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[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!" ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea" ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/" ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show....." ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action." ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care." ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms." ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar" ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯" ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round" ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures." ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces" ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place" ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????" ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…" ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies..." ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich." ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise" ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me" ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny." ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas." ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them." ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?" ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures." ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back." ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?" ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here." ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"...." ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!" ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept." ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show." ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?" ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now" ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?" ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set" ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set", ">\n\nThe crew will be dressed for the weather, whereas the cast will be dressed for the production.\n\"painful comedy\" indeed, bud." ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set", ">\n\nThe crew will be dressed for the weather, whereas the cast will be dressed for the production.\n\"painful comedy\" indeed, bud.", ">\n\nDid…did they not watch the show during quarantine like we all did ?!" ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set", ">\n\nThe crew will be dressed for the weather, whereas the cast will be dressed for the production.\n\"painful comedy\" indeed, bud.", ">\n\nDid…did they not watch the show during quarantine like we all did ?!", ">\n\nJapan should of filmed this show would of been better...." ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set", ">\n\nThe crew will be dressed for the weather, whereas the cast will be dressed for the production.\n\"painful comedy\" indeed, bud.", ">\n\nDid…did they not watch the show during quarantine like we all did ?!", ">\n\nJapan should of filmed this show would of been better....", ">\n\nShould have\nWould have\nPlease learn your basic grammar." ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set", ">\n\nThe crew will be dressed for the weather, whereas the cast will be dressed for the production.\n\"painful comedy\" indeed, bud.", ">\n\nDid…did they not watch the show during quarantine like we all did ?!", ">\n\nJapan should of filmed this show would of been better....", ">\n\nShould have\nWould have\nPlease learn your basic grammar.", ">\n\nWhy do I have to watch Doja cat play smash or pass while reading this article?" ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set", ">\n\nThe crew will be dressed for the weather, whereas the cast will be dressed for the production.\n\"painful comedy\" indeed, bud.", ">\n\nDid…did they not watch the show during quarantine like we all did ?!", ">\n\nJapan should of filmed this show would of been better....", ">\n\nShould have\nWould have\nPlease learn your basic grammar.", ">\n\nWhy do I have to watch Doja cat play smash or pass while reading this article?", ">\n\n…" ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set", ">\n\nThe crew will be dressed for the weather, whereas the cast will be dressed for the production.\n\"painful comedy\" indeed, bud.", ">\n\nDid…did they not watch the show during quarantine like we all did ?!", ">\n\nJapan should of filmed this show would of been better....", ">\n\nShould have\nWould have\nPlease learn your basic grammar.", ">\n\nWhy do I have to watch Doja cat play smash or pass while reading this article?", ">\n\n…", ">\n\nABD by Mr Beast anyway" ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set", ">\n\nThe crew will be dressed for the weather, whereas the cast will be dressed for the production.\n\"painful comedy\" indeed, bud.", ">\n\nDid…did they not watch the show during quarantine like we all did ?!", ">\n\nJapan should of filmed this show would of been better....", ">\n\nShould have\nWould have\nPlease learn your basic grammar.", ">\n\nWhy do I have to watch Doja cat play smash or pass while reading this article?", ">\n\n…", ">\n\nABD by Mr Beast anyway", ">\n\nIn the immortal words of Nate Diaz, I'm not surprised motherfuckers" ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set", ">\n\nThe crew will be dressed for the weather, whereas the cast will be dressed for the production.\n\"painful comedy\" indeed, bud.", ">\n\nDid…did they not watch the show during quarantine like we all did ?!", ">\n\nJapan should of filmed this show would of been better....", ">\n\nShould have\nWould have\nPlease learn your basic grammar.", ">\n\nWhy do I have to watch Doja cat play smash or pass while reading this article?", ">\n\n…", ">\n\nABD by Mr Beast anyway", ">\n\nIn the immortal words of Nate Diaz, I'm not surprised motherfuckers", ">\n\nIs the production still going ahead?" ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set", ">\n\nThe crew will be dressed for the weather, whereas the cast will be dressed for the production.\n\"painful comedy\" indeed, bud.", ">\n\nDid…did they not watch the show during quarantine like we all did ?!", ">\n\nJapan should of filmed this show would of been better....", ">\n\nShould have\nWould have\nPlease learn your basic grammar.", ">\n\nWhy do I have to watch Doja cat play smash or pass while reading this article?", ">\n\n…", ">\n\nABD by Mr Beast anyway", ">\n\nIn the immortal words of Nate Diaz, I'm not surprised motherfuckers", ">\n\nIs the production still going ahead?", ">\n\ni was scared that was about show." ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set", ">\n\nThe crew will be dressed for the weather, whereas the cast will be dressed for the production.\n\"painful comedy\" indeed, bud.", ">\n\nDid…did they not watch the show during quarantine like we all did ?!", ">\n\nJapan should of filmed this show would of been better....", ">\n\nShould have\nWould have\nPlease learn your basic grammar.", ">\n\nWhy do I have to watch Doja cat play smash or pass while reading this article?", ">\n\n…", ">\n\nABD by Mr Beast anyway", ">\n\nIn the immortal words of Nate Diaz, I'm not surprised motherfuckers", ">\n\nIs the production still going ahead?", ">\n\ni was scared that was about show.", ">\n\nYeah, filming in a gigantic airship hanger in the middle of the UK winter. That was never going to go down well." ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set", ">\n\nThe crew will be dressed for the weather, whereas the cast will be dressed for the production.\n\"painful comedy\" indeed, bud.", ">\n\nDid…did they not watch the show during quarantine like we all did ?!", ">\n\nJapan should of filmed this show would of been better....", ">\n\nShould have\nWould have\nPlease learn your basic grammar.", ">\n\nWhy do I have to watch Doja cat play smash or pass while reading this article?", ">\n\n…", ">\n\nABD by Mr Beast anyway", ">\n\nIn the immortal words of Nate Diaz, I'm not surprised motherfuckers", ">\n\nIs the production still going ahead?", ">\n\ni was scared that was about show.", ">\n\nYeah, filming in a gigantic airship hanger in the middle of the UK winter. That was never going to go down well.", ">\n\nNo wonder the acting was so good." ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set", ">\n\nThe crew will be dressed for the weather, whereas the cast will be dressed for the production.\n\"painful comedy\" indeed, bud.", ">\n\nDid…did they not watch the show during quarantine like we all did ?!", ">\n\nJapan should of filmed this show would of been better....", ">\n\nShould have\nWould have\nPlease learn your basic grammar.", ">\n\nWhy do I have to watch Doja cat play smash or pass while reading this article?", ">\n\n…", ">\n\nABD by Mr Beast anyway", ">\n\nIn the immortal words of Nate Diaz, I'm not surprised motherfuckers", ">\n\nIs the production still going ahead?", ">\n\ni was scared that was about show.", ">\n\nYeah, filming in a gigantic airship hanger in the middle of the UK winter. That was never going to go down well.", ">\n\nNo wonder the acting was so good.", ">\n\nDon’t believe everything you read online. As someone that was there - I know the truth." ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set", ">\n\nThe crew will be dressed for the weather, whereas the cast will be dressed for the production.\n\"painful comedy\" indeed, bud.", ">\n\nDid…did they not watch the show during quarantine like we all did ?!", ">\n\nJapan should of filmed this show would of been better....", ">\n\nShould have\nWould have\nPlease learn your basic grammar.", ">\n\nWhy do I have to watch Doja cat play smash or pass while reading this article?", ">\n\n…", ">\n\nABD by Mr Beast anyway", ">\n\nIn the immortal words of Nate Diaz, I'm not surprised motherfuckers", ">\n\nIs the production still going ahead?", ">\n\ni was scared that was about show.", ">\n\nYeah, filming in a gigantic airship hanger in the middle of the UK winter. That was never going to go down well.", ">\n\nNo wonder the acting was so good.", ">\n\nDon’t believe everything you read online. As someone that was there - I know the truth.", ">\n\nA Squid Game without at least 3 deaths is considered a dull affair." ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set", ">\n\nThe crew will be dressed for the weather, whereas the cast will be dressed for the production.\n\"painful comedy\" indeed, bud.", ">\n\nDid…did they not watch the show during quarantine like we all did ?!", ">\n\nJapan should of filmed this show would of been better....", ">\n\nShould have\nWould have\nPlease learn your basic grammar.", ">\n\nWhy do I have to watch Doja cat play smash or pass while reading this article?", ">\n\n…", ">\n\nABD by Mr Beast anyway", ">\n\nIn the immortal words of Nate Diaz, I'm not surprised motherfuckers", ">\n\nIs the production still going ahead?", ">\n\ni was scared that was about show.", ">\n\nYeah, filming in a gigantic airship hanger in the middle of the UK winter. That was never going to go down well.", ">\n\nNo wonder the acting was so good.", ">\n\nDon’t believe everything you read online. As someone that was there - I know the truth.", ">\n\nA Squid Game without at least 3 deaths is considered a dull affair.", ">\n\nSomething something Torment Nexus" ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set", ">\n\nThe crew will be dressed for the weather, whereas the cast will be dressed for the production.\n\"painful comedy\" indeed, bud.", ">\n\nDid…did they not watch the show during quarantine like we all did ?!", ">\n\nJapan should of filmed this show would of been better....", ">\n\nShould have\nWould have\nPlease learn your basic grammar.", ">\n\nWhy do I have to watch Doja cat play smash or pass while reading this article?", ">\n\n…", ">\n\nABD by Mr Beast anyway", ">\n\nIn the immortal words of Nate Diaz, I'm not surprised motherfuckers", ">\n\nIs the production still going ahead?", ">\n\ni was scared that was about show.", ">\n\nYeah, filming in a gigantic airship hanger in the middle of the UK winter. That was never going to go down well.", ">\n\nNo wonder the acting was so good.", ">\n\nDon’t believe everything you read online. As someone that was there - I know the truth.", ">\n\nA Squid Game without at least 3 deaths is considered a dull affair.", ">\n\nSomething something Torment Nexus", ">\n\nIs no one else absolutely shocked that this was an actual reality show? I thought it was produced and created by actors, not people actually competing for money" ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set", ">\n\nThe crew will be dressed for the weather, whereas the cast will be dressed for the production.\n\"painful comedy\" indeed, bud.", ">\n\nDid…did they not watch the show during quarantine like we all did ?!", ">\n\nJapan should of filmed this show would of been better....", ">\n\nShould have\nWould have\nPlease learn your basic grammar.", ">\n\nWhy do I have to watch Doja cat play smash or pass while reading this article?", ">\n\n…", ">\n\nABD by Mr Beast anyway", ">\n\nIn the immortal words of Nate Diaz, I'm not surprised motherfuckers", ">\n\nIs the production still going ahead?", ">\n\ni was scared that was about show.", ">\n\nYeah, filming in a gigantic airship hanger in the middle of the UK winter. That was never going to go down well.", ">\n\nNo wonder the acting was so good.", ">\n\nDon’t believe everything you read online. As someone that was there - I know the truth.", ">\n\nA Squid Game without at least 3 deaths is considered a dull affair.", ">\n\nSomething something Torment Nexus", ">\n\nIs no one else absolutely shocked that this was an actual reality show? I thought it was produced and created by actors, not people actually competing for money", ">\n\nDAE feel like that article just repeated the same info over and over?" ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set", ">\n\nThe crew will be dressed for the weather, whereas the cast will be dressed for the production.\n\"painful comedy\" indeed, bud.", ">\n\nDid…did they not watch the show during quarantine like we all did ?!", ">\n\nJapan should of filmed this show would of been better....", ">\n\nShould have\nWould have\nPlease learn your basic grammar.", ">\n\nWhy do I have to watch Doja cat play smash or pass while reading this article?", ">\n\n…", ">\n\nABD by Mr Beast anyway", ">\n\nIn the immortal words of Nate Diaz, I'm not surprised motherfuckers", ">\n\nIs the production still going ahead?", ">\n\ni was scared that was about show.", ">\n\nYeah, filming in a gigantic airship hanger in the middle of the UK winter. That was never going to go down well.", ">\n\nNo wonder the acting was so good.", ">\n\nDon’t believe everything you read online. As someone that was there - I know the truth.", ">\n\nA Squid Game without at least 3 deaths is considered a dull affair.", ">\n\nSomething something Torment Nexus", ">\n\nIs no one else absolutely shocked that this was an actual reality show? I thought it was produced and created by actors, not people actually competing for money", ">\n\nDAE feel like that article just repeated the same info over and over?", ">\n\nI still haven't even watched the original series yet. Is it decent?" ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set", ">\n\nThe crew will be dressed for the weather, whereas the cast will be dressed for the production.\n\"painful comedy\" indeed, bud.", ">\n\nDid…did they not watch the show during quarantine like we all did ?!", ">\n\nJapan should of filmed this show would of been better....", ">\n\nShould have\nWould have\nPlease learn your basic grammar.", ">\n\nWhy do I have to watch Doja cat play smash or pass while reading this article?", ">\n\n…", ">\n\nABD by Mr Beast anyway", ">\n\nIn the immortal words of Nate Diaz, I'm not surprised motherfuckers", ">\n\nIs the production still going ahead?", ">\n\ni was scared that was about show.", ">\n\nYeah, filming in a gigantic airship hanger in the middle of the UK winter. That was never going to go down well.", ">\n\nNo wonder the acting was so good.", ">\n\nDon’t believe everything you read online. As someone that was there - I know the truth.", ">\n\nA Squid Game without at least 3 deaths is considered a dull affair.", ">\n\nSomething something Torment Nexus", ">\n\nIs no one else absolutely shocked that this was an actual reality show? I thought it was produced and created by actors, not people actually competing for money", ">\n\nDAE feel like that article just repeated the same info over and over?", ">\n\nI still haven't even watched the original series yet. Is it decent?", ">\n\nThis just makes me want to see it more lmao. Will it even make it to release" ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set", ">\n\nThe crew will be dressed for the weather, whereas the cast will be dressed for the production.\n\"painful comedy\" indeed, bud.", ">\n\nDid…did they not watch the show during quarantine like we all did ?!", ">\n\nJapan should of filmed this show would of been better....", ">\n\nShould have\nWould have\nPlease learn your basic grammar.", ">\n\nWhy do I have to watch Doja cat play smash or pass while reading this article?", ">\n\n…", ">\n\nABD by Mr Beast anyway", ">\n\nIn the immortal words of Nate Diaz, I'm not surprised motherfuckers", ">\n\nIs the production still going ahead?", ">\n\ni was scared that was about show.", ">\n\nYeah, filming in a gigantic airship hanger in the middle of the UK winter. That was never going to go down well.", ">\n\nNo wonder the acting was so good.", ">\n\nDon’t believe everything you read online. As someone that was there - I know the truth.", ">\n\nA Squid Game without at least 3 deaths is considered a dull affair.", ">\n\nSomething something Torment Nexus", ">\n\nIs no one else absolutely shocked that this was an actual reality show? I thought it was produced and created by actors, not people actually competing for money", ">\n\nDAE feel like that article just repeated the same info over and over?", ">\n\nI still haven't even watched the original series yet. Is it decent?", ">\n\nThis just makes me want to see it more lmao. Will it even make it to release", ">\n\nThis is going to make a great documentary in a couple years." ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set", ">\n\nThe crew will be dressed for the weather, whereas the cast will be dressed for the production.\n\"painful comedy\" indeed, bud.", ">\n\nDid…did they not watch the show during quarantine like we all did ?!", ">\n\nJapan should of filmed this show would of been better....", ">\n\nShould have\nWould have\nPlease learn your basic grammar.", ">\n\nWhy do I have to watch Doja cat play smash or pass while reading this article?", ">\n\n…", ">\n\nABD by Mr Beast anyway", ">\n\nIn the immortal words of Nate Diaz, I'm not surprised motherfuckers", ">\n\nIs the production still going ahead?", ">\n\ni was scared that was about show.", ">\n\nYeah, filming in a gigantic airship hanger in the middle of the UK winter. That was never going to go down well.", ">\n\nNo wonder the acting was so good.", ">\n\nDon’t believe everything you read online. As someone that was there - I know the truth.", ">\n\nA Squid Game without at least 3 deaths is considered a dull affair.", ">\n\nSomething something Torment Nexus", ">\n\nIs no one else absolutely shocked that this was an actual reality show? I thought it was produced and created by actors, not people actually competing for money", ">\n\nDAE feel like that article just repeated the same info over and over?", ">\n\nI still haven't even watched the original series yet. Is it decent?", ">\n\nThis just makes me want to see it more lmao. Will it even make it to release", ">\n\nThis is going to make a great documentary in a couple years.", ">\n\nhaha hahahahahahahahaha how did people not see this coming?? I'm confused" ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set", ">\n\nThe crew will be dressed for the weather, whereas the cast will be dressed for the production.\n\"painful comedy\" indeed, bud.", ">\n\nDid…did they not watch the show during quarantine like we all did ?!", ">\n\nJapan should of filmed this show would of been better....", ">\n\nShould have\nWould have\nPlease learn your basic grammar.", ">\n\nWhy do I have to watch Doja cat play smash or pass while reading this article?", ">\n\n…", ">\n\nABD by Mr Beast anyway", ">\n\nIn the immortal words of Nate Diaz, I'm not surprised motherfuckers", ">\n\nIs the production still going ahead?", ">\n\ni was scared that was about show.", ">\n\nYeah, filming in a gigantic airship hanger in the middle of the UK winter. That was never going to go down well.", ">\n\nNo wonder the acting was so good.", ">\n\nDon’t believe everything you read online. As someone that was there - I know the truth.", ">\n\nA Squid Game without at least 3 deaths is considered a dull affair.", ">\n\nSomething something Torment Nexus", ">\n\nIs no one else absolutely shocked that this was an actual reality show? I thought it was produced and created by actors, not people actually competing for money", ">\n\nDAE feel like that article just repeated the same info over and over?", ">\n\nI still haven't even watched the original series yet. Is it decent?", ">\n\nThis just makes me want to see it more lmao. Will it even make it to release", ">\n\nThis is going to make a great documentary in a couple years.", ">\n\nhaha hahahahahahahahaha how did people not see this coming?? I'm confused", ">\n\nTIL: squid game was actually a game show???\nWas it? I thought it was just a stupid drama I never watched." ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set", ">\n\nThe crew will be dressed for the weather, whereas the cast will be dressed for the production.\n\"painful comedy\" indeed, bud.", ">\n\nDid…did they not watch the show during quarantine like we all did ?!", ">\n\nJapan should of filmed this show would of been better....", ">\n\nShould have\nWould have\nPlease learn your basic grammar.", ">\n\nWhy do I have to watch Doja cat play smash or pass while reading this article?", ">\n\n…", ">\n\nABD by Mr Beast anyway", ">\n\nIn the immortal words of Nate Diaz, I'm not surprised motherfuckers", ">\n\nIs the production still going ahead?", ">\n\ni was scared that was about show.", ">\n\nYeah, filming in a gigantic airship hanger in the middle of the UK winter. That was never going to go down well.", ">\n\nNo wonder the acting was so good.", ">\n\nDon’t believe everything you read online. As someone that was there - I know the truth.", ">\n\nA Squid Game without at least 3 deaths is considered a dull affair.", ">\n\nSomething something Torment Nexus", ">\n\nIs no one else absolutely shocked that this was an actual reality show? I thought it was produced and created by actors, not people actually competing for money", ">\n\nDAE feel like that article just repeated the same info over and over?", ">\n\nI still haven't even watched the original series yet. Is it decent?", ">\n\nThis just makes me want to see it more lmao. Will it even make it to release", ">\n\nThis is going to make a great documentary in a couple years.", ">\n\nhaha hahahahahahahahaha how did people not see this coming?? I'm confused", ">\n\nTIL: squid game was actually a game show???\nWas it? I thought it was just a stupid drama I never watched.", ">\n\nNo, it was a drama with the premise that the main characters were playing games where if you failed, you were killed. If you survive, you win massive amounts of money. \nThey’re now making a reality show with a similar premise except contestants don’t die, they’re just eliminated from the reality show" ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set", ">\n\nThe crew will be dressed for the weather, whereas the cast will be dressed for the production.\n\"painful comedy\" indeed, bud.", ">\n\nDid…did they not watch the show during quarantine like we all did ?!", ">\n\nJapan should of filmed this show would of been better....", ">\n\nShould have\nWould have\nPlease learn your basic grammar.", ">\n\nWhy do I have to watch Doja cat play smash or pass while reading this article?", ">\n\n…", ">\n\nABD by Mr Beast anyway", ">\n\nIn the immortal words of Nate Diaz, I'm not surprised motherfuckers", ">\n\nIs the production still going ahead?", ">\n\ni was scared that was about show.", ">\n\nYeah, filming in a gigantic airship hanger in the middle of the UK winter. That was never going to go down well.", ">\n\nNo wonder the acting was so good.", ">\n\nDon’t believe everything you read online. As someone that was there - I know the truth.", ">\n\nA Squid Game without at least 3 deaths is considered a dull affair.", ">\n\nSomething something Torment Nexus", ">\n\nIs no one else absolutely shocked that this was an actual reality show? I thought it was produced and created by actors, not people actually competing for money", ">\n\nDAE feel like that article just repeated the same info over and over?", ">\n\nI still haven't even watched the original series yet. Is it decent?", ">\n\nThis just makes me want to see it more lmao. Will it even make it to release", ">\n\nThis is going to make a great documentary in a couple years.", ">\n\nhaha hahahahahahahahaha how did people not see this coming?? I'm confused", ">\n\nTIL: squid game was actually a game show???\nWas it? I thought it was just a stupid drama I never watched.", ">\n\nNo, it was a drama with the premise that the main characters were playing games where if you failed, you were killed. If you survive, you win massive amounts of money. \nThey’re now making a reality show with a similar premise except contestants don’t die, they’re just eliminated from the reality show", ">\n\nIsn't that the whole point?" ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set", ">\n\nThe crew will be dressed for the weather, whereas the cast will be dressed for the production.\n\"painful comedy\" indeed, bud.", ">\n\nDid…did they not watch the show during quarantine like we all did ?!", ">\n\nJapan should of filmed this show would of been better....", ">\n\nShould have\nWould have\nPlease learn your basic grammar.", ">\n\nWhy do I have to watch Doja cat play smash or pass while reading this article?", ">\n\n…", ">\n\nABD by Mr Beast anyway", ">\n\nIn the immortal words of Nate Diaz, I'm not surprised motherfuckers", ">\n\nIs the production still going ahead?", ">\n\ni was scared that was about show.", ">\n\nYeah, filming in a gigantic airship hanger in the middle of the UK winter. That was never going to go down well.", ">\n\nNo wonder the acting was so good.", ">\n\nDon’t believe everything you read online. As someone that was there - I know the truth.", ">\n\nA Squid Game without at least 3 deaths is considered a dull affair.", ">\n\nSomething something Torment Nexus", ">\n\nIs no one else absolutely shocked that this was an actual reality show? I thought it was produced and created by actors, not people actually competing for money", ">\n\nDAE feel like that article just repeated the same info over and over?", ">\n\nI still haven't even watched the original series yet. Is it decent?", ">\n\nThis just makes me want to see it more lmao. Will it even make it to release", ">\n\nThis is going to make a great documentary in a couple years.", ">\n\nhaha hahahahahahahahaha how did people not see this coming?? I'm confused", ">\n\nTIL: squid game was actually a game show???\nWas it? I thought it was just a stupid drama I never watched.", ">\n\nNo, it was a drama with the premise that the main characters were playing games where if you failed, you were killed. If you survive, you win massive amounts of money. \nThey’re now making a reality show with a similar premise except contestants don’t die, they’re just eliminated from the reality show", ">\n\nIsn't that the whole point?", ">\n\nThey forgot the part where anyone could quit and leave at any time" ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set", ">\n\nThe crew will be dressed for the weather, whereas the cast will be dressed for the production.\n\"painful comedy\" indeed, bud.", ">\n\nDid…did they not watch the show during quarantine like we all did ?!", ">\n\nJapan should of filmed this show would of been better....", ">\n\nShould have\nWould have\nPlease learn your basic grammar.", ">\n\nWhy do I have to watch Doja cat play smash or pass while reading this article?", ">\n\n…", ">\n\nABD by Mr Beast anyway", ">\n\nIn the immortal words of Nate Diaz, I'm not surprised motherfuckers", ">\n\nIs the production still going ahead?", ">\n\ni was scared that was about show.", ">\n\nYeah, filming in a gigantic airship hanger in the middle of the UK winter. That was never going to go down well.", ">\n\nNo wonder the acting was so good.", ">\n\nDon’t believe everything you read online. As someone that was there - I know the truth.", ">\n\nA Squid Game without at least 3 deaths is considered a dull affair.", ">\n\nSomething something Torment Nexus", ">\n\nIs no one else absolutely shocked that this was an actual reality show? I thought it was produced and created by actors, not people actually competing for money", ">\n\nDAE feel like that article just repeated the same info over and over?", ">\n\nI still haven't even watched the original series yet. Is it decent?", ">\n\nThis just makes me want to see it more lmao. Will it even make it to release", ">\n\nThis is going to make a great documentary in a couple years.", ">\n\nhaha hahahahahahahahaha how did people not see this coming?? I'm confused", ">\n\nTIL: squid game was actually a game show???\nWas it? I thought it was just a stupid drama I never watched.", ">\n\nNo, it was a drama with the premise that the main characters were playing games where if you failed, you were killed. If you survive, you win massive amounts of money. \nThey’re now making a reality show with a similar premise except contestants don’t die, they’re just eliminated from the reality show", ">\n\nIsn't that the whole point?", ">\n\nThey forgot the part where anyone could quit and leave at any time", ">\n\n\"Sounds just like a military deployment\", Tom Brady, allegedly" ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set", ">\n\nThe crew will be dressed for the weather, whereas the cast will be dressed for the production.\n\"painful comedy\" indeed, bud.", ">\n\nDid…did they not watch the show during quarantine like we all did ?!", ">\n\nJapan should of filmed this show would of been better....", ">\n\nShould have\nWould have\nPlease learn your basic grammar.", ">\n\nWhy do I have to watch Doja cat play smash or pass while reading this article?", ">\n\n…", ">\n\nABD by Mr Beast anyway", ">\n\nIn the immortal words of Nate Diaz, I'm not surprised motherfuckers", ">\n\nIs the production still going ahead?", ">\n\ni was scared that was about show.", ">\n\nYeah, filming in a gigantic airship hanger in the middle of the UK winter. That was never going to go down well.", ">\n\nNo wonder the acting was so good.", ">\n\nDon’t believe everything you read online. As someone that was there - I know the truth.", ">\n\nA Squid Game without at least 3 deaths is considered a dull affair.", ">\n\nSomething something Torment Nexus", ">\n\nIs no one else absolutely shocked that this was an actual reality show? I thought it was produced and created by actors, not people actually competing for money", ">\n\nDAE feel like that article just repeated the same info over and over?", ">\n\nI still haven't even watched the original series yet. Is it decent?", ">\n\nThis just makes me want to see it more lmao. Will it even make it to release", ">\n\nThis is going to make a great documentary in a couple years.", ">\n\nhaha hahahahahahahahaha how did people not see this coming?? I'm confused", ">\n\nTIL: squid game was actually a game show???\nWas it? I thought it was just a stupid drama I never watched.", ">\n\nNo, it was a drama with the premise that the main characters were playing games where if you failed, you were killed. If you survive, you win massive amounts of money. \nThey’re now making a reality show with a similar premise except contestants don’t die, they’re just eliminated from the reality show", ">\n\nIsn't that the whole point?", ">\n\nThey forgot the part where anyone could quit and leave at any time", ">\n\n\"Sounds just like a military deployment\", Tom Brady, allegedly", ">\n\nI was confused because I thought this was pertaining to the Korean version, Physical: 100 that’s airing now on Netflix. I think when you have 400+ contestants on any show it adds a layer of chaos. How does a production company manage this amount of people? Keeping them happy and out of the Press was obviously difficult for them. Other competition shows have been exposed as having inhumane conditions at times but because the cast is so small the production company can do damage control a lot easier and keep them quiet." ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set", ">\n\nThe crew will be dressed for the weather, whereas the cast will be dressed for the production.\n\"painful comedy\" indeed, bud.", ">\n\nDid…did they not watch the show during quarantine like we all did ?!", ">\n\nJapan should of filmed this show would of been better....", ">\n\nShould have\nWould have\nPlease learn your basic grammar.", ">\n\nWhy do I have to watch Doja cat play smash or pass while reading this article?", ">\n\n…", ">\n\nABD by Mr Beast anyway", ">\n\nIn the immortal words of Nate Diaz, I'm not surprised motherfuckers", ">\n\nIs the production still going ahead?", ">\n\ni was scared that was about show.", ">\n\nYeah, filming in a gigantic airship hanger in the middle of the UK winter. That was never going to go down well.", ">\n\nNo wonder the acting was so good.", ">\n\nDon’t believe everything you read online. As someone that was there - I know the truth.", ">\n\nA Squid Game without at least 3 deaths is considered a dull affair.", ">\n\nSomething something Torment Nexus", ">\n\nIs no one else absolutely shocked that this was an actual reality show? I thought it was produced and created by actors, not people actually competing for money", ">\n\nDAE feel like that article just repeated the same info over and over?", ">\n\nI still haven't even watched the original series yet. Is it decent?", ">\n\nThis just makes me want to see it more lmao. Will it even make it to release", ">\n\nThis is going to make a great documentary in a couple years.", ">\n\nhaha hahahahahahahahaha how did people not see this coming?? I'm confused", ">\n\nTIL: squid game was actually a game show???\nWas it? I thought it was just a stupid drama I never watched.", ">\n\nNo, it was a drama with the premise that the main characters were playing games where if you failed, you were killed. If you survive, you win massive amounts of money. \nThey’re now making a reality show with a similar premise except contestants don’t die, they’re just eliminated from the reality show", ">\n\nIsn't that the whole point?", ">\n\nThey forgot the part where anyone could quit and leave at any time", ">\n\n\"Sounds just like a military deployment\", Tom Brady, allegedly", ">\n\nI was confused because I thought this was pertaining to the Korean version, Physical: 100 that’s airing now on Netflix. I think when you have 400+ contestants on any show it adds a layer of chaos. How does a production company manage this amount of people? Keeping them happy and out of the Press was obviously difficult for them. Other competition shows have been exposed as having inhumane conditions at times but because the cast is so small the production company can do damage control a lot easier and keep them quiet.", ">\n\nWasn't the whole point of the Squid Game red light green light that they only had a small amount of time to get to the end? Why in the world were they waiting for 30+ minutes on that alone?" ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set", ">\n\nThe crew will be dressed for the weather, whereas the cast will be dressed for the production.\n\"painful comedy\" indeed, bud.", ">\n\nDid…did they not watch the show during quarantine like we all did ?!", ">\n\nJapan should of filmed this show would of been better....", ">\n\nShould have\nWould have\nPlease learn your basic grammar.", ">\n\nWhy do I have to watch Doja cat play smash or pass while reading this article?", ">\n\n…", ">\n\nABD by Mr Beast anyway", ">\n\nIn the immortal words of Nate Diaz, I'm not surprised motherfuckers", ">\n\nIs the production still going ahead?", ">\n\ni was scared that was about show.", ">\n\nYeah, filming in a gigantic airship hanger in the middle of the UK winter. That was never going to go down well.", ">\n\nNo wonder the acting was so good.", ">\n\nDon’t believe everything you read online. As someone that was there - I know the truth.", ">\n\nA Squid Game without at least 3 deaths is considered a dull affair.", ">\n\nSomething something Torment Nexus", ">\n\nIs no one else absolutely shocked that this was an actual reality show? I thought it was produced and created by actors, not people actually competing for money", ">\n\nDAE feel like that article just repeated the same info over and over?", ">\n\nI still haven't even watched the original series yet. Is it decent?", ">\n\nThis just makes me want to see it more lmao. Will it even make it to release", ">\n\nThis is going to make a great documentary in a couple years.", ">\n\nhaha hahahahahahahahaha how did people not see this coming?? I'm confused", ">\n\nTIL: squid game was actually a game show???\nWas it? I thought it was just a stupid drama I never watched.", ">\n\nNo, it was a drama with the premise that the main characters were playing games where if you failed, you were killed. If you survive, you win massive amounts of money. \nThey’re now making a reality show with a similar premise except contestants don’t die, they’re just eliminated from the reality show", ">\n\nIsn't that the whole point?", ">\n\nThey forgot the part where anyone could quit and leave at any time", ">\n\n\"Sounds just like a military deployment\", Tom Brady, allegedly", ">\n\nI was confused because I thought this was pertaining to the Korean version, Physical: 100 that’s airing now on Netflix. I think when you have 400+ contestants on any show it adds a layer of chaos. How does a production company manage this amount of people? Keeping them happy and out of the Press was obviously difficult for them. Other competition shows have been exposed as having inhumane conditions at times but because the cast is so small the production company can do damage control a lot easier and keep them quiet.", ">\n\nWasn't the whole point of the Squid Game red light green light that they only had a small amount of time to get to the end? Why in the world were they waiting for 30+ minutes on that alone?", ">\n\nIm sure these news will discourage everyone from consuming their products just like every time some company is shown to be doing something less than ideal against their workers or customers." ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set", ">\n\nThe crew will be dressed for the weather, whereas the cast will be dressed for the production.\n\"painful comedy\" indeed, bud.", ">\n\nDid…did they not watch the show during quarantine like we all did ?!", ">\n\nJapan should of filmed this show would of been better....", ">\n\nShould have\nWould have\nPlease learn your basic grammar.", ">\n\nWhy do I have to watch Doja cat play smash or pass while reading this article?", ">\n\n…", ">\n\nABD by Mr Beast anyway", ">\n\nIn the immortal words of Nate Diaz, I'm not surprised motherfuckers", ">\n\nIs the production still going ahead?", ">\n\ni was scared that was about show.", ">\n\nYeah, filming in a gigantic airship hanger in the middle of the UK winter. That was never going to go down well.", ">\n\nNo wonder the acting was so good.", ">\n\nDon’t believe everything you read online. As someone that was there - I know the truth.", ">\n\nA Squid Game without at least 3 deaths is considered a dull affair.", ">\n\nSomething something Torment Nexus", ">\n\nIs no one else absolutely shocked that this was an actual reality show? I thought it was produced and created by actors, not people actually competing for money", ">\n\nDAE feel like that article just repeated the same info over and over?", ">\n\nI still haven't even watched the original series yet. Is it decent?", ">\n\nThis just makes me want to see it more lmao. Will it even make it to release", ">\n\nThis is going to make a great documentary in a couple years.", ">\n\nhaha hahahahahahahahaha how did people not see this coming?? I'm confused", ">\n\nTIL: squid game was actually a game show???\nWas it? I thought it was just a stupid drama I never watched.", ">\n\nNo, it was a drama with the premise that the main characters were playing games where if you failed, you were killed. If you survive, you win massive amounts of money. \nThey’re now making a reality show with a similar premise except contestants don’t die, they’re just eliminated from the reality show", ">\n\nIsn't that the whole point?", ">\n\nThey forgot the part where anyone could quit and leave at any time", ">\n\n\"Sounds just like a military deployment\", Tom Brady, allegedly", ">\n\nI was confused because I thought this was pertaining to the Korean version, Physical: 100 that’s airing now on Netflix. I think when you have 400+ contestants on any show it adds a layer of chaos. How does a production company manage this amount of people? Keeping them happy and out of the Press was obviously difficult for them. Other competition shows have been exposed as having inhumane conditions at times but because the cast is so small the production company can do damage control a lot easier and keep them quiet.", ">\n\nWasn't the whole point of the Squid Game red light green light that they only had a small amount of time to get to the end? Why in the world were they waiting for 30+ minutes on that alone?", ">\n\nIm sure these news will discourage everyone from consuming their products just like every time some company is shown to be doing something less than ideal against their workers or customers.", ">\n\nBoo hoo" ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set", ">\n\nThe crew will be dressed for the weather, whereas the cast will be dressed for the production.\n\"painful comedy\" indeed, bud.", ">\n\nDid…did they not watch the show during quarantine like we all did ?!", ">\n\nJapan should of filmed this show would of been better....", ">\n\nShould have\nWould have\nPlease learn your basic grammar.", ">\n\nWhy do I have to watch Doja cat play smash or pass while reading this article?", ">\n\n…", ">\n\nABD by Mr Beast anyway", ">\n\nIn the immortal words of Nate Diaz, I'm not surprised motherfuckers", ">\n\nIs the production still going ahead?", ">\n\ni was scared that was about show.", ">\n\nYeah, filming in a gigantic airship hanger in the middle of the UK winter. That was never going to go down well.", ">\n\nNo wonder the acting was so good.", ">\n\nDon’t believe everything you read online. As someone that was there - I know the truth.", ">\n\nA Squid Game without at least 3 deaths is considered a dull affair.", ">\n\nSomething something Torment Nexus", ">\n\nIs no one else absolutely shocked that this was an actual reality show? I thought it was produced and created by actors, not people actually competing for money", ">\n\nDAE feel like that article just repeated the same info over and over?", ">\n\nI still haven't even watched the original series yet. Is it decent?", ">\n\nThis just makes me want to see it more lmao. Will it even make it to release", ">\n\nThis is going to make a great documentary in a couple years.", ">\n\nhaha hahahahahahahahaha how did people not see this coming?? I'm confused", ">\n\nTIL: squid game was actually a game show???\nWas it? I thought it was just a stupid drama I never watched.", ">\n\nNo, it was a drama with the premise that the main characters were playing games where if you failed, you were killed. If you survive, you win massive amounts of money. \nThey’re now making a reality show with a similar premise except contestants don’t die, they’re just eliminated from the reality show", ">\n\nIsn't that the whole point?", ">\n\nThey forgot the part where anyone could quit and leave at any time", ">\n\n\"Sounds just like a military deployment\", Tom Brady, allegedly", ">\n\nI was confused because I thought this was pertaining to the Korean version, Physical: 100 that’s airing now on Netflix. I think when you have 400+ contestants on any show it adds a layer of chaos. How does a production company manage this amount of people? Keeping them happy and out of the Press was obviously difficult for them. Other competition shows have been exposed as having inhumane conditions at times but because the cast is so small the production company can do damage control a lot easier and keep them quiet.", ">\n\nWasn't the whole point of the Squid Game red light green light that they only had a small amount of time to get to the end? Why in the world were they waiting for 30+ minutes on that alone?", ">\n\nIm sure these news will discourage everyone from consuming their products just like every time some company is shown to be doing something less than ideal against their workers or customers.", ">\n\nBoo hoo", ">\n\n‘The Conditions Were Absolutely Inhumane’ is something everyone in Bedford says, not just these contestants." ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set", ">\n\nThe crew will be dressed for the weather, whereas the cast will be dressed for the production.\n\"painful comedy\" indeed, bud.", ">\n\nDid…did they not watch the show during quarantine like we all did ?!", ">\n\nJapan should of filmed this show would of been better....", ">\n\nShould have\nWould have\nPlease learn your basic grammar.", ">\n\nWhy do I have to watch Doja cat play smash or pass while reading this article?", ">\n\n…", ">\n\nABD by Mr Beast anyway", ">\n\nIn the immortal words of Nate Diaz, I'm not surprised motherfuckers", ">\n\nIs the production still going ahead?", ">\n\ni was scared that was about show.", ">\n\nYeah, filming in a gigantic airship hanger in the middle of the UK winter. That was never going to go down well.", ">\n\nNo wonder the acting was so good.", ">\n\nDon’t believe everything you read online. As someone that was there - I know the truth.", ">\n\nA Squid Game without at least 3 deaths is considered a dull affair.", ">\n\nSomething something Torment Nexus", ">\n\nIs no one else absolutely shocked that this was an actual reality show? I thought it was produced and created by actors, not people actually competing for money", ">\n\nDAE feel like that article just repeated the same info over and over?", ">\n\nI still haven't even watched the original series yet. Is it decent?", ">\n\nThis just makes me want to see it more lmao. Will it even make it to release", ">\n\nThis is going to make a great documentary in a couple years.", ">\n\nhaha hahahahahahahahaha how did people not see this coming?? I'm confused", ">\n\nTIL: squid game was actually a game show???\nWas it? I thought it was just a stupid drama I never watched.", ">\n\nNo, it was a drama with the premise that the main characters were playing games where if you failed, you were killed. If you survive, you win massive amounts of money. \nThey’re now making a reality show with a similar premise except contestants don’t die, they’re just eliminated from the reality show", ">\n\nIsn't that the whole point?", ">\n\nThey forgot the part where anyone could quit and leave at any time", ">\n\n\"Sounds just like a military deployment\", Tom Brady, allegedly", ">\n\nI was confused because I thought this was pertaining to the Korean version, Physical: 100 that’s airing now on Netflix. I think when you have 400+ contestants on any show it adds a layer of chaos. How does a production company manage this amount of people? Keeping them happy and out of the Press was obviously difficult for them. Other competition shows have been exposed as having inhumane conditions at times but because the cast is so small the production company can do damage control a lot easier and keep them quiet.", ">\n\nWasn't the whole point of the Squid Game red light green light that they only had a small amount of time to get to the end? Why in the world were they waiting for 30+ minutes on that alone?", ">\n\nIm sure these news will discourage everyone from consuming their products just like every time some company is shown to be doing something less than ideal against their workers or customers.", ">\n\nBoo hoo", ">\n\n‘The Conditions Were Absolutely Inhumane’ is something everyone in Bedford says, not just these contestants.", ">\n\nI'm not sure this is funny. I have permanent nerve damage in my feet from frostbite." ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set", ">\n\nThe crew will be dressed for the weather, whereas the cast will be dressed for the production.\n\"painful comedy\" indeed, bud.", ">\n\nDid…did they not watch the show during quarantine like we all did ?!", ">\n\nJapan should of filmed this show would of been better....", ">\n\nShould have\nWould have\nPlease learn your basic grammar.", ">\n\nWhy do I have to watch Doja cat play smash or pass while reading this article?", ">\n\n…", ">\n\nABD by Mr Beast anyway", ">\n\nIn the immortal words of Nate Diaz, I'm not surprised motherfuckers", ">\n\nIs the production still going ahead?", ">\n\ni was scared that was about show.", ">\n\nYeah, filming in a gigantic airship hanger in the middle of the UK winter. That was never going to go down well.", ">\n\nNo wonder the acting was so good.", ">\n\nDon’t believe everything you read online. As someone that was there - I know the truth.", ">\n\nA Squid Game without at least 3 deaths is considered a dull affair.", ">\n\nSomething something Torment Nexus", ">\n\nIs no one else absolutely shocked that this was an actual reality show? I thought it was produced and created by actors, not people actually competing for money", ">\n\nDAE feel like that article just repeated the same info over and over?", ">\n\nI still haven't even watched the original series yet. Is it decent?", ">\n\nThis just makes me want to see it more lmao. Will it even make it to release", ">\n\nThis is going to make a great documentary in a couple years.", ">\n\nhaha hahahahahahahahaha how did people not see this coming?? I'm confused", ">\n\nTIL: squid game was actually a game show???\nWas it? I thought it was just a stupid drama I never watched.", ">\n\nNo, it was a drama with the premise that the main characters were playing games where if you failed, you were killed. If you survive, you win massive amounts of money. \nThey’re now making a reality show with a similar premise except contestants don’t die, they’re just eliminated from the reality show", ">\n\nIsn't that the whole point?", ">\n\nThey forgot the part where anyone could quit and leave at any time", ">\n\n\"Sounds just like a military deployment\", Tom Brady, allegedly", ">\n\nI was confused because I thought this was pertaining to the Korean version, Physical: 100 that’s airing now on Netflix. I think when you have 400+ contestants on any show it adds a layer of chaos. How does a production company manage this amount of people? Keeping them happy and out of the Press was obviously difficult for them. Other competition shows have been exposed as having inhumane conditions at times but because the cast is so small the production company can do damage control a lot easier and keep them quiet.", ">\n\nWasn't the whole point of the Squid Game red light green light that they only had a small amount of time to get to the end? Why in the world were they waiting for 30+ minutes on that alone?", ">\n\nIm sure these news will discourage everyone from consuming their products just like every time some company is shown to be doing something less than ideal against their workers or customers.", ">\n\nBoo hoo", ">\n\n‘The Conditions Were Absolutely Inhumane’ is something everyone in Bedford says, not just these contestants.", ">\n\nI'm not sure this is funny. I have permanent nerve damage in my feet from frostbite.", ">\n\nNot surprised, I’ve worked on a handful of Netfkix shows. They’re always an underpaid mess" ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set", ">\n\nThe crew will be dressed for the weather, whereas the cast will be dressed for the production.\n\"painful comedy\" indeed, bud.", ">\n\nDid…did they not watch the show during quarantine like we all did ?!", ">\n\nJapan should of filmed this show would of been better....", ">\n\nShould have\nWould have\nPlease learn your basic grammar.", ">\n\nWhy do I have to watch Doja cat play smash or pass while reading this article?", ">\n\n…", ">\n\nABD by Mr Beast anyway", ">\n\nIn the immortal words of Nate Diaz, I'm not surprised motherfuckers", ">\n\nIs the production still going ahead?", ">\n\ni was scared that was about show.", ">\n\nYeah, filming in a gigantic airship hanger in the middle of the UK winter. That was never going to go down well.", ">\n\nNo wonder the acting was so good.", ">\n\nDon’t believe everything you read online. As someone that was there - I know the truth.", ">\n\nA Squid Game without at least 3 deaths is considered a dull affair.", ">\n\nSomething something Torment Nexus", ">\n\nIs no one else absolutely shocked that this was an actual reality show? I thought it was produced and created by actors, not people actually competing for money", ">\n\nDAE feel like that article just repeated the same info over and over?", ">\n\nI still haven't even watched the original series yet. Is it decent?", ">\n\nThis just makes me want to see it more lmao. Will it even make it to release", ">\n\nThis is going to make a great documentary in a couple years.", ">\n\nhaha hahahahahahahahaha how did people not see this coming?? I'm confused", ">\n\nTIL: squid game was actually a game show???\nWas it? I thought it was just a stupid drama I never watched.", ">\n\nNo, it was a drama with the premise that the main characters were playing games where if you failed, you were killed. If you survive, you win massive amounts of money. \nThey’re now making a reality show with a similar premise except contestants don’t die, they’re just eliminated from the reality show", ">\n\nIsn't that the whole point?", ">\n\nThey forgot the part where anyone could quit and leave at any time", ">\n\n\"Sounds just like a military deployment\", Tom Brady, allegedly", ">\n\nI was confused because I thought this was pertaining to the Korean version, Physical: 100 that’s airing now on Netflix. I think when you have 400+ contestants on any show it adds a layer of chaos. How does a production company manage this amount of people? Keeping them happy and out of the Press was obviously difficult for them. Other competition shows have been exposed as having inhumane conditions at times but because the cast is so small the production company can do damage control a lot easier and keep them quiet.", ">\n\nWasn't the whole point of the Squid Game red light green light that they only had a small amount of time to get to the end? Why in the world were they waiting for 30+ minutes on that alone?", ">\n\nIm sure these news will discourage everyone from consuming their products just like every time some company is shown to be doing something less than ideal against their workers or customers.", ">\n\nBoo hoo", ">\n\n‘The Conditions Were Absolutely Inhumane’ is something everyone in Bedford says, not just these contestants.", ">\n\nI'm not sure this is funny. I have permanent nerve damage in my feet from frostbite.", ">\n\nNot surprised, I’ve worked on a handful of Netfkix shows. They’re always an underpaid mess", ">\n\nI didn't know they're doing an actual reality show version and read through these comments for like 10 minutes wondering what the fuck was going on. \nLike, they're actors. This wasn't a real competition. Am I taking crazy pills?\nNope.. I'm just dumb." ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set", ">\n\nThe crew will be dressed for the weather, whereas the cast will be dressed for the production.\n\"painful comedy\" indeed, bud.", ">\n\nDid…did they not watch the show during quarantine like we all did ?!", ">\n\nJapan should of filmed this show would of been better....", ">\n\nShould have\nWould have\nPlease learn your basic grammar.", ">\n\nWhy do I have to watch Doja cat play smash or pass while reading this article?", ">\n\n…", ">\n\nABD by Mr Beast anyway", ">\n\nIn the immortal words of Nate Diaz, I'm not surprised motherfuckers", ">\n\nIs the production still going ahead?", ">\n\ni was scared that was about show.", ">\n\nYeah, filming in a gigantic airship hanger in the middle of the UK winter. That was never going to go down well.", ">\n\nNo wonder the acting was so good.", ">\n\nDon’t believe everything you read online. As someone that was there - I know the truth.", ">\n\nA Squid Game without at least 3 deaths is considered a dull affair.", ">\n\nSomething something Torment Nexus", ">\n\nIs no one else absolutely shocked that this was an actual reality show? I thought it was produced and created by actors, not people actually competing for money", ">\n\nDAE feel like that article just repeated the same info over and over?", ">\n\nI still haven't even watched the original series yet. Is it decent?", ">\n\nThis just makes me want to see it more lmao. Will it even make it to release", ">\n\nThis is going to make a great documentary in a couple years.", ">\n\nhaha hahahahahahahahaha how did people not see this coming?? I'm confused", ">\n\nTIL: squid game was actually a game show???\nWas it? I thought it was just a stupid drama I never watched.", ">\n\nNo, it was a drama with the premise that the main characters were playing games where if you failed, you were killed. If you survive, you win massive amounts of money. \nThey’re now making a reality show with a similar premise except contestants don’t die, they’re just eliminated from the reality show", ">\n\nIsn't that the whole point?", ">\n\nThey forgot the part where anyone could quit and leave at any time", ">\n\n\"Sounds just like a military deployment\", Tom Brady, allegedly", ">\n\nI was confused because I thought this was pertaining to the Korean version, Physical: 100 that’s airing now on Netflix. I think when you have 400+ contestants on any show it adds a layer of chaos. How does a production company manage this amount of people? Keeping them happy and out of the Press was obviously difficult for them. Other competition shows have been exposed as having inhumane conditions at times but because the cast is so small the production company can do damage control a lot easier and keep them quiet.", ">\n\nWasn't the whole point of the Squid Game red light green light that they only had a small amount of time to get to the end? Why in the world were they waiting for 30+ minutes on that alone?", ">\n\nIm sure these news will discourage everyone from consuming their products just like every time some company is shown to be doing something less than ideal against their workers or customers.", ">\n\nBoo hoo", ">\n\n‘The Conditions Were Absolutely Inhumane’ is something everyone in Bedford says, not just these contestants.", ">\n\nI'm not sure this is funny. I have permanent nerve damage in my feet from frostbite.", ">\n\nNot surprised, I’ve worked on a handful of Netfkix shows. They’re always an underpaid mess", ">\n\nI didn't know they're doing an actual reality show version and read through these comments for like 10 minutes wondering what the fuck was going on. \nLike, they're actors. This wasn't a real competition. Am I taking crazy pills?\nNope.. I'm just dumb.", ">\n\nbro just stick with mr beast squid game" ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set", ">\n\nThe crew will be dressed for the weather, whereas the cast will be dressed for the production.\n\"painful comedy\" indeed, bud.", ">\n\nDid…did they not watch the show during quarantine like we all did ?!", ">\n\nJapan should of filmed this show would of been better....", ">\n\nShould have\nWould have\nPlease learn your basic grammar.", ">\n\nWhy do I have to watch Doja cat play smash or pass while reading this article?", ">\n\n…", ">\n\nABD by Mr Beast anyway", ">\n\nIn the immortal words of Nate Diaz, I'm not surprised motherfuckers", ">\n\nIs the production still going ahead?", ">\n\ni was scared that was about show.", ">\n\nYeah, filming in a gigantic airship hanger in the middle of the UK winter. That was never going to go down well.", ">\n\nNo wonder the acting was so good.", ">\n\nDon’t believe everything you read online. As someone that was there - I know the truth.", ">\n\nA Squid Game without at least 3 deaths is considered a dull affair.", ">\n\nSomething something Torment Nexus", ">\n\nIs no one else absolutely shocked that this was an actual reality show? I thought it was produced and created by actors, not people actually competing for money", ">\n\nDAE feel like that article just repeated the same info over and over?", ">\n\nI still haven't even watched the original series yet. Is it decent?", ">\n\nThis just makes me want to see it more lmao. Will it even make it to release", ">\n\nThis is going to make a great documentary in a couple years.", ">\n\nhaha hahahahahahahahaha how did people not see this coming?? I'm confused", ">\n\nTIL: squid game was actually a game show???\nWas it? I thought it was just a stupid drama I never watched.", ">\n\nNo, it was a drama with the premise that the main characters were playing games where if you failed, you were killed. If you survive, you win massive amounts of money. \nThey’re now making a reality show with a similar premise except contestants don’t die, they’re just eliminated from the reality show", ">\n\nIsn't that the whole point?", ">\n\nThey forgot the part where anyone could quit and leave at any time", ">\n\n\"Sounds just like a military deployment\", Tom Brady, allegedly", ">\n\nI was confused because I thought this was pertaining to the Korean version, Physical: 100 that’s airing now on Netflix. I think when you have 400+ contestants on any show it adds a layer of chaos. How does a production company manage this amount of people? Keeping them happy and out of the Press was obviously difficult for them. Other competition shows have been exposed as having inhumane conditions at times but because the cast is so small the production company can do damage control a lot easier and keep them quiet.", ">\n\nWasn't the whole point of the Squid Game red light green light that they only had a small amount of time to get to the end? Why in the world were they waiting for 30+ minutes on that alone?", ">\n\nIm sure these news will discourage everyone from consuming their products just like every time some company is shown to be doing something less than ideal against their workers or customers.", ">\n\nBoo hoo", ">\n\n‘The Conditions Were Absolutely Inhumane’ is something everyone in Bedford says, not just these contestants.", ">\n\nI'm not sure this is funny. I have permanent nerve damage in my feet from frostbite.", ">\n\nNot surprised, I’ve worked on a handful of Netfkix shows. They’re always an underpaid mess", ">\n\nI didn't know they're doing an actual reality show version and read through these comments for like 10 minutes wondering what the fuck was going on. \nLike, they're actors. This wasn't a real competition. Am I taking crazy pills?\nNope.. I'm just dumb.", ">\n\nbro just stick with mr beast squid game", ">\n\nWowzers, its almost like the entire aim of the show is that feelings of desire and the want for more are so strong that people in desparate situations will kill eachother just to live a normal life. 🤯😲" ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set", ">\n\nThe crew will be dressed for the weather, whereas the cast will be dressed for the production.\n\"painful comedy\" indeed, bud.", ">\n\nDid…did they not watch the show during quarantine like we all did ?!", ">\n\nJapan should of filmed this show would of been better....", ">\n\nShould have\nWould have\nPlease learn your basic grammar.", ">\n\nWhy do I have to watch Doja cat play smash or pass while reading this article?", ">\n\n…", ">\n\nABD by Mr Beast anyway", ">\n\nIn the immortal words of Nate Diaz, I'm not surprised motherfuckers", ">\n\nIs the production still going ahead?", ">\n\ni was scared that was about show.", ">\n\nYeah, filming in a gigantic airship hanger in the middle of the UK winter. That was never going to go down well.", ">\n\nNo wonder the acting was so good.", ">\n\nDon’t believe everything you read online. As someone that was there - I know the truth.", ">\n\nA Squid Game without at least 3 deaths is considered a dull affair.", ">\n\nSomething something Torment Nexus", ">\n\nIs no one else absolutely shocked that this was an actual reality show? I thought it was produced and created by actors, not people actually competing for money", ">\n\nDAE feel like that article just repeated the same info over and over?", ">\n\nI still haven't even watched the original series yet. Is it decent?", ">\n\nThis just makes me want to see it more lmao. Will it even make it to release", ">\n\nThis is going to make a great documentary in a couple years.", ">\n\nhaha hahahahahahahahaha how did people not see this coming?? I'm confused", ">\n\nTIL: squid game was actually a game show???\nWas it? I thought it was just a stupid drama I never watched.", ">\n\nNo, it was a drama with the premise that the main characters were playing games where if you failed, you were killed. If you survive, you win massive amounts of money. \nThey’re now making a reality show with a similar premise except contestants don’t die, they’re just eliminated from the reality show", ">\n\nIsn't that the whole point?", ">\n\nThey forgot the part where anyone could quit and leave at any time", ">\n\n\"Sounds just like a military deployment\", Tom Brady, allegedly", ">\n\nI was confused because I thought this was pertaining to the Korean version, Physical: 100 that’s airing now on Netflix. I think when you have 400+ contestants on any show it adds a layer of chaos. How does a production company manage this amount of people? Keeping them happy and out of the Press was obviously difficult for them. Other competition shows have been exposed as having inhumane conditions at times but because the cast is so small the production company can do damage control a lot easier and keep them quiet.", ">\n\nWasn't the whole point of the Squid Game red light green light that they only had a small amount of time to get to the end? Why in the world were they waiting for 30+ minutes on that alone?", ">\n\nIm sure these news will discourage everyone from consuming their products just like every time some company is shown to be doing something less than ideal against their workers or customers.", ">\n\nBoo hoo", ">\n\n‘The Conditions Were Absolutely Inhumane’ is something everyone in Bedford says, not just these contestants.", ">\n\nI'm not sure this is funny. I have permanent nerve damage in my feet from frostbite.", ">\n\nNot surprised, I’ve worked on a handful of Netfkix shows. They’re always an underpaid mess", ">\n\nI didn't know they're doing an actual reality show version and read through these comments for like 10 minutes wondering what the fuck was going on. \nLike, they're actors. This wasn't a real competition. Am I taking crazy pills?\nNope.. I'm just dumb.", ">\n\nbro just stick with mr beast squid game", ">\n\nWowzers, its almost like the entire aim of the show is that feelings of desire and the want for more are so strong that people in desparate situations will kill eachother just to live a normal life. 🤯😲", ">\n\nI’m shocked" ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set", ">\n\nThe crew will be dressed for the weather, whereas the cast will be dressed for the production.\n\"painful comedy\" indeed, bud.", ">\n\nDid…did they not watch the show during quarantine like we all did ?!", ">\n\nJapan should of filmed this show would of been better....", ">\n\nShould have\nWould have\nPlease learn your basic grammar.", ">\n\nWhy do I have to watch Doja cat play smash or pass while reading this article?", ">\n\n…", ">\n\nABD by Mr Beast anyway", ">\n\nIn the immortal words of Nate Diaz, I'm not surprised motherfuckers", ">\n\nIs the production still going ahead?", ">\n\ni was scared that was about show.", ">\n\nYeah, filming in a gigantic airship hanger in the middle of the UK winter. That was never going to go down well.", ">\n\nNo wonder the acting was so good.", ">\n\nDon’t believe everything you read online. As someone that was there - I know the truth.", ">\n\nA Squid Game without at least 3 deaths is considered a dull affair.", ">\n\nSomething something Torment Nexus", ">\n\nIs no one else absolutely shocked that this was an actual reality show? I thought it was produced and created by actors, not people actually competing for money", ">\n\nDAE feel like that article just repeated the same info over and over?", ">\n\nI still haven't even watched the original series yet. Is it decent?", ">\n\nThis just makes me want to see it more lmao. Will it even make it to release", ">\n\nThis is going to make a great documentary in a couple years.", ">\n\nhaha hahahahahahahahaha how did people not see this coming?? I'm confused", ">\n\nTIL: squid game was actually a game show???\nWas it? I thought it was just a stupid drama I never watched.", ">\n\nNo, it was a drama with the premise that the main characters were playing games where if you failed, you were killed. If you survive, you win massive amounts of money. \nThey’re now making a reality show with a similar premise except contestants don’t die, they’re just eliminated from the reality show", ">\n\nIsn't that the whole point?", ">\n\nThey forgot the part where anyone could quit and leave at any time", ">\n\n\"Sounds just like a military deployment\", Tom Brady, allegedly", ">\n\nI was confused because I thought this was pertaining to the Korean version, Physical: 100 that’s airing now on Netflix. I think when you have 400+ contestants on any show it adds a layer of chaos. How does a production company manage this amount of people? Keeping them happy and out of the Press was obviously difficult for them. Other competition shows have been exposed as having inhumane conditions at times but because the cast is so small the production company can do damage control a lot easier and keep them quiet.", ">\n\nWasn't the whole point of the Squid Game red light green light that they only had a small amount of time to get to the end? Why in the world were they waiting for 30+ minutes on that alone?", ">\n\nIm sure these news will discourage everyone from consuming their products just like every time some company is shown to be doing something less than ideal against their workers or customers.", ">\n\nBoo hoo", ">\n\n‘The Conditions Were Absolutely Inhumane’ is something everyone in Bedford says, not just these contestants.", ">\n\nI'm not sure this is funny. I have permanent nerve damage in my feet from frostbite.", ">\n\nNot surprised, I’ve worked on a handful of Netfkix shows. They’re always an underpaid mess", ">\n\nI didn't know they're doing an actual reality show version and read through these comments for like 10 minutes wondering what the fuck was going on. \nLike, they're actors. This wasn't a real competition. Am I taking crazy pills?\nNope.. I'm just dumb.", ">\n\nbro just stick with mr beast squid game", ">\n\nWowzers, its almost like the entire aim of the show is that feelings of desire and the want for more are so strong that people in desparate situations will kill eachother just to live a normal life. 🤯😲", ">\n\nI’m shocked", ">\n\nSounds like a Dashcon Ball Pit incident, i.e. producers and directors signing on to run an event that they simply did not have the logistical experience to handle." ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set", ">\n\nThe crew will be dressed for the weather, whereas the cast will be dressed for the production.\n\"painful comedy\" indeed, bud.", ">\n\nDid…did they not watch the show during quarantine like we all did ?!", ">\n\nJapan should of filmed this show would of been better....", ">\n\nShould have\nWould have\nPlease learn your basic grammar.", ">\n\nWhy do I have to watch Doja cat play smash or pass while reading this article?", ">\n\n…", ">\n\nABD by Mr Beast anyway", ">\n\nIn the immortal words of Nate Diaz, I'm not surprised motherfuckers", ">\n\nIs the production still going ahead?", ">\n\ni was scared that was about show.", ">\n\nYeah, filming in a gigantic airship hanger in the middle of the UK winter. That was never going to go down well.", ">\n\nNo wonder the acting was so good.", ">\n\nDon’t believe everything you read online. As someone that was there - I know the truth.", ">\n\nA Squid Game without at least 3 deaths is considered a dull affair.", ">\n\nSomething something Torment Nexus", ">\n\nIs no one else absolutely shocked that this was an actual reality show? I thought it was produced and created by actors, not people actually competing for money", ">\n\nDAE feel like that article just repeated the same info over and over?", ">\n\nI still haven't even watched the original series yet. Is it decent?", ">\n\nThis just makes me want to see it more lmao. Will it even make it to release", ">\n\nThis is going to make a great documentary in a couple years.", ">\n\nhaha hahahahahahahahaha how did people not see this coming?? I'm confused", ">\n\nTIL: squid game was actually a game show???\nWas it? I thought it was just a stupid drama I never watched.", ">\n\nNo, it was a drama with the premise that the main characters were playing games where if you failed, you were killed. If you survive, you win massive amounts of money. \nThey’re now making a reality show with a similar premise except contestants don’t die, they’re just eliminated from the reality show", ">\n\nIsn't that the whole point?", ">\n\nThey forgot the part where anyone could quit and leave at any time", ">\n\n\"Sounds just like a military deployment\", Tom Brady, allegedly", ">\n\nI was confused because I thought this was pertaining to the Korean version, Physical: 100 that’s airing now on Netflix. I think when you have 400+ contestants on any show it adds a layer of chaos. How does a production company manage this amount of people? Keeping them happy and out of the Press was obviously difficult for them. Other competition shows have been exposed as having inhumane conditions at times but because the cast is so small the production company can do damage control a lot easier and keep them quiet.", ">\n\nWasn't the whole point of the Squid Game red light green light that they only had a small amount of time to get to the end? Why in the world were they waiting for 30+ minutes on that alone?", ">\n\nIm sure these news will discourage everyone from consuming their products just like every time some company is shown to be doing something less than ideal against their workers or customers.", ">\n\nBoo hoo", ">\n\n‘The Conditions Were Absolutely Inhumane’ is something everyone in Bedford says, not just these contestants.", ">\n\nI'm not sure this is funny. I have permanent nerve damage in my feet from frostbite.", ">\n\nNot surprised, I’ve worked on a handful of Netfkix shows. They’re always an underpaid mess", ">\n\nI didn't know they're doing an actual reality show version and read through these comments for like 10 minutes wondering what the fuck was going on. \nLike, they're actors. This wasn't a real competition. Am I taking crazy pills?\nNope.. I'm just dumb.", ">\n\nbro just stick with mr beast squid game", ">\n\nWowzers, its almost like the entire aim of the show is that feelings of desire and the want for more are so strong that people in desparate situations will kill eachother just to live a normal life. 🤯😲", ">\n\nI’m shocked", ">\n\nSounds like a Dashcon Ball Pit incident, i.e. producers and directors signing on to run an event that they simply did not have the logistical experience to handle.", ">\n\nThey had them in there method acting" ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set", ">\n\nThe crew will be dressed for the weather, whereas the cast will be dressed for the production.\n\"painful comedy\" indeed, bud.", ">\n\nDid…did they not watch the show during quarantine like we all did ?!", ">\n\nJapan should of filmed this show would of been better....", ">\n\nShould have\nWould have\nPlease learn your basic grammar.", ">\n\nWhy do I have to watch Doja cat play smash or pass while reading this article?", ">\n\n…", ">\n\nABD by Mr Beast anyway", ">\n\nIn the immortal words of Nate Diaz, I'm not surprised motherfuckers", ">\n\nIs the production still going ahead?", ">\n\ni was scared that was about show.", ">\n\nYeah, filming in a gigantic airship hanger in the middle of the UK winter. That was never going to go down well.", ">\n\nNo wonder the acting was so good.", ">\n\nDon’t believe everything you read online. As someone that was there - I know the truth.", ">\n\nA Squid Game without at least 3 deaths is considered a dull affair.", ">\n\nSomething something Torment Nexus", ">\n\nIs no one else absolutely shocked that this was an actual reality show? I thought it was produced and created by actors, not people actually competing for money", ">\n\nDAE feel like that article just repeated the same info over and over?", ">\n\nI still haven't even watched the original series yet. Is it decent?", ">\n\nThis just makes me want to see it more lmao. Will it even make it to release", ">\n\nThis is going to make a great documentary in a couple years.", ">\n\nhaha hahahahahahahahaha how did people not see this coming?? I'm confused", ">\n\nTIL: squid game was actually a game show???\nWas it? I thought it was just a stupid drama I never watched.", ">\n\nNo, it was a drama with the premise that the main characters were playing games where if you failed, you were killed. If you survive, you win massive amounts of money. \nThey’re now making a reality show with a similar premise except contestants don’t die, they’re just eliminated from the reality show", ">\n\nIsn't that the whole point?", ">\n\nThey forgot the part where anyone could quit and leave at any time", ">\n\n\"Sounds just like a military deployment\", Tom Brady, allegedly", ">\n\nI was confused because I thought this was pertaining to the Korean version, Physical: 100 that’s airing now on Netflix. I think when you have 400+ contestants on any show it adds a layer of chaos. How does a production company manage this amount of people? Keeping them happy and out of the Press was obviously difficult for them. Other competition shows have been exposed as having inhumane conditions at times but because the cast is so small the production company can do damage control a lot easier and keep them quiet.", ">\n\nWasn't the whole point of the Squid Game red light green light that they only had a small amount of time to get to the end? Why in the world were they waiting for 30+ minutes on that alone?", ">\n\nIm sure these news will discourage everyone from consuming their products just like every time some company is shown to be doing something less than ideal against their workers or customers.", ">\n\nBoo hoo", ">\n\n‘The Conditions Were Absolutely Inhumane’ is something everyone in Bedford says, not just these contestants.", ">\n\nI'm not sure this is funny. I have permanent nerve damage in my feet from frostbite.", ">\n\nNot surprised, I’ve worked on a handful of Netfkix shows. They’re always an underpaid mess", ">\n\nI didn't know they're doing an actual reality show version and read through these comments for like 10 minutes wondering what the fuck was going on. \nLike, they're actors. This wasn't a real competition. Am I taking crazy pills?\nNope.. I'm just dumb.", ">\n\nbro just stick with mr beast squid game", ">\n\nWowzers, its almost like the entire aim of the show is that feelings of desire and the want for more are so strong that people in desparate situations will kill eachother just to live a normal life. 🤯😲", ">\n\nI’m shocked", ">\n\nSounds like a Dashcon Ball Pit incident, i.e. producers and directors signing on to run an event that they simply did not have the logistical experience to handle.", ">\n\nThey had them in there method acting", ">\n\nAfter reading this, was it really actually that bad? Tv and Film shoots often take all day and much longer than first anticipated, and maybe check the weather before you go to one of these things. Also for shows where you have the potential to win money, you’re almost never paid hairs to appear (things like deal or no deal, wheel of fortune, etc)" ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set", ">\n\nThe crew will be dressed for the weather, whereas the cast will be dressed for the production.\n\"painful comedy\" indeed, bud.", ">\n\nDid…did they not watch the show during quarantine like we all did ?!", ">\n\nJapan should of filmed this show would of been better....", ">\n\nShould have\nWould have\nPlease learn your basic grammar.", ">\n\nWhy do I have to watch Doja cat play smash or pass while reading this article?", ">\n\n…", ">\n\nABD by Mr Beast anyway", ">\n\nIn the immortal words of Nate Diaz, I'm not surprised motherfuckers", ">\n\nIs the production still going ahead?", ">\n\ni was scared that was about show.", ">\n\nYeah, filming in a gigantic airship hanger in the middle of the UK winter. That was never going to go down well.", ">\n\nNo wonder the acting was so good.", ">\n\nDon’t believe everything you read online. As someone that was there - I know the truth.", ">\n\nA Squid Game without at least 3 deaths is considered a dull affair.", ">\n\nSomething something Torment Nexus", ">\n\nIs no one else absolutely shocked that this was an actual reality show? I thought it was produced and created by actors, not people actually competing for money", ">\n\nDAE feel like that article just repeated the same info over and over?", ">\n\nI still haven't even watched the original series yet. Is it decent?", ">\n\nThis just makes me want to see it more lmao. Will it even make it to release", ">\n\nThis is going to make a great documentary in a couple years.", ">\n\nhaha hahahahahahahahaha how did people not see this coming?? I'm confused", ">\n\nTIL: squid game was actually a game show???\nWas it? I thought it was just a stupid drama I never watched.", ">\n\nNo, it was a drama with the premise that the main characters were playing games where if you failed, you were killed. If you survive, you win massive amounts of money. \nThey’re now making a reality show with a similar premise except contestants don’t die, they’re just eliminated from the reality show", ">\n\nIsn't that the whole point?", ">\n\nThey forgot the part where anyone could quit and leave at any time", ">\n\n\"Sounds just like a military deployment\", Tom Brady, allegedly", ">\n\nI was confused because I thought this was pertaining to the Korean version, Physical: 100 that’s airing now on Netflix. I think when you have 400+ contestants on any show it adds a layer of chaos. How does a production company manage this amount of people? Keeping them happy and out of the Press was obviously difficult for them. Other competition shows have been exposed as having inhumane conditions at times but because the cast is so small the production company can do damage control a lot easier and keep them quiet.", ">\n\nWasn't the whole point of the Squid Game red light green light that they only had a small amount of time to get to the end? Why in the world were they waiting for 30+ minutes on that alone?", ">\n\nIm sure these news will discourage everyone from consuming their products just like every time some company is shown to be doing something less than ideal against their workers or customers.", ">\n\nBoo hoo", ">\n\n‘The Conditions Were Absolutely Inhumane’ is something everyone in Bedford says, not just these contestants.", ">\n\nI'm not sure this is funny. I have permanent nerve damage in my feet from frostbite.", ">\n\nNot surprised, I’ve worked on a handful of Netfkix shows. They’re always an underpaid mess", ">\n\nI didn't know they're doing an actual reality show version and read through these comments for like 10 minutes wondering what the fuck was going on. \nLike, they're actors. This wasn't a real competition. Am I taking crazy pills?\nNope.. I'm just dumb.", ">\n\nbro just stick with mr beast squid game", ">\n\nWowzers, its almost like the entire aim of the show is that feelings of desire and the want for more are so strong that people in desparate situations will kill eachother just to live a normal life. 🤯😲", ">\n\nI’m shocked", ">\n\nSounds like a Dashcon Ball Pit incident, i.e. producers and directors signing on to run an event that they simply did not have the logistical experience to handle.", ">\n\nThey had them in there method acting", ">\n\nAfter reading this, was it really actually that bad? Tv and Film shoots often take all day and much longer than first anticipated, and maybe check the weather before you go to one of these things. Also for shows where you have the potential to win money, you’re almost never paid hairs to appear (things like deal or no deal, wheel of fortune, etc)", ">\n\n\"Conditions were absolutely inhumane.\"\n\nya think?" ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set", ">\n\nThe crew will be dressed for the weather, whereas the cast will be dressed for the production.\n\"painful comedy\" indeed, bud.", ">\n\nDid…did they not watch the show during quarantine like we all did ?!", ">\n\nJapan should of filmed this show would of been better....", ">\n\nShould have\nWould have\nPlease learn your basic grammar.", ">\n\nWhy do I have to watch Doja cat play smash or pass while reading this article?", ">\n\n…", ">\n\nABD by Mr Beast anyway", ">\n\nIn the immortal words of Nate Diaz, I'm not surprised motherfuckers", ">\n\nIs the production still going ahead?", ">\n\ni was scared that was about show.", ">\n\nYeah, filming in a gigantic airship hanger in the middle of the UK winter. That was never going to go down well.", ">\n\nNo wonder the acting was so good.", ">\n\nDon’t believe everything you read online. As someone that was there - I know the truth.", ">\n\nA Squid Game without at least 3 deaths is considered a dull affair.", ">\n\nSomething something Torment Nexus", ">\n\nIs no one else absolutely shocked that this was an actual reality show? I thought it was produced and created by actors, not people actually competing for money", ">\n\nDAE feel like that article just repeated the same info over and over?", ">\n\nI still haven't even watched the original series yet. Is it decent?", ">\n\nThis just makes me want to see it more lmao. Will it even make it to release", ">\n\nThis is going to make a great documentary in a couple years.", ">\n\nhaha hahahahahahahahaha how did people not see this coming?? I'm confused", ">\n\nTIL: squid game was actually a game show???\nWas it? I thought it was just a stupid drama I never watched.", ">\n\nNo, it was a drama with the premise that the main characters were playing games where if you failed, you were killed. If you survive, you win massive amounts of money. \nThey’re now making a reality show with a similar premise except contestants don’t die, they’re just eliminated from the reality show", ">\n\nIsn't that the whole point?", ">\n\nThey forgot the part where anyone could quit and leave at any time", ">\n\n\"Sounds just like a military deployment\", Tom Brady, allegedly", ">\n\nI was confused because I thought this was pertaining to the Korean version, Physical: 100 that’s airing now on Netflix. I think when you have 400+ contestants on any show it adds a layer of chaos. How does a production company manage this amount of people? Keeping them happy and out of the Press was obviously difficult for them. Other competition shows have been exposed as having inhumane conditions at times but because the cast is so small the production company can do damage control a lot easier and keep them quiet.", ">\n\nWasn't the whole point of the Squid Game red light green light that they only had a small amount of time to get to the end? Why in the world were they waiting for 30+ minutes on that alone?", ">\n\nIm sure these news will discourage everyone from consuming their products just like every time some company is shown to be doing something less than ideal against their workers or customers.", ">\n\nBoo hoo", ">\n\n‘The Conditions Were Absolutely Inhumane’ is something everyone in Bedford says, not just these contestants.", ">\n\nI'm not sure this is funny. I have permanent nerve damage in my feet from frostbite.", ">\n\nNot surprised, I’ve worked on a handful of Netfkix shows. They’re always an underpaid mess", ">\n\nI didn't know they're doing an actual reality show version and read through these comments for like 10 minutes wondering what the fuck was going on. \nLike, they're actors. This wasn't a real competition. Am I taking crazy pills?\nNope.. I'm just dumb.", ">\n\nbro just stick with mr beast squid game", ">\n\nWowzers, its almost like the entire aim of the show is that feelings of desire and the want for more are so strong that people in desparate situations will kill eachother just to live a normal life. 🤯😲", ">\n\nI’m shocked", ">\n\nSounds like a Dashcon Ball Pit incident, i.e. producers and directors signing on to run an event that they simply did not have the logistical experience to handle.", ">\n\nThey had them in there method acting", ">\n\nAfter reading this, was it really actually that bad? Tv and Film shoots often take all day and much longer than first anticipated, and maybe check the weather before you go to one of these things. Also for shows where you have the potential to win money, you’re almost never paid hairs to appear (things like deal or no deal, wheel of fortune, etc)", ">\n\n\"Conditions were absolutely inhumane.\"\n\nya think?", ">\n\nThe real squid games is the friends we made along the way." ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set", ">\n\nThe crew will be dressed for the weather, whereas the cast will be dressed for the production.\n\"painful comedy\" indeed, bud.", ">\n\nDid…did they not watch the show during quarantine like we all did ?!", ">\n\nJapan should of filmed this show would of been better....", ">\n\nShould have\nWould have\nPlease learn your basic grammar.", ">\n\nWhy do I have to watch Doja cat play smash or pass while reading this article?", ">\n\n…", ">\n\nABD by Mr Beast anyway", ">\n\nIn the immortal words of Nate Diaz, I'm not surprised motherfuckers", ">\n\nIs the production still going ahead?", ">\n\ni was scared that was about show.", ">\n\nYeah, filming in a gigantic airship hanger in the middle of the UK winter. That was never going to go down well.", ">\n\nNo wonder the acting was so good.", ">\n\nDon’t believe everything you read online. As someone that was there - I know the truth.", ">\n\nA Squid Game without at least 3 deaths is considered a dull affair.", ">\n\nSomething something Torment Nexus", ">\n\nIs no one else absolutely shocked that this was an actual reality show? I thought it was produced and created by actors, not people actually competing for money", ">\n\nDAE feel like that article just repeated the same info over and over?", ">\n\nI still haven't even watched the original series yet. Is it decent?", ">\n\nThis just makes me want to see it more lmao. Will it even make it to release", ">\n\nThis is going to make a great documentary in a couple years.", ">\n\nhaha hahahahahahahahaha how did people not see this coming?? I'm confused", ">\n\nTIL: squid game was actually a game show???\nWas it? I thought it was just a stupid drama I never watched.", ">\n\nNo, it was a drama with the premise that the main characters were playing games where if you failed, you were killed. If you survive, you win massive amounts of money. \nThey’re now making a reality show with a similar premise except contestants don’t die, they’re just eliminated from the reality show", ">\n\nIsn't that the whole point?", ">\n\nThey forgot the part where anyone could quit and leave at any time", ">\n\n\"Sounds just like a military deployment\", Tom Brady, allegedly", ">\n\nI was confused because I thought this was pertaining to the Korean version, Physical: 100 that’s airing now on Netflix. I think when you have 400+ contestants on any show it adds a layer of chaos. How does a production company manage this amount of people? Keeping them happy and out of the Press was obviously difficult for them. Other competition shows have been exposed as having inhumane conditions at times but because the cast is so small the production company can do damage control a lot easier and keep them quiet.", ">\n\nWasn't the whole point of the Squid Game red light green light that they only had a small amount of time to get to the end? Why in the world were they waiting for 30+ minutes on that alone?", ">\n\nIm sure these news will discourage everyone from consuming their products just like every time some company is shown to be doing something less than ideal against their workers or customers.", ">\n\nBoo hoo", ">\n\n‘The Conditions Were Absolutely Inhumane’ is something everyone in Bedford says, not just these contestants.", ">\n\nI'm not sure this is funny. I have permanent nerve damage in my feet from frostbite.", ">\n\nNot surprised, I’ve worked on a handful of Netfkix shows. They’re always an underpaid mess", ">\n\nI didn't know they're doing an actual reality show version and read through these comments for like 10 minutes wondering what the fuck was going on. \nLike, they're actors. This wasn't a real competition. Am I taking crazy pills?\nNope.. I'm just dumb.", ">\n\nbro just stick with mr beast squid game", ">\n\nWowzers, its almost like the entire aim of the show is that feelings of desire and the want for more are so strong that people in desparate situations will kill eachother just to live a normal life. 🤯😲", ">\n\nI’m shocked", ">\n\nSounds like a Dashcon Ball Pit incident, i.e. producers and directors signing on to run an event that they simply did not have the logistical experience to handle.", ">\n\nThey had them in there method acting", ">\n\nAfter reading this, was it really actually that bad? Tv and Film shoots often take all day and much longer than first anticipated, and maybe check the weather before you go to one of these things. Also for shows where you have the potential to win money, you’re almost never paid hairs to appear (things like deal or no deal, wheel of fortune, etc)", ">\n\n\"Conditions were absolutely inhumane.\"\n\nya think?", ">\n\nThe real squid games is the friends we made along the way.", ">\n\nIt’s like no one ever heard about the Zimbardo prison experiments or something." ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set", ">\n\nThe crew will be dressed for the weather, whereas the cast will be dressed for the production.\n\"painful comedy\" indeed, bud.", ">\n\nDid…did they not watch the show during quarantine like we all did ?!", ">\n\nJapan should of filmed this show would of been better....", ">\n\nShould have\nWould have\nPlease learn your basic grammar.", ">\n\nWhy do I have to watch Doja cat play smash or pass while reading this article?", ">\n\n…", ">\n\nABD by Mr Beast anyway", ">\n\nIn the immortal words of Nate Diaz, I'm not surprised motherfuckers", ">\n\nIs the production still going ahead?", ">\n\ni was scared that was about show.", ">\n\nYeah, filming in a gigantic airship hanger in the middle of the UK winter. That was never going to go down well.", ">\n\nNo wonder the acting was so good.", ">\n\nDon’t believe everything you read online. As someone that was there - I know the truth.", ">\n\nA Squid Game without at least 3 deaths is considered a dull affair.", ">\n\nSomething something Torment Nexus", ">\n\nIs no one else absolutely shocked that this was an actual reality show? I thought it was produced and created by actors, not people actually competing for money", ">\n\nDAE feel like that article just repeated the same info over and over?", ">\n\nI still haven't even watched the original series yet. Is it decent?", ">\n\nThis just makes me want to see it more lmao. Will it even make it to release", ">\n\nThis is going to make a great documentary in a couple years.", ">\n\nhaha hahahahahahahahaha how did people not see this coming?? I'm confused", ">\n\nTIL: squid game was actually a game show???\nWas it? I thought it was just a stupid drama I never watched.", ">\n\nNo, it was a drama with the premise that the main characters were playing games where if you failed, you were killed. If you survive, you win massive amounts of money. \nThey’re now making a reality show with a similar premise except contestants don’t die, they’re just eliminated from the reality show", ">\n\nIsn't that the whole point?", ">\n\nThey forgot the part where anyone could quit and leave at any time", ">\n\n\"Sounds just like a military deployment\", Tom Brady, allegedly", ">\n\nI was confused because I thought this was pertaining to the Korean version, Physical: 100 that’s airing now on Netflix. I think when you have 400+ contestants on any show it adds a layer of chaos. How does a production company manage this amount of people? Keeping them happy and out of the Press was obviously difficult for them. Other competition shows have been exposed as having inhumane conditions at times but because the cast is so small the production company can do damage control a lot easier and keep them quiet.", ">\n\nWasn't the whole point of the Squid Game red light green light that they only had a small amount of time to get to the end? Why in the world were they waiting for 30+ minutes on that alone?", ">\n\nIm sure these news will discourage everyone from consuming their products just like every time some company is shown to be doing something less than ideal against their workers or customers.", ">\n\nBoo hoo", ">\n\n‘The Conditions Were Absolutely Inhumane’ is something everyone in Bedford says, not just these contestants.", ">\n\nI'm not sure this is funny. I have permanent nerve damage in my feet from frostbite.", ">\n\nNot surprised, I’ve worked on a handful of Netfkix shows. They’re always an underpaid mess", ">\n\nI didn't know they're doing an actual reality show version and read through these comments for like 10 minutes wondering what the fuck was going on. \nLike, they're actors. This wasn't a real competition. Am I taking crazy pills?\nNope.. I'm just dumb.", ">\n\nbro just stick with mr beast squid game", ">\n\nWowzers, its almost like the entire aim of the show is that feelings of desire and the want for more are so strong that people in desparate situations will kill eachother just to live a normal life. 🤯😲", ">\n\nI’m shocked", ">\n\nSounds like a Dashcon Ball Pit incident, i.e. producers and directors signing on to run an event that they simply did not have the logistical experience to handle.", ">\n\nThey had them in there method acting", ">\n\nAfter reading this, was it really actually that bad? Tv and Film shoots often take all day and much longer than first anticipated, and maybe check the weather before you go to one of these things. Also for shows where you have the potential to win money, you’re almost never paid hairs to appear (things like deal or no deal, wheel of fortune, etc)", ">\n\n\"Conditions were absolutely inhumane.\"\n\nya think?", ">\n\nThe real squid games is the friends we made along the way.", ">\n\nIt’s like no one ever heard about the Zimbardo prison experiments or something.", ">\n\nWell yes, isn't this the point? They're just trying to make it realistic" ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set", ">\n\nThe crew will be dressed for the weather, whereas the cast will be dressed for the production.\n\"painful comedy\" indeed, bud.", ">\n\nDid…did they not watch the show during quarantine like we all did ?!", ">\n\nJapan should of filmed this show would of been better....", ">\n\nShould have\nWould have\nPlease learn your basic grammar.", ">\n\nWhy do I have to watch Doja cat play smash or pass while reading this article?", ">\n\n…", ">\n\nABD by Mr Beast anyway", ">\n\nIn the immortal words of Nate Diaz, I'm not surprised motherfuckers", ">\n\nIs the production still going ahead?", ">\n\ni was scared that was about show.", ">\n\nYeah, filming in a gigantic airship hanger in the middle of the UK winter. That was never going to go down well.", ">\n\nNo wonder the acting was so good.", ">\n\nDon’t believe everything you read online. As someone that was there - I know the truth.", ">\n\nA Squid Game without at least 3 deaths is considered a dull affair.", ">\n\nSomething something Torment Nexus", ">\n\nIs no one else absolutely shocked that this was an actual reality show? I thought it was produced and created by actors, not people actually competing for money", ">\n\nDAE feel like that article just repeated the same info over and over?", ">\n\nI still haven't even watched the original series yet. Is it decent?", ">\n\nThis just makes me want to see it more lmao. Will it even make it to release", ">\n\nThis is going to make a great documentary in a couple years.", ">\n\nhaha hahahahahahahahaha how did people not see this coming?? I'm confused", ">\n\nTIL: squid game was actually a game show???\nWas it? I thought it was just a stupid drama I never watched.", ">\n\nNo, it was a drama with the premise that the main characters were playing games where if you failed, you were killed. If you survive, you win massive amounts of money. \nThey’re now making a reality show with a similar premise except contestants don’t die, they’re just eliminated from the reality show", ">\n\nIsn't that the whole point?", ">\n\nThey forgot the part where anyone could quit and leave at any time", ">\n\n\"Sounds just like a military deployment\", Tom Brady, allegedly", ">\n\nI was confused because I thought this was pertaining to the Korean version, Physical: 100 that’s airing now on Netflix. I think when you have 400+ contestants on any show it adds a layer of chaos. How does a production company manage this amount of people? Keeping them happy and out of the Press was obviously difficult for them. Other competition shows have been exposed as having inhumane conditions at times but because the cast is so small the production company can do damage control a lot easier and keep them quiet.", ">\n\nWasn't the whole point of the Squid Game red light green light that they only had a small amount of time to get to the end? Why in the world were they waiting for 30+ minutes on that alone?", ">\n\nIm sure these news will discourage everyone from consuming their products just like every time some company is shown to be doing something less than ideal against their workers or customers.", ">\n\nBoo hoo", ">\n\n‘The Conditions Were Absolutely Inhumane’ is something everyone in Bedford says, not just these contestants.", ">\n\nI'm not sure this is funny. I have permanent nerve damage in my feet from frostbite.", ">\n\nNot surprised, I’ve worked on a handful of Netfkix shows. They’re always an underpaid mess", ">\n\nI didn't know they're doing an actual reality show version and read through these comments for like 10 minutes wondering what the fuck was going on. \nLike, they're actors. This wasn't a real competition. Am I taking crazy pills?\nNope.. I'm just dumb.", ">\n\nbro just stick with mr beast squid game", ">\n\nWowzers, its almost like the entire aim of the show is that feelings of desire and the want for more are so strong that people in desparate situations will kill eachother just to live a normal life. 🤯😲", ">\n\nI’m shocked", ">\n\nSounds like a Dashcon Ball Pit incident, i.e. producers and directors signing on to run an event that they simply did not have the logistical experience to handle.", ">\n\nThey had them in there method acting", ">\n\nAfter reading this, was it really actually that bad? Tv and Film shoots often take all day and much longer than first anticipated, and maybe check the weather before you go to one of these things. Also for shows where you have the potential to win money, you’re almost never paid hairs to appear (things like deal or no deal, wheel of fortune, etc)", ">\n\n\"Conditions were absolutely inhumane.\"\n\nya think?", ">\n\nThe real squid games is the friends we made along the way.", ">\n\nIt’s like no one ever heard about the Zimbardo prison experiments or something.", ">\n\nWell yes, isn't this the point? They're just trying to make it realistic", ">\n\n\"They were told filming would take 2 hours but some had to wait up to 7 hours\" boo fuckin hoo." ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set", ">\n\nThe crew will be dressed for the weather, whereas the cast will be dressed for the production.\n\"painful comedy\" indeed, bud.", ">\n\nDid…did they not watch the show during quarantine like we all did ?!", ">\n\nJapan should of filmed this show would of been better....", ">\n\nShould have\nWould have\nPlease learn your basic grammar.", ">\n\nWhy do I have to watch Doja cat play smash or pass while reading this article?", ">\n\n…", ">\n\nABD by Mr Beast anyway", ">\n\nIn the immortal words of Nate Diaz, I'm not surprised motherfuckers", ">\n\nIs the production still going ahead?", ">\n\ni was scared that was about show.", ">\n\nYeah, filming in a gigantic airship hanger in the middle of the UK winter. That was never going to go down well.", ">\n\nNo wonder the acting was so good.", ">\n\nDon’t believe everything you read online. As someone that was there - I know the truth.", ">\n\nA Squid Game without at least 3 deaths is considered a dull affair.", ">\n\nSomething something Torment Nexus", ">\n\nIs no one else absolutely shocked that this was an actual reality show? I thought it was produced and created by actors, not people actually competing for money", ">\n\nDAE feel like that article just repeated the same info over and over?", ">\n\nI still haven't even watched the original series yet. Is it decent?", ">\n\nThis just makes me want to see it more lmao. Will it even make it to release", ">\n\nThis is going to make a great documentary in a couple years.", ">\n\nhaha hahahahahahahahaha how did people not see this coming?? I'm confused", ">\n\nTIL: squid game was actually a game show???\nWas it? I thought it was just a stupid drama I never watched.", ">\n\nNo, it was a drama with the premise that the main characters were playing games where if you failed, you were killed. If you survive, you win massive amounts of money. \nThey’re now making a reality show with a similar premise except contestants don’t die, they’re just eliminated from the reality show", ">\n\nIsn't that the whole point?", ">\n\nThey forgot the part where anyone could quit and leave at any time", ">\n\n\"Sounds just like a military deployment\", Tom Brady, allegedly", ">\n\nI was confused because I thought this was pertaining to the Korean version, Physical: 100 that’s airing now on Netflix. I think when you have 400+ contestants on any show it adds a layer of chaos. How does a production company manage this amount of people? Keeping them happy and out of the Press was obviously difficult for them. Other competition shows have been exposed as having inhumane conditions at times but because the cast is so small the production company can do damage control a lot easier and keep them quiet.", ">\n\nWasn't the whole point of the Squid Game red light green light that they only had a small amount of time to get to the end? Why in the world were they waiting for 30+ minutes on that alone?", ">\n\nIm sure these news will discourage everyone from consuming their products just like every time some company is shown to be doing something less than ideal against their workers or customers.", ">\n\nBoo hoo", ">\n\n‘The Conditions Were Absolutely Inhumane’ is something everyone in Bedford says, not just these contestants.", ">\n\nI'm not sure this is funny. I have permanent nerve damage in my feet from frostbite.", ">\n\nNot surprised, I’ve worked on a handful of Netfkix shows. They’re always an underpaid mess", ">\n\nI didn't know they're doing an actual reality show version and read through these comments for like 10 minutes wondering what the fuck was going on. \nLike, they're actors. This wasn't a real competition. Am I taking crazy pills?\nNope.. I'm just dumb.", ">\n\nbro just stick with mr beast squid game", ">\n\nWowzers, its almost like the entire aim of the show is that feelings of desire and the want for more are so strong that people in desparate situations will kill eachother just to live a normal life. 🤯😲", ">\n\nI’m shocked", ">\n\nSounds like a Dashcon Ball Pit incident, i.e. producers and directors signing on to run an event that they simply did not have the logistical experience to handle.", ">\n\nThey had them in there method acting", ">\n\nAfter reading this, was it really actually that bad? Tv and Film shoots often take all day and much longer than first anticipated, and maybe check the weather before you go to one of these things. Also for shows where you have the potential to win money, you’re almost never paid hairs to appear (things like deal or no deal, wheel of fortune, etc)", ">\n\n\"Conditions were absolutely inhumane.\"\n\nya think?", ">\n\nThe real squid games is the friends we made along the way.", ">\n\nIt’s like no one ever heard about the Zimbardo prison experiments or something.", ">\n\nWell yes, isn't this the point? They're just trying to make it realistic", ">\n\n\"They were told filming would take 2 hours but some had to wait up to 7 hours\" boo fuckin hoo.", ">\n\nI know somebody who was actually a part of this. \nUltimately, they're only allowed white food and water. They're awakened in the middle of the night. There are no clocks, no watches, no phones. Nothing but each other to pass the time.\nBut guess what? EVERYBODY signed an NDA for this show. And a contract which explicitly laid out what kind of conditions there would be.\nThey knew what they were signing up for." ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set", ">\n\nThe crew will be dressed for the weather, whereas the cast will be dressed for the production.\n\"painful comedy\" indeed, bud.", ">\n\nDid…did they not watch the show during quarantine like we all did ?!", ">\n\nJapan should of filmed this show would of been better....", ">\n\nShould have\nWould have\nPlease learn your basic grammar.", ">\n\nWhy do I have to watch Doja cat play smash or pass while reading this article?", ">\n\n…", ">\n\nABD by Mr Beast anyway", ">\n\nIn the immortal words of Nate Diaz, I'm not surprised motherfuckers", ">\n\nIs the production still going ahead?", ">\n\ni was scared that was about show.", ">\n\nYeah, filming in a gigantic airship hanger in the middle of the UK winter. That was never going to go down well.", ">\n\nNo wonder the acting was so good.", ">\n\nDon’t believe everything you read online. As someone that was there - I know the truth.", ">\n\nA Squid Game without at least 3 deaths is considered a dull affair.", ">\n\nSomething something Torment Nexus", ">\n\nIs no one else absolutely shocked that this was an actual reality show? I thought it was produced and created by actors, not people actually competing for money", ">\n\nDAE feel like that article just repeated the same info over and over?", ">\n\nI still haven't even watched the original series yet. Is it decent?", ">\n\nThis just makes me want to see it more lmao. Will it even make it to release", ">\n\nThis is going to make a great documentary in a couple years.", ">\n\nhaha hahahahahahahahaha how did people not see this coming?? I'm confused", ">\n\nTIL: squid game was actually a game show???\nWas it? I thought it was just a stupid drama I never watched.", ">\n\nNo, it was a drama with the premise that the main characters were playing games where if you failed, you were killed. If you survive, you win massive amounts of money. \nThey’re now making a reality show with a similar premise except contestants don’t die, they’re just eliminated from the reality show", ">\n\nIsn't that the whole point?", ">\n\nThey forgot the part where anyone could quit and leave at any time", ">\n\n\"Sounds just like a military deployment\", Tom Brady, allegedly", ">\n\nI was confused because I thought this was pertaining to the Korean version, Physical: 100 that’s airing now on Netflix. I think when you have 400+ contestants on any show it adds a layer of chaos. How does a production company manage this amount of people? Keeping them happy and out of the Press was obviously difficult for them. Other competition shows have been exposed as having inhumane conditions at times but because the cast is so small the production company can do damage control a lot easier and keep them quiet.", ">\n\nWasn't the whole point of the Squid Game red light green light that they only had a small amount of time to get to the end? Why in the world were they waiting for 30+ minutes on that alone?", ">\n\nIm sure these news will discourage everyone from consuming their products just like every time some company is shown to be doing something less than ideal against their workers or customers.", ">\n\nBoo hoo", ">\n\n‘The Conditions Were Absolutely Inhumane’ is something everyone in Bedford says, not just these contestants.", ">\n\nI'm not sure this is funny. I have permanent nerve damage in my feet from frostbite.", ">\n\nNot surprised, I’ve worked on a handful of Netfkix shows. They’re always an underpaid mess", ">\n\nI didn't know they're doing an actual reality show version and read through these comments for like 10 minutes wondering what the fuck was going on. \nLike, they're actors. This wasn't a real competition. Am I taking crazy pills?\nNope.. I'm just dumb.", ">\n\nbro just stick with mr beast squid game", ">\n\nWowzers, its almost like the entire aim of the show is that feelings of desire and the want for more are so strong that people in desparate situations will kill eachother just to live a normal life. 🤯😲", ">\n\nI’m shocked", ">\n\nSounds like a Dashcon Ball Pit incident, i.e. producers and directors signing on to run an event that they simply did not have the logistical experience to handle.", ">\n\nThey had them in there method acting", ">\n\nAfter reading this, was it really actually that bad? Tv and Film shoots often take all day and much longer than first anticipated, and maybe check the weather before you go to one of these things. Also for shows where you have the potential to win money, you’re almost never paid hairs to appear (things like deal or no deal, wheel of fortune, etc)", ">\n\n\"Conditions were absolutely inhumane.\"\n\nya think?", ">\n\nThe real squid games is the friends we made along the way.", ">\n\nIt’s like no one ever heard about the Zimbardo prison experiments or something.", ">\n\nWell yes, isn't this the point? They're just trying to make it realistic", ">\n\n\"They were told filming would take 2 hours but some had to wait up to 7 hours\" boo fuckin hoo.", ">\n\nI know somebody who was actually a part of this. \nUltimately, they're only allowed white food and water. They're awakened in the middle of the night. There are no clocks, no watches, no phones. Nothing but each other to pass the time.\nBut guess what? EVERYBODY signed an NDA for this show. And a contract which explicitly laid out what kind of conditions there would be.\nThey knew what they were signing up for.", ">\n\nSoo are they making squid game real?" ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set", ">\n\nThe crew will be dressed for the weather, whereas the cast will be dressed for the production.\n\"painful comedy\" indeed, bud.", ">\n\nDid…did they not watch the show during quarantine like we all did ?!", ">\n\nJapan should of filmed this show would of been better....", ">\n\nShould have\nWould have\nPlease learn your basic grammar.", ">\n\nWhy do I have to watch Doja cat play smash or pass while reading this article?", ">\n\n…", ">\n\nABD by Mr Beast anyway", ">\n\nIn the immortal words of Nate Diaz, I'm not surprised motherfuckers", ">\n\nIs the production still going ahead?", ">\n\ni was scared that was about show.", ">\n\nYeah, filming in a gigantic airship hanger in the middle of the UK winter. That was never going to go down well.", ">\n\nNo wonder the acting was so good.", ">\n\nDon’t believe everything you read online. As someone that was there - I know the truth.", ">\n\nA Squid Game without at least 3 deaths is considered a dull affair.", ">\n\nSomething something Torment Nexus", ">\n\nIs no one else absolutely shocked that this was an actual reality show? I thought it was produced and created by actors, not people actually competing for money", ">\n\nDAE feel like that article just repeated the same info over and over?", ">\n\nI still haven't even watched the original series yet. Is it decent?", ">\n\nThis just makes me want to see it more lmao. Will it even make it to release", ">\n\nThis is going to make a great documentary in a couple years.", ">\n\nhaha hahahahahahahahaha how did people not see this coming?? I'm confused", ">\n\nTIL: squid game was actually a game show???\nWas it? I thought it was just a stupid drama I never watched.", ">\n\nNo, it was a drama with the premise that the main characters were playing games where if you failed, you were killed. If you survive, you win massive amounts of money. \nThey’re now making a reality show with a similar premise except contestants don’t die, they’re just eliminated from the reality show", ">\n\nIsn't that the whole point?", ">\n\nThey forgot the part where anyone could quit and leave at any time", ">\n\n\"Sounds just like a military deployment\", Tom Brady, allegedly", ">\n\nI was confused because I thought this was pertaining to the Korean version, Physical: 100 that’s airing now on Netflix. I think when you have 400+ contestants on any show it adds a layer of chaos. How does a production company manage this amount of people? Keeping them happy and out of the Press was obviously difficult for them. Other competition shows have been exposed as having inhumane conditions at times but because the cast is so small the production company can do damage control a lot easier and keep them quiet.", ">\n\nWasn't the whole point of the Squid Game red light green light that they only had a small amount of time to get to the end? Why in the world were they waiting for 30+ minutes on that alone?", ">\n\nIm sure these news will discourage everyone from consuming their products just like every time some company is shown to be doing something less than ideal against their workers or customers.", ">\n\nBoo hoo", ">\n\n‘The Conditions Were Absolutely Inhumane’ is something everyone in Bedford says, not just these contestants.", ">\n\nI'm not sure this is funny. I have permanent nerve damage in my feet from frostbite.", ">\n\nNot surprised, I’ve worked on a handful of Netfkix shows. They’re always an underpaid mess", ">\n\nI didn't know they're doing an actual reality show version and read through these comments for like 10 minutes wondering what the fuck was going on. \nLike, they're actors. This wasn't a real competition. Am I taking crazy pills?\nNope.. I'm just dumb.", ">\n\nbro just stick with mr beast squid game", ">\n\nWowzers, its almost like the entire aim of the show is that feelings of desire and the want for more are so strong that people in desparate situations will kill eachother just to live a normal life. 🤯😲", ">\n\nI’m shocked", ">\n\nSounds like a Dashcon Ball Pit incident, i.e. producers and directors signing on to run an event that they simply did not have the logistical experience to handle.", ">\n\nThey had them in there method acting", ">\n\nAfter reading this, was it really actually that bad? Tv and Film shoots often take all day and much longer than first anticipated, and maybe check the weather before you go to one of these things. Also for shows where you have the potential to win money, you’re almost never paid hairs to appear (things like deal or no deal, wheel of fortune, etc)", ">\n\n\"Conditions were absolutely inhumane.\"\n\nya think?", ">\n\nThe real squid games is the friends we made along the way.", ">\n\nIt’s like no one ever heard about the Zimbardo prison experiments or something.", ">\n\nWell yes, isn't this the point? They're just trying to make it realistic", ">\n\n\"They were told filming would take 2 hours but some had to wait up to 7 hours\" boo fuckin hoo.", ">\n\nI know somebody who was actually a part of this. \nUltimately, they're only allowed white food and water. They're awakened in the middle of the night. There are no clocks, no watches, no phones. Nothing but each other to pass the time.\nBut guess what? EVERYBODY signed an NDA for this show. And a contract which explicitly laid out what kind of conditions there would be.\nThey knew what they were signing up for.", ">\n\nSoo are they making squid game real?", ">\n\n\n“I thought I was going to win it, because I’m so competitive,” says \nJohn, whose real name has been changed to protect his identity. “When it\n comes to these sorts of games, I’m good at them. They’re games of \nchance, luck and wit. I live for that sort of thing.”\n\nWit, OK, but how does one get good at luck and chance? \n\nBut on day one of production, John “died” playing the very first challenge.\n\nNevermind." ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set", ">\n\nThe crew will be dressed for the weather, whereas the cast will be dressed for the production.\n\"painful comedy\" indeed, bud.", ">\n\nDid…did they not watch the show during quarantine like we all did ?!", ">\n\nJapan should of filmed this show would of been better....", ">\n\nShould have\nWould have\nPlease learn your basic grammar.", ">\n\nWhy do I have to watch Doja cat play smash or pass while reading this article?", ">\n\n…", ">\n\nABD by Mr Beast anyway", ">\n\nIn the immortal words of Nate Diaz, I'm not surprised motherfuckers", ">\n\nIs the production still going ahead?", ">\n\ni was scared that was about show.", ">\n\nYeah, filming in a gigantic airship hanger in the middle of the UK winter. That was never going to go down well.", ">\n\nNo wonder the acting was so good.", ">\n\nDon’t believe everything you read online. As someone that was there - I know the truth.", ">\n\nA Squid Game without at least 3 deaths is considered a dull affair.", ">\n\nSomething something Torment Nexus", ">\n\nIs no one else absolutely shocked that this was an actual reality show? I thought it was produced and created by actors, not people actually competing for money", ">\n\nDAE feel like that article just repeated the same info over and over?", ">\n\nI still haven't even watched the original series yet. Is it decent?", ">\n\nThis just makes me want to see it more lmao. Will it even make it to release", ">\n\nThis is going to make a great documentary in a couple years.", ">\n\nhaha hahahahahahahahaha how did people not see this coming?? I'm confused", ">\n\nTIL: squid game was actually a game show???\nWas it? I thought it was just a stupid drama I never watched.", ">\n\nNo, it was a drama with the premise that the main characters were playing games where if you failed, you were killed. If you survive, you win massive amounts of money. \nThey’re now making a reality show with a similar premise except contestants don’t die, they’re just eliminated from the reality show", ">\n\nIsn't that the whole point?", ">\n\nThey forgot the part where anyone could quit and leave at any time", ">\n\n\"Sounds just like a military deployment\", Tom Brady, allegedly", ">\n\nI was confused because I thought this was pertaining to the Korean version, Physical: 100 that’s airing now on Netflix. I think when you have 400+ contestants on any show it adds a layer of chaos. How does a production company manage this amount of people? Keeping them happy and out of the Press was obviously difficult for them. Other competition shows have been exposed as having inhumane conditions at times but because the cast is so small the production company can do damage control a lot easier and keep them quiet.", ">\n\nWasn't the whole point of the Squid Game red light green light that they only had a small amount of time to get to the end? Why in the world were they waiting for 30+ minutes on that alone?", ">\n\nIm sure these news will discourage everyone from consuming their products just like every time some company is shown to be doing something less than ideal against their workers or customers.", ">\n\nBoo hoo", ">\n\n‘The Conditions Were Absolutely Inhumane’ is something everyone in Bedford says, not just these contestants.", ">\n\nI'm not sure this is funny. I have permanent nerve damage in my feet from frostbite.", ">\n\nNot surprised, I’ve worked on a handful of Netfkix shows. They’re always an underpaid mess", ">\n\nI didn't know they're doing an actual reality show version and read through these comments for like 10 minutes wondering what the fuck was going on. \nLike, they're actors. This wasn't a real competition. Am I taking crazy pills?\nNope.. I'm just dumb.", ">\n\nbro just stick with mr beast squid game", ">\n\nWowzers, its almost like the entire aim of the show is that feelings of desire and the want for more are so strong that people in desparate situations will kill eachother just to live a normal life. 🤯😲", ">\n\nI’m shocked", ">\n\nSounds like a Dashcon Ball Pit incident, i.e. producers and directors signing on to run an event that they simply did not have the logistical experience to handle.", ">\n\nThey had them in there method acting", ">\n\nAfter reading this, was it really actually that bad? Tv and Film shoots often take all day and much longer than first anticipated, and maybe check the weather before you go to one of these things. Also for shows where you have the potential to win money, you’re almost never paid hairs to appear (things like deal or no deal, wheel of fortune, etc)", ">\n\n\"Conditions were absolutely inhumane.\"\n\nya think?", ">\n\nThe real squid games is the friends we made along the way.", ">\n\nIt’s like no one ever heard about the Zimbardo prison experiments or something.", ">\n\nWell yes, isn't this the point? They're just trying to make it realistic", ">\n\n\"They were told filming would take 2 hours but some had to wait up to 7 hours\" boo fuckin hoo.", ">\n\nI know somebody who was actually a part of this. \nUltimately, they're only allowed white food and water. They're awakened in the middle of the night. There are no clocks, no watches, no phones. Nothing but each other to pass the time.\nBut guess what? EVERYBODY signed an NDA for this show. And a contract which explicitly laid out what kind of conditions there would be.\nThey knew what they were signing up for.", ">\n\nSoo are they making squid game real?", ">\n\n\n“I thought I was going to win it, because I’m so competitive,” says \nJohn, whose real name has been changed to protect his identity. “When it\n comes to these sorts of games, I’m good at them. They’re games of \nchance, luck and wit. I live for that sort of thing.”\n\nWit, OK, but how does one get good at luck and chance? \n\nBut on day one of production, John “died” playing the very first challenge.\n\nNevermind.", ">\n\nWe pay* a subscription so they can do this instead of renewing good shows for a second season. \n^(*borrow a password)" ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set", ">\n\nThe crew will be dressed for the weather, whereas the cast will be dressed for the production.\n\"painful comedy\" indeed, bud.", ">\n\nDid…did they not watch the show during quarantine like we all did ?!", ">\n\nJapan should of filmed this show would of been better....", ">\n\nShould have\nWould have\nPlease learn your basic grammar.", ">\n\nWhy do I have to watch Doja cat play smash or pass while reading this article?", ">\n\n…", ">\n\nABD by Mr Beast anyway", ">\n\nIn the immortal words of Nate Diaz, I'm not surprised motherfuckers", ">\n\nIs the production still going ahead?", ">\n\ni was scared that was about show.", ">\n\nYeah, filming in a gigantic airship hanger in the middle of the UK winter. That was never going to go down well.", ">\n\nNo wonder the acting was so good.", ">\n\nDon’t believe everything you read online. As someone that was there - I know the truth.", ">\n\nA Squid Game without at least 3 deaths is considered a dull affair.", ">\n\nSomething something Torment Nexus", ">\n\nIs no one else absolutely shocked that this was an actual reality show? I thought it was produced and created by actors, not people actually competing for money", ">\n\nDAE feel like that article just repeated the same info over and over?", ">\n\nI still haven't even watched the original series yet. Is it decent?", ">\n\nThis just makes me want to see it more lmao. Will it even make it to release", ">\n\nThis is going to make a great documentary in a couple years.", ">\n\nhaha hahahahahahahahaha how did people not see this coming?? I'm confused", ">\n\nTIL: squid game was actually a game show???\nWas it? I thought it was just a stupid drama I never watched.", ">\n\nNo, it was a drama with the premise that the main characters were playing games where if you failed, you were killed. If you survive, you win massive amounts of money. \nThey’re now making a reality show with a similar premise except contestants don’t die, they’re just eliminated from the reality show", ">\n\nIsn't that the whole point?", ">\n\nThey forgot the part where anyone could quit and leave at any time", ">\n\n\"Sounds just like a military deployment\", Tom Brady, allegedly", ">\n\nI was confused because I thought this was pertaining to the Korean version, Physical: 100 that’s airing now on Netflix. I think when you have 400+ contestants on any show it adds a layer of chaos. How does a production company manage this amount of people? Keeping them happy and out of the Press was obviously difficult for them. Other competition shows have been exposed as having inhumane conditions at times but because the cast is so small the production company can do damage control a lot easier and keep them quiet.", ">\n\nWasn't the whole point of the Squid Game red light green light that they only had a small amount of time to get to the end? Why in the world were they waiting for 30+ minutes on that alone?", ">\n\nIm sure these news will discourage everyone from consuming their products just like every time some company is shown to be doing something less than ideal against their workers or customers.", ">\n\nBoo hoo", ">\n\n‘The Conditions Were Absolutely Inhumane’ is something everyone in Bedford says, not just these contestants.", ">\n\nI'm not sure this is funny. I have permanent nerve damage in my feet from frostbite.", ">\n\nNot surprised, I’ve worked on a handful of Netfkix shows. They’re always an underpaid mess", ">\n\nI didn't know they're doing an actual reality show version and read through these comments for like 10 minutes wondering what the fuck was going on. \nLike, they're actors. This wasn't a real competition. Am I taking crazy pills?\nNope.. I'm just dumb.", ">\n\nbro just stick with mr beast squid game", ">\n\nWowzers, its almost like the entire aim of the show is that feelings of desire and the want for more are so strong that people in desparate situations will kill eachother just to live a normal life. 🤯😲", ">\n\nI’m shocked", ">\n\nSounds like a Dashcon Ball Pit incident, i.e. producers and directors signing on to run an event that they simply did not have the logistical experience to handle.", ">\n\nThey had them in there method acting", ">\n\nAfter reading this, was it really actually that bad? Tv and Film shoots often take all day and much longer than first anticipated, and maybe check the weather before you go to one of these things. Also for shows where you have the potential to win money, you’re almost never paid hairs to appear (things like deal or no deal, wheel of fortune, etc)", ">\n\n\"Conditions were absolutely inhumane.\"\n\nya think?", ">\n\nThe real squid games is the friends we made along the way.", ">\n\nIt’s like no one ever heard about the Zimbardo prison experiments or something.", ">\n\nWell yes, isn't this the point? They're just trying to make it realistic", ">\n\n\"They were told filming would take 2 hours but some had to wait up to 7 hours\" boo fuckin hoo.", ">\n\nI know somebody who was actually a part of this. \nUltimately, they're only allowed white food and water. They're awakened in the middle of the night. There are no clocks, no watches, no phones. Nothing but each other to pass the time.\nBut guess what? EVERYBODY signed an NDA for this show. And a contract which explicitly laid out what kind of conditions there would be.\nThey knew what they were signing up for.", ">\n\nSoo are they making squid game real?", ">\n\n\n“I thought I was going to win it, because I’m so competitive,” says \nJohn, whose real name has been changed to protect his identity. “When it\n comes to these sorts of games, I’m good at them. They’re games of \nchance, luck and wit. I live for that sort of thing.”\n\nWit, OK, but how does one get good at luck and chance? \n\nBut on day one of production, John “died” playing the very first challenge.\n\nNevermind.", ">\n\nWe pay* a subscription so they can do this instead of renewing good shows for a second season. \n^(*borrow a password)", ">\n\nSo they were in a competition for MILLIONS of dollars and they were upset because they were cold for a few hours?\nWhat a bunch of entitled whiney fucking children. JFC" ]

[ "Life imitating art imitating life", ">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.", ">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?", ">\n\nI like Community", ">\n\nOh, that is nice.", ">\n\nPop Pop!", ">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.", ">\n\nBecause of the implication", ">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?", ">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...", ">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show", ">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget", ">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...", ">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜", ">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else", ">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time", ">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...", ">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?", ">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.", ">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.", ">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions", ">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.", ">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.", ">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime", ">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia", ">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.", ">\n\nDid they not watch the show?", ">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?", ">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"", ">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.", ">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.", ">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening", ">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.", ">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.", ">\n\nRead the comment again.", ">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed", ">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!", ">\n\nBut did you die?", ">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!", ">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.", ">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.", ">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.", ">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.", ">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.", ">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.", ">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...", ">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.", ">\n\nYea, that's the problem.", ">\n\nMethod directing", ">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?", ">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?", ">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point", ">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.", ">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.", ">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.", ">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.", ">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.", ">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.", ">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.", ">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.", ">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story", ">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.", ">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.", ">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.", ">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.", ">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.", ">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.", ">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.", ">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER", ">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.", ">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.", ">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony", ">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).", ">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”", ">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!", ">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition", ">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.", ">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.", ">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better", ">\n\nMethod producing", ">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…", ">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.", ">\n\nI almost went on this show lol", ">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!", ">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it", ">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?", ">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.", ">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".", ">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.", ">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.", ">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.", ">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?", ">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.", ">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.", ">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind", ">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.", ">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?", ">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.", ">\n\nITT: victim blaming", ">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.", ">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim", ">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.", ">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life", ">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.", ">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"", ">\n\nJust like hamster squid game", ">\n\nIt's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct. \nPlease tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait!", ">\n\nwho the fuck thought this would be a good idea", ">\n\nWhat I hate about nearly all reality TV shows is the amount of repetition and false tension building. \nThey stretch 10-15 minutes of footage into an hour with ads. It’s awful and reminds me of the black mirror episode where they had to watch ads to make money/credits for time off work. :/", ">\n\nSigh, why must they make EVERYTHING a reality show.....", ">\n\nThe Torment Nexus in action.", ">\n\nGot two paragraphs in and realized I couldn't possibly care.", ">\n\nTo be fair, try to find a 6 star hotel with 456 rooms.", ">\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes and then purposefully move to be eliminated once it's over? it wasn't as short or fun as the show because you watched the finished product, but the filming experience was likely similar", ">\n\n\nsounds a bit exaggerated, why not just endure the 10 minutes \n\nI mean, it doesn't even take 10 minutes to read an article, but that was clearly too much for you. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯", ">\n\nin the article it does say it was 10-15 minutes and then more for each round", ">\n\nI assure you that the filming experience of the show did not consist of 26 minutes of holding a still pose in anywhere near freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nDid they never watch the fucking show? All the contestants die but one. \nImagine being such a narcissist that you think your gonna beat out hundreds of people in a bunch of horror games in horrible conditions.\nLeopards are having a feast of faces", ">\n\nMaybe people assumed that Netflix would not, in fact, kill the losers of a reality show, because that would be fucking insane?\nIt’s absolutely wild how many people in this thread are blaming the contestants and not Netflix for putting on this horror show in the first place", ">\n\nI can believe this reality show is real but I really fucking don’t want to. Like what the actual fuuuuuck???????", ">\n\nI bet the conditions on the set of “Rust” were worse…", ">\n\nAnd to think that Mr. Beast did that in a few weeks without any major controversies...", ">\n\nHe spent like 5M on a 20 minute videi, they probably didn't want to spend that mich.", ">\n\nIt wouldnt be a reality show otherwise", ">\n\nSounds like a success to me", ">\n\nWhere I live, the high today was -12C. That's what I was imagining when they were discussing hand warmers, etc. I have to admit that I find the idea of hand warmers in 10C weather sort-of funny.", ">\n\nIt got to 8 Celsius here today and I walked outside feeling like it's t-shirt weather. People get used to certain weather but yeah these people sound absolutely soft to me. Also if they were smart they would have thrown a hand warmer into their private areas.", ">\n\nSorry big man, read the article, the hand warmers were taken off them.", ">\n\nThey checking taints?", ">\n\nNo but if they gave everyone a hand warmer they know you haven't given it back. And at that time people clearly didn't realize how long netflix would have them standing still in freezing temperatures.", ">\n\nOr you say you never got any and or you already gave them back.", ">\n\nThat's exactly the thing I never understood about peoples obsession with recreating squidgame. It was a fucking horror story. You want to be gunned down by a 40mm for failing a punishment game? That's your fantasy?", ">\n\nI would have expected this and not signed up. Peak human stupidity here.", ">\n\nI would imagine the next reality TV show will be recreating the selection process for the gas chambers at Auschwitz... the winner is the one that does not get gassed [for real.. hence being a reality show!!] ... and the ones that did... well... they lost! I am sure the show runner will pitch the show on \"the human drama\"....", ">\n\n4+ million dollars top prize and these motherfuckers are crying and complaining about being cold?!", ">\n\n\nand then when they failed they did just as everyone does these days, \n\nLol, the sheer projection from this man, as though failure is a new concept.", ">\n\nFuck did they expect, didn’t they watch the show.", ">\n\nI feel like this is exactly as it was supposed to be?", ">\n\nEveryone is taking this too literal. Of course they are going to say it was abysmal on set, that’s how they are going to get people to watch it. I didn’t give a fuck about it until now", ">\n\nMethod Acting?", ">\n\nLol sounds like the cast had to deal with conditions that crew have to go through every time theyre on set", ">\n\nThe crew will be dressed for the weather, whereas the cast will be dressed for the production.\n\"painful comedy\" indeed, bud.", ">\n\nDid…did they not watch the show during quarantine like we all did ?!", ">\n\nJapan should of filmed this show would of been better....", ">\n\nShould have\nWould have\nPlease learn your basic grammar.", ">\n\nWhy do I have to watch Doja cat play smash or pass while reading this article?", ">\n\n…", ">\n\nABD by Mr Beast anyway", ">\n\nIn the immortal words of Nate Diaz, I'm not surprised motherfuckers", ">\n\nIs the production still going ahead?", ">\n\ni was scared that was about show.", ">\n\nYeah, filming in a gigantic airship hanger in the middle of the UK winter. That was never going to go down well.", ">\n\nNo wonder the acting was so good.", ">\n\nDon’t believe everything you read online. As someone that was there - I know the truth.", ">\n\nA Squid Game without at least 3 deaths is considered a dull affair.", ">\n\nSomething something Torment Nexus", ">\n\nIs no one else absolutely shocked that this was an actual reality show? I thought it was produced and created by actors, not people actually competing for money", ">\n\nDAE feel like that article just repeated the same info over and over?", ">\n\nI still haven't even watched the original series yet. Is it decent?", ">\n\nThis just makes me want to see it more lmao. Will it even make it to release", ">\n\nThis is going to make a great documentary in a couple years.", ">\n\nhaha hahahahahahahahaha how did people not see this coming?? I'm confused", ">\n\nTIL: squid game was actually a game show???\nWas it? I thought it was just a stupid drama I never watched.", ">\n\nNo, it was a drama with the premise that the main characters were playing games where if you failed, you were killed. If you survive, you win massive amounts of money. \nThey’re now making a reality show with a similar premise except contestants don’t die, they’re just eliminated from the reality show", ">\n\nIsn't that the whole point?", ">\n\nThey forgot the part where anyone could quit and leave at any time", ">\n\n\"Sounds just like a military deployment\", Tom Brady, allegedly", ">\n\nI was confused because I thought this was pertaining to the Korean version, Physical: 100 that’s airing now on Netflix. I think when you have 400+ contestants on any show it adds a layer of chaos. How does a production company manage this amount of people? Keeping them happy and out of the Press was obviously difficult for them. Other competition shows have been exposed as having inhumane conditions at times but because the cast is so small the production company can do damage control a lot easier and keep them quiet.", ">\n\nWasn't the whole point of the Squid Game red light green light that they only had a small amount of time to get to the end? Why in the world were they waiting for 30+ minutes on that alone?", ">\n\nIm sure these news will discourage everyone from consuming their products just like every time some company is shown to be doing something less than ideal against their workers or customers.", ">\n\nBoo hoo", ">\n\n‘The Conditions Were Absolutely Inhumane’ is something everyone in Bedford says, not just these contestants.", ">\n\nI'm not sure this is funny. I have permanent nerve damage in my feet from frostbite.", ">\n\nNot surprised, I’ve worked on a handful of Netfkix shows. They’re always an underpaid mess", ">\n\nI didn't know they're doing an actual reality show version and read through these comments for like 10 minutes wondering what the fuck was going on. \nLike, they're actors. This wasn't a real competition. Am I taking crazy pills?\nNope.. I'm just dumb.", ">\n\nbro just stick with mr beast squid game", ">\n\nWowzers, its almost like the entire aim of the show is that feelings of desire and the want for more are so strong that people in desparate situations will kill eachother just to live a normal life. 🤯😲", ">\n\nI’m shocked", ">\n\nSounds like a Dashcon Ball Pit incident, i.e. producers and directors signing on to run an event that they simply did not have the logistical experience to handle.", ">\n\nThey had them in there method acting", ">\n\nAfter reading this, was it really actually that bad? Tv and Film shoots often take all day and much longer than first anticipated, and maybe check the weather before you go to one of these things. Also for shows where you have the potential to win money, you’re almost never paid hairs to appear (things like deal or no deal, wheel of fortune, etc)", ">\n\n\"Conditions were absolutely inhumane.\"\n\nya think?", ">\n\nThe real squid games is the friends we made along the way.", ">\n\nIt’s like no one ever heard about the Zimbardo prison experiments or something.", ">\n\nWell yes, isn't this the point? They're just trying to make it realistic", ">\n\n\"They were told filming would take 2 hours but some had to wait up to 7 hours\" boo fuckin hoo.", ">\n\nI know somebody who was actually a part of this. \nUltimately, they're only allowed white food and water. They're awakened in the middle of the night. There are no clocks, no watches, no phones. Nothing but each other to pass the time.\nBut guess what? EVERYBODY signed an NDA for this show. And a contract which explicitly laid out what kind of conditions there would be.\nThey knew what they were signing up for.", ">\n\nSoo are they making squid game real?", ">\n\n\n“I thought I was going to win it, because I’m so competitive,” says \nJohn, whose real name has been changed to protect his identity. “When it\n comes to these sorts of games, I’m good at them. They’re games of \nchance, luck and wit. I live for that sort of thing.”\n\nWit, OK, but how does one get good at luck and chance? \n\nBut on day one of production, John “died” playing the very first challenge.\n\nNevermind.", ">\n\nWe pay* a subscription so they can do this instead of renewing good shows for a second season. \n^(*borrow a password)", ">\n\nSo they were in a competition for MILLIONS of dollars and they were upset because they were cold for a few hours?\nWhat a bunch of entitled whiney fucking children. JFC", ">\n\nAnd here I thought they were all unpaid interns for the day." ]

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[ "In the leaked audio Santos can be heard saying: \"I've made bad judgment calls, and I'm reaping the consequences of those bad judgment calls.\"\n\nLike shit he is. He still gets to sit in Congress. \nHe has suffered near zero consequences, barely even minimal. He had his slap on the wrist and once things die down he'll get right back to his committee assignments." ]

[ "In the leaked audio Santos can be heard saying: \"I've made bad judgment calls, and I'm reaping the consequences of those bad judgment calls.\"\n\nLike shit he is. He still gets to sit in Congress. \nHe has suffered near zero consequences, barely even minimal. He had his slap on the wrist and once things die down he'll get right back to his committee assignments.", ">\n\nI’m mostly just upset he has such fantastic healthcare." ]

[ "In the leaked audio Santos can be heard saying: \"I've made bad judgment calls, and I'm reaping the consequences of those bad judgment calls.\"\n\nLike shit he is. He still gets to sit in Congress. \nHe has suffered near zero consequences, barely even minimal. He had his slap on the wrist and once things die down he'll get right back to his committee assignments.", ">\n\nI’m mostly just upset he has such fantastic healthcare.", ">\n\nWe all should." ]

[ "In the leaked audio Santos can be heard saying: \"I've made bad judgment calls, and I'm reaping the consequences of those bad judgment calls.\"\n\nLike shit he is. He still gets to sit in Congress. \nHe has suffered near zero consequences, barely even minimal. He had his slap on the wrist and once things die down he'll get right back to his committee assignments.", ">\n\nI’m mostly just upset he has such fantastic healthcare.", ">\n\nWe all should.", ">\n\nWow, we never knew this (note the sarcasm)" ]

[ "In the leaked audio Santos can be heard saying: \"I've made bad judgment calls, and I'm reaping the consequences of those bad judgment calls.\"\n\nLike shit he is. He still gets to sit in Congress. \nHe has suffered near zero consequences, barely even minimal. He had his slap on the wrist and once things die down he'll get right back to his committee assignments.", ">\n\nI’m mostly just upset he has such fantastic healthcare.", ">\n\nWe all should.", ">\n\nWow, we never knew this (note the sarcasm)", ">\n\nI think what's notable here is he's actually telling the truth about something for once (that he's a liar)." ]

[ "In the leaked audio Santos can be heard saying: \"I've made bad judgment calls, and I'm reaping the consequences of those bad judgment calls.\"\n\nLike shit he is. He still gets to sit in Congress. \nHe has suffered near zero consequences, barely even minimal. He had his slap on the wrist and once things die down he'll get right back to his committee assignments.", ">\n\nI’m mostly just upset he has such fantastic healthcare.", ">\n\nWe all should.", ">\n\nWow, we never knew this (note the sarcasm)", ">\n\nI think what's notable here is he's actually telling the truth about something for once (that he's a liar).", ">\n\nIt’s because even this is a lie. A lot of people were in on his various scams and frauds. He lied to a lot of people, but not everyone." ]

[ "In the leaked audio Santos can be heard saying: \"I've made bad judgment calls, and I'm reaping the consequences of those bad judgment calls.\"\n\nLike shit he is. He still gets to sit in Congress. \nHe has suffered near zero consequences, barely even minimal. He had his slap on the wrist and once things die down he'll get right back to his committee assignments.", ">\n\nI’m mostly just upset he has such fantastic healthcare.", ">\n\nWe all should.", ">\n\nWow, we never knew this (note the sarcasm)", ">\n\nI think what's notable here is he's actually telling the truth about something for once (that he's a liar).", ">\n\nIt’s because even this is a lie. A lot of people were in on his various scams and frauds. He lied to a lot of people, but not everyone.", ">\n\nGeorge Santos has an identical twin who always tells the truth." ]

[ "In the leaked audio Santos can be heard saying: \"I've made bad judgment calls, and I'm reaping the consequences of those bad judgment calls.\"\n\nLike shit he is. He still gets to sit in Congress. \nHe has suffered near zero consequences, barely even minimal. He had his slap on the wrist and once things die down he'll get right back to his committee assignments.", ">\n\nI’m mostly just upset he has such fantastic healthcare.", ">\n\nWe all should.", ">\n\nWow, we never knew this (note the sarcasm)", ">\n\nI think what's notable here is he's actually telling the truth about something for once (that he's a liar).", ">\n\nIt’s because even this is a lie. A lot of people were in on his various scams and frauds. He lied to a lot of people, but not everyone.", ">\n\nGeorge Santos has an identical twin who always tells the truth.", ">\n\nTomax and Xamot" ]

[ "In the leaked audio Santos can be heard saying: \"I've made bad judgment calls, and I'm reaping the consequences of those bad judgment calls.\"\n\nLike shit he is. He still gets to sit in Congress. \nHe has suffered near zero consequences, barely even minimal. He had his slap on the wrist and once things die down he'll get right back to his committee assignments.", ">\n\nI’m mostly just upset he has such fantastic healthcare.", ">\n\nWe all should.", ">\n\nWow, we never knew this (note the sarcasm)", ">\n\nI think what's notable here is he's actually telling the truth about something for once (that he's a liar).", ">\n\nIt’s because even this is a lie. A lot of people were in on his various scams and frauds. He lied to a lot of people, but not everyone.", ">\n\nGeorge Santos has an identical twin who always tells the truth.", ">\n\nTomax and Xamot", ">\n\nThis guy Joes what he's talking about." ]

[ "In the leaked audio Santos can be heard saying: \"I've made bad judgment calls, and I'm reaping the consequences of those bad judgment calls.\"\n\nLike shit he is. He still gets to sit in Congress. \nHe has suffered near zero consequences, barely even minimal. He had his slap on the wrist and once things die down he'll get right back to his committee assignments.", ">\n\nI’m mostly just upset he has such fantastic healthcare.", ">\n\nWe all should.", ">\n\nWow, we never knew this (note the sarcasm)", ">\n\nI think what's notable here is he's actually telling the truth about something for once (that he's a liar).", ">\n\nIt’s because even this is a lie. A lot of people were in on his various scams and frauds. He lied to a lot of people, but not everyone.", ">\n\nGeorge Santos has an identical twin who always tells the truth.", ">\n\nTomax and Xamot", ">\n\nThis guy Joes what he's talking about.", ">\n\nAnd Joe-ing is half the battle" ]

[ "In the leaked audio Santos can be heard saying: \"I've made bad judgment calls, and I'm reaping the consequences of those bad judgment calls.\"\n\nLike shit he is. He still gets to sit in Congress. \nHe has suffered near zero consequences, barely even minimal. He had his slap on the wrist and once things die down he'll get right back to his committee assignments.", ">\n\nI’m mostly just upset he has such fantastic healthcare.", ">\n\nWe all should.", ">\n\nWow, we never knew this (note the sarcasm)", ">\n\nI think what's notable here is he's actually telling the truth about something for once (that he's a liar).", ">\n\nIt’s because even this is a lie. A lot of people were in on his various scams and frauds. He lied to a lot of people, but not everyone.", ">\n\nGeorge Santos has an identical twin who always tells the truth.", ">\n\nTomax and Xamot", ">\n\nThis guy Joes what he's talking about.", ">\n\nAnd Joe-ing is half the battle", ">\n\nG.I. Know?" ]

[ "In the leaked audio Santos can be heard saying: \"I've made bad judgment calls, and I'm reaping the consequences of those bad judgment calls.\"\n\nLike shit he is. He still gets to sit in Congress. \nHe has suffered near zero consequences, barely even minimal. He had his slap on the wrist and once things die down he'll get right back to his committee assignments.", ">\n\nI’m mostly just upset he has such fantastic healthcare.", ">\n\nWe all should.", ">\n\nWow, we never knew this (note the sarcasm)", ">\n\nI think what's notable here is he's actually telling the truth about something for once (that he's a liar).", ">\n\nIt’s because even this is a lie. A lot of people were in on his various scams and frauds. He lied to a lot of people, but not everyone.", ">\n\nGeorge Santos has an identical twin who always tells the truth.", ">\n\nTomax and Xamot", ">\n\nThis guy Joes what he's talking about.", ">\n\nAnd Joe-ing is half the battle", ">\n\nG.I. Know?", ">\n\n🎶A Real American He-Joe!🎶" ]

[ "In the leaked audio Santos can be heard saying: \"I've made bad judgment calls, and I'm reaping the consequences of those bad judgment calls.\"\n\nLike shit he is. He still gets to sit in Congress. \nHe has suffered near zero consequences, barely even minimal. He had his slap on the wrist and once things die down he'll get right back to his committee assignments.", ">\n\nI’m mostly just upset he has such fantastic healthcare.", ">\n\nWe all should.", ">\n\nWow, we never knew this (note the sarcasm)", ">\n\nI think what's notable here is he's actually telling the truth about something for once (that he's a liar).", ">\n\nIt’s because even this is a lie. A lot of people were in on his various scams and frauds. He lied to a lot of people, but not everyone.", ">\n\nGeorge Santos has an identical twin who always tells the truth.", ">\n\nTomax and Xamot", ">\n\nThis guy Joes what he's talking about.", ">\n\nAnd Joe-ing is half the battle", ">\n\nG.I. Know?", ">\n\n🎶A Real American He-Joe!🎶", ">\n\nDemocrats will push out Al Franken over a misguided joke. \nThe GOP still stands by George Santos. \nDon’t let anyone ever tell you “bOtH SiDeS aRe ThE SaMe” again." ]