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[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin" ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace" ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…" ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo" ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream" ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court" ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?" ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?" ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol" ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?" ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …" ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!" ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming" ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization" ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk..." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency" ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)" ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?" ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?" ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close.", ">\n\nFederal Coverup Center." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close.", ">\n\nFederal Coverup Center.", ">\n\nThat man is evil." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close.", ">\n\nFederal Coverup Center.", ">\n\nThat man is evil.", ">\n\nPeople acting like we don't know how to deal with the house making threats to the executive branch. Ignore subeonas, deny, deflect, then when it reaches the president they obstruct for \"the good of the nation.\" Nothing this house does will matter." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close.", ">\n\nFederal Coverup Center.", ">\n\nThat man is evil.", ">\n\nPeople acting like we don't know how to deal with the house making threats to the executive branch. Ignore subeonas, deny, deflect, then when it reaches the president they obstruct for \"the good of the nation.\" Nothing this house does will matter.", ">\n\nWe're going to get to the bottom of why Democrats keep investigating all the crimes we've been openly committing." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close.", ">\n\nFederal Coverup Center.", ">\n\nThat man is evil.", ">\n\nPeople acting like we don't know how to deal with the house making threats to the executive branch. Ignore subeonas, deny, deflect, then when it reaches the president they obstruct for \"the good of the nation.\" Nothing this house does will matter.", ">\n\nWe're going to get to the bottom of why Democrats keep investigating all the crimes we've been openly committing.", ">\n\n*review.. should say sabotage" ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close.", ">\n\nFederal Coverup Center.", ">\n\nThat man is evil.", ">\n\nPeople acting like we don't know how to deal with the house making threats to the executive branch. Ignore subeonas, deny, deflect, then when it reaches the president they obstruct for \"the good of the nation.\" Nothing this house does will matter.", ">\n\nWe're going to get to the bottom of why Democrats keep investigating all the crimes we've been openly committing.", ">\n\n*review.. should say sabotage", ">\n\nSounds to me like this is an erosion of separation of powers and all the judicial branch has to do is refuse to cooperate with them.\nAs read in this article, the judicial branch would be WELL within their rights to refuse to cooperate.\nI know as a citizen of this nation, and the understanding that those in congress are my EMPLOYEES, I insist they cooperate with any investigation into their behavior." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close.", ">\n\nFederal Coverup Center.", ">\n\nThat man is evil.", ">\n\nPeople acting like we don't know how to deal with the house making threats to the executive branch. Ignore subeonas, deny, deflect, then when it reaches the president they obstruct for \"the good of the nation.\" Nothing this house does will matter.", ">\n\nWe're going to get to the bottom of why Democrats keep investigating all the crimes we've been openly committing.", ">\n\n*review.. should say sabotage", ">\n\nSounds to me like this is an erosion of separation of powers and all the judicial branch has to do is refuse to cooperate with them.\nAs read in this article, the judicial branch would be WELL within their rights to refuse to cooperate.\nI know as a citizen of this nation, and the understanding that those in congress are my EMPLOYEES, I insist they cooperate with any investigation into their behavior.", ">\n\nThey will struggle, because these investigations are difficult, time consuming, and require some competence to conduct efficiently. I hope they try to do everything at once." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close.", ">\n\nFederal Coverup Center.", ">\n\nThat man is evil.", ">\n\nPeople acting like we don't know how to deal with the house making threats to the executive branch. Ignore subeonas, deny, deflect, then when it reaches the president they obstruct for \"the good of the nation.\" Nothing this house does will matter.", ">\n\nWe're going to get to the bottom of why Democrats keep investigating all the crimes we've been openly committing.", ">\n\n*review.. should say sabotage", ">\n\nSounds to me like this is an erosion of separation of powers and all the judicial branch has to do is refuse to cooperate with them.\nAs read in this article, the judicial branch would be WELL within their rights to refuse to cooperate.\nI know as a citizen of this nation, and the understanding that those in congress are my EMPLOYEES, I insist they cooperate with any investigation into their behavior.", ">\n\nThey will struggle, because these investigations are difficult, time consuming, and require some competence to conduct efficiently. I hope they try to do everything at once.", ">\n\nThe party of domestic terrorism goes right after the investigations of its criminal and seditious leaders and participants." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close.", ">\n\nFederal Coverup Center.", ">\n\nThat man is evil.", ">\n\nPeople acting like we don't know how to deal with the house making threats to the executive branch. Ignore subeonas, deny, deflect, then when it reaches the president they obstruct for \"the good of the nation.\" Nothing this house does will matter.", ">\n\nWe're going to get to the bottom of why Democrats keep investigating all the crimes we've been openly committing.", ">\n\n*review.. should say sabotage", ">\n\nSounds to me like this is an erosion of separation of powers and all the judicial branch has to do is refuse to cooperate with them.\nAs read in this article, the judicial branch would be WELL within their rights to refuse to cooperate.\nI know as a citizen of this nation, and the understanding that those in congress are my EMPLOYEES, I insist they cooperate with any investigation into their behavior.", ">\n\nThey will struggle, because these investigations are difficult, time consuming, and require some competence to conduct efficiently. I hope they try to do everything at once.", ">\n\nThe party of domestic terrorism goes right after the investigations of its criminal and seditious leaders and participants.", ">\n\nIt’s just that because of separation of powers they will get no information. They might as well investigate the domestic living conditions of the White House or cabinet members. They simply don’t have legal authority. They already know this. It’s just a piece of trash they came up with." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close.", ">\n\nFederal Coverup Center.", ">\n\nThat man is evil.", ">\n\nPeople acting like we don't know how to deal with the house making threats to the executive branch. Ignore subeonas, deny, deflect, then when it reaches the president they obstruct for \"the good of the nation.\" Nothing this house does will matter.", ">\n\nWe're going to get to the bottom of why Democrats keep investigating all the crimes we've been openly committing.", ">\n\n*review.. should say sabotage", ">\n\nSounds to me like this is an erosion of separation of powers and all the judicial branch has to do is refuse to cooperate with them.\nAs read in this article, the judicial branch would be WELL within their rights to refuse to cooperate.\nI know as a citizen of this nation, and the understanding that those in congress are my EMPLOYEES, I insist they cooperate with any investigation into their behavior.", ">\n\nThey will struggle, because these investigations are difficult, time consuming, and require some competence to conduct efficiently. I hope they try to do everything at once.", ">\n\nThe party of domestic terrorism goes right after the investigations of its criminal and seditious leaders and participants.", ">\n\nIt’s just that because of separation of powers they will get no information. They might as well investigate the domestic living conditions of the White House or cabinet members. They simply don’t have legal authority. They already know this. It’s just a piece of trash they came up with.", ">\n\nWe've investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close.", ">\n\nFederal Coverup Center.", ">\n\nThat man is evil.", ">\n\nPeople acting like we don't know how to deal with the house making threats to the executive branch. Ignore subeonas, deny, deflect, then when it reaches the president they obstruct for \"the good of the nation.\" Nothing this house does will matter.", ">\n\nWe're going to get to the bottom of why Democrats keep investigating all the crimes we've been openly committing.", ">\n\n*review.. should say sabotage", ">\n\nSounds to me like this is an erosion of separation of powers and all the judicial branch has to do is refuse to cooperate with them.\nAs read in this article, the judicial branch would be WELL within their rights to refuse to cooperate.\nI know as a citizen of this nation, and the understanding that those in congress are my EMPLOYEES, I insist they cooperate with any investigation into their behavior.", ">\n\nThey will struggle, because these investigations are difficult, time consuming, and require some competence to conduct efficiently. I hope they try to do everything at once.", ">\n\nThe party of domestic terrorism goes right after the investigations of its criminal and seditious leaders and participants.", ">\n\nIt’s just that because of separation of powers they will get no information. They might as well investigate the domestic living conditions of the White House or cabinet members. They simply don’t have legal authority. They already know this. It’s just a piece of trash they came up with.", ">\n\nWe've investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.", ">\n\nBirds of a feather stay together." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close.", ">\n\nFederal Coverup Center.", ">\n\nThat man is evil.", ">\n\nPeople acting like we don't know how to deal with the house making threats to the executive branch. Ignore subeonas, deny, deflect, then when it reaches the president they obstruct for \"the good of the nation.\" Nothing this house does will matter.", ">\n\nWe're going to get to the bottom of why Democrats keep investigating all the crimes we've been openly committing.", ">\n\n*review.. should say sabotage", ">\n\nSounds to me like this is an erosion of separation of powers and all the judicial branch has to do is refuse to cooperate with them.\nAs read in this article, the judicial branch would be WELL within their rights to refuse to cooperate.\nI know as a citizen of this nation, and the understanding that those in congress are my EMPLOYEES, I insist they cooperate with any investigation into their behavior.", ">\n\nThey will struggle, because these investigations are difficult, time consuming, and require some competence to conduct efficiently. I hope they try to do everything at once.", ">\n\nThe party of domestic terrorism goes right after the investigations of its criminal and seditious leaders and participants.", ">\n\nIt’s just that because of separation of powers they will get no information. They might as well investigate the domestic living conditions of the White House or cabinet members. They simply don’t have legal authority. They already know this. It’s just a piece of trash they came up with.", ">\n\nWe've investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.", ">\n\nBirds of a feather stay together.", ">\n\nthey won’t be able to do anything but it will be on tv all the time, especially during elections" ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close.", ">\n\nFederal Coverup Center.", ">\n\nThat man is evil.", ">\n\nPeople acting like we don't know how to deal with the house making threats to the executive branch. Ignore subeonas, deny, deflect, then when it reaches the president they obstruct for \"the good of the nation.\" Nothing this house does will matter.", ">\n\nWe're going to get to the bottom of why Democrats keep investigating all the crimes we've been openly committing.", ">\n\n*review.. should say sabotage", ">\n\nSounds to me like this is an erosion of separation of powers and all the judicial branch has to do is refuse to cooperate with them.\nAs read in this article, the judicial branch would be WELL within their rights to refuse to cooperate.\nI know as a citizen of this nation, and the understanding that those in congress are my EMPLOYEES, I insist they cooperate with any investigation into their behavior.", ">\n\nThey will struggle, because these investigations are difficult, time consuming, and require some competence to conduct efficiently. I hope they try to do everything at once.", ">\n\nThe party of domestic terrorism goes right after the investigations of its criminal and seditious leaders and participants.", ">\n\nIt’s just that because of separation of powers they will get no information. They might as well investigate the domestic living conditions of the White House or cabinet members. They simply don’t have legal authority. They already know this. It’s just a piece of trash they came up with.", ">\n\nWe've investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.", ">\n\nBirds of a feather stay together.", ">\n\nthey won’t be able to do anything but it will be on tv all the time, especially during elections", ">\n\nThe J6 Committee adjourned and is no longer \"ongoing\". So ... the GOP wants to \"review\" criminal investigations into their own Members?" ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close.", ">\n\nFederal Coverup Center.", ">\n\nThat man is evil.", ">\n\nPeople acting like we don't know how to deal with the house making threats to the executive branch. Ignore subeonas, deny, deflect, then when it reaches the president they obstruct for \"the good of the nation.\" Nothing this house does will matter.", ">\n\nWe're going to get to the bottom of why Democrats keep investigating all the crimes we've been openly committing.", ">\n\n*review.. should say sabotage", ">\n\nSounds to me like this is an erosion of separation of powers and all the judicial branch has to do is refuse to cooperate with them.\nAs read in this article, the judicial branch would be WELL within their rights to refuse to cooperate.\nI know as a citizen of this nation, and the understanding that those in congress are my EMPLOYEES, I insist they cooperate with any investigation into their behavior.", ">\n\nThey will struggle, because these investigations are difficult, time consuming, and require some competence to conduct efficiently. I hope they try to do everything at once.", ">\n\nThe party of domestic terrorism goes right after the investigations of its criminal and seditious leaders and participants.", ">\n\nIt’s just that because of separation of powers they will get no information. They might as well investigate the domestic living conditions of the White House or cabinet members. They simply don’t have legal authority. They already know this. It’s just a piece of trash they came up with.", ">\n\nWe've investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.", ">\n\nBirds of a feather stay together.", ">\n\nthey won’t be able to do anything but it will be on tv all the time, especially during elections", ">\n\nThe J6 Committee adjourned and is no longer \"ongoing\". So ... the GOP wants to \"review\" criminal investigations into their own Members?", ">\n\n\"I DECLARE THE POWER OF OVERSIGHT\"\nThat's not how it works Kevin" ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close.", ">\n\nFederal Coverup Center.", ">\n\nThat man is evil.", ">\n\nPeople acting like we don't know how to deal with the house making threats to the executive branch. Ignore subeonas, deny, deflect, then when it reaches the president they obstruct for \"the good of the nation.\" Nothing this house does will matter.", ">\n\nWe're going to get to the bottom of why Democrats keep investigating all the crimes we've been openly committing.", ">\n\n*review.. should say sabotage", ">\n\nSounds to me like this is an erosion of separation of powers and all the judicial branch has to do is refuse to cooperate with them.\nAs read in this article, the judicial branch would be WELL within their rights to refuse to cooperate.\nI know as a citizen of this nation, and the understanding that those in congress are my EMPLOYEES, I insist they cooperate with any investigation into their behavior.", ">\n\nThey will struggle, because these investigations are difficult, time consuming, and require some competence to conduct efficiently. I hope they try to do everything at once.", ">\n\nThe party of domestic terrorism goes right after the investigations of its criminal and seditious leaders and participants.", ">\n\nIt’s just that because of separation of powers they will get no information. They might as well investigate the domestic living conditions of the White House or cabinet members. They simply don’t have legal authority. They already know this. It’s just a piece of trash they came up with.", ">\n\nWe've investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.", ">\n\nBirds of a feather stay together.", ">\n\nthey won’t be able to do anything but it will be on tv all the time, especially during elections", ">\n\nThe J6 Committee adjourned and is no longer \"ongoing\". So ... the GOP wants to \"review\" criminal investigations into their own Members?", ">\n\n\"I DECLARE THE POWER OF OVERSIGHT\"\nThat's not how it works Kevin", ">\n\nThe legislative branch doesn’t really have authority over that sort of stuff. But they’re welcome to try to pass some laws." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close.", ">\n\nFederal Coverup Center.", ">\n\nThat man is evil.", ">\n\nPeople acting like we don't know how to deal with the house making threats to the executive branch. Ignore subeonas, deny, deflect, then when it reaches the president they obstruct for \"the good of the nation.\" Nothing this house does will matter.", ">\n\nWe're going to get to the bottom of why Democrats keep investigating all the crimes we've been openly committing.", ">\n\n*review.. should say sabotage", ">\n\nSounds to me like this is an erosion of separation of powers and all the judicial branch has to do is refuse to cooperate with them.\nAs read in this article, the judicial branch would be WELL within their rights to refuse to cooperate.\nI know as a citizen of this nation, and the understanding that those in congress are my EMPLOYEES, I insist they cooperate with any investigation into their behavior.", ">\n\nThey will struggle, because these investigations are difficult, time consuming, and require some competence to conduct efficiently. I hope they try to do everything at once.", ">\n\nThe party of domestic terrorism goes right after the investigations of its criminal and seditious leaders and participants.", ">\n\nIt’s just that because of separation of powers they will get no information. They might as well investigate the domestic living conditions of the White House or cabinet members. They simply don’t have legal authority. They already know this. It’s just a piece of trash they came up with.", ">\n\nWe've investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.", ">\n\nBirds of a feather stay together.", ">\n\nthey won’t be able to do anything but it will be on tv all the time, especially during elections", ">\n\nThe J6 Committee adjourned and is no longer \"ongoing\". So ... the GOP wants to \"review\" criminal investigations into their own Members?", ">\n\n\"I DECLARE THE POWER OF OVERSIGHT\"\nThat's not how it works Kevin", ">\n\nThe legislative branch doesn’t really have authority over that sort of stuff. But they’re welcome to try to pass some laws.", ">\n\nJim Jordan is a piece of shit. F him." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close.", ">\n\nFederal Coverup Center.", ">\n\nThat man is evil.", ">\n\nPeople acting like we don't know how to deal with the house making threats to the executive branch. Ignore subeonas, deny, deflect, then when it reaches the president they obstruct for \"the good of the nation.\" Nothing this house does will matter.", ">\n\nWe're going to get to the bottom of why Democrats keep investigating all the crimes we've been openly committing.", ">\n\n*review.. should say sabotage", ">\n\nSounds to me like this is an erosion of separation of powers and all the judicial branch has to do is refuse to cooperate with them.\nAs read in this article, the judicial branch would be WELL within their rights to refuse to cooperate.\nI know as a citizen of this nation, and the understanding that those in congress are my EMPLOYEES, I insist they cooperate with any investigation into their behavior.", ">\n\nThey will struggle, because these investigations are difficult, time consuming, and require some competence to conduct efficiently. I hope they try to do everything at once.", ">\n\nThe party of domestic terrorism goes right after the investigations of its criminal and seditious leaders and participants.", ">\n\nIt’s just that because of separation of powers they will get no information. They might as well investigate the domestic living conditions of the White House or cabinet members. They simply don’t have legal authority. They already know this. It’s just a piece of trash they came up with.", ">\n\nWe've investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.", ">\n\nBirds of a feather stay together.", ">\n\nthey won’t be able to do anything but it will be on tv all the time, especially during elections", ">\n\nThe J6 Committee adjourned and is no longer \"ongoing\". So ... the GOP wants to \"review\" criminal investigations into their own Members?", ">\n\n\"I DECLARE THE POWER OF OVERSIGHT\"\nThat's not how it works Kevin", ">\n\nThe legislative branch doesn’t really have authority over that sort of stuff. But they’re welcome to try to pass some laws.", ">\n\nJim Jordan is a piece of shit. F him.", ">\n\nHow else is trump going to get a look at what evidence the government has?" ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close.", ">\n\nFederal Coverup Center.", ">\n\nThat man is evil.", ">\n\nPeople acting like we don't know how to deal with the house making threats to the executive branch. Ignore subeonas, deny, deflect, then when it reaches the president they obstruct for \"the good of the nation.\" Nothing this house does will matter.", ">\n\nWe're going to get to the bottom of why Democrats keep investigating all the crimes we've been openly committing.", ">\n\n*review.. should say sabotage", ">\n\nSounds to me like this is an erosion of separation of powers and all the judicial branch has to do is refuse to cooperate with them.\nAs read in this article, the judicial branch would be WELL within their rights to refuse to cooperate.\nI know as a citizen of this nation, and the understanding that those in congress are my EMPLOYEES, I insist they cooperate with any investigation into their behavior.", ">\n\nThey will struggle, because these investigations are difficult, time consuming, and require some competence to conduct efficiently. I hope they try to do everything at once.", ">\n\nThe party of domestic terrorism goes right after the investigations of its criminal and seditious leaders and participants.", ">\n\nIt’s just that because of separation of powers they will get no information. They might as well investigate the domestic living conditions of the White House or cabinet members. They simply don’t have legal authority. They already know this. It’s just a piece of trash they came up with.", ">\n\nWe've investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.", ">\n\nBirds of a feather stay together.", ">\n\nthey won’t be able to do anything but it will be on tv all the time, especially during elections", ">\n\nThe J6 Committee adjourned and is no longer \"ongoing\". So ... the GOP wants to \"review\" criminal investigations into their own Members?", ">\n\n\"I DECLARE THE POWER OF OVERSIGHT\"\nThat's not how it works Kevin", ">\n\nThe legislative branch doesn’t really have authority over that sort of stuff. But they’re welcome to try to pass some laws.", ">\n\nJim Jordan is a piece of shit. F him.", ">\n\nHow else is trump going to get a look at what evidence the government has?", ">\n\ndiscovery in the court of law, if we're lucky" ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close.", ">\n\nFederal Coverup Center.", ">\n\nThat man is evil.", ">\n\nPeople acting like we don't know how to deal with the house making threats to the executive branch. Ignore subeonas, deny, deflect, then when it reaches the president they obstruct for \"the good of the nation.\" Nothing this house does will matter.", ">\n\nWe're going to get to the bottom of why Democrats keep investigating all the crimes we've been openly committing.", ">\n\n*review.. should say sabotage", ">\n\nSounds to me like this is an erosion of separation of powers and all the judicial branch has to do is refuse to cooperate with them.\nAs read in this article, the judicial branch would be WELL within their rights to refuse to cooperate.\nI know as a citizen of this nation, and the understanding that those in congress are my EMPLOYEES, I insist they cooperate with any investigation into their behavior.", ">\n\nThey will struggle, because these investigations are difficult, time consuming, and require some competence to conduct efficiently. I hope they try to do everything at once.", ">\n\nThe party of domestic terrorism goes right after the investigations of its criminal and seditious leaders and participants.", ">\n\nIt’s just that because of separation of powers they will get no information. They might as well investigate the domestic living conditions of the White House or cabinet members. They simply don’t have legal authority. They already know this. It’s just a piece of trash they came up with.", ">\n\nWe've investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.", ">\n\nBirds of a feather stay together.", ">\n\nthey won’t be able to do anything but it will be on tv all the time, especially during elections", ">\n\nThe J6 Committee adjourned and is no longer \"ongoing\". So ... the GOP wants to \"review\" criminal investigations into their own Members?", ">\n\n\"I DECLARE THE POWER OF OVERSIGHT\"\nThat's not how it works Kevin", ">\n\nThe legislative branch doesn’t really have authority over that sort of stuff. But they’re welcome to try to pass some laws.", ">\n\nJim Jordan is a piece of shit. F him.", ">\n\nHow else is trump going to get a look at what evidence the government has?", ">\n\ndiscovery in the court of law, if we're lucky", ">\n\nThe trump nutcases might actually blackmail the GOP into protecting Trump, this is just GREAT :D" ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close.", ">\n\nFederal Coverup Center.", ">\n\nThat man is evil.", ">\n\nPeople acting like we don't know how to deal with the house making threats to the executive branch. Ignore subeonas, deny, deflect, then when it reaches the president they obstruct for \"the good of the nation.\" Nothing this house does will matter.", ">\n\nWe're going to get to the bottom of why Democrats keep investigating all the crimes we've been openly committing.", ">\n\n*review.. should say sabotage", ">\n\nSounds to me like this is an erosion of separation of powers and all the judicial branch has to do is refuse to cooperate with them.\nAs read in this article, the judicial branch would be WELL within their rights to refuse to cooperate.\nI know as a citizen of this nation, and the understanding that those in congress are my EMPLOYEES, I insist they cooperate with any investigation into their behavior.", ">\n\nThey will struggle, because these investigations are difficult, time consuming, and require some competence to conduct efficiently. I hope they try to do everything at once.", ">\n\nThe party of domestic terrorism goes right after the investigations of its criminal and seditious leaders and participants.", ">\n\nIt’s just that because of separation of powers they will get no information. They might as well investigate the domestic living conditions of the White House or cabinet members. They simply don’t have legal authority. They already know this. It’s just a piece of trash they came up with.", ">\n\nWe've investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.", ">\n\nBirds of a feather stay together.", ">\n\nthey won’t be able to do anything but it will be on tv all the time, especially during elections", ">\n\nThe J6 Committee adjourned and is no longer \"ongoing\". So ... the GOP wants to \"review\" criminal investigations into their own Members?", ">\n\n\"I DECLARE THE POWER OF OVERSIGHT\"\nThat's not how it works Kevin", ">\n\nThe legislative branch doesn’t really have authority over that sort of stuff. But they’re welcome to try to pass some laws.", ">\n\nJim Jordan is a piece of shit. F him.", ">\n\nHow else is trump going to get a look at what evidence the government has?", ">\n\ndiscovery in the court of law, if we're lucky", ">\n\nThe trump nutcases might actually blackmail the GOP into protecting Trump, this is just GREAT :D", ">\n\nDon’t even hide the corruption." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close.", ">\n\nFederal Coverup Center.", ">\n\nThat man is evil.", ">\n\nPeople acting like we don't know how to deal with the house making threats to the executive branch. Ignore subeonas, deny, deflect, then when it reaches the president they obstruct for \"the good of the nation.\" Nothing this house does will matter.", ">\n\nWe're going to get to the bottom of why Democrats keep investigating all the crimes we've been openly committing.", ">\n\n*review.. should say sabotage", ">\n\nSounds to me like this is an erosion of separation of powers and all the judicial branch has to do is refuse to cooperate with them.\nAs read in this article, the judicial branch would be WELL within their rights to refuse to cooperate.\nI know as a citizen of this nation, and the understanding that those in congress are my EMPLOYEES, I insist they cooperate with any investigation into their behavior.", ">\n\nThey will struggle, because these investigations are difficult, time consuming, and require some competence to conduct efficiently. I hope they try to do everything at once.", ">\n\nThe party of domestic terrorism goes right after the investigations of its criminal and seditious leaders and participants.", ">\n\nIt’s just that because of separation of powers they will get no information. They might as well investigate the domestic living conditions of the White House or cabinet members. They simply don’t have legal authority. They already know this. It’s just a piece of trash they came up with.", ">\n\nWe've investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.", ">\n\nBirds of a feather stay together.", ">\n\nthey won’t be able to do anything but it will be on tv all the time, especially during elections", ">\n\nThe J6 Committee adjourned and is no longer \"ongoing\". So ... the GOP wants to \"review\" criminal investigations into their own Members?", ">\n\n\"I DECLARE THE POWER OF OVERSIGHT\"\nThat's not how it works Kevin", ">\n\nThe legislative branch doesn’t really have authority over that sort of stuff. But they’re welcome to try to pass some laws.", ">\n\nJim Jordan is a piece of shit. F him.", ">\n\nHow else is trump going to get a look at what evidence the government has?", ">\n\ndiscovery in the court of law, if we're lucky", ">\n\nThe trump nutcases might actually blackmail the GOP into protecting Trump, this is just GREAT :D", ">\n\nDon’t even hide the corruption.", ">\n\nFucking Fascists." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close.", ">\n\nFederal Coverup Center.", ">\n\nThat man is evil.", ">\n\nPeople acting like we don't know how to deal with the house making threats to the executive branch. Ignore subeonas, deny, deflect, then when it reaches the president they obstruct for \"the good of the nation.\" Nothing this house does will matter.", ">\n\nWe're going to get to the bottom of why Democrats keep investigating all the crimes we've been openly committing.", ">\n\n*review.. should say sabotage", ">\n\nSounds to me like this is an erosion of separation of powers and all the judicial branch has to do is refuse to cooperate with them.\nAs read in this article, the judicial branch would be WELL within their rights to refuse to cooperate.\nI know as a citizen of this nation, and the understanding that those in congress are my EMPLOYEES, I insist they cooperate with any investigation into their behavior.", ">\n\nThey will struggle, because these investigations are difficult, time consuming, and require some competence to conduct efficiently. I hope they try to do everything at once.", ">\n\nThe party of domestic terrorism goes right after the investigations of its criminal and seditious leaders and participants.", ">\n\nIt’s just that because of separation of powers they will get no information. They might as well investigate the domestic living conditions of the White House or cabinet members. They simply don’t have legal authority. They already know this. It’s just a piece of trash they came up with.", ">\n\nWe've investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.", ">\n\nBirds of a feather stay together.", ">\n\nthey won’t be able to do anything but it will be on tv all the time, especially during elections", ">\n\nThe J6 Committee adjourned and is no longer \"ongoing\". So ... the GOP wants to \"review\" criminal investigations into their own Members?", ">\n\n\"I DECLARE THE POWER OF OVERSIGHT\"\nThat's not how it works Kevin", ">\n\nThe legislative branch doesn’t really have authority over that sort of stuff. But they’re welcome to try to pass some laws.", ">\n\nJim Jordan is a piece of shit. F him.", ">\n\nHow else is trump going to get a look at what evidence the government has?", ">\n\ndiscovery in the court of law, if we're lucky", ">\n\nThe trump nutcases might actually blackmail the GOP into protecting Trump, this is just GREAT :D", ">\n\nDon’t even hide the corruption.", ">\n\nFucking Fascists.", ">\n\nThey want to see hunter’s dick pics." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close.", ">\n\nFederal Coverup Center.", ">\n\nThat man is evil.", ">\n\nPeople acting like we don't know how to deal with the house making threats to the executive branch. Ignore subeonas, deny, deflect, then when it reaches the president they obstruct for \"the good of the nation.\" Nothing this house does will matter.", ">\n\nWe're going to get to the bottom of why Democrats keep investigating all the crimes we've been openly committing.", ">\n\n*review.. should say sabotage", ">\n\nSounds to me like this is an erosion of separation of powers and all the judicial branch has to do is refuse to cooperate with them.\nAs read in this article, the judicial branch would be WELL within their rights to refuse to cooperate.\nI know as a citizen of this nation, and the understanding that those in congress are my EMPLOYEES, I insist they cooperate with any investigation into their behavior.", ">\n\nThey will struggle, because these investigations are difficult, time consuming, and require some competence to conduct efficiently. I hope they try to do everything at once.", ">\n\nThe party of domestic terrorism goes right after the investigations of its criminal and seditious leaders and participants.", ">\n\nIt’s just that because of separation of powers they will get no information. They might as well investigate the domestic living conditions of the White House or cabinet members. They simply don’t have legal authority. They already know this. It’s just a piece of trash they came up with.", ">\n\nWe've investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.", ">\n\nBirds of a feather stay together.", ">\n\nthey won’t be able to do anything but it will be on tv all the time, especially during elections", ">\n\nThe J6 Committee adjourned and is no longer \"ongoing\". So ... the GOP wants to \"review\" criminal investigations into their own Members?", ">\n\n\"I DECLARE THE POWER OF OVERSIGHT\"\nThat's not how it works Kevin", ">\n\nThe legislative branch doesn’t really have authority over that sort of stuff. But they’re welcome to try to pass some laws.", ">\n\nJim Jordan is a piece of shit. F him.", ">\n\nHow else is trump going to get a look at what evidence the government has?", ">\n\ndiscovery in the court of law, if we're lucky", ">\n\nThe trump nutcases might actually blackmail the GOP into protecting Trump, this is just GREAT :D", ">\n\nDon’t even hide the corruption.", ">\n\nFucking Fascists.", ">\n\nThey want to see hunter’s dick pics.", ">\n\nIt's gotta be this, thanks because I was confused." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close.", ">\n\nFederal Coverup Center.", ">\n\nThat man is evil.", ">\n\nPeople acting like we don't know how to deal with the house making threats to the executive branch. Ignore subeonas, deny, deflect, then when it reaches the president they obstruct for \"the good of the nation.\" Nothing this house does will matter.", ">\n\nWe're going to get to the bottom of why Democrats keep investigating all the crimes we've been openly committing.", ">\n\n*review.. should say sabotage", ">\n\nSounds to me like this is an erosion of separation of powers and all the judicial branch has to do is refuse to cooperate with them.\nAs read in this article, the judicial branch would be WELL within their rights to refuse to cooperate.\nI know as a citizen of this nation, and the understanding that those in congress are my EMPLOYEES, I insist they cooperate with any investigation into their behavior.", ">\n\nThey will struggle, because these investigations are difficult, time consuming, and require some competence to conduct efficiently. I hope they try to do everything at once.", ">\n\nThe party of domestic terrorism goes right after the investigations of its criminal and seditious leaders and participants.", ">\n\nIt’s just that because of separation of powers they will get no information. They might as well investigate the domestic living conditions of the White House or cabinet members. They simply don’t have legal authority. They already know this. It’s just a piece of trash they came up with.", ">\n\nWe've investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.", ">\n\nBirds of a feather stay together.", ">\n\nthey won’t be able to do anything but it will be on tv all the time, especially during elections", ">\n\nThe J6 Committee adjourned and is no longer \"ongoing\". So ... the GOP wants to \"review\" criminal investigations into their own Members?", ">\n\n\"I DECLARE THE POWER OF OVERSIGHT\"\nThat's not how it works Kevin", ">\n\nThe legislative branch doesn’t really have authority over that sort of stuff. But they’re welcome to try to pass some laws.", ">\n\nJim Jordan is a piece of shit. F him.", ">\n\nHow else is trump going to get a look at what evidence the government has?", ">\n\ndiscovery in the court of law, if we're lucky", ">\n\nThe trump nutcases might actually blackmail the GOP into protecting Trump, this is just GREAT :D", ">\n\nDon’t even hide the corruption.", ">\n\nFucking Fascists.", ">\n\nThey want to see hunter’s dick pics.", ">\n\nIt's gotta be this, thanks because I was confused.", ">\n\nIt's not all bad...I like the concession of bringing term limits for congressmen to a floor vote." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close.", ">\n\nFederal Coverup Center.", ">\n\nThat man is evil.", ">\n\nPeople acting like we don't know how to deal with the house making threats to the executive branch. Ignore subeonas, deny, deflect, then when it reaches the president they obstruct for \"the good of the nation.\" Nothing this house does will matter.", ">\n\nWe're going to get to the bottom of why Democrats keep investigating all the crimes we've been openly committing.", ">\n\n*review.. should say sabotage", ">\n\nSounds to me like this is an erosion of separation of powers and all the judicial branch has to do is refuse to cooperate with them.\nAs read in this article, the judicial branch would be WELL within their rights to refuse to cooperate.\nI know as a citizen of this nation, and the understanding that those in congress are my EMPLOYEES, I insist they cooperate with any investigation into their behavior.", ">\n\nThey will struggle, because these investigations are difficult, time consuming, and require some competence to conduct efficiently. I hope they try to do everything at once.", ">\n\nThe party of domestic terrorism goes right after the investigations of its criminal and seditious leaders and participants.", ">\n\nIt’s just that because of separation of powers they will get no information. They might as well investigate the domestic living conditions of the White House or cabinet members. They simply don’t have legal authority. They already know this. It’s just a piece of trash they came up with.", ">\n\nWe've investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.", ">\n\nBirds of a feather stay together.", ">\n\nthey won’t be able to do anything but it will be on tv all the time, especially during elections", ">\n\nThe J6 Committee adjourned and is no longer \"ongoing\". So ... the GOP wants to \"review\" criminal investigations into their own Members?", ">\n\n\"I DECLARE THE POWER OF OVERSIGHT\"\nThat's not how it works Kevin", ">\n\nThe legislative branch doesn’t really have authority over that sort of stuff. But they’re welcome to try to pass some laws.", ">\n\nJim Jordan is a piece of shit. F him.", ">\n\nHow else is trump going to get a look at what evidence the government has?", ">\n\ndiscovery in the court of law, if we're lucky", ">\n\nThe trump nutcases might actually blackmail the GOP into protecting Trump, this is just GREAT :D", ">\n\nDon’t even hide the corruption.", ">\n\nFucking Fascists.", ">\n\nThey want to see hunter’s dick pics.", ">\n\nIt's gotta be this, thanks because I was confused.", ">\n\nIt's not all bad...I like the concession of bringing term limits for congressmen to a floor vote.", ">\n\nNever going to happen. They will never vote themselves out of a comfy job." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close.", ">\n\nFederal Coverup Center.", ">\n\nThat man is evil.", ">\n\nPeople acting like we don't know how to deal with the house making threats to the executive branch. Ignore subeonas, deny, deflect, then when it reaches the president they obstruct for \"the good of the nation.\" Nothing this house does will matter.", ">\n\nWe're going to get to the bottom of why Democrats keep investigating all the crimes we've been openly committing.", ">\n\n*review.. should say sabotage", ">\n\nSounds to me like this is an erosion of separation of powers and all the judicial branch has to do is refuse to cooperate with them.\nAs read in this article, the judicial branch would be WELL within their rights to refuse to cooperate.\nI know as a citizen of this nation, and the understanding that those in congress are my EMPLOYEES, I insist they cooperate with any investigation into their behavior.", ">\n\nThey will struggle, because these investigations are difficult, time consuming, and require some competence to conduct efficiently. I hope they try to do everything at once.", ">\n\nThe party of domestic terrorism goes right after the investigations of its criminal and seditious leaders and participants.", ">\n\nIt’s just that because of separation of powers they will get no information. They might as well investigate the domestic living conditions of the White House or cabinet members. They simply don’t have legal authority. They already know this. It’s just a piece of trash they came up with.", ">\n\nWe've investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.", ">\n\nBirds of a feather stay together.", ">\n\nthey won’t be able to do anything but it will be on tv all the time, especially during elections", ">\n\nThe J6 Committee adjourned and is no longer \"ongoing\". So ... the GOP wants to \"review\" criminal investigations into their own Members?", ">\n\n\"I DECLARE THE POWER OF OVERSIGHT\"\nThat's not how it works Kevin", ">\n\nThe legislative branch doesn’t really have authority over that sort of stuff. But they’re welcome to try to pass some laws.", ">\n\nJim Jordan is a piece of shit. F him.", ">\n\nHow else is trump going to get a look at what evidence the government has?", ">\n\ndiscovery in the court of law, if we're lucky", ">\n\nThe trump nutcases might actually blackmail the GOP into protecting Trump, this is just GREAT :D", ">\n\nDon’t even hide the corruption.", ">\n\nFucking Fascists.", ">\n\nThey want to see hunter’s dick pics.", ">\n\nIt's gotta be this, thanks because I was confused.", ">\n\nIt's not all bad...I like the concession of bringing term limits for congressmen to a floor vote.", ">\n\nNever going to happen. They will never vote themselves out of a comfy job.", ">\n\nTrue...but at least you see how everyone votes." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close.", ">\n\nFederal Coverup Center.", ">\n\nThat man is evil.", ">\n\nPeople acting like we don't know how to deal with the house making threats to the executive branch. Ignore subeonas, deny, deflect, then when it reaches the president they obstruct for \"the good of the nation.\" Nothing this house does will matter.", ">\n\nWe're going to get to the bottom of why Democrats keep investigating all the crimes we've been openly committing.", ">\n\n*review.. should say sabotage", ">\n\nSounds to me like this is an erosion of separation of powers and all the judicial branch has to do is refuse to cooperate with them.\nAs read in this article, the judicial branch would be WELL within their rights to refuse to cooperate.\nI know as a citizen of this nation, and the understanding that those in congress are my EMPLOYEES, I insist they cooperate with any investigation into their behavior.", ">\n\nThey will struggle, because these investigations are difficult, time consuming, and require some competence to conduct efficiently. I hope they try to do everything at once.", ">\n\nThe party of domestic terrorism goes right after the investigations of its criminal and seditious leaders and participants.", ">\n\nIt’s just that because of separation of powers they will get no information. They might as well investigate the domestic living conditions of the White House or cabinet members. They simply don’t have legal authority. They already know this. It’s just a piece of trash they came up with.", ">\n\nWe've investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.", ">\n\nBirds of a feather stay together.", ">\n\nthey won’t be able to do anything but it will be on tv all the time, especially during elections", ">\n\nThe J6 Committee adjourned and is no longer \"ongoing\". So ... the GOP wants to \"review\" criminal investigations into their own Members?", ">\n\n\"I DECLARE THE POWER OF OVERSIGHT\"\nThat's not how it works Kevin", ">\n\nThe legislative branch doesn’t really have authority over that sort of stuff. But they’re welcome to try to pass some laws.", ">\n\nJim Jordan is a piece of shit. F him.", ">\n\nHow else is trump going to get a look at what evidence the government has?", ">\n\ndiscovery in the court of law, if we're lucky", ">\n\nThe trump nutcases might actually blackmail the GOP into protecting Trump, this is just GREAT :D", ">\n\nDon’t even hide the corruption.", ">\n\nFucking Fascists.", ">\n\nThey want to see hunter’s dick pics.", ">\n\nIt's gotta be this, thanks because I was confused.", ">\n\nIt's not all bad...I like the concession of bringing term limits for congressmen to a floor vote.", ">\n\nNever going to happen. They will never vote themselves out of a comfy job.", ">\n\nTrue...but at least you see how everyone votes.", ">\n\nThey will all vote no." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close.", ">\n\nFederal Coverup Center.", ">\n\nThat man is evil.", ">\n\nPeople acting like we don't know how to deal with the house making threats to the executive branch. Ignore subeonas, deny, deflect, then when it reaches the president they obstruct for \"the good of the nation.\" Nothing this house does will matter.", ">\n\nWe're going to get to the bottom of why Democrats keep investigating all the crimes we've been openly committing.", ">\n\n*review.. should say sabotage", ">\n\nSounds to me like this is an erosion of separation of powers and all the judicial branch has to do is refuse to cooperate with them.\nAs read in this article, the judicial branch would be WELL within their rights to refuse to cooperate.\nI know as a citizen of this nation, and the understanding that those in congress are my EMPLOYEES, I insist they cooperate with any investigation into their behavior.", ">\n\nThey will struggle, because these investigations are difficult, time consuming, and require some competence to conduct efficiently. I hope they try to do everything at once.", ">\n\nThe party of domestic terrorism goes right after the investigations of its criminal and seditious leaders and participants.", ">\n\nIt’s just that because of separation of powers they will get no information. They might as well investigate the domestic living conditions of the White House or cabinet members. They simply don’t have legal authority. They already know this. It’s just a piece of trash they came up with.", ">\n\nWe've investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.", ">\n\nBirds of a feather stay together.", ">\n\nthey won’t be able to do anything but it will be on tv all the time, especially during elections", ">\n\nThe J6 Committee adjourned and is no longer \"ongoing\". So ... the GOP wants to \"review\" criminal investigations into their own Members?", ">\n\n\"I DECLARE THE POWER OF OVERSIGHT\"\nThat's not how it works Kevin", ">\n\nThe legislative branch doesn’t really have authority over that sort of stuff. But they’re welcome to try to pass some laws.", ">\n\nJim Jordan is a piece of shit. F him.", ">\n\nHow else is trump going to get a look at what evidence the government has?", ">\n\ndiscovery in the court of law, if we're lucky", ">\n\nThe trump nutcases might actually blackmail the GOP into protecting Trump, this is just GREAT :D", ">\n\nDon’t even hide the corruption.", ">\n\nFucking Fascists.", ">\n\nThey want to see hunter’s dick pics.", ">\n\nIt's gotta be this, thanks because I was confused.", ">\n\nIt's not all bad...I like the concession of bringing term limits for congressmen to a floor vote.", ">\n\nNever going to happen. They will never vote themselves out of a comfy job.", ">\n\nTrue...but at least you see how everyone votes.", ">\n\nThey will all vote no.", ">\n\n…That they feel are unfair because they target republicans. Maybe don’t support a corrupt D-list celebrity who literally doesn’t care about anything but himself who tried to illegally stay in power by inciting an insurrection?\nFuck the GOP and their Orwellian horseshit." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close.", ">\n\nFederal Coverup Center.", ">\n\nThat man is evil.", ">\n\nPeople acting like we don't know how to deal with the house making threats to the executive branch. Ignore subeonas, deny, deflect, then when it reaches the president they obstruct for \"the good of the nation.\" Nothing this house does will matter.", ">\n\nWe're going to get to the bottom of why Democrats keep investigating all the crimes we've been openly committing.", ">\n\n*review.. should say sabotage", ">\n\nSounds to me like this is an erosion of separation of powers and all the judicial branch has to do is refuse to cooperate with them.\nAs read in this article, the judicial branch would be WELL within their rights to refuse to cooperate.\nI know as a citizen of this nation, and the understanding that those in congress are my EMPLOYEES, I insist they cooperate with any investigation into their behavior.", ">\n\nThey will struggle, because these investigations are difficult, time consuming, and require some competence to conduct efficiently. I hope they try to do everything at once.", ">\n\nThe party of domestic terrorism goes right after the investigations of its criminal and seditious leaders and participants.", ">\n\nIt’s just that because of separation of powers they will get no information. They might as well investigate the domestic living conditions of the White House or cabinet members. They simply don’t have legal authority. They already know this. It’s just a piece of trash they came up with.", ">\n\nWe've investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.", ">\n\nBirds of a feather stay together.", ">\n\nthey won’t be able to do anything but it will be on tv all the time, especially during elections", ">\n\nThe J6 Committee adjourned and is no longer \"ongoing\". So ... the GOP wants to \"review\" criminal investigations into their own Members?", ">\n\n\"I DECLARE THE POWER OF OVERSIGHT\"\nThat's not how it works Kevin", ">\n\nThe legislative branch doesn’t really have authority over that sort of stuff. But they’re welcome to try to pass some laws.", ">\n\nJim Jordan is a piece of shit. F him.", ">\n\nHow else is trump going to get a look at what evidence the government has?", ">\n\ndiscovery in the court of law, if we're lucky", ">\n\nThe trump nutcases might actually blackmail the GOP into protecting Trump, this is just GREAT :D", ">\n\nDon’t even hide the corruption.", ">\n\nFucking Fascists.", ">\n\nThey want to see hunter’s dick pics.", ">\n\nIt's gotta be this, thanks because I was confused.", ">\n\nIt's not all bad...I like the concession of bringing term limits for congressmen to a floor vote.", ">\n\nNever going to happen. They will never vote themselves out of a comfy job.", ">\n\nTrue...but at least you see how everyone votes.", ">\n\nThey will all vote no.", ">\n\n…That they feel are unfair because they target republicans. Maybe don’t support a corrupt D-list celebrity who literally doesn’t care about anything but himself who tried to illegally stay in power by inciting an insurrection?\nFuck the GOP and their Orwellian horseshit.", ">\n\n\nWell they can investigate but law enforcement has no authority to share details of ongoing investigations and every legal duty to refrain from doing so.\n\nI'm sure there will be challenges to subpoenas and go through the courts. There is a lot Trumpian influence on the Courts still and ultimately if it rises to the highest levels a hard-right conservative block controlling the Supreme Court." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close.", ">\n\nFederal Coverup Center.", ">\n\nThat man is evil.", ">\n\nPeople acting like we don't know how to deal with the house making threats to the executive branch. Ignore subeonas, deny, deflect, then when it reaches the president they obstruct for \"the good of the nation.\" Nothing this house does will matter.", ">\n\nWe're going to get to the bottom of why Democrats keep investigating all the crimes we've been openly committing.", ">\n\n*review.. should say sabotage", ">\n\nSounds to me like this is an erosion of separation of powers and all the judicial branch has to do is refuse to cooperate with them.\nAs read in this article, the judicial branch would be WELL within their rights to refuse to cooperate.\nI know as a citizen of this nation, and the understanding that those in congress are my EMPLOYEES, I insist they cooperate with any investigation into their behavior.", ">\n\nThey will struggle, because these investigations are difficult, time consuming, and require some competence to conduct efficiently. I hope they try to do everything at once.", ">\n\nThe party of domestic terrorism goes right after the investigations of its criminal and seditious leaders and participants.", ">\n\nIt’s just that because of separation of powers they will get no information. They might as well investigate the domestic living conditions of the White House or cabinet members. They simply don’t have legal authority. They already know this. It’s just a piece of trash they came up with.", ">\n\nWe've investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.", ">\n\nBirds of a feather stay together.", ">\n\nthey won’t be able to do anything but it will be on tv all the time, especially during elections", ">\n\nThe J6 Committee adjourned and is no longer \"ongoing\". So ... the GOP wants to \"review\" criminal investigations into their own Members?", ">\n\n\"I DECLARE THE POWER OF OVERSIGHT\"\nThat's not how it works Kevin", ">\n\nThe legislative branch doesn’t really have authority over that sort of stuff. But they’re welcome to try to pass some laws.", ">\n\nJim Jordan is a piece of shit. F him.", ">\n\nHow else is trump going to get a look at what evidence the government has?", ">\n\ndiscovery in the court of law, if we're lucky", ">\n\nThe trump nutcases might actually blackmail the GOP into protecting Trump, this is just GREAT :D", ">\n\nDon’t even hide the corruption.", ">\n\nFucking Fascists.", ">\n\nThey want to see hunter’s dick pics.", ">\n\nIt's gotta be this, thanks because I was confused.", ">\n\nIt's not all bad...I like the concession of bringing term limits for congressmen to a floor vote.", ">\n\nNever going to happen. They will never vote themselves out of a comfy job.", ">\n\nTrue...but at least you see how everyone votes.", ">\n\nThey will all vote no.", ">\n\n…That they feel are unfair because they target republicans. Maybe don’t support a corrupt D-list celebrity who literally doesn’t care about anything but himself who tried to illegally stay in power by inciting an insurrection?\nFuck the GOP and their Orwellian horseshit.", ">\n\n\nWell they can investigate but law enforcement has no authority to share details of ongoing investigations and every legal duty to refrain from doing so.\n\nI'm sure there will be challenges to subpoenas and go through the courts. There is a lot Trumpian influence on the Courts still and ultimately if it rises to the highest levels a hard-right conservative block controlling the Supreme Court.", ">\n\ncough Cannon cough Kavanaugh cough Barrett cough cough cough" ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close.", ">\n\nFederal Coverup Center.", ">\n\nThat man is evil.", ">\n\nPeople acting like we don't know how to deal with the house making threats to the executive branch. Ignore subeonas, deny, deflect, then when it reaches the president they obstruct for \"the good of the nation.\" Nothing this house does will matter.", ">\n\nWe're going to get to the bottom of why Democrats keep investigating all the crimes we've been openly committing.", ">\n\n*review.. should say sabotage", ">\n\nSounds to me like this is an erosion of separation of powers and all the judicial branch has to do is refuse to cooperate with them.\nAs read in this article, the judicial branch would be WELL within their rights to refuse to cooperate.\nI know as a citizen of this nation, and the understanding that those in congress are my EMPLOYEES, I insist they cooperate with any investigation into their behavior.", ">\n\nThey will struggle, because these investigations are difficult, time consuming, and require some competence to conduct efficiently. I hope they try to do everything at once.", ">\n\nThe party of domestic terrorism goes right after the investigations of its criminal and seditious leaders and participants.", ">\n\nIt’s just that because of separation of powers they will get no information. They might as well investigate the domestic living conditions of the White House or cabinet members. They simply don’t have legal authority. They already know this. It’s just a piece of trash they came up with.", ">\n\nWe've investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.", ">\n\nBirds of a feather stay together.", ">\n\nthey won’t be able to do anything but it will be on tv all the time, especially during elections", ">\n\nThe J6 Committee adjourned and is no longer \"ongoing\". So ... the GOP wants to \"review\" criminal investigations into their own Members?", ">\n\n\"I DECLARE THE POWER OF OVERSIGHT\"\nThat's not how it works Kevin", ">\n\nThe legislative branch doesn’t really have authority over that sort of stuff. But they’re welcome to try to pass some laws.", ">\n\nJim Jordan is a piece of shit. F him.", ">\n\nHow else is trump going to get a look at what evidence the government has?", ">\n\ndiscovery in the court of law, if we're lucky", ">\n\nThe trump nutcases might actually blackmail the GOP into protecting Trump, this is just GREAT :D", ">\n\nDon’t even hide the corruption.", ">\n\nFucking Fascists.", ">\n\nThey want to see hunter’s dick pics.", ">\n\nIt's gotta be this, thanks because I was confused.", ">\n\nIt's not all bad...I like the concession of bringing term limits for congressmen to a floor vote.", ">\n\nNever going to happen. They will never vote themselves out of a comfy job.", ">\n\nTrue...but at least you see how everyone votes.", ">\n\nThey will all vote no.", ">\n\n…That they feel are unfair because they target republicans. Maybe don’t support a corrupt D-list celebrity who literally doesn’t care about anything but himself who tried to illegally stay in power by inciting an insurrection?\nFuck the GOP and their Orwellian horseshit.", ">\n\n\nWell they can investigate but law enforcement has no authority to share details of ongoing investigations and every legal duty to refrain from doing so.\n\nI'm sure there will be challenges to subpoenas and go through the courts. There is a lot Trumpian influence on the Courts still and ultimately if it rises to the highest levels a hard-right conservative block controlling the Supreme Court.", ">\n\ncough Cannon cough Kavanaugh cough Barrett cough cough cough", ">\n\n'Empowered' how exactly?\nThat is a separate branch of government. What are they going to do? subpoena DOJ witnesses? And when those witnesses thumb their noses at the Congress - then the Congress will make criminal referrals to the DOJ?\nOh yeah - this is going to go great." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close.", ">\n\nFederal Coverup Center.", ">\n\nThat man is evil.", ">\n\nPeople acting like we don't know how to deal with the house making threats to the executive branch. Ignore subeonas, deny, deflect, then when it reaches the president they obstruct for \"the good of the nation.\" Nothing this house does will matter.", ">\n\nWe're going to get to the bottom of why Democrats keep investigating all the crimes we've been openly committing.", ">\n\n*review.. should say sabotage", ">\n\nSounds to me like this is an erosion of separation of powers and all the judicial branch has to do is refuse to cooperate with them.\nAs read in this article, the judicial branch would be WELL within their rights to refuse to cooperate.\nI know as a citizen of this nation, and the understanding that those in congress are my EMPLOYEES, I insist they cooperate with any investigation into their behavior.", ">\n\nThey will struggle, because these investigations are difficult, time consuming, and require some competence to conduct efficiently. I hope they try to do everything at once.", ">\n\nThe party of domestic terrorism goes right after the investigations of its criminal and seditious leaders and participants.", ">\n\nIt’s just that because of separation of powers they will get no information. They might as well investigate the domestic living conditions of the White House or cabinet members. They simply don’t have legal authority. They already know this. It’s just a piece of trash they came up with.", ">\n\nWe've investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.", ">\n\nBirds of a feather stay together.", ">\n\nthey won’t be able to do anything but it will be on tv all the time, especially during elections", ">\n\nThe J6 Committee adjourned and is no longer \"ongoing\". So ... the GOP wants to \"review\" criminal investigations into their own Members?", ">\n\n\"I DECLARE THE POWER OF OVERSIGHT\"\nThat's not how it works Kevin", ">\n\nThe legislative branch doesn’t really have authority over that sort of stuff. But they’re welcome to try to pass some laws.", ">\n\nJim Jordan is a piece of shit. F him.", ">\n\nHow else is trump going to get a look at what evidence the government has?", ">\n\ndiscovery in the court of law, if we're lucky", ">\n\nThe trump nutcases might actually blackmail the GOP into protecting Trump, this is just GREAT :D", ">\n\nDon’t even hide the corruption.", ">\n\nFucking Fascists.", ">\n\nThey want to see hunter’s dick pics.", ">\n\nIt's gotta be this, thanks because I was confused.", ">\n\nIt's not all bad...I like the concession of bringing term limits for congressmen to a floor vote.", ">\n\nNever going to happen. They will never vote themselves out of a comfy job.", ">\n\nTrue...but at least you see how everyone votes.", ">\n\nThey will all vote no.", ">\n\n…That they feel are unfair because they target republicans. Maybe don’t support a corrupt D-list celebrity who literally doesn’t care about anything but himself who tried to illegally stay in power by inciting an insurrection?\nFuck the GOP and their Orwellian horseshit.", ">\n\n\nWell they can investigate but law enforcement has no authority to share details of ongoing investigations and every legal duty to refrain from doing so.\n\nI'm sure there will be challenges to subpoenas and go through the courts. There is a lot Trumpian influence on the Courts still and ultimately if it rises to the highest levels a hard-right conservative block controlling the Supreme Court.", ">\n\ncough Cannon cough Kavanaugh cough Barrett cough cough cough", ">\n\n'Empowered' how exactly?\nThat is a separate branch of government. What are they going to do? subpoena DOJ witnesses? And when those witnesses thumb their noses at the Congress - then the Congress will make criminal referrals to the DOJ?\nOh yeah - this is going to go great.", ">\n\nThe ignorance to what oversight means is astounding!" ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close.", ">\n\nFederal Coverup Center.", ">\n\nThat man is evil.", ">\n\nPeople acting like we don't know how to deal with the house making threats to the executive branch. Ignore subeonas, deny, deflect, then when it reaches the president they obstruct for \"the good of the nation.\" Nothing this house does will matter.", ">\n\nWe're going to get to the bottom of why Democrats keep investigating all the crimes we've been openly committing.", ">\n\n*review.. should say sabotage", ">\n\nSounds to me like this is an erosion of separation of powers and all the judicial branch has to do is refuse to cooperate with them.\nAs read in this article, the judicial branch would be WELL within their rights to refuse to cooperate.\nI know as a citizen of this nation, and the understanding that those in congress are my EMPLOYEES, I insist they cooperate with any investigation into their behavior.", ">\n\nThey will struggle, because these investigations are difficult, time consuming, and require some competence to conduct efficiently. I hope they try to do everything at once.", ">\n\nThe party of domestic terrorism goes right after the investigations of its criminal and seditious leaders and participants.", ">\n\nIt’s just that because of separation of powers they will get no information. They might as well investigate the domestic living conditions of the White House or cabinet members. They simply don’t have legal authority. They already know this. It’s just a piece of trash they came up with.", ">\n\nWe've investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.", ">\n\nBirds of a feather stay together.", ">\n\nthey won’t be able to do anything but it will be on tv all the time, especially during elections", ">\n\nThe J6 Committee adjourned and is no longer \"ongoing\". So ... the GOP wants to \"review\" criminal investigations into their own Members?", ">\n\n\"I DECLARE THE POWER OF OVERSIGHT\"\nThat's not how it works Kevin", ">\n\nThe legislative branch doesn’t really have authority over that sort of stuff. But they’re welcome to try to pass some laws.", ">\n\nJim Jordan is a piece of shit. F him.", ">\n\nHow else is trump going to get a look at what evidence the government has?", ">\n\ndiscovery in the court of law, if we're lucky", ">\n\nThe trump nutcases might actually blackmail the GOP into protecting Trump, this is just GREAT :D", ">\n\nDon’t even hide the corruption.", ">\n\nFucking Fascists.", ">\n\nThey want to see hunter’s dick pics.", ">\n\nIt's gotta be this, thanks because I was confused.", ">\n\nIt's not all bad...I like the concession of bringing term limits for congressmen to a floor vote.", ">\n\nNever going to happen. They will never vote themselves out of a comfy job.", ">\n\nTrue...but at least you see how everyone votes.", ">\n\nThey will all vote no.", ">\n\n…That they feel are unfair because they target republicans. Maybe don’t support a corrupt D-list celebrity who literally doesn’t care about anything but himself who tried to illegally stay in power by inciting an insurrection?\nFuck the GOP and their Orwellian horseshit.", ">\n\n\nWell they can investigate but law enforcement has no authority to share details of ongoing investigations and every legal duty to refrain from doing so.\n\nI'm sure there will be challenges to subpoenas and go through the courts. There is a lot Trumpian influence on the Courts still and ultimately if it rises to the highest levels a hard-right conservative block controlling the Supreme Court.", ">\n\ncough Cannon cough Kavanaugh cough Barrett cough cough cough", ">\n\n'Empowered' how exactly?\nThat is a separate branch of government. What are they going to do? subpoena DOJ witnesses? And when those witnesses thumb their noses at the Congress - then the Congress will make criminal referrals to the DOJ?\nOh yeah - this is going to go great.", ">\n\nThe ignorance to what oversight means is astounding!", ">\n\n“Beep beep beeeeleep beep beep beep…” (Here comes the clown car!”)" ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close.", ">\n\nFederal Coverup Center.", ">\n\nThat man is evil.", ">\n\nPeople acting like we don't know how to deal with the house making threats to the executive branch. Ignore subeonas, deny, deflect, then when it reaches the president they obstruct for \"the good of the nation.\" Nothing this house does will matter.", ">\n\nWe're going to get to the bottom of why Democrats keep investigating all the crimes we've been openly committing.", ">\n\n*review.. should say sabotage", ">\n\nSounds to me like this is an erosion of separation of powers and all the judicial branch has to do is refuse to cooperate with them.\nAs read in this article, the judicial branch would be WELL within their rights to refuse to cooperate.\nI know as a citizen of this nation, and the understanding that those in congress are my EMPLOYEES, I insist they cooperate with any investigation into their behavior.", ">\n\nThey will struggle, because these investigations are difficult, time consuming, and require some competence to conduct efficiently. I hope they try to do everything at once.", ">\n\nThe party of domestic terrorism goes right after the investigations of its criminal and seditious leaders and participants.", ">\n\nIt’s just that because of separation of powers they will get no information. They might as well investigate the domestic living conditions of the White House or cabinet members. They simply don’t have legal authority. They already know this. It’s just a piece of trash they came up with.", ">\n\nWe've investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.", ">\n\nBirds of a feather stay together.", ">\n\nthey won’t be able to do anything but it will be on tv all the time, especially during elections", ">\n\nThe J6 Committee adjourned and is no longer \"ongoing\". So ... the GOP wants to \"review\" criminal investigations into their own Members?", ">\n\n\"I DECLARE THE POWER OF OVERSIGHT\"\nThat's not how it works Kevin", ">\n\nThe legislative branch doesn’t really have authority over that sort of stuff. But they’re welcome to try to pass some laws.", ">\n\nJim Jordan is a piece of shit. F him.", ">\n\nHow else is trump going to get a look at what evidence the government has?", ">\n\ndiscovery in the court of law, if we're lucky", ">\n\nThe trump nutcases might actually blackmail the GOP into protecting Trump, this is just GREAT :D", ">\n\nDon’t even hide the corruption.", ">\n\nFucking Fascists.", ">\n\nThey want to see hunter’s dick pics.", ">\n\nIt's gotta be this, thanks because I was confused.", ">\n\nIt's not all bad...I like the concession of bringing term limits for congressmen to a floor vote.", ">\n\nNever going to happen. They will never vote themselves out of a comfy job.", ">\n\nTrue...but at least you see how everyone votes.", ">\n\nThey will all vote no.", ">\n\n…That they feel are unfair because they target republicans. Maybe don’t support a corrupt D-list celebrity who literally doesn’t care about anything but himself who tried to illegally stay in power by inciting an insurrection?\nFuck the GOP and their Orwellian horseshit.", ">\n\n\nWell they can investigate but law enforcement has no authority to share details of ongoing investigations and every legal duty to refrain from doing so.\n\nI'm sure there will be challenges to subpoenas and go through the courts. There is a lot Trumpian influence on the Courts still and ultimately if it rises to the highest levels a hard-right conservative block controlling the Supreme Court.", ">\n\ncough Cannon cough Kavanaugh cough Barrett cough cough cough", ">\n\n'Empowered' how exactly?\nThat is a separate branch of government. What are they going to do? subpoena DOJ witnesses? And when those witnesses thumb their noses at the Congress - then the Congress will make criminal referrals to the DOJ?\nOh yeah - this is going to go great.", ">\n\nThe ignorance to what oversight means is astounding!", ">\n\n“Beep beep beeeeleep beep beep beep…” (Here comes the clown car!”)", ">\n\nThe committee itself is going to end up convicted of conspiracy to commit fraud" ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close.", ">\n\nFederal Coverup Center.", ">\n\nThat man is evil.", ">\n\nPeople acting like we don't know how to deal with the house making threats to the executive branch. Ignore subeonas, deny, deflect, then when it reaches the president they obstruct for \"the good of the nation.\" Nothing this house does will matter.", ">\n\nWe're going to get to the bottom of why Democrats keep investigating all the crimes we've been openly committing.", ">\n\n*review.. should say sabotage", ">\n\nSounds to me like this is an erosion of separation of powers and all the judicial branch has to do is refuse to cooperate with them.\nAs read in this article, the judicial branch would be WELL within their rights to refuse to cooperate.\nI know as a citizen of this nation, and the understanding that those in congress are my EMPLOYEES, I insist they cooperate with any investigation into their behavior.", ">\n\nThey will struggle, because these investigations are difficult, time consuming, and require some competence to conduct efficiently. I hope they try to do everything at once.", ">\n\nThe party of domestic terrorism goes right after the investigations of its criminal and seditious leaders and participants.", ">\n\nIt’s just that because of separation of powers they will get no information. They might as well investigate the domestic living conditions of the White House or cabinet members. They simply don’t have legal authority. They already know this. It’s just a piece of trash they came up with.", ">\n\nWe've investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.", ">\n\nBirds of a feather stay together.", ">\n\nthey won’t be able to do anything but it will be on tv all the time, especially during elections", ">\n\nThe J6 Committee adjourned and is no longer \"ongoing\". So ... the GOP wants to \"review\" criminal investigations into their own Members?", ">\n\n\"I DECLARE THE POWER OF OVERSIGHT\"\nThat's not how it works Kevin", ">\n\nThe legislative branch doesn’t really have authority over that sort of stuff. But they’re welcome to try to pass some laws.", ">\n\nJim Jordan is a piece of shit. F him.", ">\n\nHow else is trump going to get a look at what evidence the government has?", ">\n\ndiscovery in the court of law, if we're lucky", ">\n\nThe trump nutcases might actually blackmail the GOP into protecting Trump, this is just GREAT :D", ">\n\nDon’t even hide the corruption.", ">\n\nFucking Fascists.", ">\n\nThey want to see hunter’s dick pics.", ">\n\nIt's gotta be this, thanks because I was confused.", ">\n\nIt's not all bad...I like the concession of bringing term limits for congressmen to a floor vote.", ">\n\nNever going to happen. They will never vote themselves out of a comfy job.", ">\n\nTrue...but at least you see how everyone votes.", ">\n\nThey will all vote no.", ">\n\n…That they feel are unfair because they target republicans. Maybe don’t support a corrupt D-list celebrity who literally doesn’t care about anything but himself who tried to illegally stay in power by inciting an insurrection?\nFuck the GOP and their Orwellian horseshit.", ">\n\n\nWell they can investigate but law enforcement has no authority to share details of ongoing investigations and every legal duty to refrain from doing so.\n\nI'm sure there will be challenges to subpoenas and go through the courts. There is a lot Trumpian influence on the Courts still and ultimately if it rises to the highest levels a hard-right conservative block controlling the Supreme Court.", ">\n\ncough Cannon cough Kavanaugh cough Barrett cough cough cough", ">\n\n'Empowered' how exactly?\nThat is a separate branch of government. What are they going to do? subpoena DOJ witnesses? And when those witnesses thumb their noses at the Congress - then the Congress will make criminal referrals to the DOJ?\nOh yeah - this is going to go great.", ">\n\nThe ignorance to what oversight means is astounding!", ">\n\n“Beep beep beeeeleep beep beep beep…” (Here comes the clown car!”)", ">\n\nThe committee itself is going to end up convicted of conspiracy to commit fraud", ">\n\nMore Hillary investigations?" ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close.", ">\n\nFederal Coverup Center.", ">\n\nThat man is evil.", ">\n\nPeople acting like we don't know how to deal with the house making threats to the executive branch. Ignore subeonas, deny, deflect, then when it reaches the president they obstruct for \"the good of the nation.\" Nothing this house does will matter.", ">\n\nWe're going to get to the bottom of why Democrats keep investigating all the crimes we've been openly committing.", ">\n\n*review.. should say sabotage", ">\n\nSounds to me like this is an erosion of separation of powers and all the judicial branch has to do is refuse to cooperate with them.\nAs read in this article, the judicial branch would be WELL within their rights to refuse to cooperate.\nI know as a citizen of this nation, and the understanding that those in congress are my EMPLOYEES, I insist they cooperate with any investigation into their behavior.", ">\n\nThey will struggle, because these investigations are difficult, time consuming, and require some competence to conduct efficiently. I hope they try to do everything at once.", ">\n\nThe party of domestic terrorism goes right after the investigations of its criminal and seditious leaders and participants.", ">\n\nIt’s just that because of separation of powers they will get no information. They might as well investigate the domestic living conditions of the White House or cabinet members. They simply don’t have legal authority. They already know this. It’s just a piece of trash they came up with.", ">\n\nWe've investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.", ">\n\nBirds of a feather stay together.", ">\n\nthey won’t be able to do anything but it will be on tv all the time, especially during elections", ">\n\nThe J6 Committee adjourned and is no longer \"ongoing\". So ... the GOP wants to \"review\" criminal investigations into their own Members?", ">\n\n\"I DECLARE THE POWER OF OVERSIGHT\"\nThat's not how it works Kevin", ">\n\nThe legislative branch doesn’t really have authority over that sort of stuff. But they’re welcome to try to pass some laws.", ">\n\nJim Jordan is a piece of shit. F him.", ">\n\nHow else is trump going to get a look at what evidence the government has?", ">\n\ndiscovery in the court of law, if we're lucky", ">\n\nThe trump nutcases might actually blackmail the GOP into protecting Trump, this is just GREAT :D", ">\n\nDon’t even hide the corruption.", ">\n\nFucking Fascists.", ">\n\nThey want to see hunter’s dick pics.", ">\n\nIt's gotta be this, thanks because I was confused.", ">\n\nIt's not all bad...I like the concession of bringing term limits for congressmen to a floor vote.", ">\n\nNever going to happen. They will never vote themselves out of a comfy job.", ">\n\nTrue...but at least you see how everyone votes.", ">\n\nThey will all vote no.", ">\n\n…That they feel are unfair because they target republicans. Maybe don’t support a corrupt D-list celebrity who literally doesn’t care about anything but himself who tried to illegally stay in power by inciting an insurrection?\nFuck the GOP and their Orwellian horseshit.", ">\n\n\nWell they can investigate but law enforcement has no authority to share details of ongoing investigations and every legal duty to refrain from doing so.\n\nI'm sure there will be challenges to subpoenas and go through the courts. There is a lot Trumpian influence on the Courts still and ultimately if it rises to the highest levels a hard-right conservative block controlling the Supreme Court.", ">\n\ncough Cannon cough Kavanaugh cough Barrett cough cough cough", ">\n\n'Empowered' how exactly?\nThat is a separate branch of government. What are they going to do? subpoena DOJ witnesses? And when those witnesses thumb their noses at the Congress - then the Congress will make criminal referrals to the DOJ?\nOh yeah - this is going to go great.", ">\n\nThe ignorance to what oversight means is astounding!", ">\n\n“Beep beep beeeeleep beep beep beep…” (Here comes the clown car!”)", ">\n\nThe committee itself is going to end up convicted of conspiracy to commit fraud", ">\n\nMore Hillary investigations?", ">\n\n... into themselves." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close.", ">\n\nFederal Coverup Center.", ">\n\nThat man is evil.", ">\n\nPeople acting like we don't know how to deal with the house making threats to the executive branch. Ignore subeonas, deny, deflect, then when it reaches the president they obstruct for \"the good of the nation.\" Nothing this house does will matter.", ">\n\nWe're going to get to the bottom of why Democrats keep investigating all the crimes we've been openly committing.", ">\n\n*review.. should say sabotage", ">\n\nSounds to me like this is an erosion of separation of powers and all the judicial branch has to do is refuse to cooperate with them.\nAs read in this article, the judicial branch would be WELL within their rights to refuse to cooperate.\nI know as a citizen of this nation, and the understanding that those in congress are my EMPLOYEES, I insist they cooperate with any investigation into their behavior.", ">\n\nThey will struggle, because these investigations are difficult, time consuming, and require some competence to conduct efficiently. I hope they try to do everything at once.", ">\n\nThe party of domestic terrorism goes right after the investigations of its criminal and seditious leaders and participants.", ">\n\nIt’s just that because of separation of powers they will get no information. They might as well investigate the domestic living conditions of the White House or cabinet members. They simply don’t have legal authority. They already know this. It’s just a piece of trash they came up with.", ">\n\nWe've investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.", ">\n\nBirds of a feather stay together.", ">\n\nthey won’t be able to do anything but it will be on tv all the time, especially during elections", ">\n\nThe J6 Committee adjourned and is no longer \"ongoing\". So ... the GOP wants to \"review\" criminal investigations into their own Members?", ">\n\n\"I DECLARE THE POWER OF OVERSIGHT\"\nThat's not how it works Kevin", ">\n\nThe legislative branch doesn’t really have authority over that sort of stuff. But they’re welcome to try to pass some laws.", ">\n\nJim Jordan is a piece of shit. F him.", ">\n\nHow else is trump going to get a look at what evidence the government has?", ">\n\ndiscovery in the court of law, if we're lucky", ">\n\nThe trump nutcases might actually blackmail the GOP into protecting Trump, this is just GREAT :D", ">\n\nDon’t even hide the corruption.", ">\n\nFucking Fascists.", ">\n\nThey want to see hunter’s dick pics.", ">\n\nIt's gotta be this, thanks because I was confused.", ">\n\nIt's not all bad...I like the concession of bringing term limits for congressmen to a floor vote.", ">\n\nNever going to happen. They will never vote themselves out of a comfy job.", ">\n\nTrue...but at least you see how everyone votes.", ">\n\nThey will all vote no.", ">\n\n…That they feel are unfair because they target republicans. Maybe don’t support a corrupt D-list celebrity who literally doesn’t care about anything but himself who tried to illegally stay in power by inciting an insurrection?\nFuck the GOP and their Orwellian horseshit.", ">\n\n\nWell they can investigate but law enforcement has no authority to share details of ongoing investigations and every legal duty to refrain from doing so.\n\nI'm sure there will be challenges to subpoenas and go through the courts. There is a lot Trumpian influence on the Courts still and ultimately if it rises to the highest levels a hard-right conservative block controlling the Supreme Court.", ">\n\ncough Cannon cough Kavanaugh cough Barrett cough cough cough", ">\n\n'Empowered' how exactly?\nThat is a separate branch of government. What are they going to do? subpoena DOJ witnesses? And when those witnesses thumb their noses at the Congress - then the Congress will make criminal referrals to the DOJ?\nOh yeah - this is going to go great.", ">\n\nThe ignorance to what oversight means is astounding!", ">\n\n“Beep beep beeeeleep beep beep beep…” (Here comes the clown car!”)", ">\n\nThe committee itself is going to end up convicted of conspiracy to commit fraud", ">\n\nMore Hillary investigations?", ">\n\n... into themselves.", ">\n\nSo the circus clown show begins" ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close.", ">\n\nFederal Coverup Center.", ">\n\nThat man is evil.", ">\n\nPeople acting like we don't know how to deal with the house making threats to the executive branch. Ignore subeonas, deny, deflect, then when it reaches the president they obstruct for \"the good of the nation.\" Nothing this house does will matter.", ">\n\nWe're going to get to the bottom of why Democrats keep investigating all the crimes we've been openly committing.", ">\n\n*review.. should say sabotage", ">\n\nSounds to me like this is an erosion of separation of powers and all the judicial branch has to do is refuse to cooperate with them.\nAs read in this article, the judicial branch would be WELL within their rights to refuse to cooperate.\nI know as a citizen of this nation, and the understanding that those in congress are my EMPLOYEES, I insist they cooperate with any investigation into their behavior.", ">\n\nThey will struggle, because these investigations are difficult, time consuming, and require some competence to conduct efficiently. I hope they try to do everything at once.", ">\n\nThe party of domestic terrorism goes right after the investigations of its criminal and seditious leaders and participants.", ">\n\nIt’s just that because of separation of powers they will get no information. They might as well investigate the domestic living conditions of the White House or cabinet members. They simply don’t have legal authority. They already know this. It’s just a piece of trash they came up with.", ">\n\nWe've investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.", ">\n\nBirds of a feather stay together.", ">\n\nthey won’t be able to do anything but it will be on tv all the time, especially during elections", ">\n\nThe J6 Committee adjourned and is no longer \"ongoing\". So ... the GOP wants to \"review\" criminal investigations into their own Members?", ">\n\n\"I DECLARE THE POWER OF OVERSIGHT\"\nThat's not how it works Kevin", ">\n\nThe legislative branch doesn’t really have authority over that sort of stuff. But they’re welcome to try to pass some laws.", ">\n\nJim Jordan is a piece of shit. F him.", ">\n\nHow else is trump going to get a look at what evidence the government has?", ">\n\ndiscovery in the court of law, if we're lucky", ">\n\nThe trump nutcases might actually blackmail the GOP into protecting Trump, this is just GREAT :D", ">\n\nDon’t even hide the corruption.", ">\n\nFucking Fascists.", ">\n\nThey want to see hunter’s dick pics.", ">\n\nIt's gotta be this, thanks because I was confused.", ">\n\nIt's not all bad...I like the concession of bringing term limits for congressmen to a floor vote.", ">\n\nNever going to happen. They will never vote themselves out of a comfy job.", ">\n\nTrue...but at least you see how everyone votes.", ">\n\nThey will all vote no.", ">\n\n…That they feel are unfair because they target republicans. Maybe don’t support a corrupt D-list celebrity who literally doesn’t care about anything but himself who tried to illegally stay in power by inciting an insurrection?\nFuck the GOP and their Orwellian horseshit.", ">\n\n\nWell they can investigate but law enforcement has no authority to share details of ongoing investigations and every legal duty to refrain from doing so.\n\nI'm sure there will be challenges to subpoenas and go through the courts. There is a lot Trumpian influence on the Courts still and ultimately if it rises to the highest levels a hard-right conservative block controlling the Supreme Court.", ">\n\ncough Cannon cough Kavanaugh cough Barrett cough cough cough", ">\n\n'Empowered' how exactly?\nThat is a separate branch of government. What are they going to do? subpoena DOJ witnesses? And when those witnesses thumb their noses at the Congress - then the Congress will make criminal referrals to the DOJ?\nOh yeah - this is going to go great.", ">\n\nThe ignorance to what oversight means is astounding!", ">\n\n“Beep beep beeeeleep beep beep beep…” (Here comes the clown car!”)", ">\n\nThe committee itself is going to end up convicted of conspiracy to commit fraud", ">\n\nMore Hillary investigations?", ">\n\n... into themselves.", ">\n\nSo the circus clown show begins", ">\n\nWhat traitorous clowns!!!" ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close.", ">\n\nFederal Coverup Center.", ">\n\nThat man is evil.", ">\n\nPeople acting like we don't know how to deal with the house making threats to the executive branch. Ignore subeonas, deny, deflect, then when it reaches the president they obstruct for \"the good of the nation.\" Nothing this house does will matter.", ">\n\nWe're going to get to the bottom of why Democrats keep investigating all the crimes we've been openly committing.", ">\n\n*review.. should say sabotage", ">\n\nSounds to me like this is an erosion of separation of powers and all the judicial branch has to do is refuse to cooperate with them.\nAs read in this article, the judicial branch would be WELL within their rights to refuse to cooperate.\nI know as a citizen of this nation, and the understanding that those in congress are my EMPLOYEES, I insist they cooperate with any investigation into their behavior.", ">\n\nThey will struggle, because these investigations are difficult, time consuming, and require some competence to conduct efficiently. I hope they try to do everything at once.", ">\n\nThe party of domestic terrorism goes right after the investigations of its criminal and seditious leaders and participants.", ">\n\nIt’s just that because of separation of powers they will get no information. They might as well investigate the domestic living conditions of the White House or cabinet members. They simply don’t have legal authority. They already know this. It’s just a piece of trash they came up with.", ">\n\nWe've investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.", ">\n\nBirds of a feather stay together.", ">\n\nthey won’t be able to do anything but it will be on tv all the time, especially during elections", ">\n\nThe J6 Committee adjourned and is no longer \"ongoing\". So ... the GOP wants to \"review\" criminal investigations into their own Members?", ">\n\n\"I DECLARE THE POWER OF OVERSIGHT\"\nThat's not how it works Kevin", ">\n\nThe legislative branch doesn’t really have authority over that sort of stuff. But they’re welcome to try to pass some laws.", ">\n\nJim Jordan is a piece of shit. F him.", ">\n\nHow else is trump going to get a look at what evidence the government has?", ">\n\ndiscovery in the court of law, if we're lucky", ">\n\nThe trump nutcases might actually blackmail the GOP into protecting Trump, this is just GREAT :D", ">\n\nDon’t even hide the corruption.", ">\n\nFucking Fascists.", ">\n\nThey want to see hunter’s dick pics.", ">\n\nIt's gotta be this, thanks because I was confused.", ">\n\nIt's not all bad...I like the concession of bringing term limits for congressmen to a floor vote.", ">\n\nNever going to happen. They will never vote themselves out of a comfy job.", ">\n\nTrue...but at least you see how everyone votes.", ">\n\nThey will all vote no.", ">\n\n…That they feel are unfair because they target republicans. Maybe don’t support a corrupt D-list celebrity who literally doesn’t care about anything but himself who tried to illegally stay in power by inciting an insurrection?\nFuck the GOP and their Orwellian horseshit.", ">\n\n\nWell they can investigate but law enforcement has no authority to share details of ongoing investigations and every legal duty to refrain from doing so.\n\nI'm sure there will be challenges to subpoenas and go through the courts. There is a lot Trumpian influence on the Courts still and ultimately if it rises to the highest levels a hard-right conservative block controlling the Supreme Court.", ">\n\ncough Cannon cough Kavanaugh cough Barrett cough cough cough", ">\n\n'Empowered' how exactly?\nThat is a separate branch of government. What are they going to do? subpoena DOJ witnesses? And when those witnesses thumb their noses at the Congress - then the Congress will make criminal referrals to the DOJ?\nOh yeah - this is going to go great.", ">\n\nThe ignorance to what oversight means is astounding!", ">\n\n“Beep beep beeeeleep beep beep beep…” (Here comes the clown car!”)", ">\n\nThe committee itself is going to end up convicted of conspiracy to commit fraud", ">\n\nMore Hillary investigations?", ">\n\n... into themselves.", ">\n\nSo the circus clown show begins", ">\n\nWhat traitorous clowns!!!", ">\n\nDestroy the GOP" ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close.", ">\n\nFederal Coverup Center.", ">\n\nThat man is evil.", ">\n\nPeople acting like we don't know how to deal with the house making threats to the executive branch. Ignore subeonas, deny, deflect, then when it reaches the president they obstruct for \"the good of the nation.\" Nothing this house does will matter.", ">\n\nWe're going to get to the bottom of why Democrats keep investigating all the crimes we've been openly committing.", ">\n\n*review.. should say sabotage", ">\n\nSounds to me like this is an erosion of separation of powers and all the judicial branch has to do is refuse to cooperate with them.\nAs read in this article, the judicial branch would be WELL within their rights to refuse to cooperate.\nI know as a citizen of this nation, and the understanding that those in congress are my EMPLOYEES, I insist they cooperate with any investigation into their behavior.", ">\n\nThey will struggle, because these investigations are difficult, time consuming, and require some competence to conduct efficiently. I hope they try to do everything at once.", ">\n\nThe party of domestic terrorism goes right after the investigations of its criminal and seditious leaders and participants.", ">\n\nIt’s just that because of separation of powers they will get no information. They might as well investigate the domestic living conditions of the White House or cabinet members. They simply don’t have legal authority. They already know this. It’s just a piece of trash they came up with.", ">\n\nWe've investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.", ">\n\nBirds of a feather stay together.", ">\n\nthey won’t be able to do anything but it will be on tv all the time, especially during elections", ">\n\nThe J6 Committee adjourned and is no longer \"ongoing\". So ... the GOP wants to \"review\" criminal investigations into their own Members?", ">\n\n\"I DECLARE THE POWER OF OVERSIGHT\"\nThat's not how it works Kevin", ">\n\nThe legislative branch doesn’t really have authority over that sort of stuff. But they’re welcome to try to pass some laws.", ">\n\nJim Jordan is a piece of shit. F him.", ">\n\nHow else is trump going to get a look at what evidence the government has?", ">\n\ndiscovery in the court of law, if we're lucky", ">\n\nThe trump nutcases might actually blackmail the GOP into protecting Trump, this is just GREAT :D", ">\n\nDon’t even hide the corruption.", ">\n\nFucking Fascists.", ">\n\nThey want to see hunter’s dick pics.", ">\n\nIt's gotta be this, thanks because I was confused.", ">\n\nIt's not all bad...I like the concession of bringing term limits for congressmen to a floor vote.", ">\n\nNever going to happen. They will never vote themselves out of a comfy job.", ">\n\nTrue...but at least you see how everyone votes.", ">\n\nThey will all vote no.", ">\n\n…That they feel are unfair because they target republicans. Maybe don’t support a corrupt D-list celebrity who literally doesn’t care about anything but himself who tried to illegally stay in power by inciting an insurrection?\nFuck the GOP and their Orwellian horseshit.", ">\n\n\nWell they can investigate but law enforcement has no authority to share details of ongoing investigations and every legal duty to refrain from doing so.\n\nI'm sure there will be challenges to subpoenas and go through the courts. There is a lot Trumpian influence on the Courts still and ultimately if it rises to the highest levels a hard-right conservative block controlling the Supreme Court.", ">\n\ncough Cannon cough Kavanaugh cough Barrett cough cough cough", ">\n\n'Empowered' how exactly?\nThat is a separate branch of government. What are they going to do? subpoena DOJ witnesses? And when those witnesses thumb their noses at the Congress - then the Congress will make criminal referrals to the DOJ?\nOh yeah - this is going to go great.", ">\n\nThe ignorance to what oversight means is astounding!", ">\n\n“Beep beep beeeeleep beep beep beep…” (Here comes the clown car!”)", ">\n\nThe committee itself is going to end up convicted of conspiracy to commit fraud", ">\n\nMore Hillary investigations?", ">\n\n... into themselves.", ">\n\nSo the circus clown show begins", ">\n\nWhat traitorous clowns!!!", ">\n\nDestroy the GOP", ">\n\nNice headline\nBut they aren’t ‘empowered’ to do Jack shit. \nDOJ is a separate branch and as we learned from Trump there is zero enforcement of a subpoena \nAl they can try and do is shut the govt down." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close.", ">\n\nFederal Coverup Center.", ">\n\nThat man is evil.", ">\n\nPeople acting like we don't know how to deal with the house making threats to the executive branch. Ignore subeonas, deny, deflect, then when it reaches the president they obstruct for \"the good of the nation.\" Nothing this house does will matter.", ">\n\nWe're going to get to the bottom of why Democrats keep investigating all the crimes we've been openly committing.", ">\n\n*review.. should say sabotage", ">\n\nSounds to me like this is an erosion of separation of powers and all the judicial branch has to do is refuse to cooperate with them.\nAs read in this article, the judicial branch would be WELL within their rights to refuse to cooperate.\nI know as a citizen of this nation, and the understanding that those in congress are my EMPLOYEES, I insist they cooperate with any investigation into their behavior.", ">\n\nThey will struggle, because these investigations are difficult, time consuming, and require some competence to conduct efficiently. I hope they try to do everything at once.", ">\n\nThe party of domestic terrorism goes right after the investigations of its criminal and seditious leaders and participants.", ">\n\nIt’s just that because of separation of powers they will get no information. They might as well investigate the domestic living conditions of the White House or cabinet members. They simply don’t have legal authority. They already know this. It’s just a piece of trash they came up with.", ">\n\nWe've investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.", ">\n\nBirds of a feather stay together.", ">\n\nthey won’t be able to do anything but it will be on tv all the time, especially during elections", ">\n\nThe J6 Committee adjourned and is no longer \"ongoing\". So ... the GOP wants to \"review\" criminal investigations into their own Members?", ">\n\n\"I DECLARE THE POWER OF OVERSIGHT\"\nThat's not how it works Kevin", ">\n\nThe legislative branch doesn’t really have authority over that sort of stuff. But they’re welcome to try to pass some laws.", ">\n\nJim Jordan is a piece of shit. F him.", ">\n\nHow else is trump going to get a look at what evidence the government has?", ">\n\ndiscovery in the court of law, if we're lucky", ">\n\nThe trump nutcases might actually blackmail the GOP into protecting Trump, this is just GREAT :D", ">\n\nDon’t even hide the corruption.", ">\n\nFucking Fascists.", ">\n\nThey want to see hunter’s dick pics.", ">\n\nIt's gotta be this, thanks because I was confused.", ">\n\nIt's not all bad...I like the concession of bringing term limits for congressmen to a floor vote.", ">\n\nNever going to happen. They will never vote themselves out of a comfy job.", ">\n\nTrue...but at least you see how everyone votes.", ">\n\nThey will all vote no.", ">\n\n…That they feel are unfair because they target republicans. Maybe don’t support a corrupt D-list celebrity who literally doesn’t care about anything but himself who tried to illegally stay in power by inciting an insurrection?\nFuck the GOP and their Orwellian horseshit.", ">\n\n\nWell they can investigate but law enforcement has no authority to share details of ongoing investigations and every legal duty to refrain from doing so.\n\nI'm sure there will be challenges to subpoenas and go through the courts. There is a lot Trumpian influence on the Courts still and ultimately if it rises to the highest levels a hard-right conservative block controlling the Supreme Court.", ">\n\ncough Cannon cough Kavanaugh cough Barrett cough cough cough", ">\n\n'Empowered' how exactly?\nThat is a separate branch of government. What are they going to do? subpoena DOJ witnesses? And when those witnesses thumb their noses at the Congress - then the Congress will make criminal referrals to the DOJ?\nOh yeah - this is going to go great.", ">\n\nThe ignorance to what oversight means is astounding!", ">\n\n“Beep beep beeeeleep beep beep beep…” (Here comes the clown car!”)", ">\n\nThe committee itself is going to end up convicted of conspiracy to commit fraud", ">\n\nMore Hillary investigations?", ">\n\n... into themselves.", ">\n\nSo the circus clown show begins", ">\n\nWhat traitorous clowns!!!", ">\n\nDestroy the GOP", ">\n\nNice headline\nBut they aren’t ‘empowered’ to do Jack shit. \nDOJ is a separate branch and as we learned from Trump there is zero enforcement of a subpoena \nAl they can try and do is shut the govt down.", ">\n\nLol they don’t have oversight of active criminal investigations." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close.", ">\n\nFederal Coverup Center.", ">\n\nThat man is evil.", ">\n\nPeople acting like we don't know how to deal with the house making threats to the executive branch. Ignore subeonas, deny, deflect, then when it reaches the president they obstruct for \"the good of the nation.\" Nothing this house does will matter.", ">\n\nWe're going to get to the bottom of why Democrats keep investigating all the crimes we've been openly committing.", ">\n\n*review.. should say sabotage", ">\n\nSounds to me like this is an erosion of separation of powers and all the judicial branch has to do is refuse to cooperate with them.\nAs read in this article, the judicial branch would be WELL within their rights to refuse to cooperate.\nI know as a citizen of this nation, and the understanding that those in congress are my EMPLOYEES, I insist they cooperate with any investigation into their behavior.", ">\n\nThey will struggle, because these investigations are difficult, time consuming, and require some competence to conduct efficiently. I hope they try to do everything at once.", ">\n\nThe party of domestic terrorism goes right after the investigations of its criminal and seditious leaders and participants.", ">\n\nIt’s just that because of separation of powers they will get no information. They might as well investigate the domestic living conditions of the White House or cabinet members. They simply don’t have legal authority. They already know this. It’s just a piece of trash they came up with.", ">\n\nWe've investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.", ">\n\nBirds of a feather stay together.", ">\n\nthey won’t be able to do anything but it will be on tv all the time, especially during elections", ">\n\nThe J6 Committee adjourned and is no longer \"ongoing\". So ... the GOP wants to \"review\" criminal investigations into their own Members?", ">\n\n\"I DECLARE THE POWER OF OVERSIGHT\"\nThat's not how it works Kevin", ">\n\nThe legislative branch doesn’t really have authority over that sort of stuff. But they’re welcome to try to pass some laws.", ">\n\nJim Jordan is a piece of shit. F him.", ">\n\nHow else is trump going to get a look at what evidence the government has?", ">\n\ndiscovery in the court of law, if we're lucky", ">\n\nThe trump nutcases might actually blackmail the GOP into protecting Trump, this is just GREAT :D", ">\n\nDon’t even hide the corruption.", ">\n\nFucking Fascists.", ">\n\nThey want to see hunter’s dick pics.", ">\n\nIt's gotta be this, thanks because I was confused.", ">\n\nIt's not all bad...I like the concession of bringing term limits for congressmen to a floor vote.", ">\n\nNever going to happen. They will never vote themselves out of a comfy job.", ">\n\nTrue...but at least you see how everyone votes.", ">\n\nThey will all vote no.", ">\n\n…That they feel are unfair because they target republicans. Maybe don’t support a corrupt D-list celebrity who literally doesn’t care about anything but himself who tried to illegally stay in power by inciting an insurrection?\nFuck the GOP and their Orwellian horseshit.", ">\n\n\nWell they can investigate but law enforcement has no authority to share details of ongoing investigations and every legal duty to refrain from doing so.\n\nI'm sure there will be challenges to subpoenas and go through the courts. There is a lot Trumpian influence on the Courts still and ultimately if it rises to the highest levels a hard-right conservative block controlling the Supreme Court.", ">\n\ncough Cannon cough Kavanaugh cough Barrett cough cough cough", ">\n\n'Empowered' how exactly?\nThat is a separate branch of government. What are they going to do? subpoena DOJ witnesses? And when those witnesses thumb their noses at the Congress - then the Congress will make criminal referrals to the DOJ?\nOh yeah - this is going to go great.", ">\n\nThe ignorance to what oversight means is astounding!", ">\n\n“Beep beep beeeeleep beep beep beep…” (Here comes the clown car!”)", ">\n\nThe committee itself is going to end up convicted of conspiracy to commit fraud", ">\n\nMore Hillary investigations?", ">\n\n... into themselves.", ">\n\nSo the circus clown show begins", ">\n\nWhat traitorous clowns!!!", ">\n\nDestroy the GOP", ">\n\nNice headline\nBut they aren’t ‘empowered’ to do Jack shit. \nDOJ is a separate branch and as we learned from Trump there is zero enforcement of a subpoena \nAl they can try and do is shut the govt down.", ">\n\nLol they don’t have oversight of active criminal investigations.", ">\n\nNo, they say they would be. Just saying it does not make it true, even in GQP land." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close.", ">\n\nFederal Coverup Center.", ">\n\nThat man is evil.", ">\n\nPeople acting like we don't know how to deal with the house making threats to the executive branch. Ignore subeonas, deny, deflect, then when it reaches the president they obstruct for \"the good of the nation.\" Nothing this house does will matter.", ">\n\nWe're going to get to the bottom of why Democrats keep investigating all the crimes we've been openly committing.", ">\n\n*review.. should say sabotage", ">\n\nSounds to me like this is an erosion of separation of powers and all the judicial branch has to do is refuse to cooperate with them.\nAs read in this article, the judicial branch would be WELL within their rights to refuse to cooperate.\nI know as a citizen of this nation, and the understanding that those in congress are my EMPLOYEES, I insist they cooperate with any investigation into their behavior.", ">\n\nThey will struggle, because these investigations are difficult, time consuming, and require some competence to conduct efficiently. I hope they try to do everything at once.", ">\n\nThe party of domestic terrorism goes right after the investigations of its criminal and seditious leaders and participants.", ">\n\nIt’s just that because of separation of powers they will get no information. They might as well investigate the domestic living conditions of the White House or cabinet members. They simply don’t have legal authority. They already know this. It’s just a piece of trash they came up with.", ">\n\nWe've investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.", ">\n\nBirds of a feather stay together.", ">\n\nthey won’t be able to do anything but it will be on tv all the time, especially during elections", ">\n\nThe J6 Committee adjourned and is no longer \"ongoing\". So ... the GOP wants to \"review\" criminal investigations into their own Members?", ">\n\n\"I DECLARE THE POWER OF OVERSIGHT\"\nThat's not how it works Kevin", ">\n\nThe legislative branch doesn’t really have authority over that sort of stuff. But they’re welcome to try to pass some laws.", ">\n\nJim Jordan is a piece of shit. F him.", ">\n\nHow else is trump going to get a look at what evidence the government has?", ">\n\ndiscovery in the court of law, if we're lucky", ">\n\nThe trump nutcases might actually blackmail the GOP into protecting Trump, this is just GREAT :D", ">\n\nDon’t even hide the corruption.", ">\n\nFucking Fascists.", ">\n\nThey want to see hunter’s dick pics.", ">\n\nIt's gotta be this, thanks because I was confused.", ">\n\nIt's not all bad...I like the concession of bringing term limits for congressmen to a floor vote.", ">\n\nNever going to happen. They will never vote themselves out of a comfy job.", ">\n\nTrue...but at least you see how everyone votes.", ">\n\nThey will all vote no.", ">\n\n…That they feel are unfair because they target republicans. Maybe don’t support a corrupt D-list celebrity who literally doesn’t care about anything but himself who tried to illegally stay in power by inciting an insurrection?\nFuck the GOP and their Orwellian horseshit.", ">\n\n\nWell they can investigate but law enforcement has no authority to share details of ongoing investigations and every legal duty to refrain from doing so.\n\nI'm sure there will be challenges to subpoenas and go through the courts. There is a lot Trumpian influence on the Courts still and ultimately if it rises to the highest levels a hard-right conservative block controlling the Supreme Court.", ">\n\ncough Cannon cough Kavanaugh cough Barrett cough cough cough", ">\n\n'Empowered' how exactly?\nThat is a separate branch of government. What are they going to do? subpoena DOJ witnesses? And when those witnesses thumb their noses at the Congress - then the Congress will make criminal referrals to the DOJ?\nOh yeah - this is going to go great.", ">\n\nThe ignorance to what oversight means is astounding!", ">\n\n“Beep beep beeeeleep beep beep beep…” (Here comes the clown car!”)", ">\n\nThe committee itself is going to end up convicted of conspiracy to commit fraud", ">\n\nMore Hillary investigations?", ">\n\n... into themselves.", ">\n\nSo the circus clown show begins", ">\n\nWhat traitorous clowns!!!", ">\n\nDestroy the GOP", ">\n\nNice headline\nBut they aren’t ‘empowered’ to do Jack shit. \nDOJ is a separate branch and as we learned from Trump there is zero enforcement of a subpoena \nAl they can try and do is shut the govt down.", ">\n\nLol they don’t have oversight of active criminal investigations.", ">\n\nNo, they say they would be. Just saying it does not make it true, even in GQP land.", ">\n\nSo Republicans are protecting themselves from Justice Department investigating their sedition and insurrection." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close.", ">\n\nFederal Coverup Center.", ">\n\nThat man is evil.", ">\n\nPeople acting like we don't know how to deal with the house making threats to the executive branch. Ignore subeonas, deny, deflect, then when it reaches the president they obstruct for \"the good of the nation.\" Nothing this house does will matter.", ">\n\nWe're going to get to the bottom of why Democrats keep investigating all the crimes we've been openly committing.", ">\n\n*review.. should say sabotage", ">\n\nSounds to me like this is an erosion of separation of powers and all the judicial branch has to do is refuse to cooperate with them.\nAs read in this article, the judicial branch would be WELL within their rights to refuse to cooperate.\nI know as a citizen of this nation, and the understanding that those in congress are my EMPLOYEES, I insist they cooperate with any investigation into their behavior.", ">\n\nThey will struggle, because these investigations are difficult, time consuming, and require some competence to conduct efficiently. I hope they try to do everything at once.", ">\n\nThe party of domestic terrorism goes right after the investigations of its criminal and seditious leaders and participants.", ">\n\nIt’s just that because of separation of powers they will get no information. They might as well investigate the domestic living conditions of the White House or cabinet members. They simply don’t have legal authority. They already know this. It’s just a piece of trash they came up with.", ">\n\nWe've investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.", ">\n\nBirds of a feather stay together.", ">\n\nthey won’t be able to do anything but it will be on tv all the time, especially during elections", ">\n\nThe J6 Committee adjourned and is no longer \"ongoing\". So ... the GOP wants to \"review\" criminal investigations into their own Members?", ">\n\n\"I DECLARE THE POWER OF OVERSIGHT\"\nThat's not how it works Kevin", ">\n\nThe legislative branch doesn’t really have authority over that sort of stuff. But they’re welcome to try to pass some laws.", ">\n\nJim Jordan is a piece of shit. F him.", ">\n\nHow else is trump going to get a look at what evidence the government has?", ">\n\ndiscovery in the court of law, if we're lucky", ">\n\nThe trump nutcases might actually blackmail the GOP into protecting Trump, this is just GREAT :D", ">\n\nDon’t even hide the corruption.", ">\n\nFucking Fascists.", ">\n\nThey want to see hunter’s dick pics.", ">\n\nIt's gotta be this, thanks because I was confused.", ">\n\nIt's not all bad...I like the concession of bringing term limits for congressmen to a floor vote.", ">\n\nNever going to happen. They will never vote themselves out of a comfy job.", ">\n\nTrue...but at least you see how everyone votes.", ">\n\nThey will all vote no.", ">\n\n…That they feel are unfair because they target republicans. Maybe don’t support a corrupt D-list celebrity who literally doesn’t care about anything but himself who tried to illegally stay in power by inciting an insurrection?\nFuck the GOP and their Orwellian horseshit.", ">\n\n\nWell they can investigate but law enforcement has no authority to share details of ongoing investigations and every legal duty to refrain from doing so.\n\nI'm sure there will be challenges to subpoenas and go through the courts. There is a lot Trumpian influence on the Courts still and ultimately if it rises to the highest levels a hard-right conservative block controlling the Supreme Court.", ">\n\ncough Cannon cough Kavanaugh cough Barrett cough cough cough", ">\n\n'Empowered' how exactly?\nThat is a separate branch of government. What are they going to do? subpoena DOJ witnesses? And when those witnesses thumb their noses at the Congress - then the Congress will make criminal referrals to the DOJ?\nOh yeah - this is going to go great.", ">\n\nThe ignorance to what oversight means is astounding!", ">\n\n“Beep beep beeeeleep beep beep beep…” (Here comes the clown car!”)", ">\n\nThe committee itself is going to end up convicted of conspiracy to commit fraud", ">\n\nMore Hillary investigations?", ">\n\n... into themselves.", ">\n\nSo the circus clown show begins", ">\n\nWhat traitorous clowns!!!", ">\n\nDestroy the GOP", ">\n\nNice headline\nBut they aren’t ‘empowered’ to do Jack shit. \nDOJ is a separate branch and as we learned from Trump there is zero enforcement of a subpoena \nAl they can try and do is shut the govt down.", ">\n\nLol they don’t have oversight of active criminal investigations.", ">\n\nNo, they say they would be. Just saying it does not make it true, even in GQP land.", ">\n\nSo Republicans are protecting themselves from Justice Department investigating their sedition and insurrection.", ">\n\nSpeaker McCarthy, living up to his namesake." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close.", ">\n\nFederal Coverup Center.", ">\n\nThat man is evil.", ">\n\nPeople acting like we don't know how to deal with the house making threats to the executive branch. Ignore subeonas, deny, deflect, then when it reaches the president they obstruct for \"the good of the nation.\" Nothing this house does will matter.", ">\n\nWe're going to get to the bottom of why Democrats keep investigating all the crimes we've been openly committing.", ">\n\n*review.. should say sabotage", ">\n\nSounds to me like this is an erosion of separation of powers and all the judicial branch has to do is refuse to cooperate with them.\nAs read in this article, the judicial branch would be WELL within their rights to refuse to cooperate.\nI know as a citizen of this nation, and the understanding that those in congress are my EMPLOYEES, I insist they cooperate with any investigation into their behavior.", ">\n\nThey will struggle, because these investigations are difficult, time consuming, and require some competence to conduct efficiently. I hope they try to do everything at once.", ">\n\nThe party of domestic terrorism goes right after the investigations of its criminal and seditious leaders and participants.", ">\n\nIt’s just that because of separation of powers they will get no information. They might as well investigate the domestic living conditions of the White House or cabinet members. They simply don’t have legal authority. They already know this. It’s just a piece of trash they came up with.", ">\n\nWe've investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.", ">\n\nBirds of a feather stay together.", ">\n\nthey won’t be able to do anything but it will be on tv all the time, especially during elections", ">\n\nThe J6 Committee adjourned and is no longer \"ongoing\". So ... the GOP wants to \"review\" criminal investigations into their own Members?", ">\n\n\"I DECLARE THE POWER OF OVERSIGHT\"\nThat's not how it works Kevin", ">\n\nThe legislative branch doesn’t really have authority over that sort of stuff. But they’re welcome to try to pass some laws.", ">\n\nJim Jordan is a piece of shit. F him.", ">\n\nHow else is trump going to get a look at what evidence the government has?", ">\n\ndiscovery in the court of law, if we're lucky", ">\n\nThe trump nutcases might actually blackmail the GOP into protecting Trump, this is just GREAT :D", ">\n\nDon’t even hide the corruption.", ">\n\nFucking Fascists.", ">\n\nThey want to see hunter’s dick pics.", ">\n\nIt's gotta be this, thanks because I was confused.", ">\n\nIt's not all bad...I like the concession of bringing term limits for congressmen to a floor vote.", ">\n\nNever going to happen. They will never vote themselves out of a comfy job.", ">\n\nTrue...but at least you see how everyone votes.", ">\n\nThey will all vote no.", ">\n\n…That they feel are unfair because they target republicans. Maybe don’t support a corrupt D-list celebrity who literally doesn’t care about anything but himself who tried to illegally stay in power by inciting an insurrection?\nFuck the GOP and their Orwellian horseshit.", ">\n\n\nWell they can investigate but law enforcement has no authority to share details of ongoing investigations and every legal duty to refrain from doing so.\n\nI'm sure there will be challenges to subpoenas and go through the courts. There is a lot Trumpian influence on the Courts still and ultimately if it rises to the highest levels a hard-right conservative block controlling the Supreme Court.", ">\n\ncough Cannon cough Kavanaugh cough Barrett cough cough cough", ">\n\n'Empowered' how exactly?\nThat is a separate branch of government. What are they going to do? subpoena DOJ witnesses? And when those witnesses thumb their noses at the Congress - then the Congress will make criminal referrals to the DOJ?\nOh yeah - this is going to go great.", ">\n\nThe ignorance to what oversight means is astounding!", ">\n\n“Beep beep beeeeleep beep beep beep…” (Here comes the clown car!”)", ">\n\nThe committee itself is going to end up convicted of conspiracy to commit fraud", ">\n\nMore Hillary investigations?", ">\n\n... into themselves.", ">\n\nSo the circus clown show begins", ">\n\nWhat traitorous clowns!!!", ">\n\nDestroy the GOP", ">\n\nNice headline\nBut they aren’t ‘empowered’ to do Jack shit. \nDOJ is a separate branch and as we learned from Trump there is zero enforcement of a subpoena \nAl they can try and do is shut the govt down.", ">\n\nLol they don’t have oversight of active criminal investigations.", ">\n\nNo, they say they would be. Just saying it does not make it true, even in GQP land.", ">\n\nSo Republicans are protecting themselves from Justice Department investigating their sedition and insurrection.", ">\n\nSpeaker McCarthy, living up to his namesake.", ">\n\nDOJ is under executive branch so they can review all they want. It will be meaningless." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close.", ">\n\nFederal Coverup Center.", ">\n\nThat man is evil.", ">\n\nPeople acting like we don't know how to deal with the house making threats to the executive branch. Ignore subeonas, deny, deflect, then when it reaches the president they obstruct for \"the good of the nation.\" Nothing this house does will matter.", ">\n\nWe're going to get to the bottom of why Democrats keep investigating all the crimes we've been openly committing.", ">\n\n*review.. should say sabotage", ">\n\nSounds to me like this is an erosion of separation of powers and all the judicial branch has to do is refuse to cooperate with them.\nAs read in this article, the judicial branch would be WELL within their rights to refuse to cooperate.\nI know as a citizen of this nation, and the understanding that those in congress are my EMPLOYEES, I insist they cooperate with any investigation into their behavior.", ">\n\nThey will struggle, because these investigations are difficult, time consuming, and require some competence to conduct efficiently. I hope they try to do everything at once.", ">\n\nThe party of domestic terrorism goes right after the investigations of its criminal and seditious leaders and participants.", ">\n\nIt’s just that because of separation of powers they will get no information. They might as well investigate the domestic living conditions of the White House or cabinet members. They simply don’t have legal authority. They already know this. It’s just a piece of trash they came up with.", ">\n\nWe've investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.", ">\n\nBirds of a feather stay together.", ">\n\nthey won’t be able to do anything but it will be on tv all the time, especially during elections", ">\n\nThe J6 Committee adjourned and is no longer \"ongoing\". So ... the GOP wants to \"review\" criminal investigations into their own Members?", ">\n\n\"I DECLARE THE POWER OF OVERSIGHT\"\nThat's not how it works Kevin", ">\n\nThe legislative branch doesn’t really have authority over that sort of stuff. But they’re welcome to try to pass some laws.", ">\n\nJim Jordan is a piece of shit. F him.", ">\n\nHow else is trump going to get a look at what evidence the government has?", ">\n\ndiscovery in the court of law, if we're lucky", ">\n\nThe trump nutcases might actually blackmail the GOP into protecting Trump, this is just GREAT :D", ">\n\nDon’t even hide the corruption.", ">\n\nFucking Fascists.", ">\n\nThey want to see hunter’s dick pics.", ">\n\nIt's gotta be this, thanks because I was confused.", ">\n\nIt's not all bad...I like the concession of bringing term limits for congressmen to a floor vote.", ">\n\nNever going to happen. They will never vote themselves out of a comfy job.", ">\n\nTrue...but at least you see how everyone votes.", ">\n\nThey will all vote no.", ">\n\n…That they feel are unfair because they target republicans. Maybe don’t support a corrupt D-list celebrity who literally doesn’t care about anything but himself who tried to illegally stay in power by inciting an insurrection?\nFuck the GOP and their Orwellian horseshit.", ">\n\n\nWell they can investigate but law enforcement has no authority to share details of ongoing investigations and every legal duty to refrain from doing so.\n\nI'm sure there will be challenges to subpoenas and go through the courts. There is a lot Trumpian influence on the Courts still and ultimately if it rises to the highest levels a hard-right conservative block controlling the Supreme Court.", ">\n\ncough Cannon cough Kavanaugh cough Barrett cough cough cough", ">\n\n'Empowered' how exactly?\nThat is a separate branch of government. What are they going to do? subpoena DOJ witnesses? And when those witnesses thumb their noses at the Congress - then the Congress will make criminal referrals to the DOJ?\nOh yeah - this is going to go great.", ">\n\nThe ignorance to what oversight means is astounding!", ">\n\n“Beep beep beeeeleep beep beep beep…” (Here comes the clown car!”)", ">\n\nThe committee itself is going to end up convicted of conspiracy to commit fraud", ">\n\nMore Hillary investigations?", ">\n\n... into themselves.", ">\n\nSo the circus clown show begins", ">\n\nWhat traitorous clowns!!!", ">\n\nDestroy the GOP", ">\n\nNice headline\nBut they aren’t ‘empowered’ to do Jack shit. \nDOJ is a separate branch and as we learned from Trump there is zero enforcement of a subpoena \nAl they can try and do is shut the govt down.", ">\n\nLol they don’t have oversight of active criminal investigations.", ">\n\nNo, they say they would be. Just saying it does not make it true, even in GQP land.", ">\n\nSo Republicans are protecting themselves from Justice Department investigating their sedition and insurrection.", ">\n\nSpeaker McCarthy, living up to his namesake.", ">\n\nDOJ is under executive branch so they can review all they want. It will be meaningless.", ">\n\nI hope it hurts them in the 2024 presidential election." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close.", ">\n\nFederal Coverup Center.", ">\n\nThat man is evil.", ">\n\nPeople acting like we don't know how to deal with the house making threats to the executive branch. Ignore subeonas, deny, deflect, then when it reaches the president they obstruct for \"the good of the nation.\" Nothing this house does will matter.", ">\n\nWe're going to get to the bottom of why Democrats keep investigating all the crimes we've been openly committing.", ">\n\n*review.. should say sabotage", ">\n\nSounds to me like this is an erosion of separation of powers and all the judicial branch has to do is refuse to cooperate with them.\nAs read in this article, the judicial branch would be WELL within their rights to refuse to cooperate.\nI know as a citizen of this nation, and the understanding that those in congress are my EMPLOYEES, I insist they cooperate with any investigation into their behavior.", ">\n\nThey will struggle, because these investigations are difficult, time consuming, and require some competence to conduct efficiently. I hope they try to do everything at once.", ">\n\nThe party of domestic terrorism goes right after the investigations of its criminal and seditious leaders and participants.", ">\n\nIt’s just that because of separation of powers they will get no information. They might as well investigate the domestic living conditions of the White House or cabinet members. They simply don’t have legal authority. They already know this. It’s just a piece of trash they came up with.", ">\n\nWe've investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.", ">\n\nBirds of a feather stay together.", ">\n\nthey won’t be able to do anything but it will be on tv all the time, especially during elections", ">\n\nThe J6 Committee adjourned and is no longer \"ongoing\". So ... the GOP wants to \"review\" criminal investigations into their own Members?", ">\n\n\"I DECLARE THE POWER OF OVERSIGHT\"\nThat's not how it works Kevin", ">\n\nThe legislative branch doesn’t really have authority over that sort of stuff. But they’re welcome to try to pass some laws.", ">\n\nJim Jordan is a piece of shit. F him.", ">\n\nHow else is trump going to get a look at what evidence the government has?", ">\n\ndiscovery in the court of law, if we're lucky", ">\n\nThe trump nutcases might actually blackmail the GOP into protecting Trump, this is just GREAT :D", ">\n\nDon’t even hide the corruption.", ">\n\nFucking Fascists.", ">\n\nThey want to see hunter’s dick pics.", ">\n\nIt's gotta be this, thanks because I was confused.", ">\n\nIt's not all bad...I like the concession of bringing term limits for congressmen to a floor vote.", ">\n\nNever going to happen. They will never vote themselves out of a comfy job.", ">\n\nTrue...but at least you see how everyone votes.", ">\n\nThey will all vote no.", ">\n\n…That they feel are unfair because they target republicans. Maybe don’t support a corrupt D-list celebrity who literally doesn’t care about anything but himself who tried to illegally stay in power by inciting an insurrection?\nFuck the GOP and their Orwellian horseshit.", ">\n\n\nWell they can investigate but law enforcement has no authority to share details of ongoing investigations and every legal duty to refrain from doing so.\n\nI'm sure there will be challenges to subpoenas and go through the courts. There is a lot Trumpian influence on the Courts still and ultimately if it rises to the highest levels a hard-right conservative block controlling the Supreme Court.", ">\n\ncough Cannon cough Kavanaugh cough Barrett cough cough cough", ">\n\n'Empowered' how exactly?\nThat is a separate branch of government. What are they going to do? subpoena DOJ witnesses? And when those witnesses thumb their noses at the Congress - then the Congress will make criminal referrals to the DOJ?\nOh yeah - this is going to go great.", ">\n\nThe ignorance to what oversight means is astounding!", ">\n\n“Beep beep beeeeleep beep beep beep…” (Here comes the clown car!”)", ">\n\nThe committee itself is going to end up convicted of conspiracy to commit fraud", ">\n\nMore Hillary investigations?", ">\n\n... into themselves.", ">\n\nSo the circus clown show begins", ">\n\nWhat traitorous clowns!!!", ">\n\nDestroy the GOP", ">\n\nNice headline\nBut they aren’t ‘empowered’ to do Jack shit. \nDOJ is a separate branch and as we learned from Trump there is zero enforcement of a subpoena \nAl they can try and do is shut the govt down.", ">\n\nLol they don’t have oversight of active criminal investigations.", ">\n\nNo, they say they would be. Just saying it does not make it true, even in GQP land.", ">\n\nSo Republicans are protecting themselves from Justice Department investigating their sedition and insurrection.", ">\n\nSpeaker McCarthy, living up to his namesake.", ">\n\nDOJ is under executive branch so they can review all they want. It will be meaningless.", ">\n\nI hope it hurts them in the 2024 presidential election.", ">\n\nThe BS starts! The traitors will get away with treason because they are in a position of power! The “ no one is above the law” is all bullshit!" ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close.", ">\n\nFederal Coverup Center.", ">\n\nThat man is evil.", ">\n\nPeople acting like we don't know how to deal with the house making threats to the executive branch. Ignore subeonas, deny, deflect, then when it reaches the president they obstruct for \"the good of the nation.\" Nothing this house does will matter.", ">\n\nWe're going to get to the bottom of why Democrats keep investigating all the crimes we've been openly committing.", ">\n\n*review.. should say sabotage", ">\n\nSounds to me like this is an erosion of separation of powers and all the judicial branch has to do is refuse to cooperate with them.\nAs read in this article, the judicial branch would be WELL within their rights to refuse to cooperate.\nI know as a citizen of this nation, and the understanding that those in congress are my EMPLOYEES, I insist they cooperate with any investigation into their behavior.", ">\n\nThey will struggle, because these investigations are difficult, time consuming, and require some competence to conduct efficiently. I hope they try to do everything at once.", ">\n\nThe party of domestic terrorism goes right after the investigations of its criminal and seditious leaders and participants.", ">\n\nIt’s just that because of separation of powers they will get no information. They might as well investigate the domestic living conditions of the White House or cabinet members. They simply don’t have legal authority. They already know this. It’s just a piece of trash they came up with.", ">\n\nWe've investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.", ">\n\nBirds of a feather stay together.", ">\n\nthey won’t be able to do anything but it will be on tv all the time, especially during elections", ">\n\nThe J6 Committee adjourned and is no longer \"ongoing\". So ... the GOP wants to \"review\" criminal investigations into their own Members?", ">\n\n\"I DECLARE THE POWER OF OVERSIGHT\"\nThat's not how it works Kevin", ">\n\nThe legislative branch doesn’t really have authority over that sort of stuff. But they’re welcome to try to pass some laws.", ">\n\nJim Jordan is a piece of shit. F him.", ">\n\nHow else is trump going to get a look at what evidence the government has?", ">\n\ndiscovery in the court of law, if we're lucky", ">\n\nThe trump nutcases might actually blackmail the GOP into protecting Trump, this is just GREAT :D", ">\n\nDon’t even hide the corruption.", ">\n\nFucking Fascists.", ">\n\nThey want to see hunter’s dick pics.", ">\n\nIt's gotta be this, thanks because I was confused.", ">\n\nIt's not all bad...I like the concession of bringing term limits for congressmen to a floor vote.", ">\n\nNever going to happen. They will never vote themselves out of a comfy job.", ">\n\nTrue...but at least you see how everyone votes.", ">\n\nThey will all vote no.", ">\n\n…That they feel are unfair because they target republicans. Maybe don’t support a corrupt D-list celebrity who literally doesn’t care about anything but himself who tried to illegally stay in power by inciting an insurrection?\nFuck the GOP and their Orwellian horseshit.", ">\n\n\nWell they can investigate but law enforcement has no authority to share details of ongoing investigations and every legal duty to refrain from doing so.\n\nI'm sure there will be challenges to subpoenas and go through the courts. There is a lot Trumpian influence on the Courts still and ultimately if it rises to the highest levels a hard-right conservative block controlling the Supreme Court.", ">\n\ncough Cannon cough Kavanaugh cough Barrett cough cough cough", ">\n\n'Empowered' how exactly?\nThat is a separate branch of government. What are they going to do? subpoena DOJ witnesses? And when those witnesses thumb their noses at the Congress - then the Congress will make criminal referrals to the DOJ?\nOh yeah - this is going to go great.", ">\n\nThe ignorance to what oversight means is astounding!", ">\n\n“Beep beep beeeeleep beep beep beep…” (Here comes the clown car!”)", ">\n\nThe committee itself is going to end up convicted of conspiracy to commit fraud", ">\n\nMore Hillary investigations?", ">\n\n... into themselves.", ">\n\nSo the circus clown show begins", ">\n\nWhat traitorous clowns!!!", ">\n\nDestroy the GOP", ">\n\nNice headline\nBut they aren’t ‘empowered’ to do Jack shit. \nDOJ is a separate branch and as we learned from Trump there is zero enforcement of a subpoena \nAl they can try and do is shut the govt down.", ">\n\nLol they don’t have oversight of active criminal investigations.", ">\n\nNo, they say they would be. Just saying it does not make it true, even in GQP land.", ">\n\nSo Republicans are protecting themselves from Justice Department investigating their sedition and insurrection.", ">\n\nSpeaker McCarthy, living up to his namesake.", ">\n\nDOJ is under executive branch so they can review all they want. It will be meaningless.", ">\n\nI hope it hurts them in the 2024 presidential election.", ">\n\nThe BS starts! The traitors will get away with treason because they are in a position of power! The “ no one is above the law” is all bullshit!", ">\n\nIt’s pretty fucked that they’ll have this, the Scotus, appeals, police - shits about to get dark." ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close.", ">\n\nFederal Coverup Center.", ">\n\nThat man is evil.", ">\n\nPeople acting like we don't know how to deal with the house making threats to the executive branch. Ignore subeonas, deny, deflect, then when it reaches the president they obstruct for \"the good of the nation.\" Nothing this house does will matter.", ">\n\nWe're going to get to the bottom of why Democrats keep investigating all the crimes we've been openly committing.", ">\n\n*review.. should say sabotage", ">\n\nSounds to me like this is an erosion of separation of powers and all the judicial branch has to do is refuse to cooperate with them.\nAs read in this article, the judicial branch would be WELL within their rights to refuse to cooperate.\nI know as a citizen of this nation, and the understanding that those in congress are my EMPLOYEES, I insist they cooperate with any investigation into their behavior.", ">\n\nThey will struggle, because these investigations are difficult, time consuming, and require some competence to conduct efficiently. I hope they try to do everything at once.", ">\n\nThe party of domestic terrorism goes right after the investigations of its criminal and seditious leaders and participants.", ">\n\nIt’s just that because of separation of powers they will get no information. They might as well investigate the domestic living conditions of the White House or cabinet members. They simply don’t have legal authority. They already know this. It’s just a piece of trash they came up with.", ">\n\nWe've investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.", ">\n\nBirds of a feather stay together.", ">\n\nthey won’t be able to do anything but it will be on tv all the time, especially during elections", ">\n\nThe J6 Committee adjourned and is no longer \"ongoing\". So ... the GOP wants to \"review\" criminal investigations into their own Members?", ">\n\n\"I DECLARE THE POWER OF OVERSIGHT\"\nThat's not how it works Kevin", ">\n\nThe legislative branch doesn’t really have authority over that sort of stuff. But they’re welcome to try to pass some laws.", ">\n\nJim Jordan is a piece of shit. F him.", ">\n\nHow else is trump going to get a look at what evidence the government has?", ">\n\ndiscovery in the court of law, if we're lucky", ">\n\nThe trump nutcases might actually blackmail the GOP into protecting Trump, this is just GREAT :D", ">\n\nDon’t even hide the corruption.", ">\n\nFucking Fascists.", ">\n\nThey want to see hunter’s dick pics.", ">\n\nIt's gotta be this, thanks because I was confused.", ">\n\nIt's not all bad...I like the concession of bringing term limits for congressmen to a floor vote.", ">\n\nNever going to happen. They will never vote themselves out of a comfy job.", ">\n\nTrue...but at least you see how everyone votes.", ">\n\nThey will all vote no.", ">\n\n…That they feel are unfair because they target republicans. Maybe don’t support a corrupt D-list celebrity who literally doesn’t care about anything but himself who tried to illegally stay in power by inciting an insurrection?\nFuck the GOP and their Orwellian horseshit.", ">\n\n\nWell they can investigate but law enforcement has no authority to share details of ongoing investigations and every legal duty to refrain from doing so.\n\nI'm sure there will be challenges to subpoenas and go through the courts. There is a lot Trumpian influence on the Courts still and ultimately if it rises to the highest levels a hard-right conservative block controlling the Supreme Court.", ">\n\ncough Cannon cough Kavanaugh cough Barrett cough cough cough", ">\n\n'Empowered' how exactly?\nThat is a separate branch of government. What are they going to do? subpoena DOJ witnesses? And when those witnesses thumb their noses at the Congress - then the Congress will make criminal referrals to the DOJ?\nOh yeah - this is going to go great.", ">\n\nThe ignorance to what oversight means is astounding!", ">\n\n“Beep beep beeeeleep beep beep beep…” (Here comes the clown car!”)", ">\n\nThe committee itself is going to end up convicted of conspiracy to commit fraud", ">\n\nMore Hillary investigations?", ">\n\n... into themselves.", ">\n\nSo the circus clown show begins", ">\n\nWhat traitorous clowns!!!", ">\n\nDestroy the GOP", ">\n\nNice headline\nBut they aren’t ‘empowered’ to do Jack shit. \nDOJ is a separate branch and as we learned from Trump there is zero enforcement of a subpoena \nAl they can try and do is shut the govt down.", ">\n\nLol they don’t have oversight of active criminal investigations.", ">\n\nNo, they say they would be. Just saying it does not make it true, even in GQP land.", ">\n\nSo Republicans are protecting themselves from Justice Department investigating their sedition and insurrection.", ">\n\nSpeaker McCarthy, living up to his namesake.", ">\n\nDOJ is under executive branch so they can review all they want. It will be meaningless.", ">\n\nI hope it hurts them in the 2024 presidential election.", ">\n\nThe BS starts! The traitors will get away with treason because they are in a position of power! The “ no one is above the law” is all bullshit!", ">\n\nIt’s pretty fucked that they’ll have this, the Scotus, appeals, police - shits about to get dark.", ">\n\nHmmm isn’t that the executive branch’s role?" ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close.", ">\n\nFederal Coverup Center.", ">\n\nThat man is evil.", ">\n\nPeople acting like we don't know how to deal with the house making threats to the executive branch. Ignore subeonas, deny, deflect, then when it reaches the president they obstruct for \"the good of the nation.\" Nothing this house does will matter.", ">\n\nWe're going to get to the bottom of why Democrats keep investigating all the crimes we've been openly committing.", ">\n\n*review.. should say sabotage", ">\n\nSounds to me like this is an erosion of separation of powers and all the judicial branch has to do is refuse to cooperate with them.\nAs read in this article, the judicial branch would be WELL within their rights to refuse to cooperate.\nI know as a citizen of this nation, and the understanding that those in congress are my EMPLOYEES, I insist they cooperate with any investigation into their behavior.", ">\n\nThey will struggle, because these investigations are difficult, time consuming, and require some competence to conduct efficiently. I hope they try to do everything at once.", ">\n\nThe party of domestic terrorism goes right after the investigations of its criminal and seditious leaders and participants.", ">\n\nIt’s just that because of separation of powers they will get no information. They might as well investigate the domestic living conditions of the White House or cabinet members. They simply don’t have legal authority. They already know this. It’s just a piece of trash they came up with.", ">\n\nWe've investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.", ">\n\nBirds of a feather stay together.", ">\n\nthey won’t be able to do anything but it will be on tv all the time, especially during elections", ">\n\nThe J6 Committee adjourned and is no longer \"ongoing\". So ... the GOP wants to \"review\" criminal investigations into their own Members?", ">\n\n\"I DECLARE THE POWER OF OVERSIGHT\"\nThat's not how it works Kevin", ">\n\nThe legislative branch doesn’t really have authority over that sort of stuff. But they’re welcome to try to pass some laws.", ">\n\nJim Jordan is a piece of shit. F him.", ">\n\nHow else is trump going to get a look at what evidence the government has?", ">\n\ndiscovery in the court of law, if we're lucky", ">\n\nThe trump nutcases might actually blackmail the GOP into protecting Trump, this is just GREAT :D", ">\n\nDon’t even hide the corruption.", ">\n\nFucking Fascists.", ">\n\nThey want to see hunter’s dick pics.", ">\n\nIt's gotta be this, thanks because I was confused.", ">\n\nIt's not all bad...I like the concession of bringing term limits for congressmen to a floor vote.", ">\n\nNever going to happen. They will never vote themselves out of a comfy job.", ">\n\nTrue...but at least you see how everyone votes.", ">\n\nThey will all vote no.", ">\n\n…That they feel are unfair because they target republicans. Maybe don’t support a corrupt D-list celebrity who literally doesn’t care about anything but himself who tried to illegally stay in power by inciting an insurrection?\nFuck the GOP and their Orwellian horseshit.", ">\n\n\nWell they can investigate but law enforcement has no authority to share details of ongoing investigations and every legal duty to refrain from doing so.\n\nI'm sure there will be challenges to subpoenas and go through the courts. There is a lot Trumpian influence on the Courts still and ultimately if it rises to the highest levels a hard-right conservative block controlling the Supreme Court.", ">\n\ncough Cannon cough Kavanaugh cough Barrett cough cough cough", ">\n\n'Empowered' how exactly?\nThat is a separate branch of government. What are they going to do? subpoena DOJ witnesses? And when those witnesses thumb their noses at the Congress - then the Congress will make criminal referrals to the DOJ?\nOh yeah - this is going to go great.", ">\n\nThe ignorance to what oversight means is astounding!", ">\n\n“Beep beep beeeeleep beep beep beep…” (Here comes the clown car!”)", ">\n\nThe committee itself is going to end up convicted of conspiracy to commit fraud", ">\n\nMore Hillary investigations?", ">\n\n... into themselves.", ">\n\nSo the circus clown show begins", ">\n\nWhat traitorous clowns!!!", ">\n\nDestroy the GOP", ">\n\nNice headline\nBut they aren’t ‘empowered’ to do Jack shit. \nDOJ is a separate branch and as we learned from Trump there is zero enforcement of a subpoena \nAl they can try and do is shut the govt down.", ">\n\nLol they don’t have oversight of active criminal investigations.", ">\n\nNo, they say they would be. Just saying it does not make it true, even in GQP land.", ">\n\nSo Republicans are protecting themselves from Justice Department investigating their sedition and insurrection.", ">\n\nSpeaker McCarthy, living up to his namesake.", ">\n\nDOJ is under executive branch so they can review all they want. It will be meaningless.", ">\n\nI hope it hurts them in the 2024 presidential election.", ">\n\nThe BS starts! The traitors will get away with treason because they are in a position of power! The “ no one is above the law” is all bullshit!", ">\n\nIt’s pretty fucked that they’ll have this, the Scotus, appeals, police - shits about to get dark.", ">\n\nHmmm isn’t that the executive branch’s role?", ">\n\nConsidering most of them are criminals who aided Trump in trying to overthrow our government, we should all be worried! Here comes the fascist of Trump again! Will they ever be held accountable?" ]

[ "Trying to protect their criminal leader Trump.", ">\n\nI would say they are trying to protect themselves, since they belong in jail right next to trump, but Democrats and the justice department have shown little appetite for holding anyone accountable, let alone members of Congress. But if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why. It's clear a huge chunk want trump to just disappear because they see him as a liability, so why would they pass up an opportunity to make that happen?", ">\n\n\nBut if it is about protecting trump, I'm curious as to why.\n\nBecause if Trump is indicted, there's a good chance he'll throw everyone under the bus to save his own skin.", ">\n\nEveryone knows that no one in the republican party is going to jail.\nIt’s silly, to the point of stupidity, to think any of them are worried about some vaguely defined future prosecutions. Gaetz is about to be in charge of the DOJs budget - he is not going to be arrested.\nThat is even without considering that the only tangible evidence he trafficked underage vicitm(s) were photos CSPAN recorded him sharing with other members on the House floor.\nMueller’s farce and trump’s pardons might have made it more obvious, but the FBI never has and never will allow white conservative millionaires to be prosecuted for political corruption. Protecting the right wing oligarchy is why the FBI and the newer Patriot Act police authorities exist.\nNone of this about trump running for President again either. That ship sailed in darkness months ago, for many reasons and on many foul winds.\ntrump brought the republican party a permanent atmospheric river of invisible campaign finance and maga swag sales revenue. We are talking a multi billion dollar annual industry.\nAll these politicians have to do is say something alarmingly fascist and vioent and the tap points to them for a few days. It is the only reason why the speaker dispute even happened.\nIt is the only reason any of this right wing radicalism even exists.\nThe proud boys founder, (protected as an FBI source), all but admitted that he created antifa, bragged that he is only interested is being a tshirt salesman, and that he makes almost as much money selling radical tshirts and signs to the left as the right. Alex jones doesn’t give a rat’s ass what he says, only what he makes more money saying. Tucker Carlson would put his tongue in Vlad Putin‘s unwashed rectum if it kept his oligarchy of the airwaves feeding him money. Elvis was a panhandler compared to these tent show preachers.\nSeriously, It just doesn’t process how much money the chsritian-o-republican leadership is making off this scam. But nothing will slow them down until everyone admits, deeply and truly admits, that this is the only thing involved. \nIf you are looking for a federal agency to bring cargo and rescue on this it is more likley to be the IRS then the FBI.\nThe previous policy platforms of American Conservatism have been entirely washed away by a tsunami of money and a plague of institutional hubris.\nThere is no policy for the GOP, no purpose, no end goal, no discourse, no patriotism and certainly no concern for any version of a rationally assessable future for America in any of their activities.\nThe republican party would, man and boy, screw dogs on live tv for money. And social media, reddit included, is just the puppy mill.\nAmerican political reality is money and only money flowing to celebrity politician-oligarchs, and the only arguments they are capable of having concern who controls the spigot.\nIt is basically un patriotic to talk about anything else.", ">\n\nAlso don't forget Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew!", ">\n\nWhat if they are the subject of the investigation (looking at you Jim Jordan)?\nAfter reading the article - this really gives me a very bad feeling. This sounds like a direct line of information being pulled from the DoJ straight to Trump. They will have the ability to give Trump anything he needs to evade justice. \nThis is wrong. This is very wrong.", ">\n\nDon’t leave out pedo Gaetz.", ">\n\nDOJ already said they weren’t doing shit about Gaetz.", ">\n\nThey can't. They have no witnesses to testify against him, so unless Gaetz himself confesses with details they have nothing but hearsay of an \"alleged\" crime.", ">\n\nExcept all the public Venmo transactions from gaetz to children.", ">\n\nWhat for? I'm not defending Gaetz here, but a case against him unfortunately needs to be ironclad due to his profile. That means incontrovertible proof he paid minors for sex, instead of anything else, witnesses, etc. It's not enough to know a crime was committed, they have to be able to prove it. And I seriously doubt any prosecutor wants to take on such a high profile case unless the DOJ can give them a slam dunk. \nSpeculation, but since the DOJ knows a crime was committed by him, but they can't prove it in court, I bet they are watching him to catch him if he does it again.", ">\n\nThat panel being able to access what the house intelligence committee can access is most worrying.", ">\n\nThey'd still need the proper clearances if dealing with classified materials, but worrying nonetheless.", ">\n\nNo they wouldn't. Clearance rules don't apply to elected reps.", ">\n\nIt sorta does. \nIn that there is no immunity to breaking the rules similar to what TFG attempted to get away with. Security Clearances and rules for classified material are the governance of the Executive. The Legislative can request (and will often be given clearance due to obvious oversight needs) but some sort of special select committee will probably not get along well with the WH. But the Legislative needs to play entirely by the rules laid out by the executive, and will be punished if they try to leak and or abuse classified material.", ">\n\nThis isn’t correct. Legislators do not go through background checks—they are authorized to access classified info by virtue of their positions. The Executive cannot deny access to classified material to the House Intelligence Committee or any of its members because the Executive doesn’t give one of them a security clearance. That’s not a thing. \nDisclosing or improperly handling classified material is still a crime, though, and the House itself has adopted rules governing handling of classified information. But reading classified info into the Congressional Record is not a crime.", ">\n\nYeah, but this isn't about the House Intelligence Committee.\nThis is about some other, new, select committee trying to fish for a scandal. And they'll have a hard time getting their hands on anything.", ">\n\nNo, they won’t. It’s the exact same separation of powers issues. Maybe the executive branch will be less accommodating and force the fights to court, it doesn’t actually change the underlying legal issues. The only thing it’s possibly relevant to is a “valid legislative purpose,” but that’s almost certainly going to be present.", ">\n\nI think they should be as accommodating as the previous executive was with congressional investigations.", ">\n\nEvidence not required. Just make the accusations, don't follow up, and scream about the next conspiracy.", ">\n\nSounds like a good way to get paid to grandstand and try and win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately though, the DOJ doesn't have to answer to Congress about their investigations like this, nor is there anything that says Congress can dictate how an investigation is done.", ">\n\nDoesn't every part of the Executive Branch answer to congressional subpoenas? Their only defense is Executive Privilege, but that doesn't apply when Biden is specifically not involved in the investigation.", ">\n\nlatest constitutional law says the Exec Branch can always ignore congressional subpoena. it's a theory first used by the Trump admin", ">\n\nThey're caught in a trap, and they are far too stupid to avoid it. Actually they can't avoid it because they have to try and obstruct the Justice Department's upcoming \"activities\" not because they want to save trump, but because they need his brainless cult to win elections. But in doing so, and because the evidence is so overwhelming, it's going to look like criminals trying to save themselves while perverting the tools of the House to do so. Two years of this.", ">\n\nThere's no danger to being caught in a trap that never closes.", ">\n\n\nProposed GOP select panel would be empowered to ~~review~~ obstruct ‘ongoing criminal investigations’\n\nFTFY.\nedit:delspace", ">\n\nOnly in their deluded minds. It would be like the DOJ investigating their rules for legality. They have no basis of authority to do so.", ">\n\nGood luck getting access to evidence being used in a Federal Criminal Investigation...Jack Smith will tell these guys to kick rocks.", ">\n\nThe whole DOJ will tell them to F off. They have no authority whatsoever.", ">\n\nAll I want is for Biden Admin. employees to tell the House to go pound sound when they get subpoenaed. Trump set the precedent. \nThat… or they simply can’t recall once they show up.", ">\n\nSo long as tye DOJ can \"review\" the libel and obstruction of justice they commit in the process.", ">\n\nThe entire goal here is to attack the work done for the last 2 years and give their base something to attacks the Dems with. It doesn't even have to be true. They have a goal and will find the \"evidence\" to support it.", ">\n\nTo be clear it's likely to be blocked by the courts. The legislative branch has no authority in criminal investigations.", ">\n\nThey know this in advance. It’s a grotesque violation of Separation of powers.", ">\n\nAh, yes. “Investigations”, as in “Dumb conspiracies made up by Putin’s troll farms that managed to convince the GOP into thinking they’re real.”\nAnd yet I still get downvoted for thinking Russia has secretly taken over the US…", ">\n\nIronically Russia cannot win a military fight, but they can win with disinformation. \nI do not believe Russia has taken over the US. I do believe they have done an exceptional job of spreading disinformation to weak-minded people who also happen to control one half of Congress.", ">\n\n“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” Kevin McCarthy said. Then quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nHouse Speaker Paul D. Ryan immediately interjected, and instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying:\n“No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”\nSource: WaPo", ">\n\nIs it a false hope that i wanna see Mccarthy and other moderates give the big fuck you to the nutters when it comes down to business? i know its a stretch bc they cant get past making new soundbites but i can dream", ">\n\nI am sure a number of them will, after their last day in office.", ">\n\nThe GOP tried this during the Clinton presidency. It went no where. Separation of powers doctrine plays here.", ">\n\nIt shouldn't, but this is a different supreme court", ">\n\nOhhhh what’re they gonna do? Use subpoenas?", ">\n\nThe separation of powers doctrine would prevent them from investigating any ongoing investigations by DOJ.", ">\n\nLet me guess, Gaetz was holding out for a committee position to support McCarthy?", ">\n\nLooks like it’s time for revenge against the democrats for investigating the insurrection.", ">\n\nLooks like it's time for revenge against the Republicans for ignoring congressional subpoenas for the last 5 years. Have fun with those \"investigations\" and we'll see you in court...maybe lol", ">\n\nUmmm, separation of powers much?", ">\n\nOpen and shut.", ">\n\nRead: Bury/close investigations into Republicans or their friends/donors and open/accelerate investigations into non-Republicans. Got it.", ">\n\nHard to say if this would help the “big cheese”, most of whom have already been sentenced. Of course there’s also the biggest rodent.. \nThat said, House members who release sensitive info or benefit from it, aren’t immune from prosecution themselves (see ABSCAM scandal of early ‘80s resulting in prison time for Reps .. granted more for corruption). \nWith a thin majority and GOP centrists seething over concessions to said hardliners reportedly, publishing sensitive info isn’t wise …", ">\n\nslamming fist on table with each word WE MUST BE ABLE TO FREELY COMMIT CRIMES!", ">\n\nYeah, that should go over well with the American people.", ">\n\nI don't believe their followers care. The majority of Americans care, but not enough to shift congress for the next two cycles.", ">\n\nThey have rigged the system and protect the criminals. A proven sex trafficker was the last hold out in the house. The sad part. That party just got 4 million more votes in the midterm.", ">\n\nWho didn’t see this coming", ">\n\nweaponize the federal government under the guise of investigating weaponization", ">\n\nI'm beginning to think these republicvnts aren't being sincere when they talk...", ">\n\nSure to become the greatest example ever of the Streisand Effect. Go to it, guys!\n“Let’s show all those videos of our loyal patriots visiting the Capitol on January 6th one more time!\n“And list all the top secret documents found at Mar-a-Lago! Let people see it all. \n‘And let’s get the forgotten Mueller Report back out there for an encore! People don’t seem to realize that Russia didn’t work together with Trump to get him elected. Russia did it all on its own because they thought he was too incompetent to work with. So innocent! \n‘Not to mention that the only reason Muller didn’t charge Trump with obstruction was that he was President! \n‘Reviewing all the evidence that the Democrats have brought to light during these scurrilous investigations will surely not make us look like complicit clowns!”\nI think it’s time to restock the popcorn supplies.", ">\n\nThey are protecting each other. They can’t stop the DOJ or Intelligence community from holding Trump accountable for actions taken post-Presidency", ">\n\nMccarthy made a deal with the devil (the conservative traitors) and now the whole country will suffer.", ">\n\nTrump orchestrated this whole Speakership debacle for exactly this purpose, to weaken the power of the Speakership to the point where any one of Trumps cronies can challenge Kevin, effectively giving Trump control. Trump intends to use this control by proxy to interfere with the investigations against him any way he possibly can. Just wait until the debt ceiling negotiations are blocked because Republicans insist that the investigations into Trump be stopped first as a condition to continue in the name of their new “weaponization of the corrupt fbi” faux crusade. Trump will try shut the government down through his goons to stop the investigation against him. They are still insurrecting (is that a word?)", ">\n\nWhy should anyone feel compelled to comply with a subpoena when members on the new committee refuse to themselves?", ">\n\nYou guys think they’ll scrutinize the FBI investigation of Hunter Biden’s dick?", ">\n\nimma love it when everything they go after has only their stank all over it and they quietly drop it.", ">\n\nHow many more levels of corruption are there before we bottom out and become Russia of the west? Feels like we are getting close.", ">\n\nFederal Coverup Center.", ">\n\nThat man is evil.", ">\n\nPeople acting like we don't know how to deal with the house making threats to the executive branch. Ignore subeonas, deny, deflect, then when it reaches the president they obstruct for \"the good of the nation.\" Nothing this house does will matter.", ">\n\nWe're going to get to the bottom of why Democrats keep investigating all the crimes we've been openly committing.", ">\n\n*review.. should say sabotage", ">\n\nSounds to me like this is an erosion of separation of powers and all the judicial branch has to do is refuse to cooperate with them.\nAs read in this article, the judicial branch would be WELL within their rights to refuse to cooperate.\nI know as a citizen of this nation, and the understanding that those in congress are my EMPLOYEES, I insist they cooperate with any investigation into their behavior.", ">\n\nThey will struggle, because these investigations are difficult, time consuming, and require some competence to conduct efficiently. I hope they try to do everything at once.", ">\n\nThe party of domestic terrorism goes right after the investigations of its criminal and seditious leaders and participants.", ">\n\nIt’s just that because of separation of powers they will get no information. They might as well investigate the domestic living conditions of the White House or cabinet members. They simply don’t have legal authority. They already know this. It’s just a piece of trash they came up with.", ">\n\nWe've investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.", ">\n\nBirds of a feather stay together.", ">\n\nthey won’t be able to do anything but it will be on tv all the time, especially during elections", ">\n\nThe J6 Committee adjourned and is no longer \"ongoing\". So ... the GOP wants to \"review\" criminal investigations into their own Members?", ">\n\n\"I DECLARE THE POWER OF OVERSIGHT\"\nThat's not how it works Kevin", ">\n\nThe legislative branch doesn’t really have authority over that sort of stuff. But they’re welcome to try to pass some laws.", ">\n\nJim Jordan is a piece of shit. F him.", ">\n\nHow else is trump going to get a look at what evidence the government has?", ">\n\ndiscovery in the court of law, if we're lucky", ">\n\nThe trump nutcases might actually blackmail the GOP into protecting Trump, this is just GREAT :D", ">\n\nDon’t even hide the corruption.", ">\n\nFucking Fascists.", ">\n\nThey want to see hunter’s dick pics.", ">\n\nIt's gotta be this, thanks because I was confused.", ">\n\nIt's not all bad...I like the concession of bringing term limits for congressmen to a floor vote.", ">\n\nNever going to happen. They will never vote themselves out of a comfy job.", ">\n\nTrue...but at least you see how everyone votes.", ">\n\nThey will all vote no.", ">\n\n…That they feel are unfair because they target republicans. Maybe don’t support a corrupt D-list celebrity who literally doesn’t care about anything but himself who tried to illegally stay in power by inciting an insurrection?\nFuck the GOP and their Orwellian horseshit.", ">\n\n\nWell they can investigate but law enforcement has no authority to share details of ongoing investigations and every legal duty to refrain from doing so.\n\nI'm sure there will be challenges to subpoenas and go through the courts. There is a lot Trumpian influence on the Courts still and ultimately if it rises to the highest levels a hard-right conservative block controlling the Supreme Court.", ">\n\ncough Cannon cough Kavanaugh cough Barrett cough cough cough", ">\n\n'Empowered' how exactly?\nThat is a separate branch of government. What are they going to do? subpoena DOJ witnesses? And when those witnesses thumb their noses at the Congress - then the Congress will make criminal referrals to the DOJ?\nOh yeah - this is going to go great.", ">\n\nThe ignorance to what oversight means is astounding!", ">\n\n“Beep beep beeeeleep beep beep beep…” (Here comes the clown car!”)", ">\n\nThe committee itself is going to end up convicted of conspiracy to commit fraud", ">\n\nMore Hillary investigations?", ">\n\n... into themselves.", ">\n\nSo the circus clown show begins", ">\n\nWhat traitorous clowns!!!", ">\n\nDestroy the GOP", ">\n\nNice headline\nBut they aren’t ‘empowered’ to do Jack shit. \nDOJ is a separate branch and as we learned from Trump there is zero enforcement of a subpoena \nAl they can try and do is shut the govt down.", ">\n\nLol they don’t have oversight of active criminal investigations.", ">\n\nNo, they say they would be. Just saying it does not make it true, even in GQP land.", ">\n\nSo Republicans are protecting themselves from Justice Department investigating their sedition and insurrection.", ">\n\nSpeaker McCarthy, living up to his namesake.", ">\n\nDOJ is under executive branch so they can review all they want. It will be meaningless.", ">\n\nI hope it hurts them in the 2024 presidential election.", ">\n\nThe BS starts! The traitors will get away with treason because they are in a position of power! The “ no one is above the law” is all bullshit!", ">\n\nIt’s pretty fucked that they’ll have this, the Scotus, appeals, police - shits about to get dark.", ">\n\nHmmm isn’t that the executive branch’s role?", ">\n\nConsidering most of them are criminals who aided Trump in trying to overthrow our government, we should all be worried! Here comes the fascist of Trump again! Will they ever be held accountable?", ">\n\nThis is blatantly illegal. It violates the separation of powers and Garland is very justifiably going to tell them to fuck off. \nThey're going to throw a tantrum about not being able to protect their goons and messiahs. And they're going to use this to try and impeach Biden. But because this will be driven by the extremists, they may not get enough support to even get it out of the house.\nBasically they better get this done before their antics burn any patience of the establishment caucus. It'll still fail, but it's their only chance to keep the party in line." ]