphancrushingmachine",
">\n\nWhy are the Republicans such pieces of shit? The whole fucking Republican Party needs to be done away with permanently.",
">\n\nIts still happening. Reuniting kids is great and all but if the same policies that separated them still exist it doesn't mean anything",
">\n\nbelongs in /r/upliftingnews!",
">\n\nHonestly it baffles me why people see “horrendous injustice addressed after long delay” and say “/r/upliftingnews”. There’s nothing uplifting about this story, everyone should be enraged.",
">\n\nEveryone is enraged all the time about everything and then go to Reddit or Twitter to make comments which does nothing."
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Good. Shame on the previous terroristic administration for the separations in the first place. | [
"The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children. In 30 years from now we will be seeing documentaries about children who suffered permanent psychological damage at the hands of Trumps administration. People will be shocked to learn that the U.S. government focible took these peoples children and intentionally separated them to be cruel.",
">\n\nThe people who supported it will pretend they never knew anything about it and act shocked and disgusted.",
">\n\nThey already are claiming this did not happen or Obama did it or some other nonsense. Let me clear: Trump instituted a policy to forcibly separate children (including infants) from their legal asylum-seekng parents at the border. He did this to be cruel and scare people from coming. His minions then forgot to keep records of who the kids were.",
">\n\nI'd only argue with \"forgot.\" They intentionally didn't keep records so as to make it as difficult as possible to reunite these families. The cruelty was the point. In fact, they outright declared that they were doing this to try to dissuade people from coming to America. \"Try to seek asylum in America and we'll separate you from your kids who you'll never see again!\"",
">\n\n\"The laws are the laws\" = dead giveaway for a fascist. The law is there to serve the people. If it's not serving them, it should be changed.",
">\n\nWhat really gives away the game is politicians supporting and pushing through laws that do not have majority public support - anti-marijuana and abortion come to mind. Also the use of propaganda to try to affect levels of support for certain things.",
">\n\nA piece of legislation is almost always guaranteed to fail if it polls extremely popular with Americans on all sides. It's really sad...",
">\n\nYep, like “80% of Americans support this” and they’re uh… “oh but some discredited propaganda bullshit”. Really gives away who they are truly working for.",
">\n\nNo, they'll have their \"experts\" testify that they're correct. Then you find out the \"expert\" talking about MJ legalization is a LEO and the \"expert\" talking about abortion is a religious leader.",
">\n\nThe people who did this belong on trail for crimes against humanity at the Hague.\nActual consequences? Fuckin' crickets as usual.",
">\n\nReminder that under Bush the US granted itself permission to invade The Hague If an American citizen should ever be tried there.",
">\n\nWe should send Bush to be tried there.",
">\n\nTrump and his henchmen should be charged for these crimes. Of all of Trump's crimes, I think the concentration camps for immigrants and separating immigrants from their children were among the worst. We have to punish them or this will happen again next time they have the presidency.",
">\n\nAmerica doesn't punish Republican crimes.\n\nSource: Jan 6th",
">\n\nThe list of sources is very long.",
">\n\nIt starts at least with the Watergate. GWB never answered to war crimes or to lying to start a war. And Trump pardon the only person charged in the Valery Plane affair.",
">\n\nDidn't Nixon interfere with the peace process in Vietnam, extending the war so his opponent wouldn't get a win right before the election?",
">\n\nYep.",
">\n\nStephen Miller should be in a 6 x 9",
">\n\nAre there any cells smaller than that for that pea brained asshat?",
">\n\nThere’s a box",
">\n\nIf it fits it sits",
">\n\nThis program of separating parents from their children without documentation is going to be remembered in the same way we talk about the Syphilis Study at Tuskegee. Except that was the 1930s.\nOne of these days some of those kids are going to take their pound of flesh out of the United States either legally or violently, and they'll have right on their side.",
">\n\nnah, the fascists will have rewritten history in the US by then. Our kids will never learn about any of it unless we move.",
">\n\nPresident Ron Desantis III will remove it from the national curriculum.",
">\n\nProbably in a governor position he would still have that power",
">\n\nNever forget this was a crime against humanity. Conservatives supported it. Even your so called “moderate conservative friends”\nIf it had been your kid they wouldn’t give a fuck.\nIn 20 years people will call it a stain on our nation. But the sociopaths who enabled it are here right now.",
">\n\nThe sociopaths who enabled it are in a very good position to seize absolute control of our country, too.",
">\n\nDon’t forget that it’s the trump supporters that empowered the sociopaths.",
">\n\nIt boggles my mind how there isn't a bigger deal made of this. They stole kids from their parents. Any time it pops into my head, I'm infuriated. In a just world, Trump and his administration would be harshly punished.",
">\n\nSeriously. It is crime against HUMANITY",
">\n\nDOJ should throw kidnapping charges onto the pile of Trump crimes.",
">\n\nKidnapped. That's called kidnapping.",
">\n\nAbduction, human trafficking, genocide.\nTake your pick.",
">\n\nThis needs to be made into a drama doc, like the recent Jeffrey Dahmer series. I guarantee it would make a compelling story, and if done right, it would reach even strong trump supporters just by virtue of it's entertainment value. \nThis whole debacle was one of the cruelest things the US has done in decades, and it was done with Glee by a mentally unstable maniac and his supporters. The sooner we see it through the lens of history and regret, the better",
">\n\nWe better hurry before the republicans ban all history.",
">\n\nThis is only happening because trump never had a plan to reunite the families.\nFor those in the back. He ripped apart families with NO INTENTION OF THEM EVER BEING REUNITED.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. In order to create a situation like this, they had to have the intent to prevent the reuniting of families.",
">\n\nIt pains me to think how great this nation could be if the government didnt have to spend time and resources fixing the things republican admins did",
">\n\nIt's such an insane cycle. Conservatives fuck shit up, Dems finally get back in and spend the entire time fixing shit, conservatives run on \"look, they didn't make anything better!\", get back in to fuck shit up. Rinse and repeat.",
">\n\nExcept Dems (if they actually focus on it) are usually only able to fix 70ish% of the budgetary and humanitarian issues that were cause by the previous administration. Then when they lose reelection we slip further backwards.",
">\n\nWhat do you mean if?",
">\n\nIf they focus on repairing damage instead of squabbling with each other (which happens a lot).",
">\n\nAs a Mexican immigrant I really appreciate this",
">\n\nI just wish we had received the same support nationwide like BLM did.",
">\n\nOutraged Republicans demand to know why they were not sold to traffickers as they planned.",
">\n\nThink of all that could have been accomplished in the same time with the same effort if we didn't need them to focus on this. Every Democratic administration is hobbled by needing to undo the evils of the Republicans before them. And it doesn't go the other way because it only takes a second to wreck something, but it takes time to do things right.",
">\n\nContrarily to what the aryicle stars, they were not crossing illegaly. They came as asylum seekers, which is legal. Many (all?) of them arrived at official points of entry. These are not people who were arrested crossing the river in the middle of the night (not that it would justify taking their kids in any way).",
">\n\nOf course the Republican subs are silent on this\nFuck trump",
">\n\ngiving them all citizenship and all of their families is the least we could do for what we've done to those kids",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nThey’ll still be traumatized for the rest of their lives. Drug addiction, depression, suicides will plague these children. If there were any justice, the architects of this policy should be charged with crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nTypical go to of Christian nationalists is to steal children.",
">\n\nI guess the conservatives are ok as long it isn't their child or children.",
">\n\nI want to remind everyone here that Trump's ICE not only separated countless children from their parents, they then \"LOST\" them. Trafficked. They trafficked them. But they called them \"lost\". Then, in an absolutely astounding act of evil and affirmation of cruelty, they released the numbers to the public: 1488 lost children.\nYes. That's right. 1488, the same number literal nazis hold sacred.\nThe depth of evil and abuse and violence the right has descended to should be SO MUCH more alarming to more people. In case you think the assertion that the children were trafficked is alarmist please remember when they caught ICE transporting children without paperwork in the dead of night or keeping children in hotels without due process then sending them back to mexico with no transition process so they were essentially homeless.",
">\n\nWow. That is incredibly evil.",
">\n\nThe GOP are the Nazis come again. Time is a flat circle and most of the circle is fascism",
">\n\nNearly 75 percent is better than I expected, and they're still working. One small cause for optimism.",
">\n\nI wouldn't call it a small cause. This is pretty massive, actually following through with fixing this disgusting miscarriage of justice. I remember reading about this stuff happening and thinking that it would have to be a priority for a new administration. Glad it's being handled.",
">\n\nI remember reading this and thinking ‘holy fucking shit’, and my view on USA has not been the same since.\nThe fact Trump still got 70+ million votes after mandating/ordering this policy is insane.",
">\n\nTrump voters tend to be low information. If they even heard about this, they heard someone on Fox/Newsmax/twitter defending it or saying it was fantastic while distorting the truth about it.",
">\n\nI’d like to think they were ignorant, but somehow it all adds up. I can’t let it go.",
">\n\nNot enough, but it’s a start.",
">\n\nCrimes against humanity.",
">\n\nJesus Christ Trump was a disaster, we're just now returning the kids to their parents though?!? The damage we caused will never go away.",
">\n\nOver 2000 were returned during the Trump administration so these are part of the harder to find parents.",
">\n\nSomething tells me this will not be on many news stations tonight.",
">\n\nFinally. This is why I voted in 2020",
">\n\nI will be enraged until the headline reads ALL!",
">\n\nUnfortunately, that might never happen given that the Trump administration managed to lose track of a bunch of them. I wish I was making that up.",
">\n\nHow about the DOJ criminally prosecute the architects and others who had a hand in this heinous crime?",
">\n\n\nAccording to figures released by the Department of Homeland Security, 3,881 children were separated from their families from 2017 to 2021. About 74% of those have been reunited with their families: 2,176 before the task force was created and 689 afterward.\nBut that still leaves nearly 1,000 children. Of those, 148 are in the reunification process. The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children.\n\nUgh, close but not close enough to fixing this mistake.",
">\n\nRemember when the Trump administration claimed that it was impossible to reunite the families?",
">\n\nWhy do we always have to clean up after Republicans? Getting tiresome.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that because the separation policy was specifically designed to deter certain kinds of people from seeking asylum, these kidnappings qualify as a crime against humanity under international law.",
">\n\nA whole bunch of them were trafficked to the upper Midwest to work the overnight shift on meat packing plant floors. It was only uncovered when one of their middle school teachers called CPS because these kids were coming in with severe chemical burns on their hands and arms. And, yes - after working the overnight shift cleaning a meat processing plant floor, these kids were going to school all day. The youngest was 12.",
">\n\nOh no. Just appalling",
">\n\nBecause it’s the right thing to do. Well done. Still going to be a long road toward healing for those poor kids.",
">\n\nI'm still stunned nobody has gone to jail for this and that the US public did not draw the line at this. It is sickening.",
">\n\nWe don’t get credit for fixing our own fuckup",
">\n\nIt is SHAMEFUL how these people were treated.",
">\n\nThat is wonderful news. Trump and his administration were so evil and cruel. I can't imagine how anyone could be so heartless.",
">\n\nHow many of these kids were molested by Trump supporters? Not zero.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to think if Trump was still POTUS, these (and likely many more) kids would still be lost.",
">\n\nNot enough is made over the evil that Trump and Stephen Miller committed during this fiasco. \nObjectively horrific, vile men.",
">\n\nNever forget there was one boy who died in his own vomit for hours before someone checked up on him. My blood still seethes thinking about it.\nHis name was Carlos Gregorio Hernandez Vasquez, he was 16 from Guatemala.",
">\n\nI'm very happy to read this. That said, the fact that this ever happened (and I don't care who it happens under) is disgusting and needs to be completely stopped from happening again.",
">\n\nThis should be much bigger news",
">\n\nHow many years were these kids without their parents in a government camp?",
">\n\nClose to four years.",
">\n\nOh yea I forgot he did this, the absolute sicko",
">\n\nThis is real oppressive fascist shit, my dear Americans. Except those who should hear this either won't read this or don't have a problem with it...",
">\n\nThis probably puts SStephen Miller in the deepest of funks.",
">\n\nGenuinely good news and a step towards righting an intentionally monstrous act.",
">\n\nhow many more are there? how many were raped? how many died?",
">\n\nIt's good to see the nation moving closer to its founding principles.",
">\n\nIf this is true, it’s the only news I heard today that I give a single fuck about. Wow. YES. Keep going. 100% reunification.",
">\n\nThere are still missing children.",
">\n\nTrAnS pEoPlE aRe GrOoMiNg OuR cHiLdReN. No, there not, and your outrage would be more effective if it targeted the POS you voted for.",
">\n\nTrump reign of terror was so barbaric.",
">\n\nThing is. .....Republicans are probably unhappy about this.",
">\n\nThis definitely put a smile on my face! :)",
">\n\nUS reunites nearly 700 kids taken from parents under ~~Trump~~ the republicans.",
">\n\nSomehow trump will take credit for this. He'll say something like how much better he made those parents appreciate their children and the children their parents. Ugh.",
">\n\nbold of you to assume he'll pay any attention at all to them.",
">\n\nHow I fucking wish \"Kids in cages\" never became the misleading rallying cry against Trump when kidnapped children was the more accurate description of what the administration was doing that needed to be stopped immediately.\nHow many times have you seen some galaxy brain talk about how \"Oh nobody says 'kids in cages' anymore now that it's ok Biden is doing it!\" Yeah it was a stupid and inaccurate criticism to begin with, because any kind of policy of detaining people caught trying to cross the border illegally will fit the \"kids in cages\" meme. \nThe entire reason people got mad at Trump beyond the border wall nonsense was because he specifically ordered a family separation policy that was designed to function as a cruel deterrent to immigration. The Obama administration was forced to adopt a family separation policy because courts ruled that minors could not be detained with adults when detained by ICE, but the Trump administration embraced this policy and added on kidnapping and forced separation across the country which resembled human trafficking more than any kind of immigration policy.\nAnd yeah, Biden is reuniting people while still maintaining a policy of not letting anyone cross the border anywhere at any time for any reason. We can talk about the ethics of detaining people caught trying to cross a national border illegally, and we should. But its an entirely separate discussion from whether one should steal their kids and ship them across the country and throw away the records of where they went.",
">\n\nAnother horrifying legacy of the US.",
">\n\nStephen Miller needs to be permanently attached to this heartless decision.",
">\n\nThe damage has been done. It's literally the least we can do is give them their children back.. I can't even believe that sentence needed to be said. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nFinally, someone thought of the children",
">\n\nYet another crime that orange gasbag will never be punished for…",
">\n\nThis chapter of Trump's presidency was truly mask off evil from the party that professes that they are the party of morals and family values. Before this people could argue that they could be afforded the benefit of the doubt. I kind of knew that Republicans were trolls and bad faith actors but then after this I knew that they really have no bottom line with how low they are willing to go. Truly evil what they did to those desperate families and kids when it would have been the easiest thing in the world to just not.",
">\n\nThis is not the same war crime Russia is doing in the Ukraine. It's a completely different war crime.",
">\n\nIt's sad and despicable that this is even necessary.",
">\n\nThis post has about 670 comments. Imagine if every single one of them was a family reunion. Heartbreaking cruelty from the last administration.",
">\n\nThe Trimp administration did a lot terrible things and had plenty of awful, harmful policies. But this is one of those times when it crossed the line into literal evil.",
">\n\nI figured this was happening in the background but damn it's heartbreaking that it's taking this long because of how thoroughly Trump fucked up any semblance of process for the DHS\nLike don't get me wrong, anyone who works for ICE is and always has been a disgusting pig, but they used to be disgusting pigs bound by similar levels of US bureaucracy as the rest of the government",
">\n\nThis was a very good thing to do and the media isn’t talking about it.",
">\n\nThis needs to be bigger news",
">\n\nWhat the hell AP, it was the US under Trump too. Maybe a better headline might have been \"Biden admin reunites nearly 700...\"",
">\n\nOur bad, we did teach the kid to walk and talk, she mostly knows to say “put your hands through the bars” but still.",
">\n\nThis is news I've been waiting 6 years for.",
">\n\nWas Eric one of them?",
">\n\nI will look for you, I will find you and I will reunite you",
">\n\nLike the motherfucking handmaids tale or some shit",
">\n\nIt's nice for the country to be taking a step back towards its ideals.",
">\n\nWhy the fuck is this not plastered all over the news? This was an international outrage for years and now it’s a tiny news story thrown in on a Friday? Whomever is in charge of the WH Press Office should be ashamed.",
">\n\nNot sure what the White House Press Office could do here if outlets simply don't bother pushing the story.",
">\n\nI want to know how many are still separated.\nEverything else is not good enough.",
">\n\nYou will need to do a slight bit of math when reading the article to get the exact number but it as about a thousand remaining to be united.",
">\n\nI feel for these kids (and their parents). Many of them have been sexually assaulted because no one was there to protect them.",
">\n\nGee, Trump reminds me of Hitler for some reason. Does anyone else see a similarity? One redeeming factor is that we all know how Hitler ended up.",
">\n\nIt is a great labor to undo great evils. \nGlad it's being done.",
">\n\nHow many in total were separated? 700 is great, but if there are still 1,000s more this should also be an equal amount of new coverage.",
">\n\nThe exact counts are in the article if you want them.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if the articles were meant to be read.",
">\n\nIt’s a good start",
">\n\nIs trump a Russian spy?\nA global traitor",
">\n\nWhen will the real criminals be put in jail?",
">\n\nvery nice to see this happen and hopefully never happens again.",
">\n\nI pray the remaining children are with US family members. This was an impeachable criminal act by Trump",
">\n\nThis was by far the most evil thing his administration did.",
">\n\nNow seperate Trump from his family.",
">\n\nI mean, damage done. If I was fleeing my home in terror from economic disaster, and the place I ran to stole my fucking kid from me, and I didn’t get them back for three years?…. I mean… that dude is a terrorist now. What is left in his life except to punish this country?",
">\n\nLock him up",
">\n\nSome good news",
">\n\nThis is not enough.",
">\n\nI was kidnapped and separated from one of my parents for a week when I was young. To be separated for such a long time… The shit is going to haunt those kids for the rest of their lives and they will likely hate those who put them through this. I know this firsthand just based how lost I felt in my experience.",
">\n\nSome good news.",
">\n\nOh, well that's good news.",
">\n\nBut I was told in 2016 that Democrats were the same as Republicans.",
">\n\nI know the mods have that thing about being courteous to others blah blah blah, but fuck trump...",
">\n\nYes, but there are still an estimated 1,000 more that they can’t even find yet. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nThe headline shouldn't exist but half the country literally voted for this to happen. It's insane. Ashamed to be an American.",
">\n\nAfter the last child is reunited with family, Melania's \"I don't really care do you\" jacket will be displayed in the Smithsonian.",
">\n\n*Biden administration reunites 700 kids taken from parents under trump",
">\n\nOnly 49,300 to go.",
">\n\nThe Trump administration was monstrous. If there is such a thing as Karma this country has a lot to pay for…",
">\n\nI hope they use this to finally lock up Trump and his goons. This is disgusting and a stain on the US.",
">\n\nThe right thing to do.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\n/r/Orphancrushingmachine",
">\n\nWhy are the Republicans such pieces of shit? The whole fucking Republican Party needs to be done away with permanently.",
">\n\nIts still happening. Reuniting kids is great and all but if the same policies that separated them still exist it doesn't mean anything",
">\n\nbelongs in /r/upliftingnews!",
">\n\nHonestly it baffles me why people see “horrendous injustice addressed after long delay” and say “/r/upliftingnews”. There’s nothing uplifting about this story, everyone should be enraged.",
">\n\nEveryone is enraged all the time about everything and then go to Reddit or Twitter to make comments which does nothing.",
">\n\nAt least enraged people acknowledge the problem. Toxic positivity does less than that."
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But my dad won’t be talking about this.
Only that Biden keeps on sending money to Ukraine and his social security is going to run out.
It’s kind of funny at this point. | [
"The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children. In 30 years from now we will be seeing documentaries about children who suffered permanent psychological damage at the hands of Trumps administration. People will be shocked to learn that the U.S. government focible took these peoples children and intentionally separated them to be cruel.",
">\n\nThe people who supported it will pretend they never knew anything about it and act shocked and disgusted.",
">\n\nThey already are claiming this did not happen or Obama did it or some other nonsense. Let me clear: Trump instituted a policy to forcibly separate children (including infants) from their legal asylum-seekng parents at the border. He did this to be cruel and scare people from coming. His minions then forgot to keep records of who the kids were.",
">\n\nI'd only argue with \"forgot.\" They intentionally didn't keep records so as to make it as difficult as possible to reunite these families. The cruelty was the point. In fact, they outright declared that they were doing this to try to dissuade people from coming to America. \"Try to seek asylum in America and we'll separate you from your kids who you'll never see again!\"",
">\n\n\"The laws are the laws\" = dead giveaway for a fascist. The law is there to serve the people. If it's not serving them, it should be changed.",
">\n\nWhat really gives away the game is politicians supporting and pushing through laws that do not have majority public support - anti-marijuana and abortion come to mind. Also the use of propaganda to try to affect levels of support for certain things.",
">\n\nA piece of legislation is almost always guaranteed to fail if it polls extremely popular with Americans on all sides. It's really sad...",
">\n\nYep, like “80% of Americans support this” and they’re uh… “oh but some discredited propaganda bullshit”. Really gives away who they are truly working for.",
">\n\nNo, they'll have their \"experts\" testify that they're correct. Then you find out the \"expert\" talking about MJ legalization is a LEO and the \"expert\" talking about abortion is a religious leader.",
">\n\nThe people who did this belong on trail for crimes against humanity at the Hague.\nActual consequences? Fuckin' crickets as usual.",
">\n\nReminder that under Bush the US granted itself permission to invade The Hague If an American citizen should ever be tried there.",
">\n\nWe should send Bush to be tried there.",
">\n\nTrump and his henchmen should be charged for these crimes. Of all of Trump's crimes, I think the concentration camps for immigrants and separating immigrants from their children were among the worst. We have to punish them or this will happen again next time they have the presidency.",
">\n\nAmerica doesn't punish Republican crimes.\n\nSource: Jan 6th",
">\n\nThe list of sources is very long.",
">\n\nIt starts at least with the Watergate. GWB never answered to war crimes or to lying to start a war. And Trump pardon the only person charged in the Valery Plane affair.",
">\n\nDidn't Nixon interfere with the peace process in Vietnam, extending the war so his opponent wouldn't get a win right before the election?",
">\n\nYep.",
">\n\nStephen Miller should be in a 6 x 9",
">\n\nAre there any cells smaller than that for that pea brained asshat?",
">\n\nThere’s a box",
">\n\nIf it fits it sits",
">\n\nThis program of separating parents from their children without documentation is going to be remembered in the same way we talk about the Syphilis Study at Tuskegee. Except that was the 1930s.\nOne of these days some of those kids are going to take their pound of flesh out of the United States either legally or violently, and they'll have right on their side.",
">\n\nnah, the fascists will have rewritten history in the US by then. Our kids will never learn about any of it unless we move.",
">\n\nPresident Ron Desantis III will remove it from the national curriculum.",
">\n\nProbably in a governor position he would still have that power",
">\n\nNever forget this was a crime against humanity. Conservatives supported it. Even your so called “moderate conservative friends”\nIf it had been your kid they wouldn’t give a fuck.\nIn 20 years people will call it a stain on our nation. But the sociopaths who enabled it are here right now.",
">\n\nThe sociopaths who enabled it are in a very good position to seize absolute control of our country, too.",
">\n\nDon’t forget that it’s the trump supporters that empowered the sociopaths.",
">\n\nIt boggles my mind how there isn't a bigger deal made of this. They stole kids from their parents. Any time it pops into my head, I'm infuriated. In a just world, Trump and his administration would be harshly punished.",
">\n\nSeriously. It is crime against HUMANITY",
">\n\nDOJ should throw kidnapping charges onto the pile of Trump crimes.",
">\n\nKidnapped. That's called kidnapping.",
">\n\nAbduction, human trafficking, genocide.\nTake your pick.",
">\n\nThis needs to be made into a drama doc, like the recent Jeffrey Dahmer series. I guarantee it would make a compelling story, and if done right, it would reach even strong trump supporters just by virtue of it's entertainment value. \nThis whole debacle was one of the cruelest things the US has done in decades, and it was done with Glee by a mentally unstable maniac and his supporters. The sooner we see it through the lens of history and regret, the better",
">\n\nWe better hurry before the republicans ban all history.",
">\n\nThis is only happening because trump never had a plan to reunite the families.\nFor those in the back. He ripped apart families with NO INTENTION OF THEM EVER BEING REUNITED.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. In order to create a situation like this, they had to have the intent to prevent the reuniting of families.",
">\n\nIt pains me to think how great this nation could be if the government didnt have to spend time and resources fixing the things republican admins did",
">\n\nIt's such an insane cycle. Conservatives fuck shit up, Dems finally get back in and spend the entire time fixing shit, conservatives run on \"look, they didn't make anything better!\", get back in to fuck shit up. Rinse and repeat.",
">\n\nExcept Dems (if they actually focus on it) are usually only able to fix 70ish% of the budgetary and humanitarian issues that were cause by the previous administration. Then when they lose reelection we slip further backwards.",
">\n\nWhat do you mean if?",
">\n\nIf they focus on repairing damage instead of squabbling with each other (which happens a lot).",
">\n\nAs a Mexican immigrant I really appreciate this",
">\n\nI just wish we had received the same support nationwide like BLM did.",
">\n\nOutraged Republicans demand to know why they were not sold to traffickers as they planned.",
">\n\nThink of all that could have been accomplished in the same time with the same effort if we didn't need them to focus on this. Every Democratic administration is hobbled by needing to undo the evils of the Republicans before them. And it doesn't go the other way because it only takes a second to wreck something, but it takes time to do things right.",
">\n\nContrarily to what the aryicle stars, they were not crossing illegaly. They came as asylum seekers, which is legal. Many (all?) of them arrived at official points of entry. These are not people who were arrested crossing the river in the middle of the night (not that it would justify taking their kids in any way).",
">\n\nOf course the Republican subs are silent on this\nFuck trump",
">\n\ngiving them all citizenship and all of their families is the least we could do for what we've done to those kids",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nThey’ll still be traumatized for the rest of their lives. Drug addiction, depression, suicides will plague these children. If there were any justice, the architects of this policy should be charged with crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nTypical go to of Christian nationalists is to steal children.",
">\n\nI guess the conservatives are ok as long it isn't their child or children.",
">\n\nI want to remind everyone here that Trump's ICE not only separated countless children from their parents, they then \"LOST\" them. Trafficked. They trafficked them. But they called them \"lost\". Then, in an absolutely astounding act of evil and affirmation of cruelty, they released the numbers to the public: 1488 lost children.\nYes. That's right. 1488, the same number literal nazis hold sacred.\nThe depth of evil and abuse and violence the right has descended to should be SO MUCH more alarming to more people. In case you think the assertion that the children were trafficked is alarmist please remember when they caught ICE transporting children without paperwork in the dead of night or keeping children in hotels without due process then sending them back to mexico with no transition process so they were essentially homeless.",
">\n\nWow. That is incredibly evil.",
">\n\nThe GOP are the Nazis come again. Time is a flat circle and most of the circle is fascism",
">\n\nNearly 75 percent is better than I expected, and they're still working. One small cause for optimism.",
">\n\nI wouldn't call it a small cause. This is pretty massive, actually following through with fixing this disgusting miscarriage of justice. I remember reading about this stuff happening and thinking that it would have to be a priority for a new administration. Glad it's being handled.",
">\n\nI remember reading this and thinking ‘holy fucking shit’, and my view on USA has not been the same since.\nThe fact Trump still got 70+ million votes after mandating/ordering this policy is insane.",
">\n\nTrump voters tend to be low information. If they even heard about this, they heard someone on Fox/Newsmax/twitter defending it or saying it was fantastic while distorting the truth about it.",
">\n\nI’d like to think they were ignorant, but somehow it all adds up. I can’t let it go.",
">\n\nNot enough, but it’s a start.",
">\n\nCrimes against humanity.",
">\n\nJesus Christ Trump was a disaster, we're just now returning the kids to their parents though?!? The damage we caused will never go away.",
">\n\nOver 2000 were returned during the Trump administration so these are part of the harder to find parents.",
">\n\nSomething tells me this will not be on many news stations tonight.",
">\n\nFinally. This is why I voted in 2020",
">\n\nI will be enraged until the headline reads ALL!",
">\n\nUnfortunately, that might never happen given that the Trump administration managed to lose track of a bunch of them. I wish I was making that up.",
">\n\nHow about the DOJ criminally prosecute the architects and others who had a hand in this heinous crime?",
">\n\n\nAccording to figures released by the Department of Homeland Security, 3,881 children were separated from their families from 2017 to 2021. About 74% of those have been reunited with their families: 2,176 before the task force was created and 689 afterward.\nBut that still leaves nearly 1,000 children. Of those, 148 are in the reunification process. The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children.\n\nUgh, close but not close enough to fixing this mistake.",
">\n\nRemember when the Trump administration claimed that it was impossible to reunite the families?",
">\n\nWhy do we always have to clean up after Republicans? Getting tiresome.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that because the separation policy was specifically designed to deter certain kinds of people from seeking asylum, these kidnappings qualify as a crime against humanity under international law.",
">\n\nA whole bunch of them were trafficked to the upper Midwest to work the overnight shift on meat packing plant floors. It was only uncovered when one of their middle school teachers called CPS because these kids were coming in with severe chemical burns on their hands and arms. And, yes - after working the overnight shift cleaning a meat processing plant floor, these kids were going to school all day. The youngest was 12.",
">\n\nOh no. Just appalling",
">\n\nBecause it’s the right thing to do. Well done. Still going to be a long road toward healing for those poor kids.",
">\n\nI'm still stunned nobody has gone to jail for this and that the US public did not draw the line at this. It is sickening.",
">\n\nWe don’t get credit for fixing our own fuckup",
">\n\nIt is SHAMEFUL how these people were treated.",
">\n\nThat is wonderful news. Trump and his administration were so evil and cruel. I can't imagine how anyone could be so heartless.",
">\n\nHow many of these kids were molested by Trump supporters? Not zero.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to think if Trump was still POTUS, these (and likely many more) kids would still be lost.",
">\n\nNot enough is made over the evil that Trump and Stephen Miller committed during this fiasco. \nObjectively horrific, vile men.",
">\n\nNever forget there was one boy who died in his own vomit for hours before someone checked up on him. My blood still seethes thinking about it.\nHis name was Carlos Gregorio Hernandez Vasquez, he was 16 from Guatemala.",
">\n\nI'm very happy to read this. That said, the fact that this ever happened (and I don't care who it happens under) is disgusting and needs to be completely stopped from happening again.",
">\n\nThis should be much bigger news",
">\n\nHow many years were these kids without their parents in a government camp?",
">\n\nClose to four years.",
">\n\nOh yea I forgot he did this, the absolute sicko",
">\n\nThis is real oppressive fascist shit, my dear Americans. Except those who should hear this either won't read this or don't have a problem with it...",
">\n\nThis probably puts SStephen Miller in the deepest of funks.",
">\n\nGenuinely good news and a step towards righting an intentionally monstrous act.",
">\n\nhow many more are there? how many were raped? how many died?",
">\n\nIt's good to see the nation moving closer to its founding principles.",
">\n\nIf this is true, it’s the only news I heard today that I give a single fuck about. Wow. YES. Keep going. 100% reunification.",
">\n\nThere are still missing children.",
">\n\nTrAnS pEoPlE aRe GrOoMiNg OuR cHiLdReN. No, there not, and your outrage would be more effective if it targeted the POS you voted for.",
">\n\nTrump reign of terror was so barbaric.",
">\n\nThing is. .....Republicans are probably unhappy about this.",
">\n\nThis definitely put a smile on my face! :)",
">\n\nUS reunites nearly 700 kids taken from parents under ~~Trump~~ the republicans.",
">\n\nSomehow trump will take credit for this. He'll say something like how much better he made those parents appreciate their children and the children their parents. Ugh.",
">\n\nbold of you to assume he'll pay any attention at all to them.",
">\n\nHow I fucking wish \"Kids in cages\" never became the misleading rallying cry against Trump when kidnapped children was the more accurate description of what the administration was doing that needed to be stopped immediately.\nHow many times have you seen some galaxy brain talk about how \"Oh nobody says 'kids in cages' anymore now that it's ok Biden is doing it!\" Yeah it was a stupid and inaccurate criticism to begin with, because any kind of policy of detaining people caught trying to cross the border illegally will fit the \"kids in cages\" meme. \nThe entire reason people got mad at Trump beyond the border wall nonsense was because he specifically ordered a family separation policy that was designed to function as a cruel deterrent to immigration. The Obama administration was forced to adopt a family separation policy because courts ruled that minors could not be detained with adults when detained by ICE, but the Trump administration embraced this policy and added on kidnapping and forced separation across the country which resembled human trafficking more than any kind of immigration policy.\nAnd yeah, Biden is reuniting people while still maintaining a policy of not letting anyone cross the border anywhere at any time for any reason. We can talk about the ethics of detaining people caught trying to cross a national border illegally, and we should. But its an entirely separate discussion from whether one should steal their kids and ship them across the country and throw away the records of where they went.",
">\n\nAnother horrifying legacy of the US.",
">\n\nStephen Miller needs to be permanently attached to this heartless decision.",
">\n\nThe damage has been done. It's literally the least we can do is give them their children back.. I can't even believe that sentence needed to be said. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nFinally, someone thought of the children",
">\n\nYet another crime that orange gasbag will never be punished for…",
">\n\nThis chapter of Trump's presidency was truly mask off evil from the party that professes that they are the party of morals and family values. Before this people could argue that they could be afforded the benefit of the doubt. I kind of knew that Republicans were trolls and bad faith actors but then after this I knew that they really have no bottom line with how low they are willing to go. Truly evil what they did to those desperate families and kids when it would have been the easiest thing in the world to just not.",
">\n\nThis is not the same war crime Russia is doing in the Ukraine. It's a completely different war crime.",
">\n\nIt's sad and despicable that this is even necessary.",
">\n\nThis post has about 670 comments. Imagine if every single one of them was a family reunion. Heartbreaking cruelty from the last administration.",
">\n\nThe Trimp administration did a lot terrible things and had plenty of awful, harmful policies. But this is one of those times when it crossed the line into literal evil.",
">\n\nI figured this was happening in the background but damn it's heartbreaking that it's taking this long because of how thoroughly Trump fucked up any semblance of process for the DHS\nLike don't get me wrong, anyone who works for ICE is and always has been a disgusting pig, but they used to be disgusting pigs bound by similar levels of US bureaucracy as the rest of the government",
">\n\nThis was a very good thing to do and the media isn’t talking about it.",
">\n\nThis needs to be bigger news",
">\n\nWhat the hell AP, it was the US under Trump too. Maybe a better headline might have been \"Biden admin reunites nearly 700...\"",
">\n\nOur bad, we did teach the kid to walk and talk, she mostly knows to say “put your hands through the bars” but still.",
">\n\nThis is news I've been waiting 6 years for.",
">\n\nWas Eric one of them?",
">\n\nI will look for you, I will find you and I will reunite you",
">\n\nLike the motherfucking handmaids tale or some shit",
">\n\nIt's nice for the country to be taking a step back towards its ideals.",
">\n\nWhy the fuck is this not plastered all over the news? This was an international outrage for years and now it’s a tiny news story thrown in on a Friday? Whomever is in charge of the WH Press Office should be ashamed.",
">\n\nNot sure what the White House Press Office could do here if outlets simply don't bother pushing the story.",
">\n\nI want to know how many are still separated.\nEverything else is not good enough.",
">\n\nYou will need to do a slight bit of math when reading the article to get the exact number but it as about a thousand remaining to be united.",
">\n\nI feel for these kids (and their parents). Many of them have been sexually assaulted because no one was there to protect them.",
">\n\nGee, Trump reminds me of Hitler for some reason. Does anyone else see a similarity? One redeeming factor is that we all know how Hitler ended up.",
">\n\nIt is a great labor to undo great evils. \nGlad it's being done.",
">\n\nHow many in total were separated? 700 is great, but if there are still 1,000s more this should also be an equal amount of new coverage.",
">\n\nThe exact counts are in the article if you want them.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if the articles were meant to be read.",
">\n\nIt’s a good start",
">\n\nIs trump a Russian spy?\nA global traitor",
">\n\nWhen will the real criminals be put in jail?",
">\n\nvery nice to see this happen and hopefully never happens again.",
">\n\nI pray the remaining children are with US family members. This was an impeachable criminal act by Trump",
">\n\nThis was by far the most evil thing his administration did.",
">\n\nNow seperate Trump from his family.",
">\n\nI mean, damage done. If I was fleeing my home in terror from economic disaster, and the place I ran to stole my fucking kid from me, and I didn’t get them back for three years?…. I mean… that dude is a terrorist now. What is left in his life except to punish this country?",
">\n\nLock him up",
">\n\nSome good news",
">\n\nThis is not enough.",
">\n\nI was kidnapped and separated from one of my parents for a week when I was young. To be separated for such a long time… The shit is going to haunt those kids for the rest of their lives and they will likely hate those who put them through this. I know this firsthand just based how lost I felt in my experience.",
">\n\nSome good news.",
">\n\nOh, well that's good news.",
">\n\nBut I was told in 2016 that Democrats were the same as Republicans.",
">\n\nI know the mods have that thing about being courteous to others blah blah blah, but fuck trump...",
">\n\nYes, but there are still an estimated 1,000 more that they can’t even find yet. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nThe headline shouldn't exist but half the country literally voted for this to happen. It's insane. Ashamed to be an American.",
">\n\nAfter the last child is reunited with family, Melania's \"I don't really care do you\" jacket will be displayed in the Smithsonian.",
">\n\n*Biden administration reunites 700 kids taken from parents under trump",
">\n\nOnly 49,300 to go.",
">\n\nThe Trump administration was monstrous. If there is such a thing as Karma this country has a lot to pay for…",
">\n\nI hope they use this to finally lock up Trump and his goons. This is disgusting and a stain on the US.",
">\n\nThe right thing to do.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\n/r/Orphancrushingmachine",
">\n\nWhy are the Republicans such pieces of shit? The whole fucking Republican Party needs to be done away with permanently.",
">\n\nIts still happening. Reuniting kids is great and all but if the same policies that separated them still exist it doesn't mean anything",
">\n\nbelongs in /r/upliftingnews!",
">\n\nHonestly it baffles me why people see “horrendous injustice addressed after long delay” and say “/r/upliftingnews”. There’s nothing uplifting about this story, everyone should be enraged.",
">\n\nEveryone is enraged all the time about everything and then go to Reddit or Twitter to make comments which does nothing.",
">\n\nAt least enraged people acknowledge the problem. Toxic positivity does less than that.",
">\n\nGood. Shame on the previous terroristic administration for the separations in the first place."
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"The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children. In 30 years from now we will be seeing documentaries about children who suffered permanent psychological damage at the hands of Trumps administration. People will be shocked to learn that the U.S. government focible took these peoples children and intentionally separated them to be cruel.",
">\n\nThe people who supported it will pretend they never knew anything about it and act shocked and disgusted.",
">\n\nThey already are claiming this did not happen or Obama did it or some other nonsense. Let me clear: Trump instituted a policy to forcibly separate children (including infants) from their legal asylum-seekng parents at the border. He did this to be cruel and scare people from coming. His minions then forgot to keep records of who the kids were.",
">\n\nI'd only argue with \"forgot.\" They intentionally didn't keep records so as to make it as difficult as possible to reunite these families. The cruelty was the point. In fact, they outright declared that they were doing this to try to dissuade people from coming to America. \"Try to seek asylum in America and we'll separate you from your kids who you'll never see again!\"",
">\n\n\"The laws are the laws\" = dead giveaway for a fascist. The law is there to serve the people. If it's not serving them, it should be changed.",
">\n\nWhat really gives away the game is politicians supporting and pushing through laws that do not have majority public support - anti-marijuana and abortion come to mind. Also the use of propaganda to try to affect levels of support for certain things.",
">\n\nA piece of legislation is almost always guaranteed to fail if it polls extremely popular with Americans on all sides. It's really sad...",
">\n\nYep, like “80% of Americans support this” and they’re uh… “oh but some discredited propaganda bullshit”. Really gives away who they are truly working for.",
">\n\nNo, they'll have their \"experts\" testify that they're correct. Then you find out the \"expert\" talking about MJ legalization is a LEO and the \"expert\" talking about abortion is a religious leader.",
">\n\nThe people who did this belong on trail for crimes against humanity at the Hague.\nActual consequences? Fuckin' crickets as usual.",
">\n\nReminder that under Bush the US granted itself permission to invade The Hague If an American citizen should ever be tried there.",
">\n\nWe should send Bush to be tried there.",
">\n\nTrump and his henchmen should be charged for these crimes. Of all of Trump's crimes, I think the concentration camps for immigrants and separating immigrants from their children were among the worst. We have to punish them or this will happen again next time they have the presidency.",
">\n\nAmerica doesn't punish Republican crimes.\n\nSource: Jan 6th",
">\n\nThe list of sources is very long.",
">\n\nIt starts at least with the Watergate. GWB never answered to war crimes or to lying to start a war. And Trump pardon the only person charged in the Valery Plane affair.",
">\n\nDidn't Nixon interfere with the peace process in Vietnam, extending the war so his opponent wouldn't get a win right before the election?",
">\n\nYep.",
">\n\nStephen Miller should be in a 6 x 9",
">\n\nAre there any cells smaller than that for that pea brained asshat?",
">\n\nThere’s a box",
">\n\nIf it fits it sits",
">\n\nThis program of separating parents from their children without documentation is going to be remembered in the same way we talk about the Syphilis Study at Tuskegee. Except that was the 1930s.\nOne of these days some of those kids are going to take their pound of flesh out of the United States either legally or violently, and they'll have right on their side.",
">\n\nnah, the fascists will have rewritten history in the US by then. Our kids will never learn about any of it unless we move.",
">\n\nPresident Ron Desantis III will remove it from the national curriculum.",
">\n\nProbably in a governor position he would still have that power",
">\n\nNever forget this was a crime against humanity. Conservatives supported it. Even your so called “moderate conservative friends”\nIf it had been your kid they wouldn’t give a fuck.\nIn 20 years people will call it a stain on our nation. But the sociopaths who enabled it are here right now.",
">\n\nThe sociopaths who enabled it are in a very good position to seize absolute control of our country, too.",
">\n\nDon’t forget that it’s the trump supporters that empowered the sociopaths.",
">\n\nIt boggles my mind how there isn't a bigger deal made of this. They stole kids from their parents. Any time it pops into my head, I'm infuriated. In a just world, Trump and his administration would be harshly punished.",
">\n\nSeriously. It is crime against HUMANITY",
">\n\nDOJ should throw kidnapping charges onto the pile of Trump crimes.",
">\n\nKidnapped. That's called kidnapping.",
">\n\nAbduction, human trafficking, genocide.\nTake your pick.",
">\n\nThis needs to be made into a drama doc, like the recent Jeffrey Dahmer series. I guarantee it would make a compelling story, and if done right, it would reach even strong trump supporters just by virtue of it's entertainment value. \nThis whole debacle was one of the cruelest things the US has done in decades, and it was done with Glee by a mentally unstable maniac and his supporters. The sooner we see it through the lens of history and regret, the better",
">\n\nWe better hurry before the republicans ban all history.",
">\n\nThis is only happening because trump never had a plan to reunite the families.\nFor those in the back. He ripped apart families with NO INTENTION OF THEM EVER BEING REUNITED.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. In order to create a situation like this, they had to have the intent to prevent the reuniting of families.",
">\n\nIt pains me to think how great this nation could be if the government didnt have to spend time and resources fixing the things republican admins did",
">\n\nIt's such an insane cycle. Conservatives fuck shit up, Dems finally get back in and spend the entire time fixing shit, conservatives run on \"look, they didn't make anything better!\", get back in to fuck shit up. Rinse and repeat.",
">\n\nExcept Dems (if they actually focus on it) are usually only able to fix 70ish% of the budgetary and humanitarian issues that were cause by the previous administration. Then when they lose reelection we slip further backwards.",
">\n\nWhat do you mean if?",
">\n\nIf they focus on repairing damage instead of squabbling with each other (which happens a lot).",
">\n\nAs a Mexican immigrant I really appreciate this",
">\n\nI just wish we had received the same support nationwide like BLM did.",
">\n\nOutraged Republicans demand to know why they were not sold to traffickers as they planned.",
">\n\nThink of all that could have been accomplished in the same time with the same effort if we didn't need them to focus on this. Every Democratic administration is hobbled by needing to undo the evils of the Republicans before them. And it doesn't go the other way because it only takes a second to wreck something, but it takes time to do things right.",
">\n\nContrarily to what the aryicle stars, they were not crossing illegaly. They came as asylum seekers, which is legal. Many (all?) of them arrived at official points of entry. These are not people who were arrested crossing the river in the middle of the night (not that it would justify taking their kids in any way).",
">\n\nOf course the Republican subs are silent on this\nFuck trump",
">\n\ngiving them all citizenship and all of their families is the least we could do for what we've done to those kids",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nThey’ll still be traumatized for the rest of their lives. Drug addiction, depression, suicides will plague these children. If there were any justice, the architects of this policy should be charged with crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nTypical go to of Christian nationalists is to steal children.",
">\n\nI guess the conservatives are ok as long it isn't their child or children.",
">\n\nI want to remind everyone here that Trump's ICE not only separated countless children from their parents, they then \"LOST\" them. Trafficked. They trafficked them. But they called them \"lost\". Then, in an absolutely astounding act of evil and affirmation of cruelty, they released the numbers to the public: 1488 lost children.\nYes. That's right. 1488, the same number literal nazis hold sacred.\nThe depth of evil and abuse and violence the right has descended to should be SO MUCH more alarming to more people. In case you think the assertion that the children were trafficked is alarmist please remember when they caught ICE transporting children without paperwork in the dead of night or keeping children in hotels without due process then sending them back to mexico with no transition process so they were essentially homeless.",
">\n\nWow. That is incredibly evil.",
">\n\nThe GOP are the Nazis come again. Time is a flat circle and most of the circle is fascism",
">\n\nNearly 75 percent is better than I expected, and they're still working. One small cause for optimism.",
">\n\nI wouldn't call it a small cause. This is pretty massive, actually following through with fixing this disgusting miscarriage of justice. I remember reading about this stuff happening and thinking that it would have to be a priority for a new administration. Glad it's being handled.",
">\n\nI remember reading this and thinking ‘holy fucking shit’, and my view on USA has not been the same since.\nThe fact Trump still got 70+ million votes after mandating/ordering this policy is insane.",
">\n\nTrump voters tend to be low information. If they even heard about this, they heard someone on Fox/Newsmax/twitter defending it or saying it was fantastic while distorting the truth about it.",
">\n\nI’d like to think they were ignorant, but somehow it all adds up. I can’t let it go.",
">\n\nNot enough, but it’s a start.",
">\n\nCrimes against humanity.",
">\n\nJesus Christ Trump was a disaster, we're just now returning the kids to their parents though?!? The damage we caused will never go away.",
">\n\nOver 2000 were returned during the Trump administration so these are part of the harder to find parents.",
">\n\nSomething tells me this will not be on many news stations tonight.",
">\n\nFinally. This is why I voted in 2020",
">\n\nI will be enraged until the headline reads ALL!",
">\n\nUnfortunately, that might never happen given that the Trump administration managed to lose track of a bunch of them. I wish I was making that up.",
">\n\nHow about the DOJ criminally prosecute the architects and others who had a hand in this heinous crime?",
">\n\n\nAccording to figures released by the Department of Homeland Security, 3,881 children were separated from their families from 2017 to 2021. About 74% of those have been reunited with their families: 2,176 before the task force was created and 689 afterward.\nBut that still leaves nearly 1,000 children. Of those, 148 are in the reunification process. The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children.\n\nUgh, close but not close enough to fixing this mistake.",
">\n\nRemember when the Trump administration claimed that it was impossible to reunite the families?",
">\n\nWhy do we always have to clean up after Republicans? Getting tiresome.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that because the separation policy was specifically designed to deter certain kinds of people from seeking asylum, these kidnappings qualify as a crime against humanity under international law.",
">\n\nA whole bunch of them were trafficked to the upper Midwest to work the overnight shift on meat packing plant floors. It was only uncovered when one of their middle school teachers called CPS because these kids were coming in with severe chemical burns on their hands and arms. And, yes - after working the overnight shift cleaning a meat processing plant floor, these kids were going to school all day. The youngest was 12.",
">\n\nOh no. Just appalling",
">\n\nBecause it’s the right thing to do. Well done. Still going to be a long road toward healing for those poor kids.",
">\n\nI'm still stunned nobody has gone to jail for this and that the US public did not draw the line at this. It is sickening.",
">\n\nWe don’t get credit for fixing our own fuckup",
">\n\nIt is SHAMEFUL how these people were treated.",
">\n\nThat is wonderful news. Trump and his administration were so evil and cruel. I can't imagine how anyone could be so heartless.",
">\n\nHow many of these kids were molested by Trump supporters? Not zero.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to think if Trump was still POTUS, these (and likely many more) kids would still be lost.",
">\n\nNot enough is made over the evil that Trump and Stephen Miller committed during this fiasco. \nObjectively horrific, vile men.",
">\n\nNever forget there was one boy who died in his own vomit for hours before someone checked up on him. My blood still seethes thinking about it.\nHis name was Carlos Gregorio Hernandez Vasquez, he was 16 from Guatemala.",
">\n\nI'm very happy to read this. That said, the fact that this ever happened (and I don't care who it happens under) is disgusting and needs to be completely stopped from happening again.",
">\n\nThis should be much bigger news",
">\n\nHow many years were these kids without their parents in a government camp?",
">\n\nClose to four years.",
">\n\nOh yea I forgot he did this, the absolute sicko",
">\n\nThis is real oppressive fascist shit, my dear Americans. Except those who should hear this either won't read this or don't have a problem with it...",
">\n\nThis probably puts SStephen Miller in the deepest of funks.",
">\n\nGenuinely good news and a step towards righting an intentionally monstrous act.",
">\n\nhow many more are there? how many were raped? how many died?",
">\n\nIt's good to see the nation moving closer to its founding principles.",
">\n\nIf this is true, it’s the only news I heard today that I give a single fuck about. Wow. YES. Keep going. 100% reunification.",
">\n\nThere are still missing children.",
">\n\nTrAnS pEoPlE aRe GrOoMiNg OuR cHiLdReN. No, there not, and your outrage would be more effective if it targeted the POS you voted for.",
">\n\nTrump reign of terror was so barbaric.",
">\n\nThing is. .....Republicans are probably unhappy about this.",
">\n\nThis definitely put a smile on my face! :)",
">\n\nUS reunites nearly 700 kids taken from parents under ~~Trump~~ the republicans.",
">\n\nSomehow trump will take credit for this. He'll say something like how much better he made those parents appreciate their children and the children their parents. Ugh.",
">\n\nbold of you to assume he'll pay any attention at all to them.",
">\n\nHow I fucking wish \"Kids in cages\" never became the misleading rallying cry against Trump when kidnapped children was the more accurate description of what the administration was doing that needed to be stopped immediately.\nHow many times have you seen some galaxy brain talk about how \"Oh nobody says 'kids in cages' anymore now that it's ok Biden is doing it!\" Yeah it was a stupid and inaccurate criticism to begin with, because any kind of policy of detaining people caught trying to cross the border illegally will fit the \"kids in cages\" meme. \nThe entire reason people got mad at Trump beyond the border wall nonsense was because he specifically ordered a family separation policy that was designed to function as a cruel deterrent to immigration. The Obama administration was forced to adopt a family separation policy because courts ruled that minors could not be detained with adults when detained by ICE, but the Trump administration embraced this policy and added on kidnapping and forced separation across the country which resembled human trafficking more than any kind of immigration policy.\nAnd yeah, Biden is reuniting people while still maintaining a policy of not letting anyone cross the border anywhere at any time for any reason. We can talk about the ethics of detaining people caught trying to cross a national border illegally, and we should. But its an entirely separate discussion from whether one should steal their kids and ship them across the country and throw away the records of where they went.",
">\n\nAnother horrifying legacy of the US.",
">\n\nStephen Miller needs to be permanently attached to this heartless decision.",
">\n\nThe damage has been done. It's literally the least we can do is give them their children back.. I can't even believe that sentence needed to be said. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nFinally, someone thought of the children",
">\n\nYet another crime that orange gasbag will never be punished for…",
">\n\nThis chapter of Trump's presidency was truly mask off evil from the party that professes that they are the party of morals and family values. Before this people could argue that they could be afforded the benefit of the doubt. I kind of knew that Republicans were trolls and bad faith actors but then after this I knew that they really have no bottom line with how low they are willing to go. Truly evil what they did to those desperate families and kids when it would have been the easiest thing in the world to just not.",
">\n\nThis is not the same war crime Russia is doing in the Ukraine. It's a completely different war crime.",
">\n\nIt's sad and despicable that this is even necessary.",
">\n\nThis post has about 670 comments. Imagine if every single one of them was a family reunion. Heartbreaking cruelty from the last administration.",
">\n\nThe Trimp administration did a lot terrible things and had plenty of awful, harmful policies. But this is one of those times when it crossed the line into literal evil.",
">\n\nI figured this was happening in the background but damn it's heartbreaking that it's taking this long because of how thoroughly Trump fucked up any semblance of process for the DHS\nLike don't get me wrong, anyone who works for ICE is and always has been a disgusting pig, but they used to be disgusting pigs bound by similar levels of US bureaucracy as the rest of the government",
">\n\nThis was a very good thing to do and the media isn’t talking about it.",
">\n\nThis needs to be bigger news",
">\n\nWhat the hell AP, it was the US under Trump too. Maybe a better headline might have been \"Biden admin reunites nearly 700...\"",
">\n\nOur bad, we did teach the kid to walk and talk, she mostly knows to say “put your hands through the bars” but still.",
">\n\nThis is news I've been waiting 6 years for.",
">\n\nWas Eric one of them?",
">\n\nI will look for you, I will find you and I will reunite you",
">\n\nLike the motherfucking handmaids tale or some shit",
">\n\nIt's nice for the country to be taking a step back towards its ideals.",
">\n\nWhy the fuck is this not plastered all over the news? This was an international outrage for years and now it’s a tiny news story thrown in on a Friday? Whomever is in charge of the WH Press Office should be ashamed.",
">\n\nNot sure what the White House Press Office could do here if outlets simply don't bother pushing the story.",
">\n\nI want to know how many are still separated.\nEverything else is not good enough.",
">\n\nYou will need to do a slight bit of math when reading the article to get the exact number but it as about a thousand remaining to be united.",
">\n\nI feel for these kids (and their parents). Many of them have been sexually assaulted because no one was there to protect them.",
">\n\nGee, Trump reminds me of Hitler for some reason. Does anyone else see a similarity? One redeeming factor is that we all know how Hitler ended up.",
">\n\nIt is a great labor to undo great evils. \nGlad it's being done.",
">\n\nHow many in total were separated? 700 is great, but if there are still 1,000s more this should also be an equal amount of new coverage.",
">\n\nThe exact counts are in the article if you want them.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if the articles were meant to be read.",
">\n\nIt’s a good start",
">\n\nIs trump a Russian spy?\nA global traitor",
">\n\nWhen will the real criminals be put in jail?",
">\n\nvery nice to see this happen and hopefully never happens again.",
">\n\nI pray the remaining children are with US family members. This was an impeachable criminal act by Trump",
">\n\nThis was by far the most evil thing his administration did.",
">\n\nNow seperate Trump from his family.",
">\n\nI mean, damage done. If I was fleeing my home in terror from economic disaster, and the place I ran to stole my fucking kid from me, and I didn’t get them back for three years?…. I mean… that dude is a terrorist now. What is left in his life except to punish this country?",
">\n\nLock him up",
">\n\nSome good news",
">\n\nThis is not enough.",
">\n\nI was kidnapped and separated from one of my parents for a week when I was young. To be separated for such a long time… The shit is going to haunt those kids for the rest of their lives and they will likely hate those who put them through this. I know this firsthand just based how lost I felt in my experience.",
">\n\nSome good news.",
">\n\nOh, well that's good news.",
">\n\nBut I was told in 2016 that Democrats were the same as Republicans.",
">\n\nI know the mods have that thing about being courteous to others blah blah blah, but fuck trump...",
">\n\nYes, but there are still an estimated 1,000 more that they can’t even find yet. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nThe headline shouldn't exist but half the country literally voted for this to happen. It's insane. Ashamed to be an American.",
">\n\nAfter the last child is reunited with family, Melania's \"I don't really care do you\" jacket will be displayed in the Smithsonian.",
">\n\n*Biden administration reunites 700 kids taken from parents under trump",
">\n\nOnly 49,300 to go.",
">\n\nThe Trump administration was monstrous. If there is such a thing as Karma this country has a lot to pay for…",
">\n\nI hope they use this to finally lock up Trump and his goons. This is disgusting and a stain on the US.",
">\n\nThe right thing to do.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\n/r/Orphancrushingmachine",
">\n\nWhy are the Republicans such pieces of shit? The whole fucking Republican Party needs to be done away with permanently.",
">\n\nIts still happening. Reuniting kids is great and all but if the same policies that separated them still exist it doesn't mean anything",
">\n\nbelongs in /r/upliftingnews!",
">\n\nHonestly it baffles me why people see “horrendous injustice addressed after long delay” and say “/r/upliftingnews”. There’s nothing uplifting about this story, everyone should be enraged.",
">\n\nEveryone is enraged all the time about everything and then go to Reddit or Twitter to make comments which does nothing.",
">\n\nAt least enraged people acknowledge the problem. Toxic positivity does less than that.",
">\n\nGood. Shame on the previous terroristic administration for the separations in the first place.",
">\n\nBut my dad won’t be talking about this. \nOnly that Biden keeps on sending money to Ukraine and his social security is going to run out. \nIt’s kind of funny at this point."
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"The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children. In 30 years from now we will be seeing documentaries about children who suffered permanent psychological damage at the hands of Trumps administration. People will be shocked to learn that the U.S. government focible took these peoples children and intentionally separated them to be cruel.",
">\n\nThe people who supported it will pretend they never knew anything about it and act shocked and disgusted.",
">\n\nThey already are claiming this did not happen or Obama did it or some other nonsense. Let me clear: Trump instituted a policy to forcibly separate children (including infants) from their legal asylum-seekng parents at the border. He did this to be cruel and scare people from coming. His minions then forgot to keep records of who the kids were.",
">\n\nI'd only argue with \"forgot.\" They intentionally didn't keep records so as to make it as difficult as possible to reunite these families. The cruelty was the point. In fact, they outright declared that they were doing this to try to dissuade people from coming to America. \"Try to seek asylum in America and we'll separate you from your kids who you'll never see again!\"",
">\n\n\"The laws are the laws\" = dead giveaway for a fascist. The law is there to serve the people. If it's not serving them, it should be changed.",
">\n\nWhat really gives away the game is politicians supporting and pushing through laws that do not have majority public support - anti-marijuana and abortion come to mind. Also the use of propaganda to try to affect levels of support for certain things.",
">\n\nA piece of legislation is almost always guaranteed to fail if it polls extremely popular with Americans on all sides. It's really sad...",
">\n\nYep, like “80% of Americans support this” and they’re uh… “oh but some discredited propaganda bullshit”. Really gives away who they are truly working for.",
">\n\nNo, they'll have their \"experts\" testify that they're correct. Then you find out the \"expert\" talking about MJ legalization is a LEO and the \"expert\" talking about abortion is a religious leader.",
">\n\nThe people who did this belong on trail for crimes against humanity at the Hague.\nActual consequences? Fuckin' crickets as usual.",
">\n\nReminder that under Bush the US granted itself permission to invade The Hague If an American citizen should ever be tried there.",
">\n\nWe should send Bush to be tried there.",
">\n\nTrump and his henchmen should be charged for these crimes. Of all of Trump's crimes, I think the concentration camps for immigrants and separating immigrants from their children were among the worst. We have to punish them or this will happen again next time they have the presidency.",
">\n\nAmerica doesn't punish Republican crimes.\n\nSource: Jan 6th",
">\n\nThe list of sources is very long.",
">\n\nIt starts at least with the Watergate. GWB never answered to war crimes or to lying to start a war. And Trump pardon the only person charged in the Valery Plane affair.",
">\n\nDidn't Nixon interfere with the peace process in Vietnam, extending the war so his opponent wouldn't get a win right before the election?",
">\n\nYep.",
">\n\nStephen Miller should be in a 6 x 9",
">\n\nAre there any cells smaller than that for that pea brained asshat?",
">\n\nThere’s a box",
">\n\nIf it fits it sits",
">\n\nThis program of separating parents from their children without documentation is going to be remembered in the same way we talk about the Syphilis Study at Tuskegee. Except that was the 1930s.\nOne of these days some of those kids are going to take their pound of flesh out of the United States either legally or violently, and they'll have right on their side.",
">\n\nnah, the fascists will have rewritten history in the US by then. Our kids will never learn about any of it unless we move.",
">\n\nPresident Ron Desantis III will remove it from the national curriculum.",
">\n\nProbably in a governor position he would still have that power",
">\n\nNever forget this was a crime against humanity. Conservatives supported it. Even your so called “moderate conservative friends”\nIf it had been your kid they wouldn’t give a fuck.\nIn 20 years people will call it a stain on our nation. But the sociopaths who enabled it are here right now.",
">\n\nThe sociopaths who enabled it are in a very good position to seize absolute control of our country, too.",
">\n\nDon’t forget that it’s the trump supporters that empowered the sociopaths.",
">\n\nIt boggles my mind how there isn't a bigger deal made of this. They stole kids from their parents. Any time it pops into my head, I'm infuriated. In a just world, Trump and his administration would be harshly punished.",
">\n\nSeriously. It is crime against HUMANITY",
">\n\nDOJ should throw kidnapping charges onto the pile of Trump crimes.",
">\n\nKidnapped. That's called kidnapping.",
">\n\nAbduction, human trafficking, genocide.\nTake your pick.",
">\n\nThis needs to be made into a drama doc, like the recent Jeffrey Dahmer series. I guarantee it would make a compelling story, and if done right, it would reach even strong trump supporters just by virtue of it's entertainment value. \nThis whole debacle was one of the cruelest things the US has done in decades, and it was done with Glee by a mentally unstable maniac and his supporters. The sooner we see it through the lens of history and regret, the better",
">\n\nWe better hurry before the republicans ban all history.",
">\n\nThis is only happening because trump never had a plan to reunite the families.\nFor those in the back. He ripped apart families with NO INTENTION OF THEM EVER BEING REUNITED.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. In order to create a situation like this, they had to have the intent to prevent the reuniting of families.",
">\n\nIt pains me to think how great this nation could be if the government didnt have to spend time and resources fixing the things republican admins did",
">\n\nIt's such an insane cycle. Conservatives fuck shit up, Dems finally get back in and spend the entire time fixing shit, conservatives run on \"look, they didn't make anything better!\", get back in to fuck shit up. Rinse and repeat.",
">\n\nExcept Dems (if they actually focus on it) are usually only able to fix 70ish% of the budgetary and humanitarian issues that were cause by the previous administration. Then when they lose reelection we slip further backwards.",
">\n\nWhat do you mean if?",
">\n\nIf they focus on repairing damage instead of squabbling with each other (which happens a lot).",
">\n\nAs a Mexican immigrant I really appreciate this",
">\n\nI just wish we had received the same support nationwide like BLM did.",
">\n\nOutraged Republicans demand to know why they were not sold to traffickers as they planned.",
">\n\nThink of all that could have been accomplished in the same time with the same effort if we didn't need them to focus on this. Every Democratic administration is hobbled by needing to undo the evils of the Republicans before them. And it doesn't go the other way because it only takes a second to wreck something, but it takes time to do things right.",
">\n\nContrarily to what the aryicle stars, they were not crossing illegaly. They came as asylum seekers, which is legal. Many (all?) of them arrived at official points of entry. These are not people who were arrested crossing the river in the middle of the night (not that it would justify taking their kids in any way).",
">\n\nOf course the Republican subs are silent on this\nFuck trump",
">\n\ngiving them all citizenship and all of their families is the least we could do for what we've done to those kids",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nThey’ll still be traumatized for the rest of their lives. Drug addiction, depression, suicides will plague these children. If there were any justice, the architects of this policy should be charged with crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nTypical go to of Christian nationalists is to steal children.",
">\n\nI guess the conservatives are ok as long it isn't their child or children.",
">\n\nI want to remind everyone here that Trump's ICE not only separated countless children from their parents, they then \"LOST\" them. Trafficked. They trafficked them. But they called them \"lost\". Then, in an absolutely astounding act of evil and affirmation of cruelty, they released the numbers to the public: 1488 lost children.\nYes. That's right. 1488, the same number literal nazis hold sacred.\nThe depth of evil and abuse and violence the right has descended to should be SO MUCH more alarming to more people. In case you think the assertion that the children were trafficked is alarmist please remember when they caught ICE transporting children without paperwork in the dead of night or keeping children in hotels without due process then sending them back to mexico with no transition process so they were essentially homeless.",
">\n\nWow. That is incredibly evil.",
">\n\nThe GOP are the Nazis come again. Time is a flat circle and most of the circle is fascism",
">\n\nNearly 75 percent is better than I expected, and they're still working. One small cause for optimism.",
">\n\nI wouldn't call it a small cause. This is pretty massive, actually following through with fixing this disgusting miscarriage of justice. I remember reading about this stuff happening and thinking that it would have to be a priority for a new administration. Glad it's being handled.",
">\n\nI remember reading this and thinking ‘holy fucking shit’, and my view on USA has not been the same since.\nThe fact Trump still got 70+ million votes after mandating/ordering this policy is insane.",
">\n\nTrump voters tend to be low information. If they even heard about this, they heard someone on Fox/Newsmax/twitter defending it or saying it was fantastic while distorting the truth about it.",
">\n\nI’d like to think they were ignorant, but somehow it all adds up. I can’t let it go.",
">\n\nNot enough, but it’s a start.",
">\n\nCrimes against humanity.",
">\n\nJesus Christ Trump was a disaster, we're just now returning the kids to their parents though?!? The damage we caused will never go away.",
">\n\nOver 2000 were returned during the Trump administration so these are part of the harder to find parents.",
">\n\nSomething tells me this will not be on many news stations tonight.",
">\n\nFinally. This is why I voted in 2020",
">\n\nI will be enraged until the headline reads ALL!",
">\n\nUnfortunately, that might never happen given that the Trump administration managed to lose track of a bunch of them. I wish I was making that up.",
">\n\nHow about the DOJ criminally prosecute the architects and others who had a hand in this heinous crime?",
">\n\n\nAccording to figures released by the Department of Homeland Security, 3,881 children were separated from their families from 2017 to 2021. About 74% of those have been reunited with their families: 2,176 before the task force was created and 689 afterward.\nBut that still leaves nearly 1,000 children. Of those, 148 are in the reunification process. The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children.\n\nUgh, close but not close enough to fixing this mistake.",
">\n\nRemember when the Trump administration claimed that it was impossible to reunite the families?",
">\n\nWhy do we always have to clean up after Republicans? Getting tiresome.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that because the separation policy was specifically designed to deter certain kinds of people from seeking asylum, these kidnappings qualify as a crime against humanity under international law.",
">\n\nA whole bunch of them were trafficked to the upper Midwest to work the overnight shift on meat packing plant floors. It was only uncovered when one of their middle school teachers called CPS because these kids were coming in with severe chemical burns on their hands and arms. And, yes - after working the overnight shift cleaning a meat processing plant floor, these kids were going to school all day. The youngest was 12.",
">\n\nOh no. Just appalling",
">\n\nBecause it’s the right thing to do. Well done. Still going to be a long road toward healing for those poor kids.",
">\n\nI'm still stunned nobody has gone to jail for this and that the US public did not draw the line at this. It is sickening.",
">\n\nWe don’t get credit for fixing our own fuckup",
">\n\nIt is SHAMEFUL how these people were treated.",
">\n\nThat is wonderful news. Trump and his administration were so evil and cruel. I can't imagine how anyone could be so heartless.",
">\n\nHow many of these kids were molested by Trump supporters? Not zero.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to think if Trump was still POTUS, these (and likely many more) kids would still be lost.",
">\n\nNot enough is made over the evil that Trump and Stephen Miller committed during this fiasco. \nObjectively horrific, vile men.",
">\n\nNever forget there was one boy who died in his own vomit for hours before someone checked up on him. My blood still seethes thinking about it.\nHis name was Carlos Gregorio Hernandez Vasquez, he was 16 from Guatemala.",
">\n\nI'm very happy to read this. That said, the fact that this ever happened (and I don't care who it happens under) is disgusting and needs to be completely stopped from happening again.",
">\n\nThis should be much bigger news",
">\n\nHow many years were these kids without their parents in a government camp?",
">\n\nClose to four years.",
">\n\nOh yea I forgot he did this, the absolute sicko",
">\n\nThis is real oppressive fascist shit, my dear Americans. Except those who should hear this either won't read this or don't have a problem with it...",
">\n\nThis probably puts SStephen Miller in the deepest of funks.",
">\n\nGenuinely good news and a step towards righting an intentionally monstrous act.",
">\n\nhow many more are there? how many were raped? how many died?",
">\n\nIt's good to see the nation moving closer to its founding principles.",
">\n\nIf this is true, it’s the only news I heard today that I give a single fuck about. Wow. YES. Keep going. 100% reunification.",
">\n\nThere are still missing children.",
">\n\nTrAnS pEoPlE aRe GrOoMiNg OuR cHiLdReN. No, there not, and your outrage would be more effective if it targeted the POS you voted for.",
">\n\nTrump reign of terror was so barbaric.",
">\n\nThing is. .....Republicans are probably unhappy about this.",
">\n\nThis definitely put a smile on my face! :)",
">\n\nUS reunites nearly 700 kids taken from parents under ~~Trump~~ the republicans.",
">\n\nSomehow trump will take credit for this. He'll say something like how much better he made those parents appreciate their children and the children their parents. Ugh.",
">\n\nbold of you to assume he'll pay any attention at all to them.",
">\n\nHow I fucking wish \"Kids in cages\" never became the misleading rallying cry against Trump when kidnapped children was the more accurate description of what the administration was doing that needed to be stopped immediately.\nHow many times have you seen some galaxy brain talk about how \"Oh nobody says 'kids in cages' anymore now that it's ok Biden is doing it!\" Yeah it was a stupid and inaccurate criticism to begin with, because any kind of policy of detaining people caught trying to cross the border illegally will fit the \"kids in cages\" meme. \nThe entire reason people got mad at Trump beyond the border wall nonsense was because he specifically ordered a family separation policy that was designed to function as a cruel deterrent to immigration. The Obama administration was forced to adopt a family separation policy because courts ruled that minors could not be detained with adults when detained by ICE, but the Trump administration embraced this policy and added on kidnapping and forced separation across the country which resembled human trafficking more than any kind of immigration policy.\nAnd yeah, Biden is reuniting people while still maintaining a policy of not letting anyone cross the border anywhere at any time for any reason. We can talk about the ethics of detaining people caught trying to cross a national border illegally, and we should. But its an entirely separate discussion from whether one should steal their kids and ship them across the country and throw away the records of where they went.",
">\n\nAnother horrifying legacy of the US.",
">\n\nStephen Miller needs to be permanently attached to this heartless decision.",
">\n\nThe damage has been done. It's literally the least we can do is give them their children back.. I can't even believe that sentence needed to be said. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nFinally, someone thought of the children",
">\n\nYet another crime that orange gasbag will never be punished for…",
">\n\nThis chapter of Trump's presidency was truly mask off evil from the party that professes that they are the party of morals and family values. Before this people could argue that they could be afforded the benefit of the doubt. I kind of knew that Republicans were trolls and bad faith actors but then after this I knew that they really have no bottom line with how low they are willing to go. Truly evil what they did to those desperate families and kids when it would have been the easiest thing in the world to just not.",
">\n\nThis is not the same war crime Russia is doing in the Ukraine. It's a completely different war crime.",
">\n\nIt's sad and despicable that this is even necessary.",
">\n\nThis post has about 670 comments. Imagine if every single one of them was a family reunion. Heartbreaking cruelty from the last administration.",
">\n\nThe Trimp administration did a lot terrible things and had plenty of awful, harmful policies. But this is one of those times when it crossed the line into literal evil.",
">\n\nI figured this was happening in the background but damn it's heartbreaking that it's taking this long because of how thoroughly Trump fucked up any semblance of process for the DHS\nLike don't get me wrong, anyone who works for ICE is and always has been a disgusting pig, but they used to be disgusting pigs bound by similar levels of US bureaucracy as the rest of the government",
">\n\nThis was a very good thing to do and the media isn’t talking about it.",
">\n\nThis needs to be bigger news",
">\n\nWhat the hell AP, it was the US under Trump too. Maybe a better headline might have been \"Biden admin reunites nearly 700...\"",
">\n\nOur bad, we did teach the kid to walk and talk, she mostly knows to say “put your hands through the bars” but still.",
">\n\nThis is news I've been waiting 6 years for.",
">\n\nWas Eric one of them?",
">\n\nI will look for you, I will find you and I will reunite you",
">\n\nLike the motherfucking handmaids tale or some shit",
">\n\nIt's nice for the country to be taking a step back towards its ideals.",
">\n\nWhy the fuck is this not plastered all over the news? This was an international outrage for years and now it’s a tiny news story thrown in on a Friday? Whomever is in charge of the WH Press Office should be ashamed.",
">\n\nNot sure what the White House Press Office could do here if outlets simply don't bother pushing the story.",
">\n\nI want to know how many are still separated.\nEverything else is not good enough.",
">\n\nYou will need to do a slight bit of math when reading the article to get the exact number but it as about a thousand remaining to be united.",
">\n\nI feel for these kids (and their parents). Many of them have been sexually assaulted because no one was there to protect them.",
">\n\nGee, Trump reminds me of Hitler for some reason. Does anyone else see a similarity? One redeeming factor is that we all know how Hitler ended up.",
">\n\nIt is a great labor to undo great evils. \nGlad it's being done.",
">\n\nHow many in total were separated? 700 is great, but if there are still 1,000s more this should also be an equal amount of new coverage.",
">\n\nThe exact counts are in the article if you want them.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if the articles were meant to be read.",
">\n\nIt’s a good start",
">\n\nIs trump a Russian spy?\nA global traitor",
">\n\nWhen will the real criminals be put in jail?",
">\n\nvery nice to see this happen and hopefully never happens again.",
">\n\nI pray the remaining children are with US family members. This was an impeachable criminal act by Trump",
">\n\nThis was by far the most evil thing his administration did.",
">\n\nNow seperate Trump from his family.",
">\n\nI mean, damage done. If I was fleeing my home in terror from economic disaster, and the place I ran to stole my fucking kid from me, and I didn’t get them back for three years?…. I mean… that dude is a terrorist now. What is left in his life except to punish this country?",
">\n\nLock him up",
">\n\nSome good news",
">\n\nThis is not enough.",
">\n\nI was kidnapped and separated from one of my parents for a week when I was young. To be separated for such a long time… The shit is going to haunt those kids for the rest of their lives and they will likely hate those who put them through this. I know this firsthand just based how lost I felt in my experience.",
">\n\nSome good news.",
">\n\nOh, well that's good news.",
">\n\nBut I was told in 2016 that Democrats were the same as Republicans.",
">\n\nI know the mods have that thing about being courteous to others blah blah blah, but fuck trump...",
">\n\nYes, but there are still an estimated 1,000 more that they can’t even find yet. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nThe headline shouldn't exist but half the country literally voted for this to happen. It's insane. Ashamed to be an American.",
">\n\nAfter the last child is reunited with family, Melania's \"I don't really care do you\" jacket will be displayed in the Smithsonian.",
">\n\n*Biden administration reunites 700 kids taken from parents under trump",
">\n\nOnly 49,300 to go.",
">\n\nThe Trump administration was monstrous. If there is such a thing as Karma this country has a lot to pay for…",
">\n\nI hope they use this to finally lock up Trump and his goons. This is disgusting and a stain on the US.",
">\n\nThe right thing to do.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\n/r/Orphancrushingmachine",
">\n\nWhy are the Republicans such pieces of shit? The whole fucking Republican Party needs to be done away with permanently.",
">\n\nIts still happening. Reuniting kids is great and all but if the same policies that separated them still exist it doesn't mean anything",
">\n\nbelongs in /r/upliftingnews!",
">\n\nHonestly it baffles me why people see “horrendous injustice addressed after long delay” and say “/r/upliftingnews”. There’s nothing uplifting about this story, everyone should be enraged.",
">\n\nEveryone is enraged all the time about everything and then go to Reddit or Twitter to make comments which does nothing.",
">\n\nAt least enraged people acknowledge the problem. Toxic positivity does less than that.",
">\n\nGood. Shame on the previous terroristic administration for the separations in the first place.",
">\n\nBut my dad won’t be talking about this. \nOnly that Biden keeps on sending money to Ukraine and his social security is going to run out. \nIt’s kind of funny at this point.",
">\n\nRemind him that his social security will run out, but you won’t get any because we don’t fucking tax the rich like we did before the 80s."
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"The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children. In 30 years from now we will be seeing documentaries about children who suffered permanent psychological damage at the hands of Trumps administration. People will be shocked to learn that the U.S. government focible took these peoples children and intentionally separated them to be cruel.",
">\n\nThe people who supported it will pretend they never knew anything about it and act shocked and disgusted.",
">\n\nThey already are claiming this did not happen or Obama did it or some other nonsense. Let me clear: Trump instituted a policy to forcibly separate children (including infants) from their legal asylum-seekng parents at the border. He did this to be cruel and scare people from coming. His minions then forgot to keep records of who the kids were.",
">\n\nI'd only argue with \"forgot.\" They intentionally didn't keep records so as to make it as difficult as possible to reunite these families. The cruelty was the point. In fact, they outright declared that they were doing this to try to dissuade people from coming to America. \"Try to seek asylum in America and we'll separate you from your kids who you'll never see again!\"",
">\n\n\"The laws are the laws\" = dead giveaway for a fascist. The law is there to serve the people. If it's not serving them, it should be changed.",
">\n\nWhat really gives away the game is politicians supporting and pushing through laws that do not have majority public support - anti-marijuana and abortion come to mind. Also the use of propaganda to try to affect levels of support for certain things.",
">\n\nA piece of legislation is almost always guaranteed to fail if it polls extremely popular with Americans on all sides. It's really sad...",
">\n\nYep, like “80% of Americans support this” and they’re uh… “oh but some discredited propaganda bullshit”. Really gives away who they are truly working for.",
">\n\nNo, they'll have their \"experts\" testify that they're correct. Then you find out the \"expert\" talking about MJ legalization is a LEO and the \"expert\" talking about abortion is a religious leader.",
">\n\nThe people who did this belong on trail for crimes against humanity at the Hague.\nActual consequences? Fuckin' crickets as usual.",
">\n\nReminder that under Bush the US granted itself permission to invade The Hague If an American citizen should ever be tried there.",
">\n\nWe should send Bush to be tried there.",
">\n\nTrump and his henchmen should be charged for these crimes. Of all of Trump's crimes, I think the concentration camps for immigrants and separating immigrants from their children were among the worst. We have to punish them or this will happen again next time they have the presidency.",
">\n\nAmerica doesn't punish Republican crimes.\n\nSource: Jan 6th",
">\n\nThe list of sources is very long.",
">\n\nIt starts at least with the Watergate. GWB never answered to war crimes or to lying to start a war. And Trump pardon the only person charged in the Valery Plane affair.",
">\n\nDidn't Nixon interfere with the peace process in Vietnam, extending the war so his opponent wouldn't get a win right before the election?",
">\n\nYep.",
">\n\nStephen Miller should be in a 6 x 9",
">\n\nAre there any cells smaller than that for that pea brained asshat?",
">\n\nThere’s a box",
">\n\nIf it fits it sits",
">\n\nThis program of separating parents from their children without documentation is going to be remembered in the same way we talk about the Syphilis Study at Tuskegee. Except that was the 1930s.\nOne of these days some of those kids are going to take their pound of flesh out of the United States either legally or violently, and they'll have right on their side.",
">\n\nnah, the fascists will have rewritten history in the US by then. Our kids will never learn about any of it unless we move.",
">\n\nPresident Ron Desantis III will remove it from the national curriculum.",
">\n\nProbably in a governor position he would still have that power",
">\n\nNever forget this was a crime against humanity. Conservatives supported it. Even your so called “moderate conservative friends”\nIf it had been your kid they wouldn’t give a fuck.\nIn 20 years people will call it a stain on our nation. But the sociopaths who enabled it are here right now.",
">\n\nThe sociopaths who enabled it are in a very good position to seize absolute control of our country, too.",
">\n\nDon’t forget that it’s the trump supporters that empowered the sociopaths.",
">\n\nIt boggles my mind how there isn't a bigger deal made of this. They stole kids from their parents. Any time it pops into my head, I'm infuriated. In a just world, Trump and his administration would be harshly punished.",
">\n\nSeriously. It is crime against HUMANITY",
">\n\nDOJ should throw kidnapping charges onto the pile of Trump crimes.",
">\n\nKidnapped. That's called kidnapping.",
">\n\nAbduction, human trafficking, genocide.\nTake your pick.",
">\n\nThis needs to be made into a drama doc, like the recent Jeffrey Dahmer series. I guarantee it would make a compelling story, and if done right, it would reach even strong trump supporters just by virtue of it's entertainment value. \nThis whole debacle was one of the cruelest things the US has done in decades, and it was done with Glee by a mentally unstable maniac and his supporters. The sooner we see it through the lens of history and regret, the better",
">\n\nWe better hurry before the republicans ban all history.",
">\n\nThis is only happening because trump never had a plan to reunite the families.\nFor those in the back. He ripped apart families with NO INTENTION OF THEM EVER BEING REUNITED.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. In order to create a situation like this, they had to have the intent to prevent the reuniting of families.",
">\n\nIt pains me to think how great this nation could be if the government didnt have to spend time and resources fixing the things republican admins did",
">\n\nIt's such an insane cycle. Conservatives fuck shit up, Dems finally get back in and spend the entire time fixing shit, conservatives run on \"look, they didn't make anything better!\", get back in to fuck shit up. Rinse and repeat.",
">\n\nExcept Dems (if they actually focus on it) are usually only able to fix 70ish% of the budgetary and humanitarian issues that were cause by the previous administration. Then when they lose reelection we slip further backwards.",
">\n\nWhat do you mean if?",
">\n\nIf they focus on repairing damage instead of squabbling with each other (which happens a lot).",
">\n\nAs a Mexican immigrant I really appreciate this",
">\n\nI just wish we had received the same support nationwide like BLM did.",
">\n\nOutraged Republicans demand to know why they were not sold to traffickers as they planned.",
">\n\nThink of all that could have been accomplished in the same time with the same effort if we didn't need them to focus on this. Every Democratic administration is hobbled by needing to undo the evils of the Republicans before them. And it doesn't go the other way because it only takes a second to wreck something, but it takes time to do things right.",
">\n\nContrarily to what the aryicle stars, they were not crossing illegaly. They came as asylum seekers, which is legal. Many (all?) of them arrived at official points of entry. These are not people who were arrested crossing the river in the middle of the night (not that it would justify taking their kids in any way).",
">\n\nOf course the Republican subs are silent on this\nFuck trump",
">\n\ngiving them all citizenship and all of their families is the least we could do for what we've done to those kids",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nThey’ll still be traumatized for the rest of their lives. Drug addiction, depression, suicides will plague these children. If there were any justice, the architects of this policy should be charged with crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nTypical go to of Christian nationalists is to steal children.",
">\n\nI guess the conservatives are ok as long it isn't their child or children.",
">\n\nI want to remind everyone here that Trump's ICE not only separated countless children from their parents, they then \"LOST\" them. Trafficked. They trafficked them. But they called them \"lost\". Then, in an absolutely astounding act of evil and affirmation of cruelty, they released the numbers to the public: 1488 lost children.\nYes. That's right. 1488, the same number literal nazis hold sacred.\nThe depth of evil and abuse and violence the right has descended to should be SO MUCH more alarming to more people. In case you think the assertion that the children were trafficked is alarmist please remember when they caught ICE transporting children without paperwork in the dead of night or keeping children in hotels without due process then sending them back to mexico with no transition process so they were essentially homeless.",
">\n\nWow. That is incredibly evil.",
">\n\nThe GOP are the Nazis come again. Time is a flat circle and most of the circle is fascism",
">\n\nNearly 75 percent is better than I expected, and they're still working. One small cause for optimism.",
">\n\nI wouldn't call it a small cause. This is pretty massive, actually following through with fixing this disgusting miscarriage of justice. I remember reading about this stuff happening and thinking that it would have to be a priority for a new administration. Glad it's being handled.",
">\n\nI remember reading this and thinking ‘holy fucking shit’, and my view on USA has not been the same since.\nThe fact Trump still got 70+ million votes after mandating/ordering this policy is insane.",
">\n\nTrump voters tend to be low information. If they even heard about this, they heard someone on Fox/Newsmax/twitter defending it or saying it was fantastic while distorting the truth about it.",
">\n\nI’d like to think they were ignorant, but somehow it all adds up. I can’t let it go.",
">\n\nNot enough, but it’s a start.",
">\n\nCrimes against humanity.",
">\n\nJesus Christ Trump was a disaster, we're just now returning the kids to their parents though?!? The damage we caused will never go away.",
">\n\nOver 2000 were returned during the Trump administration so these are part of the harder to find parents.",
">\n\nSomething tells me this will not be on many news stations tonight.",
">\n\nFinally. This is why I voted in 2020",
">\n\nI will be enraged until the headline reads ALL!",
">\n\nUnfortunately, that might never happen given that the Trump administration managed to lose track of a bunch of them. I wish I was making that up.",
">\n\nHow about the DOJ criminally prosecute the architects and others who had a hand in this heinous crime?",
">\n\n\nAccording to figures released by the Department of Homeland Security, 3,881 children were separated from their families from 2017 to 2021. About 74% of those have been reunited with their families: 2,176 before the task force was created and 689 afterward.\nBut that still leaves nearly 1,000 children. Of those, 148 are in the reunification process. The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children.\n\nUgh, close but not close enough to fixing this mistake.",
">\n\nRemember when the Trump administration claimed that it was impossible to reunite the families?",
">\n\nWhy do we always have to clean up after Republicans? Getting tiresome.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that because the separation policy was specifically designed to deter certain kinds of people from seeking asylum, these kidnappings qualify as a crime against humanity under international law.",
">\n\nA whole bunch of them were trafficked to the upper Midwest to work the overnight shift on meat packing plant floors. It was only uncovered when one of their middle school teachers called CPS because these kids were coming in with severe chemical burns on their hands and arms. And, yes - after working the overnight shift cleaning a meat processing plant floor, these kids were going to school all day. The youngest was 12.",
">\n\nOh no. Just appalling",
">\n\nBecause it’s the right thing to do. Well done. Still going to be a long road toward healing for those poor kids.",
">\n\nI'm still stunned nobody has gone to jail for this and that the US public did not draw the line at this. It is sickening.",
">\n\nWe don’t get credit for fixing our own fuckup",
">\n\nIt is SHAMEFUL how these people were treated.",
">\n\nThat is wonderful news. Trump and his administration were so evil and cruel. I can't imagine how anyone could be so heartless.",
">\n\nHow many of these kids were molested by Trump supporters? Not zero.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to think if Trump was still POTUS, these (and likely many more) kids would still be lost.",
">\n\nNot enough is made over the evil that Trump and Stephen Miller committed during this fiasco. \nObjectively horrific, vile men.",
">\n\nNever forget there was one boy who died in his own vomit for hours before someone checked up on him. My blood still seethes thinking about it.\nHis name was Carlos Gregorio Hernandez Vasquez, he was 16 from Guatemala.",
">\n\nI'm very happy to read this. That said, the fact that this ever happened (and I don't care who it happens under) is disgusting and needs to be completely stopped from happening again.",
">\n\nThis should be much bigger news",
">\n\nHow many years were these kids without their parents in a government camp?",
">\n\nClose to four years.",
">\n\nOh yea I forgot he did this, the absolute sicko",
">\n\nThis is real oppressive fascist shit, my dear Americans. Except those who should hear this either won't read this or don't have a problem with it...",
">\n\nThis probably puts SStephen Miller in the deepest of funks.",
">\n\nGenuinely good news and a step towards righting an intentionally monstrous act.",
">\n\nhow many more are there? how many were raped? how many died?",
">\n\nIt's good to see the nation moving closer to its founding principles.",
">\n\nIf this is true, it’s the only news I heard today that I give a single fuck about. Wow. YES. Keep going. 100% reunification.",
">\n\nThere are still missing children.",
">\n\nTrAnS pEoPlE aRe GrOoMiNg OuR cHiLdReN. No, there not, and your outrage would be more effective if it targeted the POS you voted for.",
">\n\nTrump reign of terror was so barbaric.",
">\n\nThing is. .....Republicans are probably unhappy about this.",
">\n\nThis definitely put a smile on my face! :)",
">\n\nUS reunites nearly 700 kids taken from parents under ~~Trump~~ the republicans.",
">\n\nSomehow trump will take credit for this. He'll say something like how much better he made those parents appreciate their children and the children their parents. Ugh.",
">\n\nbold of you to assume he'll pay any attention at all to them.",
">\n\nHow I fucking wish \"Kids in cages\" never became the misleading rallying cry against Trump when kidnapped children was the more accurate description of what the administration was doing that needed to be stopped immediately.\nHow many times have you seen some galaxy brain talk about how \"Oh nobody says 'kids in cages' anymore now that it's ok Biden is doing it!\" Yeah it was a stupid and inaccurate criticism to begin with, because any kind of policy of detaining people caught trying to cross the border illegally will fit the \"kids in cages\" meme. \nThe entire reason people got mad at Trump beyond the border wall nonsense was because he specifically ordered a family separation policy that was designed to function as a cruel deterrent to immigration. The Obama administration was forced to adopt a family separation policy because courts ruled that minors could not be detained with adults when detained by ICE, but the Trump administration embraced this policy and added on kidnapping and forced separation across the country which resembled human trafficking more than any kind of immigration policy.\nAnd yeah, Biden is reuniting people while still maintaining a policy of not letting anyone cross the border anywhere at any time for any reason. We can talk about the ethics of detaining people caught trying to cross a national border illegally, and we should. But its an entirely separate discussion from whether one should steal their kids and ship them across the country and throw away the records of where they went.",
">\n\nAnother horrifying legacy of the US.",
">\n\nStephen Miller needs to be permanently attached to this heartless decision.",
">\n\nThe damage has been done. It's literally the least we can do is give them their children back.. I can't even believe that sentence needed to be said. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nFinally, someone thought of the children",
">\n\nYet another crime that orange gasbag will never be punished for…",
">\n\nThis chapter of Trump's presidency was truly mask off evil from the party that professes that they are the party of morals and family values. Before this people could argue that they could be afforded the benefit of the doubt. I kind of knew that Republicans were trolls and bad faith actors but then after this I knew that they really have no bottom line with how low they are willing to go. Truly evil what they did to those desperate families and kids when it would have been the easiest thing in the world to just not.",
">\n\nThis is not the same war crime Russia is doing in the Ukraine. It's a completely different war crime.",
">\n\nIt's sad and despicable that this is even necessary.",
">\n\nThis post has about 670 comments. Imagine if every single one of them was a family reunion. Heartbreaking cruelty from the last administration.",
">\n\nThe Trimp administration did a lot terrible things and had plenty of awful, harmful policies. But this is one of those times when it crossed the line into literal evil.",
">\n\nI figured this was happening in the background but damn it's heartbreaking that it's taking this long because of how thoroughly Trump fucked up any semblance of process for the DHS\nLike don't get me wrong, anyone who works for ICE is and always has been a disgusting pig, but they used to be disgusting pigs bound by similar levels of US bureaucracy as the rest of the government",
">\n\nThis was a very good thing to do and the media isn’t talking about it.",
">\n\nThis needs to be bigger news",
">\n\nWhat the hell AP, it was the US under Trump too. Maybe a better headline might have been \"Biden admin reunites nearly 700...\"",
">\n\nOur bad, we did teach the kid to walk and talk, she mostly knows to say “put your hands through the bars” but still.",
">\n\nThis is news I've been waiting 6 years for.",
">\n\nWas Eric one of them?",
">\n\nI will look for you, I will find you and I will reunite you",
">\n\nLike the motherfucking handmaids tale or some shit",
">\n\nIt's nice for the country to be taking a step back towards its ideals.",
">\n\nWhy the fuck is this not plastered all over the news? This was an international outrage for years and now it’s a tiny news story thrown in on a Friday? Whomever is in charge of the WH Press Office should be ashamed.",
">\n\nNot sure what the White House Press Office could do here if outlets simply don't bother pushing the story.",
">\n\nI want to know how many are still separated.\nEverything else is not good enough.",
">\n\nYou will need to do a slight bit of math when reading the article to get the exact number but it as about a thousand remaining to be united.",
">\n\nI feel for these kids (and their parents). Many of them have been sexually assaulted because no one was there to protect them.",
">\n\nGee, Trump reminds me of Hitler for some reason. Does anyone else see a similarity? One redeeming factor is that we all know how Hitler ended up.",
">\n\nIt is a great labor to undo great evils. \nGlad it's being done.",
">\n\nHow many in total were separated? 700 is great, but if there are still 1,000s more this should also be an equal amount of new coverage.",
">\n\nThe exact counts are in the article if you want them.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if the articles were meant to be read.",
">\n\nIt’s a good start",
">\n\nIs trump a Russian spy?\nA global traitor",
">\n\nWhen will the real criminals be put in jail?",
">\n\nvery nice to see this happen and hopefully never happens again.",
">\n\nI pray the remaining children are with US family members. This was an impeachable criminal act by Trump",
">\n\nThis was by far the most evil thing his administration did.",
">\n\nNow seperate Trump from his family.",
">\n\nI mean, damage done. If I was fleeing my home in terror from economic disaster, and the place I ran to stole my fucking kid from me, and I didn’t get them back for three years?…. I mean… that dude is a terrorist now. What is left in his life except to punish this country?",
">\n\nLock him up",
">\n\nSome good news",
">\n\nThis is not enough.",
">\n\nI was kidnapped and separated from one of my parents for a week when I was young. To be separated for such a long time… The shit is going to haunt those kids for the rest of their lives and they will likely hate those who put them through this. I know this firsthand just based how lost I felt in my experience.",
">\n\nSome good news.",
">\n\nOh, well that's good news.",
">\n\nBut I was told in 2016 that Democrats were the same as Republicans.",
">\n\nI know the mods have that thing about being courteous to others blah blah blah, but fuck trump...",
">\n\nYes, but there are still an estimated 1,000 more that they can’t even find yet. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nThe headline shouldn't exist but half the country literally voted for this to happen. It's insane. Ashamed to be an American.",
">\n\nAfter the last child is reunited with family, Melania's \"I don't really care do you\" jacket will be displayed in the Smithsonian.",
">\n\n*Biden administration reunites 700 kids taken from parents under trump",
">\n\nOnly 49,300 to go.",
">\n\nThe Trump administration was monstrous. If there is such a thing as Karma this country has a lot to pay for…",
">\n\nI hope they use this to finally lock up Trump and his goons. This is disgusting and a stain on the US.",
">\n\nThe right thing to do.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\n/r/Orphancrushingmachine",
">\n\nWhy are the Republicans such pieces of shit? The whole fucking Republican Party needs to be done away with permanently.",
">\n\nIts still happening. Reuniting kids is great and all but if the same policies that separated them still exist it doesn't mean anything",
">\n\nbelongs in /r/upliftingnews!",
">\n\nHonestly it baffles me why people see “horrendous injustice addressed after long delay” and say “/r/upliftingnews”. There’s nothing uplifting about this story, everyone should be enraged.",
">\n\nEveryone is enraged all the time about everything and then go to Reddit or Twitter to make comments which does nothing.",
">\n\nAt least enraged people acknowledge the problem. Toxic positivity does less than that.",
">\n\nGood. Shame on the previous terroristic administration for the separations in the first place.",
">\n\nBut my dad won’t be talking about this. \nOnly that Biden keeps on sending money to Ukraine and his social security is going to run out. \nIt’s kind of funny at this point.",
">\n\nRemind him that his social security will run out, but you won’t get any because we don’t fucking tax the rich like we did before the 80s.",
">\n\nGOP, the party of family values"
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WASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.
President Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.
ADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.
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"The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children. In 30 years from now we will be seeing documentaries about children who suffered permanent psychological damage at the hands of Trumps administration. People will be shocked to learn that the U.S. government focible took these peoples children and intentionally separated them to be cruel.",
">\n\nThe people who supported it will pretend they never knew anything about it and act shocked and disgusted.",
">\n\nThey already are claiming this did not happen or Obama did it or some other nonsense. Let me clear: Trump instituted a policy to forcibly separate children (including infants) from their legal asylum-seekng parents at the border. He did this to be cruel and scare people from coming. His minions then forgot to keep records of who the kids were.",
">\n\nI'd only argue with \"forgot.\" They intentionally didn't keep records so as to make it as difficult as possible to reunite these families. The cruelty was the point. In fact, they outright declared that they were doing this to try to dissuade people from coming to America. \"Try to seek asylum in America and we'll separate you from your kids who you'll never see again!\"",
">\n\n\"The laws are the laws\" = dead giveaway for a fascist. The law is there to serve the people. If it's not serving them, it should be changed.",
">\n\nWhat really gives away the game is politicians supporting and pushing through laws that do not have majority public support - anti-marijuana and abortion come to mind. Also the use of propaganda to try to affect levels of support for certain things.",
">\n\nA piece of legislation is almost always guaranteed to fail if it polls extremely popular with Americans on all sides. It's really sad...",
">\n\nYep, like “80% of Americans support this” and they’re uh… “oh but some discredited propaganda bullshit”. Really gives away who they are truly working for.",
">\n\nNo, they'll have their \"experts\" testify that they're correct. Then you find out the \"expert\" talking about MJ legalization is a LEO and the \"expert\" talking about abortion is a religious leader.",
">\n\nThe people who did this belong on trail for crimes against humanity at the Hague.\nActual consequences? Fuckin' crickets as usual.",
">\n\nReminder that under Bush the US granted itself permission to invade The Hague If an American citizen should ever be tried there.",
">\n\nWe should send Bush to be tried there.",
">\n\nTrump and his henchmen should be charged for these crimes. Of all of Trump's crimes, I think the concentration camps for immigrants and separating immigrants from their children were among the worst. We have to punish them or this will happen again next time they have the presidency.",
">\n\nAmerica doesn't punish Republican crimes.\n\nSource: Jan 6th",
">\n\nThe list of sources is very long.",
">\n\nIt starts at least with the Watergate. GWB never answered to war crimes or to lying to start a war. And Trump pardon the only person charged in the Valery Plane affair.",
">\n\nDidn't Nixon interfere with the peace process in Vietnam, extending the war so his opponent wouldn't get a win right before the election?",
">\n\nYep.",
">\n\nStephen Miller should be in a 6 x 9",
">\n\nAre there any cells smaller than that for that pea brained asshat?",
">\n\nThere’s a box",
">\n\nIf it fits it sits",
">\n\nThis program of separating parents from their children without documentation is going to be remembered in the same way we talk about the Syphilis Study at Tuskegee. Except that was the 1930s.\nOne of these days some of those kids are going to take their pound of flesh out of the United States either legally or violently, and they'll have right on their side.",
">\n\nnah, the fascists will have rewritten history in the US by then. Our kids will never learn about any of it unless we move.",
">\n\nPresident Ron Desantis III will remove it from the national curriculum.",
">\n\nProbably in a governor position he would still have that power",
">\n\nNever forget this was a crime against humanity. Conservatives supported it. Even your so called “moderate conservative friends”\nIf it had been your kid they wouldn’t give a fuck.\nIn 20 years people will call it a stain on our nation. But the sociopaths who enabled it are here right now.",
">\n\nThe sociopaths who enabled it are in a very good position to seize absolute control of our country, too.",
">\n\nDon’t forget that it’s the trump supporters that empowered the sociopaths.",
">\n\nIt boggles my mind how there isn't a bigger deal made of this. They stole kids from their parents. Any time it pops into my head, I'm infuriated. In a just world, Trump and his administration would be harshly punished.",
">\n\nSeriously. It is crime against HUMANITY",
">\n\nDOJ should throw kidnapping charges onto the pile of Trump crimes.",
">\n\nKidnapped. That's called kidnapping.",
">\n\nAbduction, human trafficking, genocide.\nTake your pick.",
">\n\nThis needs to be made into a drama doc, like the recent Jeffrey Dahmer series. I guarantee it would make a compelling story, and if done right, it would reach even strong trump supporters just by virtue of it's entertainment value. \nThis whole debacle was one of the cruelest things the US has done in decades, and it was done with Glee by a mentally unstable maniac and his supporters. The sooner we see it through the lens of history and regret, the better",
">\n\nWe better hurry before the republicans ban all history.",
">\n\nThis is only happening because trump never had a plan to reunite the families.\nFor those in the back. He ripped apart families with NO INTENTION OF THEM EVER BEING REUNITED.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. In order to create a situation like this, they had to have the intent to prevent the reuniting of families.",
">\n\nIt pains me to think how great this nation could be if the government didnt have to spend time and resources fixing the things republican admins did",
">\n\nIt's such an insane cycle. Conservatives fuck shit up, Dems finally get back in and spend the entire time fixing shit, conservatives run on \"look, they didn't make anything better!\", get back in to fuck shit up. Rinse and repeat.",
">\n\nExcept Dems (if they actually focus on it) are usually only able to fix 70ish% of the budgetary and humanitarian issues that were cause by the previous administration. Then when they lose reelection we slip further backwards.",
">\n\nWhat do you mean if?",
">\n\nIf they focus on repairing damage instead of squabbling with each other (which happens a lot).",
">\n\nAs a Mexican immigrant I really appreciate this",
">\n\nI just wish we had received the same support nationwide like BLM did.",
">\n\nOutraged Republicans demand to know why they were not sold to traffickers as they planned.",
">\n\nThink of all that could have been accomplished in the same time with the same effort if we didn't need them to focus on this. Every Democratic administration is hobbled by needing to undo the evils of the Republicans before them. And it doesn't go the other way because it only takes a second to wreck something, but it takes time to do things right.",
">\n\nContrarily to what the aryicle stars, they were not crossing illegaly. They came as asylum seekers, which is legal. Many (all?) of them arrived at official points of entry. These are not people who were arrested crossing the river in the middle of the night (not that it would justify taking their kids in any way).",
">\n\nOf course the Republican subs are silent on this\nFuck trump",
">\n\ngiving them all citizenship and all of their families is the least we could do for what we've done to those kids",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nThey’ll still be traumatized for the rest of their lives. Drug addiction, depression, suicides will plague these children. If there were any justice, the architects of this policy should be charged with crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nTypical go to of Christian nationalists is to steal children.",
">\n\nI guess the conservatives are ok as long it isn't their child or children.",
">\n\nI want to remind everyone here that Trump's ICE not only separated countless children from their parents, they then \"LOST\" them. Trafficked. They trafficked them. But they called them \"lost\". Then, in an absolutely astounding act of evil and affirmation of cruelty, they released the numbers to the public: 1488 lost children.\nYes. That's right. 1488, the same number literal nazis hold sacred.\nThe depth of evil and abuse and violence the right has descended to should be SO MUCH more alarming to more people. In case you think the assertion that the children were trafficked is alarmist please remember when they caught ICE transporting children without paperwork in the dead of night or keeping children in hotels without due process then sending them back to mexico with no transition process so they were essentially homeless.",
">\n\nWow. That is incredibly evil.",
">\n\nThe GOP are the Nazis come again. Time is a flat circle and most of the circle is fascism",
">\n\nNearly 75 percent is better than I expected, and they're still working. One small cause for optimism.",
">\n\nI wouldn't call it a small cause. This is pretty massive, actually following through with fixing this disgusting miscarriage of justice. I remember reading about this stuff happening and thinking that it would have to be a priority for a new administration. Glad it's being handled.",
">\n\nI remember reading this and thinking ‘holy fucking shit’, and my view on USA has not been the same since.\nThe fact Trump still got 70+ million votes after mandating/ordering this policy is insane.",
">\n\nTrump voters tend to be low information. If they even heard about this, they heard someone on Fox/Newsmax/twitter defending it or saying it was fantastic while distorting the truth about it.",
">\n\nI’d like to think they were ignorant, but somehow it all adds up. I can’t let it go.",
">\n\nNot enough, but it’s a start.",
">\n\nCrimes against humanity.",
">\n\nJesus Christ Trump was a disaster, we're just now returning the kids to their parents though?!? The damage we caused will never go away.",
">\n\nOver 2000 were returned during the Trump administration so these are part of the harder to find parents.",
">\n\nSomething tells me this will not be on many news stations tonight.",
">\n\nFinally. This is why I voted in 2020",
">\n\nI will be enraged until the headline reads ALL!",
">\n\nUnfortunately, that might never happen given that the Trump administration managed to lose track of a bunch of them. I wish I was making that up.",
">\n\nHow about the DOJ criminally prosecute the architects and others who had a hand in this heinous crime?",
">\n\n\nAccording to figures released by the Department of Homeland Security, 3,881 children were separated from their families from 2017 to 2021. About 74% of those have been reunited with their families: 2,176 before the task force was created and 689 afterward.\nBut that still leaves nearly 1,000 children. Of those, 148 are in the reunification process. The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children.\n\nUgh, close but not close enough to fixing this mistake.",
">\n\nRemember when the Trump administration claimed that it was impossible to reunite the families?",
">\n\nWhy do we always have to clean up after Republicans? Getting tiresome.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that because the separation policy was specifically designed to deter certain kinds of people from seeking asylum, these kidnappings qualify as a crime against humanity under international law.",
">\n\nA whole bunch of them were trafficked to the upper Midwest to work the overnight shift on meat packing plant floors. It was only uncovered when one of their middle school teachers called CPS because these kids were coming in with severe chemical burns on their hands and arms. And, yes - after working the overnight shift cleaning a meat processing plant floor, these kids were going to school all day. The youngest was 12.",
">\n\nOh no. Just appalling",
">\n\nBecause it’s the right thing to do. Well done. Still going to be a long road toward healing for those poor kids.",
">\n\nI'm still stunned nobody has gone to jail for this and that the US public did not draw the line at this. It is sickening.",
">\n\nWe don’t get credit for fixing our own fuckup",
">\n\nIt is SHAMEFUL how these people were treated.",
">\n\nThat is wonderful news. Trump and his administration were so evil and cruel. I can't imagine how anyone could be so heartless.",
">\n\nHow many of these kids were molested by Trump supporters? Not zero.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to think if Trump was still POTUS, these (and likely many more) kids would still be lost.",
">\n\nNot enough is made over the evil that Trump and Stephen Miller committed during this fiasco. \nObjectively horrific, vile men.",
">\n\nNever forget there was one boy who died in his own vomit for hours before someone checked up on him. My blood still seethes thinking about it.\nHis name was Carlos Gregorio Hernandez Vasquez, he was 16 from Guatemala.",
">\n\nI'm very happy to read this. That said, the fact that this ever happened (and I don't care who it happens under) is disgusting and needs to be completely stopped from happening again.",
">\n\nThis should be much bigger news",
">\n\nHow many years were these kids without their parents in a government camp?",
">\n\nClose to four years.",
">\n\nOh yea I forgot he did this, the absolute sicko",
">\n\nThis is real oppressive fascist shit, my dear Americans. Except those who should hear this either won't read this or don't have a problem with it...",
">\n\nThis probably puts SStephen Miller in the deepest of funks.",
">\n\nGenuinely good news and a step towards righting an intentionally monstrous act.",
">\n\nhow many more are there? how many were raped? how many died?",
">\n\nIt's good to see the nation moving closer to its founding principles.",
">\n\nIf this is true, it’s the only news I heard today that I give a single fuck about. Wow. YES. Keep going. 100% reunification.",
">\n\nThere are still missing children.",
">\n\nTrAnS pEoPlE aRe GrOoMiNg OuR cHiLdReN. No, there not, and your outrage would be more effective if it targeted the POS you voted for.",
">\n\nTrump reign of terror was so barbaric.",
">\n\nThing is. .....Republicans are probably unhappy about this.",
">\n\nThis definitely put a smile on my face! :)",
">\n\nUS reunites nearly 700 kids taken from parents under ~~Trump~~ the republicans.",
">\n\nSomehow trump will take credit for this. He'll say something like how much better he made those parents appreciate their children and the children their parents. Ugh.",
">\n\nbold of you to assume he'll pay any attention at all to them.",
">\n\nHow I fucking wish \"Kids in cages\" never became the misleading rallying cry against Trump when kidnapped children was the more accurate description of what the administration was doing that needed to be stopped immediately.\nHow many times have you seen some galaxy brain talk about how \"Oh nobody says 'kids in cages' anymore now that it's ok Biden is doing it!\" Yeah it was a stupid and inaccurate criticism to begin with, because any kind of policy of detaining people caught trying to cross the border illegally will fit the \"kids in cages\" meme. \nThe entire reason people got mad at Trump beyond the border wall nonsense was because he specifically ordered a family separation policy that was designed to function as a cruel deterrent to immigration. The Obama administration was forced to adopt a family separation policy because courts ruled that minors could not be detained with adults when detained by ICE, but the Trump administration embraced this policy and added on kidnapping and forced separation across the country which resembled human trafficking more than any kind of immigration policy.\nAnd yeah, Biden is reuniting people while still maintaining a policy of not letting anyone cross the border anywhere at any time for any reason. We can talk about the ethics of detaining people caught trying to cross a national border illegally, and we should. But its an entirely separate discussion from whether one should steal their kids and ship them across the country and throw away the records of where they went.",
">\n\nAnother horrifying legacy of the US.",
">\n\nStephen Miller needs to be permanently attached to this heartless decision.",
">\n\nThe damage has been done. It's literally the least we can do is give them their children back.. I can't even believe that sentence needed to be said. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nFinally, someone thought of the children",
">\n\nYet another crime that orange gasbag will never be punished for…",
">\n\nThis chapter of Trump's presidency was truly mask off evil from the party that professes that they are the party of morals and family values. Before this people could argue that they could be afforded the benefit of the doubt. I kind of knew that Republicans were trolls and bad faith actors but then after this I knew that they really have no bottom line with how low they are willing to go. Truly evil what they did to those desperate families and kids when it would have been the easiest thing in the world to just not.",
">\n\nThis is not the same war crime Russia is doing in the Ukraine. It's a completely different war crime.",
">\n\nIt's sad and despicable that this is even necessary.",
">\n\nThis post has about 670 comments. Imagine if every single one of them was a family reunion. Heartbreaking cruelty from the last administration.",
">\n\nThe Trimp administration did a lot terrible things and had plenty of awful, harmful policies. But this is one of those times when it crossed the line into literal evil.",
">\n\nI figured this was happening in the background but damn it's heartbreaking that it's taking this long because of how thoroughly Trump fucked up any semblance of process for the DHS\nLike don't get me wrong, anyone who works for ICE is and always has been a disgusting pig, but they used to be disgusting pigs bound by similar levels of US bureaucracy as the rest of the government",
">\n\nThis was a very good thing to do and the media isn’t talking about it.",
">\n\nThis needs to be bigger news",
">\n\nWhat the hell AP, it was the US under Trump too. Maybe a better headline might have been \"Biden admin reunites nearly 700...\"",
">\n\nOur bad, we did teach the kid to walk and talk, she mostly knows to say “put your hands through the bars” but still.",
">\n\nThis is news I've been waiting 6 years for.",
">\n\nWas Eric one of them?",
">\n\nI will look for you, I will find you and I will reunite you",
">\n\nLike the motherfucking handmaids tale or some shit",
">\n\nIt's nice for the country to be taking a step back towards its ideals.",
">\n\nWhy the fuck is this not plastered all over the news? This was an international outrage for years and now it’s a tiny news story thrown in on a Friday? Whomever is in charge of the WH Press Office should be ashamed.",
">\n\nNot sure what the White House Press Office could do here if outlets simply don't bother pushing the story.",
">\n\nI want to know how many are still separated.\nEverything else is not good enough.",
">\n\nYou will need to do a slight bit of math when reading the article to get the exact number but it as about a thousand remaining to be united.",
">\n\nI feel for these kids (and their parents). Many of them have been sexually assaulted because no one was there to protect them.",
">\n\nGee, Trump reminds me of Hitler for some reason. Does anyone else see a similarity? One redeeming factor is that we all know how Hitler ended up.",
">\n\nIt is a great labor to undo great evils. \nGlad it's being done.",
">\n\nHow many in total were separated? 700 is great, but if there are still 1,000s more this should also be an equal amount of new coverage.",
">\n\nThe exact counts are in the article if you want them.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if the articles were meant to be read.",
">\n\nIt’s a good start",
">\n\nIs trump a Russian spy?\nA global traitor",
">\n\nWhen will the real criminals be put in jail?",
">\n\nvery nice to see this happen and hopefully never happens again.",
">\n\nI pray the remaining children are with US family members. This was an impeachable criminal act by Trump",
">\n\nThis was by far the most evil thing his administration did.",
">\n\nNow seperate Trump from his family.",
">\n\nI mean, damage done. If I was fleeing my home in terror from economic disaster, and the place I ran to stole my fucking kid from me, and I didn’t get them back for three years?…. I mean… that dude is a terrorist now. What is left in his life except to punish this country?",
">\n\nLock him up",
">\n\nSome good news",
">\n\nThis is not enough.",
">\n\nI was kidnapped and separated from one of my parents for a week when I was young. To be separated for such a long time… The shit is going to haunt those kids for the rest of their lives and they will likely hate those who put them through this. I know this firsthand just based how lost I felt in my experience.",
">\n\nSome good news.",
">\n\nOh, well that's good news.",
">\n\nBut I was told in 2016 that Democrats were the same as Republicans.",
">\n\nI know the mods have that thing about being courteous to others blah blah blah, but fuck trump...",
">\n\nYes, but there are still an estimated 1,000 more that they can’t even find yet. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nThe headline shouldn't exist but half the country literally voted for this to happen. It's insane. Ashamed to be an American.",
">\n\nAfter the last child is reunited with family, Melania's \"I don't really care do you\" jacket will be displayed in the Smithsonian.",
">\n\n*Biden administration reunites 700 kids taken from parents under trump",
">\n\nOnly 49,300 to go.",
">\n\nThe Trump administration was monstrous. If there is such a thing as Karma this country has a lot to pay for…",
">\n\nI hope they use this to finally lock up Trump and his goons. This is disgusting and a stain on the US.",
">\n\nThe right thing to do.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\n/r/Orphancrushingmachine",
">\n\nWhy are the Republicans such pieces of shit? The whole fucking Republican Party needs to be done away with permanently.",
">\n\nIts still happening. Reuniting kids is great and all but if the same policies that separated them still exist it doesn't mean anything",
">\n\nbelongs in /r/upliftingnews!",
">\n\nHonestly it baffles me why people see “horrendous injustice addressed after long delay” and say “/r/upliftingnews”. There’s nothing uplifting about this story, everyone should be enraged.",
">\n\nEveryone is enraged all the time about everything and then go to Reddit or Twitter to make comments which does nothing.",
">\n\nAt least enraged people acknowledge the problem. Toxic positivity does less than that.",
">\n\nGood. Shame on the previous terroristic administration for the separations in the first place.",
">\n\nBut my dad won’t be talking about this. \nOnly that Biden keeps on sending money to Ukraine and his social security is going to run out. \nIt’s kind of funny at this point.",
">\n\nRemind him that his social security will run out, but you won’t get any because we don’t fucking tax the rich like we did before the 80s.",
">\n\nGOP, the party of family values",
">\n\nPutin the dwarf and Donnie the orange-haired orangutan had a lot in common."
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"The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children. In 30 years from now we will be seeing documentaries about children who suffered permanent psychological damage at the hands of Trumps administration. People will be shocked to learn that the U.S. government focible took these peoples children and intentionally separated them to be cruel.",
">\n\nThe people who supported it will pretend they never knew anything about it and act shocked and disgusted.",
">\n\nThey already are claiming this did not happen or Obama did it or some other nonsense. Let me clear: Trump instituted a policy to forcibly separate children (including infants) from their legal asylum-seekng parents at the border. He did this to be cruel and scare people from coming. His minions then forgot to keep records of who the kids were.",
">\n\nI'd only argue with \"forgot.\" They intentionally didn't keep records so as to make it as difficult as possible to reunite these families. The cruelty was the point. In fact, they outright declared that they were doing this to try to dissuade people from coming to America. \"Try to seek asylum in America and we'll separate you from your kids who you'll never see again!\"",
">\n\n\"The laws are the laws\" = dead giveaway for a fascist. The law is there to serve the people. If it's not serving them, it should be changed.",
">\n\nWhat really gives away the game is politicians supporting and pushing through laws that do not have majority public support - anti-marijuana and abortion come to mind. Also the use of propaganda to try to affect levels of support for certain things.",
">\n\nA piece of legislation is almost always guaranteed to fail if it polls extremely popular with Americans on all sides. It's really sad...",
">\n\nYep, like “80% of Americans support this” and they’re uh… “oh but some discredited propaganda bullshit”. Really gives away who they are truly working for.",
">\n\nNo, they'll have their \"experts\" testify that they're correct. Then you find out the \"expert\" talking about MJ legalization is a LEO and the \"expert\" talking about abortion is a religious leader.",
">\n\nThe people who did this belong on trail for crimes against humanity at the Hague.\nActual consequences? Fuckin' crickets as usual.",
">\n\nReminder that under Bush the US granted itself permission to invade The Hague If an American citizen should ever be tried there.",
">\n\nWe should send Bush to be tried there.",
">\n\nTrump and his henchmen should be charged for these crimes. Of all of Trump's crimes, I think the concentration camps for immigrants and separating immigrants from their children were among the worst. We have to punish them or this will happen again next time they have the presidency.",
">\n\nAmerica doesn't punish Republican crimes.\n\nSource: Jan 6th",
">\n\nThe list of sources is very long.",
">\n\nIt starts at least with the Watergate. GWB never answered to war crimes or to lying to start a war. And Trump pardon the only person charged in the Valery Plane affair.",
">\n\nDidn't Nixon interfere with the peace process in Vietnam, extending the war so his opponent wouldn't get a win right before the election?",
">\n\nYep.",
">\n\nStephen Miller should be in a 6 x 9",
">\n\nAre there any cells smaller than that for that pea brained asshat?",
">\n\nThere’s a box",
">\n\nIf it fits it sits",
">\n\nThis program of separating parents from their children without documentation is going to be remembered in the same way we talk about the Syphilis Study at Tuskegee. Except that was the 1930s.\nOne of these days some of those kids are going to take their pound of flesh out of the United States either legally or violently, and they'll have right on their side.",
">\n\nnah, the fascists will have rewritten history in the US by then. Our kids will never learn about any of it unless we move.",
">\n\nPresident Ron Desantis III will remove it from the national curriculum.",
">\n\nProbably in a governor position he would still have that power",
">\n\nNever forget this was a crime against humanity. Conservatives supported it. Even your so called “moderate conservative friends”\nIf it had been your kid they wouldn’t give a fuck.\nIn 20 years people will call it a stain on our nation. But the sociopaths who enabled it are here right now.",
">\n\nThe sociopaths who enabled it are in a very good position to seize absolute control of our country, too.",
">\n\nDon’t forget that it’s the trump supporters that empowered the sociopaths.",
">\n\nIt boggles my mind how there isn't a bigger deal made of this. They stole kids from their parents. Any time it pops into my head, I'm infuriated. In a just world, Trump and his administration would be harshly punished.",
">\n\nSeriously. It is crime against HUMANITY",
">\n\nDOJ should throw kidnapping charges onto the pile of Trump crimes.",
">\n\nKidnapped. That's called kidnapping.",
">\n\nAbduction, human trafficking, genocide.\nTake your pick.",
">\n\nThis needs to be made into a drama doc, like the recent Jeffrey Dahmer series. I guarantee it would make a compelling story, and if done right, it would reach even strong trump supporters just by virtue of it's entertainment value. \nThis whole debacle was one of the cruelest things the US has done in decades, and it was done with Glee by a mentally unstable maniac and his supporters. The sooner we see it through the lens of history and regret, the better",
">\n\nWe better hurry before the republicans ban all history.",
">\n\nThis is only happening because trump never had a plan to reunite the families.\nFor those in the back. He ripped apart families with NO INTENTION OF THEM EVER BEING REUNITED.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. In order to create a situation like this, they had to have the intent to prevent the reuniting of families.",
">\n\nIt pains me to think how great this nation could be if the government didnt have to spend time and resources fixing the things republican admins did",
">\n\nIt's such an insane cycle. Conservatives fuck shit up, Dems finally get back in and spend the entire time fixing shit, conservatives run on \"look, they didn't make anything better!\", get back in to fuck shit up. Rinse and repeat.",
">\n\nExcept Dems (if they actually focus on it) are usually only able to fix 70ish% of the budgetary and humanitarian issues that were cause by the previous administration. Then when they lose reelection we slip further backwards.",
">\n\nWhat do you mean if?",
">\n\nIf they focus on repairing damage instead of squabbling with each other (which happens a lot).",
">\n\nAs a Mexican immigrant I really appreciate this",
">\n\nI just wish we had received the same support nationwide like BLM did.",
">\n\nOutraged Republicans demand to know why they were not sold to traffickers as they planned.",
">\n\nThink of all that could have been accomplished in the same time with the same effort if we didn't need them to focus on this. Every Democratic administration is hobbled by needing to undo the evils of the Republicans before them. And it doesn't go the other way because it only takes a second to wreck something, but it takes time to do things right.",
">\n\nContrarily to what the aryicle stars, they were not crossing illegaly. They came as asylum seekers, which is legal. Many (all?) of them arrived at official points of entry. These are not people who were arrested crossing the river in the middle of the night (not that it would justify taking their kids in any way).",
">\n\nOf course the Republican subs are silent on this\nFuck trump",
">\n\ngiving them all citizenship and all of their families is the least we could do for what we've done to those kids",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nThey’ll still be traumatized for the rest of their lives. Drug addiction, depression, suicides will plague these children. If there were any justice, the architects of this policy should be charged with crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nTypical go to of Christian nationalists is to steal children.",
">\n\nI guess the conservatives are ok as long it isn't their child or children.",
">\n\nI want to remind everyone here that Trump's ICE not only separated countless children from their parents, they then \"LOST\" them. Trafficked. They trafficked them. But they called them \"lost\". Then, in an absolutely astounding act of evil and affirmation of cruelty, they released the numbers to the public: 1488 lost children.\nYes. That's right. 1488, the same number literal nazis hold sacred.\nThe depth of evil and abuse and violence the right has descended to should be SO MUCH more alarming to more people. In case you think the assertion that the children were trafficked is alarmist please remember when they caught ICE transporting children without paperwork in the dead of night or keeping children in hotels without due process then sending them back to mexico with no transition process so they were essentially homeless.",
">\n\nWow. That is incredibly evil.",
">\n\nThe GOP are the Nazis come again. Time is a flat circle and most of the circle is fascism",
">\n\nNearly 75 percent is better than I expected, and they're still working. One small cause for optimism.",
">\n\nI wouldn't call it a small cause. This is pretty massive, actually following through with fixing this disgusting miscarriage of justice. I remember reading about this stuff happening and thinking that it would have to be a priority for a new administration. Glad it's being handled.",
">\n\nI remember reading this and thinking ‘holy fucking shit’, and my view on USA has not been the same since.\nThe fact Trump still got 70+ million votes after mandating/ordering this policy is insane.",
">\n\nTrump voters tend to be low information. If they even heard about this, they heard someone on Fox/Newsmax/twitter defending it or saying it was fantastic while distorting the truth about it.",
">\n\nI’d like to think they were ignorant, but somehow it all adds up. I can’t let it go.",
">\n\nNot enough, but it’s a start.",
">\n\nCrimes against humanity.",
">\n\nJesus Christ Trump was a disaster, we're just now returning the kids to their parents though?!? The damage we caused will never go away.",
">\n\nOver 2000 were returned during the Trump administration so these are part of the harder to find parents.",
">\n\nSomething tells me this will not be on many news stations tonight.",
">\n\nFinally. This is why I voted in 2020",
">\n\nI will be enraged until the headline reads ALL!",
">\n\nUnfortunately, that might never happen given that the Trump administration managed to lose track of a bunch of them. I wish I was making that up.",
">\n\nHow about the DOJ criminally prosecute the architects and others who had a hand in this heinous crime?",
">\n\n\nAccording to figures released by the Department of Homeland Security, 3,881 children were separated from their families from 2017 to 2021. About 74% of those have been reunited with their families: 2,176 before the task force was created and 689 afterward.\nBut that still leaves nearly 1,000 children. Of those, 148 are in the reunification process. The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children.\n\nUgh, close but not close enough to fixing this mistake.",
">\n\nRemember when the Trump administration claimed that it was impossible to reunite the families?",
">\n\nWhy do we always have to clean up after Republicans? Getting tiresome.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that because the separation policy was specifically designed to deter certain kinds of people from seeking asylum, these kidnappings qualify as a crime against humanity under international law.",
">\n\nA whole bunch of them were trafficked to the upper Midwest to work the overnight shift on meat packing plant floors. It was only uncovered when one of their middle school teachers called CPS because these kids were coming in with severe chemical burns on their hands and arms. And, yes - after working the overnight shift cleaning a meat processing plant floor, these kids were going to school all day. The youngest was 12.",
">\n\nOh no. Just appalling",
">\n\nBecause it’s the right thing to do. Well done. Still going to be a long road toward healing for those poor kids.",
">\n\nI'm still stunned nobody has gone to jail for this and that the US public did not draw the line at this. It is sickening.",
">\n\nWe don’t get credit for fixing our own fuckup",
">\n\nIt is SHAMEFUL how these people were treated.",
">\n\nThat is wonderful news. Trump and his administration were so evil and cruel. I can't imagine how anyone could be so heartless.",
">\n\nHow many of these kids were molested by Trump supporters? Not zero.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to think if Trump was still POTUS, these (and likely many more) kids would still be lost.",
">\n\nNot enough is made over the evil that Trump and Stephen Miller committed during this fiasco. \nObjectively horrific, vile men.",
">\n\nNever forget there was one boy who died in his own vomit for hours before someone checked up on him. My blood still seethes thinking about it.\nHis name was Carlos Gregorio Hernandez Vasquez, he was 16 from Guatemala.",
">\n\nI'm very happy to read this. That said, the fact that this ever happened (and I don't care who it happens under) is disgusting and needs to be completely stopped from happening again.",
">\n\nThis should be much bigger news",
">\n\nHow many years were these kids without their parents in a government camp?",
">\n\nClose to four years.",
">\n\nOh yea I forgot he did this, the absolute sicko",
">\n\nThis is real oppressive fascist shit, my dear Americans. Except those who should hear this either won't read this or don't have a problem with it...",
">\n\nThis probably puts SStephen Miller in the deepest of funks.",
">\n\nGenuinely good news and a step towards righting an intentionally monstrous act.",
">\n\nhow many more are there? how many were raped? how many died?",
">\n\nIt's good to see the nation moving closer to its founding principles.",
">\n\nIf this is true, it’s the only news I heard today that I give a single fuck about. Wow. YES. Keep going. 100% reunification.",
">\n\nThere are still missing children.",
">\n\nTrAnS pEoPlE aRe GrOoMiNg OuR cHiLdReN. No, there not, and your outrage would be more effective if it targeted the POS you voted for.",
">\n\nTrump reign of terror was so barbaric.",
">\n\nThing is. .....Republicans are probably unhappy about this.",
">\n\nThis definitely put a smile on my face! :)",
">\n\nUS reunites nearly 700 kids taken from parents under ~~Trump~~ the republicans.",
">\n\nSomehow trump will take credit for this. He'll say something like how much better he made those parents appreciate their children and the children their parents. Ugh.",
">\n\nbold of you to assume he'll pay any attention at all to them.",
">\n\nHow I fucking wish \"Kids in cages\" never became the misleading rallying cry against Trump when kidnapped children was the more accurate description of what the administration was doing that needed to be stopped immediately.\nHow many times have you seen some galaxy brain talk about how \"Oh nobody says 'kids in cages' anymore now that it's ok Biden is doing it!\" Yeah it was a stupid and inaccurate criticism to begin with, because any kind of policy of detaining people caught trying to cross the border illegally will fit the \"kids in cages\" meme. \nThe entire reason people got mad at Trump beyond the border wall nonsense was because he specifically ordered a family separation policy that was designed to function as a cruel deterrent to immigration. The Obama administration was forced to adopt a family separation policy because courts ruled that minors could not be detained with adults when detained by ICE, but the Trump administration embraced this policy and added on kidnapping and forced separation across the country which resembled human trafficking more than any kind of immigration policy.\nAnd yeah, Biden is reuniting people while still maintaining a policy of not letting anyone cross the border anywhere at any time for any reason. We can talk about the ethics of detaining people caught trying to cross a national border illegally, and we should. But its an entirely separate discussion from whether one should steal their kids and ship them across the country and throw away the records of where they went.",
">\n\nAnother horrifying legacy of the US.",
">\n\nStephen Miller needs to be permanently attached to this heartless decision.",
">\n\nThe damage has been done. It's literally the least we can do is give them their children back.. I can't even believe that sentence needed to be said. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nFinally, someone thought of the children",
">\n\nYet another crime that orange gasbag will never be punished for…",
">\n\nThis chapter of Trump's presidency was truly mask off evil from the party that professes that they are the party of morals and family values. Before this people could argue that they could be afforded the benefit of the doubt. I kind of knew that Republicans were trolls and bad faith actors but then after this I knew that they really have no bottom line with how low they are willing to go. Truly evil what they did to those desperate families and kids when it would have been the easiest thing in the world to just not.",
">\n\nThis is not the same war crime Russia is doing in the Ukraine. It's a completely different war crime.",
">\n\nIt's sad and despicable that this is even necessary.",
">\n\nThis post has about 670 comments. Imagine if every single one of them was a family reunion. Heartbreaking cruelty from the last administration.",
">\n\nThe Trimp administration did a lot terrible things and had plenty of awful, harmful policies. But this is one of those times when it crossed the line into literal evil.",
">\n\nI figured this was happening in the background but damn it's heartbreaking that it's taking this long because of how thoroughly Trump fucked up any semblance of process for the DHS\nLike don't get me wrong, anyone who works for ICE is and always has been a disgusting pig, but they used to be disgusting pigs bound by similar levels of US bureaucracy as the rest of the government",
">\n\nThis was a very good thing to do and the media isn’t talking about it.",
">\n\nThis needs to be bigger news",
">\n\nWhat the hell AP, it was the US under Trump too. Maybe a better headline might have been \"Biden admin reunites nearly 700...\"",
">\n\nOur bad, we did teach the kid to walk and talk, she mostly knows to say “put your hands through the bars” but still.",
">\n\nThis is news I've been waiting 6 years for.",
">\n\nWas Eric one of them?",
">\n\nI will look for you, I will find you and I will reunite you",
">\n\nLike the motherfucking handmaids tale or some shit",
">\n\nIt's nice for the country to be taking a step back towards its ideals.",
">\n\nWhy the fuck is this not plastered all over the news? This was an international outrage for years and now it’s a tiny news story thrown in on a Friday? Whomever is in charge of the WH Press Office should be ashamed.",
">\n\nNot sure what the White House Press Office could do here if outlets simply don't bother pushing the story.",
">\n\nI want to know how many are still separated.\nEverything else is not good enough.",
">\n\nYou will need to do a slight bit of math when reading the article to get the exact number but it as about a thousand remaining to be united.",
">\n\nI feel for these kids (and their parents). Many of them have been sexually assaulted because no one was there to protect them.",
">\n\nGee, Trump reminds me of Hitler for some reason. Does anyone else see a similarity? One redeeming factor is that we all know how Hitler ended up.",
">\n\nIt is a great labor to undo great evils. \nGlad it's being done.",
">\n\nHow many in total were separated? 700 is great, but if there are still 1,000s more this should also be an equal amount of new coverage.",
">\n\nThe exact counts are in the article if you want them.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if the articles were meant to be read.",
">\n\nIt’s a good start",
">\n\nIs trump a Russian spy?\nA global traitor",
">\n\nWhen will the real criminals be put in jail?",
">\n\nvery nice to see this happen and hopefully never happens again.",
">\n\nI pray the remaining children are with US family members. This was an impeachable criminal act by Trump",
">\n\nThis was by far the most evil thing his administration did.",
">\n\nNow seperate Trump from his family.",
">\n\nI mean, damage done. If I was fleeing my home in terror from economic disaster, and the place I ran to stole my fucking kid from me, and I didn’t get them back for three years?…. I mean… that dude is a terrorist now. What is left in his life except to punish this country?",
">\n\nLock him up",
">\n\nSome good news",
">\n\nThis is not enough.",
">\n\nI was kidnapped and separated from one of my parents for a week when I was young. To be separated for such a long time… The shit is going to haunt those kids for the rest of their lives and they will likely hate those who put them through this. I know this firsthand just based how lost I felt in my experience.",
">\n\nSome good news.",
">\n\nOh, well that's good news.",
">\n\nBut I was told in 2016 that Democrats were the same as Republicans.",
">\n\nI know the mods have that thing about being courteous to others blah blah blah, but fuck trump...",
">\n\nYes, but there are still an estimated 1,000 more that they can’t even find yet. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nThe headline shouldn't exist but half the country literally voted for this to happen. It's insane. Ashamed to be an American.",
">\n\nAfter the last child is reunited with family, Melania's \"I don't really care do you\" jacket will be displayed in the Smithsonian.",
">\n\n*Biden administration reunites 700 kids taken from parents under trump",
">\n\nOnly 49,300 to go.",
">\n\nThe Trump administration was monstrous. If there is such a thing as Karma this country has a lot to pay for…",
">\n\nI hope they use this to finally lock up Trump and his goons. This is disgusting and a stain on the US.",
">\n\nThe right thing to do.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\n/r/Orphancrushingmachine",
">\n\nWhy are the Republicans such pieces of shit? The whole fucking Republican Party needs to be done away with permanently.",
">\n\nIts still happening. Reuniting kids is great and all but if the same policies that separated them still exist it doesn't mean anything",
">\n\nbelongs in /r/upliftingnews!",
">\n\nHonestly it baffles me why people see “horrendous injustice addressed after long delay” and say “/r/upliftingnews”. There’s nothing uplifting about this story, everyone should be enraged.",
">\n\nEveryone is enraged all the time about everything and then go to Reddit or Twitter to make comments which does nothing.",
">\n\nAt least enraged people acknowledge the problem. Toxic positivity does less than that.",
">\n\nGood. Shame on the previous terroristic administration for the separations in the first place.",
">\n\nBut my dad won’t be talking about this. \nOnly that Biden keeps on sending money to Ukraine and his social security is going to run out. \nIt’s kind of funny at this point.",
">\n\nRemind him that his social security will run out, but you won’t get any because we don’t fucking tax the rich like we did before the 80s.",
">\n\nGOP, the party of family values",
">\n\nPutin the dwarf and Donnie the orange-haired orangutan had a lot in common.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5"
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"The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children. In 30 years from now we will be seeing documentaries about children who suffered permanent psychological damage at the hands of Trumps administration. People will be shocked to learn that the U.S. government focible took these peoples children and intentionally separated them to be cruel.",
">\n\nThe people who supported it will pretend they never knew anything about it and act shocked and disgusted.",
">\n\nThey already are claiming this did not happen or Obama did it or some other nonsense. Let me clear: Trump instituted a policy to forcibly separate children (including infants) from their legal asylum-seekng parents at the border. He did this to be cruel and scare people from coming. His minions then forgot to keep records of who the kids were.",
">\n\nI'd only argue with \"forgot.\" They intentionally didn't keep records so as to make it as difficult as possible to reunite these families. The cruelty was the point. In fact, they outright declared that they were doing this to try to dissuade people from coming to America. \"Try to seek asylum in America and we'll separate you from your kids who you'll never see again!\"",
">\n\n\"The laws are the laws\" = dead giveaway for a fascist. The law is there to serve the people. If it's not serving them, it should be changed.",
">\n\nWhat really gives away the game is politicians supporting and pushing through laws that do not have majority public support - anti-marijuana and abortion come to mind. Also the use of propaganda to try to affect levels of support for certain things.",
">\n\nA piece of legislation is almost always guaranteed to fail if it polls extremely popular with Americans on all sides. It's really sad...",
">\n\nYep, like “80% of Americans support this” and they’re uh… “oh but some discredited propaganda bullshit”. Really gives away who they are truly working for.",
">\n\nNo, they'll have their \"experts\" testify that they're correct. Then you find out the \"expert\" talking about MJ legalization is a LEO and the \"expert\" talking about abortion is a religious leader.",
">\n\nThe people who did this belong on trail for crimes against humanity at the Hague.\nActual consequences? Fuckin' crickets as usual.",
">\n\nReminder that under Bush the US granted itself permission to invade The Hague If an American citizen should ever be tried there.",
">\n\nWe should send Bush to be tried there.",
">\n\nTrump and his henchmen should be charged for these crimes. Of all of Trump's crimes, I think the concentration camps for immigrants and separating immigrants from their children were among the worst. We have to punish them or this will happen again next time they have the presidency.",
">\n\nAmerica doesn't punish Republican crimes.\n\nSource: Jan 6th",
">\n\nThe list of sources is very long.",
">\n\nIt starts at least with the Watergate. GWB never answered to war crimes or to lying to start a war. And Trump pardon the only person charged in the Valery Plane affair.",
">\n\nDidn't Nixon interfere with the peace process in Vietnam, extending the war so his opponent wouldn't get a win right before the election?",
">\n\nYep.",
">\n\nStephen Miller should be in a 6 x 9",
">\n\nAre there any cells smaller than that for that pea brained asshat?",
">\n\nThere’s a box",
">\n\nIf it fits it sits",
">\n\nThis program of separating parents from their children without documentation is going to be remembered in the same way we talk about the Syphilis Study at Tuskegee. Except that was the 1930s.\nOne of these days some of those kids are going to take their pound of flesh out of the United States either legally or violently, and they'll have right on their side.",
">\n\nnah, the fascists will have rewritten history in the US by then. Our kids will never learn about any of it unless we move.",
">\n\nPresident Ron Desantis III will remove it from the national curriculum.",
">\n\nProbably in a governor position he would still have that power",
">\n\nNever forget this was a crime against humanity. Conservatives supported it. Even your so called “moderate conservative friends”\nIf it had been your kid they wouldn’t give a fuck.\nIn 20 years people will call it a stain on our nation. But the sociopaths who enabled it are here right now.",
">\n\nThe sociopaths who enabled it are in a very good position to seize absolute control of our country, too.",
">\n\nDon’t forget that it’s the trump supporters that empowered the sociopaths.",
">\n\nIt boggles my mind how there isn't a bigger deal made of this. They stole kids from their parents. Any time it pops into my head, I'm infuriated. In a just world, Trump and his administration would be harshly punished.",
">\n\nSeriously. It is crime against HUMANITY",
">\n\nDOJ should throw kidnapping charges onto the pile of Trump crimes.",
">\n\nKidnapped. That's called kidnapping.",
">\n\nAbduction, human trafficking, genocide.\nTake your pick.",
">\n\nThis needs to be made into a drama doc, like the recent Jeffrey Dahmer series. I guarantee it would make a compelling story, and if done right, it would reach even strong trump supporters just by virtue of it's entertainment value. \nThis whole debacle was one of the cruelest things the US has done in decades, and it was done with Glee by a mentally unstable maniac and his supporters. The sooner we see it through the lens of history and regret, the better",
">\n\nWe better hurry before the republicans ban all history.",
">\n\nThis is only happening because trump never had a plan to reunite the families.\nFor those in the back. He ripped apart families with NO INTENTION OF THEM EVER BEING REUNITED.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. In order to create a situation like this, they had to have the intent to prevent the reuniting of families.",
">\n\nIt pains me to think how great this nation could be if the government didnt have to spend time and resources fixing the things republican admins did",
">\n\nIt's such an insane cycle. Conservatives fuck shit up, Dems finally get back in and spend the entire time fixing shit, conservatives run on \"look, they didn't make anything better!\", get back in to fuck shit up. Rinse and repeat.",
">\n\nExcept Dems (if they actually focus on it) are usually only able to fix 70ish% of the budgetary and humanitarian issues that were cause by the previous administration. Then when they lose reelection we slip further backwards.",
">\n\nWhat do you mean if?",
">\n\nIf they focus on repairing damage instead of squabbling with each other (which happens a lot).",
">\n\nAs a Mexican immigrant I really appreciate this",
">\n\nI just wish we had received the same support nationwide like BLM did.",
">\n\nOutraged Republicans demand to know why they were not sold to traffickers as they planned.",
">\n\nThink of all that could have been accomplished in the same time with the same effort if we didn't need them to focus on this. Every Democratic administration is hobbled by needing to undo the evils of the Republicans before them. And it doesn't go the other way because it only takes a second to wreck something, but it takes time to do things right.",
">\n\nContrarily to what the aryicle stars, they were not crossing illegaly. They came as asylum seekers, which is legal. Many (all?) of them arrived at official points of entry. These are not people who were arrested crossing the river in the middle of the night (not that it would justify taking their kids in any way).",
">\n\nOf course the Republican subs are silent on this\nFuck trump",
">\n\ngiving them all citizenship and all of their families is the least we could do for what we've done to those kids",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nThey’ll still be traumatized for the rest of their lives. Drug addiction, depression, suicides will plague these children. If there were any justice, the architects of this policy should be charged with crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nTypical go to of Christian nationalists is to steal children.",
">\n\nI guess the conservatives are ok as long it isn't their child or children.",
">\n\nI want to remind everyone here that Trump's ICE not only separated countless children from their parents, they then \"LOST\" them. Trafficked. They trafficked them. But they called them \"lost\". Then, in an absolutely astounding act of evil and affirmation of cruelty, they released the numbers to the public: 1488 lost children.\nYes. That's right. 1488, the same number literal nazis hold sacred.\nThe depth of evil and abuse and violence the right has descended to should be SO MUCH more alarming to more people. In case you think the assertion that the children were trafficked is alarmist please remember when they caught ICE transporting children without paperwork in the dead of night or keeping children in hotels without due process then sending them back to mexico with no transition process so they were essentially homeless.",
">\n\nWow. That is incredibly evil.",
">\n\nThe GOP are the Nazis come again. Time is a flat circle and most of the circle is fascism",
">\n\nNearly 75 percent is better than I expected, and they're still working. One small cause for optimism.",
">\n\nI wouldn't call it a small cause. This is pretty massive, actually following through with fixing this disgusting miscarriage of justice. I remember reading about this stuff happening and thinking that it would have to be a priority for a new administration. Glad it's being handled.",
">\n\nI remember reading this and thinking ‘holy fucking shit’, and my view on USA has not been the same since.\nThe fact Trump still got 70+ million votes after mandating/ordering this policy is insane.",
">\n\nTrump voters tend to be low information. If they even heard about this, they heard someone on Fox/Newsmax/twitter defending it or saying it was fantastic while distorting the truth about it.",
">\n\nI’d like to think they were ignorant, but somehow it all adds up. I can’t let it go.",
">\n\nNot enough, but it’s a start.",
">\n\nCrimes against humanity.",
">\n\nJesus Christ Trump was a disaster, we're just now returning the kids to their parents though?!? The damage we caused will never go away.",
">\n\nOver 2000 were returned during the Trump administration so these are part of the harder to find parents.",
">\n\nSomething tells me this will not be on many news stations tonight.",
">\n\nFinally. This is why I voted in 2020",
">\n\nI will be enraged until the headline reads ALL!",
">\n\nUnfortunately, that might never happen given that the Trump administration managed to lose track of a bunch of them. I wish I was making that up.",
">\n\nHow about the DOJ criminally prosecute the architects and others who had a hand in this heinous crime?",
">\n\n\nAccording to figures released by the Department of Homeland Security, 3,881 children were separated from their families from 2017 to 2021. About 74% of those have been reunited with their families: 2,176 before the task force was created and 689 afterward.\nBut that still leaves nearly 1,000 children. Of those, 148 are in the reunification process. The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children.\n\nUgh, close but not close enough to fixing this mistake.",
">\n\nRemember when the Trump administration claimed that it was impossible to reunite the families?",
">\n\nWhy do we always have to clean up after Republicans? Getting tiresome.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that because the separation policy was specifically designed to deter certain kinds of people from seeking asylum, these kidnappings qualify as a crime against humanity under international law.",
">\n\nA whole bunch of them were trafficked to the upper Midwest to work the overnight shift on meat packing plant floors. It was only uncovered when one of their middle school teachers called CPS because these kids were coming in with severe chemical burns on their hands and arms. And, yes - after working the overnight shift cleaning a meat processing plant floor, these kids were going to school all day. The youngest was 12.",
">\n\nOh no. Just appalling",
">\n\nBecause it’s the right thing to do. Well done. Still going to be a long road toward healing for those poor kids.",
">\n\nI'm still stunned nobody has gone to jail for this and that the US public did not draw the line at this. It is sickening.",
">\n\nWe don’t get credit for fixing our own fuckup",
">\n\nIt is SHAMEFUL how these people were treated.",
">\n\nThat is wonderful news. Trump and his administration were so evil and cruel. I can't imagine how anyone could be so heartless.",
">\n\nHow many of these kids were molested by Trump supporters? Not zero.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to think if Trump was still POTUS, these (and likely many more) kids would still be lost.",
">\n\nNot enough is made over the evil that Trump and Stephen Miller committed during this fiasco. \nObjectively horrific, vile men.",
">\n\nNever forget there was one boy who died in his own vomit for hours before someone checked up on him. My blood still seethes thinking about it.\nHis name was Carlos Gregorio Hernandez Vasquez, he was 16 from Guatemala.",
">\n\nI'm very happy to read this. That said, the fact that this ever happened (and I don't care who it happens under) is disgusting and needs to be completely stopped from happening again.",
">\n\nThis should be much bigger news",
">\n\nHow many years were these kids without their parents in a government camp?",
">\n\nClose to four years.",
">\n\nOh yea I forgot he did this, the absolute sicko",
">\n\nThis is real oppressive fascist shit, my dear Americans. Except those who should hear this either won't read this or don't have a problem with it...",
">\n\nThis probably puts SStephen Miller in the deepest of funks.",
">\n\nGenuinely good news and a step towards righting an intentionally monstrous act.",
">\n\nhow many more are there? how many were raped? how many died?",
">\n\nIt's good to see the nation moving closer to its founding principles.",
">\n\nIf this is true, it’s the only news I heard today that I give a single fuck about. Wow. YES. Keep going. 100% reunification.",
">\n\nThere are still missing children.",
">\n\nTrAnS pEoPlE aRe GrOoMiNg OuR cHiLdReN. No, there not, and your outrage would be more effective if it targeted the POS you voted for.",
">\n\nTrump reign of terror was so barbaric.",
">\n\nThing is. .....Republicans are probably unhappy about this.",
">\n\nThis definitely put a smile on my face! :)",
">\n\nUS reunites nearly 700 kids taken from parents under ~~Trump~~ the republicans.",
">\n\nSomehow trump will take credit for this. He'll say something like how much better he made those parents appreciate their children and the children their parents. Ugh.",
">\n\nbold of you to assume he'll pay any attention at all to them.",
">\n\nHow I fucking wish \"Kids in cages\" never became the misleading rallying cry against Trump when kidnapped children was the more accurate description of what the administration was doing that needed to be stopped immediately.\nHow many times have you seen some galaxy brain talk about how \"Oh nobody says 'kids in cages' anymore now that it's ok Biden is doing it!\" Yeah it was a stupid and inaccurate criticism to begin with, because any kind of policy of detaining people caught trying to cross the border illegally will fit the \"kids in cages\" meme. \nThe entire reason people got mad at Trump beyond the border wall nonsense was because he specifically ordered a family separation policy that was designed to function as a cruel deterrent to immigration. The Obama administration was forced to adopt a family separation policy because courts ruled that minors could not be detained with adults when detained by ICE, but the Trump administration embraced this policy and added on kidnapping and forced separation across the country which resembled human trafficking more than any kind of immigration policy.\nAnd yeah, Biden is reuniting people while still maintaining a policy of not letting anyone cross the border anywhere at any time for any reason. We can talk about the ethics of detaining people caught trying to cross a national border illegally, and we should. But its an entirely separate discussion from whether one should steal their kids and ship them across the country and throw away the records of where they went.",
">\n\nAnother horrifying legacy of the US.",
">\n\nStephen Miller needs to be permanently attached to this heartless decision.",
">\n\nThe damage has been done. It's literally the least we can do is give them their children back.. I can't even believe that sentence needed to be said. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nFinally, someone thought of the children",
">\n\nYet another crime that orange gasbag will never be punished for…",
">\n\nThis chapter of Trump's presidency was truly mask off evil from the party that professes that they are the party of morals and family values. Before this people could argue that they could be afforded the benefit of the doubt. I kind of knew that Republicans were trolls and bad faith actors but then after this I knew that they really have no bottom line with how low they are willing to go. Truly evil what they did to those desperate families and kids when it would have been the easiest thing in the world to just not.",
">\n\nThis is not the same war crime Russia is doing in the Ukraine. It's a completely different war crime.",
">\n\nIt's sad and despicable that this is even necessary.",
">\n\nThis post has about 670 comments. Imagine if every single one of them was a family reunion. Heartbreaking cruelty from the last administration.",
">\n\nThe Trimp administration did a lot terrible things and had plenty of awful, harmful policies. But this is one of those times when it crossed the line into literal evil.",
">\n\nI figured this was happening in the background but damn it's heartbreaking that it's taking this long because of how thoroughly Trump fucked up any semblance of process for the DHS\nLike don't get me wrong, anyone who works for ICE is and always has been a disgusting pig, but they used to be disgusting pigs bound by similar levels of US bureaucracy as the rest of the government",
">\n\nThis was a very good thing to do and the media isn’t talking about it.",
">\n\nThis needs to be bigger news",
">\n\nWhat the hell AP, it was the US under Trump too. Maybe a better headline might have been \"Biden admin reunites nearly 700...\"",
">\n\nOur bad, we did teach the kid to walk and talk, she mostly knows to say “put your hands through the bars” but still.",
">\n\nThis is news I've been waiting 6 years for.",
">\n\nWas Eric one of them?",
">\n\nI will look for you, I will find you and I will reunite you",
">\n\nLike the motherfucking handmaids tale or some shit",
">\n\nIt's nice for the country to be taking a step back towards its ideals.",
">\n\nWhy the fuck is this not plastered all over the news? This was an international outrage for years and now it’s a tiny news story thrown in on a Friday? Whomever is in charge of the WH Press Office should be ashamed.",
">\n\nNot sure what the White House Press Office could do here if outlets simply don't bother pushing the story.",
">\n\nI want to know how many are still separated.\nEverything else is not good enough.",
">\n\nYou will need to do a slight bit of math when reading the article to get the exact number but it as about a thousand remaining to be united.",
">\n\nI feel for these kids (and their parents). Many of them have been sexually assaulted because no one was there to protect them.",
">\n\nGee, Trump reminds me of Hitler for some reason. Does anyone else see a similarity? One redeeming factor is that we all know how Hitler ended up.",
">\n\nIt is a great labor to undo great evils. \nGlad it's being done.",
">\n\nHow many in total were separated? 700 is great, but if there are still 1,000s more this should also be an equal amount of new coverage.",
">\n\nThe exact counts are in the article if you want them.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if the articles were meant to be read.",
">\n\nIt’s a good start",
">\n\nIs trump a Russian spy?\nA global traitor",
">\n\nWhen will the real criminals be put in jail?",
">\n\nvery nice to see this happen and hopefully never happens again.",
">\n\nI pray the remaining children are with US family members. This was an impeachable criminal act by Trump",
">\n\nThis was by far the most evil thing his administration did.",
">\n\nNow seperate Trump from his family.",
">\n\nI mean, damage done. If I was fleeing my home in terror from economic disaster, and the place I ran to stole my fucking kid from me, and I didn’t get them back for three years?…. I mean… that dude is a terrorist now. What is left in his life except to punish this country?",
">\n\nLock him up",
">\n\nSome good news",
">\n\nThis is not enough.",
">\n\nI was kidnapped and separated from one of my parents for a week when I was young. To be separated for such a long time… The shit is going to haunt those kids for the rest of their lives and they will likely hate those who put them through this. I know this firsthand just based how lost I felt in my experience.",
">\n\nSome good news.",
">\n\nOh, well that's good news.",
">\n\nBut I was told in 2016 that Democrats were the same as Republicans.",
">\n\nI know the mods have that thing about being courteous to others blah blah blah, but fuck trump...",
">\n\nYes, but there are still an estimated 1,000 more that they can’t even find yet. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nThe headline shouldn't exist but half the country literally voted for this to happen. It's insane. Ashamed to be an American.",
">\n\nAfter the last child is reunited with family, Melania's \"I don't really care do you\" jacket will be displayed in the Smithsonian.",
">\n\n*Biden administration reunites 700 kids taken from parents under trump",
">\n\nOnly 49,300 to go.",
">\n\nThe Trump administration was monstrous. If there is such a thing as Karma this country has a lot to pay for…",
">\n\nI hope they use this to finally lock up Trump and his goons. This is disgusting and a stain on the US.",
">\n\nThe right thing to do.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\n/r/Orphancrushingmachine",
">\n\nWhy are the Republicans such pieces of shit? The whole fucking Republican Party needs to be done away with permanently.",
">\n\nIts still happening. Reuniting kids is great and all but if the same policies that separated them still exist it doesn't mean anything",
">\n\nbelongs in /r/upliftingnews!",
">\n\nHonestly it baffles me why people see “horrendous injustice addressed after long delay” and say “/r/upliftingnews”. There’s nothing uplifting about this story, everyone should be enraged.",
">\n\nEveryone is enraged all the time about everything and then go to Reddit or Twitter to make comments which does nothing.",
">\n\nAt least enraged people acknowledge the problem. Toxic positivity does less than that.",
">\n\nGood. Shame on the previous terroristic administration for the separations in the first place.",
">\n\nBut my dad won’t be talking about this. \nOnly that Biden keeps on sending money to Ukraine and his social security is going to run out. \nIt’s kind of funny at this point.",
">\n\nRemind him that his social security will run out, but you won’t get any because we don’t fucking tax the rich like we did before the 80s.",
">\n\nGOP, the party of family values",
">\n\nPutin the dwarf and Donnie the orange-haired orangutan had a lot in common.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nAlternative headline: US returns some of the kids they stole and lost"
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"The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children. In 30 years from now we will be seeing documentaries about children who suffered permanent psychological damage at the hands of Trumps administration. People will be shocked to learn that the U.S. government focible took these peoples children and intentionally separated them to be cruel.",
">\n\nThe people who supported it will pretend they never knew anything about it and act shocked and disgusted.",
">\n\nThey already are claiming this did not happen or Obama did it or some other nonsense. Let me clear: Trump instituted a policy to forcibly separate children (including infants) from their legal asylum-seekng parents at the border. He did this to be cruel and scare people from coming. His minions then forgot to keep records of who the kids were.",
">\n\nI'd only argue with \"forgot.\" They intentionally didn't keep records so as to make it as difficult as possible to reunite these families. The cruelty was the point. In fact, they outright declared that they were doing this to try to dissuade people from coming to America. \"Try to seek asylum in America and we'll separate you from your kids who you'll never see again!\"",
">\n\n\"The laws are the laws\" = dead giveaway for a fascist. The law is there to serve the people. If it's not serving them, it should be changed.",
">\n\nWhat really gives away the game is politicians supporting and pushing through laws that do not have majority public support - anti-marijuana and abortion come to mind. Also the use of propaganda to try to affect levels of support for certain things.",
">\n\nA piece of legislation is almost always guaranteed to fail if it polls extremely popular with Americans on all sides. It's really sad...",
">\n\nYep, like “80% of Americans support this” and they’re uh… “oh but some discredited propaganda bullshit”. Really gives away who they are truly working for.",
">\n\nNo, they'll have their \"experts\" testify that they're correct. Then you find out the \"expert\" talking about MJ legalization is a LEO and the \"expert\" talking about abortion is a religious leader.",
">\n\nThe people who did this belong on trail for crimes against humanity at the Hague.\nActual consequences? Fuckin' crickets as usual.",
">\n\nReminder that under Bush the US granted itself permission to invade The Hague If an American citizen should ever be tried there.",
">\n\nWe should send Bush to be tried there.",
">\n\nTrump and his henchmen should be charged for these crimes. Of all of Trump's crimes, I think the concentration camps for immigrants and separating immigrants from their children were among the worst. We have to punish them or this will happen again next time they have the presidency.",
">\n\nAmerica doesn't punish Republican crimes.\n\nSource: Jan 6th",
">\n\nThe list of sources is very long.",
">\n\nIt starts at least with the Watergate. GWB never answered to war crimes or to lying to start a war. And Trump pardon the only person charged in the Valery Plane affair.",
">\n\nDidn't Nixon interfere with the peace process in Vietnam, extending the war so his opponent wouldn't get a win right before the election?",
">\n\nYep.",
">\n\nStephen Miller should be in a 6 x 9",
">\n\nAre there any cells smaller than that for that pea brained asshat?",
">\n\nThere’s a box",
">\n\nIf it fits it sits",
">\n\nThis program of separating parents from their children without documentation is going to be remembered in the same way we talk about the Syphilis Study at Tuskegee. Except that was the 1930s.\nOne of these days some of those kids are going to take their pound of flesh out of the United States either legally or violently, and they'll have right on their side.",
">\n\nnah, the fascists will have rewritten history in the US by then. Our kids will never learn about any of it unless we move.",
">\n\nPresident Ron Desantis III will remove it from the national curriculum.",
">\n\nProbably in a governor position he would still have that power",
">\n\nNever forget this was a crime against humanity. Conservatives supported it. Even your so called “moderate conservative friends”\nIf it had been your kid they wouldn’t give a fuck.\nIn 20 years people will call it a stain on our nation. But the sociopaths who enabled it are here right now.",
">\n\nThe sociopaths who enabled it are in a very good position to seize absolute control of our country, too.",
">\n\nDon’t forget that it’s the trump supporters that empowered the sociopaths.",
">\n\nIt boggles my mind how there isn't a bigger deal made of this. They stole kids from their parents. Any time it pops into my head, I'm infuriated. In a just world, Trump and his administration would be harshly punished.",
">\n\nSeriously. It is crime against HUMANITY",
">\n\nDOJ should throw kidnapping charges onto the pile of Trump crimes.",
">\n\nKidnapped. That's called kidnapping.",
">\n\nAbduction, human trafficking, genocide.\nTake your pick.",
">\n\nThis needs to be made into a drama doc, like the recent Jeffrey Dahmer series. I guarantee it would make a compelling story, and if done right, it would reach even strong trump supporters just by virtue of it's entertainment value. \nThis whole debacle was one of the cruelest things the US has done in decades, and it was done with Glee by a mentally unstable maniac and his supporters. The sooner we see it through the lens of history and regret, the better",
">\n\nWe better hurry before the republicans ban all history.",
">\n\nThis is only happening because trump never had a plan to reunite the families.\nFor those in the back. He ripped apart families with NO INTENTION OF THEM EVER BEING REUNITED.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. In order to create a situation like this, they had to have the intent to prevent the reuniting of families.",
">\n\nIt pains me to think how great this nation could be if the government didnt have to spend time and resources fixing the things republican admins did",
">\n\nIt's such an insane cycle. Conservatives fuck shit up, Dems finally get back in and spend the entire time fixing shit, conservatives run on \"look, they didn't make anything better!\", get back in to fuck shit up. Rinse and repeat.",
">\n\nExcept Dems (if they actually focus on it) are usually only able to fix 70ish% of the budgetary and humanitarian issues that were cause by the previous administration. Then when they lose reelection we slip further backwards.",
">\n\nWhat do you mean if?",
">\n\nIf they focus on repairing damage instead of squabbling with each other (which happens a lot).",
">\n\nAs a Mexican immigrant I really appreciate this",
">\n\nI just wish we had received the same support nationwide like BLM did.",
">\n\nOutraged Republicans demand to know why they were not sold to traffickers as they planned.",
">\n\nThink of all that could have been accomplished in the same time with the same effort if we didn't need them to focus on this. Every Democratic administration is hobbled by needing to undo the evils of the Republicans before them. And it doesn't go the other way because it only takes a second to wreck something, but it takes time to do things right.",
">\n\nContrarily to what the aryicle stars, they were not crossing illegaly. They came as asylum seekers, which is legal. Many (all?) of them arrived at official points of entry. These are not people who were arrested crossing the river in the middle of the night (not that it would justify taking their kids in any way).",
">\n\nOf course the Republican subs are silent on this\nFuck trump",
">\n\ngiving them all citizenship and all of their families is the least we could do for what we've done to those kids",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nThey’ll still be traumatized for the rest of their lives. Drug addiction, depression, suicides will plague these children. If there were any justice, the architects of this policy should be charged with crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nTypical go to of Christian nationalists is to steal children.",
">\n\nI guess the conservatives are ok as long it isn't their child or children.",
">\n\nI want to remind everyone here that Trump's ICE not only separated countless children from their parents, they then \"LOST\" them. Trafficked. They trafficked them. But they called them \"lost\". Then, in an absolutely astounding act of evil and affirmation of cruelty, they released the numbers to the public: 1488 lost children.\nYes. That's right. 1488, the same number literal nazis hold sacred.\nThe depth of evil and abuse and violence the right has descended to should be SO MUCH more alarming to more people. In case you think the assertion that the children were trafficked is alarmist please remember when they caught ICE transporting children without paperwork in the dead of night or keeping children in hotels without due process then sending them back to mexico with no transition process so they were essentially homeless.",
">\n\nWow. That is incredibly evil.",
">\n\nThe GOP are the Nazis come again. Time is a flat circle and most of the circle is fascism",
">\n\nNearly 75 percent is better than I expected, and they're still working. One small cause for optimism.",
">\n\nI wouldn't call it a small cause. This is pretty massive, actually following through with fixing this disgusting miscarriage of justice. I remember reading about this stuff happening and thinking that it would have to be a priority for a new administration. Glad it's being handled.",
">\n\nI remember reading this and thinking ‘holy fucking shit’, and my view on USA has not been the same since.\nThe fact Trump still got 70+ million votes after mandating/ordering this policy is insane.",
">\n\nTrump voters tend to be low information. If they even heard about this, they heard someone on Fox/Newsmax/twitter defending it or saying it was fantastic while distorting the truth about it.",
">\n\nI’d like to think they were ignorant, but somehow it all adds up. I can’t let it go.",
">\n\nNot enough, but it’s a start.",
">\n\nCrimes against humanity.",
">\n\nJesus Christ Trump was a disaster, we're just now returning the kids to their parents though?!? The damage we caused will never go away.",
">\n\nOver 2000 were returned during the Trump administration so these are part of the harder to find parents.",
">\n\nSomething tells me this will not be on many news stations tonight.",
">\n\nFinally. This is why I voted in 2020",
">\n\nI will be enraged until the headline reads ALL!",
">\n\nUnfortunately, that might never happen given that the Trump administration managed to lose track of a bunch of them. I wish I was making that up.",
">\n\nHow about the DOJ criminally prosecute the architects and others who had a hand in this heinous crime?",
">\n\n\nAccording to figures released by the Department of Homeland Security, 3,881 children were separated from their families from 2017 to 2021. About 74% of those have been reunited with their families: 2,176 before the task force was created and 689 afterward.\nBut that still leaves nearly 1,000 children. Of those, 148 are in the reunification process. The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children.\n\nUgh, close but not close enough to fixing this mistake.",
">\n\nRemember when the Trump administration claimed that it was impossible to reunite the families?",
">\n\nWhy do we always have to clean up after Republicans? Getting tiresome.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that because the separation policy was specifically designed to deter certain kinds of people from seeking asylum, these kidnappings qualify as a crime against humanity under international law.",
">\n\nA whole bunch of them were trafficked to the upper Midwest to work the overnight shift on meat packing plant floors. It was only uncovered when one of their middle school teachers called CPS because these kids were coming in with severe chemical burns on their hands and arms. And, yes - after working the overnight shift cleaning a meat processing plant floor, these kids were going to school all day. The youngest was 12.",
">\n\nOh no. Just appalling",
">\n\nBecause it’s the right thing to do. Well done. Still going to be a long road toward healing for those poor kids.",
">\n\nI'm still stunned nobody has gone to jail for this and that the US public did not draw the line at this. It is sickening.",
">\n\nWe don’t get credit for fixing our own fuckup",
">\n\nIt is SHAMEFUL how these people were treated.",
">\n\nThat is wonderful news. Trump and his administration were so evil and cruel. I can't imagine how anyone could be so heartless.",
">\n\nHow many of these kids were molested by Trump supporters? Not zero.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to think if Trump was still POTUS, these (and likely many more) kids would still be lost.",
">\n\nNot enough is made over the evil that Trump and Stephen Miller committed during this fiasco. \nObjectively horrific, vile men.",
">\n\nNever forget there was one boy who died in his own vomit for hours before someone checked up on him. My blood still seethes thinking about it.\nHis name was Carlos Gregorio Hernandez Vasquez, he was 16 from Guatemala.",
">\n\nI'm very happy to read this. That said, the fact that this ever happened (and I don't care who it happens under) is disgusting and needs to be completely stopped from happening again.",
">\n\nThis should be much bigger news",
">\n\nHow many years were these kids without their parents in a government camp?",
">\n\nClose to four years.",
">\n\nOh yea I forgot he did this, the absolute sicko",
">\n\nThis is real oppressive fascist shit, my dear Americans. Except those who should hear this either won't read this or don't have a problem with it...",
">\n\nThis probably puts SStephen Miller in the deepest of funks.",
">\n\nGenuinely good news and a step towards righting an intentionally monstrous act.",
">\n\nhow many more are there? how many were raped? how many died?",
">\n\nIt's good to see the nation moving closer to its founding principles.",
">\n\nIf this is true, it’s the only news I heard today that I give a single fuck about. Wow. YES. Keep going. 100% reunification.",
">\n\nThere are still missing children.",
">\n\nTrAnS pEoPlE aRe GrOoMiNg OuR cHiLdReN. No, there not, and your outrage would be more effective if it targeted the POS you voted for.",
">\n\nTrump reign of terror was so barbaric.",
">\n\nThing is. .....Republicans are probably unhappy about this.",
">\n\nThis definitely put a smile on my face! :)",
">\n\nUS reunites nearly 700 kids taken from parents under ~~Trump~~ the republicans.",
">\n\nSomehow trump will take credit for this. He'll say something like how much better he made those parents appreciate their children and the children their parents. Ugh.",
">\n\nbold of you to assume he'll pay any attention at all to them.",
">\n\nHow I fucking wish \"Kids in cages\" never became the misleading rallying cry against Trump when kidnapped children was the more accurate description of what the administration was doing that needed to be stopped immediately.\nHow many times have you seen some galaxy brain talk about how \"Oh nobody says 'kids in cages' anymore now that it's ok Biden is doing it!\" Yeah it was a stupid and inaccurate criticism to begin with, because any kind of policy of detaining people caught trying to cross the border illegally will fit the \"kids in cages\" meme. \nThe entire reason people got mad at Trump beyond the border wall nonsense was because he specifically ordered a family separation policy that was designed to function as a cruel deterrent to immigration. The Obama administration was forced to adopt a family separation policy because courts ruled that minors could not be detained with adults when detained by ICE, but the Trump administration embraced this policy and added on kidnapping and forced separation across the country which resembled human trafficking more than any kind of immigration policy.\nAnd yeah, Biden is reuniting people while still maintaining a policy of not letting anyone cross the border anywhere at any time for any reason. We can talk about the ethics of detaining people caught trying to cross a national border illegally, and we should. But its an entirely separate discussion from whether one should steal their kids and ship them across the country and throw away the records of where they went.",
">\n\nAnother horrifying legacy of the US.",
">\n\nStephen Miller needs to be permanently attached to this heartless decision.",
">\n\nThe damage has been done. It's literally the least we can do is give them their children back.. I can't even believe that sentence needed to be said. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nFinally, someone thought of the children",
">\n\nYet another crime that orange gasbag will never be punished for…",
">\n\nThis chapter of Trump's presidency was truly mask off evil from the party that professes that they are the party of morals and family values. Before this people could argue that they could be afforded the benefit of the doubt. I kind of knew that Republicans were trolls and bad faith actors but then after this I knew that they really have no bottom line with how low they are willing to go. Truly evil what they did to those desperate families and kids when it would have been the easiest thing in the world to just not.",
">\n\nThis is not the same war crime Russia is doing in the Ukraine. It's a completely different war crime.",
">\n\nIt's sad and despicable that this is even necessary.",
">\n\nThis post has about 670 comments. Imagine if every single one of them was a family reunion. Heartbreaking cruelty from the last administration.",
">\n\nThe Trimp administration did a lot terrible things and had plenty of awful, harmful policies. But this is one of those times when it crossed the line into literal evil.",
">\n\nI figured this was happening in the background but damn it's heartbreaking that it's taking this long because of how thoroughly Trump fucked up any semblance of process for the DHS\nLike don't get me wrong, anyone who works for ICE is and always has been a disgusting pig, but they used to be disgusting pigs bound by similar levels of US bureaucracy as the rest of the government",
">\n\nThis was a very good thing to do and the media isn’t talking about it.",
">\n\nThis needs to be bigger news",
">\n\nWhat the hell AP, it was the US under Trump too. Maybe a better headline might have been \"Biden admin reunites nearly 700...\"",
">\n\nOur bad, we did teach the kid to walk and talk, she mostly knows to say “put your hands through the bars” but still.",
">\n\nThis is news I've been waiting 6 years for.",
">\n\nWas Eric one of them?",
">\n\nI will look for you, I will find you and I will reunite you",
">\n\nLike the motherfucking handmaids tale or some shit",
">\n\nIt's nice for the country to be taking a step back towards its ideals.",
">\n\nWhy the fuck is this not plastered all over the news? This was an international outrage for years and now it’s a tiny news story thrown in on a Friday? Whomever is in charge of the WH Press Office should be ashamed.",
">\n\nNot sure what the White House Press Office could do here if outlets simply don't bother pushing the story.",
">\n\nI want to know how many are still separated.\nEverything else is not good enough.",
">\n\nYou will need to do a slight bit of math when reading the article to get the exact number but it as about a thousand remaining to be united.",
">\n\nI feel for these kids (and their parents). Many of them have been sexually assaulted because no one was there to protect them.",
">\n\nGee, Trump reminds me of Hitler for some reason. Does anyone else see a similarity? One redeeming factor is that we all know how Hitler ended up.",
">\n\nIt is a great labor to undo great evils. \nGlad it's being done.",
">\n\nHow many in total were separated? 700 is great, but if there are still 1,000s more this should also be an equal amount of new coverage.",
">\n\nThe exact counts are in the article if you want them.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if the articles were meant to be read.",
">\n\nIt’s a good start",
">\n\nIs trump a Russian spy?\nA global traitor",
">\n\nWhen will the real criminals be put in jail?",
">\n\nvery nice to see this happen and hopefully never happens again.",
">\n\nI pray the remaining children are with US family members. This was an impeachable criminal act by Trump",
">\n\nThis was by far the most evil thing his administration did.",
">\n\nNow seperate Trump from his family.",
">\n\nI mean, damage done. If I was fleeing my home in terror from economic disaster, and the place I ran to stole my fucking kid from me, and I didn’t get them back for three years?…. I mean… that dude is a terrorist now. What is left in his life except to punish this country?",
">\n\nLock him up",
">\n\nSome good news",
">\n\nThis is not enough.",
">\n\nI was kidnapped and separated from one of my parents for a week when I was young. To be separated for such a long time… The shit is going to haunt those kids for the rest of their lives and they will likely hate those who put them through this. I know this firsthand just based how lost I felt in my experience.",
">\n\nSome good news.",
">\n\nOh, well that's good news.",
">\n\nBut I was told in 2016 that Democrats were the same as Republicans.",
">\n\nI know the mods have that thing about being courteous to others blah blah blah, but fuck trump...",
">\n\nYes, but there are still an estimated 1,000 more that they can’t even find yet. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nThe headline shouldn't exist but half the country literally voted for this to happen. It's insane. Ashamed to be an American.",
">\n\nAfter the last child is reunited with family, Melania's \"I don't really care do you\" jacket will be displayed in the Smithsonian.",
">\n\n*Biden administration reunites 700 kids taken from parents under trump",
">\n\nOnly 49,300 to go.",
">\n\nThe Trump administration was monstrous. If there is such a thing as Karma this country has a lot to pay for…",
">\n\nI hope they use this to finally lock up Trump and his goons. This is disgusting and a stain on the US.",
">\n\nThe right thing to do.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\n/r/Orphancrushingmachine",
">\n\nWhy are the Republicans such pieces of shit? The whole fucking Republican Party needs to be done away with permanently.",
">\n\nIts still happening. Reuniting kids is great and all but if the same policies that separated them still exist it doesn't mean anything",
">\n\nbelongs in /r/upliftingnews!",
">\n\nHonestly it baffles me why people see “horrendous injustice addressed after long delay” and say “/r/upliftingnews”. There’s nothing uplifting about this story, everyone should be enraged.",
">\n\nEveryone is enraged all the time about everything and then go to Reddit or Twitter to make comments which does nothing.",
">\n\nAt least enraged people acknowledge the problem. Toxic positivity does less than that.",
">\n\nGood. Shame on the previous terroristic administration for the separations in the first place.",
">\n\nBut my dad won’t be talking about this. \nOnly that Biden keeps on sending money to Ukraine and his social security is going to run out. \nIt’s kind of funny at this point.",
">\n\nRemind him that his social security will run out, but you won’t get any because we don’t fucking tax the rich like we did before the 80s.",
">\n\nGOP, the party of family values",
">\n\nPutin the dwarf and Donnie the orange-haired orangutan had a lot in common.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nAlternative headline: US returns some of the kids they stole and lost",
">\n\nPeace of garbage: Trump. Hope same happens to his children and grand children"
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Biden administration making a task force to reunite families, after being in the administration that bolstered the same organization that separated the kids is a joke lol
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"The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children. In 30 years from now we will be seeing documentaries about children who suffered permanent psychological damage at the hands of Trumps administration. People will be shocked to learn that the U.S. government focible took these peoples children and intentionally separated them to be cruel.",
">\n\nThe people who supported it will pretend they never knew anything about it and act shocked and disgusted.",
">\n\nThey already are claiming this did not happen or Obama did it or some other nonsense. Let me clear: Trump instituted a policy to forcibly separate children (including infants) from their legal asylum-seekng parents at the border. He did this to be cruel and scare people from coming. His minions then forgot to keep records of who the kids were.",
">\n\nI'd only argue with \"forgot.\" They intentionally didn't keep records so as to make it as difficult as possible to reunite these families. The cruelty was the point. In fact, they outright declared that they were doing this to try to dissuade people from coming to America. \"Try to seek asylum in America and we'll separate you from your kids who you'll never see again!\"",
">\n\n\"The laws are the laws\" = dead giveaway for a fascist. The law is there to serve the people. If it's not serving them, it should be changed.",
">\n\nWhat really gives away the game is politicians supporting and pushing through laws that do not have majority public support - anti-marijuana and abortion come to mind. Also the use of propaganda to try to affect levels of support for certain things.",
">\n\nA piece of legislation is almost always guaranteed to fail if it polls extremely popular with Americans on all sides. It's really sad...",
">\n\nYep, like “80% of Americans support this” and they’re uh… “oh but some discredited propaganda bullshit”. Really gives away who they are truly working for.",
">\n\nNo, they'll have their \"experts\" testify that they're correct. Then you find out the \"expert\" talking about MJ legalization is a LEO and the \"expert\" talking about abortion is a religious leader.",
">\n\nThe people who did this belong on trail for crimes against humanity at the Hague.\nActual consequences? Fuckin' crickets as usual.",
">\n\nReminder that under Bush the US granted itself permission to invade The Hague If an American citizen should ever be tried there.",
">\n\nWe should send Bush to be tried there.",
">\n\nTrump and his henchmen should be charged for these crimes. Of all of Trump's crimes, I think the concentration camps for immigrants and separating immigrants from their children were among the worst. We have to punish them or this will happen again next time they have the presidency.",
">\n\nAmerica doesn't punish Republican crimes.\n\nSource: Jan 6th",
">\n\nThe list of sources is very long.",
">\n\nIt starts at least with the Watergate. GWB never answered to war crimes or to lying to start a war. And Trump pardon the only person charged in the Valery Plane affair.",
">\n\nDidn't Nixon interfere with the peace process in Vietnam, extending the war so his opponent wouldn't get a win right before the election?",
">\n\nYep.",
">\n\nStephen Miller should be in a 6 x 9",
">\n\nAre there any cells smaller than that for that pea brained asshat?",
">\n\nThere’s a box",
">\n\nIf it fits it sits",
">\n\nThis program of separating parents from their children without documentation is going to be remembered in the same way we talk about the Syphilis Study at Tuskegee. Except that was the 1930s.\nOne of these days some of those kids are going to take their pound of flesh out of the United States either legally or violently, and they'll have right on their side.",
">\n\nnah, the fascists will have rewritten history in the US by then. Our kids will never learn about any of it unless we move.",
">\n\nPresident Ron Desantis III will remove it from the national curriculum.",
">\n\nProbably in a governor position he would still have that power",
">\n\nNever forget this was a crime against humanity. Conservatives supported it. Even your so called “moderate conservative friends”\nIf it had been your kid they wouldn’t give a fuck.\nIn 20 years people will call it a stain on our nation. But the sociopaths who enabled it are here right now.",
">\n\nThe sociopaths who enabled it are in a very good position to seize absolute control of our country, too.",
">\n\nDon’t forget that it’s the trump supporters that empowered the sociopaths.",
">\n\nIt boggles my mind how there isn't a bigger deal made of this. They stole kids from their parents. Any time it pops into my head, I'm infuriated. In a just world, Trump and his administration would be harshly punished.",
">\n\nSeriously. It is crime against HUMANITY",
">\n\nDOJ should throw kidnapping charges onto the pile of Trump crimes.",
">\n\nKidnapped. That's called kidnapping.",
">\n\nAbduction, human trafficking, genocide.\nTake your pick.",
">\n\nThis needs to be made into a drama doc, like the recent Jeffrey Dahmer series. I guarantee it would make a compelling story, and if done right, it would reach even strong trump supporters just by virtue of it's entertainment value. \nThis whole debacle was one of the cruelest things the US has done in decades, and it was done with Glee by a mentally unstable maniac and his supporters. The sooner we see it through the lens of history and regret, the better",
">\n\nWe better hurry before the republicans ban all history.",
">\n\nThis is only happening because trump never had a plan to reunite the families.\nFor those in the back. He ripped apart families with NO INTENTION OF THEM EVER BEING REUNITED.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. In order to create a situation like this, they had to have the intent to prevent the reuniting of families.",
">\n\nIt pains me to think how great this nation could be if the government didnt have to spend time and resources fixing the things republican admins did",
">\n\nIt's such an insane cycle. Conservatives fuck shit up, Dems finally get back in and spend the entire time fixing shit, conservatives run on \"look, they didn't make anything better!\", get back in to fuck shit up. Rinse and repeat.",
">\n\nExcept Dems (if they actually focus on it) are usually only able to fix 70ish% of the budgetary and humanitarian issues that were cause by the previous administration. Then when they lose reelection we slip further backwards.",
">\n\nWhat do you mean if?",
">\n\nIf they focus on repairing damage instead of squabbling with each other (which happens a lot).",
">\n\nAs a Mexican immigrant I really appreciate this",
">\n\nI just wish we had received the same support nationwide like BLM did.",
">\n\nOutraged Republicans demand to know why they were not sold to traffickers as they planned.",
">\n\nThink of all that could have been accomplished in the same time with the same effort if we didn't need them to focus on this. Every Democratic administration is hobbled by needing to undo the evils of the Republicans before them. And it doesn't go the other way because it only takes a second to wreck something, but it takes time to do things right.",
">\n\nContrarily to what the aryicle stars, they were not crossing illegaly. They came as asylum seekers, which is legal. Many (all?) of them arrived at official points of entry. These are not people who were arrested crossing the river in the middle of the night (not that it would justify taking their kids in any way).",
">\n\nOf course the Republican subs are silent on this\nFuck trump",
">\n\ngiving them all citizenship and all of their families is the least we could do for what we've done to those kids",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nThey’ll still be traumatized for the rest of their lives. Drug addiction, depression, suicides will plague these children. If there were any justice, the architects of this policy should be charged with crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nTypical go to of Christian nationalists is to steal children.",
">\n\nI guess the conservatives are ok as long it isn't their child or children.",
">\n\nI want to remind everyone here that Trump's ICE not only separated countless children from their parents, they then \"LOST\" them. Trafficked. They trafficked them. But they called them \"lost\". Then, in an absolutely astounding act of evil and affirmation of cruelty, they released the numbers to the public: 1488 lost children.\nYes. That's right. 1488, the same number literal nazis hold sacred.\nThe depth of evil and abuse and violence the right has descended to should be SO MUCH more alarming to more people. In case you think the assertion that the children were trafficked is alarmist please remember when they caught ICE transporting children without paperwork in the dead of night or keeping children in hotels without due process then sending them back to mexico with no transition process so they were essentially homeless.",
">\n\nWow. That is incredibly evil.",
">\n\nThe GOP are the Nazis come again. Time is a flat circle and most of the circle is fascism",
">\n\nNearly 75 percent is better than I expected, and they're still working. One small cause for optimism.",
">\n\nI wouldn't call it a small cause. This is pretty massive, actually following through with fixing this disgusting miscarriage of justice. I remember reading about this stuff happening and thinking that it would have to be a priority for a new administration. Glad it's being handled.",
">\n\nI remember reading this and thinking ‘holy fucking shit’, and my view on USA has not been the same since.\nThe fact Trump still got 70+ million votes after mandating/ordering this policy is insane.",
">\n\nTrump voters tend to be low information. If they even heard about this, they heard someone on Fox/Newsmax/twitter defending it or saying it was fantastic while distorting the truth about it.",
">\n\nI’d like to think they were ignorant, but somehow it all adds up. I can’t let it go.",
">\n\nNot enough, but it’s a start.",
">\n\nCrimes against humanity.",
">\n\nJesus Christ Trump was a disaster, we're just now returning the kids to their parents though?!? The damage we caused will never go away.",
">\n\nOver 2000 were returned during the Trump administration so these are part of the harder to find parents.",
">\n\nSomething tells me this will not be on many news stations tonight.",
">\n\nFinally. This is why I voted in 2020",
">\n\nI will be enraged until the headline reads ALL!",
">\n\nUnfortunately, that might never happen given that the Trump administration managed to lose track of a bunch of them. I wish I was making that up.",
">\n\nHow about the DOJ criminally prosecute the architects and others who had a hand in this heinous crime?",
">\n\n\nAccording to figures released by the Department of Homeland Security, 3,881 children were separated from their families from 2017 to 2021. About 74% of those have been reunited with their families: 2,176 before the task force was created and 689 afterward.\nBut that still leaves nearly 1,000 children. Of those, 148 are in the reunification process. The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children.\n\nUgh, close but not close enough to fixing this mistake.",
">\n\nRemember when the Trump administration claimed that it was impossible to reunite the families?",
">\n\nWhy do we always have to clean up after Republicans? Getting tiresome.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that because the separation policy was specifically designed to deter certain kinds of people from seeking asylum, these kidnappings qualify as a crime against humanity under international law.",
">\n\nA whole bunch of them were trafficked to the upper Midwest to work the overnight shift on meat packing plant floors. It was only uncovered when one of their middle school teachers called CPS because these kids were coming in with severe chemical burns on their hands and arms. And, yes - after working the overnight shift cleaning a meat processing plant floor, these kids were going to school all day. The youngest was 12.",
">\n\nOh no. Just appalling",
">\n\nBecause it’s the right thing to do. Well done. Still going to be a long road toward healing for those poor kids.",
">\n\nI'm still stunned nobody has gone to jail for this and that the US public did not draw the line at this. It is sickening.",
">\n\nWe don’t get credit for fixing our own fuckup",
">\n\nIt is SHAMEFUL how these people were treated.",
">\n\nThat is wonderful news. Trump and his administration were so evil and cruel. I can't imagine how anyone could be so heartless.",
">\n\nHow many of these kids were molested by Trump supporters? Not zero.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to think if Trump was still POTUS, these (and likely many more) kids would still be lost.",
">\n\nNot enough is made over the evil that Trump and Stephen Miller committed during this fiasco. \nObjectively horrific, vile men.",
">\n\nNever forget there was one boy who died in his own vomit for hours before someone checked up on him. My blood still seethes thinking about it.\nHis name was Carlos Gregorio Hernandez Vasquez, he was 16 from Guatemala.",
">\n\nI'm very happy to read this. That said, the fact that this ever happened (and I don't care who it happens under) is disgusting and needs to be completely stopped from happening again.",
">\n\nThis should be much bigger news",
">\n\nHow many years were these kids without their parents in a government camp?",
">\n\nClose to four years.",
">\n\nOh yea I forgot he did this, the absolute sicko",
">\n\nThis is real oppressive fascist shit, my dear Americans. Except those who should hear this either won't read this or don't have a problem with it...",
">\n\nThis probably puts SStephen Miller in the deepest of funks.",
">\n\nGenuinely good news and a step towards righting an intentionally monstrous act.",
">\n\nhow many more are there? how many were raped? how many died?",
">\n\nIt's good to see the nation moving closer to its founding principles.",
">\n\nIf this is true, it’s the only news I heard today that I give a single fuck about. Wow. YES. Keep going. 100% reunification.",
">\n\nThere are still missing children.",
">\n\nTrAnS pEoPlE aRe GrOoMiNg OuR cHiLdReN. No, there not, and your outrage would be more effective if it targeted the POS you voted for.",
">\n\nTrump reign of terror was so barbaric.",
">\n\nThing is. .....Republicans are probably unhappy about this.",
">\n\nThis definitely put a smile on my face! :)",
">\n\nUS reunites nearly 700 kids taken from parents under ~~Trump~~ the republicans.",
">\n\nSomehow trump will take credit for this. He'll say something like how much better he made those parents appreciate their children and the children their parents. Ugh.",
">\n\nbold of you to assume he'll pay any attention at all to them.",
">\n\nHow I fucking wish \"Kids in cages\" never became the misleading rallying cry against Trump when kidnapped children was the more accurate description of what the administration was doing that needed to be stopped immediately.\nHow many times have you seen some galaxy brain talk about how \"Oh nobody says 'kids in cages' anymore now that it's ok Biden is doing it!\" Yeah it was a stupid and inaccurate criticism to begin with, because any kind of policy of detaining people caught trying to cross the border illegally will fit the \"kids in cages\" meme. \nThe entire reason people got mad at Trump beyond the border wall nonsense was because he specifically ordered a family separation policy that was designed to function as a cruel deterrent to immigration. The Obama administration was forced to adopt a family separation policy because courts ruled that minors could not be detained with adults when detained by ICE, but the Trump administration embraced this policy and added on kidnapping and forced separation across the country which resembled human trafficking more than any kind of immigration policy.\nAnd yeah, Biden is reuniting people while still maintaining a policy of not letting anyone cross the border anywhere at any time for any reason. We can talk about the ethics of detaining people caught trying to cross a national border illegally, and we should. But its an entirely separate discussion from whether one should steal their kids and ship them across the country and throw away the records of where they went.",
">\n\nAnother horrifying legacy of the US.",
">\n\nStephen Miller needs to be permanently attached to this heartless decision.",
">\n\nThe damage has been done. It's literally the least we can do is give them their children back.. I can't even believe that sentence needed to be said. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nFinally, someone thought of the children",
">\n\nYet another crime that orange gasbag will never be punished for…",
">\n\nThis chapter of Trump's presidency was truly mask off evil from the party that professes that they are the party of morals and family values. Before this people could argue that they could be afforded the benefit of the doubt. I kind of knew that Republicans were trolls and bad faith actors but then after this I knew that they really have no bottom line with how low they are willing to go. Truly evil what they did to those desperate families and kids when it would have been the easiest thing in the world to just not.",
">\n\nThis is not the same war crime Russia is doing in the Ukraine. It's a completely different war crime.",
">\n\nIt's sad and despicable that this is even necessary.",
">\n\nThis post has about 670 comments. Imagine if every single one of them was a family reunion. Heartbreaking cruelty from the last administration.",
">\n\nThe Trimp administration did a lot terrible things and had plenty of awful, harmful policies. But this is one of those times when it crossed the line into literal evil.",
">\n\nI figured this was happening in the background but damn it's heartbreaking that it's taking this long because of how thoroughly Trump fucked up any semblance of process for the DHS\nLike don't get me wrong, anyone who works for ICE is and always has been a disgusting pig, but they used to be disgusting pigs bound by similar levels of US bureaucracy as the rest of the government",
">\n\nThis was a very good thing to do and the media isn’t talking about it.",
">\n\nThis needs to be bigger news",
">\n\nWhat the hell AP, it was the US under Trump too. Maybe a better headline might have been \"Biden admin reunites nearly 700...\"",
">\n\nOur bad, we did teach the kid to walk and talk, she mostly knows to say “put your hands through the bars” but still.",
">\n\nThis is news I've been waiting 6 years for.",
">\n\nWas Eric one of them?",
">\n\nI will look for you, I will find you and I will reunite you",
">\n\nLike the motherfucking handmaids tale or some shit",
">\n\nIt's nice for the country to be taking a step back towards its ideals.",
">\n\nWhy the fuck is this not plastered all over the news? This was an international outrage for years and now it’s a tiny news story thrown in on a Friday? Whomever is in charge of the WH Press Office should be ashamed.",
">\n\nNot sure what the White House Press Office could do here if outlets simply don't bother pushing the story.",
">\n\nI want to know how many are still separated.\nEverything else is not good enough.",
">\n\nYou will need to do a slight bit of math when reading the article to get the exact number but it as about a thousand remaining to be united.",
">\n\nI feel for these kids (and their parents). Many of them have been sexually assaulted because no one was there to protect them.",
">\n\nGee, Trump reminds me of Hitler for some reason. Does anyone else see a similarity? One redeeming factor is that we all know how Hitler ended up.",
">\n\nIt is a great labor to undo great evils. \nGlad it's being done.",
">\n\nHow many in total were separated? 700 is great, but if there are still 1,000s more this should also be an equal amount of new coverage.",
">\n\nThe exact counts are in the article if you want them.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if the articles were meant to be read.",
">\n\nIt’s a good start",
">\n\nIs trump a Russian spy?\nA global traitor",
">\n\nWhen will the real criminals be put in jail?",
">\n\nvery nice to see this happen and hopefully never happens again.",
">\n\nI pray the remaining children are with US family members. This was an impeachable criminal act by Trump",
">\n\nThis was by far the most evil thing his administration did.",
">\n\nNow seperate Trump from his family.",
">\n\nI mean, damage done. If I was fleeing my home in terror from economic disaster, and the place I ran to stole my fucking kid from me, and I didn’t get them back for three years?…. I mean… that dude is a terrorist now. What is left in his life except to punish this country?",
">\n\nLock him up",
">\n\nSome good news",
">\n\nThis is not enough.",
">\n\nI was kidnapped and separated from one of my parents for a week when I was young. To be separated for such a long time… The shit is going to haunt those kids for the rest of their lives and they will likely hate those who put them through this. I know this firsthand just based how lost I felt in my experience.",
">\n\nSome good news.",
">\n\nOh, well that's good news.",
">\n\nBut I was told in 2016 that Democrats were the same as Republicans.",
">\n\nI know the mods have that thing about being courteous to others blah blah blah, but fuck trump...",
">\n\nYes, but there are still an estimated 1,000 more that they can’t even find yet. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nThe headline shouldn't exist but half the country literally voted for this to happen. It's insane. Ashamed to be an American.",
">\n\nAfter the last child is reunited with family, Melania's \"I don't really care do you\" jacket will be displayed in the Smithsonian.",
">\n\n*Biden administration reunites 700 kids taken from parents under trump",
">\n\nOnly 49,300 to go.",
">\n\nThe Trump administration was monstrous. If there is such a thing as Karma this country has a lot to pay for…",
">\n\nI hope they use this to finally lock up Trump and his goons. This is disgusting and a stain on the US.",
">\n\nThe right thing to do.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\n/r/Orphancrushingmachine",
">\n\nWhy are the Republicans such pieces of shit? The whole fucking Republican Party needs to be done away with permanently.",
">\n\nIts still happening. Reuniting kids is great and all but if the same policies that separated them still exist it doesn't mean anything",
">\n\nbelongs in /r/upliftingnews!",
">\n\nHonestly it baffles me why people see “horrendous injustice addressed after long delay” and say “/r/upliftingnews”. There’s nothing uplifting about this story, everyone should be enraged.",
">\n\nEveryone is enraged all the time about everything and then go to Reddit or Twitter to make comments which does nothing.",
">\n\nAt least enraged people acknowledge the problem. Toxic positivity does less than that.",
">\n\nGood. Shame on the previous terroristic administration for the separations in the first place.",
">\n\nBut my dad won’t be talking about this. \nOnly that Biden keeps on sending money to Ukraine and his social security is going to run out. \nIt’s kind of funny at this point.",
">\n\nRemind him that his social security will run out, but you won’t get any because we don’t fucking tax the rich like we did before the 80s.",
">\n\nGOP, the party of family values",
">\n\nPutin the dwarf and Donnie the orange-haired orangutan had a lot in common.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nAlternative headline: US returns some of the kids they stole and lost",
">\n\nPeace of garbage: Trump. Hope same happens to his children and grand children",
">\n\nFrom the thumbnail, i was confused and worried . I thought I was about to read Jeff Bezos stole kids to work in Amazon warehouses or something. >_< don't act like it's unreasonable given the last 7 years."
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You're incorrectly conflating two issues.
Deportations have to happen if we are going to protect our borders. But we can be compassionate while deporting people, like by not over-crowding facilities, providing basic sanitary needs, and keeping families together as a unit throughout the process.
The Trump administration issued a "zero tolerance" family seperation policy. It meant that children were seperated from their families as a matter of policy, with no concern for proper record keeping to reunite the families once a verdict in their case had been reached. The administration also allowed its facilities to overcrowd, and there are many reports of inadequate sanitary supplies.
Their point was cruelty.
The policy was rescinded as soon as the Biden administration took office. | [
"The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children. In 30 years from now we will be seeing documentaries about children who suffered permanent psychological damage at the hands of Trumps administration. People will be shocked to learn that the U.S. government focible took these peoples children and intentionally separated them to be cruel.",
">\n\nThe people who supported it will pretend they never knew anything about it and act shocked and disgusted.",
">\n\nThey already are claiming this did not happen or Obama did it or some other nonsense. Let me clear: Trump instituted a policy to forcibly separate children (including infants) from their legal asylum-seekng parents at the border. He did this to be cruel and scare people from coming. His minions then forgot to keep records of who the kids were.",
">\n\nI'd only argue with \"forgot.\" They intentionally didn't keep records so as to make it as difficult as possible to reunite these families. The cruelty was the point. In fact, they outright declared that they were doing this to try to dissuade people from coming to America. \"Try to seek asylum in America and we'll separate you from your kids who you'll never see again!\"",
">\n\n\"The laws are the laws\" = dead giveaway for a fascist. The law is there to serve the people. If it's not serving them, it should be changed.",
">\n\nWhat really gives away the game is politicians supporting and pushing through laws that do not have majority public support - anti-marijuana and abortion come to mind. Also the use of propaganda to try to affect levels of support for certain things.",
">\n\nA piece of legislation is almost always guaranteed to fail if it polls extremely popular with Americans on all sides. It's really sad...",
">\n\nYep, like “80% of Americans support this” and they’re uh… “oh but some discredited propaganda bullshit”. Really gives away who they are truly working for.",
">\n\nNo, they'll have their \"experts\" testify that they're correct. Then you find out the \"expert\" talking about MJ legalization is a LEO and the \"expert\" talking about abortion is a religious leader.",
">\n\nThe people who did this belong on trail for crimes against humanity at the Hague.\nActual consequences? Fuckin' crickets as usual.",
">\n\nReminder that under Bush the US granted itself permission to invade The Hague If an American citizen should ever be tried there.",
">\n\nWe should send Bush to be tried there.",
">\n\nTrump and his henchmen should be charged for these crimes. Of all of Trump's crimes, I think the concentration camps for immigrants and separating immigrants from their children were among the worst. We have to punish them or this will happen again next time they have the presidency.",
">\n\nAmerica doesn't punish Republican crimes.\n\nSource: Jan 6th",
">\n\nThe list of sources is very long.",
">\n\nIt starts at least with the Watergate. GWB never answered to war crimes or to lying to start a war. And Trump pardon the only person charged in the Valery Plane affair.",
">\n\nDidn't Nixon interfere with the peace process in Vietnam, extending the war so his opponent wouldn't get a win right before the election?",
">\n\nYep.",
">\n\nStephen Miller should be in a 6 x 9",
">\n\nAre there any cells smaller than that for that pea brained asshat?",
">\n\nThere’s a box",
">\n\nIf it fits it sits",
">\n\nThis program of separating parents from their children without documentation is going to be remembered in the same way we talk about the Syphilis Study at Tuskegee. Except that was the 1930s.\nOne of these days some of those kids are going to take their pound of flesh out of the United States either legally or violently, and they'll have right on their side.",
">\n\nnah, the fascists will have rewritten history in the US by then. Our kids will never learn about any of it unless we move.",
">\n\nPresident Ron Desantis III will remove it from the national curriculum.",
">\n\nProbably in a governor position he would still have that power",
">\n\nNever forget this was a crime against humanity. Conservatives supported it. Even your so called “moderate conservative friends”\nIf it had been your kid they wouldn’t give a fuck.\nIn 20 years people will call it a stain on our nation. But the sociopaths who enabled it are here right now.",
">\n\nThe sociopaths who enabled it are in a very good position to seize absolute control of our country, too.",
">\n\nDon’t forget that it’s the trump supporters that empowered the sociopaths.",
">\n\nIt boggles my mind how there isn't a bigger deal made of this. They stole kids from their parents. Any time it pops into my head, I'm infuriated. In a just world, Trump and his administration would be harshly punished.",
">\n\nSeriously. It is crime against HUMANITY",
">\n\nDOJ should throw kidnapping charges onto the pile of Trump crimes.",
">\n\nKidnapped. That's called kidnapping.",
">\n\nAbduction, human trafficking, genocide.\nTake your pick.",
">\n\nThis needs to be made into a drama doc, like the recent Jeffrey Dahmer series. I guarantee it would make a compelling story, and if done right, it would reach even strong trump supporters just by virtue of it's entertainment value. \nThis whole debacle was one of the cruelest things the US has done in decades, and it was done with Glee by a mentally unstable maniac and his supporters. The sooner we see it through the lens of history and regret, the better",
">\n\nWe better hurry before the republicans ban all history.",
">\n\nThis is only happening because trump never had a plan to reunite the families.\nFor those in the back. He ripped apart families with NO INTENTION OF THEM EVER BEING REUNITED.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. In order to create a situation like this, they had to have the intent to prevent the reuniting of families.",
">\n\nIt pains me to think how great this nation could be if the government didnt have to spend time and resources fixing the things republican admins did",
">\n\nIt's such an insane cycle. Conservatives fuck shit up, Dems finally get back in and spend the entire time fixing shit, conservatives run on \"look, they didn't make anything better!\", get back in to fuck shit up. Rinse and repeat.",
">\n\nExcept Dems (if they actually focus on it) are usually only able to fix 70ish% of the budgetary and humanitarian issues that were cause by the previous administration. Then when they lose reelection we slip further backwards.",
">\n\nWhat do you mean if?",
">\n\nIf they focus on repairing damage instead of squabbling with each other (which happens a lot).",
">\n\nAs a Mexican immigrant I really appreciate this",
">\n\nI just wish we had received the same support nationwide like BLM did.",
">\n\nOutraged Republicans demand to know why they were not sold to traffickers as they planned.",
">\n\nThink of all that could have been accomplished in the same time with the same effort if we didn't need them to focus on this. Every Democratic administration is hobbled by needing to undo the evils of the Republicans before them. And it doesn't go the other way because it only takes a second to wreck something, but it takes time to do things right.",
">\n\nContrarily to what the aryicle stars, they were not crossing illegaly. They came as asylum seekers, which is legal. Many (all?) of them arrived at official points of entry. These are not people who were arrested crossing the river in the middle of the night (not that it would justify taking their kids in any way).",
">\n\nOf course the Republican subs are silent on this\nFuck trump",
">\n\ngiving them all citizenship and all of their families is the least we could do for what we've done to those kids",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nThey’ll still be traumatized for the rest of their lives. Drug addiction, depression, suicides will plague these children. If there were any justice, the architects of this policy should be charged with crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nTypical go to of Christian nationalists is to steal children.",
">\n\nI guess the conservatives are ok as long it isn't their child or children.",
">\n\nI want to remind everyone here that Trump's ICE not only separated countless children from their parents, they then \"LOST\" them. Trafficked. They trafficked them. But they called them \"lost\". Then, in an absolutely astounding act of evil and affirmation of cruelty, they released the numbers to the public: 1488 lost children.\nYes. That's right. 1488, the same number literal nazis hold sacred.\nThe depth of evil and abuse and violence the right has descended to should be SO MUCH more alarming to more people. In case you think the assertion that the children were trafficked is alarmist please remember when they caught ICE transporting children without paperwork in the dead of night or keeping children in hotels without due process then sending them back to mexico with no transition process so they were essentially homeless.",
">\n\nWow. That is incredibly evil.",
">\n\nThe GOP are the Nazis come again. Time is a flat circle and most of the circle is fascism",
">\n\nNearly 75 percent is better than I expected, and they're still working. One small cause for optimism.",
">\n\nI wouldn't call it a small cause. This is pretty massive, actually following through with fixing this disgusting miscarriage of justice. I remember reading about this stuff happening and thinking that it would have to be a priority for a new administration. Glad it's being handled.",
">\n\nI remember reading this and thinking ‘holy fucking shit’, and my view on USA has not been the same since.\nThe fact Trump still got 70+ million votes after mandating/ordering this policy is insane.",
">\n\nTrump voters tend to be low information. If they even heard about this, they heard someone on Fox/Newsmax/twitter defending it or saying it was fantastic while distorting the truth about it.",
">\n\nI’d like to think they were ignorant, but somehow it all adds up. I can’t let it go.",
">\n\nNot enough, but it’s a start.",
">\n\nCrimes against humanity.",
">\n\nJesus Christ Trump was a disaster, we're just now returning the kids to their parents though?!? The damage we caused will never go away.",
">\n\nOver 2000 were returned during the Trump administration so these are part of the harder to find parents.",
">\n\nSomething tells me this will not be on many news stations tonight.",
">\n\nFinally. This is why I voted in 2020",
">\n\nI will be enraged until the headline reads ALL!",
">\n\nUnfortunately, that might never happen given that the Trump administration managed to lose track of a bunch of them. I wish I was making that up.",
">\n\nHow about the DOJ criminally prosecute the architects and others who had a hand in this heinous crime?",
">\n\n\nAccording to figures released by the Department of Homeland Security, 3,881 children were separated from their families from 2017 to 2021. About 74% of those have been reunited with their families: 2,176 before the task force was created and 689 afterward.\nBut that still leaves nearly 1,000 children. Of those, 148 are in the reunification process. The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children.\n\nUgh, close but not close enough to fixing this mistake.",
">\n\nRemember when the Trump administration claimed that it was impossible to reunite the families?",
">\n\nWhy do we always have to clean up after Republicans? Getting tiresome.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that because the separation policy was specifically designed to deter certain kinds of people from seeking asylum, these kidnappings qualify as a crime against humanity under international law.",
">\n\nA whole bunch of them were trafficked to the upper Midwest to work the overnight shift on meat packing plant floors. It was only uncovered when one of their middle school teachers called CPS because these kids were coming in with severe chemical burns on their hands and arms. And, yes - after working the overnight shift cleaning a meat processing plant floor, these kids were going to school all day. The youngest was 12.",
">\n\nOh no. Just appalling",
">\n\nBecause it’s the right thing to do. Well done. Still going to be a long road toward healing for those poor kids.",
">\n\nI'm still stunned nobody has gone to jail for this and that the US public did not draw the line at this. It is sickening.",
">\n\nWe don’t get credit for fixing our own fuckup",
">\n\nIt is SHAMEFUL how these people were treated.",
">\n\nThat is wonderful news. Trump and his administration were so evil and cruel. I can't imagine how anyone could be so heartless.",
">\n\nHow many of these kids were molested by Trump supporters? Not zero.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to think if Trump was still POTUS, these (and likely many more) kids would still be lost.",
">\n\nNot enough is made over the evil that Trump and Stephen Miller committed during this fiasco. \nObjectively horrific, vile men.",
">\n\nNever forget there was one boy who died in his own vomit for hours before someone checked up on him. My blood still seethes thinking about it.\nHis name was Carlos Gregorio Hernandez Vasquez, he was 16 from Guatemala.",
">\n\nI'm very happy to read this. That said, the fact that this ever happened (and I don't care who it happens under) is disgusting and needs to be completely stopped from happening again.",
">\n\nThis should be much bigger news",
">\n\nHow many years were these kids without their parents in a government camp?",
">\n\nClose to four years.",
">\n\nOh yea I forgot he did this, the absolute sicko",
">\n\nThis is real oppressive fascist shit, my dear Americans. Except those who should hear this either won't read this or don't have a problem with it...",
">\n\nThis probably puts SStephen Miller in the deepest of funks.",
">\n\nGenuinely good news and a step towards righting an intentionally monstrous act.",
">\n\nhow many more are there? how many were raped? how many died?",
">\n\nIt's good to see the nation moving closer to its founding principles.",
">\n\nIf this is true, it’s the only news I heard today that I give a single fuck about. Wow. YES. Keep going. 100% reunification.",
">\n\nThere are still missing children.",
">\n\nTrAnS pEoPlE aRe GrOoMiNg OuR cHiLdReN. No, there not, and your outrage would be more effective if it targeted the POS you voted for.",
">\n\nTrump reign of terror was so barbaric.",
">\n\nThing is. .....Republicans are probably unhappy about this.",
">\n\nThis definitely put a smile on my face! :)",
">\n\nUS reunites nearly 700 kids taken from parents under ~~Trump~~ the republicans.",
">\n\nSomehow trump will take credit for this. He'll say something like how much better he made those parents appreciate their children and the children their parents. Ugh.",
">\n\nbold of you to assume he'll pay any attention at all to them.",
">\n\nHow I fucking wish \"Kids in cages\" never became the misleading rallying cry against Trump when kidnapped children was the more accurate description of what the administration was doing that needed to be stopped immediately.\nHow many times have you seen some galaxy brain talk about how \"Oh nobody says 'kids in cages' anymore now that it's ok Biden is doing it!\" Yeah it was a stupid and inaccurate criticism to begin with, because any kind of policy of detaining people caught trying to cross the border illegally will fit the \"kids in cages\" meme. \nThe entire reason people got mad at Trump beyond the border wall nonsense was because he specifically ordered a family separation policy that was designed to function as a cruel deterrent to immigration. The Obama administration was forced to adopt a family separation policy because courts ruled that minors could not be detained with adults when detained by ICE, but the Trump administration embraced this policy and added on kidnapping and forced separation across the country which resembled human trafficking more than any kind of immigration policy.\nAnd yeah, Biden is reuniting people while still maintaining a policy of not letting anyone cross the border anywhere at any time for any reason. We can talk about the ethics of detaining people caught trying to cross a national border illegally, and we should. But its an entirely separate discussion from whether one should steal their kids and ship them across the country and throw away the records of where they went.",
">\n\nAnother horrifying legacy of the US.",
">\n\nStephen Miller needs to be permanently attached to this heartless decision.",
">\n\nThe damage has been done. It's literally the least we can do is give them their children back.. I can't even believe that sentence needed to be said. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nFinally, someone thought of the children",
">\n\nYet another crime that orange gasbag will never be punished for…",
">\n\nThis chapter of Trump's presidency was truly mask off evil from the party that professes that they are the party of morals and family values. Before this people could argue that they could be afforded the benefit of the doubt. I kind of knew that Republicans were trolls and bad faith actors but then after this I knew that they really have no bottom line with how low they are willing to go. Truly evil what they did to those desperate families and kids when it would have been the easiest thing in the world to just not.",
">\n\nThis is not the same war crime Russia is doing in the Ukraine. It's a completely different war crime.",
">\n\nIt's sad and despicable that this is even necessary.",
">\n\nThis post has about 670 comments. Imagine if every single one of them was a family reunion. Heartbreaking cruelty from the last administration.",
">\n\nThe Trimp administration did a lot terrible things and had plenty of awful, harmful policies. But this is one of those times when it crossed the line into literal evil.",
">\n\nI figured this was happening in the background but damn it's heartbreaking that it's taking this long because of how thoroughly Trump fucked up any semblance of process for the DHS\nLike don't get me wrong, anyone who works for ICE is and always has been a disgusting pig, but they used to be disgusting pigs bound by similar levels of US bureaucracy as the rest of the government",
">\n\nThis was a very good thing to do and the media isn’t talking about it.",
">\n\nThis needs to be bigger news",
">\n\nWhat the hell AP, it was the US under Trump too. Maybe a better headline might have been \"Biden admin reunites nearly 700...\"",
">\n\nOur bad, we did teach the kid to walk and talk, she mostly knows to say “put your hands through the bars” but still.",
">\n\nThis is news I've been waiting 6 years for.",
">\n\nWas Eric one of them?",
">\n\nI will look for you, I will find you and I will reunite you",
">\n\nLike the motherfucking handmaids tale or some shit",
">\n\nIt's nice for the country to be taking a step back towards its ideals.",
">\n\nWhy the fuck is this not plastered all over the news? This was an international outrage for years and now it’s a tiny news story thrown in on a Friday? Whomever is in charge of the WH Press Office should be ashamed.",
">\n\nNot sure what the White House Press Office could do here if outlets simply don't bother pushing the story.",
">\n\nI want to know how many are still separated.\nEverything else is not good enough.",
">\n\nYou will need to do a slight bit of math when reading the article to get the exact number but it as about a thousand remaining to be united.",
">\n\nI feel for these kids (and their parents). Many of them have been sexually assaulted because no one was there to protect them.",
">\n\nGee, Trump reminds me of Hitler for some reason. Does anyone else see a similarity? One redeeming factor is that we all know how Hitler ended up.",
">\n\nIt is a great labor to undo great evils. \nGlad it's being done.",
">\n\nHow many in total were separated? 700 is great, but if there are still 1,000s more this should also be an equal amount of new coverage.",
">\n\nThe exact counts are in the article if you want them.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if the articles were meant to be read.",
">\n\nIt’s a good start",
">\n\nIs trump a Russian spy?\nA global traitor",
">\n\nWhen will the real criminals be put in jail?",
">\n\nvery nice to see this happen and hopefully never happens again.",
">\n\nI pray the remaining children are with US family members. This was an impeachable criminal act by Trump",
">\n\nThis was by far the most evil thing his administration did.",
">\n\nNow seperate Trump from his family.",
">\n\nI mean, damage done. If I was fleeing my home in terror from economic disaster, and the place I ran to stole my fucking kid from me, and I didn’t get them back for three years?…. I mean… that dude is a terrorist now. What is left in his life except to punish this country?",
">\n\nLock him up",
">\n\nSome good news",
">\n\nThis is not enough.",
">\n\nI was kidnapped and separated from one of my parents for a week when I was young. To be separated for such a long time… The shit is going to haunt those kids for the rest of their lives and they will likely hate those who put them through this. I know this firsthand just based how lost I felt in my experience.",
">\n\nSome good news.",
">\n\nOh, well that's good news.",
">\n\nBut I was told in 2016 that Democrats were the same as Republicans.",
">\n\nI know the mods have that thing about being courteous to others blah blah blah, but fuck trump...",
">\n\nYes, but there are still an estimated 1,000 more that they can’t even find yet. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nThe headline shouldn't exist but half the country literally voted for this to happen. It's insane. Ashamed to be an American.",
">\n\nAfter the last child is reunited with family, Melania's \"I don't really care do you\" jacket will be displayed in the Smithsonian.",
">\n\n*Biden administration reunites 700 kids taken from parents under trump",
">\n\nOnly 49,300 to go.",
">\n\nThe Trump administration was monstrous. If there is such a thing as Karma this country has a lot to pay for…",
">\n\nI hope they use this to finally lock up Trump and his goons. This is disgusting and a stain on the US.",
">\n\nThe right thing to do.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\n/r/Orphancrushingmachine",
">\n\nWhy are the Republicans such pieces of shit? The whole fucking Republican Party needs to be done away with permanently.",
">\n\nIts still happening. Reuniting kids is great and all but if the same policies that separated them still exist it doesn't mean anything",
">\n\nbelongs in /r/upliftingnews!",
">\n\nHonestly it baffles me why people see “horrendous injustice addressed after long delay” and say “/r/upliftingnews”. There’s nothing uplifting about this story, everyone should be enraged.",
">\n\nEveryone is enraged all the time about everything and then go to Reddit or Twitter to make comments which does nothing.",
">\n\nAt least enraged people acknowledge the problem. Toxic positivity does less than that.",
">\n\nGood. Shame on the previous terroristic administration for the separations in the first place.",
">\n\nBut my dad won’t be talking about this. \nOnly that Biden keeps on sending money to Ukraine and his social security is going to run out. \nIt’s kind of funny at this point.",
">\n\nRemind him that his social security will run out, but you won’t get any because we don’t fucking tax the rich like we did before the 80s.",
">\n\nGOP, the party of family values",
">\n\nPutin the dwarf and Donnie the orange-haired orangutan had a lot in common.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nAlternative headline: US returns some of the kids they stole and lost",
">\n\nPeace of garbage: Trump. Hope same happens to his children and grand children",
">\n\nFrom the thumbnail, i was confused and worried . I thought I was about to read Jeff Bezos stole kids to work in Amazon warehouses or something. >_< don't act like it's unreasonable given the last 7 years.",
">\n\nBiden administration making a task force to reunite families, after being in the administration that bolstered the same organization that separated the kids is a joke lol\nI beg for Reddit to look at the bigger picture then just “trump bad, blue good”"
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We must protect our borders!!! 🔴 “booooooooo”
We must protect our borders!!! 🔵 “yeahhh!!!!”
You do know the majority of illegal immigration is from airplanes right? You do realize ICE in general illegally block’s asylum seekers yeah? We must protect the borders!!!
Zero tolerance, but only detaining “threats” (literally anyone a government body can deem a threat, just look at our jail system) is good! Bc framing it that was makes it better | [
"The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children. In 30 years from now we will be seeing documentaries about children who suffered permanent psychological damage at the hands of Trumps administration. People will be shocked to learn that the U.S. government focible took these peoples children and intentionally separated them to be cruel.",
">\n\nThe people who supported it will pretend they never knew anything about it and act shocked and disgusted.",
">\n\nThey already are claiming this did not happen or Obama did it or some other nonsense. Let me clear: Trump instituted a policy to forcibly separate children (including infants) from their legal asylum-seekng parents at the border. He did this to be cruel and scare people from coming. His minions then forgot to keep records of who the kids were.",
">\n\nI'd only argue with \"forgot.\" They intentionally didn't keep records so as to make it as difficult as possible to reunite these families. The cruelty was the point. In fact, they outright declared that they were doing this to try to dissuade people from coming to America. \"Try to seek asylum in America and we'll separate you from your kids who you'll never see again!\"",
">\n\n\"The laws are the laws\" = dead giveaway for a fascist. The law is there to serve the people. If it's not serving them, it should be changed.",
">\n\nWhat really gives away the game is politicians supporting and pushing through laws that do not have majority public support - anti-marijuana and abortion come to mind. Also the use of propaganda to try to affect levels of support for certain things.",
">\n\nA piece of legislation is almost always guaranteed to fail if it polls extremely popular with Americans on all sides. It's really sad...",
">\n\nYep, like “80% of Americans support this” and they’re uh… “oh but some discredited propaganda bullshit”. Really gives away who they are truly working for.",
">\n\nNo, they'll have their \"experts\" testify that they're correct. Then you find out the \"expert\" talking about MJ legalization is a LEO and the \"expert\" talking about abortion is a religious leader.",
">\n\nThe people who did this belong on trail for crimes against humanity at the Hague.\nActual consequences? Fuckin' crickets as usual.",
">\n\nReminder that under Bush the US granted itself permission to invade The Hague If an American citizen should ever be tried there.",
">\n\nWe should send Bush to be tried there.",
">\n\nTrump and his henchmen should be charged for these crimes. Of all of Trump's crimes, I think the concentration camps for immigrants and separating immigrants from their children were among the worst. We have to punish them or this will happen again next time they have the presidency.",
">\n\nAmerica doesn't punish Republican crimes.\n\nSource: Jan 6th",
">\n\nThe list of sources is very long.",
">\n\nIt starts at least with the Watergate. GWB never answered to war crimes or to lying to start a war. And Trump pardon the only person charged in the Valery Plane affair.",
">\n\nDidn't Nixon interfere with the peace process in Vietnam, extending the war so his opponent wouldn't get a win right before the election?",
">\n\nYep.",
">\n\nStephen Miller should be in a 6 x 9",
">\n\nAre there any cells smaller than that for that pea brained asshat?",
">\n\nThere’s a box",
">\n\nIf it fits it sits",
">\n\nThis program of separating parents from their children without documentation is going to be remembered in the same way we talk about the Syphilis Study at Tuskegee. Except that was the 1930s.\nOne of these days some of those kids are going to take their pound of flesh out of the United States either legally or violently, and they'll have right on their side.",
">\n\nnah, the fascists will have rewritten history in the US by then. Our kids will never learn about any of it unless we move.",
">\n\nPresident Ron Desantis III will remove it from the national curriculum.",
">\n\nProbably in a governor position he would still have that power",
">\n\nNever forget this was a crime against humanity. Conservatives supported it. Even your so called “moderate conservative friends”\nIf it had been your kid they wouldn’t give a fuck.\nIn 20 years people will call it a stain on our nation. But the sociopaths who enabled it are here right now.",
">\n\nThe sociopaths who enabled it are in a very good position to seize absolute control of our country, too.",
">\n\nDon’t forget that it’s the trump supporters that empowered the sociopaths.",
">\n\nIt boggles my mind how there isn't a bigger deal made of this. They stole kids from their parents. Any time it pops into my head, I'm infuriated. In a just world, Trump and his administration would be harshly punished.",
">\n\nSeriously. It is crime against HUMANITY",
">\n\nDOJ should throw kidnapping charges onto the pile of Trump crimes.",
">\n\nKidnapped. That's called kidnapping.",
">\n\nAbduction, human trafficking, genocide.\nTake your pick.",
">\n\nThis needs to be made into a drama doc, like the recent Jeffrey Dahmer series. I guarantee it would make a compelling story, and if done right, it would reach even strong trump supporters just by virtue of it's entertainment value. \nThis whole debacle was one of the cruelest things the US has done in decades, and it was done with Glee by a mentally unstable maniac and his supporters. The sooner we see it through the lens of history and regret, the better",
">\n\nWe better hurry before the republicans ban all history.",
">\n\nThis is only happening because trump never had a plan to reunite the families.\nFor those in the back. He ripped apart families with NO INTENTION OF THEM EVER BEING REUNITED.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. In order to create a situation like this, they had to have the intent to prevent the reuniting of families.",
">\n\nIt pains me to think how great this nation could be if the government didnt have to spend time and resources fixing the things republican admins did",
">\n\nIt's such an insane cycle. Conservatives fuck shit up, Dems finally get back in and spend the entire time fixing shit, conservatives run on \"look, they didn't make anything better!\", get back in to fuck shit up. Rinse and repeat.",
">\n\nExcept Dems (if they actually focus on it) are usually only able to fix 70ish% of the budgetary and humanitarian issues that were cause by the previous administration. Then when they lose reelection we slip further backwards.",
">\n\nWhat do you mean if?",
">\n\nIf they focus on repairing damage instead of squabbling with each other (which happens a lot).",
">\n\nAs a Mexican immigrant I really appreciate this",
">\n\nI just wish we had received the same support nationwide like BLM did.",
">\n\nOutraged Republicans demand to know why they were not sold to traffickers as they planned.",
">\n\nThink of all that could have been accomplished in the same time with the same effort if we didn't need them to focus on this. Every Democratic administration is hobbled by needing to undo the evils of the Republicans before them. And it doesn't go the other way because it only takes a second to wreck something, but it takes time to do things right.",
">\n\nContrarily to what the aryicle stars, they were not crossing illegaly. They came as asylum seekers, which is legal. Many (all?) of them arrived at official points of entry. These are not people who were arrested crossing the river in the middle of the night (not that it would justify taking their kids in any way).",
">\n\nOf course the Republican subs are silent on this\nFuck trump",
">\n\ngiving them all citizenship and all of their families is the least we could do for what we've done to those kids",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nThey’ll still be traumatized for the rest of their lives. Drug addiction, depression, suicides will plague these children. If there were any justice, the architects of this policy should be charged with crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nTypical go to of Christian nationalists is to steal children.",
">\n\nI guess the conservatives are ok as long it isn't their child or children.",
">\n\nI want to remind everyone here that Trump's ICE not only separated countless children from their parents, they then \"LOST\" them. Trafficked. They trafficked them. But they called them \"lost\". Then, in an absolutely astounding act of evil and affirmation of cruelty, they released the numbers to the public: 1488 lost children.\nYes. That's right. 1488, the same number literal nazis hold sacred.\nThe depth of evil and abuse and violence the right has descended to should be SO MUCH more alarming to more people. In case you think the assertion that the children were trafficked is alarmist please remember when they caught ICE transporting children without paperwork in the dead of night or keeping children in hotels without due process then sending them back to mexico with no transition process so they were essentially homeless.",
">\n\nWow. That is incredibly evil.",
">\n\nThe GOP are the Nazis come again. Time is a flat circle and most of the circle is fascism",
">\n\nNearly 75 percent is better than I expected, and they're still working. One small cause for optimism.",
">\n\nI wouldn't call it a small cause. This is pretty massive, actually following through with fixing this disgusting miscarriage of justice. I remember reading about this stuff happening and thinking that it would have to be a priority for a new administration. Glad it's being handled.",
">\n\nI remember reading this and thinking ‘holy fucking shit’, and my view on USA has not been the same since.\nThe fact Trump still got 70+ million votes after mandating/ordering this policy is insane.",
">\n\nTrump voters tend to be low information. If they even heard about this, they heard someone on Fox/Newsmax/twitter defending it or saying it was fantastic while distorting the truth about it.",
">\n\nI’d like to think they were ignorant, but somehow it all adds up. I can’t let it go.",
">\n\nNot enough, but it’s a start.",
">\n\nCrimes against humanity.",
">\n\nJesus Christ Trump was a disaster, we're just now returning the kids to their parents though?!? The damage we caused will never go away.",
">\n\nOver 2000 were returned during the Trump administration so these are part of the harder to find parents.",
">\n\nSomething tells me this will not be on many news stations tonight.",
">\n\nFinally. This is why I voted in 2020",
">\n\nI will be enraged until the headline reads ALL!",
">\n\nUnfortunately, that might never happen given that the Trump administration managed to lose track of a bunch of them. I wish I was making that up.",
">\n\nHow about the DOJ criminally prosecute the architects and others who had a hand in this heinous crime?",
">\n\n\nAccording to figures released by the Department of Homeland Security, 3,881 children were separated from their families from 2017 to 2021. About 74% of those have been reunited with their families: 2,176 before the task force was created and 689 afterward.\nBut that still leaves nearly 1,000 children. Of those, 148 are in the reunification process. The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children.\n\nUgh, close but not close enough to fixing this mistake.",
">\n\nRemember when the Trump administration claimed that it was impossible to reunite the families?",
">\n\nWhy do we always have to clean up after Republicans? Getting tiresome.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that because the separation policy was specifically designed to deter certain kinds of people from seeking asylum, these kidnappings qualify as a crime against humanity under international law.",
">\n\nA whole bunch of them were trafficked to the upper Midwest to work the overnight shift on meat packing plant floors. It was only uncovered when one of their middle school teachers called CPS because these kids were coming in with severe chemical burns on their hands and arms. And, yes - after working the overnight shift cleaning a meat processing plant floor, these kids were going to school all day. The youngest was 12.",
">\n\nOh no. Just appalling",
">\n\nBecause it’s the right thing to do. Well done. Still going to be a long road toward healing for those poor kids.",
">\n\nI'm still stunned nobody has gone to jail for this and that the US public did not draw the line at this. It is sickening.",
">\n\nWe don’t get credit for fixing our own fuckup",
">\n\nIt is SHAMEFUL how these people were treated.",
">\n\nThat is wonderful news. Trump and his administration were so evil and cruel. I can't imagine how anyone could be so heartless.",
">\n\nHow many of these kids were molested by Trump supporters? Not zero.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to think if Trump was still POTUS, these (and likely many more) kids would still be lost.",
">\n\nNot enough is made over the evil that Trump and Stephen Miller committed during this fiasco. \nObjectively horrific, vile men.",
">\n\nNever forget there was one boy who died in his own vomit for hours before someone checked up on him. My blood still seethes thinking about it.\nHis name was Carlos Gregorio Hernandez Vasquez, he was 16 from Guatemala.",
">\n\nI'm very happy to read this. That said, the fact that this ever happened (and I don't care who it happens under) is disgusting and needs to be completely stopped from happening again.",
">\n\nThis should be much bigger news",
">\n\nHow many years were these kids without their parents in a government camp?",
">\n\nClose to four years.",
">\n\nOh yea I forgot he did this, the absolute sicko",
">\n\nThis is real oppressive fascist shit, my dear Americans. Except those who should hear this either won't read this or don't have a problem with it...",
">\n\nThis probably puts SStephen Miller in the deepest of funks.",
">\n\nGenuinely good news and a step towards righting an intentionally monstrous act.",
">\n\nhow many more are there? how many were raped? how many died?",
">\n\nIt's good to see the nation moving closer to its founding principles.",
">\n\nIf this is true, it’s the only news I heard today that I give a single fuck about. Wow. YES. Keep going. 100% reunification.",
">\n\nThere are still missing children.",
">\n\nTrAnS pEoPlE aRe GrOoMiNg OuR cHiLdReN. No, there not, and your outrage would be more effective if it targeted the POS you voted for.",
">\n\nTrump reign of terror was so barbaric.",
">\n\nThing is. .....Republicans are probably unhappy about this.",
">\n\nThis definitely put a smile on my face! :)",
">\n\nUS reunites nearly 700 kids taken from parents under ~~Trump~~ the republicans.",
">\n\nSomehow trump will take credit for this. He'll say something like how much better he made those parents appreciate their children and the children their parents. Ugh.",
">\n\nbold of you to assume he'll pay any attention at all to them.",
">\n\nHow I fucking wish \"Kids in cages\" never became the misleading rallying cry against Trump when kidnapped children was the more accurate description of what the administration was doing that needed to be stopped immediately.\nHow many times have you seen some galaxy brain talk about how \"Oh nobody says 'kids in cages' anymore now that it's ok Biden is doing it!\" Yeah it was a stupid and inaccurate criticism to begin with, because any kind of policy of detaining people caught trying to cross the border illegally will fit the \"kids in cages\" meme. \nThe entire reason people got mad at Trump beyond the border wall nonsense was because he specifically ordered a family separation policy that was designed to function as a cruel deterrent to immigration. The Obama administration was forced to adopt a family separation policy because courts ruled that minors could not be detained with adults when detained by ICE, but the Trump administration embraced this policy and added on kidnapping and forced separation across the country which resembled human trafficking more than any kind of immigration policy.\nAnd yeah, Biden is reuniting people while still maintaining a policy of not letting anyone cross the border anywhere at any time for any reason. We can talk about the ethics of detaining people caught trying to cross a national border illegally, and we should. But its an entirely separate discussion from whether one should steal their kids and ship them across the country and throw away the records of where they went.",
">\n\nAnother horrifying legacy of the US.",
">\n\nStephen Miller needs to be permanently attached to this heartless decision.",
">\n\nThe damage has been done. It's literally the least we can do is give them their children back.. I can't even believe that sentence needed to be said. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nFinally, someone thought of the children",
">\n\nYet another crime that orange gasbag will never be punished for…",
">\n\nThis chapter of Trump's presidency was truly mask off evil from the party that professes that they are the party of morals and family values. Before this people could argue that they could be afforded the benefit of the doubt. I kind of knew that Republicans were trolls and bad faith actors but then after this I knew that they really have no bottom line with how low they are willing to go. Truly evil what they did to those desperate families and kids when it would have been the easiest thing in the world to just not.",
">\n\nThis is not the same war crime Russia is doing in the Ukraine. It's a completely different war crime.",
">\n\nIt's sad and despicable that this is even necessary.",
">\n\nThis post has about 670 comments. Imagine if every single one of them was a family reunion. Heartbreaking cruelty from the last administration.",
">\n\nThe Trimp administration did a lot terrible things and had plenty of awful, harmful policies. But this is one of those times when it crossed the line into literal evil.",
">\n\nI figured this was happening in the background but damn it's heartbreaking that it's taking this long because of how thoroughly Trump fucked up any semblance of process for the DHS\nLike don't get me wrong, anyone who works for ICE is and always has been a disgusting pig, but they used to be disgusting pigs bound by similar levels of US bureaucracy as the rest of the government",
">\n\nThis was a very good thing to do and the media isn’t talking about it.",
">\n\nThis needs to be bigger news",
">\n\nWhat the hell AP, it was the US under Trump too. Maybe a better headline might have been \"Biden admin reunites nearly 700...\"",
">\n\nOur bad, we did teach the kid to walk and talk, she mostly knows to say “put your hands through the bars” but still.",
">\n\nThis is news I've been waiting 6 years for.",
">\n\nWas Eric one of them?",
">\n\nI will look for you, I will find you and I will reunite you",
">\n\nLike the motherfucking handmaids tale or some shit",
">\n\nIt's nice for the country to be taking a step back towards its ideals.",
">\n\nWhy the fuck is this not plastered all over the news? This was an international outrage for years and now it’s a tiny news story thrown in on a Friday? Whomever is in charge of the WH Press Office should be ashamed.",
">\n\nNot sure what the White House Press Office could do here if outlets simply don't bother pushing the story.",
">\n\nI want to know how many are still separated.\nEverything else is not good enough.",
">\n\nYou will need to do a slight bit of math when reading the article to get the exact number but it as about a thousand remaining to be united.",
">\n\nI feel for these kids (and their parents). Many of them have been sexually assaulted because no one was there to protect them.",
">\n\nGee, Trump reminds me of Hitler for some reason. Does anyone else see a similarity? One redeeming factor is that we all know how Hitler ended up.",
">\n\nIt is a great labor to undo great evils. \nGlad it's being done.",
">\n\nHow many in total were separated? 700 is great, but if there are still 1,000s more this should also be an equal amount of new coverage.",
">\n\nThe exact counts are in the article if you want them.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if the articles were meant to be read.",
">\n\nIt’s a good start",
">\n\nIs trump a Russian spy?\nA global traitor",
">\n\nWhen will the real criminals be put in jail?",
">\n\nvery nice to see this happen and hopefully never happens again.",
">\n\nI pray the remaining children are with US family members. This was an impeachable criminal act by Trump",
">\n\nThis was by far the most evil thing his administration did.",
">\n\nNow seperate Trump from his family.",
">\n\nI mean, damage done. If I was fleeing my home in terror from economic disaster, and the place I ran to stole my fucking kid from me, and I didn’t get them back for three years?…. I mean… that dude is a terrorist now. What is left in his life except to punish this country?",
">\n\nLock him up",
">\n\nSome good news",
">\n\nThis is not enough.",
">\n\nI was kidnapped and separated from one of my parents for a week when I was young. To be separated for such a long time… The shit is going to haunt those kids for the rest of their lives and they will likely hate those who put them through this. I know this firsthand just based how lost I felt in my experience.",
">\n\nSome good news.",
">\n\nOh, well that's good news.",
">\n\nBut I was told in 2016 that Democrats were the same as Republicans.",
">\n\nI know the mods have that thing about being courteous to others blah blah blah, but fuck trump...",
">\n\nYes, but there are still an estimated 1,000 more that they can’t even find yet. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nThe headline shouldn't exist but half the country literally voted for this to happen. It's insane. Ashamed to be an American.",
">\n\nAfter the last child is reunited with family, Melania's \"I don't really care do you\" jacket will be displayed in the Smithsonian.",
">\n\n*Biden administration reunites 700 kids taken from parents under trump",
">\n\nOnly 49,300 to go.",
">\n\nThe Trump administration was monstrous. If there is such a thing as Karma this country has a lot to pay for…",
">\n\nI hope they use this to finally lock up Trump and his goons. This is disgusting and a stain on the US.",
">\n\nThe right thing to do.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\n/r/Orphancrushingmachine",
">\n\nWhy are the Republicans such pieces of shit? The whole fucking Republican Party needs to be done away with permanently.",
">\n\nIts still happening. Reuniting kids is great and all but if the same policies that separated them still exist it doesn't mean anything",
">\n\nbelongs in /r/upliftingnews!",
">\n\nHonestly it baffles me why people see “horrendous injustice addressed after long delay” and say “/r/upliftingnews”. There’s nothing uplifting about this story, everyone should be enraged.",
">\n\nEveryone is enraged all the time about everything and then go to Reddit or Twitter to make comments which does nothing.",
">\n\nAt least enraged people acknowledge the problem. Toxic positivity does less than that.",
">\n\nGood. Shame on the previous terroristic administration for the separations in the first place.",
">\n\nBut my dad won’t be talking about this. \nOnly that Biden keeps on sending money to Ukraine and his social security is going to run out. \nIt’s kind of funny at this point.",
">\n\nRemind him that his social security will run out, but you won’t get any because we don’t fucking tax the rich like we did before the 80s.",
">\n\nGOP, the party of family values",
">\n\nPutin the dwarf and Donnie the orange-haired orangutan had a lot in common.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nAlternative headline: US returns some of the kids they stole and lost",
">\n\nPeace of garbage: Trump. Hope same happens to his children and grand children",
">\n\nFrom the thumbnail, i was confused and worried . I thought I was about to read Jeff Bezos stole kids to work in Amazon warehouses or something. >_< don't act like it's unreasonable given the last 7 years.",
">\n\nBiden administration making a task force to reunite families, after being in the administration that bolstered the same organization that separated the kids is a joke lol\nI beg for Reddit to look at the bigger picture then just “trump bad, blue good”",
">\n\nYou're incorrectly conflating two issues. \nDeportations have to happen if we are going to protect our borders. But we can be compassionate while deporting people, like by not over-crowding facilities, providing basic sanitary needs, and keeping families together as a unit throughout the process.\nThe Trump administration issued a \"zero tolerance\" family seperation policy. It meant that children were seperated from their families as a matter of policy, with no concern for proper record keeping to reunite the families once a verdict in their case had been reached. The administration also allowed its facilities to overcrowd, and there are many reports of inadequate sanitary supplies. \nTheir point was cruelty.\nThe policy was rescinded as soon as the Biden administration took office."
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"The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children. In 30 years from now we will be seeing documentaries about children who suffered permanent psychological damage at the hands of Trumps administration. People will be shocked to learn that the U.S. government focible took these peoples children and intentionally separated them to be cruel.",
">\n\nThe people who supported it will pretend they never knew anything about it and act shocked and disgusted.",
">\n\nThey already are claiming this did not happen or Obama did it or some other nonsense. Let me clear: Trump instituted a policy to forcibly separate children (including infants) from their legal asylum-seekng parents at the border. He did this to be cruel and scare people from coming. His minions then forgot to keep records of who the kids were.",
">\n\nI'd only argue with \"forgot.\" They intentionally didn't keep records so as to make it as difficult as possible to reunite these families. The cruelty was the point. In fact, they outright declared that they were doing this to try to dissuade people from coming to America. \"Try to seek asylum in America and we'll separate you from your kids who you'll never see again!\"",
">\n\n\"The laws are the laws\" = dead giveaway for a fascist. The law is there to serve the people. If it's not serving them, it should be changed.",
">\n\nWhat really gives away the game is politicians supporting and pushing through laws that do not have majority public support - anti-marijuana and abortion come to mind. Also the use of propaganda to try to affect levels of support for certain things.",
">\n\nA piece of legislation is almost always guaranteed to fail if it polls extremely popular with Americans on all sides. It's really sad...",
">\n\nYep, like “80% of Americans support this” and they’re uh… “oh but some discredited propaganda bullshit”. Really gives away who they are truly working for.",
">\n\nNo, they'll have their \"experts\" testify that they're correct. Then you find out the \"expert\" talking about MJ legalization is a LEO and the \"expert\" talking about abortion is a religious leader.",
">\n\nThe people who did this belong on trail for crimes against humanity at the Hague.\nActual consequences? Fuckin' crickets as usual.",
">\n\nReminder that under Bush the US granted itself permission to invade The Hague If an American citizen should ever be tried there.",
">\n\nWe should send Bush to be tried there.",
">\n\nTrump and his henchmen should be charged for these crimes. Of all of Trump's crimes, I think the concentration camps for immigrants and separating immigrants from their children were among the worst. We have to punish them or this will happen again next time they have the presidency.",
">\n\nAmerica doesn't punish Republican crimes.\n\nSource: Jan 6th",
">\n\nThe list of sources is very long.",
">\n\nIt starts at least with the Watergate. GWB never answered to war crimes or to lying to start a war. And Trump pardon the only person charged in the Valery Plane affair.",
">\n\nDidn't Nixon interfere with the peace process in Vietnam, extending the war so his opponent wouldn't get a win right before the election?",
">\n\nYep.",
">\n\nStephen Miller should be in a 6 x 9",
">\n\nAre there any cells smaller than that for that pea brained asshat?",
">\n\nThere’s a box",
">\n\nIf it fits it sits",
">\n\nThis program of separating parents from their children without documentation is going to be remembered in the same way we talk about the Syphilis Study at Tuskegee. Except that was the 1930s.\nOne of these days some of those kids are going to take their pound of flesh out of the United States either legally or violently, and they'll have right on their side.",
">\n\nnah, the fascists will have rewritten history in the US by then. Our kids will never learn about any of it unless we move.",
">\n\nPresident Ron Desantis III will remove it from the national curriculum.",
">\n\nProbably in a governor position he would still have that power",
">\n\nNever forget this was a crime against humanity. Conservatives supported it. Even your so called “moderate conservative friends”\nIf it had been your kid they wouldn’t give a fuck.\nIn 20 years people will call it a stain on our nation. But the sociopaths who enabled it are here right now.",
">\n\nThe sociopaths who enabled it are in a very good position to seize absolute control of our country, too.",
">\n\nDon’t forget that it’s the trump supporters that empowered the sociopaths.",
">\n\nIt boggles my mind how there isn't a bigger deal made of this. They stole kids from their parents. Any time it pops into my head, I'm infuriated. In a just world, Trump and his administration would be harshly punished.",
">\n\nSeriously. It is crime against HUMANITY",
">\n\nDOJ should throw kidnapping charges onto the pile of Trump crimes.",
">\n\nKidnapped. That's called kidnapping.",
">\n\nAbduction, human trafficking, genocide.\nTake your pick.",
">\n\nThis needs to be made into a drama doc, like the recent Jeffrey Dahmer series. I guarantee it would make a compelling story, and if done right, it would reach even strong trump supporters just by virtue of it's entertainment value. \nThis whole debacle was one of the cruelest things the US has done in decades, and it was done with Glee by a mentally unstable maniac and his supporters. The sooner we see it through the lens of history and regret, the better",
">\n\nWe better hurry before the republicans ban all history.",
">\n\nThis is only happening because trump never had a plan to reunite the families.\nFor those in the back. He ripped apart families with NO INTENTION OF THEM EVER BEING REUNITED.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. In order to create a situation like this, they had to have the intent to prevent the reuniting of families.",
">\n\nIt pains me to think how great this nation could be if the government didnt have to spend time and resources fixing the things republican admins did",
">\n\nIt's such an insane cycle. Conservatives fuck shit up, Dems finally get back in and spend the entire time fixing shit, conservatives run on \"look, they didn't make anything better!\", get back in to fuck shit up. Rinse and repeat.",
">\n\nExcept Dems (if they actually focus on it) are usually only able to fix 70ish% of the budgetary and humanitarian issues that were cause by the previous administration. Then when they lose reelection we slip further backwards.",
">\n\nWhat do you mean if?",
">\n\nIf they focus on repairing damage instead of squabbling with each other (which happens a lot).",
">\n\nAs a Mexican immigrant I really appreciate this",
">\n\nI just wish we had received the same support nationwide like BLM did.",
">\n\nOutraged Republicans demand to know why they were not sold to traffickers as they planned.",
">\n\nThink of all that could have been accomplished in the same time with the same effort if we didn't need them to focus on this. Every Democratic administration is hobbled by needing to undo the evils of the Republicans before them. And it doesn't go the other way because it only takes a second to wreck something, but it takes time to do things right.",
">\n\nContrarily to what the aryicle stars, they were not crossing illegaly. They came as asylum seekers, which is legal. Many (all?) of them arrived at official points of entry. These are not people who were arrested crossing the river in the middle of the night (not that it would justify taking their kids in any way).",
">\n\nOf course the Republican subs are silent on this\nFuck trump",
">\n\ngiving them all citizenship and all of their families is the least we could do for what we've done to those kids",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nThey’ll still be traumatized for the rest of their lives. Drug addiction, depression, suicides will plague these children. If there were any justice, the architects of this policy should be charged with crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nTypical go to of Christian nationalists is to steal children.",
">\n\nI guess the conservatives are ok as long it isn't their child or children.",
">\n\nI want to remind everyone here that Trump's ICE not only separated countless children from their parents, they then \"LOST\" them. Trafficked. They trafficked them. But they called them \"lost\". Then, in an absolutely astounding act of evil and affirmation of cruelty, they released the numbers to the public: 1488 lost children.\nYes. That's right. 1488, the same number literal nazis hold sacred.\nThe depth of evil and abuse and violence the right has descended to should be SO MUCH more alarming to more people. In case you think the assertion that the children were trafficked is alarmist please remember when they caught ICE transporting children without paperwork in the dead of night or keeping children in hotels without due process then sending them back to mexico with no transition process so they were essentially homeless.",
">\n\nWow. That is incredibly evil.",
">\n\nThe GOP are the Nazis come again. Time is a flat circle and most of the circle is fascism",
">\n\nNearly 75 percent is better than I expected, and they're still working. One small cause for optimism.",
">\n\nI wouldn't call it a small cause. This is pretty massive, actually following through with fixing this disgusting miscarriage of justice. I remember reading about this stuff happening and thinking that it would have to be a priority for a new administration. Glad it's being handled.",
">\n\nI remember reading this and thinking ‘holy fucking shit’, and my view on USA has not been the same since.\nThe fact Trump still got 70+ million votes after mandating/ordering this policy is insane.",
">\n\nTrump voters tend to be low information. If they even heard about this, they heard someone on Fox/Newsmax/twitter defending it or saying it was fantastic while distorting the truth about it.",
">\n\nI’d like to think they were ignorant, but somehow it all adds up. I can’t let it go.",
">\n\nNot enough, but it’s a start.",
">\n\nCrimes against humanity.",
">\n\nJesus Christ Trump was a disaster, we're just now returning the kids to their parents though?!? The damage we caused will never go away.",
">\n\nOver 2000 were returned during the Trump administration so these are part of the harder to find parents.",
">\n\nSomething tells me this will not be on many news stations tonight.",
">\n\nFinally. This is why I voted in 2020",
">\n\nI will be enraged until the headline reads ALL!",
">\n\nUnfortunately, that might never happen given that the Trump administration managed to lose track of a bunch of them. I wish I was making that up.",
">\n\nHow about the DOJ criminally prosecute the architects and others who had a hand in this heinous crime?",
">\n\n\nAccording to figures released by the Department of Homeland Security, 3,881 children were separated from their families from 2017 to 2021. About 74% of those have been reunited with their families: 2,176 before the task force was created and 689 afterward.\nBut that still leaves nearly 1,000 children. Of those, 148 are in the reunification process. The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children.\n\nUgh, close but not close enough to fixing this mistake.",
">\n\nRemember when the Trump administration claimed that it was impossible to reunite the families?",
">\n\nWhy do we always have to clean up after Republicans? Getting tiresome.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that because the separation policy was specifically designed to deter certain kinds of people from seeking asylum, these kidnappings qualify as a crime against humanity under international law.",
">\n\nA whole bunch of them were trafficked to the upper Midwest to work the overnight shift on meat packing plant floors. It was only uncovered when one of their middle school teachers called CPS because these kids were coming in with severe chemical burns on their hands and arms. And, yes - after working the overnight shift cleaning a meat processing plant floor, these kids were going to school all day. The youngest was 12.",
">\n\nOh no. Just appalling",
">\n\nBecause it’s the right thing to do. Well done. Still going to be a long road toward healing for those poor kids.",
">\n\nI'm still stunned nobody has gone to jail for this and that the US public did not draw the line at this. It is sickening.",
">\n\nWe don’t get credit for fixing our own fuckup",
">\n\nIt is SHAMEFUL how these people were treated.",
">\n\nThat is wonderful news. Trump and his administration were so evil and cruel. I can't imagine how anyone could be so heartless.",
">\n\nHow many of these kids were molested by Trump supporters? Not zero.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to think if Trump was still POTUS, these (and likely many more) kids would still be lost.",
">\n\nNot enough is made over the evil that Trump and Stephen Miller committed during this fiasco. \nObjectively horrific, vile men.",
">\n\nNever forget there was one boy who died in his own vomit for hours before someone checked up on him. My blood still seethes thinking about it.\nHis name was Carlos Gregorio Hernandez Vasquez, he was 16 from Guatemala.",
">\n\nI'm very happy to read this. That said, the fact that this ever happened (and I don't care who it happens under) is disgusting and needs to be completely stopped from happening again.",
">\n\nThis should be much bigger news",
">\n\nHow many years were these kids without their parents in a government camp?",
">\n\nClose to four years.",
">\n\nOh yea I forgot he did this, the absolute sicko",
">\n\nThis is real oppressive fascist shit, my dear Americans. Except those who should hear this either won't read this or don't have a problem with it...",
">\n\nThis probably puts SStephen Miller in the deepest of funks.",
">\n\nGenuinely good news and a step towards righting an intentionally monstrous act.",
">\n\nhow many more are there? how many were raped? how many died?",
">\n\nIt's good to see the nation moving closer to its founding principles.",
">\n\nIf this is true, it’s the only news I heard today that I give a single fuck about. Wow. YES. Keep going. 100% reunification.",
">\n\nThere are still missing children.",
">\n\nTrAnS pEoPlE aRe GrOoMiNg OuR cHiLdReN. No, there not, and your outrage would be more effective if it targeted the POS you voted for.",
">\n\nTrump reign of terror was so barbaric.",
">\n\nThing is. .....Republicans are probably unhappy about this.",
">\n\nThis definitely put a smile on my face! :)",
">\n\nUS reunites nearly 700 kids taken from parents under ~~Trump~~ the republicans.",
">\n\nSomehow trump will take credit for this. He'll say something like how much better he made those parents appreciate their children and the children their parents. Ugh.",
">\n\nbold of you to assume he'll pay any attention at all to them.",
">\n\nHow I fucking wish \"Kids in cages\" never became the misleading rallying cry against Trump when kidnapped children was the more accurate description of what the administration was doing that needed to be stopped immediately.\nHow many times have you seen some galaxy brain talk about how \"Oh nobody says 'kids in cages' anymore now that it's ok Biden is doing it!\" Yeah it was a stupid and inaccurate criticism to begin with, because any kind of policy of detaining people caught trying to cross the border illegally will fit the \"kids in cages\" meme. \nThe entire reason people got mad at Trump beyond the border wall nonsense was because he specifically ordered a family separation policy that was designed to function as a cruel deterrent to immigration. The Obama administration was forced to adopt a family separation policy because courts ruled that minors could not be detained with adults when detained by ICE, but the Trump administration embraced this policy and added on kidnapping and forced separation across the country which resembled human trafficking more than any kind of immigration policy.\nAnd yeah, Biden is reuniting people while still maintaining a policy of not letting anyone cross the border anywhere at any time for any reason. We can talk about the ethics of detaining people caught trying to cross a national border illegally, and we should. But its an entirely separate discussion from whether one should steal their kids and ship them across the country and throw away the records of where they went.",
">\n\nAnother horrifying legacy of the US.",
">\n\nStephen Miller needs to be permanently attached to this heartless decision.",
">\n\nThe damage has been done. It's literally the least we can do is give them their children back.. I can't even believe that sentence needed to be said. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nFinally, someone thought of the children",
">\n\nYet another crime that orange gasbag will never be punished for…",
">\n\nThis chapter of Trump's presidency was truly mask off evil from the party that professes that they are the party of morals and family values. Before this people could argue that they could be afforded the benefit of the doubt. I kind of knew that Republicans were trolls and bad faith actors but then after this I knew that they really have no bottom line with how low they are willing to go. Truly evil what they did to those desperate families and kids when it would have been the easiest thing in the world to just not.",
">\n\nThis is not the same war crime Russia is doing in the Ukraine. It's a completely different war crime.",
">\n\nIt's sad and despicable that this is even necessary.",
">\n\nThis post has about 670 comments. Imagine if every single one of them was a family reunion. Heartbreaking cruelty from the last administration.",
">\n\nThe Trimp administration did a lot terrible things and had plenty of awful, harmful policies. But this is one of those times when it crossed the line into literal evil.",
">\n\nI figured this was happening in the background but damn it's heartbreaking that it's taking this long because of how thoroughly Trump fucked up any semblance of process for the DHS\nLike don't get me wrong, anyone who works for ICE is and always has been a disgusting pig, but they used to be disgusting pigs bound by similar levels of US bureaucracy as the rest of the government",
">\n\nThis was a very good thing to do and the media isn’t talking about it.",
">\n\nThis needs to be bigger news",
">\n\nWhat the hell AP, it was the US under Trump too. Maybe a better headline might have been \"Biden admin reunites nearly 700...\"",
">\n\nOur bad, we did teach the kid to walk and talk, she mostly knows to say “put your hands through the bars” but still.",
">\n\nThis is news I've been waiting 6 years for.",
">\n\nWas Eric one of them?",
">\n\nI will look for you, I will find you and I will reunite you",
">\n\nLike the motherfucking handmaids tale or some shit",
">\n\nIt's nice for the country to be taking a step back towards its ideals.",
">\n\nWhy the fuck is this not plastered all over the news? This was an international outrage for years and now it’s a tiny news story thrown in on a Friday? Whomever is in charge of the WH Press Office should be ashamed.",
">\n\nNot sure what the White House Press Office could do here if outlets simply don't bother pushing the story.",
">\n\nI want to know how many are still separated.\nEverything else is not good enough.",
">\n\nYou will need to do a slight bit of math when reading the article to get the exact number but it as about a thousand remaining to be united.",
">\n\nI feel for these kids (and their parents). Many of them have been sexually assaulted because no one was there to protect them.",
">\n\nGee, Trump reminds me of Hitler for some reason. Does anyone else see a similarity? One redeeming factor is that we all know how Hitler ended up.",
">\n\nIt is a great labor to undo great evils. \nGlad it's being done.",
">\n\nHow many in total were separated? 700 is great, but if there are still 1,000s more this should also be an equal amount of new coverage.",
">\n\nThe exact counts are in the article if you want them.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if the articles were meant to be read.",
">\n\nIt’s a good start",
">\n\nIs trump a Russian spy?\nA global traitor",
">\n\nWhen will the real criminals be put in jail?",
">\n\nvery nice to see this happen and hopefully never happens again.",
">\n\nI pray the remaining children are with US family members. This was an impeachable criminal act by Trump",
">\n\nThis was by far the most evil thing his administration did.",
">\n\nNow seperate Trump from his family.",
">\n\nI mean, damage done. If I was fleeing my home in terror from economic disaster, and the place I ran to stole my fucking kid from me, and I didn’t get them back for three years?…. I mean… that dude is a terrorist now. What is left in his life except to punish this country?",
">\n\nLock him up",
">\n\nSome good news",
">\n\nThis is not enough.",
">\n\nI was kidnapped and separated from one of my parents for a week when I was young. To be separated for such a long time… The shit is going to haunt those kids for the rest of their lives and they will likely hate those who put them through this. I know this firsthand just based how lost I felt in my experience.",
">\n\nSome good news.",
">\n\nOh, well that's good news.",
">\n\nBut I was told in 2016 that Democrats were the same as Republicans.",
">\n\nI know the mods have that thing about being courteous to others blah blah blah, but fuck trump...",
">\n\nYes, but there are still an estimated 1,000 more that they can’t even find yet. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nThe headline shouldn't exist but half the country literally voted for this to happen. It's insane. Ashamed to be an American.",
">\n\nAfter the last child is reunited with family, Melania's \"I don't really care do you\" jacket will be displayed in the Smithsonian.",
">\n\n*Biden administration reunites 700 kids taken from parents under trump",
">\n\nOnly 49,300 to go.",
">\n\nThe Trump administration was monstrous. If there is such a thing as Karma this country has a lot to pay for…",
">\n\nI hope they use this to finally lock up Trump and his goons. This is disgusting and a stain on the US.",
">\n\nThe right thing to do.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\n/r/Orphancrushingmachine",
">\n\nWhy are the Republicans such pieces of shit? The whole fucking Republican Party needs to be done away with permanently.",
">\n\nIts still happening. Reuniting kids is great and all but if the same policies that separated them still exist it doesn't mean anything",
">\n\nbelongs in /r/upliftingnews!",
">\n\nHonestly it baffles me why people see “horrendous injustice addressed after long delay” and say “/r/upliftingnews”. There’s nothing uplifting about this story, everyone should be enraged.",
">\n\nEveryone is enraged all the time about everything and then go to Reddit or Twitter to make comments which does nothing.",
">\n\nAt least enraged people acknowledge the problem. Toxic positivity does less than that.",
">\n\nGood. Shame on the previous terroristic administration for the separations in the first place.",
">\n\nBut my dad won’t be talking about this. \nOnly that Biden keeps on sending money to Ukraine and his social security is going to run out. \nIt’s kind of funny at this point.",
">\n\nRemind him that his social security will run out, but you won’t get any because we don’t fucking tax the rich like we did before the 80s.",
">\n\nGOP, the party of family values",
">\n\nPutin the dwarf and Donnie the orange-haired orangutan had a lot in common.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nAlternative headline: US returns some of the kids they stole and lost",
">\n\nPeace of garbage: Trump. Hope same happens to his children and grand children",
">\n\nFrom the thumbnail, i was confused and worried . I thought I was about to read Jeff Bezos stole kids to work in Amazon warehouses or something. >_< don't act like it's unreasonable given the last 7 years.",
">\n\nBiden administration making a task force to reunite families, after being in the administration that bolstered the same organization that separated the kids is a joke lol\nI beg for Reddit to look at the bigger picture then just “trump bad, blue good”",
">\n\nYou're incorrectly conflating two issues. \nDeportations have to happen if we are going to protect our borders. But we can be compassionate while deporting people, like by not over-crowding facilities, providing basic sanitary needs, and keeping families together as a unit throughout the process.\nThe Trump administration issued a \"zero tolerance\" family seperation policy. It meant that children were seperated from their families as a matter of policy, with no concern for proper record keeping to reunite the families once a verdict in their case had been reached. The administration also allowed its facilities to overcrowd, and there are many reports of inadequate sanitary supplies. \nTheir point was cruelty.\nThe policy was rescinded as soon as the Biden administration took office.",
">\n\nWe must protect our borders!!! 🔴 “booooooooo”\nWe must protect our borders!!! 🔵 “yeahhh!!!!”\nYou do know the majority of illegal immigration is from airplanes right? You do realize ICE in general illegally block’s asylum seekers yeah? We must protect the borders!!! \nZero tolerance, but only detaining “threats” (literally anyone a government body can deem a threat, just look at our jail system) is good! Bc framing it that was makes it better"
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"The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children. In 30 years from now we will be seeing documentaries about children who suffered permanent psychological damage at the hands of Trumps administration. People will be shocked to learn that the U.S. government focible took these peoples children and intentionally separated them to be cruel.",
">\n\nThe people who supported it will pretend they never knew anything about it and act shocked and disgusted.",
">\n\nThey already are claiming this did not happen or Obama did it or some other nonsense. Let me clear: Trump instituted a policy to forcibly separate children (including infants) from their legal asylum-seekng parents at the border. He did this to be cruel and scare people from coming. His minions then forgot to keep records of who the kids were.",
">\n\nI'd only argue with \"forgot.\" They intentionally didn't keep records so as to make it as difficult as possible to reunite these families. The cruelty was the point. In fact, they outright declared that they were doing this to try to dissuade people from coming to America. \"Try to seek asylum in America and we'll separate you from your kids who you'll never see again!\"",
">\n\n\"The laws are the laws\" = dead giveaway for a fascist. The law is there to serve the people. If it's not serving them, it should be changed.",
">\n\nWhat really gives away the game is politicians supporting and pushing through laws that do not have majority public support - anti-marijuana and abortion come to mind. Also the use of propaganda to try to affect levels of support for certain things.",
">\n\nA piece of legislation is almost always guaranteed to fail if it polls extremely popular with Americans on all sides. It's really sad...",
">\n\nYep, like “80% of Americans support this” and they’re uh… “oh but some discredited propaganda bullshit”. Really gives away who they are truly working for.",
">\n\nNo, they'll have their \"experts\" testify that they're correct. Then you find out the \"expert\" talking about MJ legalization is a LEO and the \"expert\" talking about abortion is a religious leader.",
">\n\nThe people who did this belong on trail for crimes against humanity at the Hague.\nActual consequences? Fuckin' crickets as usual.",
">\n\nReminder that under Bush the US granted itself permission to invade The Hague If an American citizen should ever be tried there.",
">\n\nWe should send Bush to be tried there.",
">\n\nTrump and his henchmen should be charged for these crimes. Of all of Trump's crimes, I think the concentration camps for immigrants and separating immigrants from their children were among the worst. We have to punish them or this will happen again next time they have the presidency.",
">\n\nAmerica doesn't punish Republican crimes.\n\nSource: Jan 6th",
">\n\nThe list of sources is very long.",
">\n\nIt starts at least with the Watergate. GWB never answered to war crimes or to lying to start a war. And Trump pardon the only person charged in the Valery Plane affair.",
">\n\nDidn't Nixon interfere with the peace process in Vietnam, extending the war so his opponent wouldn't get a win right before the election?",
">\n\nYep.",
">\n\nStephen Miller should be in a 6 x 9",
">\n\nAre there any cells smaller than that for that pea brained asshat?",
">\n\nThere’s a box",
">\n\nIf it fits it sits",
">\n\nThis program of separating parents from their children without documentation is going to be remembered in the same way we talk about the Syphilis Study at Tuskegee. Except that was the 1930s.\nOne of these days some of those kids are going to take their pound of flesh out of the United States either legally or violently, and they'll have right on their side.",
">\n\nnah, the fascists will have rewritten history in the US by then. Our kids will never learn about any of it unless we move.",
">\n\nPresident Ron Desantis III will remove it from the national curriculum.",
">\n\nProbably in a governor position he would still have that power",
">\n\nNever forget this was a crime against humanity. Conservatives supported it. Even your so called “moderate conservative friends”\nIf it had been your kid they wouldn’t give a fuck.\nIn 20 years people will call it a stain on our nation. But the sociopaths who enabled it are here right now.",
">\n\nThe sociopaths who enabled it are in a very good position to seize absolute control of our country, too.",
">\n\nDon’t forget that it’s the trump supporters that empowered the sociopaths.",
">\n\nIt boggles my mind how there isn't a bigger deal made of this. They stole kids from their parents. Any time it pops into my head, I'm infuriated. In a just world, Trump and his administration would be harshly punished.",
">\n\nSeriously. It is crime against HUMANITY",
">\n\nDOJ should throw kidnapping charges onto the pile of Trump crimes.",
">\n\nKidnapped. That's called kidnapping.",
">\n\nAbduction, human trafficking, genocide.\nTake your pick.",
">\n\nThis needs to be made into a drama doc, like the recent Jeffrey Dahmer series. I guarantee it would make a compelling story, and if done right, it would reach even strong trump supporters just by virtue of it's entertainment value. \nThis whole debacle was one of the cruelest things the US has done in decades, and it was done with Glee by a mentally unstable maniac and his supporters. The sooner we see it through the lens of history and regret, the better",
">\n\nWe better hurry before the republicans ban all history.",
">\n\nThis is only happening because trump never had a plan to reunite the families.\nFor those in the back. He ripped apart families with NO INTENTION OF THEM EVER BEING REUNITED.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. In order to create a situation like this, they had to have the intent to prevent the reuniting of families.",
">\n\nIt pains me to think how great this nation could be if the government didnt have to spend time and resources fixing the things republican admins did",
">\n\nIt's such an insane cycle. Conservatives fuck shit up, Dems finally get back in and spend the entire time fixing shit, conservatives run on \"look, they didn't make anything better!\", get back in to fuck shit up. Rinse and repeat.",
">\n\nExcept Dems (if they actually focus on it) are usually only able to fix 70ish% of the budgetary and humanitarian issues that were cause by the previous administration. Then when they lose reelection we slip further backwards.",
">\n\nWhat do you mean if?",
">\n\nIf they focus on repairing damage instead of squabbling with each other (which happens a lot).",
">\n\nAs a Mexican immigrant I really appreciate this",
">\n\nI just wish we had received the same support nationwide like BLM did.",
">\n\nOutraged Republicans demand to know why they were not sold to traffickers as they planned.",
">\n\nThink of all that could have been accomplished in the same time with the same effort if we didn't need them to focus on this. Every Democratic administration is hobbled by needing to undo the evils of the Republicans before them. And it doesn't go the other way because it only takes a second to wreck something, but it takes time to do things right.",
">\n\nContrarily to what the aryicle stars, they were not crossing illegaly. They came as asylum seekers, which is legal. Many (all?) of them arrived at official points of entry. These are not people who were arrested crossing the river in the middle of the night (not that it would justify taking their kids in any way).",
">\n\nOf course the Republican subs are silent on this\nFuck trump",
">\n\ngiving them all citizenship and all of their families is the least we could do for what we've done to those kids",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nThey’ll still be traumatized for the rest of their lives. Drug addiction, depression, suicides will plague these children. If there were any justice, the architects of this policy should be charged with crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nTypical go to of Christian nationalists is to steal children.",
">\n\nI guess the conservatives are ok as long it isn't their child or children.",
">\n\nI want to remind everyone here that Trump's ICE not only separated countless children from their parents, they then \"LOST\" them. Trafficked. They trafficked them. But they called them \"lost\". Then, in an absolutely astounding act of evil and affirmation of cruelty, they released the numbers to the public: 1488 lost children.\nYes. That's right. 1488, the same number literal nazis hold sacred.\nThe depth of evil and abuse and violence the right has descended to should be SO MUCH more alarming to more people. In case you think the assertion that the children were trafficked is alarmist please remember when they caught ICE transporting children without paperwork in the dead of night or keeping children in hotels without due process then sending them back to mexico with no transition process so they were essentially homeless.",
">\n\nWow. That is incredibly evil.",
">\n\nThe GOP are the Nazis come again. Time is a flat circle and most of the circle is fascism",
">\n\nNearly 75 percent is better than I expected, and they're still working. One small cause for optimism.",
">\n\nI wouldn't call it a small cause. This is pretty massive, actually following through with fixing this disgusting miscarriage of justice. I remember reading about this stuff happening and thinking that it would have to be a priority for a new administration. Glad it's being handled.",
">\n\nI remember reading this and thinking ‘holy fucking shit’, and my view on USA has not been the same since.\nThe fact Trump still got 70+ million votes after mandating/ordering this policy is insane.",
">\n\nTrump voters tend to be low information. If they even heard about this, they heard someone on Fox/Newsmax/twitter defending it or saying it was fantastic while distorting the truth about it.",
">\n\nI’d like to think they were ignorant, but somehow it all adds up. I can’t let it go.",
">\n\nNot enough, but it’s a start.",
">\n\nCrimes against humanity.",
">\n\nJesus Christ Trump was a disaster, we're just now returning the kids to their parents though?!? The damage we caused will never go away.",
">\n\nOver 2000 were returned during the Trump administration so these are part of the harder to find parents.",
">\n\nSomething tells me this will not be on many news stations tonight.",
">\n\nFinally. This is why I voted in 2020",
">\n\nI will be enraged until the headline reads ALL!",
">\n\nUnfortunately, that might never happen given that the Trump administration managed to lose track of a bunch of them. I wish I was making that up.",
">\n\nHow about the DOJ criminally prosecute the architects and others who had a hand in this heinous crime?",
">\n\n\nAccording to figures released by the Department of Homeland Security, 3,881 children were separated from their families from 2017 to 2021. About 74% of those have been reunited with their families: 2,176 before the task force was created and 689 afterward.\nBut that still leaves nearly 1,000 children. Of those, 148 are in the reunification process. The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children.\n\nUgh, close but not close enough to fixing this mistake.",
">\n\nRemember when the Trump administration claimed that it was impossible to reunite the families?",
">\n\nWhy do we always have to clean up after Republicans? Getting tiresome.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that because the separation policy was specifically designed to deter certain kinds of people from seeking asylum, these kidnappings qualify as a crime against humanity under international law.",
">\n\nA whole bunch of them were trafficked to the upper Midwest to work the overnight shift on meat packing plant floors. It was only uncovered when one of their middle school teachers called CPS because these kids were coming in with severe chemical burns on their hands and arms. And, yes - after working the overnight shift cleaning a meat processing plant floor, these kids were going to school all day. The youngest was 12.",
">\n\nOh no. Just appalling",
">\n\nBecause it’s the right thing to do. Well done. Still going to be a long road toward healing for those poor kids.",
">\n\nI'm still stunned nobody has gone to jail for this and that the US public did not draw the line at this. It is sickening.",
">\n\nWe don’t get credit for fixing our own fuckup",
">\n\nIt is SHAMEFUL how these people were treated.",
">\n\nThat is wonderful news. Trump and his administration were so evil and cruel. I can't imagine how anyone could be so heartless.",
">\n\nHow many of these kids were molested by Trump supporters? Not zero.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to think if Trump was still POTUS, these (and likely many more) kids would still be lost.",
">\n\nNot enough is made over the evil that Trump and Stephen Miller committed during this fiasco. \nObjectively horrific, vile men.",
">\n\nNever forget there was one boy who died in his own vomit for hours before someone checked up on him. My blood still seethes thinking about it.\nHis name was Carlos Gregorio Hernandez Vasquez, he was 16 from Guatemala.",
">\n\nI'm very happy to read this. That said, the fact that this ever happened (and I don't care who it happens under) is disgusting and needs to be completely stopped from happening again.",
">\n\nThis should be much bigger news",
">\n\nHow many years were these kids without their parents in a government camp?",
">\n\nClose to four years.",
">\n\nOh yea I forgot he did this, the absolute sicko",
">\n\nThis is real oppressive fascist shit, my dear Americans. Except those who should hear this either won't read this or don't have a problem with it...",
">\n\nThis probably puts SStephen Miller in the deepest of funks.",
">\n\nGenuinely good news and a step towards righting an intentionally monstrous act.",
">\n\nhow many more are there? how many were raped? how many died?",
">\n\nIt's good to see the nation moving closer to its founding principles.",
">\n\nIf this is true, it’s the only news I heard today that I give a single fuck about. Wow. YES. Keep going. 100% reunification.",
">\n\nThere are still missing children.",
">\n\nTrAnS pEoPlE aRe GrOoMiNg OuR cHiLdReN. No, there not, and your outrage would be more effective if it targeted the POS you voted for.",
">\n\nTrump reign of terror was so barbaric.",
">\n\nThing is. .....Republicans are probably unhappy about this.",
">\n\nThis definitely put a smile on my face! :)",
">\n\nUS reunites nearly 700 kids taken from parents under ~~Trump~~ the republicans.",
">\n\nSomehow trump will take credit for this. He'll say something like how much better he made those parents appreciate their children and the children their parents. Ugh.",
">\n\nbold of you to assume he'll pay any attention at all to them.",
">\n\nHow I fucking wish \"Kids in cages\" never became the misleading rallying cry against Trump when kidnapped children was the more accurate description of what the administration was doing that needed to be stopped immediately.\nHow many times have you seen some galaxy brain talk about how \"Oh nobody says 'kids in cages' anymore now that it's ok Biden is doing it!\" Yeah it was a stupid and inaccurate criticism to begin with, because any kind of policy of detaining people caught trying to cross the border illegally will fit the \"kids in cages\" meme. \nThe entire reason people got mad at Trump beyond the border wall nonsense was because he specifically ordered a family separation policy that was designed to function as a cruel deterrent to immigration. The Obama administration was forced to adopt a family separation policy because courts ruled that minors could not be detained with adults when detained by ICE, but the Trump administration embraced this policy and added on kidnapping and forced separation across the country which resembled human trafficking more than any kind of immigration policy.\nAnd yeah, Biden is reuniting people while still maintaining a policy of not letting anyone cross the border anywhere at any time for any reason. We can talk about the ethics of detaining people caught trying to cross a national border illegally, and we should. But its an entirely separate discussion from whether one should steal their kids and ship them across the country and throw away the records of where they went.",
">\n\nAnother horrifying legacy of the US.",
">\n\nStephen Miller needs to be permanently attached to this heartless decision.",
">\n\nThe damage has been done. It's literally the least we can do is give them their children back.. I can't even believe that sentence needed to be said. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nFinally, someone thought of the children",
">\n\nYet another crime that orange gasbag will never be punished for…",
">\n\nThis chapter of Trump's presidency was truly mask off evil from the party that professes that they are the party of morals and family values. Before this people could argue that they could be afforded the benefit of the doubt. I kind of knew that Republicans were trolls and bad faith actors but then after this I knew that they really have no bottom line with how low they are willing to go. Truly evil what they did to those desperate families and kids when it would have been the easiest thing in the world to just not.",
">\n\nThis is not the same war crime Russia is doing in the Ukraine. It's a completely different war crime.",
">\n\nIt's sad and despicable that this is even necessary.",
">\n\nThis post has about 670 comments. Imagine if every single one of them was a family reunion. Heartbreaking cruelty from the last administration.",
">\n\nThe Trimp administration did a lot terrible things and had plenty of awful, harmful policies. But this is one of those times when it crossed the line into literal evil.",
">\n\nI figured this was happening in the background but damn it's heartbreaking that it's taking this long because of how thoroughly Trump fucked up any semblance of process for the DHS\nLike don't get me wrong, anyone who works for ICE is and always has been a disgusting pig, but they used to be disgusting pigs bound by similar levels of US bureaucracy as the rest of the government",
">\n\nThis was a very good thing to do and the media isn’t talking about it.",
">\n\nThis needs to be bigger news",
">\n\nWhat the hell AP, it was the US under Trump too. Maybe a better headline might have been \"Biden admin reunites nearly 700...\"",
">\n\nOur bad, we did teach the kid to walk and talk, she mostly knows to say “put your hands through the bars” but still.",
">\n\nThis is news I've been waiting 6 years for.",
">\n\nWas Eric one of them?",
">\n\nI will look for you, I will find you and I will reunite you",
">\n\nLike the motherfucking handmaids tale or some shit",
">\n\nIt's nice for the country to be taking a step back towards its ideals.",
">\n\nWhy the fuck is this not plastered all over the news? This was an international outrage for years and now it’s a tiny news story thrown in on a Friday? Whomever is in charge of the WH Press Office should be ashamed.",
">\n\nNot sure what the White House Press Office could do here if outlets simply don't bother pushing the story.",
">\n\nI want to know how many are still separated.\nEverything else is not good enough.",
">\n\nYou will need to do a slight bit of math when reading the article to get the exact number but it as about a thousand remaining to be united.",
">\n\nI feel for these kids (and their parents). Many of them have been sexually assaulted because no one was there to protect them.",
">\n\nGee, Trump reminds me of Hitler for some reason. Does anyone else see a similarity? One redeeming factor is that we all know how Hitler ended up.",
">\n\nIt is a great labor to undo great evils. \nGlad it's being done.",
">\n\nHow many in total were separated? 700 is great, but if there are still 1,000s more this should also be an equal amount of new coverage.",
">\n\nThe exact counts are in the article if you want them.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if the articles were meant to be read.",
">\n\nIt’s a good start",
">\n\nIs trump a Russian spy?\nA global traitor",
">\n\nWhen will the real criminals be put in jail?",
">\n\nvery nice to see this happen and hopefully never happens again.",
">\n\nI pray the remaining children are with US family members. This was an impeachable criminal act by Trump",
">\n\nThis was by far the most evil thing his administration did.",
">\n\nNow seperate Trump from his family.",
">\n\nI mean, damage done. If I was fleeing my home in terror from economic disaster, and the place I ran to stole my fucking kid from me, and I didn’t get them back for three years?…. I mean… that dude is a terrorist now. What is left in his life except to punish this country?",
">\n\nLock him up",
">\n\nSome good news",
">\n\nThis is not enough.",
">\n\nI was kidnapped and separated from one of my parents for a week when I was young. To be separated for such a long time… The shit is going to haunt those kids for the rest of their lives and they will likely hate those who put them through this. I know this firsthand just based how lost I felt in my experience.",
">\n\nSome good news.",
">\n\nOh, well that's good news.",
">\n\nBut I was told in 2016 that Democrats were the same as Republicans.",
">\n\nI know the mods have that thing about being courteous to others blah blah blah, but fuck trump...",
">\n\nYes, but there are still an estimated 1,000 more that they can’t even find yet. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nThe headline shouldn't exist but half the country literally voted for this to happen. It's insane. Ashamed to be an American.",
">\n\nAfter the last child is reunited with family, Melania's \"I don't really care do you\" jacket will be displayed in the Smithsonian.",
">\n\n*Biden administration reunites 700 kids taken from parents under trump",
">\n\nOnly 49,300 to go.",
">\n\nThe Trump administration was monstrous. If there is such a thing as Karma this country has a lot to pay for…",
">\n\nI hope they use this to finally lock up Trump and his goons. This is disgusting and a stain on the US.",
">\n\nThe right thing to do.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\n/r/Orphancrushingmachine",
">\n\nWhy are the Republicans such pieces of shit? The whole fucking Republican Party needs to be done away with permanently.",
">\n\nIts still happening. Reuniting kids is great and all but if the same policies that separated them still exist it doesn't mean anything",
">\n\nbelongs in /r/upliftingnews!",
">\n\nHonestly it baffles me why people see “horrendous injustice addressed after long delay” and say “/r/upliftingnews”. There’s nothing uplifting about this story, everyone should be enraged.",
">\n\nEveryone is enraged all the time about everything and then go to Reddit or Twitter to make comments which does nothing.",
">\n\nAt least enraged people acknowledge the problem. Toxic positivity does less than that.",
">\n\nGood. Shame on the previous terroristic administration for the separations in the first place.",
">\n\nBut my dad won’t be talking about this. \nOnly that Biden keeps on sending money to Ukraine and his social security is going to run out. \nIt’s kind of funny at this point.",
">\n\nRemind him that his social security will run out, but you won’t get any because we don’t fucking tax the rich like we did before the 80s.",
">\n\nGOP, the party of family values",
">\n\nPutin the dwarf and Donnie the orange-haired orangutan had a lot in common.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nAlternative headline: US returns some of the kids they stole and lost",
">\n\nPeace of garbage: Trump. Hope same happens to his children and grand children",
">\n\nFrom the thumbnail, i was confused and worried . I thought I was about to read Jeff Bezos stole kids to work in Amazon warehouses or something. >_< don't act like it's unreasonable given the last 7 years.",
">\n\nBiden administration making a task force to reunite families, after being in the administration that bolstered the same organization that separated the kids is a joke lol\nI beg for Reddit to look at the bigger picture then just “trump bad, blue good”",
">\n\nYou're incorrectly conflating two issues. \nDeportations have to happen if we are going to protect our borders. But we can be compassionate while deporting people, like by not over-crowding facilities, providing basic sanitary needs, and keeping families together as a unit throughout the process.\nThe Trump administration issued a \"zero tolerance\" family seperation policy. It meant that children were seperated from their families as a matter of policy, with no concern for proper record keeping to reunite the families once a verdict in their case had been reached. The administration also allowed its facilities to overcrowd, and there are many reports of inadequate sanitary supplies. \nTheir point was cruelty.\nThe policy was rescinded as soon as the Biden administration took office.",
">\n\nWe must protect our borders!!! 🔴 “booooooooo”\nWe must protect our borders!!! 🔵 “yeahhh!!!!”\nYou do know the majority of illegal immigration is from airplanes right? You do realize ICE in general illegally block’s asylum seekers yeah? We must protect the borders!!! \nZero tolerance, but only detaining “threats” (literally anyone a government body can deem a threat, just look at our jail system) is good! Bc framing it that was makes it better",
">\n\nIts like you're trying to weaponize missing the point"
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"The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children. In 30 years from now we will be seeing documentaries about children who suffered permanent psychological damage at the hands of Trumps administration. People will be shocked to learn that the U.S. government focible took these peoples children and intentionally separated them to be cruel.",
">\n\nThe people who supported it will pretend they never knew anything about it and act shocked and disgusted.",
">\n\nThey already are claiming this did not happen or Obama did it or some other nonsense. Let me clear: Trump instituted a policy to forcibly separate children (including infants) from their legal asylum-seekng parents at the border. He did this to be cruel and scare people from coming. His minions then forgot to keep records of who the kids were.",
">\n\nI'd only argue with \"forgot.\" They intentionally didn't keep records so as to make it as difficult as possible to reunite these families. The cruelty was the point. In fact, they outright declared that they were doing this to try to dissuade people from coming to America. \"Try to seek asylum in America and we'll separate you from your kids who you'll never see again!\"",
">\n\n\"The laws are the laws\" = dead giveaway for a fascist. The law is there to serve the people. If it's not serving them, it should be changed.",
">\n\nWhat really gives away the game is politicians supporting and pushing through laws that do not have majority public support - anti-marijuana and abortion come to mind. Also the use of propaganda to try to affect levels of support for certain things.",
">\n\nA piece of legislation is almost always guaranteed to fail if it polls extremely popular with Americans on all sides. It's really sad...",
">\n\nYep, like “80% of Americans support this” and they’re uh… “oh but some discredited propaganda bullshit”. Really gives away who they are truly working for.",
">\n\nNo, they'll have their \"experts\" testify that they're correct. Then you find out the \"expert\" talking about MJ legalization is a LEO and the \"expert\" talking about abortion is a religious leader.",
">\n\nThe people who did this belong on trail for crimes against humanity at the Hague.\nActual consequences? Fuckin' crickets as usual.",
">\n\nReminder that under Bush the US granted itself permission to invade The Hague If an American citizen should ever be tried there.",
">\n\nWe should send Bush to be tried there.",
">\n\nTrump and his henchmen should be charged for these crimes. Of all of Trump's crimes, I think the concentration camps for immigrants and separating immigrants from their children were among the worst. We have to punish them or this will happen again next time they have the presidency.",
">\n\nAmerica doesn't punish Republican crimes.\n\nSource: Jan 6th",
">\n\nThe list of sources is very long.",
">\n\nIt starts at least with the Watergate. GWB never answered to war crimes or to lying to start a war. And Trump pardon the only person charged in the Valery Plane affair.",
">\n\nDidn't Nixon interfere with the peace process in Vietnam, extending the war so his opponent wouldn't get a win right before the election?",
">\n\nYep.",
">\n\nStephen Miller should be in a 6 x 9",
">\n\nAre there any cells smaller than that for that pea brained asshat?",
">\n\nThere’s a box",
">\n\nIf it fits it sits",
">\n\nThis program of separating parents from their children without documentation is going to be remembered in the same way we talk about the Syphilis Study at Tuskegee. Except that was the 1930s.\nOne of these days some of those kids are going to take their pound of flesh out of the United States either legally or violently, and they'll have right on their side.",
">\n\nnah, the fascists will have rewritten history in the US by then. Our kids will never learn about any of it unless we move.",
">\n\nPresident Ron Desantis III will remove it from the national curriculum.",
">\n\nProbably in a governor position he would still have that power",
">\n\nNever forget this was a crime against humanity. Conservatives supported it. Even your so called “moderate conservative friends”\nIf it had been your kid they wouldn’t give a fuck.\nIn 20 years people will call it a stain on our nation. But the sociopaths who enabled it are here right now.",
">\n\nThe sociopaths who enabled it are in a very good position to seize absolute control of our country, too.",
">\n\nDon’t forget that it’s the trump supporters that empowered the sociopaths.",
">\n\nIt boggles my mind how there isn't a bigger deal made of this. They stole kids from their parents. Any time it pops into my head, I'm infuriated. In a just world, Trump and his administration would be harshly punished.",
">\n\nSeriously. It is crime against HUMANITY",
">\n\nDOJ should throw kidnapping charges onto the pile of Trump crimes.",
">\n\nKidnapped. That's called kidnapping.",
">\n\nAbduction, human trafficking, genocide.\nTake your pick.",
">\n\nThis needs to be made into a drama doc, like the recent Jeffrey Dahmer series. I guarantee it would make a compelling story, and if done right, it would reach even strong trump supporters just by virtue of it's entertainment value. \nThis whole debacle was one of the cruelest things the US has done in decades, and it was done with Glee by a mentally unstable maniac and his supporters. The sooner we see it through the lens of history and regret, the better",
">\n\nWe better hurry before the republicans ban all history.",
">\n\nThis is only happening because trump never had a plan to reunite the families.\nFor those in the back. He ripped apart families with NO INTENTION OF THEM EVER BEING REUNITED.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. In order to create a situation like this, they had to have the intent to prevent the reuniting of families.",
">\n\nIt pains me to think how great this nation could be if the government didnt have to spend time and resources fixing the things republican admins did",
">\n\nIt's such an insane cycle. Conservatives fuck shit up, Dems finally get back in and spend the entire time fixing shit, conservatives run on \"look, they didn't make anything better!\", get back in to fuck shit up. Rinse and repeat.",
">\n\nExcept Dems (if they actually focus on it) are usually only able to fix 70ish% of the budgetary and humanitarian issues that were cause by the previous administration. Then when they lose reelection we slip further backwards.",
">\n\nWhat do you mean if?",
">\n\nIf they focus on repairing damage instead of squabbling with each other (which happens a lot).",
">\n\nAs a Mexican immigrant I really appreciate this",
">\n\nI just wish we had received the same support nationwide like BLM did.",
">\n\nOutraged Republicans demand to know why they were not sold to traffickers as they planned.",
">\n\nThink of all that could have been accomplished in the same time with the same effort if we didn't need them to focus on this. Every Democratic administration is hobbled by needing to undo the evils of the Republicans before them. And it doesn't go the other way because it only takes a second to wreck something, but it takes time to do things right.",
">\n\nContrarily to what the aryicle stars, they were not crossing illegaly. They came as asylum seekers, which is legal. Many (all?) of them arrived at official points of entry. These are not people who were arrested crossing the river in the middle of the night (not that it would justify taking their kids in any way).",
">\n\nOf course the Republican subs are silent on this\nFuck trump",
">\n\ngiving them all citizenship and all of their families is the least we could do for what we've done to those kids",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nThey’ll still be traumatized for the rest of their lives. Drug addiction, depression, suicides will plague these children. If there were any justice, the architects of this policy should be charged with crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nTypical go to of Christian nationalists is to steal children.",
">\n\nI guess the conservatives are ok as long it isn't their child or children.",
">\n\nI want to remind everyone here that Trump's ICE not only separated countless children from their parents, they then \"LOST\" them. Trafficked. They trafficked them. But they called them \"lost\". Then, in an absolutely astounding act of evil and affirmation of cruelty, they released the numbers to the public: 1488 lost children.\nYes. That's right. 1488, the same number literal nazis hold sacred.\nThe depth of evil and abuse and violence the right has descended to should be SO MUCH more alarming to more people. In case you think the assertion that the children were trafficked is alarmist please remember when they caught ICE transporting children without paperwork in the dead of night or keeping children in hotels without due process then sending them back to mexico with no transition process so they were essentially homeless.",
">\n\nWow. That is incredibly evil.",
">\n\nThe GOP are the Nazis come again. Time is a flat circle and most of the circle is fascism",
">\n\nNearly 75 percent is better than I expected, and they're still working. One small cause for optimism.",
">\n\nI wouldn't call it a small cause. This is pretty massive, actually following through with fixing this disgusting miscarriage of justice. I remember reading about this stuff happening and thinking that it would have to be a priority for a new administration. Glad it's being handled.",
">\n\nI remember reading this and thinking ‘holy fucking shit’, and my view on USA has not been the same since.\nThe fact Trump still got 70+ million votes after mandating/ordering this policy is insane.",
">\n\nTrump voters tend to be low information. If they even heard about this, they heard someone on Fox/Newsmax/twitter defending it or saying it was fantastic while distorting the truth about it.",
">\n\nI’d like to think they were ignorant, but somehow it all adds up. I can’t let it go.",
">\n\nNot enough, but it’s a start.",
">\n\nCrimes against humanity.",
">\n\nJesus Christ Trump was a disaster, we're just now returning the kids to their parents though?!? The damage we caused will never go away.",
">\n\nOver 2000 were returned during the Trump administration so these are part of the harder to find parents.",
">\n\nSomething tells me this will not be on many news stations tonight.",
">\n\nFinally. This is why I voted in 2020",
">\n\nI will be enraged until the headline reads ALL!",
">\n\nUnfortunately, that might never happen given that the Trump administration managed to lose track of a bunch of them. I wish I was making that up.",
">\n\nHow about the DOJ criminally prosecute the architects and others who had a hand in this heinous crime?",
">\n\n\nAccording to figures released by the Department of Homeland Security, 3,881 children were separated from their families from 2017 to 2021. About 74% of those have been reunited with their families: 2,176 before the task force was created and 689 afterward.\nBut that still leaves nearly 1,000 children. Of those, 148 are in the reunification process. The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children.\n\nUgh, close but not close enough to fixing this mistake.",
">\n\nRemember when the Trump administration claimed that it was impossible to reunite the families?",
">\n\nWhy do we always have to clean up after Republicans? Getting tiresome.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that because the separation policy was specifically designed to deter certain kinds of people from seeking asylum, these kidnappings qualify as a crime against humanity under international law.",
">\n\nA whole bunch of them were trafficked to the upper Midwest to work the overnight shift on meat packing plant floors. It was only uncovered when one of their middle school teachers called CPS because these kids were coming in with severe chemical burns on their hands and arms. And, yes - after working the overnight shift cleaning a meat processing plant floor, these kids were going to school all day. The youngest was 12.",
">\n\nOh no. Just appalling",
">\n\nBecause it’s the right thing to do. Well done. Still going to be a long road toward healing for those poor kids.",
">\n\nI'm still stunned nobody has gone to jail for this and that the US public did not draw the line at this. It is sickening.",
">\n\nWe don’t get credit for fixing our own fuckup",
">\n\nIt is SHAMEFUL how these people were treated.",
">\n\nThat is wonderful news. Trump and his administration were so evil and cruel. I can't imagine how anyone could be so heartless.",
">\n\nHow many of these kids were molested by Trump supporters? Not zero.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to think if Trump was still POTUS, these (and likely many more) kids would still be lost.",
">\n\nNot enough is made over the evil that Trump and Stephen Miller committed during this fiasco. \nObjectively horrific, vile men.",
">\n\nNever forget there was one boy who died in his own vomit for hours before someone checked up on him. My blood still seethes thinking about it.\nHis name was Carlos Gregorio Hernandez Vasquez, he was 16 from Guatemala.",
">\n\nI'm very happy to read this. That said, the fact that this ever happened (and I don't care who it happens under) is disgusting and needs to be completely stopped from happening again.",
">\n\nThis should be much bigger news",
">\n\nHow many years were these kids without their parents in a government camp?",
">\n\nClose to four years.",
">\n\nOh yea I forgot he did this, the absolute sicko",
">\n\nThis is real oppressive fascist shit, my dear Americans. Except those who should hear this either won't read this or don't have a problem with it...",
">\n\nThis probably puts SStephen Miller in the deepest of funks.",
">\n\nGenuinely good news and a step towards righting an intentionally monstrous act.",
">\n\nhow many more are there? how many were raped? how many died?",
">\n\nIt's good to see the nation moving closer to its founding principles.",
">\n\nIf this is true, it’s the only news I heard today that I give a single fuck about. Wow. YES. Keep going. 100% reunification.",
">\n\nThere are still missing children.",
">\n\nTrAnS pEoPlE aRe GrOoMiNg OuR cHiLdReN. No, there not, and your outrage would be more effective if it targeted the POS you voted for.",
">\n\nTrump reign of terror was so barbaric.",
">\n\nThing is. .....Republicans are probably unhappy about this.",
">\n\nThis definitely put a smile on my face! :)",
">\n\nUS reunites nearly 700 kids taken from parents under ~~Trump~~ the republicans.",
">\n\nSomehow trump will take credit for this. He'll say something like how much better he made those parents appreciate their children and the children their parents. Ugh.",
">\n\nbold of you to assume he'll pay any attention at all to them.",
">\n\nHow I fucking wish \"Kids in cages\" never became the misleading rallying cry against Trump when kidnapped children was the more accurate description of what the administration was doing that needed to be stopped immediately.\nHow many times have you seen some galaxy brain talk about how \"Oh nobody says 'kids in cages' anymore now that it's ok Biden is doing it!\" Yeah it was a stupid and inaccurate criticism to begin with, because any kind of policy of detaining people caught trying to cross the border illegally will fit the \"kids in cages\" meme. \nThe entire reason people got mad at Trump beyond the border wall nonsense was because he specifically ordered a family separation policy that was designed to function as a cruel deterrent to immigration. The Obama administration was forced to adopt a family separation policy because courts ruled that minors could not be detained with adults when detained by ICE, but the Trump administration embraced this policy and added on kidnapping and forced separation across the country which resembled human trafficking more than any kind of immigration policy.\nAnd yeah, Biden is reuniting people while still maintaining a policy of not letting anyone cross the border anywhere at any time for any reason. We can talk about the ethics of detaining people caught trying to cross a national border illegally, and we should. But its an entirely separate discussion from whether one should steal their kids and ship them across the country and throw away the records of where they went.",
">\n\nAnother horrifying legacy of the US.",
">\n\nStephen Miller needs to be permanently attached to this heartless decision.",
">\n\nThe damage has been done. It's literally the least we can do is give them their children back.. I can't even believe that sentence needed to be said. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nFinally, someone thought of the children",
">\n\nYet another crime that orange gasbag will never be punished for…",
">\n\nThis chapter of Trump's presidency was truly mask off evil from the party that professes that they are the party of morals and family values. Before this people could argue that they could be afforded the benefit of the doubt. I kind of knew that Republicans were trolls and bad faith actors but then after this I knew that they really have no bottom line with how low they are willing to go. Truly evil what they did to those desperate families and kids when it would have been the easiest thing in the world to just not.",
">\n\nThis is not the same war crime Russia is doing in the Ukraine. It's a completely different war crime.",
">\n\nIt's sad and despicable that this is even necessary.",
">\n\nThis post has about 670 comments. Imagine if every single one of them was a family reunion. Heartbreaking cruelty from the last administration.",
">\n\nThe Trimp administration did a lot terrible things and had plenty of awful, harmful policies. But this is one of those times when it crossed the line into literal evil.",
">\n\nI figured this was happening in the background but damn it's heartbreaking that it's taking this long because of how thoroughly Trump fucked up any semblance of process for the DHS\nLike don't get me wrong, anyone who works for ICE is and always has been a disgusting pig, but they used to be disgusting pigs bound by similar levels of US bureaucracy as the rest of the government",
">\n\nThis was a very good thing to do and the media isn’t talking about it.",
">\n\nThis needs to be bigger news",
">\n\nWhat the hell AP, it was the US under Trump too. Maybe a better headline might have been \"Biden admin reunites nearly 700...\"",
">\n\nOur bad, we did teach the kid to walk and talk, she mostly knows to say “put your hands through the bars” but still.",
">\n\nThis is news I've been waiting 6 years for.",
">\n\nWas Eric one of them?",
">\n\nI will look for you, I will find you and I will reunite you",
">\n\nLike the motherfucking handmaids tale or some shit",
">\n\nIt's nice for the country to be taking a step back towards its ideals.",
">\n\nWhy the fuck is this not plastered all over the news? This was an international outrage for years and now it’s a tiny news story thrown in on a Friday? Whomever is in charge of the WH Press Office should be ashamed.",
">\n\nNot sure what the White House Press Office could do here if outlets simply don't bother pushing the story.",
">\n\nI want to know how many are still separated.\nEverything else is not good enough.",
">\n\nYou will need to do a slight bit of math when reading the article to get the exact number but it as about a thousand remaining to be united.",
">\n\nI feel for these kids (and their parents). Many of them have been sexually assaulted because no one was there to protect them.",
">\n\nGee, Trump reminds me of Hitler for some reason. Does anyone else see a similarity? One redeeming factor is that we all know how Hitler ended up.",
">\n\nIt is a great labor to undo great evils. \nGlad it's being done.",
">\n\nHow many in total were separated? 700 is great, but if there are still 1,000s more this should also be an equal amount of new coverage.",
">\n\nThe exact counts are in the article if you want them.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if the articles were meant to be read.",
">\n\nIt’s a good start",
">\n\nIs trump a Russian spy?\nA global traitor",
">\n\nWhen will the real criminals be put in jail?",
">\n\nvery nice to see this happen and hopefully never happens again.",
">\n\nI pray the remaining children are with US family members. This was an impeachable criminal act by Trump",
">\n\nThis was by far the most evil thing his administration did.",
">\n\nNow seperate Trump from his family.",
">\n\nI mean, damage done. If I was fleeing my home in terror from economic disaster, and the place I ran to stole my fucking kid from me, and I didn’t get them back for three years?…. I mean… that dude is a terrorist now. What is left in his life except to punish this country?",
">\n\nLock him up",
">\n\nSome good news",
">\n\nThis is not enough.",
">\n\nI was kidnapped and separated from one of my parents for a week when I was young. To be separated for such a long time… The shit is going to haunt those kids for the rest of their lives and they will likely hate those who put them through this. I know this firsthand just based how lost I felt in my experience.",
">\n\nSome good news.",
">\n\nOh, well that's good news.",
">\n\nBut I was told in 2016 that Democrats were the same as Republicans.",
">\n\nI know the mods have that thing about being courteous to others blah blah blah, but fuck trump...",
">\n\nYes, but there are still an estimated 1,000 more that they can’t even find yet. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nThe headline shouldn't exist but half the country literally voted for this to happen. It's insane. Ashamed to be an American.",
">\n\nAfter the last child is reunited with family, Melania's \"I don't really care do you\" jacket will be displayed in the Smithsonian.",
">\n\n*Biden administration reunites 700 kids taken from parents under trump",
">\n\nOnly 49,300 to go.",
">\n\nThe Trump administration was monstrous. If there is such a thing as Karma this country has a lot to pay for…",
">\n\nI hope they use this to finally lock up Trump and his goons. This is disgusting and a stain on the US.",
">\n\nThe right thing to do.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\n/r/Orphancrushingmachine",
">\n\nWhy are the Republicans such pieces of shit? The whole fucking Republican Party needs to be done away with permanently.",
">\n\nIts still happening. Reuniting kids is great and all but if the same policies that separated them still exist it doesn't mean anything",
">\n\nbelongs in /r/upliftingnews!",
">\n\nHonestly it baffles me why people see “horrendous injustice addressed after long delay” and say “/r/upliftingnews”. There’s nothing uplifting about this story, everyone should be enraged.",
">\n\nEveryone is enraged all the time about everything and then go to Reddit or Twitter to make comments which does nothing.",
">\n\nAt least enraged people acknowledge the problem. Toxic positivity does less than that.",
">\n\nGood. Shame on the previous terroristic administration for the separations in the first place.",
">\n\nBut my dad won’t be talking about this. \nOnly that Biden keeps on sending money to Ukraine and his social security is going to run out. \nIt’s kind of funny at this point.",
">\n\nRemind him that his social security will run out, but you won’t get any because we don’t fucking tax the rich like we did before the 80s.",
">\n\nGOP, the party of family values",
">\n\nPutin the dwarf and Donnie the orange-haired orangutan had a lot in common.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nAlternative headline: US returns some of the kids they stole and lost",
">\n\nPeace of garbage: Trump. Hope same happens to his children and grand children",
">\n\nFrom the thumbnail, i was confused and worried . I thought I was about to read Jeff Bezos stole kids to work in Amazon warehouses or something. >_< don't act like it's unreasonable given the last 7 years.",
">\n\nBiden administration making a task force to reunite families, after being in the administration that bolstered the same organization that separated the kids is a joke lol\nI beg for Reddit to look at the bigger picture then just “trump bad, blue good”",
">\n\nYou're incorrectly conflating two issues. \nDeportations have to happen if we are going to protect our borders. But we can be compassionate while deporting people, like by not over-crowding facilities, providing basic sanitary needs, and keeping families together as a unit throughout the process.\nThe Trump administration issued a \"zero tolerance\" family seperation policy. It meant that children were seperated from their families as a matter of policy, with no concern for proper record keeping to reunite the families once a verdict in their case had been reached. The administration also allowed its facilities to overcrowd, and there are many reports of inadequate sanitary supplies. \nTheir point was cruelty.\nThe policy was rescinded as soon as the Biden administration took office.",
">\n\nWe must protect our borders!!! 🔴 “booooooooo”\nWe must protect our borders!!! 🔵 “yeahhh!!!!”\nYou do know the majority of illegal immigration is from airplanes right? You do realize ICE in general illegally block’s asylum seekers yeah? We must protect the borders!!! \nZero tolerance, but only detaining “threats” (literally anyone a government body can deem a threat, just look at our jail system) is good! Bc framing it that was makes it better",
">\n\nIts like you're trying to weaponize missing the point",
">\n\nHopefully they were reunited back in their country of origin."
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"The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children. In 30 years from now we will be seeing documentaries about children who suffered permanent psychological damage at the hands of Trumps administration. People will be shocked to learn that the U.S. government focible took these peoples children and intentionally separated them to be cruel.",
">\n\nThe people who supported it will pretend they never knew anything about it and act shocked and disgusted.",
">\n\nThey already are claiming this did not happen or Obama did it or some other nonsense. Let me clear: Trump instituted a policy to forcibly separate children (including infants) from their legal asylum-seekng parents at the border. He did this to be cruel and scare people from coming. His minions then forgot to keep records of who the kids were.",
">\n\nI'd only argue with \"forgot.\" They intentionally didn't keep records so as to make it as difficult as possible to reunite these families. The cruelty was the point. In fact, they outright declared that they were doing this to try to dissuade people from coming to America. \"Try to seek asylum in America and we'll separate you from your kids who you'll never see again!\"",
">\n\n\"The laws are the laws\" = dead giveaway for a fascist. The law is there to serve the people. If it's not serving them, it should be changed.",
">\n\nWhat really gives away the game is politicians supporting and pushing through laws that do not have majority public support - anti-marijuana and abortion come to mind. Also the use of propaganda to try to affect levels of support for certain things.",
">\n\nA piece of legislation is almost always guaranteed to fail if it polls extremely popular with Americans on all sides. It's really sad...",
">\n\nYep, like “80% of Americans support this” and they’re uh… “oh but some discredited propaganda bullshit”. Really gives away who they are truly working for.",
">\n\nNo, they'll have their \"experts\" testify that they're correct. Then you find out the \"expert\" talking about MJ legalization is a LEO and the \"expert\" talking about abortion is a religious leader.",
">\n\nThe people who did this belong on trail for crimes against humanity at the Hague.\nActual consequences? Fuckin' crickets as usual.",
">\n\nReminder that under Bush the US granted itself permission to invade The Hague If an American citizen should ever be tried there.",
">\n\nWe should send Bush to be tried there.",
">\n\nTrump and his henchmen should be charged for these crimes. Of all of Trump's crimes, I think the concentration camps for immigrants and separating immigrants from their children were among the worst. We have to punish them or this will happen again next time they have the presidency.",
">\n\nAmerica doesn't punish Republican crimes.\n\nSource: Jan 6th",
">\n\nThe list of sources is very long.",
">\n\nIt starts at least with the Watergate. GWB never answered to war crimes or to lying to start a war. And Trump pardon the only person charged in the Valery Plane affair.",
">\n\nDidn't Nixon interfere with the peace process in Vietnam, extending the war so his opponent wouldn't get a win right before the election?",
">\n\nYep.",
">\n\nStephen Miller should be in a 6 x 9",
">\n\nAre there any cells smaller than that for that pea brained asshat?",
">\n\nThere’s a box",
">\n\nIf it fits it sits",
">\n\nThis program of separating parents from their children without documentation is going to be remembered in the same way we talk about the Syphilis Study at Tuskegee. Except that was the 1930s.\nOne of these days some of those kids are going to take their pound of flesh out of the United States either legally or violently, and they'll have right on their side.",
">\n\nnah, the fascists will have rewritten history in the US by then. Our kids will never learn about any of it unless we move.",
">\n\nPresident Ron Desantis III will remove it from the national curriculum.",
">\n\nProbably in a governor position he would still have that power",
">\n\nNever forget this was a crime against humanity. Conservatives supported it. Even your so called “moderate conservative friends”\nIf it had been your kid they wouldn’t give a fuck.\nIn 20 years people will call it a stain on our nation. But the sociopaths who enabled it are here right now.",
">\n\nThe sociopaths who enabled it are in a very good position to seize absolute control of our country, too.",
">\n\nDon’t forget that it’s the trump supporters that empowered the sociopaths.",
">\n\nIt boggles my mind how there isn't a bigger deal made of this. They stole kids from their parents. Any time it pops into my head, I'm infuriated. In a just world, Trump and his administration would be harshly punished.",
">\n\nSeriously. It is crime against HUMANITY",
">\n\nDOJ should throw kidnapping charges onto the pile of Trump crimes.",
">\n\nKidnapped. That's called kidnapping.",
">\n\nAbduction, human trafficking, genocide.\nTake your pick.",
">\n\nThis needs to be made into a drama doc, like the recent Jeffrey Dahmer series. I guarantee it would make a compelling story, and if done right, it would reach even strong trump supporters just by virtue of it's entertainment value. \nThis whole debacle was one of the cruelest things the US has done in decades, and it was done with Glee by a mentally unstable maniac and his supporters. The sooner we see it through the lens of history and regret, the better",
">\n\nWe better hurry before the republicans ban all history.",
">\n\nThis is only happening because trump never had a plan to reunite the families.\nFor those in the back. He ripped apart families with NO INTENTION OF THEM EVER BEING REUNITED.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. In order to create a situation like this, they had to have the intent to prevent the reuniting of families.",
">\n\nIt pains me to think how great this nation could be if the government didnt have to spend time and resources fixing the things republican admins did",
">\n\nIt's such an insane cycle. Conservatives fuck shit up, Dems finally get back in and spend the entire time fixing shit, conservatives run on \"look, they didn't make anything better!\", get back in to fuck shit up. Rinse and repeat.",
">\n\nExcept Dems (if they actually focus on it) are usually only able to fix 70ish% of the budgetary and humanitarian issues that were cause by the previous administration. Then when they lose reelection we slip further backwards.",
">\n\nWhat do you mean if?",
">\n\nIf they focus on repairing damage instead of squabbling with each other (which happens a lot).",
">\n\nAs a Mexican immigrant I really appreciate this",
">\n\nI just wish we had received the same support nationwide like BLM did.",
">\n\nOutraged Republicans demand to know why they were not sold to traffickers as they planned.",
">\n\nThink of all that could have been accomplished in the same time with the same effort if we didn't need them to focus on this. Every Democratic administration is hobbled by needing to undo the evils of the Republicans before them. And it doesn't go the other way because it only takes a second to wreck something, but it takes time to do things right.",
">\n\nContrarily to what the aryicle stars, they were not crossing illegaly. They came as asylum seekers, which is legal. Many (all?) of them arrived at official points of entry. These are not people who were arrested crossing the river in the middle of the night (not that it would justify taking their kids in any way).",
">\n\nOf course the Republican subs are silent on this\nFuck trump",
">\n\ngiving them all citizenship and all of their families is the least we could do for what we've done to those kids",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nThey’ll still be traumatized for the rest of their lives. Drug addiction, depression, suicides will plague these children. If there were any justice, the architects of this policy should be charged with crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nTypical go to of Christian nationalists is to steal children.",
">\n\nI guess the conservatives are ok as long it isn't their child or children.",
">\n\nI want to remind everyone here that Trump's ICE not only separated countless children from their parents, they then \"LOST\" them. Trafficked. They trafficked them. But they called them \"lost\". Then, in an absolutely astounding act of evil and affirmation of cruelty, they released the numbers to the public: 1488 lost children.\nYes. That's right. 1488, the same number literal nazis hold sacred.\nThe depth of evil and abuse and violence the right has descended to should be SO MUCH more alarming to more people. In case you think the assertion that the children were trafficked is alarmist please remember when they caught ICE transporting children without paperwork in the dead of night or keeping children in hotels without due process then sending them back to mexico with no transition process so they were essentially homeless.",
">\n\nWow. That is incredibly evil.",
">\n\nThe GOP are the Nazis come again. Time is a flat circle and most of the circle is fascism",
">\n\nNearly 75 percent is better than I expected, and they're still working. One small cause for optimism.",
">\n\nI wouldn't call it a small cause. This is pretty massive, actually following through with fixing this disgusting miscarriage of justice. I remember reading about this stuff happening and thinking that it would have to be a priority for a new administration. Glad it's being handled.",
">\n\nI remember reading this and thinking ‘holy fucking shit’, and my view on USA has not been the same since.\nThe fact Trump still got 70+ million votes after mandating/ordering this policy is insane.",
">\n\nTrump voters tend to be low information. If they even heard about this, they heard someone on Fox/Newsmax/twitter defending it or saying it was fantastic while distorting the truth about it.",
">\n\nI’d like to think they were ignorant, but somehow it all adds up. I can’t let it go.",
">\n\nNot enough, but it’s a start.",
">\n\nCrimes against humanity.",
">\n\nJesus Christ Trump was a disaster, we're just now returning the kids to their parents though?!? The damage we caused will never go away.",
">\n\nOver 2000 were returned during the Trump administration so these are part of the harder to find parents.",
">\n\nSomething tells me this will not be on many news stations tonight.",
">\n\nFinally. This is why I voted in 2020",
">\n\nI will be enraged until the headline reads ALL!",
">\n\nUnfortunately, that might never happen given that the Trump administration managed to lose track of a bunch of them. I wish I was making that up.",
">\n\nHow about the DOJ criminally prosecute the architects and others who had a hand in this heinous crime?",
">\n\n\nAccording to figures released by the Department of Homeland Security, 3,881 children were separated from their families from 2017 to 2021. About 74% of those have been reunited with their families: 2,176 before the task force was created and 689 afterward.\nBut that still leaves nearly 1,000 children. Of those, 148 are in the reunification process. The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children.\n\nUgh, close but not close enough to fixing this mistake.",
">\n\nRemember when the Trump administration claimed that it was impossible to reunite the families?",
">\n\nWhy do we always have to clean up after Republicans? Getting tiresome.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that because the separation policy was specifically designed to deter certain kinds of people from seeking asylum, these kidnappings qualify as a crime against humanity under international law.",
">\n\nA whole bunch of them were trafficked to the upper Midwest to work the overnight shift on meat packing plant floors. It was only uncovered when one of their middle school teachers called CPS because these kids were coming in with severe chemical burns on their hands and arms. And, yes - after working the overnight shift cleaning a meat processing plant floor, these kids were going to school all day. The youngest was 12.",
">\n\nOh no. Just appalling",
">\n\nBecause it’s the right thing to do. Well done. Still going to be a long road toward healing for those poor kids.",
">\n\nI'm still stunned nobody has gone to jail for this and that the US public did not draw the line at this. It is sickening.",
">\n\nWe don’t get credit for fixing our own fuckup",
">\n\nIt is SHAMEFUL how these people were treated.",
">\n\nThat is wonderful news. Trump and his administration were so evil and cruel. I can't imagine how anyone could be so heartless.",
">\n\nHow many of these kids were molested by Trump supporters? Not zero.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to think if Trump was still POTUS, these (and likely many more) kids would still be lost.",
">\n\nNot enough is made over the evil that Trump and Stephen Miller committed during this fiasco. \nObjectively horrific, vile men.",
">\n\nNever forget there was one boy who died in his own vomit for hours before someone checked up on him. My blood still seethes thinking about it.\nHis name was Carlos Gregorio Hernandez Vasquez, he was 16 from Guatemala.",
">\n\nI'm very happy to read this. That said, the fact that this ever happened (and I don't care who it happens under) is disgusting and needs to be completely stopped from happening again.",
">\n\nThis should be much bigger news",
">\n\nHow many years were these kids without their parents in a government camp?",
">\n\nClose to four years.",
">\n\nOh yea I forgot he did this, the absolute sicko",
">\n\nThis is real oppressive fascist shit, my dear Americans. Except those who should hear this either won't read this or don't have a problem with it...",
">\n\nThis probably puts SStephen Miller in the deepest of funks.",
">\n\nGenuinely good news and a step towards righting an intentionally monstrous act.",
">\n\nhow many more are there? how many were raped? how many died?",
">\n\nIt's good to see the nation moving closer to its founding principles.",
">\n\nIf this is true, it’s the only news I heard today that I give a single fuck about. Wow. YES. Keep going. 100% reunification.",
">\n\nThere are still missing children.",
">\n\nTrAnS pEoPlE aRe GrOoMiNg OuR cHiLdReN. No, there not, and your outrage would be more effective if it targeted the POS you voted for.",
">\n\nTrump reign of terror was so barbaric.",
">\n\nThing is. .....Republicans are probably unhappy about this.",
">\n\nThis definitely put a smile on my face! :)",
">\n\nUS reunites nearly 700 kids taken from parents under ~~Trump~~ the republicans.",
">\n\nSomehow trump will take credit for this. He'll say something like how much better he made those parents appreciate their children and the children their parents. Ugh.",
">\n\nbold of you to assume he'll pay any attention at all to them.",
">\n\nHow I fucking wish \"Kids in cages\" never became the misleading rallying cry against Trump when kidnapped children was the more accurate description of what the administration was doing that needed to be stopped immediately.\nHow many times have you seen some galaxy brain talk about how \"Oh nobody says 'kids in cages' anymore now that it's ok Biden is doing it!\" Yeah it was a stupid and inaccurate criticism to begin with, because any kind of policy of detaining people caught trying to cross the border illegally will fit the \"kids in cages\" meme. \nThe entire reason people got mad at Trump beyond the border wall nonsense was because he specifically ordered a family separation policy that was designed to function as a cruel deterrent to immigration. The Obama administration was forced to adopt a family separation policy because courts ruled that minors could not be detained with adults when detained by ICE, but the Trump administration embraced this policy and added on kidnapping and forced separation across the country which resembled human trafficking more than any kind of immigration policy.\nAnd yeah, Biden is reuniting people while still maintaining a policy of not letting anyone cross the border anywhere at any time for any reason. We can talk about the ethics of detaining people caught trying to cross a national border illegally, and we should. But its an entirely separate discussion from whether one should steal their kids and ship them across the country and throw away the records of where they went.",
">\n\nAnother horrifying legacy of the US.",
">\n\nStephen Miller needs to be permanently attached to this heartless decision.",
">\n\nThe damage has been done. It's literally the least we can do is give them their children back.. I can't even believe that sentence needed to be said. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nFinally, someone thought of the children",
">\n\nYet another crime that orange gasbag will never be punished for…",
">\n\nThis chapter of Trump's presidency was truly mask off evil from the party that professes that they are the party of morals and family values. Before this people could argue that they could be afforded the benefit of the doubt. I kind of knew that Republicans were trolls and bad faith actors but then after this I knew that they really have no bottom line with how low they are willing to go. Truly evil what they did to those desperate families and kids when it would have been the easiest thing in the world to just not.",
">\n\nThis is not the same war crime Russia is doing in the Ukraine. It's a completely different war crime.",
">\n\nIt's sad and despicable that this is even necessary.",
">\n\nThis post has about 670 comments. Imagine if every single one of them was a family reunion. Heartbreaking cruelty from the last administration.",
">\n\nThe Trimp administration did a lot terrible things and had plenty of awful, harmful policies. But this is one of those times when it crossed the line into literal evil.",
">\n\nI figured this was happening in the background but damn it's heartbreaking that it's taking this long because of how thoroughly Trump fucked up any semblance of process for the DHS\nLike don't get me wrong, anyone who works for ICE is and always has been a disgusting pig, but they used to be disgusting pigs bound by similar levels of US bureaucracy as the rest of the government",
">\n\nThis was a very good thing to do and the media isn’t talking about it.",
">\n\nThis needs to be bigger news",
">\n\nWhat the hell AP, it was the US under Trump too. Maybe a better headline might have been \"Biden admin reunites nearly 700...\"",
">\n\nOur bad, we did teach the kid to walk and talk, she mostly knows to say “put your hands through the bars” but still.",
">\n\nThis is news I've been waiting 6 years for.",
">\n\nWas Eric one of them?",
">\n\nI will look for you, I will find you and I will reunite you",
">\n\nLike the motherfucking handmaids tale or some shit",
">\n\nIt's nice for the country to be taking a step back towards its ideals.",
">\n\nWhy the fuck is this not plastered all over the news? This was an international outrage for years and now it’s a tiny news story thrown in on a Friday? Whomever is in charge of the WH Press Office should be ashamed.",
">\n\nNot sure what the White House Press Office could do here if outlets simply don't bother pushing the story.",
">\n\nI want to know how many are still separated.\nEverything else is not good enough.",
">\n\nYou will need to do a slight bit of math when reading the article to get the exact number but it as about a thousand remaining to be united.",
">\n\nI feel for these kids (and their parents). Many of them have been sexually assaulted because no one was there to protect them.",
">\n\nGee, Trump reminds me of Hitler for some reason. Does anyone else see a similarity? One redeeming factor is that we all know how Hitler ended up.",
">\n\nIt is a great labor to undo great evils. \nGlad it's being done.",
">\n\nHow many in total were separated? 700 is great, but if there are still 1,000s more this should also be an equal amount of new coverage.",
">\n\nThe exact counts are in the article if you want them.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if the articles were meant to be read.",
">\n\nIt’s a good start",
">\n\nIs trump a Russian spy?\nA global traitor",
">\n\nWhen will the real criminals be put in jail?",
">\n\nvery nice to see this happen and hopefully never happens again.",
">\n\nI pray the remaining children are with US family members. This was an impeachable criminal act by Trump",
">\n\nThis was by far the most evil thing his administration did.",
">\n\nNow seperate Trump from his family.",
">\n\nI mean, damage done. If I was fleeing my home in terror from economic disaster, and the place I ran to stole my fucking kid from me, and I didn’t get them back for three years?…. I mean… that dude is a terrorist now. What is left in his life except to punish this country?",
">\n\nLock him up",
">\n\nSome good news",
">\n\nThis is not enough.",
">\n\nI was kidnapped and separated from one of my parents for a week when I was young. To be separated for such a long time… The shit is going to haunt those kids for the rest of their lives and they will likely hate those who put them through this. I know this firsthand just based how lost I felt in my experience.",
">\n\nSome good news.",
">\n\nOh, well that's good news.",
">\n\nBut I was told in 2016 that Democrats were the same as Republicans.",
">\n\nI know the mods have that thing about being courteous to others blah blah blah, but fuck trump...",
">\n\nYes, but there are still an estimated 1,000 more that they can’t even find yet. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nThe headline shouldn't exist but half the country literally voted for this to happen. It's insane. Ashamed to be an American.",
">\n\nAfter the last child is reunited with family, Melania's \"I don't really care do you\" jacket will be displayed in the Smithsonian.",
">\n\n*Biden administration reunites 700 kids taken from parents under trump",
">\n\nOnly 49,300 to go.",
">\n\nThe Trump administration was monstrous. If there is such a thing as Karma this country has a lot to pay for…",
">\n\nI hope they use this to finally lock up Trump and his goons. This is disgusting and a stain on the US.",
">\n\nThe right thing to do.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\n/r/Orphancrushingmachine",
">\n\nWhy are the Republicans such pieces of shit? The whole fucking Republican Party needs to be done away with permanently.",
">\n\nIts still happening. Reuniting kids is great and all but if the same policies that separated them still exist it doesn't mean anything",
">\n\nbelongs in /r/upliftingnews!",
">\n\nHonestly it baffles me why people see “horrendous injustice addressed after long delay” and say “/r/upliftingnews”. There’s nothing uplifting about this story, everyone should be enraged.",
">\n\nEveryone is enraged all the time about everything and then go to Reddit or Twitter to make comments which does nothing.",
">\n\nAt least enraged people acknowledge the problem. Toxic positivity does less than that.",
">\n\nGood. Shame on the previous terroristic administration for the separations in the first place.",
">\n\nBut my dad won’t be talking about this. \nOnly that Biden keeps on sending money to Ukraine and his social security is going to run out. \nIt’s kind of funny at this point.",
">\n\nRemind him that his social security will run out, but you won’t get any because we don’t fucking tax the rich like we did before the 80s.",
">\n\nGOP, the party of family values",
">\n\nPutin the dwarf and Donnie the orange-haired orangutan had a lot in common.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nAlternative headline: US returns some of the kids they stole and lost",
">\n\nPeace of garbage: Trump. Hope same happens to his children and grand children",
">\n\nFrom the thumbnail, i was confused and worried . I thought I was about to read Jeff Bezos stole kids to work in Amazon warehouses or something. >_< don't act like it's unreasonable given the last 7 years.",
">\n\nBiden administration making a task force to reunite families, after being in the administration that bolstered the same organization that separated the kids is a joke lol\nI beg for Reddit to look at the bigger picture then just “trump bad, blue good”",
">\n\nYou're incorrectly conflating two issues. \nDeportations have to happen if we are going to protect our borders. But we can be compassionate while deporting people, like by not over-crowding facilities, providing basic sanitary needs, and keeping families together as a unit throughout the process.\nThe Trump administration issued a \"zero tolerance\" family seperation policy. It meant that children were seperated from their families as a matter of policy, with no concern for proper record keeping to reunite the families once a verdict in their case had been reached. The administration also allowed its facilities to overcrowd, and there are many reports of inadequate sanitary supplies. \nTheir point was cruelty.\nThe policy was rescinded as soon as the Biden administration took office.",
">\n\nWe must protect our borders!!! 🔴 “booooooooo”\nWe must protect our borders!!! 🔵 “yeahhh!!!!”\nYou do know the majority of illegal immigration is from airplanes right? You do realize ICE in general illegally block’s asylum seekers yeah? We must protect the borders!!! \nZero tolerance, but only detaining “threats” (literally anyone a government body can deem a threat, just look at our jail system) is good! Bc framing it that was makes it better",
">\n\nIts like you're trying to weaponize missing the point",
">\n\nHopefully they were reunited back in their country of origin.",
">\n\nWhy?\nWhat's wrong with people coming to this country and becoming Americans?"
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"The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children. In 30 years from now we will be seeing documentaries about children who suffered permanent psychological damage at the hands of Trumps administration. People will be shocked to learn that the U.S. government focible took these peoples children and intentionally separated them to be cruel.",
">\n\nThe people who supported it will pretend they never knew anything about it and act shocked and disgusted.",
">\n\nThey already are claiming this did not happen or Obama did it or some other nonsense. Let me clear: Trump instituted a policy to forcibly separate children (including infants) from their legal asylum-seekng parents at the border. He did this to be cruel and scare people from coming. His minions then forgot to keep records of who the kids were.",
">\n\nI'd only argue with \"forgot.\" They intentionally didn't keep records so as to make it as difficult as possible to reunite these families. The cruelty was the point. In fact, they outright declared that they were doing this to try to dissuade people from coming to America. \"Try to seek asylum in America and we'll separate you from your kids who you'll never see again!\"",
">\n\n\"The laws are the laws\" = dead giveaway for a fascist. The law is there to serve the people. If it's not serving them, it should be changed.",
">\n\nWhat really gives away the game is politicians supporting and pushing through laws that do not have majority public support - anti-marijuana and abortion come to mind. Also the use of propaganda to try to affect levels of support for certain things.",
">\n\nA piece of legislation is almost always guaranteed to fail if it polls extremely popular with Americans on all sides. It's really sad...",
">\n\nYep, like “80% of Americans support this” and they’re uh… “oh but some discredited propaganda bullshit”. Really gives away who they are truly working for.",
">\n\nNo, they'll have their \"experts\" testify that they're correct. Then you find out the \"expert\" talking about MJ legalization is a LEO and the \"expert\" talking about abortion is a religious leader.",
">\n\nThe people who did this belong on trail for crimes against humanity at the Hague.\nActual consequences? Fuckin' crickets as usual.",
">\n\nReminder that under Bush the US granted itself permission to invade The Hague If an American citizen should ever be tried there.",
">\n\nWe should send Bush to be tried there.",
">\n\nTrump and his henchmen should be charged for these crimes. Of all of Trump's crimes, I think the concentration camps for immigrants and separating immigrants from their children were among the worst. We have to punish them or this will happen again next time they have the presidency.",
">\n\nAmerica doesn't punish Republican crimes.\n\nSource: Jan 6th",
">\n\nThe list of sources is very long.",
">\n\nIt starts at least with the Watergate. GWB never answered to war crimes or to lying to start a war. And Trump pardon the only person charged in the Valery Plane affair.",
">\n\nDidn't Nixon interfere with the peace process in Vietnam, extending the war so his opponent wouldn't get a win right before the election?",
">\n\nYep.",
">\n\nStephen Miller should be in a 6 x 9",
">\n\nAre there any cells smaller than that for that pea brained asshat?",
">\n\nThere’s a box",
">\n\nIf it fits it sits",
">\n\nThis program of separating parents from their children without documentation is going to be remembered in the same way we talk about the Syphilis Study at Tuskegee. Except that was the 1930s.\nOne of these days some of those kids are going to take their pound of flesh out of the United States either legally or violently, and they'll have right on their side.",
">\n\nnah, the fascists will have rewritten history in the US by then. Our kids will never learn about any of it unless we move.",
">\n\nPresident Ron Desantis III will remove it from the national curriculum.",
">\n\nProbably in a governor position he would still have that power",
">\n\nNever forget this was a crime against humanity. Conservatives supported it. Even your so called “moderate conservative friends”\nIf it had been your kid they wouldn’t give a fuck.\nIn 20 years people will call it a stain on our nation. But the sociopaths who enabled it are here right now.",
">\n\nThe sociopaths who enabled it are in a very good position to seize absolute control of our country, too.",
">\n\nDon’t forget that it’s the trump supporters that empowered the sociopaths.",
">\n\nIt boggles my mind how there isn't a bigger deal made of this. They stole kids from their parents. Any time it pops into my head, I'm infuriated. In a just world, Trump and his administration would be harshly punished.",
">\n\nSeriously. It is crime against HUMANITY",
">\n\nDOJ should throw kidnapping charges onto the pile of Trump crimes.",
">\n\nKidnapped. That's called kidnapping.",
">\n\nAbduction, human trafficking, genocide.\nTake your pick.",
">\n\nThis needs to be made into a drama doc, like the recent Jeffrey Dahmer series. I guarantee it would make a compelling story, and if done right, it would reach even strong trump supporters just by virtue of it's entertainment value. \nThis whole debacle was one of the cruelest things the US has done in decades, and it was done with Glee by a mentally unstable maniac and his supporters. The sooner we see it through the lens of history and regret, the better",
">\n\nWe better hurry before the republicans ban all history.",
">\n\nThis is only happening because trump never had a plan to reunite the families.\nFor those in the back. He ripped apart families with NO INTENTION OF THEM EVER BEING REUNITED.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. In order to create a situation like this, they had to have the intent to prevent the reuniting of families.",
">\n\nIt pains me to think how great this nation could be if the government didnt have to spend time and resources fixing the things republican admins did",
">\n\nIt's such an insane cycle. Conservatives fuck shit up, Dems finally get back in and spend the entire time fixing shit, conservatives run on \"look, they didn't make anything better!\", get back in to fuck shit up. Rinse and repeat.",
">\n\nExcept Dems (if they actually focus on it) are usually only able to fix 70ish% of the budgetary and humanitarian issues that were cause by the previous administration. Then when they lose reelection we slip further backwards.",
">\n\nWhat do you mean if?",
">\n\nIf they focus on repairing damage instead of squabbling with each other (which happens a lot).",
">\n\nAs a Mexican immigrant I really appreciate this",
">\n\nI just wish we had received the same support nationwide like BLM did.",
">\n\nOutraged Republicans demand to know why they were not sold to traffickers as they planned.",
">\n\nThink of all that could have been accomplished in the same time with the same effort if we didn't need them to focus on this. Every Democratic administration is hobbled by needing to undo the evils of the Republicans before them. And it doesn't go the other way because it only takes a second to wreck something, but it takes time to do things right.",
">\n\nContrarily to what the aryicle stars, they were not crossing illegaly. They came as asylum seekers, which is legal. Many (all?) of them arrived at official points of entry. These are not people who were arrested crossing the river in the middle of the night (not that it would justify taking their kids in any way).",
">\n\nOf course the Republican subs are silent on this\nFuck trump",
">\n\ngiving them all citizenship and all of their families is the least we could do for what we've done to those kids",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nThey’ll still be traumatized for the rest of their lives. Drug addiction, depression, suicides will plague these children. If there were any justice, the architects of this policy should be charged with crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nTypical go to of Christian nationalists is to steal children.",
">\n\nI guess the conservatives are ok as long it isn't their child or children.",
">\n\nI want to remind everyone here that Trump's ICE not only separated countless children from their parents, they then \"LOST\" them. Trafficked. They trafficked them. But they called them \"lost\". Then, in an absolutely astounding act of evil and affirmation of cruelty, they released the numbers to the public: 1488 lost children.\nYes. That's right. 1488, the same number literal nazis hold sacred.\nThe depth of evil and abuse and violence the right has descended to should be SO MUCH more alarming to more people. In case you think the assertion that the children were trafficked is alarmist please remember when they caught ICE transporting children without paperwork in the dead of night or keeping children in hotels without due process then sending them back to mexico with no transition process so they were essentially homeless.",
">\n\nWow. That is incredibly evil.",
">\n\nThe GOP are the Nazis come again. Time is a flat circle and most of the circle is fascism",
">\n\nNearly 75 percent is better than I expected, and they're still working. One small cause for optimism.",
">\n\nI wouldn't call it a small cause. This is pretty massive, actually following through with fixing this disgusting miscarriage of justice. I remember reading about this stuff happening and thinking that it would have to be a priority for a new administration. Glad it's being handled.",
">\n\nI remember reading this and thinking ‘holy fucking shit’, and my view on USA has not been the same since.\nThe fact Trump still got 70+ million votes after mandating/ordering this policy is insane.",
">\n\nTrump voters tend to be low information. If they even heard about this, they heard someone on Fox/Newsmax/twitter defending it or saying it was fantastic while distorting the truth about it.",
">\n\nI’d like to think they were ignorant, but somehow it all adds up. I can’t let it go.",
">\n\nNot enough, but it’s a start.",
">\n\nCrimes against humanity.",
">\n\nJesus Christ Trump was a disaster, we're just now returning the kids to their parents though?!? The damage we caused will never go away.",
">\n\nOver 2000 were returned during the Trump administration so these are part of the harder to find parents.",
">\n\nSomething tells me this will not be on many news stations tonight.",
">\n\nFinally. This is why I voted in 2020",
">\n\nI will be enraged until the headline reads ALL!",
">\n\nUnfortunately, that might never happen given that the Trump administration managed to lose track of a bunch of them. I wish I was making that up.",
">\n\nHow about the DOJ criminally prosecute the architects and others who had a hand in this heinous crime?",
">\n\n\nAccording to figures released by the Department of Homeland Security, 3,881 children were separated from their families from 2017 to 2021. About 74% of those have been reunited with their families: 2,176 before the task force was created and 689 afterward.\nBut that still leaves nearly 1,000 children. Of those, 148 are in the reunification process. The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children.\n\nUgh, close but not close enough to fixing this mistake.",
">\n\nRemember when the Trump administration claimed that it was impossible to reunite the families?",
">\n\nWhy do we always have to clean up after Republicans? Getting tiresome.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that because the separation policy was specifically designed to deter certain kinds of people from seeking asylum, these kidnappings qualify as a crime against humanity under international law.",
">\n\nA whole bunch of them were trafficked to the upper Midwest to work the overnight shift on meat packing plant floors. It was only uncovered when one of their middle school teachers called CPS because these kids were coming in with severe chemical burns on their hands and arms. And, yes - after working the overnight shift cleaning a meat processing plant floor, these kids were going to school all day. The youngest was 12.",
">\n\nOh no. Just appalling",
">\n\nBecause it’s the right thing to do. Well done. Still going to be a long road toward healing for those poor kids.",
">\n\nI'm still stunned nobody has gone to jail for this and that the US public did not draw the line at this. It is sickening.",
">\n\nWe don’t get credit for fixing our own fuckup",
">\n\nIt is SHAMEFUL how these people were treated.",
">\n\nThat is wonderful news. Trump and his administration were so evil and cruel. I can't imagine how anyone could be so heartless.",
">\n\nHow many of these kids were molested by Trump supporters? Not zero.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to think if Trump was still POTUS, these (and likely many more) kids would still be lost.",
">\n\nNot enough is made over the evil that Trump and Stephen Miller committed during this fiasco. \nObjectively horrific, vile men.",
">\n\nNever forget there was one boy who died in his own vomit for hours before someone checked up on him. My blood still seethes thinking about it.\nHis name was Carlos Gregorio Hernandez Vasquez, he was 16 from Guatemala.",
">\n\nI'm very happy to read this. That said, the fact that this ever happened (and I don't care who it happens under) is disgusting and needs to be completely stopped from happening again.",
">\n\nThis should be much bigger news",
">\n\nHow many years were these kids without their parents in a government camp?",
">\n\nClose to four years.",
">\n\nOh yea I forgot he did this, the absolute sicko",
">\n\nThis is real oppressive fascist shit, my dear Americans. Except those who should hear this either won't read this or don't have a problem with it...",
">\n\nThis probably puts SStephen Miller in the deepest of funks.",
">\n\nGenuinely good news and a step towards righting an intentionally monstrous act.",
">\n\nhow many more are there? how many were raped? how many died?",
">\n\nIt's good to see the nation moving closer to its founding principles.",
">\n\nIf this is true, it’s the only news I heard today that I give a single fuck about. Wow. YES. Keep going. 100% reunification.",
">\n\nThere are still missing children.",
">\n\nTrAnS pEoPlE aRe GrOoMiNg OuR cHiLdReN. No, there not, and your outrage would be more effective if it targeted the POS you voted for.",
">\n\nTrump reign of terror was so barbaric.",
">\n\nThing is. .....Republicans are probably unhappy about this.",
">\n\nThis definitely put a smile on my face! :)",
">\n\nUS reunites nearly 700 kids taken from parents under ~~Trump~~ the republicans.",
">\n\nSomehow trump will take credit for this. He'll say something like how much better he made those parents appreciate their children and the children their parents. Ugh.",
">\n\nbold of you to assume he'll pay any attention at all to them.",
">\n\nHow I fucking wish \"Kids in cages\" never became the misleading rallying cry against Trump when kidnapped children was the more accurate description of what the administration was doing that needed to be stopped immediately.\nHow many times have you seen some galaxy brain talk about how \"Oh nobody says 'kids in cages' anymore now that it's ok Biden is doing it!\" Yeah it was a stupid and inaccurate criticism to begin with, because any kind of policy of detaining people caught trying to cross the border illegally will fit the \"kids in cages\" meme. \nThe entire reason people got mad at Trump beyond the border wall nonsense was because he specifically ordered a family separation policy that was designed to function as a cruel deterrent to immigration. The Obama administration was forced to adopt a family separation policy because courts ruled that minors could not be detained with adults when detained by ICE, but the Trump administration embraced this policy and added on kidnapping and forced separation across the country which resembled human trafficking more than any kind of immigration policy.\nAnd yeah, Biden is reuniting people while still maintaining a policy of not letting anyone cross the border anywhere at any time for any reason. We can talk about the ethics of detaining people caught trying to cross a national border illegally, and we should. But its an entirely separate discussion from whether one should steal their kids and ship them across the country and throw away the records of where they went.",
">\n\nAnother horrifying legacy of the US.",
">\n\nStephen Miller needs to be permanently attached to this heartless decision.",
">\n\nThe damage has been done. It's literally the least we can do is give them their children back.. I can't even believe that sentence needed to be said. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nFinally, someone thought of the children",
">\n\nYet another crime that orange gasbag will never be punished for…",
">\n\nThis chapter of Trump's presidency was truly mask off evil from the party that professes that they are the party of morals and family values. Before this people could argue that they could be afforded the benefit of the doubt. I kind of knew that Republicans were trolls and bad faith actors but then after this I knew that they really have no bottom line with how low they are willing to go. Truly evil what they did to those desperate families and kids when it would have been the easiest thing in the world to just not.",
">\n\nThis is not the same war crime Russia is doing in the Ukraine. It's a completely different war crime.",
">\n\nIt's sad and despicable that this is even necessary.",
">\n\nThis post has about 670 comments. Imagine if every single one of them was a family reunion. Heartbreaking cruelty from the last administration.",
">\n\nThe Trimp administration did a lot terrible things and had plenty of awful, harmful policies. But this is one of those times when it crossed the line into literal evil.",
">\n\nI figured this was happening in the background but damn it's heartbreaking that it's taking this long because of how thoroughly Trump fucked up any semblance of process for the DHS\nLike don't get me wrong, anyone who works for ICE is and always has been a disgusting pig, but they used to be disgusting pigs bound by similar levels of US bureaucracy as the rest of the government",
">\n\nThis was a very good thing to do and the media isn’t talking about it.",
">\n\nThis needs to be bigger news",
">\n\nWhat the hell AP, it was the US under Trump too. Maybe a better headline might have been \"Biden admin reunites nearly 700...\"",
">\n\nOur bad, we did teach the kid to walk and talk, she mostly knows to say “put your hands through the bars” but still.",
">\n\nThis is news I've been waiting 6 years for.",
">\n\nWas Eric one of them?",
">\n\nI will look for you, I will find you and I will reunite you",
">\n\nLike the motherfucking handmaids tale or some shit",
">\n\nIt's nice for the country to be taking a step back towards its ideals.",
">\n\nWhy the fuck is this not plastered all over the news? This was an international outrage for years and now it’s a tiny news story thrown in on a Friday? Whomever is in charge of the WH Press Office should be ashamed.",
">\n\nNot sure what the White House Press Office could do here if outlets simply don't bother pushing the story.",
">\n\nI want to know how many are still separated.\nEverything else is not good enough.",
">\n\nYou will need to do a slight bit of math when reading the article to get the exact number but it as about a thousand remaining to be united.",
">\n\nI feel for these kids (and their parents). Many of them have been sexually assaulted because no one was there to protect them.",
">\n\nGee, Trump reminds me of Hitler for some reason. Does anyone else see a similarity? One redeeming factor is that we all know how Hitler ended up.",
">\n\nIt is a great labor to undo great evils. \nGlad it's being done.",
">\n\nHow many in total were separated? 700 is great, but if there are still 1,000s more this should also be an equal amount of new coverage.",
">\n\nThe exact counts are in the article if you want them.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if the articles were meant to be read.",
">\n\nIt’s a good start",
">\n\nIs trump a Russian spy?\nA global traitor",
">\n\nWhen will the real criminals be put in jail?",
">\n\nvery nice to see this happen and hopefully never happens again.",
">\n\nI pray the remaining children are with US family members. This was an impeachable criminal act by Trump",
">\n\nThis was by far the most evil thing his administration did.",
">\n\nNow seperate Trump from his family.",
">\n\nI mean, damage done. If I was fleeing my home in terror from economic disaster, and the place I ran to stole my fucking kid from me, and I didn’t get them back for three years?…. I mean… that dude is a terrorist now. What is left in his life except to punish this country?",
">\n\nLock him up",
">\n\nSome good news",
">\n\nThis is not enough.",
">\n\nI was kidnapped and separated from one of my parents for a week when I was young. To be separated for such a long time… The shit is going to haunt those kids for the rest of their lives and they will likely hate those who put them through this. I know this firsthand just based how lost I felt in my experience.",
">\n\nSome good news.",
">\n\nOh, well that's good news.",
">\n\nBut I was told in 2016 that Democrats were the same as Republicans.",
">\n\nI know the mods have that thing about being courteous to others blah blah blah, but fuck trump...",
">\n\nYes, but there are still an estimated 1,000 more that they can’t even find yet. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nThe headline shouldn't exist but half the country literally voted for this to happen. It's insane. Ashamed to be an American.",
">\n\nAfter the last child is reunited with family, Melania's \"I don't really care do you\" jacket will be displayed in the Smithsonian.",
">\n\n*Biden administration reunites 700 kids taken from parents under trump",
">\n\nOnly 49,300 to go.",
">\n\nThe Trump administration was monstrous. If there is such a thing as Karma this country has a lot to pay for…",
">\n\nI hope they use this to finally lock up Trump and his goons. This is disgusting and a stain on the US.",
">\n\nThe right thing to do.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\n/r/Orphancrushingmachine",
">\n\nWhy are the Republicans such pieces of shit? The whole fucking Republican Party needs to be done away with permanently.",
">\n\nIts still happening. Reuniting kids is great and all but if the same policies that separated them still exist it doesn't mean anything",
">\n\nbelongs in /r/upliftingnews!",
">\n\nHonestly it baffles me why people see “horrendous injustice addressed after long delay” and say “/r/upliftingnews”. There’s nothing uplifting about this story, everyone should be enraged.",
">\n\nEveryone is enraged all the time about everything and then go to Reddit or Twitter to make comments which does nothing.",
">\n\nAt least enraged people acknowledge the problem. Toxic positivity does less than that.",
">\n\nGood. Shame on the previous terroristic administration for the separations in the first place.",
">\n\nBut my dad won’t be talking about this. \nOnly that Biden keeps on sending money to Ukraine and his social security is going to run out. \nIt’s kind of funny at this point.",
">\n\nRemind him that his social security will run out, but you won’t get any because we don’t fucking tax the rich like we did before the 80s.",
">\n\nGOP, the party of family values",
">\n\nPutin the dwarf and Donnie the orange-haired orangutan had a lot in common.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nAlternative headline: US returns some of the kids they stole and lost",
">\n\nPeace of garbage: Trump. Hope same happens to his children and grand children",
">\n\nFrom the thumbnail, i was confused and worried . I thought I was about to read Jeff Bezos stole kids to work in Amazon warehouses or something. >_< don't act like it's unreasonable given the last 7 years.",
">\n\nBiden administration making a task force to reunite families, after being in the administration that bolstered the same organization that separated the kids is a joke lol\nI beg for Reddit to look at the bigger picture then just “trump bad, blue good”",
">\n\nYou're incorrectly conflating two issues. \nDeportations have to happen if we are going to protect our borders. But we can be compassionate while deporting people, like by not over-crowding facilities, providing basic sanitary needs, and keeping families together as a unit throughout the process.\nThe Trump administration issued a \"zero tolerance\" family seperation policy. It meant that children were seperated from their families as a matter of policy, with no concern for proper record keeping to reunite the families once a verdict in their case had been reached. The administration also allowed its facilities to overcrowd, and there are many reports of inadequate sanitary supplies. \nTheir point was cruelty.\nThe policy was rescinded as soon as the Biden administration took office.",
">\n\nWe must protect our borders!!! 🔴 “booooooooo”\nWe must protect our borders!!! 🔵 “yeahhh!!!!”\nYou do know the majority of illegal immigration is from airplanes right? You do realize ICE in general illegally block’s asylum seekers yeah? We must protect the borders!!! \nZero tolerance, but only detaining “threats” (literally anyone a government body can deem a threat, just look at our jail system) is good! Bc framing it that was makes it better",
">\n\nIts like you're trying to weaponize missing the point",
">\n\nHopefully they were reunited back in their country of origin.",
">\n\nWhy?\nWhat's wrong with people coming to this country and becoming Americans?",
">\n\nHave you seen the amount of people screaming to deport legal asylum seekers lately?\nThey're brown, and from another place. That's all it takes for conservatives to hate and fear you."
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"The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children. In 30 years from now we will be seeing documentaries about children who suffered permanent psychological damage at the hands of Trumps administration. People will be shocked to learn that the U.S. government focible took these peoples children and intentionally separated them to be cruel.",
">\n\nThe people who supported it will pretend they never knew anything about it and act shocked and disgusted.",
">\n\nThey already are claiming this did not happen or Obama did it or some other nonsense. Let me clear: Trump instituted a policy to forcibly separate children (including infants) from their legal asylum-seekng parents at the border. He did this to be cruel and scare people from coming. His minions then forgot to keep records of who the kids were.",
">\n\nI'd only argue with \"forgot.\" They intentionally didn't keep records so as to make it as difficult as possible to reunite these families. The cruelty was the point. In fact, they outright declared that they were doing this to try to dissuade people from coming to America. \"Try to seek asylum in America and we'll separate you from your kids who you'll never see again!\"",
">\n\n\"The laws are the laws\" = dead giveaway for a fascist. The law is there to serve the people. If it's not serving them, it should be changed.",
">\n\nWhat really gives away the game is politicians supporting and pushing through laws that do not have majority public support - anti-marijuana and abortion come to mind. Also the use of propaganda to try to affect levels of support for certain things.",
">\n\nA piece of legislation is almost always guaranteed to fail if it polls extremely popular with Americans on all sides. It's really sad...",
">\n\nYep, like “80% of Americans support this” and they’re uh… “oh but some discredited propaganda bullshit”. Really gives away who they are truly working for.",
">\n\nNo, they'll have their \"experts\" testify that they're correct. Then you find out the \"expert\" talking about MJ legalization is a LEO and the \"expert\" talking about abortion is a religious leader.",
">\n\nThe people who did this belong on trail for crimes against humanity at the Hague.\nActual consequences? Fuckin' crickets as usual.",
">\n\nReminder that under Bush the US granted itself permission to invade The Hague If an American citizen should ever be tried there.",
">\n\nWe should send Bush to be tried there.",
">\n\nTrump and his henchmen should be charged for these crimes. Of all of Trump's crimes, I think the concentration camps for immigrants and separating immigrants from their children were among the worst. We have to punish them or this will happen again next time they have the presidency.",
">\n\nAmerica doesn't punish Republican crimes.\n\nSource: Jan 6th",
">\n\nThe list of sources is very long.",
">\n\nIt starts at least with the Watergate. GWB never answered to war crimes or to lying to start a war. And Trump pardon the only person charged in the Valery Plane affair.",
">\n\nDidn't Nixon interfere with the peace process in Vietnam, extending the war so his opponent wouldn't get a win right before the election?",
">\n\nYep.",
">\n\nStephen Miller should be in a 6 x 9",
">\n\nAre there any cells smaller than that for that pea brained asshat?",
">\n\nThere’s a box",
">\n\nIf it fits it sits",
">\n\nThis program of separating parents from their children without documentation is going to be remembered in the same way we talk about the Syphilis Study at Tuskegee. Except that was the 1930s.\nOne of these days some of those kids are going to take their pound of flesh out of the United States either legally or violently, and they'll have right on their side.",
">\n\nnah, the fascists will have rewritten history in the US by then. Our kids will never learn about any of it unless we move.",
">\n\nPresident Ron Desantis III will remove it from the national curriculum.",
">\n\nProbably in a governor position he would still have that power",
">\n\nNever forget this was a crime against humanity. Conservatives supported it. Even your so called “moderate conservative friends”\nIf it had been your kid they wouldn’t give a fuck.\nIn 20 years people will call it a stain on our nation. But the sociopaths who enabled it are here right now.",
">\n\nThe sociopaths who enabled it are in a very good position to seize absolute control of our country, too.",
">\n\nDon’t forget that it’s the trump supporters that empowered the sociopaths.",
">\n\nIt boggles my mind how there isn't a bigger deal made of this. They stole kids from their parents. Any time it pops into my head, I'm infuriated. In a just world, Trump and his administration would be harshly punished.",
">\n\nSeriously. It is crime against HUMANITY",
">\n\nDOJ should throw kidnapping charges onto the pile of Trump crimes.",
">\n\nKidnapped. That's called kidnapping.",
">\n\nAbduction, human trafficking, genocide.\nTake your pick.",
">\n\nThis needs to be made into a drama doc, like the recent Jeffrey Dahmer series. I guarantee it would make a compelling story, and if done right, it would reach even strong trump supporters just by virtue of it's entertainment value. \nThis whole debacle was one of the cruelest things the US has done in decades, and it was done with Glee by a mentally unstable maniac and his supporters. The sooner we see it through the lens of history and regret, the better",
">\n\nWe better hurry before the republicans ban all history.",
">\n\nThis is only happening because trump never had a plan to reunite the families.\nFor those in the back. He ripped apart families with NO INTENTION OF THEM EVER BEING REUNITED.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. In order to create a situation like this, they had to have the intent to prevent the reuniting of families.",
">\n\nIt pains me to think how great this nation could be if the government didnt have to spend time and resources fixing the things republican admins did",
">\n\nIt's such an insane cycle. Conservatives fuck shit up, Dems finally get back in and spend the entire time fixing shit, conservatives run on \"look, they didn't make anything better!\", get back in to fuck shit up. Rinse and repeat.",
">\n\nExcept Dems (if they actually focus on it) are usually only able to fix 70ish% of the budgetary and humanitarian issues that were cause by the previous administration. Then when they lose reelection we slip further backwards.",
">\n\nWhat do you mean if?",
">\n\nIf they focus on repairing damage instead of squabbling with each other (which happens a lot).",
">\n\nAs a Mexican immigrant I really appreciate this",
">\n\nI just wish we had received the same support nationwide like BLM did.",
">\n\nOutraged Republicans demand to know why they were not sold to traffickers as they planned.",
">\n\nThink of all that could have been accomplished in the same time with the same effort if we didn't need them to focus on this. Every Democratic administration is hobbled by needing to undo the evils of the Republicans before them. And it doesn't go the other way because it only takes a second to wreck something, but it takes time to do things right.",
">\n\nContrarily to what the aryicle stars, they were not crossing illegaly. They came as asylum seekers, which is legal. Many (all?) of them arrived at official points of entry. These are not people who were arrested crossing the river in the middle of the night (not that it would justify taking their kids in any way).",
">\n\nOf course the Republican subs are silent on this\nFuck trump",
">\n\ngiving them all citizenship and all of their families is the least we could do for what we've done to those kids",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nThey’ll still be traumatized for the rest of their lives. Drug addiction, depression, suicides will plague these children. If there were any justice, the architects of this policy should be charged with crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nTypical go to of Christian nationalists is to steal children.",
">\n\nI guess the conservatives are ok as long it isn't their child or children.",
">\n\nI want to remind everyone here that Trump's ICE not only separated countless children from their parents, they then \"LOST\" them. Trafficked. They trafficked them. But they called them \"lost\". Then, in an absolutely astounding act of evil and affirmation of cruelty, they released the numbers to the public: 1488 lost children.\nYes. That's right. 1488, the same number literal nazis hold sacred.\nThe depth of evil and abuse and violence the right has descended to should be SO MUCH more alarming to more people. In case you think the assertion that the children were trafficked is alarmist please remember when they caught ICE transporting children without paperwork in the dead of night or keeping children in hotels without due process then sending them back to mexico with no transition process so they were essentially homeless.",
">\n\nWow. That is incredibly evil.",
">\n\nThe GOP are the Nazis come again. Time is a flat circle and most of the circle is fascism",
">\n\nNearly 75 percent is better than I expected, and they're still working. One small cause for optimism.",
">\n\nI wouldn't call it a small cause. This is pretty massive, actually following through with fixing this disgusting miscarriage of justice. I remember reading about this stuff happening and thinking that it would have to be a priority for a new administration. Glad it's being handled.",
">\n\nI remember reading this and thinking ‘holy fucking shit’, and my view on USA has not been the same since.\nThe fact Trump still got 70+ million votes after mandating/ordering this policy is insane.",
">\n\nTrump voters tend to be low information. If they even heard about this, they heard someone on Fox/Newsmax/twitter defending it or saying it was fantastic while distorting the truth about it.",
">\n\nI’d like to think they were ignorant, but somehow it all adds up. I can’t let it go.",
">\n\nNot enough, but it’s a start.",
">\n\nCrimes against humanity.",
">\n\nJesus Christ Trump was a disaster, we're just now returning the kids to their parents though?!? The damage we caused will never go away.",
">\n\nOver 2000 were returned during the Trump administration so these are part of the harder to find parents.",
">\n\nSomething tells me this will not be on many news stations tonight.",
">\n\nFinally. This is why I voted in 2020",
">\n\nI will be enraged until the headline reads ALL!",
">\n\nUnfortunately, that might never happen given that the Trump administration managed to lose track of a bunch of them. I wish I was making that up.",
">\n\nHow about the DOJ criminally prosecute the architects and others who had a hand in this heinous crime?",
">\n\n\nAccording to figures released by the Department of Homeland Security, 3,881 children were separated from their families from 2017 to 2021. About 74% of those have been reunited with their families: 2,176 before the task force was created and 689 afterward.\nBut that still leaves nearly 1,000 children. Of those, 148 are in the reunification process. The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children.\n\nUgh, close but not close enough to fixing this mistake.",
">\n\nRemember when the Trump administration claimed that it was impossible to reunite the families?",
">\n\nWhy do we always have to clean up after Republicans? Getting tiresome.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that because the separation policy was specifically designed to deter certain kinds of people from seeking asylum, these kidnappings qualify as a crime against humanity under international law.",
">\n\nA whole bunch of them were trafficked to the upper Midwest to work the overnight shift on meat packing plant floors. It was only uncovered when one of their middle school teachers called CPS because these kids were coming in with severe chemical burns on their hands and arms. And, yes - after working the overnight shift cleaning a meat processing plant floor, these kids were going to school all day. The youngest was 12.",
">\n\nOh no. Just appalling",
">\n\nBecause it’s the right thing to do. Well done. Still going to be a long road toward healing for those poor kids.",
">\n\nI'm still stunned nobody has gone to jail for this and that the US public did not draw the line at this. It is sickening.",
">\n\nWe don’t get credit for fixing our own fuckup",
">\n\nIt is SHAMEFUL how these people were treated.",
">\n\nThat is wonderful news. Trump and his administration were so evil and cruel. I can't imagine how anyone could be so heartless.",
">\n\nHow many of these kids were molested by Trump supporters? Not zero.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to think if Trump was still POTUS, these (and likely many more) kids would still be lost.",
">\n\nNot enough is made over the evil that Trump and Stephen Miller committed during this fiasco. \nObjectively horrific, vile men.",
">\n\nNever forget there was one boy who died in his own vomit for hours before someone checked up on him. My blood still seethes thinking about it.\nHis name was Carlos Gregorio Hernandez Vasquez, he was 16 from Guatemala.",
">\n\nI'm very happy to read this. That said, the fact that this ever happened (and I don't care who it happens under) is disgusting and needs to be completely stopped from happening again.",
">\n\nThis should be much bigger news",
">\n\nHow many years were these kids without their parents in a government camp?",
">\n\nClose to four years.",
">\n\nOh yea I forgot he did this, the absolute sicko",
">\n\nThis is real oppressive fascist shit, my dear Americans. Except those who should hear this either won't read this or don't have a problem with it...",
">\n\nThis probably puts SStephen Miller in the deepest of funks.",
">\n\nGenuinely good news and a step towards righting an intentionally monstrous act.",
">\n\nhow many more are there? how many were raped? how many died?",
">\n\nIt's good to see the nation moving closer to its founding principles.",
">\n\nIf this is true, it’s the only news I heard today that I give a single fuck about. Wow. YES. Keep going. 100% reunification.",
">\n\nThere are still missing children.",
">\n\nTrAnS pEoPlE aRe GrOoMiNg OuR cHiLdReN. No, there not, and your outrage would be more effective if it targeted the POS you voted for.",
">\n\nTrump reign of terror was so barbaric.",
">\n\nThing is. .....Republicans are probably unhappy about this.",
">\n\nThis definitely put a smile on my face! :)",
">\n\nUS reunites nearly 700 kids taken from parents under ~~Trump~~ the republicans.",
">\n\nSomehow trump will take credit for this. He'll say something like how much better he made those parents appreciate their children and the children their parents. Ugh.",
">\n\nbold of you to assume he'll pay any attention at all to them.",
">\n\nHow I fucking wish \"Kids in cages\" never became the misleading rallying cry against Trump when kidnapped children was the more accurate description of what the administration was doing that needed to be stopped immediately.\nHow many times have you seen some galaxy brain talk about how \"Oh nobody says 'kids in cages' anymore now that it's ok Biden is doing it!\" Yeah it was a stupid and inaccurate criticism to begin with, because any kind of policy of detaining people caught trying to cross the border illegally will fit the \"kids in cages\" meme. \nThe entire reason people got mad at Trump beyond the border wall nonsense was because he specifically ordered a family separation policy that was designed to function as a cruel deterrent to immigration. The Obama administration was forced to adopt a family separation policy because courts ruled that minors could not be detained with adults when detained by ICE, but the Trump administration embraced this policy and added on kidnapping and forced separation across the country which resembled human trafficking more than any kind of immigration policy.\nAnd yeah, Biden is reuniting people while still maintaining a policy of not letting anyone cross the border anywhere at any time for any reason. We can talk about the ethics of detaining people caught trying to cross a national border illegally, and we should. But its an entirely separate discussion from whether one should steal their kids and ship them across the country and throw away the records of where they went.",
">\n\nAnother horrifying legacy of the US.",
">\n\nStephen Miller needs to be permanently attached to this heartless decision.",
">\n\nThe damage has been done. It's literally the least we can do is give them their children back.. I can't even believe that sentence needed to be said. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nFinally, someone thought of the children",
">\n\nYet another crime that orange gasbag will never be punished for…",
">\n\nThis chapter of Trump's presidency was truly mask off evil from the party that professes that they are the party of morals and family values. Before this people could argue that they could be afforded the benefit of the doubt. I kind of knew that Republicans were trolls and bad faith actors but then after this I knew that they really have no bottom line with how low they are willing to go. Truly evil what they did to those desperate families and kids when it would have been the easiest thing in the world to just not.",
">\n\nThis is not the same war crime Russia is doing in the Ukraine. It's a completely different war crime.",
">\n\nIt's sad and despicable that this is even necessary.",
">\n\nThis post has about 670 comments. Imagine if every single one of them was a family reunion. Heartbreaking cruelty from the last administration.",
">\n\nThe Trimp administration did a lot terrible things and had plenty of awful, harmful policies. But this is one of those times when it crossed the line into literal evil.",
">\n\nI figured this was happening in the background but damn it's heartbreaking that it's taking this long because of how thoroughly Trump fucked up any semblance of process for the DHS\nLike don't get me wrong, anyone who works for ICE is and always has been a disgusting pig, but they used to be disgusting pigs bound by similar levels of US bureaucracy as the rest of the government",
">\n\nThis was a very good thing to do and the media isn’t talking about it.",
">\n\nThis needs to be bigger news",
">\n\nWhat the hell AP, it was the US under Trump too. Maybe a better headline might have been \"Biden admin reunites nearly 700...\"",
">\n\nOur bad, we did teach the kid to walk and talk, she mostly knows to say “put your hands through the bars” but still.",
">\n\nThis is news I've been waiting 6 years for.",
">\n\nWas Eric one of them?",
">\n\nI will look for you, I will find you and I will reunite you",
">\n\nLike the motherfucking handmaids tale or some shit",
">\n\nIt's nice for the country to be taking a step back towards its ideals.",
">\n\nWhy the fuck is this not plastered all over the news? This was an international outrage for years and now it’s a tiny news story thrown in on a Friday? Whomever is in charge of the WH Press Office should be ashamed.",
">\n\nNot sure what the White House Press Office could do here if outlets simply don't bother pushing the story.",
">\n\nI want to know how many are still separated.\nEverything else is not good enough.",
">\n\nYou will need to do a slight bit of math when reading the article to get the exact number but it as about a thousand remaining to be united.",
">\n\nI feel for these kids (and their parents). Many of them have been sexually assaulted because no one was there to protect them.",
">\n\nGee, Trump reminds me of Hitler for some reason. Does anyone else see a similarity? One redeeming factor is that we all know how Hitler ended up.",
">\n\nIt is a great labor to undo great evils. \nGlad it's being done.",
">\n\nHow many in total were separated? 700 is great, but if there are still 1,000s more this should also be an equal amount of new coverage.",
">\n\nThe exact counts are in the article if you want them.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if the articles were meant to be read.",
">\n\nIt’s a good start",
">\n\nIs trump a Russian spy?\nA global traitor",
">\n\nWhen will the real criminals be put in jail?",
">\n\nvery nice to see this happen and hopefully never happens again.",
">\n\nI pray the remaining children are with US family members. This was an impeachable criminal act by Trump",
">\n\nThis was by far the most evil thing his administration did.",
">\n\nNow seperate Trump from his family.",
">\n\nI mean, damage done. If I was fleeing my home in terror from economic disaster, and the place I ran to stole my fucking kid from me, and I didn’t get them back for three years?…. I mean… that dude is a terrorist now. What is left in his life except to punish this country?",
">\n\nLock him up",
">\n\nSome good news",
">\n\nThis is not enough.",
">\n\nI was kidnapped and separated from one of my parents for a week when I was young. To be separated for such a long time… The shit is going to haunt those kids for the rest of their lives and they will likely hate those who put them through this. I know this firsthand just based how lost I felt in my experience.",
">\n\nSome good news.",
">\n\nOh, well that's good news.",
">\n\nBut I was told in 2016 that Democrats were the same as Republicans.",
">\n\nI know the mods have that thing about being courteous to others blah blah blah, but fuck trump...",
">\n\nYes, but there are still an estimated 1,000 more that they can’t even find yet. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nThe headline shouldn't exist but half the country literally voted for this to happen. It's insane. Ashamed to be an American.",
">\n\nAfter the last child is reunited with family, Melania's \"I don't really care do you\" jacket will be displayed in the Smithsonian.",
">\n\n*Biden administration reunites 700 kids taken from parents under trump",
">\n\nOnly 49,300 to go.",
">\n\nThe Trump administration was monstrous. If there is such a thing as Karma this country has a lot to pay for…",
">\n\nI hope they use this to finally lock up Trump and his goons. This is disgusting and a stain on the US.",
">\n\nThe right thing to do.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\n/r/Orphancrushingmachine",
">\n\nWhy are the Republicans such pieces of shit? The whole fucking Republican Party needs to be done away with permanently.",
">\n\nIts still happening. Reuniting kids is great and all but if the same policies that separated them still exist it doesn't mean anything",
">\n\nbelongs in /r/upliftingnews!",
">\n\nHonestly it baffles me why people see “horrendous injustice addressed after long delay” and say “/r/upliftingnews”. There’s nothing uplifting about this story, everyone should be enraged.",
">\n\nEveryone is enraged all the time about everything and then go to Reddit or Twitter to make comments which does nothing.",
">\n\nAt least enraged people acknowledge the problem. Toxic positivity does less than that.",
">\n\nGood. Shame on the previous terroristic administration for the separations in the first place.",
">\n\nBut my dad won’t be talking about this. \nOnly that Biden keeps on sending money to Ukraine and his social security is going to run out. \nIt’s kind of funny at this point.",
">\n\nRemind him that his social security will run out, but you won’t get any because we don’t fucking tax the rich like we did before the 80s.",
">\n\nGOP, the party of family values",
">\n\nPutin the dwarf and Donnie the orange-haired orangutan had a lot in common.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nAlternative headline: US returns some of the kids they stole and lost",
">\n\nPeace of garbage: Trump. Hope same happens to his children and grand children",
">\n\nFrom the thumbnail, i was confused and worried . I thought I was about to read Jeff Bezos stole kids to work in Amazon warehouses or something. >_< don't act like it's unreasonable given the last 7 years.",
">\n\nBiden administration making a task force to reunite families, after being in the administration that bolstered the same organization that separated the kids is a joke lol\nI beg for Reddit to look at the bigger picture then just “trump bad, blue good”",
">\n\nYou're incorrectly conflating two issues. \nDeportations have to happen if we are going to protect our borders. But we can be compassionate while deporting people, like by not over-crowding facilities, providing basic sanitary needs, and keeping families together as a unit throughout the process.\nThe Trump administration issued a \"zero tolerance\" family seperation policy. It meant that children were seperated from their families as a matter of policy, with no concern for proper record keeping to reunite the families once a verdict in their case had been reached. The administration also allowed its facilities to overcrowd, and there are many reports of inadequate sanitary supplies. \nTheir point was cruelty.\nThe policy was rescinded as soon as the Biden administration took office.",
">\n\nWe must protect our borders!!! 🔴 “booooooooo”\nWe must protect our borders!!! 🔵 “yeahhh!!!!”\nYou do know the majority of illegal immigration is from airplanes right? You do realize ICE in general illegally block’s asylum seekers yeah? We must protect the borders!!! \nZero tolerance, but only detaining “threats” (literally anyone a government body can deem a threat, just look at our jail system) is good! Bc framing it that was makes it better",
">\n\nIts like you're trying to weaponize missing the point",
">\n\nHopefully they were reunited back in their country of origin.",
">\n\nWhy?\nWhat's wrong with people coming to this country and becoming Americans?",
">\n\nHave you seen the amount of people screaming to deport legal asylum seekers lately?\nThey're brown, and from another place. That's all it takes for conservatives to hate and fear you.",
">\n\nHow many times does it need to be said.\nMilitary Industrial Organization"
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Finally. I was starting to wonder if the Biden administration had completely forgotten about them. Let's hope that they get every child safety reunited with their families.
Also, we can't just stop here with immigration- we need to safely let in more refugees and asylum seekers. If we can let in ones from Ukraine, then we should be able to let in ones from Syria and other countries. | [
"The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children. In 30 years from now we will be seeing documentaries about children who suffered permanent psychological damage at the hands of Trumps administration. People will be shocked to learn that the U.S. government focible took these peoples children and intentionally separated them to be cruel.",
">\n\nThe people who supported it will pretend they never knew anything about it and act shocked and disgusted.",
">\n\nThey already are claiming this did not happen or Obama did it or some other nonsense. Let me clear: Trump instituted a policy to forcibly separate children (including infants) from their legal asylum-seekng parents at the border. He did this to be cruel and scare people from coming. His minions then forgot to keep records of who the kids were.",
">\n\nI'd only argue with \"forgot.\" They intentionally didn't keep records so as to make it as difficult as possible to reunite these families. The cruelty was the point. In fact, they outright declared that they were doing this to try to dissuade people from coming to America. \"Try to seek asylum in America and we'll separate you from your kids who you'll never see again!\"",
">\n\n\"The laws are the laws\" = dead giveaway for a fascist. The law is there to serve the people. If it's not serving them, it should be changed.",
">\n\nWhat really gives away the game is politicians supporting and pushing through laws that do not have majority public support - anti-marijuana and abortion come to mind. Also the use of propaganda to try to affect levels of support for certain things.",
">\n\nA piece of legislation is almost always guaranteed to fail if it polls extremely popular with Americans on all sides. It's really sad...",
">\n\nYep, like “80% of Americans support this” and they’re uh… “oh but some discredited propaganda bullshit”. Really gives away who they are truly working for.",
">\n\nNo, they'll have their \"experts\" testify that they're correct. Then you find out the \"expert\" talking about MJ legalization is a LEO and the \"expert\" talking about abortion is a religious leader.",
">\n\nThe people who did this belong on trail for crimes against humanity at the Hague.\nActual consequences? Fuckin' crickets as usual.",
">\n\nReminder that under Bush the US granted itself permission to invade The Hague If an American citizen should ever be tried there.",
">\n\nWe should send Bush to be tried there.",
">\n\nTrump and his henchmen should be charged for these crimes. Of all of Trump's crimes, I think the concentration camps for immigrants and separating immigrants from their children were among the worst. We have to punish them or this will happen again next time they have the presidency.",
">\n\nAmerica doesn't punish Republican crimes.\n\nSource: Jan 6th",
">\n\nThe list of sources is very long.",
">\n\nIt starts at least with the Watergate. GWB never answered to war crimes or to lying to start a war. And Trump pardon the only person charged in the Valery Plane affair.",
">\n\nDidn't Nixon interfere with the peace process in Vietnam, extending the war so his opponent wouldn't get a win right before the election?",
">\n\nYep.",
">\n\nStephen Miller should be in a 6 x 9",
">\n\nAre there any cells smaller than that for that pea brained asshat?",
">\n\nThere’s a box",
">\n\nIf it fits it sits",
">\n\nThis program of separating parents from their children without documentation is going to be remembered in the same way we talk about the Syphilis Study at Tuskegee. Except that was the 1930s.\nOne of these days some of those kids are going to take their pound of flesh out of the United States either legally or violently, and they'll have right on their side.",
">\n\nnah, the fascists will have rewritten history in the US by then. Our kids will never learn about any of it unless we move.",
">\n\nPresident Ron Desantis III will remove it from the national curriculum.",
">\n\nProbably in a governor position he would still have that power",
">\n\nNever forget this was a crime against humanity. Conservatives supported it. Even your so called “moderate conservative friends”\nIf it had been your kid they wouldn’t give a fuck.\nIn 20 years people will call it a stain on our nation. But the sociopaths who enabled it are here right now.",
">\n\nThe sociopaths who enabled it are in a very good position to seize absolute control of our country, too.",
">\n\nDon’t forget that it’s the trump supporters that empowered the sociopaths.",
">\n\nIt boggles my mind how there isn't a bigger deal made of this. They stole kids from their parents. Any time it pops into my head, I'm infuriated. In a just world, Trump and his administration would be harshly punished.",
">\n\nSeriously. It is crime against HUMANITY",
">\n\nDOJ should throw kidnapping charges onto the pile of Trump crimes.",
">\n\nKidnapped. That's called kidnapping.",
">\n\nAbduction, human trafficking, genocide.\nTake your pick.",
">\n\nThis needs to be made into a drama doc, like the recent Jeffrey Dahmer series. I guarantee it would make a compelling story, and if done right, it would reach even strong trump supporters just by virtue of it's entertainment value. \nThis whole debacle was one of the cruelest things the US has done in decades, and it was done with Glee by a mentally unstable maniac and his supporters. The sooner we see it through the lens of history and regret, the better",
">\n\nWe better hurry before the republicans ban all history.",
">\n\nThis is only happening because trump never had a plan to reunite the families.\nFor those in the back. He ripped apart families with NO INTENTION OF THEM EVER BEING REUNITED.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. In order to create a situation like this, they had to have the intent to prevent the reuniting of families.",
">\n\nIt pains me to think how great this nation could be if the government didnt have to spend time and resources fixing the things republican admins did",
">\n\nIt's such an insane cycle. Conservatives fuck shit up, Dems finally get back in and spend the entire time fixing shit, conservatives run on \"look, they didn't make anything better!\", get back in to fuck shit up. Rinse and repeat.",
">\n\nExcept Dems (if they actually focus on it) are usually only able to fix 70ish% of the budgetary and humanitarian issues that were cause by the previous administration. Then when they lose reelection we slip further backwards.",
">\n\nWhat do you mean if?",
">\n\nIf they focus on repairing damage instead of squabbling with each other (which happens a lot).",
">\n\nAs a Mexican immigrant I really appreciate this",
">\n\nI just wish we had received the same support nationwide like BLM did.",
">\n\nOutraged Republicans demand to know why they were not sold to traffickers as they planned.",
">\n\nThink of all that could have been accomplished in the same time with the same effort if we didn't need them to focus on this. Every Democratic administration is hobbled by needing to undo the evils of the Republicans before them. And it doesn't go the other way because it only takes a second to wreck something, but it takes time to do things right.",
">\n\nContrarily to what the aryicle stars, they were not crossing illegaly. They came as asylum seekers, which is legal. Many (all?) of them arrived at official points of entry. These are not people who were arrested crossing the river in the middle of the night (not that it would justify taking their kids in any way).",
">\n\nOf course the Republican subs are silent on this\nFuck trump",
">\n\ngiving them all citizenship and all of their families is the least we could do for what we've done to those kids",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nThey’ll still be traumatized for the rest of their lives. Drug addiction, depression, suicides will plague these children. If there were any justice, the architects of this policy should be charged with crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nTypical go to of Christian nationalists is to steal children.",
">\n\nI guess the conservatives are ok as long it isn't their child or children.",
">\n\nI want to remind everyone here that Trump's ICE not only separated countless children from their parents, they then \"LOST\" them. Trafficked. They trafficked them. But they called them \"lost\". Then, in an absolutely astounding act of evil and affirmation of cruelty, they released the numbers to the public: 1488 lost children.\nYes. That's right. 1488, the same number literal nazis hold sacred.\nThe depth of evil and abuse and violence the right has descended to should be SO MUCH more alarming to more people. In case you think the assertion that the children were trafficked is alarmist please remember when they caught ICE transporting children without paperwork in the dead of night or keeping children in hotels without due process then sending them back to mexico with no transition process so they were essentially homeless.",
">\n\nWow. That is incredibly evil.",
">\n\nThe GOP are the Nazis come again. Time is a flat circle and most of the circle is fascism",
">\n\nNearly 75 percent is better than I expected, and they're still working. One small cause for optimism.",
">\n\nI wouldn't call it a small cause. This is pretty massive, actually following through with fixing this disgusting miscarriage of justice. I remember reading about this stuff happening and thinking that it would have to be a priority for a new administration. Glad it's being handled.",
">\n\nI remember reading this and thinking ‘holy fucking shit’, and my view on USA has not been the same since.\nThe fact Trump still got 70+ million votes after mandating/ordering this policy is insane.",
">\n\nTrump voters tend to be low information. If they even heard about this, they heard someone on Fox/Newsmax/twitter defending it or saying it was fantastic while distorting the truth about it.",
">\n\nI’d like to think they were ignorant, but somehow it all adds up. I can’t let it go.",
">\n\nNot enough, but it’s a start.",
">\n\nCrimes against humanity.",
">\n\nJesus Christ Trump was a disaster, we're just now returning the kids to their parents though?!? The damage we caused will never go away.",
">\n\nOver 2000 were returned during the Trump administration so these are part of the harder to find parents.",
">\n\nSomething tells me this will not be on many news stations tonight.",
">\n\nFinally. This is why I voted in 2020",
">\n\nI will be enraged until the headline reads ALL!",
">\n\nUnfortunately, that might never happen given that the Trump administration managed to lose track of a bunch of them. I wish I was making that up.",
">\n\nHow about the DOJ criminally prosecute the architects and others who had a hand in this heinous crime?",
">\n\n\nAccording to figures released by the Department of Homeland Security, 3,881 children were separated from their families from 2017 to 2021. About 74% of those have been reunited with their families: 2,176 before the task force was created and 689 afterward.\nBut that still leaves nearly 1,000 children. Of those, 148 are in the reunification process. The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children.\n\nUgh, close but not close enough to fixing this mistake.",
">\n\nRemember when the Trump administration claimed that it was impossible to reunite the families?",
">\n\nWhy do we always have to clean up after Republicans? Getting tiresome.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that because the separation policy was specifically designed to deter certain kinds of people from seeking asylum, these kidnappings qualify as a crime against humanity under international law.",
">\n\nA whole bunch of them were trafficked to the upper Midwest to work the overnight shift on meat packing plant floors. It was only uncovered when one of their middle school teachers called CPS because these kids were coming in with severe chemical burns on their hands and arms. And, yes - after working the overnight shift cleaning a meat processing plant floor, these kids were going to school all day. The youngest was 12.",
">\n\nOh no. Just appalling",
">\n\nBecause it’s the right thing to do. Well done. Still going to be a long road toward healing for those poor kids.",
">\n\nI'm still stunned nobody has gone to jail for this and that the US public did not draw the line at this. It is sickening.",
">\n\nWe don’t get credit for fixing our own fuckup",
">\n\nIt is SHAMEFUL how these people were treated.",
">\n\nThat is wonderful news. Trump and his administration were so evil and cruel. I can't imagine how anyone could be so heartless.",
">\n\nHow many of these kids were molested by Trump supporters? Not zero.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to think if Trump was still POTUS, these (and likely many more) kids would still be lost.",
">\n\nNot enough is made over the evil that Trump and Stephen Miller committed during this fiasco. \nObjectively horrific, vile men.",
">\n\nNever forget there was one boy who died in his own vomit for hours before someone checked up on him. My blood still seethes thinking about it.\nHis name was Carlos Gregorio Hernandez Vasquez, he was 16 from Guatemala.",
">\n\nI'm very happy to read this. That said, the fact that this ever happened (and I don't care who it happens under) is disgusting and needs to be completely stopped from happening again.",
">\n\nThis should be much bigger news",
">\n\nHow many years were these kids without their parents in a government camp?",
">\n\nClose to four years.",
">\n\nOh yea I forgot he did this, the absolute sicko",
">\n\nThis is real oppressive fascist shit, my dear Americans. Except those who should hear this either won't read this or don't have a problem with it...",
">\n\nThis probably puts SStephen Miller in the deepest of funks.",
">\n\nGenuinely good news and a step towards righting an intentionally monstrous act.",
">\n\nhow many more are there? how many were raped? how many died?",
">\n\nIt's good to see the nation moving closer to its founding principles.",
">\n\nIf this is true, it’s the only news I heard today that I give a single fuck about. Wow. YES. Keep going. 100% reunification.",
">\n\nThere are still missing children.",
">\n\nTrAnS pEoPlE aRe GrOoMiNg OuR cHiLdReN. No, there not, and your outrage would be more effective if it targeted the POS you voted for.",
">\n\nTrump reign of terror was so barbaric.",
">\n\nThing is. .....Republicans are probably unhappy about this.",
">\n\nThis definitely put a smile on my face! :)",
">\n\nUS reunites nearly 700 kids taken from parents under ~~Trump~~ the republicans.",
">\n\nSomehow trump will take credit for this. He'll say something like how much better he made those parents appreciate their children and the children their parents. Ugh.",
">\n\nbold of you to assume he'll pay any attention at all to them.",
">\n\nHow I fucking wish \"Kids in cages\" never became the misleading rallying cry against Trump when kidnapped children was the more accurate description of what the administration was doing that needed to be stopped immediately.\nHow many times have you seen some galaxy brain talk about how \"Oh nobody says 'kids in cages' anymore now that it's ok Biden is doing it!\" Yeah it was a stupid and inaccurate criticism to begin with, because any kind of policy of detaining people caught trying to cross the border illegally will fit the \"kids in cages\" meme. \nThe entire reason people got mad at Trump beyond the border wall nonsense was because he specifically ordered a family separation policy that was designed to function as a cruel deterrent to immigration. The Obama administration was forced to adopt a family separation policy because courts ruled that minors could not be detained with adults when detained by ICE, but the Trump administration embraced this policy and added on kidnapping and forced separation across the country which resembled human trafficking more than any kind of immigration policy.\nAnd yeah, Biden is reuniting people while still maintaining a policy of not letting anyone cross the border anywhere at any time for any reason. We can talk about the ethics of detaining people caught trying to cross a national border illegally, and we should. But its an entirely separate discussion from whether one should steal their kids and ship them across the country and throw away the records of where they went.",
">\n\nAnother horrifying legacy of the US.",
">\n\nStephen Miller needs to be permanently attached to this heartless decision.",
">\n\nThe damage has been done. It's literally the least we can do is give them their children back.. I can't even believe that sentence needed to be said. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nFinally, someone thought of the children",
">\n\nYet another crime that orange gasbag will never be punished for…",
">\n\nThis chapter of Trump's presidency was truly mask off evil from the party that professes that they are the party of morals and family values. Before this people could argue that they could be afforded the benefit of the doubt. I kind of knew that Republicans were trolls and bad faith actors but then after this I knew that they really have no bottom line with how low they are willing to go. Truly evil what they did to those desperate families and kids when it would have been the easiest thing in the world to just not.",
">\n\nThis is not the same war crime Russia is doing in the Ukraine. It's a completely different war crime.",
">\n\nIt's sad and despicable that this is even necessary.",
">\n\nThis post has about 670 comments. Imagine if every single one of them was a family reunion. Heartbreaking cruelty from the last administration.",
">\n\nThe Trimp administration did a lot terrible things and had plenty of awful, harmful policies. But this is one of those times when it crossed the line into literal evil.",
">\n\nI figured this was happening in the background but damn it's heartbreaking that it's taking this long because of how thoroughly Trump fucked up any semblance of process for the DHS\nLike don't get me wrong, anyone who works for ICE is and always has been a disgusting pig, but they used to be disgusting pigs bound by similar levels of US bureaucracy as the rest of the government",
">\n\nThis was a very good thing to do and the media isn’t talking about it.",
">\n\nThis needs to be bigger news",
">\n\nWhat the hell AP, it was the US under Trump too. Maybe a better headline might have been \"Biden admin reunites nearly 700...\"",
">\n\nOur bad, we did teach the kid to walk and talk, she mostly knows to say “put your hands through the bars” but still.",
">\n\nThis is news I've been waiting 6 years for.",
">\n\nWas Eric one of them?",
">\n\nI will look for you, I will find you and I will reunite you",
">\n\nLike the motherfucking handmaids tale or some shit",
">\n\nIt's nice for the country to be taking a step back towards its ideals.",
">\n\nWhy the fuck is this not plastered all over the news? This was an international outrage for years and now it’s a tiny news story thrown in on a Friday? Whomever is in charge of the WH Press Office should be ashamed.",
">\n\nNot sure what the White House Press Office could do here if outlets simply don't bother pushing the story.",
">\n\nI want to know how many are still separated.\nEverything else is not good enough.",
">\n\nYou will need to do a slight bit of math when reading the article to get the exact number but it as about a thousand remaining to be united.",
">\n\nI feel for these kids (and their parents). Many of them have been sexually assaulted because no one was there to protect them.",
">\n\nGee, Trump reminds me of Hitler for some reason. Does anyone else see a similarity? One redeeming factor is that we all know how Hitler ended up.",
">\n\nIt is a great labor to undo great evils. \nGlad it's being done.",
">\n\nHow many in total were separated? 700 is great, but if there are still 1,000s more this should also be an equal amount of new coverage.",
">\n\nThe exact counts are in the article if you want them.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if the articles were meant to be read.",
">\n\nIt’s a good start",
">\n\nIs trump a Russian spy?\nA global traitor",
">\n\nWhen will the real criminals be put in jail?",
">\n\nvery nice to see this happen and hopefully never happens again.",
">\n\nI pray the remaining children are with US family members. This was an impeachable criminal act by Trump",
">\n\nThis was by far the most evil thing his administration did.",
">\n\nNow seperate Trump from his family.",
">\n\nI mean, damage done. If I was fleeing my home in terror from economic disaster, and the place I ran to stole my fucking kid from me, and I didn’t get them back for three years?…. I mean… that dude is a terrorist now. What is left in his life except to punish this country?",
">\n\nLock him up",
">\n\nSome good news",
">\n\nThis is not enough.",
">\n\nI was kidnapped and separated from one of my parents for a week when I was young. To be separated for such a long time… The shit is going to haunt those kids for the rest of their lives and they will likely hate those who put them through this. I know this firsthand just based how lost I felt in my experience.",
">\n\nSome good news.",
">\n\nOh, well that's good news.",
">\n\nBut I was told in 2016 that Democrats were the same as Republicans.",
">\n\nI know the mods have that thing about being courteous to others blah blah blah, but fuck trump...",
">\n\nYes, but there are still an estimated 1,000 more that they can’t even find yet. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nThe headline shouldn't exist but half the country literally voted for this to happen. It's insane. Ashamed to be an American.",
">\n\nAfter the last child is reunited with family, Melania's \"I don't really care do you\" jacket will be displayed in the Smithsonian.",
">\n\n*Biden administration reunites 700 kids taken from parents under trump",
">\n\nOnly 49,300 to go.",
">\n\nThe Trump administration was monstrous. If there is such a thing as Karma this country has a lot to pay for…",
">\n\nI hope they use this to finally lock up Trump and his goons. This is disgusting and a stain on the US.",
">\n\nThe right thing to do.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\n/r/Orphancrushingmachine",
">\n\nWhy are the Republicans such pieces of shit? The whole fucking Republican Party needs to be done away with permanently.",
">\n\nIts still happening. Reuniting kids is great and all but if the same policies that separated them still exist it doesn't mean anything",
">\n\nbelongs in /r/upliftingnews!",
">\n\nHonestly it baffles me why people see “horrendous injustice addressed after long delay” and say “/r/upliftingnews”. There’s nothing uplifting about this story, everyone should be enraged.",
">\n\nEveryone is enraged all the time about everything and then go to Reddit or Twitter to make comments which does nothing.",
">\n\nAt least enraged people acknowledge the problem. Toxic positivity does less than that.",
">\n\nGood. Shame on the previous terroristic administration for the separations in the first place.",
">\n\nBut my dad won’t be talking about this. \nOnly that Biden keeps on sending money to Ukraine and his social security is going to run out. \nIt’s kind of funny at this point.",
">\n\nRemind him that his social security will run out, but you won’t get any because we don’t fucking tax the rich like we did before the 80s.",
">\n\nGOP, the party of family values",
">\n\nPutin the dwarf and Donnie the orange-haired orangutan had a lot in common.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nAlternative headline: US returns some of the kids they stole and lost",
">\n\nPeace of garbage: Trump. Hope same happens to his children and grand children",
">\n\nFrom the thumbnail, i was confused and worried . I thought I was about to read Jeff Bezos stole kids to work in Amazon warehouses or something. >_< don't act like it's unreasonable given the last 7 years.",
">\n\nBiden administration making a task force to reunite families, after being in the administration that bolstered the same organization that separated the kids is a joke lol\nI beg for Reddit to look at the bigger picture then just “trump bad, blue good”",
">\n\nYou're incorrectly conflating two issues. \nDeportations have to happen if we are going to protect our borders. But we can be compassionate while deporting people, like by not over-crowding facilities, providing basic sanitary needs, and keeping families together as a unit throughout the process.\nThe Trump administration issued a \"zero tolerance\" family seperation policy. It meant that children were seperated from their families as a matter of policy, with no concern for proper record keeping to reunite the families once a verdict in their case had been reached. The administration also allowed its facilities to overcrowd, and there are many reports of inadequate sanitary supplies. \nTheir point was cruelty.\nThe policy was rescinded as soon as the Biden administration took office.",
">\n\nWe must protect our borders!!! 🔴 “booooooooo”\nWe must protect our borders!!! 🔵 “yeahhh!!!!”\nYou do know the majority of illegal immigration is from airplanes right? You do realize ICE in general illegally block’s asylum seekers yeah? We must protect the borders!!! \nZero tolerance, but only detaining “threats” (literally anyone a government body can deem a threat, just look at our jail system) is good! Bc framing it that was makes it better",
">\n\nIts like you're trying to weaponize missing the point",
">\n\nHopefully they were reunited back in their country of origin.",
">\n\nWhy?\nWhat's wrong with people coming to this country and becoming Americans?",
">\n\nHave you seen the amount of people screaming to deport legal asylum seekers lately?\nThey're brown, and from another place. That's all it takes for conservatives to hate and fear you.",
">\n\nHow many times does it need to be said.\nMilitary Industrial Organization",
">\n\nI am a single issue voter, and this is what I voted for"
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"The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children. In 30 years from now we will be seeing documentaries about children who suffered permanent psychological damage at the hands of Trumps administration. People will be shocked to learn that the U.S. government focible took these peoples children and intentionally separated them to be cruel.",
">\n\nThe people who supported it will pretend they never knew anything about it and act shocked and disgusted.",
">\n\nThey already are claiming this did not happen or Obama did it or some other nonsense. Let me clear: Trump instituted a policy to forcibly separate children (including infants) from their legal asylum-seekng parents at the border. He did this to be cruel and scare people from coming. His minions then forgot to keep records of who the kids were.",
">\n\nI'd only argue with \"forgot.\" They intentionally didn't keep records so as to make it as difficult as possible to reunite these families. The cruelty was the point. In fact, they outright declared that they were doing this to try to dissuade people from coming to America. \"Try to seek asylum in America and we'll separate you from your kids who you'll never see again!\"",
">\n\n\"The laws are the laws\" = dead giveaway for a fascist. The law is there to serve the people. If it's not serving them, it should be changed.",
">\n\nWhat really gives away the game is politicians supporting and pushing through laws that do not have majority public support - anti-marijuana and abortion come to mind. Also the use of propaganda to try to affect levels of support for certain things.",
">\n\nA piece of legislation is almost always guaranteed to fail if it polls extremely popular with Americans on all sides. It's really sad...",
">\n\nYep, like “80% of Americans support this” and they’re uh… “oh but some discredited propaganda bullshit”. Really gives away who they are truly working for.",
">\n\nNo, they'll have their \"experts\" testify that they're correct. Then you find out the \"expert\" talking about MJ legalization is a LEO and the \"expert\" talking about abortion is a religious leader.",
">\n\nThe people who did this belong on trail for crimes against humanity at the Hague.\nActual consequences? Fuckin' crickets as usual.",
">\n\nReminder that under Bush the US granted itself permission to invade The Hague If an American citizen should ever be tried there.",
">\n\nWe should send Bush to be tried there.",
">\n\nTrump and his henchmen should be charged for these crimes. Of all of Trump's crimes, I think the concentration camps for immigrants and separating immigrants from their children were among the worst. We have to punish them or this will happen again next time they have the presidency.",
">\n\nAmerica doesn't punish Republican crimes.\n\nSource: Jan 6th",
">\n\nThe list of sources is very long.",
">\n\nIt starts at least with the Watergate. GWB never answered to war crimes or to lying to start a war. And Trump pardon the only person charged in the Valery Plane affair.",
">\n\nDidn't Nixon interfere with the peace process in Vietnam, extending the war so his opponent wouldn't get a win right before the election?",
">\n\nYep.",
">\n\nStephen Miller should be in a 6 x 9",
">\n\nAre there any cells smaller than that for that pea brained asshat?",
">\n\nThere’s a box",
">\n\nIf it fits it sits",
">\n\nThis program of separating parents from their children without documentation is going to be remembered in the same way we talk about the Syphilis Study at Tuskegee. Except that was the 1930s.\nOne of these days some of those kids are going to take their pound of flesh out of the United States either legally or violently, and they'll have right on their side.",
">\n\nnah, the fascists will have rewritten history in the US by then. Our kids will never learn about any of it unless we move.",
">\n\nPresident Ron Desantis III will remove it from the national curriculum.",
">\n\nProbably in a governor position he would still have that power",
">\n\nNever forget this was a crime against humanity. Conservatives supported it. Even your so called “moderate conservative friends”\nIf it had been your kid they wouldn’t give a fuck.\nIn 20 years people will call it a stain on our nation. But the sociopaths who enabled it are here right now.",
">\n\nThe sociopaths who enabled it are in a very good position to seize absolute control of our country, too.",
">\n\nDon’t forget that it’s the trump supporters that empowered the sociopaths.",
">\n\nIt boggles my mind how there isn't a bigger deal made of this. They stole kids from their parents. Any time it pops into my head, I'm infuriated. In a just world, Trump and his administration would be harshly punished.",
">\n\nSeriously. It is crime against HUMANITY",
">\n\nDOJ should throw kidnapping charges onto the pile of Trump crimes.",
">\n\nKidnapped. That's called kidnapping.",
">\n\nAbduction, human trafficking, genocide.\nTake your pick.",
">\n\nThis needs to be made into a drama doc, like the recent Jeffrey Dahmer series. I guarantee it would make a compelling story, and if done right, it would reach even strong trump supporters just by virtue of it's entertainment value. \nThis whole debacle was one of the cruelest things the US has done in decades, and it was done with Glee by a mentally unstable maniac and his supporters. The sooner we see it through the lens of history and regret, the better",
">\n\nWe better hurry before the republicans ban all history.",
">\n\nThis is only happening because trump never had a plan to reunite the families.\nFor those in the back. He ripped apart families with NO INTENTION OF THEM EVER BEING REUNITED.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. In order to create a situation like this, they had to have the intent to prevent the reuniting of families.",
">\n\nIt pains me to think how great this nation could be if the government didnt have to spend time and resources fixing the things republican admins did",
">\n\nIt's such an insane cycle. Conservatives fuck shit up, Dems finally get back in and spend the entire time fixing shit, conservatives run on \"look, they didn't make anything better!\", get back in to fuck shit up. Rinse and repeat.",
">\n\nExcept Dems (if they actually focus on it) are usually only able to fix 70ish% of the budgetary and humanitarian issues that were cause by the previous administration. Then when they lose reelection we slip further backwards.",
">\n\nWhat do you mean if?",
">\n\nIf they focus on repairing damage instead of squabbling with each other (which happens a lot).",
">\n\nAs a Mexican immigrant I really appreciate this",
">\n\nI just wish we had received the same support nationwide like BLM did.",
">\n\nOutraged Republicans demand to know why they were not sold to traffickers as they planned.",
">\n\nThink of all that could have been accomplished in the same time with the same effort if we didn't need them to focus on this. Every Democratic administration is hobbled by needing to undo the evils of the Republicans before them. And it doesn't go the other way because it only takes a second to wreck something, but it takes time to do things right.",
">\n\nContrarily to what the aryicle stars, they were not crossing illegaly. They came as asylum seekers, which is legal. Many (all?) of them arrived at official points of entry. These are not people who were arrested crossing the river in the middle of the night (not that it would justify taking their kids in any way).",
">\n\nOf course the Republican subs are silent on this\nFuck trump",
">\n\ngiving them all citizenship and all of their families is the least we could do for what we've done to those kids",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nThey’ll still be traumatized for the rest of their lives. Drug addiction, depression, suicides will plague these children. If there were any justice, the architects of this policy should be charged with crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nTypical go to of Christian nationalists is to steal children.",
">\n\nI guess the conservatives are ok as long it isn't their child or children.",
">\n\nI want to remind everyone here that Trump's ICE not only separated countless children from their parents, they then \"LOST\" them. Trafficked. They trafficked them. But they called them \"lost\". Then, in an absolutely astounding act of evil and affirmation of cruelty, they released the numbers to the public: 1488 lost children.\nYes. That's right. 1488, the same number literal nazis hold sacred.\nThe depth of evil and abuse and violence the right has descended to should be SO MUCH more alarming to more people. In case you think the assertion that the children were trafficked is alarmist please remember when they caught ICE transporting children without paperwork in the dead of night or keeping children in hotels without due process then sending them back to mexico with no transition process so they were essentially homeless.",
">\n\nWow. That is incredibly evil.",
">\n\nThe GOP are the Nazis come again. Time is a flat circle and most of the circle is fascism",
">\n\nNearly 75 percent is better than I expected, and they're still working. One small cause for optimism.",
">\n\nI wouldn't call it a small cause. This is pretty massive, actually following through with fixing this disgusting miscarriage of justice. I remember reading about this stuff happening and thinking that it would have to be a priority for a new administration. Glad it's being handled.",
">\n\nI remember reading this and thinking ‘holy fucking shit’, and my view on USA has not been the same since.\nThe fact Trump still got 70+ million votes after mandating/ordering this policy is insane.",
">\n\nTrump voters tend to be low information. If they even heard about this, they heard someone on Fox/Newsmax/twitter defending it or saying it was fantastic while distorting the truth about it.",
">\n\nI’d like to think they were ignorant, but somehow it all adds up. I can’t let it go.",
">\n\nNot enough, but it’s a start.",
">\n\nCrimes against humanity.",
">\n\nJesus Christ Trump was a disaster, we're just now returning the kids to their parents though?!? The damage we caused will never go away.",
">\n\nOver 2000 were returned during the Trump administration so these are part of the harder to find parents.",
">\n\nSomething tells me this will not be on many news stations tonight.",
">\n\nFinally. This is why I voted in 2020",
">\n\nI will be enraged until the headline reads ALL!",
">\n\nUnfortunately, that might never happen given that the Trump administration managed to lose track of a bunch of them. I wish I was making that up.",
">\n\nHow about the DOJ criminally prosecute the architects and others who had a hand in this heinous crime?",
">\n\n\nAccording to figures released by the Department of Homeland Security, 3,881 children were separated from their families from 2017 to 2021. About 74% of those have been reunited with their families: 2,176 before the task force was created and 689 afterward.\nBut that still leaves nearly 1,000 children. Of those, 148 are in the reunification process. The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children.\n\nUgh, close but not close enough to fixing this mistake.",
">\n\nRemember when the Trump administration claimed that it was impossible to reunite the families?",
">\n\nWhy do we always have to clean up after Republicans? Getting tiresome.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that because the separation policy was specifically designed to deter certain kinds of people from seeking asylum, these kidnappings qualify as a crime against humanity under international law.",
">\n\nA whole bunch of them were trafficked to the upper Midwest to work the overnight shift on meat packing plant floors. It was only uncovered when one of their middle school teachers called CPS because these kids were coming in with severe chemical burns on their hands and arms. And, yes - after working the overnight shift cleaning a meat processing plant floor, these kids were going to school all day. The youngest was 12.",
">\n\nOh no. Just appalling",
">\n\nBecause it’s the right thing to do. Well done. Still going to be a long road toward healing for those poor kids.",
">\n\nI'm still stunned nobody has gone to jail for this and that the US public did not draw the line at this. It is sickening.",
">\n\nWe don’t get credit for fixing our own fuckup",
">\n\nIt is SHAMEFUL how these people were treated.",
">\n\nThat is wonderful news. Trump and his administration were so evil and cruel. I can't imagine how anyone could be so heartless.",
">\n\nHow many of these kids were molested by Trump supporters? Not zero.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to think if Trump was still POTUS, these (and likely many more) kids would still be lost.",
">\n\nNot enough is made over the evil that Trump and Stephen Miller committed during this fiasco. \nObjectively horrific, vile men.",
">\n\nNever forget there was one boy who died in his own vomit for hours before someone checked up on him. My blood still seethes thinking about it.\nHis name was Carlos Gregorio Hernandez Vasquez, he was 16 from Guatemala.",
">\n\nI'm very happy to read this. That said, the fact that this ever happened (and I don't care who it happens under) is disgusting and needs to be completely stopped from happening again.",
">\n\nThis should be much bigger news",
">\n\nHow many years were these kids without their parents in a government camp?",
">\n\nClose to four years.",
">\n\nOh yea I forgot he did this, the absolute sicko",
">\n\nThis is real oppressive fascist shit, my dear Americans. Except those who should hear this either won't read this or don't have a problem with it...",
">\n\nThis probably puts SStephen Miller in the deepest of funks.",
">\n\nGenuinely good news and a step towards righting an intentionally monstrous act.",
">\n\nhow many more are there? how many were raped? how many died?",
">\n\nIt's good to see the nation moving closer to its founding principles.",
">\n\nIf this is true, it’s the only news I heard today that I give a single fuck about. Wow. YES. Keep going. 100% reunification.",
">\n\nThere are still missing children.",
">\n\nTrAnS pEoPlE aRe GrOoMiNg OuR cHiLdReN. No, there not, and your outrage would be more effective if it targeted the POS you voted for.",
">\n\nTrump reign of terror was so barbaric.",
">\n\nThing is. .....Republicans are probably unhappy about this.",
">\n\nThis definitely put a smile on my face! :)",
">\n\nUS reunites nearly 700 kids taken from parents under ~~Trump~~ the republicans.",
">\n\nSomehow trump will take credit for this. He'll say something like how much better he made those parents appreciate their children and the children their parents. Ugh.",
">\n\nbold of you to assume he'll pay any attention at all to them.",
">\n\nHow I fucking wish \"Kids in cages\" never became the misleading rallying cry against Trump when kidnapped children was the more accurate description of what the administration was doing that needed to be stopped immediately.\nHow many times have you seen some galaxy brain talk about how \"Oh nobody says 'kids in cages' anymore now that it's ok Biden is doing it!\" Yeah it was a stupid and inaccurate criticism to begin with, because any kind of policy of detaining people caught trying to cross the border illegally will fit the \"kids in cages\" meme. \nThe entire reason people got mad at Trump beyond the border wall nonsense was because he specifically ordered a family separation policy that was designed to function as a cruel deterrent to immigration. The Obama administration was forced to adopt a family separation policy because courts ruled that minors could not be detained with adults when detained by ICE, but the Trump administration embraced this policy and added on kidnapping and forced separation across the country which resembled human trafficking more than any kind of immigration policy.\nAnd yeah, Biden is reuniting people while still maintaining a policy of not letting anyone cross the border anywhere at any time for any reason. We can talk about the ethics of detaining people caught trying to cross a national border illegally, and we should. But its an entirely separate discussion from whether one should steal their kids and ship them across the country and throw away the records of where they went.",
">\n\nAnother horrifying legacy of the US.",
">\n\nStephen Miller needs to be permanently attached to this heartless decision.",
">\n\nThe damage has been done. It's literally the least we can do is give them their children back.. I can't even believe that sentence needed to be said. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nFinally, someone thought of the children",
">\n\nYet another crime that orange gasbag will never be punished for…",
">\n\nThis chapter of Trump's presidency was truly mask off evil from the party that professes that they are the party of morals and family values. Before this people could argue that they could be afforded the benefit of the doubt. I kind of knew that Republicans were trolls and bad faith actors but then after this I knew that they really have no bottom line with how low they are willing to go. Truly evil what they did to those desperate families and kids when it would have been the easiest thing in the world to just not.",
">\n\nThis is not the same war crime Russia is doing in the Ukraine. It's a completely different war crime.",
">\n\nIt's sad and despicable that this is even necessary.",
">\n\nThis post has about 670 comments. Imagine if every single one of them was a family reunion. Heartbreaking cruelty from the last administration.",
">\n\nThe Trimp administration did a lot terrible things and had plenty of awful, harmful policies. But this is one of those times when it crossed the line into literal evil.",
">\n\nI figured this was happening in the background but damn it's heartbreaking that it's taking this long because of how thoroughly Trump fucked up any semblance of process for the DHS\nLike don't get me wrong, anyone who works for ICE is and always has been a disgusting pig, but they used to be disgusting pigs bound by similar levels of US bureaucracy as the rest of the government",
">\n\nThis was a very good thing to do and the media isn’t talking about it.",
">\n\nThis needs to be bigger news",
">\n\nWhat the hell AP, it was the US under Trump too. Maybe a better headline might have been \"Biden admin reunites nearly 700...\"",
">\n\nOur bad, we did teach the kid to walk and talk, she mostly knows to say “put your hands through the bars” but still.",
">\n\nThis is news I've been waiting 6 years for.",
">\n\nWas Eric one of them?",
">\n\nI will look for you, I will find you and I will reunite you",
">\n\nLike the motherfucking handmaids tale or some shit",
">\n\nIt's nice for the country to be taking a step back towards its ideals.",
">\n\nWhy the fuck is this not plastered all over the news? This was an international outrage for years and now it’s a tiny news story thrown in on a Friday? Whomever is in charge of the WH Press Office should be ashamed.",
">\n\nNot sure what the White House Press Office could do here if outlets simply don't bother pushing the story.",
">\n\nI want to know how many are still separated.\nEverything else is not good enough.",
">\n\nYou will need to do a slight bit of math when reading the article to get the exact number but it as about a thousand remaining to be united.",
">\n\nI feel for these kids (and their parents). Many of them have been sexually assaulted because no one was there to protect them.",
">\n\nGee, Trump reminds me of Hitler for some reason. Does anyone else see a similarity? One redeeming factor is that we all know how Hitler ended up.",
">\n\nIt is a great labor to undo great evils. \nGlad it's being done.",
">\n\nHow many in total were separated? 700 is great, but if there are still 1,000s more this should also be an equal amount of new coverage.",
">\n\nThe exact counts are in the article if you want them.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if the articles were meant to be read.",
">\n\nIt’s a good start",
">\n\nIs trump a Russian spy?\nA global traitor",
">\n\nWhen will the real criminals be put in jail?",
">\n\nvery nice to see this happen and hopefully never happens again.",
">\n\nI pray the remaining children are with US family members. This was an impeachable criminal act by Trump",
">\n\nThis was by far the most evil thing his administration did.",
">\n\nNow seperate Trump from his family.",
">\n\nI mean, damage done. If I was fleeing my home in terror from economic disaster, and the place I ran to stole my fucking kid from me, and I didn’t get them back for three years?…. I mean… that dude is a terrorist now. What is left in his life except to punish this country?",
">\n\nLock him up",
">\n\nSome good news",
">\n\nThis is not enough.",
">\n\nI was kidnapped and separated from one of my parents for a week when I was young. To be separated for such a long time… The shit is going to haunt those kids for the rest of their lives and they will likely hate those who put them through this. I know this firsthand just based how lost I felt in my experience.",
">\n\nSome good news.",
">\n\nOh, well that's good news.",
">\n\nBut I was told in 2016 that Democrats were the same as Republicans.",
">\n\nI know the mods have that thing about being courteous to others blah blah blah, but fuck trump...",
">\n\nYes, but there are still an estimated 1,000 more that they can’t even find yet. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nThe headline shouldn't exist but half the country literally voted for this to happen. It's insane. Ashamed to be an American.",
">\n\nAfter the last child is reunited with family, Melania's \"I don't really care do you\" jacket will be displayed in the Smithsonian.",
">\n\n*Biden administration reunites 700 kids taken from parents under trump",
">\n\nOnly 49,300 to go.",
">\n\nThe Trump administration was monstrous. If there is such a thing as Karma this country has a lot to pay for…",
">\n\nI hope they use this to finally lock up Trump and his goons. This is disgusting and a stain on the US.",
">\n\nThe right thing to do.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\n/r/Orphancrushingmachine",
">\n\nWhy are the Republicans such pieces of shit? The whole fucking Republican Party needs to be done away with permanently.",
">\n\nIts still happening. Reuniting kids is great and all but if the same policies that separated them still exist it doesn't mean anything",
">\n\nbelongs in /r/upliftingnews!",
">\n\nHonestly it baffles me why people see “horrendous injustice addressed after long delay” and say “/r/upliftingnews”. There’s nothing uplifting about this story, everyone should be enraged.",
">\n\nEveryone is enraged all the time about everything and then go to Reddit or Twitter to make comments which does nothing.",
">\n\nAt least enraged people acknowledge the problem. Toxic positivity does less than that.",
">\n\nGood. Shame on the previous terroristic administration for the separations in the first place.",
">\n\nBut my dad won’t be talking about this. \nOnly that Biden keeps on sending money to Ukraine and his social security is going to run out. \nIt’s kind of funny at this point.",
">\n\nRemind him that his social security will run out, but you won’t get any because we don’t fucking tax the rich like we did before the 80s.",
">\n\nGOP, the party of family values",
">\n\nPutin the dwarf and Donnie the orange-haired orangutan had a lot in common.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nAlternative headline: US returns some of the kids they stole and lost",
">\n\nPeace of garbage: Trump. Hope same happens to his children and grand children",
">\n\nFrom the thumbnail, i was confused and worried . I thought I was about to read Jeff Bezos stole kids to work in Amazon warehouses or something. >_< don't act like it's unreasonable given the last 7 years.",
">\n\nBiden administration making a task force to reunite families, after being in the administration that bolstered the same organization that separated the kids is a joke lol\nI beg for Reddit to look at the bigger picture then just “trump bad, blue good”",
">\n\nYou're incorrectly conflating two issues. \nDeportations have to happen if we are going to protect our borders. But we can be compassionate while deporting people, like by not over-crowding facilities, providing basic sanitary needs, and keeping families together as a unit throughout the process.\nThe Trump administration issued a \"zero tolerance\" family seperation policy. It meant that children were seperated from their families as a matter of policy, with no concern for proper record keeping to reunite the families once a verdict in their case had been reached. The administration also allowed its facilities to overcrowd, and there are many reports of inadequate sanitary supplies. \nTheir point was cruelty.\nThe policy was rescinded as soon as the Biden administration took office.",
">\n\nWe must protect our borders!!! 🔴 “booooooooo”\nWe must protect our borders!!! 🔵 “yeahhh!!!!”\nYou do know the majority of illegal immigration is from airplanes right? You do realize ICE in general illegally block’s asylum seekers yeah? We must protect the borders!!! \nZero tolerance, but only detaining “threats” (literally anyone a government body can deem a threat, just look at our jail system) is good! Bc framing it that was makes it better",
">\n\nIts like you're trying to weaponize missing the point",
">\n\nHopefully they were reunited back in their country of origin.",
">\n\nWhy?\nWhat's wrong with people coming to this country and becoming Americans?",
">\n\nHave you seen the amount of people screaming to deport legal asylum seekers lately?\nThey're brown, and from another place. That's all it takes for conservatives to hate and fear you.",
">\n\nHow many times does it need to be said.\nMilitary Industrial Organization",
">\n\nI am a single issue voter, and this is what I voted for",
">\n\nFinally. I was starting to wonder if the Biden administration had completely forgotten about them. Let's hope that they get every child safety reunited with their families.\nAlso, we can't just stop here with immigration- we need to safely let in more refugees and asylum seekers. If we can let in ones from Ukraine, then we should be able to let in ones from Syria and other countries."
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"The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children. In 30 years from now we will be seeing documentaries about children who suffered permanent psychological damage at the hands of Trumps administration. People will be shocked to learn that the U.S. government focible took these peoples children and intentionally separated them to be cruel.",
">\n\nThe people who supported it will pretend they never knew anything about it and act shocked and disgusted.",
">\n\nThey already are claiming this did not happen or Obama did it or some other nonsense. Let me clear: Trump instituted a policy to forcibly separate children (including infants) from their legal asylum-seekng parents at the border. He did this to be cruel and scare people from coming. His minions then forgot to keep records of who the kids were.",
">\n\nI'd only argue with \"forgot.\" They intentionally didn't keep records so as to make it as difficult as possible to reunite these families. The cruelty was the point. In fact, they outright declared that they were doing this to try to dissuade people from coming to America. \"Try to seek asylum in America and we'll separate you from your kids who you'll never see again!\"",
">\n\n\"The laws are the laws\" = dead giveaway for a fascist. The law is there to serve the people. If it's not serving them, it should be changed.",
">\n\nWhat really gives away the game is politicians supporting and pushing through laws that do not have majority public support - anti-marijuana and abortion come to mind. Also the use of propaganda to try to affect levels of support for certain things.",
">\n\nA piece of legislation is almost always guaranteed to fail if it polls extremely popular with Americans on all sides. It's really sad...",
">\n\nYep, like “80% of Americans support this” and they’re uh… “oh but some discredited propaganda bullshit”. Really gives away who they are truly working for.",
">\n\nNo, they'll have their \"experts\" testify that they're correct. Then you find out the \"expert\" talking about MJ legalization is a LEO and the \"expert\" talking about abortion is a religious leader.",
">\n\nThe people who did this belong on trail for crimes against humanity at the Hague.\nActual consequences? Fuckin' crickets as usual.",
">\n\nReminder that under Bush the US granted itself permission to invade The Hague If an American citizen should ever be tried there.",
">\n\nWe should send Bush to be tried there.",
">\n\nTrump and his henchmen should be charged for these crimes. Of all of Trump's crimes, I think the concentration camps for immigrants and separating immigrants from their children were among the worst. We have to punish them or this will happen again next time they have the presidency.",
">\n\nAmerica doesn't punish Republican crimes.\n\nSource: Jan 6th",
">\n\nThe list of sources is very long.",
">\n\nIt starts at least with the Watergate. GWB never answered to war crimes or to lying to start a war. And Trump pardon the only person charged in the Valery Plane affair.",
">\n\nDidn't Nixon interfere with the peace process in Vietnam, extending the war so his opponent wouldn't get a win right before the election?",
">\n\nYep.",
">\n\nStephen Miller should be in a 6 x 9",
">\n\nAre there any cells smaller than that for that pea brained asshat?",
">\n\nThere’s a box",
">\n\nIf it fits it sits",
">\n\nThis program of separating parents from their children without documentation is going to be remembered in the same way we talk about the Syphilis Study at Tuskegee. Except that was the 1930s.\nOne of these days some of those kids are going to take their pound of flesh out of the United States either legally or violently, and they'll have right on their side.",
">\n\nnah, the fascists will have rewritten history in the US by then. Our kids will never learn about any of it unless we move.",
">\n\nPresident Ron Desantis III will remove it from the national curriculum.",
">\n\nProbably in a governor position he would still have that power",
">\n\nNever forget this was a crime against humanity. Conservatives supported it. Even your so called “moderate conservative friends”\nIf it had been your kid they wouldn’t give a fuck.\nIn 20 years people will call it a stain on our nation. But the sociopaths who enabled it are here right now.",
">\n\nThe sociopaths who enabled it are in a very good position to seize absolute control of our country, too.",
">\n\nDon’t forget that it’s the trump supporters that empowered the sociopaths.",
">\n\nIt boggles my mind how there isn't a bigger deal made of this. They stole kids from their parents. Any time it pops into my head, I'm infuriated. In a just world, Trump and his administration would be harshly punished.",
">\n\nSeriously. It is crime against HUMANITY",
">\n\nDOJ should throw kidnapping charges onto the pile of Trump crimes.",
">\n\nKidnapped. That's called kidnapping.",
">\n\nAbduction, human trafficking, genocide.\nTake your pick.",
">\n\nThis needs to be made into a drama doc, like the recent Jeffrey Dahmer series. I guarantee it would make a compelling story, and if done right, it would reach even strong trump supporters just by virtue of it's entertainment value. \nThis whole debacle was one of the cruelest things the US has done in decades, and it was done with Glee by a mentally unstable maniac and his supporters. The sooner we see it through the lens of history and regret, the better",
">\n\nWe better hurry before the republicans ban all history.",
">\n\nThis is only happening because trump never had a plan to reunite the families.\nFor those in the back. He ripped apart families with NO INTENTION OF THEM EVER BEING REUNITED.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. In order to create a situation like this, they had to have the intent to prevent the reuniting of families.",
">\n\nIt pains me to think how great this nation could be if the government didnt have to spend time and resources fixing the things republican admins did",
">\n\nIt's such an insane cycle. Conservatives fuck shit up, Dems finally get back in and spend the entire time fixing shit, conservatives run on \"look, they didn't make anything better!\", get back in to fuck shit up. Rinse and repeat.",
">\n\nExcept Dems (if they actually focus on it) are usually only able to fix 70ish% of the budgetary and humanitarian issues that were cause by the previous administration. Then when they lose reelection we slip further backwards.",
">\n\nWhat do you mean if?",
">\n\nIf they focus on repairing damage instead of squabbling with each other (which happens a lot).",
">\n\nAs a Mexican immigrant I really appreciate this",
">\n\nI just wish we had received the same support nationwide like BLM did.",
">\n\nOutraged Republicans demand to know why they were not sold to traffickers as they planned.",
">\n\nThink of all that could have been accomplished in the same time with the same effort if we didn't need them to focus on this. Every Democratic administration is hobbled by needing to undo the evils of the Republicans before them. And it doesn't go the other way because it only takes a second to wreck something, but it takes time to do things right.",
">\n\nContrarily to what the aryicle stars, they were not crossing illegaly. They came as asylum seekers, which is legal. Many (all?) of them arrived at official points of entry. These are not people who were arrested crossing the river in the middle of the night (not that it would justify taking their kids in any way).",
">\n\nOf course the Republican subs are silent on this\nFuck trump",
">\n\ngiving them all citizenship and all of their families is the least we could do for what we've done to those kids",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nThey’ll still be traumatized for the rest of their lives. Drug addiction, depression, suicides will plague these children. If there were any justice, the architects of this policy should be charged with crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nTypical go to of Christian nationalists is to steal children.",
">\n\nI guess the conservatives are ok as long it isn't their child or children.",
">\n\nI want to remind everyone here that Trump's ICE not only separated countless children from their parents, they then \"LOST\" them. Trafficked. They trafficked them. But they called them \"lost\". Then, in an absolutely astounding act of evil and affirmation of cruelty, they released the numbers to the public: 1488 lost children.\nYes. That's right. 1488, the same number literal nazis hold sacred.\nThe depth of evil and abuse and violence the right has descended to should be SO MUCH more alarming to more people. In case you think the assertion that the children were trafficked is alarmist please remember when they caught ICE transporting children without paperwork in the dead of night or keeping children in hotels without due process then sending them back to mexico with no transition process so they were essentially homeless.",
">\n\nWow. That is incredibly evil.",
">\n\nThe GOP are the Nazis come again. Time is a flat circle and most of the circle is fascism",
">\n\nNearly 75 percent is better than I expected, and they're still working. One small cause for optimism.",
">\n\nI wouldn't call it a small cause. This is pretty massive, actually following through with fixing this disgusting miscarriage of justice. I remember reading about this stuff happening and thinking that it would have to be a priority for a new administration. Glad it's being handled.",
">\n\nI remember reading this and thinking ‘holy fucking shit’, and my view on USA has not been the same since.\nThe fact Trump still got 70+ million votes after mandating/ordering this policy is insane.",
">\n\nTrump voters tend to be low information. If they even heard about this, they heard someone on Fox/Newsmax/twitter defending it or saying it was fantastic while distorting the truth about it.",
">\n\nI’d like to think they were ignorant, but somehow it all adds up. I can’t let it go.",
">\n\nNot enough, but it’s a start.",
">\n\nCrimes against humanity.",
">\n\nJesus Christ Trump was a disaster, we're just now returning the kids to their parents though?!? The damage we caused will never go away.",
">\n\nOver 2000 were returned during the Trump administration so these are part of the harder to find parents.",
">\n\nSomething tells me this will not be on many news stations tonight.",
">\n\nFinally. This is why I voted in 2020",
">\n\nI will be enraged until the headline reads ALL!",
">\n\nUnfortunately, that might never happen given that the Trump administration managed to lose track of a bunch of them. I wish I was making that up.",
">\n\nHow about the DOJ criminally prosecute the architects and others who had a hand in this heinous crime?",
">\n\n\nAccording to figures released by the Department of Homeland Security, 3,881 children were separated from their families from 2017 to 2021. About 74% of those have been reunited with their families: 2,176 before the task force was created and 689 afterward.\nBut that still leaves nearly 1,000 children. Of those, 148 are in the reunification process. The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children.\n\nUgh, close but not close enough to fixing this mistake.",
">\n\nRemember when the Trump administration claimed that it was impossible to reunite the families?",
">\n\nWhy do we always have to clean up after Republicans? Getting tiresome.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that because the separation policy was specifically designed to deter certain kinds of people from seeking asylum, these kidnappings qualify as a crime against humanity under international law.",
">\n\nA whole bunch of them were trafficked to the upper Midwest to work the overnight shift on meat packing plant floors. It was only uncovered when one of their middle school teachers called CPS because these kids were coming in with severe chemical burns on their hands and arms. And, yes - after working the overnight shift cleaning a meat processing plant floor, these kids were going to school all day. The youngest was 12.",
">\n\nOh no. Just appalling",
">\n\nBecause it’s the right thing to do. Well done. Still going to be a long road toward healing for those poor kids.",
">\n\nI'm still stunned nobody has gone to jail for this and that the US public did not draw the line at this. It is sickening.",
">\n\nWe don’t get credit for fixing our own fuckup",
">\n\nIt is SHAMEFUL how these people were treated.",
">\n\nThat is wonderful news. Trump and his administration were so evil and cruel. I can't imagine how anyone could be so heartless.",
">\n\nHow many of these kids were molested by Trump supporters? Not zero.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to think if Trump was still POTUS, these (and likely many more) kids would still be lost.",
">\n\nNot enough is made over the evil that Trump and Stephen Miller committed during this fiasco. \nObjectively horrific, vile men.",
">\n\nNever forget there was one boy who died in his own vomit for hours before someone checked up on him. My blood still seethes thinking about it.\nHis name was Carlos Gregorio Hernandez Vasquez, he was 16 from Guatemala.",
">\n\nI'm very happy to read this. That said, the fact that this ever happened (and I don't care who it happens under) is disgusting and needs to be completely stopped from happening again.",
">\n\nThis should be much bigger news",
">\n\nHow many years were these kids without their parents in a government camp?",
">\n\nClose to four years.",
">\n\nOh yea I forgot he did this, the absolute sicko",
">\n\nThis is real oppressive fascist shit, my dear Americans. Except those who should hear this either won't read this or don't have a problem with it...",
">\n\nThis probably puts SStephen Miller in the deepest of funks.",
">\n\nGenuinely good news and a step towards righting an intentionally monstrous act.",
">\n\nhow many more are there? how many were raped? how many died?",
">\n\nIt's good to see the nation moving closer to its founding principles.",
">\n\nIf this is true, it’s the only news I heard today that I give a single fuck about. Wow. YES. Keep going. 100% reunification.",
">\n\nThere are still missing children.",
">\n\nTrAnS pEoPlE aRe GrOoMiNg OuR cHiLdReN. No, there not, and your outrage would be more effective if it targeted the POS you voted for.",
">\n\nTrump reign of terror was so barbaric.",
">\n\nThing is. .....Republicans are probably unhappy about this.",
">\n\nThis definitely put a smile on my face! :)",
">\n\nUS reunites nearly 700 kids taken from parents under ~~Trump~~ the republicans.",
">\n\nSomehow trump will take credit for this. He'll say something like how much better he made those parents appreciate their children and the children their parents. Ugh.",
">\n\nbold of you to assume he'll pay any attention at all to them.",
">\n\nHow I fucking wish \"Kids in cages\" never became the misleading rallying cry against Trump when kidnapped children was the more accurate description of what the administration was doing that needed to be stopped immediately.\nHow many times have you seen some galaxy brain talk about how \"Oh nobody says 'kids in cages' anymore now that it's ok Biden is doing it!\" Yeah it was a stupid and inaccurate criticism to begin with, because any kind of policy of detaining people caught trying to cross the border illegally will fit the \"kids in cages\" meme. \nThe entire reason people got mad at Trump beyond the border wall nonsense was because he specifically ordered a family separation policy that was designed to function as a cruel deterrent to immigration. The Obama administration was forced to adopt a family separation policy because courts ruled that minors could not be detained with adults when detained by ICE, but the Trump administration embraced this policy and added on kidnapping and forced separation across the country which resembled human trafficking more than any kind of immigration policy.\nAnd yeah, Biden is reuniting people while still maintaining a policy of not letting anyone cross the border anywhere at any time for any reason. We can talk about the ethics of detaining people caught trying to cross a national border illegally, and we should. But its an entirely separate discussion from whether one should steal their kids and ship them across the country and throw away the records of where they went.",
">\n\nAnother horrifying legacy of the US.",
">\n\nStephen Miller needs to be permanently attached to this heartless decision.",
">\n\nThe damage has been done. It's literally the least we can do is give them their children back.. I can't even believe that sentence needed to be said. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nFinally, someone thought of the children",
">\n\nYet another crime that orange gasbag will never be punished for…",
">\n\nThis chapter of Trump's presidency was truly mask off evil from the party that professes that they are the party of morals and family values. Before this people could argue that they could be afforded the benefit of the doubt. I kind of knew that Republicans were trolls and bad faith actors but then after this I knew that they really have no bottom line with how low they are willing to go. Truly evil what they did to those desperate families and kids when it would have been the easiest thing in the world to just not.",
">\n\nThis is not the same war crime Russia is doing in the Ukraine. It's a completely different war crime.",
">\n\nIt's sad and despicable that this is even necessary.",
">\n\nThis post has about 670 comments. Imagine if every single one of them was a family reunion. Heartbreaking cruelty from the last administration.",
">\n\nThe Trimp administration did a lot terrible things and had plenty of awful, harmful policies. But this is one of those times when it crossed the line into literal evil.",
">\n\nI figured this was happening in the background but damn it's heartbreaking that it's taking this long because of how thoroughly Trump fucked up any semblance of process for the DHS\nLike don't get me wrong, anyone who works for ICE is and always has been a disgusting pig, but they used to be disgusting pigs bound by similar levels of US bureaucracy as the rest of the government",
">\n\nThis was a very good thing to do and the media isn’t talking about it.",
">\n\nThis needs to be bigger news",
">\n\nWhat the hell AP, it was the US under Trump too. Maybe a better headline might have been \"Biden admin reunites nearly 700...\"",
">\n\nOur bad, we did teach the kid to walk and talk, she mostly knows to say “put your hands through the bars” but still.",
">\n\nThis is news I've been waiting 6 years for.",
">\n\nWas Eric one of them?",
">\n\nI will look for you, I will find you and I will reunite you",
">\n\nLike the motherfucking handmaids tale or some shit",
">\n\nIt's nice for the country to be taking a step back towards its ideals.",
">\n\nWhy the fuck is this not plastered all over the news? This was an international outrage for years and now it’s a tiny news story thrown in on a Friday? Whomever is in charge of the WH Press Office should be ashamed.",
">\n\nNot sure what the White House Press Office could do here if outlets simply don't bother pushing the story.",
">\n\nI want to know how many are still separated.\nEverything else is not good enough.",
">\n\nYou will need to do a slight bit of math when reading the article to get the exact number but it as about a thousand remaining to be united.",
">\n\nI feel for these kids (and their parents). Many of them have been sexually assaulted because no one was there to protect them.",
">\n\nGee, Trump reminds me of Hitler for some reason. Does anyone else see a similarity? One redeeming factor is that we all know how Hitler ended up.",
">\n\nIt is a great labor to undo great evils. \nGlad it's being done.",
">\n\nHow many in total were separated? 700 is great, but if there are still 1,000s more this should also be an equal amount of new coverage.",
">\n\nThe exact counts are in the article if you want them.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if the articles were meant to be read.",
">\n\nIt’s a good start",
">\n\nIs trump a Russian spy?\nA global traitor",
">\n\nWhen will the real criminals be put in jail?",
">\n\nvery nice to see this happen and hopefully never happens again.",
">\n\nI pray the remaining children are with US family members. This was an impeachable criminal act by Trump",
">\n\nThis was by far the most evil thing his administration did.",
">\n\nNow seperate Trump from his family.",
">\n\nI mean, damage done. If I was fleeing my home in terror from economic disaster, and the place I ran to stole my fucking kid from me, and I didn’t get them back for three years?…. I mean… that dude is a terrorist now. What is left in his life except to punish this country?",
">\n\nLock him up",
">\n\nSome good news",
">\n\nThis is not enough.",
">\n\nI was kidnapped and separated from one of my parents for a week when I was young. To be separated for such a long time… The shit is going to haunt those kids for the rest of their lives and they will likely hate those who put them through this. I know this firsthand just based how lost I felt in my experience.",
">\n\nSome good news.",
">\n\nOh, well that's good news.",
">\n\nBut I was told in 2016 that Democrats were the same as Republicans.",
">\n\nI know the mods have that thing about being courteous to others blah blah blah, but fuck trump...",
">\n\nYes, but there are still an estimated 1,000 more that they can’t even find yet. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nThe headline shouldn't exist but half the country literally voted for this to happen. It's insane. Ashamed to be an American.",
">\n\nAfter the last child is reunited with family, Melania's \"I don't really care do you\" jacket will be displayed in the Smithsonian.",
">\n\n*Biden administration reunites 700 kids taken from parents under trump",
">\n\nOnly 49,300 to go.",
">\n\nThe Trump administration was monstrous. If there is such a thing as Karma this country has a lot to pay for…",
">\n\nI hope they use this to finally lock up Trump and his goons. This is disgusting and a stain on the US.",
">\n\nThe right thing to do.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\n/r/Orphancrushingmachine",
">\n\nWhy are the Republicans such pieces of shit? The whole fucking Republican Party needs to be done away with permanently.",
">\n\nIts still happening. Reuniting kids is great and all but if the same policies that separated them still exist it doesn't mean anything",
">\n\nbelongs in /r/upliftingnews!",
">\n\nHonestly it baffles me why people see “horrendous injustice addressed after long delay” and say “/r/upliftingnews”. There’s nothing uplifting about this story, everyone should be enraged.",
">\n\nEveryone is enraged all the time about everything and then go to Reddit or Twitter to make comments which does nothing.",
">\n\nAt least enraged people acknowledge the problem. Toxic positivity does less than that.",
">\n\nGood. Shame on the previous terroristic administration for the separations in the first place.",
">\n\nBut my dad won’t be talking about this. \nOnly that Biden keeps on sending money to Ukraine and his social security is going to run out. \nIt’s kind of funny at this point.",
">\n\nRemind him that his social security will run out, but you won’t get any because we don’t fucking tax the rich like we did before the 80s.",
">\n\nGOP, the party of family values",
">\n\nPutin the dwarf and Donnie the orange-haired orangutan had a lot in common.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nAlternative headline: US returns some of the kids they stole and lost",
">\n\nPeace of garbage: Trump. Hope same happens to his children and grand children",
">\n\nFrom the thumbnail, i was confused and worried . I thought I was about to read Jeff Bezos stole kids to work in Amazon warehouses or something. >_< don't act like it's unreasonable given the last 7 years.",
">\n\nBiden administration making a task force to reunite families, after being in the administration that bolstered the same organization that separated the kids is a joke lol\nI beg for Reddit to look at the bigger picture then just “trump bad, blue good”",
">\n\nYou're incorrectly conflating two issues. \nDeportations have to happen if we are going to protect our borders. But we can be compassionate while deporting people, like by not over-crowding facilities, providing basic sanitary needs, and keeping families together as a unit throughout the process.\nThe Trump administration issued a \"zero tolerance\" family seperation policy. It meant that children were seperated from their families as a matter of policy, with no concern for proper record keeping to reunite the families once a verdict in their case had been reached. The administration also allowed its facilities to overcrowd, and there are many reports of inadequate sanitary supplies. \nTheir point was cruelty.\nThe policy was rescinded as soon as the Biden administration took office.",
">\n\nWe must protect our borders!!! 🔴 “booooooooo”\nWe must protect our borders!!! 🔵 “yeahhh!!!!”\nYou do know the majority of illegal immigration is from airplanes right? You do realize ICE in general illegally block’s asylum seekers yeah? We must protect the borders!!! \nZero tolerance, but only detaining “threats” (literally anyone a government body can deem a threat, just look at our jail system) is good! Bc framing it that was makes it better",
">\n\nIts like you're trying to weaponize missing the point",
">\n\nHopefully they were reunited back in their country of origin.",
">\n\nWhy?\nWhat's wrong with people coming to this country and becoming Americans?",
">\n\nHave you seen the amount of people screaming to deport legal asylum seekers lately?\nThey're brown, and from another place. That's all it takes for conservatives to hate and fear you.",
">\n\nHow many times does it need to be said.\nMilitary Industrial Organization",
">\n\nI am a single issue voter, and this is what I voted for",
">\n\nFinally. I was starting to wonder if the Biden administration had completely forgotten about them. Let's hope that they get every child safety reunited with their families.\nAlso, we can't just stop here with immigration- we need to safely let in more refugees and asylum seekers. If we can let in ones from Ukraine, then we should be able to let in ones from Syria and other countries.",
">\n\nI thought this started in 1997?"
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"The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children. In 30 years from now we will be seeing documentaries about children who suffered permanent psychological damage at the hands of Trumps administration. People will be shocked to learn that the U.S. government focible took these peoples children and intentionally separated them to be cruel.",
">\n\nThe people who supported it will pretend they never knew anything about it and act shocked and disgusted.",
">\n\nThey already are claiming this did not happen or Obama did it or some other nonsense. Let me clear: Trump instituted a policy to forcibly separate children (including infants) from their legal asylum-seekng parents at the border. He did this to be cruel and scare people from coming. His minions then forgot to keep records of who the kids were.",
">\n\nI'd only argue with \"forgot.\" They intentionally didn't keep records so as to make it as difficult as possible to reunite these families. The cruelty was the point. In fact, they outright declared that they were doing this to try to dissuade people from coming to America. \"Try to seek asylum in America and we'll separate you from your kids who you'll never see again!\"",
">\n\n\"The laws are the laws\" = dead giveaway for a fascist. The law is there to serve the people. If it's not serving them, it should be changed.",
">\n\nWhat really gives away the game is politicians supporting and pushing through laws that do not have majority public support - anti-marijuana and abortion come to mind. Also the use of propaganda to try to affect levels of support for certain things.",
">\n\nA piece of legislation is almost always guaranteed to fail if it polls extremely popular with Americans on all sides. It's really sad...",
">\n\nYep, like “80% of Americans support this” and they’re uh… “oh but some discredited propaganda bullshit”. Really gives away who they are truly working for.",
">\n\nNo, they'll have their \"experts\" testify that they're correct. Then you find out the \"expert\" talking about MJ legalization is a LEO and the \"expert\" talking about abortion is a religious leader.",
">\n\nThe people who did this belong on trail for crimes against humanity at the Hague.\nActual consequences? Fuckin' crickets as usual.",
">\n\nReminder that under Bush the US granted itself permission to invade The Hague If an American citizen should ever be tried there.",
">\n\nWe should send Bush to be tried there.",
">\n\nTrump and his henchmen should be charged for these crimes. Of all of Trump's crimes, I think the concentration camps for immigrants and separating immigrants from their children were among the worst. We have to punish them or this will happen again next time they have the presidency.",
">\n\nAmerica doesn't punish Republican crimes.\n\nSource: Jan 6th",
">\n\nThe list of sources is very long.",
">\n\nIt starts at least with the Watergate. GWB never answered to war crimes or to lying to start a war. And Trump pardon the only person charged in the Valery Plane affair.",
">\n\nDidn't Nixon interfere with the peace process in Vietnam, extending the war so his opponent wouldn't get a win right before the election?",
">\n\nYep.",
">\n\nStephen Miller should be in a 6 x 9",
">\n\nAre there any cells smaller than that for that pea brained asshat?",
">\n\nThere’s a box",
">\n\nIf it fits it sits",
">\n\nThis program of separating parents from their children without documentation is going to be remembered in the same way we talk about the Syphilis Study at Tuskegee. Except that was the 1930s.\nOne of these days some of those kids are going to take their pound of flesh out of the United States either legally or violently, and they'll have right on their side.",
">\n\nnah, the fascists will have rewritten history in the US by then. Our kids will never learn about any of it unless we move.",
">\n\nPresident Ron Desantis III will remove it from the national curriculum.",
">\n\nProbably in a governor position he would still have that power",
">\n\nNever forget this was a crime against humanity. Conservatives supported it. Even your so called “moderate conservative friends”\nIf it had been your kid they wouldn’t give a fuck.\nIn 20 years people will call it a stain on our nation. But the sociopaths who enabled it are here right now.",
">\n\nThe sociopaths who enabled it are in a very good position to seize absolute control of our country, too.",
">\n\nDon’t forget that it’s the trump supporters that empowered the sociopaths.",
">\n\nIt boggles my mind how there isn't a bigger deal made of this. They stole kids from their parents. Any time it pops into my head, I'm infuriated. In a just world, Trump and his administration would be harshly punished.",
">\n\nSeriously. It is crime against HUMANITY",
">\n\nDOJ should throw kidnapping charges onto the pile of Trump crimes.",
">\n\nKidnapped. That's called kidnapping.",
">\n\nAbduction, human trafficking, genocide.\nTake your pick.",
">\n\nThis needs to be made into a drama doc, like the recent Jeffrey Dahmer series. I guarantee it would make a compelling story, and if done right, it would reach even strong trump supporters just by virtue of it's entertainment value. \nThis whole debacle was one of the cruelest things the US has done in decades, and it was done with Glee by a mentally unstable maniac and his supporters. The sooner we see it through the lens of history and regret, the better",
">\n\nWe better hurry before the republicans ban all history.",
">\n\nThis is only happening because trump never had a plan to reunite the families.\nFor those in the back. He ripped apart families with NO INTENTION OF THEM EVER BEING REUNITED.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. In order to create a situation like this, they had to have the intent to prevent the reuniting of families.",
">\n\nIt pains me to think how great this nation could be if the government didnt have to spend time and resources fixing the things republican admins did",
">\n\nIt's such an insane cycle. Conservatives fuck shit up, Dems finally get back in and spend the entire time fixing shit, conservatives run on \"look, they didn't make anything better!\", get back in to fuck shit up. Rinse and repeat.",
">\n\nExcept Dems (if they actually focus on it) are usually only able to fix 70ish% of the budgetary and humanitarian issues that were cause by the previous administration. Then when they lose reelection we slip further backwards.",
">\n\nWhat do you mean if?",
">\n\nIf they focus on repairing damage instead of squabbling with each other (which happens a lot).",
">\n\nAs a Mexican immigrant I really appreciate this",
">\n\nI just wish we had received the same support nationwide like BLM did.",
">\n\nOutraged Republicans demand to know why they were not sold to traffickers as they planned.",
">\n\nThink of all that could have been accomplished in the same time with the same effort if we didn't need them to focus on this. Every Democratic administration is hobbled by needing to undo the evils of the Republicans before them. And it doesn't go the other way because it only takes a second to wreck something, but it takes time to do things right.",
">\n\nContrarily to what the aryicle stars, they were not crossing illegaly. They came as asylum seekers, which is legal. Many (all?) of them arrived at official points of entry. These are not people who were arrested crossing the river in the middle of the night (not that it would justify taking their kids in any way).",
">\n\nOf course the Republican subs are silent on this\nFuck trump",
">\n\ngiving them all citizenship and all of their families is the least we could do for what we've done to those kids",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nThey’ll still be traumatized for the rest of their lives. Drug addiction, depression, suicides will plague these children. If there were any justice, the architects of this policy should be charged with crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nTypical go to of Christian nationalists is to steal children.",
">\n\nI guess the conservatives are ok as long it isn't their child or children.",
">\n\nI want to remind everyone here that Trump's ICE not only separated countless children from their parents, they then \"LOST\" them. Trafficked. They trafficked them. But they called them \"lost\". Then, in an absolutely astounding act of evil and affirmation of cruelty, they released the numbers to the public: 1488 lost children.\nYes. That's right. 1488, the same number literal nazis hold sacred.\nThe depth of evil and abuse and violence the right has descended to should be SO MUCH more alarming to more people. In case you think the assertion that the children were trafficked is alarmist please remember when they caught ICE transporting children without paperwork in the dead of night or keeping children in hotels without due process then sending them back to mexico with no transition process so they were essentially homeless.",
">\n\nWow. That is incredibly evil.",
">\n\nThe GOP are the Nazis come again. Time is a flat circle and most of the circle is fascism",
">\n\nNearly 75 percent is better than I expected, and they're still working. One small cause for optimism.",
">\n\nI wouldn't call it a small cause. This is pretty massive, actually following through with fixing this disgusting miscarriage of justice. I remember reading about this stuff happening and thinking that it would have to be a priority for a new administration. Glad it's being handled.",
">\n\nI remember reading this and thinking ‘holy fucking shit’, and my view on USA has not been the same since.\nThe fact Trump still got 70+ million votes after mandating/ordering this policy is insane.",
">\n\nTrump voters tend to be low information. If they even heard about this, they heard someone on Fox/Newsmax/twitter defending it or saying it was fantastic while distorting the truth about it.",
">\n\nI’d like to think they were ignorant, but somehow it all adds up. I can’t let it go.",
">\n\nNot enough, but it’s a start.",
">\n\nCrimes against humanity.",
">\n\nJesus Christ Trump was a disaster, we're just now returning the kids to their parents though?!? The damage we caused will never go away.",
">\n\nOver 2000 were returned during the Trump administration so these are part of the harder to find parents.",
">\n\nSomething tells me this will not be on many news stations tonight.",
">\n\nFinally. This is why I voted in 2020",
">\n\nI will be enraged until the headline reads ALL!",
">\n\nUnfortunately, that might never happen given that the Trump administration managed to lose track of a bunch of them. I wish I was making that up.",
">\n\nHow about the DOJ criminally prosecute the architects and others who had a hand in this heinous crime?",
">\n\n\nAccording to figures released by the Department of Homeland Security, 3,881 children were separated from their families from 2017 to 2021. About 74% of those have been reunited with their families: 2,176 before the task force was created and 689 afterward.\nBut that still leaves nearly 1,000 children. Of those, 148 are in the reunification process. The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children.\n\nUgh, close but not close enough to fixing this mistake.",
">\n\nRemember when the Trump administration claimed that it was impossible to reunite the families?",
">\n\nWhy do we always have to clean up after Republicans? Getting tiresome.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that because the separation policy was specifically designed to deter certain kinds of people from seeking asylum, these kidnappings qualify as a crime against humanity under international law.",
">\n\nA whole bunch of them were trafficked to the upper Midwest to work the overnight shift on meat packing plant floors. It was only uncovered when one of their middle school teachers called CPS because these kids were coming in with severe chemical burns on their hands and arms. And, yes - after working the overnight shift cleaning a meat processing plant floor, these kids were going to school all day. The youngest was 12.",
">\n\nOh no. Just appalling",
">\n\nBecause it’s the right thing to do. Well done. Still going to be a long road toward healing for those poor kids.",
">\n\nI'm still stunned nobody has gone to jail for this and that the US public did not draw the line at this. It is sickening.",
">\n\nWe don’t get credit for fixing our own fuckup",
">\n\nIt is SHAMEFUL how these people were treated.",
">\n\nThat is wonderful news. Trump and his administration were so evil and cruel. I can't imagine how anyone could be so heartless.",
">\n\nHow many of these kids were molested by Trump supporters? Not zero.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to think if Trump was still POTUS, these (and likely many more) kids would still be lost.",
">\n\nNot enough is made over the evil that Trump and Stephen Miller committed during this fiasco. \nObjectively horrific, vile men.",
">\n\nNever forget there was one boy who died in his own vomit for hours before someone checked up on him. My blood still seethes thinking about it.\nHis name was Carlos Gregorio Hernandez Vasquez, he was 16 from Guatemala.",
">\n\nI'm very happy to read this. That said, the fact that this ever happened (and I don't care who it happens under) is disgusting and needs to be completely stopped from happening again.",
">\n\nThis should be much bigger news",
">\n\nHow many years were these kids without their parents in a government camp?",
">\n\nClose to four years.",
">\n\nOh yea I forgot he did this, the absolute sicko",
">\n\nThis is real oppressive fascist shit, my dear Americans. Except those who should hear this either won't read this or don't have a problem with it...",
">\n\nThis probably puts SStephen Miller in the deepest of funks.",
">\n\nGenuinely good news and a step towards righting an intentionally monstrous act.",
">\n\nhow many more are there? how many were raped? how many died?",
">\n\nIt's good to see the nation moving closer to its founding principles.",
">\n\nIf this is true, it’s the only news I heard today that I give a single fuck about. Wow. YES. Keep going. 100% reunification.",
">\n\nThere are still missing children.",
">\n\nTrAnS pEoPlE aRe GrOoMiNg OuR cHiLdReN. No, there not, and your outrage would be more effective if it targeted the POS you voted for.",
">\n\nTrump reign of terror was so barbaric.",
">\n\nThing is. .....Republicans are probably unhappy about this.",
">\n\nThis definitely put a smile on my face! :)",
">\n\nUS reunites nearly 700 kids taken from parents under ~~Trump~~ the republicans.",
">\n\nSomehow trump will take credit for this. He'll say something like how much better he made those parents appreciate their children and the children their parents. Ugh.",
">\n\nbold of you to assume he'll pay any attention at all to them.",
">\n\nHow I fucking wish \"Kids in cages\" never became the misleading rallying cry against Trump when kidnapped children was the more accurate description of what the administration was doing that needed to be stopped immediately.\nHow many times have you seen some galaxy brain talk about how \"Oh nobody says 'kids in cages' anymore now that it's ok Biden is doing it!\" Yeah it was a stupid and inaccurate criticism to begin with, because any kind of policy of detaining people caught trying to cross the border illegally will fit the \"kids in cages\" meme. \nThe entire reason people got mad at Trump beyond the border wall nonsense was because he specifically ordered a family separation policy that was designed to function as a cruel deterrent to immigration. The Obama administration was forced to adopt a family separation policy because courts ruled that minors could not be detained with adults when detained by ICE, but the Trump administration embraced this policy and added on kidnapping and forced separation across the country which resembled human trafficking more than any kind of immigration policy.\nAnd yeah, Biden is reuniting people while still maintaining a policy of not letting anyone cross the border anywhere at any time for any reason. We can talk about the ethics of detaining people caught trying to cross a national border illegally, and we should. But its an entirely separate discussion from whether one should steal their kids and ship them across the country and throw away the records of where they went.",
">\n\nAnother horrifying legacy of the US.",
">\n\nStephen Miller needs to be permanently attached to this heartless decision.",
">\n\nThe damage has been done. It's literally the least we can do is give them their children back.. I can't even believe that sentence needed to be said. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nFinally, someone thought of the children",
">\n\nYet another crime that orange gasbag will never be punished for…",
">\n\nThis chapter of Trump's presidency was truly mask off evil from the party that professes that they are the party of morals and family values. Before this people could argue that they could be afforded the benefit of the doubt. I kind of knew that Republicans were trolls and bad faith actors but then after this I knew that they really have no bottom line with how low they are willing to go. Truly evil what they did to those desperate families and kids when it would have been the easiest thing in the world to just not.",
">\n\nThis is not the same war crime Russia is doing in the Ukraine. It's a completely different war crime.",
">\n\nIt's sad and despicable that this is even necessary.",
">\n\nThis post has about 670 comments. Imagine if every single one of them was a family reunion. Heartbreaking cruelty from the last administration.",
">\n\nThe Trimp administration did a lot terrible things and had plenty of awful, harmful policies. But this is one of those times when it crossed the line into literal evil.",
">\n\nI figured this was happening in the background but damn it's heartbreaking that it's taking this long because of how thoroughly Trump fucked up any semblance of process for the DHS\nLike don't get me wrong, anyone who works for ICE is and always has been a disgusting pig, but they used to be disgusting pigs bound by similar levels of US bureaucracy as the rest of the government",
">\n\nThis was a very good thing to do and the media isn’t talking about it.",
">\n\nThis needs to be bigger news",
">\n\nWhat the hell AP, it was the US under Trump too. Maybe a better headline might have been \"Biden admin reunites nearly 700...\"",
">\n\nOur bad, we did teach the kid to walk and talk, she mostly knows to say “put your hands through the bars” but still.",
">\n\nThis is news I've been waiting 6 years for.",
">\n\nWas Eric one of them?",
">\n\nI will look for you, I will find you and I will reunite you",
">\n\nLike the motherfucking handmaids tale or some shit",
">\n\nIt's nice for the country to be taking a step back towards its ideals.",
">\n\nWhy the fuck is this not plastered all over the news? This was an international outrage for years and now it’s a tiny news story thrown in on a Friday? Whomever is in charge of the WH Press Office should be ashamed.",
">\n\nNot sure what the White House Press Office could do here if outlets simply don't bother pushing the story.",
">\n\nI want to know how many are still separated.\nEverything else is not good enough.",
">\n\nYou will need to do a slight bit of math when reading the article to get the exact number but it as about a thousand remaining to be united.",
">\n\nI feel for these kids (and their parents). Many of them have been sexually assaulted because no one was there to protect them.",
">\n\nGee, Trump reminds me of Hitler for some reason. Does anyone else see a similarity? One redeeming factor is that we all know how Hitler ended up.",
">\n\nIt is a great labor to undo great evils. \nGlad it's being done.",
">\n\nHow many in total were separated? 700 is great, but if there are still 1,000s more this should also be an equal amount of new coverage.",
">\n\nThe exact counts are in the article if you want them.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if the articles were meant to be read.",
">\n\nIt’s a good start",
">\n\nIs trump a Russian spy?\nA global traitor",
">\n\nWhen will the real criminals be put in jail?",
">\n\nvery nice to see this happen and hopefully never happens again.",
">\n\nI pray the remaining children are with US family members. This was an impeachable criminal act by Trump",
">\n\nThis was by far the most evil thing his administration did.",
">\n\nNow seperate Trump from his family.",
">\n\nI mean, damage done. If I was fleeing my home in terror from economic disaster, and the place I ran to stole my fucking kid from me, and I didn’t get them back for three years?…. I mean… that dude is a terrorist now. What is left in his life except to punish this country?",
">\n\nLock him up",
">\n\nSome good news",
">\n\nThis is not enough.",
">\n\nI was kidnapped and separated from one of my parents for a week when I was young. To be separated for such a long time… The shit is going to haunt those kids for the rest of their lives and they will likely hate those who put them through this. I know this firsthand just based how lost I felt in my experience.",
">\n\nSome good news.",
">\n\nOh, well that's good news.",
">\n\nBut I was told in 2016 that Democrats were the same as Republicans.",
">\n\nI know the mods have that thing about being courteous to others blah blah blah, but fuck trump...",
">\n\nYes, but there are still an estimated 1,000 more that they can’t even find yet. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nThe headline shouldn't exist but half the country literally voted for this to happen. It's insane. Ashamed to be an American.",
">\n\nAfter the last child is reunited with family, Melania's \"I don't really care do you\" jacket will be displayed in the Smithsonian.",
">\n\n*Biden administration reunites 700 kids taken from parents under trump",
">\n\nOnly 49,300 to go.",
">\n\nThe Trump administration was monstrous. If there is such a thing as Karma this country has a lot to pay for…",
">\n\nI hope they use this to finally lock up Trump and his goons. This is disgusting and a stain on the US.",
">\n\nThe right thing to do.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\n/r/Orphancrushingmachine",
">\n\nWhy are the Republicans such pieces of shit? The whole fucking Republican Party needs to be done away with permanently.",
">\n\nIts still happening. Reuniting kids is great and all but if the same policies that separated them still exist it doesn't mean anything",
">\n\nbelongs in /r/upliftingnews!",
">\n\nHonestly it baffles me why people see “horrendous injustice addressed after long delay” and say “/r/upliftingnews”. There’s nothing uplifting about this story, everyone should be enraged.",
">\n\nEveryone is enraged all the time about everything and then go to Reddit or Twitter to make comments which does nothing.",
">\n\nAt least enraged people acknowledge the problem. Toxic positivity does less than that.",
">\n\nGood. Shame on the previous terroristic administration for the separations in the first place.",
">\n\nBut my dad won’t be talking about this. \nOnly that Biden keeps on sending money to Ukraine and his social security is going to run out. \nIt’s kind of funny at this point.",
">\n\nRemind him that his social security will run out, but you won’t get any because we don’t fucking tax the rich like we did before the 80s.",
">\n\nGOP, the party of family values",
">\n\nPutin the dwarf and Donnie the orange-haired orangutan had a lot in common.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nAlternative headline: US returns some of the kids they stole and lost",
">\n\nPeace of garbage: Trump. Hope same happens to his children and grand children",
">\n\nFrom the thumbnail, i was confused and worried . I thought I was about to read Jeff Bezos stole kids to work in Amazon warehouses or something. >_< don't act like it's unreasonable given the last 7 years.",
">\n\nBiden administration making a task force to reunite families, after being in the administration that bolstered the same organization that separated the kids is a joke lol\nI beg for Reddit to look at the bigger picture then just “trump bad, blue good”",
">\n\nYou're incorrectly conflating two issues. \nDeportations have to happen if we are going to protect our borders. But we can be compassionate while deporting people, like by not over-crowding facilities, providing basic sanitary needs, and keeping families together as a unit throughout the process.\nThe Trump administration issued a \"zero tolerance\" family seperation policy. It meant that children were seperated from their families as a matter of policy, with no concern for proper record keeping to reunite the families once a verdict in their case had been reached. The administration also allowed its facilities to overcrowd, and there are many reports of inadequate sanitary supplies. \nTheir point was cruelty.\nThe policy was rescinded as soon as the Biden administration took office.",
">\n\nWe must protect our borders!!! 🔴 “booooooooo”\nWe must protect our borders!!! 🔵 “yeahhh!!!!”\nYou do know the majority of illegal immigration is from airplanes right? You do realize ICE in general illegally block’s asylum seekers yeah? We must protect the borders!!! \nZero tolerance, but only detaining “threats” (literally anyone a government body can deem a threat, just look at our jail system) is good! Bc framing it that was makes it better",
">\n\nIts like you're trying to weaponize missing the point",
">\n\nHopefully they were reunited back in their country of origin.",
">\n\nWhy?\nWhat's wrong with people coming to this country and becoming Americans?",
">\n\nHave you seen the amount of people screaming to deport legal asylum seekers lately?\nThey're brown, and from another place. That's all it takes for conservatives to hate and fear you.",
">\n\nHow many times does it need to be said.\nMilitary Industrial Organization",
">\n\nI am a single issue voter, and this is what I voted for",
">\n\nFinally. I was starting to wonder if the Biden administration had completely forgotten about them. Let's hope that they get every child safety reunited with their families.\nAlso, we can't just stop here with immigration- we need to safely let in more refugees and asylum seekers. If we can let in ones from Ukraine, then we should be able to let in ones from Syria and other countries.",
">\n\nI thought this started in 1997?",
">\n\nThis is to indicate that Trump is such a large ass that 700 children's parents were stuck under him."
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"The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children. In 30 years from now we will be seeing documentaries about children who suffered permanent psychological damage at the hands of Trumps administration. People will be shocked to learn that the U.S. government focible took these peoples children and intentionally separated them to be cruel.",
">\n\nThe people who supported it will pretend they never knew anything about it and act shocked and disgusted.",
">\n\nThey already are claiming this did not happen or Obama did it or some other nonsense. Let me clear: Trump instituted a policy to forcibly separate children (including infants) from their legal asylum-seekng parents at the border. He did this to be cruel and scare people from coming. His minions then forgot to keep records of who the kids were.",
">\n\nI'd only argue with \"forgot.\" They intentionally didn't keep records so as to make it as difficult as possible to reunite these families. The cruelty was the point. In fact, they outright declared that they were doing this to try to dissuade people from coming to America. \"Try to seek asylum in America and we'll separate you from your kids who you'll never see again!\"",
">\n\n\"The laws are the laws\" = dead giveaway for a fascist. The law is there to serve the people. If it's not serving them, it should be changed.",
">\n\nWhat really gives away the game is politicians supporting and pushing through laws that do not have majority public support - anti-marijuana and abortion come to mind. Also the use of propaganda to try to affect levels of support for certain things.",
">\n\nA piece of legislation is almost always guaranteed to fail if it polls extremely popular with Americans on all sides. It's really sad...",
">\n\nYep, like “80% of Americans support this” and they’re uh… “oh but some discredited propaganda bullshit”. Really gives away who they are truly working for.",
">\n\nNo, they'll have their \"experts\" testify that they're correct. Then you find out the \"expert\" talking about MJ legalization is a LEO and the \"expert\" talking about abortion is a religious leader.",
">\n\nThe people who did this belong on trail for crimes against humanity at the Hague.\nActual consequences? Fuckin' crickets as usual.",
">\n\nReminder that under Bush the US granted itself permission to invade The Hague If an American citizen should ever be tried there.",
">\n\nWe should send Bush to be tried there.",
">\n\nTrump and his henchmen should be charged for these crimes. Of all of Trump's crimes, I think the concentration camps for immigrants and separating immigrants from their children were among the worst. We have to punish them or this will happen again next time they have the presidency.",
">\n\nAmerica doesn't punish Republican crimes.\n\nSource: Jan 6th",
">\n\nThe list of sources is very long.",
">\n\nIt starts at least with the Watergate. GWB never answered to war crimes or to lying to start a war. And Trump pardon the only person charged in the Valery Plane affair.",
">\n\nDidn't Nixon interfere with the peace process in Vietnam, extending the war so his opponent wouldn't get a win right before the election?",
">\n\nYep.",
">\n\nStephen Miller should be in a 6 x 9",
">\n\nAre there any cells smaller than that for that pea brained asshat?",
">\n\nThere’s a box",
">\n\nIf it fits it sits",
">\n\nThis program of separating parents from their children without documentation is going to be remembered in the same way we talk about the Syphilis Study at Tuskegee. Except that was the 1930s.\nOne of these days some of those kids are going to take their pound of flesh out of the United States either legally or violently, and they'll have right on their side.",
">\n\nnah, the fascists will have rewritten history in the US by then. Our kids will never learn about any of it unless we move.",
">\n\nPresident Ron Desantis III will remove it from the national curriculum.",
">\n\nProbably in a governor position he would still have that power",
">\n\nNever forget this was a crime against humanity. Conservatives supported it. Even your so called “moderate conservative friends”\nIf it had been your kid they wouldn’t give a fuck.\nIn 20 years people will call it a stain on our nation. But the sociopaths who enabled it are here right now.",
">\n\nThe sociopaths who enabled it are in a very good position to seize absolute control of our country, too.",
">\n\nDon’t forget that it’s the trump supporters that empowered the sociopaths.",
">\n\nIt boggles my mind how there isn't a bigger deal made of this. They stole kids from their parents. Any time it pops into my head, I'm infuriated. In a just world, Trump and his administration would be harshly punished.",
">\n\nSeriously. It is crime against HUMANITY",
">\n\nDOJ should throw kidnapping charges onto the pile of Trump crimes.",
">\n\nKidnapped. That's called kidnapping.",
">\n\nAbduction, human trafficking, genocide.\nTake your pick.",
">\n\nThis needs to be made into a drama doc, like the recent Jeffrey Dahmer series. I guarantee it would make a compelling story, and if done right, it would reach even strong trump supporters just by virtue of it's entertainment value. \nThis whole debacle was one of the cruelest things the US has done in decades, and it was done with Glee by a mentally unstable maniac and his supporters. The sooner we see it through the lens of history and regret, the better",
">\n\nWe better hurry before the republicans ban all history.",
">\n\nThis is only happening because trump never had a plan to reunite the families.\nFor those in the back. He ripped apart families with NO INTENTION OF THEM EVER BEING REUNITED.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. In order to create a situation like this, they had to have the intent to prevent the reuniting of families.",
">\n\nIt pains me to think how great this nation could be if the government didnt have to spend time and resources fixing the things republican admins did",
">\n\nIt's such an insane cycle. Conservatives fuck shit up, Dems finally get back in and spend the entire time fixing shit, conservatives run on \"look, they didn't make anything better!\", get back in to fuck shit up. Rinse and repeat.",
">\n\nExcept Dems (if they actually focus on it) are usually only able to fix 70ish% of the budgetary and humanitarian issues that were cause by the previous administration. Then when they lose reelection we slip further backwards.",
">\n\nWhat do you mean if?",
">\n\nIf they focus on repairing damage instead of squabbling with each other (which happens a lot).",
">\n\nAs a Mexican immigrant I really appreciate this",
">\n\nI just wish we had received the same support nationwide like BLM did.",
">\n\nOutraged Republicans demand to know why they were not sold to traffickers as they planned.",
">\n\nThink of all that could have been accomplished in the same time with the same effort if we didn't need them to focus on this. Every Democratic administration is hobbled by needing to undo the evils of the Republicans before them. And it doesn't go the other way because it only takes a second to wreck something, but it takes time to do things right.",
">\n\nContrarily to what the aryicle stars, they were not crossing illegaly. They came as asylum seekers, which is legal. Many (all?) of them arrived at official points of entry. These are not people who were arrested crossing the river in the middle of the night (not that it would justify taking their kids in any way).",
">\n\nOf course the Republican subs are silent on this\nFuck trump",
">\n\ngiving them all citizenship and all of their families is the least we could do for what we've done to those kids",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nThey’ll still be traumatized for the rest of their lives. Drug addiction, depression, suicides will plague these children. If there were any justice, the architects of this policy should be charged with crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nTypical go to of Christian nationalists is to steal children.",
">\n\nI guess the conservatives are ok as long it isn't their child or children.",
">\n\nI want to remind everyone here that Trump's ICE not only separated countless children from their parents, they then \"LOST\" them. Trafficked. They trafficked them. But they called them \"lost\". Then, in an absolutely astounding act of evil and affirmation of cruelty, they released the numbers to the public: 1488 lost children.\nYes. That's right. 1488, the same number literal nazis hold sacred.\nThe depth of evil and abuse and violence the right has descended to should be SO MUCH more alarming to more people. In case you think the assertion that the children were trafficked is alarmist please remember when they caught ICE transporting children without paperwork in the dead of night or keeping children in hotels without due process then sending them back to mexico with no transition process so they were essentially homeless.",
">\n\nWow. That is incredibly evil.",
">\n\nThe GOP are the Nazis come again. Time is a flat circle and most of the circle is fascism",
">\n\nNearly 75 percent is better than I expected, and they're still working. One small cause for optimism.",
">\n\nI wouldn't call it a small cause. This is pretty massive, actually following through with fixing this disgusting miscarriage of justice. I remember reading about this stuff happening and thinking that it would have to be a priority for a new administration. Glad it's being handled.",
">\n\nI remember reading this and thinking ‘holy fucking shit’, and my view on USA has not been the same since.\nThe fact Trump still got 70+ million votes after mandating/ordering this policy is insane.",
">\n\nTrump voters tend to be low information. If they even heard about this, they heard someone on Fox/Newsmax/twitter defending it or saying it was fantastic while distorting the truth about it.",
">\n\nI’d like to think they were ignorant, but somehow it all adds up. I can’t let it go.",
">\n\nNot enough, but it’s a start.",
">\n\nCrimes against humanity.",
">\n\nJesus Christ Trump was a disaster, we're just now returning the kids to their parents though?!? The damage we caused will never go away.",
">\n\nOver 2000 were returned during the Trump administration so these are part of the harder to find parents.",
">\n\nSomething tells me this will not be on many news stations tonight.",
">\n\nFinally. This is why I voted in 2020",
">\n\nI will be enraged until the headline reads ALL!",
">\n\nUnfortunately, that might never happen given that the Trump administration managed to lose track of a bunch of them. I wish I was making that up.",
">\n\nHow about the DOJ criminally prosecute the architects and others who had a hand in this heinous crime?",
">\n\n\nAccording to figures released by the Department of Homeland Security, 3,881 children were separated from their families from 2017 to 2021. About 74% of those have been reunited with their families: 2,176 before the task force was created and 689 afterward.\nBut that still leaves nearly 1,000 children. Of those, 148 are in the reunification process. The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children.\n\nUgh, close but not close enough to fixing this mistake.",
">\n\nRemember when the Trump administration claimed that it was impossible to reunite the families?",
">\n\nWhy do we always have to clean up after Republicans? Getting tiresome.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that because the separation policy was specifically designed to deter certain kinds of people from seeking asylum, these kidnappings qualify as a crime against humanity under international law.",
">\n\nA whole bunch of them were trafficked to the upper Midwest to work the overnight shift on meat packing plant floors. It was only uncovered when one of their middle school teachers called CPS because these kids were coming in with severe chemical burns on their hands and arms. And, yes - after working the overnight shift cleaning a meat processing plant floor, these kids were going to school all day. The youngest was 12.",
">\n\nOh no. Just appalling",
">\n\nBecause it’s the right thing to do. Well done. Still going to be a long road toward healing for those poor kids.",
">\n\nI'm still stunned nobody has gone to jail for this and that the US public did not draw the line at this. It is sickening.",
">\n\nWe don’t get credit for fixing our own fuckup",
">\n\nIt is SHAMEFUL how these people were treated.",
">\n\nThat is wonderful news. Trump and his administration were so evil and cruel. I can't imagine how anyone could be so heartless.",
">\n\nHow many of these kids were molested by Trump supporters? Not zero.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to think if Trump was still POTUS, these (and likely many more) kids would still be lost.",
">\n\nNot enough is made over the evil that Trump and Stephen Miller committed during this fiasco. \nObjectively horrific, vile men.",
">\n\nNever forget there was one boy who died in his own vomit for hours before someone checked up on him. My blood still seethes thinking about it.\nHis name was Carlos Gregorio Hernandez Vasquez, he was 16 from Guatemala.",
">\n\nI'm very happy to read this. That said, the fact that this ever happened (and I don't care who it happens under) is disgusting and needs to be completely stopped from happening again.",
">\n\nThis should be much bigger news",
">\n\nHow many years were these kids without their parents in a government camp?",
">\n\nClose to four years.",
">\n\nOh yea I forgot he did this, the absolute sicko",
">\n\nThis is real oppressive fascist shit, my dear Americans. Except those who should hear this either won't read this or don't have a problem with it...",
">\n\nThis probably puts SStephen Miller in the deepest of funks.",
">\n\nGenuinely good news and a step towards righting an intentionally monstrous act.",
">\n\nhow many more are there? how many were raped? how many died?",
">\n\nIt's good to see the nation moving closer to its founding principles.",
">\n\nIf this is true, it’s the only news I heard today that I give a single fuck about. Wow. YES. Keep going. 100% reunification.",
">\n\nThere are still missing children.",
">\n\nTrAnS pEoPlE aRe GrOoMiNg OuR cHiLdReN. No, there not, and your outrage would be more effective if it targeted the POS you voted for.",
">\n\nTrump reign of terror was so barbaric.",
">\n\nThing is. .....Republicans are probably unhappy about this.",
">\n\nThis definitely put a smile on my face! :)",
">\n\nUS reunites nearly 700 kids taken from parents under ~~Trump~~ the republicans.",
">\n\nSomehow trump will take credit for this. He'll say something like how much better he made those parents appreciate their children and the children their parents. Ugh.",
">\n\nbold of you to assume he'll pay any attention at all to them.",
">\n\nHow I fucking wish \"Kids in cages\" never became the misleading rallying cry against Trump when kidnapped children was the more accurate description of what the administration was doing that needed to be stopped immediately.\nHow many times have you seen some galaxy brain talk about how \"Oh nobody says 'kids in cages' anymore now that it's ok Biden is doing it!\" Yeah it was a stupid and inaccurate criticism to begin with, because any kind of policy of detaining people caught trying to cross the border illegally will fit the \"kids in cages\" meme. \nThe entire reason people got mad at Trump beyond the border wall nonsense was because he specifically ordered a family separation policy that was designed to function as a cruel deterrent to immigration. The Obama administration was forced to adopt a family separation policy because courts ruled that minors could not be detained with adults when detained by ICE, but the Trump administration embraced this policy and added on kidnapping and forced separation across the country which resembled human trafficking more than any kind of immigration policy.\nAnd yeah, Biden is reuniting people while still maintaining a policy of not letting anyone cross the border anywhere at any time for any reason. We can talk about the ethics of detaining people caught trying to cross a national border illegally, and we should. But its an entirely separate discussion from whether one should steal their kids and ship them across the country and throw away the records of where they went.",
">\n\nAnother horrifying legacy of the US.",
">\n\nStephen Miller needs to be permanently attached to this heartless decision.",
">\n\nThe damage has been done. It's literally the least we can do is give them their children back.. I can't even believe that sentence needed to be said. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nFinally, someone thought of the children",
">\n\nYet another crime that orange gasbag will never be punished for…",
">\n\nThis chapter of Trump's presidency was truly mask off evil from the party that professes that they are the party of morals and family values. Before this people could argue that they could be afforded the benefit of the doubt. I kind of knew that Republicans were trolls and bad faith actors but then after this I knew that they really have no bottom line with how low they are willing to go. Truly evil what they did to those desperate families and kids when it would have been the easiest thing in the world to just not.",
">\n\nThis is not the same war crime Russia is doing in the Ukraine. It's a completely different war crime.",
">\n\nIt's sad and despicable that this is even necessary.",
">\n\nThis post has about 670 comments. Imagine if every single one of them was a family reunion. Heartbreaking cruelty from the last administration.",
">\n\nThe Trimp administration did a lot terrible things and had plenty of awful, harmful policies. But this is one of those times when it crossed the line into literal evil.",
">\n\nI figured this was happening in the background but damn it's heartbreaking that it's taking this long because of how thoroughly Trump fucked up any semblance of process for the DHS\nLike don't get me wrong, anyone who works for ICE is and always has been a disgusting pig, but they used to be disgusting pigs bound by similar levels of US bureaucracy as the rest of the government",
">\n\nThis was a very good thing to do and the media isn’t talking about it.",
">\n\nThis needs to be bigger news",
">\n\nWhat the hell AP, it was the US under Trump too. Maybe a better headline might have been \"Biden admin reunites nearly 700...\"",
">\n\nOur bad, we did teach the kid to walk and talk, she mostly knows to say “put your hands through the bars” but still.",
">\n\nThis is news I've been waiting 6 years for.",
">\n\nWas Eric one of them?",
">\n\nI will look for you, I will find you and I will reunite you",
">\n\nLike the motherfucking handmaids tale or some shit",
">\n\nIt's nice for the country to be taking a step back towards its ideals.",
">\n\nWhy the fuck is this not plastered all over the news? This was an international outrage for years and now it’s a tiny news story thrown in on a Friday? Whomever is in charge of the WH Press Office should be ashamed.",
">\n\nNot sure what the White House Press Office could do here if outlets simply don't bother pushing the story.",
">\n\nI want to know how many are still separated.\nEverything else is not good enough.",
">\n\nYou will need to do a slight bit of math when reading the article to get the exact number but it as about a thousand remaining to be united.",
">\n\nI feel for these kids (and their parents). Many of them have been sexually assaulted because no one was there to protect them.",
">\n\nGee, Trump reminds me of Hitler for some reason. Does anyone else see a similarity? One redeeming factor is that we all know how Hitler ended up.",
">\n\nIt is a great labor to undo great evils. \nGlad it's being done.",
">\n\nHow many in total were separated? 700 is great, but if there are still 1,000s more this should also be an equal amount of new coverage.",
">\n\nThe exact counts are in the article if you want them.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if the articles were meant to be read.",
">\n\nIt’s a good start",
">\n\nIs trump a Russian spy?\nA global traitor",
">\n\nWhen will the real criminals be put in jail?",
">\n\nvery nice to see this happen and hopefully never happens again.",
">\n\nI pray the remaining children are with US family members. This was an impeachable criminal act by Trump",
">\n\nThis was by far the most evil thing his administration did.",
">\n\nNow seperate Trump from his family.",
">\n\nI mean, damage done. If I was fleeing my home in terror from economic disaster, and the place I ran to stole my fucking kid from me, and I didn’t get them back for three years?…. I mean… that dude is a terrorist now. What is left in his life except to punish this country?",
">\n\nLock him up",
">\n\nSome good news",
">\n\nThis is not enough.",
">\n\nI was kidnapped and separated from one of my parents for a week when I was young. To be separated for such a long time… The shit is going to haunt those kids for the rest of their lives and they will likely hate those who put them through this. I know this firsthand just based how lost I felt in my experience.",
">\n\nSome good news.",
">\n\nOh, well that's good news.",
">\n\nBut I was told in 2016 that Democrats were the same as Republicans.",
">\n\nI know the mods have that thing about being courteous to others blah blah blah, but fuck trump...",
">\n\nYes, but there are still an estimated 1,000 more that they can’t even find yet. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nThe headline shouldn't exist but half the country literally voted for this to happen. It's insane. Ashamed to be an American.",
">\n\nAfter the last child is reunited with family, Melania's \"I don't really care do you\" jacket will be displayed in the Smithsonian.",
">\n\n*Biden administration reunites 700 kids taken from parents under trump",
">\n\nOnly 49,300 to go.",
">\n\nThe Trump administration was monstrous. If there is such a thing as Karma this country has a lot to pay for…",
">\n\nI hope they use this to finally lock up Trump and his goons. This is disgusting and a stain on the US.",
">\n\nThe right thing to do.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\n/r/Orphancrushingmachine",
">\n\nWhy are the Republicans such pieces of shit? The whole fucking Republican Party needs to be done away with permanently.",
">\n\nIts still happening. Reuniting kids is great and all but if the same policies that separated them still exist it doesn't mean anything",
">\n\nbelongs in /r/upliftingnews!",
">\n\nHonestly it baffles me why people see “horrendous injustice addressed after long delay” and say “/r/upliftingnews”. There’s nothing uplifting about this story, everyone should be enraged.",
">\n\nEveryone is enraged all the time about everything and then go to Reddit or Twitter to make comments which does nothing.",
">\n\nAt least enraged people acknowledge the problem. Toxic positivity does less than that.",
">\n\nGood. Shame on the previous terroristic administration for the separations in the first place.",
">\n\nBut my dad won’t be talking about this. \nOnly that Biden keeps on sending money to Ukraine and his social security is going to run out. \nIt’s kind of funny at this point.",
">\n\nRemind him that his social security will run out, but you won’t get any because we don’t fucking tax the rich like we did before the 80s.",
">\n\nGOP, the party of family values",
">\n\nPutin the dwarf and Donnie the orange-haired orangutan had a lot in common.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nAlternative headline: US returns some of the kids they stole and lost",
">\n\nPeace of garbage: Trump. Hope same happens to his children and grand children",
">\n\nFrom the thumbnail, i was confused and worried . I thought I was about to read Jeff Bezos stole kids to work in Amazon warehouses or something. >_< don't act like it's unreasonable given the last 7 years.",
">\n\nBiden administration making a task force to reunite families, after being in the administration that bolstered the same organization that separated the kids is a joke lol\nI beg for Reddit to look at the bigger picture then just “trump bad, blue good”",
">\n\nYou're incorrectly conflating two issues. \nDeportations have to happen if we are going to protect our borders. But we can be compassionate while deporting people, like by not over-crowding facilities, providing basic sanitary needs, and keeping families together as a unit throughout the process.\nThe Trump administration issued a \"zero tolerance\" family seperation policy. It meant that children were seperated from their families as a matter of policy, with no concern for proper record keeping to reunite the families once a verdict in their case had been reached. The administration also allowed its facilities to overcrowd, and there are many reports of inadequate sanitary supplies. \nTheir point was cruelty.\nThe policy was rescinded as soon as the Biden administration took office.",
">\n\nWe must protect our borders!!! 🔴 “booooooooo”\nWe must protect our borders!!! 🔵 “yeahhh!!!!”\nYou do know the majority of illegal immigration is from airplanes right? You do realize ICE in general illegally block’s asylum seekers yeah? We must protect the borders!!! \nZero tolerance, but only detaining “threats” (literally anyone a government body can deem a threat, just look at our jail system) is good! Bc framing it that was makes it better",
">\n\nIts like you're trying to weaponize missing the point",
">\n\nHopefully they were reunited back in their country of origin.",
">\n\nWhy?\nWhat's wrong with people coming to this country and becoming Americans?",
">\n\nHave you seen the amount of people screaming to deport legal asylum seekers lately?\nThey're brown, and from another place. That's all it takes for conservatives to hate and fear you.",
">\n\nHow many times does it need to be said.\nMilitary Industrial Organization",
">\n\nI am a single issue voter, and this is what I voted for",
">\n\nFinally. I was starting to wonder if the Biden administration had completely forgotten about them. Let's hope that they get every child safety reunited with their families.\nAlso, we can't just stop here with immigration- we need to safely let in more refugees and asylum seekers. If we can let in ones from Ukraine, then we should be able to let in ones from Syria and other countries.",
">\n\nI thought this started in 1997?",
">\n\nThis is to indicate that Trump is such a large ass that 700 children's parents were stuck under him.",
">\n\nB(ased)iden"
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"The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children. In 30 years from now we will be seeing documentaries about children who suffered permanent psychological damage at the hands of Trumps administration. People will be shocked to learn that the U.S. government focible took these peoples children and intentionally separated them to be cruel.",
">\n\nThe people who supported it will pretend they never knew anything about it and act shocked and disgusted.",
">\n\nThey already are claiming this did not happen or Obama did it or some other nonsense. Let me clear: Trump instituted a policy to forcibly separate children (including infants) from their legal asylum-seekng parents at the border. He did this to be cruel and scare people from coming. His minions then forgot to keep records of who the kids were.",
">\n\nI'd only argue with \"forgot.\" They intentionally didn't keep records so as to make it as difficult as possible to reunite these families. The cruelty was the point. In fact, they outright declared that they were doing this to try to dissuade people from coming to America. \"Try to seek asylum in America and we'll separate you from your kids who you'll never see again!\"",
">\n\n\"The laws are the laws\" = dead giveaway for a fascist. The law is there to serve the people. If it's not serving them, it should be changed.",
">\n\nWhat really gives away the game is politicians supporting and pushing through laws that do not have majority public support - anti-marijuana and abortion come to mind. Also the use of propaganda to try to affect levels of support for certain things.",
">\n\nA piece of legislation is almost always guaranteed to fail if it polls extremely popular with Americans on all sides. It's really sad...",
">\n\nYep, like “80% of Americans support this” and they’re uh… “oh but some discredited propaganda bullshit”. Really gives away who they are truly working for.",
">\n\nNo, they'll have their \"experts\" testify that they're correct. Then you find out the \"expert\" talking about MJ legalization is a LEO and the \"expert\" talking about abortion is a religious leader.",
">\n\nThe people who did this belong on trail for crimes against humanity at the Hague.\nActual consequences? Fuckin' crickets as usual.",
">\n\nReminder that under Bush the US granted itself permission to invade The Hague If an American citizen should ever be tried there.",
">\n\nWe should send Bush to be tried there.",
">\n\nTrump and his henchmen should be charged for these crimes. Of all of Trump's crimes, I think the concentration camps for immigrants and separating immigrants from their children were among the worst. We have to punish them or this will happen again next time they have the presidency.",
">\n\nAmerica doesn't punish Republican crimes.\n\nSource: Jan 6th",
">\n\nThe list of sources is very long.",
">\n\nIt starts at least with the Watergate. GWB never answered to war crimes or to lying to start a war. And Trump pardon the only person charged in the Valery Plane affair.",
">\n\nDidn't Nixon interfere with the peace process in Vietnam, extending the war so his opponent wouldn't get a win right before the election?",
">\n\nYep.",
">\n\nStephen Miller should be in a 6 x 9",
">\n\nAre there any cells smaller than that for that pea brained asshat?",
">\n\nThere’s a box",
">\n\nIf it fits it sits",
">\n\nThis program of separating parents from their children without documentation is going to be remembered in the same way we talk about the Syphilis Study at Tuskegee. Except that was the 1930s.\nOne of these days some of those kids are going to take their pound of flesh out of the United States either legally or violently, and they'll have right on their side.",
">\n\nnah, the fascists will have rewritten history in the US by then. Our kids will never learn about any of it unless we move.",
">\n\nPresident Ron Desantis III will remove it from the national curriculum.",
">\n\nProbably in a governor position he would still have that power",
">\n\nNever forget this was a crime against humanity. Conservatives supported it. Even your so called “moderate conservative friends”\nIf it had been your kid they wouldn’t give a fuck.\nIn 20 years people will call it a stain on our nation. But the sociopaths who enabled it are here right now.",
">\n\nThe sociopaths who enabled it are in a very good position to seize absolute control of our country, too.",
">\n\nDon’t forget that it’s the trump supporters that empowered the sociopaths.",
">\n\nIt boggles my mind how there isn't a bigger deal made of this. They stole kids from their parents. Any time it pops into my head, I'm infuriated. In a just world, Trump and his administration would be harshly punished.",
">\n\nSeriously. It is crime against HUMANITY",
">\n\nDOJ should throw kidnapping charges onto the pile of Trump crimes.",
">\n\nKidnapped. That's called kidnapping.",
">\n\nAbduction, human trafficking, genocide.\nTake your pick.",
">\n\nThis needs to be made into a drama doc, like the recent Jeffrey Dahmer series. I guarantee it would make a compelling story, and if done right, it would reach even strong trump supporters just by virtue of it's entertainment value. \nThis whole debacle was one of the cruelest things the US has done in decades, and it was done with Glee by a mentally unstable maniac and his supporters. The sooner we see it through the lens of history and regret, the better",
">\n\nWe better hurry before the republicans ban all history.",
">\n\nThis is only happening because trump never had a plan to reunite the families.\nFor those in the back. He ripped apart families with NO INTENTION OF THEM EVER BEING REUNITED.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. In order to create a situation like this, they had to have the intent to prevent the reuniting of families.",
">\n\nIt pains me to think how great this nation could be if the government didnt have to spend time and resources fixing the things republican admins did",
">\n\nIt's such an insane cycle. Conservatives fuck shit up, Dems finally get back in and spend the entire time fixing shit, conservatives run on \"look, they didn't make anything better!\", get back in to fuck shit up. Rinse and repeat.",
">\n\nExcept Dems (if they actually focus on it) are usually only able to fix 70ish% of the budgetary and humanitarian issues that were cause by the previous administration. Then when they lose reelection we slip further backwards.",
">\n\nWhat do you mean if?",
">\n\nIf they focus on repairing damage instead of squabbling with each other (which happens a lot).",
">\n\nAs a Mexican immigrant I really appreciate this",
">\n\nI just wish we had received the same support nationwide like BLM did.",
">\n\nOutraged Republicans demand to know why they were not sold to traffickers as they planned.",
">\n\nThink of all that could have been accomplished in the same time with the same effort if we didn't need them to focus on this. Every Democratic administration is hobbled by needing to undo the evils of the Republicans before them. And it doesn't go the other way because it only takes a second to wreck something, but it takes time to do things right.",
">\n\nContrarily to what the aryicle stars, they were not crossing illegaly. They came as asylum seekers, which is legal. Many (all?) of them arrived at official points of entry. These are not people who were arrested crossing the river in the middle of the night (not that it would justify taking their kids in any way).",
">\n\nOf course the Republican subs are silent on this\nFuck trump",
">\n\ngiving them all citizenship and all of their families is the least we could do for what we've done to those kids",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nThey’ll still be traumatized for the rest of their lives. Drug addiction, depression, suicides will plague these children. If there were any justice, the architects of this policy should be charged with crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nTypical go to of Christian nationalists is to steal children.",
">\n\nI guess the conservatives are ok as long it isn't their child or children.",
">\n\nI want to remind everyone here that Trump's ICE not only separated countless children from their parents, they then \"LOST\" them. Trafficked. They trafficked them. But they called them \"lost\". Then, in an absolutely astounding act of evil and affirmation of cruelty, they released the numbers to the public: 1488 lost children.\nYes. That's right. 1488, the same number literal nazis hold sacred.\nThe depth of evil and abuse and violence the right has descended to should be SO MUCH more alarming to more people. In case you think the assertion that the children were trafficked is alarmist please remember when they caught ICE transporting children without paperwork in the dead of night or keeping children in hotels without due process then sending them back to mexico with no transition process so they were essentially homeless.",
">\n\nWow. That is incredibly evil.",
">\n\nThe GOP are the Nazis come again. Time is a flat circle and most of the circle is fascism",
">\n\nNearly 75 percent is better than I expected, and they're still working. One small cause for optimism.",
">\n\nI wouldn't call it a small cause. This is pretty massive, actually following through with fixing this disgusting miscarriage of justice. I remember reading about this stuff happening and thinking that it would have to be a priority for a new administration. Glad it's being handled.",
">\n\nI remember reading this and thinking ‘holy fucking shit’, and my view on USA has not been the same since.\nThe fact Trump still got 70+ million votes after mandating/ordering this policy is insane.",
">\n\nTrump voters tend to be low information. If they even heard about this, they heard someone on Fox/Newsmax/twitter defending it or saying it was fantastic while distorting the truth about it.",
">\n\nI’d like to think they were ignorant, but somehow it all adds up. I can’t let it go.",
">\n\nNot enough, but it’s a start.",
">\n\nCrimes against humanity.",
">\n\nJesus Christ Trump was a disaster, we're just now returning the kids to their parents though?!? The damage we caused will never go away.",
">\n\nOver 2000 were returned during the Trump administration so these are part of the harder to find parents.",
">\n\nSomething tells me this will not be on many news stations tonight.",
">\n\nFinally. This is why I voted in 2020",
">\n\nI will be enraged until the headline reads ALL!",
">\n\nUnfortunately, that might never happen given that the Trump administration managed to lose track of a bunch of them. I wish I was making that up.",
">\n\nHow about the DOJ criminally prosecute the architects and others who had a hand in this heinous crime?",
">\n\n\nAccording to figures released by the Department of Homeland Security, 3,881 children were separated from their families from 2017 to 2021. About 74% of those have been reunited with their families: 2,176 before the task force was created and 689 afterward.\nBut that still leaves nearly 1,000 children. Of those, 148 are in the reunification process. The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children.\n\nUgh, close but not close enough to fixing this mistake.",
">\n\nRemember when the Trump administration claimed that it was impossible to reunite the families?",
">\n\nWhy do we always have to clean up after Republicans? Getting tiresome.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that because the separation policy was specifically designed to deter certain kinds of people from seeking asylum, these kidnappings qualify as a crime against humanity under international law.",
">\n\nA whole bunch of them were trafficked to the upper Midwest to work the overnight shift on meat packing plant floors. It was only uncovered when one of their middle school teachers called CPS because these kids were coming in with severe chemical burns on their hands and arms. And, yes - after working the overnight shift cleaning a meat processing plant floor, these kids were going to school all day. The youngest was 12.",
">\n\nOh no. Just appalling",
">\n\nBecause it’s the right thing to do. Well done. Still going to be a long road toward healing for those poor kids.",
">\n\nI'm still stunned nobody has gone to jail for this and that the US public did not draw the line at this. It is sickening.",
">\n\nWe don’t get credit for fixing our own fuckup",
">\n\nIt is SHAMEFUL how these people were treated.",
">\n\nThat is wonderful news. Trump and his administration were so evil and cruel. I can't imagine how anyone could be so heartless.",
">\n\nHow many of these kids were molested by Trump supporters? Not zero.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to think if Trump was still POTUS, these (and likely many more) kids would still be lost.",
">\n\nNot enough is made over the evil that Trump and Stephen Miller committed during this fiasco. \nObjectively horrific, vile men.",
">\n\nNever forget there was one boy who died in his own vomit for hours before someone checked up on him. My blood still seethes thinking about it.\nHis name was Carlos Gregorio Hernandez Vasquez, he was 16 from Guatemala.",
">\n\nI'm very happy to read this. That said, the fact that this ever happened (and I don't care who it happens under) is disgusting and needs to be completely stopped from happening again.",
">\n\nThis should be much bigger news",
">\n\nHow many years were these kids without their parents in a government camp?",
">\n\nClose to four years.",
">\n\nOh yea I forgot he did this, the absolute sicko",
">\n\nThis is real oppressive fascist shit, my dear Americans. Except those who should hear this either won't read this or don't have a problem with it...",
">\n\nThis probably puts SStephen Miller in the deepest of funks.",
">\n\nGenuinely good news and a step towards righting an intentionally monstrous act.",
">\n\nhow many more are there? how many were raped? how many died?",
">\n\nIt's good to see the nation moving closer to its founding principles.",
">\n\nIf this is true, it’s the only news I heard today that I give a single fuck about. Wow. YES. Keep going. 100% reunification.",
">\n\nThere are still missing children.",
">\n\nTrAnS pEoPlE aRe GrOoMiNg OuR cHiLdReN. No, there not, and your outrage would be more effective if it targeted the POS you voted for.",
">\n\nTrump reign of terror was so barbaric.",
">\n\nThing is. .....Republicans are probably unhappy about this.",
">\n\nThis definitely put a smile on my face! :)",
">\n\nUS reunites nearly 700 kids taken from parents under ~~Trump~~ the republicans.",
">\n\nSomehow trump will take credit for this. He'll say something like how much better he made those parents appreciate their children and the children their parents. Ugh.",
">\n\nbold of you to assume he'll pay any attention at all to them.",
">\n\nHow I fucking wish \"Kids in cages\" never became the misleading rallying cry against Trump when kidnapped children was the more accurate description of what the administration was doing that needed to be stopped immediately.\nHow many times have you seen some galaxy brain talk about how \"Oh nobody says 'kids in cages' anymore now that it's ok Biden is doing it!\" Yeah it was a stupid and inaccurate criticism to begin with, because any kind of policy of detaining people caught trying to cross the border illegally will fit the \"kids in cages\" meme. \nThe entire reason people got mad at Trump beyond the border wall nonsense was because he specifically ordered a family separation policy that was designed to function as a cruel deterrent to immigration. The Obama administration was forced to adopt a family separation policy because courts ruled that minors could not be detained with adults when detained by ICE, but the Trump administration embraced this policy and added on kidnapping and forced separation across the country which resembled human trafficking more than any kind of immigration policy.\nAnd yeah, Biden is reuniting people while still maintaining a policy of not letting anyone cross the border anywhere at any time for any reason. We can talk about the ethics of detaining people caught trying to cross a national border illegally, and we should. But its an entirely separate discussion from whether one should steal their kids and ship them across the country and throw away the records of where they went.",
">\n\nAnother horrifying legacy of the US.",
">\n\nStephen Miller needs to be permanently attached to this heartless decision.",
">\n\nThe damage has been done. It's literally the least we can do is give them their children back.. I can't even believe that sentence needed to be said. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nFinally, someone thought of the children",
">\n\nYet another crime that orange gasbag will never be punished for…",
">\n\nThis chapter of Trump's presidency was truly mask off evil from the party that professes that they are the party of morals and family values. Before this people could argue that they could be afforded the benefit of the doubt. I kind of knew that Republicans were trolls and bad faith actors but then after this I knew that they really have no bottom line with how low they are willing to go. Truly evil what they did to those desperate families and kids when it would have been the easiest thing in the world to just not.",
">\n\nThis is not the same war crime Russia is doing in the Ukraine. It's a completely different war crime.",
">\n\nIt's sad and despicable that this is even necessary.",
">\n\nThis post has about 670 comments. Imagine if every single one of them was a family reunion. Heartbreaking cruelty from the last administration.",
">\n\nThe Trimp administration did a lot terrible things and had plenty of awful, harmful policies. But this is one of those times when it crossed the line into literal evil.",
">\n\nI figured this was happening in the background but damn it's heartbreaking that it's taking this long because of how thoroughly Trump fucked up any semblance of process for the DHS\nLike don't get me wrong, anyone who works for ICE is and always has been a disgusting pig, but they used to be disgusting pigs bound by similar levels of US bureaucracy as the rest of the government",
">\n\nThis was a very good thing to do and the media isn’t talking about it.",
">\n\nThis needs to be bigger news",
">\n\nWhat the hell AP, it was the US under Trump too. Maybe a better headline might have been \"Biden admin reunites nearly 700...\"",
">\n\nOur bad, we did teach the kid to walk and talk, she mostly knows to say “put your hands through the bars” but still.",
">\n\nThis is news I've been waiting 6 years for.",
">\n\nWas Eric one of them?",
">\n\nI will look for you, I will find you and I will reunite you",
">\n\nLike the motherfucking handmaids tale or some shit",
">\n\nIt's nice for the country to be taking a step back towards its ideals.",
">\n\nWhy the fuck is this not plastered all over the news? This was an international outrage for years and now it’s a tiny news story thrown in on a Friday? Whomever is in charge of the WH Press Office should be ashamed.",
">\n\nNot sure what the White House Press Office could do here if outlets simply don't bother pushing the story.",
">\n\nI want to know how many are still separated.\nEverything else is not good enough.",
">\n\nYou will need to do a slight bit of math when reading the article to get the exact number but it as about a thousand remaining to be united.",
">\n\nI feel for these kids (and their parents). Many of them have been sexually assaulted because no one was there to protect them.",
">\n\nGee, Trump reminds me of Hitler for some reason. Does anyone else see a similarity? One redeeming factor is that we all know how Hitler ended up.",
">\n\nIt is a great labor to undo great evils. \nGlad it's being done.",
">\n\nHow many in total were separated? 700 is great, but if there are still 1,000s more this should also be an equal amount of new coverage.",
">\n\nThe exact counts are in the article if you want them.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if the articles were meant to be read.",
">\n\nIt’s a good start",
">\n\nIs trump a Russian spy?\nA global traitor",
">\n\nWhen will the real criminals be put in jail?",
">\n\nvery nice to see this happen and hopefully never happens again.",
">\n\nI pray the remaining children are with US family members. This was an impeachable criminal act by Trump",
">\n\nThis was by far the most evil thing his administration did.",
">\n\nNow seperate Trump from his family.",
">\n\nI mean, damage done. If I was fleeing my home in terror from economic disaster, and the place I ran to stole my fucking kid from me, and I didn’t get them back for three years?…. I mean… that dude is a terrorist now. What is left in his life except to punish this country?",
">\n\nLock him up",
">\n\nSome good news",
">\n\nThis is not enough.",
">\n\nI was kidnapped and separated from one of my parents for a week when I was young. To be separated for such a long time… The shit is going to haunt those kids for the rest of their lives and they will likely hate those who put them through this. I know this firsthand just based how lost I felt in my experience.",
">\n\nSome good news.",
">\n\nOh, well that's good news.",
">\n\nBut I was told in 2016 that Democrats were the same as Republicans.",
">\n\nI know the mods have that thing about being courteous to others blah blah blah, but fuck trump...",
">\n\nYes, but there are still an estimated 1,000 more that they can’t even find yet. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nThe headline shouldn't exist but half the country literally voted for this to happen. It's insane. Ashamed to be an American.",
">\n\nAfter the last child is reunited with family, Melania's \"I don't really care do you\" jacket will be displayed in the Smithsonian.",
">\n\n*Biden administration reunites 700 kids taken from parents under trump",
">\n\nOnly 49,300 to go.",
">\n\nThe Trump administration was monstrous. If there is such a thing as Karma this country has a lot to pay for…",
">\n\nI hope they use this to finally lock up Trump and his goons. This is disgusting and a stain on the US.",
">\n\nThe right thing to do.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\n/r/Orphancrushingmachine",
">\n\nWhy are the Republicans such pieces of shit? The whole fucking Republican Party needs to be done away with permanently.",
">\n\nIts still happening. Reuniting kids is great and all but if the same policies that separated them still exist it doesn't mean anything",
">\n\nbelongs in /r/upliftingnews!",
">\n\nHonestly it baffles me why people see “horrendous injustice addressed after long delay” and say “/r/upliftingnews”. There’s nothing uplifting about this story, everyone should be enraged.",
">\n\nEveryone is enraged all the time about everything and then go to Reddit or Twitter to make comments which does nothing.",
">\n\nAt least enraged people acknowledge the problem. Toxic positivity does less than that.",
">\n\nGood. Shame on the previous terroristic administration for the separations in the first place.",
">\n\nBut my dad won’t be talking about this. \nOnly that Biden keeps on sending money to Ukraine and his social security is going to run out. \nIt’s kind of funny at this point.",
">\n\nRemind him that his social security will run out, but you won’t get any because we don’t fucking tax the rich like we did before the 80s.",
">\n\nGOP, the party of family values",
">\n\nPutin the dwarf and Donnie the orange-haired orangutan had a lot in common.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nAlternative headline: US returns some of the kids they stole and lost",
">\n\nPeace of garbage: Trump. Hope same happens to his children and grand children",
">\n\nFrom the thumbnail, i was confused and worried . I thought I was about to read Jeff Bezos stole kids to work in Amazon warehouses or something. >_< don't act like it's unreasonable given the last 7 years.",
">\n\nBiden administration making a task force to reunite families, after being in the administration that bolstered the same organization that separated the kids is a joke lol\nI beg for Reddit to look at the bigger picture then just “trump bad, blue good”",
">\n\nYou're incorrectly conflating two issues. \nDeportations have to happen if we are going to protect our borders. But we can be compassionate while deporting people, like by not over-crowding facilities, providing basic sanitary needs, and keeping families together as a unit throughout the process.\nThe Trump administration issued a \"zero tolerance\" family seperation policy. It meant that children were seperated from their families as a matter of policy, with no concern for proper record keeping to reunite the families once a verdict in their case had been reached. The administration also allowed its facilities to overcrowd, and there are many reports of inadequate sanitary supplies. \nTheir point was cruelty.\nThe policy was rescinded as soon as the Biden administration took office.",
">\n\nWe must protect our borders!!! 🔴 “booooooooo”\nWe must protect our borders!!! 🔵 “yeahhh!!!!”\nYou do know the majority of illegal immigration is from airplanes right? You do realize ICE in general illegally block’s asylum seekers yeah? We must protect the borders!!! \nZero tolerance, but only detaining “threats” (literally anyone a government body can deem a threat, just look at our jail system) is good! Bc framing it that was makes it better",
">\n\nIts like you're trying to weaponize missing the point",
">\n\nHopefully they were reunited back in their country of origin.",
">\n\nWhy?\nWhat's wrong with people coming to this country and becoming Americans?",
">\n\nHave you seen the amount of people screaming to deport legal asylum seekers lately?\nThey're brown, and from another place. That's all it takes for conservatives to hate and fear you.",
">\n\nHow many times does it need to be said.\nMilitary Industrial Organization",
">\n\nI am a single issue voter, and this is what I voted for",
">\n\nFinally. I was starting to wonder if the Biden administration had completely forgotten about them. Let's hope that they get every child safety reunited with their families.\nAlso, we can't just stop here with immigration- we need to safely let in more refugees and asylum seekers. If we can let in ones from Ukraine, then we should be able to let in ones from Syria and other countries.",
">\n\nI thought this started in 1997?",
">\n\nThis is to indicate that Trump is such a large ass that 700 children's parents were stuck under him.",
">\n\nB(ased)iden",
">\n\nCool. What about the rest of them? What about the kids who are still missing after being taken into the internment camps ICE set up?"
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"The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children. In 30 years from now we will be seeing documentaries about children who suffered permanent psychological damage at the hands of Trumps administration. People will be shocked to learn that the U.S. government focible took these peoples children and intentionally separated them to be cruel.",
">\n\nThe people who supported it will pretend they never knew anything about it and act shocked and disgusted.",
">\n\nThey already are claiming this did not happen or Obama did it or some other nonsense. Let me clear: Trump instituted a policy to forcibly separate children (including infants) from their legal asylum-seekng parents at the border. He did this to be cruel and scare people from coming. His minions then forgot to keep records of who the kids were.",
">\n\nI'd only argue with \"forgot.\" They intentionally didn't keep records so as to make it as difficult as possible to reunite these families. The cruelty was the point. In fact, they outright declared that they were doing this to try to dissuade people from coming to America. \"Try to seek asylum in America and we'll separate you from your kids who you'll never see again!\"",
">\n\n\"The laws are the laws\" = dead giveaway for a fascist. The law is there to serve the people. If it's not serving them, it should be changed.",
">\n\nWhat really gives away the game is politicians supporting and pushing through laws that do not have majority public support - anti-marijuana and abortion come to mind. Also the use of propaganda to try to affect levels of support for certain things.",
">\n\nA piece of legislation is almost always guaranteed to fail if it polls extremely popular with Americans on all sides. It's really sad...",
">\n\nYep, like “80% of Americans support this” and they’re uh… “oh but some discredited propaganda bullshit”. Really gives away who they are truly working for.",
">\n\nNo, they'll have their \"experts\" testify that they're correct. Then you find out the \"expert\" talking about MJ legalization is a LEO and the \"expert\" talking about abortion is a religious leader.",
">\n\nThe people who did this belong on trail for crimes against humanity at the Hague.\nActual consequences? Fuckin' crickets as usual.",
">\n\nReminder that under Bush the US granted itself permission to invade The Hague If an American citizen should ever be tried there.",
">\n\nWe should send Bush to be tried there.",
">\n\nTrump and his henchmen should be charged for these crimes. Of all of Trump's crimes, I think the concentration camps for immigrants and separating immigrants from their children were among the worst. We have to punish them or this will happen again next time they have the presidency.",
">\n\nAmerica doesn't punish Republican crimes.\n\nSource: Jan 6th",
">\n\nThe list of sources is very long.",
">\n\nIt starts at least with the Watergate. GWB never answered to war crimes or to lying to start a war. And Trump pardon the only person charged in the Valery Plane affair.",
">\n\nDidn't Nixon interfere with the peace process in Vietnam, extending the war so his opponent wouldn't get a win right before the election?",
">\n\nYep.",
">\n\nStephen Miller should be in a 6 x 9",
">\n\nAre there any cells smaller than that for that pea brained asshat?",
">\n\nThere’s a box",
">\n\nIf it fits it sits",
">\n\nThis program of separating parents from their children without documentation is going to be remembered in the same way we talk about the Syphilis Study at Tuskegee. Except that was the 1930s.\nOne of these days some of those kids are going to take their pound of flesh out of the United States either legally or violently, and they'll have right on their side.",
">\n\nnah, the fascists will have rewritten history in the US by then. Our kids will never learn about any of it unless we move.",
">\n\nPresident Ron Desantis III will remove it from the national curriculum.",
">\n\nProbably in a governor position he would still have that power",
">\n\nNever forget this was a crime against humanity. Conservatives supported it. Even your so called “moderate conservative friends”\nIf it had been your kid they wouldn’t give a fuck.\nIn 20 years people will call it a stain on our nation. But the sociopaths who enabled it are here right now.",
">\n\nThe sociopaths who enabled it are in a very good position to seize absolute control of our country, too.",
">\n\nDon’t forget that it’s the trump supporters that empowered the sociopaths.",
">\n\nIt boggles my mind how there isn't a bigger deal made of this. They stole kids from their parents. Any time it pops into my head, I'm infuriated. In a just world, Trump and his administration would be harshly punished.",
">\n\nSeriously. It is crime against HUMANITY",
">\n\nDOJ should throw kidnapping charges onto the pile of Trump crimes.",
">\n\nKidnapped. That's called kidnapping.",
">\n\nAbduction, human trafficking, genocide.\nTake your pick.",
">\n\nThis needs to be made into a drama doc, like the recent Jeffrey Dahmer series. I guarantee it would make a compelling story, and if done right, it would reach even strong trump supporters just by virtue of it's entertainment value. \nThis whole debacle was one of the cruelest things the US has done in decades, and it was done with Glee by a mentally unstable maniac and his supporters. The sooner we see it through the lens of history and regret, the better",
">\n\nWe better hurry before the republicans ban all history.",
">\n\nThis is only happening because trump never had a plan to reunite the families.\nFor those in the back. He ripped apart families with NO INTENTION OF THEM EVER BEING REUNITED.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. In order to create a situation like this, they had to have the intent to prevent the reuniting of families.",
">\n\nIt pains me to think how great this nation could be if the government didnt have to spend time and resources fixing the things republican admins did",
">\n\nIt's such an insane cycle. Conservatives fuck shit up, Dems finally get back in and spend the entire time fixing shit, conservatives run on \"look, they didn't make anything better!\", get back in to fuck shit up. Rinse and repeat.",
">\n\nExcept Dems (if they actually focus on it) are usually only able to fix 70ish% of the budgetary and humanitarian issues that were cause by the previous administration. Then when they lose reelection we slip further backwards.",
">\n\nWhat do you mean if?",
">\n\nIf they focus on repairing damage instead of squabbling with each other (which happens a lot).",
">\n\nAs a Mexican immigrant I really appreciate this",
">\n\nI just wish we had received the same support nationwide like BLM did.",
">\n\nOutraged Republicans demand to know why they were not sold to traffickers as they planned.",
">\n\nThink of all that could have been accomplished in the same time with the same effort if we didn't need them to focus on this. Every Democratic administration is hobbled by needing to undo the evils of the Republicans before them. And it doesn't go the other way because it only takes a second to wreck something, but it takes time to do things right.",
">\n\nContrarily to what the aryicle stars, they were not crossing illegaly. They came as asylum seekers, which is legal. Many (all?) of them arrived at official points of entry. These are not people who were arrested crossing the river in the middle of the night (not that it would justify taking their kids in any way).",
">\n\nOf course the Republican subs are silent on this\nFuck trump",
">\n\ngiving them all citizenship and all of their families is the least we could do for what we've done to those kids",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nThey’ll still be traumatized for the rest of their lives. Drug addiction, depression, suicides will plague these children. If there were any justice, the architects of this policy should be charged with crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nTypical go to of Christian nationalists is to steal children.",
">\n\nI guess the conservatives are ok as long it isn't their child or children.",
">\n\nI want to remind everyone here that Trump's ICE not only separated countless children from their parents, they then \"LOST\" them. Trafficked. They trafficked them. But they called them \"lost\". Then, in an absolutely astounding act of evil and affirmation of cruelty, they released the numbers to the public: 1488 lost children.\nYes. That's right. 1488, the same number literal nazis hold sacred.\nThe depth of evil and abuse and violence the right has descended to should be SO MUCH more alarming to more people. In case you think the assertion that the children were trafficked is alarmist please remember when they caught ICE transporting children without paperwork in the dead of night or keeping children in hotels without due process then sending them back to mexico with no transition process so they were essentially homeless.",
">\n\nWow. That is incredibly evil.",
">\n\nThe GOP are the Nazis come again. Time is a flat circle and most of the circle is fascism",
">\n\nNearly 75 percent is better than I expected, and they're still working. One small cause for optimism.",
">\n\nI wouldn't call it a small cause. This is pretty massive, actually following through with fixing this disgusting miscarriage of justice. I remember reading about this stuff happening and thinking that it would have to be a priority for a new administration. Glad it's being handled.",
">\n\nI remember reading this and thinking ‘holy fucking shit’, and my view on USA has not been the same since.\nThe fact Trump still got 70+ million votes after mandating/ordering this policy is insane.",
">\n\nTrump voters tend to be low information. If they even heard about this, they heard someone on Fox/Newsmax/twitter defending it or saying it was fantastic while distorting the truth about it.",
">\n\nI’d like to think they were ignorant, but somehow it all adds up. I can’t let it go.",
">\n\nNot enough, but it’s a start.",
">\n\nCrimes against humanity.",
">\n\nJesus Christ Trump was a disaster, we're just now returning the kids to their parents though?!? The damage we caused will never go away.",
">\n\nOver 2000 were returned during the Trump administration so these are part of the harder to find parents.",
">\n\nSomething tells me this will not be on many news stations tonight.",
">\n\nFinally. This is why I voted in 2020",
">\n\nI will be enraged until the headline reads ALL!",
">\n\nUnfortunately, that might never happen given that the Trump administration managed to lose track of a bunch of them. I wish I was making that up.",
">\n\nHow about the DOJ criminally prosecute the architects and others who had a hand in this heinous crime?",
">\n\n\nAccording to figures released by the Department of Homeland Security, 3,881 children were separated from their families from 2017 to 2021. About 74% of those have been reunited with their families: 2,176 before the task force was created and 689 afterward.\nBut that still leaves nearly 1,000 children. Of those, 148 are in the reunification process. The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children.\n\nUgh, close but not close enough to fixing this mistake.",
">\n\nRemember when the Trump administration claimed that it was impossible to reunite the families?",
">\n\nWhy do we always have to clean up after Republicans? Getting tiresome.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that because the separation policy was specifically designed to deter certain kinds of people from seeking asylum, these kidnappings qualify as a crime against humanity under international law.",
">\n\nA whole bunch of them were trafficked to the upper Midwest to work the overnight shift on meat packing plant floors. It was only uncovered when one of their middle school teachers called CPS because these kids were coming in with severe chemical burns on their hands and arms. And, yes - after working the overnight shift cleaning a meat processing plant floor, these kids were going to school all day. The youngest was 12.",
">\n\nOh no. Just appalling",
">\n\nBecause it’s the right thing to do. Well done. Still going to be a long road toward healing for those poor kids.",
">\n\nI'm still stunned nobody has gone to jail for this and that the US public did not draw the line at this. It is sickening.",
">\n\nWe don’t get credit for fixing our own fuckup",
">\n\nIt is SHAMEFUL how these people were treated.",
">\n\nThat is wonderful news. Trump and his administration were so evil and cruel. I can't imagine how anyone could be so heartless.",
">\n\nHow many of these kids were molested by Trump supporters? Not zero.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to think if Trump was still POTUS, these (and likely many more) kids would still be lost.",
">\n\nNot enough is made over the evil that Trump and Stephen Miller committed during this fiasco. \nObjectively horrific, vile men.",
">\n\nNever forget there was one boy who died in his own vomit for hours before someone checked up on him. My blood still seethes thinking about it.\nHis name was Carlos Gregorio Hernandez Vasquez, he was 16 from Guatemala.",
">\n\nI'm very happy to read this. That said, the fact that this ever happened (and I don't care who it happens under) is disgusting and needs to be completely stopped from happening again.",
">\n\nThis should be much bigger news",
">\n\nHow many years were these kids without their parents in a government camp?",
">\n\nClose to four years.",
">\n\nOh yea I forgot he did this, the absolute sicko",
">\n\nThis is real oppressive fascist shit, my dear Americans. Except those who should hear this either won't read this or don't have a problem with it...",
">\n\nThis probably puts SStephen Miller in the deepest of funks.",
">\n\nGenuinely good news and a step towards righting an intentionally monstrous act.",
">\n\nhow many more are there? how many were raped? how many died?",
">\n\nIt's good to see the nation moving closer to its founding principles.",
">\n\nIf this is true, it’s the only news I heard today that I give a single fuck about. Wow. YES. Keep going. 100% reunification.",
">\n\nThere are still missing children.",
">\n\nTrAnS pEoPlE aRe GrOoMiNg OuR cHiLdReN. No, there not, and your outrage would be more effective if it targeted the POS you voted for.",
">\n\nTrump reign of terror was so barbaric.",
">\n\nThing is. .....Republicans are probably unhappy about this.",
">\n\nThis definitely put a smile on my face! :)",
">\n\nUS reunites nearly 700 kids taken from parents under ~~Trump~~ the republicans.",
">\n\nSomehow trump will take credit for this. He'll say something like how much better he made those parents appreciate their children and the children their parents. Ugh.",
">\n\nbold of you to assume he'll pay any attention at all to them.",
">\n\nHow I fucking wish \"Kids in cages\" never became the misleading rallying cry against Trump when kidnapped children was the more accurate description of what the administration was doing that needed to be stopped immediately.\nHow many times have you seen some galaxy brain talk about how \"Oh nobody says 'kids in cages' anymore now that it's ok Biden is doing it!\" Yeah it was a stupid and inaccurate criticism to begin with, because any kind of policy of detaining people caught trying to cross the border illegally will fit the \"kids in cages\" meme. \nThe entire reason people got mad at Trump beyond the border wall nonsense was because he specifically ordered a family separation policy that was designed to function as a cruel deterrent to immigration. The Obama administration was forced to adopt a family separation policy because courts ruled that minors could not be detained with adults when detained by ICE, but the Trump administration embraced this policy and added on kidnapping and forced separation across the country which resembled human trafficking more than any kind of immigration policy.\nAnd yeah, Biden is reuniting people while still maintaining a policy of not letting anyone cross the border anywhere at any time for any reason. We can talk about the ethics of detaining people caught trying to cross a national border illegally, and we should. But its an entirely separate discussion from whether one should steal their kids and ship them across the country and throw away the records of where they went.",
">\n\nAnother horrifying legacy of the US.",
">\n\nStephen Miller needs to be permanently attached to this heartless decision.",
">\n\nThe damage has been done. It's literally the least we can do is give them their children back.. I can't even believe that sentence needed to be said. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nFinally, someone thought of the children",
">\n\nYet another crime that orange gasbag will never be punished for…",
">\n\nThis chapter of Trump's presidency was truly mask off evil from the party that professes that they are the party of morals and family values. Before this people could argue that they could be afforded the benefit of the doubt. I kind of knew that Republicans were trolls and bad faith actors but then after this I knew that they really have no bottom line with how low they are willing to go. Truly evil what they did to those desperate families and kids when it would have been the easiest thing in the world to just not.",
">\n\nThis is not the same war crime Russia is doing in the Ukraine. It's a completely different war crime.",
">\n\nIt's sad and despicable that this is even necessary.",
">\n\nThis post has about 670 comments. Imagine if every single one of them was a family reunion. Heartbreaking cruelty from the last administration.",
">\n\nThe Trimp administration did a lot terrible things and had plenty of awful, harmful policies. But this is one of those times when it crossed the line into literal evil.",
">\n\nI figured this was happening in the background but damn it's heartbreaking that it's taking this long because of how thoroughly Trump fucked up any semblance of process for the DHS\nLike don't get me wrong, anyone who works for ICE is and always has been a disgusting pig, but they used to be disgusting pigs bound by similar levels of US bureaucracy as the rest of the government",
">\n\nThis was a very good thing to do and the media isn’t talking about it.",
">\n\nThis needs to be bigger news",
">\n\nWhat the hell AP, it was the US under Trump too. Maybe a better headline might have been \"Biden admin reunites nearly 700...\"",
">\n\nOur bad, we did teach the kid to walk and talk, she mostly knows to say “put your hands through the bars” but still.",
">\n\nThis is news I've been waiting 6 years for.",
">\n\nWas Eric one of them?",
">\n\nI will look for you, I will find you and I will reunite you",
">\n\nLike the motherfucking handmaids tale or some shit",
">\n\nIt's nice for the country to be taking a step back towards its ideals.",
">\n\nWhy the fuck is this not plastered all over the news? This was an international outrage for years and now it’s a tiny news story thrown in on a Friday? Whomever is in charge of the WH Press Office should be ashamed.",
">\n\nNot sure what the White House Press Office could do here if outlets simply don't bother pushing the story.",
">\n\nI want to know how many are still separated.\nEverything else is not good enough.",
">\n\nYou will need to do a slight bit of math when reading the article to get the exact number but it as about a thousand remaining to be united.",
">\n\nI feel for these kids (and their parents). Many of them have been sexually assaulted because no one was there to protect them.",
">\n\nGee, Trump reminds me of Hitler for some reason. Does anyone else see a similarity? One redeeming factor is that we all know how Hitler ended up.",
">\n\nIt is a great labor to undo great evils. \nGlad it's being done.",
">\n\nHow many in total were separated? 700 is great, but if there are still 1,000s more this should also be an equal amount of new coverage.",
">\n\nThe exact counts are in the article if you want them.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if the articles were meant to be read.",
">\n\nIt’s a good start",
">\n\nIs trump a Russian spy?\nA global traitor",
">\n\nWhen will the real criminals be put in jail?",
">\n\nvery nice to see this happen and hopefully never happens again.",
">\n\nI pray the remaining children are with US family members. This was an impeachable criminal act by Trump",
">\n\nThis was by far the most evil thing his administration did.",
">\n\nNow seperate Trump from his family.",
">\n\nI mean, damage done. If I was fleeing my home in terror from economic disaster, and the place I ran to stole my fucking kid from me, and I didn’t get them back for three years?…. I mean… that dude is a terrorist now. What is left in his life except to punish this country?",
">\n\nLock him up",
">\n\nSome good news",
">\n\nThis is not enough.",
">\n\nI was kidnapped and separated from one of my parents for a week when I was young. To be separated for such a long time… The shit is going to haunt those kids for the rest of their lives and they will likely hate those who put them through this. I know this firsthand just based how lost I felt in my experience.",
">\n\nSome good news.",
">\n\nOh, well that's good news.",
">\n\nBut I was told in 2016 that Democrats were the same as Republicans.",
">\n\nI know the mods have that thing about being courteous to others blah blah blah, but fuck trump...",
">\n\nYes, but there are still an estimated 1,000 more that they can’t even find yet. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nThe headline shouldn't exist but half the country literally voted for this to happen. It's insane. Ashamed to be an American.",
">\n\nAfter the last child is reunited with family, Melania's \"I don't really care do you\" jacket will be displayed in the Smithsonian.",
">\n\n*Biden administration reunites 700 kids taken from parents under trump",
">\n\nOnly 49,300 to go.",
">\n\nThe Trump administration was monstrous. If there is such a thing as Karma this country has a lot to pay for…",
">\n\nI hope they use this to finally lock up Trump and his goons. This is disgusting and a stain on the US.",
">\n\nThe right thing to do.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\n/r/Orphancrushingmachine",
">\n\nWhy are the Republicans such pieces of shit? The whole fucking Republican Party needs to be done away with permanently.",
">\n\nIts still happening. Reuniting kids is great and all but if the same policies that separated them still exist it doesn't mean anything",
">\n\nbelongs in /r/upliftingnews!",
">\n\nHonestly it baffles me why people see “horrendous injustice addressed after long delay” and say “/r/upliftingnews”. There’s nothing uplifting about this story, everyone should be enraged.",
">\n\nEveryone is enraged all the time about everything and then go to Reddit or Twitter to make comments which does nothing.",
">\n\nAt least enraged people acknowledge the problem. Toxic positivity does less than that.",
">\n\nGood. Shame on the previous terroristic administration for the separations in the first place.",
">\n\nBut my dad won’t be talking about this. \nOnly that Biden keeps on sending money to Ukraine and his social security is going to run out. \nIt’s kind of funny at this point.",
">\n\nRemind him that his social security will run out, but you won’t get any because we don’t fucking tax the rich like we did before the 80s.",
">\n\nGOP, the party of family values",
">\n\nPutin the dwarf and Donnie the orange-haired orangutan had a lot in common.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nAlternative headline: US returns some of the kids they stole and lost",
">\n\nPeace of garbage: Trump. Hope same happens to his children and grand children",
">\n\nFrom the thumbnail, i was confused and worried . I thought I was about to read Jeff Bezos stole kids to work in Amazon warehouses or something. >_< don't act like it's unreasonable given the last 7 years.",
">\n\nBiden administration making a task force to reunite families, after being in the administration that bolstered the same organization that separated the kids is a joke lol\nI beg for Reddit to look at the bigger picture then just “trump bad, blue good”",
">\n\nYou're incorrectly conflating two issues. \nDeportations have to happen if we are going to protect our borders. But we can be compassionate while deporting people, like by not over-crowding facilities, providing basic sanitary needs, and keeping families together as a unit throughout the process.\nThe Trump administration issued a \"zero tolerance\" family seperation policy. It meant that children were seperated from their families as a matter of policy, with no concern for proper record keeping to reunite the families once a verdict in their case had been reached. The administration also allowed its facilities to overcrowd, and there are many reports of inadequate sanitary supplies. \nTheir point was cruelty.\nThe policy was rescinded as soon as the Biden administration took office.",
">\n\nWe must protect our borders!!! 🔴 “booooooooo”\nWe must protect our borders!!! 🔵 “yeahhh!!!!”\nYou do know the majority of illegal immigration is from airplanes right? You do realize ICE in general illegally block’s asylum seekers yeah? We must protect the borders!!! \nZero tolerance, but only detaining “threats” (literally anyone a government body can deem a threat, just look at our jail system) is good! Bc framing it that was makes it better",
">\n\nIts like you're trying to weaponize missing the point",
">\n\nHopefully they were reunited back in their country of origin.",
">\n\nWhy?\nWhat's wrong with people coming to this country and becoming Americans?",
">\n\nHave you seen the amount of people screaming to deport legal asylum seekers lately?\nThey're brown, and from another place. That's all it takes for conservatives to hate and fear you.",
">\n\nHow many times does it need to be said.\nMilitary Industrial Organization",
">\n\nI am a single issue voter, and this is what I voted for",
">\n\nFinally. I was starting to wonder if the Biden administration had completely forgotten about them. Let's hope that they get every child safety reunited with their families.\nAlso, we can't just stop here with immigration- we need to safely let in more refugees and asylum seekers. If we can let in ones from Ukraine, then we should be able to let in ones from Syria and other countries.",
">\n\nI thought this started in 1997?",
">\n\nThis is to indicate that Trump is such a large ass that 700 children's parents were stuck under him.",
">\n\nB(ased)iden",
">\n\nCool. What about the rest of them? What about the kids who are still missing after being taken into the internment camps ICE set up?",
">\n\nPerfect is the enemy of good."
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"The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children. In 30 years from now we will be seeing documentaries about children who suffered permanent psychological damage at the hands of Trumps administration. People will be shocked to learn that the U.S. government focible took these peoples children and intentionally separated them to be cruel.",
">\n\nThe people who supported it will pretend they never knew anything about it and act shocked and disgusted.",
">\n\nThey already are claiming this did not happen or Obama did it or some other nonsense. Let me clear: Trump instituted a policy to forcibly separate children (including infants) from their legal asylum-seekng parents at the border. He did this to be cruel and scare people from coming. His minions then forgot to keep records of who the kids were.",
">\n\nI'd only argue with \"forgot.\" They intentionally didn't keep records so as to make it as difficult as possible to reunite these families. The cruelty was the point. In fact, they outright declared that they were doing this to try to dissuade people from coming to America. \"Try to seek asylum in America and we'll separate you from your kids who you'll never see again!\"",
">\n\n\"The laws are the laws\" = dead giveaway for a fascist. The law is there to serve the people. If it's not serving them, it should be changed.",
">\n\nWhat really gives away the game is politicians supporting and pushing through laws that do not have majority public support - anti-marijuana and abortion come to mind. Also the use of propaganda to try to affect levels of support for certain things.",
">\n\nA piece of legislation is almost always guaranteed to fail if it polls extremely popular with Americans on all sides. It's really sad...",
">\n\nYep, like “80% of Americans support this” and they’re uh… “oh but some discredited propaganda bullshit”. Really gives away who they are truly working for.",
">\n\nNo, they'll have their \"experts\" testify that they're correct. Then you find out the \"expert\" talking about MJ legalization is a LEO and the \"expert\" talking about abortion is a religious leader.",
">\n\nThe people who did this belong on trail for crimes against humanity at the Hague.\nActual consequences? Fuckin' crickets as usual.",
">\n\nReminder that under Bush the US granted itself permission to invade The Hague If an American citizen should ever be tried there.",
">\n\nWe should send Bush to be tried there.",
">\n\nTrump and his henchmen should be charged for these crimes. Of all of Trump's crimes, I think the concentration camps for immigrants and separating immigrants from their children were among the worst. We have to punish them or this will happen again next time they have the presidency.",
">\n\nAmerica doesn't punish Republican crimes.\n\nSource: Jan 6th",
">\n\nThe list of sources is very long.",
">\n\nIt starts at least with the Watergate. GWB never answered to war crimes or to lying to start a war. And Trump pardon the only person charged in the Valery Plane affair.",
">\n\nDidn't Nixon interfere with the peace process in Vietnam, extending the war so his opponent wouldn't get a win right before the election?",
">\n\nYep.",
">\n\nStephen Miller should be in a 6 x 9",
">\n\nAre there any cells smaller than that for that pea brained asshat?",
">\n\nThere’s a box",
">\n\nIf it fits it sits",
">\n\nThis program of separating parents from their children without documentation is going to be remembered in the same way we talk about the Syphilis Study at Tuskegee. Except that was the 1930s.\nOne of these days some of those kids are going to take their pound of flesh out of the United States either legally or violently, and they'll have right on their side.",
">\n\nnah, the fascists will have rewritten history in the US by then. Our kids will never learn about any of it unless we move.",
">\n\nPresident Ron Desantis III will remove it from the national curriculum.",
">\n\nProbably in a governor position he would still have that power",
">\n\nNever forget this was a crime against humanity. Conservatives supported it. Even your so called “moderate conservative friends”\nIf it had been your kid they wouldn’t give a fuck.\nIn 20 years people will call it a stain on our nation. But the sociopaths who enabled it are here right now.",
">\n\nThe sociopaths who enabled it are in a very good position to seize absolute control of our country, too.",
">\n\nDon’t forget that it’s the trump supporters that empowered the sociopaths.",
">\n\nIt boggles my mind how there isn't a bigger deal made of this. They stole kids from their parents. Any time it pops into my head, I'm infuriated. In a just world, Trump and his administration would be harshly punished.",
">\n\nSeriously. It is crime against HUMANITY",
">\n\nDOJ should throw kidnapping charges onto the pile of Trump crimes.",
">\n\nKidnapped. That's called kidnapping.",
">\n\nAbduction, human trafficking, genocide.\nTake your pick.",
">\n\nThis needs to be made into a drama doc, like the recent Jeffrey Dahmer series. I guarantee it would make a compelling story, and if done right, it would reach even strong trump supporters just by virtue of it's entertainment value. \nThis whole debacle was one of the cruelest things the US has done in decades, and it was done with Glee by a mentally unstable maniac and his supporters. The sooner we see it through the lens of history and regret, the better",
">\n\nWe better hurry before the republicans ban all history.",
">\n\nThis is only happening because trump never had a plan to reunite the families.\nFor those in the back. He ripped apart families with NO INTENTION OF THEM EVER BEING REUNITED.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. In order to create a situation like this, they had to have the intent to prevent the reuniting of families.",
">\n\nIt pains me to think how great this nation could be if the government didnt have to spend time and resources fixing the things republican admins did",
">\n\nIt's such an insane cycle. Conservatives fuck shit up, Dems finally get back in and spend the entire time fixing shit, conservatives run on \"look, they didn't make anything better!\", get back in to fuck shit up. Rinse and repeat.",
">\n\nExcept Dems (if they actually focus on it) are usually only able to fix 70ish% of the budgetary and humanitarian issues that were cause by the previous administration. Then when they lose reelection we slip further backwards.",
">\n\nWhat do you mean if?",
">\n\nIf they focus on repairing damage instead of squabbling with each other (which happens a lot).",
">\n\nAs a Mexican immigrant I really appreciate this",
">\n\nI just wish we had received the same support nationwide like BLM did.",
">\n\nOutraged Republicans demand to know why they were not sold to traffickers as they planned.",
">\n\nThink of all that could have been accomplished in the same time with the same effort if we didn't need them to focus on this. Every Democratic administration is hobbled by needing to undo the evils of the Republicans before them. And it doesn't go the other way because it only takes a second to wreck something, but it takes time to do things right.",
">\n\nContrarily to what the aryicle stars, they were not crossing illegaly. They came as asylum seekers, which is legal. Many (all?) of them arrived at official points of entry. These are not people who were arrested crossing the river in the middle of the night (not that it would justify taking their kids in any way).",
">\n\nOf course the Republican subs are silent on this\nFuck trump",
">\n\ngiving them all citizenship and all of their families is the least we could do for what we've done to those kids",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nThey’ll still be traumatized for the rest of their lives. Drug addiction, depression, suicides will plague these children. If there were any justice, the architects of this policy should be charged with crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nTypical go to of Christian nationalists is to steal children.",
">\n\nI guess the conservatives are ok as long it isn't their child or children.",
">\n\nI want to remind everyone here that Trump's ICE not only separated countless children from their parents, they then \"LOST\" them. Trafficked. They trafficked them. But they called them \"lost\". Then, in an absolutely astounding act of evil and affirmation of cruelty, they released the numbers to the public: 1488 lost children.\nYes. That's right. 1488, the same number literal nazis hold sacred.\nThe depth of evil and abuse and violence the right has descended to should be SO MUCH more alarming to more people. In case you think the assertion that the children were trafficked is alarmist please remember when they caught ICE transporting children without paperwork in the dead of night or keeping children in hotels without due process then sending them back to mexico with no transition process so they were essentially homeless.",
">\n\nWow. That is incredibly evil.",
">\n\nThe GOP are the Nazis come again. Time is a flat circle and most of the circle is fascism",
">\n\nNearly 75 percent is better than I expected, and they're still working. One small cause for optimism.",
">\n\nI wouldn't call it a small cause. This is pretty massive, actually following through with fixing this disgusting miscarriage of justice. I remember reading about this stuff happening and thinking that it would have to be a priority for a new administration. Glad it's being handled.",
">\n\nI remember reading this and thinking ‘holy fucking shit’, and my view on USA has not been the same since.\nThe fact Trump still got 70+ million votes after mandating/ordering this policy is insane.",
">\n\nTrump voters tend to be low information. If they even heard about this, they heard someone on Fox/Newsmax/twitter defending it or saying it was fantastic while distorting the truth about it.",
">\n\nI’d like to think they were ignorant, but somehow it all adds up. I can’t let it go.",
">\n\nNot enough, but it’s a start.",
">\n\nCrimes against humanity.",
">\n\nJesus Christ Trump was a disaster, we're just now returning the kids to their parents though?!? The damage we caused will never go away.",
">\n\nOver 2000 were returned during the Trump administration so these are part of the harder to find parents.",
">\n\nSomething tells me this will not be on many news stations tonight.",
">\n\nFinally. This is why I voted in 2020",
">\n\nI will be enraged until the headline reads ALL!",
">\n\nUnfortunately, that might never happen given that the Trump administration managed to lose track of a bunch of them. I wish I was making that up.",
">\n\nHow about the DOJ criminally prosecute the architects and others who had a hand in this heinous crime?",
">\n\n\nAccording to figures released by the Department of Homeland Security, 3,881 children were separated from their families from 2017 to 2021. About 74% of those have been reunited with their families: 2,176 before the task force was created and 689 afterward.\nBut that still leaves nearly 1,000 children. Of those, 148 are in the reunification process. The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children.\n\nUgh, close but not close enough to fixing this mistake.",
">\n\nRemember when the Trump administration claimed that it was impossible to reunite the families?",
">\n\nWhy do we always have to clean up after Republicans? Getting tiresome.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that because the separation policy was specifically designed to deter certain kinds of people from seeking asylum, these kidnappings qualify as a crime against humanity under international law.",
">\n\nA whole bunch of them were trafficked to the upper Midwest to work the overnight shift on meat packing plant floors. It was only uncovered when one of their middle school teachers called CPS because these kids were coming in with severe chemical burns on their hands and arms. And, yes - after working the overnight shift cleaning a meat processing plant floor, these kids were going to school all day. The youngest was 12.",
">\n\nOh no. Just appalling",
">\n\nBecause it’s the right thing to do. Well done. Still going to be a long road toward healing for those poor kids.",
">\n\nI'm still stunned nobody has gone to jail for this and that the US public did not draw the line at this. It is sickening.",
">\n\nWe don’t get credit for fixing our own fuckup",
">\n\nIt is SHAMEFUL how these people were treated.",
">\n\nThat is wonderful news. Trump and his administration were so evil and cruel. I can't imagine how anyone could be so heartless.",
">\n\nHow many of these kids were molested by Trump supporters? Not zero.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to think if Trump was still POTUS, these (and likely many more) kids would still be lost.",
">\n\nNot enough is made over the evil that Trump and Stephen Miller committed during this fiasco. \nObjectively horrific, vile men.",
">\n\nNever forget there was one boy who died in his own vomit for hours before someone checked up on him. My blood still seethes thinking about it.\nHis name was Carlos Gregorio Hernandez Vasquez, he was 16 from Guatemala.",
">\n\nI'm very happy to read this. That said, the fact that this ever happened (and I don't care who it happens under) is disgusting and needs to be completely stopped from happening again.",
">\n\nThis should be much bigger news",
">\n\nHow many years were these kids without their parents in a government camp?",
">\n\nClose to four years.",
">\n\nOh yea I forgot he did this, the absolute sicko",
">\n\nThis is real oppressive fascist shit, my dear Americans. Except those who should hear this either won't read this or don't have a problem with it...",
">\n\nThis probably puts SStephen Miller in the deepest of funks.",
">\n\nGenuinely good news and a step towards righting an intentionally monstrous act.",
">\n\nhow many more are there? how many were raped? how many died?",
">\n\nIt's good to see the nation moving closer to its founding principles.",
">\n\nIf this is true, it’s the only news I heard today that I give a single fuck about. Wow. YES. Keep going. 100% reunification.",
">\n\nThere are still missing children.",
">\n\nTrAnS pEoPlE aRe GrOoMiNg OuR cHiLdReN. No, there not, and your outrage would be more effective if it targeted the POS you voted for.",
">\n\nTrump reign of terror was so barbaric.",
">\n\nThing is. .....Republicans are probably unhappy about this.",
">\n\nThis definitely put a smile on my face! :)",
">\n\nUS reunites nearly 700 kids taken from parents under ~~Trump~~ the republicans.",
">\n\nSomehow trump will take credit for this. He'll say something like how much better he made those parents appreciate their children and the children their parents. Ugh.",
">\n\nbold of you to assume he'll pay any attention at all to them.",
">\n\nHow I fucking wish \"Kids in cages\" never became the misleading rallying cry against Trump when kidnapped children was the more accurate description of what the administration was doing that needed to be stopped immediately.\nHow many times have you seen some galaxy brain talk about how \"Oh nobody says 'kids in cages' anymore now that it's ok Biden is doing it!\" Yeah it was a stupid and inaccurate criticism to begin with, because any kind of policy of detaining people caught trying to cross the border illegally will fit the \"kids in cages\" meme. \nThe entire reason people got mad at Trump beyond the border wall nonsense was because he specifically ordered a family separation policy that was designed to function as a cruel deterrent to immigration. The Obama administration was forced to adopt a family separation policy because courts ruled that minors could not be detained with adults when detained by ICE, but the Trump administration embraced this policy and added on kidnapping and forced separation across the country which resembled human trafficking more than any kind of immigration policy.\nAnd yeah, Biden is reuniting people while still maintaining a policy of not letting anyone cross the border anywhere at any time for any reason. We can talk about the ethics of detaining people caught trying to cross a national border illegally, and we should. But its an entirely separate discussion from whether one should steal their kids and ship them across the country and throw away the records of where they went.",
">\n\nAnother horrifying legacy of the US.",
">\n\nStephen Miller needs to be permanently attached to this heartless decision.",
">\n\nThe damage has been done. It's literally the least we can do is give them their children back.. I can't even believe that sentence needed to be said. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nFinally, someone thought of the children",
">\n\nYet another crime that orange gasbag will never be punished for…",
">\n\nThis chapter of Trump's presidency was truly mask off evil from the party that professes that they are the party of morals and family values. Before this people could argue that they could be afforded the benefit of the doubt. I kind of knew that Republicans were trolls and bad faith actors but then after this I knew that they really have no bottom line with how low they are willing to go. Truly evil what they did to those desperate families and kids when it would have been the easiest thing in the world to just not.",
">\n\nThis is not the same war crime Russia is doing in the Ukraine. It's a completely different war crime.",
">\n\nIt's sad and despicable that this is even necessary.",
">\n\nThis post has about 670 comments. Imagine if every single one of them was a family reunion. Heartbreaking cruelty from the last administration.",
">\n\nThe Trimp administration did a lot terrible things and had plenty of awful, harmful policies. But this is one of those times when it crossed the line into literal evil.",
">\n\nI figured this was happening in the background but damn it's heartbreaking that it's taking this long because of how thoroughly Trump fucked up any semblance of process for the DHS\nLike don't get me wrong, anyone who works for ICE is and always has been a disgusting pig, but they used to be disgusting pigs bound by similar levels of US bureaucracy as the rest of the government",
">\n\nThis was a very good thing to do and the media isn’t talking about it.",
">\n\nThis needs to be bigger news",
">\n\nWhat the hell AP, it was the US under Trump too. Maybe a better headline might have been \"Biden admin reunites nearly 700...\"",
">\n\nOur bad, we did teach the kid to walk and talk, she mostly knows to say “put your hands through the bars” but still.",
">\n\nThis is news I've been waiting 6 years for.",
">\n\nWas Eric one of them?",
">\n\nI will look for you, I will find you and I will reunite you",
">\n\nLike the motherfucking handmaids tale or some shit",
">\n\nIt's nice for the country to be taking a step back towards its ideals.",
">\n\nWhy the fuck is this not plastered all over the news? This was an international outrage for years and now it’s a tiny news story thrown in on a Friday? Whomever is in charge of the WH Press Office should be ashamed.",
">\n\nNot sure what the White House Press Office could do here if outlets simply don't bother pushing the story.",
">\n\nI want to know how many are still separated.\nEverything else is not good enough.",
">\n\nYou will need to do a slight bit of math when reading the article to get the exact number but it as about a thousand remaining to be united.",
">\n\nI feel for these kids (and their parents). Many of them have been sexually assaulted because no one was there to protect them.",
">\n\nGee, Trump reminds me of Hitler for some reason. Does anyone else see a similarity? One redeeming factor is that we all know how Hitler ended up.",
">\n\nIt is a great labor to undo great evils. \nGlad it's being done.",
">\n\nHow many in total were separated? 700 is great, but if there are still 1,000s more this should also be an equal amount of new coverage.",
">\n\nThe exact counts are in the article if you want them.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if the articles were meant to be read.",
">\n\nIt’s a good start",
">\n\nIs trump a Russian spy?\nA global traitor",
">\n\nWhen will the real criminals be put in jail?",
">\n\nvery nice to see this happen and hopefully never happens again.",
">\n\nI pray the remaining children are with US family members. This was an impeachable criminal act by Trump",
">\n\nThis was by far the most evil thing his administration did.",
">\n\nNow seperate Trump from his family.",
">\n\nI mean, damage done. If I was fleeing my home in terror from economic disaster, and the place I ran to stole my fucking kid from me, and I didn’t get them back for three years?…. I mean… that dude is a terrorist now. What is left in his life except to punish this country?",
">\n\nLock him up",
">\n\nSome good news",
">\n\nThis is not enough.",
">\n\nI was kidnapped and separated from one of my parents for a week when I was young. To be separated for such a long time… The shit is going to haunt those kids for the rest of their lives and they will likely hate those who put them through this. I know this firsthand just based how lost I felt in my experience.",
">\n\nSome good news.",
">\n\nOh, well that's good news.",
">\n\nBut I was told in 2016 that Democrats were the same as Republicans.",
">\n\nI know the mods have that thing about being courteous to others blah blah blah, but fuck trump...",
">\n\nYes, but there are still an estimated 1,000 more that they can’t even find yet. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nThe headline shouldn't exist but half the country literally voted for this to happen. It's insane. Ashamed to be an American.",
">\n\nAfter the last child is reunited with family, Melania's \"I don't really care do you\" jacket will be displayed in the Smithsonian.",
">\n\n*Biden administration reunites 700 kids taken from parents under trump",
">\n\nOnly 49,300 to go.",
">\n\nThe Trump administration was monstrous. If there is such a thing as Karma this country has a lot to pay for…",
">\n\nI hope they use this to finally lock up Trump and his goons. This is disgusting and a stain on the US.",
">\n\nThe right thing to do.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\n/r/Orphancrushingmachine",
">\n\nWhy are the Republicans such pieces of shit? The whole fucking Republican Party needs to be done away with permanently.",
">\n\nIts still happening. Reuniting kids is great and all but if the same policies that separated them still exist it doesn't mean anything",
">\n\nbelongs in /r/upliftingnews!",
">\n\nHonestly it baffles me why people see “horrendous injustice addressed after long delay” and say “/r/upliftingnews”. There’s nothing uplifting about this story, everyone should be enraged.",
">\n\nEveryone is enraged all the time about everything and then go to Reddit or Twitter to make comments which does nothing.",
">\n\nAt least enraged people acknowledge the problem. Toxic positivity does less than that.",
">\n\nGood. Shame on the previous terroristic administration for the separations in the first place.",
">\n\nBut my dad won’t be talking about this. \nOnly that Biden keeps on sending money to Ukraine and his social security is going to run out. \nIt’s kind of funny at this point.",
">\n\nRemind him that his social security will run out, but you won’t get any because we don’t fucking tax the rich like we did before the 80s.",
">\n\nGOP, the party of family values",
">\n\nPutin the dwarf and Donnie the orange-haired orangutan had a lot in common.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nAlternative headline: US returns some of the kids they stole and lost",
">\n\nPeace of garbage: Trump. Hope same happens to his children and grand children",
">\n\nFrom the thumbnail, i was confused and worried . I thought I was about to read Jeff Bezos stole kids to work in Amazon warehouses or something. >_< don't act like it's unreasonable given the last 7 years.",
">\n\nBiden administration making a task force to reunite families, after being in the administration that bolstered the same organization that separated the kids is a joke lol\nI beg for Reddit to look at the bigger picture then just “trump bad, blue good”",
">\n\nYou're incorrectly conflating two issues. \nDeportations have to happen if we are going to protect our borders. But we can be compassionate while deporting people, like by not over-crowding facilities, providing basic sanitary needs, and keeping families together as a unit throughout the process.\nThe Trump administration issued a \"zero tolerance\" family seperation policy. It meant that children were seperated from their families as a matter of policy, with no concern for proper record keeping to reunite the families once a verdict in their case had been reached. The administration also allowed its facilities to overcrowd, and there are many reports of inadequate sanitary supplies. \nTheir point was cruelty.\nThe policy was rescinded as soon as the Biden administration took office.",
">\n\nWe must protect our borders!!! 🔴 “booooooooo”\nWe must protect our borders!!! 🔵 “yeahhh!!!!”\nYou do know the majority of illegal immigration is from airplanes right? You do realize ICE in general illegally block’s asylum seekers yeah? We must protect the borders!!! \nZero tolerance, but only detaining “threats” (literally anyone a government body can deem a threat, just look at our jail system) is good! Bc framing it that was makes it better",
">\n\nIts like you're trying to weaponize missing the point",
">\n\nHopefully they were reunited back in their country of origin.",
">\n\nWhy?\nWhat's wrong with people coming to this country and becoming Americans?",
">\n\nHave you seen the amount of people screaming to deport legal asylum seekers lately?\nThey're brown, and from another place. That's all it takes for conservatives to hate and fear you.",
">\n\nHow many times does it need to be said.\nMilitary Industrial Organization",
">\n\nI am a single issue voter, and this is what I voted for",
">\n\nFinally. I was starting to wonder if the Biden administration had completely forgotten about them. Let's hope that they get every child safety reunited with their families.\nAlso, we can't just stop here with immigration- we need to safely let in more refugees and asylum seekers. If we can let in ones from Ukraine, then we should be able to let in ones from Syria and other countries.",
">\n\nI thought this started in 1997?",
">\n\nThis is to indicate that Trump is such a large ass that 700 children's parents were stuck under him.",
">\n\nB(ased)iden",
">\n\nCool. What about the rest of them? What about the kids who are still missing after being taken into the internment camps ICE set up?",
">\n\nPerfect is the enemy of good.",
">\n\nGotta accept a certain level of kids in cages?"
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"The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children. In 30 years from now we will be seeing documentaries about children who suffered permanent psychological damage at the hands of Trumps administration. People will be shocked to learn that the U.S. government focible took these peoples children and intentionally separated them to be cruel.",
">\n\nThe people who supported it will pretend they never knew anything about it and act shocked and disgusted.",
">\n\nThey already are claiming this did not happen or Obama did it or some other nonsense. Let me clear: Trump instituted a policy to forcibly separate children (including infants) from their legal asylum-seekng parents at the border. He did this to be cruel and scare people from coming. His minions then forgot to keep records of who the kids were.",
">\n\nI'd only argue with \"forgot.\" They intentionally didn't keep records so as to make it as difficult as possible to reunite these families. The cruelty was the point. In fact, they outright declared that they were doing this to try to dissuade people from coming to America. \"Try to seek asylum in America and we'll separate you from your kids who you'll never see again!\"",
">\n\n\"The laws are the laws\" = dead giveaway for a fascist. The law is there to serve the people. If it's not serving them, it should be changed.",
">\n\nWhat really gives away the game is politicians supporting and pushing through laws that do not have majority public support - anti-marijuana and abortion come to mind. Also the use of propaganda to try to affect levels of support for certain things.",
">\n\nA piece of legislation is almost always guaranteed to fail if it polls extremely popular with Americans on all sides. It's really sad...",
">\n\nYep, like “80% of Americans support this” and they’re uh… “oh but some discredited propaganda bullshit”. Really gives away who they are truly working for.",
">\n\nNo, they'll have their \"experts\" testify that they're correct. Then you find out the \"expert\" talking about MJ legalization is a LEO and the \"expert\" talking about abortion is a religious leader.",
">\n\nThe people who did this belong on trail for crimes against humanity at the Hague.\nActual consequences? Fuckin' crickets as usual.",
">\n\nReminder that under Bush the US granted itself permission to invade The Hague If an American citizen should ever be tried there.",
">\n\nWe should send Bush to be tried there.",
">\n\nTrump and his henchmen should be charged for these crimes. Of all of Trump's crimes, I think the concentration camps for immigrants and separating immigrants from their children were among the worst. We have to punish them or this will happen again next time they have the presidency.",
">\n\nAmerica doesn't punish Republican crimes.\n\nSource: Jan 6th",
">\n\nThe list of sources is very long.",
">\n\nIt starts at least with the Watergate. GWB never answered to war crimes or to lying to start a war. And Trump pardon the only person charged in the Valery Plane affair.",
">\n\nDidn't Nixon interfere with the peace process in Vietnam, extending the war so his opponent wouldn't get a win right before the election?",
">\n\nYep.",
">\n\nStephen Miller should be in a 6 x 9",
">\n\nAre there any cells smaller than that for that pea brained asshat?",
">\n\nThere’s a box",
">\n\nIf it fits it sits",
">\n\nThis program of separating parents from their children without documentation is going to be remembered in the same way we talk about the Syphilis Study at Tuskegee. Except that was the 1930s.\nOne of these days some of those kids are going to take their pound of flesh out of the United States either legally or violently, and they'll have right on their side.",
">\n\nnah, the fascists will have rewritten history in the US by then. Our kids will never learn about any of it unless we move.",
">\n\nPresident Ron Desantis III will remove it from the national curriculum.",
">\n\nProbably in a governor position he would still have that power",
">\n\nNever forget this was a crime against humanity. Conservatives supported it. Even your so called “moderate conservative friends”\nIf it had been your kid they wouldn’t give a fuck.\nIn 20 years people will call it a stain on our nation. But the sociopaths who enabled it are here right now.",
">\n\nThe sociopaths who enabled it are in a very good position to seize absolute control of our country, too.",
">\n\nDon’t forget that it’s the trump supporters that empowered the sociopaths.",
">\n\nIt boggles my mind how there isn't a bigger deal made of this. They stole kids from their parents. Any time it pops into my head, I'm infuriated. In a just world, Trump and his administration would be harshly punished.",
">\n\nSeriously. It is crime against HUMANITY",
">\n\nDOJ should throw kidnapping charges onto the pile of Trump crimes.",
">\n\nKidnapped. That's called kidnapping.",
">\n\nAbduction, human trafficking, genocide.\nTake your pick.",
">\n\nThis needs to be made into a drama doc, like the recent Jeffrey Dahmer series. I guarantee it would make a compelling story, and if done right, it would reach even strong trump supporters just by virtue of it's entertainment value. \nThis whole debacle was one of the cruelest things the US has done in decades, and it was done with Glee by a mentally unstable maniac and his supporters. The sooner we see it through the lens of history and regret, the better",
">\n\nWe better hurry before the republicans ban all history.",
">\n\nThis is only happening because trump never had a plan to reunite the families.\nFor those in the back. He ripped apart families with NO INTENTION OF THEM EVER BEING REUNITED.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. In order to create a situation like this, they had to have the intent to prevent the reuniting of families.",
">\n\nIt pains me to think how great this nation could be if the government didnt have to spend time and resources fixing the things republican admins did",
">\n\nIt's such an insane cycle. Conservatives fuck shit up, Dems finally get back in and spend the entire time fixing shit, conservatives run on \"look, they didn't make anything better!\", get back in to fuck shit up. Rinse and repeat.",
">\n\nExcept Dems (if they actually focus on it) are usually only able to fix 70ish% of the budgetary and humanitarian issues that were cause by the previous administration. Then when they lose reelection we slip further backwards.",
">\n\nWhat do you mean if?",
">\n\nIf they focus on repairing damage instead of squabbling with each other (which happens a lot).",
">\n\nAs a Mexican immigrant I really appreciate this",
">\n\nI just wish we had received the same support nationwide like BLM did.",
">\n\nOutraged Republicans demand to know why they were not sold to traffickers as they planned.",
">\n\nThink of all that could have been accomplished in the same time with the same effort if we didn't need them to focus on this. Every Democratic administration is hobbled by needing to undo the evils of the Republicans before them. And it doesn't go the other way because it only takes a second to wreck something, but it takes time to do things right.",
">\n\nContrarily to what the aryicle stars, they were not crossing illegaly. They came as asylum seekers, which is legal. Many (all?) of them arrived at official points of entry. These are not people who were arrested crossing the river in the middle of the night (not that it would justify taking their kids in any way).",
">\n\nOf course the Republican subs are silent on this\nFuck trump",
">\n\ngiving them all citizenship and all of their families is the least we could do for what we've done to those kids",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nThey’ll still be traumatized for the rest of their lives. Drug addiction, depression, suicides will plague these children. If there were any justice, the architects of this policy should be charged with crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nTypical go to of Christian nationalists is to steal children.",
">\n\nI guess the conservatives are ok as long it isn't their child or children.",
">\n\nI want to remind everyone here that Trump's ICE not only separated countless children from their parents, they then \"LOST\" them. Trafficked. They trafficked them. But they called them \"lost\". Then, in an absolutely astounding act of evil and affirmation of cruelty, they released the numbers to the public: 1488 lost children.\nYes. That's right. 1488, the same number literal nazis hold sacred.\nThe depth of evil and abuse and violence the right has descended to should be SO MUCH more alarming to more people. In case you think the assertion that the children were trafficked is alarmist please remember when they caught ICE transporting children without paperwork in the dead of night or keeping children in hotels without due process then sending them back to mexico with no transition process so they were essentially homeless.",
">\n\nWow. That is incredibly evil.",
">\n\nThe GOP are the Nazis come again. Time is a flat circle and most of the circle is fascism",
">\n\nNearly 75 percent is better than I expected, and they're still working. One small cause for optimism.",
">\n\nI wouldn't call it a small cause. This is pretty massive, actually following through with fixing this disgusting miscarriage of justice. I remember reading about this stuff happening and thinking that it would have to be a priority for a new administration. Glad it's being handled.",
">\n\nI remember reading this and thinking ‘holy fucking shit’, and my view on USA has not been the same since.\nThe fact Trump still got 70+ million votes after mandating/ordering this policy is insane.",
">\n\nTrump voters tend to be low information. If they even heard about this, they heard someone on Fox/Newsmax/twitter defending it or saying it was fantastic while distorting the truth about it.",
">\n\nI’d like to think they were ignorant, but somehow it all adds up. I can’t let it go.",
">\n\nNot enough, but it’s a start.",
">\n\nCrimes against humanity.",
">\n\nJesus Christ Trump was a disaster, we're just now returning the kids to their parents though?!? The damage we caused will never go away.",
">\n\nOver 2000 were returned during the Trump administration so these are part of the harder to find parents.",
">\n\nSomething tells me this will not be on many news stations tonight.",
">\n\nFinally. This is why I voted in 2020",
">\n\nI will be enraged until the headline reads ALL!",
">\n\nUnfortunately, that might never happen given that the Trump administration managed to lose track of a bunch of them. I wish I was making that up.",
">\n\nHow about the DOJ criminally prosecute the architects and others who had a hand in this heinous crime?",
">\n\n\nAccording to figures released by the Department of Homeland Security, 3,881 children were separated from their families from 2017 to 2021. About 74% of those have been reunited with their families: 2,176 before the task force was created and 689 afterward.\nBut that still leaves nearly 1,000 children. Of those, 148 are in the reunification process. The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children.\n\nUgh, close but not close enough to fixing this mistake.",
">\n\nRemember when the Trump administration claimed that it was impossible to reunite the families?",
">\n\nWhy do we always have to clean up after Republicans? Getting tiresome.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that because the separation policy was specifically designed to deter certain kinds of people from seeking asylum, these kidnappings qualify as a crime against humanity under international law.",
">\n\nA whole bunch of them were trafficked to the upper Midwest to work the overnight shift on meat packing plant floors. It was only uncovered when one of their middle school teachers called CPS because these kids were coming in with severe chemical burns on their hands and arms. And, yes - after working the overnight shift cleaning a meat processing plant floor, these kids were going to school all day. The youngest was 12.",
">\n\nOh no. Just appalling",
">\n\nBecause it’s the right thing to do. Well done. Still going to be a long road toward healing for those poor kids.",
">\n\nI'm still stunned nobody has gone to jail for this and that the US public did not draw the line at this. It is sickening.",
">\n\nWe don’t get credit for fixing our own fuckup",
">\n\nIt is SHAMEFUL how these people were treated.",
">\n\nThat is wonderful news. Trump and his administration were so evil and cruel. I can't imagine how anyone could be so heartless.",
">\n\nHow many of these kids were molested by Trump supporters? Not zero.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to think if Trump was still POTUS, these (and likely many more) kids would still be lost.",
">\n\nNot enough is made over the evil that Trump and Stephen Miller committed during this fiasco. \nObjectively horrific, vile men.",
">\n\nNever forget there was one boy who died in his own vomit for hours before someone checked up on him. My blood still seethes thinking about it.\nHis name was Carlos Gregorio Hernandez Vasquez, he was 16 from Guatemala.",
">\n\nI'm very happy to read this. That said, the fact that this ever happened (and I don't care who it happens under) is disgusting and needs to be completely stopped from happening again.",
">\n\nThis should be much bigger news",
">\n\nHow many years were these kids without their parents in a government camp?",
">\n\nClose to four years.",
">\n\nOh yea I forgot he did this, the absolute sicko",
">\n\nThis is real oppressive fascist shit, my dear Americans. Except those who should hear this either won't read this or don't have a problem with it...",
">\n\nThis probably puts SStephen Miller in the deepest of funks.",
">\n\nGenuinely good news and a step towards righting an intentionally monstrous act.",
">\n\nhow many more are there? how many were raped? how many died?",
">\n\nIt's good to see the nation moving closer to its founding principles.",
">\n\nIf this is true, it’s the only news I heard today that I give a single fuck about. Wow. YES. Keep going. 100% reunification.",
">\n\nThere are still missing children.",
">\n\nTrAnS pEoPlE aRe GrOoMiNg OuR cHiLdReN. No, there not, and your outrage would be more effective if it targeted the POS you voted for.",
">\n\nTrump reign of terror was so barbaric.",
">\n\nThing is. .....Republicans are probably unhappy about this.",
">\n\nThis definitely put a smile on my face! :)",
">\n\nUS reunites nearly 700 kids taken from parents under ~~Trump~~ the republicans.",
">\n\nSomehow trump will take credit for this. He'll say something like how much better he made those parents appreciate their children and the children their parents. Ugh.",
">\n\nbold of you to assume he'll pay any attention at all to them.",
">\n\nHow I fucking wish \"Kids in cages\" never became the misleading rallying cry against Trump when kidnapped children was the more accurate description of what the administration was doing that needed to be stopped immediately.\nHow many times have you seen some galaxy brain talk about how \"Oh nobody says 'kids in cages' anymore now that it's ok Biden is doing it!\" Yeah it was a stupid and inaccurate criticism to begin with, because any kind of policy of detaining people caught trying to cross the border illegally will fit the \"kids in cages\" meme. \nThe entire reason people got mad at Trump beyond the border wall nonsense was because he specifically ordered a family separation policy that was designed to function as a cruel deterrent to immigration. The Obama administration was forced to adopt a family separation policy because courts ruled that minors could not be detained with adults when detained by ICE, but the Trump administration embraced this policy and added on kidnapping and forced separation across the country which resembled human trafficking more than any kind of immigration policy.\nAnd yeah, Biden is reuniting people while still maintaining a policy of not letting anyone cross the border anywhere at any time for any reason. We can talk about the ethics of detaining people caught trying to cross a national border illegally, and we should. But its an entirely separate discussion from whether one should steal their kids and ship them across the country and throw away the records of where they went.",
">\n\nAnother horrifying legacy of the US.",
">\n\nStephen Miller needs to be permanently attached to this heartless decision.",
">\n\nThe damage has been done. It's literally the least we can do is give them their children back.. I can't even believe that sentence needed to be said. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nFinally, someone thought of the children",
">\n\nYet another crime that orange gasbag will never be punished for…",
">\n\nThis chapter of Trump's presidency was truly mask off evil from the party that professes that they are the party of morals and family values. Before this people could argue that they could be afforded the benefit of the doubt. I kind of knew that Republicans were trolls and bad faith actors but then after this I knew that they really have no bottom line with how low they are willing to go. Truly evil what they did to those desperate families and kids when it would have been the easiest thing in the world to just not.",
">\n\nThis is not the same war crime Russia is doing in the Ukraine. It's a completely different war crime.",
">\n\nIt's sad and despicable that this is even necessary.",
">\n\nThis post has about 670 comments. Imagine if every single one of them was a family reunion. Heartbreaking cruelty from the last administration.",
">\n\nThe Trimp administration did a lot terrible things and had plenty of awful, harmful policies. But this is one of those times when it crossed the line into literal evil.",
">\n\nI figured this was happening in the background but damn it's heartbreaking that it's taking this long because of how thoroughly Trump fucked up any semblance of process for the DHS\nLike don't get me wrong, anyone who works for ICE is and always has been a disgusting pig, but they used to be disgusting pigs bound by similar levels of US bureaucracy as the rest of the government",
">\n\nThis was a very good thing to do and the media isn’t talking about it.",
">\n\nThis needs to be bigger news",
">\n\nWhat the hell AP, it was the US under Trump too. Maybe a better headline might have been \"Biden admin reunites nearly 700...\"",
">\n\nOur bad, we did teach the kid to walk and talk, she mostly knows to say “put your hands through the bars” but still.",
">\n\nThis is news I've been waiting 6 years for.",
">\n\nWas Eric one of them?",
">\n\nI will look for you, I will find you and I will reunite you",
">\n\nLike the motherfucking handmaids tale or some shit",
">\n\nIt's nice for the country to be taking a step back towards its ideals.",
">\n\nWhy the fuck is this not plastered all over the news? This was an international outrage for years and now it’s a tiny news story thrown in on a Friday? Whomever is in charge of the WH Press Office should be ashamed.",
">\n\nNot sure what the White House Press Office could do here if outlets simply don't bother pushing the story.",
">\n\nI want to know how many are still separated.\nEverything else is not good enough.",
">\n\nYou will need to do a slight bit of math when reading the article to get the exact number but it as about a thousand remaining to be united.",
">\n\nI feel for these kids (and their parents). Many of them have been sexually assaulted because no one was there to protect them.",
">\n\nGee, Trump reminds me of Hitler for some reason. Does anyone else see a similarity? One redeeming factor is that we all know how Hitler ended up.",
">\n\nIt is a great labor to undo great evils. \nGlad it's being done.",
">\n\nHow many in total were separated? 700 is great, but if there are still 1,000s more this should also be an equal amount of new coverage.",
">\n\nThe exact counts are in the article if you want them.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if the articles were meant to be read.",
">\n\nIt’s a good start",
">\n\nIs trump a Russian spy?\nA global traitor",
">\n\nWhen will the real criminals be put in jail?",
">\n\nvery nice to see this happen and hopefully never happens again.",
">\n\nI pray the remaining children are with US family members. This was an impeachable criminal act by Trump",
">\n\nThis was by far the most evil thing his administration did.",
">\n\nNow seperate Trump from his family.",
">\n\nI mean, damage done. If I was fleeing my home in terror from economic disaster, and the place I ran to stole my fucking kid from me, and I didn’t get them back for three years?…. I mean… that dude is a terrorist now. What is left in his life except to punish this country?",
">\n\nLock him up",
">\n\nSome good news",
">\n\nThis is not enough.",
">\n\nI was kidnapped and separated from one of my parents for a week when I was young. To be separated for such a long time… The shit is going to haunt those kids for the rest of their lives and they will likely hate those who put them through this. I know this firsthand just based how lost I felt in my experience.",
">\n\nSome good news.",
">\n\nOh, well that's good news.",
">\n\nBut I was told in 2016 that Democrats were the same as Republicans.",
">\n\nI know the mods have that thing about being courteous to others blah blah blah, but fuck trump...",
">\n\nYes, but there are still an estimated 1,000 more that they can’t even find yet. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nThe headline shouldn't exist but half the country literally voted for this to happen. It's insane. Ashamed to be an American.",
">\n\nAfter the last child is reunited with family, Melania's \"I don't really care do you\" jacket will be displayed in the Smithsonian.",
">\n\n*Biden administration reunites 700 kids taken from parents under trump",
">\n\nOnly 49,300 to go.",
">\n\nThe Trump administration was monstrous. If there is such a thing as Karma this country has a lot to pay for…",
">\n\nI hope they use this to finally lock up Trump and his goons. This is disgusting and a stain on the US.",
">\n\nThe right thing to do.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\n/r/Orphancrushingmachine",
">\n\nWhy are the Republicans such pieces of shit? The whole fucking Republican Party needs to be done away with permanently.",
">\n\nIts still happening. Reuniting kids is great and all but if the same policies that separated them still exist it doesn't mean anything",
">\n\nbelongs in /r/upliftingnews!",
">\n\nHonestly it baffles me why people see “horrendous injustice addressed after long delay” and say “/r/upliftingnews”. There’s nothing uplifting about this story, everyone should be enraged.",
">\n\nEveryone is enraged all the time about everything and then go to Reddit or Twitter to make comments which does nothing.",
">\n\nAt least enraged people acknowledge the problem. Toxic positivity does less than that.",
">\n\nGood. Shame on the previous terroristic administration for the separations in the first place.",
">\n\nBut my dad won’t be talking about this. \nOnly that Biden keeps on sending money to Ukraine and his social security is going to run out. \nIt’s kind of funny at this point.",
">\n\nRemind him that his social security will run out, but you won’t get any because we don’t fucking tax the rich like we did before the 80s.",
">\n\nGOP, the party of family values",
">\n\nPutin the dwarf and Donnie the orange-haired orangutan had a lot in common.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nAlternative headline: US returns some of the kids they stole and lost",
">\n\nPeace of garbage: Trump. Hope same happens to his children and grand children",
">\n\nFrom the thumbnail, i was confused and worried . I thought I was about to read Jeff Bezos stole kids to work in Amazon warehouses or something. >_< don't act like it's unreasonable given the last 7 years.",
">\n\nBiden administration making a task force to reunite families, after being in the administration that bolstered the same organization that separated the kids is a joke lol\nI beg for Reddit to look at the bigger picture then just “trump bad, blue good”",
">\n\nYou're incorrectly conflating two issues. \nDeportations have to happen if we are going to protect our borders. But we can be compassionate while deporting people, like by not over-crowding facilities, providing basic sanitary needs, and keeping families together as a unit throughout the process.\nThe Trump administration issued a \"zero tolerance\" family seperation policy. It meant that children were seperated from their families as a matter of policy, with no concern for proper record keeping to reunite the families once a verdict in their case had been reached. The administration also allowed its facilities to overcrowd, and there are many reports of inadequate sanitary supplies. \nTheir point was cruelty.\nThe policy was rescinded as soon as the Biden administration took office.",
">\n\nWe must protect our borders!!! 🔴 “booooooooo”\nWe must protect our borders!!! 🔵 “yeahhh!!!!”\nYou do know the majority of illegal immigration is from airplanes right? You do realize ICE in general illegally block’s asylum seekers yeah? We must protect the borders!!! \nZero tolerance, but only detaining “threats” (literally anyone a government body can deem a threat, just look at our jail system) is good! Bc framing it that was makes it better",
">\n\nIts like you're trying to weaponize missing the point",
">\n\nHopefully they were reunited back in their country of origin.",
">\n\nWhy?\nWhat's wrong with people coming to this country and becoming Americans?",
">\n\nHave you seen the amount of people screaming to deport legal asylum seekers lately?\nThey're brown, and from another place. That's all it takes for conservatives to hate and fear you.",
">\n\nHow many times does it need to be said.\nMilitary Industrial Organization",
">\n\nI am a single issue voter, and this is what I voted for",
">\n\nFinally. I was starting to wonder if the Biden administration had completely forgotten about them. Let's hope that they get every child safety reunited with their families.\nAlso, we can't just stop here with immigration- we need to safely let in more refugees and asylum seekers. If we can let in ones from Ukraine, then we should be able to let in ones from Syria and other countries.",
">\n\nI thought this started in 1997?",
">\n\nThis is to indicate that Trump is such a large ass that 700 children's parents were stuck under him.",
">\n\nB(ased)iden",
">\n\nCool. What about the rest of them? What about the kids who are still missing after being taken into the internment camps ICE set up?",
">\n\nPerfect is the enemy of good.",
">\n\nGotta accept a certain level of kids in cages?",
">\n\nOk, how many are left?"
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"The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children. In 30 years from now we will be seeing documentaries about children who suffered permanent psychological damage at the hands of Trumps administration. People will be shocked to learn that the U.S. government focible took these peoples children and intentionally separated them to be cruel.",
">\n\nThe people who supported it will pretend they never knew anything about it and act shocked and disgusted.",
">\n\nThey already are claiming this did not happen or Obama did it or some other nonsense. Let me clear: Trump instituted a policy to forcibly separate children (including infants) from their legal asylum-seekng parents at the border. He did this to be cruel and scare people from coming. His minions then forgot to keep records of who the kids were.",
">\n\nI'd only argue with \"forgot.\" They intentionally didn't keep records so as to make it as difficult as possible to reunite these families. The cruelty was the point. In fact, they outright declared that they were doing this to try to dissuade people from coming to America. \"Try to seek asylum in America and we'll separate you from your kids who you'll never see again!\"",
">\n\n\"The laws are the laws\" = dead giveaway for a fascist. The law is there to serve the people. If it's not serving them, it should be changed.",
">\n\nWhat really gives away the game is politicians supporting and pushing through laws that do not have majority public support - anti-marijuana and abortion come to mind. Also the use of propaganda to try to affect levels of support for certain things.",
">\n\nA piece of legislation is almost always guaranteed to fail if it polls extremely popular with Americans on all sides. It's really sad...",
">\n\nYep, like “80% of Americans support this” and they’re uh… “oh but some discredited propaganda bullshit”. Really gives away who they are truly working for.",
">\n\nNo, they'll have their \"experts\" testify that they're correct. Then you find out the \"expert\" talking about MJ legalization is a LEO and the \"expert\" talking about abortion is a religious leader.",
">\n\nThe people who did this belong on trail for crimes against humanity at the Hague.\nActual consequences? Fuckin' crickets as usual.",
">\n\nReminder that under Bush the US granted itself permission to invade The Hague If an American citizen should ever be tried there.",
">\n\nWe should send Bush to be tried there.",
">\n\nTrump and his henchmen should be charged for these crimes. Of all of Trump's crimes, I think the concentration camps for immigrants and separating immigrants from their children were among the worst. We have to punish them or this will happen again next time they have the presidency.",
">\n\nAmerica doesn't punish Republican crimes.\n\nSource: Jan 6th",
">\n\nThe list of sources is very long.",
">\n\nIt starts at least with the Watergate. GWB never answered to war crimes or to lying to start a war. And Trump pardon the only person charged in the Valery Plane affair.",
">\n\nDidn't Nixon interfere with the peace process in Vietnam, extending the war so his opponent wouldn't get a win right before the election?",
">\n\nYep.",
">\n\nStephen Miller should be in a 6 x 9",
">\n\nAre there any cells smaller than that for that pea brained asshat?",
">\n\nThere’s a box",
">\n\nIf it fits it sits",
">\n\nThis program of separating parents from their children without documentation is going to be remembered in the same way we talk about the Syphilis Study at Tuskegee. Except that was the 1930s.\nOne of these days some of those kids are going to take their pound of flesh out of the United States either legally or violently, and they'll have right on their side.",
">\n\nnah, the fascists will have rewritten history in the US by then. Our kids will never learn about any of it unless we move.",
">\n\nPresident Ron Desantis III will remove it from the national curriculum.",
">\n\nProbably in a governor position he would still have that power",
">\n\nNever forget this was a crime against humanity. Conservatives supported it. Even your so called “moderate conservative friends”\nIf it had been your kid they wouldn’t give a fuck.\nIn 20 years people will call it a stain on our nation. But the sociopaths who enabled it are here right now.",
">\n\nThe sociopaths who enabled it are in a very good position to seize absolute control of our country, too.",
">\n\nDon’t forget that it’s the trump supporters that empowered the sociopaths.",
">\n\nIt boggles my mind how there isn't a bigger deal made of this. They stole kids from their parents. Any time it pops into my head, I'm infuriated. In a just world, Trump and his administration would be harshly punished.",
">\n\nSeriously. It is crime against HUMANITY",
">\n\nDOJ should throw kidnapping charges onto the pile of Trump crimes.",
">\n\nKidnapped. That's called kidnapping.",
">\n\nAbduction, human trafficking, genocide.\nTake your pick.",
">\n\nThis needs to be made into a drama doc, like the recent Jeffrey Dahmer series. I guarantee it would make a compelling story, and if done right, it would reach even strong trump supporters just by virtue of it's entertainment value. \nThis whole debacle was one of the cruelest things the US has done in decades, and it was done with Glee by a mentally unstable maniac and his supporters. The sooner we see it through the lens of history and regret, the better",
">\n\nWe better hurry before the republicans ban all history.",
">\n\nThis is only happening because trump never had a plan to reunite the families.\nFor those in the back. He ripped apart families with NO INTENTION OF THEM EVER BEING REUNITED.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. In order to create a situation like this, they had to have the intent to prevent the reuniting of families.",
">\n\nIt pains me to think how great this nation could be if the government didnt have to spend time and resources fixing the things republican admins did",
">\n\nIt's such an insane cycle. Conservatives fuck shit up, Dems finally get back in and spend the entire time fixing shit, conservatives run on \"look, they didn't make anything better!\", get back in to fuck shit up. Rinse and repeat.",
">\n\nExcept Dems (if they actually focus on it) are usually only able to fix 70ish% of the budgetary and humanitarian issues that were cause by the previous administration. Then when they lose reelection we slip further backwards.",
">\n\nWhat do you mean if?",
">\n\nIf they focus on repairing damage instead of squabbling with each other (which happens a lot).",
">\n\nAs a Mexican immigrant I really appreciate this",
">\n\nI just wish we had received the same support nationwide like BLM did.",
">\n\nOutraged Republicans demand to know why they were not sold to traffickers as they planned.",
">\n\nThink of all that could have been accomplished in the same time with the same effort if we didn't need them to focus on this. Every Democratic administration is hobbled by needing to undo the evils of the Republicans before them. And it doesn't go the other way because it only takes a second to wreck something, but it takes time to do things right.",
">\n\nContrarily to what the aryicle stars, they were not crossing illegaly. They came as asylum seekers, which is legal. Many (all?) of them arrived at official points of entry. These are not people who were arrested crossing the river in the middle of the night (not that it would justify taking their kids in any way).",
">\n\nOf course the Republican subs are silent on this\nFuck trump",
">\n\ngiving them all citizenship and all of their families is the least we could do for what we've done to those kids",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nThey’ll still be traumatized for the rest of their lives. Drug addiction, depression, suicides will plague these children. If there were any justice, the architects of this policy should be charged with crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nTypical go to of Christian nationalists is to steal children.",
">\n\nI guess the conservatives are ok as long it isn't their child or children.",
">\n\nI want to remind everyone here that Trump's ICE not only separated countless children from their parents, they then \"LOST\" them. Trafficked. They trafficked them. But they called them \"lost\". Then, in an absolutely astounding act of evil and affirmation of cruelty, they released the numbers to the public: 1488 lost children.\nYes. That's right. 1488, the same number literal nazis hold sacred.\nThe depth of evil and abuse and violence the right has descended to should be SO MUCH more alarming to more people. In case you think the assertion that the children were trafficked is alarmist please remember when they caught ICE transporting children without paperwork in the dead of night or keeping children in hotels without due process then sending them back to mexico with no transition process so they were essentially homeless.",
">\n\nWow. That is incredibly evil.",
">\n\nThe GOP are the Nazis come again. Time is a flat circle and most of the circle is fascism",
">\n\nNearly 75 percent is better than I expected, and they're still working. One small cause for optimism.",
">\n\nI wouldn't call it a small cause. This is pretty massive, actually following through with fixing this disgusting miscarriage of justice. I remember reading about this stuff happening and thinking that it would have to be a priority for a new administration. Glad it's being handled.",
">\n\nI remember reading this and thinking ‘holy fucking shit’, and my view on USA has not been the same since.\nThe fact Trump still got 70+ million votes after mandating/ordering this policy is insane.",
">\n\nTrump voters tend to be low information. If they even heard about this, they heard someone on Fox/Newsmax/twitter defending it or saying it was fantastic while distorting the truth about it.",
">\n\nI’d like to think they were ignorant, but somehow it all adds up. I can’t let it go.",
">\n\nNot enough, but it’s a start.",
">\n\nCrimes against humanity.",
">\n\nJesus Christ Trump was a disaster, we're just now returning the kids to their parents though?!? The damage we caused will never go away.",
">\n\nOver 2000 were returned during the Trump administration so these are part of the harder to find parents.",
">\n\nSomething tells me this will not be on many news stations tonight.",
">\n\nFinally. This is why I voted in 2020",
">\n\nI will be enraged until the headline reads ALL!",
">\n\nUnfortunately, that might never happen given that the Trump administration managed to lose track of a bunch of them. I wish I was making that up.",
">\n\nHow about the DOJ criminally prosecute the architects and others who had a hand in this heinous crime?",
">\n\n\nAccording to figures released by the Department of Homeland Security, 3,881 children were separated from their families from 2017 to 2021. About 74% of those have been reunited with their families: 2,176 before the task force was created and 689 afterward.\nBut that still leaves nearly 1,000 children. Of those, 148 are in the reunification process. The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children.\n\nUgh, close but not close enough to fixing this mistake.",
">\n\nRemember when the Trump administration claimed that it was impossible to reunite the families?",
">\n\nWhy do we always have to clean up after Republicans? Getting tiresome.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that because the separation policy was specifically designed to deter certain kinds of people from seeking asylum, these kidnappings qualify as a crime against humanity under international law.",
">\n\nA whole bunch of them were trafficked to the upper Midwest to work the overnight shift on meat packing plant floors. It was only uncovered when one of their middle school teachers called CPS because these kids were coming in with severe chemical burns on their hands and arms. And, yes - after working the overnight shift cleaning a meat processing plant floor, these kids were going to school all day. The youngest was 12.",
">\n\nOh no. Just appalling",
">\n\nBecause it’s the right thing to do. Well done. Still going to be a long road toward healing for those poor kids.",
">\n\nI'm still stunned nobody has gone to jail for this and that the US public did not draw the line at this. It is sickening.",
">\n\nWe don’t get credit for fixing our own fuckup",
">\n\nIt is SHAMEFUL how these people were treated.",
">\n\nThat is wonderful news. Trump and his administration were so evil and cruel. I can't imagine how anyone could be so heartless.",
">\n\nHow many of these kids were molested by Trump supporters? Not zero.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to think if Trump was still POTUS, these (and likely many more) kids would still be lost.",
">\n\nNot enough is made over the evil that Trump and Stephen Miller committed during this fiasco. \nObjectively horrific, vile men.",
">\n\nNever forget there was one boy who died in his own vomit for hours before someone checked up on him. My blood still seethes thinking about it.\nHis name was Carlos Gregorio Hernandez Vasquez, he was 16 from Guatemala.",
">\n\nI'm very happy to read this. That said, the fact that this ever happened (and I don't care who it happens under) is disgusting and needs to be completely stopped from happening again.",
">\n\nThis should be much bigger news",
">\n\nHow many years were these kids without their parents in a government camp?",
">\n\nClose to four years.",
">\n\nOh yea I forgot he did this, the absolute sicko",
">\n\nThis is real oppressive fascist shit, my dear Americans. Except those who should hear this either won't read this or don't have a problem with it...",
">\n\nThis probably puts SStephen Miller in the deepest of funks.",
">\n\nGenuinely good news and a step towards righting an intentionally monstrous act.",
">\n\nhow many more are there? how many were raped? how many died?",
">\n\nIt's good to see the nation moving closer to its founding principles.",
">\n\nIf this is true, it’s the only news I heard today that I give a single fuck about. Wow. YES. Keep going. 100% reunification.",
">\n\nThere are still missing children.",
">\n\nTrAnS pEoPlE aRe GrOoMiNg OuR cHiLdReN. No, there not, and your outrage would be more effective if it targeted the POS you voted for.",
">\n\nTrump reign of terror was so barbaric.",
">\n\nThing is. .....Republicans are probably unhappy about this.",
">\n\nThis definitely put a smile on my face! :)",
">\n\nUS reunites nearly 700 kids taken from parents under ~~Trump~~ the republicans.",
">\n\nSomehow trump will take credit for this. He'll say something like how much better he made those parents appreciate their children and the children their parents. Ugh.",
">\n\nbold of you to assume he'll pay any attention at all to them.",
">\n\nHow I fucking wish \"Kids in cages\" never became the misleading rallying cry against Trump when kidnapped children was the more accurate description of what the administration was doing that needed to be stopped immediately.\nHow many times have you seen some galaxy brain talk about how \"Oh nobody says 'kids in cages' anymore now that it's ok Biden is doing it!\" Yeah it was a stupid and inaccurate criticism to begin with, because any kind of policy of detaining people caught trying to cross the border illegally will fit the \"kids in cages\" meme. \nThe entire reason people got mad at Trump beyond the border wall nonsense was because he specifically ordered a family separation policy that was designed to function as a cruel deterrent to immigration. The Obama administration was forced to adopt a family separation policy because courts ruled that minors could not be detained with adults when detained by ICE, but the Trump administration embraced this policy and added on kidnapping and forced separation across the country which resembled human trafficking more than any kind of immigration policy.\nAnd yeah, Biden is reuniting people while still maintaining a policy of not letting anyone cross the border anywhere at any time for any reason. We can talk about the ethics of detaining people caught trying to cross a national border illegally, and we should. But its an entirely separate discussion from whether one should steal their kids and ship them across the country and throw away the records of where they went.",
">\n\nAnother horrifying legacy of the US.",
">\n\nStephen Miller needs to be permanently attached to this heartless decision.",
">\n\nThe damage has been done. It's literally the least we can do is give them their children back.. I can't even believe that sentence needed to be said. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nFinally, someone thought of the children",
">\n\nYet another crime that orange gasbag will never be punished for…",
">\n\nThis chapter of Trump's presidency was truly mask off evil from the party that professes that they are the party of morals and family values. Before this people could argue that they could be afforded the benefit of the doubt. I kind of knew that Republicans were trolls and bad faith actors but then after this I knew that they really have no bottom line with how low they are willing to go. Truly evil what they did to those desperate families and kids when it would have been the easiest thing in the world to just not.",
">\n\nThis is not the same war crime Russia is doing in the Ukraine. It's a completely different war crime.",
">\n\nIt's sad and despicable that this is even necessary.",
">\n\nThis post has about 670 comments. Imagine if every single one of them was a family reunion. Heartbreaking cruelty from the last administration.",
">\n\nThe Trimp administration did a lot terrible things and had plenty of awful, harmful policies. But this is one of those times when it crossed the line into literal evil.",
">\n\nI figured this was happening in the background but damn it's heartbreaking that it's taking this long because of how thoroughly Trump fucked up any semblance of process for the DHS\nLike don't get me wrong, anyone who works for ICE is and always has been a disgusting pig, but they used to be disgusting pigs bound by similar levels of US bureaucracy as the rest of the government",
">\n\nThis was a very good thing to do and the media isn’t talking about it.",
">\n\nThis needs to be bigger news",
">\n\nWhat the hell AP, it was the US under Trump too. Maybe a better headline might have been \"Biden admin reunites nearly 700...\"",
">\n\nOur bad, we did teach the kid to walk and talk, she mostly knows to say “put your hands through the bars” but still.",
">\n\nThis is news I've been waiting 6 years for.",
">\n\nWas Eric one of them?",
">\n\nI will look for you, I will find you and I will reunite you",
">\n\nLike the motherfucking handmaids tale or some shit",
">\n\nIt's nice for the country to be taking a step back towards its ideals.",
">\n\nWhy the fuck is this not plastered all over the news? This was an international outrage for years and now it’s a tiny news story thrown in on a Friday? Whomever is in charge of the WH Press Office should be ashamed.",
">\n\nNot sure what the White House Press Office could do here if outlets simply don't bother pushing the story.",
">\n\nI want to know how many are still separated.\nEverything else is not good enough.",
">\n\nYou will need to do a slight bit of math when reading the article to get the exact number but it as about a thousand remaining to be united.",
">\n\nI feel for these kids (and their parents). Many of them have been sexually assaulted because no one was there to protect them.",
">\n\nGee, Trump reminds me of Hitler for some reason. Does anyone else see a similarity? One redeeming factor is that we all know how Hitler ended up.",
">\n\nIt is a great labor to undo great evils. \nGlad it's being done.",
">\n\nHow many in total were separated? 700 is great, but if there are still 1,000s more this should also be an equal amount of new coverage.",
">\n\nThe exact counts are in the article if you want them.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if the articles were meant to be read.",
">\n\nIt’s a good start",
">\n\nIs trump a Russian spy?\nA global traitor",
">\n\nWhen will the real criminals be put in jail?",
">\n\nvery nice to see this happen and hopefully never happens again.",
">\n\nI pray the remaining children are with US family members. This was an impeachable criminal act by Trump",
">\n\nThis was by far the most evil thing his administration did.",
">\n\nNow seperate Trump from his family.",
">\n\nI mean, damage done. If I was fleeing my home in terror from economic disaster, and the place I ran to stole my fucking kid from me, and I didn’t get them back for three years?…. I mean… that dude is a terrorist now. What is left in his life except to punish this country?",
">\n\nLock him up",
">\n\nSome good news",
">\n\nThis is not enough.",
">\n\nI was kidnapped and separated from one of my parents for a week when I was young. To be separated for such a long time… The shit is going to haunt those kids for the rest of their lives and they will likely hate those who put them through this. I know this firsthand just based how lost I felt in my experience.",
">\n\nSome good news.",
">\n\nOh, well that's good news.",
">\n\nBut I was told in 2016 that Democrats were the same as Republicans.",
">\n\nI know the mods have that thing about being courteous to others blah blah blah, but fuck trump...",
">\n\nYes, but there are still an estimated 1,000 more that they can’t even find yet. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nThe headline shouldn't exist but half the country literally voted for this to happen. It's insane. Ashamed to be an American.",
">\n\nAfter the last child is reunited with family, Melania's \"I don't really care do you\" jacket will be displayed in the Smithsonian.",
">\n\n*Biden administration reunites 700 kids taken from parents under trump",
">\n\nOnly 49,300 to go.",
">\n\nThe Trump administration was monstrous. If there is such a thing as Karma this country has a lot to pay for…",
">\n\nI hope they use this to finally lock up Trump and his goons. This is disgusting and a stain on the US.",
">\n\nThe right thing to do.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\n/r/Orphancrushingmachine",
">\n\nWhy are the Republicans such pieces of shit? The whole fucking Republican Party needs to be done away with permanently.",
">\n\nIts still happening. Reuniting kids is great and all but if the same policies that separated them still exist it doesn't mean anything",
">\n\nbelongs in /r/upliftingnews!",
">\n\nHonestly it baffles me why people see “horrendous injustice addressed after long delay” and say “/r/upliftingnews”. There’s nothing uplifting about this story, everyone should be enraged.",
">\n\nEveryone is enraged all the time about everything and then go to Reddit or Twitter to make comments which does nothing.",
">\n\nAt least enraged people acknowledge the problem. Toxic positivity does less than that.",
">\n\nGood. Shame on the previous terroristic administration for the separations in the first place.",
">\n\nBut my dad won’t be talking about this. \nOnly that Biden keeps on sending money to Ukraine and his social security is going to run out. \nIt’s kind of funny at this point.",
">\n\nRemind him that his social security will run out, but you won’t get any because we don’t fucking tax the rich like we did before the 80s.",
">\n\nGOP, the party of family values",
">\n\nPutin the dwarf and Donnie the orange-haired orangutan had a lot in common.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nAlternative headline: US returns some of the kids they stole and lost",
">\n\nPeace of garbage: Trump. Hope same happens to his children and grand children",
">\n\nFrom the thumbnail, i was confused and worried . I thought I was about to read Jeff Bezos stole kids to work in Amazon warehouses or something. >_< don't act like it's unreasonable given the last 7 years.",
">\n\nBiden administration making a task force to reunite families, after being in the administration that bolstered the same organization that separated the kids is a joke lol\nI beg for Reddit to look at the bigger picture then just “trump bad, blue good”",
">\n\nYou're incorrectly conflating two issues. \nDeportations have to happen if we are going to protect our borders. But we can be compassionate while deporting people, like by not over-crowding facilities, providing basic sanitary needs, and keeping families together as a unit throughout the process.\nThe Trump administration issued a \"zero tolerance\" family seperation policy. It meant that children were seperated from their families as a matter of policy, with no concern for proper record keeping to reunite the families once a verdict in their case had been reached. The administration also allowed its facilities to overcrowd, and there are many reports of inadequate sanitary supplies. \nTheir point was cruelty.\nThe policy was rescinded as soon as the Biden administration took office.",
">\n\nWe must protect our borders!!! 🔴 “booooooooo”\nWe must protect our borders!!! 🔵 “yeahhh!!!!”\nYou do know the majority of illegal immigration is from airplanes right? You do realize ICE in general illegally block’s asylum seekers yeah? We must protect the borders!!! \nZero tolerance, but only detaining “threats” (literally anyone a government body can deem a threat, just look at our jail system) is good! Bc framing it that was makes it better",
">\n\nIts like you're trying to weaponize missing the point",
">\n\nHopefully they were reunited back in their country of origin.",
">\n\nWhy?\nWhat's wrong with people coming to this country and becoming Americans?",
">\n\nHave you seen the amount of people screaming to deport legal asylum seekers lately?\nThey're brown, and from another place. That's all it takes for conservatives to hate and fear you.",
">\n\nHow many times does it need to be said.\nMilitary Industrial Organization",
">\n\nI am a single issue voter, and this is what I voted for",
">\n\nFinally. I was starting to wonder if the Biden administration had completely forgotten about them. Let's hope that they get every child safety reunited with their families.\nAlso, we can't just stop here with immigration- we need to safely let in more refugees and asylum seekers. If we can let in ones from Ukraine, then we should be able to let in ones from Syria and other countries.",
">\n\nI thought this started in 1997?",
">\n\nThis is to indicate that Trump is such a large ass that 700 children's parents were stuck under him.",
">\n\nB(ased)iden",
">\n\nCool. What about the rest of them? What about the kids who are still missing after being taken into the internment camps ICE set up?",
">\n\nPerfect is the enemy of good.",
">\n\nGotta accept a certain level of kids in cages?",
">\n\nOk, how many are left?",
">\n\nThe article has that information."
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"The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children. In 30 years from now we will be seeing documentaries about children who suffered permanent psychological damage at the hands of Trumps administration. People will be shocked to learn that the U.S. government focible took these peoples children and intentionally separated them to be cruel.",
">\n\nThe people who supported it will pretend they never knew anything about it and act shocked and disgusted.",
">\n\nThey already are claiming this did not happen or Obama did it or some other nonsense. Let me clear: Trump instituted a policy to forcibly separate children (including infants) from their legal asylum-seekng parents at the border. He did this to be cruel and scare people from coming. His minions then forgot to keep records of who the kids were.",
">\n\nI'd only argue with \"forgot.\" They intentionally didn't keep records so as to make it as difficult as possible to reunite these families. The cruelty was the point. In fact, they outright declared that they were doing this to try to dissuade people from coming to America. \"Try to seek asylum in America and we'll separate you from your kids who you'll never see again!\"",
">\n\n\"The laws are the laws\" = dead giveaway for a fascist. The law is there to serve the people. If it's not serving them, it should be changed.",
">\n\nWhat really gives away the game is politicians supporting and pushing through laws that do not have majority public support - anti-marijuana and abortion come to mind. Also the use of propaganda to try to affect levels of support for certain things.",
">\n\nA piece of legislation is almost always guaranteed to fail if it polls extremely popular with Americans on all sides. It's really sad...",
">\n\nYep, like “80% of Americans support this” and they’re uh… “oh but some discredited propaganda bullshit”. Really gives away who they are truly working for.",
">\n\nNo, they'll have their \"experts\" testify that they're correct. Then you find out the \"expert\" talking about MJ legalization is a LEO and the \"expert\" talking about abortion is a religious leader.",
">\n\nThe people who did this belong on trail for crimes against humanity at the Hague.\nActual consequences? Fuckin' crickets as usual.",
">\n\nReminder that under Bush the US granted itself permission to invade The Hague If an American citizen should ever be tried there.",
">\n\nWe should send Bush to be tried there.",
">\n\nTrump and his henchmen should be charged for these crimes. Of all of Trump's crimes, I think the concentration camps for immigrants and separating immigrants from their children were among the worst. We have to punish them or this will happen again next time they have the presidency.",
">\n\nAmerica doesn't punish Republican crimes.\n\nSource: Jan 6th",
">\n\nThe list of sources is very long.",
">\n\nIt starts at least with the Watergate. GWB never answered to war crimes or to lying to start a war. And Trump pardon the only person charged in the Valery Plane affair.",
">\n\nDidn't Nixon interfere with the peace process in Vietnam, extending the war so his opponent wouldn't get a win right before the election?",
">\n\nYep.",
">\n\nStephen Miller should be in a 6 x 9",
">\n\nAre there any cells smaller than that for that pea brained asshat?",
">\n\nThere’s a box",
">\n\nIf it fits it sits",
">\n\nThis program of separating parents from their children without documentation is going to be remembered in the same way we talk about the Syphilis Study at Tuskegee. Except that was the 1930s.\nOne of these days some of those kids are going to take their pound of flesh out of the United States either legally or violently, and they'll have right on their side.",
">\n\nnah, the fascists will have rewritten history in the US by then. Our kids will never learn about any of it unless we move.",
">\n\nPresident Ron Desantis III will remove it from the national curriculum.",
">\n\nProbably in a governor position he would still have that power",
">\n\nNever forget this was a crime against humanity. Conservatives supported it. Even your so called “moderate conservative friends”\nIf it had been your kid they wouldn’t give a fuck.\nIn 20 years people will call it a stain on our nation. But the sociopaths who enabled it are here right now.",
">\n\nThe sociopaths who enabled it are in a very good position to seize absolute control of our country, too.",
">\n\nDon’t forget that it’s the trump supporters that empowered the sociopaths.",
">\n\nIt boggles my mind how there isn't a bigger deal made of this. They stole kids from their parents. Any time it pops into my head, I'm infuriated. In a just world, Trump and his administration would be harshly punished.",
">\n\nSeriously. It is crime against HUMANITY",
">\n\nDOJ should throw kidnapping charges onto the pile of Trump crimes.",
">\n\nKidnapped. That's called kidnapping.",
">\n\nAbduction, human trafficking, genocide.\nTake your pick.",
">\n\nThis needs to be made into a drama doc, like the recent Jeffrey Dahmer series. I guarantee it would make a compelling story, and if done right, it would reach even strong trump supporters just by virtue of it's entertainment value. \nThis whole debacle was one of the cruelest things the US has done in decades, and it was done with Glee by a mentally unstable maniac and his supporters. The sooner we see it through the lens of history and regret, the better",
">\n\nWe better hurry before the republicans ban all history.",
">\n\nThis is only happening because trump never had a plan to reunite the families.\nFor those in the back. He ripped apart families with NO INTENTION OF THEM EVER BEING REUNITED.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. In order to create a situation like this, they had to have the intent to prevent the reuniting of families.",
">\n\nIt pains me to think how great this nation could be if the government didnt have to spend time and resources fixing the things republican admins did",
">\n\nIt's such an insane cycle. Conservatives fuck shit up, Dems finally get back in and spend the entire time fixing shit, conservatives run on \"look, they didn't make anything better!\", get back in to fuck shit up. Rinse and repeat.",
">\n\nExcept Dems (if they actually focus on it) are usually only able to fix 70ish% of the budgetary and humanitarian issues that were cause by the previous administration. Then when they lose reelection we slip further backwards.",
">\n\nWhat do you mean if?",
">\n\nIf they focus on repairing damage instead of squabbling with each other (which happens a lot).",
">\n\nAs a Mexican immigrant I really appreciate this",
">\n\nI just wish we had received the same support nationwide like BLM did.",
">\n\nOutraged Republicans demand to know why they were not sold to traffickers as they planned.",
">\n\nThink of all that could have been accomplished in the same time with the same effort if we didn't need them to focus on this. Every Democratic administration is hobbled by needing to undo the evils of the Republicans before them. And it doesn't go the other way because it only takes a second to wreck something, but it takes time to do things right.",
">\n\nContrarily to what the aryicle stars, they were not crossing illegaly. They came as asylum seekers, which is legal. Many (all?) of them arrived at official points of entry. These are not people who were arrested crossing the river in the middle of the night (not that it would justify taking their kids in any way).",
">\n\nOf course the Republican subs are silent on this\nFuck trump",
">\n\ngiving them all citizenship and all of their families is the least we could do for what we've done to those kids",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nThey’ll still be traumatized for the rest of their lives. Drug addiction, depression, suicides will plague these children. If there were any justice, the architects of this policy should be charged with crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nTypical go to of Christian nationalists is to steal children.",
">\n\nI guess the conservatives are ok as long it isn't their child or children.",
">\n\nI want to remind everyone here that Trump's ICE not only separated countless children from their parents, they then \"LOST\" them. Trafficked. They trafficked them. But they called them \"lost\". Then, in an absolutely astounding act of evil and affirmation of cruelty, they released the numbers to the public: 1488 lost children.\nYes. That's right. 1488, the same number literal nazis hold sacred.\nThe depth of evil and abuse and violence the right has descended to should be SO MUCH more alarming to more people. In case you think the assertion that the children were trafficked is alarmist please remember when they caught ICE transporting children without paperwork in the dead of night or keeping children in hotels without due process then sending them back to mexico with no transition process so they were essentially homeless.",
">\n\nWow. That is incredibly evil.",
">\n\nThe GOP are the Nazis come again. Time is a flat circle and most of the circle is fascism",
">\n\nNearly 75 percent is better than I expected, and they're still working. One small cause for optimism.",
">\n\nI wouldn't call it a small cause. This is pretty massive, actually following through with fixing this disgusting miscarriage of justice. I remember reading about this stuff happening and thinking that it would have to be a priority for a new administration. Glad it's being handled.",
">\n\nI remember reading this and thinking ‘holy fucking shit’, and my view on USA has not been the same since.\nThe fact Trump still got 70+ million votes after mandating/ordering this policy is insane.",
">\n\nTrump voters tend to be low information. If they even heard about this, they heard someone on Fox/Newsmax/twitter defending it or saying it was fantastic while distorting the truth about it.",
">\n\nI’d like to think they were ignorant, but somehow it all adds up. I can’t let it go.",
">\n\nNot enough, but it’s a start.",
">\n\nCrimes against humanity.",
">\n\nJesus Christ Trump was a disaster, we're just now returning the kids to their parents though?!? The damage we caused will never go away.",
">\n\nOver 2000 were returned during the Trump administration so these are part of the harder to find parents.",
">\n\nSomething tells me this will not be on many news stations tonight.",
">\n\nFinally. This is why I voted in 2020",
">\n\nI will be enraged until the headline reads ALL!",
">\n\nUnfortunately, that might never happen given that the Trump administration managed to lose track of a bunch of them. I wish I was making that up.",
">\n\nHow about the DOJ criminally prosecute the architects and others who had a hand in this heinous crime?",
">\n\n\nAccording to figures released by the Department of Homeland Security, 3,881 children were separated from their families from 2017 to 2021. About 74% of those have been reunited with their families: 2,176 before the task force was created and 689 afterward.\nBut that still leaves nearly 1,000 children. Of those, 148 are in the reunification process. The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children.\n\nUgh, close but not close enough to fixing this mistake.",
">\n\nRemember when the Trump administration claimed that it was impossible to reunite the families?",
">\n\nWhy do we always have to clean up after Republicans? Getting tiresome.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that because the separation policy was specifically designed to deter certain kinds of people from seeking asylum, these kidnappings qualify as a crime against humanity under international law.",
">\n\nA whole bunch of them were trafficked to the upper Midwest to work the overnight shift on meat packing plant floors. It was only uncovered when one of their middle school teachers called CPS because these kids were coming in with severe chemical burns on their hands and arms. And, yes - after working the overnight shift cleaning a meat processing plant floor, these kids were going to school all day. The youngest was 12.",
">\n\nOh no. Just appalling",
">\n\nBecause it’s the right thing to do. Well done. Still going to be a long road toward healing for those poor kids.",
">\n\nI'm still stunned nobody has gone to jail for this and that the US public did not draw the line at this. It is sickening.",
">\n\nWe don’t get credit for fixing our own fuckup",
">\n\nIt is SHAMEFUL how these people were treated.",
">\n\nThat is wonderful news. Trump and his administration were so evil and cruel. I can't imagine how anyone could be so heartless.",
">\n\nHow many of these kids were molested by Trump supporters? Not zero.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to think if Trump was still POTUS, these (and likely many more) kids would still be lost.",
">\n\nNot enough is made over the evil that Trump and Stephen Miller committed during this fiasco. \nObjectively horrific, vile men.",
">\n\nNever forget there was one boy who died in his own vomit for hours before someone checked up on him. My blood still seethes thinking about it.\nHis name was Carlos Gregorio Hernandez Vasquez, he was 16 from Guatemala.",
">\n\nI'm very happy to read this. That said, the fact that this ever happened (and I don't care who it happens under) is disgusting and needs to be completely stopped from happening again.",
">\n\nThis should be much bigger news",
">\n\nHow many years were these kids without their parents in a government camp?",
">\n\nClose to four years.",
">\n\nOh yea I forgot he did this, the absolute sicko",
">\n\nThis is real oppressive fascist shit, my dear Americans. Except those who should hear this either won't read this or don't have a problem with it...",
">\n\nThis probably puts SStephen Miller in the deepest of funks.",
">\n\nGenuinely good news and a step towards righting an intentionally monstrous act.",
">\n\nhow many more are there? how many were raped? how many died?",
">\n\nIt's good to see the nation moving closer to its founding principles.",
">\n\nIf this is true, it’s the only news I heard today that I give a single fuck about. Wow. YES. Keep going. 100% reunification.",
">\n\nThere are still missing children.",
">\n\nTrAnS pEoPlE aRe GrOoMiNg OuR cHiLdReN. No, there not, and your outrage would be more effective if it targeted the POS you voted for.",
">\n\nTrump reign of terror was so barbaric.",
">\n\nThing is. .....Republicans are probably unhappy about this.",
">\n\nThis definitely put a smile on my face! :)",
">\n\nUS reunites nearly 700 kids taken from parents under ~~Trump~~ the republicans.",
">\n\nSomehow trump will take credit for this. He'll say something like how much better he made those parents appreciate their children and the children their parents. Ugh.",
">\n\nbold of you to assume he'll pay any attention at all to them.",
">\n\nHow I fucking wish \"Kids in cages\" never became the misleading rallying cry against Trump when kidnapped children was the more accurate description of what the administration was doing that needed to be stopped immediately.\nHow many times have you seen some galaxy brain talk about how \"Oh nobody says 'kids in cages' anymore now that it's ok Biden is doing it!\" Yeah it was a stupid and inaccurate criticism to begin with, because any kind of policy of detaining people caught trying to cross the border illegally will fit the \"kids in cages\" meme. \nThe entire reason people got mad at Trump beyond the border wall nonsense was because he specifically ordered a family separation policy that was designed to function as a cruel deterrent to immigration. The Obama administration was forced to adopt a family separation policy because courts ruled that minors could not be detained with adults when detained by ICE, but the Trump administration embraced this policy and added on kidnapping and forced separation across the country which resembled human trafficking more than any kind of immigration policy.\nAnd yeah, Biden is reuniting people while still maintaining a policy of not letting anyone cross the border anywhere at any time for any reason. We can talk about the ethics of detaining people caught trying to cross a national border illegally, and we should. But its an entirely separate discussion from whether one should steal their kids and ship them across the country and throw away the records of where they went.",
">\n\nAnother horrifying legacy of the US.",
">\n\nStephen Miller needs to be permanently attached to this heartless decision.",
">\n\nThe damage has been done. It's literally the least we can do is give them their children back.. I can't even believe that sentence needed to be said. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nFinally, someone thought of the children",
">\n\nYet another crime that orange gasbag will never be punished for…",
">\n\nThis chapter of Trump's presidency was truly mask off evil from the party that professes that they are the party of morals and family values. Before this people could argue that they could be afforded the benefit of the doubt. I kind of knew that Republicans were trolls and bad faith actors but then after this I knew that they really have no bottom line with how low they are willing to go. Truly evil what they did to those desperate families and kids when it would have been the easiest thing in the world to just not.",
">\n\nThis is not the same war crime Russia is doing in the Ukraine. It's a completely different war crime.",
">\n\nIt's sad and despicable that this is even necessary.",
">\n\nThis post has about 670 comments. Imagine if every single one of them was a family reunion. Heartbreaking cruelty from the last administration.",
">\n\nThe Trimp administration did a lot terrible things and had plenty of awful, harmful policies. But this is one of those times when it crossed the line into literal evil.",
">\n\nI figured this was happening in the background but damn it's heartbreaking that it's taking this long because of how thoroughly Trump fucked up any semblance of process for the DHS\nLike don't get me wrong, anyone who works for ICE is and always has been a disgusting pig, but they used to be disgusting pigs bound by similar levels of US bureaucracy as the rest of the government",
">\n\nThis was a very good thing to do and the media isn’t talking about it.",
">\n\nThis needs to be bigger news",
">\n\nWhat the hell AP, it was the US under Trump too. Maybe a better headline might have been \"Biden admin reunites nearly 700...\"",
">\n\nOur bad, we did teach the kid to walk and talk, she mostly knows to say “put your hands through the bars” but still.",
">\n\nThis is news I've been waiting 6 years for.",
">\n\nWas Eric one of them?",
">\n\nI will look for you, I will find you and I will reunite you",
">\n\nLike the motherfucking handmaids tale or some shit",
">\n\nIt's nice for the country to be taking a step back towards its ideals.",
">\n\nWhy the fuck is this not plastered all over the news? This was an international outrage for years and now it’s a tiny news story thrown in on a Friday? Whomever is in charge of the WH Press Office should be ashamed.",
">\n\nNot sure what the White House Press Office could do here if outlets simply don't bother pushing the story.",
">\n\nI want to know how many are still separated.\nEverything else is not good enough.",
">\n\nYou will need to do a slight bit of math when reading the article to get the exact number but it as about a thousand remaining to be united.",
">\n\nI feel for these kids (and their parents). Many of them have been sexually assaulted because no one was there to protect them.",
">\n\nGee, Trump reminds me of Hitler for some reason. Does anyone else see a similarity? One redeeming factor is that we all know how Hitler ended up.",
">\n\nIt is a great labor to undo great evils. \nGlad it's being done.",
">\n\nHow many in total were separated? 700 is great, but if there are still 1,000s more this should also be an equal amount of new coverage.",
">\n\nThe exact counts are in the article if you want them.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if the articles were meant to be read.",
">\n\nIt’s a good start",
">\n\nIs trump a Russian spy?\nA global traitor",
">\n\nWhen will the real criminals be put in jail?",
">\n\nvery nice to see this happen and hopefully never happens again.",
">\n\nI pray the remaining children are with US family members. This was an impeachable criminal act by Trump",
">\n\nThis was by far the most evil thing his administration did.",
">\n\nNow seperate Trump from his family.",
">\n\nI mean, damage done. If I was fleeing my home in terror from economic disaster, and the place I ran to stole my fucking kid from me, and I didn’t get them back for three years?…. I mean… that dude is a terrorist now. What is left in his life except to punish this country?",
">\n\nLock him up",
">\n\nSome good news",
">\n\nThis is not enough.",
">\n\nI was kidnapped and separated from one of my parents for a week when I was young. To be separated for such a long time… The shit is going to haunt those kids for the rest of their lives and they will likely hate those who put them through this. I know this firsthand just based how lost I felt in my experience.",
">\n\nSome good news.",
">\n\nOh, well that's good news.",
">\n\nBut I was told in 2016 that Democrats were the same as Republicans.",
">\n\nI know the mods have that thing about being courteous to others blah blah blah, but fuck trump...",
">\n\nYes, but there are still an estimated 1,000 more that they can’t even find yet. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nThe headline shouldn't exist but half the country literally voted for this to happen. It's insane. Ashamed to be an American.",
">\n\nAfter the last child is reunited with family, Melania's \"I don't really care do you\" jacket will be displayed in the Smithsonian.",
">\n\n*Biden administration reunites 700 kids taken from parents under trump",
">\n\nOnly 49,300 to go.",
">\n\nThe Trump administration was monstrous. If there is such a thing as Karma this country has a lot to pay for…",
">\n\nI hope they use this to finally lock up Trump and his goons. This is disgusting and a stain on the US.",
">\n\nThe right thing to do.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\n/r/Orphancrushingmachine",
">\n\nWhy are the Republicans such pieces of shit? The whole fucking Republican Party needs to be done away with permanently.",
">\n\nIts still happening. Reuniting kids is great and all but if the same policies that separated them still exist it doesn't mean anything",
">\n\nbelongs in /r/upliftingnews!",
">\n\nHonestly it baffles me why people see “horrendous injustice addressed after long delay” and say “/r/upliftingnews”. There’s nothing uplifting about this story, everyone should be enraged.",
">\n\nEveryone is enraged all the time about everything and then go to Reddit or Twitter to make comments which does nothing.",
">\n\nAt least enraged people acknowledge the problem. Toxic positivity does less than that.",
">\n\nGood. Shame on the previous terroristic administration for the separations in the first place.",
">\n\nBut my dad won’t be talking about this. \nOnly that Biden keeps on sending money to Ukraine and his social security is going to run out. \nIt’s kind of funny at this point.",
">\n\nRemind him that his social security will run out, but you won’t get any because we don’t fucking tax the rich like we did before the 80s.",
">\n\nGOP, the party of family values",
">\n\nPutin the dwarf and Donnie the orange-haired orangutan had a lot in common.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nAlternative headline: US returns some of the kids they stole and lost",
">\n\nPeace of garbage: Trump. Hope same happens to his children and grand children",
">\n\nFrom the thumbnail, i was confused and worried . I thought I was about to read Jeff Bezos stole kids to work in Amazon warehouses or something. >_< don't act like it's unreasonable given the last 7 years.",
">\n\nBiden administration making a task force to reunite families, after being in the administration that bolstered the same organization that separated the kids is a joke lol\nI beg for Reddit to look at the bigger picture then just “trump bad, blue good”",
">\n\nYou're incorrectly conflating two issues. \nDeportations have to happen if we are going to protect our borders. But we can be compassionate while deporting people, like by not over-crowding facilities, providing basic sanitary needs, and keeping families together as a unit throughout the process.\nThe Trump administration issued a \"zero tolerance\" family seperation policy. It meant that children were seperated from their families as a matter of policy, with no concern for proper record keeping to reunite the families once a verdict in their case had been reached. The administration also allowed its facilities to overcrowd, and there are many reports of inadequate sanitary supplies. \nTheir point was cruelty.\nThe policy was rescinded as soon as the Biden administration took office.",
">\n\nWe must protect our borders!!! 🔴 “booooooooo”\nWe must protect our borders!!! 🔵 “yeahhh!!!!”\nYou do know the majority of illegal immigration is from airplanes right? You do realize ICE in general illegally block’s asylum seekers yeah? We must protect the borders!!! \nZero tolerance, but only detaining “threats” (literally anyone a government body can deem a threat, just look at our jail system) is good! Bc framing it that was makes it better",
">\n\nIts like you're trying to weaponize missing the point",
">\n\nHopefully they were reunited back in their country of origin.",
">\n\nWhy?\nWhat's wrong with people coming to this country and becoming Americans?",
">\n\nHave you seen the amount of people screaming to deport legal asylum seekers lately?\nThey're brown, and from another place. That's all it takes for conservatives to hate and fear you.",
">\n\nHow many times does it need to be said.\nMilitary Industrial Organization",
">\n\nI am a single issue voter, and this is what I voted for",
">\n\nFinally. I was starting to wonder if the Biden administration had completely forgotten about them. Let's hope that they get every child safety reunited with their families.\nAlso, we can't just stop here with immigration- we need to safely let in more refugees and asylum seekers. If we can let in ones from Ukraine, then we should be able to let in ones from Syria and other countries.",
">\n\nI thought this started in 1997?",
">\n\nThis is to indicate that Trump is such a large ass that 700 children's parents were stuck under him.",
">\n\nB(ased)iden",
">\n\nCool. What about the rest of them? What about the kids who are still missing after being taken into the internment camps ICE set up?",
">\n\nPerfect is the enemy of good.",
">\n\nGotta accept a certain level of kids in cages?",
">\n\nOk, how many are left?",
">\n\nThe article has that information.",
">\n\nIt was more under biden. And even more under obama"
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"The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children. In 30 years from now we will be seeing documentaries about children who suffered permanent psychological damage at the hands of Trumps administration. People will be shocked to learn that the U.S. government focible took these peoples children and intentionally separated them to be cruel.",
">\n\nThe people who supported it will pretend they never knew anything about it and act shocked and disgusted.",
">\n\nThey already are claiming this did not happen or Obama did it or some other nonsense. Let me clear: Trump instituted a policy to forcibly separate children (including infants) from their legal asylum-seekng parents at the border. He did this to be cruel and scare people from coming. His minions then forgot to keep records of who the kids were.",
">\n\nI'd only argue with \"forgot.\" They intentionally didn't keep records so as to make it as difficult as possible to reunite these families. The cruelty was the point. In fact, they outright declared that they were doing this to try to dissuade people from coming to America. \"Try to seek asylum in America and we'll separate you from your kids who you'll never see again!\"",
">\n\n\"The laws are the laws\" = dead giveaway for a fascist. The law is there to serve the people. If it's not serving them, it should be changed.",
">\n\nWhat really gives away the game is politicians supporting and pushing through laws that do not have majority public support - anti-marijuana and abortion come to mind. Also the use of propaganda to try to affect levels of support for certain things.",
">\n\nA piece of legislation is almost always guaranteed to fail if it polls extremely popular with Americans on all sides. It's really sad...",
">\n\nYep, like “80% of Americans support this” and they’re uh… “oh but some discredited propaganda bullshit”. Really gives away who they are truly working for.",
">\n\nNo, they'll have their \"experts\" testify that they're correct. Then you find out the \"expert\" talking about MJ legalization is a LEO and the \"expert\" talking about abortion is a religious leader.",
">\n\nThe people who did this belong on trail for crimes against humanity at the Hague.\nActual consequences? Fuckin' crickets as usual.",
">\n\nReminder that under Bush the US granted itself permission to invade The Hague If an American citizen should ever be tried there.",
">\n\nWe should send Bush to be tried there.",
">\n\nTrump and his henchmen should be charged for these crimes. Of all of Trump's crimes, I think the concentration camps for immigrants and separating immigrants from their children were among the worst. We have to punish them or this will happen again next time they have the presidency.",
">\n\nAmerica doesn't punish Republican crimes.\n\nSource: Jan 6th",
">\n\nThe list of sources is very long.",
">\n\nIt starts at least with the Watergate. GWB never answered to war crimes or to lying to start a war. And Trump pardon the only person charged in the Valery Plane affair.",
">\n\nDidn't Nixon interfere with the peace process in Vietnam, extending the war so his opponent wouldn't get a win right before the election?",
">\n\nYep.",
">\n\nStephen Miller should be in a 6 x 9",
">\n\nAre there any cells smaller than that for that pea brained asshat?",
">\n\nThere’s a box",
">\n\nIf it fits it sits",
">\n\nThis program of separating parents from their children without documentation is going to be remembered in the same way we talk about the Syphilis Study at Tuskegee. Except that was the 1930s.\nOne of these days some of those kids are going to take their pound of flesh out of the United States either legally or violently, and they'll have right on their side.",
">\n\nnah, the fascists will have rewritten history in the US by then. Our kids will never learn about any of it unless we move.",
">\n\nPresident Ron Desantis III will remove it from the national curriculum.",
">\n\nProbably in a governor position he would still have that power",
">\n\nNever forget this was a crime against humanity. Conservatives supported it. Even your so called “moderate conservative friends”\nIf it had been your kid they wouldn’t give a fuck.\nIn 20 years people will call it a stain on our nation. But the sociopaths who enabled it are here right now.",
">\n\nThe sociopaths who enabled it are in a very good position to seize absolute control of our country, too.",
">\n\nDon’t forget that it’s the trump supporters that empowered the sociopaths.",
">\n\nIt boggles my mind how there isn't a bigger deal made of this. They stole kids from their parents. Any time it pops into my head, I'm infuriated. In a just world, Trump and his administration would be harshly punished.",
">\n\nSeriously. It is crime against HUMANITY",
">\n\nDOJ should throw kidnapping charges onto the pile of Trump crimes.",
">\n\nKidnapped. That's called kidnapping.",
">\n\nAbduction, human trafficking, genocide.\nTake your pick.",
">\n\nThis needs to be made into a drama doc, like the recent Jeffrey Dahmer series. I guarantee it would make a compelling story, and if done right, it would reach even strong trump supporters just by virtue of it's entertainment value. \nThis whole debacle was one of the cruelest things the US has done in decades, and it was done with Glee by a mentally unstable maniac and his supporters. The sooner we see it through the lens of history and regret, the better",
">\n\nWe better hurry before the republicans ban all history.",
">\n\nThis is only happening because trump never had a plan to reunite the families.\nFor those in the back. He ripped apart families with NO INTENTION OF THEM EVER BEING REUNITED.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. In order to create a situation like this, they had to have the intent to prevent the reuniting of families.",
">\n\nIt pains me to think how great this nation could be if the government didnt have to spend time and resources fixing the things republican admins did",
">\n\nIt's such an insane cycle. Conservatives fuck shit up, Dems finally get back in and spend the entire time fixing shit, conservatives run on \"look, they didn't make anything better!\", get back in to fuck shit up. Rinse and repeat.",
">\n\nExcept Dems (if they actually focus on it) are usually only able to fix 70ish% of the budgetary and humanitarian issues that were cause by the previous administration. Then when they lose reelection we slip further backwards.",
">\n\nWhat do you mean if?",
">\n\nIf they focus on repairing damage instead of squabbling with each other (which happens a lot).",
">\n\nAs a Mexican immigrant I really appreciate this",
">\n\nI just wish we had received the same support nationwide like BLM did.",
">\n\nOutraged Republicans demand to know why they were not sold to traffickers as they planned.",
">\n\nThink of all that could have been accomplished in the same time with the same effort if we didn't need them to focus on this. Every Democratic administration is hobbled by needing to undo the evils of the Republicans before them. And it doesn't go the other way because it only takes a second to wreck something, but it takes time to do things right.",
">\n\nContrarily to what the aryicle stars, they were not crossing illegaly. They came as asylum seekers, which is legal. Many (all?) of them arrived at official points of entry. These are not people who were arrested crossing the river in the middle of the night (not that it would justify taking their kids in any way).",
">\n\nOf course the Republican subs are silent on this\nFuck trump",
">\n\ngiving them all citizenship and all of their families is the least we could do for what we've done to those kids",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nThey’ll still be traumatized for the rest of their lives. Drug addiction, depression, suicides will plague these children. If there were any justice, the architects of this policy should be charged with crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nTypical go to of Christian nationalists is to steal children.",
">\n\nI guess the conservatives are ok as long it isn't their child or children.",
">\n\nI want to remind everyone here that Trump's ICE not only separated countless children from their parents, they then \"LOST\" them. Trafficked. They trafficked them. But they called them \"lost\". Then, in an absolutely astounding act of evil and affirmation of cruelty, they released the numbers to the public: 1488 lost children.\nYes. That's right. 1488, the same number literal nazis hold sacred.\nThe depth of evil and abuse and violence the right has descended to should be SO MUCH more alarming to more people. In case you think the assertion that the children were trafficked is alarmist please remember when they caught ICE transporting children without paperwork in the dead of night or keeping children in hotels without due process then sending them back to mexico with no transition process so they were essentially homeless.",
">\n\nWow. That is incredibly evil.",
">\n\nThe GOP are the Nazis come again. Time is a flat circle and most of the circle is fascism",
">\n\nNearly 75 percent is better than I expected, and they're still working. One small cause for optimism.",
">\n\nI wouldn't call it a small cause. This is pretty massive, actually following through with fixing this disgusting miscarriage of justice. I remember reading about this stuff happening and thinking that it would have to be a priority for a new administration. Glad it's being handled.",
">\n\nI remember reading this and thinking ‘holy fucking shit’, and my view on USA has not been the same since.\nThe fact Trump still got 70+ million votes after mandating/ordering this policy is insane.",
">\n\nTrump voters tend to be low information. If they even heard about this, they heard someone on Fox/Newsmax/twitter defending it or saying it was fantastic while distorting the truth about it.",
">\n\nI’d like to think they were ignorant, but somehow it all adds up. I can’t let it go.",
">\n\nNot enough, but it’s a start.",
">\n\nCrimes against humanity.",
">\n\nJesus Christ Trump was a disaster, we're just now returning the kids to their parents though?!? The damage we caused will never go away.",
">\n\nOver 2000 were returned during the Trump administration so these are part of the harder to find parents.",
">\n\nSomething tells me this will not be on many news stations tonight.",
">\n\nFinally. This is why I voted in 2020",
">\n\nI will be enraged until the headline reads ALL!",
">\n\nUnfortunately, that might never happen given that the Trump administration managed to lose track of a bunch of them. I wish I was making that up.",
">\n\nHow about the DOJ criminally prosecute the architects and others who had a hand in this heinous crime?",
">\n\n\nAccording to figures released by the Department of Homeland Security, 3,881 children were separated from their families from 2017 to 2021. About 74% of those have been reunited with their families: 2,176 before the task force was created and 689 afterward.\nBut that still leaves nearly 1,000 children. Of those, 148 are in the reunification process. The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children.\n\nUgh, close but not close enough to fixing this mistake.",
">\n\nRemember when the Trump administration claimed that it was impossible to reunite the families?",
">\n\nWhy do we always have to clean up after Republicans? Getting tiresome.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that because the separation policy was specifically designed to deter certain kinds of people from seeking asylum, these kidnappings qualify as a crime against humanity under international law.",
">\n\nA whole bunch of them were trafficked to the upper Midwest to work the overnight shift on meat packing plant floors. It was only uncovered when one of their middle school teachers called CPS because these kids were coming in with severe chemical burns on their hands and arms. And, yes - after working the overnight shift cleaning a meat processing plant floor, these kids were going to school all day. The youngest was 12.",
">\n\nOh no. Just appalling",
">\n\nBecause it’s the right thing to do. Well done. Still going to be a long road toward healing for those poor kids.",
">\n\nI'm still stunned nobody has gone to jail for this and that the US public did not draw the line at this. It is sickening.",
">\n\nWe don’t get credit for fixing our own fuckup",
">\n\nIt is SHAMEFUL how these people were treated.",
">\n\nThat is wonderful news. Trump and his administration were so evil and cruel. I can't imagine how anyone could be so heartless.",
">\n\nHow many of these kids were molested by Trump supporters? Not zero.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to think if Trump was still POTUS, these (and likely many more) kids would still be lost.",
">\n\nNot enough is made over the evil that Trump and Stephen Miller committed during this fiasco. \nObjectively horrific, vile men.",
">\n\nNever forget there was one boy who died in his own vomit for hours before someone checked up on him. My blood still seethes thinking about it.\nHis name was Carlos Gregorio Hernandez Vasquez, he was 16 from Guatemala.",
">\n\nI'm very happy to read this. That said, the fact that this ever happened (and I don't care who it happens under) is disgusting and needs to be completely stopped from happening again.",
">\n\nThis should be much bigger news",
">\n\nHow many years were these kids without their parents in a government camp?",
">\n\nClose to four years.",
">\n\nOh yea I forgot he did this, the absolute sicko",
">\n\nThis is real oppressive fascist shit, my dear Americans. Except those who should hear this either won't read this or don't have a problem with it...",
">\n\nThis probably puts SStephen Miller in the deepest of funks.",
">\n\nGenuinely good news and a step towards righting an intentionally monstrous act.",
">\n\nhow many more are there? how many were raped? how many died?",
">\n\nIt's good to see the nation moving closer to its founding principles.",
">\n\nIf this is true, it’s the only news I heard today that I give a single fuck about. Wow. YES. Keep going. 100% reunification.",
">\n\nThere are still missing children.",
">\n\nTrAnS pEoPlE aRe GrOoMiNg OuR cHiLdReN. No, there not, and your outrage would be more effective if it targeted the POS you voted for.",
">\n\nTrump reign of terror was so barbaric.",
">\n\nThing is. .....Republicans are probably unhappy about this.",
">\n\nThis definitely put a smile on my face! :)",
">\n\nUS reunites nearly 700 kids taken from parents under ~~Trump~~ the republicans.",
">\n\nSomehow trump will take credit for this. He'll say something like how much better he made those parents appreciate their children and the children their parents. Ugh.",
">\n\nbold of you to assume he'll pay any attention at all to them.",
">\n\nHow I fucking wish \"Kids in cages\" never became the misleading rallying cry against Trump when kidnapped children was the more accurate description of what the administration was doing that needed to be stopped immediately.\nHow many times have you seen some galaxy brain talk about how \"Oh nobody says 'kids in cages' anymore now that it's ok Biden is doing it!\" Yeah it was a stupid and inaccurate criticism to begin with, because any kind of policy of detaining people caught trying to cross the border illegally will fit the \"kids in cages\" meme. \nThe entire reason people got mad at Trump beyond the border wall nonsense was because he specifically ordered a family separation policy that was designed to function as a cruel deterrent to immigration. The Obama administration was forced to adopt a family separation policy because courts ruled that minors could not be detained with adults when detained by ICE, but the Trump administration embraced this policy and added on kidnapping and forced separation across the country which resembled human trafficking more than any kind of immigration policy.\nAnd yeah, Biden is reuniting people while still maintaining a policy of not letting anyone cross the border anywhere at any time for any reason. We can talk about the ethics of detaining people caught trying to cross a national border illegally, and we should. But its an entirely separate discussion from whether one should steal their kids and ship them across the country and throw away the records of where they went.",
">\n\nAnother horrifying legacy of the US.",
">\n\nStephen Miller needs to be permanently attached to this heartless decision.",
">\n\nThe damage has been done. It's literally the least we can do is give them their children back.. I can't even believe that sentence needed to be said. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nFinally, someone thought of the children",
">\n\nYet another crime that orange gasbag will never be punished for…",
">\n\nThis chapter of Trump's presidency was truly mask off evil from the party that professes that they are the party of morals and family values. Before this people could argue that they could be afforded the benefit of the doubt. I kind of knew that Republicans were trolls and bad faith actors but then after this I knew that they really have no bottom line with how low they are willing to go. Truly evil what they did to those desperate families and kids when it would have been the easiest thing in the world to just not.",
">\n\nThis is not the same war crime Russia is doing in the Ukraine. It's a completely different war crime.",
">\n\nIt's sad and despicable that this is even necessary.",
">\n\nThis post has about 670 comments. Imagine if every single one of them was a family reunion. Heartbreaking cruelty from the last administration.",
">\n\nThe Trimp administration did a lot terrible things and had plenty of awful, harmful policies. But this is one of those times when it crossed the line into literal evil.",
">\n\nI figured this was happening in the background but damn it's heartbreaking that it's taking this long because of how thoroughly Trump fucked up any semblance of process for the DHS\nLike don't get me wrong, anyone who works for ICE is and always has been a disgusting pig, but they used to be disgusting pigs bound by similar levels of US bureaucracy as the rest of the government",
">\n\nThis was a very good thing to do and the media isn’t talking about it.",
">\n\nThis needs to be bigger news",
">\n\nWhat the hell AP, it was the US under Trump too. Maybe a better headline might have been \"Biden admin reunites nearly 700...\"",
">\n\nOur bad, we did teach the kid to walk and talk, she mostly knows to say “put your hands through the bars” but still.",
">\n\nThis is news I've been waiting 6 years for.",
">\n\nWas Eric one of them?",
">\n\nI will look for you, I will find you and I will reunite you",
">\n\nLike the motherfucking handmaids tale or some shit",
">\n\nIt's nice for the country to be taking a step back towards its ideals.",
">\n\nWhy the fuck is this not plastered all over the news? This was an international outrage for years and now it’s a tiny news story thrown in on a Friday? Whomever is in charge of the WH Press Office should be ashamed.",
">\n\nNot sure what the White House Press Office could do here if outlets simply don't bother pushing the story.",
">\n\nI want to know how many are still separated.\nEverything else is not good enough.",
">\n\nYou will need to do a slight bit of math when reading the article to get the exact number but it as about a thousand remaining to be united.",
">\n\nI feel for these kids (and their parents). Many of them have been sexually assaulted because no one was there to protect them.",
">\n\nGee, Trump reminds me of Hitler for some reason. Does anyone else see a similarity? One redeeming factor is that we all know how Hitler ended up.",
">\n\nIt is a great labor to undo great evils. \nGlad it's being done.",
">\n\nHow many in total were separated? 700 is great, but if there are still 1,000s more this should also be an equal amount of new coverage.",
">\n\nThe exact counts are in the article if you want them.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if the articles were meant to be read.",
">\n\nIt’s a good start",
">\n\nIs trump a Russian spy?\nA global traitor",
">\n\nWhen will the real criminals be put in jail?",
">\n\nvery nice to see this happen and hopefully never happens again.",
">\n\nI pray the remaining children are with US family members. This was an impeachable criminal act by Trump",
">\n\nThis was by far the most evil thing his administration did.",
">\n\nNow seperate Trump from his family.",
">\n\nI mean, damage done. If I was fleeing my home in terror from economic disaster, and the place I ran to stole my fucking kid from me, and I didn’t get them back for three years?…. I mean… that dude is a terrorist now. What is left in his life except to punish this country?",
">\n\nLock him up",
">\n\nSome good news",
">\n\nThis is not enough.",
">\n\nI was kidnapped and separated from one of my parents for a week when I was young. To be separated for such a long time… The shit is going to haunt those kids for the rest of their lives and they will likely hate those who put them through this. I know this firsthand just based how lost I felt in my experience.",
">\n\nSome good news.",
">\n\nOh, well that's good news.",
">\n\nBut I was told in 2016 that Democrats were the same as Republicans.",
">\n\nI know the mods have that thing about being courteous to others blah blah blah, but fuck trump...",
">\n\nYes, but there are still an estimated 1,000 more that they can’t even find yet. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nThe headline shouldn't exist but half the country literally voted for this to happen. It's insane. Ashamed to be an American.",
">\n\nAfter the last child is reunited with family, Melania's \"I don't really care do you\" jacket will be displayed in the Smithsonian.",
">\n\n*Biden administration reunites 700 kids taken from parents under trump",
">\n\nOnly 49,300 to go.",
">\n\nThe Trump administration was monstrous. If there is such a thing as Karma this country has a lot to pay for…",
">\n\nI hope they use this to finally lock up Trump and his goons. This is disgusting and a stain on the US.",
">\n\nThe right thing to do.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\n/r/Orphancrushingmachine",
">\n\nWhy are the Republicans such pieces of shit? The whole fucking Republican Party needs to be done away with permanently.",
">\n\nIts still happening. Reuniting kids is great and all but if the same policies that separated them still exist it doesn't mean anything",
">\n\nbelongs in /r/upliftingnews!",
">\n\nHonestly it baffles me why people see “horrendous injustice addressed after long delay” and say “/r/upliftingnews”. There’s nothing uplifting about this story, everyone should be enraged.",
">\n\nEveryone is enraged all the time about everything and then go to Reddit or Twitter to make comments which does nothing.",
">\n\nAt least enraged people acknowledge the problem. Toxic positivity does less than that.",
">\n\nGood. Shame on the previous terroristic administration for the separations in the first place.",
">\n\nBut my dad won’t be talking about this. \nOnly that Biden keeps on sending money to Ukraine and his social security is going to run out. \nIt’s kind of funny at this point.",
">\n\nRemind him that his social security will run out, but you won’t get any because we don’t fucking tax the rich like we did before the 80s.",
">\n\nGOP, the party of family values",
">\n\nPutin the dwarf and Donnie the orange-haired orangutan had a lot in common.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nAlternative headline: US returns some of the kids they stole and lost",
">\n\nPeace of garbage: Trump. Hope same happens to his children and grand children",
">\n\nFrom the thumbnail, i was confused and worried . I thought I was about to read Jeff Bezos stole kids to work in Amazon warehouses or something. >_< don't act like it's unreasonable given the last 7 years.",
">\n\nBiden administration making a task force to reunite families, after being in the administration that bolstered the same organization that separated the kids is a joke lol\nI beg for Reddit to look at the bigger picture then just “trump bad, blue good”",
">\n\nYou're incorrectly conflating two issues. \nDeportations have to happen if we are going to protect our borders. But we can be compassionate while deporting people, like by not over-crowding facilities, providing basic sanitary needs, and keeping families together as a unit throughout the process.\nThe Trump administration issued a \"zero tolerance\" family seperation policy. It meant that children were seperated from their families as a matter of policy, with no concern for proper record keeping to reunite the families once a verdict in their case had been reached. The administration also allowed its facilities to overcrowd, and there are many reports of inadequate sanitary supplies. \nTheir point was cruelty.\nThe policy was rescinded as soon as the Biden administration took office.",
">\n\nWe must protect our borders!!! 🔴 “booooooooo”\nWe must protect our borders!!! 🔵 “yeahhh!!!!”\nYou do know the majority of illegal immigration is from airplanes right? You do realize ICE in general illegally block’s asylum seekers yeah? We must protect the borders!!! \nZero tolerance, but only detaining “threats” (literally anyone a government body can deem a threat, just look at our jail system) is good! Bc framing it that was makes it better",
">\n\nIts like you're trying to weaponize missing the point",
">\n\nHopefully they were reunited back in their country of origin.",
">\n\nWhy?\nWhat's wrong with people coming to this country and becoming Americans?",
">\n\nHave you seen the amount of people screaming to deport legal asylum seekers lately?\nThey're brown, and from another place. That's all it takes for conservatives to hate and fear you.",
">\n\nHow many times does it need to be said.\nMilitary Industrial Organization",
">\n\nI am a single issue voter, and this is what I voted for",
">\n\nFinally. I was starting to wonder if the Biden administration had completely forgotten about them. Let's hope that they get every child safety reunited with their families.\nAlso, we can't just stop here with immigration- we need to safely let in more refugees and asylum seekers. If we can let in ones from Ukraine, then we should be able to let in ones from Syria and other countries.",
">\n\nI thought this started in 1997?",
">\n\nThis is to indicate that Trump is such a large ass that 700 children's parents were stuck under him.",
">\n\nB(ased)iden",
">\n\nCool. What about the rest of them? What about the kids who are still missing after being taken into the internment camps ICE set up?",
">\n\nPerfect is the enemy of good.",
">\n\nGotta accept a certain level of kids in cages?",
">\n\nOk, how many are left?",
">\n\nThe article has that information.",
">\n\nIt was more under biden. And even more under obama",
">\n\nWhat about the kids taken under the Obama administration? Oh, and also the Biden administration?"
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"The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children. In 30 years from now we will be seeing documentaries about children who suffered permanent psychological damage at the hands of Trumps administration. People will be shocked to learn that the U.S. government focible took these peoples children and intentionally separated them to be cruel.",
">\n\nThe people who supported it will pretend they never knew anything about it and act shocked and disgusted.",
">\n\nThey already are claiming this did not happen or Obama did it or some other nonsense. Let me clear: Trump instituted a policy to forcibly separate children (including infants) from their legal asylum-seekng parents at the border. He did this to be cruel and scare people from coming. His minions then forgot to keep records of who the kids were.",
">\n\nI'd only argue with \"forgot.\" They intentionally didn't keep records so as to make it as difficult as possible to reunite these families. The cruelty was the point. In fact, they outright declared that they were doing this to try to dissuade people from coming to America. \"Try to seek asylum in America and we'll separate you from your kids who you'll never see again!\"",
">\n\n\"The laws are the laws\" = dead giveaway for a fascist. The law is there to serve the people. If it's not serving them, it should be changed.",
">\n\nWhat really gives away the game is politicians supporting and pushing through laws that do not have majority public support - anti-marijuana and abortion come to mind. Also the use of propaganda to try to affect levels of support for certain things.",
">\n\nA piece of legislation is almost always guaranteed to fail if it polls extremely popular with Americans on all sides. It's really sad...",
">\n\nYep, like “80% of Americans support this” and they’re uh… “oh but some discredited propaganda bullshit”. Really gives away who they are truly working for.",
">\n\nNo, they'll have their \"experts\" testify that they're correct. Then you find out the \"expert\" talking about MJ legalization is a LEO and the \"expert\" talking about abortion is a religious leader.",
">\n\nThe people who did this belong on trail for crimes against humanity at the Hague.\nActual consequences? Fuckin' crickets as usual.",
">\n\nReminder that under Bush the US granted itself permission to invade The Hague If an American citizen should ever be tried there.",
">\n\nWe should send Bush to be tried there.",
">\n\nTrump and his henchmen should be charged for these crimes. Of all of Trump's crimes, I think the concentration camps for immigrants and separating immigrants from their children were among the worst. We have to punish them or this will happen again next time they have the presidency.",
">\n\nAmerica doesn't punish Republican crimes.\n\nSource: Jan 6th",
">\n\nThe list of sources is very long.",
">\n\nIt starts at least with the Watergate. GWB never answered to war crimes or to lying to start a war. And Trump pardon the only person charged in the Valery Plane affair.",
">\n\nDidn't Nixon interfere with the peace process in Vietnam, extending the war so his opponent wouldn't get a win right before the election?",
">\n\nYep.",
">\n\nStephen Miller should be in a 6 x 9",
">\n\nAre there any cells smaller than that for that pea brained asshat?",
">\n\nThere’s a box",
">\n\nIf it fits it sits",
">\n\nThis program of separating parents from their children without documentation is going to be remembered in the same way we talk about the Syphilis Study at Tuskegee. Except that was the 1930s.\nOne of these days some of those kids are going to take their pound of flesh out of the United States either legally or violently, and they'll have right on their side.",
">\n\nnah, the fascists will have rewritten history in the US by then. Our kids will never learn about any of it unless we move.",
">\n\nPresident Ron Desantis III will remove it from the national curriculum.",
">\n\nProbably in a governor position he would still have that power",
">\n\nNever forget this was a crime against humanity. Conservatives supported it. Even your so called “moderate conservative friends”\nIf it had been your kid they wouldn’t give a fuck.\nIn 20 years people will call it a stain on our nation. But the sociopaths who enabled it are here right now.",
">\n\nThe sociopaths who enabled it are in a very good position to seize absolute control of our country, too.",
">\n\nDon’t forget that it’s the trump supporters that empowered the sociopaths.",
">\n\nIt boggles my mind how there isn't a bigger deal made of this. They stole kids from their parents. Any time it pops into my head, I'm infuriated. In a just world, Trump and his administration would be harshly punished.",
">\n\nSeriously. It is crime against HUMANITY",
">\n\nDOJ should throw kidnapping charges onto the pile of Trump crimes.",
">\n\nKidnapped. That's called kidnapping.",
">\n\nAbduction, human trafficking, genocide.\nTake your pick.",
">\n\nThis needs to be made into a drama doc, like the recent Jeffrey Dahmer series. I guarantee it would make a compelling story, and if done right, it would reach even strong trump supporters just by virtue of it's entertainment value. \nThis whole debacle was one of the cruelest things the US has done in decades, and it was done with Glee by a mentally unstable maniac and his supporters. The sooner we see it through the lens of history and regret, the better",
">\n\nWe better hurry before the republicans ban all history.",
">\n\nThis is only happening because trump never had a plan to reunite the families.\nFor those in the back. He ripped apart families with NO INTENTION OF THEM EVER BEING REUNITED.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. In order to create a situation like this, they had to have the intent to prevent the reuniting of families.",
">\n\nIt pains me to think how great this nation could be if the government didnt have to spend time and resources fixing the things republican admins did",
">\n\nIt's such an insane cycle. Conservatives fuck shit up, Dems finally get back in and spend the entire time fixing shit, conservatives run on \"look, they didn't make anything better!\", get back in to fuck shit up. Rinse and repeat.",
">\n\nExcept Dems (if they actually focus on it) are usually only able to fix 70ish% of the budgetary and humanitarian issues that were cause by the previous administration. Then when they lose reelection we slip further backwards.",
">\n\nWhat do you mean if?",
">\n\nIf they focus on repairing damage instead of squabbling with each other (which happens a lot).",
">\n\nAs a Mexican immigrant I really appreciate this",
">\n\nI just wish we had received the same support nationwide like BLM did.",
">\n\nOutraged Republicans demand to know why they were not sold to traffickers as they planned.",
">\n\nThink of all that could have been accomplished in the same time with the same effort if we didn't need them to focus on this. Every Democratic administration is hobbled by needing to undo the evils of the Republicans before them. And it doesn't go the other way because it only takes a second to wreck something, but it takes time to do things right.",
">\n\nContrarily to what the aryicle stars, they were not crossing illegaly. They came as asylum seekers, which is legal. Many (all?) of them arrived at official points of entry. These are not people who were arrested crossing the river in the middle of the night (not that it would justify taking their kids in any way).",
">\n\nOf course the Republican subs are silent on this\nFuck trump",
">\n\ngiving them all citizenship and all of their families is the least we could do for what we've done to those kids",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nThey’ll still be traumatized for the rest of their lives. Drug addiction, depression, suicides will plague these children. If there were any justice, the architects of this policy should be charged with crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nTypical go to of Christian nationalists is to steal children.",
">\n\nI guess the conservatives are ok as long it isn't their child or children.",
">\n\nI want to remind everyone here that Trump's ICE not only separated countless children from their parents, they then \"LOST\" them. Trafficked. They trafficked them. But they called them \"lost\". Then, in an absolutely astounding act of evil and affirmation of cruelty, they released the numbers to the public: 1488 lost children.\nYes. That's right. 1488, the same number literal nazis hold sacred.\nThe depth of evil and abuse and violence the right has descended to should be SO MUCH more alarming to more people. In case you think the assertion that the children were trafficked is alarmist please remember when they caught ICE transporting children without paperwork in the dead of night or keeping children in hotels without due process then sending them back to mexico with no transition process so they were essentially homeless.",
">\n\nWow. That is incredibly evil.",
">\n\nThe GOP are the Nazis come again. Time is a flat circle and most of the circle is fascism",
">\n\nNearly 75 percent is better than I expected, and they're still working. One small cause for optimism.",
">\n\nI wouldn't call it a small cause. This is pretty massive, actually following through with fixing this disgusting miscarriage of justice. I remember reading about this stuff happening and thinking that it would have to be a priority for a new administration. Glad it's being handled.",
">\n\nI remember reading this and thinking ‘holy fucking shit’, and my view on USA has not been the same since.\nThe fact Trump still got 70+ million votes after mandating/ordering this policy is insane.",
">\n\nTrump voters tend to be low information. If they even heard about this, they heard someone on Fox/Newsmax/twitter defending it or saying it was fantastic while distorting the truth about it.",
">\n\nI’d like to think they were ignorant, but somehow it all adds up. I can’t let it go.",
">\n\nNot enough, but it’s a start.",
">\n\nCrimes against humanity.",
">\n\nJesus Christ Trump was a disaster, we're just now returning the kids to their parents though?!? The damage we caused will never go away.",
">\n\nOver 2000 were returned during the Trump administration so these are part of the harder to find parents.",
">\n\nSomething tells me this will not be on many news stations tonight.",
">\n\nFinally. This is why I voted in 2020",
">\n\nI will be enraged until the headline reads ALL!",
">\n\nUnfortunately, that might never happen given that the Trump administration managed to lose track of a bunch of them. I wish I was making that up.",
">\n\nHow about the DOJ criminally prosecute the architects and others who had a hand in this heinous crime?",
">\n\n\nAccording to figures released by the Department of Homeland Security, 3,881 children were separated from their families from 2017 to 2021. About 74% of those have been reunited with their families: 2,176 before the task force was created and 689 afterward.\nBut that still leaves nearly 1,000 children. Of those, 148 are in the reunification process. The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children.\n\nUgh, close but not close enough to fixing this mistake.",
">\n\nRemember when the Trump administration claimed that it was impossible to reunite the families?",
">\n\nWhy do we always have to clean up after Republicans? Getting tiresome.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that because the separation policy was specifically designed to deter certain kinds of people from seeking asylum, these kidnappings qualify as a crime against humanity under international law.",
">\n\nA whole bunch of them were trafficked to the upper Midwest to work the overnight shift on meat packing plant floors. It was only uncovered when one of their middle school teachers called CPS because these kids were coming in with severe chemical burns on their hands and arms. And, yes - after working the overnight shift cleaning a meat processing plant floor, these kids were going to school all day. The youngest was 12.",
">\n\nOh no. Just appalling",
">\n\nBecause it’s the right thing to do. Well done. Still going to be a long road toward healing for those poor kids.",
">\n\nI'm still stunned nobody has gone to jail for this and that the US public did not draw the line at this. It is sickening.",
">\n\nWe don’t get credit for fixing our own fuckup",
">\n\nIt is SHAMEFUL how these people were treated.",
">\n\nThat is wonderful news. Trump and his administration were so evil and cruel. I can't imagine how anyone could be so heartless.",
">\n\nHow many of these kids were molested by Trump supporters? Not zero.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to think if Trump was still POTUS, these (and likely many more) kids would still be lost.",
">\n\nNot enough is made over the evil that Trump and Stephen Miller committed during this fiasco. \nObjectively horrific, vile men.",
">\n\nNever forget there was one boy who died in his own vomit for hours before someone checked up on him. My blood still seethes thinking about it.\nHis name was Carlos Gregorio Hernandez Vasquez, he was 16 from Guatemala.",
">\n\nI'm very happy to read this. That said, the fact that this ever happened (and I don't care who it happens under) is disgusting and needs to be completely stopped from happening again.",
">\n\nThis should be much bigger news",
">\n\nHow many years were these kids without their parents in a government camp?",
">\n\nClose to four years.",
">\n\nOh yea I forgot he did this, the absolute sicko",
">\n\nThis is real oppressive fascist shit, my dear Americans. Except those who should hear this either won't read this or don't have a problem with it...",
">\n\nThis probably puts SStephen Miller in the deepest of funks.",
">\n\nGenuinely good news and a step towards righting an intentionally monstrous act.",
">\n\nhow many more are there? how many were raped? how many died?",
">\n\nIt's good to see the nation moving closer to its founding principles.",
">\n\nIf this is true, it’s the only news I heard today that I give a single fuck about. Wow. YES. Keep going. 100% reunification.",
">\n\nThere are still missing children.",
">\n\nTrAnS pEoPlE aRe GrOoMiNg OuR cHiLdReN. No, there not, and your outrage would be more effective if it targeted the POS you voted for.",
">\n\nTrump reign of terror was so barbaric.",
">\n\nThing is. .....Republicans are probably unhappy about this.",
">\n\nThis definitely put a smile on my face! :)",
">\n\nUS reunites nearly 700 kids taken from parents under ~~Trump~~ the republicans.",
">\n\nSomehow trump will take credit for this. He'll say something like how much better he made those parents appreciate their children and the children their parents. Ugh.",
">\n\nbold of you to assume he'll pay any attention at all to them.",
">\n\nHow I fucking wish \"Kids in cages\" never became the misleading rallying cry against Trump when kidnapped children was the more accurate description of what the administration was doing that needed to be stopped immediately.\nHow many times have you seen some galaxy brain talk about how \"Oh nobody says 'kids in cages' anymore now that it's ok Biden is doing it!\" Yeah it was a stupid and inaccurate criticism to begin with, because any kind of policy of detaining people caught trying to cross the border illegally will fit the \"kids in cages\" meme. \nThe entire reason people got mad at Trump beyond the border wall nonsense was because he specifically ordered a family separation policy that was designed to function as a cruel deterrent to immigration. The Obama administration was forced to adopt a family separation policy because courts ruled that minors could not be detained with adults when detained by ICE, but the Trump administration embraced this policy and added on kidnapping and forced separation across the country which resembled human trafficking more than any kind of immigration policy.\nAnd yeah, Biden is reuniting people while still maintaining a policy of not letting anyone cross the border anywhere at any time for any reason. We can talk about the ethics of detaining people caught trying to cross a national border illegally, and we should. But its an entirely separate discussion from whether one should steal their kids and ship them across the country and throw away the records of where they went.",
">\n\nAnother horrifying legacy of the US.",
">\n\nStephen Miller needs to be permanently attached to this heartless decision.",
">\n\nThe damage has been done. It's literally the least we can do is give them their children back.. I can't even believe that sentence needed to be said. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nFinally, someone thought of the children",
">\n\nYet another crime that orange gasbag will never be punished for…",
">\n\nThis chapter of Trump's presidency was truly mask off evil from the party that professes that they are the party of morals and family values. Before this people could argue that they could be afforded the benefit of the doubt. I kind of knew that Republicans were trolls and bad faith actors but then after this I knew that they really have no bottom line with how low they are willing to go. Truly evil what they did to those desperate families and kids when it would have been the easiest thing in the world to just not.",
">\n\nThis is not the same war crime Russia is doing in the Ukraine. It's a completely different war crime.",
">\n\nIt's sad and despicable that this is even necessary.",
">\n\nThis post has about 670 comments. Imagine if every single one of them was a family reunion. Heartbreaking cruelty from the last administration.",
">\n\nThe Trimp administration did a lot terrible things and had plenty of awful, harmful policies. But this is one of those times when it crossed the line into literal evil.",
">\n\nI figured this was happening in the background but damn it's heartbreaking that it's taking this long because of how thoroughly Trump fucked up any semblance of process for the DHS\nLike don't get me wrong, anyone who works for ICE is and always has been a disgusting pig, but they used to be disgusting pigs bound by similar levels of US bureaucracy as the rest of the government",
">\n\nThis was a very good thing to do and the media isn’t talking about it.",
">\n\nThis needs to be bigger news",
">\n\nWhat the hell AP, it was the US under Trump too. Maybe a better headline might have been \"Biden admin reunites nearly 700...\"",
">\n\nOur bad, we did teach the kid to walk and talk, she mostly knows to say “put your hands through the bars” but still.",
">\n\nThis is news I've been waiting 6 years for.",
">\n\nWas Eric one of them?",
">\n\nI will look for you, I will find you and I will reunite you",
">\n\nLike the motherfucking handmaids tale or some shit",
">\n\nIt's nice for the country to be taking a step back towards its ideals.",
">\n\nWhy the fuck is this not plastered all over the news? This was an international outrage for years and now it’s a tiny news story thrown in on a Friday? Whomever is in charge of the WH Press Office should be ashamed.",
">\n\nNot sure what the White House Press Office could do here if outlets simply don't bother pushing the story.",
">\n\nI want to know how many are still separated.\nEverything else is not good enough.",
">\n\nYou will need to do a slight bit of math when reading the article to get the exact number but it as about a thousand remaining to be united.",
">\n\nI feel for these kids (and their parents). Many of them have been sexually assaulted because no one was there to protect them.",
">\n\nGee, Trump reminds me of Hitler for some reason. Does anyone else see a similarity? One redeeming factor is that we all know how Hitler ended up.",
">\n\nIt is a great labor to undo great evils. \nGlad it's being done.",
">\n\nHow many in total were separated? 700 is great, but if there are still 1,000s more this should also be an equal amount of new coverage.",
">\n\nThe exact counts are in the article if you want them.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if the articles were meant to be read.",
">\n\nIt’s a good start",
">\n\nIs trump a Russian spy?\nA global traitor",
">\n\nWhen will the real criminals be put in jail?",
">\n\nvery nice to see this happen and hopefully never happens again.",
">\n\nI pray the remaining children are with US family members. This was an impeachable criminal act by Trump",
">\n\nThis was by far the most evil thing his administration did.",
">\n\nNow seperate Trump from his family.",
">\n\nI mean, damage done. If I was fleeing my home in terror from economic disaster, and the place I ran to stole my fucking kid from me, and I didn’t get them back for three years?…. I mean… that dude is a terrorist now. What is left in his life except to punish this country?",
">\n\nLock him up",
">\n\nSome good news",
">\n\nThis is not enough.",
">\n\nI was kidnapped and separated from one of my parents for a week when I was young. To be separated for such a long time… The shit is going to haunt those kids for the rest of their lives and they will likely hate those who put them through this. I know this firsthand just based how lost I felt in my experience.",
">\n\nSome good news.",
">\n\nOh, well that's good news.",
">\n\nBut I was told in 2016 that Democrats were the same as Republicans.",
">\n\nI know the mods have that thing about being courteous to others blah blah blah, but fuck trump...",
">\n\nYes, but there are still an estimated 1,000 more that they can’t even find yet. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nThe headline shouldn't exist but half the country literally voted for this to happen. It's insane. Ashamed to be an American.",
">\n\nAfter the last child is reunited with family, Melania's \"I don't really care do you\" jacket will be displayed in the Smithsonian.",
">\n\n*Biden administration reunites 700 kids taken from parents under trump",
">\n\nOnly 49,300 to go.",
">\n\nThe Trump administration was monstrous. If there is such a thing as Karma this country has a lot to pay for…",
">\n\nI hope they use this to finally lock up Trump and his goons. This is disgusting and a stain on the US.",
">\n\nThe right thing to do.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\n/r/Orphancrushingmachine",
">\n\nWhy are the Republicans such pieces of shit? The whole fucking Republican Party needs to be done away with permanently.",
">\n\nIts still happening. Reuniting kids is great and all but if the same policies that separated them still exist it doesn't mean anything",
">\n\nbelongs in /r/upliftingnews!",
">\n\nHonestly it baffles me why people see “horrendous injustice addressed after long delay” and say “/r/upliftingnews”. There’s nothing uplifting about this story, everyone should be enraged.",
">\n\nEveryone is enraged all the time about everything and then go to Reddit or Twitter to make comments which does nothing.",
">\n\nAt least enraged people acknowledge the problem. Toxic positivity does less than that.",
">\n\nGood. Shame on the previous terroristic administration for the separations in the first place.",
">\n\nBut my dad won’t be talking about this. \nOnly that Biden keeps on sending money to Ukraine and his social security is going to run out. \nIt’s kind of funny at this point.",
">\n\nRemind him that his social security will run out, but you won’t get any because we don’t fucking tax the rich like we did before the 80s.",
">\n\nGOP, the party of family values",
">\n\nPutin the dwarf and Donnie the orange-haired orangutan had a lot in common.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nAlternative headline: US returns some of the kids they stole and lost",
">\n\nPeace of garbage: Trump. Hope same happens to his children and grand children",
">\n\nFrom the thumbnail, i was confused and worried . I thought I was about to read Jeff Bezos stole kids to work in Amazon warehouses or something. >_< don't act like it's unreasonable given the last 7 years.",
">\n\nBiden administration making a task force to reunite families, after being in the administration that bolstered the same organization that separated the kids is a joke lol\nI beg for Reddit to look at the bigger picture then just “trump bad, blue good”",
">\n\nYou're incorrectly conflating two issues. \nDeportations have to happen if we are going to protect our borders. But we can be compassionate while deporting people, like by not over-crowding facilities, providing basic sanitary needs, and keeping families together as a unit throughout the process.\nThe Trump administration issued a \"zero tolerance\" family seperation policy. It meant that children were seperated from their families as a matter of policy, with no concern for proper record keeping to reunite the families once a verdict in their case had been reached. The administration also allowed its facilities to overcrowd, and there are many reports of inadequate sanitary supplies. \nTheir point was cruelty.\nThe policy was rescinded as soon as the Biden administration took office.",
">\n\nWe must protect our borders!!! 🔴 “booooooooo”\nWe must protect our borders!!! 🔵 “yeahhh!!!!”\nYou do know the majority of illegal immigration is from airplanes right? You do realize ICE in general illegally block’s asylum seekers yeah? We must protect the borders!!! \nZero tolerance, but only detaining “threats” (literally anyone a government body can deem a threat, just look at our jail system) is good! Bc framing it that was makes it better",
">\n\nIts like you're trying to weaponize missing the point",
">\n\nHopefully they were reunited back in their country of origin.",
">\n\nWhy?\nWhat's wrong with people coming to this country and becoming Americans?",
">\n\nHave you seen the amount of people screaming to deport legal asylum seekers lately?\nThey're brown, and from another place. That's all it takes for conservatives to hate and fear you.",
">\n\nHow many times does it need to be said.\nMilitary Industrial Organization",
">\n\nI am a single issue voter, and this is what I voted for",
">\n\nFinally. I was starting to wonder if the Biden administration had completely forgotten about them. Let's hope that they get every child safety reunited with their families.\nAlso, we can't just stop here with immigration- we need to safely let in more refugees and asylum seekers. If we can let in ones from Ukraine, then we should be able to let in ones from Syria and other countries.",
">\n\nI thought this started in 1997?",
">\n\nThis is to indicate that Trump is such a large ass that 700 children's parents were stuck under him.",
">\n\nB(ased)iden",
">\n\nCool. What about the rest of them? What about the kids who are still missing after being taken into the internment camps ICE set up?",
">\n\nPerfect is the enemy of good.",
">\n\nGotta accept a certain level of kids in cages?",
">\n\nOk, how many are left?",
">\n\nThe article has that information.",
">\n\nIt was more under biden. And even more under obama",
">\n\nWhat about the kids taken under the Obama administration? Oh, and also the Biden administration?",
">\n\nLet’s not pretend Biden hated deportations."
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"The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children. In 30 years from now we will be seeing documentaries about children who suffered permanent psychological damage at the hands of Trumps administration. People will be shocked to learn that the U.S. government focible took these peoples children and intentionally separated them to be cruel.",
">\n\nThe people who supported it will pretend they never knew anything about it and act shocked and disgusted.",
">\n\nThey already are claiming this did not happen or Obama did it or some other nonsense. Let me clear: Trump instituted a policy to forcibly separate children (including infants) from their legal asylum-seekng parents at the border. He did this to be cruel and scare people from coming. His minions then forgot to keep records of who the kids were.",
">\n\nI'd only argue with \"forgot.\" They intentionally didn't keep records so as to make it as difficult as possible to reunite these families. The cruelty was the point. In fact, they outright declared that they were doing this to try to dissuade people from coming to America. \"Try to seek asylum in America and we'll separate you from your kids who you'll never see again!\"",
">\n\n\"The laws are the laws\" = dead giveaway for a fascist. The law is there to serve the people. If it's not serving them, it should be changed.",
">\n\nWhat really gives away the game is politicians supporting and pushing through laws that do not have majority public support - anti-marijuana and abortion come to mind. Also the use of propaganda to try to affect levels of support for certain things.",
">\n\nA piece of legislation is almost always guaranteed to fail if it polls extremely popular with Americans on all sides. It's really sad...",
">\n\nYep, like “80% of Americans support this” and they’re uh… “oh but some discredited propaganda bullshit”. Really gives away who they are truly working for.",
">\n\nNo, they'll have their \"experts\" testify that they're correct. Then you find out the \"expert\" talking about MJ legalization is a LEO and the \"expert\" talking about abortion is a religious leader.",
">\n\nThe people who did this belong on trail for crimes against humanity at the Hague.\nActual consequences? Fuckin' crickets as usual.",
">\n\nReminder that under Bush the US granted itself permission to invade The Hague If an American citizen should ever be tried there.",
">\n\nWe should send Bush to be tried there.",
">\n\nTrump and his henchmen should be charged for these crimes. Of all of Trump's crimes, I think the concentration camps for immigrants and separating immigrants from their children were among the worst. We have to punish them or this will happen again next time they have the presidency.",
">\n\nAmerica doesn't punish Republican crimes.\n\nSource: Jan 6th",
">\n\nThe list of sources is very long.",
">\n\nIt starts at least with the Watergate. GWB never answered to war crimes or to lying to start a war. And Trump pardon the only person charged in the Valery Plane affair.",
">\n\nDidn't Nixon interfere with the peace process in Vietnam, extending the war so his opponent wouldn't get a win right before the election?",
">\n\nYep.",
">\n\nStephen Miller should be in a 6 x 9",
">\n\nAre there any cells smaller than that for that pea brained asshat?",
">\n\nThere’s a box",
">\n\nIf it fits it sits",
">\n\nThis program of separating parents from their children without documentation is going to be remembered in the same way we talk about the Syphilis Study at Tuskegee. Except that was the 1930s.\nOne of these days some of those kids are going to take their pound of flesh out of the United States either legally or violently, and they'll have right on their side.",
">\n\nnah, the fascists will have rewritten history in the US by then. Our kids will never learn about any of it unless we move.",
">\n\nPresident Ron Desantis III will remove it from the national curriculum.",
">\n\nProbably in a governor position he would still have that power",
">\n\nNever forget this was a crime against humanity. Conservatives supported it. Even your so called “moderate conservative friends”\nIf it had been your kid they wouldn’t give a fuck.\nIn 20 years people will call it a stain on our nation. But the sociopaths who enabled it are here right now.",
">\n\nThe sociopaths who enabled it are in a very good position to seize absolute control of our country, too.",
">\n\nDon’t forget that it’s the trump supporters that empowered the sociopaths.",
">\n\nIt boggles my mind how there isn't a bigger deal made of this. They stole kids from their parents. Any time it pops into my head, I'm infuriated. In a just world, Trump and his administration would be harshly punished.",
">\n\nSeriously. It is crime against HUMANITY",
">\n\nDOJ should throw kidnapping charges onto the pile of Trump crimes.",
">\n\nKidnapped. That's called kidnapping.",
">\n\nAbduction, human trafficking, genocide.\nTake your pick.",
">\n\nThis needs to be made into a drama doc, like the recent Jeffrey Dahmer series. I guarantee it would make a compelling story, and if done right, it would reach even strong trump supporters just by virtue of it's entertainment value. \nThis whole debacle was one of the cruelest things the US has done in decades, and it was done with Glee by a mentally unstable maniac and his supporters. The sooner we see it through the lens of history and regret, the better",
">\n\nWe better hurry before the republicans ban all history.",
">\n\nThis is only happening because trump never had a plan to reunite the families.\nFor those in the back. He ripped apart families with NO INTENTION OF THEM EVER BEING REUNITED.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. In order to create a situation like this, they had to have the intent to prevent the reuniting of families.",
">\n\nIt pains me to think how great this nation could be if the government didnt have to spend time and resources fixing the things republican admins did",
">\n\nIt's such an insane cycle. Conservatives fuck shit up, Dems finally get back in and spend the entire time fixing shit, conservatives run on \"look, they didn't make anything better!\", get back in to fuck shit up. Rinse and repeat.",
">\n\nExcept Dems (if they actually focus on it) are usually only able to fix 70ish% of the budgetary and humanitarian issues that were cause by the previous administration. Then when they lose reelection we slip further backwards.",
">\n\nWhat do you mean if?",
">\n\nIf they focus on repairing damage instead of squabbling with each other (which happens a lot).",
">\n\nAs a Mexican immigrant I really appreciate this",
">\n\nI just wish we had received the same support nationwide like BLM did.",
">\n\nOutraged Republicans demand to know why they were not sold to traffickers as they planned.",
">\n\nThink of all that could have been accomplished in the same time with the same effort if we didn't need them to focus on this. Every Democratic administration is hobbled by needing to undo the evils of the Republicans before them. And it doesn't go the other way because it only takes a second to wreck something, but it takes time to do things right.",
">\n\nContrarily to what the aryicle stars, they were not crossing illegaly. They came as asylum seekers, which is legal. Many (all?) of them arrived at official points of entry. These are not people who were arrested crossing the river in the middle of the night (not that it would justify taking their kids in any way).",
">\n\nOf course the Republican subs are silent on this\nFuck trump",
">\n\ngiving them all citizenship and all of their families is the least we could do for what we've done to those kids",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nThey’ll still be traumatized for the rest of their lives. Drug addiction, depression, suicides will plague these children. If there were any justice, the architects of this policy should be charged with crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nTypical go to of Christian nationalists is to steal children.",
">\n\nI guess the conservatives are ok as long it isn't their child or children.",
">\n\nI want to remind everyone here that Trump's ICE not only separated countless children from their parents, they then \"LOST\" them. Trafficked. They trafficked them. But they called them \"lost\". Then, in an absolutely astounding act of evil and affirmation of cruelty, they released the numbers to the public: 1488 lost children.\nYes. That's right. 1488, the same number literal nazis hold sacred.\nThe depth of evil and abuse and violence the right has descended to should be SO MUCH more alarming to more people. In case you think the assertion that the children were trafficked is alarmist please remember when they caught ICE transporting children without paperwork in the dead of night or keeping children in hotels without due process then sending them back to mexico with no transition process so they were essentially homeless.",
">\n\nWow. That is incredibly evil.",
">\n\nThe GOP are the Nazis come again. Time is a flat circle and most of the circle is fascism",
">\n\nNearly 75 percent is better than I expected, and they're still working. One small cause for optimism.",
">\n\nI wouldn't call it a small cause. This is pretty massive, actually following through with fixing this disgusting miscarriage of justice. I remember reading about this stuff happening and thinking that it would have to be a priority for a new administration. Glad it's being handled.",
">\n\nI remember reading this and thinking ‘holy fucking shit’, and my view on USA has not been the same since.\nThe fact Trump still got 70+ million votes after mandating/ordering this policy is insane.",
">\n\nTrump voters tend to be low information. If they even heard about this, they heard someone on Fox/Newsmax/twitter defending it or saying it was fantastic while distorting the truth about it.",
">\n\nI’d like to think they were ignorant, but somehow it all adds up. I can’t let it go.",
">\n\nNot enough, but it’s a start.",
">\n\nCrimes against humanity.",
">\n\nJesus Christ Trump was a disaster, we're just now returning the kids to their parents though?!? The damage we caused will never go away.",
">\n\nOver 2000 were returned during the Trump administration so these are part of the harder to find parents.",
">\n\nSomething tells me this will not be on many news stations tonight.",
">\n\nFinally. This is why I voted in 2020",
">\n\nI will be enraged until the headline reads ALL!",
">\n\nUnfortunately, that might never happen given that the Trump administration managed to lose track of a bunch of them. I wish I was making that up.",
">\n\nHow about the DOJ criminally prosecute the architects and others who had a hand in this heinous crime?",
">\n\n\nAccording to figures released by the Department of Homeland Security, 3,881 children were separated from their families from 2017 to 2021. About 74% of those have been reunited with their families: 2,176 before the task force was created and 689 afterward.\nBut that still leaves nearly 1,000 children. Of those, 148 are in the reunification process. The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children.\n\nUgh, close but not close enough to fixing this mistake.",
">\n\nRemember when the Trump administration claimed that it was impossible to reunite the families?",
">\n\nWhy do we always have to clean up after Republicans? Getting tiresome.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that because the separation policy was specifically designed to deter certain kinds of people from seeking asylum, these kidnappings qualify as a crime against humanity under international law.",
">\n\nA whole bunch of them were trafficked to the upper Midwest to work the overnight shift on meat packing plant floors. It was only uncovered when one of their middle school teachers called CPS because these kids were coming in with severe chemical burns on their hands and arms. And, yes - after working the overnight shift cleaning a meat processing plant floor, these kids were going to school all day. The youngest was 12.",
">\n\nOh no. Just appalling",
">\n\nBecause it’s the right thing to do. Well done. Still going to be a long road toward healing for those poor kids.",
">\n\nI'm still stunned nobody has gone to jail for this and that the US public did not draw the line at this. It is sickening.",
">\n\nWe don’t get credit for fixing our own fuckup",
">\n\nIt is SHAMEFUL how these people were treated.",
">\n\nThat is wonderful news. Trump and his administration were so evil and cruel. I can't imagine how anyone could be so heartless.",
">\n\nHow many of these kids were molested by Trump supporters? Not zero.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to think if Trump was still POTUS, these (and likely many more) kids would still be lost.",
">\n\nNot enough is made over the evil that Trump and Stephen Miller committed during this fiasco. \nObjectively horrific, vile men.",
">\n\nNever forget there was one boy who died in his own vomit for hours before someone checked up on him. My blood still seethes thinking about it.\nHis name was Carlos Gregorio Hernandez Vasquez, he was 16 from Guatemala.",
">\n\nI'm very happy to read this. That said, the fact that this ever happened (and I don't care who it happens under) is disgusting and needs to be completely stopped from happening again.",
">\n\nThis should be much bigger news",
">\n\nHow many years were these kids without their parents in a government camp?",
">\n\nClose to four years.",
">\n\nOh yea I forgot he did this, the absolute sicko",
">\n\nThis is real oppressive fascist shit, my dear Americans. Except those who should hear this either won't read this or don't have a problem with it...",
">\n\nThis probably puts SStephen Miller in the deepest of funks.",
">\n\nGenuinely good news and a step towards righting an intentionally monstrous act.",
">\n\nhow many more are there? how many were raped? how many died?",
">\n\nIt's good to see the nation moving closer to its founding principles.",
">\n\nIf this is true, it’s the only news I heard today that I give a single fuck about. Wow. YES. Keep going. 100% reunification.",
">\n\nThere are still missing children.",
">\n\nTrAnS pEoPlE aRe GrOoMiNg OuR cHiLdReN. No, there not, and your outrage would be more effective if it targeted the POS you voted for.",
">\n\nTrump reign of terror was so barbaric.",
">\n\nThing is. .....Republicans are probably unhappy about this.",
">\n\nThis definitely put a smile on my face! :)",
">\n\nUS reunites nearly 700 kids taken from parents under ~~Trump~~ the republicans.",
">\n\nSomehow trump will take credit for this. He'll say something like how much better he made those parents appreciate their children and the children their parents. Ugh.",
">\n\nbold of you to assume he'll pay any attention at all to them.",
">\n\nHow I fucking wish \"Kids in cages\" never became the misleading rallying cry against Trump when kidnapped children was the more accurate description of what the administration was doing that needed to be stopped immediately.\nHow many times have you seen some galaxy brain talk about how \"Oh nobody says 'kids in cages' anymore now that it's ok Biden is doing it!\" Yeah it was a stupid and inaccurate criticism to begin with, because any kind of policy of detaining people caught trying to cross the border illegally will fit the \"kids in cages\" meme. \nThe entire reason people got mad at Trump beyond the border wall nonsense was because he specifically ordered a family separation policy that was designed to function as a cruel deterrent to immigration. The Obama administration was forced to adopt a family separation policy because courts ruled that minors could not be detained with adults when detained by ICE, but the Trump administration embraced this policy and added on kidnapping and forced separation across the country which resembled human trafficking more than any kind of immigration policy.\nAnd yeah, Biden is reuniting people while still maintaining a policy of not letting anyone cross the border anywhere at any time for any reason. We can talk about the ethics of detaining people caught trying to cross a national border illegally, and we should. But its an entirely separate discussion from whether one should steal their kids and ship them across the country and throw away the records of where they went.",
">\n\nAnother horrifying legacy of the US.",
">\n\nStephen Miller needs to be permanently attached to this heartless decision.",
">\n\nThe damage has been done. It's literally the least we can do is give them their children back.. I can't even believe that sentence needed to be said. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nFinally, someone thought of the children",
">\n\nYet another crime that orange gasbag will never be punished for…",
">\n\nThis chapter of Trump's presidency was truly mask off evil from the party that professes that they are the party of morals and family values. Before this people could argue that they could be afforded the benefit of the doubt. I kind of knew that Republicans were trolls and bad faith actors but then after this I knew that they really have no bottom line with how low they are willing to go. Truly evil what they did to those desperate families and kids when it would have been the easiest thing in the world to just not.",
">\n\nThis is not the same war crime Russia is doing in the Ukraine. It's a completely different war crime.",
">\n\nIt's sad and despicable that this is even necessary.",
">\n\nThis post has about 670 comments. Imagine if every single one of them was a family reunion. Heartbreaking cruelty from the last administration.",
">\n\nThe Trimp administration did a lot terrible things and had plenty of awful, harmful policies. But this is one of those times when it crossed the line into literal evil.",
">\n\nI figured this was happening in the background but damn it's heartbreaking that it's taking this long because of how thoroughly Trump fucked up any semblance of process for the DHS\nLike don't get me wrong, anyone who works for ICE is and always has been a disgusting pig, but they used to be disgusting pigs bound by similar levels of US bureaucracy as the rest of the government",
">\n\nThis was a very good thing to do and the media isn’t talking about it.",
">\n\nThis needs to be bigger news",
">\n\nWhat the hell AP, it was the US under Trump too. Maybe a better headline might have been \"Biden admin reunites nearly 700...\"",
">\n\nOur bad, we did teach the kid to walk and talk, she mostly knows to say “put your hands through the bars” but still.",
">\n\nThis is news I've been waiting 6 years for.",
">\n\nWas Eric one of them?",
">\n\nI will look for you, I will find you and I will reunite you",
">\n\nLike the motherfucking handmaids tale or some shit",
">\n\nIt's nice for the country to be taking a step back towards its ideals.",
">\n\nWhy the fuck is this not plastered all over the news? This was an international outrage for years and now it’s a tiny news story thrown in on a Friday? Whomever is in charge of the WH Press Office should be ashamed.",
">\n\nNot sure what the White House Press Office could do here if outlets simply don't bother pushing the story.",
">\n\nI want to know how many are still separated.\nEverything else is not good enough.",
">\n\nYou will need to do a slight bit of math when reading the article to get the exact number but it as about a thousand remaining to be united.",
">\n\nI feel for these kids (and their parents). Many of them have been sexually assaulted because no one was there to protect them.",
">\n\nGee, Trump reminds me of Hitler for some reason. Does anyone else see a similarity? One redeeming factor is that we all know how Hitler ended up.",
">\n\nIt is a great labor to undo great evils. \nGlad it's being done.",
">\n\nHow many in total were separated? 700 is great, but if there are still 1,000s more this should also be an equal amount of new coverage.",
">\n\nThe exact counts are in the article if you want them.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if the articles were meant to be read.",
">\n\nIt’s a good start",
">\n\nIs trump a Russian spy?\nA global traitor",
">\n\nWhen will the real criminals be put in jail?",
">\n\nvery nice to see this happen and hopefully never happens again.",
">\n\nI pray the remaining children are with US family members. This was an impeachable criminal act by Trump",
">\n\nThis was by far the most evil thing his administration did.",
">\n\nNow seperate Trump from his family.",
">\n\nI mean, damage done. If I was fleeing my home in terror from economic disaster, and the place I ran to stole my fucking kid from me, and I didn’t get them back for three years?…. I mean… that dude is a terrorist now. What is left in his life except to punish this country?",
">\n\nLock him up",
">\n\nSome good news",
">\n\nThis is not enough.",
">\n\nI was kidnapped and separated from one of my parents for a week when I was young. To be separated for such a long time… The shit is going to haunt those kids for the rest of their lives and they will likely hate those who put them through this. I know this firsthand just based how lost I felt in my experience.",
">\n\nSome good news.",
">\n\nOh, well that's good news.",
">\n\nBut I was told in 2016 that Democrats were the same as Republicans.",
">\n\nI know the mods have that thing about being courteous to others blah blah blah, but fuck trump...",
">\n\nYes, but there are still an estimated 1,000 more that they can’t even find yet. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nThe headline shouldn't exist but half the country literally voted for this to happen. It's insane. Ashamed to be an American.",
">\n\nAfter the last child is reunited with family, Melania's \"I don't really care do you\" jacket will be displayed in the Smithsonian.",
">\n\n*Biden administration reunites 700 kids taken from parents under trump",
">\n\nOnly 49,300 to go.",
">\n\nThe Trump administration was monstrous. If there is such a thing as Karma this country has a lot to pay for…",
">\n\nI hope they use this to finally lock up Trump and his goons. This is disgusting and a stain on the US.",
">\n\nThe right thing to do.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\n/r/Orphancrushingmachine",
">\n\nWhy are the Republicans such pieces of shit? The whole fucking Republican Party needs to be done away with permanently.",
">\n\nIts still happening. Reuniting kids is great and all but if the same policies that separated them still exist it doesn't mean anything",
">\n\nbelongs in /r/upliftingnews!",
">\n\nHonestly it baffles me why people see “horrendous injustice addressed after long delay” and say “/r/upliftingnews”. There’s nothing uplifting about this story, everyone should be enraged.",
">\n\nEveryone is enraged all the time about everything and then go to Reddit or Twitter to make comments which does nothing.",
">\n\nAt least enraged people acknowledge the problem. Toxic positivity does less than that.",
">\n\nGood. Shame on the previous terroristic administration for the separations in the first place.",
">\n\nBut my dad won’t be talking about this. \nOnly that Biden keeps on sending money to Ukraine and his social security is going to run out. \nIt’s kind of funny at this point.",
">\n\nRemind him that his social security will run out, but you won’t get any because we don’t fucking tax the rich like we did before the 80s.",
">\n\nGOP, the party of family values",
">\n\nPutin the dwarf and Donnie the orange-haired orangutan had a lot in common.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nAlternative headline: US returns some of the kids they stole and lost",
">\n\nPeace of garbage: Trump. Hope same happens to his children and grand children",
">\n\nFrom the thumbnail, i was confused and worried . I thought I was about to read Jeff Bezos stole kids to work in Amazon warehouses or something. >_< don't act like it's unreasonable given the last 7 years.",
">\n\nBiden administration making a task force to reunite families, after being in the administration that bolstered the same organization that separated the kids is a joke lol\nI beg for Reddit to look at the bigger picture then just “trump bad, blue good”",
">\n\nYou're incorrectly conflating two issues. \nDeportations have to happen if we are going to protect our borders. But we can be compassionate while deporting people, like by not over-crowding facilities, providing basic sanitary needs, and keeping families together as a unit throughout the process.\nThe Trump administration issued a \"zero tolerance\" family seperation policy. It meant that children were seperated from their families as a matter of policy, with no concern for proper record keeping to reunite the families once a verdict in their case had been reached. The administration also allowed its facilities to overcrowd, and there are many reports of inadequate sanitary supplies. \nTheir point was cruelty.\nThe policy was rescinded as soon as the Biden administration took office.",
">\n\nWe must protect our borders!!! 🔴 “booooooooo”\nWe must protect our borders!!! 🔵 “yeahhh!!!!”\nYou do know the majority of illegal immigration is from airplanes right? You do realize ICE in general illegally block’s asylum seekers yeah? We must protect the borders!!! \nZero tolerance, but only detaining “threats” (literally anyone a government body can deem a threat, just look at our jail system) is good! Bc framing it that was makes it better",
">\n\nIts like you're trying to weaponize missing the point",
">\n\nHopefully they were reunited back in their country of origin.",
">\n\nWhy?\nWhat's wrong with people coming to this country and becoming Americans?",
">\n\nHave you seen the amount of people screaming to deport legal asylum seekers lately?\nThey're brown, and from another place. That's all it takes for conservatives to hate and fear you.",
">\n\nHow many times does it need to be said.\nMilitary Industrial Organization",
">\n\nI am a single issue voter, and this is what I voted for",
">\n\nFinally. I was starting to wonder if the Biden administration had completely forgotten about them. Let's hope that they get every child safety reunited with their families.\nAlso, we can't just stop here with immigration- we need to safely let in more refugees and asylum seekers. If we can let in ones from Ukraine, then we should be able to let in ones from Syria and other countries.",
">\n\nI thought this started in 1997?",
">\n\nThis is to indicate that Trump is such a large ass that 700 children's parents were stuck under him.",
">\n\nB(ased)iden",
">\n\nCool. What about the rest of them? What about the kids who are still missing after being taken into the internment camps ICE set up?",
">\n\nPerfect is the enemy of good.",
">\n\nGotta accept a certain level of kids in cages?",
">\n\nOk, how many are left?",
">\n\nThe article has that information.",
">\n\nIt was more under biden. And even more under obama",
">\n\nWhat about the kids taken under the Obama administration? Oh, and also the Biden administration?",
">\n\nLet’s not pretend Biden hated deportations.",
">\n\nThis is entirely unrelated. Factually under Obama more people were deported than under Trump, but that's not the point. The point is that kids were being separated from their parents and due to some terrible logistical issues in some cases they had trouble linking them to their parents."
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"The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children. In 30 years from now we will be seeing documentaries about children who suffered permanent psychological damage at the hands of Trumps administration. People will be shocked to learn that the U.S. government focible took these peoples children and intentionally separated them to be cruel.",
">\n\nThe people who supported it will pretend they never knew anything about it and act shocked and disgusted.",
">\n\nThey already are claiming this did not happen or Obama did it or some other nonsense. Let me clear: Trump instituted a policy to forcibly separate children (including infants) from their legal asylum-seekng parents at the border. He did this to be cruel and scare people from coming. His minions then forgot to keep records of who the kids were.",
">\n\nI'd only argue with \"forgot.\" They intentionally didn't keep records so as to make it as difficult as possible to reunite these families. The cruelty was the point. In fact, they outright declared that they were doing this to try to dissuade people from coming to America. \"Try to seek asylum in America and we'll separate you from your kids who you'll never see again!\"",
">\n\n\"The laws are the laws\" = dead giveaway for a fascist. The law is there to serve the people. If it's not serving them, it should be changed.",
">\n\nWhat really gives away the game is politicians supporting and pushing through laws that do not have majority public support - anti-marijuana and abortion come to mind. Also the use of propaganda to try to affect levels of support for certain things.",
">\n\nA piece of legislation is almost always guaranteed to fail if it polls extremely popular with Americans on all sides. It's really sad...",
">\n\nYep, like “80% of Americans support this” and they’re uh… “oh but some discredited propaganda bullshit”. Really gives away who they are truly working for.",
">\n\nNo, they'll have their \"experts\" testify that they're correct. Then you find out the \"expert\" talking about MJ legalization is a LEO and the \"expert\" talking about abortion is a religious leader.",
">\n\nThe people who did this belong on trail for crimes against humanity at the Hague.\nActual consequences? Fuckin' crickets as usual.",
">\n\nReminder that under Bush the US granted itself permission to invade The Hague If an American citizen should ever be tried there.",
">\n\nWe should send Bush to be tried there.",
">\n\nTrump and his henchmen should be charged for these crimes. Of all of Trump's crimes, I think the concentration camps for immigrants and separating immigrants from their children were among the worst. We have to punish them or this will happen again next time they have the presidency.",
">\n\nAmerica doesn't punish Republican crimes.\n\nSource: Jan 6th",
">\n\nThe list of sources is very long.",
">\n\nIt starts at least with the Watergate. GWB never answered to war crimes or to lying to start a war. And Trump pardon the only person charged in the Valery Plane affair.",
">\n\nDidn't Nixon interfere with the peace process in Vietnam, extending the war so his opponent wouldn't get a win right before the election?",
">\n\nYep.",
">\n\nStephen Miller should be in a 6 x 9",
">\n\nAre there any cells smaller than that for that pea brained asshat?",
">\n\nThere’s a box",
">\n\nIf it fits it sits",
">\n\nThis program of separating parents from their children without documentation is going to be remembered in the same way we talk about the Syphilis Study at Tuskegee. Except that was the 1930s.\nOne of these days some of those kids are going to take their pound of flesh out of the United States either legally or violently, and they'll have right on their side.",
">\n\nnah, the fascists will have rewritten history in the US by then. Our kids will never learn about any of it unless we move.",
">\n\nPresident Ron Desantis III will remove it from the national curriculum.",
">\n\nProbably in a governor position he would still have that power",
">\n\nNever forget this was a crime against humanity. Conservatives supported it. Even your so called “moderate conservative friends”\nIf it had been your kid they wouldn’t give a fuck.\nIn 20 years people will call it a stain on our nation. But the sociopaths who enabled it are here right now.",
">\n\nThe sociopaths who enabled it are in a very good position to seize absolute control of our country, too.",
">\n\nDon’t forget that it’s the trump supporters that empowered the sociopaths.",
">\n\nIt boggles my mind how there isn't a bigger deal made of this. They stole kids from their parents. Any time it pops into my head, I'm infuriated. In a just world, Trump and his administration would be harshly punished.",
">\n\nSeriously. It is crime against HUMANITY",
">\n\nDOJ should throw kidnapping charges onto the pile of Trump crimes.",
">\n\nKidnapped. That's called kidnapping.",
">\n\nAbduction, human trafficking, genocide.\nTake your pick.",
">\n\nThis needs to be made into a drama doc, like the recent Jeffrey Dahmer series. I guarantee it would make a compelling story, and if done right, it would reach even strong trump supporters just by virtue of it's entertainment value. \nThis whole debacle was one of the cruelest things the US has done in decades, and it was done with Glee by a mentally unstable maniac and his supporters. The sooner we see it through the lens of history and regret, the better",
">\n\nWe better hurry before the republicans ban all history.",
">\n\nThis is only happening because trump never had a plan to reunite the families.\nFor those in the back. He ripped apart families with NO INTENTION OF THEM EVER BEING REUNITED.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. In order to create a situation like this, they had to have the intent to prevent the reuniting of families.",
">\n\nIt pains me to think how great this nation could be if the government didnt have to spend time and resources fixing the things republican admins did",
">\n\nIt's such an insane cycle. Conservatives fuck shit up, Dems finally get back in and spend the entire time fixing shit, conservatives run on \"look, they didn't make anything better!\", get back in to fuck shit up. Rinse and repeat.",
">\n\nExcept Dems (if they actually focus on it) are usually only able to fix 70ish% of the budgetary and humanitarian issues that were cause by the previous administration. Then when they lose reelection we slip further backwards.",
">\n\nWhat do you mean if?",
">\n\nIf they focus on repairing damage instead of squabbling with each other (which happens a lot).",
">\n\nAs a Mexican immigrant I really appreciate this",
">\n\nI just wish we had received the same support nationwide like BLM did.",
">\n\nOutraged Republicans demand to know why they were not sold to traffickers as they planned.",
">\n\nThink of all that could have been accomplished in the same time with the same effort if we didn't need them to focus on this. Every Democratic administration is hobbled by needing to undo the evils of the Republicans before them. And it doesn't go the other way because it only takes a second to wreck something, but it takes time to do things right.",
">\n\nContrarily to what the aryicle stars, they were not crossing illegaly. They came as asylum seekers, which is legal. Many (all?) of them arrived at official points of entry. These are not people who were arrested crossing the river in the middle of the night (not that it would justify taking their kids in any way).",
">\n\nOf course the Republican subs are silent on this\nFuck trump",
">\n\ngiving them all citizenship and all of their families is the least we could do for what we've done to those kids",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nThey’ll still be traumatized for the rest of their lives. Drug addiction, depression, suicides will plague these children. If there were any justice, the architects of this policy should be charged with crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nTypical go to of Christian nationalists is to steal children.",
">\n\nI guess the conservatives are ok as long it isn't their child or children.",
">\n\nI want to remind everyone here that Trump's ICE not only separated countless children from their parents, they then \"LOST\" them. Trafficked. They trafficked them. But they called them \"lost\". Then, in an absolutely astounding act of evil and affirmation of cruelty, they released the numbers to the public: 1488 lost children.\nYes. That's right. 1488, the same number literal nazis hold sacred.\nThe depth of evil and abuse and violence the right has descended to should be SO MUCH more alarming to more people. In case you think the assertion that the children were trafficked is alarmist please remember when they caught ICE transporting children without paperwork in the dead of night or keeping children in hotels without due process then sending them back to mexico with no transition process so they were essentially homeless.",
">\n\nWow. That is incredibly evil.",
">\n\nThe GOP are the Nazis come again. Time is a flat circle and most of the circle is fascism",
">\n\nNearly 75 percent is better than I expected, and they're still working. One small cause for optimism.",
">\n\nI wouldn't call it a small cause. This is pretty massive, actually following through with fixing this disgusting miscarriage of justice. I remember reading about this stuff happening and thinking that it would have to be a priority for a new administration. Glad it's being handled.",
">\n\nI remember reading this and thinking ‘holy fucking shit’, and my view on USA has not been the same since.\nThe fact Trump still got 70+ million votes after mandating/ordering this policy is insane.",
">\n\nTrump voters tend to be low information. If they even heard about this, they heard someone on Fox/Newsmax/twitter defending it or saying it was fantastic while distorting the truth about it.",
">\n\nI’d like to think they were ignorant, but somehow it all adds up. I can’t let it go.",
">\n\nNot enough, but it’s a start.",
">\n\nCrimes against humanity.",
">\n\nJesus Christ Trump was a disaster, we're just now returning the kids to their parents though?!? The damage we caused will never go away.",
">\n\nOver 2000 were returned during the Trump administration so these are part of the harder to find parents.",
">\n\nSomething tells me this will not be on many news stations tonight.",
">\n\nFinally. This is why I voted in 2020",
">\n\nI will be enraged until the headline reads ALL!",
">\n\nUnfortunately, that might never happen given that the Trump administration managed to lose track of a bunch of them. I wish I was making that up.",
">\n\nHow about the DOJ criminally prosecute the architects and others who had a hand in this heinous crime?",
">\n\n\nAccording to figures released by the Department of Homeland Security, 3,881 children were separated from their families from 2017 to 2021. About 74% of those have been reunited with their families: 2,176 before the task force was created and 689 afterward.\nBut that still leaves nearly 1,000 children. Of those, 148 are in the reunification process. The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children.\n\nUgh, close but not close enough to fixing this mistake.",
">\n\nRemember when the Trump administration claimed that it was impossible to reunite the families?",
">\n\nWhy do we always have to clean up after Republicans? Getting tiresome.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that because the separation policy was specifically designed to deter certain kinds of people from seeking asylum, these kidnappings qualify as a crime against humanity under international law.",
">\n\nA whole bunch of them were trafficked to the upper Midwest to work the overnight shift on meat packing plant floors. It was only uncovered when one of their middle school teachers called CPS because these kids were coming in with severe chemical burns on their hands and arms. And, yes - after working the overnight shift cleaning a meat processing plant floor, these kids were going to school all day. The youngest was 12.",
">\n\nOh no. Just appalling",
">\n\nBecause it’s the right thing to do. Well done. Still going to be a long road toward healing for those poor kids.",
">\n\nI'm still stunned nobody has gone to jail for this and that the US public did not draw the line at this. It is sickening.",
">\n\nWe don’t get credit for fixing our own fuckup",
">\n\nIt is SHAMEFUL how these people were treated.",
">\n\nThat is wonderful news. Trump and his administration were so evil and cruel. I can't imagine how anyone could be so heartless.",
">\n\nHow many of these kids were molested by Trump supporters? Not zero.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to think if Trump was still POTUS, these (and likely many more) kids would still be lost.",
">\n\nNot enough is made over the evil that Trump and Stephen Miller committed during this fiasco. \nObjectively horrific, vile men.",
">\n\nNever forget there was one boy who died in his own vomit for hours before someone checked up on him. My blood still seethes thinking about it.\nHis name was Carlos Gregorio Hernandez Vasquez, he was 16 from Guatemala.",
">\n\nI'm very happy to read this. That said, the fact that this ever happened (and I don't care who it happens under) is disgusting and needs to be completely stopped from happening again.",
">\n\nThis should be much bigger news",
">\n\nHow many years were these kids without their parents in a government camp?",
">\n\nClose to four years.",
">\n\nOh yea I forgot he did this, the absolute sicko",
">\n\nThis is real oppressive fascist shit, my dear Americans. Except those who should hear this either won't read this or don't have a problem with it...",
">\n\nThis probably puts SStephen Miller in the deepest of funks.",
">\n\nGenuinely good news and a step towards righting an intentionally monstrous act.",
">\n\nhow many more are there? how many were raped? how many died?",
">\n\nIt's good to see the nation moving closer to its founding principles.",
">\n\nIf this is true, it’s the only news I heard today that I give a single fuck about. Wow. YES. Keep going. 100% reunification.",
">\n\nThere are still missing children.",
">\n\nTrAnS pEoPlE aRe GrOoMiNg OuR cHiLdReN. No, there not, and your outrage would be more effective if it targeted the POS you voted for.",
">\n\nTrump reign of terror was so barbaric.",
">\n\nThing is. .....Republicans are probably unhappy about this.",
">\n\nThis definitely put a smile on my face! :)",
">\n\nUS reunites nearly 700 kids taken from parents under ~~Trump~~ the republicans.",
">\n\nSomehow trump will take credit for this. He'll say something like how much better he made those parents appreciate their children and the children their parents. Ugh.",
">\n\nbold of you to assume he'll pay any attention at all to them.",
">\n\nHow I fucking wish \"Kids in cages\" never became the misleading rallying cry against Trump when kidnapped children was the more accurate description of what the administration was doing that needed to be stopped immediately.\nHow many times have you seen some galaxy brain talk about how \"Oh nobody says 'kids in cages' anymore now that it's ok Biden is doing it!\" Yeah it was a stupid and inaccurate criticism to begin with, because any kind of policy of detaining people caught trying to cross the border illegally will fit the \"kids in cages\" meme. \nThe entire reason people got mad at Trump beyond the border wall nonsense was because he specifically ordered a family separation policy that was designed to function as a cruel deterrent to immigration. The Obama administration was forced to adopt a family separation policy because courts ruled that minors could not be detained with adults when detained by ICE, but the Trump administration embraced this policy and added on kidnapping and forced separation across the country which resembled human trafficking more than any kind of immigration policy.\nAnd yeah, Biden is reuniting people while still maintaining a policy of not letting anyone cross the border anywhere at any time for any reason. We can talk about the ethics of detaining people caught trying to cross a national border illegally, and we should. But its an entirely separate discussion from whether one should steal their kids and ship them across the country and throw away the records of where they went.",
">\n\nAnother horrifying legacy of the US.",
">\n\nStephen Miller needs to be permanently attached to this heartless decision.",
">\n\nThe damage has been done. It's literally the least we can do is give them their children back.. I can't even believe that sentence needed to be said. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nFinally, someone thought of the children",
">\n\nYet another crime that orange gasbag will never be punished for…",
">\n\nThis chapter of Trump's presidency was truly mask off evil from the party that professes that they are the party of morals and family values. Before this people could argue that they could be afforded the benefit of the doubt. I kind of knew that Republicans were trolls and bad faith actors but then after this I knew that they really have no bottom line with how low they are willing to go. Truly evil what they did to those desperate families and kids when it would have been the easiest thing in the world to just not.",
">\n\nThis is not the same war crime Russia is doing in the Ukraine. It's a completely different war crime.",
">\n\nIt's sad and despicable that this is even necessary.",
">\n\nThis post has about 670 comments. Imagine if every single one of them was a family reunion. Heartbreaking cruelty from the last administration.",
">\n\nThe Trimp administration did a lot terrible things and had plenty of awful, harmful policies. But this is one of those times when it crossed the line into literal evil.",
">\n\nI figured this was happening in the background but damn it's heartbreaking that it's taking this long because of how thoroughly Trump fucked up any semblance of process for the DHS\nLike don't get me wrong, anyone who works for ICE is and always has been a disgusting pig, but they used to be disgusting pigs bound by similar levels of US bureaucracy as the rest of the government",
">\n\nThis was a very good thing to do and the media isn’t talking about it.",
">\n\nThis needs to be bigger news",
">\n\nWhat the hell AP, it was the US under Trump too. Maybe a better headline might have been \"Biden admin reunites nearly 700...\"",
">\n\nOur bad, we did teach the kid to walk and talk, she mostly knows to say “put your hands through the bars” but still.",
">\n\nThis is news I've been waiting 6 years for.",
">\n\nWas Eric one of them?",
">\n\nI will look for you, I will find you and I will reunite you",
">\n\nLike the motherfucking handmaids tale or some shit",
">\n\nIt's nice for the country to be taking a step back towards its ideals.",
">\n\nWhy the fuck is this not plastered all over the news? This was an international outrage for years and now it’s a tiny news story thrown in on a Friday? Whomever is in charge of the WH Press Office should be ashamed.",
">\n\nNot sure what the White House Press Office could do here if outlets simply don't bother pushing the story.",
">\n\nI want to know how many are still separated.\nEverything else is not good enough.",
">\n\nYou will need to do a slight bit of math when reading the article to get the exact number but it as about a thousand remaining to be united.",
">\n\nI feel for these kids (and their parents). Many of them have been sexually assaulted because no one was there to protect them.",
">\n\nGee, Trump reminds me of Hitler for some reason. Does anyone else see a similarity? One redeeming factor is that we all know how Hitler ended up.",
">\n\nIt is a great labor to undo great evils. \nGlad it's being done.",
">\n\nHow many in total were separated? 700 is great, but if there are still 1,000s more this should also be an equal amount of new coverage.",
">\n\nThe exact counts are in the article if you want them.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if the articles were meant to be read.",
">\n\nIt’s a good start",
">\n\nIs trump a Russian spy?\nA global traitor",
">\n\nWhen will the real criminals be put in jail?",
">\n\nvery nice to see this happen and hopefully never happens again.",
">\n\nI pray the remaining children are with US family members. This was an impeachable criminal act by Trump",
">\n\nThis was by far the most evil thing his administration did.",
">\n\nNow seperate Trump from his family.",
">\n\nI mean, damage done. If I was fleeing my home in terror from economic disaster, and the place I ran to stole my fucking kid from me, and I didn’t get them back for three years?…. I mean… that dude is a terrorist now. What is left in his life except to punish this country?",
">\n\nLock him up",
">\n\nSome good news",
">\n\nThis is not enough.",
">\n\nI was kidnapped and separated from one of my parents for a week when I was young. To be separated for such a long time… The shit is going to haunt those kids for the rest of their lives and they will likely hate those who put them through this. I know this firsthand just based how lost I felt in my experience.",
">\n\nSome good news.",
">\n\nOh, well that's good news.",
">\n\nBut I was told in 2016 that Democrats were the same as Republicans.",
">\n\nI know the mods have that thing about being courteous to others blah blah blah, but fuck trump...",
">\n\nYes, but there are still an estimated 1,000 more that they can’t even find yet. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nThe headline shouldn't exist but half the country literally voted for this to happen. It's insane. Ashamed to be an American.",
">\n\nAfter the last child is reunited with family, Melania's \"I don't really care do you\" jacket will be displayed in the Smithsonian.",
">\n\n*Biden administration reunites 700 kids taken from parents under trump",
">\n\nOnly 49,300 to go.",
">\n\nThe Trump administration was monstrous. If there is such a thing as Karma this country has a lot to pay for…",
">\n\nI hope they use this to finally lock up Trump and his goons. This is disgusting and a stain on the US.",
">\n\nThe right thing to do.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\n/r/Orphancrushingmachine",
">\n\nWhy are the Republicans such pieces of shit? The whole fucking Republican Party needs to be done away with permanently.",
">\n\nIts still happening. Reuniting kids is great and all but if the same policies that separated them still exist it doesn't mean anything",
">\n\nbelongs in /r/upliftingnews!",
">\n\nHonestly it baffles me why people see “horrendous injustice addressed after long delay” and say “/r/upliftingnews”. There’s nothing uplifting about this story, everyone should be enraged.",
">\n\nEveryone is enraged all the time about everything and then go to Reddit or Twitter to make comments which does nothing.",
">\n\nAt least enraged people acknowledge the problem. Toxic positivity does less than that.",
">\n\nGood. Shame on the previous terroristic administration for the separations in the first place.",
">\n\nBut my dad won’t be talking about this. \nOnly that Biden keeps on sending money to Ukraine and his social security is going to run out. \nIt’s kind of funny at this point.",
">\n\nRemind him that his social security will run out, but you won’t get any because we don’t fucking tax the rich like we did before the 80s.",
">\n\nGOP, the party of family values",
">\n\nPutin the dwarf and Donnie the orange-haired orangutan had a lot in common.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nAlternative headline: US returns some of the kids they stole and lost",
">\n\nPeace of garbage: Trump. Hope same happens to his children and grand children",
">\n\nFrom the thumbnail, i was confused and worried . I thought I was about to read Jeff Bezos stole kids to work in Amazon warehouses or something. >_< don't act like it's unreasonable given the last 7 years.",
">\n\nBiden administration making a task force to reunite families, after being in the administration that bolstered the same organization that separated the kids is a joke lol\nI beg for Reddit to look at the bigger picture then just “trump bad, blue good”",
">\n\nYou're incorrectly conflating two issues. \nDeportations have to happen if we are going to protect our borders. But we can be compassionate while deporting people, like by not over-crowding facilities, providing basic sanitary needs, and keeping families together as a unit throughout the process.\nThe Trump administration issued a \"zero tolerance\" family seperation policy. It meant that children were seperated from their families as a matter of policy, with no concern for proper record keeping to reunite the families once a verdict in their case had been reached. The administration also allowed its facilities to overcrowd, and there are many reports of inadequate sanitary supplies. \nTheir point was cruelty.\nThe policy was rescinded as soon as the Biden administration took office.",
">\n\nWe must protect our borders!!! 🔴 “booooooooo”\nWe must protect our borders!!! 🔵 “yeahhh!!!!”\nYou do know the majority of illegal immigration is from airplanes right? You do realize ICE in general illegally block’s asylum seekers yeah? We must protect the borders!!! \nZero tolerance, but only detaining “threats” (literally anyone a government body can deem a threat, just look at our jail system) is good! Bc framing it that was makes it better",
">\n\nIts like you're trying to weaponize missing the point",
">\n\nHopefully they were reunited back in their country of origin.",
">\n\nWhy?\nWhat's wrong with people coming to this country and becoming Americans?",
">\n\nHave you seen the amount of people screaming to deport legal asylum seekers lately?\nThey're brown, and from another place. That's all it takes for conservatives to hate and fear you.",
">\n\nHow many times does it need to be said.\nMilitary Industrial Organization",
">\n\nI am a single issue voter, and this is what I voted for",
">\n\nFinally. I was starting to wonder if the Biden administration had completely forgotten about them. Let's hope that they get every child safety reunited with their families.\nAlso, we can't just stop here with immigration- we need to safely let in more refugees and asylum seekers. If we can let in ones from Ukraine, then we should be able to let in ones from Syria and other countries.",
">\n\nI thought this started in 1997?",
">\n\nThis is to indicate that Trump is such a large ass that 700 children's parents were stuck under him.",
">\n\nB(ased)iden",
">\n\nCool. What about the rest of them? What about the kids who are still missing after being taken into the internment camps ICE set up?",
">\n\nPerfect is the enemy of good.",
">\n\nGotta accept a certain level of kids in cages?",
">\n\nOk, how many are left?",
">\n\nThe article has that information.",
">\n\nIt was more under biden. And even more under obama",
">\n\nWhat about the kids taken under the Obama administration? Oh, and also the Biden administration?",
">\n\nLet’s not pretend Biden hated deportations.",
">\n\nThis is entirely unrelated. Factually under Obama more people were deported than under Trump, but that's not the point. The point is that kids were being separated from their parents and due to some terrible logistical issues in some cases they had trouble linking them to their parents.",
">\n\nDon't come into the country illegally. Problem solved."
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People are always separated from their children when they go to jail. I wonder how the Biden administration is currently handling this. Do the kids go to the same jail cell as their parents, or are we not sending them to jail at all when they are caught entering illegally?
Edit: Ok, I had time to read up on this. Trump and Seasions had a “zero-tolerance” policy, which the Biden admin rescinded. So the answer to my question is people that are caught crossing illegally, if that’s the only law they broke, aren’t sent to jail at all. | [
"The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children. In 30 years from now we will be seeing documentaries about children who suffered permanent psychological damage at the hands of Trumps administration. People will be shocked to learn that the U.S. government focible took these peoples children and intentionally separated them to be cruel.",
">\n\nThe people who supported it will pretend they never knew anything about it and act shocked and disgusted.",
">\n\nThey already are claiming this did not happen or Obama did it or some other nonsense. Let me clear: Trump instituted a policy to forcibly separate children (including infants) from their legal asylum-seekng parents at the border. He did this to be cruel and scare people from coming. His minions then forgot to keep records of who the kids were.",
">\n\nI'd only argue with \"forgot.\" They intentionally didn't keep records so as to make it as difficult as possible to reunite these families. The cruelty was the point. In fact, they outright declared that they were doing this to try to dissuade people from coming to America. \"Try to seek asylum in America and we'll separate you from your kids who you'll never see again!\"",
">\n\n\"The laws are the laws\" = dead giveaway for a fascist. The law is there to serve the people. If it's not serving them, it should be changed.",
">\n\nWhat really gives away the game is politicians supporting and pushing through laws that do not have majority public support - anti-marijuana and abortion come to mind. Also the use of propaganda to try to affect levels of support for certain things.",
">\n\nA piece of legislation is almost always guaranteed to fail if it polls extremely popular with Americans on all sides. It's really sad...",
">\n\nYep, like “80% of Americans support this” and they’re uh… “oh but some discredited propaganda bullshit”. Really gives away who they are truly working for.",
">\n\nNo, they'll have their \"experts\" testify that they're correct. Then you find out the \"expert\" talking about MJ legalization is a LEO and the \"expert\" talking about abortion is a religious leader.",
">\n\nThe people who did this belong on trail for crimes against humanity at the Hague.\nActual consequences? Fuckin' crickets as usual.",
">\n\nReminder that under Bush the US granted itself permission to invade The Hague If an American citizen should ever be tried there.",
">\n\nWe should send Bush to be tried there.",
">\n\nTrump and his henchmen should be charged for these crimes. Of all of Trump's crimes, I think the concentration camps for immigrants and separating immigrants from their children were among the worst. We have to punish them or this will happen again next time they have the presidency.",
">\n\nAmerica doesn't punish Republican crimes.\n\nSource: Jan 6th",
">\n\nThe list of sources is very long.",
">\n\nIt starts at least with the Watergate. GWB never answered to war crimes or to lying to start a war. And Trump pardon the only person charged in the Valery Plane affair.",
">\n\nDidn't Nixon interfere with the peace process in Vietnam, extending the war so his opponent wouldn't get a win right before the election?",
">\n\nYep.",
">\n\nStephen Miller should be in a 6 x 9",
">\n\nAre there any cells smaller than that for that pea brained asshat?",
">\n\nThere’s a box",
">\n\nIf it fits it sits",
">\n\nThis program of separating parents from their children without documentation is going to be remembered in the same way we talk about the Syphilis Study at Tuskegee. Except that was the 1930s.\nOne of these days some of those kids are going to take their pound of flesh out of the United States either legally or violently, and they'll have right on their side.",
">\n\nnah, the fascists will have rewritten history in the US by then. Our kids will never learn about any of it unless we move.",
">\n\nPresident Ron Desantis III will remove it from the national curriculum.",
">\n\nProbably in a governor position he would still have that power",
">\n\nNever forget this was a crime against humanity. Conservatives supported it. Even your so called “moderate conservative friends”\nIf it had been your kid they wouldn’t give a fuck.\nIn 20 years people will call it a stain on our nation. But the sociopaths who enabled it are here right now.",
">\n\nThe sociopaths who enabled it are in a very good position to seize absolute control of our country, too.",
">\n\nDon’t forget that it’s the trump supporters that empowered the sociopaths.",
">\n\nIt boggles my mind how there isn't a bigger deal made of this. They stole kids from their parents. Any time it pops into my head, I'm infuriated. In a just world, Trump and his administration would be harshly punished.",
">\n\nSeriously. It is crime against HUMANITY",
">\n\nDOJ should throw kidnapping charges onto the pile of Trump crimes.",
">\n\nKidnapped. That's called kidnapping.",
">\n\nAbduction, human trafficking, genocide.\nTake your pick.",
">\n\nThis needs to be made into a drama doc, like the recent Jeffrey Dahmer series. I guarantee it would make a compelling story, and if done right, it would reach even strong trump supporters just by virtue of it's entertainment value. \nThis whole debacle was one of the cruelest things the US has done in decades, and it was done with Glee by a mentally unstable maniac and his supporters. The sooner we see it through the lens of history and regret, the better",
">\n\nWe better hurry before the republicans ban all history.",
">\n\nThis is only happening because trump never had a plan to reunite the families.\nFor those in the back. He ripped apart families with NO INTENTION OF THEM EVER BEING REUNITED.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. In order to create a situation like this, they had to have the intent to prevent the reuniting of families.",
">\n\nIt pains me to think how great this nation could be if the government didnt have to spend time and resources fixing the things republican admins did",
">\n\nIt's such an insane cycle. Conservatives fuck shit up, Dems finally get back in and spend the entire time fixing shit, conservatives run on \"look, they didn't make anything better!\", get back in to fuck shit up. Rinse and repeat.",
">\n\nExcept Dems (if they actually focus on it) are usually only able to fix 70ish% of the budgetary and humanitarian issues that were cause by the previous administration. Then when they lose reelection we slip further backwards.",
">\n\nWhat do you mean if?",
">\n\nIf they focus on repairing damage instead of squabbling with each other (which happens a lot).",
">\n\nAs a Mexican immigrant I really appreciate this",
">\n\nI just wish we had received the same support nationwide like BLM did.",
">\n\nOutraged Republicans demand to know why they were not sold to traffickers as they planned.",
">\n\nThink of all that could have been accomplished in the same time with the same effort if we didn't need them to focus on this. Every Democratic administration is hobbled by needing to undo the evils of the Republicans before them. And it doesn't go the other way because it only takes a second to wreck something, but it takes time to do things right.",
">\n\nContrarily to what the aryicle stars, they were not crossing illegaly. They came as asylum seekers, which is legal. Many (all?) of them arrived at official points of entry. These are not people who were arrested crossing the river in the middle of the night (not that it would justify taking their kids in any way).",
">\n\nOf course the Republican subs are silent on this\nFuck trump",
">\n\ngiving them all citizenship and all of their families is the least we could do for what we've done to those kids",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nThey’ll still be traumatized for the rest of their lives. Drug addiction, depression, suicides will plague these children. If there were any justice, the architects of this policy should be charged with crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nTypical go to of Christian nationalists is to steal children.",
">\n\nI guess the conservatives are ok as long it isn't their child or children.",
">\n\nI want to remind everyone here that Trump's ICE not only separated countless children from their parents, they then \"LOST\" them. Trafficked. They trafficked them. But they called them \"lost\". Then, in an absolutely astounding act of evil and affirmation of cruelty, they released the numbers to the public: 1488 lost children.\nYes. That's right. 1488, the same number literal nazis hold sacred.\nThe depth of evil and abuse and violence the right has descended to should be SO MUCH more alarming to more people. In case you think the assertion that the children were trafficked is alarmist please remember when they caught ICE transporting children without paperwork in the dead of night or keeping children in hotels without due process then sending them back to mexico with no transition process so they were essentially homeless.",
">\n\nWow. That is incredibly evil.",
">\n\nThe GOP are the Nazis come again. Time is a flat circle and most of the circle is fascism",
">\n\nNearly 75 percent is better than I expected, and they're still working. One small cause for optimism.",
">\n\nI wouldn't call it a small cause. This is pretty massive, actually following through with fixing this disgusting miscarriage of justice. I remember reading about this stuff happening and thinking that it would have to be a priority for a new administration. Glad it's being handled.",
">\n\nI remember reading this and thinking ‘holy fucking shit’, and my view on USA has not been the same since.\nThe fact Trump still got 70+ million votes after mandating/ordering this policy is insane.",
">\n\nTrump voters tend to be low information. If they even heard about this, they heard someone on Fox/Newsmax/twitter defending it or saying it was fantastic while distorting the truth about it.",
">\n\nI’d like to think they were ignorant, but somehow it all adds up. I can’t let it go.",
">\n\nNot enough, but it’s a start.",
">\n\nCrimes against humanity.",
">\n\nJesus Christ Trump was a disaster, we're just now returning the kids to their parents though?!? The damage we caused will never go away.",
">\n\nOver 2000 were returned during the Trump administration so these are part of the harder to find parents.",
">\n\nSomething tells me this will not be on many news stations tonight.",
">\n\nFinally. This is why I voted in 2020",
">\n\nI will be enraged until the headline reads ALL!",
">\n\nUnfortunately, that might never happen given that the Trump administration managed to lose track of a bunch of them. I wish I was making that up.",
">\n\nHow about the DOJ criminally prosecute the architects and others who had a hand in this heinous crime?",
">\n\n\nAccording to figures released by the Department of Homeland Security, 3,881 children were separated from their families from 2017 to 2021. About 74% of those have been reunited with their families: 2,176 before the task force was created and 689 afterward.\nBut that still leaves nearly 1,000 children. Of those, 148 are in the reunification process. The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children.\n\nUgh, close but not close enough to fixing this mistake.",
">\n\nRemember when the Trump administration claimed that it was impossible to reunite the families?",
">\n\nWhy do we always have to clean up after Republicans? Getting tiresome.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that because the separation policy was specifically designed to deter certain kinds of people from seeking asylum, these kidnappings qualify as a crime against humanity under international law.",
">\n\nA whole bunch of them were trafficked to the upper Midwest to work the overnight shift on meat packing plant floors. It was only uncovered when one of their middle school teachers called CPS because these kids were coming in with severe chemical burns on their hands and arms. And, yes - after working the overnight shift cleaning a meat processing plant floor, these kids were going to school all day. The youngest was 12.",
">\n\nOh no. Just appalling",
">\n\nBecause it’s the right thing to do. Well done. Still going to be a long road toward healing for those poor kids.",
">\n\nI'm still stunned nobody has gone to jail for this and that the US public did not draw the line at this. It is sickening.",
">\n\nWe don’t get credit for fixing our own fuckup",
">\n\nIt is SHAMEFUL how these people were treated.",
">\n\nThat is wonderful news. Trump and his administration were so evil and cruel. I can't imagine how anyone could be so heartless.",
">\n\nHow many of these kids were molested by Trump supporters? Not zero.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to think if Trump was still POTUS, these (and likely many more) kids would still be lost.",
">\n\nNot enough is made over the evil that Trump and Stephen Miller committed during this fiasco. \nObjectively horrific, vile men.",
">\n\nNever forget there was one boy who died in his own vomit for hours before someone checked up on him. My blood still seethes thinking about it.\nHis name was Carlos Gregorio Hernandez Vasquez, he was 16 from Guatemala.",
">\n\nI'm very happy to read this. That said, the fact that this ever happened (and I don't care who it happens under) is disgusting and needs to be completely stopped from happening again.",
">\n\nThis should be much bigger news",
">\n\nHow many years were these kids without their parents in a government camp?",
">\n\nClose to four years.",
">\n\nOh yea I forgot he did this, the absolute sicko",
">\n\nThis is real oppressive fascist shit, my dear Americans. Except those who should hear this either won't read this or don't have a problem with it...",
">\n\nThis probably puts SStephen Miller in the deepest of funks.",
">\n\nGenuinely good news and a step towards righting an intentionally monstrous act.",
">\n\nhow many more are there? how many were raped? how many died?",
">\n\nIt's good to see the nation moving closer to its founding principles.",
">\n\nIf this is true, it’s the only news I heard today that I give a single fuck about. Wow. YES. Keep going. 100% reunification.",
">\n\nThere are still missing children.",
">\n\nTrAnS pEoPlE aRe GrOoMiNg OuR cHiLdReN. No, there not, and your outrage would be more effective if it targeted the POS you voted for.",
">\n\nTrump reign of terror was so barbaric.",
">\n\nThing is. .....Republicans are probably unhappy about this.",
">\n\nThis definitely put a smile on my face! :)",
">\n\nUS reunites nearly 700 kids taken from parents under ~~Trump~~ the republicans.",
">\n\nSomehow trump will take credit for this. He'll say something like how much better he made those parents appreciate their children and the children their parents. Ugh.",
">\n\nbold of you to assume he'll pay any attention at all to them.",
">\n\nHow I fucking wish \"Kids in cages\" never became the misleading rallying cry against Trump when kidnapped children was the more accurate description of what the administration was doing that needed to be stopped immediately.\nHow many times have you seen some galaxy brain talk about how \"Oh nobody says 'kids in cages' anymore now that it's ok Biden is doing it!\" Yeah it was a stupid and inaccurate criticism to begin with, because any kind of policy of detaining people caught trying to cross the border illegally will fit the \"kids in cages\" meme. \nThe entire reason people got mad at Trump beyond the border wall nonsense was because he specifically ordered a family separation policy that was designed to function as a cruel deterrent to immigration. The Obama administration was forced to adopt a family separation policy because courts ruled that minors could not be detained with adults when detained by ICE, but the Trump administration embraced this policy and added on kidnapping and forced separation across the country which resembled human trafficking more than any kind of immigration policy.\nAnd yeah, Biden is reuniting people while still maintaining a policy of not letting anyone cross the border anywhere at any time for any reason. We can talk about the ethics of detaining people caught trying to cross a national border illegally, and we should. But its an entirely separate discussion from whether one should steal their kids and ship them across the country and throw away the records of where they went.",
">\n\nAnother horrifying legacy of the US.",
">\n\nStephen Miller needs to be permanently attached to this heartless decision.",
">\n\nThe damage has been done. It's literally the least we can do is give them their children back.. I can't even believe that sentence needed to be said. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nFinally, someone thought of the children",
">\n\nYet another crime that orange gasbag will never be punished for…",
">\n\nThis chapter of Trump's presidency was truly mask off evil from the party that professes that they are the party of morals and family values. Before this people could argue that they could be afforded the benefit of the doubt. I kind of knew that Republicans were trolls and bad faith actors but then after this I knew that they really have no bottom line with how low they are willing to go. Truly evil what they did to those desperate families and kids when it would have been the easiest thing in the world to just not.",
">\n\nThis is not the same war crime Russia is doing in the Ukraine. It's a completely different war crime.",
">\n\nIt's sad and despicable that this is even necessary.",
">\n\nThis post has about 670 comments. Imagine if every single one of them was a family reunion. Heartbreaking cruelty from the last administration.",
">\n\nThe Trimp administration did a lot terrible things and had plenty of awful, harmful policies. But this is one of those times when it crossed the line into literal evil.",
">\n\nI figured this was happening in the background but damn it's heartbreaking that it's taking this long because of how thoroughly Trump fucked up any semblance of process for the DHS\nLike don't get me wrong, anyone who works for ICE is and always has been a disgusting pig, but they used to be disgusting pigs bound by similar levels of US bureaucracy as the rest of the government",
">\n\nThis was a very good thing to do and the media isn’t talking about it.",
">\n\nThis needs to be bigger news",
">\n\nWhat the hell AP, it was the US under Trump too. Maybe a better headline might have been \"Biden admin reunites nearly 700...\"",
">\n\nOur bad, we did teach the kid to walk and talk, she mostly knows to say “put your hands through the bars” but still.",
">\n\nThis is news I've been waiting 6 years for.",
">\n\nWas Eric one of them?",
">\n\nI will look for you, I will find you and I will reunite you",
">\n\nLike the motherfucking handmaids tale or some shit",
">\n\nIt's nice for the country to be taking a step back towards its ideals.",
">\n\nWhy the fuck is this not plastered all over the news? This was an international outrage for years and now it’s a tiny news story thrown in on a Friday? Whomever is in charge of the WH Press Office should be ashamed.",
">\n\nNot sure what the White House Press Office could do here if outlets simply don't bother pushing the story.",
">\n\nI want to know how many are still separated.\nEverything else is not good enough.",
">\n\nYou will need to do a slight bit of math when reading the article to get the exact number but it as about a thousand remaining to be united.",
">\n\nI feel for these kids (and their parents). Many of them have been sexually assaulted because no one was there to protect them.",
">\n\nGee, Trump reminds me of Hitler for some reason. Does anyone else see a similarity? One redeeming factor is that we all know how Hitler ended up.",
">\n\nIt is a great labor to undo great evils. \nGlad it's being done.",
">\n\nHow many in total were separated? 700 is great, but if there are still 1,000s more this should also be an equal amount of new coverage.",
">\n\nThe exact counts are in the article if you want them.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if the articles were meant to be read.",
">\n\nIt’s a good start",
">\n\nIs trump a Russian spy?\nA global traitor",
">\n\nWhen will the real criminals be put in jail?",
">\n\nvery nice to see this happen and hopefully never happens again.",
">\n\nI pray the remaining children are with US family members. This was an impeachable criminal act by Trump",
">\n\nThis was by far the most evil thing his administration did.",
">\n\nNow seperate Trump from his family.",
">\n\nI mean, damage done. If I was fleeing my home in terror from economic disaster, and the place I ran to stole my fucking kid from me, and I didn’t get them back for three years?…. I mean… that dude is a terrorist now. What is left in his life except to punish this country?",
">\n\nLock him up",
">\n\nSome good news",
">\n\nThis is not enough.",
">\n\nI was kidnapped and separated from one of my parents for a week when I was young. To be separated for such a long time… The shit is going to haunt those kids for the rest of their lives and they will likely hate those who put them through this. I know this firsthand just based how lost I felt in my experience.",
">\n\nSome good news.",
">\n\nOh, well that's good news.",
">\n\nBut I was told in 2016 that Democrats were the same as Republicans.",
">\n\nI know the mods have that thing about being courteous to others blah blah blah, but fuck trump...",
">\n\nYes, but there are still an estimated 1,000 more that they can’t even find yet. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nThe headline shouldn't exist but half the country literally voted for this to happen. It's insane. Ashamed to be an American.",
">\n\nAfter the last child is reunited with family, Melania's \"I don't really care do you\" jacket will be displayed in the Smithsonian.",
">\n\n*Biden administration reunites 700 kids taken from parents under trump",
">\n\nOnly 49,300 to go.",
">\n\nThe Trump administration was monstrous. If there is such a thing as Karma this country has a lot to pay for…",
">\n\nI hope they use this to finally lock up Trump and his goons. This is disgusting and a stain on the US.",
">\n\nThe right thing to do.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\n/r/Orphancrushingmachine",
">\n\nWhy are the Republicans such pieces of shit? The whole fucking Republican Party needs to be done away with permanently.",
">\n\nIts still happening. Reuniting kids is great and all but if the same policies that separated them still exist it doesn't mean anything",
">\n\nbelongs in /r/upliftingnews!",
">\n\nHonestly it baffles me why people see “horrendous injustice addressed after long delay” and say “/r/upliftingnews”. There’s nothing uplifting about this story, everyone should be enraged.",
">\n\nEveryone is enraged all the time about everything and then go to Reddit or Twitter to make comments which does nothing.",
">\n\nAt least enraged people acknowledge the problem. Toxic positivity does less than that.",
">\n\nGood. Shame on the previous terroristic administration for the separations in the first place.",
">\n\nBut my dad won’t be talking about this. \nOnly that Biden keeps on sending money to Ukraine and his social security is going to run out. \nIt’s kind of funny at this point.",
">\n\nRemind him that his social security will run out, but you won’t get any because we don’t fucking tax the rich like we did before the 80s.",
">\n\nGOP, the party of family values",
">\n\nPutin the dwarf and Donnie the orange-haired orangutan had a lot in common.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nAlternative headline: US returns some of the kids they stole and lost",
">\n\nPeace of garbage: Trump. Hope same happens to his children and grand children",
">\n\nFrom the thumbnail, i was confused and worried . I thought I was about to read Jeff Bezos stole kids to work in Amazon warehouses or something. >_< don't act like it's unreasonable given the last 7 years.",
">\n\nBiden administration making a task force to reunite families, after being in the administration that bolstered the same organization that separated the kids is a joke lol\nI beg for Reddit to look at the bigger picture then just “trump bad, blue good”",
">\n\nYou're incorrectly conflating two issues. \nDeportations have to happen if we are going to protect our borders. But we can be compassionate while deporting people, like by not over-crowding facilities, providing basic sanitary needs, and keeping families together as a unit throughout the process.\nThe Trump administration issued a \"zero tolerance\" family seperation policy. It meant that children were seperated from their families as a matter of policy, with no concern for proper record keeping to reunite the families once a verdict in their case had been reached. The administration also allowed its facilities to overcrowd, and there are many reports of inadequate sanitary supplies. \nTheir point was cruelty.\nThe policy was rescinded as soon as the Biden administration took office.",
">\n\nWe must protect our borders!!! 🔴 “booooooooo”\nWe must protect our borders!!! 🔵 “yeahhh!!!!”\nYou do know the majority of illegal immigration is from airplanes right? You do realize ICE in general illegally block’s asylum seekers yeah? We must protect the borders!!! \nZero tolerance, but only detaining “threats” (literally anyone a government body can deem a threat, just look at our jail system) is good! Bc framing it that was makes it better",
">\n\nIts like you're trying to weaponize missing the point",
">\n\nHopefully they were reunited back in their country of origin.",
">\n\nWhy?\nWhat's wrong with people coming to this country and becoming Americans?",
">\n\nHave you seen the amount of people screaming to deport legal asylum seekers lately?\nThey're brown, and from another place. That's all it takes for conservatives to hate and fear you.",
">\n\nHow many times does it need to be said.\nMilitary Industrial Organization",
">\n\nI am a single issue voter, and this is what I voted for",
">\n\nFinally. I was starting to wonder if the Biden administration had completely forgotten about them. Let's hope that they get every child safety reunited with their families.\nAlso, we can't just stop here with immigration- we need to safely let in more refugees and asylum seekers. If we can let in ones from Ukraine, then we should be able to let in ones from Syria and other countries.",
">\n\nI thought this started in 1997?",
">\n\nThis is to indicate that Trump is such a large ass that 700 children's parents were stuck under him.",
">\n\nB(ased)iden",
">\n\nCool. What about the rest of them? What about the kids who are still missing after being taken into the internment camps ICE set up?",
">\n\nPerfect is the enemy of good.",
">\n\nGotta accept a certain level of kids in cages?",
">\n\nOk, how many are left?",
">\n\nThe article has that information.",
">\n\nIt was more under biden. And even more under obama",
">\n\nWhat about the kids taken under the Obama administration? Oh, and also the Biden administration?",
">\n\nLet’s not pretend Biden hated deportations.",
">\n\nThis is entirely unrelated. Factually under Obama more people were deported than under Trump, but that's not the point. The point is that kids were being separated from their parents and due to some terrible logistical issues in some cases they had trouble linking them to their parents.",
">\n\nDon't come into the country illegally. Problem solved.",
">\n\nHow did your family get here?"
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Most of the people separated under the Trump plan were seeking asylum. Asylum seekers have broken no laws by coming here.
Prior to, and after Trump's administration, families were and are now again separated only in cases of proof of criminal activity such as violence, abuse, or smuggling. Trying to go from one country to the next without having your papers in order is not, and nor should it be, a crime. | [
"The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children. In 30 years from now we will be seeing documentaries about children who suffered permanent psychological damage at the hands of Trumps administration. People will be shocked to learn that the U.S. government focible took these peoples children and intentionally separated them to be cruel.",
">\n\nThe people who supported it will pretend they never knew anything about it and act shocked and disgusted.",
">\n\nThey already are claiming this did not happen or Obama did it or some other nonsense. Let me clear: Trump instituted a policy to forcibly separate children (including infants) from their legal asylum-seekng parents at the border. He did this to be cruel and scare people from coming. His minions then forgot to keep records of who the kids were.",
">\n\nI'd only argue with \"forgot.\" They intentionally didn't keep records so as to make it as difficult as possible to reunite these families. The cruelty was the point. In fact, they outright declared that they were doing this to try to dissuade people from coming to America. \"Try to seek asylum in America and we'll separate you from your kids who you'll never see again!\"",
">\n\n\"The laws are the laws\" = dead giveaway for a fascist. The law is there to serve the people. If it's not serving them, it should be changed.",
">\n\nWhat really gives away the game is politicians supporting and pushing through laws that do not have majority public support - anti-marijuana and abortion come to mind. Also the use of propaganda to try to affect levels of support for certain things.",
">\n\nA piece of legislation is almost always guaranteed to fail if it polls extremely popular with Americans on all sides. It's really sad...",
">\n\nYep, like “80% of Americans support this” and they’re uh… “oh but some discredited propaganda bullshit”. Really gives away who they are truly working for.",
">\n\nNo, they'll have their \"experts\" testify that they're correct. Then you find out the \"expert\" talking about MJ legalization is a LEO and the \"expert\" talking about abortion is a religious leader.",
">\n\nThe people who did this belong on trail for crimes against humanity at the Hague.\nActual consequences? Fuckin' crickets as usual.",
">\n\nReminder that under Bush the US granted itself permission to invade The Hague If an American citizen should ever be tried there.",
">\n\nWe should send Bush to be tried there.",
">\n\nTrump and his henchmen should be charged for these crimes. Of all of Trump's crimes, I think the concentration camps for immigrants and separating immigrants from their children were among the worst. We have to punish them or this will happen again next time they have the presidency.",
">\n\nAmerica doesn't punish Republican crimes.\n\nSource: Jan 6th",
">\n\nThe list of sources is very long.",
">\n\nIt starts at least with the Watergate. GWB never answered to war crimes or to lying to start a war. And Trump pardon the only person charged in the Valery Plane affair.",
">\n\nDidn't Nixon interfere with the peace process in Vietnam, extending the war so his opponent wouldn't get a win right before the election?",
">\n\nYep.",
">\n\nStephen Miller should be in a 6 x 9",
">\n\nAre there any cells smaller than that for that pea brained asshat?",
">\n\nThere’s a box",
">\n\nIf it fits it sits",
">\n\nThis program of separating parents from their children without documentation is going to be remembered in the same way we talk about the Syphilis Study at Tuskegee. Except that was the 1930s.\nOne of these days some of those kids are going to take their pound of flesh out of the United States either legally or violently, and they'll have right on their side.",
">\n\nnah, the fascists will have rewritten history in the US by then. Our kids will never learn about any of it unless we move.",
">\n\nPresident Ron Desantis III will remove it from the national curriculum.",
">\n\nProbably in a governor position he would still have that power",
">\n\nNever forget this was a crime against humanity. Conservatives supported it. Even your so called “moderate conservative friends”\nIf it had been your kid they wouldn’t give a fuck.\nIn 20 years people will call it a stain on our nation. But the sociopaths who enabled it are here right now.",
">\n\nThe sociopaths who enabled it are in a very good position to seize absolute control of our country, too.",
">\n\nDon’t forget that it’s the trump supporters that empowered the sociopaths.",
">\n\nIt boggles my mind how there isn't a bigger deal made of this. They stole kids from their parents. Any time it pops into my head, I'm infuriated. In a just world, Trump and his administration would be harshly punished.",
">\n\nSeriously. It is crime against HUMANITY",
">\n\nDOJ should throw kidnapping charges onto the pile of Trump crimes.",
">\n\nKidnapped. That's called kidnapping.",
">\n\nAbduction, human trafficking, genocide.\nTake your pick.",
">\n\nThis needs to be made into a drama doc, like the recent Jeffrey Dahmer series. I guarantee it would make a compelling story, and if done right, it would reach even strong trump supporters just by virtue of it's entertainment value. \nThis whole debacle was one of the cruelest things the US has done in decades, and it was done with Glee by a mentally unstable maniac and his supporters. The sooner we see it through the lens of history and regret, the better",
">\n\nWe better hurry before the republicans ban all history.",
">\n\nThis is only happening because trump never had a plan to reunite the families.\nFor those in the back. He ripped apart families with NO INTENTION OF THEM EVER BEING REUNITED.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. In order to create a situation like this, they had to have the intent to prevent the reuniting of families.",
">\n\nIt pains me to think how great this nation could be if the government didnt have to spend time and resources fixing the things republican admins did",
">\n\nIt's such an insane cycle. Conservatives fuck shit up, Dems finally get back in and spend the entire time fixing shit, conservatives run on \"look, they didn't make anything better!\", get back in to fuck shit up. Rinse and repeat.",
">\n\nExcept Dems (if they actually focus on it) are usually only able to fix 70ish% of the budgetary and humanitarian issues that were cause by the previous administration. Then when they lose reelection we slip further backwards.",
">\n\nWhat do you mean if?",
">\n\nIf they focus on repairing damage instead of squabbling with each other (which happens a lot).",
">\n\nAs a Mexican immigrant I really appreciate this",
">\n\nI just wish we had received the same support nationwide like BLM did.",
">\n\nOutraged Republicans demand to know why they were not sold to traffickers as they planned.",
">\n\nThink of all that could have been accomplished in the same time with the same effort if we didn't need them to focus on this. Every Democratic administration is hobbled by needing to undo the evils of the Republicans before them. And it doesn't go the other way because it only takes a second to wreck something, but it takes time to do things right.",
">\n\nContrarily to what the aryicle stars, they were not crossing illegaly. They came as asylum seekers, which is legal. Many (all?) of them arrived at official points of entry. These are not people who were arrested crossing the river in the middle of the night (not that it would justify taking their kids in any way).",
">\n\nOf course the Republican subs are silent on this\nFuck trump",
">\n\ngiving them all citizenship and all of their families is the least we could do for what we've done to those kids",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nThey’ll still be traumatized for the rest of their lives. Drug addiction, depression, suicides will plague these children. If there were any justice, the architects of this policy should be charged with crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nTypical go to of Christian nationalists is to steal children.",
">\n\nI guess the conservatives are ok as long it isn't their child or children.",
">\n\nI want to remind everyone here that Trump's ICE not only separated countless children from their parents, they then \"LOST\" them. Trafficked. They trafficked them. But they called them \"lost\". Then, in an absolutely astounding act of evil and affirmation of cruelty, they released the numbers to the public: 1488 lost children.\nYes. That's right. 1488, the same number literal nazis hold sacred.\nThe depth of evil and abuse and violence the right has descended to should be SO MUCH more alarming to more people. In case you think the assertion that the children were trafficked is alarmist please remember when they caught ICE transporting children without paperwork in the dead of night or keeping children in hotels without due process then sending them back to mexico with no transition process so they were essentially homeless.",
">\n\nWow. That is incredibly evil.",
">\n\nThe GOP are the Nazis come again. Time is a flat circle and most of the circle is fascism",
">\n\nNearly 75 percent is better than I expected, and they're still working. One small cause for optimism.",
">\n\nI wouldn't call it a small cause. This is pretty massive, actually following through with fixing this disgusting miscarriage of justice. I remember reading about this stuff happening and thinking that it would have to be a priority for a new administration. Glad it's being handled.",
">\n\nI remember reading this and thinking ‘holy fucking shit’, and my view on USA has not been the same since.\nThe fact Trump still got 70+ million votes after mandating/ordering this policy is insane.",
">\n\nTrump voters tend to be low information. If they even heard about this, they heard someone on Fox/Newsmax/twitter defending it or saying it was fantastic while distorting the truth about it.",
">\n\nI’d like to think they were ignorant, but somehow it all adds up. I can’t let it go.",
">\n\nNot enough, but it’s a start.",
">\n\nCrimes against humanity.",
">\n\nJesus Christ Trump was a disaster, we're just now returning the kids to their parents though?!? The damage we caused will never go away.",
">\n\nOver 2000 were returned during the Trump administration so these are part of the harder to find parents.",
">\n\nSomething tells me this will not be on many news stations tonight.",
">\n\nFinally. This is why I voted in 2020",
">\n\nI will be enraged until the headline reads ALL!",
">\n\nUnfortunately, that might never happen given that the Trump administration managed to lose track of a bunch of them. I wish I was making that up.",
">\n\nHow about the DOJ criminally prosecute the architects and others who had a hand in this heinous crime?",
">\n\n\nAccording to figures released by the Department of Homeland Security, 3,881 children were separated from their families from 2017 to 2021. About 74% of those have been reunited with their families: 2,176 before the task force was created and 689 afterward.\nBut that still leaves nearly 1,000 children. Of those, 148 are in the reunification process. The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children.\n\nUgh, close but not close enough to fixing this mistake.",
">\n\nRemember when the Trump administration claimed that it was impossible to reunite the families?",
">\n\nWhy do we always have to clean up after Republicans? Getting tiresome.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that because the separation policy was specifically designed to deter certain kinds of people from seeking asylum, these kidnappings qualify as a crime against humanity under international law.",
">\n\nA whole bunch of them were trafficked to the upper Midwest to work the overnight shift on meat packing plant floors. It was only uncovered when one of their middle school teachers called CPS because these kids were coming in with severe chemical burns on their hands and arms. And, yes - after working the overnight shift cleaning a meat processing plant floor, these kids were going to school all day. The youngest was 12.",
">\n\nOh no. Just appalling",
">\n\nBecause it’s the right thing to do. Well done. Still going to be a long road toward healing for those poor kids.",
">\n\nI'm still stunned nobody has gone to jail for this and that the US public did not draw the line at this. It is sickening.",
">\n\nWe don’t get credit for fixing our own fuckup",
">\n\nIt is SHAMEFUL how these people were treated.",
">\n\nThat is wonderful news. Trump and his administration were so evil and cruel. I can't imagine how anyone could be so heartless.",
">\n\nHow many of these kids were molested by Trump supporters? Not zero.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to think if Trump was still POTUS, these (and likely many more) kids would still be lost.",
">\n\nNot enough is made over the evil that Trump and Stephen Miller committed during this fiasco. \nObjectively horrific, vile men.",
">\n\nNever forget there was one boy who died in his own vomit for hours before someone checked up on him. My blood still seethes thinking about it.\nHis name was Carlos Gregorio Hernandez Vasquez, he was 16 from Guatemala.",
">\n\nI'm very happy to read this. That said, the fact that this ever happened (and I don't care who it happens under) is disgusting and needs to be completely stopped from happening again.",
">\n\nThis should be much bigger news",
">\n\nHow many years were these kids without their parents in a government camp?",
">\n\nClose to four years.",
">\n\nOh yea I forgot he did this, the absolute sicko",
">\n\nThis is real oppressive fascist shit, my dear Americans. Except those who should hear this either won't read this or don't have a problem with it...",
">\n\nThis probably puts SStephen Miller in the deepest of funks.",
">\n\nGenuinely good news and a step towards righting an intentionally monstrous act.",
">\n\nhow many more are there? how many were raped? how many died?",
">\n\nIt's good to see the nation moving closer to its founding principles.",
">\n\nIf this is true, it’s the only news I heard today that I give a single fuck about. Wow. YES. Keep going. 100% reunification.",
">\n\nThere are still missing children.",
">\n\nTrAnS pEoPlE aRe GrOoMiNg OuR cHiLdReN. No, there not, and your outrage would be more effective if it targeted the POS you voted for.",
">\n\nTrump reign of terror was so barbaric.",
">\n\nThing is. .....Republicans are probably unhappy about this.",
">\n\nThis definitely put a smile on my face! :)",
">\n\nUS reunites nearly 700 kids taken from parents under ~~Trump~~ the republicans.",
">\n\nSomehow trump will take credit for this. He'll say something like how much better he made those parents appreciate their children and the children their parents. Ugh.",
">\n\nbold of you to assume he'll pay any attention at all to them.",
">\n\nHow I fucking wish \"Kids in cages\" never became the misleading rallying cry against Trump when kidnapped children was the more accurate description of what the administration was doing that needed to be stopped immediately.\nHow many times have you seen some galaxy brain talk about how \"Oh nobody says 'kids in cages' anymore now that it's ok Biden is doing it!\" Yeah it was a stupid and inaccurate criticism to begin with, because any kind of policy of detaining people caught trying to cross the border illegally will fit the \"kids in cages\" meme. \nThe entire reason people got mad at Trump beyond the border wall nonsense was because he specifically ordered a family separation policy that was designed to function as a cruel deterrent to immigration. The Obama administration was forced to adopt a family separation policy because courts ruled that minors could not be detained with adults when detained by ICE, but the Trump administration embraced this policy and added on kidnapping and forced separation across the country which resembled human trafficking more than any kind of immigration policy.\nAnd yeah, Biden is reuniting people while still maintaining a policy of not letting anyone cross the border anywhere at any time for any reason. We can talk about the ethics of detaining people caught trying to cross a national border illegally, and we should. But its an entirely separate discussion from whether one should steal their kids and ship them across the country and throw away the records of where they went.",
">\n\nAnother horrifying legacy of the US.",
">\n\nStephen Miller needs to be permanently attached to this heartless decision.",
">\n\nThe damage has been done. It's literally the least we can do is give them their children back.. I can't even believe that sentence needed to be said. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nFinally, someone thought of the children",
">\n\nYet another crime that orange gasbag will never be punished for…",
">\n\nThis chapter of Trump's presidency was truly mask off evil from the party that professes that they are the party of morals and family values. Before this people could argue that they could be afforded the benefit of the doubt. I kind of knew that Republicans were trolls and bad faith actors but then after this I knew that they really have no bottom line with how low they are willing to go. Truly evil what they did to those desperate families and kids when it would have been the easiest thing in the world to just not.",
">\n\nThis is not the same war crime Russia is doing in the Ukraine. It's a completely different war crime.",
">\n\nIt's sad and despicable that this is even necessary.",
">\n\nThis post has about 670 comments. Imagine if every single one of them was a family reunion. Heartbreaking cruelty from the last administration.",
">\n\nThe Trimp administration did a lot terrible things and had plenty of awful, harmful policies. But this is one of those times when it crossed the line into literal evil.",
">\n\nI figured this was happening in the background but damn it's heartbreaking that it's taking this long because of how thoroughly Trump fucked up any semblance of process for the DHS\nLike don't get me wrong, anyone who works for ICE is and always has been a disgusting pig, but they used to be disgusting pigs bound by similar levels of US bureaucracy as the rest of the government",
">\n\nThis was a very good thing to do and the media isn’t talking about it.",
">\n\nThis needs to be bigger news",
">\n\nWhat the hell AP, it was the US under Trump too. Maybe a better headline might have been \"Biden admin reunites nearly 700...\"",
">\n\nOur bad, we did teach the kid to walk and talk, she mostly knows to say “put your hands through the bars” but still.",
">\n\nThis is news I've been waiting 6 years for.",
">\n\nWas Eric one of them?",
">\n\nI will look for you, I will find you and I will reunite you",
">\n\nLike the motherfucking handmaids tale or some shit",
">\n\nIt's nice for the country to be taking a step back towards its ideals.",
">\n\nWhy the fuck is this not plastered all over the news? This was an international outrage for years and now it’s a tiny news story thrown in on a Friday? Whomever is in charge of the WH Press Office should be ashamed.",
">\n\nNot sure what the White House Press Office could do here if outlets simply don't bother pushing the story.",
">\n\nI want to know how many are still separated.\nEverything else is not good enough.",
">\n\nYou will need to do a slight bit of math when reading the article to get the exact number but it as about a thousand remaining to be united.",
">\n\nI feel for these kids (and their parents). Many of them have been sexually assaulted because no one was there to protect them.",
">\n\nGee, Trump reminds me of Hitler for some reason. Does anyone else see a similarity? One redeeming factor is that we all know how Hitler ended up.",
">\n\nIt is a great labor to undo great evils. \nGlad it's being done.",
">\n\nHow many in total were separated? 700 is great, but if there are still 1,000s more this should also be an equal amount of new coverage.",
">\n\nThe exact counts are in the article if you want them.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if the articles were meant to be read.",
">\n\nIt’s a good start",
">\n\nIs trump a Russian spy?\nA global traitor",
">\n\nWhen will the real criminals be put in jail?",
">\n\nvery nice to see this happen and hopefully never happens again.",
">\n\nI pray the remaining children are with US family members. This was an impeachable criminal act by Trump",
">\n\nThis was by far the most evil thing his administration did.",
">\n\nNow seperate Trump from his family.",
">\n\nI mean, damage done. If I was fleeing my home in terror from economic disaster, and the place I ran to stole my fucking kid from me, and I didn’t get them back for three years?…. I mean… that dude is a terrorist now. What is left in his life except to punish this country?",
">\n\nLock him up",
">\n\nSome good news",
">\n\nThis is not enough.",
">\n\nI was kidnapped and separated from one of my parents for a week when I was young. To be separated for such a long time… The shit is going to haunt those kids for the rest of their lives and they will likely hate those who put them through this. I know this firsthand just based how lost I felt in my experience.",
">\n\nSome good news.",
">\n\nOh, well that's good news.",
">\n\nBut I was told in 2016 that Democrats were the same as Republicans.",
">\n\nI know the mods have that thing about being courteous to others blah blah blah, but fuck trump...",
">\n\nYes, but there are still an estimated 1,000 more that they can’t even find yet. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nThe headline shouldn't exist but half the country literally voted for this to happen. It's insane. Ashamed to be an American.",
">\n\nAfter the last child is reunited with family, Melania's \"I don't really care do you\" jacket will be displayed in the Smithsonian.",
">\n\n*Biden administration reunites 700 kids taken from parents under trump",
">\n\nOnly 49,300 to go.",
">\n\nThe Trump administration was monstrous. If there is such a thing as Karma this country has a lot to pay for…",
">\n\nI hope they use this to finally lock up Trump and his goons. This is disgusting and a stain on the US.",
">\n\nThe right thing to do.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\n/r/Orphancrushingmachine",
">\n\nWhy are the Republicans such pieces of shit? The whole fucking Republican Party needs to be done away with permanently.",
">\n\nIts still happening. Reuniting kids is great and all but if the same policies that separated them still exist it doesn't mean anything",
">\n\nbelongs in /r/upliftingnews!",
">\n\nHonestly it baffles me why people see “horrendous injustice addressed after long delay” and say “/r/upliftingnews”. There’s nothing uplifting about this story, everyone should be enraged.",
">\n\nEveryone is enraged all the time about everything and then go to Reddit or Twitter to make comments which does nothing.",
">\n\nAt least enraged people acknowledge the problem. Toxic positivity does less than that.",
">\n\nGood. Shame on the previous terroristic administration for the separations in the first place.",
">\n\nBut my dad won’t be talking about this. \nOnly that Biden keeps on sending money to Ukraine and his social security is going to run out. \nIt’s kind of funny at this point.",
">\n\nRemind him that his social security will run out, but you won’t get any because we don’t fucking tax the rich like we did before the 80s.",
">\n\nGOP, the party of family values",
">\n\nPutin the dwarf and Donnie the orange-haired orangutan had a lot in common.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nAlternative headline: US returns some of the kids they stole and lost",
">\n\nPeace of garbage: Trump. Hope same happens to his children and grand children",
">\n\nFrom the thumbnail, i was confused and worried . I thought I was about to read Jeff Bezos stole kids to work in Amazon warehouses or something. >_< don't act like it's unreasonable given the last 7 years.",
">\n\nBiden administration making a task force to reunite families, after being in the administration that bolstered the same organization that separated the kids is a joke lol\nI beg for Reddit to look at the bigger picture then just “trump bad, blue good”",
">\n\nYou're incorrectly conflating two issues. \nDeportations have to happen if we are going to protect our borders. But we can be compassionate while deporting people, like by not over-crowding facilities, providing basic sanitary needs, and keeping families together as a unit throughout the process.\nThe Trump administration issued a \"zero tolerance\" family seperation policy. It meant that children were seperated from their families as a matter of policy, with no concern for proper record keeping to reunite the families once a verdict in their case had been reached. The administration also allowed its facilities to overcrowd, and there are many reports of inadequate sanitary supplies. \nTheir point was cruelty.\nThe policy was rescinded as soon as the Biden administration took office.",
">\n\nWe must protect our borders!!! 🔴 “booooooooo”\nWe must protect our borders!!! 🔵 “yeahhh!!!!”\nYou do know the majority of illegal immigration is from airplanes right? You do realize ICE in general illegally block’s asylum seekers yeah? We must protect the borders!!! \nZero tolerance, but only detaining “threats” (literally anyone a government body can deem a threat, just look at our jail system) is good! Bc framing it that was makes it better",
">\n\nIts like you're trying to weaponize missing the point",
">\n\nHopefully they were reunited back in their country of origin.",
">\n\nWhy?\nWhat's wrong with people coming to this country and becoming Americans?",
">\n\nHave you seen the amount of people screaming to deport legal asylum seekers lately?\nThey're brown, and from another place. That's all it takes for conservatives to hate and fear you.",
">\n\nHow many times does it need to be said.\nMilitary Industrial Organization",
">\n\nI am a single issue voter, and this is what I voted for",
">\n\nFinally. I was starting to wonder if the Biden administration had completely forgotten about them. Let's hope that they get every child safety reunited with their families.\nAlso, we can't just stop here with immigration- we need to safely let in more refugees and asylum seekers. If we can let in ones from Ukraine, then we should be able to let in ones from Syria and other countries.",
">\n\nI thought this started in 1997?",
">\n\nThis is to indicate that Trump is such a large ass that 700 children's parents were stuck under him.",
">\n\nB(ased)iden",
">\n\nCool. What about the rest of them? What about the kids who are still missing after being taken into the internment camps ICE set up?",
">\n\nPerfect is the enemy of good.",
">\n\nGotta accept a certain level of kids in cages?",
">\n\nOk, how many are left?",
">\n\nThe article has that information.",
">\n\nIt was more under biden. And even more under obama",
">\n\nWhat about the kids taken under the Obama administration? Oh, and also the Biden administration?",
">\n\nLet’s not pretend Biden hated deportations.",
">\n\nThis is entirely unrelated. Factually under Obama more people were deported than under Trump, but that's not the point. The point is that kids were being separated from their parents and due to some terrible logistical issues in some cases they had trouble linking them to their parents.",
">\n\nDon't come into the country illegally. Problem solved.",
">\n\nHow did your family get here?",
">\n\nPeople are always separated from their children when they go to jail. I wonder how the Biden administration is currently handling this. Do the kids go to the same jail cell as their parents, or are we not sending them to jail at all when they are caught entering illegally?\nEdit: Ok, I had time to read up on this. Trump and Seasions had a “zero-tolerance” policy, which the Biden admin rescinded. So the answer to my question is people that are caught crossing illegally, if that’s the only law they broke, aren’t sent to jail at all."
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We need a democrat who can talk about how the republicans gave these kids brain damage. No more pro life or pro child bullshit they don’t care about kids it’s about power. We have a mute for president | [
"The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children. In 30 years from now we will be seeing documentaries about children who suffered permanent psychological damage at the hands of Trumps administration. People will be shocked to learn that the U.S. government focible took these peoples children and intentionally separated them to be cruel.",
">\n\nThe people who supported it will pretend they never knew anything about it and act shocked and disgusted.",
">\n\nThey already are claiming this did not happen or Obama did it or some other nonsense. Let me clear: Trump instituted a policy to forcibly separate children (including infants) from their legal asylum-seekng parents at the border. He did this to be cruel and scare people from coming. His minions then forgot to keep records of who the kids were.",
">\n\nI'd only argue with \"forgot.\" They intentionally didn't keep records so as to make it as difficult as possible to reunite these families. The cruelty was the point. In fact, they outright declared that they were doing this to try to dissuade people from coming to America. \"Try to seek asylum in America and we'll separate you from your kids who you'll never see again!\"",
">\n\n\"The laws are the laws\" = dead giveaway for a fascist. The law is there to serve the people. If it's not serving them, it should be changed.",
">\n\nWhat really gives away the game is politicians supporting and pushing through laws that do not have majority public support - anti-marijuana and abortion come to mind. Also the use of propaganda to try to affect levels of support for certain things.",
">\n\nA piece of legislation is almost always guaranteed to fail if it polls extremely popular with Americans on all sides. It's really sad...",
">\n\nYep, like “80% of Americans support this” and they’re uh… “oh but some discredited propaganda bullshit”. Really gives away who they are truly working for.",
">\n\nNo, they'll have their \"experts\" testify that they're correct. Then you find out the \"expert\" talking about MJ legalization is a LEO and the \"expert\" talking about abortion is a religious leader.",
">\n\nThe people who did this belong on trail for crimes against humanity at the Hague.\nActual consequences? Fuckin' crickets as usual.",
">\n\nReminder that under Bush the US granted itself permission to invade The Hague If an American citizen should ever be tried there.",
">\n\nWe should send Bush to be tried there.",
">\n\nTrump and his henchmen should be charged for these crimes. Of all of Trump's crimes, I think the concentration camps for immigrants and separating immigrants from their children were among the worst. We have to punish them or this will happen again next time they have the presidency.",
">\n\nAmerica doesn't punish Republican crimes.\n\nSource: Jan 6th",
">\n\nThe list of sources is very long.",
">\n\nIt starts at least with the Watergate. GWB never answered to war crimes or to lying to start a war. And Trump pardon the only person charged in the Valery Plane affair.",
">\n\nDidn't Nixon interfere with the peace process in Vietnam, extending the war so his opponent wouldn't get a win right before the election?",
">\n\nYep.",
">\n\nStephen Miller should be in a 6 x 9",
">\n\nAre there any cells smaller than that for that pea brained asshat?",
">\n\nThere’s a box",
">\n\nIf it fits it sits",
">\n\nThis program of separating parents from their children without documentation is going to be remembered in the same way we talk about the Syphilis Study at Tuskegee. Except that was the 1930s.\nOne of these days some of those kids are going to take their pound of flesh out of the United States either legally or violently, and they'll have right on their side.",
">\n\nnah, the fascists will have rewritten history in the US by then. Our kids will never learn about any of it unless we move.",
">\n\nPresident Ron Desantis III will remove it from the national curriculum.",
">\n\nProbably in a governor position he would still have that power",
">\n\nNever forget this was a crime against humanity. Conservatives supported it. Even your so called “moderate conservative friends”\nIf it had been your kid they wouldn’t give a fuck.\nIn 20 years people will call it a stain on our nation. But the sociopaths who enabled it are here right now.",
">\n\nThe sociopaths who enabled it are in a very good position to seize absolute control of our country, too.",
">\n\nDon’t forget that it’s the trump supporters that empowered the sociopaths.",
">\n\nIt boggles my mind how there isn't a bigger deal made of this. They stole kids from their parents. Any time it pops into my head, I'm infuriated. In a just world, Trump and his administration would be harshly punished.",
">\n\nSeriously. It is crime against HUMANITY",
">\n\nDOJ should throw kidnapping charges onto the pile of Trump crimes.",
">\n\nKidnapped. That's called kidnapping.",
">\n\nAbduction, human trafficking, genocide.\nTake your pick.",
">\n\nThis needs to be made into a drama doc, like the recent Jeffrey Dahmer series. I guarantee it would make a compelling story, and if done right, it would reach even strong trump supporters just by virtue of it's entertainment value. \nThis whole debacle was one of the cruelest things the US has done in decades, and it was done with Glee by a mentally unstable maniac and his supporters. The sooner we see it through the lens of history and regret, the better",
">\n\nWe better hurry before the republicans ban all history.",
">\n\nThis is only happening because trump never had a plan to reunite the families.\nFor those in the back. He ripped apart families with NO INTENTION OF THEM EVER BEING REUNITED.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. In order to create a situation like this, they had to have the intent to prevent the reuniting of families.",
">\n\nIt pains me to think how great this nation could be if the government didnt have to spend time and resources fixing the things republican admins did",
">\n\nIt's such an insane cycle. Conservatives fuck shit up, Dems finally get back in and spend the entire time fixing shit, conservatives run on \"look, they didn't make anything better!\", get back in to fuck shit up. Rinse and repeat.",
">\n\nExcept Dems (if they actually focus on it) are usually only able to fix 70ish% of the budgetary and humanitarian issues that were cause by the previous administration. Then when they lose reelection we slip further backwards.",
">\n\nWhat do you mean if?",
">\n\nIf they focus on repairing damage instead of squabbling with each other (which happens a lot).",
">\n\nAs a Mexican immigrant I really appreciate this",
">\n\nI just wish we had received the same support nationwide like BLM did.",
">\n\nOutraged Republicans demand to know why they were not sold to traffickers as they planned.",
">\n\nThink of all that could have been accomplished in the same time with the same effort if we didn't need them to focus on this. Every Democratic administration is hobbled by needing to undo the evils of the Republicans before them. And it doesn't go the other way because it only takes a second to wreck something, but it takes time to do things right.",
">\n\nContrarily to what the aryicle stars, they were not crossing illegaly. They came as asylum seekers, which is legal. Many (all?) of them arrived at official points of entry. These are not people who were arrested crossing the river in the middle of the night (not that it would justify taking their kids in any way).",
">\n\nOf course the Republican subs are silent on this\nFuck trump",
">\n\ngiving them all citizenship and all of their families is the least we could do for what we've done to those kids",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nThey’ll still be traumatized for the rest of their lives. Drug addiction, depression, suicides will plague these children. If there were any justice, the architects of this policy should be charged with crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nTypical go to of Christian nationalists is to steal children.",
">\n\nI guess the conservatives are ok as long it isn't their child or children.",
">\n\nI want to remind everyone here that Trump's ICE not only separated countless children from their parents, they then \"LOST\" them. Trafficked. They trafficked them. But they called them \"lost\". Then, in an absolutely astounding act of evil and affirmation of cruelty, they released the numbers to the public: 1488 lost children.\nYes. That's right. 1488, the same number literal nazis hold sacred.\nThe depth of evil and abuse and violence the right has descended to should be SO MUCH more alarming to more people. In case you think the assertion that the children were trafficked is alarmist please remember when they caught ICE transporting children without paperwork in the dead of night or keeping children in hotels without due process then sending them back to mexico with no transition process so they were essentially homeless.",
">\n\nWow. That is incredibly evil.",
">\n\nThe GOP are the Nazis come again. Time is a flat circle and most of the circle is fascism",
">\n\nNearly 75 percent is better than I expected, and they're still working. One small cause for optimism.",
">\n\nI wouldn't call it a small cause. This is pretty massive, actually following through with fixing this disgusting miscarriage of justice. I remember reading about this stuff happening and thinking that it would have to be a priority for a new administration. Glad it's being handled.",
">\n\nI remember reading this and thinking ‘holy fucking shit’, and my view on USA has not been the same since.\nThe fact Trump still got 70+ million votes after mandating/ordering this policy is insane.",
">\n\nTrump voters tend to be low information. If they even heard about this, they heard someone on Fox/Newsmax/twitter defending it or saying it was fantastic while distorting the truth about it.",
">\n\nI’d like to think they were ignorant, but somehow it all adds up. I can’t let it go.",
">\n\nNot enough, but it’s a start.",
">\n\nCrimes against humanity.",
">\n\nJesus Christ Trump was a disaster, we're just now returning the kids to their parents though?!? The damage we caused will never go away.",
">\n\nOver 2000 were returned during the Trump administration so these are part of the harder to find parents.",
">\n\nSomething tells me this will not be on many news stations tonight.",
">\n\nFinally. This is why I voted in 2020",
">\n\nI will be enraged until the headline reads ALL!",
">\n\nUnfortunately, that might never happen given that the Trump administration managed to lose track of a bunch of them. I wish I was making that up.",
">\n\nHow about the DOJ criminally prosecute the architects and others who had a hand in this heinous crime?",
">\n\n\nAccording to figures released by the Department of Homeland Security, 3,881 children were separated from their families from 2017 to 2021. About 74% of those have been reunited with their families: 2,176 before the task force was created and 689 afterward.\nBut that still leaves nearly 1,000 children. Of those, 148 are in the reunification process. The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children.\n\nUgh, close but not close enough to fixing this mistake.",
">\n\nRemember when the Trump administration claimed that it was impossible to reunite the families?",
">\n\nWhy do we always have to clean up after Republicans? Getting tiresome.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that because the separation policy was specifically designed to deter certain kinds of people from seeking asylum, these kidnappings qualify as a crime against humanity under international law.",
">\n\nA whole bunch of them were trafficked to the upper Midwest to work the overnight shift on meat packing plant floors. It was only uncovered when one of their middle school teachers called CPS because these kids were coming in with severe chemical burns on their hands and arms. And, yes - after working the overnight shift cleaning a meat processing plant floor, these kids were going to school all day. The youngest was 12.",
">\n\nOh no. Just appalling",
">\n\nBecause it’s the right thing to do. Well done. Still going to be a long road toward healing for those poor kids.",
">\n\nI'm still stunned nobody has gone to jail for this and that the US public did not draw the line at this. It is sickening.",
">\n\nWe don’t get credit for fixing our own fuckup",
">\n\nIt is SHAMEFUL how these people were treated.",
">\n\nThat is wonderful news. Trump and his administration were so evil and cruel. I can't imagine how anyone could be so heartless.",
">\n\nHow many of these kids were molested by Trump supporters? Not zero.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to think if Trump was still POTUS, these (and likely many more) kids would still be lost.",
">\n\nNot enough is made over the evil that Trump and Stephen Miller committed during this fiasco. \nObjectively horrific, vile men.",
">\n\nNever forget there was one boy who died in his own vomit for hours before someone checked up on him. My blood still seethes thinking about it.\nHis name was Carlos Gregorio Hernandez Vasquez, he was 16 from Guatemala.",
">\n\nI'm very happy to read this. That said, the fact that this ever happened (and I don't care who it happens under) is disgusting and needs to be completely stopped from happening again.",
">\n\nThis should be much bigger news",
">\n\nHow many years were these kids without their parents in a government camp?",
">\n\nClose to four years.",
">\n\nOh yea I forgot he did this, the absolute sicko",
">\n\nThis is real oppressive fascist shit, my dear Americans. Except those who should hear this either won't read this or don't have a problem with it...",
">\n\nThis probably puts SStephen Miller in the deepest of funks.",
">\n\nGenuinely good news and a step towards righting an intentionally monstrous act.",
">\n\nhow many more are there? how many were raped? how many died?",
">\n\nIt's good to see the nation moving closer to its founding principles.",
">\n\nIf this is true, it’s the only news I heard today that I give a single fuck about. Wow. YES. Keep going. 100% reunification.",
">\n\nThere are still missing children.",
">\n\nTrAnS pEoPlE aRe GrOoMiNg OuR cHiLdReN. No, there not, and your outrage would be more effective if it targeted the POS you voted for.",
">\n\nTrump reign of terror was so barbaric.",
">\n\nThing is. .....Republicans are probably unhappy about this.",
">\n\nThis definitely put a smile on my face! :)",
">\n\nUS reunites nearly 700 kids taken from parents under ~~Trump~~ the republicans.",
">\n\nSomehow trump will take credit for this. He'll say something like how much better he made those parents appreciate their children and the children their parents. Ugh.",
">\n\nbold of you to assume he'll pay any attention at all to them.",
">\n\nHow I fucking wish \"Kids in cages\" never became the misleading rallying cry against Trump when kidnapped children was the more accurate description of what the administration was doing that needed to be stopped immediately.\nHow many times have you seen some galaxy brain talk about how \"Oh nobody says 'kids in cages' anymore now that it's ok Biden is doing it!\" Yeah it was a stupid and inaccurate criticism to begin with, because any kind of policy of detaining people caught trying to cross the border illegally will fit the \"kids in cages\" meme. \nThe entire reason people got mad at Trump beyond the border wall nonsense was because he specifically ordered a family separation policy that was designed to function as a cruel deterrent to immigration. The Obama administration was forced to adopt a family separation policy because courts ruled that minors could not be detained with adults when detained by ICE, but the Trump administration embraced this policy and added on kidnapping and forced separation across the country which resembled human trafficking more than any kind of immigration policy.\nAnd yeah, Biden is reuniting people while still maintaining a policy of not letting anyone cross the border anywhere at any time for any reason. We can talk about the ethics of detaining people caught trying to cross a national border illegally, and we should. But its an entirely separate discussion from whether one should steal their kids and ship them across the country and throw away the records of where they went.",
">\n\nAnother horrifying legacy of the US.",
">\n\nStephen Miller needs to be permanently attached to this heartless decision.",
">\n\nThe damage has been done. It's literally the least we can do is give them their children back.. I can't even believe that sentence needed to be said. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nFinally, someone thought of the children",
">\n\nYet another crime that orange gasbag will never be punished for…",
">\n\nThis chapter of Trump's presidency was truly mask off evil from the party that professes that they are the party of morals and family values. Before this people could argue that they could be afforded the benefit of the doubt. I kind of knew that Republicans were trolls and bad faith actors but then after this I knew that they really have no bottom line with how low they are willing to go. Truly evil what they did to those desperate families and kids when it would have been the easiest thing in the world to just not.",
">\n\nThis is not the same war crime Russia is doing in the Ukraine. It's a completely different war crime.",
">\n\nIt's sad and despicable that this is even necessary.",
">\n\nThis post has about 670 comments. Imagine if every single one of them was a family reunion. Heartbreaking cruelty from the last administration.",
">\n\nThe Trimp administration did a lot terrible things and had plenty of awful, harmful policies. But this is one of those times when it crossed the line into literal evil.",
">\n\nI figured this was happening in the background but damn it's heartbreaking that it's taking this long because of how thoroughly Trump fucked up any semblance of process for the DHS\nLike don't get me wrong, anyone who works for ICE is and always has been a disgusting pig, but they used to be disgusting pigs bound by similar levels of US bureaucracy as the rest of the government",
">\n\nThis was a very good thing to do and the media isn’t talking about it.",
">\n\nThis needs to be bigger news",
">\n\nWhat the hell AP, it was the US under Trump too. Maybe a better headline might have been \"Biden admin reunites nearly 700...\"",
">\n\nOur bad, we did teach the kid to walk and talk, she mostly knows to say “put your hands through the bars” but still.",
">\n\nThis is news I've been waiting 6 years for.",
">\n\nWas Eric one of them?",
">\n\nI will look for you, I will find you and I will reunite you",
">\n\nLike the motherfucking handmaids tale or some shit",
">\n\nIt's nice for the country to be taking a step back towards its ideals.",
">\n\nWhy the fuck is this not plastered all over the news? This was an international outrage for years and now it’s a tiny news story thrown in on a Friday? Whomever is in charge of the WH Press Office should be ashamed.",
">\n\nNot sure what the White House Press Office could do here if outlets simply don't bother pushing the story.",
">\n\nI want to know how many are still separated.\nEverything else is not good enough.",
">\n\nYou will need to do a slight bit of math when reading the article to get the exact number but it as about a thousand remaining to be united.",
">\n\nI feel for these kids (and their parents). Many of them have been sexually assaulted because no one was there to protect them.",
">\n\nGee, Trump reminds me of Hitler for some reason. Does anyone else see a similarity? One redeeming factor is that we all know how Hitler ended up.",
">\n\nIt is a great labor to undo great evils. \nGlad it's being done.",
">\n\nHow many in total were separated? 700 is great, but if there are still 1,000s more this should also be an equal amount of new coverage.",
">\n\nThe exact counts are in the article if you want them.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if the articles were meant to be read.",
">\n\nIt’s a good start",
">\n\nIs trump a Russian spy?\nA global traitor",
">\n\nWhen will the real criminals be put in jail?",
">\n\nvery nice to see this happen and hopefully never happens again.",
">\n\nI pray the remaining children are with US family members. This was an impeachable criminal act by Trump",
">\n\nThis was by far the most evil thing his administration did.",
">\n\nNow seperate Trump from his family.",
">\n\nI mean, damage done. If I was fleeing my home in terror from economic disaster, and the place I ran to stole my fucking kid from me, and I didn’t get them back for three years?…. I mean… that dude is a terrorist now. What is left in his life except to punish this country?",
">\n\nLock him up",
">\n\nSome good news",
">\n\nThis is not enough.",
">\n\nI was kidnapped and separated from one of my parents for a week when I was young. To be separated for such a long time… The shit is going to haunt those kids for the rest of their lives and they will likely hate those who put them through this. I know this firsthand just based how lost I felt in my experience.",
">\n\nSome good news.",
">\n\nOh, well that's good news.",
">\n\nBut I was told in 2016 that Democrats were the same as Republicans.",
">\n\nI know the mods have that thing about being courteous to others blah blah blah, but fuck trump...",
">\n\nYes, but there are still an estimated 1,000 more that they can’t even find yet. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nThe headline shouldn't exist but half the country literally voted for this to happen. It's insane. Ashamed to be an American.",
">\n\nAfter the last child is reunited with family, Melania's \"I don't really care do you\" jacket will be displayed in the Smithsonian.",
">\n\n*Biden administration reunites 700 kids taken from parents under trump",
">\n\nOnly 49,300 to go.",
">\n\nThe Trump administration was monstrous. If there is such a thing as Karma this country has a lot to pay for…",
">\n\nI hope they use this to finally lock up Trump and his goons. This is disgusting and a stain on the US.",
">\n\nThe right thing to do.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\n/r/Orphancrushingmachine",
">\n\nWhy are the Republicans such pieces of shit? The whole fucking Republican Party needs to be done away with permanently.",
">\n\nIts still happening. Reuniting kids is great and all but if the same policies that separated them still exist it doesn't mean anything",
">\n\nbelongs in /r/upliftingnews!",
">\n\nHonestly it baffles me why people see “horrendous injustice addressed after long delay” and say “/r/upliftingnews”. There’s nothing uplifting about this story, everyone should be enraged.",
">\n\nEveryone is enraged all the time about everything and then go to Reddit or Twitter to make comments which does nothing.",
">\n\nAt least enraged people acknowledge the problem. Toxic positivity does less than that.",
">\n\nGood. Shame on the previous terroristic administration for the separations in the first place.",
">\n\nBut my dad won’t be talking about this. \nOnly that Biden keeps on sending money to Ukraine and his social security is going to run out. \nIt’s kind of funny at this point.",
">\n\nRemind him that his social security will run out, but you won’t get any because we don’t fucking tax the rich like we did before the 80s.",
">\n\nGOP, the party of family values",
">\n\nPutin the dwarf and Donnie the orange-haired orangutan had a lot in common.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nAlternative headline: US returns some of the kids they stole and lost",
">\n\nPeace of garbage: Trump. Hope same happens to his children and grand children",
">\n\nFrom the thumbnail, i was confused and worried . I thought I was about to read Jeff Bezos stole kids to work in Amazon warehouses or something. >_< don't act like it's unreasonable given the last 7 years.",
">\n\nBiden administration making a task force to reunite families, after being in the administration that bolstered the same organization that separated the kids is a joke lol\nI beg for Reddit to look at the bigger picture then just “trump bad, blue good”",
">\n\nYou're incorrectly conflating two issues. \nDeportations have to happen if we are going to protect our borders. But we can be compassionate while deporting people, like by not over-crowding facilities, providing basic sanitary needs, and keeping families together as a unit throughout the process.\nThe Trump administration issued a \"zero tolerance\" family seperation policy. It meant that children were seperated from their families as a matter of policy, with no concern for proper record keeping to reunite the families once a verdict in their case had been reached. The administration also allowed its facilities to overcrowd, and there are many reports of inadequate sanitary supplies. \nTheir point was cruelty.\nThe policy was rescinded as soon as the Biden administration took office.",
">\n\nWe must protect our borders!!! 🔴 “booooooooo”\nWe must protect our borders!!! 🔵 “yeahhh!!!!”\nYou do know the majority of illegal immigration is from airplanes right? You do realize ICE in general illegally block’s asylum seekers yeah? We must protect the borders!!! \nZero tolerance, but only detaining “threats” (literally anyone a government body can deem a threat, just look at our jail system) is good! Bc framing it that was makes it better",
">\n\nIts like you're trying to weaponize missing the point",
">\n\nHopefully they were reunited back in their country of origin.",
">\n\nWhy?\nWhat's wrong with people coming to this country and becoming Americans?",
">\n\nHave you seen the amount of people screaming to deport legal asylum seekers lately?\nThey're brown, and from another place. That's all it takes for conservatives to hate and fear you.",
">\n\nHow many times does it need to be said.\nMilitary Industrial Organization",
">\n\nI am a single issue voter, and this is what I voted for",
">\n\nFinally. I was starting to wonder if the Biden administration had completely forgotten about them. Let's hope that they get every child safety reunited with their families.\nAlso, we can't just stop here with immigration- we need to safely let in more refugees and asylum seekers. If we can let in ones from Ukraine, then we should be able to let in ones from Syria and other countries.",
">\n\nI thought this started in 1997?",
">\n\nThis is to indicate that Trump is such a large ass that 700 children's parents were stuck under him.",
">\n\nB(ased)iden",
">\n\nCool. What about the rest of them? What about the kids who are still missing after being taken into the internment camps ICE set up?",
">\n\nPerfect is the enemy of good.",
">\n\nGotta accept a certain level of kids in cages?",
">\n\nOk, how many are left?",
">\n\nThe article has that information.",
">\n\nIt was more under biden. And even more under obama",
">\n\nWhat about the kids taken under the Obama administration? Oh, and also the Biden administration?",
">\n\nLet’s not pretend Biden hated deportations.",
">\n\nThis is entirely unrelated. Factually under Obama more people were deported than under Trump, but that's not the point. The point is that kids were being separated from their parents and due to some terrible logistical issues in some cases they had trouble linking them to their parents.",
">\n\nDon't come into the country illegally. Problem solved.",
">\n\nHow did your family get here?",
">\n\nPeople are always separated from their children when they go to jail. I wonder how the Biden administration is currently handling this. Do the kids go to the same jail cell as their parents, or are we not sending them to jail at all when they are caught entering illegally?\nEdit: Ok, I had time to read up on this. Trump and Seasions had a “zero-tolerance” policy, which the Biden admin rescinded. So the answer to my question is people that are caught crossing illegally, if that’s the only law they broke, aren’t sent to jail at all.",
">\n\nMost of the people separated under the Trump plan were seeking asylum. Asylum seekers have broken no laws by coming here.\nPrior to, and after Trump's administration, families were and are now again separated only in cases of proof of criminal activity such as violence, abuse, or smuggling. Trying to go from one country to the next without having your papers in order is not, and nor should it be, a crime."
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"The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children. In 30 years from now we will be seeing documentaries about children who suffered permanent psychological damage at the hands of Trumps administration. People will be shocked to learn that the U.S. government focible took these peoples children and intentionally separated them to be cruel.",
">\n\nThe people who supported it will pretend they never knew anything about it and act shocked and disgusted.",
">\n\nThey already are claiming this did not happen or Obama did it or some other nonsense. Let me clear: Trump instituted a policy to forcibly separate children (including infants) from their legal asylum-seekng parents at the border. He did this to be cruel and scare people from coming. His minions then forgot to keep records of who the kids were.",
">\n\nI'd only argue with \"forgot.\" They intentionally didn't keep records so as to make it as difficult as possible to reunite these families. The cruelty was the point. In fact, they outright declared that they were doing this to try to dissuade people from coming to America. \"Try to seek asylum in America and we'll separate you from your kids who you'll never see again!\"",
">\n\n\"The laws are the laws\" = dead giveaway for a fascist. The law is there to serve the people. If it's not serving them, it should be changed.",
">\n\nWhat really gives away the game is politicians supporting and pushing through laws that do not have majority public support - anti-marijuana and abortion come to mind. Also the use of propaganda to try to affect levels of support for certain things.",
">\n\nA piece of legislation is almost always guaranteed to fail if it polls extremely popular with Americans on all sides. It's really sad...",
">\n\nYep, like “80% of Americans support this” and they’re uh… “oh but some discredited propaganda bullshit”. Really gives away who they are truly working for.",
">\n\nNo, they'll have their \"experts\" testify that they're correct. Then you find out the \"expert\" talking about MJ legalization is a LEO and the \"expert\" talking about abortion is a religious leader.",
">\n\nThe people who did this belong on trail for crimes against humanity at the Hague.\nActual consequences? Fuckin' crickets as usual.",
">\n\nReminder that under Bush the US granted itself permission to invade The Hague If an American citizen should ever be tried there.",
">\n\nWe should send Bush to be tried there.",
">\n\nTrump and his henchmen should be charged for these crimes. Of all of Trump's crimes, I think the concentration camps for immigrants and separating immigrants from their children were among the worst. We have to punish them or this will happen again next time they have the presidency.",
">\n\nAmerica doesn't punish Republican crimes.\n\nSource: Jan 6th",
">\n\nThe list of sources is very long.",
">\n\nIt starts at least with the Watergate. GWB never answered to war crimes or to lying to start a war. And Trump pardon the only person charged in the Valery Plane affair.",
">\n\nDidn't Nixon interfere with the peace process in Vietnam, extending the war so his opponent wouldn't get a win right before the election?",
">\n\nYep.",
">\n\nStephen Miller should be in a 6 x 9",
">\n\nAre there any cells smaller than that for that pea brained asshat?",
">\n\nThere’s a box",
">\n\nIf it fits it sits",
">\n\nThis program of separating parents from their children without documentation is going to be remembered in the same way we talk about the Syphilis Study at Tuskegee. Except that was the 1930s.\nOne of these days some of those kids are going to take their pound of flesh out of the United States either legally or violently, and they'll have right on their side.",
">\n\nnah, the fascists will have rewritten history in the US by then. Our kids will never learn about any of it unless we move.",
">\n\nPresident Ron Desantis III will remove it from the national curriculum.",
">\n\nProbably in a governor position he would still have that power",
">\n\nNever forget this was a crime against humanity. Conservatives supported it. Even your so called “moderate conservative friends”\nIf it had been your kid they wouldn’t give a fuck.\nIn 20 years people will call it a stain on our nation. But the sociopaths who enabled it are here right now.",
">\n\nThe sociopaths who enabled it are in a very good position to seize absolute control of our country, too.",
">\n\nDon’t forget that it’s the trump supporters that empowered the sociopaths.",
">\n\nIt boggles my mind how there isn't a bigger deal made of this. They stole kids from their parents. Any time it pops into my head, I'm infuriated. In a just world, Trump and his administration would be harshly punished.",
">\n\nSeriously. It is crime against HUMANITY",
">\n\nDOJ should throw kidnapping charges onto the pile of Trump crimes.",
">\n\nKidnapped. That's called kidnapping.",
">\n\nAbduction, human trafficking, genocide.\nTake your pick.",
">\n\nThis needs to be made into a drama doc, like the recent Jeffrey Dahmer series. I guarantee it would make a compelling story, and if done right, it would reach even strong trump supporters just by virtue of it's entertainment value. \nThis whole debacle was one of the cruelest things the US has done in decades, and it was done with Glee by a mentally unstable maniac and his supporters. The sooner we see it through the lens of history and regret, the better",
">\n\nWe better hurry before the republicans ban all history.",
">\n\nThis is only happening because trump never had a plan to reunite the families.\nFor those in the back. He ripped apart families with NO INTENTION OF THEM EVER BEING REUNITED.",
">\n\nIt's not even that. In order to create a situation like this, they had to have the intent to prevent the reuniting of families.",
">\n\nIt pains me to think how great this nation could be if the government didnt have to spend time and resources fixing the things republican admins did",
">\n\nIt's such an insane cycle. Conservatives fuck shit up, Dems finally get back in and spend the entire time fixing shit, conservatives run on \"look, they didn't make anything better!\", get back in to fuck shit up. Rinse and repeat.",
">\n\nExcept Dems (if they actually focus on it) are usually only able to fix 70ish% of the budgetary and humanitarian issues that were cause by the previous administration. Then when they lose reelection we slip further backwards.",
">\n\nWhat do you mean if?",
">\n\nIf they focus on repairing damage instead of squabbling with each other (which happens a lot).",
">\n\nAs a Mexican immigrant I really appreciate this",
">\n\nI just wish we had received the same support nationwide like BLM did.",
">\n\nOutraged Republicans demand to know why they were not sold to traffickers as they planned.",
">\n\nThink of all that could have been accomplished in the same time with the same effort if we didn't need them to focus on this. Every Democratic administration is hobbled by needing to undo the evils of the Republicans before them. And it doesn't go the other way because it only takes a second to wreck something, but it takes time to do things right.",
">\n\nContrarily to what the aryicle stars, they were not crossing illegaly. They came as asylum seekers, which is legal. Many (all?) of them arrived at official points of entry. These are not people who were arrested crossing the river in the middle of the night (not that it would justify taking their kids in any way).",
">\n\nOf course the Republican subs are silent on this\nFuck trump",
">\n\ngiving them all citizenship and all of their families is the least we could do for what we've done to those kids",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nThey’ll still be traumatized for the rest of their lives. Drug addiction, depression, suicides will plague these children. If there were any justice, the architects of this policy should be charged with crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nTypical go to of Christian nationalists is to steal children.",
">\n\nI guess the conservatives are ok as long it isn't their child or children.",
">\n\nI want to remind everyone here that Trump's ICE not only separated countless children from their parents, they then \"LOST\" them. Trafficked. They trafficked them. But they called them \"lost\". Then, in an absolutely astounding act of evil and affirmation of cruelty, they released the numbers to the public: 1488 lost children.\nYes. That's right. 1488, the same number literal nazis hold sacred.\nThe depth of evil and abuse and violence the right has descended to should be SO MUCH more alarming to more people. In case you think the assertion that the children were trafficked is alarmist please remember when they caught ICE transporting children without paperwork in the dead of night or keeping children in hotels without due process then sending them back to mexico with no transition process so they were essentially homeless.",
">\n\nWow. That is incredibly evil.",
">\n\nThe GOP are the Nazis come again. Time is a flat circle and most of the circle is fascism",
">\n\nNearly 75 percent is better than I expected, and they're still working. One small cause for optimism.",
">\n\nI wouldn't call it a small cause. This is pretty massive, actually following through with fixing this disgusting miscarriage of justice. I remember reading about this stuff happening and thinking that it would have to be a priority for a new administration. Glad it's being handled.",
">\n\nI remember reading this and thinking ‘holy fucking shit’, and my view on USA has not been the same since.\nThe fact Trump still got 70+ million votes after mandating/ordering this policy is insane.",
">\n\nTrump voters tend to be low information. If they even heard about this, they heard someone on Fox/Newsmax/twitter defending it or saying it was fantastic while distorting the truth about it.",
">\n\nI’d like to think they were ignorant, but somehow it all adds up. I can’t let it go.",
">\n\nNot enough, but it’s a start.",
">\n\nCrimes against humanity.",
">\n\nJesus Christ Trump was a disaster, we're just now returning the kids to their parents though?!? The damage we caused will never go away.",
">\n\nOver 2000 were returned during the Trump administration so these are part of the harder to find parents.",
">\n\nSomething tells me this will not be on many news stations tonight.",
">\n\nFinally. This is why I voted in 2020",
">\n\nI will be enraged until the headline reads ALL!",
">\n\nUnfortunately, that might never happen given that the Trump administration managed to lose track of a bunch of them. I wish I was making that up.",
">\n\nHow about the DOJ criminally prosecute the architects and others who had a hand in this heinous crime?",
">\n\n\nAccording to figures released by the Department of Homeland Security, 3,881 children were separated from their families from 2017 to 2021. About 74% of those have been reunited with their families: 2,176 before the task force was created and 689 afterward.\nBut that still leaves nearly 1,000 children. Of those, 148 are in the reunification process. The department pledged to continue the work until all separated families that can be found have the opportunity to reunite with their children.\n\nUgh, close but not close enough to fixing this mistake.",
">\n\nRemember when the Trump administration claimed that it was impossible to reunite the families?",
">\n\nWhy do we always have to clean up after Republicans? Getting tiresome.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that because the separation policy was specifically designed to deter certain kinds of people from seeking asylum, these kidnappings qualify as a crime against humanity under international law.",
">\n\nA whole bunch of them were trafficked to the upper Midwest to work the overnight shift on meat packing plant floors. It was only uncovered when one of their middle school teachers called CPS because these kids were coming in with severe chemical burns on their hands and arms. And, yes - after working the overnight shift cleaning a meat processing plant floor, these kids were going to school all day. The youngest was 12.",
">\n\nOh no. Just appalling",
">\n\nBecause it’s the right thing to do. Well done. Still going to be a long road toward healing for those poor kids.",
">\n\nI'm still stunned nobody has gone to jail for this and that the US public did not draw the line at this. It is sickening.",
">\n\nWe don’t get credit for fixing our own fuckup",
">\n\nIt is SHAMEFUL how these people were treated.",
">\n\nThat is wonderful news. Trump and his administration were so evil and cruel. I can't imagine how anyone could be so heartless.",
">\n\nHow many of these kids were molested by Trump supporters? Not zero.",
">\n\nIt's crazy to think if Trump was still POTUS, these (and likely many more) kids would still be lost.",
">\n\nNot enough is made over the evil that Trump and Stephen Miller committed during this fiasco. \nObjectively horrific, vile men.",
">\n\nNever forget there was one boy who died in his own vomit for hours before someone checked up on him. My blood still seethes thinking about it.\nHis name was Carlos Gregorio Hernandez Vasquez, he was 16 from Guatemala.",
">\n\nI'm very happy to read this. That said, the fact that this ever happened (and I don't care who it happens under) is disgusting and needs to be completely stopped from happening again.",
">\n\nThis should be much bigger news",
">\n\nHow many years were these kids without their parents in a government camp?",
">\n\nClose to four years.",
">\n\nOh yea I forgot he did this, the absolute sicko",
">\n\nThis is real oppressive fascist shit, my dear Americans. Except those who should hear this either won't read this or don't have a problem with it...",
">\n\nThis probably puts SStephen Miller in the deepest of funks.",
">\n\nGenuinely good news and a step towards righting an intentionally monstrous act.",
">\n\nhow many more are there? how many were raped? how many died?",
">\n\nIt's good to see the nation moving closer to its founding principles.",
">\n\nIf this is true, it’s the only news I heard today that I give a single fuck about. Wow. YES. Keep going. 100% reunification.",
">\n\nThere are still missing children.",
">\n\nTrAnS pEoPlE aRe GrOoMiNg OuR cHiLdReN. No, there not, and your outrage would be more effective if it targeted the POS you voted for.",
">\n\nTrump reign of terror was so barbaric.",
">\n\nThing is. .....Republicans are probably unhappy about this.",
">\n\nThis definitely put a smile on my face! :)",
">\n\nUS reunites nearly 700 kids taken from parents under ~~Trump~~ the republicans.",
">\n\nSomehow trump will take credit for this. He'll say something like how much better he made those parents appreciate their children and the children their parents. Ugh.",
">\n\nbold of you to assume he'll pay any attention at all to them.",
">\n\nHow I fucking wish \"Kids in cages\" never became the misleading rallying cry against Trump when kidnapped children was the more accurate description of what the administration was doing that needed to be stopped immediately.\nHow many times have you seen some galaxy brain talk about how \"Oh nobody says 'kids in cages' anymore now that it's ok Biden is doing it!\" Yeah it was a stupid and inaccurate criticism to begin with, because any kind of policy of detaining people caught trying to cross the border illegally will fit the \"kids in cages\" meme. \nThe entire reason people got mad at Trump beyond the border wall nonsense was because he specifically ordered a family separation policy that was designed to function as a cruel deterrent to immigration. The Obama administration was forced to adopt a family separation policy because courts ruled that minors could not be detained with adults when detained by ICE, but the Trump administration embraced this policy and added on kidnapping and forced separation across the country which resembled human trafficking more than any kind of immigration policy.\nAnd yeah, Biden is reuniting people while still maintaining a policy of not letting anyone cross the border anywhere at any time for any reason. We can talk about the ethics of detaining people caught trying to cross a national border illegally, and we should. But its an entirely separate discussion from whether one should steal their kids and ship them across the country and throw away the records of where they went.",
">\n\nAnother horrifying legacy of the US.",
">\n\nStephen Miller needs to be permanently attached to this heartless decision.",
">\n\nThe damage has been done. It's literally the least we can do is give them their children back.. I can't even believe that sentence needed to be said. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nFinally, someone thought of the children",
">\n\nYet another crime that orange gasbag will never be punished for…",
">\n\nThis chapter of Trump's presidency was truly mask off evil from the party that professes that they are the party of morals and family values. Before this people could argue that they could be afforded the benefit of the doubt. I kind of knew that Republicans were trolls and bad faith actors but then after this I knew that they really have no bottom line with how low they are willing to go. Truly evil what they did to those desperate families and kids when it would have been the easiest thing in the world to just not.",
">\n\nThis is not the same war crime Russia is doing in the Ukraine. It's a completely different war crime.",
">\n\nIt's sad and despicable that this is even necessary.",
">\n\nThis post has about 670 comments. Imagine if every single one of them was a family reunion. Heartbreaking cruelty from the last administration.",
">\n\nThe Trimp administration did a lot terrible things and had plenty of awful, harmful policies. But this is one of those times when it crossed the line into literal evil.",
">\n\nI figured this was happening in the background but damn it's heartbreaking that it's taking this long because of how thoroughly Trump fucked up any semblance of process for the DHS\nLike don't get me wrong, anyone who works for ICE is and always has been a disgusting pig, but they used to be disgusting pigs bound by similar levels of US bureaucracy as the rest of the government",
">\n\nThis was a very good thing to do and the media isn’t talking about it.",
">\n\nThis needs to be bigger news",
">\n\nWhat the hell AP, it was the US under Trump too. Maybe a better headline might have been \"Biden admin reunites nearly 700...\"",
">\n\nOur bad, we did teach the kid to walk and talk, she mostly knows to say “put your hands through the bars” but still.",
">\n\nThis is news I've been waiting 6 years for.",
">\n\nWas Eric one of them?",
">\n\nI will look for you, I will find you and I will reunite you",
">\n\nLike the motherfucking handmaids tale or some shit",
">\n\nIt's nice for the country to be taking a step back towards its ideals.",
">\n\nWhy the fuck is this not plastered all over the news? This was an international outrage for years and now it’s a tiny news story thrown in on a Friday? Whomever is in charge of the WH Press Office should be ashamed.",
">\n\nNot sure what the White House Press Office could do here if outlets simply don't bother pushing the story.",
">\n\nI want to know how many are still separated.\nEverything else is not good enough.",
">\n\nYou will need to do a slight bit of math when reading the article to get the exact number but it as about a thousand remaining to be united.",
">\n\nI feel for these kids (and their parents). Many of them have been sexually assaulted because no one was there to protect them.",
">\n\nGee, Trump reminds me of Hitler for some reason. Does anyone else see a similarity? One redeeming factor is that we all know how Hitler ended up.",
">\n\nIt is a great labor to undo great evils. \nGlad it's being done.",
">\n\nHow many in total were separated? 700 is great, but if there are still 1,000s more this should also be an equal amount of new coverage.",
">\n\nThe exact counts are in the article if you want them.",
">\n\nIt’s almost as if the articles were meant to be read.",
">\n\nIt’s a good start",
">\n\nIs trump a Russian spy?\nA global traitor",
">\n\nWhen will the real criminals be put in jail?",
">\n\nvery nice to see this happen and hopefully never happens again.",
">\n\nI pray the remaining children are with US family members. This was an impeachable criminal act by Trump",
">\n\nThis was by far the most evil thing his administration did.",
">\n\nNow seperate Trump from his family.",
">\n\nI mean, damage done. If I was fleeing my home in terror from economic disaster, and the place I ran to stole my fucking kid from me, and I didn’t get them back for three years?…. I mean… that dude is a terrorist now. What is left in his life except to punish this country?",
">\n\nLock him up",
">\n\nSome good news",
">\n\nThis is not enough.",
">\n\nI was kidnapped and separated from one of my parents for a week when I was young. To be separated for such a long time… The shit is going to haunt those kids for the rest of their lives and they will likely hate those who put them through this. I know this firsthand just based how lost I felt in my experience.",
">\n\nSome good news.",
">\n\nOh, well that's good news.",
">\n\nBut I was told in 2016 that Democrats were the same as Republicans.",
">\n\nI know the mods have that thing about being courteous to others blah blah blah, but fuck trump...",
">\n\nYes, but there are still an estimated 1,000 more that they can’t even find yet. Fuck Trump.",
">\n\nThe headline shouldn't exist but half the country literally voted for this to happen. It's insane. Ashamed to be an American.",
">\n\nAfter the last child is reunited with family, Melania's \"I don't really care do you\" jacket will be displayed in the Smithsonian.",
">\n\n*Biden administration reunites 700 kids taken from parents under trump",
">\n\nOnly 49,300 to go.",
">\n\nThe Trump administration was monstrous. If there is such a thing as Karma this country has a lot to pay for…",
">\n\nI hope they use this to finally lock up Trump and his goons. This is disgusting and a stain on the US.",
">\n\nThe right thing to do.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\n/r/Orphancrushingmachine",
">\n\nWhy are the Republicans such pieces of shit? The whole fucking Republican Party needs to be done away with permanently.",
">\n\nIts still happening. Reuniting kids is great and all but if the same policies that separated them still exist it doesn't mean anything",
">\n\nbelongs in /r/upliftingnews!",
">\n\nHonestly it baffles me why people see “horrendous injustice addressed after long delay” and say “/r/upliftingnews”. There’s nothing uplifting about this story, everyone should be enraged.",
">\n\nEveryone is enraged all the time about everything and then go to Reddit or Twitter to make comments which does nothing.",
">\n\nAt least enraged people acknowledge the problem. Toxic positivity does less than that.",
">\n\nGood. Shame on the previous terroristic administration for the separations in the first place.",
">\n\nBut my dad won’t be talking about this. \nOnly that Biden keeps on sending money to Ukraine and his social security is going to run out. \nIt’s kind of funny at this point.",
">\n\nRemind him that his social security will run out, but you won’t get any because we don’t fucking tax the rich like we did before the 80s.",
">\n\nGOP, the party of family values",
">\n\nPutin the dwarf and Donnie the orange-haired orangutan had a lot in common.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 69%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWASHINGTON - A Biden administration task force designed to reunite children separated from their families during President Trump's presidency has reconnected nearly 700 children with their families, officials said Thursday.\nPresident Joe Biden issued an executive order on his first day in office to reunite families that were split up under the Trump administration's widely condemned practice of forcibly separating parents and children at the U.S.-Mexico border to discourage illegal immigration.\nADVERTISEMENT. The Trump administration separated thousands of migrant parents from their children as it moved to criminally prosecute people for illegally crossing the southwestern border.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: family^#1 separated^#2 children^#3 reunite^#4 force^#5",
">\n\nAlternative headline: US returns some of the kids they stole and lost",
">\n\nPeace of garbage: Trump. Hope same happens to his children and grand children",
">\n\nFrom the thumbnail, i was confused and worried . I thought I was about to read Jeff Bezos stole kids to work in Amazon warehouses or something. >_< don't act like it's unreasonable given the last 7 years.",
">\n\nBiden administration making a task force to reunite families, after being in the administration that bolstered the same organization that separated the kids is a joke lol\nI beg for Reddit to look at the bigger picture then just “trump bad, blue good”",
">\n\nYou're incorrectly conflating two issues. \nDeportations have to happen if we are going to protect our borders. But we can be compassionate while deporting people, like by not over-crowding facilities, providing basic sanitary needs, and keeping families together as a unit throughout the process.\nThe Trump administration issued a \"zero tolerance\" family seperation policy. It meant that children were seperated from their families as a matter of policy, with no concern for proper record keeping to reunite the families once a verdict in their case had been reached. The administration also allowed its facilities to overcrowd, and there are many reports of inadequate sanitary supplies. \nTheir point was cruelty.\nThe policy was rescinded as soon as the Biden administration took office.",
">\n\nWe must protect our borders!!! 🔴 “booooooooo”\nWe must protect our borders!!! 🔵 “yeahhh!!!!”\nYou do know the majority of illegal immigration is from airplanes right? You do realize ICE in general illegally block’s asylum seekers yeah? We must protect the borders!!! \nZero tolerance, but only detaining “threats” (literally anyone a government body can deem a threat, just look at our jail system) is good! Bc framing it that was makes it better",
">\n\nIts like you're trying to weaponize missing the point",
">\n\nHopefully they were reunited back in their country of origin.",
">\n\nWhy?\nWhat's wrong with people coming to this country and becoming Americans?",
">\n\nHave you seen the amount of people screaming to deport legal asylum seekers lately?\nThey're brown, and from another place. That's all it takes for conservatives to hate and fear you.",
">\n\nHow many times does it need to be said.\nMilitary Industrial Organization",
">\n\nI am a single issue voter, and this is what I voted for",
">\n\nFinally. I was starting to wonder if the Biden administration had completely forgotten about them. Let's hope that they get every child safety reunited with their families.\nAlso, we can't just stop here with immigration- we need to safely let in more refugees and asylum seekers. If we can let in ones from Ukraine, then we should be able to let in ones from Syria and other countries.",
">\n\nI thought this started in 1997?",
">\n\nThis is to indicate that Trump is such a large ass that 700 children's parents were stuck under him.",
">\n\nB(ased)iden",
">\n\nCool. What about the rest of them? What about the kids who are still missing after being taken into the internment camps ICE set up?",
">\n\nPerfect is the enemy of good.",
">\n\nGotta accept a certain level of kids in cages?",
">\n\nOk, how many are left?",
">\n\nThe article has that information.",
">\n\nIt was more under biden. And even more under obama",
">\n\nWhat about the kids taken under the Obama administration? Oh, and also the Biden administration?",
">\n\nLet’s not pretend Biden hated deportations.",
">\n\nThis is entirely unrelated. Factually under Obama more people were deported than under Trump, but that's not the point. The point is that kids were being separated from their parents and due to some terrible logistical issues in some cases they had trouble linking them to their parents.",
">\n\nDon't come into the country illegally. Problem solved.",
">\n\nHow did your family get here?",
">\n\nPeople are always separated from their children when they go to jail. I wonder how the Biden administration is currently handling this. Do the kids go to the same jail cell as their parents, or are we not sending them to jail at all when they are caught entering illegally?\nEdit: Ok, I had time to read up on this. Trump and Seasions had a “zero-tolerance” policy, which the Biden admin rescinded. So the answer to my question is people that are caught crossing illegally, if that’s the only law they broke, aren’t sent to jail at all.",
">\n\nMost of the people separated under the Trump plan were seeking asylum. Asylum seekers have broken no laws by coming here.\nPrior to, and after Trump's administration, families were and are now again separated only in cases of proof of criminal activity such as violence, abuse, or smuggling. Trying to go from one country to the next without having your papers in order is not, and nor should it be, a crime.",
">\n\nWe need a democrat who can talk about how the republicans gave these kids brain damage. No more pro life or pro child bullshit they don’t care about kids it’s about power. We have a mute for president"
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It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:
A suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others. | [] |
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"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
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"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
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It's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.
The biggest potential threat for Islamist (not Islamic, there's a difference) terrorism in the west post-9/11 was almost always "lone wolf" attacks against soft targets.
Well, the decisive action against ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, and similar organizations both crippled their ability to fund such operations, diminished their reach via social media, and severely crippled their leadership structures. After all, nobody wants to take an afternoon drive and get hit with a slap chop missile that doesn't leave enough left to fill a doggy bag. | [
"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
">\n\nI would classify it as intra-islamic terrorism.",
">\n\nI’m really not looking forward to having to deal with “Post-Modern Islamic Terrorism.”"
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It's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.
I'd edit that to the US, not the west. Europe has issues still, though they are less than years past as we have mostly destroyed the large organizations. | [
"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
">\n\nI would classify it as intra-islamic terrorism.",
">\n\nI’m really not looking forward to having to deal with “Post-Modern Islamic Terrorism.”",
">\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\nThe biggest potential threat for Islamist (not Islamic, there's a difference) terrorism in the west post-9/11 was almost always \"lone wolf\" attacks against soft targets.\nWell, the decisive action against ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, and similar organizations both crippled their ability to fund such operations, diminished their reach via social media, and severely crippled their leadership structures. After all, nobody wants to take an afternoon drive and get hit with a slap chop missile that doesn't leave enough left to fill a doggy bag."
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ISIS is now only a shell of what it was before. After government forces recaptured Mosul, that was pretty much its last stand. It became relegated to being tiny and extremely demoralized fighting cells in the desert. Less war like conditions now and therefore less people being displaced. Many of the people who went there to fight with ISIS have become disillusioned after seeing ISIS for what it was. They are either being prosecuted in their home countries or rendered stateless after leaders of various countries have revoked their citizenships.
Today, Iraq has entered a period of relative stability after ISIS had been significantly weakened and US forces being ejected by the Iraqi government. Syrians are still leaving Assad's regime, albeit at smaller numbers than before. Boko Haram's leader has been killed and its camps have been destroyed.
A huge but here... Al-Shabaab is still a major concern but more as a domestic concern. Every year, there are several attacks in Mogadishu and other cities throughout Somalia. | [
"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
">\n\nI would classify it as intra-islamic terrorism.",
">\n\nI’m really not looking forward to having to deal with “Post-Modern Islamic Terrorism.”",
">\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\nThe biggest potential threat for Islamist (not Islamic, there's a difference) terrorism in the west post-9/11 was almost always \"lone wolf\" attacks against soft targets.\nWell, the decisive action against ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, and similar organizations both crippled their ability to fund such operations, diminished their reach via social media, and severely crippled their leadership structures. After all, nobody wants to take an afternoon drive and get hit with a slap chop missile that doesn't leave enough left to fill a doggy bag.",
">\n\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\n\nI'd edit that to the US, not the west. Europe has issues still, though they are less than years past as we have mostly destroyed the large organizations."
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I would add that a group of militants attacks Southern Tanzania and northern Mozambique. | [
"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
">\n\nI would classify it as intra-islamic terrorism.",
">\n\nI’m really not looking forward to having to deal with “Post-Modern Islamic Terrorism.”",
">\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\nThe biggest potential threat for Islamist (not Islamic, there's a difference) terrorism in the west post-9/11 was almost always \"lone wolf\" attacks against soft targets.\nWell, the decisive action against ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, and similar organizations both crippled their ability to fund such operations, diminished their reach via social media, and severely crippled their leadership structures. After all, nobody wants to take an afternoon drive and get hit with a slap chop missile that doesn't leave enough left to fill a doggy bag.",
">\n\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\n\nI'd edit that to the US, not the west. Europe has issues still, though they are less than years past as we have mostly destroyed the large organizations.",
">\n\nISIS is now only a shell of what it was before. After government forces recaptured Mosul, that was pretty much its last stand. It became relegated to being tiny and extremely demoralized fighting cells in the desert. Less war like conditions now and therefore less people being displaced. Many of the people who went there to fight with ISIS have become disillusioned after seeing ISIS for what it was. They are either being prosecuted in their home countries or rendered stateless after leaders of various countries have revoked their citizenships. \nToday, Iraq has entered a period of relative stability after ISIS had been significantly weakened and US forces being ejected by the Iraqi government. Syrians are still leaving Assad's regime, albeit at smaller numbers than before. Boko Haram's leader has been killed and its camps have been destroyed.\nA huge but here... Al-Shabaab is still a major concern but more as a domestic concern. Every year, there are several attacks in Mogadishu and other cities throughout Somalia."
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I'm actually not sure they are gone but they're definitely in retreat. USA and friends capped a lot of their leadership. They're either in retreat and rebuilding, or just done. I can't answer for Europe but I can also say that the focus in the USA is shifting to domestic terror.
Sorry if my response is too brief. I don't believe the answers are that complex. Religious government is on the rise, authoritarianism also, so they're busy at home. Oppressing the women. | [
"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
">\n\nI would classify it as intra-islamic terrorism.",
">\n\nI’m really not looking forward to having to deal with “Post-Modern Islamic Terrorism.”",
">\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\nThe biggest potential threat for Islamist (not Islamic, there's a difference) terrorism in the west post-9/11 was almost always \"lone wolf\" attacks against soft targets.\nWell, the decisive action against ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, and similar organizations both crippled their ability to fund such operations, diminished their reach via social media, and severely crippled their leadership structures. After all, nobody wants to take an afternoon drive and get hit with a slap chop missile that doesn't leave enough left to fill a doggy bag.",
">\n\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\n\nI'd edit that to the US, not the west. Europe has issues still, though they are less than years past as we have mostly destroyed the large organizations.",
">\n\nISIS is now only a shell of what it was before. After government forces recaptured Mosul, that was pretty much its last stand. It became relegated to being tiny and extremely demoralized fighting cells in the desert. Less war like conditions now and therefore less people being displaced. Many of the people who went there to fight with ISIS have become disillusioned after seeing ISIS for what it was. They are either being prosecuted in their home countries or rendered stateless after leaders of various countries have revoked their citizenships. \nToday, Iraq has entered a period of relative stability after ISIS had been significantly weakened and US forces being ejected by the Iraqi government. Syrians are still leaving Assad's regime, albeit at smaller numbers than before. Boko Haram's leader has been killed and its camps have been destroyed.\nA huge but here... Al-Shabaab is still a major concern but more as a domestic concern. Every year, there are several attacks in Mogadishu and other cities throughout Somalia.",
">\n\nI would add that a group of militants attacks Southern Tanzania and northern Mozambique."
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I believe this is what it is too. Focus has shifted. | [
"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
">\n\nI would classify it as intra-islamic terrorism.",
">\n\nI’m really not looking forward to having to deal with “Post-Modern Islamic Terrorism.”",
">\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\nThe biggest potential threat for Islamist (not Islamic, there's a difference) terrorism in the west post-9/11 was almost always \"lone wolf\" attacks against soft targets.\nWell, the decisive action against ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, and similar organizations both crippled their ability to fund such operations, diminished their reach via social media, and severely crippled their leadership structures. After all, nobody wants to take an afternoon drive and get hit with a slap chop missile that doesn't leave enough left to fill a doggy bag.",
">\n\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\n\nI'd edit that to the US, not the west. Europe has issues still, though they are less than years past as we have mostly destroyed the large organizations.",
">\n\nISIS is now only a shell of what it was before. After government forces recaptured Mosul, that was pretty much its last stand. It became relegated to being tiny and extremely demoralized fighting cells in the desert. Less war like conditions now and therefore less people being displaced. Many of the people who went there to fight with ISIS have become disillusioned after seeing ISIS for what it was. They are either being prosecuted in their home countries or rendered stateless after leaders of various countries have revoked their citizenships. \nToday, Iraq has entered a period of relative stability after ISIS had been significantly weakened and US forces being ejected by the Iraqi government. Syrians are still leaving Assad's regime, albeit at smaller numbers than before. Boko Haram's leader has been killed and its camps have been destroyed.\nA huge but here... Al-Shabaab is still a major concern but more as a domestic concern. Every year, there are several attacks in Mogadishu and other cities throughout Somalia.",
">\n\nI would add that a group of militants attacks Southern Tanzania and northern Mozambique.",
">\n\nI'm actually not sure they are gone but they're definitely in retreat. USA and friends capped a lot of their leadership. They're either in retreat and rebuilding, or just done. I can't answer for Europe but I can also say that the focus in the USA is shifting to domestic terror.\nSorry if my response is too brief. I don't believe the answers are that complex. Religious government is on the rise, authoritarianism also, so they're busy at home. Oppressing the women."
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Because ISIS was destroyed. Tens of thousands of its fighters were annihilated. And more importantly, Saudi Arabia and the gulf states which exported fundamentalist Islamism are moderating a bit.
It’s still a major problem though, just not in the West. The Sahel for instance is constantly ravaged by Islamist violence and there was just recently a massive terror attack in Pakistan. | [
"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
">\n\nI would classify it as intra-islamic terrorism.",
">\n\nI’m really not looking forward to having to deal with “Post-Modern Islamic Terrorism.”",
">\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\nThe biggest potential threat for Islamist (not Islamic, there's a difference) terrorism in the west post-9/11 was almost always \"lone wolf\" attacks against soft targets.\nWell, the decisive action against ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, and similar organizations both crippled their ability to fund such operations, diminished their reach via social media, and severely crippled their leadership structures. After all, nobody wants to take an afternoon drive and get hit with a slap chop missile that doesn't leave enough left to fill a doggy bag.",
">\n\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\n\nI'd edit that to the US, not the west. Europe has issues still, though they are less than years past as we have mostly destroyed the large organizations.",
">\n\nISIS is now only a shell of what it was before. After government forces recaptured Mosul, that was pretty much its last stand. It became relegated to being tiny and extremely demoralized fighting cells in the desert. Less war like conditions now and therefore less people being displaced. Many of the people who went there to fight with ISIS have become disillusioned after seeing ISIS for what it was. They are either being prosecuted in their home countries or rendered stateless after leaders of various countries have revoked their citizenships. \nToday, Iraq has entered a period of relative stability after ISIS had been significantly weakened and US forces being ejected by the Iraqi government. Syrians are still leaving Assad's regime, albeit at smaller numbers than before. Boko Haram's leader has been killed and its camps have been destroyed.\nA huge but here... Al-Shabaab is still a major concern but more as a domestic concern. Every year, there are several attacks in Mogadishu and other cities throughout Somalia.",
">\n\nI would add that a group of militants attacks Southern Tanzania and northern Mozambique.",
">\n\nI'm actually not sure they are gone but they're definitely in retreat. USA and friends capped a lot of their leadership. They're either in retreat and rebuilding, or just done. I can't answer for Europe but I can also say that the focus in the USA is shifting to domestic terror.\nSorry if my response is too brief. I don't believe the answers are that complex. Religious government is on the rise, authoritarianism also, so they're busy at home. Oppressing the women.",
">\n\nI believe this is what it is too. Focus has shifted."
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Probably mainly because there haven't been any major Islamist terror attacks lately, while our attention has been drawn away by all the other scary stuff happening. Also Al Qaeda and ISIS are only a shadow of their former selves by now. | [
"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
">\n\nI would classify it as intra-islamic terrorism.",
">\n\nI’m really not looking forward to having to deal with “Post-Modern Islamic Terrorism.”",
">\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\nThe biggest potential threat for Islamist (not Islamic, there's a difference) terrorism in the west post-9/11 was almost always \"lone wolf\" attacks against soft targets.\nWell, the decisive action against ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, and similar organizations both crippled their ability to fund such operations, diminished their reach via social media, and severely crippled their leadership structures. After all, nobody wants to take an afternoon drive and get hit with a slap chop missile that doesn't leave enough left to fill a doggy bag.",
">\n\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\n\nI'd edit that to the US, not the west. Europe has issues still, though they are less than years past as we have mostly destroyed the large organizations.",
">\n\nISIS is now only a shell of what it was before. After government forces recaptured Mosul, that was pretty much its last stand. It became relegated to being tiny and extremely demoralized fighting cells in the desert. Less war like conditions now and therefore less people being displaced. Many of the people who went there to fight with ISIS have become disillusioned after seeing ISIS for what it was. They are either being prosecuted in their home countries or rendered stateless after leaders of various countries have revoked their citizenships. \nToday, Iraq has entered a period of relative stability after ISIS had been significantly weakened and US forces being ejected by the Iraqi government. Syrians are still leaving Assad's regime, albeit at smaller numbers than before. Boko Haram's leader has been killed and its camps have been destroyed.\nA huge but here... Al-Shabaab is still a major concern but more as a domestic concern. Every year, there are several attacks in Mogadishu and other cities throughout Somalia.",
">\n\nI would add that a group of militants attacks Southern Tanzania and northern Mozambique.",
">\n\nI'm actually not sure they are gone but they're definitely in retreat. USA and friends capped a lot of their leadership. They're either in retreat and rebuilding, or just done. I can't answer for Europe but I can also say that the focus in the USA is shifting to domestic terror.\nSorry if my response is too brief. I don't believe the answers are that complex. Religious government is on the rise, authoritarianism also, so they're busy at home. Oppressing the women.",
">\n\nI believe this is what it is too. Focus has shifted.",
">\n\nBecause ISIS was destroyed. Tens of thousands of its fighters were annihilated. And more importantly, Saudi Arabia and the gulf states which exported fundamentalist Islamism are moderating a bit. \nIt’s still a major problem though, just not in the West. The Sahel for instance is constantly ravaged by Islamist violence and there was just recently a massive terror attack in Pakistan."
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Here in France, there's still several "Islamic terrorism-adjacent" murders each year - ie. acts carried out by mentally deranged people that have latched onto Islamism as a motivating idealogy - there was a mass stabbing in Gare du Nord about two weeks ago. | [
"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
">\n\nI would classify it as intra-islamic terrorism.",
">\n\nI’m really not looking forward to having to deal with “Post-Modern Islamic Terrorism.”",
">\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\nThe biggest potential threat for Islamist (not Islamic, there's a difference) terrorism in the west post-9/11 was almost always \"lone wolf\" attacks against soft targets.\nWell, the decisive action against ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, and similar organizations both crippled their ability to fund such operations, diminished their reach via social media, and severely crippled their leadership structures. After all, nobody wants to take an afternoon drive and get hit with a slap chop missile that doesn't leave enough left to fill a doggy bag.",
">\n\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\n\nI'd edit that to the US, not the west. Europe has issues still, though they are less than years past as we have mostly destroyed the large organizations.",
">\n\nISIS is now only a shell of what it was before. After government forces recaptured Mosul, that was pretty much its last stand. It became relegated to being tiny and extremely demoralized fighting cells in the desert. Less war like conditions now and therefore less people being displaced. Many of the people who went there to fight with ISIS have become disillusioned after seeing ISIS for what it was. They are either being prosecuted in their home countries or rendered stateless after leaders of various countries have revoked their citizenships. \nToday, Iraq has entered a period of relative stability after ISIS had been significantly weakened and US forces being ejected by the Iraqi government. Syrians are still leaving Assad's regime, albeit at smaller numbers than before. Boko Haram's leader has been killed and its camps have been destroyed.\nA huge but here... Al-Shabaab is still a major concern but more as a domestic concern. Every year, there are several attacks in Mogadishu and other cities throughout Somalia.",
">\n\nI would add that a group of militants attacks Southern Tanzania and northern Mozambique.",
">\n\nI'm actually not sure they are gone but they're definitely in retreat. USA and friends capped a lot of their leadership. They're either in retreat and rebuilding, or just done. I can't answer for Europe but I can also say that the focus in the USA is shifting to domestic terror.\nSorry if my response is too brief. I don't believe the answers are that complex. Religious government is on the rise, authoritarianism also, so they're busy at home. Oppressing the women.",
">\n\nI believe this is what it is too. Focus has shifted.",
">\n\nBecause ISIS was destroyed. Tens of thousands of its fighters were annihilated. And more importantly, Saudi Arabia and the gulf states which exported fundamentalist Islamism are moderating a bit. \nIt’s still a major problem though, just not in the West. The Sahel for instance is constantly ravaged by Islamist violence and there was just recently a massive terror attack in Pakistan.",
">\n\nProbably mainly because there haven't been any major Islamist terror attacks lately, while our attention has been drawn away by all the other scary stuff happening. Also Al Qaeda and ISIS are only a shadow of their former selves by now."
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That’s scary, and I don’t think we even heard about it over here | [
"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
">\n\nI would classify it as intra-islamic terrorism.",
">\n\nI’m really not looking forward to having to deal with “Post-Modern Islamic Terrorism.”",
">\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\nThe biggest potential threat for Islamist (not Islamic, there's a difference) terrorism in the west post-9/11 was almost always \"lone wolf\" attacks against soft targets.\nWell, the decisive action against ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, and similar organizations both crippled their ability to fund such operations, diminished their reach via social media, and severely crippled their leadership structures. After all, nobody wants to take an afternoon drive and get hit with a slap chop missile that doesn't leave enough left to fill a doggy bag.",
">\n\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\n\nI'd edit that to the US, not the west. Europe has issues still, though they are less than years past as we have mostly destroyed the large organizations.",
">\n\nISIS is now only a shell of what it was before. After government forces recaptured Mosul, that was pretty much its last stand. It became relegated to being tiny and extremely demoralized fighting cells in the desert. Less war like conditions now and therefore less people being displaced. Many of the people who went there to fight with ISIS have become disillusioned after seeing ISIS for what it was. They are either being prosecuted in their home countries or rendered stateless after leaders of various countries have revoked their citizenships. \nToday, Iraq has entered a period of relative stability after ISIS had been significantly weakened and US forces being ejected by the Iraqi government. Syrians are still leaving Assad's regime, albeit at smaller numbers than before. Boko Haram's leader has been killed and its camps have been destroyed.\nA huge but here... Al-Shabaab is still a major concern but more as a domestic concern. Every year, there are several attacks in Mogadishu and other cities throughout Somalia.",
">\n\nI would add that a group of militants attacks Southern Tanzania and northern Mozambique.",
">\n\nI'm actually not sure they are gone but they're definitely in retreat. USA and friends capped a lot of their leadership. They're either in retreat and rebuilding, or just done. I can't answer for Europe but I can also say that the focus in the USA is shifting to domestic terror.\nSorry if my response is too brief. I don't believe the answers are that complex. Religious government is on the rise, authoritarianism also, so they're busy at home. Oppressing the women.",
">\n\nI believe this is what it is too. Focus has shifted.",
">\n\nBecause ISIS was destroyed. Tens of thousands of its fighters were annihilated. And more importantly, Saudi Arabia and the gulf states which exported fundamentalist Islamism are moderating a bit. \nIt’s still a major problem though, just not in the West. The Sahel for instance is constantly ravaged by Islamist violence and there was just recently a massive terror attack in Pakistan.",
">\n\nProbably mainly because there haven't been any major Islamist terror attacks lately, while our attention has been drawn away by all the other scary stuff happening. Also Al Qaeda and ISIS are only a shadow of their former selves by now.",
">\n\nHere in France, there's still several \"Islamic terrorism-adjacent\" murders each year - ie. acts carried out by mentally deranged people that have latched onto Islamism as a motivating idealogy - there was a mass stabbing in Gare du Nord about two weeks ago."
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A) All the leaders are dead.
B) They’ve probably seen all the chaos in the West over the past decade and realize attacking is a waste of time. | [
"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
">\n\nI would classify it as intra-islamic terrorism.",
">\n\nI’m really not looking forward to having to deal with “Post-Modern Islamic Terrorism.”",
">\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\nThe biggest potential threat for Islamist (not Islamic, there's a difference) terrorism in the west post-9/11 was almost always \"lone wolf\" attacks against soft targets.\nWell, the decisive action against ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, and similar organizations both crippled their ability to fund such operations, diminished their reach via social media, and severely crippled their leadership structures. After all, nobody wants to take an afternoon drive and get hit with a slap chop missile that doesn't leave enough left to fill a doggy bag.",
">\n\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\n\nI'd edit that to the US, not the west. Europe has issues still, though they are less than years past as we have mostly destroyed the large organizations.",
">\n\nISIS is now only a shell of what it was before. After government forces recaptured Mosul, that was pretty much its last stand. It became relegated to being tiny and extremely demoralized fighting cells in the desert. Less war like conditions now and therefore less people being displaced. Many of the people who went there to fight with ISIS have become disillusioned after seeing ISIS for what it was. They are either being prosecuted in their home countries or rendered stateless after leaders of various countries have revoked their citizenships. \nToday, Iraq has entered a period of relative stability after ISIS had been significantly weakened and US forces being ejected by the Iraqi government. Syrians are still leaving Assad's regime, albeit at smaller numbers than before. Boko Haram's leader has been killed and its camps have been destroyed.\nA huge but here... Al-Shabaab is still a major concern but more as a domestic concern. Every year, there are several attacks in Mogadishu and other cities throughout Somalia.",
">\n\nI would add that a group of militants attacks Southern Tanzania and northern Mozambique.",
">\n\nI'm actually not sure they are gone but they're definitely in retreat. USA and friends capped a lot of their leadership. They're either in retreat and rebuilding, or just done. I can't answer for Europe but I can also say that the focus in the USA is shifting to domestic terror.\nSorry if my response is too brief. I don't believe the answers are that complex. Religious government is on the rise, authoritarianism also, so they're busy at home. Oppressing the women.",
">\n\nI believe this is what it is too. Focus has shifted.",
">\n\nBecause ISIS was destroyed. Tens of thousands of its fighters were annihilated. And more importantly, Saudi Arabia and the gulf states which exported fundamentalist Islamism are moderating a bit. \nIt’s still a major problem though, just not in the West. The Sahel for instance is constantly ravaged by Islamist violence and there was just recently a massive terror attack in Pakistan.",
">\n\nProbably mainly because there haven't been any major Islamist terror attacks lately, while our attention has been drawn away by all the other scary stuff happening. Also Al Qaeda and ISIS are only a shadow of their former selves by now.",
">\n\nHere in France, there's still several \"Islamic terrorism-adjacent\" murders each year - ie. acts carried out by mentally deranged people that have latched onto Islamism as a motivating idealogy - there was a mass stabbing in Gare du Nord about two weeks ago.",
">\n\nThat’s scary, and I don’t think we even heard about it over here"
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Because there's a war on Christmas, CRT, the border, and litter boxes in schools happening instead. It will come around again. Our tiny brains can only deal with 3 or 4 drumbeats at a time. | [
"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
">\n\nI would classify it as intra-islamic terrorism.",
">\n\nI’m really not looking forward to having to deal with “Post-Modern Islamic Terrorism.”",
">\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\nThe biggest potential threat for Islamist (not Islamic, there's a difference) terrorism in the west post-9/11 was almost always \"lone wolf\" attacks against soft targets.\nWell, the decisive action against ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, and similar organizations both crippled their ability to fund such operations, diminished their reach via social media, and severely crippled their leadership structures. After all, nobody wants to take an afternoon drive and get hit with a slap chop missile that doesn't leave enough left to fill a doggy bag.",
">\n\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\n\nI'd edit that to the US, not the west. Europe has issues still, though they are less than years past as we have mostly destroyed the large organizations.",
">\n\nISIS is now only a shell of what it was before. After government forces recaptured Mosul, that was pretty much its last stand. It became relegated to being tiny and extremely demoralized fighting cells in the desert. Less war like conditions now and therefore less people being displaced. Many of the people who went there to fight with ISIS have become disillusioned after seeing ISIS for what it was. They are either being prosecuted in their home countries or rendered stateless after leaders of various countries have revoked their citizenships. \nToday, Iraq has entered a period of relative stability after ISIS had been significantly weakened and US forces being ejected by the Iraqi government. Syrians are still leaving Assad's regime, albeit at smaller numbers than before. Boko Haram's leader has been killed and its camps have been destroyed.\nA huge but here... Al-Shabaab is still a major concern but more as a domestic concern. Every year, there are several attacks in Mogadishu and other cities throughout Somalia.",
">\n\nI would add that a group of militants attacks Southern Tanzania and northern Mozambique.",
">\n\nI'm actually not sure they are gone but they're definitely in retreat. USA and friends capped a lot of their leadership. They're either in retreat and rebuilding, or just done. I can't answer for Europe but I can also say that the focus in the USA is shifting to domestic terror.\nSorry if my response is too brief. I don't believe the answers are that complex. Religious government is on the rise, authoritarianism also, so they're busy at home. Oppressing the women.",
">\n\nI believe this is what it is too. Focus has shifted.",
">\n\nBecause ISIS was destroyed. Tens of thousands of its fighters were annihilated. And more importantly, Saudi Arabia and the gulf states which exported fundamentalist Islamism are moderating a bit. \nIt’s still a major problem though, just not in the West. The Sahel for instance is constantly ravaged by Islamist violence and there was just recently a massive terror attack in Pakistan.",
">\n\nProbably mainly because there haven't been any major Islamist terror attacks lately, while our attention has been drawn away by all the other scary stuff happening. Also Al Qaeda and ISIS are only a shadow of their former selves by now.",
">\n\nHere in France, there's still several \"Islamic terrorism-adjacent\" murders each year - ie. acts carried out by mentally deranged people that have latched onto Islamism as a motivating idealogy - there was a mass stabbing in Gare du Nord about two weeks ago.",
">\n\nThat’s scary, and I don’t think we even heard about it over here",
">\n\nA) All the leaders are dead. \nB) They’ve probably seen all the chaos in the West over the past decade and realize attacking is a waste of time."
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The GOP can't really harp on Islamic terrorism while American rightwing terrorists are on the uptick. | [
"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
">\n\nI would classify it as intra-islamic terrorism.",
">\n\nI’m really not looking forward to having to deal with “Post-Modern Islamic Terrorism.”",
">\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\nThe biggest potential threat for Islamist (not Islamic, there's a difference) terrorism in the west post-9/11 was almost always \"lone wolf\" attacks against soft targets.\nWell, the decisive action against ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, and similar organizations both crippled their ability to fund such operations, diminished their reach via social media, and severely crippled their leadership structures. After all, nobody wants to take an afternoon drive and get hit with a slap chop missile that doesn't leave enough left to fill a doggy bag.",
">\n\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\n\nI'd edit that to the US, not the west. Europe has issues still, though they are less than years past as we have mostly destroyed the large organizations.",
">\n\nISIS is now only a shell of what it was before. After government forces recaptured Mosul, that was pretty much its last stand. It became relegated to being tiny and extremely demoralized fighting cells in the desert. Less war like conditions now and therefore less people being displaced. Many of the people who went there to fight with ISIS have become disillusioned after seeing ISIS for what it was. They are either being prosecuted in their home countries or rendered stateless after leaders of various countries have revoked their citizenships. \nToday, Iraq has entered a period of relative stability after ISIS had been significantly weakened and US forces being ejected by the Iraqi government. Syrians are still leaving Assad's regime, albeit at smaller numbers than before. Boko Haram's leader has been killed and its camps have been destroyed.\nA huge but here... Al-Shabaab is still a major concern but more as a domestic concern. Every year, there are several attacks in Mogadishu and other cities throughout Somalia.",
">\n\nI would add that a group of militants attacks Southern Tanzania and northern Mozambique.",
">\n\nI'm actually not sure they are gone but they're definitely in retreat. USA and friends capped a lot of their leadership. They're either in retreat and rebuilding, or just done. I can't answer for Europe but I can also say that the focus in the USA is shifting to domestic terror.\nSorry if my response is too brief. I don't believe the answers are that complex. Religious government is on the rise, authoritarianism also, so they're busy at home. Oppressing the women.",
">\n\nI believe this is what it is too. Focus has shifted.",
">\n\nBecause ISIS was destroyed. Tens of thousands of its fighters were annihilated. And more importantly, Saudi Arabia and the gulf states which exported fundamentalist Islamism are moderating a bit. \nIt’s still a major problem though, just not in the West. The Sahel for instance is constantly ravaged by Islamist violence and there was just recently a massive terror attack in Pakistan.",
">\n\nProbably mainly because there haven't been any major Islamist terror attacks lately, while our attention has been drawn away by all the other scary stuff happening. Also Al Qaeda and ISIS are only a shadow of their former selves by now.",
">\n\nHere in France, there's still several \"Islamic terrorism-adjacent\" murders each year - ie. acts carried out by mentally deranged people that have latched onto Islamism as a motivating idealogy - there was a mass stabbing in Gare du Nord about two weeks ago.",
">\n\nThat’s scary, and I don’t think we even heard about it over here",
">\n\nA) All the leaders are dead. \nB) They’ve probably seen all the chaos in the West over the past decade and realize attacking is a waste of time.",
">\n\nBecause there's a war on Christmas, CRT, the border, and litter boxes in schools happening instead. It will come around again. Our tiny brains can only deal with 3 or 4 drumbeats at a time."
] |
>
I think COVID is the thing you're missing. It kinda distracted everyone for a while, and it killed a lot more people than terrorists ever did. Terrorism was always a massively-overinflated threat for the US and Europe, so it was easy to ignore it when an actual threat came along. | [
"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
">\n\nI would classify it as intra-islamic terrorism.",
">\n\nI’m really not looking forward to having to deal with “Post-Modern Islamic Terrorism.”",
">\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\nThe biggest potential threat for Islamist (not Islamic, there's a difference) terrorism in the west post-9/11 was almost always \"lone wolf\" attacks against soft targets.\nWell, the decisive action against ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, and similar organizations both crippled their ability to fund such operations, diminished their reach via social media, and severely crippled their leadership structures. After all, nobody wants to take an afternoon drive and get hit with a slap chop missile that doesn't leave enough left to fill a doggy bag.",
">\n\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\n\nI'd edit that to the US, not the west. Europe has issues still, though they are less than years past as we have mostly destroyed the large organizations.",
">\n\nISIS is now only a shell of what it was before. After government forces recaptured Mosul, that was pretty much its last stand. It became relegated to being tiny and extremely demoralized fighting cells in the desert. Less war like conditions now and therefore less people being displaced. Many of the people who went there to fight with ISIS have become disillusioned after seeing ISIS for what it was. They are either being prosecuted in their home countries or rendered stateless after leaders of various countries have revoked their citizenships. \nToday, Iraq has entered a period of relative stability after ISIS had been significantly weakened and US forces being ejected by the Iraqi government. Syrians are still leaving Assad's regime, albeit at smaller numbers than before. Boko Haram's leader has been killed and its camps have been destroyed.\nA huge but here... Al-Shabaab is still a major concern but more as a domestic concern. Every year, there are several attacks in Mogadishu and other cities throughout Somalia.",
">\n\nI would add that a group of militants attacks Southern Tanzania and northern Mozambique.",
">\n\nI'm actually not sure they are gone but they're definitely in retreat. USA and friends capped a lot of their leadership. They're either in retreat and rebuilding, or just done. I can't answer for Europe but I can also say that the focus in the USA is shifting to domestic terror.\nSorry if my response is too brief. I don't believe the answers are that complex. Religious government is on the rise, authoritarianism also, so they're busy at home. Oppressing the women.",
">\n\nI believe this is what it is too. Focus has shifted.",
">\n\nBecause ISIS was destroyed. Tens of thousands of its fighters were annihilated. And more importantly, Saudi Arabia and the gulf states which exported fundamentalist Islamism are moderating a bit. \nIt’s still a major problem though, just not in the West. The Sahel for instance is constantly ravaged by Islamist violence and there was just recently a massive terror attack in Pakistan.",
">\n\nProbably mainly because there haven't been any major Islamist terror attacks lately, while our attention has been drawn away by all the other scary stuff happening. Also Al Qaeda and ISIS are only a shadow of their former selves by now.",
">\n\nHere in France, there's still several \"Islamic terrorism-adjacent\" murders each year - ie. acts carried out by mentally deranged people that have latched onto Islamism as a motivating idealogy - there was a mass stabbing in Gare du Nord about two weeks ago.",
">\n\nThat’s scary, and I don’t think we even heard about it over here",
">\n\nA) All the leaders are dead. \nB) They’ve probably seen all the chaos in the West over the past decade and realize attacking is a waste of time.",
">\n\nBecause there's a war on Christmas, CRT, the border, and litter boxes in schools happening instead. It will come around again. Our tiny brains can only deal with 3 or 4 drumbeats at a time.",
">\n\nThe GOP can't really harp on Islamic terrorism while American rightwing terrorists are on the uptick."
] |
>
Now it’s Christian nationalism that’s our biggest national threat. Go figure | [
"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
">\n\nI would classify it as intra-islamic terrorism.",
">\n\nI’m really not looking forward to having to deal with “Post-Modern Islamic Terrorism.”",
">\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\nThe biggest potential threat for Islamist (not Islamic, there's a difference) terrorism in the west post-9/11 was almost always \"lone wolf\" attacks against soft targets.\nWell, the decisive action against ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, and similar organizations both crippled their ability to fund such operations, diminished their reach via social media, and severely crippled their leadership structures. After all, nobody wants to take an afternoon drive and get hit with a slap chop missile that doesn't leave enough left to fill a doggy bag.",
">\n\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\n\nI'd edit that to the US, not the west. Europe has issues still, though they are less than years past as we have mostly destroyed the large organizations.",
">\n\nISIS is now only a shell of what it was before. After government forces recaptured Mosul, that was pretty much its last stand. It became relegated to being tiny and extremely demoralized fighting cells in the desert. Less war like conditions now and therefore less people being displaced. Many of the people who went there to fight with ISIS have become disillusioned after seeing ISIS for what it was. They are either being prosecuted in their home countries or rendered stateless after leaders of various countries have revoked their citizenships. \nToday, Iraq has entered a period of relative stability after ISIS had been significantly weakened and US forces being ejected by the Iraqi government. Syrians are still leaving Assad's regime, albeit at smaller numbers than before. Boko Haram's leader has been killed and its camps have been destroyed.\nA huge but here... Al-Shabaab is still a major concern but more as a domestic concern. Every year, there are several attacks in Mogadishu and other cities throughout Somalia.",
">\n\nI would add that a group of militants attacks Southern Tanzania and northern Mozambique.",
">\n\nI'm actually not sure they are gone but they're definitely in retreat. USA and friends capped a lot of their leadership. They're either in retreat and rebuilding, or just done. I can't answer for Europe but I can also say that the focus in the USA is shifting to domestic terror.\nSorry if my response is too brief. I don't believe the answers are that complex. Religious government is on the rise, authoritarianism also, so they're busy at home. Oppressing the women.",
">\n\nI believe this is what it is too. Focus has shifted.",
">\n\nBecause ISIS was destroyed. Tens of thousands of its fighters were annihilated. And more importantly, Saudi Arabia and the gulf states which exported fundamentalist Islamism are moderating a bit. \nIt’s still a major problem though, just not in the West. The Sahel for instance is constantly ravaged by Islamist violence and there was just recently a massive terror attack in Pakistan.",
">\n\nProbably mainly because there haven't been any major Islamist terror attacks lately, while our attention has been drawn away by all the other scary stuff happening. Also Al Qaeda and ISIS are only a shadow of their former selves by now.",
">\n\nHere in France, there's still several \"Islamic terrorism-adjacent\" murders each year - ie. acts carried out by mentally deranged people that have latched onto Islamism as a motivating idealogy - there was a mass stabbing in Gare du Nord about two weeks ago.",
">\n\nThat’s scary, and I don’t think we even heard about it over here",
">\n\nA) All the leaders are dead. \nB) They’ve probably seen all the chaos in the West over the past decade and realize attacking is a waste of time.",
">\n\nBecause there's a war on Christmas, CRT, the border, and litter boxes in schools happening instead. It will come around again. Our tiny brains can only deal with 3 or 4 drumbeats at a time.",
">\n\nThe GOP can't really harp on Islamic terrorism while American rightwing terrorists are on the uptick.",
">\n\nI think COVID is the thing you're missing. It kinda distracted everyone for a while, and it killed a lot more people than terrorists ever did. Terrorism was always a massively-overinflated threat for the US and Europe, so it was easy to ignore it when an actual threat came along."
] |
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Eh, Christian extremists haven't flown two planes into skyscrapers or shot up an LGBT nightclub or bombed a stadium full of kids or beheaded a teacher because he dared to draw Jesus. I'd say we're a ways away from Christian nationalism being a threat. | [
"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
">\n\nI would classify it as intra-islamic terrorism.",
">\n\nI’m really not looking forward to having to deal with “Post-Modern Islamic Terrorism.”",
">\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\nThe biggest potential threat for Islamist (not Islamic, there's a difference) terrorism in the west post-9/11 was almost always \"lone wolf\" attacks against soft targets.\nWell, the decisive action against ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, and similar organizations both crippled their ability to fund such operations, diminished their reach via social media, and severely crippled their leadership structures. After all, nobody wants to take an afternoon drive and get hit with a slap chop missile that doesn't leave enough left to fill a doggy bag.",
">\n\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\n\nI'd edit that to the US, not the west. Europe has issues still, though they are less than years past as we have mostly destroyed the large organizations.",
">\n\nISIS is now only a shell of what it was before. After government forces recaptured Mosul, that was pretty much its last stand. It became relegated to being tiny and extremely demoralized fighting cells in the desert. Less war like conditions now and therefore less people being displaced. Many of the people who went there to fight with ISIS have become disillusioned after seeing ISIS for what it was. They are either being prosecuted in their home countries or rendered stateless after leaders of various countries have revoked their citizenships. \nToday, Iraq has entered a period of relative stability after ISIS had been significantly weakened and US forces being ejected by the Iraqi government. Syrians are still leaving Assad's regime, albeit at smaller numbers than before. Boko Haram's leader has been killed and its camps have been destroyed.\nA huge but here... Al-Shabaab is still a major concern but more as a domestic concern. Every year, there are several attacks in Mogadishu and other cities throughout Somalia.",
">\n\nI would add that a group of militants attacks Southern Tanzania and northern Mozambique.",
">\n\nI'm actually not sure they are gone but they're definitely in retreat. USA and friends capped a lot of their leadership. They're either in retreat and rebuilding, or just done. I can't answer for Europe but I can also say that the focus in the USA is shifting to domestic terror.\nSorry if my response is too brief. I don't believe the answers are that complex. Religious government is on the rise, authoritarianism also, so they're busy at home. Oppressing the women.",
">\n\nI believe this is what it is too. Focus has shifted.",
">\n\nBecause ISIS was destroyed. Tens of thousands of its fighters were annihilated. And more importantly, Saudi Arabia and the gulf states which exported fundamentalist Islamism are moderating a bit. \nIt’s still a major problem though, just not in the West. The Sahel for instance is constantly ravaged by Islamist violence and there was just recently a massive terror attack in Pakistan.",
">\n\nProbably mainly because there haven't been any major Islamist terror attacks lately, while our attention has been drawn away by all the other scary stuff happening. Also Al Qaeda and ISIS are only a shadow of their former selves by now.",
">\n\nHere in France, there's still several \"Islamic terrorism-adjacent\" murders each year - ie. acts carried out by mentally deranged people that have latched onto Islamism as a motivating idealogy - there was a mass stabbing in Gare du Nord about two weeks ago.",
">\n\nThat’s scary, and I don’t think we even heard about it over here",
">\n\nA) All the leaders are dead. \nB) They’ve probably seen all the chaos in the West over the past decade and realize attacking is a waste of time.",
">\n\nBecause there's a war on Christmas, CRT, the border, and litter boxes in schools happening instead. It will come around again. Our tiny brains can only deal with 3 or 4 drumbeats at a time.",
">\n\nThe GOP can't really harp on Islamic terrorism while American rightwing terrorists are on the uptick.",
">\n\nI think COVID is the thing you're missing. It kinda distracted everyone for a while, and it killed a lot more people than terrorists ever did. Terrorism was always a massively-overinflated threat for the US and Europe, so it was easy to ignore it when an actual threat came along.",
">\n\nNow it’s Christian nationalism that’s our biggest national threat. Go figure"
] |
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No. They bomb abortion clinics and attack liberals and democrats. They launch insurrections when their candidate loses. Christian extremists call for a real-life version of Gilead here in America. They are a much bigger threat than Islamic radicals because they're homegrown terrorists. | [
"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
">\n\nI would classify it as intra-islamic terrorism.",
">\n\nI’m really not looking forward to having to deal with “Post-Modern Islamic Terrorism.”",
">\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\nThe biggest potential threat for Islamist (not Islamic, there's a difference) terrorism in the west post-9/11 was almost always \"lone wolf\" attacks against soft targets.\nWell, the decisive action against ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, and similar organizations both crippled their ability to fund such operations, diminished their reach via social media, and severely crippled their leadership structures. After all, nobody wants to take an afternoon drive and get hit with a slap chop missile that doesn't leave enough left to fill a doggy bag.",
">\n\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\n\nI'd edit that to the US, not the west. Europe has issues still, though they are less than years past as we have mostly destroyed the large organizations.",
">\n\nISIS is now only a shell of what it was before. After government forces recaptured Mosul, that was pretty much its last stand. It became relegated to being tiny and extremely demoralized fighting cells in the desert. Less war like conditions now and therefore less people being displaced. Many of the people who went there to fight with ISIS have become disillusioned after seeing ISIS for what it was. They are either being prosecuted in their home countries or rendered stateless after leaders of various countries have revoked their citizenships. \nToday, Iraq has entered a period of relative stability after ISIS had been significantly weakened and US forces being ejected by the Iraqi government. Syrians are still leaving Assad's regime, albeit at smaller numbers than before. Boko Haram's leader has been killed and its camps have been destroyed.\nA huge but here... Al-Shabaab is still a major concern but more as a domestic concern. Every year, there are several attacks in Mogadishu and other cities throughout Somalia.",
">\n\nI would add that a group of militants attacks Southern Tanzania and northern Mozambique.",
">\n\nI'm actually not sure they are gone but they're definitely in retreat. USA and friends capped a lot of their leadership. They're either in retreat and rebuilding, or just done. I can't answer for Europe but I can also say that the focus in the USA is shifting to domestic terror.\nSorry if my response is too brief. I don't believe the answers are that complex. Religious government is on the rise, authoritarianism also, so they're busy at home. Oppressing the women.",
">\n\nI believe this is what it is too. Focus has shifted.",
">\n\nBecause ISIS was destroyed. Tens of thousands of its fighters were annihilated. And more importantly, Saudi Arabia and the gulf states which exported fundamentalist Islamism are moderating a bit. \nIt’s still a major problem though, just not in the West. The Sahel for instance is constantly ravaged by Islamist violence and there was just recently a massive terror attack in Pakistan.",
">\n\nProbably mainly because there haven't been any major Islamist terror attacks lately, while our attention has been drawn away by all the other scary stuff happening. Also Al Qaeda and ISIS are only a shadow of their former selves by now.",
">\n\nHere in France, there's still several \"Islamic terrorism-adjacent\" murders each year - ie. acts carried out by mentally deranged people that have latched onto Islamism as a motivating idealogy - there was a mass stabbing in Gare du Nord about two weeks ago.",
">\n\nThat’s scary, and I don’t think we even heard about it over here",
">\n\nA) All the leaders are dead. \nB) They’ve probably seen all the chaos in the West over the past decade and realize attacking is a waste of time.",
">\n\nBecause there's a war on Christmas, CRT, the border, and litter boxes in schools happening instead. It will come around again. Our tiny brains can only deal with 3 or 4 drumbeats at a time.",
">\n\nThe GOP can't really harp on Islamic terrorism while American rightwing terrorists are on the uptick.",
">\n\nI think COVID is the thing you're missing. It kinda distracted everyone for a while, and it killed a lot more people than terrorists ever did. Terrorism was always a massively-overinflated threat for the US and Europe, so it was easy to ignore it when an actual threat came along.",
">\n\nNow it’s Christian nationalism that’s our biggest national threat. Go figure",
">\n\nEh, Christian extremists haven't flown two planes into skyscrapers or shot up an LGBT nightclub or bombed a stadium full of kids or beheaded a teacher because he dared to draw Jesus. I'd say we're a ways away from Christian nationalism being a threat."
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And my point is that a possible threat is far better than two planes crashing into the Twin Towers, which was an actual threat. | [
"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
">\n\nI would classify it as intra-islamic terrorism.",
">\n\nI’m really not looking forward to having to deal with “Post-Modern Islamic Terrorism.”",
">\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\nThe biggest potential threat for Islamist (not Islamic, there's a difference) terrorism in the west post-9/11 was almost always \"lone wolf\" attacks against soft targets.\nWell, the decisive action against ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, and similar organizations both crippled their ability to fund such operations, diminished their reach via social media, and severely crippled their leadership structures. After all, nobody wants to take an afternoon drive and get hit with a slap chop missile that doesn't leave enough left to fill a doggy bag.",
">\n\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\n\nI'd edit that to the US, not the west. Europe has issues still, though they are less than years past as we have mostly destroyed the large organizations.",
">\n\nISIS is now only a shell of what it was before. After government forces recaptured Mosul, that was pretty much its last stand. It became relegated to being tiny and extremely demoralized fighting cells in the desert. Less war like conditions now and therefore less people being displaced. Many of the people who went there to fight with ISIS have become disillusioned after seeing ISIS for what it was. They are either being prosecuted in their home countries or rendered stateless after leaders of various countries have revoked their citizenships. \nToday, Iraq has entered a period of relative stability after ISIS had been significantly weakened and US forces being ejected by the Iraqi government. Syrians are still leaving Assad's regime, albeit at smaller numbers than before. Boko Haram's leader has been killed and its camps have been destroyed.\nA huge but here... Al-Shabaab is still a major concern but more as a domestic concern. Every year, there are several attacks in Mogadishu and other cities throughout Somalia.",
">\n\nI would add that a group of militants attacks Southern Tanzania and northern Mozambique.",
">\n\nI'm actually not sure they are gone but they're definitely in retreat. USA and friends capped a lot of their leadership. They're either in retreat and rebuilding, or just done. I can't answer for Europe but I can also say that the focus in the USA is shifting to domestic terror.\nSorry if my response is too brief. I don't believe the answers are that complex. Religious government is on the rise, authoritarianism also, so they're busy at home. Oppressing the women.",
">\n\nI believe this is what it is too. Focus has shifted.",
">\n\nBecause ISIS was destroyed. Tens of thousands of its fighters were annihilated. And more importantly, Saudi Arabia and the gulf states which exported fundamentalist Islamism are moderating a bit. \nIt’s still a major problem though, just not in the West. The Sahel for instance is constantly ravaged by Islamist violence and there was just recently a massive terror attack in Pakistan.",
">\n\nProbably mainly because there haven't been any major Islamist terror attacks lately, while our attention has been drawn away by all the other scary stuff happening. Also Al Qaeda and ISIS are only a shadow of their former selves by now.",
">\n\nHere in France, there's still several \"Islamic terrorism-adjacent\" murders each year - ie. acts carried out by mentally deranged people that have latched onto Islamism as a motivating idealogy - there was a mass stabbing in Gare du Nord about two weeks ago.",
">\n\nThat’s scary, and I don’t think we even heard about it over here",
">\n\nA) All the leaders are dead. \nB) They’ve probably seen all the chaos in the West over the past decade and realize attacking is a waste of time.",
">\n\nBecause there's a war on Christmas, CRT, the border, and litter boxes in schools happening instead. It will come around again. Our tiny brains can only deal with 3 or 4 drumbeats at a time.",
">\n\nThe GOP can't really harp on Islamic terrorism while American rightwing terrorists are on the uptick.",
">\n\nI think COVID is the thing you're missing. It kinda distracted everyone for a while, and it killed a lot more people than terrorists ever did. Terrorism was always a massively-overinflated threat for the US and Europe, so it was easy to ignore it when an actual threat came along.",
">\n\nNow it’s Christian nationalism that’s our biggest national threat. Go figure",
">\n\nEh, Christian extremists haven't flown two planes into skyscrapers or shot up an LGBT nightclub or bombed a stadium full of kids or beheaded a teacher because he dared to draw Jesus. I'd say we're a ways away from Christian nationalism being a threat.",
">\n\nNo. They bomb abortion clinics and attack liberals and democrats. They launch insurrections when their candidate loses. Christian extremists call for a real-life version of Gilead here in America. They are a much bigger threat than Islamic radicals because they're homegrown terrorists."
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But it’s not a threat now. It’s an event that happened two decades ago. To the point of the OP, this type of extremism is no longer viewed as a threat in America. Recent history suggests that terrorism in the US will much more likely be committed by right wing Americans instead. We shouldn’t need another OKC bombing scale attack to acknowledge that. | [
"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
">\n\nI would classify it as intra-islamic terrorism.",
">\n\nI’m really not looking forward to having to deal with “Post-Modern Islamic Terrorism.”",
">\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\nThe biggest potential threat for Islamist (not Islamic, there's a difference) terrorism in the west post-9/11 was almost always \"lone wolf\" attacks against soft targets.\nWell, the decisive action against ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, and similar organizations both crippled their ability to fund such operations, diminished their reach via social media, and severely crippled their leadership structures. After all, nobody wants to take an afternoon drive and get hit with a slap chop missile that doesn't leave enough left to fill a doggy bag.",
">\n\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\n\nI'd edit that to the US, not the west. Europe has issues still, though they are less than years past as we have mostly destroyed the large organizations.",
">\n\nISIS is now only a shell of what it was before. After government forces recaptured Mosul, that was pretty much its last stand. It became relegated to being tiny and extremely demoralized fighting cells in the desert. Less war like conditions now and therefore less people being displaced. Many of the people who went there to fight with ISIS have become disillusioned after seeing ISIS for what it was. They are either being prosecuted in their home countries or rendered stateless after leaders of various countries have revoked their citizenships. \nToday, Iraq has entered a period of relative stability after ISIS had been significantly weakened and US forces being ejected by the Iraqi government. Syrians are still leaving Assad's regime, albeit at smaller numbers than before. Boko Haram's leader has been killed and its camps have been destroyed.\nA huge but here... Al-Shabaab is still a major concern but more as a domestic concern. Every year, there are several attacks in Mogadishu and other cities throughout Somalia.",
">\n\nI would add that a group of militants attacks Southern Tanzania and northern Mozambique.",
">\n\nI'm actually not sure they are gone but they're definitely in retreat. USA and friends capped a lot of their leadership. They're either in retreat and rebuilding, or just done. I can't answer for Europe but I can also say that the focus in the USA is shifting to domestic terror.\nSorry if my response is too brief. I don't believe the answers are that complex. Religious government is on the rise, authoritarianism also, so they're busy at home. Oppressing the women.",
">\n\nI believe this is what it is too. Focus has shifted.",
">\n\nBecause ISIS was destroyed. Tens of thousands of its fighters were annihilated. And more importantly, Saudi Arabia and the gulf states which exported fundamentalist Islamism are moderating a bit. \nIt’s still a major problem though, just not in the West. The Sahel for instance is constantly ravaged by Islamist violence and there was just recently a massive terror attack in Pakistan.",
">\n\nProbably mainly because there haven't been any major Islamist terror attacks lately, while our attention has been drawn away by all the other scary stuff happening. Also Al Qaeda and ISIS are only a shadow of their former selves by now.",
">\n\nHere in France, there's still several \"Islamic terrorism-adjacent\" murders each year - ie. acts carried out by mentally deranged people that have latched onto Islamism as a motivating idealogy - there was a mass stabbing in Gare du Nord about two weeks ago.",
">\n\nThat’s scary, and I don’t think we even heard about it over here",
">\n\nA) All the leaders are dead. \nB) They’ve probably seen all the chaos in the West over the past decade and realize attacking is a waste of time.",
">\n\nBecause there's a war on Christmas, CRT, the border, and litter boxes in schools happening instead. It will come around again. Our tiny brains can only deal with 3 or 4 drumbeats at a time.",
">\n\nThe GOP can't really harp on Islamic terrorism while American rightwing terrorists are on the uptick.",
">\n\nI think COVID is the thing you're missing. It kinda distracted everyone for a while, and it killed a lot more people than terrorists ever did. Terrorism was always a massively-overinflated threat for the US and Europe, so it was easy to ignore it when an actual threat came along.",
">\n\nNow it’s Christian nationalism that’s our biggest national threat. Go figure",
">\n\nEh, Christian extremists haven't flown two planes into skyscrapers or shot up an LGBT nightclub or bombed a stadium full of kids or beheaded a teacher because he dared to draw Jesus. I'd say we're a ways away from Christian nationalism being a threat.",
">\n\nNo. They bomb abortion clinics and attack liberals and democrats. They launch insurrections when their candidate loses. Christian extremists call for a real-life version of Gilead here in America. They are a much bigger threat than Islamic radicals because they're homegrown terrorists.",
">\n\nAnd my point is that a possible threat is far better than two planes crashing into the Twin Towers, which was an actual threat."
] |
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Only if you bought into the media hype, especially Republican media that needs to instill fear and dread of the "other". I actually had a neighbor who was certain Obama would usher in an era of Sharia law in the US during that time period.
I tried explaining that ISIS and other such extremist Islamic worldviews were medieval in nature, and incapable of successfully propagating (much) in the modern world. They would eventually just burn out on their own. Worldviews can get outcompeted by more successful ones, just like species can. The vast majority of modern people simply do not want to be beheaded (or ruled) by extremists of any religion or ideology. But too many people unquestionably absorb the narratives they hear on tv.
And of course the US needs an enemy du jour to justify its $1T/year war budget. So the American people will always be heavily propagandized by the state (corporate) media to fear the designated "terrorist" group, so they don't ever ask if all that money might otherwise be spent on healthcare, a living wage, or some other unicorn and puppies fantasy like that. | [
"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
">\n\nI would classify it as intra-islamic terrorism.",
">\n\nI’m really not looking forward to having to deal with “Post-Modern Islamic Terrorism.”",
">\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\nThe biggest potential threat for Islamist (not Islamic, there's a difference) terrorism in the west post-9/11 was almost always \"lone wolf\" attacks against soft targets.\nWell, the decisive action against ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, and similar organizations both crippled their ability to fund such operations, diminished their reach via social media, and severely crippled their leadership structures. After all, nobody wants to take an afternoon drive and get hit with a slap chop missile that doesn't leave enough left to fill a doggy bag.",
">\n\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\n\nI'd edit that to the US, not the west. Europe has issues still, though they are less than years past as we have mostly destroyed the large organizations.",
">\n\nISIS is now only a shell of what it was before. After government forces recaptured Mosul, that was pretty much its last stand. It became relegated to being tiny and extremely demoralized fighting cells in the desert. Less war like conditions now and therefore less people being displaced. Many of the people who went there to fight with ISIS have become disillusioned after seeing ISIS for what it was. They are either being prosecuted in their home countries or rendered stateless after leaders of various countries have revoked their citizenships. \nToday, Iraq has entered a period of relative stability after ISIS had been significantly weakened and US forces being ejected by the Iraqi government. Syrians are still leaving Assad's regime, albeit at smaller numbers than before. Boko Haram's leader has been killed and its camps have been destroyed.\nA huge but here... Al-Shabaab is still a major concern but more as a domestic concern. Every year, there are several attacks in Mogadishu and other cities throughout Somalia.",
">\n\nI would add that a group of militants attacks Southern Tanzania and northern Mozambique.",
">\n\nI'm actually not sure they are gone but they're definitely in retreat. USA and friends capped a lot of their leadership. They're either in retreat and rebuilding, or just done. I can't answer for Europe but I can also say that the focus in the USA is shifting to domestic terror.\nSorry if my response is too brief. I don't believe the answers are that complex. Religious government is on the rise, authoritarianism also, so they're busy at home. Oppressing the women.",
">\n\nI believe this is what it is too. Focus has shifted.",
">\n\nBecause ISIS was destroyed. Tens of thousands of its fighters were annihilated. And more importantly, Saudi Arabia and the gulf states which exported fundamentalist Islamism are moderating a bit. \nIt’s still a major problem though, just not in the West. The Sahel for instance is constantly ravaged by Islamist violence and there was just recently a massive terror attack in Pakistan.",
">\n\nProbably mainly because there haven't been any major Islamist terror attacks lately, while our attention has been drawn away by all the other scary stuff happening. Also Al Qaeda and ISIS are only a shadow of their former selves by now.",
">\n\nHere in France, there's still several \"Islamic terrorism-adjacent\" murders each year - ie. acts carried out by mentally deranged people that have latched onto Islamism as a motivating idealogy - there was a mass stabbing in Gare du Nord about two weeks ago.",
">\n\nThat’s scary, and I don’t think we even heard about it over here",
">\n\nA) All the leaders are dead. \nB) They’ve probably seen all the chaos in the West over the past decade and realize attacking is a waste of time.",
">\n\nBecause there's a war on Christmas, CRT, the border, and litter boxes in schools happening instead. It will come around again. Our tiny brains can only deal with 3 or 4 drumbeats at a time.",
">\n\nThe GOP can't really harp on Islamic terrorism while American rightwing terrorists are on the uptick.",
">\n\nI think COVID is the thing you're missing. It kinda distracted everyone for a while, and it killed a lot more people than terrorists ever did. Terrorism was always a massively-overinflated threat for the US and Europe, so it was easy to ignore it when an actual threat came along.",
">\n\nNow it’s Christian nationalism that’s our biggest national threat. Go figure",
">\n\nEh, Christian extremists haven't flown two planes into skyscrapers or shot up an LGBT nightclub or bombed a stadium full of kids or beheaded a teacher because he dared to draw Jesus. I'd say we're a ways away from Christian nationalism being a threat.",
">\n\nNo. They bomb abortion clinics and attack liberals and democrats. They launch insurrections when their candidate loses. Christian extremists call for a real-life version of Gilead here in America. They are a much bigger threat than Islamic radicals because they're homegrown terrorists.",
">\n\nAnd my point is that a possible threat is far better than two planes crashing into the Twin Towers, which was an actual threat.",
">\n\nBut it’s not a threat now. It’s an event that happened two decades ago. To the point of the OP, this type of extremism is no longer viewed as a threat in America. Recent history suggests that terrorism in the US will much more likely be committed by right wing Americans instead. We shouldn’t need another OKC bombing scale attack to acknowledge that."
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I know your ass isn’t blaming the “republican media” when Obama literally drone strikes so many people we ran out of bombs | [
"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
">\n\nI would classify it as intra-islamic terrorism.",
">\n\nI’m really not looking forward to having to deal with “Post-Modern Islamic Terrorism.”",
">\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\nThe biggest potential threat for Islamist (not Islamic, there's a difference) terrorism in the west post-9/11 was almost always \"lone wolf\" attacks against soft targets.\nWell, the decisive action against ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, and similar organizations both crippled their ability to fund such operations, diminished their reach via social media, and severely crippled their leadership structures. After all, nobody wants to take an afternoon drive and get hit with a slap chop missile that doesn't leave enough left to fill a doggy bag.",
">\n\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\n\nI'd edit that to the US, not the west. Europe has issues still, though they are less than years past as we have mostly destroyed the large organizations.",
">\n\nISIS is now only a shell of what it was before. After government forces recaptured Mosul, that was pretty much its last stand. It became relegated to being tiny and extremely demoralized fighting cells in the desert. Less war like conditions now and therefore less people being displaced. Many of the people who went there to fight with ISIS have become disillusioned after seeing ISIS for what it was. They are either being prosecuted in their home countries or rendered stateless after leaders of various countries have revoked their citizenships. \nToday, Iraq has entered a period of relative stability after ISIS had been significantly weakened and US forces being ejected by the Iraqi government. Syrians are still leaving Assad's regime, albeit at smaller numbers than before. Boko Haram's leader has been killed and its camps have been destroyed.\nA huge but here... Al-Shabaab is still a major concern but more as a domestic concern. Every year, there are several attacks in Mogadishu and other cities throughout Somalia.",
">\n\nI would add that a group of militants attacks Southern Tanzania and northern Mozambique.",
">\n\nI'm actually not sure they are gone but they're definitely in retreat. USA and friends capped a lot of their leadership. They're either in retreat and rebuilding, or just done. I can't answer for Europe but I can also say that the focus in the USA is shifting to domestic terror.\nSorry if my response is too brief. I don't believe the answers are that complex. Religious government is on the rise, authoritarianism also, so they're busy at home. Oppressing the women.",
">\n\nI believe this is what it is too. Focus has shifted.",
">\n\nBecause ISIS was destroyed. Tens of thousands of its fighters were annihilated. And more importantly, Saudi Arabia and the gulf states which exported fundamentalist Islamism are moderating a bit. \nIt’s still a major problem though, just not in the West. The Sahel for instance is constantly ravaged by Islamist violence and there was just recently a massive terror attack in Pakistan.",
">\n\nProbably mainly because there haven't been any major Islamist terror attacks lately, while our attention has been drawn away by all the other scary stuff happening. Also Al Qaeda and ISIS are only a shadow of their former selves by now.",
">\n\nHere in France, there's still several \"Islamic terrorism-adjacent\" murders each year - ie. acts carried out by mentally deranged people that have latched onto Islamism as a motivating idealogy - there was a mass stabbing in Gare du Nord about two weeks ago.",
">\n\nThat’s scary, and I don’t think we even heard about it over here",
">\n\nA) All the leaders are dead. \nB) They’ve probably seen all the chaos in the West over the past decade and realize attacking is a waste of time.",
">\n\nBecause there's a war on Christmas, CRT, the border, and litter boxes in schools happening instead. It will come around again. Our tiny brains can only deal with 3 or 4 drumbeats at a time.",
">\n\nThe GOP can't really harp on Islamic terrorism while American rightwing terrorists are on the uptick.",
">\n\nI think COVID is the thing you're missing. It kinda distracted everyone for a while, and it killed a lot more people than terrorists ever did. Terrorism was always a massively-overinflated threat for the US and Europe, so it was easy to ignore it when an actual threat came along.",
">\n\nNow it’s Christian nationalism that’s our biggest national threat. Go figure",
">\n\nEh, Christian extremists haven't flown two planes into skyscrapers or shot up an LGBT nightclub or bombed a stadium full of kids or beheaded a teacher because he dared to draw Jesus. I'd say we're a ways away from Christian nationalism being a threat.",
">\n\nNo. They bomb abortion clinics and attack liberals and democrats. They launch insurrections when their candidate loses. Christian extremists call for a real-life version of Gilead here in America. They are a much bigger threat than Islamic radicals because they're homegrown terrorists.",
">\n\nAnd my point is that a possible threat is far better than two planes crashing into the Twin Towers, which was an actual threat.",
">\n\nBut it’s not a threat now. It’s an event that happened two decades ago. To the point of the OP, this type of extremism is no longer viewed as a threat in America. Recent history suggests that terrorism in the US will much more likely be committed by right wing Americans instead. We shouldn’t need another OKC bombing scale attack to acknowledge that.",
">\n\nOnly if you bought into the media hype, especially Republican media that needs to instill fear and dread of the \"other\". I actually had a neighbor who was certain Obama would usher in an era of Sharia law in the US during that time period.\nI tried explaining that ISIS and other such extremist Islamic worldviews were medieval in nature, and incapable of successfully propagating (much) in the modern world. They would eventually just burn out on their own. Worldviews can get outcompeted by more successful ones, just like species can. The vast majority of modern people simply do not want to be beheaded (or ruled) by extremists of any religion or ideology. But too many people unquestionably absorb the narratives they hear on tv.\nAnd of course the US needs an enemy du jour to justify its $1T/year war budget. So the American people will always be heavily propagandized by the state (corporate) media to fear the designated \"terrorist\" group, so they don't ever ask if all that money might otherwise be spent on healthcare, a living wage, or some other unicorn and puppies fantasy like that."
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I’m sorry if I didn’t structure my essay as clearly as I intended.
Both sides of the US corporate media often push the same false narratives but for different purposes. The Republicans pushed “radical Islamic terrorism” because they hate and fear “foreign” people especially if they are “non Christian”. And because the Democrats are “soft on terror” and “want Sharia law”.
The Democrats pushed for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, and yes unquestioningly allowed Obama’s and then trump’s drone attacks, because “they attacked us on 9/11” and “they are the bad terrorists we must fight over there so they can’t blow us up here” as the pretext (which was also Bush Junior’s line of reasoning), but more truly because the military industrial complex needs liberals to keep paying them hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars every year.
Republicans basically hate and fear all Muslims (remember they cheered trump’s Muslim ban), while liberals are only afraid of the “extremist” Muslims that CNN and the NYT tell them to fear. But in both cases, most Americans lost their taste for endless war in the Middle East. It’s much easier to sell them on a new endless war in the Ukraine. Especially since Putin clearly also is a power hungry dictator who made the calculation that he could more easily maintain power as a “war president”, much as the calculation Cheney/Bush made when they decided to invade Iraq (remember George Tenet said it was going to be a “slam dunk” and then we were stuck there for a decade — but the people still re-elected the dumbest and most incompetent president we ever had up to that point).
Both political parties are the two wings of the capitalist corporatist militarist party that runs the United States. The American people (all of them regardless of affiliation, religious belief, and education level) are the most heavily propagandized people in the history of the world. The American people could have voted for someone who voted against the Iraq war and who has vocally been against arming the Saudi’s in their Yemen war (Bernie Sanders) in 2016 and then again in 2020 but they voted for the War Mongers of both parties, both times. The vast majority of all Americans would rather spend their hard earned money on keeping their military bloated, rather than giving themselves universal single-payer healthcare or a guaranteed livable wage. | [
"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
">\n\nI would classify it as intra-islamic terrorism.",
">\n\nI’m really not looking forward to having to deal with “Post-Modern Islamic Terrorism.”",
">\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\nThe biggest potential threat for Islamist (not Islamic, there's a difference) terrorism in the west post-9/11 was almost always \"lone wolf\" attacks against soft targets.\nWell, the decisive action against ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, and similar organizations both crippled their ability to fund such operations, diminished their reach via social media, and severely crippled their leadership structures. After all, nobody wants to take an afternoon drive and get hit with a slap chop missile that doesn't leave enough left to fill a doggy bag.",
">\n\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\n\nI'd edit that to the US, not the west. Europe has issues still, though they are less than years past as we have mostly destroyed the large organizations.",
">\n\nISIS is now only a shell of what it was before. After government forces recaptured Mosul, that was pretty much its last stand. It became relegated to being tiny and extremely demoralized fighting cells in the desert. Less war like conditions now and therefore less people being displaced. Many of the people who went there to fight with ISIS have become disillusioned after seeing ISIS for what it was. They are either being prosecuted in their home countries or rendered stateless after leaders of various countries have revoked their citizenships. \nToday, Iraq has entered a period of relative stability after ISIS had been significantly weakened and US forces being ejected by the Iraqi government. Syrians are still leaving Assad's regime, albeit at smaller numbers than before. Boko Haram's leader has been killed and its camps have been destroyed.\nA huge but here... Al-Shabaab is still a major concern but more as a domestic concern. Every year, there are several attacks in Mogadishu and other cities throughout Somalia.",
">\n\nI would add that a group of militants attacks Southern Tanzania and northern Mozambique.",
">\n\nI'm actually not sure they are gone but they're definitely in retreat. USA and friends capped a lot of their leadership. They're either in retreat and rebuilding, or just done. I can't answer for Europe but I can also say that the focus in the USA is shifting to domestic terror.\nSorry if my response is too brief. I don't believe the answers are that complex. Religious government is on the rise, authoritarianism also, so they're busy at home. Oppressing the women.",
">\n\nI believe this is what it is too. Focus has shifted.",
">\n\nBecause ISIS was destroyed. Tens of thousands of its fighters were annihilated. And more importantly, Saudi Arabia and the gulf states which exported fundamentalist Islamism are moderating a bit. \nIt’s still a major problem though, just not in the West. The Sahel for instance is constantly ravaged by Islamist violence and there was just recently a massive terror attack in Pakistan.",
">\n\nProbably mainly because there haven't been any major Islamist terror attacks lately, while our attention has been drawn away by all the other scary stuff happening. Also Al Qaeda and ISIS are only a shadow of their former selves by now.",
">\n\nHere in France, there's still several \"Islamic terrorism-adjacent\" murders each year - ie. acts carried out by mentally deranged people that have latched onto Islamism as a motivating idealogy - there was a mass stabbing in Gare du Nord about two weeks ago.",
">\n\nThat’s scary, and I don’t think we even heard about it over here",
">\n\nA) All the leaders are dead. \nB) They’ve probably seen all the chaos in the West over the past decade and realize attacking is a waste of time.",
">\n\nBecause there's a war on Christmas, CRT, the border, and litter boxes in schools happening instead. It will come around again. Our tiny brains can only deal with 3 or 4 drumbeats at a time.",
">\n\nThe GOP can't really harp on Islamic terrorism while American rightwing terrorists are on the uptick.",
">\n\nI think COVID is the thing you're missing. It kinda distracted everyone for a while, and it killed a lot more people than terrorists ever did. Terrorism was always a massively-overinflated threat for the US and Europe, so it was easy to ignore it when an actual threat came along.",
">\n\nNow it’s Christian nationalism that’s our biggest national threat. Go figure",
">\n\nEh, Christian extremists haven't flown two planes into skyscrapers or shot up an LGBT nightclub or bombed a stadium full of kids or beheaded a teacher because he dared to draw Jesus. I'd say we're a ways away from Christian nationalism being a threat.",
">\n\nNo. They bomb abortion clinics and attack liberals and democrats. They launch insurrections when their candidate loses. Christian extremists call for a real-life version of Gilead here in America. They are a much bigger threat than Islamic radicals because they're homegrown terrorists.",
">\n\nAnd my point is that a possible threat is far better than two planes crashing into the Twin Towers, which was an actual threat.",
">\n\nBut it’s not a threat now. It’s an event that happened two decades ago. To the point of the OP, this type of extremism is no longer viewed as a threat in America. Recent history suggests that terrorism in the US will much more likely be committed by right wing Americans instead. We shouldn’t need another OKC bombing scale attack to acknowledge that.",
">\n\nOnly if you bought into the media hype, especially Republican media that needs to instill fear and dread of the \"other\". I actually had a neighbor who was certain Obama would usher in an era of Sharia law in the US during that time period.\nI tried explaining that ISIS and other such extremist Islamic worldviews were medieval in nature, and incapable of successfully propagating (much) in the modern world. They would eventually just burn out on their own. Worldviews can get outcompeted by more successful ones, just like species can. The vast majority of modern people simply do not want to be beheaded (or ruled) by extremists of any religion or ideology. But too many people unquestionably absorb the narratives they hear on tv.\nAnd of course the US needs an enemy du jour to justify its $1T/year war budget. So the American people will always be heavily propagandized by the state (corporate) media to fear the designated \"terrorist\" group, so they don't ever ask if all that money might otherwise be spent on healthcare, a living wage, or some other unicorn and puppies fantasy like that.",
">\n\nI know your ass isn’t blaming the “republican media” when Obama literally drone strikes so many people we ran out of bombs"
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Every single media outlet pushed war. candi rice and Hilary Clinton were literally just on a podcast still talking about WMD. Every news outlet lied. Every politician lied. The republicans just wore it on their sleeve more and the dems were dropping bombs with HOPE on them.
Edit: the DNC trashed Bernie’s campaign both times and he rolled over. There is no hope for an anti war party in America. Is there any legitimate pushback with Ukraine ? If you criticize the escalation you get attacked. Was the same thing after 9/11. | [
"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
">\n\nI would classify it as intra-islamic terrorism.",
">\n\nI’m really not looking forward to having to deal with “Post-Modern Islamic Terrorism.”",
">\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\nThe biggest potential threat for Islamist (not Islamic, there's a difference) terrorism in the west post-9/11 was almost always \"lone wolf\" attacks against soft targets.\nWell, the decisive action against ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, and similar organizations both crippled their ability to fund such operations, diminished their reach via social media, and severely crippled their leadership structures. After all, nobody wants to take an afternoon drive and get hit with a slap chop missile that doesn't leave enough left to fill a doggy bag.",
">\n\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\n\nI'd edit that to the US, not the west. Europe has issues still, though they are less than years past as we have mostly destroyed the large organizations.",
">\n\nISIS is now only a shell of what it was before. After government forces recaptured Mosul, that was pretty much its last stand. It became relegated to being tiny and extremely demoralized fighting cells in the desert. Less war like conditions now and therefore less people being displaced. Many of the people who went there to fight with ISIS have become disillusioned after seeing ISIS for what it was. They are either being prosecuted in their home countries or rendered stateless after leaders of various countries have revoked their citizenships. \nToday, Iraq has entered a period of relative stability after ISIS had been significantly weakened and US forces being ejected by the Iraqi government. Syrians are still leaving Assad's regime, albeit at smaller numbers than before. Boko Haram's leader has been killed and its camps have been destroyed.\nA huge but here... Al-Shabaab is still a major concern but more as a domestic concern. Every year, there are several attacks in Mogadishu and other cities throughout Somalia.",
">\n\nI would add that a group of militants attacks Southern Tanzania and northern Mozambique.",
">\n\nI'm actually not sure they are gone but they're definitely in retreat. USA and friends capped a lot of their leadership. They're either in retreat and rebuilding, or just done. I can't answer for Europe but I can also say that the focus in the USA is shifting to domestic terror.\nSorry if my response is too brief. I don't believe the answers are that complex. Religious government is on the rise, authoritarianism also, so they're busy at home. Oppressing the women.",
">\n\nI believe this is what it is too. Focus has shifted.",
">\n\nBecause ISIS was destroyed. Tens of thousands of its fighters were annihilated. And more importantly, Saudi Arabia and the gulf states which exported fundamentalist Islamism are moderating a bit. \nIt’s still a major problem though, just not in the West. The Sahel for instance is constantly ravaged by Islamist violence and there was just recently a massive terror attack in Pakistan.",
">\n\nProbably mainly because there haven't been any major Islamist terror attacks lately, while our attention has been drawn away by all the other scary stuff happening. Also Al Qaeda and ISIS are only a shadow of their former selves by now.",
">\n\nHere in France, there's still several \"Islamic terrorism-adjacent\" murders each year - ie. acts carried out by mentally deranged people that have latched onto Islamism as a motivating idealogy - there was a mass stabbing in Gare du Nord about two weeks ago.",
">\n\nThat’s scary, and I don’t think we even heard about it over here",
">\n\nA) All the leaders are dead. \nB) They’ve probably seen all the chaos in the West over the past decade and realize attacking is a waste of time.",
">\n\nBecause there's a war on Christmas, CRT, the border, and litter boxes in schools happening instead. It will come around again. Our tiny brains can only deal with 3 or 4 drumbeats at a time.",
">\n\nThe GOP can't really harp on Islamic terrorism while American rightwing terrorists are on the uptick.",
">\n\nI think COVID is the thing you're missing. It kinda distracted everyone for a while, and it killed a lot more people than terrorists ever did. Terrorism was always a massively-overinflated threat for the US and Europe, so it was easy to ignore it when an actual threat came along.",
">\n\nNow it’s Christian nationalism that’s our biggest national threat. Go figure",
">\n\nEh, Christian extremists haven't flown two planes into skyscrapers or shot up an LGBT nightclub or bombed a stadium full of kids or beheaded a teacher because he dared to draw Jesus. I'd say we're a ways away from Christian nationalism being a threat.",
">\n\nNo. They bomb abortion clinics and attack liberals and democrats. They launch insurrections when their candidate loses. Christian extremists call for a real-life version of Gilead here in America. They are a much bigger threat than Islamic radicals because they're homegrown terrorists.",
">\n\nAnd my point is that a possible threat is far better than two planes crashing into the Twin Towers, which was an actual threat.",
">\n\nBut it’s not a threat now. It’s an event that happened two decades ago. To the point of the OP, this type of extremism is no longer viewed as a threat in America. Recent history suggests that terrorism in the US will much more likely be committed by right wing Americans instead. We shouldn’t need another OKC bombing scale attack to acknowledge that.",
">\n\nOnly if you bought into the media hype, especially Republican media that needs to instill fear and dread of the \"other\". I actually had a neighbor who was certain Obama would usher in an era of Sharia law in the US during that time period.\nI tried explaining that ISIS and other such extremist Islamic worldviews were medieval in nature, and incapable of successfully propagating (much) in the modern world. They would eventually just burn out on their own. Worldviews can get outcompeted by more successful ones, just like species can. The vast majority of modern people simply do not want to be beheaded (or ruled) by extremists of any religion or ideology. But too many people unquestionably absorb the narratives they hear on tv.\nAnd of course the US needs an enemy du jour to justify its $1T/year war budget. So the American people will always be heavily propagandized by the state (corporate) media to fear the designated \"terrorist\" group, so they don't ever ask if all that money might otherwise be spent on healthcare, a living wage, or some other unicorn and puppies fantasy like that.",
">\n\nI know your ass isn’t blaming the “republican media” when Obama literally drone strikes so many people we ran out of bombs",
">\n\nI’m sorry if I didn’t structure my essay as clearly as I intended. \nBoth sides of the US corporate media often push the same false narratives but for different purposes. The Republicans pushed “radical Islamic terrorism” because they hate and fear “foreign” people especially if they are “non Christian”. And because the Democrats are “soft on terror” and “want Sharia law”.\nThe Democrats pushed for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, and yes unquestioningly allowed Obama’s and then trump’s drone attacks, because “they attacked us on 9/11” and “they are the bad terrorists we must fight over there so they can’t blow us up here” as the pretext (which was also Bush Junior’s line of reasoning), but more truly because the military industrial complex needs liberals to keep paying them hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars every year. \nRepublicans basically hate and fear all Muslims (remember they cheered trump’s Muslim ban), while liberals are only afraid of the “extremist” Muslims that CNN and the NYT tell them to fear. But in both cases, most Americans lost their taste for endless war in the Middle East. It’s much easier to sell them on a new endless war in the Ukraine. Especially since Putin clearly also is a power hungry dictator who made the calculation that he could more easily maintain power as a “war president”, much as the calculation Cheney/Bush made when they decided to invade Iraq (remember George Tenet said it was going to be a “slam dunk” and then we were stuck there for a decade — but the people still re-elected the dumbest and most incompetent president we ever had up to that point). \nBoth political parties are the two wings of the capitalist corporatist militarist party that runs the United States. The American people (all of them regardless of affiliation, religious belief, and education level) are the most heavily propagandized people in the history of the world. The American people could have voted for someone who voted against the Iraq war and who has vocally been against arming the Saudi’s in their Yemen war (Bernie Sanders) in 2016 and then again in 2020 but they voted for the War Mongers of both parties, both times. The vast majority of all Americans would rather spend their hard earned money on keeping their military bloated, rather than giving themselves universal single-payer healthcare or a guaranteed livable wage."
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The right wing wants everyone to fear transgender people now. They are the new "other" to hate. | [
"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
">\n\nI would classify it as intra-islamic terrorism.",
">\n\nI’m really not looking forward to having to deal with “Post-Modern Islamic Terrorism.”",
">\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\nThe biggest potential threat for Islamist (not Islamic, there's a difference) terrorism in the west post-9/11 was almost always \"lone wolf\" attacks against soft targets.\nWell, the decisive action against ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, and similar organizations both crippled their ability to fund such operations, diminished their reach via social media, and severely crippled their leadership structures. After all, nobody wants to take an afternoon drive and get hit with a slap chop missile that doesn't leave enough left to fill a doggy bag.",
">\n\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\n\nI'd edit that to the US, not the west. Europe has issues still, though they are less than years past as we have mostly destroyed the large organizations.",
">\n\nISIS is now only a shell of what it was before. After government forces recaptured Mosul, that was pretty much its last stand. It became relegated to being tiny and extremely demoralized fighting cells in the desert. Less war like conditions now and therefore less people being displaced. Many of the people who went there to fight with ISIS have become disillusioned after seeing ISIS for what it was. They are either being prosecuted in their home countries or rendered stateless after leaders of various countries have revoked their citizenships. \nToday, Iraq has entered a period of relative stability after ISIS had been significantly weakened and US forces being ejected by the Iraqi government. Syrians are still leaving Assad's regime, albeit at smaller numbers than before. Boko Haram's leader has been killed and its camps have been destroyed.\nA huge but here... Al-Shabaab is still a major concern but more as a domestic concern. Every year, there are several attacks in Mogadishu and other cities throughout Somalia.",
">\n\nI would add that a group of militants attacks Southern Tanzania and northern Mozambique.",
">\n\nI'm actually not sure they are gone but they're definitely in retreat. USA and friends capped a lot of their leadership. They're either in retreat and rebuilding, or just done. I can't answer for Europe but I can also say that the focus in the USA is shifting to domestic terror.\nSorry if my response is too brief. I don't believe the answers are that complex. Religious government is on the rise, authoritarianism also, so they're busy at home. Oppressing the women.",
">\n\nI believe this is what it is too. Focus has shifted.",
">\n\nBecause ISIS was destroyed. Tens of thousands of its fighters were annihilated. And more importantly, Saudi Arabia and the gulf states which exported fundamentalist Islamism are moderating a bit. \nIt’s still a major problem though, just not in the West. The Sahel for instance is constantly ravaged by Islamist violence and there was just recently a massive terror attack in Pakistan.",
">\n\nProbably mainly because there haven't been any major Islamist terror attacks lately, while our attention has been drawn away by all the other scary stuff happening. Also Al Qaeda and ISIS are only a shadow of their former selves by now.",
">\n\nHere in France, there's still several \"Islamic terrorism-adjacent\" murders each year - ie. acts carried out by mentally deranged people that have latched onto Islamism as a motivating idealogy - there was a mass stabbing in Gare du Nord about two weeks ago.",
">\n\nThat’s scary, and I don’t think we even heard about it over here",
">\n\nA) All the leaders are dead. \nB) They’ve probably seen all the chaos in the West over the past decade and realize attacking is a waste of time.",
">\n\nBecause there's a war on Christmas, CRT, the border, and litter boxes in schools happening instead. It will come around again. Our tiny brains can only deal with 3 or 4 drumbeats at a time.",
">\n\nThe GOP can't really harp on Islamic terrorism while American rightwing terrorists are on the uptick.",
">\n\nI think COVID is the thing you're missing. It kinda distracted everyone for a while, and it killed a lot more people than terrorists ever did. Terrorism was always a massively-overinflated threat for the US and Europe, so it was easy to ignore it when an actual threat came along.",
">\n\nNow it’s Christian nationalism that’s our biggest national threat. Go figure",
">\n\nEh, Christian extremists haven't flown two planes into skyscrapers or shot up an LGBT nightclub or bombed a stadium full of kids or beheaded a teacher because he dared to draw Jesus. I'd say we're a ways away from Christian nationalism being a threat.",
">\n\nNo. They bomb abortion clinics and attack liberals and democrats. They launch insurrections when their candidate loses. Christian extremists call for a real-life version of Gilead here in America. They are a much bigger threat than Islamic radicals because they're homegrown terrorists.",
">\n\nAnd my point is that a possible threat is far better than two planes crashing into the Twin Towers, which was an actual threat.",
">\n\nBut it’s not a threat now. It’s an event that happened two decades ago. To the point of the OP, this type of extremism is no longer viewed as a threat in America. Recent history suggests that terrorism in the US will much more likely be committed by right wing Americans instead. We shouldn’t need another OKC bombing scale attack to acknowledge that.",
">\n\nOnly if you bought into the media hype, especially Republican media that needs to instill fear and dread of the \"other\". I actually had a neighbor who was certain Obama would usher in an era of Sharia law in the US during that time period.\nI tried explaining that ISIS and other such extremist Islamic worldviews were medieval in nature, and incapable of successfully propagating (much) in the modern world. They would eventually just burn out on their own. Worldviews can get outcompeted by more successful ones, just like species can. The vast majority of modern people simply do not want to be beheaded (or ruled) by extremists of any religion or ideology. But too many people unquestionably absorb the narratives they hear on tv.\nAnd of course the US needs an enemy du jour to justify its $1T/year war budget. So the American people will always be heavily propagandized by the state (corporate) media to fear the designated \"terrorist\" group, so they don't ever ask if all that money might otherwise be spent on healthcare, a living wage, or some other unicorn and puppies fantasy like that.",
">\n\nI know your ass isn’t blaming the “republican media” when Obama literally drone strikes so many people we ran out of bombs",
">\n\nI’m sorry if I didn’t structure my essay as clearly as I intended. \nBoth sides of the US corporate media often push the same false narratives but for different purposes. The Republicans pushed “radical Islamic terrorism” because they hate and fear “foreign” people especially if they are “non Christian”. And because the Democrats are “soft on terror” and “want Sharia law”.\nThe Democrats pushed for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, and yes unquestioningly allowed Obama’s and then trump’s drone attacks, because “they attacked us on 9/11” and “they are the bad terrorists we must fight over there so they can’t blow us up here” as the pretext (which was also Bush Junior’s line of reasoning), but more truly because the military industrial complex needs liberals to keep paying them hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars every year. \nRepublicans basically hate and fear all Muslims (remember they cheered trump’s Muslim ban), while liberals are only afraid of the “extremist” Muslims that CNN and the NYT tell them to fear. But in both cases, most Americans lost their taste for endless war in the Middle East. It’s much easier to sell them on a new endless war in the Ukraine. Especially since Putin clearly also is a power hungry dictator who made the calculation that he could more easily maintain power as a “war president”, much as the calculation Cheney/Bush made when they decided to invade Iraq (remember George Tenet said it was going to be a “slam dunk” and then we were stuck there for a decade — but the people still re-elected the dumbest and most incompetent president we ever had up to that point). \nBoth political parties are the two wings of the capitalist corporatist militarist party that runs the United States. The American people (all of them regardless of affiliation, religious belief, and education level) are the most heavily propagandized people in the history of the world. The American people could have voted for someone who voted against the Iraq war and who has vocally been against arming the Saudi’s in their Yemen war (Bernie Sanders) in 2016 and then again in 2020 but they voted for the War Mongers of both parties, both times. The vast majority of all Americans would rather spend their hard earned money on keeping their military bloated, rather than giving themselves universal single-payer healthcare or a guaranteed livable wage.",
">\n\nEvery single media outlet pushed war. candi rice and Hilary Clinton were literally just on a podcast still talking about WMD. Every news outlet lied. Every politician lied. The republicans just wore it on their sleeve more and the dems were dropping bombs with HOPE on them.\nEdit: the DNC trashed Bernie’s campaign both times and he rolled over. There is no hope for an anti war party in America. Is there any legitimate pushback with Ukraine ? If you criticize the escalation you get attacked. Was the same thing after 9/11."
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MaGA Republicans and cancel culture crazies are probably the new terrorists while Islamists are sitting quietly in the back of the bus planning the next 9-11 | [
"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
">\n\nI would classify it as intra-islamic terrorism.",
">\n\nI’m really not looking forward to having to deal with “Post-Modern Islamic Terrorism.”",
">\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\nThe biggest potential threat for Islamist (not Islamic, there's a difference) terrorism in the west post-9/11 was almost always \"lone wolf\" attacks against soft targets.\nWell, the decisive action against ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, and similar organizations both crippled their ability to fund such operations, diminished their reach via social media, and severely crippled their leadership structures. After all, nobody wants to take an afternoon drive and get hit with a slap chop missile that doesn't leave enough left to fill a doggy bag.",
">\n\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\n\nI'd edit that to the US, not the west. Europe has issues still, though they are less than years past as we have mostly destroyed the large organizations.",
">\n\nISIS is now only a shell of what it was before. After government forces recaptured Mosul, that was pretty much its last stand. It became relegated to being tiny and extremely demoralized fighting cells in the desert. Less war like conditions now and therefore less people being displaced. Many of the people who went there to fight with ISIS have become disillusioned after seeing ISIS for what it was. They are either being prosecuted in their home countries or rendered stateless after leaders of various countries have revoked their citizenships. \nToday, Iraq has entered a period of relative stability after ISIS had been significantly weakened and US forces being ejected by the Iraqi government. Syrians are still leaving Assad's regime, albeit at smaller numbers than before. Boko Haram's leader has been killed and its camps have been destroyed.\nA huge but here... Al-Shabaab is still a major concern but more as a domestic concern. Every year, there are several attacks in Mogadishu and other cities throughout Somalia.",
">\n\nI would add that a group of militants attacks Southern Tanzania and northern Mozambique.",
">\n\nI'm actually not sure they are gone but they're definitely in retreat. USA and friends capped a lot of their leadership. They're either in retreat and rebuilding, or just done. I can't answer for Europe but I can also say that the focus in the USA is shifting to domestic terror.\nSorry if my response is too brief. I don't believe the answers are that complex. Religious government is on the rise, authoritarianism also, so they're busy at home. Oppressing the women.",
">\n\nI believe this is what it is too. Focus has shifted.",
">\n\nBecause ISIS was destroyed. Tens of thousands of its fighters were annihilated. And more importantly, Saudi Arabia and the gulf states which exported fundamentalist Islamism are moderating a bit. \nIt’s still a major problem though, just not in the West. The Sahel for instance is constantly ravaged by Islamist violence and there was just recently a massive terror attack in Pakistan.",
">\n\nProbably mainly because there haven't been any major Islamist terror attacks lately, while our attention has been drawn away by all the other scary stuff happening. Also Al Qaeda and ISIS are only a shadow of their former selves by now.",
">\n\nHere in France, there's still several \"Islamic terrorism-adjacent\" murders each year - ie. acts carried out by mentally deranged people that have latched onto Islamism as a motivating idealogy - there was a mass stabbing in Gare du Nord about two weeks ago.",
">\n\nThat’s scary, and I don’t think we even heard about it over here",
">\n\nA) All the leaders are dead. \nB) They’ve probably seen all the chaos in the West over the past decade and realize attacking is a waste of time.",
">\n\nBecause there's a war on Christmas, CRT, the border, and litter boxes in schools happening instead. It will come around again. Our tiny brains can only deal with 3 or 4 drumbeats at a time.",
">\n\nThe GOP can't really harp on Islamic terrorism while American rightwing terrorists are on the uptick.",
">\n\nI think COVID is the thing you're missing. It kinda distracted everyone for a while, and it killed a lot more people than terrorists ever did. Terrorism was always a massively-overinflated threat for the US and Europe, so it was easy to ignore it when an actual threat came along.",
">\n\nNow it’s Christian nationalism that’s our biggest national threat. Go figure",
">\n\nEh, Christian extremists haven't flown two planes into skyscrapers or shot up an LGBT nightclub or bombed a stadium full of kids or beheaded a teacher because he dared to draw Jesus. I'd say we're a ways away from Christian nationalism being a threat.",
">\n\nNo. They bomb abortion clinics and attack liberals and democrats. They launch insurrections when their candidate loses. Christian extremists call for a real-life version of Gilead here in America. They are a much bigger threat than Islamic radicals because they're homegrown terrorists.",
">\n\nAnd my point is that a possible threat is far better than two planes crashing into the Twin Towers, which was an actual threat.",
">\n\nBut it’s not a threat now. It’s an event that happened two decades ago. To the point of the OP, this type of extremism is no longer viewed as a threat in America. Recent history suggests that terrorism in the US will much more likely be committed by right wing Americans instead. We shouldn’t need another OKC bombing scale attack to acknowledge that.",
">\n\nOnly if you bought into the media hype, especially Republican media that needs to instill fear and dread of the \"other\". I actually had a neighbor who was certain Obama would usher in an era of Sharia law in the US during that time period.\nI tried explaining that ISIS and other such extremist Islamic worldviews were medieval in nature, and incapable of successfully propagating (much) in the modern world. They would eventually just burn out on their own. Worldviews can get outcompeted by more successful ones, just like species can. The vast majority of modern people simply do not want to be beheaded (or ruled) by extremists of any religion or ideology. But too many people unquestionably absorb the narratives they hear on tv.\nAnd of course the US needs an enemy du jour to justify its $1T/year war budget. So the American people will always be heavily propagandized by the state (corporate) media to fear the designated \"terrorist\" group, so they don't ever ask if all that money might otherwise be spent on healthcare, a living wage, or some other unicorn and puppies fantasy like that.",
">\n\nI know your ass isn’t blaming the “republican media” when Obama literally drone strikes so many people we ran out of bombs",
">\n\nI’m sorry if I didn’t structure my essay as clearly as I intended. \nBoth sides of the US corporate media often push the same false narratives but for different purposes. The Republicans pushed “radical Islamic terrorism” because they hate and fear “foreign” people especially if they are “non Christian”. And because the Democrats are “soft on terror” and “want Sharia law”.\nThe Democrats pushed for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, and yes unquestioningly allowed Obama’s and then trump’s drone attacks, because “they attacked us on 9/11” and “they are the bad terrorists we must fight over there so they can’t blow us up here” as the pretext (which was also Bush Junior’s line of reasoning), but more truly because the military industrial complex needs liberals to keep paying them hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars every year. \nRepublicans basically hate and fear all Muslims (remember they cheered trump’s Muslim ban), while liberals are only afraid of the “extremist” Muslims that CNN and the NYT tell them to fear. But in both cases, most Americans lost their taste for endless war in the Middle East. It’s much easier to sell them on a new endless war in the Ukraine. Especially since Putin clearly also is a power hungry dictator who made the calculation that he could more easily maintain power as a “war president”, much as the calculation Cheney/Bush made when they decided to invade Iraq (remember George Tenet said it was going to be a “slam dunk” and then we were stuck there for a decade — but the people still re-elected the dumbest and most incompetent president we ever had up to that point). \nBoth political parties are the two wings of the capitalist corporatist militarist party that runs the United States. The American people (all of them regardless of affiliation, religious belief, and education level) are the most heavily propagandized people in the history of the world. The American people could have voted for someone who voted against the Iraq war and who has vocally been against arming the Saudi’s in their Yemen war (Bernie Sanders) in 2016 and then again in 2020 but they voted for the War Mongers of both parties, both times. The vast majority of all Americans would rather spend their hard earned money on keeping their military bloated, rather than giving themselves universal single-payer healthcare or a guaranteed livable wage.",
">\n\nEvery single media outlet pushed war. candi rice and Hilary Clinton were literally just on a podcast still talking about WMD. Every news outlet lied. Every politician lied. The republicans just wore it on their sleeve more and the dems were dropping bombs with HOPE on them.\nEdit: the DNC trashed Bernie’s campaign both times and he rolled over. There is no hope for an anti war party in America. Is there any legitimate pushback with Ukraine ? If you criticize the escalation you get attacked. Was the same thing after 9/11.",
">\n\nThe right wing wants everyone to fear transgender people now. They are the new \"other\" to hate."
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Couple of reasons.
For starters, a lot of the big catalysts for "Islamic terrorism" are....busy.
ISIS' main branch is pretty focused on conflict within Afghanistan against the Taliban and as such hasn't had a plethora of Western targets to strike at. Other ISIS franchises have been acting more locally in their country of origin.
A lot of other networks have been pretty badly crippled by ongoing counter-terrorism efforts and have scaled back or shifted operations. As much of a pig's breakfast as the US has made of terrorism screening and control efforts at the domestic level, we've had a number of years to refine things and get it right enough that we can catch most of the problems headed our way. At least the problems with the backing of actual organizations/networks.
Similarly, the US is out(ish) of Afghanistan and Iraq which means we're just not there to be the target of attacks or enflame sentiment towards us that makes us the target of attacks. We're just less exposed than we used to be.
The conflict media cycle has also been living and breathing Ukraine for a year now which has taken a lot of wind out of the attention sails for Islamic fundamentalist terrorism. | [
"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
">\n\nI would classify it as intra-islamic terrorism.",
">\n\nI’m really not looking forward to having to deal with “Post-Modern Islamic Terrorism.”",
">\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\nThe biggest potential threat for Islamist (not Islamic, there's a difference) terrorism in the west post-9/11 was almost always \"lone wolf\" attacks against soft targets.\nWell, the decisive action against ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, and similar organizations both crippled their ability to fund such operations, diminished their reach via social media, and severely crippled their leadership structures. After all, nobody wants to take an afternoon drive and get hit with a slap chop missile that doesn't leave enough left to fill a doggy bag.",
">\n\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\n\nI'd edit that to the US, not the west. Europe has issues still, though they are less than years past as we have mostly destroyed the large organizations.",
">\n\nISIS is now only a shell of what it was before. After government forces recaptured Mosul, that was pretty much its last stand. It became relegated to being tiny and extremely demoralized fighting cells in the desert. Less war like conditions now and therefore less people being displaced. Many of the people who went there to fight with ISIS have become disillusioned after seeing ISIS for what it was. They are either being prosecuted in their home countries or rendered stateless after leaders of various countries have revoked their citizenships. \nToday, Iraq has entered a period of relative stability after ISIS had been significantly weakened and US forces being ejected by the Iraqi government. Syrians are still leaving Assad's regime, albeit at smaller numbers than before. Boko Haram's leader has been killed and its camps have been destroyed.\nA huge but here... Al-Shabaab is still a major concern but more as a domestic concern. Every year, there are several attacks in Mogadishu and other cities throughout Somalia.",
">\n\nI would add that a group of militants attacks Southern Tanzania and northern Mozambique.",
">\n\nI'm actually not sure they are gone but they're definitely in retreat. USA and friends capped a lot of their leadership. They're either in retreat and rebuilding, or just done. I can't answer for Europe but I can also say that the focus in the USA is shifting to domestic terror.\nSorry if my response is too brief. I don't believe the answers are that complex. Religious government is on the rise, authoritarianism also, so they're busy at home. Oppressing the women.",
">\n\nI believe this is what it is too. Focus has shifted.",
">\n\nBecause ISIS was destroyed. Tens of thousands of its fighters were annihilated. And more importantly, Saudi Arabia and the gulf states which exported fundamentalist Islamism are moderating a bit. \nIt’s still a major problem though, just not in the West. The Sahel for instance is constantly ravaged by Islamist violence and there was just recently a massive terror attack in Pakistan.",
">\n\nProbably mainly because there haven't been any major Islamist terror attacks lately, while our attention has been drawn away by all the other scary stuff happening. Also Al Qaeda and ISIS are only a shadow of their former selves by now.",
">\n\nHere in France, there's still several \"Islamic terrorism-adjacent\" murders each year - ie. acts carried out by mentally deranged people that have latched onto Islamism as a motivating idealogy - there was a mass stabbing in Gare du Nord about two weeks ago.",
">\n\nThat’s scary, and I don’t think we even heard about it over here",
">\n\nA) All the leaders are dead. \nB) They’ve probably seen all the chaos in the West over the past decade and realize attacking is a waste of time.",
">\n\nBecause there's a war on Christmas, CRT, the border, and litter boxes in schools happening instead. It will come around again. Our tiny brains can only deal with 3 or 4 drumbeats at a time.",
">\n\nThe GOP can't really harp on Islamic terrorism while American rightwing terrorists are on the uptick.",
">\n\nI think COVID is the thing you're missing. It kinda distracted everyone for a while, and it killed a lot more people than terrorists ever did. Terrorism was always a massively-overinflated threat for the US and Europe, so it was easy to ignore it when an actual threat came along.",
">\n\nNow it’s Christian nationalism that’s our biggest national threat. Go figure",
">\n\nEh, Christian extremists haven't flown two planes into skyscrapers or shot up an LGBT nightclub or bombed a stadium full of kids or beheaded a teacher because he dared to draw Jesus. I'd say we're a ways away from Christian nationalism being a threat.",
">\n\nNo. They bomb abortion clinics and attack liberals and democrats. They launch insurrections when their candidate loses. Christian extremists call for a real-life version of Gilead here in America. They are a much bigger threat than Islamic radicals because they're homegrown terrorists.",
">\n\nAnd my point is that a possible threat is far better than two planes crashing into the Twin Towers, which was an actual threat.",
">\n\nBut it’s not a threat now. It’s an event that happened two decades ago. To the point of the OP, this type of extremism is no longer viewed as a threat in America. Recent history suggests that terrorism in the US will much more likely be committed by right wing Americans instead. We shouldn’t need another OKC bombing scale attack to acknowledge that.",
">\n\nOnly if you bought into the media hype, especially Republican media that needs to instill fear and dread of the \"other\". I actually had a neighbor who was certain Obama would usher in an era of Sharia law in the US during that time period.\nI tried explaining that ISIS and other such extremist Islamic worldviews were medieval in nature, and incapable of successfully propagating (much) in the modern world. They would eventually just burn out on their own. Worldviews can get outcompeted by more successful ones, just like species can. The vast majority of modern people simply do not want to be beheaded (or ruled) by extremists of any religion or ideology. But too many people unquestionably absorb the narratives they hear on tv.\nAnd of course the US needs an enemy du jour to justify its $1T/year war budget. So the American people will always be heavily propagandized by the state (corporate) media to fear the designated \"terrorist\" group, so they don't ever ask if all that money might otherwise be spent on healthcare, a living wage, or some other unicorn and puppies fantasy like that.",
">\n\nI know your ass isn’t blaming the “republican media” when Obama literally drone strikes so many people we ran out of bombs",
">\n\nI’m sorry if I didn’t structure my essay as clearly as I intended. \nBoth sides of the US corporate media often push the same false narratives but for different purposes. The Republicans pushed “radical Islamic terrorism” because they hate and fear “foreign” people especially if they are “non Christian”. And because the Democrats are “soft on terror” and “want Sharia law”.\nThe Democrats pushed for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, and yes unquestioningly allowed Obama’s and then trump’s drone attacks, because “they attacked us on 9/11” and “they are the bad terrorists we must fight over there so they can’t blow us up here” as the pretext (which was also Bush Junior’s line of reasoning), but more truly because the military industrial complex needs liberals to keep paying them hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars every year. \nRepublicans basically hate and fear all Muslims (remember they cheered trump’s Muslim ban), while liberals are only afraid of the “extremist” Muslims that CNN and the NYT tell them to fear. But in both cases, most Americans lost their taste for endless war in the Middle East. It’s much easier to sell them on a new endless war in the Ukraine. Especially since Putin clearly also is a power hungry dictator who made the calculation that he could more easily maintain power as a “war president”, much as the calculation Cheney/Bush made when they decided to invade Iraq (remember George Tenet said it was going to be a “slam dunk” and then we were stuck there for a decade — but the people still re-elected the dumbest and most incompetent president we ever had up to that point). \nBoth political parties are the two wings of the capitalist corporatist militarist party that runs the United States. The American people (all of them regardless of affiliation, religious belief, and education level) are the most heavily propagandized people in the history of the world. The American people could have voted for someone who voted against the Iraq war and who has vocally been against arming the Saudi’s in their Yemen war (Bernie Sanders) in 2016 and then again in 2020 but they voted for the War Mongers of both parties, both times. The vast majority of all Americans would rather spend their hard earned money on keeping their military bloated, rather than giving themselves universal single-payer healthcare or a guaranteed livable wage.",
">\n\nEvery single media outlet pushed war. candi rice and Hilary Clinton were literally just on a podcast still talking about WMD. Every news outlet lied. Every politician lied. The republicans just wore it on their sleeve more and the dems were dropping bombs with HOPE on them.\nEdit: the DNC trashed Bernie’s campaign both times and he rolled over. There is no hope for an anti war party in America. Is there any legitimate pushback with Ukraine ? If you criticize the escalation you get attacked. Was the same thing after 9/11.",
">\n\nThe right wing wants everyone to fear transgender people now. They are the new \"other\" to hate.",
">\n\nMaGA Republicans and cancel culture crazies are probably the new terrorists while Islamists are sitting quietly in the back of the bus planning the next 9-11"
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It only seems that way if you are an American. If you are a European especially a French, however, jihadism and Islamism are constant threats that need to be destroyed. After the beheading of French schoolteacher Samuel Paty in October 2020, the "centrist" French president Emmanuel Macron and his government finally had enough and have unleashed a huge campaign against the enemies they refer to as Islamo-leftism and Islamist separatism.
Of course, the liberal media in the United States and the UK hate what the French have been doing. The New York Times even published this opinion article victim blaming the French.
Color-blind France will not tolerate any challenge to its secular and democratic Republican values including Muslim children. All French Muslims must uphold those values including the ban on hijabs.
Overall, this is how the French view the paradox of tolerance and freedom of expression.
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"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
">\n\nI would classify it as intra-islamic terrorism.",
">\n\nI’m really not looking forward to having to deal with “Post-Modern Islamic Terrorism.”",
">\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\nThe biggest potential threat for Islamist (not Islamic, there's a difference) terrorism in the west post-9/11 was almost always \"lone wolf\" attacks against soft targets.\nWell, the decisive action against ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, and similar organizations both crippled their ability to fund such operations, diminished their reach via social media, and severely crippled their leadership structures. After all, nobody wants to take an afternoon drive and get hit with a slap chop missile that doesn't leave enough left to fill a doggy bag.",
">\n\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\n\nI'd edit that to the US, not the west. Europe has issues still, though they are less than years past as we have mostly destroyed the large organizations.",
">\n\nISIS is now only a shell of what it was before. After government forces recaptured Mosul, that was pretty much its last stand. It became relegated to being tiny and extremely demoralized fighting cells in the desert. Less war like conditions now and therefore less people being displaced. Many of the people who went there to fight with ISIS have become disillusioned after seeing ISIS for what it was. They are either being prosecuted in their home countries or rendered stateless after leaders of various countries have revoked their citizenships. \nToday, Iraq has entered a period of relative stability after ISIS had been significantly weakened and US forces being ejected by the Iraqi government. Syrians are still leaving Assad's regime, albeit at smaller numbers than before. Boko Haram's leader has been killed and its camps have been destroyed.\nA huge but here... Al-Shabaab is still a major concern but more as a domestic concern. Every year, there are several attacks in Mogadishu and other cities throughout Somalia.",
">\n\nI would add that a group of militants attacks Southern Tanzania and northern Mozambique.",
">\n\nI'm actually not sure they are gone but they're definitely in retreat. USA and friends capped a lot of their leadership. They're either in retreat and rebuilding, or just done. I can't answer for Europe but I can also say that the focus in the USA is shifting to domestic terror.\nSorry if my response is too brief. I don't believe the answers are that complex. Religious government is on the rise, authoritarianism also, so they're busy at home. Oppressing the women.",
">\n\nI believe this is what it is too. Focus has shifted.",
">\n\nBecause ISIS was destroyed. Tens of thousands of its fighters were annihilated. And more importantly, Saudi Arabia and the gulf states which exported fundamentalist Islamism are moderating a bit. \nIt’s still a major problem though, just not in the West. The Sahel for instance is constantly ravaged by Islamist violence and there was just recently a massive terror attack in Pakistan.",
">\n\nProbably mainly because there haven't been any major Islamist terror attacks lately, while our attention has been drawn away by all the other scary stuff happening. Also Al Qaeda and ISIS are only a shadow of their former selves by now.",
">\n\nHere in France, there's still several \"Islamic terrorism-adjacent\" murders each year - ie. acts carried out by mentally deranged people that have latched onto Islamism as a motivating idealogy - there was a mass stabbing in Gare du Nord about two weeks ago.",
">\n\nThat’s scary, and I don’t think we even heard about it over here",
">\n\nA) All the leaders are dead. \nB) They’ve probably seen all the chaos in the West over the past decade and realize attacking is a waste of time.",
">\n\nBecause there's a war on Christmas, CRT, the border, and litter boxes in schools happening instead. It will come around again. Our tiny brains can only deal with 3 or 4 drumbeats at a time.",
">\n\nThe GOP can't really harp on Islamic terrorism while American rightwing terrorists are on the uptick.",
">\n\nI think COVID is the thing you're missing. It kinda distracted everyone for a while, and it killed a lot more people than terrorists ever did. Terrorism was always a massively-overinflated threat for the US and Europe, so it was easy to ignore it when an actual threat came along.",
">\n\nNow it’s Christian nationalism that’s our biggest national threat. Go figure",
">\n\nEh, Christian extremists haven't flown two planes into skyscrapers or shot up an LGBT nightclub or bombed a stadium full of kids or beheaded a teacher because he dared to draw Jesus. I'd say we're a ways away from Christian nationalism being a threat.",
">\n\nNo. They bomb abortion clinics and attack liberals and democrats. They launch insurrections when their candidate loses. Christian extremists call for a real-life version of Gilead here in America. They are a much bigger threat than Islamic radicals because they're homegrown terrorists.",
">\n\nAnd my point is that a possible threat is far better than two planes crashing into the Twin Towers, which was an actual threat.",
">\n\nBut it’s not a threat now. It’s an event that happened two decades ago. To the point of the OP, this type of extremism is no longer viewed as a threat in America. Recent history suggests that terrorism in the US will much more likely be committed by right wing Americans instead. We shouldn’t need another OKC bombing scale attack to acknowledge that.",
">\n\nOnly if you bought into the media hype, especially Republican media that needs to instill fear and dread of the \"other\". I actually had a neighbor who was certain Obama would usher in an era of Sharia law in the US during that time period.\nI tried explaining that ISIS and other such extremist Islamic worldviews were medieval in nature, and incapable of successfully propagating (much) in the modern world. They would eventually just burn out on their own. Worldviews can get outcompeted by more successful ones, just like species can. The vast majority of modern people simply do not want to be beheaded (or ruled) by extremists of any religion or ideology. But too many people unquestionably absorb the narratives they hear on tv.\nAnd of course the US needs an enemy du jour to justify its $1T/year war budget. So the American people will always be heavily propagandized by the state (corporate) media to fear the designated \"terrorist\" group, so they don't ever ask if all that money might otherwise be spent on healthcare, a living wage, or some other unicorn and puppies fantasy like that.",
">\n\nI know your ass isn’t blaming the “republican media” when Obama literally drone strikes so many people we ran out of bombs",
">\n\nI’m sorry if I didn’t structure my essay as clearly as I intended. \nBoth sides of the US corporate media often push the same false narratives but for different purposes. The Republicans pushed “radical Islamic terrorism” because they hate and fear “foreign” people especially if they are “non Christian”. And because the Democrats are “soft on terror” and “want Sharia law”.\nThe Democrats pushed for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, and yes unquestioningly allowed Obama’s and then trump’s drone attacks, because “they attacked us on 9/11” and “they are the bad terrorists we must fight over there so they can’t blow us up here” as the pretext (which was also Bush Junior’s line of reasoning), but more truly because the military industrial complex needs liberals to keep paying them hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars every year. \nRepublicans basically hate and fear all Muslims (remember they cheered trump’s Muslim ban), while liberals are only afraid of the “extremist” Muslims that CNN and the NYT tell them to fear. But in both cases, most Americans lost their taste for endless war in the Middle East. It’s much easier to sell them on a new endless war in the Ukraine. Especially since Putin clearly also is a power hungry dictator who made the calculation that he could more easily maintain power as a “war president”, much as the calculation Cheney/Bush made when they decided to invade Iraq (remember George Tenet said it was going to be a “slam dunk” and then we were stuck there for a decade — but the people still re-elected the dumbest and most incompetent president we ever had up to that point). \nBoth political parties are the two wings of the capitalist corporatist militarist party that runs the United States. The American people (all of them regardless of affiliation, religious belief, and education level) are the most heavily propagandized people in the history of the world. The American people could have voted for someone who voted against the Iraq war and who has vocally been against arming the Saudi’s in their Yemen war (Bernie Sanders) in 2016 and then again in 2020 but they voted for the War Mongers of both parties, both times. The vast majority of all Americans would rather spend their hard earned money on keeping their military bloated, rather than giving themselves universal single-payer healthcare or a guaranteed livable wage.",
">\n\nEvery single media outlet pushed war. candi rice and Hilary Clinton were literally just on a podcast still talking about WMD. Every news outlet lied. Every politician lied. The republicans just wore it on their sleeve more and the dems were dropping bombs with HOPE on them.\nEdit: the DNC trashed Bernie’s campaign both times and he rolled over. There is no hope for an anti war party in America. Is there any legitimate pushback with Ukraine ? If you criticize the escalation you get attacked. Was the same thing after 9/11.",
">\n\nThe right wing wants everyone to fear transgender people now. They are the new \"other\" to hate.",
">\n\nMaGA Republicans and cancel culture crazies are probably the new terrorists while Islamists are sitting quietly in the back of the bus planning the next 9-11",
">\n\nCouple of reasons.\nFor starters, a lot of the big catalysts for \"Islamic terrorism\" are....busy.\nISIS' main branch is pretty focused on conflict within Afghanistan against the Taliban and as such hasn't had a plethora of Western targets to strike at. Other ISIS franchises have been acting more locally in their country of origin.\nA lot of other networks have been pretty badly crippled by ongoing counter-terrorism efforts and have scaled back or shifted operations. As much of a pig's breakfast as the US has made of terrorism screening and control efforts at the domestic level, we've had a number of years to refine things and get it right enough that we can catch most of the problems headed our way. At least the problems with the backing of actual organizations/networks.\nSimilarly, the US is out(ish) of Afghanistan and Iraq which means we're just not there to be the target of attacks or enflame sentiment towards us that makes us the target of attacks. We're just less exposed than we used to be.\nThe conflict media cycle has also been living and breathing Ukraine for a year now which has taken a lot of wind out of the attention sails for Islamic fundamentalist terrorism."
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That’s not Islamic terrorism that a coordinated attack by a subjugated and oppressed population in Israel. | [
"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
">\n\nI would classify it as intra-islamic terrorism.",
">\n\nI’m really not looking forward to having to deal with “Post-Modern Islamic Terrorism.”",
">\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\nThe biggest potential threat for Islamist (not Islamic, there's a difference) terrorism in the west post-9/11 was almost always \"lone wolf\" attacks against soft targets.\nWell, the decisive action against ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, and similar organizations both crippled their ability to fund such operations, diminished their reach via social media, and severely crippled their leadership structures. After all, nobody wants to take an afternoon drive and get hit with a slap chop missile that doesn't leave enough left to fill a doggy bag.",
">\n\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\n\nI'd edit that to the US, not the west. Europe has issues still, though they are less than years past as we have mostly destroyed the large organizations.",
">\n\nISIS is now only a shell of what it was before. After government forces recaptured Mosul, that was pretty much its last stand. It became relegated to being tiny and extremely demoralized fighting cells in the desert. Less war like conditions now and therefore less people being displaced. Many of the people who went there to fight with ISIS have become disillusioned after seeing ISIS for what it was. They are either being prosecuted in their home countries or rendered stateless after leaders of various countries have revoked their citizenships. \nToday, Iraq has entered a period of relative stability after ISIS had been significantly weakened and US forces being ejected by the Iraqi government. Syrians are still leaving Assad's regime, albeit at smaller numbers than before. Boko Haram's leader has been killed and its camps have been destroyed.\nA huge but here... Al-Shabaab is still a major concern but more as a domestic concern. Every year, there are several attacks in Mogadishu and other cities throughout Somalia.",
">\n\nI would add that a group of militants attacks Southern Tanzania and northern Mozambique.",
">\n\nI'm actually not sure they are gone but they're definitely in retreat. USA and friends capped a lot of their leadership. They're either in retreat and rebuilding, or just done. I can't answer for Europe but I can also say that the focus in the USA is shifting to domestic terror.\nSorry if my response is too brief. I don't believe the answers are that complex. Religious government is on the rise, authoritarianism also, so they're busy at home. Oppressing the women.",
">\n\nI believe this is what it is too. Focus has shifted.",
">\n\nBecause ISIS was destroyed. Tens of thousands of its fighters were annihilated. And more importantly, Saudi Arabia and the gulf states which exported fundamentalist Islamism are moderating a bit. \nIt’s still a major problem though, just not in the West. The Sahel for instance is constantly ravaged by Islamist violence and there was just recently a massive terror attack in Pakistan.",
">\n\nProbably mainly because there haven't been any major Islamist terror attacks lately, while our attention has been drawn away by all the other scary stuff happening. Also Al Qaeda and ISIS are only a shadow of their former selves by now.",
">\n\nHere in France, there's still several \"Islamic terrorism-adjacent\" murders each year - ie. acts carried out by mentally deranged people that have latched onto Islamism as a motivating idealogy - there was a mass stabbing in Gare du Nord about two weeks ago.",
">\n\nThat’s scary, and I don’t think we even heard about it over here",
">\n\nA) All the leaders are dead. \nB) They’ve probably seen all the chaos in the West over the past decade and realize attacking is a waste of time.",
">\n\nBecause there's a war on Christmas, CRT, the border, and litter boxes in schools happening instead. It will come around again. Our tiny brains can only deal with 3 or 4 drumbeats at a time.",
">\n\nThe GOP can't really harp on Islamic terrorism while American rightwing terrorists are on the uptick.",
">\n\nI think COVID is the thing you're missing. It kinda distracted everyone for a while, and it killed a lot more people than terrorists ever did. Terrorism was always a massively-overinflated threat for the US and Europe, so it was easy to ignore it when an actual threat came along.",
">\n\nNow it’s Christian nationalism that’s our biggest national threat. Go figure",
">\n\nEh, Christian extremists haven't flown two planes into skyscrapers or shot up an LGBT nightclub or bombed a stadium full of kids or beheaded a teacher because he dared to draw Jesus. I'd say we're a ways away from Christian nationalism being a threat.",
">\n\nNo. They bomb abortion clinics and attack liberals and democrats. They launch insurrections when their candidate loses. Christian extremists call for a real-life version of Gilead here in America. They are a much bigger threat than Islamic radicals because they're homegrown terrorists.",
">\n\nAnd my point is that a possible threat is far better than two planes crashing into the Twin Towers, which was an actual threat.",
">\n\nBut it’s not a threat now. It’s an event that happened two decades ago. To the point of the OP, this type of extremism is no longer viewed as a threat in America. Recent history suggests that terrorism in the US will much more likely be committed by right wing Americans instead. We shouldn’t need another OKC bombing scale attack to acknowledge that.",
">\n\nOnly if you bought into the media hype, especially Republican media that needs to instill fear and dread of the \"other\". I actually had a neighbor who was certain Obama would usher in an era of Sharia law in the US during that time period.\nI tried explaining that ISIS and other such extremist Islamic worldviews were medieval in nature, and incapable of successfully propagating (much) in the modern world. They would eventually just burn out on their own. Worldviews can get outcompeted by more successful ones, just like species can. The vast majority of modern people simply do not want to be beheaded (or ruled) by extremists of any religion or ideology. But too many people unquestionably absorb the narratives they hear on tv.\nAnd of course the US needs an enemy du jour to justify its $1T/year war budget. So the American people will always be heavily propagandized by the state (corporate) media to fear the designated \"terrorist\" group, so they don't ever ask if all that money might otherwise be spent on healthcare, a living wage, or some other unicorn and puppies fantasy like that.",
">\n\nI know your ass isn’t blaming the “republican media” when Obama literally drone strikes so many people we ran out of bombs",
">\n\nI’m sorry if I didn’t structure my essay as clearly as I intended. \nBoth sides of the US corporate media often push the same false narratives but for different purposes. The Republicans pushed “radical Islamic terrorism” because they hate and fear “foreign” people especially if they are “non Christian”. And because the Democrats are “soft on terror” and “want Sharia law”.\nThe Democrats pushed for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, and yes unquestioningly allowed Obama’s and then trump’s drone attacks, because “they attacked us on 9/11” and “they are the bad terrorists we must fight over there so they can’t blow us up here” as the pretext (which was also Bush Junior’s line of reasoning), but more truly because the military industrial complex needs liberals to keep paying them hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars every year. \nRepublicans basically hate and fear all Muslims (remember they cheered trump’s Muslim ban), while liberals are only afraid of the “extremist” Muslims that CNN and the NYT tell them to fear. But in both cases, most Americans lost their taste for endless war in the Middle East. It’s much easier to sell them on a new endless war in the Ukraine. Especially since Putin clearly also is a power hungry dictator who made the calculation that he could more easily maintain power as a “war president”, much as the calculation Cheney/Bush made when they decided to invade Iraq (remember George Tenet said it was going to be a “slam dunk” and then we were stuck there for a decade — but the people still re-elected the dumbest and most incompetent president we ever had up to that point). \nBoth political parties are the two wings of the capitalist corporatist militarist party that runs the United States. The American people (all of them regardless of affiliation, religious belief, and education level) are the most heavily propagandized people in the history of the world. The American people could have voted for someone who voted against the Iraq war and who has vocally been against arming the Saudi’s in their Yemen war (Bernie Sanders) in 2016 and then again in 2020 but they voted for the War Mongers of both parties, both times. The vast majority of all Americans would rather spend their hard earned money on keeping their military bloated, rather than giving themselves universal single-payer healthcare or a guaranteed livable wage.",
">\n\nEvery single media outlet pushed war. candi rice and Hilary Clinton were literally just on a podcast still talking about WMD. Every news outlet lied. Every politician lied. The republicans just wore it on their sleeve more and the dems were dropping bombs with HOPE on them.\nEdit: the DNC trashed Bernie’s campaign both times and he rolled over. There is no hope for an anti war party in America. Is there any legitimate pushback with Ukraine ? If you criticize the escalation you get attacked. Was the same thing after 9/11.",
">\n\nThe right wing wants everyone to fear transgender people now. They are the new \"other\" to hate.",
">\n\nMaGA Republicans and cancel culture crazies are probably the new terrorists while Islamists are sitting quietly in the back of the bus planning the next 9-11",
">\n\nCouple of reasons.\nFor starters, a lot of the big catalysts for \"Islamic terrorism\" are....busy.\nISIS' main branch is pretty focused on conflict within Afghanistan against the Taliban and as such hasn't had a plethora of Western targets to strike at. Other ISIS franchises have been acting more locally in their country of origin.\nA lot of other networks have been pretty badly crippled by ongoing counter-terrorism efforts and have scaled back or shifted operations. As much of a pig's breakfast as the US has made of terrorism screening and control efforts at the domestic level, we've had a number of years to refine things and get it right enough that we can catch most of the problems headed our way. At least the problems with the backing of actual organizations/networks.\nSimilarly, the US is out(ish) of Afghanistan and Iraq which means we're just not there to be the target of attacks or enflame sentiment towards us that makes us the target of attacks. We're just less exposed than we used to be.\nThe conflict media cycle has also been living and breathing Ukraine for a year now which has taken a lot of wind out of the attention sails for Islamic fundamentalist terrorism.",
">\n\nIt only seems that way if you are an American. If you are a European especially a French, however, jihadism and Islamism are constant threats that need to be destroyed. After the beheading of French schoolteacher Samuel Paty in October 2020, the \"centrist\" French president Emmanuel Macron and his government finally had enough and have unleashed a huge campaign against the enemies they refer to as Islamo-leftism and Islamist separatism.\nOf course, the liberal media in the United States and the UK hate what the French have been doing. The New York Times even published this opinion article victim blaming the French.\nColor-blind France will not tolerate any challenge to its secular and democratic Republican values including Muslim children. All French Muslims must uphold those values including the ban on hijabs.\nOverall, this is how the French view the paradox of tolerance and freedom of expression.\nEdit: Formatting"
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Terrorism: "the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims."
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"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
">\n\nI would classify it as intra-islamic terrorism.",
">\n\nI’m really not looking forward to having to deal with “Post-Modern Islamic Terrorism.”",
">\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\nThe biggest potential threat for Islamist (not Islamic, there's a difference) terrorism in the west post-9/11 was almost always \"lone wolf\" attacks against soft targets.\nWell, the decisive action against ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, and similar organizations both crippled their ability to fund such operations, diminished their reach via social media, and severely crippled their leadership structures. After all, nobody wants to take an afternoon drive and get hit with a slap chop missile that doesn't leave enough left to fill a doggy bag.",
">\n\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\n\nI'd edit that to the US, not the west. Europe has issues still, though they are less than years past as we have mostly destroyed the large organizations.",
">\n\nISIS is now only a shell of what it was before. After government forces recaptured Mosul, that was pretty much its last stand. It became relegated to being tiny and extremely demoralized fighting cells in the desert. Less war like conditions now and therefore less people being displaced. Many of the people who went there to fight with ISIS have become disillusioned after seeing ISIS for what it was. They are either being prosecuted in their home countries or rendered stateless after leaders of various countries have revoked their citizenships. \nToday, Iraq has entered a period of relative stability after ISIS had been significantly weakened and US forces being ejected by the Iraqi government. Syrians are still leaving Assad's regime, albeit at smaller numbers than before. Boko Haram's leader has been killed and its camps have been destroyed.\nA huge but here... Al-Shabaab is still a major concern but more as a domestic concern. Every year, there are several attacks in Mogadishu and other cities throughout Somalia.",
">\n\nI would add that a group of militants attacks Southern Tanzania and northern Mozambique.",
">\n\nI'm actually not sure they are gone but they're definitely in retreat. USA and friends capped a lot of their leadership. They're either in retreat and rebuilding, or just done. I can't answer for Europe but I can also say that the focus in the USA is shifting to domestic terror.\nSorry if my response is too brief. I don't believe the answers are that complex. Religious government is on the rise, authoritarianism also, so they're busy at home. Oppressing the women.",
">\n\nI believe this is what it is too. Focus has shifted.",
">\n\nBecause ISIS was destroyed. Tens of thousands of its fighters were annihilated. And more importantly, Saudi Arabia and the gulf states which exported fundamentalist Islamism are moderating a bit. \nIt’s still a major problem though, just not in the West. The Sahel for instance is constantly ravaged by Islamist violence and there was just recently a massive terror attack in Pakistan.",
">\n\nProbably mainly because there haven't been any major Islamist terror attacks lately, while our attention has been drawn away by all the other scary stuff happening. Also Al Qaeda and ISIS are only a shadow of their former selves by now.",
">\n\nHere in France, there's still several \"Islamic terrorism-adjacent\" murders each year - ie. acts carried out by mentally deranged people that have latched onto Islamism as a motivating idealogy - there was a mass stabbing in Gare du Nord about two weeks ago.",
">\n\nThat’s scary, and I don’t think we even heard about it over here",
">\n\nA) All the leaders are dead. \nB) They’ve probably seen all the chaos in the West over the past decade and realize attacking is a waste of time.",
">\n\nBecause there's a war on Christmas, CRT, the border, and litter boxes in schools happening instead. It will come around again. Our tiny brains can only deal with 3 or 4 drumbeats at a time.",
">\n\nThe GOP can't really harp on Islamic terrorism while American rightwing terrorists are on the uptick.",
">\n\nI think COVID is the thing you're missing. It kinda distracted everyone for a while, and it killed a lot more people than terrorists ever did. Terrorism was always a massively-overinflated threat for the US and Europe, so it was easy to ignore it when an actual threat came along.",
">\n\nNow it’s Christian nationalism that’s our biggest national threat. Go figure",
">\n\nEh, Christian extremists haven't flown two planes into skyscrapers or shot up an LGBT nightclub or bombed a stadium full of kids or beheaded a teacher because he dared to draw Jesus. I'd say we're a ways away from Christian nationalism being a threat.",
">\n\nNo. They bomb abortion clinics and attack liberals and democrats. They launch insurrections when their candidate loses. Christian extremists call for a real-life version of Gilead here in America. They are a much bigger threat than Islamic radicals because they're homegrown terrorists.",
">\n\nAnd my point is that a possible threat is far better than two planes crashing into the Twin Towers, which was an actual threat.",
">\n\nBut it’s not a threat now. It’s an event that happened two decades ago. To the point of the OP, this type of extremism is no longer viewed as a threat in America. Recent history suggests that terrorism in the US will much more likely be committed by right wing Americans instead. We shouldn’t need another OKC bombing scale attack to acknowledge that.",
">\n\nOnly if you bought into the media hype, especially Republican media that needs to instill fear and dread of the \"other\". I actually had a neighbor who was certain Obama would usher in an era of Sharia law in the US during that time period.\nI tried explaining that ISIS and other such extremist Islamic worldviews were medieval in nature, and incapable of successfully propagating (much) in the modern world. They would eventually just burn out on their own. Worldviews can get outcompeted by more successful ones, just like species can. The vast majority of modern people simply do not want to be beheaded (or ruled) by extremists of any religion or ideology. But too many people unquestionably absorb the narratives they hear on tv.\nAnd of course the US needs an enemy du jour to justify its $1T/year war budget. So the American people will always be heavily propagandized by the state (corporate) media to fear the designated \"terrorist\" group, so they don't ever ask if all that money might otherwise be spent on healthcare, a living wage, or some other unicorn and puppies fantasy like that.",
">\n\nI know your ass isn’t blaming the “republican media” when Obama literally drone strikes so many people we ran out of bombs",
">\n\nI’m sorry if I didn’t structure my essay as clearly as I intended. \nBoth sides of the US corporate media often push the same false narratives but for different purposes. The Republicans pushed “radical Islamic terrorism” because they hate and fear “foreign” people especially if they are “non Christian”. And because the Democrats are “soft on terror” and “want Sharia law”.\nThe Democrats pushed for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, and yes unquestioningly allowed Obama’s and then trump’s drone attacks, because “they attacked us on 9/11” and “they are the bad terrorists we must fight over there so they can’t blow us up here” as the pretext (which was also Bush Junior’s line of reasoning), but more truly because the military industrial complex needs liberals to keep paying them hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars every year. \nRepublicans basically hate and fear all Muslims (remember they cheered trump’s Muslim ban), while liberals are only afraid of the “extremist” Muslims that CNN and the NYT tell them to fear. But in both cases, most Americans lost their taste for endless war in the Middle East. It’s much easier to sell them on a new endless war in the Ukraine. Especially since Putin clearly also is a power hungry dictator who made the calculation that he could more easily maintain power as a “war president”, much as the calculation Cheney/Bush made when they decided to invade Iraq (remember George Tenet said it was going to be a “slam dunk” and then we were stuck there for a decade — but the people still re-elected the dumbest and most incompetent president we ever had up to that point). \nBoth political parties are the two wings of the capitalist corporatist militarist party that runs the United States. The American people (all of them regardless of affiliation, religious belief, and education level) are the most heavily propagandized people in the history of the world. The American people could have voted for someone who voted against the Iraq war and who has vocally been against arming the Saudi’s in their Yemen war (Bernie Sanders) in 2016 and then again in 2020 but they voted for the War Mongers of both parties, both times. The vast majority of all Americans would rather spend their hard earned money on keeping their military bloated, rather than giving themselves universal single-payer healthcare or a guaranteed livable wage.",
">\n\nEvery single media outlet pushed war. candi rice and Hilary Clinton were literally just on a podcast still talking about WMD. Every news outlet lied. Every politician lied. The republicans just wore it on their sleeve more and the dems were dropping bombs with HOPE on them.\nEdit: the DNC trashed Bernie’s campaign both times and he rolled over. There is no hope for an anti war party in America. Is there any legitimate pushback with Ukraine ? If you criticize the escalation you get attacked. Was the same thing after 9/11.",
">\n\nThe right wing wants everyone to fear transgender people now. They are the new \"other\" to hate.",
">\n\nMaGA Republicans and cancel culture crazies are probably the new terrorists while Islamists are sitting quietly in the back of the bus planning the next 9-11",
">\n\nCouple of reasons.\nFor starters, a lot of the big catalysts for \"Islamic terrorism\" are....busy.\nISIS' main branch is pretty focused on conflict within Afghanistan against the Taliban and as such hasn't had a plethora of Western targets to strike at. Other ISIS franchises have been acting more locally in their country of origin.\nA lot of other networks have been pretty badly crippled by ongoing counter-terrorism efforts and have scaled back or shifted operations. As much of a pig's breakfast as the US has made of terrorism screening and control efforts at the domestic level, we've had a number of years to refine things and get it right enough that we can catch most of the problems headed our way. At least the problems with the backing of actual organizations/networks.\nSimilarly, the US is out(ish) of Afghanistan and Iraq which means we're just not there to be the target of attacks or enflame sentiment towards us that makes us the target of attacks. We're just less exposed than we used to be.\nThe conflict media cycle has also been living and breathing Ukraine for a year now which has taken a lot of wind out of the attention sails for Islamic fundamentalist terrorism.",
">\n\nIt only seems that way if you are an American. If you are a European especially a French, however, jihadism and Islamism are constant threats that need to be destroyed. After the beheading of French schoolteacher Samuel Paty in October 2020, the \"centrist\" French president Emmanuel Macron and his government finally had enough and have unleashed a huge campaign against the enemies they refer to as Islamo-leftism and Islamist separatism.\nOf course, the liberal media in the United States and the UK hate what the French have been doing. The New York Times even published this opinion article victim blaming the French.\nColor-blind France will not tolerate any challenge to its secular and democratic Republican values including Muslim children. All French Muslims must uphold those values including the ban on hijabs.\nOverall, this is how the French view the paradox of tolerance and freedom of expression.\nEdit: Formatting",
">\n\nThat’s not Islamic terrorism that a coordinated attack by a subjugated and oppressed population in Israel."
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"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
">\n\nI would classify it as intra-islamic terrorism.",
">\n\nI’m really not looking forward to having to deal with “Post-Modern Islamic Terrorism.”",
">\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\nThe biggest potential threat for Islamist (not Islamic, there's a difference) terrorism in the west post-9/11 was almost always \"lone wolf\" attacks against soft targets.\nWell, the decisive action against ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, and similar organizations both crippled their ability to fund such operations, diminished their reach via social media, and severely crippled their leadership structures. After all, nobody wants to take an afternoon drive and get hit with a slap chop missile that doesn't leave enough left to fill a doggy bag.",
">\n\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\n\nI'd edit that to the US, not the west. Europe has issues still, though they are less than years past as we have mostly destroyed the large organizations.",
">\n\nISIS is now only a shell of what it was before. After government forces recaptured Mosul, that was pretty much its last stand. It became relegated to being tiny and extremely demoralized fighting cells in the desert. Less war like conditions now and therefore less people being displaced. Many of the people who went there to fight with ISIS have become disillusioned after seeing ISIS for what it was. They are either being prosecuted in their home countries or rendered stateless after leaders of various countries have revoked their citizenships. \nToday, Iraq has entered a period of relative stability after ISIS had been significantly weakened and US forces being ejected by the Iraqi government. Syrians are still leaving Assad's regime, albeit at smaller numbers than before. Boko Haram's leader has been killed and its camps have been destroyed.\nA huge but here... Al-Shabaab is still a major concern but more as a domestic concern. Every year, there are several attacks in Mogadishu and other cities throughout Somalia.",
">\n\nI would add that a group of militants attacks Southern Tanzania and northern Mozambique.",
">\n\nI'm actually not sure they are gone but they're definitely in retreat. USA and friends capped a lot of their leadership. They're either in retreat and rebuilding, or just done. I can't answer for Europe but I can also say that the focus in the USA is shifting to domestic terror.\nSorry if my response is too brief. I don't believe the answers are that complex. Religious government is on the rise, authoritarianism also, so they're busy at home. Oppressing the women.",
">\n\nI believe this is what it is too. Focus has shifted.",
">\n\nBecause ISIS was destroyed. Tens of thousands of its fighters were annihilated. And more importantly, Saudi Arabia and the gulf states which exported fundamentalist Islamism are moderating a bit. \nIt’s still a major problem though, just not in the West. The Sahel for instance is constantly ravaged by Islamist violence and there was just recently a massive terror attack in Pakistan.",
">\n\nProbably mainly because there haven't been any major Islamist terror attacks lately, while our attention has been drawn away by all the other scary stuff happening. Also Al Qaeda and ISIS are only a shadow of their former selves by now.",
">\n\nHere in France, there's still several \"Islamic terrorism-adjacent\" murders each year - ie. acts carried out by mentally deranged people that have latched onto Islamism as a motivating idealogy - there was a mass stabbing in Gare du Nord about two weeks ago.",
">\n\nThat’s scary, and I don’t think we even heard about it over here",
">\n\nA) All the leaders are dead. \nB) They’ve probably seen all the chaos in the West over the past decade and realize attacking is a waste of time.",
">\n\nBecause there's a war on Christmas, CRT, the border, and litter boxes in schools happening instead. It will come around again. Our tiny brains can only deal with 3 or 4 drumbeats at a time.",
">\n\nThe GOP can't really harp on Islamic terrorism while American rightwing terrorists are on the uptick.",
">\n\nI think COVID is the thing you're missing. It kinda distracted everyone for a while, and it killed a lot more people than terrorists ever did. Terrorism was always a massively-overinflated threat for the US and Europe, so it was easy to ignore it when an actual threat came along.",
">\n\nNow it’s Christian nationalism that’s our biggest national threat. Go figure",
">\n\nEh, Christian extremists haven't flown two planes into skyscrapers or shot up an LGBT nightclub or bombed a stadium full of kids or beheaded a teacher because he dared to draw Jesus. I'd say we're a ways away from Christian nationalism being a threat.",
">\n\nNo. They bomb abortion clinics and attack liberals and democrats. They launch insurrections when their candidate loses. Christian extremists call for a real-life version of Gilead here in America. They are a much bigger threat than Islamic radicals because they're homegrown terrorists.",
">\n\nAnd my point is that a possible threat is far better than two planes crashing into the Twin Towers, which was an actual threat.",
">\n\nBut it’s not a threat now. It’s an event that happened two decades ago. To the point of the OP, this type of extremism is no longer viewed as a threat in America. Recent history suggests that terrorism in the US will much more likely be committed by right wing Americans instead. We shouldn’t need another OKC bombing scale attack to acknowledge that.",
">\n\nOnly if you bought into the media hype, especially Republican media that needs to instill fear and dread of the \"other\". I actually had a neighbor who was certain Obama would usher in an era of Sharia law in the US during that time period.\nI tried explaining that ISIS and other such extremist Islamic worldviews were medieval in nature, and incapable of successfully propagating (much) in the modern world. They would eventually just burn out on their own. Worldviews can get outcompeted by more successful ones, just like species can. The vast majority of modern people simply do not want to be beheaded (or ruled) by extremists of any religion or ideology. But too many people unquestionably absorb the narratives they hear on tv.\nAnd of course the US needs an enemy du jour to justify its $1T/year war budget. So the American people will always be heavily propagandized by the state (corporate) media to fear the designated \"terrorist\" group, so they don't ever ask if all that money might otherwise be spent on healthcare, a living wage, or some other unicorn and puppies fantasy like that.",
">\n\nI know your ass isn’t blaming the “republican media” when Obama literally drone strikes so many people we ran out of bombs",
">\n\nI’m sorry if I didn’t structure my essay as clearly as I intended. \nBoth sides of the US corporate media often push the same false narratives but for different purposes. The Republicans pushed “radical Islamic terrorism” because they hate and fear “foreign” people especially if they are “non Christian”. And because the Democrats are “soft on terror” and “want Sharia law”.\nThe Democrats pushed for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, and yes unquestioningly allowed Obama’s and then trump’s drone attacks, because “they attacked us on 9/11” and “they are the bad terrorists we must fight over there so they can’t blow us up here” as the pretext (which was also Bush Junior’s line of reasoning), but more truly because the military industrial complex needs liberals to keep paying them hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars every year. \nRepublicans basically hate and fear all Muslims (remember they cheered trump’s Muslim ban), while liberals are only afraid of the “extremist” Muslims that CNN and the NYT tell them to fear. But in both cases, most Americans lost their taste for endless war in the Middle East. It’s much easier to sell them on a new endless war in the Ukraine. Especially since Putin clearly also is a power hungry dictator who made the calculation that he could more easily maintain power as a “war president”, much as the calculation Cheney/Bush made when they decided to invade Iraq (remember George Tenet said it was going to be a “slam dunk” and then we were stuck there for a decade — but the people still re-elected the dumbest and most incompetent president we ever had up to that point). \nBoth political parties are the two wings of the capitalist corporatist militarist party that runs the United States. The American people (all of them regardless of affiliation, religious belief, and education level) are the most heavily propagandized people in the history of the world. The American people could have voted for someone who voted against the Iraq war and who has vocally been against arming the Saudi’s in their Yemen war (Bernie Sanders) in 2016 and then again in 2020 but they voted for the War Mongers of both parties, both times. The vast majority of all Americans would rather spend their hard earned money on keeping their military bloated, rather than giving themselves universal single-payer healthcare or a guaranteed livable wage.",
">\n\nEvery single media outlet pushed war. candi rice and Hilary Clinton were literally just on a podcast still talking about WMD. Every news outlet lied. Every politician lied. The republicans just wore it on their sleeve more and the dems were dropping bombs with HOPE on them.\nEdit: the DNC trashed Bernie’s campaign both times and he rolled over. There is no hope for an anti war party in America. Is there any legitimate pushback with Ukraine ? If you criticize the escalation you get attacked. Was the same thing after 9/11.",
">\n\nThe right wing wants everyone to fear transgender people now. They are the new \"other\" to hate.",
">\n\nMaGA Republicans and cancel culture crazies are probably the new terrorists while Islamists are sitting quietly in the back of the bus planning the next 9-11",
">\n\nCouple of reasons.\nFor starters, a lot of the big catalysts for \"Islamic terrorism\" are....busy.\nISIS' main branch is pretty focused on conflict within Afghanistan against the Taliban and as such hasn't had a plethora of Western targets to strike at. Other ISIS franchises have been acting more locally in their country of origin.\nA lot of other networks have been pretty badly crippled by ongoing counter-terrorism efforts and have scaled back or shifted operations. As much of a pig's breakfast as the US has made of terrorism screening and control efforts at the domestic level, we've had a number of years to refine things and get it right enough that we can catch most of the problems headed our way. At least the problems with the backing of actual organizations/networks.\nSimilarly, the US is out(ish) of Afghanistan and Iraq which means we're just not there to be the target of attacks or enflame sentiment towards us that makes us the target of attacks. We're just less exposed than we used to be.\nThe conflict media cycle has also been living and breathing Ukraine for a year now which has taken a lot of wind out of the attention sails for Islamic fundamentalist terrorism.",
">\n\nIt only seems that way if you are an American. If you are a European especially a French, however, jihadism and Islamism are constant threats that need to be destroyed. After the beheading of French schoolteacher Samuel Paty in October 2020, the \"centrist\" French president Emmanuel Macron and his government finally had enough and have unleashed a huge campaign against the enemies they refer to as Islamo-leftism and Islamist separatism.\nOf course, the liberal media in the United States and the UK hate what the French have been doing. The New York Times even published this opinion article victim blaming the French.\nColor-blind France will not tolerate any challenge to its secular and democratic Republican values including Muslim children. All French Muslims must uphold those values including the ban on hijabs.\nOverall, this is how the French view the paradox of tolerance and freedom of expression.\nEdit: Formatting",
">\n\nThat’s not Islamic terrorism that a coordinated attack by a subjugated and oppressed population in Israel.",
">\n\nTerrorism: \"the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.\" \nYou don't get to change the definition of words."
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The closer the date is to 09/11/2001and greater the melanin content the skin of the POTUS the more it matters according to the US right wing. | [
"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
">\n\nI would classify it as intra-islamic terrorism.",
">\n\nI’m really not looking forward to having to deal with “Post-Modern Islamic Terrorism.”",
">\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\nThe biggest potential threat for Islamist (not Islamic, there's a difference) terrorism in the west post-9/11 was almost always \"lone wolf\" attacks against soft targets.\nWell, the decisive action against ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, and similar organizations both crippled their ability to fund such operations, diminished their reach via social media, and severely crippled their leadership structures. After all, nobody wants to take an afternoon drive and get hit with a slap chop missile that doesn't leave enough left to fill a doggy bag.",
">\n\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\n\nI'd edit that to the US, not the west. Europe has issues still, though they are less than years past as we have mostly destroyed the large organizations.",
">\n\nISIS is now only a shell of what it was before. After government forces recaptured Mosul, that was pretty much its last stand. It became relegated to being tiny and extremely demoralized fighting cells in the desert. Less war like conditions now and therefore less people being displaced. Many of the people who went there to fight with ISIS have become disillusioned after seeing ISIS for what it was. They are either being prosecuted in their home countries or rendered stateless after leaders of various countries have revoked their citizenships. \nToday, Iraq has entered a period of relative stability after ISIS had been significantly weakened and US forces being ejected by the Iraqi government. Syrians are still leaving Assad's regime, albeit at smaller numbers than before. Boko Haram's leader has been killed and its camps have been destroyed.\nA huge but here... Al-Shabaab is still a major concern but more as a domestic concern. Every year, there are several attacks in Mogadishu and other cities throughout Somalia.",
">\n\nI would add that a group of militants attacks Southern Tanzania and northern Mozambique.",
">\n\nI'm actually not sure they are gone but they're definitely in retreat. USA and friends capped a lot of their leadership. They're either in retreat and rebuilding, or just done. I can't answer for Europe but I can also say that the focus in the USA is shifting to domestic terror.\nSorry if my response is too brief. I don't believe the answers are that complex. Religious government is on the rise, authoritarianism also, so they're busy at home. Oppressing the women.",
">\n\nI believe this is what it is too. Focus has shifted.",
">\n\nBecause ISIS was destroyed. Tens of thousands of its fighters were annihilated. And more importantly, Saudi Arabia and the gulf states which exported fundamentalist Islamism are moderating a bit. \nIt’s still a major problem though, just not in the West. The Sahel for instance is constantly ravaged by Islamist violence and there was just recently a massive terror attack in Pakistan.",
">\n\nProbably mainly because there haven't been any major Islamist terror attacks lately, while our attention has been drawn away by all the other scary stuff happening. Also Al Qaeda and ISIS are only a shadow of their former selves by now.",
">\n\nHere in France, there's still several \"Islamic terrorism-adjacent\" murders each year - ie. acts carried out by mentally deranged people that have latched onto Islamism as a motivating idealogy - there was a mass stabbing in Gare du Nord about two weeks ago.",
">\n\nThat’s scary, and I don’t think we even heard about it over here",
">\n\nA) All the leaders are dead. \nB) They’ve probably seen all the chaos in the West over the past decade and realize attacking is a waste of time.",
">\n\nBecause there's a war on Christmas, CRT, the border, and litter boxes in schools happening instead. It will come around again. Our tiny brains can only deal with 3 or 4 drumbeats at a time.",
">\n\nThe GOP can't really harp on Islamic terrorism while American rightwing terrorists are on the uptick.",
">\n\nI think COVID is the thing you're missing. It kinda distracted everyone for a while, and it killed a lot more people than terrorists ever did. Terrorism was always a massively-overinflated threat for the US and Europe, so it was easy to ignore it when an actual threat came along.",
">\n\nNow it’s Christian nationalism that’s our biggest national threat. Go figure",
">\n\nEh, Christian extremists haven't flown two planes into skyscrapers or shot up an LGBT nightclub or bombed a stadium full of kids or beheaded a teacher because he dared to draw Jesus. I'd say we're a ways away from Christian nationalism being a threat.",
">\n\nNo. They bomb abortion clinics and attack liberals and democrats. They launch insurrections when their candidate loses. Christian extremists call for a real-life version of Gilead here in America. They are a much bigger threat than Islamic radicals because they're homegrown terrorists.",
">\n\nAnd my point is that a possible threat is far better than two planes crashing into the Twin Towers, which was an actual threat.",
">\n\nBut it’s not a threat now. It’s an event that happened two decades ago. To the point of the OP, this type of extremism is no longer viewed as a threat in America. Recent history suggests that terrorism in the US will much more likely be committed by right wing Americans instead. We shouldn’t need another OKC bombing scale attack to acknowledge that.",
">\n\nOnly if you bought into the media hype, especially Republican media that needs to instill fear and dread of the \"other\". I actually had a neighbor who was certain Obama would usher in an era of Sharia law in the US during that time period.\nI tried explaining that ISIS and other such extremist Islamic worldviews were medieval in nature, and incapable of successfully propagating (much) in the modern world. They would eventually just burn out on their own. Worldviews can get outcompeted by more successful ones, just like species can. The vast majority of modern people simply do not want to be beheaded (or ruled) by extremists of any religion or ideology. But too many people unquestionably absorb the narratives they hear on tv.\nAnd of course the US needs an enemy du jour to justify its $1T/year war budget. So the American people will always be heavily propagandized by the state (corporate) media to fear the designated \"terrorist\" group, so they don't ever ask if all that money might otherwise be spent on healthcare, a living wage, or some other unicorn and puppies fantasy like that.",
">\n\nI know your ass isn’t blaming the “republican media” when Obama literally drone strikes so many people we ran out of bombs",
">\n\nI’m sorry if I didn’t structure my essay as clearly as I intended. \nBoth sides of the US corporate media often push the same false narratives but for different purposes. The Republicans pushed “radical Islamic terrorism” because they hate and fear “foreign” people especially if they are “non Christian”. And because the Democrats are “soft on terror” and “want Sharia law”.\nThe Democrats pushed for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, and yes unquestioningly allowed Obama’s and then trump’s drone attacks, because “they attacked us on 9/11” and “they are the bad terrorists we must fight over there so they can’t blow us up here” as the pretext (which was also Bush Junior’s line of reasoning), but more truly because the military industrial complex needs liberals to keep paying them hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars every year. \nRepublicans basically hate and fear all Muslims (remember they cheered trump’s Muslim ban), while liberals are only afraid of the “extremist” Muslims that CNN and the NYT tell them to fear. But in both cases, most Americans lost their taste for endless war in the Middle East. It’s much easier to sell them on a new endless war in the Ukraine. Especially since Putin clearly also is a power hungry dictator who made the calculation that he could more easily maintain power as a “war president”, much as the calculation Cheney/Bush made when they decided to invade Iraq (remember George Tenet said it was going to be a “slam dunk” and then we were stuck there for a decade — but the people still re-elected the dumbest and most incompetent president we ever had up to that point). \nBoth political parties are the two wings of the capitalist corporatist militarist party that runs the United States. The American people (all of them regardless of affiliation, religious belief, and education level) are the most heavily propagandized people in the history of the world. The American people could have voted for someone who voted against the Iraq war and who has vocally been against arming the Saudi’s in their Yemen war (Bernie Sanders) in 2016 and then again in 2020 but they voted for the War Mongers of both parties, both times. The vast majority of all Americans would rather spend their hard earned money on keeping their military bloated, rather than giving themselves universal single-payer healthcare or a guaranteed livable wage.",
">\n\nEvery single media outlet pushed war. candi rice and Hilary Clinton were literally just on a podcast still talking about WMD. Every news outlet lied. Every politician lied. The republicans just wore it on their sleeve more and the dems were dropping bombs with HOPE on them.\nEdit: the DNC trashed Bernie’s campaign both times and he rolled over. There is no hope for an anti war party in America. Is there any legitimate pushback with Ukraine ? If you criticize the escalation you get attacked. Was the same thing after 9/11.",
">\n\nThe right wing wants everyone to fear transgender people now. They are the new \"other\" to hate.",
">\n\nMaGA Republicans and cancel culture crazies are probably the new terrorists while Islamists are sitting quietly in the back of the bus planning the next 9-11",
">\n\nCouple of reasons.\nFor starters, a lot of the big catalysts for \"Islamic terrorism\" are....busy.\nISIS' main branch is pretty focused on conflict within Afghanistan against the Taliban and as such hasn't had a plethora of Western targets to strike at. Other ISIS franchises have been acting more locally in their country of origin.\nA lot of other networks have been pretty badly crippled by ongoing counter-terrorism efforts and have scaled back or shifted operations. As much of a pig's breakfast as the US has made of terrorism screening and control efforts at the domestic level, we've had a number of years to refine things and get it right enough that we can catch most of the problems headed our way. At least the problems with the backing of actual organizations/networks.\nSimilarly, the US is out(ish) of Afghanistan and Iraq which means we're just not there to be the target of attacks or enflame sentiment towards us that makes us the target of attacks. We're just less exposed than we used to be.\nThe conflict media cycle has also been living and breathing Ukraine for a year now which has taken a lot of wind out of the attention sails for Islamic fundamentalist terrorism.",
">\n\nIt only seems that way if you are an American. If you are a European especially a French, however, jihadism and Islamism are constant threats that need to be destroyed. After the beheading of French schoolteacher Samuel Paty in October 2020, the \"centrist\" French president Emmanuel Macron and his government finally had enough and have unleashed a huge campaign against the enemies they refer to as Islamo-leftism and Islamist separatism.\nOf course, the liberal media in the United States and the UK hate what the French have been doing. The New York Times even published this opinion article victim blaming the French.\nColor-blind France will not tolerate any challenge to its secular and democratic Republican values including Muslim children. All French Muslims must uphold those values including the ban on hijabs.\nOverall, this is how the French view the paradox of tolerance and freedom of expression.\nEdit: Formatting",
">\n\nThat’s not Islamic terrorism that a coordinated attack by a subjugated and oppressed population in Israel.",
">\n\nTerrorism: \"the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.\" \nYou don't get to change the definition of words.",
">\n\nIn America we have white supremacist domestic terrorists as our biggest threat now"
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Kurds in Syria helped crush Isis before Trump abandoned them. We pulled out of the middle east as well which was a large part of their hatred of us. Right wing extremists in America are also a far larger and still growing threat. They've been attacking Democrats, and FBI offices as well as trying to overthrow our democracy. | [
"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
">\n\nI would classify it as intra-islamic terrorism.",
">\n\nI’m really not looking forward to having to deal with “Post-Modern Islamic Terrorism.”",
">\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\nThe biggest potential threat for Islamist (not Islamic, there's a difference) terrorism in the west post-9/11 was almost always \"lone wolf\" attacks against soft targets.\nWell, the decisive action against ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, and similar organizations both crippled their ability to fund such operations, diminished their reach via social media, and severely crippled their leadership structures. After all, nobody wants to take an afternoon drive and get hit with a slap chop missile that doesn't leave enough left to fill a doggy bag.",
">\n\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\n\nI'd edit that to the US, not the west. Europe has issues still, though they are less than years past as we have mostly destroyed the large organizations.",
">\n\nISIS is now only a shell of what it was before. After government forces recaptured Mosul, that was pretty much its last stand. It became relegated to being tiny and extremely demoralized fighting cells in the desert. Less war like conditions now and therefore less people being displaced. Many of the people who went there to fight with ISIS have become disillusioned after seeing ISIS for what it was. They are either being prosecuted in their home countries or rendered stateless after leaders of various countries have revoked their citizenships. \nToday, Iraq has entered a period of relative stability after ISIS had been significantly weakened and US forces being ejected by the Iraqi government. Syrians are still leaving Assad's regime, albeit at smaller numbers than before. Boko Haram's leader has been killed and its camps have been destroyed.\nA huge but here... Al-Shabaab is still a major concern but more as a domestic concern. Every year, there are several attacks in Mogadishu and other cities throughout Somalia.",
">\n\nI would add that a group of militants attacks Southern Tanzania and northern Mozambique.",
">\n\nI'm actually not sure they are gone but they're definitely in retreat. USA and friends capped a lot of their leadership. They're either in retreat and rebuilding, or just done. I can't answer for Europe but I can also say that the focus in the USA is shifting to domestic terror.\nSorry if my response is too brief. I don't believe the answers are that complex. Religious government is on the rise, authoritarianism also, so they're busy at home. Oppressing the women.",
">\n\nI believe this is what it is too. Focus has shifted.",
">\n\nBecause ISIS was destroyed. Tens of thousands of its fighters were annihilated. And more importantly, Saudi Arabia and the gulf states which exported fundamentalist Islamism are moderating a bit. \nIt’s still a major problem though, just not in the West. The Sahel for instance is constantly ravaged by Islamist violence and there was just recently a massive terror attack in Pakistan.",
">\n\nProbably mainly because there haven't been any major Islamist terror attacks lately, while our attention has been drawn away by all the other scary stuff happening. Also Al Qaeda and ISIS are only a shadow of their former selves by now.",
">\n\nHere in France, there's still several \"Islamic terrorism-adjacent\" murders each year - ie. acts carried out by mentally deranged people that have latched onto Islamism as a motivating idealogy - there was a mass stabbing in Gare du Nord about two weeks ago.",
">\n\nThat’s scary, and I don’t think we even heard about it over here",
">\n\nA) All the leaders are dead. \nB) They’ve probably seen all the chaos in the West over the past decade and realize attacking is a waste of time.",
">\n\nBecause there's a war on Christmas, CRT, the border, and litter boxes in schools happening instead. It will come around again. Our tiny brains can only deal with 3 or 4 drumbeats at a time.",
">\n\nThe GOP can't really harp on Islamic terrorism while American rightwing terrorists are on the uptick.",
">\n\nI think COVID is the thing you're missing. It kinda distracted everyone for a while, and it killed a lot more people than terrorists ever did. Terrorism was always a massively-overinflated threat for the US and Europe, so it was easy to ignore it when an actual threat came along.",
">\n\nNow it’s Christian nationalism that’s our biggest national threat. Go figure",
">\n\nEh, Christian extremists haven't flown two planes into skyscrapers or shot up an LGBT nightclub or bombed a stadium full of kids or beheaded a teacher because he dared to draw Jesus. I'd say we're a ways away from Christian nationalism being a threat.",
">\n\nNo. They bomb abortion clinics and attack liberals and democrats. They launch insurrections when their candidate loses. Christian extremists call for a real-life version of Gilead here in America. They are a much bigger threat than Islamic radicals because they're homegrown terrorists.",
">\n\nAnd my point is that a possible threat is far better than two planes crashing into the Twin Towers, which was an actual threat.",
">\n\nBut it’s not a threat now. It’s an event that happened two decades ago. To the point of the OP, this type of extremism is no longer viewed as a threat in America. Recent history suggests that terrorism in the US will much more likely be committed by right wing Americans instead. We shouldn’t need another OKC bombing scale attack to acknowledge that.",
">\n\nOnly if you bought into the media hype, especially Republican media that needs to instill fear and dread of the \"other\". I actually had a neighbor who was certain Obama would usher in an era of Sharia law in the US during that time period.\nI tried explaining that ISIS and other such extremist Islamic worldviews were medieval in nature, and incapable of successfully propagating (much) in the modern world. They would eventually just burn out on their own. Worldviews can get outcompeted by more successful ones, just like species can. The vast majority of modern people simply do not want to be beheaded (or ruled) by extremists of any religion or ideology. But too many people unquestionably absorb the narratives they hear on tv.\nAnd of course the US needs an enemy du jour to justify its $1T/year war budget. So the American people will always be heavily propagandized by the state (corporate) media to fear the designated \"terrorist\" group, so they don't ever ask if all that money might otherwise be spent on healthcare, a living wage, or some other unicorn and puppies fantasy like that.",
">\n\nI know your ass isn’t blaming the “republican media” when Obama literally drone strikes so many people we ran out of bombs",
">\n\nI’m sorry if I didn’t structure my essay as clearly as I intended. \nBoth sides of the US corporate media often push the same false narratives but for different purposes. The Republicans pushed “radical Islamic terrorism” because they hate and fear “foreign” people especially if they are “non Christian”. And because the Democrats are “soft on terror” and “want Sharia law”.\nThe Democrats pushed for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, and yes unquestioningly allowed Obama’s and then trump’s drone attacks, because “they attacked us on 9/11” and “they are the bad terrorists we must fight over there so they can’t blow us up here” as the pretext (which was also Bush Junior’s line of reasoning), but more truly because the military industrial complex needs liberals to keep paying them hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars every year. \nRepublicans basically hate and fear all Muslims (remember they cheered trump’s Muslim ban), while liberals are only afraid of the “extremist” Muslims that CNN and the NYT tell them to fear. But in both cases, most Americans lost their taste for endless war in the Middle East. It’s much easier to sell them on a new endless war in the Ukraine. Especially since Putin clearly also is a power hungry dictator who made the calculation that he could more easily maintain power as a “war president”, much as the calculation Cheney/Bush made when they decided to invade Iraq (remember George Tenet said it was going to be a “slam dunk” and then we were stuck there for a decade — but the people still re-elected the dumbest and most incompetent president we ever had up to that point). \nBoth political parties are the two wings of the capitalist corporatist militarist party that runs the United States. The American people (all of them regardless of affiliation, religious belief, and education level) are the most heavily propagandized people in the history of the world. The American people could have voted for someone who voted against the Iraq war and who has vocally been against arming the Saudi’s in their Yemen war (Bernie Sanders) in 2016 and then again in 2020 but they voted for the War Mongers of both parties, both times. The vast majority of all Americans would rather spend their hard earned money on keeping their military bloated, rather than giving themselves universal single-payer healthcare or a guaranteed livable wage.",
">\n\nEvery single media outlet pushed war. candi rice and Hilary Clinton were literally just on a podcast still talking about WMD. Every news outlet lied. Every politician lied. The republicans just wore it on their sleeve more and the dems were dropping bombs with HOPE on them.\nEdit: the DNC trashed Bernie’s campaign both times and he rolled over. There is no hope for an anti war party in America. Is there any legitimate pushback with Ukraine ? If you criticize the escalation you get attacked. Was the same thing after 9/11.",
">\n\nThe right wing wants everyone to fear transgender people now. They are the new \"other\" to hate.",
">\n\nMaGA Republicans and cancel culture crazies are probably the new terrorists while Islamists are sitting quietly in the back of the bus planning the next 9-11",
">\n\nCouple of reasons.\nFor starters, a lot of the big catalysts for \"Islamic terrorism\" are....busy.\nISIS' main branch is pretty focused on conflict within Afghanistan against the Taliban and as such hasn't had a plethora of Western targets to strike at. Other ISIS franchises have been acting more locally in their country of origin.\nA lot of other networks have been pretty badly crippled by ongoing counter-terrorism efforts and have scaled back or shifted operations. As much of a pig's breakfast as the US has made of terrorism screening and control efforts at the domestic level, we've had a number of years to refine things and get it right enough that we can catch most of the problems headed our way. At least the problems with the backing of actual organizations/networks.\nSimilarly, the US is out(ish) of Afghanistan and Iraq which means we're just not there to be the target of attacks or enflame sentiment towards us that makes us the target of attacks. We're just less exposed than we used to be.\nThe conflict media cycle has also been living and breathing Ukraine for a year now which has taken a lot of wind out of the attention sails for Islamic fundamentalist terrorism.",
">\n\nIt only seems that way if you are an American. If you are a European especially a French, however, jihadism and Islamism are constant threats that need to be destroyed. After the beheading of French schoolteacher Samuel Paty in October 2020, the \"centrist\" French president Emmanuel Macron and his government finally had enough and have unleashed a huge campaign against the enemies they refer to as Islamo-leftism and Islamist separatism.\nOf course, the liberal media in the United States and the UK hate what the French have been doing. The New York Times even published this opinion article victim blaming the French.\nColor-blind France will not tolerate any challenge to its secular and democratic Republican values including Muslim children. All French Muslims must uphold those values including the ban on hijabs.\nOverall, this is how the French view the paradox of tolerance and freedom of expression.\nEdit: Formatting",
">\n\nThat’s not Islamic terrorism that a coordinated attack by a subjugated and oppressed population in Israel.",
">\n\nTerrorism: \"the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.\" \nYou don't get to change the definition of words.",
">\n\nIn America we have white supremacist domestic terrorists as our biggest threat now",
">\n\nThe closer the date is to 09/11/2001and greater the melanin content the skin of the POTUS the more it matters according to the US right wing."
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I mean, we just took out a leader in somolia like a week or so ago. You can google isis news... it's just not as prevalent in the news cycle. Probably got lots of monitoring systems going on in the background (obv) but ya know... now it's all Russia Russia Russia, wqr in Ukraine. Now there's the chinese balloon and whoever all is in cahoots over there. | [
"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
">\n\nI would classify it as intra-islamic terrorism.",
">\n\nI’m really not looking forward to having to deal with “Post-Modern Islamic Terrorism.”",
">\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\nThe biggest potential threat for Islamist (not Islamic, there's a difference) terrorism in the west post-9/11 was almost always \"lone wolf\" attacks against soft targets.\nWell, the decisive action against ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, and similar organizations both crippled their ability to fund such operations, diminished their reach via social media, and severely crippled their leadership structures. After all, nobody wants to take an afternoon drive and get hit with a slap chop missile that doesn't leave enough left to fill a doggy bag.",
">\n\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\n\nI'd edit that to the US, not the west. Europe has issues still, though they are less than years past as we have mostly destroyed the large organizations.",
">\n\nISIS is now only a shell of what it was before. After government forces recaptured Mosul, that was pretty much its last stand. It became relegated to being tiny and extremely demoralized fighting cells in the desert. Less war like conditions now and therefore less people being displaced. Many of the people who went there to fight with ISIS have become disillusioned after seeing ISIS for what it was. They are either being prosecuted in their home countries or rendered stateless after leaders of various countries have revoked their citizenships. \nToday, Iraq has entered a period of relative stability after ISIS had been significantly weakened and US forces being ejected by the Iraqi government. Syrians are still leaving Assad's regime, albeit at smaller numbers than before. Boko Haram's leader has been killed and its camps have been destroyed.\nA huge but here... Al-Shabaab is still a major concern but more as a domestic concern. Every year, there are several attacks in Mogadishu and other cities throughout Somalia.",
">\n\nI would add that a group of militants attacks Southern Tanzania and northern Mozambique.",
">\n\nI'm actually not sure they are gone but they're definitely in retreat. USA and friends capped a lot of their leadership. They're either in retreat and rebuilding, or just done. I can't answer for Europe but I can also say that the focus in the USA is shifting to domestic terror.\nSorry if my response is too brief. I don't believe the answers are that complex. Religious government is on the rise, authoritarianism also, so they're busy at home. Oppressing the women.",
">\n\nI believe this is what it is too. Focus has shifted.",
">\n\nBecause ISIS was destroyed. Tens of thousands of its fighters were annihilated. And more importantly, Saudi Arabia and the gulf states which exported fundamentalist Islamism are moderating a bit. \nIt’s still a major problem though, just not in the West. The Sahel for instance is constantly ravaged by Islamist violence and there was just recently a massive terror attack in Pakistan.",
">\n\nProbably mainly because there haven't been any major Islamist terror attacks lately, while our attention has been drawn away by all the other scary stuff happening. Also Al Qaeda and ISIS are only a shadow of their former selves by now.",
">\n\nHere in France, there's still several \"Islamic terrorism-adjacent\" murders each year - ie. acts carried out by mentally deranged people that have latched onto Islamism as a motivating idealogy - there was a mass stabbing in Gare du Nord about two weeks ago.",
">\n\nThat’s scary, and I don’t think we even heard about it over here",
">\n\nA) All the leaders are dead. \nB) They’ve probably seen all the chaos in the West over the past decade and realize attacking is a waste of time.",
">\n\nBecause there's a war on Christmas, CRT, the border, and litter boxes in schools happening instead. It will come around again. Our tiny brains can only deal with 3 or 4 drumbeats at a time.",
">\n\nThe GOP can't really harp on Islamic terrorism while American rightwing terrorists are on the uptick.",
">\n\nI think COVID is the thing you're missing. It kinda distracted everyone for a while, and it killed a lot more people than terrorists ever did. Terrorism was always a massively-overinflated threat for the US and Europe, so it was easy to ignore it when an actual threat came along.",
">\n\nNow it’s Christian nationalism that’s our biggest national threat. Go figure",
">\n\nEh, Christian extremists haven't flown two planes into skyscrapers or shot up an LGBT nightclub or bombed a stadium full of kids or beheaded a teacher because he dared to draw Jesus. I'd say we're a ways away from Christian nationalism being a threat.",
">\n\nNo. They bomb abortion clinics and attack liberals and democrats. They launch insurrections when their candidate loses. Christian extremists call for a real-life version of Gilead here in America. They are a much bigger threat than Islamic radicals because they're homegrown terrorists.",
">\n\nAnd my point is that a possible threat is far better than two planes crashing into the Twin Towers, which was an actual threat.",
">\n\nBut it’s not a threat now. It’s an event that happened two decades ago. To the point of the OP, this type of extremism is no longer viewed as a threat in America. Recent history suggests that terrorism in the US will much more likely be committed by right wing Americans instead. We shouldn’t need another OKC bombing scale attack to acknowledge that.",
">\n\nOnly if you bought into the media hype, especially Republican media that needs to instill fear and dread of the \"other\". I actually had a neighbor who was certain Obama would usher in an era of Sharia law in the US during that time period.\nI tried explaining that ISIS and other such extremist Islamic worldviews were medieval in nature, and incapable of successfully propagating (much) in the modern world. They would eventually just burn out on their own. Worldviews can get outcompeted by more successful ones, just like species can. The vast majority of modern people simply do not want to be beheaded (or ruled) by extremists of any religion or ideology. But too many people unquestionably absorb the narratives they hear on tv.\nAnd of course the US needs an enemy du jour to justify its $1T/year war budget. So the American people will always be heavily propagandized by the state (corporate) media to fear the designated \"terrorist\" group, so they don't ever ask if all that money might otherwise be spent on healthcare, a living wage, or some other unicorn and puppies fantasy like that.",
">\n\nI know your ass isn’t blaming the “republican media” when Obama literally drone strikes so many people we ran out of bombs",
">\n\nI’m sorry if I didn’t structure my essay as clearly as I intended. \nBoth sides of the US corporate media often push the same false narratives but for different purposes. The Republicans pushed “radical Islamic terrorism” because they hate and fear “foreign” people especially if they are “non Christian”. And because the Democrats are “soft on terror” and “want Sharia law”.\nThe Democrats pushed for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, and yes unquestioningly allowed Obama’s and then trump’s drone attacks, because “they attacked us on 9/11” and “they are the bad terrorists we must fight over there so they can’t blow us up here” as the pretext (which was also Bush Junior’s line of reasoning), but more truly because the military industrial complex needs liberals to keep paying them hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars every year. \nRepublicans basically hate and fear all Muslims (remember they cheered trump’s Muslim ban), while liberals are only afraid of the “extremist” Muslims that CNN and the NYT tell them to fear. But in both cases, most Americans lost their taste for endless war in the Middle East. It’s much easier to sell them on a new endless war in the Ukraine. Especially since Putin clearly also is a power hungry dictator who made the calculation that he could more easily maintain power as a “war president”, much as the calculation Cheney/Bush made when they decided to invade Iraq (remember George Tenet said it was going to be a “slam dunk” and then we were stuck there for a decade — but the people still re-elected the dumbest and most incompetent president we ever had up to that point). \nBoth political parties are the two wings of the capitalist corporatist militarist party that runs the United States. The American people (all of them regardless of affiliation, religious belief, and education level) are the most heavily propagandized people in the history of the world. The American people could have voted for someone who voted against the Iraq war and who has vocally been against arming the Saudi’s in their Yemen war (Bernie Sanders) in 2016 and then again in 2020 but they voted for the War Mongers of both parties, both times. The vast majority of all Americans would rather spend their hard earned money on keeping their military bloated, rather than giving themselves universal single-payer healthcare or a guaranteed livable wage.",
">\n\nEvery single media outlet pushed war. candi rice and Hilary Clinton were literally just on a podcast still talking about WMD. Every news outlet lied. Every politician lied. The republicans just wore it on their sleeve more and the dems were dropping bombs with HOPE on them.\nEdit: the DNC trashed Bernie’s campaign both times and he rolled over. There is no hope for an anti war party in America. Is there any legitimate pushback with Ukraine ? If you criticize the escalation you get attacked. Was the same thing after 9/11.",
">\n\nThe right wing wants everyone to fear transgender people now. They are the new \"other\" to hate.",
">\n\nMaGA Republicans and cancel culture crazies are probably the new terrorists while Islamists are sitting quietly in the back of the bus planning the next 9-11",
">\n\nCouple of reasons.\nFor starters, a lot of the big catalysts for \"Islamic terrorism\" are....busy.\nISIS' main branch is pretty focused on conflict within Afghanistan against the Taliban and as such hasn't had a plethora of Western targets to strike at. Other ISIS franchises have been acting more locally in their country of origin.\nA lot of other networks have been pretty badly crippled by ongoing counter-terrorism efforts and have scaled back or shifted operations. As much of a pig's breakfast as the US has made of terrorism screening and control efforts at the domestic level, we've had a number of years to refine things and get it right enough that we can catch most of the problems headed our way. At least the problems with the backing of actual organizations/networks.\nSimilarly, the US is out(ish) of Afghanistan and Iraq which means we're just not there to be the target of attacks or enflame sentiment towards us that makes us the target of attacks. We're just less exposed than we used to be.\nThe conflict media cycle has also been living and breathing Ukraine for a year now which has taken a lot of wind out of the attention sails for Islamic fundamentalist terrorism.",
">\n\nIt only seems that way if you are an American. If you are a European especially a French, however, jihadism and Islamism are constant threats that need to be destroyed. After the beheading of French schoolteacher Samuel Paty in October 2020, the \"centrist\" French president Emmanuel Macron and his government finally had enough and have unleashed a huge campaign against the enemies they refer to as Islamo-leftism and Islamist separatism.\nOf course, the liberal media in the United States and the UK hate what the French have been doing. The New York Times even published this opinion article victim blaming the French.\nColor-blind France will not tolerate any challenge to its secular and democratic Republican values including Muslim children. All French Muslims must uphold those values including the ban on hijabs.\nOverall, this is how the French view the paradox of tolerance and freedom of expression.\nEdit: Formatting",
">\n\nThat’s not Islamic terrorism that a coordinated attack by a subjugated and oppressed population in Israel.",
">\n\nTerrorism: \"the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.\" \nYou don't get to change the definition of words.",
">\n\nIn America we have white supremacist domestic terrorists as our biggest threat now",
">\n\nThe closer the date is to 09/11/2001and greater the melanin content the skin of the POTUS the more it matters according to the US right wing.",
">\n\nKurds in Syria helped crush Isis before Trump abandoned them. We pulled out of the middle east as well which was a large part of their hatred of us. Right wing extremists in America are also a far larger and still growing threat. They've been attacking Democrats, and FBI offices as well as trying to overthrow our democracy."
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Because the FBI is doing a good job at it. Give them the powers to fight domestic terrorism and white supremacists, and I'll guarantee you, we will never see anything remotely resembling January 6 again. | [
"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
">\n\nI would classify it as intra-islamic terrorism.",
">\n\nI’m really not looking forward to having to deal with “Post-Modern Islamic Terrorism.”",
">\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\nThe biggest potential threat for Islamist (not Islamic, there's a difference) terrorism in the west post-9/11 was almost always \"lone wolf\" attacks against soft targets.\nWell, the decisive action against ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, and similar organizations both crippled their ability to fund such operations, diminished their reach via social media, and severely crippled their leadership structures. After all, nobody wants to take an afternoon drive and get hit with a slap chop missile that doesn't leave enough left to fill a doggy bag.",
">\n\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\n\nI'd edit that to the US, not the west. Europe has issues still, though they are less than years past as we have mostly destroyed the large organizations.",
">\n\nISIS is now only a shell of what it was before. After government forces recaptured Mosul, that was pretty much its last stand. It became relegated to being tiny and extremely demoralized fighting cells in the desert. Less war like conditions now and therefore less people being displaced. Many of the people who went there to fight with ISIS have become disillusioned after seeing ISIS for what it was. They are either being prosecuted in their home countries or rendered stateless after leaders of various countries have revoked their citizenships. \nToday, Iraq has entered a period of relative stability after ISIS had been significantly weakened and US forces being ejected by the Iraqi government. Syrians are still leaving Assad's regime, albeit at smaller numbers than before. Boko Haram's leader has been killed and its camps have been destroyed.\nA huge but here... Al-Shabaab is still a major concern but more as a domestic concern. Every year, there are several attacks in Mogadishu and other cities throughout Somalia.",
">\n\nI would add that a group of militants attacks Southern Tanzania and northern Mozambique.",
">\n\nI'm actually not sure they are gone but they're definitely in retreat. USA and friends capped a lot of their leadership. They're either in retreat and rebuilding, or just done. I can't answer for Europe but I can also say that the focus in the USA is shifting to domestic terror.\nSorry if my response is too brief. I don't believe the answers are that complex. Religious government is on the rise, authoritarianism also, so they're busy at home. Oppressing the women.",
">\n\nI believe this is what it is too. Focus has shifted.",
">\n\nBecause ISIS was destroyed. Tens of thousands of its fighters were annihilated. And more importantly, Saudi Arabia and the gulf states which exported fundamentalist Islamism are moderating a bit. \nIt’s still a major problem though, just not in the West. The Sahel for instance is constantly ravaged by Islamist violence and there was just recently a massive terror attack in Pakistan.",
">\n\nProbably mainly because there haven't been any major Islamist terror attacks lately, while our attention has been drawn away by all the other scary stuff happening. Also Al Qaeda and ISIS are only a shadow of their former selves by now.",
">\n\nHere in France, there's still several \"Islamic terrorism-adjacent\" murders each year - ie. acts carried out by mentally deranged people that have latched onto Islamism as a motivating idealogy - there was a mass stabbing in Gare du Nord about two weeks ago.",
">\n\nThat’s scary, and I don’t think we even heard about it over here",
">\n\nA) All the leaders are dead. \nB) They’ve probably seen all the chaos in the West over the past decade and realize attacking is a waste of time.",
">\n\nBecause there's a war on Christmas, CRT, the border, and litter boxes in schools happening instead. It will come around again. Our tiny brains can only deal with 3 or 4 drumbeats at a time.",
">\n\nThe GOP can't really harp on Islamic terrorism while American rightwing terrorists are on the uptick.",
">\n\nI think COVID is the thing you're missing. It kinda distracted everyone for a while, and it killed a lot more people than terrorists ever did. Terrorism was always a massively-overinflated threat for the US and Europe, so it was easy to ignore it when an actual threat came along.",
">\n\nNow it’s Christian nationalism that’s our biggest national threat. Go figure",
">\n\nEh, Christian extremists haven't flown two planes into skyscrapers or shot up an LGBT nightclub or bombed a stadium full of kids or beheaded a teacher because he dared to draw Jesus. I'd say we're a ways away from Christian nationalism being a threat.",
">\n\nNo. They bomb abortion clinics and attack liberals and democrats. They launch insurrections when their candidate loses. Christian extremists call for a real-life version of Gilead here in America. They are a much bigger threat than Islamic radicals because they're homegrown terrorists.",
">\n\nAnd my point is that a possible threat is far better than two planes crashing into the Twin Towers, which was an actual threat.",
">\n\nBut it’s not a threat now. It’s an event that happened two decades ago. To the point of the OP, this type of extremism is no longer viewed as a threat in America. Recent history suggests that terrorism in the US will much more likely be committed by right wing Americans instead. We shouldn’t need another OKC bombing scale attack to acknowledge that.",
">\n\nOnly if you bought into the media hype, especially Republican media that needs to instill fear and dread of the \"other\". I actually had a neighbor who was certain Obama would usher in an era of Sharia law in the US during that time period.\nI tried explaining that ISIS and other such extremist Islamic worldviews were medieval in nature, and incapable of successfully propagating (much) in the modern world. They would eventually just burn out on their own. Worldviews can get outcompeted by more successful ones, just like species can. The vast majority of modern people simply do not want to be beheaded (or ruled) by extremists of any religion or ideology. But too many people unquestionably absorb the narratives they hear on tv.\nAnd of course the US needs an enemy du jour to justify its $1T/year war budget. So the American people will always be heavily propagandized by the state (corporate) media to fear the designated \"terrorist\" group, so they don't ever ask if all that money might otherwise be spent on healthcare, a living wage, or some other unicorn and puppies fantasy like that.",
">\n\nI know your ass isn’t blaming the “republican media” when Obama literally drone strikes so many people we ran out of bombs",
">\n\nI’m sorry if I didn’t structure my essay as clearly as I intended. \nBoth sides of the US corporate media often push the same false narratives but for different purposes. The Republicans pushed “radical Islamic terrorism” because they hate and fear “foreign” people especially if they are “non Christian”. And because the Democrats are “soft on terror” and “want Sharia law”.\nThe Democrats pushed for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, and yes unquestioningly allowed Obama’s and then trump’s drone attacks, because “they attacked us on 9/11” and “they are the bad terrorists we must fight over there so they can’t blow us up here” as the pretext (which was also Bush Junior’s line of reasoning), but more truly because the military industrial complex needs liberals to keep paying them hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars every year. \nRepublicans basically hate and fear all Muslims (remember they cheered trump’s Muslim ban), while liberals are only afraid of the “extremist” Muslims that CNN and the NYT tell them to fear. But in both cases, most Americans lost their taste for endless war in the Middle East. It’s much easier to sell them on a new endless war in the Ukraine. Especially since Putin clearly also is a power hungry dictator who made the calculation that he could more easily maintain power as a “war president”, much as the calculation Cheney/Bush made when they decided to invade Iraq (remember George Tenet said it was going to be a “slam dunk” and then we were stuck there for a decade — but the people still re-elected the dumbest and most incompetent president we ever had up to that point). \nBoth political parties are the two wings of the capitalist corporatist militarist party that runs the United States. The American people (all of them regardless of affiliation, religious belief, and education level) are the most heavily propagandized people in the history of the world. The American people could have voted for someone who voted against the Iraq war and who has vocally been against arming the Saudi’s in their Yemen war (Bernie Sanders) in 2016 and then again in 2020 but they voted for the War Mongers of both parties, both times. The vast majority of all Americans would rather spend their hard earned money on keeping their military bloated, rather than giving themselves universal single-payer healthcare or a guaranteed livable wage.",
">\n\nEvery single media outlet pushed war. candi rice and Hilary Clinton were literally just on a podcast still talking about WMD. Every news outlet lied. Every politician lied. The republicans just wore it on their sleeve more and the dems were dropping bombs with HOPE on them.\nEdit: the DNC trashed Bernie’s campaign both times and he rolled over. There is no hope for an anti war party in America. Is there any legitimate pushback with Ukraine ? If you criticize the escalation you get attacked. Was the same thing after 9/11.",
">\n\nThe right wing wants everyone to fear transgender people now. They are the new \"other\" to hate.",
">\n\nMaGA Republicans and cancel culture crazies are probably the new terrorists while Islamists are sitting quietly in the back of the bus planning the next 9-11",
">\n\nCouple of reasons.\nFor starters, a lot of the big catalysts for \"Islamic terrorism\" are....busy.\nISIS' main branch is pretty focused on conflict within Afghanistan against the Taliban and as such hasn't had a plethora of Western targets to strike at. Other ISIS franchises have been acting more locally in their country of origin.\nA lot of other networks have been pretty badly crippled by ongoing counter-terrorism efforts and have scaled back or shifted operations. As much of a pig's breakfast as the US has made of terrorism screening and control efforts at the domestic level, we've had a number of years to refine things and get it right enough that we can catch most of the problems headed our way. At least the problems with the backing of actual organizations/networks.\nSimilarly, the US is out(ish) of Afghanistan and Iraq which means we're just not there to be the target of attacks or enflame sentiment towards us that makes us the target of attacks. We're just less exposed than we used to be.\nThe conflict media cycle has also been living and breathing Ukraine for a year now which has taken a lot of wind out of the attention sails for Islamic fundamentalist terrorism.",
">\n\nIt only seems that way if you are an American. If you are a European especially a French, however, jihadism and Islamism are constant threats that need to be destroyed. After the beheading of French schoolteacher Samuel Paty in October 2020, the \"centrist\" French president Emmanuel Macron and his government finally had enough and have unleashed a huge campaign against the enemies they refer to as Islamo-leftism and Islamist separatism.\nOf course, the liberal media in the United States and the UK hate what the French have been doing. The New York Times even published this opinion article victim blaming the French.\nColor-blind France will not tolerate any challenge to its secular and democratic Republican values including Muslim children. All French Muslims must uphold those values including the ban on hijabs.\nOverall, this is how the French view the paradox of tolerance and freedom of expression.\nEdit: Formatting",
">\n\nThat’s not Islamic terrorism that a coordinated attack by a subjugated and oppressed population in Israel.",
">\n\nTerrorism: \"the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.\" \nYou don't get to change the definition of words.",
">\n\nIn America we have white supremacist domestic terrorists as our biggest threat now",
">\n\nThe closer the date is to 09/11/2001and greater the melanin content the skin of the POTUS the more it matters according to the US right wing.",
">\n\nKurds in Syria helped crush Isis before Trump abandoned them. We pulled out of the middle east as well which was a large part of their hatred of us. Right wing extremists in America are also a far larger and still growing threat. They've been attacking Democrats, and FBI offices as well as trying to overthrow our democracy.",
">\n\nI mean, we just took out a leader in somolia like a week or so ago. You can google isis news... it's just not as prevalent in the news cycle. Probably got lots of monitoring systems going on in the background (obv) but ya know... now it's all Russia Russia Russia, wqr in Ukraine. Now there's the chinese balloon and whoever all is in cahoots over there."
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If the FBI was doing its job then January 6 would have never happened. The insurrectionists were being very open about what they wanted to do for weeks beforehand.
Edit: Also, the FBI are white nationalists. | [
"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
">\n\nI would classify it as intra-islamic terrorism.",
">\n\nI’m really not looking forward to having to deal with “Post-Modern Islamic Terrorism.”",
">\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\nThe biggest potential threat for Islamist (not Islamic, there's a difference) terrorism in the west post-9/11 was almost always \"lone wolf\" attacks against soft targets.\nWell, the decisive action against ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, and similar organizations both crippled their ability to fund such operations, diminished their reach via social media, and severely crippled their leadership structures. After all, nobody wants to take an afternoon drive and get hit with a slap chop missile that doesn't leave enough left to fill a doggy bag.",
">\n\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\n\nI'd edit that to the US, not the west. Europe has issues still, though they are less than years past as we have mostly destroyed the large organizations.",
">\n\nISIS is now only a shell of what it was before. After government forces recaptured Mosul, that was pretty much its last stand. It became relegated to being tiny and extremely demoralized fighting cells in the desert. Less war like conditions now and therefore less people being displaced. Many of the people who went there to fight with ISIS have become disillusioned after seeing ISIS for what it was. They are either being prosecuted in their home countries or rendered stateless after leaders of various countries have revoked their citizenships. \nToday, Iraq has entered a period of relative stability after ISIS had been significantly weakened and US forces being ejected by the Iraqi government. Syrians are still leaving Assad's regime, albeit at smaller numbers than before. Boko Haram's leader has been killed and its camps have been destroyed.\nA huge but here... Al-Shabaab is still a major concern but more as a domestic concern. Every year, there are several attacks in Mogadishu and other cities throughout Somalia.",
">\n\nI would add that a group of militants attacks Southern Tanzania and northern Mozambique.",
">\n\nI'm actually not sure they are gone but they're definitely in retreat. USA and friends capped a lot of their leadership. They're either in retreat and rebuilding, or just done. I can't answer for Europe but I can also say that the focus in the USA is shifting to domestic terror.\nSorry if my response is too brief. I don't believe the answers are that complex. Religious government is on the rise, authoritarianism also, so they're busy at home. Oppressing the women.",
">\n\nI believe this is what it is too. Focus has shifted.",
">\n\nBecause ISIS was destroyed. Tens of thousands of its fighters were annihilated. And more importantly, Saudi Arabia and the gulf states which exported fundamentalist Islamism are moderating a bit. \nIt’s still a major problem though, just not in the West. The Sahel for instance is constantly ravaged by Islamist violence and there was just recently a massive terror attack in Pakistan.",
">\n\nProbably mainly because there haven't been any major Islamist terror attacks lately, while our attention has been drawn away by all the other scary stuff happening. Also Al Qaeda and ISIS are only a shadow of their former selves by now.",
">\n\nHere in France, there's still several \"Islamic terrorism-adjacent\" murders each year - ie. acts carried out by mentally deranged people that have latched onto Islamism as a motivating idealogy - there was a mass stabbing in Gare du Nord about two weeks ago.",
">\n\nThat’s scary, and I don’t think we even heard about it over here",
">\n\nA) All the leaders are dead. \nB) They’ve probably seen all the chaos in the West over the past decade and realize attacking is a waste of time.",
">\n\nBecause there's a war on Christmas, CRT, the border, and litter boxes in schools happening instead. It will come around again. Our tiny brains can only deal with 3 or 4 drumbeats at a time.",
">\n\nThe GOP can't really harp on Islamic terrorism while American rightwing terrorists are on the uptick.",
">\n\nI think COVID is the thing you're missing. It kinda distracted everyone for a while, and it killed a lot more people than terrorists ever did. Terrorism was always a massively-overinflated threat for the US and Europe, so it was easy to ignore it when an actual threat came along.",
">\n\nNow it’s Christian nationalism that’s our biggest national threat. Go figure",
">\n\nEh, Christian extremists haven't flown two planes into skyscrapers or shot up an LGBT nightclub or bombed a stadium full of kids or beheaded a teacher because he dared to draw Jesus. I'd say we're a ways away from Christian nationalism being a threat.",
">\n\nNo. They bomb abortion clinics and attack liberals and democrats. They launch insurrections when their candidate loses. Christian extremists call for a real-life version of Gilead here in America. They are a much bigger threat than Islamic radicals because they're homegrown terrorists.",
">\n\nAnd my point is that a possible threat is far better than two planes crashing into the Twin Towers, which was an actual threat.",
">\n\nBut it’s not a threat now. It’s an event that happened two decades ago. To the point of the OP, this type of extremism is no longer viewed as a threat in America. Recent history suggests that terrorism in the US will much more likely be committed by right wing Americans instead. We shouldn’t need another OKC bombing scale attack to acknowledge that.",
">\n\nOnly if you bought into the media hype, especially Republican media that needs to instill fear and dread of the \"other\". I actually had a neighbor who was certain Obama would usher in an era of Sharia law in the US during that time period.\nI tried explaining that ISIS and other such extremist Islamic worldviews were medieval in nature, and incapable of successfully propagating (much) in the modern world. They would eventually just burn out on their own. Worldviews can get outcompeted by more successful ones, just like species can. The vast majority of modern people simply do not want to be beheaded (or ruled) by extremists of any religion or ideology. But too many people unquestionably absorb the narratives they hear on tv.\nAnd of course the US needs an enemy du jour to justify its $1T/year war budget. So the American people will always be heavily propagandized by the state (corporate) media to fear the designated \"terrorist\" group, so they don't ever ask if all that money might otherwise be spent on healthcare, a living wage, or some other unicorn and puppies fantasy like that.",
">\n\nI know your ass isn’t blaming the “republican media” when Obama literally drone strikes so many people we ran out of bombs",
">\n\nI’m sorry if I didn’t structure my essay as clearly as I intended. \nBoth sides of the US corporate media often push the same false narratives but for different purposes. The Republicans pushed “radical Islamic terrorism” because they hate and fear “foreign” people especially if they are “non Christian”. And because the Democrats are “soft on terror” and “want Sharia law”.\nThe Democrats pushed for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, and yes unquestioningly allowed Obama’s and then trump’s drone attacks, because “they attacked us on 9/11” and “they are the bad terrorists we must fight over there so they can’t blow us up here” as the pretext (which was also Bush Junior’s line of reasoning), but more truly because the military industrial complex needs liberals to keep paying them hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars every year. \nRepublicans basically hate and fear all Muslims (remember they cheered trump’s Muslim ban), while liberals are only afraid of the “extremist” Muslims that CNN and the NYT tell them to fear. But in both cases, most Americans lost their taste for endless war in the Middle East. It’s much easier to sell them on a new endless war in the Ukraine. Especially since Putin clearly also is a power hungry dictator who made the calculation that he could more easily maintain power as a “war president”, much as the calculation Cheney/Bush made when they decided to invade Iraq (remember George Tenet said it was going to be a “slam dunk” and then we were stuck there for a decade — but the people still re-elected the dumbest and most incompetent president we ever had up to that point). \nBoth political parties are the two wings of the capitalist corporatist militarist party that runs the United States. The American people (all of them regardless of affiliation, religious belief, and education level) are the most heavily propagandized people in the history of the world. The American people could have voted for someone who voted against the Iraq war and who has vocally been against arming the Saudi’s in their Yemen war (Bernie Sanders) in 2016 and then again in 2020 but they voted for the War Mongers of both parties, both times. The vast majority of all Americans would rather spend their hard earned money on keeping their military bloated, rather than giving themselves universal single-payer healthcare or a guaranteed livable wage.",
">\n\nEvery single media outlet pushed war. candi rice and Hilary Clinton were literally just on a podcast still talking about WMD. Every news outlet lied. Every politician lied. The republicans just wore it on their sleeve more and the dems were dropping bombs with HOPE on them.\nEdit: the DNC trashed Bernie’s campaign both times and he rolled over. There is no hope for an anti war party in America. Is there any legitimate pushback with Ukraine ? If you criticize the escalation you get attacked. Was the same thing after 9/11.",
">\n\nThe right wing wants everyone to fear transgender people now. They are the new \"other\" to hate.",
">\n\nMaGA Republicans and cancel culture crazies are probably the new terrorists while Islamists are sitting quietly in the back of the bus planning the next 9-11",
">\n\nCouple of reasons.\nFor starters, a lot of the big catalysts for \"Islamic terrorism\" are....busy.\nISIS' main branch is pretty focused on conflict within Afghanistan against the Taliban and as such hasn't had a plethora of Western targets to strike at. Other ISIS franchises have been acting more locally in their country of origin.\nA lot of other networks have been pretty badly crippled by ongoing counter-terrorism efforts and have scaled back or shifted operations. As much of a pig's breakfast as the US has made of terrorism screening and control efforts at the domestic level, we've had a number of years to refine things and get it right enough that we can catch most of the problems headed our way. At least the problems with the backing of actual organizations/networks.\nSimilarly, the US is out(ish) of Afghanistan and Iraq which means we're just not there to be the target of attacks or enflame sentiment towards us that makes us the target of attacks. We're just less exposed than we used to be.\nThe conflict media cycle has also been living and breathing Ukraine for a year now which has taken a lot of wind out of the attention sails for Islamic fundamentalist terrorism.",
">\n\nIt only seems that way if you are an American. If you are a European especially a French, however, jihadism and Islamism are constant threats that need to be destroyed. After the beheading of French schoolteacher Samuel Paty in October 2020, the \"centrist\" French president Emmanuel Macron and his government finally had enough and have unleashed a huge campaign against the enemies they refer to as Islamo-leftism and Islamist separatism.\nOf course, the liberal media in the United States and the UK hate what the French have been doing. The New York Times even published this opinion article victim blaming the French.\nColor-blind France will not tolerate any challenge to its secular and democratic Republican values including Muslim children. All French Muslims must uphold those values including the ban on hijabs.\nOverall, this is how the French view the paradox of tolerance and freedom of expression.\nEdit: Formatting",
">\n\nThat’s not Islamic terrorism that a coordinated attack by a subjugated and oppressed population in Israel.",
">\n\nTerrorism: \"the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.\" \nYou don't get to change the definition of words.",
">\n\nIn America we have white supremacist domestic terrorists as our biggest threat now",
">\n\nThe closer the date is to 09/11/2001and greater the melanin content the skin of the POTUS the more it matters according to the US right wing.",
">\n\nKurds in Syria helped crush Isis before Trump abandoned them. We pulled out of the middle east as well which was a large part of their hatred of us. Right wing extremists in America are also a far larger and still growing threat. They've been attacking Democrats, and FBI offices as well as trying to overthrow our democracy.",
">\n\nI mean, we just took out a leader in somolia like a week or so ago. You can google isis news... it's just not as prevalent in the news cycle. Probably got lots of monitoring systems going on in the background (obv) but ya know... now it's all Russia Russia Russia, wqr in Ukraine. Now there's the chinese balloon and whoever all is in cahoots over there.",
">\n\nBecause the FBI is doing a good job at it. Give them the powers to fight domestic terrorism and white supremacists, and I'll guarantee you, we will never see anything remotely resembling January 6 again."
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I would say that it's partly because in Europe, one strain of Islamic terrorism has essentially achieved all their goals.
Starting with the murder of Theo van Gogh, from 2004-2020, you had an ideologically coherent and very successful terrorism campaign by Islamic radicals against what they perceive as "blasphemy" in European media (most spectacularly including the Charlie Hebdo killings and Salman Rushdie but aside from that mostly much more lowkey and less flashy than other Islamic terrorism like the Bataclan attacks). They essentially completely succeeded shutting down the publication of "blasphemous images" in the mainstream press (nobody today thinks this is worth getting murdered over), and toning down the "blasphemy" more generally.
In some sense, it's a model for how well targeted terrorism with limited objectives can work. I would expect most ecoterrorist campaigns to follow a similar trajectory. | [
"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
">\n\nI would classify it as intra-islamic terrorism.",
">\n\nI’m really not looking forward to having to deal with “Post-Modern Islamic Terrorism.”",
">\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\nThe biggest potential threat for Islamist (not Islamic, there's a difference) terrorism in the west post-9/11 was almost always \"lone wolf\" attacks against soft targets.\nWell, the decisive action against ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, and similar organizations both crippled their ability to fund such operations, diminished their reach via social media, and severely crippled their leadership structures. After all, nobody wants to take an afternoon drive and get hit with a slap chop missile that doesn't leave enough left to fill a doggy bag.",
">\n\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\n\nI'd edit that to the US, not the west. Europe has issues still, though they are less than years past as we have mostly destroyed the large organizations.",
">\n\nISIS is now only a shell of what it was before. After government forces recaptured Mosul, that was pretty much its last stand. It became relegated to being tiny and extremely demoralized fighting cells in the desert. Less war like conditions now and therefore less people being displaced. Many of the people who went there to fight with ISIS have become disillusioned after seeing ISIS for what it was. They are either being prosecuted in their home countries or rendered stateless after leaders of various countries have revoked their citizenships. \nToday, Iraq has entered a period of relative stability after ISIS had been significantly weakened and US forces being ejected by the Iraqi government. Syrians are still leaving Assad's regime, albeit at smaller numbers than before. Boko Haram's leader has been killed and its camps have been destroyed.\nA huge but here... Al-Shabaab is still a major concern but more as a domestic concern. Every year, there are several attacks in Mogadishu and other cities throughout Somalia.",
">\n\nI would add that a group of militants attacks Southern Tanzania and northern Mozambique.",
">\n\nI'm actually not sure they are gone but they're definitely in retreat. USA and friends capped a lot of their leadership. They're either in retreat and rebuilding, or just done. I can't answer for Europe but I can also say that the focus in the USA is shifting to domestic terror.\nSorry if my response is too brief. I don't believe the answers are that complex. Religious government is on the rise, authoritarianism also, so they're busy at home. Oppressing the women.",
">\n\nI believe this is what it is too. Focus has shifted.",
">\n\nBecause ISIS was destroyed. Tens of thousands of its fighters were annihilated. And more importantly, Saudi Arabia and the gulf states which exported fundamentalist Islamism are moderating a bit. \nIt’s still a major problem though, just not in the West. The Sahel for instance is constantly ravaged by Islamist violence and there was just recently a massive terror attack in Pakistan.",
">\n\nProbably mainly because there haven't been any major Islamist terror attacks lately, while our attention has been drawn away by all the other scary stuff happening. Also Al Qaeda and ISIS are only a shadow of their former selves by now.",
">\n\nHere in France, there's still several \"Islamic terrorism-adjacent\" murders each year - ie. acts carried out by mentally deranged people that have latched onto Islamism as a motivating idealogy - there was a mass stabbing in Gare du Nord about two weeks ago.",
">\n\nThat’s scary, and I don’t think we even heard about it over here",
">\n\nA) All the leaders are dead. \nB) They’ve probably seen all the chaos in the West over the past decade and realize attacking is a waste of time.",
">\n\nBecause there's a war on Christmas, CRT, the border, and litter boxes in schools happening instead. It will come around again. Our tiny brains can only deal with 3 or 4 drumbeats at a time.",
">\n\nThe GOP can't really harp on Islamic terrorism while American rightwing terrorists are on the uptick.",
">\n\nI think COVID is the thing you're missing. It kinda distracted everyone for a while, and it killed a lot more people than terrorists ever did. Terrorism was always a massively-overinflated threat for the US and Europe, so it was easy to ignore it when an actual threat came along.",
">\n\nNow it’s Christian nationalism that’s our biggest national threat. Go figure",
">\n\nEh, Christian extremists haven't flown two planes into skyscrapers or shot up an LGBT nightclub or bombed a stadium full of kids or beheaded a teacher because he dared to draw Jesus. I'd say we're a ways away from Christian nationalism being a threat.",
">\n\nNo. They bomb abortion clinics and attack liberals and democrats. They launch insurrections when their candidate loses. Christian extremists call for a real-life version of Gilead here in America. They are a much bigger threat than Islamic radicals because they're homegrown terrorists.",
">\n\nAnd my point is that a possible threat is far better than two planes crashing into the Twin Towers, which was an actual threat.",
">\n\nBut it’s not a threat now. It’s an event that happened two decades ago. To the point of the OP, this type of extremism is no longer viewed as a threat in America. Recent history suggests that terrorism in the US will much more likely be committed by right wing Americans instead. We shouldn’t need another OKC bombing scale attack to acknowledge that.",
">\n\nOnly if you bought into the media hype, especially Republican media that needs to instill fear and dread of the \"other\". I actually had a neighbor who was certain Obama would usher in an era of Sharia law in the US during that time period.\nI tried explaining that ISIS and other such extremist Islamic worldviews were medieval in nature, and incapable of successfully propagating (much) in the modern world. They would eventually just burn out on their own. Worldviews can get outcompeted by more successful ones, just like species can. The vast majority of modern people simply do not want to be beheaded (or ruled) by extremists of any religion or ideology. But too many people unquestionably absorb the narratives they hear on tv.\nAnd of course the US needs an enemy du jour to justify its $1T/year war budget. So the American people will always be heavily propagandized by the state (corporate) media to fear the designated \"terrorist\" group, so they don't ever ask if all that money might otherwise be spent on healthcare, a living wage, or some other unicorn and puppies fantasy like that.",
">\n\nI know your ass isn’t blaming the “republican media” when Obama literally drone strikes so many people we ran out of bombs",
">\n\nI’m sorry if I didn’t structure my essay as clearly as I intended. \nBoth sides of the US corporate media often push the same false narratives but for different purposes. The Republicans pushed “radical Islamic terrorism” because they hate and fear “foreign” people especially if they are “non Christian”. And because the Democrats are “soft on terror” and “want Sharia law”.\nThe Democrats pushed for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, and yes unquestioningly allowed Obama’s and then trump’s drone attacks, because “they attacked us on 9/11” and “they are the bad terrorists we must fight over there so they can’t blow us up here” as the pretext (which was also Bush Junior’s line of reasoning), but more truly because the military industrial complex needs liberals to keep paying them hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars every year. \nRepublicans basically hate and fear all Muslims (remember they cheered trump’s Muslim ban), while liberals are only afraid of the “extremist” Muslims that CNN and the NYT tell them to fear. But in both cases, most Americans lost their taste for endless war in the Middle East. It’s much easier to sell them on a new endless war in the Ukraine. Especially since Putin clearly also is a power hungry dictator who made the calculation that he could more easily maintain power as a “war president”, much as the calculation Cheney/Bush made when they decided to invade Iraq (remember George Tenet said it was going to be a “slam dunk” and then we were stuck there for a decade — but the people still re-elected the dumbest and most incompetent president we ever had up to that point). \nBoth political parties are the two wings of the capitalist corporatist militarist party that runs the United States. The American people (all of them regardless of affiliation, religious belief, and education level) are the most heavily propagandized people in the history of the world. The American people could have voted for someone who voted against the Iraq war and who has vocally been against arming the Saudi’s in their Yemen war (Bernie Sanders) in 2016 and then again in 2020 but they voted for the War Mongers of both parties, both times. The vast majority of all Americans would rather spend their hard earned money on keeping their military bloated, rather than giving themselves universal single-payer healthcare or a guaranteed livable wage.",
">\n\nEvery single media outlet pushed war. candi rice and Hilary Clinton were literally just on a podcast still talking about WMD. Every news outlet lied. Every politician lied. The republicans just wore it on their sleeve more and the dems were dropping bombs with HOPE on them.\nEdit: the DNC trashed Bernie’s campaign both times and he rolled over. There is no hope for an anti war party in America. Is there any legitimate pushback with Ukraine ? If you criticize the escalation you get attacked. Was the same thing after 9/11.",
">\n\nThe right wing wants everyone to fear transgender people now. They are the new \"other\" to hate.",
">\n\nMaGA Republicans and cancel culture crazies are probably the new terrorists while Islamists are sitting quietly in the back of the bus planning the next 9-11",
">\n\nCouple of reasons.\nFor starters, a lot of the big catalysts for \"Islamic terrorism\" are....busy.\nISIS' main branch is pretty focused on conflict within Afghanistan against the Taliban and as such hasn't had a plethora of Western targets to strike at. Other ISIS franchises have been acting more locally in their country of origin.\nA lot of other networks have been pretty badly crippled by ongoing counter-terrorism efforts and have scaled back or shifted operations. As much of a pig's breakfast as the US has made of terrorism screening and control efforts at the domestic level, we've had a number of years to refine things and get it right enough that we can catch most of the problems headed our way. At least the problems with the backing of actual organizations/networks.\nSimilarly, the US is out(ish) of Afghanistan and Iraq which means we're just not there to be the target of attacks or enflame sentiment towards us that makes us the target of attacks. We're just less exposed than we used to be.\nThe conflict media cycle has also been living and breathing Ukraine for a year now which has taken a lot of wind out of the attention sails for Islamic fundamentalist terrorism.",
">\n\nIt only seems that way if you are an American. If you are a European especially a French, however, jihadism and Islamism are constant threats that need to be destroyed. After the beheading of French schoolteacher Samuel Paty in October 2020, the \"centrist\" French president Emmanuel Macron and his government finally had enough and have unleashed a huge campaign against the enemies they refer to as Islamo-leftism and Islamist separatism.\nOf course, the liberal media in the United States and the UK hate what the French have been doing. The New York Times even published this opinion article victim blaming the French.\nColor-blind France will not tolerate any challenge to its secular and democratic Republican values including Muslim children. All French Muslims must uphold those values including the ban on hijabs.\nOverall, this is how the French view the paradox of tolerance and freedom of expression.\nEdit: Formatting",
">\n\nThat’s not Islamic terrorism that a coordinated attack by a subjugated and oppressed population in Israel.",
">\n\nTerrorism: \"the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.\" \nYou don't get to change the definition of words.",
">\n\nIn America we have white supremacist domestic terrorists as our biggest threat now",
">\n\nThe closer the date is to 09/11/2001and greater the melanin content the skin of the POTUS the more it matters according to the US right wing.",
">\n\nKurds in Syria helped crush Isis before Trump abandoned them. We pulled out of the middle east as well which was a large part of their hatred of us. Right wing extremists in America are also a far larger and still growing threat. They've been attacking Democrats, and FBI offices as well as trying to overthrow our democracy.",
">\n\nI mean, we just took out a leader in somolia like a week or so ago. You can google isis news... it's just not as prevalent in the news cycle. Probably got lots of monitoring systems going on in the background (obv) but ya know... now it's all Russia Russia Russia, wqr in Ukraine. Now there's the chinese balloon and whoever all is in cahoots over there.",
">\n\nBecause the FBI is doing a good job at it. Give them the powers to fight domestic terrorism and white supremacists, and I'll guarantee you, we will never see anything remotely resembling January 6 again.",
">\n\nIf the FBI was doing its job then January 6 would have never happened. The insurrectionists were being very open about what they wanted to do for weeks beforehand.\nEdit: Also, the FBI are white nationalists."
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I don't know if I can agree to quite that level of hyperbole, but it does seem like Islam focused on simply moving its influence into Europe rather than trying to fight the U.S. Countries like France seem to have much more of an Islamic influence than they did 20 or even 10 years ago, much to their detriment. It's a garbage ideology. | [
"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
">\n\nI would classify it as intra-islamic terrorism.",
">\n\nI’m really not looking forward to having to deal with “Post-Modern Islamic Terrorism.”",
">\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\nThe biggest potential threat for Islamist (not Islamic, there's a difference) terrorism in the west post-9/11 was almost always \"lone wolf\" attacks against soft targets.\nWell, the decisive action against ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, and similar organizations both crippled their ability to fund such operations, diminished their reach via social media, and severely crippled their leadership structures. After all, nobody wants to take an afternoon drive and get hit with a slap chop missile that doesn't leave enough left to fill a doggy bag.",
">\n\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\n\nI'd edit that to the US, not the west. Europe has issues still, though they are less than years past as we have mostly destroyed the large organizations.",
">\n\nISIS is now only a shell of what it was before. After government forces recaptured Mosul, that was pretty much its last stand. It became relegated to being tiny and extremely demoralized fighting cells in the desert. Less war like conditions now and therefore less people being displaced. Many of the people who went there to fight with ISIS have become disillusioned after seeing ISIS for what it was. They are either being prosecuted in their home countries or rendered stateless after leaders of various countries have revoked their citizenships. \nToday, Iraq has entered a period of relative stability after ISIS had been significantly weakened and US forces being ejected by the Iraqi government. Syrians are still leaving Assad's regime, albeit at smaller numbers than before. Boko Haram's leader has been killed and its camps have been destroyed.\nA huge but here... Al-Shabaab is still a major concern but more as a domestic concern. Every year, there are several attacks in Mogadishu and other cities throughout Somalia.",
">\n\nI would add that a group of militants attacks Southern Tanzania and northern Mozambique.",
">\n\nI'm actually not sure they are gone but they're definitely in retreat. USA and friends capped a lot of their leadership. They're either in retreat and rebuilding, or just done. I can't answer for Europe but I can also say that the focus in the USA is shifting to domestic terror.\nSorry if my response is too brief. I don't believe the answers are that complex. Religious government is on the rise, authoritarianism also, so they're busy at home. Oppressing the women.",
">\n\nI believe this is what it is too. Focus has shifted.",
">\n\nBecause ISIS was destroyed. Tens of thousands of its fighters were annihilated. And more importantly, Saudi Arabia and the gulf states which exported fundamentalist Islamism are moderating a bit. \nIt’s still a major problem though, just not in the West. The Sahel for instance is constantly ravaged by Islamist violence and there was just recently a massive terror attack in Pakistan.",
">\n\nProbably mainly because there haven't been any major Islamist terror attacks lately, while our attention has been drawn away by all the other scary stuff happening. Also Al Qaeda and ISIS are only a shadow of their former selves by now.",
">\n\nHere in France, there's still several \"Islamic terrorism-adjacent\" murders each year - ie. acts carried out by mentally deranged people that have latched onto Islamism as a motivating idealogy - there was a mass stabbing in Gare du Nord about two weeks ago.",
">\n\nThat’s scary, and I don’t think we even heard about it over here",
">\n\nA) All the leaders are dead. \nB) They’ve probably seen all the chaos in the West over the past decade and realize attacking is a waste of time.",
">\n\nBecause there's a war on Christmas, CRT, the border, and litter boxes in schools happening instead. It will come around again. Our tiny brains can only deal with 3 or 4 drumbeats at a time.",
">\n\nThe GOP can't really harp on Islamic terrorism while American rightwing terrorists are on the uptick.",
">\n\nI think COVID is the thing you're missing. It kinda distracted everyone for a while, and it killed a lot more people than terrorists ever did. Terrorism was always a massively-overinflated threat for the US and Europe, so it was easy to ignore it when an actual threat came along.",
">\n\nNow it’s Christian nationalism that’s our biggest national threat. Go figure",
">\n\nEh, Christian extremists haven't flown two planes into skyscrapers or shot up an LGBT nightclub or bombed a stadium full of kids or beheaded a teacher because he dared to draw Jesus. I'd say we're a ways away from Christian nationalism being a threat.",
">\n\nNo. They bomb abortion clinics and attack liberals and democrats. They launch insurrections when their candidate loses. Christian extremists call for a real-life version of Gilead here in America. They are a much bigger threat than Islamic radicals because they're homegrown terrorists.",
">\n\nAnd my point is that a possible threat is far better than two planes crashing into the Twin Towers, which was an actual threat.",
">\n\nBut it’s not a threat now. It’s an event that happened two decades ago. To the point of the OP, this type of extremism is no longer viewed as a threat in America. Recent history suggests that terrorism in the US will much more likely be committed by right wing Americans instead. We shouldn’t need another OKC bombing scale attack to acknowledge that.",
">\n\nOnly if you bought into the media hype, especially Republican media that needs to instill fear and dread of the \"other\". I actually had a neighbor who was certain Obama would usher in an era of Sharia law in the US during that time period.\nI tried explaining that ISIS and other such extremist Islamic worldviews were medieval in nature, and incapable of successfully propagating (much) in the modern world. They would eventually just burn out on their own. Worldviews can get outcompeted by more successful ones, just like species can. The vast majority of modern people simply do not want to be beheaded (or ruled) by extremists of any religion or ideology. But too many people unquestionably absorb the narratives they hear on tv.\nAnd of course the US needs an enemy du jour to justify its $1T/year war budget. So the American people will always be heavily propagandized by the state (corporate) media to fear the designated \"terrorist\" group, so they don't ever ask if all that money might otherwise be spent on healthcare, a living wage, or some other unicorn and puppies fantasy like that.",
">\n\nI know your ass isn’t blaming the “republican media” when Obama literally drone strikes so many people we ran out of bombs",
">\n\nI’m sorry if I didn’t structure my essay as clearly as I intended. \nBoth sides of the US corporate media often push the same false narratives but for different purposes. The Republicans pushed “radical Islamic terrorism” because they hate and fear “foreign” people especially if they are “non Christian”. And because the Democrats are “soft on terror” and “want Sharia law”.\nThe Democrats pushed for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, and yes unquestioningly allowed Obama’s and then trump’s drone attacks, because “they attacked us on 9/11” and “they are the bad terrorists we must fight over there so they can’t blow us up here” as the pretext (which was also Bush Junior’s line of reasoning), but more truly because the military industrial complex needs liberals to keep paying them hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars every year. \nRepublicans basically hate and fear all Muslims (remember they cheered trump’s Muslim ban), while liberals are only afraid of the “extremist” Muslims that CNN and the NYT tell them to fear. But in both cases, most Americans lost their taste for endless war in the Middle East. It’s much easier to sell them on a new endless war in the Ukraine. Especially since Putin clearly also is a power hungry dictator who made the calculation that he could more easily maintain power as a “war president”, much as the calculation Cheney/Bush made when they decided to invade Iraq (remember George Tenet said it was going to be a “slam dunk” and then we were stuck there for a decade — but the people still re-elected the dumbest and most incompetent president we ever had up to that point). \nBoth political parties are the two wings of the capitalist corporatist militarist party that runs the United States. The American people (all of them regardless of affiliation, religious belief, and education level) are the most heavily propagandized people in the history of the world. The American people could have voted for someone who voted against the Iraq war and who has vocally been against arming the Saudi’s in their Yemen war (Bernie Sanders) in 2016 and then again in 2020 but they voted for the War Mongers of both parties, both times. The vast majority of all Americans would rather spend their hard earned money on keeping their military bloated, rather than giving themselves universal single-payer healthcare or a guaranteed livable wage.",
">\n\nEvery single media outlet pushed war. candi rice and Hilary Clinton were literally just on a podcast still talking about WMD. Every news outlet lied. Every politician lied. The republicans just wore it on their sleeve more and the dems were dropping bombs with HOPE on them.\nEdit: the DNC trashed Bernie’s campaign both times and he rolled over. There is no hope for an anti war party in America. Is there any legitimate pushback with Ukraine ? If you criticize the escalation you get attacked. Was the same thing after 9/11.",
">\n\nThe right wing wants everyone to fear transgender people now. They are the new \"other\" to hate.",
">\n\nMaGA Republicans and cancel culture crazies are probably the new terrorists while Islamists are sitting quietly in the back of the bus planning the next 9-11",
">\n\nCouple of reasons.\nFor starters, a lot of the big catalysts for \"Islamic terrorism\" are....busy.\nISIS' main branch is pretty focused on conflict within Afghanistan against the Taliban and as such hasn't had a plethora of Western targets to strike at. Other ISIS franchises have been acting more locally in their country of origin.\nA lot of other networks have been pretty badly crippled by ongoing counter-terrorism efforts and have scaled back or shifted operations. As much of a pig's breakfast as the US has made of terrorism screening and control efforts at the domestic level, we've had a number of years to refine things and get it right enough that we can catch most of the problems headed our way. At least the problems with the backing of actual organizations/networks.\nSimilarly, the US is out(ish) of Afghanistan and Iraq which means we're just not there to be the target of attacks or enflame sentiment towards us that makes us the target of attacks. We're just less exposed than we used to be.\nThe conflict media cycle has also been living and breathing Ukraine for a year now which has taken a lot of wind out of the attention sails for Islamic fundamentalist terrorism.",
">\n\nIt only seems that way if you are an American. If you are a European especially a French, however, jihadism and Islamism are constant threats that need to be destroyed. After the beheading of French schoolteacher Samuel Paty in October 2020, the \"centrist\" French president Emmanuel Macron and his government finally had enough and have unleashed a huge campaign against the enemies they refer to as Islamo-leftism and Islamist separatism.\nOf course, the liberal media in the United States and the UK hate what the French have been doing. The New York Times even published this opinion article victim blaming the French.\nColor-blind France will not tolerate any challenge to its secular and democratic Republican values including Muslim children. All French Muslims must uphold those values including the ban on hijabs.\nOverall, this is how the French view the paradox of tolerance and freedom of expression.\nEdit: Formatting",
">\n\nThat’s not Islamic terrorism that a coordinated attack by a subjugated and oppressed population in Israel.",
">\n\nTerrorism: \"the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.\" \nYou don't get to change the definition of words.",
">\n\nIn America we have white supremacist domestic terrorists as our biggest threat now",
">\n\nThe closer the date is to 09/11/2001and greater the melanin content the skin of the POTUS the more it matters according to the US right wing.",
">\n\nKurds in Syria helped crush Isis before Trump abandoned them. We pulled out of the middle east as well which was a large part of their hatred of us. Right wing extremists in America are also a far larger and still growing threat. They've been attacking Democrats, and FBI offices as well as trying to overthrow our democracy.",
">\n\nI mean, we just took out a leader in somolia like a week or so ago. You can google isis news... it's just not as prevalent in the news cycle. Probably got lots of monitoring systems going on in the background (obv) but ya know... now it's all Russia Russia Russia, wqr in Ukraine. Now there's the chinese balloon and whoever all is in cahoots over there.",
">\n\nBecause the FBI is doing a good job at it. Give them the powers to fight domestic terrorism and white supremacists, and I'll guarantee you, we will never see anything remotely resembling January 6 again.",
">\n\nIf the FBI was doing its job then January 6 would have never happened. The insurrectionists were being very open about what they wanted to do for weeks beforehand.\nEdit: Also, the FBI are white nationalists.",
">\n\nI would say that it's partly because in Europe, one strain of Islamic terrorism has essentially achieved all their goals.\nStarting with the murder of Theo van Gogh, from 2004-2020, you had an ideologically coherent and very successful terrorism campaign by Islamic radicals against what they perceive as \"blasphemy\" in European media (most spectacularly including the Charlie Hebdo killings and Salman Rushdie but aside from that mostly much more lowkey and less flashy than other Islamic terrorism like the Bataclan attacks). They essentially completely succeeded shutting down the publication of \"blasphemous images\" in the mainstream press (nobody today thinks this is worth getting murdered over), and toning down the \"blasphemy\" more generally.\nIn some sense, it's a model for how well targeted terrorism with limited objectives can work. I would expect most ecoterrorist campaigns to follow a similar trajectory."
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In retrospect Islamic terrorism was hyped to justify plundering Middle Eastern resources and strengthen a global system of control. Apparently a better enemy was covid, its everywhere, invisible and can kill you at any time. | [
"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
">\n\nI would classify it as intra-islamic terrorism.",
">\n\nI’m really not looking forward to having to deal with “Post-Modern Islamic Terrorism.”",
">\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\nThe biggest potential threat for Islamist (not Islamic, there's a difference) terrorism in the west post-9/11 was almost always \"lone wolf\" attacks against soft targets.\nWell, the decisive action against ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, and similar organizations both crippled their ability to fund such operations, diminished their reach via social media, and severely crippled their leadership structures. After all, nobody wants to take an afternoon drive and get hit with a slap chop missile that doesn't leave enough left to fill a doggy bag.",
">\n\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\n\nI'd edit that to the US, not the west. Europe has issues still, though they are less than years past as we have mostly destroyed the large organizations.",
">\n\nISIS is now only a shell of what it was before. After government forces recaptured Mosul, that was pretty much its last stand. It became relegated to being tiny and extremely demoralized fighting cells in the desert. Less war like conditions now and therefore less people being displaced. Many of the people who went there to fight with ISIS have become disillusioned after seeing ISIS for what it was. They are either being prosecuted in their home countries or rendered stateless after leaders of various countries have revoked their citizenships. \nToday, Iraq has entered a period of relative stability after ISIS had been significantly weakened and US forces being ejected by the Iraqi government. Syrians are still leaving Assad's regime, albeit at smaller numbers than before. Boko Haram's leader has been killed and its camps have been destroyed.\nA huge but here... Al-Shabaab is still a major concern but more as a domestic concern. Every year, there are several attacks in Mogadishu and other cities throughout Somalia.",
">\n\nI would add that a group of militants attacks Southern Tanzania and northern Mozambique.",
">\n\nI'm actually not sure they are gone but they're definitely in retreat. USA and friends capped a lot of their leadership. They're either in retreat and rebuilding, or just done. I can't answer for Europe but I can also say that the focus in the USA is shifting to domestic terror.\nSorry if my response is too brief. I don't believe the answers are that complex. Religious government is on the rise, authoritarianism also, so they're busy at home. Oppressing the women.",
">\n\nI believe this is what it is too. Focus has shifted.",
">\n\nBecause ISIS was destroyed. Tens of thousands of its fighters were annihilated. And more importantly, Saudi Arabia and the gulf states which exported fundamentalist Islamism are moderating a bit. \nIt’s still a major problem though, just not in the West. The Sahel for instance is constantly ravaged by Islamist violence and there was just recently a massive terror attack in Pakistan.",
">\n\nProbably mainly because there haven't been any major Islamist terror attacks lately, while our attention has been drawn away by all the other scary stuff happening. Also Al Qaeda and ISIS are only a shadow of their former selves by now.",
">\n\nHere in France, there's still several \"Islamic terrorism-adjacent\" murders each year - ie. acts carried out by mentally deranged people that have latched onto Islamism as a motivating idealogy - there was a mass stabbing in Gare du Nord about two weeks ago.",
">\n\nThat’s scary, and I don’t think we even heard about it over here",
">\n\nA) All the leaders are dead. \nB) They’ve probably seen all the chaos in the West over the past decade and realize attacking is a waste of time.",
">\n\nBecause there's a war on Christmas, CRT, the border, and litter boxes in schools happening instead. It will come around again. Our tiny brains can only deal with 3 or 4 drumbeats at a time.",
">\n\nThe GOP can't really harp on Islamic terrorism while American rightwing terrorists are on the uptick.",
">\n\nI think COVID is the thing you're missing. It kinda distracted everyone for a while, and it killed a lot more people than terrorists ever did. Terrorism was always a massively-overinflated threat for the US and Europe, so it was easy to ignore it when an actual threat came along.",
">\n\nNow it’s Christian nationalism that’s our biggest national threat. Go figure",
">\n\nEh, Christian extremists haven't flown two planes into skyscrapers or shot up an LGBT nightclub or bombed a stadium full of kids or beheaded a teacher because he dared to draw Jesus. I'd say we're a ways away from Christian nationalism being a threat.",
">\n\nNo. They bomb abortion clinics and attack liberals and democrats. They launch insurrections when their candidate loses. Christian extremists call for a real-life version of Gilead here in America. They are a much bigger threat than Islamic radicals because they're homegrown terrorists.",
">\n\nAnd my point is that a possible threat is far better than two planes crashing into the Twin Towers, which was an actual threat.",
">\n\nBut it’s not a threat now. It’s an event that happened two decades ago. To the point of the OP, this type of extremism is no longer viewed as a threat in America. Recent history suggests that terrorism in the US will much more likely be committed by right wing Americans instead. We shouldn’t need another OKC bombing scale attack to acknowledge that.",
">\n\nOnly if you bought into the media hype, especially Republican media that needs to instill fear and dread of the \"other\". I actually had a neighbor who was certain Obama would usher in an era of Sharia law in the US during that time period.\nI tried explaining that ISIS and other such extremist Islamic worldviews were medieval in nature, and incapable of successfully propagating (much) in the modern world. They would eventually just burn out on their own. Worldviews can get outcompeted by more successful ones, just like species can. The vast majority of modern people simply do not want to be beheaded (or ruled) by extremists of any religion or ideology. But too many people unquestionably absorb the narratives they hear on tv.\nAnd of course the US needs an enemy du jour to justify its $1T/year war budget. So the American people will always be heavily propagandized by the state (corporate) media to fear the designated \"terrorist\" group, so they don't ever ask if all that money might otherwise be spent on healthcare, a living wage, or some other unicorn and puppies fantasy like that.",
">\n\nI know your ass isn’t blaming the “republican media” when Obama literally drone strikes so many people we ran out of bombs",
">\n\nI’m sorry if I didn’t structure my essay as clearly as I intended. \nBoth sides of the US corporate media often push the same false narratives but for different purposes. The Republicans pushed “radical Islamic terrorism” because they hate and fear “foreign” people especially if they are “non Christian”. And because the Democrats are “soft on terror” and “want Sharia law”.\nThe Democrats pushed for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, and yes unquestioningly allowed Obama’s and then trump’s drone attacks, because “they attacked us on 9/11” and “they are the bad terrorists we must fight over there so they can’t blow us up here” as the pretext (which was also Bush Junior’s line of reasoning), but more truly because the military industrial complex needs liberals to keep paying them hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars every year. \nRepublicans basically hate and fear all Muslims (remember they cheered trump’s Muslim ban), while liberals are only afraid of the “extremist” Muslims that CNN and the NYT tell them to fear. But in both cases, most Americans lost their taste for endless war in the Middle East. It’s much easier to sell them on a new endless war in the Ukraine. Especially since Putin clearly also is a power hungry dictator who made the calculation that he could more easily maintain power as a “war president”, much as the calculation Cheney/Bush made when they decided to invade Iraq (remember George Tenet said it was going to be a “slam dunk” and then we were stuck there for a decade — but the people still re-elected the dumbest and most incompetent president we ever had up to that point). \nBoth political parties are the two wings of the capitalist corporatist militarist party that runs the United States. The American people (all of them regardless of affiliation, religious belief, and education level) are the most heavily propagandized people in the history of the world. The American people could have voted for someone who voted against the Iraq war and who has vocally been against arming the Saudi’s in their Yemen war (Bernie Sanders) in 2016 and then again in 2020 but they voted for the War Mongers of both parties, both times. The vast majority of all Americans would rather spend their hard earned money on keeping their military bloated, rather than giving themselves universal single-payer healthcare or a guaranteed livable wage.",
">\n\nEvery single media outlet pushed war. candi rice and Hilary Clinton were literally just on a podcast still talking about WMD. Every news outlet lied. Every politician lied. The republicans just wore it on their sleeve more and the dems were dropping bombs with HOPE on them.\nEdit: the DNC trashed Bernie’s campaign both times and he rolled over. There is no hope for an anti war party in America. Is there any legitimate pushback with Ukraine ? If you criticize the escalation you get attacked. Was the same thing after 9/11.",
">\n\nThe right wing wants everyone to fear transgender people now. They are the new \"other\" to hate.",
">\n\nMaGA Republicans and cancel culture crazies are probably the new terrorists while Islamists are sitting quietly in the back of the bus planning the next 9-11",
">\n\nCouple of reasons.\nFor starters, a lot of the big catalysts for \"Islamic terrorism\" are....busy.\nISIS' main branch is pretty focused on conflict within Afghanistan against the Taliban and as such hasn't had a plethora of Western targets to strike at. Other ISIS franchises have been acting more locally in their country of origin.\nA lot of other networks have been pretty badly crippled by ongoing counter-terrorism efforts and have scaled back or shifted operations. As much of a pig's breakfast as the US has made of terrorism screening and control efforts at the domestic level, we've had a number of years to refine things and get it right enough that we can catch most of the problems headed our way. At least the problems with the backing of actual organizations/networks.\nSimilarly, the US is out(ish) of Afghanistan and Iraq which means we're just not there to be the target of attacks or enflame sentiment towards us that makes us the target of attacks. We're just less exposed than we used to be.\nThe conflict media cycle has also been living and breathing Ukraine for a year now which has taken a lot of wind out of the attention sails for Islamic fundamentalist terrorism.",
">\n\nIt only seems that way if you are an American. If you are a European especially a French, however, jihadism and Islamism are constant threats that need to be destroyed. After the beheading of French schoolteacher Samuel Paty in October 2020, the \"centrist\" French president Emmanuel Macron and his government finally had enough and have unleashed a huge campaign against the enemies they refer to as Islamo-leftism and Islamist separatism.\nOf course, the liberal media in the United States and the UK hate what the French have been doing. The New York Times even published this opinion article victim blaming the French.\nColor-blind France will not tolerate any challenge to its secular and democratic Republican values including Muslim children. All French Muslims must uphold those values including the ban on hijabs.\nOverall, this is how the French view the paradox of tolerance and freedom of expression.\nEdit: Formatting",
">\n\nThat’s not Islamic terrorism that a coordinated attack by a subjugated and oppressed population in Israel.",
">\n\nTerrorism: \"the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.\" \nYou don't get to change the definition of words.",
">\n\nIn America we have white supremacist domestic terrorists as our biggest threat now",
">\n\nThe closer the date is to 09/11/2001and greater the melanin content the skin of the POTUS the more it matters according to the US right wing.",
">\n\nKurds in Syria helped crush Isis before Trump abandoned them. We pulled out of the middle east as well which was a large part of their hatred of us. Right wing extremists in America are also a far larger and still growing threat. They've been attacking Democrats, and FBI offices as well as trying to overthrow our democracy.",
">\n\nI mean, we just took out a leader in somolia like a week or so ago. You can google isis news... it's just not as prevalent in the news cycle. Probably got lots of monitoring systems going on in the background (obv) but ya know... now it's all Russia Russia Russia, wqr in Ukraine. Now there's the chinese balloon and whoever all is in cahoots over there.",
">\n\nBecause the FBI is doing a good job at it. Give them the powers to fight domestic terrorism and white supremacists, and I'll guarantee you, we will never see anything remotely resembling January 6 again.",
">\n\nIf the FBI was doing its job then January 6 would have never happened. The insurrectionists were being very open about what they wanted to do for weeks beforehand.\nEdit: Also, the FBI are white nationalists.",
">\n\nI would say that it's partly because in Europe, one strain of Islamic terrorism has essentially achieved all their goals.\nStarting with the murder of Theo van Gogh, from 2004-2020, you had an ideologically coherent and very successful terrorism campaign by Islamic radicals against what they perceive as \"blasphemy\" in European media (most spectacularly including the Charlie Hebdo killings and Salman Rushdie but aside from that mostly much more lowkey and less flashy than other Islamic terrorism like the Bataclan attacks). They essentially completely succeeded shutting down the publication of \"blasphemous images\" in the mainstream press (nobody today thinks this is worth getting murdered over), and toning down the \"blasphemy\" more generally.\nIn some sense, it's a model for how well targeted terrorism with limited objectives can work. I would expect most ecoterrorist campaigns to follow a similar trajectory.",
">\n\nI don't know if I can agree to quite that level of hyperbole, but it does seem like Islam focused on simply moving its influence into Europe rather than trying to fight the U.S. Countries like France seem to have much more of an Islamic influence than they did 20 or even 10 years ago, much to their detriment. It's a garbage ideology."
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"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
">\n\nI would classify it as intra-islamic terrorism.",
">\n\nI’m really not looking forward to having to deal with “Post-Modern Islamic Terrorism.”",
">\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\nThe biggest potential threat for Islamist (not Islamic, there's a difference) terrorism in the west post-9/11 was almost always \"lone wolf\" attacks against soft targets.\nWell, the decisive action against ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, and similar organizations both crippled their ability to fund such operations, diminished their reach via social media, and severely crippled their leadership structures. After all, nobody wants to take an afternoon drive and get hit with a slap chop missile that doesn't leave enough left to fill a doggy bag.",
">\n\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\n\nI'd edit that to the US, not the west. Europe has issues still, though they are less than years past as we have mostly destroyed the large organizations.",
">\n\nISIS is now only a shell of what it was before. After government forces recaptured Mosul, that was pretty much its last stand. It became relegated to being tiny and extremely demoralized fighting cells in the desert. Less war like conditions now and therefore less people being displaced. Many of the people who went there to fight with ISIS have become disillusioned after seeing ISIS for what it was. They are either being prosecuted in their home countries or rendered stateless after leaders of various countries have revoked their citizenships. \nToday, Iraq has entered a period of relative stability after ISIS had been significantly weakened and US forces being ejected by the Iraqi government. Syrians are still leaving Assad's regime, albeit at smaller numbers than before. Boko Haram's leader has been killed and its camps have been destroyed.\nA huge but here... Al-Shabaab is still a major concern but more as a domestic concern. Every year, there are several attacks in Mogadishu and other cities throughout Somalia.",
">\n\nI would add that a group of militants attacks Southern Tanzania and northern Mozambique.",
">\n\nI'm actually not sure they are gone but they're definitely in retreat. USA and friends capped a lot of their leadership. They're either in retreat and rebuilding, or just done. I can't answer for Europe but I can also say that the focus in the USA is shifting to domestic terror.\nSorry if my response is too brief. I don't believe the answers are that complex. Religious government is on the rise, authoritarianism also, so they're busy at home. Oppressing the women.",
">\n\nI believe this is what it is too. Focus has shifted.",
">\n\nBecause ISIS was destroyed. Tens of thousands of its fighters were annihilated. And more importantly, Saudi Arabia and the gulf states which exported fundamentalist Islamism are moderating a bit. \nIt’s still a major problem though, just not in the West. The Sahel for instance is constantly ravaged by Islamist violence and there was just recently a massive terror attack in Pakistan.",
">\n\nProbably mainly because there haven't been any major Islamist terror attacks lately, while our attention has been drawn away by all the other scary stuff happening. Also Al Qaeda and ISIS are only a shadow of their former selves by now.",
">\n\nHere in France, there's still several \"Islamic terrorism-adjacent\" murders each year - ie. acts carried out by mentally deranged people that have latched onto Islamism as a motivating idealogy - there was a mass stabbing in Gare du Nord about two weeks ago.",
">\n\nThat’s scary, and I don’t think we even heard about it over here",
">\n\nA) All the leaders are dead. \nB) They’ve probably seen all the chaos in the West over the past decade and realize attacking is a waste of time.",
">\n\nBecause there's a war on Christmas, CRT, the border, and litter boxes in schools happening instead. It will come around again. Our tiny brains can only deal with 3 or 4 drumbeats at a time.",
">\n\nThe GOP can't really harp on Islamic terrorism while American rightwing terrorists are on the uptick.",
">\n\nI think COVID is the thing you're missing. It kinda distracted everyone for a while, and it killed a lot more people than terrorists ever did. Terrorism was always a massively-overinflated threat for the US and Europe, so it was easy to ignore it when an actual threat came along.",
">\n\nNow it’s Christian nationalism that’s our biggest national threat. Go figure",
">\n\nEh, Christian extremists haven't flown two planes into skyscrapers or shot up an LGBT nightclub or bombed a stadium full of kids or beheaded a teacher because he dared to draw Jesus. I'd say we're a ways away from Christian nationalism being a threat.",
">\n\nNo. They bomb abortion clinics and attack liberals and democrats. They launch insurrections when their candidate loses. Christian extremists call for a real-life version of Gilead here in America. They are a much bigger threat than Islamic radicals because they're homegrown terrorists.",
">\n\nAnd my point is that a possible threat is far better than two planes crashing into the Twin Towers, which was an actual threat.",
">\n\nBut it’s not a threat now. It’s an event that happened two decades ago. To the point of the OP, this type of extremism is no longer viewed as a threat in America. Recent history suggests that terrorism in the US will much more likely be committed by right wing Americans instead. We shouldn’t need another OKC bombing scale attack to acknowledge that.",
">\n\nOnly if you bought into the media hype, especially Republican media that needs to instill fear and dread of the \"other\". I actually had a neighbor who was certain Obama would usher in an era of Sharia law in the US during that time period.\nI tried explaining that ISIS and other such extremist Islamic worldviews were medieval in nature, and incapable of successfully propagating (much) in the modern world. They would eventually just burn out on their own. Worldviews can get outcompeted by more successful ones, just like species can. The vast majority of modern people simply do not want to be beheaded (or ruled) by extremists of any religion or ideology. But too many people unquestionably absorb the narratives they hear on tv.\nAnd of course the US needs an enemy du jour to justify its $1T/year war budget. So the American people will always be heavily propagandized by the state (corporate) media to fear the designated \"terrorist\" group, so they don't ever ask if all that money might otherwise be spent on healthcare, a living wage, or some other unicorn and puppies fantasy like that.",
">\n\nI know your ass isn’t blaming the “republican media” when Obama literally drone strikes so many people we ran out of bombs",
">\n\nI’m sorry if I didn’t structure my essay as clearly as I intended. \nBoth sides of the US corporate media often push the same false narratives but for different purposes. The Republicans pushed “radical Islamic terrorism” because they hate and fear “foreign” people especially if they are “non Christian”. And because the Democrats are “soft on terror” and “want Sharia law”.\nThe Democrats pushed for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, and yes unquestioningly allowed Obama’s and then trump’s drone attacks, because “they attacked us on 9/11” and “they are the bad terrorists we must fight over there so they can’t blow us up here” as the pretext (which was also Bush Junior’s line of reasoning), but more truly because the military industrial complex needs liberals to keep paying them hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars every year. \nRepublicans basically hate and fear all Muslims (remember they cheered trump’s Muslim ban), while liberals are only afraid of the “extremist” Muslims that CNN and the NYT tell them to fear. But in both cases, most Americans lost their taste for endless war in the Middle East. It’s much easier to sell them on a new endless war in the Ukraine. Especially since Putin clearly also is a power hungry dictator who made the calculation that he could more easily maintain power as a “war president”, much as the calculation Cheney/Bush made when they decided to invade Iraq (remember George Tenet said it was going to be a “slam dunk” and then we were stuck there for a decade — but the people still re-elected the dumbest and most incompetent president we ever had up to that point). \nBoth political parties are the two wings of the capitalist corporatist militarist party that runs the United States. The American people (all of them regardless of affiliation, religious belief, and education level) are the most heavily propagandized people in the history of the world. The American people could have voted for someone who voted against the Iraq war and who has vocally been against arming the Saudi’s in their Yemen war (Bernie Sanders) in 2016 and then again in 2020 but they voted for the War Mongers of both parties, both times. The vast majority of all Americans would rather spend their hard earned money on keeping their military bloated, rather than giving themselves universal single-payer healthcare or a guaranteed livable wage.",
">\n\nEvery single media outlet pushed war. candi rice and Hilary Clinton were literally just on a podcast still talking about WMD. Every news outlet lied. Every politician lied. The republicans just wore it on their sleeve more and the dems were dropping bombs with HOPE on them.\nEdit: the DNC trashed Bernie’s campaign both times and he rolled over. There is no hope for an anti war party in America. Is there any legitimate pushback with Ukraine ? If you criticize the escalation you get attacked. Was the same thing after 9/11.",
">\n\nThe right wing wants everyone to fear transgender people now. They are the new \"other\" to hate.",
">\n\nMaGA Republicans and cancel culture crazies are probably the new terrorists while Islamists are sitting quietly in the back of the bus planning the next 9-11",
">\n\nCouple of reasons.\nFor starters, a lot of the big catalysts for \"Islamic terrorism\" are....busy.\nISIS' main branch is pretty focused on conflict within Afghanistan against the Taliban and as such hasn't had a plethora of Western targets to strike at. Other ISIS franchises have been acting more locally in their country of origin.\nA lot of other networks have been pretty badly crippled by ongoing counter-terrorism efforts and have scaled back or shifted operations. As much of a pig's breakfast as the US has made of terrorism screening and control efforts at the domestic level, we've had a number of years to refine things and get it right enough that we can catch most of the problems headed our way. At least the problems with the backing of actual organizations/networks.\nSimilarly, the US is out(ish) of Afghanistan and Iraq which means we're just not there to be the target of attacks or enflame sentiment towards us that makes us the target of attacks. We're just less exposed than we used to be.\nThe conflict media cycle has also been living and breathing Ukraine for a year now which has taken a lot of wind out of the attention sails for Islamic fundamentalist terrorism.",
">\n\nIt only seems that way if you are an American. If you are a European especially a French, however, jihadism and Islamism are constant threats that need to be destroyed. After the beheading of French schoolteacher Samuel Paty in October 2020, the \"centrist\" French president Emmanuel Macron and his government finally had enough and have unleashed a huge campaign against the enemies they refer to as Islamo-leftism and Islamist separatism.\nOf course, the liberal media in the United States and the UK hate what the French have been doing. The New York Times even published this opinion article victim blaming the French.\nColor-blind France will not tolerate any challenge to its secular and democratic Republican values including Muslim children. All French Muslims must uphold those values including the ban on hijabs.\nOverall, this is how the French view the paradox of tolerance and freedom of expression.\nEdit: Formatting",
">\n\nThat’s not Islamic terrorism that a coordinated attack by a subjugated and oppressed population in Israel.",
">\n\nTerrorism: \"the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.\" \nYou don't get to change the definition of words.",
">\n\nIn America we have white supremacist domestic terrorists as our biggest threat now",
">\n\nThe closer the date is to 09/11/2001and greater the melanin content the skin of the POTUS the more it matters according to the US right wing.",
">\n\nKurds in Syria helped crush Isis before Trump abandoned them. We pulled out of the middle east as well which was a large part of their hatred of us. Right wing extremists in America are also a far larger and still growing threat. They've been attacking Democrats, and FBI offices as well as trying to overthrow our democracy.",
">\n\nI mean, we just took out a leader in somolia like a week or so ago. You can google isis news... it's just not as prevalent in the news cycle. Probably got lots of monitoring systems going on in the background (obv) but ya know... now it's all Russia Russia Russia, wqr in Ukraine. Now there's the chinese balloon and whoever all is in cahoots over there.",
">\n\nBecause the FBI is doing a good job at it. Give them the powers to fight domestic terrorism and white supremacists, and I'll guarantee you, we will never see anything remotely resembling January 6 again.",
">\n\nIf the FBI was doing its job then January 6 would have never happened. The insurrectionists were being very open about what they wanted to do for weeks beforehand.\nEdit: Also, the FBI are white nationalists.",
">\n\nI would say that it's partly because in Europe, one strain of Islamic terrorism has essentially achieved all their goals.\nStarting with the murder of Theo van Gogh, from 2004-2020, you had an ideologically coherent and very successful terrorism campaign by Islamic radicals against what they perceive as \"blasphemy\" in European media (most spectacularly including the Charlie Hebdo killings and Salman Rushdie but aside from that mostly much more lowkey and less flashy than other Islamic terrorism like the Bataclan attacks). They essentially completely succeeded shutting down the publication of \"blasphemous images\" in the mainstream press (nobody today thinks this is worth getting murdered over), and toning down the \"blasphemy\" more generally.\nIn some sense, it's a model for how well targeted terrorism with limited objectives can work. I would expect most ecoterrorist campaigns to follow a similar trajectory.",
">\n\nI don't know if I can agree to quite that level of hyperbole, but it does seem like Islam focused on simply moving its influence into Europe rather than trying to fight the U.S. Countries like France seem to have much more of an Islamic influence than they did 20 or even 10 years ago, much to their detriment. It's a garbage ideology.",
">\n\nIn retrospect Islamic terrorism was hyped to justify plundering Middle Eastern resources and strengthen a global system of control. Apparently a better enemy was covid, its everywhere, invisible and can kill you at any time."
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The US Government stopped funding those groups so they aren’t a threat anymore. | [
"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
">\n\nI would classify it as intra-islamic terrorism.",
">\n\nI’m really not looking forward to having to deal with “Post-Modern Islamic Terrorism.”",
">\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\nThe biggest potential threat for Islamist (not Islamic, there's a difference) terrorism in the west post-9/11 was almost always \"lone wolf\" attacks against soft targets.\nWell, the decisive action against ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, and similar organizations both crippled their ability to fund such operations, diminished their reach via social media, and severely crippled their leadership structures. After all, nobody wants to take an afternoon drive and get hit with a slap chop missile that doesn't leave enough left to fill a doggy bag.",
">\n\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\n\nI'd edit that to the US, not the west. Europe has issues still, though they are less than years past as we have mostly destroyed the large organizations.",
">\n\nISIS is now only a shell of what it was before. After government forces recaptured Mosul, that was pretty much its last stand. It became relegated to being tiny and extremely demoralized fighting cells in the desert. Less war like conditions now and therefore less people being displaced. Many of the people who went there to fight with ISIS have become disillusioned after seeing ISIS for what it was. They are either being prosecuted in their home countries or rendered stateless after leaders of various countries have revoked their citizenships. \nToday, Iraq has entered a period of relative stability after ISIS had been significantly weakened and US forces being ejected by the Iraqi government. Syrians are still leaving Assad's regime, albeit at smaller numbers than before. Boko Haram's leader has been killed and its camps have been destroyed.\nA huge but here... Al-Shabaab is still a major concern but more as a domestic concern. Every year, there are several attacks in Mogadishu and other cities throughout Somalia.",
">\n\nI would add that a group of militants attacks Southern Tanzania and northern Mozambique.",
">\n\nI'm actually not sure they are gone but they're definitely in retreat. USA and friends capped a lot of their leadership. They're either in retreat and rebuilding, or just done. I can't answer for Europe but I can also say that the focus in the USA is shifting to domestic terror.\nSorry if my response is too brief. I don't believe the answers are that complex. Religious government is on the rise, authoritarianism also, so they're busy at home. Oppressing the women.",
">\n\nI believe this is what it is too. Focus has shifted.",
">\n\nBecause ISIS was destroyed. Tens of thousands of its fighters were annihilated. And more importantly, Saudi Arabia and the gulf states which exported fundamentalist Islamism are moderating a bit. \nIt’s still a major problem though, just not in the West. The Sahel for instance is constantly ravaged by Islamist violence and there was just recently a massive terror attack in Pakistan.",
">\n\nProbably mainly because there haven't been any major Islamist terror attacks lately, while our attention has been drawn away by all the other scary stuff happening. Also Al Qaeda and ISIS are only a shadow of their former selves by now.",
">\n\nHere in France, there's still several \"Islamic terrorism-adjacent\" murders each year - ie. acts carried out by mentally deranged people that have latched onto Islamism as a motivating idealogy - there was a mass stabbing in Gare du Nord about two weeks ago.",
">\n\nThat’s scary, and I don’t think we even heard about it over here",
">\n\nA) All the leaders are dead. \nB) They’ve probably seen all the chaos in the West over the past decade and realize attacking is a waste of time.",
">\n\nBecause there's a war on Christmas, CRT, the border, and litter boxes in schools happening instead. It will come around again. Our tiny brains can only deal with 3 or 4 drumbeats at a time.",
">\n\nThe GOP can't really harp on Islamic terrorism while American rightwing terrorists are on the uptick.",
">\n\nI think COVID is the thing you're missing. It kinda distracted everyone for a while, and it killed a lot more people than terrorists ever did. Terrorism was always a massively-overinflated threat for the US and Europe, so it was easy to ignore it when an actual threat came along.",
">\n\nNow it’s Christian nationalism that’s our biggest national threat. Go figure",
">\n\nEh, Christian extremists haven't flown two planes into skyscrapers or shot up an LGBT nightclub or bombed a stadium full of kids or beheaded a teacher because he dared to draw Jesus. I'd say we're a ways away from Christian nationalism being a threat.",
">\n\nNo. They bomb abortion clinics and attack liberals and democrats. They launch insurrections when their candidate loses. Christian extremists call for a real-life version of Gilead here in America. They are a much bigger threat than Islamic radicals because they're homegrown terrorists.",
">\n\nAnd my point is that a possible threat is far better than two planes crashing into the Twin Towers, which was an actual threat.",
">\n\nBut it’s not a threat now. It’s an event that happened two decades ago. To the point of the OP, this type of extremism is no longer viewed as a threat in America. Recent history suggests that terrorism in the US will much more likely be committed by right wing Americans instead. We shouldn’t need another OKC bombing scale attack to acknowledge that.",
">\n\nOnly if you bought into the media hype, especially Republican media that needs to instill fear and dread of the \"other\". I actually had a neighbor who was certain Obama would usher in an era of Sharia law in the US during that time period.\nI tried explaining that ISIS and other such extremist Islamic worldviews were medieval in nature, and incapable of successfully propagating (much) in the modern world. They would eventually just burn out on their own. Worldviews can get outcompeted by more successful ones, just like species can. The vast majority of modern people simply do not want to be beheaded (or ruled) by extremists of any religion or ideology. But too many people unquestionably absorb the narratives they hear on tv.\nAnd of course the US needs an enemy du jour to justify its $1T/year war budget. So the American people will always be heavily propagandized by the state (corporate) media to fear the designated \"terrorist\" group, so they don't ever ask if all that money might otherwise be spent on healthcare, a living wage, or some other unicorn and puppies fantasy like that.",
">\n\nI know your ass isn’t blaming the “republican media” when Obama literally drone strikes so many people we ran out of bombs",
">\n\nI’m sorry if I didn’t structure my essay as clearly as I intended. \nBoth sides of the US corporate media often push the same false narratives but for different purposes. The Republicans pushed “radical Islamic terrorism” because they hate and fear “foreign” people especially if they are “non Christian”. And because the Democrats are “soft on terror” and “want Sharia law”.\nThe Democrats pushed for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, and yes unquestioningly allowed Obama’s and then trump’s drone attacks, because “they attacked us on 9/11” and “they are the bad terrorists we must fight over there so they can’t blow us up here” as the pretext (which was also Bush Junior’s line of reasoning), but more truly because the military industrial complex needs liberals to keep paying them hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars every year. \nRepublicans basically hate and fear all Muslims (remember they cheered trump’s Muslim ban), while liberals are only afraid of the “extremist” Muslims that CNN and the NYT tell them to fear. But in both cases, most Americans lost their taste for endless war in the Middle East. It’s much easier to sell them on a new endless war in the Ukraine. Especially since Putin clearly also is a power hungry dictator who made the calculation that he could more easily maintain power as a “war president”, much as the calculation Cheney/Bush made when they decided to invade Iraq (remember George Tenet said it was going to be a “slam dunk” and then we were stuck there for a decade — but the people still re-elected the dumbest and most incompetent president we ever had up to that point). \nBoth political parties are the two wings of the capitalist corporatist militarist party that runs the United States. The American people (all of them regardless of affiliation, religious belief, and education level) are the most heavily propagandized people in the history of the world. The American people could have voted for someone who voted against the Iraq war and who has vocally been against arming the Saudi’s in their Yemen war (Bernie Sanders) in 2016 and then again in 2020 but they voted for the War Mongers of both parties, both times. The vast majority of all Americans would rather spend their hard earned money on keeping their military bloated, rather than giving themselves universal single-payer healthcare or a guaranteed livable wage.",
">\n\nEvery single media outlet pushed war. candi rice and Hilary Clinton were literally just on a podcast still talking about WMD. Every news outlet lied. Every politician lied. The republicans just wore it on their sleeve more and the dems were dropping bombs with HOPE on them.\nEdit: the DNC trashed Bernie’s campaign both times and he rolled over. There is no hope for an anti war party in America. Is there any legitimate pushback with Ukraine ? If you criticize the escalation you get attacked. Was the same thing after 9/11.",
">\n\nThe right wing wants everyone to fear transgender people now. They are the new \"other\" to hate.",
">\n\nMaGA Republicans and cancel culture crazies are probably the new terrorists while Islamists are sitting quietly in the back of the bus planning the next 9-11",
">\n\nCouple of reasons.\nFor starters, a lot of the big catalysts for \"Islamic terrorism\" are....busy.\nISIS' main branch is pretty focused on conflict within Afghanistan against the Taliban and as such hasn't had a plethora of Western targets to strike at. Other ISIS franchises have been acting more locally in their country of origin.\nA lot of other networks have been pretty badly crippled by ongoing counter-terrorism efforts and have scaled back or shifted operations. As much of a pig's breakfast as the US has made of terrorism screening and control efforts at the domestic level, we've had a number of years to refine things and get it right enough that we can catch most of the problems headed our way. At least the problems with the backing of actual organizations/networks.\nSimilarly, the US is out(ish) of Afghanistan and Iraq which means we're just not there to be the target of attacks or enflame sentiment towards us that makes us the target of attacks. We're just less exposed than we used to be.\nThe conflict media cycle has also been living and breathing Ukraine for a year now which has taken a lot of wind out of the attention sails for Islamic fundamentalist terrorism.",
">\n\nIt only seems that way if you are an American. If you are a European especially a French, however, jihadism and Islamism are constant threats that need to be destroyed. After the beheading of French schoolteacher Samuel Paty in October 2020, the \"centrist\" French president Emmanuel Macron and his government finally had enough and have unleashed a huge campaign against the enemies they refer to as Islamo-leftism and Islamist separatism.\nOf course, the liberal media in the United States and the UK hate what the French have been doing. The New York Times even published this opinion article victim blaming the French.\nColor-blind France will not tolerate any challenge to its secular and democratic Republican values including Muslim children. All French Muslims must uphold those values including the ban on hijabs.\nOverall, this is how the French view the paradox of tolerance and freedom of expression.\nEdit: Formatting",
">\n\nThat’s not Islamic terrorism that a coordinated attack by a subjugated and oppressed population in Israel.",
">\n\nTerrorism: \"the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.\" \nYou don't get to change the definition of words.",
">\n\nIn America we have white supremacist domestic terrorists as our biggest threat now",
">\n\nThe closer the date is to 09/11/2001and greater the melanin content the skin of the POTUS the more it matters according to the US right wing.",
">\n\nKurds in Syria helped crush Isis before Trump abandoned them. We pulled out of the middle east as well which was a large part of their hatred of us. Right wing extremists in America are also a far larger and still growing threat. They've been attacking Democrats, and FBI offices as well as trying to overthrow our democracy.",
">\n\nI mean, we just took out a leader in somolia like a week or so ago. You can google isis news... it's just not as prevalent in the news cycle. Probably got lots of monitoring systems going on in the background (obv) but ya know... now it's all Russia Russia Russia, wqr in Ukraine. Now there's the chinese balloon and whoever all is in cahoots over there.",
">\n\nBecause the FBI is doing a good job at it. Give them the powers to fight domestic terrorism and white supremacists, and I'll guarantee you, we will never see anything remotely resembling January 6 again.",
">\n\nIf the FBI was doing its job then January 6 would have never happened. The insurrectionists were being very open about what they wanted to do for weeks beforehand.\nEdit: Also, the FBI are white nationalists.",
">\n\nI would say that it's partly because in Europe, one strain of Islamic terrorism has essentially achieved all their goals.\nStarting with the murder of Theo van Gogh, from 2004-2020, you had an ideologically coherent and very successful terrorism campaign by Islamic radicals against what they perceive as \"blasphemy\" in European media (most spectacularly including the Charlie Hebdo killings and Salman Rushdie but aside from that mostly much more lowkey and less flashy than other Islamic terrorism like the Bataclan attacks). They essentially completely succeeded shutting down the publication of \"blasphemous images\" in the mainstream press (nobody today thinks this is worth getting murdered over), and toning down the \"blasphemy\" more generally.\nIn some sense, it's a model for how well targeted terrorism with limited objectives can work. I would expect most ecoterrorist campaigns to follow a similar trajectory.",
">\n\nI don't know if I can agree to quite that level of hyperbole, but it does seem like Islam focused on simply moving its influence into Europe rather than trying to fight the U.S. Countries like France seem to have much more of an Islamic influence than they did 20 or even 10 years ago, much to their detriment. It's a garbage ideology.",
">\n\nIn retrospect Islamic terrorism was hyped to justify plundering Middle Eastern resources and strengthen a global system of control. Apparently a better enemy was covid, its everywhere, invisible and can kill you at any time.",
">\n\nCovid is a legitimate enemy though. Killed magnitudes more people than terrorism did."
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It's the media, hyping whatever "crisis of the day" is. They're the echo chamber for the Republicans who generate the "crisis of the day" to ensure hate and fear don't diminish enough for people to relax and live their lives. | [
"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
">\n\nI would classify it as intra-islamic terrorism.",
">\n\nI’m really not looking forward to having to deal with “Post-Modern Islamic Terrorism.”",
">\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\nThe biggest potential threat for Islamist (not Islamic, there's a difference) terrorism in the west post-9/11 was almost always \"lone wolf\" attacks against soft targets.\nWell, the decisive action against ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, and similar organizations both crippled their ability to fund such operations, diminished their reach via social media, and severely crippled their leadership structures. After all, nobody wants to take an afternoon drive and get hit with a slap chop missile that doesn't leave enough left to fill a doggy bag.",
">\n\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\n\nI'd edit that to the US, not the west. Europe has issues still, though they are less than years past as we have mostly destroyed the large organizations.",
">\n\nISIS is now only a shell of what it was before. After government forces recaptured Mosul, that was pretty much its last stand. It became relegated to being tiny and extremely demoralized fighting cells in the desert. Less war like conditions now and therefore less people being displaced. Many of the people who went there to fight with ISIS have become disillusioned after seeing ISIS for what it was. They are either being prosecuted in their home countries or rendered stateless after leaders of various countries have revoked their citizenships. \nToday, Iraq has entered a period of relative stability after ISIS had been significantly weakened and US forces being ejected by the Iraqi government. Syrians are still leaving Assad's regime, albeit at smaller numbers than before. Boko Haram's leader has been killed and its camps have been destroyed.\nA huge but here... Al-Shabaab is still a major concern but more as a domestic concern. Every year, there are several attacks in Mogadishu and other cities throughout Somalia.",
">\n\nI would add that a group of militants attacks Southern Tanzania and northern Mozambique.",
">\n\nI'm actually not sure they are gone but they're definitely in retreat. USA and friends capped a lot of their leadership. They're either in retreat and rebuilding, or just done. I can't answer for Europe but I can also say that the focus in the USA is shifting to domestic terror.\nSorry if my response is too brief. I don't believe the answers are that complex. Religious government is on the rise, authoritarianism also, so they're busy at home. Oppressing the women.",
">\n\nI believe this is what it is too. Focus has shifted.",
">\n\nBecause ISIS was destroyed. Tens of thousands of its fighters were annihilated. And more importantly, Saudi Arabia and the gulf states which exported fundamentalist Islamism are moderating a bit. \nIt’s still a major problem though, just not in the West. The Sahel for instance is constantly ravaged by Islamist violence and there was just recently a massive terror attack in Pakistan.",
">\n\nProbably mainly because there haven't been any major Islamist terror attacks lately, while our attention has been drawn away by all the other scary stuff happening. Also Al Qaeda and ISIS are only a shadow of their former selves by now.",
">\n\nHere in France, there's still several \"Islamic terrorism-adjacent\" murders each year - ie. acts carried out by mentally deranged people that have latched onto Islamism as a motivating idealogy - there was a mass stabbing in Gare du Nord about two weeks ago.",
">\n\nThat’s scary, and I don’t think we even heard about it over here",
">\n\nA) All the leaders are dead. \nB) They’ve probably seen all the chaos in the West over the past decade and realize attacking is a waste of time.",
">\n\nBecause there's a war on Christmas, CRT, the border, and litter boxes in schools happening instead. It will come around again. Our tiny brains can only deal with 3 or 4 drumbeats at a time.",
">\n\nThe GOP can't really harp on Islamic terrorism while American rightwing terrorists are on the uptick.",
">\n\nI think COVID is the thing you're missing. It kinda distracted everyone for a while, and it killed a lot more people than terrorists ever did. Terrorism was always a massively-overinflated threat for the US and Europe, so it was easy to ignore it when an actual threat came along.",
">\n\nNow it’s Christian nationalism that’s our biggest national threat. Go figure",
">\n\nEh, Christian extremists haven't flown two planes into skyscrapers or shot up an LGBT nightclub or bombed a stadium full of kids or beheaded a teacher because he dared to draw Jesus. I'd say we're a ways away from Christian nationalism being a threat.",
">\n\nNo. They bomb abortion clinics and attack liberals and democrats. They launch insurrections when their candidate loses. Christian extremists call for a real-life version of Gilead here in America. They are a much bigger threat than Islamic radicals because they're homegrown terrorists.",
">\n\nAnd my point is that a possible threat is far better than two planes crashing into the Twin Towers, which was an actual threat.",
">\n\nBut it’s not a threat now. It’s an event that happened two decades ago. To the point of the OP, this type of extremism is no longer viewed as a threat in America. Recent history suggests that terrorism in the US will much more likely be committed by right wing Americans instead. We shouldn’t need another OKC bombing scale attack to acknowledge that.",
">\n\nOnly if you bought into the media hype, especially Republican media that needs to instill fear and dread of the \"other\". I actually had a neighbor who was certain Obama would usher in an era of Sharia law in the US during that time period.\nI tried explaining that ISIS and other such extremist Islamic worldviews were medieval in nature, and incapable of successfully propagating (much) in the modern world. They would eventually just burn out on their own. Worldviews can get outcompeted by more successful ones, just like species can. The vast majority of modern people simply do not want to be beheaded (or ruled) by extremists of any religion or ideology. But too many people unquestionably absorb the narratives they hear on tv.\nAnd of course the US needs an enemy du jour to justify its $1T/year war budget. So the American people will always be heavily propagandized by the state (corporate) media to fear the designated \"terrorist\" group, so they don't ever ask if all that money might otherwise be spent on healthcare, a living wage, or some other unicorn and puppies fantasy like that.",
">\n\nI know your ass isn’t blaming the “republican media” when Obama literally drone strikes so many people we ran out of bombs",
">\n\nI’m sorry if I didn’t structure my essay as clearly as I intended. \nBoth sides of the US corporate media often push the same false narratives but for different purposes. The Republicans pushed “radical Islamic terrorism” because they hate and fear “foreign” people especially if they are “non Christian”. And because the Democrats are “soft on terror” and “want Sharia law”.\nThe Democrats pushed for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, and yes unquestioningly allowed Obama’s and then trump’s drone attacks, because “they attacked us on 9/11” and “they are the bad terrorists we must fight over there so they can’t blow us up here” as the pretext (which was also Bush Junior’s line of reasoning), but more truly because the military industrial complex needs liberals to keep paying them hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars every year. \nRepublicans basically hate and fear all Muslims (remember they cheered trump’s Muslim ban), while liberals are only afraid of the “extremist” Muslims that CNN and the NYT tell them to fear. But in both cases, most Americans lost their taste for endless war in the Middle East. It’s much easier to sell them on a new endless war in the Ukraine. Especially since Putin clearly also is a power hungry dictator who made the calculation that he could more easily maintain power as a “war president”, much as the calculation Cheney/Bush made when they decided to invade Iraq (remember George Tenet said it was going to be a “slam dunk” and then we were stuck there for a decade — but the people still re-elected the dumbest and most incompetent president we ever had up to that point). \nBoth political parties are the two wings of the capitalist corporatist militarist party that runs the United States. The American people (all of them regardless of affiliation, religious belief, and education level) are the most heavily propagandized people in the history of the world. The American people could have voted for someone who voted against the Iraq war and who has vocally been against arming the Saudi’s in their Yemen war (Bernie Sanders) in 2016 and then again in 2020 but they voted for the War Mongers of both parties, both times. The vast majority of all Americans would rather spend their hard earned money on keeping their military bloated, rather than giving themselves universal single-payer healthcare or a guaranteed livable wage.",
">\n\nEvery single media outlet pushed war. candi rice and Hilary Clinton were literally just on a podcast still talking about WMD. Every news outlet lied. Every politician lied. The republicans just wore it on their sleeve more and the dems were dropping bombs with HOPE on them.\nEdit: the DNC trashed Bernie’s campaign both times and he rolled over. There is no hope for an anti war party in America. Is there any legitimate pushback with Ukraine ? If you criticize the escalation you get attacked. Was the same thing after 9/11.",
">\n\nThe right wing wants everyone to fear transgender people now. They are the new \"other\" to hate.",
">\n\nMaGA Republicans and cancel culture crazies are probably the new terrorists while Islamists are sitting quietly in the back of the bus planning the next 9-11",
">\n\nCouple of reasons.\nFor starters, a lot of the big catalysts for \"Islamic terrorism\" are....busy.\nISIS' main branch is pretty focused on conflict within Afghanistan against the Taliban and as such hasn't had a plethora of Western targets to strike at. Other ISIS franchises have been acting more locally in their country of origin.\nA lot of other networks have been pretty badly crippled by ongoing counter-terrorism efforts and have scaled back or shifted operations. As much of a pig's breakfast as the US has made of terrorism screening and control efforts at the domestic level, we've had a number of years to refine things and get it right enough that we can catch most of the problems headed our way. At least the problems with the backing of actual organizations/networks.\nSimilarly, the US is out(ish) of Afghanistan and Iraq which means we're just not there to be the target of attacks or enflame sentiment towards us that makes us the target of attacks. We're just less exposed than we used to be.\nThe conflict media cycle has also been living and breathing Ukraine for a year now which has taken a lot of wind out of the attention sails for Islamic fundamentalist terrorism.",
">\n\nIt only seems that way if you are an American. If you are a European especially a French, however, jihadism and Islamism are constant threats that need to be destroyed. After the beheading of French schoolteacher Samuel Paty in October 2020, the \"centrist\" French president Emmanuel Macron and his government finally had enough and have unleashed a huge campaign against the enemies they refer to as Islamo-leftism and Islamist separatism.\nOf course, the liberal media in the United States and the UK hate what the French have been doing. The New York Times even published this opinion article victim blaming the French.\nColor-blind France will not tolerate any challenge to its secular and democratic Republican values including Muslim children. All French Muslims must uphold those values including the ban on hijabs.\nOverall, this is how the French view the paradox of tolerance and freedom of expression.\nEdit: Formatting",
">\n\nThat’s not Islamic terrorism that a coordinated attack by a subjugated and oppressed population in Israel.",
">\n\nTerrorism: \"the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.\" \nYou don't get to change the definition of words.",
">\n\nIn America we have white supremacist domestic terrorists as our biggest threat now",
">\n\nThe closer the date is to 09/11/2001and greater the melanin content the skin of the POTUS the more it matters according to the US right wing.",
">\n\nKurds in Syria helped crush Isis before Trump abandoned them. We pulled out of the middle east as well which was a large part of their hatred of us. Right wing extremists in America are also a far larger and still growing threat. They've been attacking Democrats, and FBI offices as well as trying to overthrow our democracy.",
">\n\nI mean, we just took out a leader in somolia like a week or so ago. You can google isis news... it's just not as prevalent in the news cycle. Probably got lots of monitoring systems going on in the background (obv) but ya know... now it's all Russia Russia Russia, wqr in Ukraine. Now there's the chinese balloon and whoever all is in cahoots over there.",
">\n\nBecause the FBI is doing a good job at it. Give them the powers to fight domestic terrorism and white supremacists, and I'll guarantee you, we will never see anything remotely resembling January 6 again.",
">\n\nIf the FBI was doing its job then January 6 would have never happened. The insurrectionists were being very open about what they wanted to do for weeks beforehand.\nEdit: Also, the FBI are white nationalists.",
">\n\nI would say that it's partly because in Europe, one strain of Islamic terrorism has essentially achieved all their goals.\nStarting with the murder of Theo van Gogh, from 2004-2020, you had an ideologically coherent and very successful terrorism campaign by Islamic radicals against what they perceive as \"blasphemy\" in European media (most spectacularly including the Charlie Hebdo killings and Salman Rushdie but aside from that mostly much more lowkey and less flashy than other Islamic terrorism like the Bataclan attacks). They essentially completely succeeded shutting down the publication of \"blasphemous images\" in the mainstream press (nobody today thinks this is worth getting murdered over), and toning down the \"blasphemy\" more generally.\nIn some sense, it's a model for how well targeted terrorism with limited objectives can work. I would expect most ecoterrorist campaigns to follow a similar trajectory.",
">\n\nI don't know if I can agree to quite that level of hyperbole, but it does seem like Islam focused on simply moving its influence into Europe rather than trying to fight the U.S. Countries like France seem to have much more of an Islamic influence than they did 20 or even 10 years ago, much to their detriment. It's a garbage ideology.",
">\n\nIn retrospect Islamic terrorism was hyped to justify plundering Middle Eastern resources and strengthen a global system of control. Apparently a better enemy was covid, its everywhere, invisible and can kill you at any time.",
">\n\nCovid is a legitimate enemy though. Killed magnitudes more people than terrorism did.",
">\n\nThe US Government stopped funding those groups so they aren’t a threat anymore."
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It didn't seem like that big of a big deal after we responded in January of 1991. Trust me, I was born the day after the military action started, and I knew nothing of any of it until September 11th. | [
"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
">\n\nI would classify it as intra-islamic terrorism.",
">\n\nI’m really not looking forward to having to deal with “Post-Modern Islamic Terrorism.”",
">\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\nThe biggest potential threat for Islamist (not Islamic, there's a difference) terrorism in the west post-9/11 was almost always \"lone wolf\" attacks against soft targets.\nWell, the decisive action against ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, and similar organizations both crippled their ability to fund such operations, diminished their reach via social media, and severely crippled their leadership structures. After all, nobody wants to take an afternoon drive and get hit with a slap chop missile that doesn't leave enough left to fill a doggy bag.",
">\n\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\n\nI'd edit that to the US, not the west. Europe has issues still, though they are less than years past as we have mostly destroyed the large organizations.",
">\n\nISIS is now only a shell of what it was before. After government forces recaptured Mosul, that was pretty much its last stand. It became relegated to being tiny and extremely demoralized fighting cells in the desert. Less war like conditions now and therefore less people being displaced. Many of the people who went there to fight with ISIS have become disillusioned after seeing ISIS for what it was. They are either being prosecuted in their home countries or rendered stateless after leaders of various countries have revoked their citizenships. \nToday, Iraq has entered a period of relative stability after ISIS had been significantly weakened and US forces being ejected by the Iraqi government. Syrians are still leaving Assad's regime, albeit at smaller numbers than before. Boko Haram's leader has been killed and its camps have been destroyed.\nA huge but here... Al-Shabaab is still a major concern but more as a domestic concern. Every year, there are several attacks in Mogadishu and other cities throughout Somalia.",
">\n\nI would add that a group of militants attacks Southern Tanzania and northern Mozambique.",
">\n\nI'm actually not sure they are gone but they're definitely in retreat. USA and friends capped a lot of their leadership. They're either in retreat and rebuilding, or just done. I can't answer for Europe but I can also say that the focus in the USA is shifting to domestic terror.\nSorry if my response is too brief. I don't believe the answers are that complex. Religious government is on the rise, authoritarianism also, so they're busy at home. Oppressing the women.",
">\n\nI believe this is what it is too. Focus has shifted.",
">\n\nBecause ISIS was destroyed. Tens of thousands of its fighters were annihilated. And more importantly, Saudi Arabia and the gulf states which exported fundamentalist Islamism are moderating a bit. \nIt’s still a major problem though, just not in the West. The Sahel for instance is constantly ravaged by Islamist violence and there was just recently a massive terror attack in Pakistan.",
">\n\nProbably mainly because there haven't been any major Islamist terror attacks lately, while our attention has been drawn away by all the other scary stuff happening. Also Al Qaeda and ISIS are only a shadow of their former selves by now.",
">\n\nHere in France, there's still several \"Islamic terrorism-adjacent\" murders each year - ie. acts carried out by mentally deranged people that have latched onto Islamism as a motivating idealogy - there was a mass stabbing in Gare du Nord about two weeks ago.",
">\n\nThat’s scary, and I don’t think we even heard about it over here",
">\n\nA) All the leaders are dead. \nB) They’ve probably seen all the chaos in the West over the past decade and realize attacking is a waste of time.",
">\n\nBecause there's a war on Christmas, CRT, the border, and litter boxes in schools happening instead. It will come around again. Our tiny brains can only deal with 3 or 4 drumbeats at a time.",
">\n\nThe GOP can't really harp on Islamic terrorism while American rightwing terrorists are on the uptick.",
">\n\nI think COVID is the thing you're missing. It kinda distracted everyone for a while, and it killed a lot more people than terrorists ever did. Terrorism was always a massively-overinflated threat for the US and Europe, so it was easy to ignore it when an actual threat came along.",
">\n\nNow it’s Christian nationalism that’s our biggest national threat. Go figure",
">\n\nEh, Christian extremists haven't flown two planes into skyscrapers or shot up an LGBT nightclub or bombed a stadium full of kids or beheaded a teacher because he dared to draw Jesus. I'd say we're a ways away from Christian nationalism being a threat.",
">\n\nNo. They bomb abortion clinics and attack liberals and democrats. They launch insurrections when their candidate loses. Christian extremists call for a real-life version of Gilead here in America. They are a much bigger threat than Islamic radicals because they're homegrown terrorists.",
">\n\nAnd my point is that a possible threat is far better than two planes crashing into the Twin Towers, which was an actual threat.",
">\n\nBut it’s not a threat now. It’s an event that happened two decades ago. To the point of the OP, this type of extremism is no longer viewed as a threat in America. Recent history suggests that terrorism in the US will much more likely be committed by right wing Americans instead. We shouldn’t need another OKC bombing scale attack to acknowledge that.",
">\n\nOnly if you bought into the media hype, especially Republican media that needs to instill fear and dread of the \"other\". I actually had a neighbor who was certain Obama would usher in an era of Sharia law in the US during that time period.\nI tried explaining that ISIS and other such extremist Islamic worldviews were medieval in nature, and incapable of successfully propagating (much) in the modern world. They would eventually just burn out on their own. Worldviews can get outcompeted by more successful ones, just like species can. The vast majority of modern people simply do not want to be beheaded (or ruled) by extremists of any religion or ideology. But too many people unquestionably absorb the narratives they hear on tv.\nAnd of course the US needs an enemy du jour to justify its $1T/year war budget. So the American people will always be heavily propagandized by the state (corporate) media to fear the designated \"terrorist\" group, so they don't ever ask if all that money might otherwise be spent on healthcare, a living wage, or some other unicorn and puppies fantasy like that.",
">\n\nI know your ass isn’t blaming the “republican media” when Obama literally drone strikes so many people we ran out of bombs",
">\n\nI’m sorry if I didn’t structure my essay as clearly as I intended. \nBoth sides of the US corporate media often push the same false narratives but for different purposes. The Republicans pushed “radical Islamic terrorism” because they hate and fear “foreign” people especially if they are “non Christian”. And because the Democrats are “soft on terror” and “want Sharia law”.\nThe Democrats pushed for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, and yes unquestioningly allowed Obama’s and then trump’s drone attacks, because “they attacked us on 9/11” and “they are the bad terrorists we must fight over there so they can’t blow us up here” as the pretext (which was also Bush Junior’s line of reasoning), but more truly because the military industrial complex needs liberals to keep paying them hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars every year. \nRepublicans basically hate and fear all Muslims (remember they cheered trump’s Muslim ban), while liberals are only afraid of the “extremist” Muslims that CNN and the NYT tell them to fear. But in both cases, most Americans lost their taste for endless war in the Middle East. It’s much easier to sell them on a new endless war in the Ukraine. Especially since Putin clearly also is a power hungry dictator who made the calculation that he could more easily maintain power as a “war president”, much as the calculation Cheney/Bush made when they decided to invade Iraq (remember George Tenet said it was going to be a “slam dunk” and then we were stuck there for a decade — but the people still re-elected the dumbest and most incompetent president we ever had up to that point). \nBoth political parties are the two wings of the capitalist corporatist militarist party that runs the United States. The American people (all of them regardless of affiliation, religious belief, and education level) are the most heavily propagandized people in the history of the world. The American people could have voted for someone who voted against the Iraq war and who has vocally been against arming the Saudi’s in their Yemen war (Bernie Sanders) in 2016 and then again in 2020 but they voted for the War Mongers of both parties, both times. The vast majority of all Americans would rather spend their hard earned money on keeping their military bloated, rather than giving themselves universal single-payer healthcare or a guaranteed livable wage.",
">\n\nEvery single media outlet pushed war. candi rice and Hilary Clinton were literally just on a podcast still talking about WMD. Every news outlet lied. Every politician lied. The republicans just wore it on their sleeve more and the dems were dropping bombs with HOPE on them.\nEdit: the DNC trashed Bernie’s campaign both times and he rolled over. There is no hope for an anti war party in America. Is there any legitimate pushback with Ukraine ? If you criticize the escalation you get attacked. Was the same thing after 9/11.",
">\n\nThe right wing wants everyone to fear transgender people now. They are the new \"other\" to hate.",
">\n\nMaGA Republicans and cancel culture crazies are probably the new terrorists while Islamists are sitting quietly in the back of the bus planning the next 9-11",
">\n\nCouple of reasons.\nFor starters, a lot of the big catalysts for \"Islamic terrorism\" are....busy.\nISIS' main branch is pretty focused on conflict within Afghanistan against the Taliban and as such hasn't had a plethora of Western targets to strike at. Other ISIS franchises have been acting more locally in their country of origin.\nA lot of other networks have been pretty badly crippled by ongoing counter-terrorism efforts and have scaled back or shifted operations. As much of a pig's breakfast as the US has made of terrorism screening and control efforts at the domestic level, we've had a number of years to refine things and get it right enough that we can catch most of the problems headed our way. At least the problems with the backing of actual organizations/networks.\nSimilarly, the US is out(ish) of Afghanistan and Iraq which means we're just not there to be the target of attacks or enflame sentiment towards us that makes us the target of attacks. We're just less exposed than we used to be.\nThe conflict media cycle has also been living and breathing Ukraine for a year now which has taken a lot of wind out of the attention sails for Islamic fundamentalist terrorism.",
">\n\nIt only seems that way if you are an American. If you are a European especially a French, however, jihadism and Islamism are constant threats that need to be destroyed. After the beheading of French schoolteacher Samuel Paty in October 2020, the \"centrist\" French president Emmanuel Macron and his government finally had enough and have unleashed a huge campaign against the enemies they refer to as Islamo-leftism and Islamist separatism.\nOf course, the liberal media in the United States and the UK hate what the French have been doing. The New York Times even published this opinion article victim blaming the French.\nColor-blind France will not tolerate any challenge to its secular and democratic Republican values including Muslim children. All French Muslims must uphold those values including the ban on hijabs.\nOverall, this is how the French view the paradox of tolerance and freedom of expression.\nEdit: Formatting",
">\n\nThat’s not Islamic terrorism that a coordinated attack by a subjugated and oppressed population in Israel.",
">\n\nTerrorism: \"the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.\" \nYou don't get to change the definition of words.",
">\n\nIn America we have white supremacist domestic terrorists as our biggest threat now",
">\n\nThe closer the date is to 09/11/2001and greater the melanin content the skin of the POTUS the more it matters according to the US right wing.",
">\n\nKurds in Syria helped crush Isis before Trump abandoned them. We pulled out of the middle east as well which was a large part of their hatred of us. Right wing extremists in America are also a far larger and still growing threat. They've been attacking Democrats, and FBI offices as well as trying to overthrow our democracy.",
">\n\nI mean, we just took out a leader in somolia like a week or so ago. You can google isis news... it's just not as prevalent in the news cycle. Probably got lots of monitoring systems going on in the background (obv) but ya know... now it's all Russia Russia Russia, wqr in Ukraine. Now there's the chinese balloon and whoever all is in cahoots over there.",
">\n\nBecause the FBI is doing a good job at it. Give them the powers to fight domestic terrorism and white supremacists, and I'll guarantee you, we will never see anything remotely resembling January 6 again.",
">\n\nIf the FBI was doing its job then January 6 would have never happened. The insurrectionists were being very open about what they wanted to do for weeks beforehand.\nEdit: Also, the FBI are white nationalists.",
">\n\nI would say that it's partly because in Europe, one strain of Islamic terrorism has essentially achieved all their goals.\nStarting with the murder of Theo van Gogh, from 2004-2020, you had an ideologically coherent and very successful terrorism campaign by Islamic radicals against what they perceive as \"blasphemy\" in European media (most spectacularly including the Charlie Hebdo killings and Salman Rushdie but aside from that mostly much more lowkey and less flashy than other Islamic terrorism like the Bataclan attacks). They essentially completely succeeded shutting down the publication of \"blasphemous images\" in the mainstream press (nobody today thinks this is worth getting murdered over), and toning down the \"blasphemy\" more generally.\nIn some sense, it's a model for how well targeted terrorism with limited objectives can work. I would expect most ecoterrorist campaigns to follow a similar trajectory.",
">\n\nI don't know if I can agree to quite that level of hyperbole, but it does seem like Islam focused on simply moving its influence into Europe rather than trying to fight the U.S. Countries like France seem to have much more of an Islamic influence than they did 20 or even 10 years ago, much to their detriment. It's a garbage ideology.",
">\n\nIn retrospect Islamic terrorism was hyped to justify plundering Middle Eastern resources and strengthen a global system of control. Apparently a better enemy was covid, its everywhere, invisible and can kill you at any time.",
">\n\nCovid is a legitimate enemy though. Killed magnitudes more people than terrorism did.",
">\n\nThe US Government stopped funding those groups so they aren’t a threat anymore.",
">\n\nIt's the media, hyping whatever \"crisis of the day\" is. They're the echo chamber for the Republicans who generate the \"crisis of the day\" to ensure hate and fear don't diminish enough for people to relax and live their lives."
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Theres no suicide bomber volunteers? I think they try to get away with a knife now days.
Would anyone like to blow themselves up for 10k? Theres a reward at the end. | [
"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
">\n\nI would classify it as intra-islamic terrorism.",
">\n\nI’m really not looking forward to having to deal with “Post-Modern Islamic Terrorism.”",
">\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\nThe biggest potential threat for Islamist (not Islamic, there's a difference) terrorism in the west post-9/11 was almost always \"lone wolf\" attacks against soft targets.\nWell, the decisive action against ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, and similar organizations both crippled their ability to fund such operations, diminished their reach via social media, and severely crippled their leadership structures. After all, nobody wants to take an afternoon drive and get hit with a slap chop missile that doesn't leave enough left to fill a doggy bag.",
">\n\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\n\nI'd edit that to the US, not the west. Europe has issues still, though they are less than years past as we have mostly destroyed the large organizations.",
">\n\nISIS is now only a shell of what it was before. After government forces recaptured Mosul, that was pretty much its last stand. It became relegated to being tiny and extremely demoralized fighting cells in the desert. Less war like conditions now and therefore less people being displaced. Many of the people who went there to fight with ISIS have become disillusioned after seeing ISIS for what it was. They are either being prosecuted in their home countries or rendered stateless after leaders of various countries have revoked their citizenships. \nToday, Iraq has entered a period of relative stability after ISIS had been significantly weakened and US forces being ejected by the Iraqi government. Syrians are still leaving Assad's regime, albeit at smaller numbers than before. Boko Haram's leader has been killed and its camps have been destroyed.\nA huge but here... Al-Shabaab is still a major concern but more as a domestic concern. Every year, there are several attacks in Mogadishu and other cities throughout Somalia.",
">\n\nI would add that a group of militants attacks Southern Tanzania and northern Mozambique.",
">\n\nI'm actually not sure they are gone but they're definitely in retreat. USA and friends capped a lot of their leadership. They're either in retreat and rebuilding, or just done. I can't answer for Europe but I can also say that the focus in the USA is shifting to domestic terror.\nSorry if my response is too brief. I don't believe the answers are that complex. Religious government is on the rise, authoritarianism also, so they're busy at home. Oppressing the women.",
">\n\nI believe this is what it is too. Focus has shifted.",
">\n\nBecause ISIS was destroyed. Tens of thousands of its fighters were annihilated. And more importantly, Saudi Arabia and the gulf states which exported fundamentalist Islamism are moderating a bit. \nIt’s still a major problem though, just not in the West. The Sahel for instance is constantly ravaged by Islamist violence and there was just recently a massive terror attack in Pakistan.",
">\n\nProbably mainly because there haven't been any major Islamist terror attacks lately, while our attention has been drawn away by all the other scary stuff happening. Also Al Qaeda and ISIS are only a shadow of their former selves by now.",
">\n\nHere in France, there's still several \"Islamic terrorism-adjacent\" murders each year - ie. acts carried out by mentally deranged people that have latched onto Islamism as a motivating idealogy - there was a mass stabbing in Gare du Nord about two weeks ago.",
">\n\nThat’s scary, and I don’t think we even heard about it over here",
">\n\nA) All the leaders are dead. \nB) They’ve probably seen all the chaos in the West over the past decade and realize attacking is a waste of time.",
">\n\nBecause there's a war on Christmas, CRT, the border, and litter boxes in schools happening instead. It will come around again. Our tiny brains can only deal with 3 or 4 drumbeats at a time.",
">\n\nThe GOP can't really harp on Islamic terrorism while American rightwing terrorists are on the uptick.",
">\n\nI think COVID is the thing you're missing. It kinda distracted everyone for a while, and it killed a lot more people than terrorists ever did. Terrorism was always a massively-overinflated threat for the US and Europe, so it was easy to ignore it when an actual threat came along.",
">\n\nNow it’s Christian nationalism that’s our biggest national threat. Go figure",
">\n\nEh, Christian extremists haven't flown two planes into skyscrapers or shot up an LGBT nightclub or bombed a stadium full of kids or beheaded a teacher because he dared to draw Jesus. I'd say we're a ways away from Christian nationalism being a threat.",
">\n\nNo. They bomb abortion clinics and attack liberals and democrats. They launch insurrections when their candidate loses. Christian extremists call for a real-life version of Gilead here in America. They are a much bigger threat than Islamic radicals because they're homegrown terrorists.",
">\n\nAnd my point is that a possible threat is far better than two planes crashing into the Twin Towers, which was an actual threat.",
">\n\nBut it’s not a threat now. It’s an event that happened two decades ago. To the point of the OP, this type of extremism is no longer viewed as a threat in America. Recent history suggests that terrorism in the US will much more likely be committed by right wing Americans instead. We shouldn’t need another OKC bombing scale attack to acknowledge that.",
">\n\nOnly if you bought into the media hype, especially Republican media that needs to instill fear and dread of the \"other\". I actually had a neighbor who was certain Obama would usher in an era of Sharia law in the US during that time period.\nI tried explaining that ISIS and other such extremist Islamic worldviews were medieval in nature, and incapable of successfully propagating (much) in the modern world. They would eventually just burn out on their own. Worldviews can get outcompeted by more successful ones, just like species can. The vast majority of modern people simply do not want to be beheaded (or ruled) by extremists of any religion or ideology. But too many people unquestionably absorb the narratives they hear on tv.\nAnd of course the US needs an enemy du jour to justify its $1T/year war budget. So the American people will always be heavily propagandized by the state (corporate) media to fear the designated \"terrorist\" group, so they don't ever ask if all that money might otherwise be spent on healthcare, a living wage, or some other unicorn and puppies fantasy like that.",
">\n\nI know your ass isn’t blaming the “republican media” when Obama literally drone strikes so many people we ran out of bombs",
">\n\nI’m sorry if I didn’t structure my essay as clearly as I intended. \nBoth sides of the US corporate media often push the same false narratives but for different purposes. The Republicans pushed “radical Islamic terrorism” because they hate and fear “foreign” people especially if they are “non Christian”. And because the Democrats are “soft on terror” and “want Sharia law”.\nThe Democrats pushed for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, and yes unquestioningly allowed Obama’s and then trump’s drone attacks, because “they attacked us on 9/11” and “they are the bad terrorists we must fight over there so they can’t blow us up here” as the pretext (which was also Bush Junior’s line of reasoning), but more truly because the military industrial complex needs liberals to keep paying them hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars every year. \nRepublicans basically hate and fear all Muslims (remember they cheered trump’s Muslim ban), while liberals are only afraid of the “extremist” Muslims that CNN and the NYT tell them to fear. But in both cases, most Americans lost their taste for endless war in the Middle East. It’s much easier to sell them on a new endless war in the Ukraine. Especially since Putin clearly also is a power hungry dictator who made the calculation that he could more easily maintain power as a “war president”, much as the calculation Cheney/Bush made when they decided to invade Iraq (remember George Tenet said it was going to be a “slam dunk” and then we were stuck there for a decade — but the people still re-elected the dumbest and most incompetent president we ever had up to that point). \nBoth political parties are the two wings of the capitalist corporatist militarist party that runs the United States. The American people (all of them regardless of affiliation, religious belief, and education level) are the most heavily propagandized people in the history of the world. The American people could have voted for someone who voted against the Iraq war and who has vocally been against arming the Saudi’s in their Yemen war (Bernie Sanders) in 2016 and then again in 2020 but they voted for the War Mongers of both parties, both times. The vast majority of all Americans would rather spend their hard earned money on keeping their military bloated, rather than giving themselves universal single-payer healthcare or a guaranteed livable wage.",
">\n\nEvery single media outlet pushed war. candi rice and Hilary Clinton were literally just on a podcast still talking about WMD. Every news outlet lied. Every politician lied. The republicans just wore it on their sleeve more and the dems were dropping bombs with HOPE on them.\nEdit: the DNC trashed Bernie’s campaign both times and he rolled over. There is no hope for an anti war party in America. Is there any legitimate pushback with Ukraine ? If you criticize the escalation you get attacked. Was the same thing after 9/11.",
">\n\nThe right wing wants everyone to fear transgender people now. They are the new \"other\" to hate.",
">\n\nMaGA Republicans and cancel culture crazies are probably the new terrorists while Islamists are sitting quietly in the back of the bus planning the next 9-11",
">\n\nCouple of reasons.\nFor starters, a lot of the big catalysts for \"Islamic terrorism\" are....busy.\nISIS' main branch is pretty focused on conflict within Afghanistan against the Taliban and as such hasn't had a plethora of Western targets to strike at. Other ISIS franchises have been acting more locally in their country of origin.\nA lot of other networks have been pretty badly crippled by ongoing counter-terrorism efforts and have scaled back or shifted operations. As much of a pig's breakfast as the US has made of terrorism screening and control efforts at the domestic level, we've had a number of years to refine things and get it right enough that we can catch most of the problems headed our way. At least the problems with the backing of actual organizations/networks.\nSimilarly, the US is out(ish) of Afghanistan and Iraq which means we're just not there to be the target of attacks or enflame sentiment towards us that makes us the target of attacks. We're just less exposed than we used to be.\nThe conflict media cycle has also been living and breathing Ukraine for a year now which has taken a lot of wind out of the attention sails for Islamic fundamentalist terrorism.",
">\n\nIt only seems that way if you are an American. If you are a European especially a French, however, jihadism and Islamism are constant threats that need to be destroyed. After the beheading of French schoolteacher Samuel Paty in October 2020, the \"centrist\" French president Emmanuel Macron and his government finally had enough and have unleashed a huge campaign against the enemies they refer to as Islamo-leftism and Islamist separatism.\nOf course, the liberal media in the United States and the UK hate what the French have been doing. The New York Times even published this opinion article victim blaming the French.\nColor-blind France will not tolerate any challenge to its secular and democratic Republican values including Muslim children. All French Muslims must uphold those values including the ban on hijabs.\nOverall, this is how the French view the paradox of tolerance and freedom of expression.\nEdit: Formatting",
">\n\nThat’s not Islamic terrorism that a coordinated attack by a subjugated and oppressed population in Israel.",
">\n\nTerrorism: \"the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.\" \nYou don't get to change the definition of words.",
">\n\nIn America we have white supremacist domestic terrorists as our biggest threat now",
">\n\nThe closer the date is to 09/11/2001and greater the melanin content the skin of the POTUS the more it matters according to the US right wing.",
">\n\nKurds in Syria helped crush Isis before Trump abandoned them. We pulled out of the middle east as well which was a large part of their hatred of us. Right wing extremists in America are also a far larger and still growing threat. They've been attacking Democrats, and FBI offices as well as trying to overthrow our democracy.",
">\n\nI mean, we just took out a leader in somolia like a week or so ago. You can google isis news... it's just not as prevalent in the news cycle. Probably got lots of monitoring systems going on in the background (obv) but ya know... now it's all Russia Russia Russia, wqr in Ukraine. Now there's the chinese balloon and whoever all is in cahoots over there.",
">\n\nBecause the FBI is doing a good job at it. Give them the powers to fight domestic terrorism and white supremacists, and I'll guarantee you, we will never see anything remotely resembling January 6 again.",
">\n\nIf the FBI was doing its job then January 6 would have never happened. The insurrectionists were being very open about what they wanted to do for weeks beforehand.\nEdit: Also, the FBI are white nationalists.",
">\n\nI would say that it's partly because in Europe, one strain of Islamic terrorism has essentially achieved all their goals.\nStarting with the murder of Theo van Gogh, from 2004-2020, you had an ideologically coherent and very successful terrorism campaign by Islamic radicals against what they perceive as \"blasphemy\" in European media (most spectacularly including the Charlie Hebdo killings and Salman Rushdie but aside from that mostly much more lowkey and less flashy than other Islamic terrorism like the Bataclan attacks). They essentially completely succeeded shutting down the publication of \"blasphemous images\" in the mainstream press (nobody today thinks this is worth getting murdered over), and toning down the \"blasphemy\" more generally.\nIn some sense, it's a model for how well targeted terrorism with limited objectives can work. I would expect most ecoterrorist campaigns to follow a similar trajectory.",
">\n\nI don't know if I can agree to quite that level of hyperbole, but it does seem like Islam focused on simply moving its influence into Europe rather than trying to fight the U.S. Countries like France seem to have much more of an Islamic influence than they did 20 or even 10 years ago, much to their detriment. It's a garbage ideology.",
">\n\nIn retrospect Islamic terrorism was hyped to justify plundering Middle Eastern resources and strengthen a global system of control. Apparently a better enemy was covid, its everywhere, invisible and can kill you at any time.",
">\n\nCovid is a legitimate enemy though. Killed magnitudes more people than terrorism did.",
">\n\nThe US Government stopped funding those groups so they aren’t a threat anymore.",
">\n\nIt's the media, hyping whatever \"crisis of the day\" is. They're the echo chamber for the Republicans who generate the \"crisis of the day\" to ensure hate and fear don't diminish enough for people to relax and live their lives.",
">\n\nIt didn't seem like that big of a big deal after we responded in January of 1991. Trust me, I was born the day after the military action started, and I knew nothing of any of it until September 11th."
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They are just letting us eat each other alive instead. More effective and much cheaper. | [
"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
">\n\nI would classify it as intra-islamic terrorism.",
">\n\nI’m really not looking forward to having to deal with “Post-Modern Islamic Terrorism.”",
">\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\nThe biggest potential threat for Islamist (not Islamic, there's a difference) terrorism in the west post-9/11 was almost always \"lone wolf\" attacks against soft targets.\nWell, the decisive action against ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, and similar organizations both crippled their ability to fund such operations, diminished their reach via social media, and severely crippled their leadership structures. After all, nobody wants to take an afternoon drive and get hit with a slap chop missile that doesn't leave enough left to fill a doggy bag.",
">\n\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\n\nI'd edit that to the US, not the west. Europe has issues still, though they are less than years past as we have mostly destroyed the large organizations.",
">\n\nISIS is now only a shell of what it was before. After government forces recaptured Mosul, that was pretty much its last stand. It became relegated to being tiny and extremely demoralized fighting cells in the desert. Less war like conditions now and therefore less people being displaced. Many of the people who went there to fight with ISIS have become disillusioned after seeing ISIS for what it was. They are either being prosecuted in their home countries or rendered stateless after leaders of various countries have revoked their citizenships. \nToday, Iraq has entered a period of relative stability after ISIS had been significantly weakened and US forces being ejected by the Iraqi government. Syrians are still leaving Assad's regime, albeit at smaller numbers than before. Boko Haram's leader has been killed and its camps have been destroyed.\nA huge but here... Al-Shabaab is still a major concern but more as a domestic concern. Every year, there are several attacks in Mogadishu and other cities throughout Somalia.",
">\n\nI would add that a group of militants attacks Southern Tanzania and northern Mozambique.",
">\n\nI'm actually not sure they are gone but they're definitely in retreat. USA and friends capped a lot of their leadership. They're either in retreat and rebuilding, or just done. I can't answer for Europe but I can also say that the focus in the USA is shifting to domestic terror.\nSorry if my response is too brief. I don't believe the answers are that complex. Religious government is on the rise, authoritarianism also, so they're busy at home. Oppressing the women.",
">\n\nI believe this is what it is too. Focus has shifted.",
">\n\nBecause ISIS was destroyed. Tens of thousands of its fighters were annihilated. And more importantly, Saudi Arabia and the gulf states which exported fundamentalist Islamism are moderating a bit. \nIt’s still a major problem though, just not in the West. The Sahel for instance is constantly ravaged by Islamist violence and there was just recently a massive terror attack in Pakistan.",
">\n\nProbably mainly because there haven't been any major Islamist terror attacks lately, while our attention has been drawn away by all the other scary stuff happening. Also Al Qaeda and ISIS are only a shadow of their former selves by now.",
">\n\nHere in France, there's still several \"Islamic terrorism-adjacent\" murders each year - ie. acts carried out by mentally deranged people that have latched onto Islamism as a motivating idealogy - there was a mass stabbing in Gare du Nord about two weeks ago.",
">\n\nThat’s scary, and I don’t think we even heard about it over here",
">\n\nA) All the leaders are dead. \nB) They’ve probably seen all the chaos in the West over the past decade and realize attacking is a waste of time.",
">\n\nBecause there's a war on Christmas, CRT, the border, and litter boxes in schools happening instead. It will come around again. Our tiny brains can only deal with 3 or 4 drumbeats at a time.",
">\n\nThe GOP can't really harp on Islamic terrorism while American rightwing terrorists are on the uptick.",
">\n\nI think COVID is the thing you're missing. It kinda distracted everyone for a while, and it killed a lot more people than terrorists ever did. Terrorism was always a massively-overinflated threat for the US and Europe, so it was easy to ignore it when an actual threat came along.",
">\n\nNow it’s Christian nationalism that’s our biggest national threat. Go figure",
">\n\nEh, Christian extremists haven't flown two planes into skyscrapers or shot up an LGBT nightclub or bombed a stadium full of kids or beheaded a teacher because he dared to draw Jesus. I'd say we're a ways away from Christian nationalism being a threat.",
">\n\nNo. They bomb abortion clinics and attack liberals and democrats. They launch insurrections when their candidate loses. Christian extremists call for a real-life version of Gilead here in America. They are a much bigger threat than Islamic radicals because they're homegrown terrorists.",
">\n\nAnd my point is that a possible threat is far better than two planes crashing into the Twin Towers, which was an actual threat.",
">\n\nBut it’s not a threat now. It’s an event that happened two decades ago. To the point of the OP, this type of extremism is no longer viewed as a threat in America. Recent history suggests that terrorism in the US will much more likely be committed by right wing Americans instead. We shouldn’t need another OKC bombing scale attack to acknowledge that.",
">\n\nOnly if you bought into the media hype, especially Republican media that needs to instill fear and dread of the \"other\". I actually had a neighbor who was certain Obama would usher in an era of Sharia law in the US during that time period.\nI tried explaining that ISIS and other such extremist Islamic worldviews were medieval in nature, and incapable of successfully propagating (much) in the modern world. They would eventually just burn out on their own. Worldviews can get outcompeted by more successful ones, just like species can. The vast majority of modern people simply do not want to be beheaded (or ruled) by extremists of any religion or ideology. But too many people unquestionably absorb the narratives they hear on tv.\nAnd of course the US needs an enemy du jour to justify its $1T/year war budget. So the American people will always be heavily propagandized by the state (corporate) media to fear the designated \"terrorist\" group, so they don't ever ask if all that money might otherwise be spent on healthcare, a living wage, or some other unicorn and puppies fantasy like that.",
">\n\nI know your ass isn’t blaming the “republican media” when Obama literally drone strikes so many people we ran out of bombs",
">\n\nI’m sorry if I didn’t structure my essay as clearly as I intended. \nBoth sides of the US corporate media often push the same false narratives but for different purposes. The Republicans pushed “radical Islamic terrorism” because they hate and fear “foreign” people especially if they are “non Christian”. And because the Democrats are “soft on terror” and “want Sharia law”.\nThe Democrats pushed for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, and yes unquestioningly allowed Obama’s and then trump’s drone attacks, because “they attacked us on 9/11” and “they are the bad terrorists we must fight over there so they can’t blow us up here” as the pretext (which was also Bush Junior’s line of reasoning), but more truly because the military industrial complex needs liberals to keep paying them hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars every year. \nRepublicans basically hate and fear all Muslims (remember they cheered trump’s Muslim ban), while liberals are only afraid of the “extremist” Muslims that CNN and the NYT tell them to fear. But in both cases, most Americans lost their taste for endless war in the Middle East. It’s much easier to sell them on a new endless war in the Ukraine. Especially since Putin clearly also is a power hungry dictator who made the calculation that he could more easily maintain power as a “war president”, much as the calculation Cheney/Bush made when they decided to invade Iraq (remember George Tenet said it was going to be a “slam dunk” and then we were stuck there for a decade — but the people still re-elected the dumbest and most incompetent president we ever had up to that point). \nBoth political parties are the two wings of the capitalist corporatist militarist party that runs the United States. The American people (all of them regardless of affiliation, religious belief, and education level) are the most heavily propagandized people in the history of the world. The American people could have voted for someone who voted against the Iraq war and who has vocally been against arming the Saudi’s in their Yemen war (Bernie Sanders) in 2016 and then again in 2020 but they voted for the War Mongers of both parties, both times. The vast majority of all Americans would rather spend their hard earned money on keeping their military bloated, rather than giving themselves universal single-payer healthcare or a guaranteed livable wage.",
">\n\nEvery single media outlet pushed war. candi rice and Hilary Clinton were literally just on a podcast still talking about WMD. Every news outlet lied. Every politician lied. The republicans just wore it on their sleeve more and the dems were dropping bombs with HOPE on them.\nEdit: the DNC trashed Bernie’s campaign both times and he rolled over. There is no hope for an anti war party in America. Is there any legitimate pushback with Ukraine ? If you criticize the escalation you get attacked. Was the same thing after 9/11.",
">\n\nThe right wing wants everyone to fear transgender people now. They are the new \"other\" to hate.",
">\n\nMaGA Republicans and cancel culture crazies are probably the new terrorists while Islamists are sitting quietly in the back of the bus planning the next 9-11",
">\n\nCouple of reasons.\nFor starters, a lot of the big catalysts for \"Islamic terrorism\" are....busy.\nISIS' main branch is pretty focused on conflict within Afghanistan against the Taliban and as such hasn't had a plethora of Western targets to strike at. Other ISIS franchises have been acting more locally in their country of origin.\nA lot of other networks have been pretty badly crippled by ongoing counter-terrorism efforts and have scaled back or shifted operations. As much of a pig's breakfast as the US has made of terrorism screening and control efforts at the domestic level, we've had a number of years to refine things and get it right enough that we can catch most of the problems headed our way. At least the problems with the backing of actual organizations/networks.\nSimilarly, the US is out(ish) of Afghanistan and Iraq which means we're just not there to be the target of attacks or enflame sentiment towards us that makes us the target of attacks. We're just less exposed than we used to be.\nThe conflict media cycle has also been living and breathing Ukraine for a year now which has taken a lot of wind out of the attention sails for Islamic fundamentalist terrorism.",
">\n\nIt only seems that way if you are an American. If you are a European especially a French, however, jihadism and Islamism are constant threats that need to be destroyed. After the beheading of French schoolteacher Samuel Paty in October 2020, the \"centrist\" French president Emmanuel Macron and his government finally had enough and have unleashed a huge campaign against the enemies they refer to as Islamo-leftism and Islamist separatism.\nOf course, the liberal media in the United States and the UK hate what the French have been doing. The New York Times even published this opinion article victim blaming the French.\nColor-blind France will not tolerate any challenge to its secular and democratic Republican values including Muslim children. All French Muslims must uphold those values including the ban on hijabs.\nOverall, this is how the French view the paradox of tolerance and freedom of expression.\nEdit: Formatting",
">\n\nThat’s not Islamic terrorism that a coordinated attack by a subjugated and oppressed population in Israel.",
">\n\nTerrorism: \"the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.\" \nYou don't get to change the definition of words.",
">\n\nIn America we have white supremacist domestic terrorists as our biggest threat now",
">\n\nThe closer the date is to 09/11/2001and greater the melanin content the skin of the POTUS the more it matters according to the US right wing.",
">\n\nKurds in Syria helped crush Isis before Trump abandoned them. We pulled out of the middle east as well which was a large part of their hatred of us. Right wing extremists in America are also a far larger and still growing threat. They've been attacking Democrats, and FBI offices as well as trying to overthrow our democracy.",
">\n\nI mean, we just took out a leader in somolia like a week or so ago. You can google isis news... it's just not as prevalent in the news cycle. Probably got lots of monitoring systems going on in the background (obv) but ya know... now it's all Russia Russia Russia, wqr in Ukraine. Now there's the chinese balloon and whoever all is in cahoots over there.",
">\n\nBecause the FBI is doing a good job at it. Give them the powers to fight domestic terrorism and white supremacists, and I'll guarantee you, we will never see anything remotely resembling January 6 again.",
">\n\nIf the FBI was doing its job then January 6 would have never happened. The insurrectionists were being very open about what they wanted to do for weeks beforehand.\nEdit: Also, the FBI are white nationalists.",
">\n\nI would say that it's partly because in Europe, one strain of Islamic terrorism has essentially achieved all their goals.\nStarting with the murder of Theo van Gogh, from 2004-2020, you had an ideologically coherent and very successful terrorism campaign by Islamic radicals against what they perceive as \"blasphemy\" in European media (most spectacularly including the Charlie Hebdo killings and Salman Rushdie but aside from that mostly much more lowkey and less flashy than other Islamic terrorism like the Bataclan attacks). They essentially completely succeeded shutting down the publication of \"blasphemous images\" in the mainstream press (nobody today thinks this is worth getting murdered over), and toning down the \"blasphemy\" more generally.\nIn some sense, it's a model for how well targeted terrorism with limited objectives can work. I would expect most ecoterrorist campaigns to follow a similar trajectory.",
">\n\nI don't know if I can agree to quite that level of hyperbole, but it does seem like Islam focused on simply moving its influence into Europe rather than trying to fight the U.S. Countries like France seem to have much more of an Islamic influence than they did 20 or even 10 years ago, much to their detriment. It's a garbage ideology.",
">\n\nIn retrospect Islamic terrorism was hyped to justify plundering Middle Eastern resources and strengthen a global system of control. Apparently a better enemy was covid, its everywhere, invisible and can kill you at any time.",
">\n\nCovid is a legitimate enemy though. Killed magnitudes more people than terrorism did.",
">\n\nThe US Government stopped funding those groups so they aren’t a threat anymore.",
">\n\nIt's the media, hyping whatever \"crisis of the day\" is. They're the echo chamber for the Republicans who generate the \"crisis of the day\" to ensure hate and fear don't diminish enough for people to relax and live their lives.",
">\n\nIt didn't seem like that big of a big deal after we responded in January of 1991. Trust me, I was born the day after the military action started, and I knew nothing of any of it until September 11th.",
">\n\nTheres no suicide bomber volunteers? I think they try to get away with a knife now days.\nWould anyone like to blow themselves up for 10k? Theres a reward at the end."
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Because our partisan pundit driven media infrastructure can't walk and chew gum at the same time. Conditions in Afghanistan, Iran, Syria, and Yemen haven't improved. Things are actually worse in some regards. The Iranians are supporting Russia in Ukraine with tech and hardware. Similarly Syria is helping Russia with personnel.
The Republican party has abandoned public discussion surrounding foreign affairs. There is a libertarian strain to the Republican base that prefers isolation. So while traditional GOP members actively support aid to Ukraine and want stricter sanctions against Iran & Syria it isn't a discussion being had amongst pundits who serve are the party mouth pieces.
As public debate over foreign affairs has grown silent the public's awareness of foreign matters has shrunk. | [
"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
">\n\nI would classify it as intra-islamic terrorism.",
">\n\nI’m really not looking forward to having to deal with “Post-Modern Islamic Terrorism.”",
">\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\nThe biggest potential threat for Islamist (not Islamic, there's a difference) terrorism in the west post-9/11 was almost always \"lone wolf\" attacks against soft targets.\nWell, the decisive action against ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, and similar organizations both crippled their ability to fund such operations, diminished their reach via social media, and severely crippled their leadership structures. After all, nobody wants to take an afternoon drive and get hit with a slap chop missile that doesn't leave enough left to fill a doggy bag.",
">\n\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\n\nI'd edit that to the US, not the west. Europe has issues still, though they are less than years past as we have mostly destroyed the large organizations.",
">\n\nISIS is now only a shell of what it was before. After government forces recaptured Mosul, that was pretty much its last stand. It became relegated to being tiny and extremely demoralized fighting cells in the desert. Less war like conditions now and therefore less people being displaced. Many of the people who went there to fight with ISIS have become disillusioned after seeing ISIS for what it was. They are either being prosecuted in their home countries or rendered stateless after leaders of various countries have revoked their citizenships. \nToday, Iraq has entered a period of relative stability after ISIS had been significantly weakened and US forces being ejected by the Iraqi government. Syrians are still leaving Assad's regime, albeit at smaller numbers than before. Boko Haram's leader has been killed and its camps have been destroyed.\nA huge but here... Al-Shabaab is still a major concern but more as a domestic concern. Every year, there are several attacks in Mogadishu and other cities throughout Somalia.",
">\n\nI would add that a group of militants attacks Southern Tanzania and northern Mozambique.",
">\n\nI'm actually not sure they are gone but they're definitely in retreat. USA and friends capped a lot of their leadership. They're either in retreat and rebuilding, or just done. I can't answer for Europe but I can also say that the focus in the USA is shifting to domestic terror.\nSorry if my response is too brief. I don't believe the answers are that complex. Religious government is on the rise, authoritarianism also, so they're busy at home. Oppressing the women.",
">\n\nI believe this is what it is too. Focus has shifted.",
">\n\nBecause ISIS was destroyed. Tens of thousands of its fighters were annihilated. And more importantly, Saudi Arabia and the gulf states which exported fundamentalist Islamism are moderating a bit. \nIt’s still a major problem though, just not in the West. The Sahel for instance is constantly ravaged by Islamist violence and there was just recently a massive terror attack in Pakistan.",
">\n\nProbably mainly because there haven't been any major Islamist terror attacks lately, while our attention has been drawn away by all the other scary stuff happening. Also Al Qaeda and ISIS are only a shadow of their former selves by now.",
">\n\nHere in France, there's still several \"Islamic terrorism-adjacent\" murders each year - ie. acts carried out by mentally deranged people that have latched onto Islamism as a motivating idealogy - there was a mass stabbing in Gare du Nord about two weeks ago.",
">\n\nThat’s scary, and I don’t think we even heard about it over here",
">\n\nA) All the leaders are dead. \nB) They’ve probably seen all the chaos in the West over the past decade and realize attacking is a waste of time.",
">\n\nBecause there's a war on Christmas, CRT, the border, and litter boxes in schools happening instead. It will come around again. Our tiny brains can only deal with 3 or 4 drumbeats at a time.",
">\n\nThe GOP can't really harp on Islamic terrorism while American rightwing terrorists are on the uptick.",
">\n\nI think COVID is the thing you're missing. It kinda distracted everyone for a while, and it killed a lot more people than terrorists ever did. Terrorism was always a massively-overinflated threat for the US and Europe, so it was easy to ignore it when an actual threat came along.",
">\n\nNow it’s Christian nationalism that’s our biggest national threat. Go figure",
">\n\nEh, Christian extremists haven't flown two planes into skyscrapers or shot up an LGBT nightclub or bombed a stadium full of kids or beheaded a teacher because he dared to draw Jesus. I'd say we're a ways away from Christian nationalism being a threat.",
">\n\nNo. They bomb abortion clinics and attack liberals and democrats. They launch insurrections when their candidate loses. Christian extremists call for a real-life version of Gilead here in America. They are a much bigger threat than Islamic radicals because they're homegrown terrorists.",
">\n\nAnd my point is that a possible threat is far better than two planes crashing into the Twin Towers, which was an actual threat.",
">\n\nBut it’s not a threat now. It’s an event that happened two decades ago. To the point of the OP, this type of extremism is no longer viewed as a threat in America. Recent history suggests that terrorism in the US will much more likely be committed by right wing Americans instead. We shouldn’t need another OKC bombing scale attack to acknowledge that.",
">\n\nOnly if you bought into the media hype, especially Republican media that needs to instill fear and dread of the \"other\". I actually had a neighbor who was certain Obama would usher in an era of Sharia law in the US during that time period.\nI tried explaining that ISIS and other such extremist Islamic worldviews were medieval in nature, and incapable of successfully propagating (much) in the modern world. They would eventually just burn out on their own. Worldviews can get outcompeted by more successful ones, just like species can. The vast majority of modern people simply do not want to be beheaded (or ruled) by extremists of any religion or ideology. But too many people unquestionably absorb the narratives they hear on tv.\nAnd of course the US needs an enemy du jour to justify its $1T/year war budget. So the American people will always be heavily propagandized by the state (corporate) media to fear the designated \"terrorist\" group, so they don't ever ask if all that money might otherwise be spent on healthcare, a living wage, or some other unicorn and puppies fantasy like that.",
">\n\nI know your ass isn’t blaming the “republican media” when Obama literally drone strikes so many people we ran out of bombs",
">\n\nI’m sorry if I didn’t structure my essay as clearly as I intended. \nBoth sides of the US corporate media often push the same false narratives but for different purposes. The Republicans pushed “radical Islamic terrorism” because they hate and fear “foreign” people especially if they are “non Christian”. And because the Democrats are “soft on terror” and “want Sharia law”.\nThe Democrats pushed for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, and yes unquestioningly allowed Obama’s and then trump’s drone attacks, because “they attacked us on 9/11” and “they are the bad terrorists we must fight over there so they can’t blow us up here” as the pretext (which was also Bush Junior’s line of reasoning), but more truly because the military industrial complex needs liberals to keep paying them hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars every year. \nRepublicans basically hate and fear all Muslims (remember they cheered trump’s Muslim ban), while liberals are only afraid of the “extremist” Muslims that CNN and the NYT tell them to fear. But in both cases, most Americans lost their taste for endless war in the Middle East. It’s much easier to sell them on a new endless war in the Ukraine. Especially since Putin clearly also is a power hungry dictator who made the calculation that he could more easily maintain power as a “war president”, much as the calculation Cheney/Bush made when they decided to invade Iraq (remember George Tenet said it was going to be a “slam dunk” and then we were stuck there for a decade — but the people still re-elected the dumbest and most incompetent president we ever had up to that point). \nBoth political parties are the two wings of the capitalist corporatist militarist party that runs the United States. The American people (all of them regardless of affiliation, religious belief, and education level) are the most heavily propagandized people in the history of the world. The American people could have voted for someone who voted against the Iraq war and who has vocally been against arming the Saudi’s in their Yemen war (Bernie Sanders) in 2016 and then again in 2020 but they voted for the War Mongers of both parties, both times. The vast majority of all Americans would rather spend their hard earned money on keeping their military bloated, rather than giving themselves universal single-payer healthcare or a guaranteed livable wage.",
">\n\nEvery single media outlet pushed war. candi rice and Hilary Clinton were literally just on a podcast still talking about WMD. Every news outlet lied. Every politician lied. The republicans just wore it on their sleeve more and the dems were dropping bombs with HOPE on them.\nEdit: the DNC trashed Bernie’s campaign both times and he rolled over. There is no hope for an anti war party in America. Is there any legitimate pushback with Ukraine ? If you criticize the escalation you get attacked. Was the same thing after 9/11.",
">\n\nThe right wing wants everyone to fear transgender people now. They are the new \"other\" to hate.",
">\n\nMaGA Republicans and cancel culture crazies are probably the new terrorists while Islamists are sitting quietly in the back of the bus planning the next 9-11",
">\n\nCouple of reasons.\nFor starters, a lot of the big catalysts for \"Islamic terrorism\" are....busy.\nISIS' main branch is pretty focused on conflict within Afghanistan against the Taliban and as such hasn't had a plethora of Western targets to strike at. Other ISIS franchises have been acting more locally in their country of origin.\nA lot of other networks have been pretty badly crippled by ongoing counter-terrorism efforts and have scaled back or shifted operations. As much of a pig's breakfast as the US has made of terrorism screening and control efforts at the domestic level, we've had a number of years to refine things and get it right enough that we can catch most of the problems headed our way. At least the problems with the backing of actual organizations/networks.\nSimilarly, the US is out(ish) of Afghanistan and Iraq which means we're just not there to be the target of attacks or enflame sentiment towards us that makes us the target of attacks. We're just less exposed than we used to be.\nThe conflict media cycle has also been living and breathing Ukraine for a year now which has taken a lot of wind out of the attention sails for Islamic fundamentalist terrorism.",
">\n\nIt only seems that way if you are an American. If you are a European especially a French, however, jihadism and Islamism are constant threats that need to be destroyed. After the beheading of French schoolteacher Samuel Paty in October 2020, the \"centrist\" French president Emmanuel Macron and his government finally had enough and have unleashed a huge campaign against the enemies they refer to as Islamo-leftism and Islamist separatism.\nOf course, the liberal media in the United States and the UK hate what the French have been doing. The New York Times even published this opinion article victim blaming the French.\nColor-blind France will not tolerate any challenge to its secular and democratic Republican values including Muslim children. All French Muslims must uphold those values including the ban on hijabs.\nOverall, this is how the French view the paradox of tolerance and freedom of expression.\nEdit: Formatting",
">\n\nThat’s not Islamic terrorism that a coordinated attack by a subjugated and oppressed population in Israel.",
">\n\nTerrorism: \"the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.\" \nYou don't get to change the definition of words.",
">\n\nIn America we have white supremacist domestic terrorists as our biggest threat now",
">\n\nThe closer the date is to 09/11/2001and greater the melanin content the skin of the POTUS the more it matters according to the US right wing.",
">\n\nKurds in Syria helped crush Isis before Trump abandoned them. We pulled out of the middle east as well which was a large part of their hatred of us. Right wing extremists in America are also a far larger and still growing threat. They've been attacking Democrats, and FBI offices as well as trying to overthrow our democracy.",
">\n\nI mean, we just took out a leader in somolia like a week or so ago. You can google isis news... it's just not as prevalent in the news cycle. Probably got lots of monitoring systems going on in the background (obv) but ya know... now it's all Russia Russia Russia, wqr in Ukraine. Now there's the chinese balloon and whoever all is in cahoots over there.",
">\n\nBecause the FBI is doing a good job at it. Give them the powers to fight domestic terrorism and white supremacists, and I'll guarantee you, we will never see anything remotely resembling January 6 again.",
">\n\nIf the FBI was doing its job then January 6 would have never happened. The insurrectionists were being very open about what they wanted to do for weeks beforehand.\nEdit: Also, the FBI are white nationalists.",
">\n\nI would say that it's partly because in Europe, one strain of Islamic terrorism has essentially achieved all their goals.\nStarting with the murder of Theo van Gogh, from 2004-2020, you had an ideologically coherent and very successful terrorism campaign by Islamic radicals against what they perceive as \"blasphemy\" in European media (most spectacularly including the Charlie Hebdo killings and Salman Rushdie but aside from that mostly much more lowkey and less flashy than other Islamic terrorism like the Bataclan attacks). They essentially completely succeeded shutting down the publication of \"blasphemous images\" in the mainstream press (nobody today thinks this is worth getting murdered over), and toning down the \"blasphemy\" more generally.\nIn some sense, it's a model for how well targeted terrorism with limited objectives can work. I would expect most ecoterrorist campaigns to follow a similar trajectory.",
">\n\nI don't know if I can agree to quite that level of hyperbole, but it does seem like Islam focused on simply moving its influence into Europe rather than trying to fight the U.S. Countries like France seem to have much more of an Islamic influence than they did 20 or even 10 years ago, much to their detriment. It's a garbage ideology.",
">\n\nIn retrospect Islamic terrorism was hyped to justify plundering Middle Eastern resources and strengthen a global system of control. Apparently a better enemy was covid, its everywhere, invisible and can kill you at any time.",
">\n\nCovid is a legitimate enemy though. Killed magnitudes more people than terrorism did.",
">\n\nThe US Government stopped funding those groups so they aren’t a threat anymore.",
">\n\nIt's the media, hyping whatever \"crisis of the day\" is. They're the echo chamber for the Republicans who generate the \"crisis of the day\" to ensure hate and fear don't diminish enough for people to relax and live their lives.",
">\n\nIt didn't seem like that big of a big deal after we responded in January of 1991. Trust me, I was born the day after the military action started, and I knew nothing of any of it until September 11th.",
">\n\nTheres no suicide bomber volunteers? I think they try to get away with a knife now days.\nWould anyone like to blow themselves up for 10k? Theres a reward at the end.",
">\n\nThey are just letting us eat each other alive instead. More effective and much cheaper."
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Besides what many people are saying (which is correct of course), there’s also just the simple fact that for the last 6 years the news cycle has completely shifted away from stuff like that (covid, war, trump). We all just get scared of whatever they decide to show us as being a threat every year. | [
"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
">\n\nI would classify it as intra-islamic terrorism.",
">\n\nI’m really not looking forward to having to deal with “Post-Modern Islamic Terrorism.”",
">\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\nThe biggest potential threat for Islamist (not Islamic, there's a difference) terrorism in the west post-9/11 was almost always \"lone wolf\" attacks against soft targets.\nWell, the decisive action against ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, and similar organizations both crippled their ability to fund such operations, diminished their reach via social media, and severely crippled their leadership structures. After all, nobody wants to take an afternoon drive and get hit with a slap chop missile that doesn't leave enough left to fill a doggy bag.",
">\n\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\n\nI'd edit that to the US, not the west. Europe has issues still, though they are less than years past as we have mostly destroyed the large organizations.",
">\n\nISIS is now only a shell of what it was before. After government forces recaptured Mosul, that was pretty much its last stand. It became relegated to being tiny and extremely demoralized fighting cells in the desert. Less war like conditions now and therefore less people being displaced. Many of the people who went there to fight with ISIS have become disillusioned after seeing ISIS for what it was. They are either being prosecuted in their home countries or rendered stateless after leaders of various countries have revoked their citizenships. \nToday, Iraq has entered a period of relative stability after ISIS had been significantly weakened and US forces being ejected by the Iraqi government. Syrians are still leaving Assad's regime, albeit at smaller numbers than before. Boko Haram's leader has been killed and its camps have been destroyed.\nA huge but here... Al-Shabaab is still a major concern but more as a domestic concern. Every year, there are several attacks in Mogadishu and other cities throughout Somalia.",
">\n\nI would add that a group of militants attacks Southern Tanzania and northern Mozambique.",
">\n\nI'm actually not sure they are gone but they're definitely in retreat. USA and friends capped a lot of their leadership. They're either in retreat and rebuilding, or just done. I can't answer for Europe but I can also say that the focus in the USA is shifting to domestic terror.\nSorry if my response is too brief. I don't believe the answers are that complex. Religious government is on the rise, authoritarianism also, so they're busy at home. Oppressing the women.",
">\n\nI believe this is what it is too. Focus has shifted.",
">\n\nBecause ISIS was destroyed. Tens of thousands of its fighters were annihilated. And more importantly, Saudi Arabia and the gulf states which exported fundamentalist Islamism are moderating a bit. \nIt’s still a major problem though, just not in the West. The Sahel for instance is constantly ravaged by Islamist violence and there was just recently a massive terror attack in Pakistan.",
">\n\nProbably mainly because there haven't been any major Islamist terror attacks lately, while our attention has been drawn away by all the other scary stuff happening. Also Al Qaeda and ISIS are only a shadow of their former selves by now.",
">\n\nHere in France, there's still several \"Islamic terrorism-adjacent\" murders each year - ie. acts carried out by mentally deranged people that have latched onto Islamism as a motivating idealogy - there was a mass stabbing in Gare du Nord about two weeks ago.",
">\n\nThat’s scary, and I don’t think we even heard about it over here",
">\n\nA) All the leaders are dead. \nB) They’ve probably seen all the chaos in the West over the past decade and realize attacking is a waste of time.",
">\n\nBecause there's a war on Christmas, CRT, the border, and litter boxes in schools happening instead. It will come around again. Our tiny brains can only deal with 3 or 4 drumbeats at a time.",
">\n\nThe GOP can't really harp on Islamic terrorism while American rightwing terrorists are on the uptick.",
">\n\nI think COVID is the thing you're missing. It kinda distracted everyone for a while, and it killed a lot more people than terrorists ever did. Terrorism was always a massively-overinflated threat for the US and Europe, so it was easy to ignore it when an actual threat came along.",
">\n\nNow it’s Christian nationalism that’s our biggest national threat. Go figure",
">\n\nEh, Christian extremists haven't flown two planes into skyscrapers or shot up an LGBT nightclub or bombed a stadium full of kids or beheaded a teacher because he dared to draw Jesus. I'd say we're a ways away from Christian nationalism being a threat.",
">\n\nNo. They bomb abortion clinics and attack liberals and democrats. They launch insurrections when their candidate loses. Christian extremists call for a real-life version of Gilead here in America. They are a much bigger threat than Islamic radicals because they're homegrown terrorists.",
">\n\nAnd my point is that a possible threat is far better than two planes crashing into the Twin Towers, which was an actual threat.",
">\n\nBut it’s not a threat now. It’s an event that happened two decades ago. To the point of the OP, this type of extremism is no longer viewed as a threat in America. Recent history suggests that terrorism in the US will much more likely be committed by right wing Americans instead. We shouldn’t need another OKC bombing scale attack to acknowledge that.",
">\n\nOnly if you bought into the media hype, especially Republican media that needs to instill fear and dread of the \"other\". I actually had a neighbor who was certain Obama would usher in an era of Sharia law in the US during that time period.\nI tried explaining that ISIS and other such extremist Islamic worldviews were medieval in nature, and incapable of successfully propagating (much) in the modern world. They would eventually just burn out on their own. Worldviews can get outcompeted by more successful ones, just like species can. The vast majority of modern people simply do not want to be beheaded (or ruled) by extremists of any religion or ideology. But too many people unquestionably absorb the narratives they hear on tv.\nAnd of course the US needs an enemy du jour to justify its $1T/year war budget. So the American people will always be heavily propagandized by the state (corporate) media to fear the designated \"terrorist\" group, so they don't ever ask if all that money might otherwise be spent on healthcare, a living wage, or some other unicorn and puppies fantasy like that.",
">\n\nI know your ass isn’t blaming the “republican media” when Obama literally drone strikes so many people we ran out of bombs",
">\n\nI’m sorry if I didn’t structure my essay as clearly as I intended. \nBoth sides of the US corporate media often push the same false narratives but for different purposes. The Republicans pushed “radical Islamic terrorism” because they hate and fear “foreign” people especially if they are “non Christian”. And because the Democrats are “soft on terror” and “want Sharia law”.\nThe Democrats pushed for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, and yes unquestioningly allowed Obama’s and then trump’s drone attacks, because “they attacked us on 9/11” and “they are the bad terrorists we must fight over there so they can’t blow us up here” as the pretext (which was also Bush Junior’s line of reasoning), but more truly because the military industrial complex needs liberals to keep paying them hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars every year. \nRepublicans basically hate and fear all Muslims (remember they cheered trump’s Muslim ban), while liberals are only afraid of the “extremist” Muslims that CNN and the NYT tell them to fear. But in both cases, most Americans lost their taste for endless war in the Middle East. It’s much easier to sell them on a new endless war in the Ukraine. Especially since Putin clearly also is a power hungry dictator who made the calculation that he could more easily maintain power as a “war president”, much as the calculation Cheney/Bush made when they decided to invade Iraq (remember George Tenet said it was going to be a “slam dunk” and then we were stuck there for a decade — but the people still re-elected the dumbest and most incompetent president we ever had up to that point). \nBoth political parties are the two wings of the capitalist corporatist militarist party that runs the United States. The American people (all of them regardless of affiliation, religious belief, and education level) are the most heavily propagandized people in the history of the world. The American people could have voted for someone who voted against the Iraq war and who has vocally been against arming the Saudi’s in their Yemen war (Bernie Sanders) in 2016 and then again in 2020 but they voted for the War Mongers of both parties, both times. The vast majority of all Americans would rather spend their hard earned money on keeping their military bloated, rather than giving themselves universal single-payer healthcare or a guaranteed livable wage.",
">\n\nEvery single media outlet pushed war. candi rice and Hilary Clinton were literally just on a podcast still talking about WMD. Every news outlet lied. Every politician lied. The republicans just wore it on their sleeve more and the dems were dropping bombs with HOPE on them.\nEdit: the DNC trashed Bernie’s campaign both times and he rolled over. There is no hope for an anti war party in America. Is there any legitimate pushback with Ukraine ? If you criticize the escalation you get attacked. Was the same thing after 9/11.",
">\n\nThe right wing wants everyone to fear transgender people now. They are the new \"other\" to hate.",
">\n\nMaGA Republicans and cancel culture crazies are probably the new terrorists while Islamists are sitting quietly in the back of the bus planning the next 9-11",
">\n\nCouple of reasons.\nFor starters, a lot of the big catalysts for \"Islamic terrorism\" are....busy.\nISIS' main branch is pretty focused on conflict within Afghanistan against the Taliban and as such hasn't had a plethora of Western targets to strike at. Other ISIS franchises have been acting more locally in their country of origin.\nA lot of other networks have been pretty badly crippled by ongoing counter-terrorism efforts and have scaled back or shifted operations. As much of a pig's breakfast as the US has made of terrorism screening and control efforts at the domestic level, we've had a number of years to refine things and get it right enough that we can catch most of the problems headed our way. At least the problems with the backing of actual organizations/networks.\nSimilarly, the US is out(ish) of Afghanistan and Iraq which means we're just not there to be the target of attacks or enflame sentiment towards us that makes us the target of attacks. We're just less exposed than we used to be.\nThe conflict media cycle has also been living and breathing Ukraine for a year now which has taken a lot of wind out of the attention sails for Islamic fundamentalist terrorism.",
">\n\nIt only seems that way if you are an American. If you are a European especially a French, however, jihadism and Islamism are constant threats that need to be destroyed. After the beheading of French schoolteacher Samuel Paty in October 2020, the \"centrist\" French president Emmanuel Macron and his government finally had enough and have unleashed a huge campaign against the enemies they refer to as Islamo-leftism and Islamist separatism.\nOf course, the liberal media in the United States and the UK hate what the French have been doing. The New York Times even published this opinion article victim blaming the French.\nColor-blind France will not tolerate any challenge to its secular and democratic Republican values including Muslim children. All French Muslims must uphold those values including the ban on hijabs.\nOverall, this is how the French view the paradox of tolerance and freedom of expression.\nEdit: Formatting",
">\n\nThat’s not Islamic terrorism that a coordinated attack by a subjugated and oppressed population in Israel.",
">\n\nTerrorism: \"the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.\" \nYou don't get to change the definition of words.",
">\n\nIn America we have white supremacist domestic terrorists as our biggest threat now",
">\n\nThe closer the date is to 09/11/2001and greater the melanin content the skin of the POTUS the more it matters according to the US right wing.",
">\n\nKurds in Syria helped crush Isis before Trump abandoned them. We pulled out of the middle east as well which was a large part of their hatred of us. Right wing extremists in America are also a far larger and still growing threat. They've been attacking Democrats, and FBI offices as well as trying to overthrow our democracy.",
">\n\nI mean, we just took out a leader in somolia like a week or so ago. You can google isis news... it's just not as prevalent in the news cycle. Probably got lots of monitoring systems going on in the background (obv) but ya know... now it's all Russia Russia Russia, wqr in Ukraine. Now there's the chinese balloon and whoever all is in cahoots over there.",
">\n\nBecause the FBI is doing a good job at it. Give them the powers to fight domestic terrorism and white supremacists, and I'll guarantee you, we will never see anything remotely resembling January 6 again.",
">\n\nIf the FBI was doing its job then January 6 would have never happened. The insurrectionists were being very open about what they wanted to do for weeks beforehand.\nEdit: Also, the FBI are white nationalists.",
">\n\nI would say that it's partly because in Europe, one strain of Islamic terrorism has essentially achieved all their goals.\nStarting with the murder of Theo van Gogh, from 2004-2020, you had an ideologically coherent and very successful terrorism campaign by Islamic radicals against what they perceive as \"blasphemy\" in European media (most spectacularly including the Charlie Hebdo killings and Salman Rushdie but aside from that mostly much more lowkey and less flashy than other Islamic terrorism like the Bataclan attacks). They essentially completely succeeded shutting down the publication of \"blasphemous images\" in the mainstream press (nobody today thinks this is worth getting murdered over), and toning down the \"blasphemy\" more generally.\nIn some sense, it's a model for how well targeted terrorism with limited objectives can work. I would expect most ecoterrorist campaigns to follow a similar trajectory.",
">\n\nI don't know if I can agree to quite that level of hyperbole, but it does seem like Islam focused on simply moving its influence into Europe rather than trying to fight the U.S. Countries like France seem to have much more of an Islamic influence than they did 20 or even 10 years ago, much to their detriment. It's a garbage ideology.",
">\n\nIn retrospect Islamic terrorism was hyped to justify plundering Middle Eastern resources and strengthen a global system of control. Apparently a better enemy was covid, its everywhere, invisible and can kill you at any time.",
">\n\nCovid is a legitimate enemy though. Killed magnitudes more people than terrorism did.",
">\n\nThe US Government stopped funding those groups so they aren’t a threat anymore.",
">\n\nIt's the media, hyping whatever \"crisis of the day\" is. They're the echo chamber for the Republicans who generate the \"crisis of the day\" to ensure hate and fear don't diminish enough for people to relax and live their lives.",
">\n\nIt didn't seem like that big of a big deal after we responded in January of 1991. Trust me, I was born the day after the military action started, and I knew nothing of any of it until September 11th.",
">\n\nTheres no suicide bomber volunteers? I think they try to get away with a knife now days.\nWould anyone like to blow themselves up for 10k? Theres a reward at the end.",
">\n\nThey are just letting us eat each other alive instead. More effective and much cheaper.",
">\n\nBecause our partisan pundit driven media infrastructure can't walk and chew gum at the same time. Conditions in Afghanistan, Iran, Syria, and Yemen haven't improved. Things are actually worse in some regards. The Iranians are supporting Russia in Ukraine with tech and hardware. Similarly Syria is helping Russia with personnel. \nThe Republican party has abandoned public discussion surrounding foreign affairs. There is a libertarian strain to the Republican base that prefers isolation. So while traditional GOP members actively support aid to Ukraine and want stricter sanctions against Iran & Syria it isn't a discussion being had amongst pundits who serve are the party mouth pieces. \nAs public debate over foreign affairs has grown silent the public's awareness of foreign matters has shrunk."
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Is it possible that when President Biden finally got us out of the jrbush Wars for Oil, the jihadists lost their "recruiting poster" for attacks against the West, and they're not getting volunteers anymore? Might also be the realization that we've gotten real good at just killing the leaders, so its not as much fun for them to send their lemmings out to attack us. I'm leaning toward the second possibility. | [
"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
">\n\nI would classify it as intra-islamic terrorism.",
">\n\nI’m really not looking forward to having to deal with “Post-Modern Islamic Terrorism.”",
">\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\nThe biggest potential threat for Islamist (not Islamic, there's a difference) terrorism in the west post-9/11 was almost always \"lone wolf\" attacks against soft targets.\nWell, the decisive action against ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, and similar organizations both crippled their ability to fund such operations, diminished their reach via social media, and severely crippled their leadership structures. After all, nobody wants to take an afternoon drive and get hit with a slap chop missile that doesn't leave enough left to fill a doggy bag.",
">\n\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\n\nI'd edit that to the US, not the west. Europe has issues still, though they are less than years past as we have mostly destroyed the large organizations.",
">\n\nISIS is now only a shell of what it was before. After government forces recaptured Mosul, that was pretty much its last stand. It became relegated to being tiny and extremely demoralized fighting cells in the desert. Less war like conditions now and therefore less people being displaced. Many of the people who went there to fight with ISIS have become disillusioned after seeing ISIS for what it was. They are either being prosecuted in their home countries or rendered stateless after leaders of various countries have revoked their citizenships. \nToday, Iraq has entered a period of relative stability after ISIS had been significantly weakened and US forces being ejected by the Iraqi government. Syrians are still leaving Assad's regime, albeit at smaller numbers than before. Boko Haram's leader has been killed and its camps have been destroyed.\nA huge but here... Al-Shabaab is still a major concern but more as a domestic concern. Every year, there are several attacks in Mogadishu and other cities throughout Somalia.",
">\n\nI would add that a group of militants attacks Southern Tanzania and northern Mozambique.",
">\n\nI'm actually not sure they are gone but they're definitely in retreat. USA and friends capped a lot of their leadership. They're either in retreat and rebuilding, or just done. I can't answer for Europe but I can also say that the focus in the USA is shifting to domestic terror.\nSorry if my response is too brief. I don't believe the answers are that complex. Religious government is on the rise, authoritarianism also, so they're busy at home. Oppressing the women.",
">\n\nI believe this is what it is too. Focus has shifted.",
">\n\nBecause ISIS was destroyed. Tens of thousands of its fighters were annihilated. And more importantly, Saudi Arabia and the gulf states which exported fundamentalist Islamism are moderating a bit. \nIt’s still a major problem though, just not in the West. The Sahel for instance is constantly ravaged by Islamist violence and there was just recently a massive terror attack in Pakistan.",
">\n\nProbably mainly because there haven't been any major Islamist terror attacks lately, while our attention has been drawn away by all the other scary stuff happening. Also Al Qaeda and ISIS are only a shadow of their former selves by now.",
">\n\nHere in France, there's still several \"Islamic terrorism-adjacent\" murders each year - ie. acts carried out by mentally deranged people that have latched onto Islamism as a motivating idealogy - there was a mass stabbing in Gare du Nord about two weeks ago.",
">\n\nThat’s scary, and I don’t think we even heard about it over here",
">\n\nA) All the leaders are dead. \nB) They’ve probably seen all the chaos in the West over the past decade and realize attacking is a waste of time.",
">\n\nBecause there's a war on Christmas, CRT, the border, and litter boxes in schools happening instead. It will come around again. Our tiny brains can only deal with 3 or 4 drumbeats at a time.",
">\n\nThe GOP can't really harp on Islamic terrorism while American rightwing terrorists are on the uptick.",
">\n\nI think COVID is the thing you're missing. It kinda distracted everyone for a while, and it killed a lot more people than terrorists ever did. Terrorism was always a massively-overinflated threat for the US and Europe, so it was easy to ignore it when an actual threat came along.",
">\n\nNow it’s Christian nationalism that’s our biggest national threat. Go figure",
">\n\nEh, Christian extremists haven't flown two planes into skyscrapers or shot up an LGBT nightclub or bombed a stadium full of kids or beheaded a teacher because he dared to draw Jesus. I'd say we're a ways away from Christian nationalism being a threat.",
">\n\nNo. They bomb abortion clinics and attack liberals and democrats. They launch insurrections when their candidate loses. Christian extremists call for a real-life version of Gilead here in America. They are a much bigger threat than Islamic radicals because they're homegrown terrorists.",
">\n\nAnd my point is that a possible threat is far better than two planes crashing into the Twin Towers, which was an actual threat.",
">\n\nBut it’s not a threat now. It’s an event that happened two decades ago. To the point of the OP, this type of extremism is no longer viewed as a threat in America. Recent history suggests that terrorism in the US will much more likely be committed by right wing Americans instead. We shouldn’t need another OKC bombing scale attack to acknowledge that.",
">\n\nOnly if you bought into the media hype, especially Republican media that needs to instill fear and dread of the \"other\". I actually had a neighbor who was certain Obama would usher in an era of Sharia law in the US during that time period.\nI tried explaining that ISIS and other such extremist Islamic worldviews were medieval in nature, and incapable of successfully propagating (much) in the modern world. They would eventually just burn out on their own. Worldviews can get outcompeted by more successful ones, just like species can. The vast majority of modern people simply do not want to be beheaded (or ruled) by extremists of any religion or ideology. But too many people unquestionably absorb the narratives they hear on tv.\nAnd of course the US needs an enemy du jour to justify its $1T/year war budget. So the American people will always be heavily propagandized by the state (corporate) media to fear the designated \"terrorist\" group, so they don't ever ask if all that money might otherwise be spent on healthcare, a living wage, or some other unicorn and puppies fantasy like that.",
">\n\nI know your ass isn’t blaming the “republican media” when Obama literally drone strikes so many people we ran out of bombs",
">\n\nI’m sorry if I didn’t structure my essay as clearly as I intended. \nBoth sides of the US corporate media often push the same false narratives but for different purposes. The Republicans pushed “radical Islamic terrorism” because they hate and fear “foreign” people especially if they are “non Christian”. And because the Democrats are “soft on terror” and “want Sharia law”.\nThe Democrats pushed for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, and yes unquestioningly allowed Obama’s and then trump’s drone attacks, because “they attacked us on 9/11” and “they are the bad terrorists we must fight over there so they can’t blow us up here” as the pretext (which was also Bush Junior’s line of reasoning), but more truly because the military industrial complex needs liberals to keep paying them hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars every year. \nRepublicans basically hate and fear all Muslims (remember they cheered trump’s Muslim ban), while liberals are only afraid of the “extremist” Muslims that CNN and the NYT tell them to fear. But in both cases, most Americans lost their taste for endless war in the Middle East. It’s much easier to sell them on a new endless war in the Ukraine. Especially since Putin clearly also is a power hungry dictator who made the calculation that he could more easily maintain power as a “war president”, much as the calculation Cheney/Bush made when they decided to invade Iraq (remember George Tenet said it was going to be a “slam dunk” and then we were stuck there for a decade — but the people still re-elected the dumbest and most incompetent president we ever had up to that point). \nBoth political parties are the two wings of the capitalist corporatist militarist party that runs the United States. The American people (all of them regardless of affiliation, religious belief, and education level) are the most heavily propagandized people in the history of the world. The American people could have voted for someone who voted against the Iraq war and who has vocally been against arming the Saudi’s in their Yemen war (Bernie Sanders) in 2016 and then again in 2020 but they voted for the War Mongers of both parties, both times. The vast majority of all Americans would rather spend their hard earned money on keeping their military bloated, rather than giving themselves universal single-payer healthcare or a guaranteed livable wage.",
">\n\nEvery single media outlet pushed war. candi rice and Hilary Clinton were literally just on a podcast still talking about WMD. Every news outlet lied. Every politician lied. The republicans just wore it on their sleeve more and the dems were dropping bombs with HOPE on them.\nEdit: the DNC trashed Bernie’s campaign both times and he rolled over. There is no hope for an anti war party in America. Is there any legitimate pushback with Ukraine ? If you criticize the escalation you get attacked. Was the same thing after 9/11.",
">\n\nThe right wing wants everyone to fear transgender people now. They are the new \"other\" to hate.",
">\n\nMaGA Republicans and cancel culture crazies are probably the new terrorists while Islamists are sitting quietly in the back of the bus planning the next 9-11",
">\n\nCouple of reasons.\nFor starters, a lot of the big catalysts for \"Islamic terrorism\" are....busy.\nISIS' main branch is pretty focused on conflict within Afghanistan against the Taliban and as such hasn't had a plethora of Western targets to strike at. Other ISIS franchises have been acting more locally in their country of origin.\nA lot of other networks have been pretty badly crippled by ongoing counter-terrorism efforts and have scaled back or shifted operations. As much of a pig's breakfast as the US has made of terrorism screening and control efforts at the domestic level, we've had a number of years to refine things and get it right enough that we can catch most of the problems headed our way. At least the problems with the backing of actual organizations/networks.\nSimilarly, the US is out(ish) of Afghanistan and Iraq which means we're just not there to be the target of attacks or enflame sentiment towards us that makes us the target of attacks. We're just less exposed than we used to be.\nThe conflict media cycle has also been living and breathing Ukraine for a year now which has taken a lot of wind out of the attention sails for Islamic fundamentalist terrorism.",
">\n\nIt only seems that way if you are an American. If you are a European especially a French, however, jihadism and Islamism are constant threats that need to be destroyed. After the beheading of French schoolteacher Samuel Paty in October 2020, the \"centrist\" French president Emmanuel Macron and his government finally had enough and have unleashed a huge campaign against the enemies they refer to as Islamo-leftism and Islamist separatism.\nOf course, the liberal media in the United States and the UK hate what the French have been doing. The New York Times even published this opinion article victim blaming the French.\nColor-blind France will not tolerate any challenge to its secular and democratic Republican values including Muslim children. All French Muslims must uphold those values including the ban on hijabs.\nOverall, this is how the French view the paradox of tolerance and freedom of expression.\nEdit: Formatting",
">\n\nThat’s not Islamic terrorism that a coordinated attack by a subjugated and oppressed population in Israel.",
">\n\nTerrorism: \"the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.\" \nYou don't get to change the definition of words.",
">\n\nIn America we have white supremacist domestic terrorists as our biggest threat now",
">\n\nThe closer the date is to 09/11/2001and greater the melanin content the skin of the POTUS the more it matters according to the US right wing.",
">\n\nKurds in Syria helped crush Isis before Trump abandoned them. We pulled out of the middle east as well which was a large part of their hatred of us. Right wing extremists in America are also a far larger and still growing threat. They've been attacking Democrats, and FBI offices as well as trying to overthrow our democracy.",
">\n\nI mean, we just took out a leader in somolia like a week or so ago. You can google isis news... it's just not as prevalent in the news cycle. Probably got lots of monitoring systems going on in the background (obv) but ya know... now it's all Russia Russia Russia, wqr in Ukraine. Now there's the chinese balloon and whoever all is in cahoots over there.",
">\n\nBecause the FBI is doing a good job at it. Give them the powers to fight domestic terrorism and white supremacists, and I'll guarantee you, we will never see anything remotely resembling January 6 again.",
">\n\nIf the FBI was doing its job then January 6 would have never happened. The insurrectionists were being very open about what they wanted to do for weeks beforehand.\nEdit: Also, the FBI are white nationalists.",
">\n\nI would say that it's partly because in Europe, one strain of Islamic terrorism has essentially achieved all their goals.\nStarting with the murder of Theo van Gogh, from 2004-2020, you had an ideologically coherent and very successful terrorism campaign by Islamic radicals against what they perceive as \"blasphemy\" in European media (most spectacularly including the Charlie Hebdo killings and Salman Rushdie but aside from that mostly much more lowkey and less flashy than other Islamic terrorism like the Bataclan attacks). They essentially completely succeeded shutting down the publication of \"blasphemous images\" in the mainstream press (nobody today thinks this is worth getting murdered over), and toning down the \"blasphemy\" more generally.\nIn some sense, it's a model for how well targeted terrorism with limited objectives can work. I would expect most ecoterrorist campaigns to follow a similar trajectory.",
">\n\nI don't know if I can agree to quite that level of hyperbole, but it does seem like Islam focused on simply moving its influence into Europe rather than trying to fight the U.S. Countries like France seem to have much more of an Islamic influence than they did 20 or even 10 years ago, much to their detriment. It's a garbage ideology.",
">\n\nIn retrospect Islamic terrorism was hyped to justify plundering Middle Eastern resources and strengthen a global system of control. Apparently a better enemy was covid, its everywhere, invisible and can kill you at any time.",
">\n\nCovid is a legitimate enemy though. Killed magnitudes more people than terrorism did.",
">\n\nThe US Government stopped funding those groups so they aren’t a threat anymore.",
">\n\nIt's the media, hyping whatever \"crisis of the day\" is. They're the echo chamber for the Republicans who generate the \"crisis of the day\" to ensure hate and fear don't diminish enough for people to relax and live their lives.",
">\n\nIt didn't seem like that big of a big deal after we responded in January of 1991. Trust me, I was born the day after the military action started, and I knew nothing of any of it until September 11th.",
">\n\nTheres no suicide bomber volunteers? I think they try to get away with a knife now days.\nWould anyone like to blow themselves up for 10k? Theres a reward at the end.",
">\n\nThey are just letting us eat each other alive instead. More effective and much cheaper.",
">\n\nBecause our partisan pundit driven media infrastructure can't walk and chew gum at the same time. Conditions in Afghanistan, Iran, Syria, and Yemen haven't improved. Things are actually worse in some regards. The Iranians are supporting Russia in Ukraine with tech and hardware. Similarly Syria is helping Russia with personnel. \nThe Republican party has abandoned public discussion surrounding foreign affairs. There is a libertarian strain to the Republican base that prefers isolation. So while traditional GOP members actively support aid to Ukraine and want stricter sanctions against Iran & Syria it isn't a discussion being had amongst pundits who serve are the party mouth pieces. \nAs public debate over foreign affairs has grown silent the public's awareness of foreign matters has shrunk.",
">\n\nBesides what many people are saying (which is correct of course), there’s also just the simple fact that for the last 6 years the news cycle has completely shifted away from stuff like that (covid, war, trump). We all just get scared of whatever they decide to show us as being a threat every year."
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Because the rightwing fear/outrage machine moved on to other threats like Critical Race Theory and trans kids. It will circle back around eventually. | [
"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
">\n\nI would classify it as intra-islamic terrorism.",
">\n\nI’m really not looking forward to having to deal with “Post-Modern Islamic Terrorism.”",
">\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\nThe biggest potential threat for Islamist (not Islamic, there's a difference) terrorism in the west post-9/11 was almost always \"lone wolf\" attacks against soft targets.\nWell, the decisive action against ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, and similar organizations both crippled their ability to fund such operations, diminished their reach via social media, and severely crippled their leadership structures. After all, nobody wants to take an afternoon drive and get hit with a slap chop missile that doesn't leave enough left to fill a doggy bag.",
">\n\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\n\nI'd edit that to the US, not the west. Europe has issues still, though they are less than years past as we have mostly destroyed the large organizations.",
">\n\nISIS is now only a shell of what it was before. After government forces recaptured Mosul, that was pretty much its last stand. It became relegated to being tiny and extremely demoralized fighting cells in the desert. Less war like conditions now and therefore less people being displaced. Many of the people who went there to fight with ISIS have become disillusioned after seeing ISIS for what it was. They are either being prosecuted in their home countries or rendered stateless after leaders of various countries have revoked their citizenships. \nToday, Iraq has entered a period of relative stability after ISIS had been significantly weakened and US forces being ejected by the Iraqi government. Syrians are still leaving Assad's regime, albeit at smaller numbers than before. Boko Haram's leader has been killed and its camps have been destroyed.\nA huge but here... Al-Shabaab is still a major concern but more as a domestic concern. Every year, there are several attacks in Mogadishu and other cities throughout Somalia.",
">\n\nI would add that a group of militants attacks Southern Tanzania and northern Mozambique.",
">\n\nI'm actually not sure they are gone but they're definitely in retreat. USA and friends capped a lot of their leadership. They're either in retreat and rebuilding, or just done. I can't answer for Europe but I can also say that the focus in the USA is shifting to domestic terror.\nSorry if my response is too brief. I don't believe the answers are that complex. Religious government is on the rise, authoritarianism also, so they're busy at home. Oppressing the women.",
">\n\nI believe this is what it is too. Focus has shifted.",
">\n\nBecause ISIS was destroyed. Tens of thousands of its fighters were annihilated. And more importantly, Saudi Arabia and the gulf states which exported fundamentalist Islamism are moderating a bit. \nIt’s still a major problem though, just not in the West. The Sahel for instance is constantly ravaged by Islamist violence and there was just recently a massive terror attack in Pakistan.",
">\n\nProbably mainly because there haven't been any major Islamist terror attacks lately, while our attention has been drawn away by all the other scary stuff happening. Also Al Qaeda and ISIS are only a shadow of their former selves by now.",
">\n\nHere in France, there's still several \"Islamic terrorism-adjacent\" murders each year - ie. acts carried out by mentally deranged people that have latched onto Islamism as a motivating idealogy - there was a mass stabbing in Gare du Nord about two weeks ago.",
">\n\nThat’s scary, and I don’t think we even heard about it over here",
">\n\nA) All the leaders are dead. \nB) They’ve probably seen all the chaos in the West over the past decade and realize attacking is a waste of time.",
">\n\nBecause there's a war on Christmas, CRT, the border, and litter boxes in schools happening instead. It will come around again. Our tiny brains can only deal with 3 or 4 drumbeats at a time.",
">\n\nThe GOP can't really harp on Islamic terrorism while American rightwing terrorists are on the uptick.",
">\n\nI think COVID is the thing you're missing. It kinda distracted everyone for a while, and it killed a lot more people than terrorists ever did. Terrorism was always a massively-overinflated threat for the US and Europe, so it was easy to ignore it when an actual threat came along.",
">\n\nNow it’s Christian nationalism that’s our biggest national threat. Go figure",
">\n\nEh, Christian extremists haven't flown two planes into skyscrapers or shot up an LGBT nightclub or bombed a stadium full of kids or beheaded a teacher because he dared to draw Jesus. I'd say we're a ways away from Christian nationalism being a threat.",
">\n\nNo. They bomb abortion clinics and attack liberals and democrats. They launch insurrections when their candidate loses. Christian extremists call for a real-life version of Gilead here in America. They are a much bigger threat than Islamic radicals because they're homegrown terrorists.",
">\n\nAnd my point is that a possible threat is far better than two planes crashing into the Twin Towers, which was an actual threat.",
">\n\nBut it’s not a threat now. It’s an event that happened two decades ago. To the point of the OP, this type of extremism is no longer viewed as a threat in America. Recent history suggests that terrorism in the US will much more likely be committed by right wing Americans instead. We shouldn’t need another OKC bombing scale attack to acknowledge that.",
">\n\nOnly if you bought into the media hype, especially Republican media that needs to instill fear and dread of the \"other\". I actually had a neighbor who was certain Obama would usher in an era of Sharia law in the US during that time period.\nI tried explaining that ISIS and other such extremist Islamic worldviews were medieval in nature, and incapable of successfully propagating (much) in the modern world. They would eventually just burn out on their own. Worldviews can get outcompeted by more successful ones, just like species can. The vast majority of modern people simply do not want to be beheaded (or ruled) by extremists of any religion or ideology. But too many people unquestionably absorb the narratives they hear on tv.\nAnd of course the US needs an enemy du jour to justify its $1T/year war budget. So the American people will always be heavily propagandized by the state (corporate) media to fear the designated \"terrorist\" group, so they don't ever ask if all that money might otherwise be spent on healthcare, a living wage, or some other unicorn and puppies fantasy like that.",
">\n\nI know your ass isn’t blaming the “republican media” when Obama literally drone strikes so many people we ran out of bombs",
">\n\nI’m sorry if I didn’t structure my essay as clearly as I intended. \nBoth sides of the US corporate media often push the same false narratives but for different purposes. The Republicans pushed “radical Islamic terrorism” because they hate and fear “foreign” people especially if they are “non Christian”. And because the Democrats are “soft on terror” and “want Sharia law”.\nThe Democrats pushed for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, and yes unquestioningly allowed Obama’s and then trump’s drone attacks, because “they attacked us on 9/11” and “they are the bad terrorists we must fight over there so they can’t blow us up here” as the pretext (which was also Bush Junior’s line of reasoning), but more truly because the military industrial complex needs liberals to keep paying them hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars every year. \nRepublicans basically hate and fear all Muslims (remember they cheered trump’s Muslim ban), while liberals are only afraid of the “extremist” Muslims that CNN and the NYT tell them to fear. But in both cases, most Americans lost their taste for endless war in the Middle East. It’s much easier to sell them on a new endless war in the Ukraine. Especially since Putin clearly also is a power hungry dictator who made the calculation that he could more easily maintain power as a “war president”, much as the calculation Cheney/Bush made when they decided to invade Iraq (remember George Tenet said it was going to be a “slam dunk” and then we were stuck there for a decade — but the people still re-elected the dumbest and most incompetent president we ever had up to that point). \nBoth political parties are the two wings of the capitalist corporatist militarist party that runs the United States. The American people (all of them regardless of affiliation, religious belief, and education level) are the most heavily propagandized people in the history of the world. The American people could have voted for someone who voted against the Iraq war and who has vocally been against arming the Saudi’s in their Yemen war (Bernie Sanders) in 2016 and then again in 2020 but they voted for the War Mongers of both parties, both times. The vast majority of all Americans would rather spend their hard earned money on keeping their military bloated, rather than giving themselves universal single-payer healthcare or a guaranteed livable wage.",
">\n\nEvery single media outlet pushed war. candi rice and Hilary Clinton were literally just on a podcast still talking about WMD. Every news outlet lied. Every politician lied. The republicans just wore it on their sleeve more and the dems were dropping bombs with HOPE on them.\nEdit: the DNC trashed Bernie’s campaign both times and he rolled over. There is no hope for an anti war party in America. Is there any legitimate pushback with Ukraine ? If you criticize the escalation you get attacked. Was the same thing after 9/11.",
">\n\nThe right wing wants everyone to fear transgender people now. They are the new \"other\" to hate.",
">\n\nMaGA Republicans and cancel culture crazies are probably the new terrorists while Islamists are sitting quietly in the back of the bus planning the next 9-11",
">\n\nCouple of reasons.\nFor starters, a lot of the big catalysts for \"Islamic terrorism\" are....busy.\nISIS' main branch is pretty focused on conflict within Afghanistan against the Taliban and as such hasn't had a plethora of Western targets to strike at. Other ISIS franchises have been acting more locally in their country of origin.\nA lot of other networks have been pretty badly crippled by ongoing counter-terrorism efforts and have scaled back or shifted operations. As much of a pig's breakfast as the US has made of terrorism screening and control efforts at the domestic level, we've had a number of years to refine things and get it right enough that we can catch most of the problems headed our way. At least the problems with the backing of actual organizations/networks.\nSimilarly, the US is out(ish) of Afghanistan and Iraq which means we're just not there to be the target of attacks or enflame sentiment towards us that makes us the target of attacks. We're just less exposed than we used to be.\nThe conflict media cycle has also been living and breathing Ukraine for a year now which has taken a lot of wind out of the attention sails for Islamic fundamentalist terrorism.",
">\n\nIt only seems that way if you are an American. If you are a European especially a French, however, jihadism and Islamism are constant threats that need to be destroyed. After the beheading of French schoolteacher Samuel Paty in October 2020, the \"centrist\" French president Emmanuel Macron and his government finally had enough and have unleashed a huge campaign against the enemies they refer to as Islamo-leftism and Islamist separatism.\nOf course, the liberal media in the United States and the UK hate what the French have been doing. The New York Times even published this opinion article victim blaming the French.\nColor-blind France will not tolerate any challenge to its secular and democratic Republican values including Muslim children. All French Muslims must uphold those values including the ban on hijabs.\nOverall, this is how the French view the paradox of tolerance and freedom of expression.\nEdit: Formatting",
">\n\nThat’s not Islamic terrorism that a coordinated attack by a subjugated and oppressed population in Israel.",
">\n\nTerrorism: \"the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.\" \nYou don't get to change the definition of words.",
">\n\nIn America we have white supremacist domestic terrorists as our biggest threat now",
">\n\nThe closer the date is to 09/11/2001and greater the melanin content the skin of the POTUS the more it matters according to the US right wing.",
">\n\nKurds in Syria helped crush Isis before Trump abandoned them. We pulled out of the middle east as well which was a large part of their hatred of us. Right wing extremists in America are also a far larger and still growing threat. They've been attacking Democrats, and FBI offices as well as trying to overthrow our democracy.",
">\n\nI mean, we just took out a leader in somolia like a week or so ago. You can google isis news... it's just not as prevalent in the news cycle. Probably got lots of monitoring systems going on in the background (obv) but ya know... now it's all Russia Russia Russia, wqr in Ukraine. Now there's the chinese balloon and whoever all is in cahoots over there.",
">\n\nBecause the FBI is doing a good job at it. Give them the powers to fight domestic terrorism and white supremacists, and I'll guarantee you, we will never see anything remotely resembling January 6 again.",
">\n\nIf the FBI was doing its job then January 6 would have never happened. The insurrectionists were being very open about what they wanted to do for weeks beforehand.\nEdit: Also, the FBI are white nationalists.",
">\n\nI would say that it's partly because in Europe, one strain of Islamic terrorism has essentially achieved all their goals.\nStarting with the murder of Theo van Gogh, from 2004-2020, you had an ideologically coherent and very successful terrorism campaign by Islamic radicals against what they perceive as \"blasphemy\" in European media (most spectacularly including the Charlie Hebdo killings and Salman Rushdie but aside from that mostly much more lowkey and less flashy than other Islamic terrorism like the Bataclan attacks). They essentially completely succeeded shutting down the publication of \"blasphemous images\" in the mainstream press (nobody today thinks this is worth getting murdered over), and toning down the \"blasphemy\" more generally.\nIn some sense, it's a model for how well targeted terrorism with limited objectives can work. I would expect most ecoterrorist campaigns to follow a similar trajectory.",
">\n\nI don't know if I can agree to quite that level of hyperbole, but it does seem like Islam focused on simply moving its influence into Europe rather than trying to fight the U.S. Countries like France seem to have much more of an Islamic influence than they did 20 or even 10 years ago, much to their detriment. It's a garbage ideology.",
">\n\nIn retrospect Islamic terrorism was hyped to justify plundering Middle Eastern resources and strengthen a global system of control. Apparently a better enemy was covid, its everywhere, invisible and can kill you at any time.",
">\n\nCovid is a legitimate enemy though. Killed magnitudes more people than terrorism did.",
">\n\nThe US Government stopped funding those groups so they aren’t a threat anymore.",
">\n\nIt's the media, hyping whatever \"crisis of the day\" is. They're the echo chamber for the Republicans who generate the \"crisis of the day\" to ensure hate and fear don't diminish enough for people to relax and live their lives.",
">\n\nIt didn't seem like that big of a big deal after we responded in January of 1991. Trust me, I was born the day after the military action started, and I knew nothing of any of it until September 11th.",
">\n\nTheres no suicide bomber volunteers? I think they try to get away with a knife now days.\nWould anyone like to blow themselves up for 10k? Theres a reward at the end.",
">\n\nThey are just letting us eat each other alive instead. More effective and much cheaper.",
">\n\nBecause our partisan pundit driven media infrastructure can't walk and chew gum at the same time. Conditions in Afghanistan, Iran, Syria, and Yemen haven't improved. Things are actually worse in some regards. The Iranians are supporting Russia in Ukraine with tech and hardware. Similarly Syria is helping Russia with personnel. \nThe Republican party has abandoned public discussion surrounding foreign affairs. There is a libertarian strain to the Republican base that prefers isolation. So while traditional GOP members actively support aid to Ukraine and want stricter sanctions against Iran & Syria it isn't a discussion being had amongst pundits who serve are the party mouth pieces. \nAs public debate over foreign affairs has grown silent the public's awareness of foreign matters has shrunk.",
">\n\nBesides what many people are saying (which is correct of course), there’s also just the simple fact that for the last 6 years the news cycle has completely shifted away from stuff like that (covid, war, trump). We all just get scared of whatever they decide to show us as being a threat every year.",
">\n\nIs it possible that when President Biden finally got us out of the jrbush Wars for Oil, the jihadists lost their \"recruiting poster\" for attacks against the West, and they're not getting volunteers anymore? Might also be the realization that we've gotten real good at just killing the leaders, so its not as much fun for them to send their lemmings out to attack us. I'm leaning toward the second possibility."
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Russian oil and gas pipes, military installations are burnt, exploded last year - they blame it on US and it's friends. Earlier - on islamists | [
"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
">\n\nI would classify it as intra-islamic terrorism.",
">\n\nI’m really not looking forward to having to deal with “Post-Modern Islamic Terrorism.”",
">\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\nThe biggest potential threat for Islamist (not Islamic, there's a difference) terrorism in the west post-9/11 was almost always \"lone wolf\" attacks against soft targets.\nWell, the decisive action against ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, and similar organizations both crippled their ability to fund such operations, diminished their reach via social media, and severely crippled their leadership structures. After all, nobody wants to take an afternoon drive and get hit with a slap chop missile that doesn't leave enough left to fill a doggy bag.",
">\n\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\n\nI'd edit that to the US, not the west. Europe has issues still, though they are less than years past as we have mostly destroyed the large organizations.",
">\n\nISIS is now only a shell of what it was before. After government forces recaptured Mosul, that was pretty much its last stand. It became relegated to being tiny and extremely demoralized fighting cells in the desert. Less war like conditions now and therefore less people being displaced. Many of the people who went there to fight with ISIS have become disillusioned after seeing ISIS for what it was. They are either being prosecuted in their home countries or rendered stateless after leaders of various countries have revoked their citizenships. \nToday, Iraq has entered a period of relative stability after ISIS had been significantly weakened and US forces being ejected by the Iraqi government. Syrians are still leaving Assad's regime, albeit at smaller numbers than before. Boko Haram's leader has been killed and its camps have been destroyed.\nA huge but here... Al-Shabaab is still a major concern but more as a domestic concern. Every year, there are several attacks in Mogadishu and other cities throughout Somalia.",
">\n\nI would add that a group of militants attacks Southern Tanzania and northern Mozambique.",
">\n\nI'm actually not sure they are gone but they're definitely in retreat. USA and friends capped a lot of their leadership. They're either in retreat and rebuilding, or just done. I can't answer for Europe but I can also say that the focus in the USA is shifting to domestic terror.\nSorry if my response is too brief. I don't believe the answers are that complex. Religious government is on the rise, authoritarianism also, so they're busy at home. Oppressing the women.",
">\n\nI believe this is what it is too. Focus has shifted.",
">\n\nBecause ISIS was destroyed. Tens of thousands of its fighters were annihilated. And more importantly, Saudi Arabia and the gulf states which exported fundamentalist Islamism are moderating a bit. \nIt’s still a major problem though, just not in the West. The Sahel for instance is constantly ravaged by Islamist violence and there was just recently a massive terror attack in Pakistan.",
">\n\nProbably mainly because there haven't been any major Islamist terror attacks lately, while our attention has been drawn away by all the other scary stuff happening. Also Al Qaeda and ISIS are only a shadow of their former selves by now.",
">\n\nHere in France, there's still several \"Islamic terrorism-adjacent\" murders each year - ie. acts carried out by mentally deranged people that have latched onto Islamism as a motivating idealogy - there was a mass stabbing in Gare du Nord about two weeks ago.",
">\n\nThat’s scary, and I don’t think we even heard about it over here",
">\n\nA) All the leaders are dead. \nB) They’ve probably seen all the chaos in the West over the past decade and realize attacking is a waste of time.",
">\n\nBecause there's a war on Christmas, CRT, the border, and litter boxes in schools happening instead. It will come around again. Our tiny brains can only deal with 3 or 4 drumbeats at a time.",
">\n\nThe GOP can't really harp on Islamic terrorism while American rightwing terrorists are on the uptick.",
">\n\nI think COVID is the thing you're missing. It kinda distracted everyone for a while, and it killed a lot more people than terrorists ever did. Terrorism was always a massively-overinflated threat for the US and Europe, so it was easy to ignore it when an actual threat came along.",
">\n\nNow it’s Christian nationalism that’s our biggest national threat. Go figure",
">\n\nEh, Christian extremists haven't flown two planes into skyscrapers or shot up an LGBT nightclub or bombed a stadium full of kids or beheaded a teacher because he dared to draw Jesus. I'd say we're a ways away from Christian nationalism being a threat.",
">\n\nNo. They bomb abortion clinics and attack liberals and democrats. They launch insurrections when their candidate loses. Christian extremists call for a real-life version of Gilead here in America. They are a much bigger threat than Islamic radicals because they're homegrown terrorists.",
">\n\nAnd my point is that a possible threat is far better than two planes crashing into the Twin Towers, which was an actual threat.",
">\n\nBut it’s not a threat now. It’s an event that happened two decades ago. To the point of the OP, this type of extremism is no longer viewed as a threat in America. Recent history suggests that terrorism in the US will much more likely be committed by right wing Americans instead. We shouldn’t need another OKC bombing scale attack to acknowledge that.",
">\n\nOnly if you bought into the media hype, especially Republican media that needs to instill fear and dread of the \"other\". I actually had a neighbor who was certain Obama would usher in an era of Sharia law in the US during that time period.\nI tried explaining that ISIS and other such extremist Islamic worldviews were medieval in nature, and incapable of successfully propagating (much) in the modern world. They would eventually just burn out on their own. Worldviews can get outcompeted by more successful ones, just like species can. The vast majority of modern people simply do not want to be beheaded (or ruled) by extremists of any religion or ideology. But too many people unquestionably absorb the narratives they hear on tv.\nAnd of course the US needs an enemy du jour to justify its $1T/year war budget. So the American people will always be heavily propagandized by the state (corporate) media to fear the designated \"terrorist\" group, so they don't ever ask if all that money might otherwise be spent on healthcare, a living wage, or some other unicorn and puppies fantasy like that.",
">\n\nI know your ass isn’t blaming the “republican media” when Obama literally drone strikes so many people we ran out of bombs",
">\n\nI’m sorry if I didn’t structure my essay as clearly as I intended. \nBoth sides of the US corporate media often push the same false narratives but for different purposes. The Republicans pushed “radical Islamic terrorism” because they hate and fear “foreign” people especially if they are “non Christian”. And because the Democrats are “soft on terror” and “want Sharia law”.\nThe Democrats pushed for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, and yes unquestioningly allowed Obama’s and then trump’s drone attacks, because “they attacked us on 9/11” and “they are the bad terrorists we must fight over there so they can’t blow us up here” as the pretext (which was also Bush Junior’s line of reasoning), but more truly because the military industrial complex needs liberals to keep paying them hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars every year. \nRepublicans basically hate and fear all Muslims (remember they cheered trump’s Muslim ban), while liberals are only afraid of the “extremist” Muslims that CNN and the NYT tell them to fear. But in both cases, most Americans lost their taste for endless war in the Middle East. It’s much easier to sell them on a new endless war in the Ukraine. Especially since Putin clearly also is a power hungry dictator who made the calculation that he could more easily maintain power as a “war president”, much as the calculation Cheney/Bush made when they decided to invade Iraq (remember George Tenet said it was going to be a “slam dunk” and then we were stuck there for a decade — but the people still re-elected the dumbest and most incompetent president we ever had up to that point). \nBoth political parties are the two wings of the capitalist corporatist militarist party that runs the United States. The American people (all of them regardless of affiliation, religious belief, and education level) are the most heavily propagandized people in the history of the world. The American people could have voted for someone who voted against the Iraq war and who has vocally been against arming the Saudi’s in their Yemen war (Bernie Sanders) in 2016 and then again in 2020 but they voted for the War Mongers of both parties, both times. The vast majority of all Americans would rather spend their hard earned money on keeping their military bloated, rather than giving themselves universal single-payer healthcare or a guaranteed livable wage.",
">\n\nEvery single media outlet pushed war. candi rice and Hilary Clinton were literally just on a podcast still talking about WMD. Every news outlet lied. Every politician lied. The republicans just wore it on their sleeve more and the dems were dropping bombs with HOPE on them.\nEdit: the DNC trashed Bernie’s campaign both times and he rolled over. There is no hope for an anti war party in America. Is there any legitimate pushback with Ukraine ? If you criticize the escalation you get attacked. Was the same thing after 9/11.",
">\n\nThe right wing wants everyone to fear transgender people now. They are the new \"other\" to hate.",
">\n\nMaGA Republicans and cancel culture crazies are probably the new terrorists while Islamists are sitting quietly in the back of the bus planning the next 9-11",
">\n\nCouple of reasons.\nFor starters, a lot of the big catalysts for \"Islamic terrorism\" are....busy.\nISIS' main branch is pretty focused on conflict within Afghanistan against the Taliban and as such hasn't had a plethora of Western targets to strike at. Other ISIS franchises have been acting more locally in their country of origin.\nA lot of other networks have been pretty badly crippled by ongoing counter-terrorism efforts and have scaled back or shifted operations. As much of a pig's breakfast as the US has made of terrorism screening and control efforts at the domestic level, we've had a number of years to refine things and get it right enough that we can catch most of the problems headed our way. At least the problems with the backing of actual organizations/networks.\nSimilarly, the US is out(ish) of Afghanistan and Iraq which means we're just not there to be the target of attacks or enflame sentiment towards us that makes us the target of attacks. We're just less exposed than we used to be.\nThe conflict media cycle has also been living and breathing Ukraine for a year now which has taken a lot of wind out of the attention sails for Islamic fundamentalist terrorism.",
">\n\nIt only seems that way if you are an American. If you are a European especially a French, however, jihadism and Islamism are constant threats that need to be destroyed. After the beheading of French schoolteacher Samuel Paty in October 2020, the \"centrist\" French president Emmanuel Macron and his government finally had enough and have unleashed a huge campaign against the enemies they refer to as Islamo-leftism and Islamist separatism.\nOf course, the liberal media in the United States and the UK hate what the French have been doing. The New York Times even published this opinion article victim blaming the French.\nColor-blind France will not tolerate any challenge to its secular and democratic Republican values including Muslim children. All French Muslims must uphold those values including the ban on hijabs.\nOverall, this is how the French view the paradox of tolerance and freedom of expression.\nEdit: Formatting",
">\n\nThat’s not Islamic terrorism that a coordinated attack by a subjugated and oppressed population in Israel.",
">\n\nTerrorism: \"the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.\" \nYou don't get to change the definition of words.",
">\n\nIn America we have white supremacist domestic terrorists as our biggest threat now",
">\n\nThe closer the date is to 09/11/2001and greater the melanin content the skin of the POTUS the more it matters according to the US right wing.",
">\n\nKurds in Syria helped crush Isis before Trump abandoned them. We pulled out of the middle east as well which was a large part of their hatred of us. Right wing extremists in America are also a far larger and still growing threat. They've been attacking Democrats, and FBI offices as well as trying to overthrow our democracy.",
">\n\nI mean, we just took out a leader in somolia like a week or so ago. You can google isis news... it's just not as prevalent in the news cycle. Probably got lots of monitoring systems going on in the background (obv) but ya know... now it's all Russia Russia Russia, wqr in Ukraine. Now there's the chinese balloon and whoever all is in cahoots over there.",
">\n\nBecause the FBI is doing a good job at it. Give them the powers to fight domestic terrorism and white supremacists, and I'll guarantee you, we will never see anything remotely resembling January 6 again.",
">\n\nIf the FBI was doing its job then January 6 would have never happened. The insurrectionists were being very open about what they wanted to do for weeks beforehand.\nEdit: Also, the FBI are white nationalists.",
">\n\nI would say that it's partly because in Europe, one strain of Islamic terrorism has essentially achieved all their goals.\nStarting with the murder of Theo van Gogh, from 2004-2020, you had an ideologically coherent and very successful terrorism campaign by Islamic radicals against what they perceive as \"blasphemy\" in European media (most spectacularly including the Charlie Hebdo killings and Salman Rushdie but aside from that mostly much more lowkey and less flashy than other Islamic terrorism like the Bataclan attacks). They essentially completely succeeded shutting down the publication of \"blasphemous images\" in the mainstream press (nobody today thinks this is worth getting murdered over), and toning down the \"blasphemy\" more generally.\nIn some sense, it's a model for how well targeted terrorism with limited objectives can work. I would expect most ecoterrorist campaigns to follow a similar trajectory.",
">\n\nI don't know if I can agree to quite that level of hyperbole, but it does seem like Islam focused on simply moving its influence into Europe rather than trying to fight the U.S. Countries like France seem to have much more of an Islamic influence than they did 20 or even 10 years ago, much to their detriment. It's a garbage ideology.",
">\n\nIn retrospect Islamic terrorism was hyped to justify plundering Middle Eastern resources and strengthen a global system of control. Apparently a better enemy was covid, its everywhere, invisible and can kill you at any time.",
">\n\nCovid is a legitimate enemy though. Killed magnitudes more people than terrorism did.",
">\n\nThe US Government stopped funding those groups so they aren’t a threat anymore.",
">\n\nIt's the media, hyping whatever \"crisis of the day\" is. They're the echo chamber for the Republicans who generate the \"crisis of the day\" to ensure hate and fear don't diminish enough for people to relax and live their lives.",
">\n\nIt didn't seem like that big of a big deal after we responded in January of 1991. Trust me, I was born the day after the military action started, and I knew nothing of any of it until September 11th.",
">\n\nTheres no suicide bomber volunteers? I think they try to get away with a knife now days.\nWould anyone like to blow themselves up for 10k? Theres a reward at the end.",
">\n\nThey are just letting us eat each other alive instead. More effective and much cheaper.",
">\n\nBecause our partisan pundit driven media infrastructure can't walk and chew gum at the same time. Conditions in Afghanistan, Iran, Syria, and Yemen haven't improved. Things are actually worse in some regards. The Iranians are supporting Russia in Ukraine with tech and hardware. Similarly Syria is helping Russia with personnel. \nThe Republican party has abandoned public discussion surrounding foreign affairs. There is a libertarian strain to the Republican base that prefers isolation. So while traditional GOP members actively support aid to Ukraine and want stricter sanctions against Iran & Syria it isn't a discussion being had amongst pundits who serve are the party mouth pieces. \nAs public debate over foreign affairs has grown silent the public's awareness of foreign matters has shrunk.",
">\n\nBesides what many people are saying (which is correct of course), there’s also just the simple fact that for the last 6 years the news cycle has completely shifted away from stuff like that (covid, war, trump). We all just get scared of whatever they decide to show us as being a threat every year.",
">\n\nIs it possible that when President Biden finally got us out of the jrbush Wars for Oil, the jihadists lost their \"recruiting poster\" for attacks against the West, and they're not getting volunteers anymore? Might also be the realization that we've gotten real good at just killing the leaders, so its not as much fun for them to send their lemmings out to attack us. I'm leaning toward the second possibility.",
">\n\nBecause the rightwing fear/outrage machine moved on to other threats like Critical Race Theory and trans kids. It will circle back around eventually."
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Trans kids, drag queens and women having human rights are the current boogeymen. Simple as that. | [
"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
">\n\nI would classify it as intra-islamic terrorism.",
">\n\nI’m really not looking forward to having to deal with “Post-Modern Islamic Terrorism.”",
">\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\nThe biggest potential threat for Islamist (not Islamic, there's a difference) terrorism in the west post-9/11 was almost always \"lone wolf\" attacks against soft targets.\nWell, the decisive action against ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, and similar organizations both crippled their ability to fund such operations, diminished their reach via social media, and severely crippled their leadership structures. After all, nobody wants to take an afternoon drive and get hit with a slap chop missile that doesn't leave enough left to fill a doggy bag.",
">\n\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\n\nI'd edit that to the US, not the west. Europe has issues still, though they are less than years past as we have mostly destroyed the large organizations.",
">\n\nISIS is now only a shell of what it was before. After government forces recaptured Mosul, that was pretty much its last stand. It became relegated to being tiny and extremely demoralized fighting cells in the desert. Less war like conditions now and therefore less people being displaced. Many of the people who went there to fight with ISIS have become disillusioned after seeing ISIS for what it was. They are either being prosecuted in their home countries or rendered stateless after leaders of various countries have revoked their citizenships. \nToday, Iraq has entered a period of relative stability after ISIS had been significantly weakened and US forces being ejected by the Iraqi government. Syrians are still leaving Assad's regime, albeit at smaller numbers than before. Boko Haram's leader has been killed and its camps have been destroyed.\nA huge but here... Al-Shabaab is still a major concern but more as a domestic concern. Every year, there are several attacks in Mogadishu and other cities throughout Somalia.",
">\n\nI would add that a group of militants attacks Southern Tanzania and northern Mozambique.",
">\n\nI'm actually not sure they are gone but they're definitely in retreat. USA and friends capped a lot of their leadership. They're either in retreat and rebuilding, or just done. I can't answer for Europe but I can also say that the focus in the USA is shifting to domestic terror.\nSorry if my response is too brief. I don't believe the answers are that complex. Religious government is on the rise, authoritarianism also, so they're busy at home. Oppressing the women.",
">\n\nI believe this is what it is too. Focus has shifted.",
">\n\nBecause ISIS was destroyed. Tens of thousands of its fighters were annihilated. And more importantly, Saudi Arabia and the gulf states which exported fundamentalist Islamism are moderating a bit. \nIt’s still a major problem though, just not in the West. The Sahel for instance is constantly ravaged by Islamist violence and there was just recently a massive terror attack in Pakistan.",
">\n\nProbably mainly because there haven't been any major Islamist terror attacks lately, while our attention has been drawn away by all the other scary stuff happening. Also Al Qaeda and ISIS are only a shadow of their former selves by now.",
">\n\nHere in France, there's still several \"Islamic terrorism-adjacent\" murders each year - ie. acts carried out by mentally deranged people that have latched onto Islamism as a motivating idealogy - there was a mass stabbing in Gare du Nord about two weeks ago.",
">\n\nThat’s scary, and I don’t think we even heard about it over here",
">\n\nA) All the leaders are dead. \nB) They’ve probably seen all the chaos in the West over the past decade and realize attacking is a waste of time.",
">\n\nBecause there's a war on Christmas, CRT, the border, and litter boxes in schools happening instead. It will come around again. Our tiny brains can only deal with 3 or 4 drumbeats at a time.",
">\n\nThe GOP can't really harp on Islamic terrorism while American rightwing terrorists are on the uptick.",
">\n\nI think COVID is the thing you're missing. It kinda distracted everyone for a while, and it killed a lot more people than terrorists ever did. Terrorism was always a massively-overinflated threat for the US and Europe, so it was easy to ignore it when an actual threat came along.",
">\n\nNow it’s Christian nationalism that’s our biggest national threat. Go figure",
">\n\nEh, Christian extremists haven't flown two planes into skyscrapers or shot up an LGBT nightclub or bombed a stadium full of kids or beheaded a teacher because he dared to draw Jesus. I'd say we're a ways away from Christian nationalism being a threat.",
">\n\nNo. They bomb abortion clinics and attack liberals and democrats. They launch insurrections when their candidate loses. Christian extremists call for a real-life version of Gilead here in America. They are a much bigger threat than Islamic radicals because they're homegrown terrorists.",
">\n\nAnd my point is that a possible threat is far better than two planes crashing into the Twin Towers, which was an actual threat.",
">\n\nBut it’s not a threat now. It’s an event that happened two decades ago. To the point of the OP, this type of extremism is no longer viewed as a threat in America. Recent history suggests that terrorism in the US will much more likely be committed by right wing Americans instead. We shouldn’t need another OKC bombing scale attack to acknowledge that.",
">\n\nOnly if you bought into the media hype, especially Republican media that needs to instill fear and dread of the \"other\". I actually had a neighbor who was certain Obama would usher in an era of Sharia law in the US during that time period.\nI tried explaining that ISIS and other such extremist Islamic worldviews were medieval in nature, and incapable of successfully propagating (much) in the modern world. They would eventually just burn out on their own. Worldviews can get outcompeted by more successful ones, just like species can. The vast majority of modern people simply do not want to be beheaded (or ruled) by extremists of any religion or ideology. But too many people unquestionably absorb the narratives they hear on tv.\nAnd of course the US needs an enemy du jour to justify its $1T/year war budget. So the American people will always be heavily propagandized by the state (corporate) media to fear the designated \"terrorist\" group, so they don't ever ask if all that money might otherwise be spent on healthcare, a living wage, or some other unicorn and puppies fantasy like that.",
">\n\nI know your ass isn’t blaming the “republican media” when Obama literally drone strikes so many people we ran out of bombs",
">\n\nI’m sorry if I didn’t structure my essay as clearly as I intended. \nBoth sides of the US corporate media often push the same false narratives but for different purposes. The Republicans pushed “radical Islamic terrorism” because they hate and fear “foreign” people especially if they are “non Christian”. And because the Democrats are “soft on terror” and “want Sharia law”.\nThe Democrats pushed for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, and yes unquestioningly allowed Obama’s and then trump’s drone attacks, because “they attacked us on 9/11” and “they are the bad terrorists we must fight over there so they can’t blow us up here” as the pretext (which was also Bush Junior’s line of reasoning), but more truly because the military industrial complex needs liberals to keep paying them hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars every year. \nRepublicans basically hate and fear all Muslims (remember they cheered trump’s Muslim ban), while liberals are only afraid of the “extremist” Muslims that CNN and the NYT tell them to fear. But in both cases, most Americans lost their taste for endless war in the Middle East. It’s much easier to sell them on a new endless war in the Ukraine. Especially since Putin clearly also is a power hungry dictator who made the calculation that he could more easily maintain power as a “war president”, much as the calculation Cheney/Bush made when they decided to invade Iraq (remember George Tenet said it was going to be a “slam dunk” and then we were stuck there for a decade — but the people still re-elected the dumbest and most incompetent president we ever had up to that point). \nBoth political parties are the two wings of the capitalist corporatist militarist party that runs the United States. The American people (all of them regardless of affiliation, religious belief, and education level) are the most heavily propagandized people in the history of the world. The American people could have voted for someone who voted against the Iraq war and who has vocally been against arming the Saudi’s in their Yemen war (Bernie Sanders) in 2016 and then again in 2020 but they voted for the War Mongers of both parties, both times. The vast majority of all Americans would rather spend their hard earned money on keeping their military bloated, rather than giving themselves universal single-payer healthcare or a guaranteed livable wage.",
">\n\nEvery single media outlet pushed war. candi rice and Hilary Clinton were literally just on a podcast still talking about WMD. Every news outlet lied. Every politician lied. The republicans just wore it on their sleeve more and the dems were dropping bombs with HOPE on them.\nEdit: the DNC trashed Bernie’s campaign both times and he rolled over. There is no hope for an anti war party in America. Is there any legitimate pushback with Ukraine ? If you criticize the escalation you get attacked. Was the same thing after 9/11.",
">\n\nThe right wing wants everyone to fear transgender people now. They are the new \"other\" to hate.",
">\n\nMaGA Republicans and cancel culture crazies are probably the new terrorists while Islamists are sitting quietly in the back of the bus planning the next 9-11",
">\n\nCouple of reasons.\nFor starters, a lot of the big catalysts for \"Islamic terrorism\" are....busy.\nISIS' main branch is pretty focused on conflict within Afghanistan against the Taliban and as such hasn't had a plethora of Western targets to strike at. Other ISIS franchises have been acting more locally in their country of origin.\nA lot of other networks have been pretty badly crippled by ongoing counter-terrorism efforts and have scaled back or shifted operations. As much of a pig's breakfast as the US has made of terrorism screening and control efforts at the domestic level, we've had a number of years to refine things and get it right enough that we can catch most of the problems headed our way. At least the problems with the backing of actual organizations/networks.\nSimilarly, the US is out(ish) of Afghanistan and Iraq which means we're just not there to be the target of attacks or enflame sentiment towards us that makes us the target of attacks. We're just less exposed than we used to be.\nThe conflict media cycle has also been living and breathing Ukraine for a year now which has taken a lot of wind out of the attention sails for Islamic fundamentalist terrorism.",
">\n\nIt only seems that way if you are an American. If you are a European especially a French, however, jihadism and Islamism are constant threats that need to be destroyed. After the beheading of French schoolteacher Samuel Paty in October 2020, the \"centrist\" French president Emmanuel Macron and his government finally had enough and have unleashed a huge campaign against the enemies they refer to as Islamo-leftism and Islamist separatism.\nOf course, the liberal media in the United States and the UK hate what the French have been doing. The New York Times even published this opinion article victim blaming the French.\nColor-blind France will not tolerate any challenge to its secular and democratic Republican values including Muslim children. All French Muslims must uphold those values including the ban on hijabs.\nOverall, this is how the French view the paradox of tolerance and freedom of expression.\nEdit: Formatting",
">\n\nThat’s not Islamic terrorism that a coordinated attack by a subjugated and oppressed population in Israel.",
">\n\nTerrorism: \"the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.\" \nYou don't get to change the definition of words.",
">\n\nIn America we have white supremacist domestic terrorists as our biggest threat now",
">\n\nThe closer the date is to 09/11/2001and greater the melanin content the skin of the POTUS the more it matters according to the US right wing.",
">\n\nKurds in Syria helped crush Isis before Trump abandoned them. We pulled out of the middle east as well which was a large part of their hatred of us. Right wing extremists in America are also a far larger and still growing threat. They've been attacking Democrats, and FBI offices as well as trying to overthrow our democracy.",
">\n\nI mean, we just took out a leader in somolia like a week or so ago. You can google isis news... it's just not as prevalent in the news cycle. Probably got lots of monitoring systems going on in the background (obv) but ya know... now it's all Russia Russia Russia, wqr in Ukraine. Now there's the chinese balloon and whoever all is in cahoots over there.",
">\n\nBecause the FBI is doing a good job at it. Give them the powers to fight domestic terrorism and white supremacists, and I'll guarantee you, we will never see anything remotely resembling January 6 again.",
">\n\nIf the FBI was doing its job then January 6 would have never happened. The insurrectionists were being very open about what they wanted to do for weeks beforehand.\nEdit: Also, the FBI are white nationalists.",
">\n\nI would say that it's partly because in Europe, one strain of Islamic terrorism has essentially achieved all their goals.\nStarting with the murder of Theo van Gogh, from 2004-2020, you had an ideologically coherent and very successful terrorism campaign by Islamic radicals against what they perceive as \"blasphemy\" in European media (most spectacularly including the Charlie Hebdo killings and Salman Rushdie but aside from that mostly much more lowkey and less flashy than other Islamic terrorism like the Bataclan attacks). They essentially completely succeeded shutting down the publication of \"blasphemous images\" in the mainstream press (nobody today thinks this is worth getting murdered over), and toning down the \"blasphemy\" more generally.\nIn some sense, it's a model for how well targeted terrorism with limited objectives can work. I would expect most ecoterrorist campaigns to follow a similar trajectory.",
">\n\nI don't know if I can agree to quite that level of hyperbole, but it does seem like Islam focused on simply moving its influence into Europe rather than trying to fight the U.S. Countries like France seem to have much more of an Islamic influence than they did 20 or even 10 years ago, much to their detriment. It's a garbage ideology.",
">\n\nIn retrospect Islamic terrorism was hyped to justify plundering Middle Eastern resources and strengthen a global system of control. Apparently a better enemy was covid, its everywhere, invisible and can kill you at any time.",
">\n\nCovid is a legitimate enemy though. Killed magnitudes more people than terrorism did.",
">\n\nThe US Government stopped funding those groups so they aren’t a threat anymore.",
">\n\nIt's the media, hyping whatever \"crisis of the day\" is. They're the echo chamber for the Republicans who generate the \"crisis of the day\" to ensure hate and fear don't diminish enough for people to relax and live their lives.",
">\n\nIt didn't seem like that big of a big deal after we responded in January of 1991. Trust me, I was born the day after the military action started, and I knew nothing of any of it until September 11th.",
">\n\nTheres no suicide bomber volunteers? I think they try to get away with a knife now days.\nWould anyone like to blow themselves up for 10k? Theres a reward at the end.",
">\n\nThey are just letting us eat each other alive instead. More effective and much cheaper.",
">\n\nBecause our partisan pundit driven media infrastructure can't walk and chew gum at the same time. Conditions in Afghanistan, Iran, Syria, and Yemen haven't improved. Things are actually worse in some regards. The Iranians are supporting Russia in Ukraine with tech and hardware. Similarly Syria is helping Russia with personnel. \nThe Republican party has abandoned public discussion surrounding foreign affairs. There is a libertarian strain to the Republican base that prefers isolation. So while traditional GOP members actively support aid to Ukraine and want stricter sanctions against Iran & Syria it isn't a discussion being had amongst pundits who serve are the party mouth pieces. \nAs public debate over foreign affairs has grown silent the public's awareness of foreign matters has shrunk.",
">\n\nBesides what many people are saying (which is correct of course), there’s also just the simple fact that for the last 6 years the news cycle has completely shifted away from stuff like that (covid, war, trump). We all just get scared of whatever they decide to show us as being a threat every year.",
">\n\nIs it possible that when President Biden finally got us out of the jrbush Wars for Oil, the jihadists lost their \"recruiting poster\" for attacks against the West, and they're not getting volunteers anymore? Might also be the realization that we've gotten real good at just killing the leaders, so its not as much fun for them to send their lemmings out to attack us. I'm leaning toward the second possibility.",
">\n\nBecause the rightwing fear/outrage machine moved on to other threats like Critical Race Theory and trans kids. It will circle back around eventually.",
">\n\nRussian oil and gas pipes, military installations are burnt, exploded last year - they blame it on US and it's friends. Earlier - on islamists"
] |
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ISIS was the most recently prominent of these organizations, and most of their work was enabling lone actors via online propaganda. As their leadership started being frequently targeted by military attack and their online resources frequently smacked back to the darker parts of the internet, they had both less manpower and influence. In addition, internal infighting and the lack of their prophesied doomsday largely led to them falling apart. Al-Qaeda's lost most of the leadership that was interested in destabilizing the west. The Taliban never really targeted western organizations, and has now taken back Afghanistan, and I'd wager the current leadership sees no interest in giving the west an excuse to invade right after withdrawing. | [
"It still is. For example, the Wikipedia main page for today says:\n\nA suicide bombing in a mosque in Peshawar, Pakistan, kills 100 people and injures more than 220 others.",
">\n\nThis seems to be antiislamic terror ?",
">\n\nI would classify it as intra-islamic terrorism.",
">\n\nI’m really not looking forward to having to deal with “Post-Modern Islamic Terrorism.”",
">\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\nThe biggest potential threat for Islamist (not Islamic, there's a difference) terrorism in the west post-9/11 was almost always \"lone wolf\" attacks against soft targets.\nWell, the decisive action against ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, and similar organizations both crippled their ability to fund such operations, diminished their reach via social media, and severely crippled their leadership structures. After all, nobody wants to take an afternoon drive and get hit with a slap chop missile that doesn't leave enough left to fill a doggy bag.",
">\n\n\nIt's a problem, just not as much of a problem in the West.\n\nI'd edit that to the US, not the west. Europe has issues still, though they are less than years past as we have mostly destroyed the large organizations.",
">\n\nISIS is now only a shell of what it was before. After government forces recaptured Mosul, that was pretty much its last stand. It became relegated to being tiny and extremely demoralized fighting cells in the desert. Less war like conditions now and therefore less people being displaced. Many of the people who went there to fight with ISIS have become disillusioned after seeing ISIS for what it was. They are either being prosecuted in their home countries or rendered stateless after leaders of various countries have revoked their citizenships. \nToday, Iraq has entered a period of relative stability after ISIS had been significantly weakened and US forces being ejected by the Iraqi government. Syrians are still leaving Assad's regime, albeit at smaller numbers than before. Boko Haram's leader has been killed and its camps have been destroyed.\nA huge but here... Al-Shabaab is still a major concern but more as a domestic concern. Every year, there are several attacks in Mogadishu and other cities throughout Somalia.",
">\n\nI would add that a group of militants attacks Southern Tanzania and northern Mozambique.",
">\n\nI'm actually not sure they are gone but they're definitely in retreat. USA and friends capped a lot of their leadership. They're either in retreat and rebuilding, or just done. I can't answer for Europe but I can also say that the focus in the USA is shifting to domestic terror.\nSorry if my response is too brief. I don't believe the answers are that complex. Religious government is on the rise, authoritarianism also, so they're busy at home. Oppressing the women.",
">\n\nI believe this is what it is too. Focus has shifted.",
">\n\nBecause ISIS was destroyed. Tens of thousands of its fighters were annihilated. And more importantly, Saudi Arabia and the gulf states which exported fundamentalist Islamism are moderating a bit. \nIt’s still a major problem though, just not in the West. The Sahel for instance is constantly ravaged by Islamist violence and there was just recently a massive terror attack in Pakistan.",
">\n\nProbably mainly because there haven't been any major Islamist terror attacks lately, while our attention has been drawn away by all the other scary stuff happening. Also Al Qaeda and ISIS are only a shadow of their former selves by now.",
">\n\nHere in France, there's still several \"Islamic terrorism-adjacent\" murders each year - ie. acts carried out by mentally deranged people that have latched onto Islamism as a motivating idealogy - there was a mass stabbing in Gare du Nord about two weeks ago.",
">\n\nThat’s scary, and I don’t think we even heard about it over here",
">\n\nA) All the leaders are dead. \nB) They’ve probably seen all the chaos in the West over the past decade and realize attacking is a waste of time.",
">\n\nBecause there's a war on Christmas, CRT, the border, and litter boxes in schools happening instead. It will come around again. Our tiny brains can only deal with 3 or 4 drumbeats at a time.",
">\n\nThe GOP can't really harp on Islamic terrorism while American rightwing terrorists are on the uptick.",
">\n\nI think COVID is the thing you're missing. It kinda distracted everyone for a while, and it killed a lot more people than terrorists ever did. Terrorism was always a massively-overinflated threat for the US and Europe, so it was easy to ignore it when an actual threat came along.",
">\n\nNow it’s Christian nationalism that’s our biggest national threat. Go figure",
">\n\nEh, Christian extremists haven't flown two planes into skyscrapers or shot up an LGBT nightclub or bombed a stadium full of kids or beheaded a teacher because he dared to draw Jesus. I'd say we're a ways away from Christian nationalism being a threat.",
">\n\nNo. They bomb abortion clinics and attack liberals and democrats. They launch insurrections when their candidate loses. Christian extremists call for a real-life version of Gilead here in America. They are a much bigger threat than Islamic radicals because they're homegrown terrorists.",
">\n\nAnd my point is that a possible threat is far better than two planes crashing into the Twin Towers, which was an actual threat.",
">\n\nBut it’s not a threat now. It’s an event that happened two decades ago. To the point of the OP, this type of extremism is no longer viewed as a threat in America. Recent history suggests that terrorism in the US will much more likely be committed by right wing Americans instead. We shouldn’t need another OKC bombing scale attack to acknowledge that.",
">\n\nOnly if you bought into the media hype, especially Republican media that needs to instill fear and dread of the \"other\". I actually had a neighbor who was certain Obama would usher in an era of Sharia law in the US during that time period.\nI tried explaining that ISIS and other such extremist Islamic worldviews were medieval in nature, and incapable of successfully propagating (much) in the modern world. They would eventually just burn out on their own. Worldviews can get outcompeted by more successful ones, just like species can. The vast majority of modern people simply do not want to be beheaded (or ruled) by extremists of any religion or ideology. But too many people unquestionably absorb the narratives they hear on tv.\nAnd of course the US needs an enemy du jour to justify its $1T/year war budget. So the American people will always be heavily propagandized by the state (corporate) media to fear the designated \"terrorist\" group, so they don't ever ask if all that money might otherwise be spent on healthcare, a living wage, or some other unicorn and puppies fantasy like that.",
">\n\nI know your ass isn’t blaming the “republican media” when Obama literally drone strikes so many people we ran out of bombs",
">\n\nI’m sorry if I didn’t structure my essay as clearly as I intended. \nBoth sides of the US corporate media often push the same false narratives but for different purposes. The Republicans pushed “radical Islamic terrorism” because they hate and fear “foreign” people especially if they are “non Christian”. And because the Democrats are “soft on terror” and “want Sharia law”.\nThe Democrats pushed for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, and yes unquestioningly allowed Obama’s and then trump’s drone attacks, because “they attacked us on 9/11” and “they are the bad terrorists we must fight over there so they can’t blow us up here” as the pretext (which was also Bush Junior’s line of reasoning), but more truly because the military industrial complex needs liberals to keep paying them hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars every year. \nRepublicans basically hate and fear all Muslims (remember they cheered trump’s Muslim ban), while liberals are only afraid of the “extremist” Muslims that CNN and the NYT tell them to fear. But in both cases, most Americans lost their taste for endless war in the Middle East. It’s much easier to sell them on a new endless war in the Ukraine. Especially since Putin clearly also is a power hungry dictator who made the calculation that he could more easily maintain power as a “war president”, much as the calculation Cheney/Bush made when they decided to invade Iraq (remember George Tenet said it was going to be a “slam dunk” and then we were stuck there for a decade — but the people still re-elected the dumbest and most incompetent president we ever had up to that point). \nBoth political parties are the two wings of the capitalist corporatist militarist party that runs the United States. The American people (all of them regardless of affiliation, religious belief, and education level) are the most heavily propagandized people in the history of the world. The American people could have voted for someone who voted against the Iraq war and who has vocally been against arming the Saudi’s in their Yemen war (Bernie Sanders) in 2016 and then again in 2020 but they voted for the War Mongers of both parties, both times. The vast majority of all Americans would rather spend their hard earned money on keeping their military bloated, rather than giving themselves universal single-payer healthcare or a guaranteed livable wage.",
">\n\nEvery single media outlet pushed war. candi rice and Hilary Clinton were literally just on a podcast still talking about WMD. Every news outlet lied. Every politician lied. The republicans just wore it on their sleeve more and the dems were dropping bombs with HOPE on them.\nEdit: the DNC trashed Bernie’s campaign both times and he rolled over. There is no hope for an anti war party in America. Is there any legitimate pushback with Ukraine ? If you criticize the escalation you get attacked. Was the same thing after 9/11.",
">\n\nThe right wing wants everyone to fear transgender people now. They are the new \"other\" to hate.",
">\n\nMaGA Republicans and cancel culture crazies are probably the new terrorists while Islamists are sitting quietly in the back of the bus planning the next 9-11",
">\n\nCouple of reasons.\nFor starters, a lot of the big catalysts for \"Islamic terrorism\" are....busy.\nISIS' main branch is pretty focused on conflict within Afghanistan against the Taliban and as such hasn't had a plethora of Western targets to strike at. Other ISIS franchises have been acting more locally in their country of origin.\nA lot of other networks have been pretty badly crippled by ongoing counter-terrorism efforts and have scaled back or shifted operations. As much of a pig's breakfast as the US has made of terrorism screening and control efforts at the domestic level, we've had a number of years to refine things and get it right enough that we can catch most of the problems headed our way. At least the problems with the backing of actual organizations/networks.\nSimilarly, the US is out(ish) of Afghanistan and Iraq which means we're just not there to be the target of attacks or enflame sentiment towards us that makes us the target of attacks. We're just less exposed than we used to be.\nThe conflict media cycle has also been living and breathing Ukraine for a year now which has taken a lot of wind out of the attention sails for Islamic fundamentalist terrorism.",
">\n\nIt only seems that way if you are an American. If you are a European especially a French, however, jihadism and Islamism are constant threats that need to be destroyed. After the beheading of French schoolteacher Samuel Paty in October 2020, the \"centrist\" French president Emmanuel Macron and his government finally had enough and have unleashed a huge campaign against the enemies they refer to as Islamo-leftism and Islamist separatism.\nOf course, the liberal media in the United States and the UK hate what the French have been doing. The New York Times even published this opinion article victim blaming the French.\nColor-blind France will not tolerate any challenge to its secular and democratic Republican values including Muslim children. All French Muslims must uphold those values including the ban on hijabs.\nOverall, this is how the French view the paradox of tolerance and freedom of expression.\nEdit: Formatting",
">\n\nThat’s not Islamic terrorism that a coordinated attack by a subjugated and oppressed population in Israel.",
">\n\nTerrorism: \"the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.\" \nYou don't get to change the definition of words.",
">\n\nIn America we have white supremacist domestic terrorists as our biggest threat now",
">\n\nThe closer the date is to 09/11/2001and greater the melanin content the skin of the POTUS the more it matters according to the US right wing.",
">\n\nKurds in Syria helped crush Isis before Trump abandoned them. We pulled out of the middle east as well which was a large part of their hatred of us. Right wing extremists in America are also a far larger and still growing threat. They've been attacking Democrats, and FBI offices as well as trying to overthrow our democracy.",
">\n\nI mean, we just took out a leader in somolia like a week or so ago. You can google isis news... it's just not as prevalent in the news cycle. Probably got lots of monitoring systems going on in the background (obv) but ya know... now it's all Russia Russia Russia, wqr in Ukraine. Now there's the chinese balloon and whoever all is in cahoots over there.",
">\n\nBecause the FBI is doing a good job at it. Give them the powers to fight domestic terrorism and white supremacists, and I'll guarantee you, we will never see anything remotely resembling January 6 again.",
">\n\nIf the FBI was doing its job then January 6 would have never happened. The insurrectionists were being very open about what they wanted to do for weeks beforehand.\nEdit: Also, the FBI are white nationalists.",
">\n\nI would say that it's partly because in Europe, one strain of Islamic terrorism has essentially achieved all their goals.\nStarting with the murder of Theo van Gogh, from 2004-2020, you had an ideologically coherent and very successful terrorism campaign by Islamic radicals against what they perceive as \"blasphemy\" in European media (most spectacularly including the Charlie Hebdo killings and Salman Rushdie but aside from that mostly much more lowkey and less flashy than other Islamic terrorism like the Bataclan attacks). They essentially completely succeeded shutting down the publication of \"blasphemous images\" in the mainstream press (nobody today thinks this is worth getting murdered over), and toning down the \"blasphemy\" more generally.\nIn some sense, it's a model for how well targeted terrorism with limited objectives can work. I would expect most ecoterrorist campaigns to follow a similar trajectory.",
">\n\nI don't know if I can agree to quite that level of hyperbole, but it does seem like Islam focused on simply moving its influence into Europe rather than trying to fight the U.S. Countries like France seem to have much more of an Islamic influence than they did 20 or even 10 years ago, much to their detriment. It's a garbage ideology.",
">\n\nIn retrospect Islamic terrorism was hyped to justify plundering Middle Eastern resources and strengthen a global system of control. Apparently a better enemy was covid, its everywhere, invisible and can kill you at any time.",
">\n\nCovid is a legitimate enemy though. Killed magnitudes more people than terrorism did.",
">\n\nThe US Government stopped funding those groups so they aren’t a threat anymore.",
">\n\nIt's the media, hyping whatever \"crisis of the day\" is. They're the echo chamber for the Republicans who generate the \"crisis of the day\" to ensure hate and fear don't diminish enough for people to relax and live their lives.",
">\n\nIt didn't seem like that big of a big deal after we responded in January of 1991. Trust me, I was born the day after the military action started, and I knew nothing of any of it until September 11th.",
">\n\nTheres no suicide bomber volunteers? I think they try to get away with a knife now days.\nWould anyone like to blow themselves up for 10k? Theres a reward at the end.",
">\n\nThey are just letting us eat each other alive instead. More effective and much cheaper.",
">\n\nBecause our partisan pundit driven media infrastructure can't walk and chew gum at the same time. Conditions in Afghanistan, Iran, Syria, and Yemen haven't improved. Things are actually worse in some regards. The Iranians are supporting Russia in Ukraine with tech and hardware. Similarly Syria is helping Russia with personnel. \nThe Republican party has abandoned public discussion surrounding foreign affairs. There is a libertarian strain to the Republican base that prefers isolation. So while traditional GOP members actively support aid to Ukraine and want stricter sanctions against Iran & Syria it isn't a discussion being had amongst pundits who serve are the party mouth pieces. \nAs public debate over foreign affairs has grown silent the public's awareness of foreign matters has shrunk.",
">\n\nBesides what many people are saying (which is correct of course), there’s also just the simple fact that for the last 6 years the news cycle has completely shifted away from stuff like that (covid, war, trump). We all just get scared of whatever they decide to show us as being a threat every year.",
">\n\nIs it possible that when President Biden finally got us out of the jrbush Wars for Oil, the jihadists lost their \"recruiting poster\" for attacks against the West, and they're not getting volunteers anymore? Might also be the realization that we've gotten real good at just killing the leaders, so its not as much fun for them to send their lemmings out to attack us. I'm leaning toward the second possibility.",
">\n\nBecause the rightwing fear/outrage machine moved on to other threats like Critical Race Theory and trans kids. It will circle back around eventually.",
">\n\nRussian oil and gas pipes, military installations are burnt, exploded last year - they blame it on US and it's friends. Earlier - on islamists",
">\n\nTrans kids, drag queens and women having human rights are the current boogeymen. Simple as that."
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