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He wants them to put in writing all the deeply unpopular demands they are making so no one can deny it later on. | [
"It blows my mind Republicans have been campaigning on cutting Social Security, and Medicare and junk that Boomers are now preparing to get or are already getting, and Boomers still support them completely.",
">\n\nI always assumed any cuts would be geared at future benefits for people that are only just starting to pay in.\nAnd one might think, \"well why would people want to deny others of a benefit that they enjoy themselves\", but we already know the answer.",
">\n\nI know I'm in the minority as an elder millennial, I've been working for the past 25 years with no vacations and smart investments so I am more or less financially set.\nBut if social security is cut for my generation I will quit my job on the spot. I'm not going to pay in one more dime. Fuck these boomers who want to destroy the future to enrich themselves.",
">\n\nThat fact that you mentioned no vacations to be financially sound scares me. Don’t do that… there is zero guarantee you’ll make it to retirement age in shape to enjoy it. Enjoy life now",
">\n\nGenX here that followed the same strategy. My health is fucked. \nOn the bright side, I've probably saved enough for retirement because I'm going to die at my desk before I'm 60.",
">\n\nNot too late to change and start enjoying things now. Ive probably fucked myself over on retirement and that sucks but my body is failing hard and fast and I’m not even old age. I’m so glad I did a lot in my 20s and 30s because I am scared I’ll not make it to 50, let alone 60",
">\n\nNo friends and no interests. And most of my money is in long-term retirement. \nPlus, my medical bills would wipe me out if I quit my job.",
">\n\nAs someone else with no friends or interests I feel this\nExcept I have no investments.",
">\n\n“We’ve already begun work on a comprehensive budget, titled, ‘We hate Democrats Just Because.’ You’ll have it in two weeks.”",
">\n\n\"2 minutes, Turkish\"",
">\n\nIt was 2 minutes 5 minutes ago",
">\n\n\nA Republican budget proposal, the advisers said, should specify whether Republicans would pursue savings through cuts to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, health insurance subsidies, research or public safety spending.\n\nIn other words, you can’t just yell “stop the woke budget!” You have to point out exactly what money is allocated to those causes and then justify why.\nWe all know they won’t do this because they have nothing to point to. So they’ll decry “woke budget!” until the summer and then they will fuck over the country for cheap culture war points.",
">\n\nIt’s absolutely ridiculous. For the past decade at least, Republicans only goal has been to destroy faith in our institutions so they can point out how broken it is and how we need to vote them in to fix it. They are 100% willing to let the government default so they can point to it and say it’s all democrats fault. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. Their constituents religiously watch a single “news” source that tells them exactly what to believe.",
">\n\nWhile ironically calling everyone else around them sheep. Sighhh",
">\n\n“We will block the government from paying debts until you cut spending 😈 What do you think of that Sleepy Joe?”\n“What spending are you going to cut?”\n“Medicare and social securi- uh- I mean no, NO WE WON’T DO THAT! We’ll cut uh… uh… educa- no… uh… the military budg- ahhh our lobbyists need that… we’re gonna cut… something WOKE!”\n“Okay send me a budget.”\n“agggghhhh FUCK YOU JOE!! FUCK YOU!”\nLoving this new GOP that is both toothless and dumb.",
">\n\nThey’re dumb but they aren’t toothless. They can still crater the economy or force this into the (corrupt and right wing) courts and come out with a win.",
">\n\nThere is no world where the debt ceiling doesn’t get raised. It will be raised. The GOP just wants to embarass themselves a bit beforehand it seems",
">\n\nYou’re going to be wrong. They’re that stupid",
">\n\nIn order for the debt ceiling to not be raised, and the US to default on its loans, the Republicans will need almost all their congresspeople to remain opposed to raising it. Even as it causes a recession and blows up all their stock portfolios. \nThe debt ceiling will be raised. But it doesn’t need to be for 6 months. The treasury says it can take extraordinary measures to\nmove money around and pay off debts until June. So the Republicans might just keep refusing to raise the debt ceiling and make a show out of it for a few months.",
">\n\nThat would dominate the news cycles. Yawn.",
">\n\nIt will be produced right after their very beautiful health care plan.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for infrastructure week",
">\n\nInfrastructure week is done. By democrats of course.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"Set Obfuscate Shield to maximum deflection power!\"",
">\n\nLet’s be real, the Republican budget is a picture of Biden they drew a penis on with a Sharpie.",
">\n\nBut they drew it exaggeratedly large so they can see the joke. And now they unironically call him Big Dick Biden because they think he's acting like a huge dick.",
">\n\nTraceable accountability is garlic to the GOP vampire.",
">\n\nDems: \"Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"No!\"\nDems: \"Kevin, be serious here . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"I doan wanna!\nDems: \"C'mon now, Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"You can't make me!!! Just give me what my handlers want or I'm gonna turn on the space lasers!!!\"\n\"Pew! Pew! Pew!\" the Speaker added.",
">\n\nGOP: We want cut waste, fraud and abuse. \nPrez: okay, show us specifics on what you think should be cut.\nGOP: Waste, Fraud and Abuse!\nThey don’t want provide specific answers, because those will be unpopular. Biden asking for specifics, so he can hammer them on those specifics.",
">\n\nExactly and McCarthy is in an impossible position since he had to agree to a rules change in the House that would let a single member launch a challenge to his speakership. Hence his answer on Twitter which you nicely parroted. “Mr. President,” he wrote, “I received your staff’s memo. I’m not interested in political games. I’m coming to negotiate for the American people.”",
">\n\nGoing into a negotiation with a plan? Does uncle Joe even know republicans?",
">\n\nPresident Joe knows that there isn't a single Republican in Congress who can even fake a detailed budget thing in Word/PDF",
">\n\nThey're going to copy and paste last year's budget, and just reduce everything they don't like.",
">\n\nThen they need to say in detail everything they don't like and by how much they would like to reduce it.",
">\n\nHmm... a detailed budget you say?\n|Budget 2024|Amount|\n:--|:--|\n|Wokeness|$0|\n|Awesomeness|$ALL|\nWhy yes, I'd love a prestigious committee assignment. I'm thinking... chair of Ways and Means? Thanks, Kev!!",
">\n\nChatGOP. I’m calling it now.",
">\n\nIf we could actually just go ahead and replace the entire Republican Party with ChatGPT actually, that would be a step up. At least the AI does it’s job. The GOP is the real do-nothing party."
] |
>
“Curses! Foiled Again!” - Kevin McCarthy | [
"It blows my mind Republicans have been campaigning on cutting Social Security, and Medicare and junk that Boomers are now preparing to get or are already getting, and Boomers still support them completely.",
">\n\nI always assumed any cuts would be geared at future benefits for people that are only just starting to pay in.\nAnd one might think, \"well why would people want to deny others of a benefit that they enjoy themselves\", but we already know the answer.",
">\n\nI know I'm in the minority as an elder millennial, I've been working for the past 25 years with no vacations and smart investments so I am more or less financially set.\nBut if social security is cut for my generation I will quit my job on the spot. I'm not going to pay in one more dime. Fuck these boomers who want to destroy the future to enrich themselves.",
">\n\nThat fact that you mentioned no vacations to be financially sound scares me. Don’t do that… there is zero guarantee you’ll make it to retirement age in shape to enjoy it. Enjoy life now",
">\n\nGenX here that followed the same strategy. My health is fucked. \nOn the bright side, I've probably saved enough for retirement because I'm going to die at my desk before I'm 60.",
">\n\nNot too late to change and start enjoying things now. Ive probably fucked myself over on retirement and that sucks but my body is failing hard and fast and I’m not even old age. I’m so glad I did a lot in my 20s and 30s because I am scared I’ll not make it to 50, let alone 60",
">\n\nNo friends and no interests. And most of my money is in long-term retirement. \nPlus, my medical bills would wipe me out if I quit my job.",
">\n\nAs someone else with no friends or interests I feel this\nExcept I have no investments.",
">\n\n“We’ve already begun work on a comprehensive budget, titled, ‘We hate Democrats Just Because.’ You’ll have it in two weeks.”",
">\n\n\"2 minutes, Turkish\"",
">\n\nIt was 2 minutes 5 minutes ago",
">\n\n\nA Republican budget proposal, the advisers said, should specify whether Republicans would pursue savings through cuts to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, health insurance subsidies, research or public safety spending.\n\nIn other words, you can’t just yell “stop the woke budget!” You have to point out exactly what money is allocated to those causes and then justify why.\nWe all know they won’t do this because they have nothing to point to. So they’ll decry “woke budget!” until the summer and then they will fuck over the country for cheap culture war points.",
">\n\nIt’s absolutely ridiculous. For the past decade at least, Republicans only goal has been to destroy faith in our institutions so they can point out how broken it is and how we need to vote them in to fix it. They are 100% willing to let the government default so they can point to it and say it’s all democrats fault. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. Their constituents religiously watch a single “news” source that tells them exactly what to believe.",
">\n\nWhile ironically calling everyone else around them sheep. Sighhh",
">\n\n“We will block the government from paying debts until you cut spending 😈 What do you think of that Sleepy Joe?”\n“What spending are you going to cut?”\n“Medicare and social securi- uh- I mean no, NO WE WON’T DO THAT! We’ll cut uh… uh… educa- no… uh… the military budg- ahhh our lobbyists need that… we’re gonna cut… something WOKE!”\n“Okay send me a budget.”\n“agggghhhh FUCK YOU JOE!! FUCK YOU!”\nLoving this new GOP that is both toothless and dumb.",
">\n\nThey’re dumb but they aren’t toothless. They can still crater the economy or force this into the (corrupt and right wing) courts and come out with a win.",
">\n\nThere is no world where the debt ceiling doesn’t get raised. It will be raised. The GOP just wants to embarass themselves a bit beforehand it seems",
">\n\nYou’re going to be wrong. They’re that stupid",
">\n\nIn order for the debt ceiling to not be raised, and the US to default on its loans, the Republicans will need almost all their congresspeople to remain opposed to raising it. Even as it causes a recession and blows up all their stock portfolios. \nThe debt ceiling will be raised. But it doesn’t need to be for 6 months. The treasury says it can take extraordinary measures to\nmove money around and pay off debts until June. So the Republicans might just keep refusing to raise the debt ceiling and make a show out of it for a few months.",
">\n\nThat would dominate the news cycles. Yawn.",
">\n\nIt will be produced right after their very beautiful health care plan.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for infrastructure week",
">\n\nInfrastructure week is done. By democrats of course.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"Set Obfuscate Shield to maximum deflection power!\"",
">\n\nLet’s be real, the Republican budget is a picture of Biden they drew a penis on with a Sharpie.",
">\n\nBut they drew it exaggeratedly large so they can see the joke. And now they unironically call him Big Dick Biden because they think he's acting like a huge dick.",
">\n\nTraceable accountability is garlic to the GOP vampire.",
">\n\nDems: \"Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"No!\"\nDems: \"Kevin, be serious here . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"I doan wanna!\nDems: \"C'mon now, Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"You can't make me!!! Just give me what my handlers want or I'm gonna turn on the space lasers!!!\"\n\"Pew! Pew! Pew!\" the Speaker added.",
">\n\nGOP: We want cut waste, fraud and abuse. \nPrez: okay, show us specifics on what you think should be cut.\nGOP: Waste, Fraud and Abuse!\nThey don’t want provide specific answers, because those will be unpopular. Biden asking for specifics, so he can hammer them on those specifics.",
">\n\nExactly and McCarthy is in an impossible position since he had to agree to a rules change in the House that would let a single member launch a challenge to his speakership. Hence his answer on Twitter which you nicely parroted. “Mr. President,” he wrote, “I received your staff’s memo. I’m not interested in political games. I’m coming to negotiate for the American people.”",
">\n\nGoing into a negotiation with a plan? Does uncle Joe even know republicans?",
">\n\nPresident Joe knows that there isn't a single Republican in Congress who can even fake a detailed budget thing in Word/PDF",
">\n\nThey're going to copy and paste last year's budget, and just reduce everything they don't like.",
">\n\nThen they need to say in detail everything they don't like and by how much they would like to reduce it.",
">\n\nHmm... a detailed budget you say?\n|Budget 2024|Amount|\n:--|:--|\n|Wokeness|$0|\n|Awesomeness|$ALL|\nWhy yes, I'd love a prestigious committee assignment. I'm thinking... chair of Ways and Means? Thanks, Kev!!",
">\n\nChatGOP. I’m calling it now.",
">\n\nIf we could actually just go ahead and replace the entire Republican Party with ChatGPT actually, that would be a step up. At least the AI does it’s job. The GOP is the real do-nothing party.",
">\n\nHe wants them to put in writing all the deeply unpopular demands they are making so no one can deny it later on."
] |
>
God. McCarthy is so bad at this. | [
"It blows my mind Republicans have been campaigning on cutting Social Security, and Medicare and junk that Boomers are now preparing to get or are already getting, and Boomers still support them completely.",
">\n\nI always assumed any cuts would be geared at future benefits for people that are only just starting to pay in.\nAnd one might think, \"well why would people want to deny others of a benefit that they enjoy themselves\", but we already know the answer.",
">\n\nI know I'm in the minority as an elder millennial, I've been working for the past 25 years with no vacations and smart investments so I am more or less financially set.\nBut if social security is cut for my generation I will quit my job on the spot. I'm not going to pay in one more dime. Fuck these boomers who want to destroy the future to enrich themselves.",
">\n\nThat fact that you mentioned no vacations to be financially sound scares me. Don’t do that… there is zero guarantee you’ll make it to retirement age in shape to enjoy it. Enjoy life now",
">\n\nGenX here that followed the same strategy. My health is fucked. \nOn the bright side, I've probably saved enough for retirement because I'm going to die at my desk before I'm 60.",
">\n\nNot too late to change and start enjoying things now. Ive probably fucked myself over on retirement and that sucks but my body is failing hard and fast and I’m not even old age. I’m so glad I did a lot in my 20s and 30s because I am scared I’ll not make it to 50, let alone 60",
">\n\nNo friends and no interests. And most of my money is in long-term retirement. \nPlus, my medical bills would wipe me out if I quit my job.",
">\n\nAs someone else with no friends or interests I feel this\nExcept I have no investments.",
">\n\n“We’ve already begun work on a comprehensive budget, titled, ‘We hate Democrats Just Because.’ You’ll have it in two weeks.”",
">\n\n\"2 minutes, Turkish\"",
">\n\nIt was 2 minutes 5 minutes ago",
">\n\n\nA Republican budget proposal, the advisers said, should specify whether Republicans would pursue savings through cuts to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, health insurance subsidies, research or public safety spending.\n\nIn other words, you can’t just yell “stop the woke budget!” You have to point out exactly what money is allocated to those causes and then justify why.\nWe all know they won’t do this because they have nothing to point to. So they’ll decry “woke budget!” until the summer and then they will fuck over the country for cheap culture war points.",
">\n\nIt’s absolutely ridiculous. For the past decade at least, Republicans only goal has been to destroy faith in our institutions so they can point out how broken it is and how we need to vote them in to fix it. They are 100% willing to let the government default so they can point to it and say it’s all democrats fault. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. Their constituents religiously watch a single “news” source that tells them exactly what to believe.",
">\n\nWhile ironically calling everyone else around them sheep. Sighhh",
">\n\n“We will block the government from paying debts until you cut spending 😈 What do you think of that Sleepy Joe?”\n“What spending are you going to cut?”\n“Medicare and social securi- uh- I mean no, NO WE WON’T DO THAT! We’ll cut uh… uh… educa- no… uh… the military budg- ahhh our lobbyists need that… we’re gonna cut… something WOKE!”\n“Okay send me a budget.”\n“agggghhhh FUCK YOU JOE!! FUCK YOU!”\nLoving this new GOP that is both toothless and dumb.",
">\n\nThey’re dumb but they aren’t toothless. They can still crater the economy or force this into the (corrupt and right wing) courts and come out with a win.",
">\n\nThere is no world where the debt ceiling doesn’t get raised. It will be raised. The GOP just wants to embarass themselves a bit beforehand it seems",
">\n\nYou’re going to be wrong. They’re that stupid",
">\n\nIn order for the debt ceiling to not be raised, and the US to default on its loans, the Republicans will need almost all their congresspeople to remain opposed to raising it. Even as it causes a recession and blows up all their stock portfolios. \nThe debt ceiling will be raised. But it doesn’t need to be for 6 months. The treasury says it can take extraordinary measures to\nmove money around and pay off debts until June. So the Republicans might just keep refusing to raise the debt ceiling and make a show out of it for a few months.",
">\n\nThat would dominate the news cycles. Yawn.",
">\n\nIt will be produced right after their very beautiful health care plan.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for infrastructure week",
">\n\nInfrastructure week is done. By democrats of course.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"Set Obfuscate Shield to maximum deflection power!\"",
">\n\nLet’s be real, the Republican budget is a picture of Biden they drew a penis on with a Sharpie.",
">\n\nBut they drew it exaggeratedly large so they can see the joke. And now they unironically call him Big Dick Biden because they think he's acting like a huge dick.",
">\n\nTraceable accountability is garlic to the GOP vampire.",
">\n\nDems: \"Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"No!\"\nDems: \"Kevin, be serious here . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"I doan wanna!\nDems: \"C'mon now, Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"You can't make me!!! Just give me what my handlers want or I'm gonna turn on the space lasers!!!\"\n\"Pew! Pew! Pew!\" the Speaker added.",
">\n\nGOP: We want cut waste, fraud and abuse. \nPrez: okay, show us specifics on what you think should be cut.\nGOP: Waste, Fraud and Abuse!\nThey don’t want provide specific answers, because those will be unpopular. Biden asking for specifics, so he can hammer them on those specifics.",
">\n\nExactly and McCarthy is in an impossible position since he had to agree to a rules change in the House that would let a single member launch a challenge to his speakership. Hence his answer on Twitter which you nicely parroted. “Mr. President,” he wrote, “I received your staff’s memo. I’m not interested in political games. I’m coming to negotiate for the American people.”",
">\n\nGoing into a negotiation with a plan? Does uncle Joe even know republicans?",
">\n\nPresident Joe knows that there isn't a single Republican in Congress who can even fake a detailed budget thing in Word/PDF",
">\n\nThey're going to copy and paste last year's budget, and just reduce everything they don't like.",
">\n\nThen they need to say in detail everything they don't like and by how much they would like to reduce it.",
">\n\nHmm... a detailed budget you say?\n|Budget 2024|Amount|\n:--|:--|\n|Wokeness|$0|\n|Awesomeness|$ALL|\nWhy yes, I'd love a prestigious committee assignment. I'm thinking... chair of Ways and Means? Thanks, Kev!!",
">\n\nChatGOP. I’m calling it now.",
">\n\nIf we could actually just go ahead and replace the entire Republican Party with ChatGPT actually, that would be a step up. At least the AI does it’s job. The GOP is the real do-nothing party.",
">\n\nHe wants them to put in writing all the deeply unpopular demands they are making so no one can deny it later on.",
">\n\n“Curses! Foiled Again!” - Kevin McCarthy"
] |
>
Good move. He knows how difficult it will be for them to produce one, and even if they are capable of spitting something out, it will likely be unpopular and it will have further stressed their internal divisions. | [
"It blows my mind Republicans have been campaigning on cutting Social Security, and Medicare and junk that Boomers are now preparing to get or are already getting, and Boomers still support them completely.",
">\n\nI always assumed any cuts would be geared at future benefits for people that are only just starting to pay in.\nAnd one might think, \"well why would people want to deny others of a benefit that they enjoy themselves\", but we already know the answer.",
">\n\nI know I'm in the minority as an elder millennial, I've been working for the past 25 years with no vacations and smart investments so I am more or less financially set.\nBut if social security is cut for my generation I will quit my job on the spot. I'm not going to pay in one more dime. Fuck these boomers who want to destroy the future to enrich themselves.",
">\n\nThat fact that you mentioned no vacations to be financially sound scares me. Don’t do that… there is zero guarantee you’ll make it to retirement age in shape to enjoy it. Enjoy life now",
">\n\nGenX here that followed the same strategy. My health is fucked. \nOn the bright side, I've probably saved enough for retirement because I'm going to die at my desk before I'm 60.",
">\n\nNot too late to change and start enjoying things now. Ive probably fucked myself over on retirement and that sucks but my body is failing hard and fast and I’m not even old age. I’m so glad I did a lot in my 20s and 30s because I am scared I’ll not make it to 50, let alone 60",
">\n\nNo friends and no interests. And most of my money is in long-term retirement. \nPlus, my medical bills would wipe me out if I quit my job.",
">\n\nAs someone else with no friends or interests I feel this\nExcept I have no investments.",
">\n\n“We’ve already begun work on a comprehensive budget, titled, ‘We hate Democrats Just Because.’ You’ll have it in two weeks.”",
">\n\n\"2 minutes, Turkish\"",
">\n\nIt was 2 minutes 5 minutes ago",
">\n\n\nA Republican budget proposal, the advisers said, should specify whether Republicans would pursue savings through cuts to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, health insurance subsidies, research or public safety spending.\n\nIn other words, you can’t just yell “stop the woke budget!” You have to point out exactly what money is allocated to those causes and then justify why.\nWe all know they won’t do this because they have nothing to point to. So they’ll decry “woke budget!” until the summer and then they will fuck over the country for cheap culture war points.",
">\n\nIt’s absolutely ridiculous. For the past decade at least, Republicans only goal has been to destroy faith in our institutions so they can point out how broken it is and how we need to vote them in to fix it. They are 100% willing to let the government default so they can point to it and say it’s all democrats fault. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. Their constituents religiously watch a single “news” source that tells them exactly what to believe.",
">\n\nWhile ironically calling everyone else around them sheep. Sighhh",
">\n\n“We will block the government from paying debts until you cut spending 😈 What do you think of that Sleepy Joe?”\n“What spending are you going to cut?”\n“Medicare and social securi- uh- I mean no, NO WE WON’T DO THAT! We’ll cut uh… uh… educa- no… uh… the military budg- ahhh our lobbyists need that… we’re gonna cut… something WOKE!”\n“Okay send me a budget.”\n“agggghhhh FUCK YOU JOE!! FUCK YOU!”\nLoving this new GOP that is both toothless and dumb.",
">\n\nThey’re dumb but they aren’t toothless. They can still crater the economy or force this into the (corrupt and right wing) courts and come out with a win.",
">\n\nThere is no world where the debt ceiling doesn’t get raised. It will be raised. The GOP just wants to embarass themselves a bit beforehand it seems",
">\n\nYou’re going to be wrong. They’re that stupid",
">\n\nIn order for the debt ceiling to not be raised, and the US to default on its loans, the Republicans will need almost all their congresspeople to remain opposed to raising it. Even as it causes a recession and blows up all their stock portfolios. \nThe debt ceiling will be raised. But it doesn’t need to be for 6 months. The treasury says it can take extraordinary measures to\nmove money around and pay off debts until June. So the Republicans might just keep refusing to raise the debt ceiling and make a show out of it for a few months.",
">\n\nThat would dominate the news cycles. Yawn.",
">\n\nIt will be produced right after their very beautiful health care plan.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for infrastructure week",
">\n\nInfrastructure week is done. By democrats of course.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"Set Obfuscate Shield to maximum deflection power!\"",
">\n\nLet’s be real, the Republican budget is a picture of Biden they drew a penis on with a Sharpie.",
">\n\nBut they drew it exaggeratedly large so they can see the joke. And now they unironically call him Big Dick Biden because they think he's acting like a huge dick.",
">\n\nTraceable accountability is garlic to the GOP vampire.",
">\n\nDems: \"Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"No!\"\nDems: \"Kevin, be serious here . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"I doan wanna!\nDems: \"C'mon now, Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"You can't make me!!! Just give me what my handlers want or I'm gonna turn on the space lasers!!!\"\n\"Pew! Pew! Pew!\" the Speaker added.",
">\n\nGOP: We want cut waste, fraud and abuse. \nPrez: okay, show us specifics on what you think should be cut.\nGOP: Waste, Fraud and Abuse!\nThey don’t want provide specific answers, because those will be unpopular. Biden asking for specifics, so he can hammer them on those specifics.",
">\n\nExactly and McCarthy is in an impossible position since he had to agree to a rules change in the House that would let a single member launch a challenge to his speakership. Hence his answer on Twitter which you nicely parroted. “Mr. President,” he wrote, “I received your staff’s memo. I’m not interested in political games. I’m coming to negotiate for the American people.”",
">\n\nGoing into a negotiation with a plan? Does uncle Joe even know republicans?",
">\n\nPresident Joe knows that there isn't a single Republican in Congress who can even fake a detailed budget thing in Word/PDF",
">\n\nThey're going to copy and paste last year's budget, and just reduce everything they don't like.",
">\n\nThen they need to say in detail everything they don't like and by how much they would like to reduce it.",
">\n\nHmm... a detailed budget you say?\n|Budget 2024|Amount|\n:--|:--|\n|Wokeness|$0|\n|Awesomeness|$ALL|\nWhy yes, I'd love a prestigious committee assignment. I'm thinking... chair of Ways and Means? Thanks, Kev!!",
">\n\nChatGOP. I’m calling it now.",
">\n\nIf we could actually just go ahead and replace the entire Republican Party with ChatGPT actually, that would be a step up. At least the AI does it’s job. The GOP is the real do-nothing party.",
">\n\nHe wants them to put in writing all the deeply unpopular demands they are making so no one can deny it later on.",
">\n\n“Curses! Foiled Again!” - Kevin McCarthy",
">\n\nGod. McCarthy is so bad at this."
] |
>
Summary:
We need to cut spending on welfare, infrastructure, and local projects in your area, and futher increase handouts to the 1% and corporations and fatten up the military to prepare for more immoral wars like the Iraq War we blatantly lied our way into.
-Signed The GOP. | [
"It blows my mind Republicans have been campaigning on cutting Social Security, and Medicare and junk that Boomers are now preparing to get or are already getting, and Boomers still support them completely.",
">\n\nI always assumed any cuts would be geared at future benefits for people that are only just starting to pay in.\nAnd one might think, \"well why would people want to deny others of a benefit that they enjoy themselves\", but we already know the answer.",
">\n\nI know I'm in the minority as an elder millennial, I've been working for the past 25 years with no vacations and smart investments so I am more or less financially set.\nBut if social security is cut for my generation I will quit my job on the spot. I'm not going to pay in one more dime. Fuck these boomers who want to destroy the future to enrich themselves.",
">\n\nThat fact that you mentioned no vacations to be financially sound scares me. Don’t do that… there is zero guarantee you’ll make it to retirement age in shape to enjoy it. Enjoy life now",
">\n\nGenX here that followed the same strategy. My health is fucked. \nOn the bright side, I've probably saved enough for retirement because I'm going to die at my desk before I'm 60.",
">\n\nNot too late to change and start enjoying things now. Ive probably fucked myself over on retirement and that sucks but my body is failing hard and fast and I’m not even old age. I’m so glad I did a lot in my 20s and 30s because I am scared I’ll not make it to 50, let alone 60",
">\n\nNo friends and no interests. And most of my money is in long-term retirement. \nPlus, my medical bills would wipe me out if I quit my job.",
">\n\nAs someone else with no friends or interests I feel this\nExcept I have no investments.",
">\n\n“We’ve already begun work on a comprehensive budget, titled, ‘We hate Democrats Just Because.’ You’ll have it in two weeks.”",
">\n\n\"2 minutes, Turkish\"",
">\n\nIt was 2 minutes 5 minutes ago",
">\n\n\nA Republican budget proposal, the advisers said, should specify whether Republicans would pursue savings through cuts to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, health insurance subsidies, research or public safety spending.\n\nIn other words, you can’t just yell “stop the woke budget!” You have to point out exactly what money is allocated to those causes and then justify why.\nWe all know they won’t do this because they have nothing to point to. So they’ll decry “woke budget!” until the summer and then they will fuck over the country for cheap culture war points.",
">\n\nIt’s absolutely ridiculous. For the past decade at least, Republicans only goal has been to destroy faith in our institutions so they can point out how broken it is and how we need to vote them in to fix it. They are 100% willing to let the government default so they can point to it and say it’s all democrats fault. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. Their constituents religiously watch a single “news” source that tells them exactly what to believe.",
">\n\nWhile ironically calling everyone else around them sheep. Sighhh",
">\n\n“We will block the government from paying debts until you cut spending 😈 What do you think of that Sleepy Joe?”\n“What spending are you going to cut?”\n“Medicare and social securi- uh- I mean no, NO WE WON’T DO THAT! We’ll cut uh… uh… educa- no… uh… the military budg- ahhh our lobbyists need that… we’re gonna cut… something WOKE!”\n“Okay send me a budget.”\n“agggghhhh FUCK YOU JOE!! FUCK YOU!”\nLoving this new GOP that is both toothless and dumb.",
">\n\nThey’re dumb but they aren’t toothless. They can still crater the economy or force this into the (corrupt and right wing) courts and come out with a win.",
">\n\nThere is no world where the debt ceiling doesn’t get raised. It will be raised. The GOP just wants to embarass themselves a bit beforehand it seems",
">\n\nYou’re going to be wrong. They’re that stupid",
">\n\nIn order for the debt ceiling to not be raised, and the US to default on its loans, the Republicans will need almost all their congresspeople to remain opposed to raising it. Even as it causes a recession and blows up all their stock portfolios. \nThe debt ceiling will be raised. But it doesn’t need to be for 6 months. The treasury says it can take extraordinary measures to\nmove money around and pay off debts until June. So the Republicans might just keep refusing to raise the debt ceiling and make a show out of it for a few months.",
">\n\nThat would dominate the news cycles. Yawn.",
">\n\nIt will be produced right after their very beautiful health care plan.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for infrastructure week",
">\n\nInfrastructure week is done. By democrats of course.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"Set Obfuscate Shield to maximum deflection power!\"",
">\n\nLet’s be real, the Republican budget is a picture of Biden they drew a penis on with a Sharpie.",
">\n\nBut they drew it exaggeratedly large so they can see the joke. And now they unironically call him Big Dick Biden because they think he's acting like a huge dick.",
">\n\nTraceable accountability is garlic to the GOP vampire.",
">\n\nDems: \"Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"No!\"\nDems: \"Kevin, be serious here . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"I doan wanna!\nDems: \"C'mon now, Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"You can't make me!!! Just give me what my handlers want or I'm gonna turn on the space lasers!!!\"\n\"Pew! Pew! Pew!\" the Speaker added.",
">\n\nGOP: We want cut waste, fraud and abuse. \nPrez: okay, show us specifics on what you think should be cut.\nGOP: Waste, Fraud and Abuse!\nThey don’t want provide specific answers, because those will be unpopular. Biden asking for specifics, so he can hammer them on those specifics.",
">\n\nExactly and McCarthy is in an impossible position since he had to agree to a rules change in the House that would let a single member launch a challenge to his speakership. Hence his answer on Twitter which you nicely parroted. “Mr. President,” he wrote, “I received your staff’s memo. I’m not interested in political games. I’m coming to negotiate for the American people.”",
">\n\nGoing into a negotiation with a plan? Does uncle Joe even know republicans?",
">\n\nPresident Joe knows that there isn't a single Republican in Congress who can even fake a detailed budget thing in Word/PDF",
">\n\nThey're going to copy and paste last year's budget, and just reduce everything they don't like.",
">\n\nThen they need to say in detail everything they don't like and by how much they would like to reduce it.",
">\n\nHmm... a detailed budget you say?\n|Budget 2024|Amount|\n:--|:--|\n|Wokeness|$0|\n|Awesomeness|$ALL|\nWhy yes, I'd love a prestigious committee assignment. I'm thinking... chair of Ways and Means? Thanks, Kev!!",
">\n\nChatGOP. I’m calling it now.",
">\n\nIf we could actually just go ahead and replace the entire Republican Party with ChatGPT actually, that would be a step up. At least the AI does it’s job. The GOP is the real do-nothing party.",
">\n\nHe wants them to put in writing all the deeply unpopular demands they are making so no one can deny it later on.",
">\n\n“Curses! Foiled Again!” - Kevin McCarthy",
">\n\nGod. McCarthy is so bad at this.",
">\n\nGood move. He knows how difficult it will be for them to produce one, and even if they are capable of spitting something out, it will likely be unpopular and it will have further stressed their internal divisions."
] |
>
You are dead on. Now it's all about how they shove this pill down their voter's throats without them getting upset. | [
"It blows my mind Republicans have been campaigning on cutting Social Security, and Medicare and junk that Boomers are now preparing to get or are already getting, and Boomers still support them completely.",
">\n\nI always assumed any cuts would be geared at future benefits for people that are only just starting to pay in.\nAnd one might think, \"well why would people want to deny others of a benefit that they enjoy themselves\", but we already know the answer.",
">\n\nI know I'm in the minority as an elder millennial, I've been working for the past 25 years with no vacations and smart investments so I am more or less financially set.\nBut if social security is cut for my generation I will quit my job on the spot. I'm not going to pay in one more dime. Fuck these boomers who want to destroy the future to enrich themselves.",
">\n\nThat fact that you mentioned no vacations to be financially sound scares me. Don’t do that… there is zero guarantee you’ll make it to retirement age in shape to enjoy it. Enjoy life now",
">\n\nGenX here that followed the same strategy. My health is fucked. \nOn the bright side, I've probably saved enough for retirement because I'm going to die at my desk before I'm 60.",
">\n\nNot too late to change and start enjoying things now. Ive probably fucked myself over on retirement and that sucks but my body is failing hard and fast and I’m not even old age. I’m so glad I did a lot in my 20s and 30s because I am scared I’ll not make it to 50, let alone 60",
">\n\nNo friends and no interests. And most of my money is in long-term retirement. \nPlus, my medical bills would wipe me out if I quit my job.",
">\n\nAs someone else with no friends or interests I feel this\nExcept I have no investments.",
">\n\n“We’ve already begun work on a comprehensive budget, titled, ‘We hate Democrats Just Because.’ You’ll have it in two weeks.”",
">\n\n\"2 minutes, Turkish\"",
">\n\nIt was 2 minutes 5 minutes ago",
">\n\n\nA Republican budget proposal, the advisers said, should specify whether Republicans would pursue savings through cuts to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, health insurance subsidies, research or public safety spending.\n\nIn other words, you can’t just yell “stop the woke budget!” You have to point out exactly what money is allocated to those causes and then justify why.\nWe all know they won’t do this because they have nothing to point to. So they’ll decry “woke budget!” until the summer and then they will fuck over the country for cheap culture war points.",
">\n\nIt’s absolutely ridiculous. For the past decade at least, Republicans only goal has been to destroy faith in our institutions so they can point out how broken it is and how we need to vote them in to fix it. They are 100% willing to let the government default so they can point to it and say it’s all democrats fault. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. Their constituents religiously watch a single “news” source that tells them exactly what to believe.",
">\n\nWhile ironically calling everyone else around them sheep. Sighhh",
">\n\n“We will block the government from paying debts until you cut spending 😈 What do you think of that Sleepy Joe?”\n“What spending are you going to cut?”\n“Medicare and social securi- uh- I mean no, NO WE WON’T DO THAT! We’ll cut uh… uh… educa- no… uh… the military budg- ahhh our lobbyists need that… we’re gonna cut… something WOKE!”\n“Okay send me a budget.”\n“agggghhhh FUCK YOU JOE!! FUCK YOU!”\nLoving this new GOP that is both toothless and dumb.",
">\n\nThey’re dumb but they aren’t toothless. They can still crater the economy or force this into the (corrupt and right wing) courts and come out with a win.",
">\n\nThere is no world where the debt ceiling doesn’t get raised. It will be raised. The GOP just wants to embarass themselves a bit beforehand it seems",
">\n\nYou’re going to be wrong. They’re that stupid",
">\n\nIn order for the debt ceiling to not be raised, and the US to default on its loans, the Republicans will need almost all their congresspeople to remain opposed to raising it. Even as it causes a recession and blows up all their stock portfolios. \nThe debt ceiling will be raised. But it doesn’t need to be for 6 months. The treasury says it can take extraordinary measures to\nmove money around and pay off debts until June. So the Republicans might just keep refusing to raise the debt ceiling and make a show out of it for a few months.",
">\n\nThat would dominate the news cycles. Yawn.",
">\n\nIt will be produced right after their very beautiful health care plan.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for infrastructure week",
">\n\nInfrastructure week is done. By democrats of course.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"Set Obfuscate Shield to maximum deflection power!\"",
">\n\nLet’s be real, the Republican budget is a picture of Biden they drew a penis on with a Sharpie.",
">\n\nBut they drew it exaggeratedly large so they can see the joke. And now they unironically call him Big Dick Biden because they think he's acting like a huge dick.",
">\n\nTraceable accountability is garlic to the GOP vampire.",
">\n\nDems: \"Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"No!\"\nDems: \"Kevin, be serious here . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"I doan wanna!\nDems: \"C'mon now, Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"You can't make me!!! Just give me what my handlers want or I'm gonna turn on the space lasers!!!\"\n\"Pew! Pew! Pew!\" the Speaker added.",
">\n\nGOP: We want cut waste, fraud and abuse. \nPrez: okay, show us specifics on what you think should be cut.\nGOP: Waste, Fraud and Abuse!\nThey don’t want provide specific answers, because those will be unpopular. Biden asking for specifics, so he can hammer them on those specifics.",
">\n\nExactly and McCarthy is in an impossible position since he had to agree to a rules change in the House that would let a single member launch a challenge to his speakership. Hence his answer on Twitter which you nicely parroted. “Mr. President,” he wrote, “I received your staff’s memo. I’m not interested in political games. I’m coming to negotiate for the American people.”",
">\n\nGoing into a negotiation with a plan? Does uncle Joe even know republicans?",
">\n\nPresident Joe knows that there isn't a single Republican in Congress who can even fake a detailed budget thing in Word/PDF",
">\n\nThey're going to copy and paste last year's budget, and just reduce everything they don't like.",
">\n\nThen they need to say in detail everything they don't like and by how much they would like to reduce it.",
">\n\nHmm... a detailed budget you say?\n|Budget 2024|Amount|\n:--|:--|\n|Wokeness|$0|\n|Awesomeness|$ALL|\nWhy yes, I'd love a prestigious committee assignment. I'm thinking... chair of Ways and Means? Thanks, Kev!!",
">\n\nChatGOP. I’m calling it now.",
">\n\nIf we could actually just go ahead and replace the entire Republican Party with ChatGPT actually, that would be a step up. At least the AI does it’s job. The GOP is the real do-nothing party.",
">\n\nHe wants them to put in writing all the deeply unpopular demands they are making so no one can deny it later on.",
">\n\n“Curses! Foiled Again!” - Kevin McCarthy",
">\n\nGod. McCarthy is so bad at this.",
">\n\nGood move. He knows how difficult it will be for them to produce one, and even if they are capable of spitting something out, it will likely be unpopular and it will have further stressed their internal divisions.",
">\n\nSummary:\nWe need to cut spending on welfare, infrastructure, and local projects in your area, and futher increase handouts to the 1% and corporations and fatten up the military to prepare for more immoral wars like the Iraq War we blatantly lied our way into. \n-Signed The GOP."
] |
>
It's hilarious that you have to remind the Republicans to make sure they bring an agenda to the meeting for the things they want. | [
"It blows my mind Republicans have been campaigning on cutting Social Security, and Medicare and junk that Boomers are now preparing to get or are already getting, and Boomers still support them completely.",
">\n\nI always assumed any cuts would be geared at future benefits for people that are only just starting to pay in.\nAnd one might think, \"well why would people want to deny others of a benefit that they enjoy themselves\", but we already know the answer.",
">\n\nI know I'm in the minority as an elder millennial, I've been working for the past 25 years with no vacations and smart investments so I am more or less financially set.\nBut if social security is cut for my generation I will quit my job on the spot. I'm not going to pay in one more dime. Fuck these boomers who want to destroy the future to enrich themselves.",
">\n\nThat fact that you mentioned no vacations to be financially sound scares me. Don’t do that… there is zero guarantee you’ll make it to retirement age in shape to enjoy it. Enjoy life now",
">\n\nGenX here that followed the same strategy. My health is fucked. \nOn the bright side, I've probably saved enough for retirement because I'm going to die at my desk before I'm 60.",
">\n\nNot too late to change and start enjoying things now. Ive probably fucked myself over on retirement and that sucks but my body is failing hard and fast and I’m not even old age. I’m so glad I did a lot in my 20s and 30s because I am scared I’ll not make it to 50, let alone 60",
">\n\nNo friends and no interests. And most of my money is in long-term retirement. \nPlus, my medical bills would wipe me out if I quit my job.",
">\n\nAs someone else with no friends or interests I feel this\nExcept I have no investments.",
">\n\n“We’ve already begun work on a comprehensive budget, titled, ‘We hate Democrats Just Because.’ You’ll have it in two weeks.”",
">\n\n\"2 minutes, Turkish\"",
">\n\nIt was 2 minutes 5 minutes ago",
">\n\n\nA Republican budget proposal, the advisers said, should specify whether Republicans would pursue savings through cuts to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, health insurance subsidies, research or public safety spending.\n\nIn other words, you can’t just yell “stop the woke budget!” You have to point out exactly what money is allocated to those causes and then justify why.\nWe all know they won’t do this because they have nothing to point to. So they’ll decry “woke budget!” until the summer and then they will fuck over the country for cheap culture war points.",
">\n\nIt’s absolutely ridiculous. For the past decade at least, Republicans only goal has been to destroy faith in our institutions so they can point out how broken it is and how we need to vote them in to fix it. They are 100% willing to let the government default so they can point to it and say it’s all democrats fault. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. Their constituents religiously watch a single “news” source that tells them exactly what to believe.",
">\n\nWhile ironically calling everyone else around them sheep. Sighhh",
">\n\n“We will block the government from paying debts until you cut spending 😈 What do you think of that Sleepy Joe?”\n“What spending are you going to cut?”\n“Medicare and social securi- uh- I mean no, NO WE WON’T DO THAT! We’ll cut uh… uh… educa- no… uh… the military budg- ahhh our lobbyists need that… we’re gonna cut… something WOKE!”\n“Okay send me a budget.”\n“agggghhhh FUCK YOU JOE!! FUCK YOU!”\nLoving this new GOP that is both toothless and dumb.",
">\n\nThey’re dumb but they aren’t toothless. They can still crater the economy or force this into the (corrupt and right wing) courts and come out with a win.",
">\n\nThere is no world where the debt ceiling doesn’t get raised. It will be raised. The GOP just wants to embarass themselves a bit beforehand it seems",
">\n\nYou’re going to be wrong. They’re that stupid",
">\n\nIn order for the debt ceiling to not be raised, and the US to default on its loans, the Republicans will need almost all their congresspeople to remain opposed to raising it. Even as it causes a recession and blows up all their stock portfolios. \nThe debt ceiling will be raised. But it doesn’t need to be for 6 months. The treasury says it can take extraordinary measures to\nmove money around and pay off debts until June. So the Republicans might just keep refusing to raise the debt ceiling and make a show out of it for a few months.",
">\n\nThat would dominate the news cycles. Yawn.",
">\n\nIt will be produced right after their very beautiful health care plan.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for infrastructure week",
">\n\nInfrastructure week is done. By democrats of course.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"Set Obfuscate Shield to maximum deflection power!\"",
">\n\nLet’s be real, the Republican budget is a picture of Biden they drew a penis on with a Sharpie.",
">\n\nBut they drew it exaggeratedly large so they can see the joke. And now they unironically call him Big Dick Biden because they think he's acting like a huge dick.",
">\n\nTraceable accountability is garlic to the GOP vampire.",
">\n\nDems: \"Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"No!\"\nDems: \"Kevin, be serious here . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"I doan wanna!\nDems: \"C'mon now, Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"You can't make me!!! Just give me what my handlers want or I'm gonna turn on the space lasers!!!\"\n\"Pew! Pew! Pew!\" the Speaker added.",
">\n\nGOP: We want cut waste, fraud and abuse. \nPrez: okay, show us specifics on what you think should be cut.\nGOP: Waste, Fraud and Abuse!\nThey don’t want provide specific answers, because those will be unpopular. Biden asking for specifics, so he can hammer them on those specifics.",
">\n\nExactly and McCarthy is in an impossible position since he had to agree to a rules change in the House that would let a single member launch a challenge to his speakership. Hence his answer on Twitter which you nicely parroted. “Mr. President,” he wrote, “I received your staff’s memo. I’m not interested in political games. I’m coming to negotiate for the American people.”",
">\n\nGoing into a negotiation with a plan? Does uncle Joe even know republicans?",
">\n\nPresident Joe knows that there isn't a single Republican in Congress who can even fake a detailed budget thing in Word/PDF",
">\n\nThey're going to copy and paste last year's budget, and just reduce everything they don't like.",
">\n\nThen they need to say in detail everything they don't like and by how much they would like to reduce it.",
">\n\nHmm... a detailed budget you say?\n|Budget 2024|Amount|\n:--|:--|\n|Wokeness|$0|\n|Awesomeness|$ALL|\nWhy yes, I'd love a prestigious committee assignment. I'm thinking... chair of Ways and Means? Thanks, Kev!!",
">\n\nChatGOP. I’m calling it now.",
">\n\nIf we could actually just go ahead and replace the entire Republican Party with ChatGPT actually, that would be a step up. At least the AI does it’s job. The GOP is the real do-nothing party.",
">\n\nHe wants them to put in writing all the deeply unpopular demands they are making so no one can deny it later on.",
">\n\n“Curses! Foiled Again!” - Kevin McCarthy",
">\n\nGod. McCarthy is so bad at this.",
">\n\nGood move. He knows how difficult it will be for them to produce one, and even if they are capable of spitting something out, it will likely be unpopular and it will have further stressed their internal divisions.",
">\n\nSummary:\nWe need to cut spending on welfare, infrastructure, and local projects in your area, and futher increase handouts to the 1% and corporations and fatten up the military to prepare for more immoral wars like the Iraq War we blatantly lied our way into. \n-Signed The GOP.",
">\n\nYou are dead on. Now it's all about how they shove this pill down their voter's throats without them getting upset."
] |
>
Looks like the Republicans may have caught another car. | [
"It blows my mind Republicans have been campaigning on cutting Social Security, and Medicare and junk that Boomers are now preparing to get or are already getting, and Boomers still support them completely.",
">\n\nI always assumed any cuts would be geared at future benefits for people that are only just starting to pay in.\nAnd one might think, \"well why would people want to deny others of a benefit that they enjoy themselves\", but we already know the answer.",
">\n\nI know I'm in the minority as an elder millennial, I've been working for the past 25 years with no vacations and smart investments so I am more or less financially set.\nBut if social security is cut for my generation I will quit my job on the spot. I'm not going to pay in one more dime. Fuck these boomers who want to destroy the future to enrich themselves.",
">\n\nThat fact that you mentioned no vacations to be financially sound scares me. Don’t do that… there is zero guarantee you’ll make it to retirement age in shape to enjoy it. Enjoy life now",
">\n\nGenX here that followed the same strategy. My health is fucked. \nOn the bright side, I've probably saved enough for retirement because I'm going to die at my desk before I'm 60.",
">\n\nNot too late to change and start enjoying things now. Ive probably fucked myself over on retirement and that sucks but my body is failing hard and fast and I’m not even old age. I’m so glad I did a lot in my 20s and 30s because I am scared I’ll not make it to 50, let alone 60",
">\n\nNo friends and no interests. And most of my money is in long-term retirement. \nPlus, my medical bills would wipe me out if I quit my job.",
">\n\nAs someone else with no friends or interests I feel this\nExcept I have no investments.",
">\n\n“We’ve already begun work on a comprehensive budget, titled, ‘We hate Democrats Just Because.’ You’ll have it in two weeks.”",
">\n\n\"2 minutes, Turkish\"",
">\n\nIt was 2 minutes 5 minutes ago",
">\n\n\nA Republican budget proposal, the advisers said, should specify whether Republicans would pursue savings through cuts to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, health insurance subsidies, research or public safety spending.\n\nIn other words, you can’t just yell “stop the woke budget!” You have to point out exactly what money is allocated to those causes and then justify why.\nWe all know they won’t do this because they have nothing to point to. So they’ll decry “woke budget!” until the summer and then they will fuck over the country for cheap culture war points.",
">\n\nIt’s absolutely ridiculous. For the past decade at least, Republicans only goal has been to destroy faith in our institutions so they can point out how broken it is and how we need to vote them in to fix it. They are 100% willing to let the government default so they can point to it and say it’s all democrats fault. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. Their constituents religiously watch a single “news” source that tells them exactly what to believe.",
">\n\nWhile ironically calling everyone else around them sheep. Sighhh",
">\n\n“We will block the government from paying debts until you cut spending 😈 What do you think of that Sleepy Joe?”\n“What spending are you going to cut?”\n“Medicare and social securi- uh- I mean no, NO WE WON’T DO THAT! We’ll cut uh… uh… educa- no… uh… the military budg- ahhh our lobbyists need that… we’re gonna cut… something WOKE!”\n“Okay send me a budget.”\n“agggghhhh FUCK YOU JOE!! FUCK YOU!”\nLoving this new GOP that is both toothless and dumb.",
">\n\nThey’re dumb but they aren’t toothless. They can still crater the economy or force this into the (corrupt and right wing) courts and come out with a win.",
">\n\nThere is no world where the debt ceiling doesn’t get raised. It will be raised. The GOP just wants to embarass themselves a bit beforehand it seems",
">\n\nYou’re going to be wrong. They’re that stupid",
">\n\nIn order for the debt ceiling to not be raised, and the US to default on its loans, the Republicans will need almost all their congresspeople to remain opposed to raising it. Even as it causes a recession and blows up all their stock portfolios. \nThe debt ceiling will be raised. But it doesn’t need to be for 6 months. The treasury says it can take extraordinary measures to\nmove money around and pay off debts until June. So the Republicans might just keep refusing to raise the debt ceiling and make a show out of it for a few months.",
">\n\nThat would dominate the news cycles. Yawn.",
">\n\nIt will be produced right after their very beautiful health care plan.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for infrastructure week",
">\n\nInfrastructure week is done. By democrats of course.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"Set Obfuscate Shield to maximum deflection power!\"",
">\n\nLet’s be real, the Republican budget is a picture of Biden they drew a penis on with a Sharpie.",
">\n\nBut they drew it exaggeratedly large so they can see the joke. And now they unironically call him Big Dick Biden because they think he's acting like a huge dick.",
">\n\nTraceable accountability is garlic to the GOP vampire.",
">\n\nDems: \"Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"No!\"\nDems: \"Kevin, be serious here . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"I doan wanna!\nDems: \"C'mon now, Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"You can't make me!!! Just give me what my handlers want or I'm gonna turn on the space lasers!!!\"\n\"Pew! Pew! Pew!\" the Speaker added.",
">\n\nGOP: We want cut waste, fraud and abuse. \nPrez: okay, show us specifics on what you think should be cut.\nGOP: Waste, Fraud and Abuse!\nThey don’t want provide specific answers, because those will be unpopular. Biden asking for specifics, so he can hammer them on those specifics.",
">\n\nExactly and McCarthy is in an impossible position since he had to agree to a rules change in the House that would let a single member launch a challenge to his speakership. Hence his answer on Twitter which you nicely parroted. “Mr. President,” he wrote, “I received your staff’s memo. I’m not interested in political games. I’m coming to negotiate for the American people.”",
">\n\nGoing into a negotiation with a plan? Does uncle Joe even know republicans?",
">\n\nPresident Joe knows that there isn't a single Republican in Congress who can even fake a detailed budget thing in Word/PDF",
">\n\nThey're going to copy and paste last year's budget, and just reduce everything they don't like.",
">\n\nThen they need to say in detail everything they don't like and by how much they would like to reduce it.",
">\n\nHmm... a detailed budget you say?\n|Budget 2024|Amount|\n:--|:--|\n|Wokeness|$0|\n|Awesomeness|$ALL|\nWhy yes, I'd love a prestigious committee assignment. I'm thinking... chair of Ways and Means? Thanks, Kev!!",
">\n\nChatGOP. I’m calling it now.",
">\n\nIf we could actually just go ahead and replace the entire Republican Party with ChatGPT actually, that would be a step up. At least the AI does it’s job. The GOP is the real do-nothing party.",
">\n\nHe wants them to put in writing all the deeply unpopular demands they are making so no one can deny it later on.",
">\n\n“Curses! Foiled Again!” - Kevin McCarthy",
">\n\nGod. McCarthy is so bad at this.",
">\n\nGood move. He knows how difficult it will be for them to produce one, and even if they are capable of spitting something out, it will likely be unpopular and it will have further stressed their internal divisions.",
">\n\nSummary:\nWe need to cut spending on welfare, infrastructure, and local projects in your area, and futher increase handouts to the 1% and corporations and fatten up the military to prepare for more immoral wars like the Iraq War we blatantly lied our way into. \n-Signed The GOP.",
">\n\nYou are dead on. Now it's all about how they shove this pill down their voter's throats without them getting upset.",
">\n\nIt's hilarious that you have to remind the Republicans to make sure they bring an agenda to the meeting for the things they want."
] |
>
You mean with like numbers and stuff??? That's a tall order from this bunch of dropouts. | [
"It blows my mind Republicans have been campaigning on cutting Social Security, and Medicare and junk that Boomers are now preparing to get or are already getting, and Boomers still support them completely.",
">\n\nI always assumed any cuts would be geared at future benefits for people that are only just starting to pay in.\nAnd one might think, \"well why would people want to deny others of a benefit that they enjoy themselves\", but we already know the answer.",
">\n\nI know I'm in the minority as an elder millennial, I've been working for the past 25 years with no vacations and smart investments so I am more or less financially set.\nBut if social security is cut for my generation I will quit my job on the spot. I'm not going to pay in one more dime. Fuck these boomers who want to destroy the future to enrich themselves.",
">\n\nThat fact that you mentioned no vacations to be financially sound scares me. Don’t do that… there is zero guarantee you’ll make it to retirement age in shape to enjoy it. Enjoy life now",
">\n\nGenX here that followed the same strategy. My health is fucked. \nOn the bright side, I've probably saved enough for retirement because I'm going to die at my desk before I'm 60.",
">\n\nNot too late to change and start enjoying things now. Ive probably fucked myself over on retirement and that sucks but my body is failing hard and fast and I’m not even old age. I’m so glad I did a lot in my 20s and 30s because I am scared I’ll not make it to 50, let alone 60",
">\n\nNo friends and no interests. And most of my money is in long-term retirement. \nPlus, my medical bills would wipe me out if I quit my job.",
">\n\nAs someone else with no friends or interests I feel this\nExcept I have no investments.",
">\n\n“We’ve already begun work on a comprehensive budget, titled, ‘We hate Democrats Just Because.’ You’ll have it in two weeks.”",
">\n\n\"2 minutes, Turkish\"",
">\n\nIt was 2 minutes 5 minutes ago",
">\n\n\nA Republican budget proposal, the advisers said, should specify whether Republicans would pursue savings through cuts to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, health insurance subsidies, research or public safety spending.\n\nIn other words, you can’t just yell “stop the woke budget!” You have to point out exactly what money is allocated to those causes and then justify why.\nWe all know they won’t do this because they have nothing to point to. So they’ll decry “woke budget!” until the summer and then they will fuck over the country for cheap culture war points.",
">\n\nIt’s absolutely ridiculous. For the past decade at least, Republicans only goal has been to destroy faith in our institutions so they can point out how broken it is and how we need to vote them in to fix it. They are 100% willing to let the government default so they can point to it and say it’s all democrats fault. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. Their constituents religiously watch a single “news” source that tells them exactly what to believe.",
">\n\nWhile ironically calling everyone else around them sheep. Sighhh",
">\n\n“We will block the government from paying debts until you cut spending 😈 What do you think of that Sleepy Joe?”\n“What spending are you going to cut?”\n“Medicare and social securi- uh- I mean no, NO WE WON’T DO THAT! We’ll cut uh… uh… educa- no… uh… the military budg- ahhh our lobbyists need that… we’re gonna cut… something WOKE!”\n“Okay send me a budget.”\n“agggghhhh FUCK YOU JOE!! FUCK YOU!”\nLoving this new GOP that is both toothless and dumb.",
">\n\nThey’re dumb but they aren’t toothless. They can still crater the economy or force this into the (corrupt and right wing) courts and come out with a win.",
">\n\nThere is no world where the debt ceiling doesn’t get raised. It will be raised. The GOP just wants to embarass themselves a bit beforehand it seems",
">\n\nYou’re going to be wrong. They’re that stupid",
">\n\nIn order for the debt ceiling to not be raised, and the US to default on its loans, the Republicans will need almost all their congresspeople to remain opposed to raising it. Even as it causes a recession and blows up all their stock portfolios. \nThe debt ceiling will be raised. But it doesn’t need to be for 6 months. The treasury says it can take extraordinary measures to\nmove money around and pay off debts until June. So the Republicans might just keep refusing to raise the debt ceiling and make a show out of it for a few months.",
">\n\nThat would dominate the news cycles. Yawn.",
">\n\nIt will be produced right after their very beautiful health care plan.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for infrastructure week",
">\n\nInfrastructure week is done. By democrats of course.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"Set Obfuscate Shield to maximum deflection power!\"",
">\n\nLet’s be real, the Republican budget is a picture of Biden they drew a penis on with a Sharpie.",
">\n\nBut they drew it exaggeratedly large so they can see the joke. And now they unironically call him Big Dick Biden because they think he's acting like a huge dick.",
">\n\nTraceable accountability is garlic to the GOP vampire.",
">\n\nDems: \"Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"No!\"\nDems: \"Kevin, be serious here . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"I doan wanna!\nDems: \"C'mon now, Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"You can't make me!!! Just give me what my handlers want or I'm gonna turn on the space lasers!!!\"\n\"Pew! Pew! Pew!\" the Speaker added.",
">\n\nGOP: We want cut waste, fraud and abuse. \nPrez: okay, show us specifics on what you think should be cut.\nGOP: Waste, Fraud and Abuse!\nThey don’t want provide specific answers, because those will be unpopular. Biden asking for specifics, so he can hammer them on those specifics.",
">\n\nExactly and McCarthy is in an impossible position since he had to agree to a rules change in the House that would let a single member launch a challenge to his speakership. Hence his answer on Twitter which you nicely parroted. “Mr. President,” he wrote, “I received your staff’s memo. I’m not interested in political games. I’m coming to negotiate for the American people.”",
">\n\nGoing into a negotiation with a plan? Does uncle Joe even know republicans?",
">\n\nPresident Joe knows that there isn't a single Republican in Congress who can even fake a detailed budget thing in Word/PDF",
">\n\nThey're going to copy and paste last year's budget, and just reduce everything they don't like.",
">\n\nThen they need to say in detail everything they don't like and by how much they would like to reduce it.",
">\n\nHmm... a detailed budget you say?\n|Budget 2024|Amount|\n:--|:--|\n|Wokeness|$0|\n|Awesomeness|$ALL|\nWhy yes, I'd love a prestigious committee assignment. I'm thinking... chair of Ways and Means? Thanks, Kev!!",
">\n\nChatGOP. I’m calling it now.",
">\n\nIf we could actually just go ahead and replace the entire Republican Party with ChatGPT actually, that would be a step up. At least the AI does it’s job. The GOP is the real do-nothing party.",
">\n\nHe wants them to put in writing all the deeply unpopular demands they are making so no one can deny it later on.",
">\n\n“Curses! Foiled Again!” - Kevin McCarthy",
">\n\nGod. McCarthy is so bad at this.",
">\n\nGood move. He knows how difficult it will be for them to produce one, and even if they are capable of spitting something out, it will likely be unpopular and it will have further stressed their internal divisions.",
">\n\nSummary:\nWe need to cut spending on welfare, infrastructure, and local projects in your area, and futher increase handouts to the 1% and corporations and fatten up the military to prepare for more immoral wars like the Iraq War we blatantly lied our way into. \n-Signed The GOP.",
">\n\nYou are dead on. Now it's all about how they shove this pill down their voter's throats without them getting upset.",
">\n\nIt's hilarious that you have to remind the Republicans to make sure they bring an agenda to the meeting for the things they want.",
">\n\nLooks like the Republicans may have caught another car."
] |
>
For Debt Ceiling Negotiation
Excuse me? | [
"It blows my mind Republicans have been campaigning on cutting Social Security, and Medicare and junk that Boomers are now preparing to get or are already getting, and Boomers still support them completely.",
">\n\nI always assumed any cuts would be geared at future benefits for people that are only just starting to pay in.\nAnd one might think, \"well why would people want to deny others of a benefit that they enjoy themselves\", but we already know the answer.",
">\n\nI know I'm in the minority as an elder millennial, I've been working for the past 25 years with no vacations and smart investments so I am more or less financially set.\nBut if social security is cut for my generation I will quit my job on the spot. I'm not going to pay in one more dime. Fuck these boomers who want to destroy the future to enrich themselves.",
">\n\nThat fact that you mentioned no vacations to be financially sound scares me. Don’t do that… there is zero guarantee you’ll make it to retirement age in shape to enjoy it. Enjoy life now",
">\n\nGenX here that followed the same strategy. My health is fucked. \nOn the bright side, I've probably saved enough for retirement because I'm going to die at my desk before I'm 60.",
">\n\nNot too late to change and start enjoying things now. Ive probably fucked myself over on retirement and that sucks but my body is failing hard and fast and I’m not even old age. I’m so glad I did a lot in my 20s and 30s because I am scared I’ll not make it to 50, let alone 60",
">\n\nNo friends and no interests. And most of my money is in long-term retirement. \nPlus, my medical bills would wipe me out if I quit my job.",
">\n\nAs someone else with no friends or interests I feel this\nExcept I have no investments.",
">\n\n“We’ve already begun work on a comprehensive budget, titled, ‘We hate Democrats Just Because.’ You’ll have it in two weeks.”",
">\n\n\"2 minutes, Turkish\"",
">\n\nIt was 2 minutes 5 minutes ago",
">\n\n\nA Republican budget proposal, the advisers said, should specify whether Republicans would pursue savings through cuts to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, health insurance subsidies, research or public safety spending.\n\nIn other words, you can’t just yell “stop the woke budget!” You have to point out exactly what money is allocated to those causes and then justify why.\nWe all know they won’t do this because they have nothing to point to. So they’ll decry “woke budget!” until the summer and then they will fuck over the country for cheap culture war points.",
">\n\nIt’s absolutely ridiculous. For the past decade at least, Republicans only goal has been to destroy faith in our institutions so they can point out how broken it is and how we need to vote them in to fix it. They are 100% willing to let the government default so they can point to it and say it’s all democrats fault. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. Their constituents religiously watch a single “news” source that tells them exactly what to believe.",
">\n\nWhile ironically calling everyone else around them sheep. Sighhh",
">\n\n“We will block the government from paying debts until you cut spending 😈 What do you think of that Sleepy Joe?”\n“What spending are you going to cut?”\n“Medicare and social securi- uh- I mean no, NO WE WON’T DO THAT! We’ll cut uh… uh… educa- no… uh… the military budg- ahhh our lobbyists need that… we’re gonna cut… something WOKE!”\n“Okay send me a budget.”\n“agggghhhh FUCK YOU JOE!! FUCK YOU!”\nLoving this new GOP that is both toothless and dumb.",
">\n\nThey’re dumb but they aren’t toothless. They can still crater the economy or force this into the (corrupt and right wing) courts and come out with a win.",
">\n\nThere is no world where the debt ceiling doesn’t get raised. It will be raised. The GOP just wants to embarass themselves a bit beforehand it seems",
">\n\nYou’re going to be wrong. They’re that stupid",
">\n\nIn order for the debt ceiling to not be raised, and the US to default on its loans, the Republicans will need almost all their congresspeople to remain opposed to raising it. Even as it causes a recession and blows up all their stock portfolios. \nThe debt ceiling will be raised. But it doesn’t need to be for 6 months. The treasury says it can take extraordinary measures to\nmove money around and pay off debts until June. So the Republicans might just keep refusing to raise the debt ceiling and make a show out of it for a few months.",
">\n\nThat would dominate the news cycles. Yawn.",
">\n\nIt will be produced right after their very beautiful health care plan.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for infrastructure week",
">\n\nInfrastructure week is done. By democrats of course.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"Set Obfuscate Shield to maximum deflection power!\"",
">\n\nLet’s be real, the Republican budget is a picture of Biden they drew a penis on with a Sharpie.",
">\n\nBut they drew it exaggeratedly large so they can see the joke. And now they unironically call him Big Dick Biden because they think he's acting like a huge dick.",
">\n\nTraceable accountability is garlic to the GOP vampire.",
">\n\nDems: \"Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"No!\"\nDems: \"Kevin, be serious here . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"I doan wanna!\nDems: \"C'mon now, Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"You can't make me!!! Just give me what my handlers want or I'm gonna turn on the space lasers!!!\"\n\"Pew! Pew! Pew!\" the Speaker added.",
">\n\nGOP: We want cut waste, fraud and abuse. \nPrez: okay, show us specifics on what you think should be cut.\nGOP: Waste, Fraud and Abuse!\nThey don’t want provide specific answers, because those will be unpopular. Biden asking for specifics, so he can hammer them on those specifics.",
">\n\nExactly and McCarthy is in an impossible position since he had to agree to a rules change in the House that would let a single member launch a challenge to his speakership. Hence his answer on Twitter which you nicely parroted. “Mr. President,” he wrote, “I received your staff’s memo. I’m not interested in political games. I’m coming to negotiate for the American people.”",
">\n\nGoing into a negotiation with a plan? Does uncle Joe even know republicans?",
">\n\nPresident Joe knows that there isn't a single Republican in Congress who can even fake a detailed budget thing in Word/PDF",
">\n\nThey're going to copy and paste last year's budget, and just reduce everything they don't like.",
">\n\nThen they need to say in detail everything they don't like and by how much they would like to reduce it.",
">\n\nHmm... a detailed budget you say?\n|Budget 2024|Amount|\n:--|:--|\n|Wokeness|$0|\n|Awesomeness|$ALL|\nWhy yes, I'd love a prestigious committee assignment. I'm thinking... chair of Ways and Means? Thanks, Kev!!",
">\n\nChatGOP. I’m calling it now.",
">\n\nIf we could actually just go ahead and replace the entire Republican Party with ChatGPT actually, that would be a step up. At least the AI does it’s job. The GOP is the real do-nothing party.",
">\n\nHe wants them to put in writing all the deeply unpopular demands they are making so no one can deny it later on.",
">\n\n“Curses! Foiled Again!” - Kevin McCarthy",
">\n\nGod. McCarthy is so bad at this.",
">\n\nGood move. He knows how difficult it will be for them to produce one, and even if they are capable of spitting something out, it will likely be unpopular and it will have further stressed their internal divisions.",
">\n\nSummary:\nWe need to cut spending on welfare, infrastructure, and local projects in your area, and futher increase handouts to the 1% and corporations and fatten up the military to prepare for more immoral wars like the Iraq War we blatantly lied our way into. \n-Signed The GOP.",
">\n\nYou are dead on. Now it's all about how they shove this pill down their voter's throats without them getting upset.",
">\n\nIt's hilarious that you have to remind the Republicans to make sure they bring an agenda to the meeting for the things they want.",
">\n\nLooks like the Republicans may have caught another car.",
">\n\nYou mean with like numbers and stuff??? That's a tall order from this bunch of dropouts."
] |
>
But that involves actual work, instead of just shit-talking the Dems. | [
"It blows my mind Republicans have been campaigning on cutting Social Security, and Medicare and junk that Boomers are now preparing to get or are already getting, and Boomers still support them completely.",
">\n\nI always assumed any cuts would be geared at future benefits for people that are only just starting to pay in.\nAnd one might think, \"well why would people want to deny others of a benefit that they enjoy themselves\", but we already know the answer.",
">\n\nI know I'm in the minority as an elder millennial, I've been working for the past 25 years with no vacations and smart investments so I am more or less financially set.\nBut if social security is cut for my generation I will quit my job on the spot. I'm not going to pay in one more dime. Fuck these boomers who want to destroy the future to enrich themselves.",
">\n\nThat fact that you mentioned no vacations to be financially sound scares me. Don’t do that… there is zero guarantee you’ll make it to retirement age in shape to enjoy it. Enjoy life now",
">\n\nGenX here that followed the same strategy. My health is fucked. \nOn the bright side, I've probably saved enough for retirement because I'm going to die at my desk before I'm 60.",
">\n\nNot too late to change and start enjoying things now. Ive probably fucked myself over on retirement and that sucks but my body is failing hard and fast and I’m not even old age. I’m so glad I did a lot in my 20s and 30s because I am scared I’ll not make it to 50, let alone 60",
">\n\nNo friends and no interests. And most of my money is in long-term retirement. \nPlus, my medical bills would wipe me out if I quit my job.",
">\n\nAs someone else with no friends or interests I feel this\nExcept I have no investments.",
">\n\n“We’ve already begun work on a comprehensive budget, titled, ‘We hate Democrats Just Because.’ You’ll have it in two weeks.”",
">\n\n\"2 minutes, Turkish\"",
">\n\nIt was 2 minutes 5 minutes ago",
">\n\n\nA Republican budget proposal, the advisers said, should specify whether Republicans would pursue savings through cuts to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, health insurance subsidies, research or public safety spending.\n\nIn other words, you can’t just yell “stop the woke budget!” You have to point out exactly what money is allocated to those causes and then justify why.\nWe all know they won’t do this because they have nothing to point to. So they’ll decry “woke budget!” until the summer and then they will fuck over the country for cheap culture war points.",
">\n\nIt’s absolutely ridiculous. For the past decade at least, Republicans only goal has been to destroy faith in our institutions so they can point out how broken it is and how we need to vote them in to fix it. They are 100% willing to let the government default so they can point to it and say it’s all democrats fault. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. Their constituents religiously watch a single “news” source that tells them exactly what to believe.",
">\n\nWhile ironically calling everyone else around them sheep. Sighhh",
">\n\n“We will block the government from paying debts until you cut spending 😈 What do you think of that Sleepy Joe?”\n“What spending are you going to cut?”\n“Medicare and social securi- uh- I mean no, NO WE WON’T DO THAT! We’ll cut uh… uh… educa- no… uh… the military budg- ahhh our lobbyists need that… we’re gonna cut… something WOKE!”\n“Okay send me a budget.”\n“agggghhhh FUCK YOU JOE!! FUCK YOU!”\nLoving this new GOP that is both toothless and dumb.",
">\n\nThey’re dumb but they aren’t toothless. They can still crater the economy or force this into the (corrupt and right wing) courts and come out with a win.",
">\n\nThere is no world where the debt ceiling doesn’t get raised. It will be raised. The GOP just wants to embarass themselves a bit beforehand it seems",
">\n\nYou’re going to be wrong. They’re that stupid",
">\n\nIn order for the debt ceiling to not be raised, and the US to default on its loans, the Republicans will need almost all their congresspeople to remain opposed to raising it. Even as it causes a recession and blows up all their stock portfolios. \nThe debt ceiling will be raised. But it doesn’t need to be for 6 months. The treasury says it can take extraordinary measures to\nmove money around and pay off debts until June. So the Republicans might just keep refusing to raise the debt ceiling and make a show out of it for a few months.",
">\n\nThat would dominate the news cycles. Yawn.",
">\n\nIt will be produced right after their very beautiful health care plan.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for infrastructure week",
">\n\nInfrastructure week is done. By democrats of course.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"Set Obfuscate Shield to maximum deflection power!\"",
">\n\nLet’s be real, the Republican budget is a picture of Biden they drew a penis on with a Sharpie.",
">\n\nBut they drew it exaggeratedly large so they can see the joke. And now they unironically call him Big Dick Biden because they think he's acting like a huge dick.",
">\n\nTraceable accountability is garlic to the GOP vampire.",
">\n\nDems: \"Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"No!\"\nDems: \"Kevin, be serious here . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"I doan wanna!\nDems: \"C'mon now, Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"You can't make me!!! Just give me what my handlers want or I'm gonna turn on the space lasers!!!\"\n\"Pew! Pew! Pew!\" the Speaker added.",
">\n\nGOP: We want cut waste, fraud and abuse. \nPrez: okay, show us specifics on what you think should be cut.\nGOP: Waste, Fraud and Abuse!\nThey don’t want provide specific answers, because those will be unpopular. Biden asking for specifics, so he can hammer them on those specifics.",
">\n\nExactly and McCarthy is in an impossible position since he had to agree to a rules change in the House that would let a single member launch a challenge to his speakership. Hence his answer on Twitter which you nicely parroted. “Mr. President,” he wrote, “I received your staff’s memo. I’m not interested in political games. I’m coming to negotiate for the American people.”",
">\n\nGoing into a negotiation with a plan? Does uncle Joe even know republicans?",
">\n\nPresident Joe knows that there isn't a single Republican in Congress who can even fake a detailed budget thing in Word/PDF",
">\n\nThey're going to copy and paste last year's budget, and just reduce everything they don't like.",
">\n\nThen they need to say in detail everything they don't like and by how much they would like to reduce it.",
">\n\nHmm... a detailed budget you say?\n|Budget 2024|Amount|\n:--|:--|\n|Wokeness|$0|\n|Awesomeness|$ALL|\nWhy yes, I'd love a prestigious committee assignment. I'm thinking... chair of Ways and Means? Thanks, Kev!!",
">\n\nChatGOP. I’m calling it now.",
">\n\nIf we could actually just go ahead and replace the entire Republican Party with ChatGPT actually, that would be a step up. At least the AI does it’s job. The GOP is the real do-nothing party.",
">\n\nHe wants them to put in writing all the deeply unpopular demands they are making so no one can deny it later on.",
">\n\n“Curses! Foiled Again!” - Kevin McCarthy",
">\n\nGod. McCarthy is so bad at this.",
">\n\nGood move. He knows how difficult it will be for them to produce one, and even if they are capable of spitting something out, it will likely be unpopular and it will have further stressed their internal divisions.",
">\n\nSummary:\nWe need to cut spending on welfare, infrastructure, and local projects in your area, and futher increase handouts to the 1% and corporations and fatten up the military to prepare for more immoral wars like the Iraq War we blatantly lied our way into. \n-Signed The GOP.",
">\n\nYou are dead on. Now it's all about how they shove this pill down their voter's throats without them getting upset.",
">\n\nIt's hilarious that you have to remind the Republicans to make sure they bring an agenda to the meeting for the things they want.",
">\n\nLooks like the Republicans may have caught another car.",
">\n\nYou mean with like numbers and stuff??? That's a tall order from this bunch of dropouts.",
">\n\n\nFor Debt Ceiling Negotiation\n\nExcuse me?"
] |
>
Guessing the Republicans will produce nothing or something that is completely ridiculous. Republicans remind me of the kid on the school group project who refuses to work with the group and then when the presentation is due they say "Well that was a shit show, I could have done way better just by myself." | [
"It blows my mind Republicans have been campaigning on cutting Social Security, and Medicare and junk that Boomers are now preparing to get or are already getting, and Boomers still support them completely.",
">\n\nI always assumed any cuts would be geared at future benefits for people that are only just starting to pay in.\nAnd one might think, \"well why would people want to deny others of a benefit that they enjoy themselves\", but we already know the answer.",
">\n\nI know I'm in the minority as an elder millennial, I've been working for the past 25 years with no vacations and smart investments so I am more or less financially set.\nBut if social security is cut for my generation I will quit my job on the spot. I'm not going to pay in one more dime. Fuck these boomers who want to destroy the future to enrich themselves.",
">\n\nThat fact that you mentioned no vacations to be financially sound scares me. Don’t do that… there is zero guarantee you’ll make it to retirement age in shape to enjoy it. Enjoy life now",
">\n\nGenX here that followed the same strategy. My health is fucked. \nOn the bright side, I've probably saved enough for retirement because I'm going to die at my desk before I'm 60.",
">\n\nNot too late to change and start enjoying things now. Ive probably fucked myself over on retirement and that sucks but my body is failing hard and fast and I’m not even old age. I’m so glad I did a lot in my 20s and 30s because I am scared I’ll not make it to 50, let alone 60",
">\n\nNo friends and no interests. And most of my money is in long-term retirement. \nPlus, my medical bills would wipe me out if I quit my job.",
">\n\nAs someone else with no friends or interests I feel this\nExcept I have no investments.",
">\n\n“We’ve already begun work on a comprehensive budget, titled, ‘We hate Democrats Just Because.’ You’ll have it in two weeks.”",
">\n\n\"2 minutes, Turkish\"",
">\n\nIt was 2 minutes 5 minutes ago",
">\n\n\nA Republican budget proposal, the advisers said, should specify whether Republicans would pursue savings through cuts to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, health insurance subsidies, research or public safety spending.\n\nIn other words, you can’t just yell “stop the woke budget!” You have to point out exactly what money is allocated to those causes and then justify why.\nWe all know they won’t do this because they have nothing to point to. So they’ll decry “woke budget!” until the summer and then they will fuck over the country for cheap culture war points.",
">\n\nIt’s absolutely ridiculous. For the past decade at least, Republicans only goal has been to destroy faith in our institutions so they can point out how broken it is and how we need to vote them in to fix it. They are 100% willing to let the government default so they can point to it and say it’s all democrats fault. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. Their constituents religiously watch a single “news” source that tells them exactly what to believe.",
">\n\nWhile ironically calling everyone else around them sheep. Sighhh",
">\n\n“We will block the government from paying debts until you cut spending 😈 What do you think of that Sleepy Joe?”\n“What spending are you going to cut?”\n“Medicare and social securi- uh- I mean no, NO WE WON’T DO THAT! We’ll cut uh… uh… educa- no… uh… the military budg- ahhh our lobbyists need that… we’re gonna cut… something WOKE!”\n“Okay send me a budget.”\n“agggghhhh FUCK YOU JOE!! FUCK YOU!”\nLoving this new GOP that is both toothless and dumb.",
">\n\nThey’re dumb but they aren’t toothless. They can still crater the economy or force this into the (corrupt and right wing) courts and come out with a win.",
">\n\nThere is no world where the debt ceiling doesn’t get raised. It will be raised. The GOP just wants to embarass themselves a bit beforehand it seems",
">\n\nYou’re going to be wrong. They’re that stupid",
">\n\nIn order for the debt ceiling to not be raised, and the US to default on its loans, the Republicans will need almost all their congresspeople to remain opposed to raising it. Even as it causes a recession and blows up all their stock portfolios. \nThe debt ceiling will be raised. But it doesn’t need to be for 6 months. The treasury says it can take extraordinary measures to\nmove money around and pay off debts until June. So the Republicans might just keep refusing to raise the debt ceiling and make a show out of it for a few months.",
">\n\nThat would dominate the news cycles. Yawn.",
">\n\nIt will be produced right after their very beautiful health care plan.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for infrastructure week",
">\n\nInfrastructure week is done. By democrats of course.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"Set Obfuscate Shield to maximum deflection power!\"",
">\n\nLet’s be real, the Republican budget is a picture of Biden they drew a penis on with a Sharpie.",
">\n\nBut they drew it exaggeratedly large so they can see the joke. And now they unironically call him Big Dick Biden because they think he's acting like a huge dick.",
">\n\nTraceable accountability is garlic to the GOP vampire.",
">\n\nDems: \"Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"No!\"\nDems: \"Kevin, be serious here . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"I doan wanna!\nDems: \"C'mon now, Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"You can't make me!!! Just give me what my handlers want or I'm gonna turn on the space lasers!!!\"\n\"Pew! Pew! Pew!\" the Speaker added.",
">\n\nGOP: We want cut waste, fraud and abuse. \nPrez: okay, show us specifics on what you think should be cut.\nGOP: Waste, Fraud and Abuse!\nThey don’t want provide specific answers, because those will be unpopular. Biden asking for specifics, so he can hammer them on those specifics.",
">\n\nExactly and McCarthy is in an impossible position since he had to agree to a rules change in the House that would let a single member launch a challenge to his speakership. Hence his answer on Twitter which you nicely parroted. “Mr. President,” he wrote, “I received your staff’s memo. I’m not interested in political games. I’m coming to negotiate for the American people.”",
">\n\nGoing into a negotiation with a plan? Does uncle Joe even know republicans?",
">\n\nPresident Joe knows that there isn't a single Republican in Congress who can even fake a detailed budget thing in Word/PDF",
">\n\nThey're going to copy and paste last year's budget, and just reduce everything they don't like.",
">\n\nThen they need to say in detail everything they don't like and by how much they would like to reduce it.",
">\n\nHmm... a detailed budget you say?\n|Budget 2024|Amount|\n:--|:--|\n|Wokeness|$0|\n|Awesomeness|$ALL|\nWhy yes, I'd love a prestigious committee assignment. I'm thinking... chair of Ways and Means? Thanks, Kev!!",
">\n\nChatGOP. I’m calling it now.",
">\n\nIf we could actually just go ahead and replace the entire Republican Party with ChatGPT actually, that would be a step up. At least the AI does it’s job. The GOP is the real do-nothing party.",
">\n\nHe wants them to put in writing all the deeply unpopular demands they are making so no one can deny it later on.",
">\n\n“Curses! Foiled Again!” - Kevin McCarthy",
">\n\nGod. McCarthy is so bad at this.",
">\n\nGood move. He knows how difficult it will be for them to produce one, and even if they are capable of spitting something out, it will likely be unpopular and it will have further stressed their internal divisions.",
">\n\nSummary:\nWe need to cut spending on welfare, infrastructure, and local projects in your area, and futher increase handouts to the 1% and corporations and fatten up the military to prepare for more immoral wars like the Iraq War we blatantly lied our way into. \n-Signed The GOP.",
">\n\nYou are dead on. Now it's all about how they shove this pill down their voter's throats without them getting upset.",
">\n\nIt's hilarious that you have to remind the Republicans to make sure they bring an agenda to the meeting for the things they want.",
">\n\nLooks like the Republicans may have caught another car.",
">\n\nYou mean with like numbers and stuff??? That's a tall order from this bunch of dropouts.",
">\n\n\nFor Debt Ceiling Negotiation\n\nExcuse me?",
">\n\nBut that involves actual work, instead of just shit-talking the Dems."
] |
>
Hope the White House provided them with a coloring book and crayons. | [
"It blows my mind Republicans have been campaigning on cutting Social Security, and Medicare and junk that Boomers are now preparing to get or are already getting, and Boomers still support them completely.",
">\n\nI always assumed any cuts would be geared at future benefits for people that are only just starting to pay in.\nAnd one might think, \"well why would people want to deny others of a benefit that they enjoy themselves\", but we already know the answer.",
">\n\nI know I'm in the minority as an elder millennial, I've been working for the past 25 years with no vacations and smart investments so I am more or less financially set.\nBut if social security is cut for my generation I will quit my job on the spot. I'm not going to pay in one more dime. Fuck these boomers who want to destroy the future to enrich themselves.",
">\n\nThat fact that you mentioned no vacations to be financially sound scares me. Don’t do that… there is zero guarantee you’ll make it to retirement age in shape to enjoy it. Enjoy life now",
">\n\nGenX here that followed the same strategy. My health is fucked. \nOn the bright side, I've probably saved enough for retirement because I'm going to die at my desk before I'm 60.",
">\n\nNot too late to change and start enjoying things now. Ive probably fucked myself over on retirement and that sucks but my body is failing hard and fast and I’m not even old age. I’m so glad I did a lot in my 20s and 30s because I am scared I’ll not make it to 50, let alone 60",
">\n\nNo friends and no interests. And most of my money is in long-term retirement. \nPlus, my medical bills would wipe me out if I quit my job.",
">\n\nAs someone else with no friends or interests I feel this\nExcept I have no investments.",
">\n\n“We’ve already begun work on a comprehensive budget, titled, ‘We hate Democrats Just Because.’ You’ll have it in two weeks.”",
">\n\n\"2 minutes, Turkish\"",
">\n\nIt was 2 minutes 5 minutes ago",
">\n\n\nA Republican budget proposal, the advisers said, should specify whether Republicans would pursue savings through cuts to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, health insurance subsidies, research or public safety spending.\n\nIn other words, you can’t just yell “stop the woke budget!” You have to point out exactly what money is allocated to those causes and then justify why.\nWe all know they won’t do this because they have nothing to point to. So they’ll decry “woke budget!” until the summer and then they will fuck over the country for cheap culture war points.",
">\n\nIt’s absolutely ridiculous. For the past decade at least, Republicans only goal has been to destroy faith in our institutions so they can point out how broken it is and how we need to vote them in to fix it. They are 100% willing to let the government default so they can point to it and say it’s all democrats fault. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. Their constituents religiously watch a single “news” source that tells them exactly what to believe.",
">\n\nWhile ironically calling everyone else around them sheep. Sighhh",
">\n\n“We will block the government from paying debts until you cut spending 😈 What do you think of that Sleepy Joe?”\n“What spending are you going to cut?”\n“Medicare and social securi- uh- I mean no, NO WE WON’T DO THAT! We’ll cut uh… uh… educa- no… uh… the military budg- ahhh our lobbyists need that… we’re gonna cut… something WOKE!”\n“Okay send me a budget.”\n“agggghhhh FUCK YOU JOE!! FUCK YOU!”\nLoving this new GOP that is both toothless and dumb.",
">\n\nThey’re dumb but they aren’t toothless. They can still crater the economy or force this into the (corrupt and right wing) courts and come out with a win.",
">\n\nThere is no world where the debt ceiling doesn’t get raised. It will be raised. The GOP just wants to embarass themselves a bit beforehand it seems",
">\n\nYou’re going to be wrong. They’re that stupid",
">\n\nIn order for the debt ceiling to not be raised, and the US to default on its loans, the Republicans will need almost all their congresspeople to remain opposed to raising it. Even as it causes a recession and blows up all their stock portfolios. \nThe debt ceiling will be raised. But it doesn’t need to be for 6 months. The treasury says it can take extraordinary measures to\nmove money around and pay off debts until June. So the Republicans might just keep refusing to raise the debt ceiling and make a show out of it for a few months.",
">\n\nThat would dominate the news cycles. Yawn.",
">\n\nIt will be produced right after their very beautiful health care plan.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for infrastructure week",
">\n\nInfrastructure week is done. By democrats of course.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"Set Obfuscate Shield to maximum deflection power!\"",
">\n\nLet’s be real, the Republican budget is a picture of Biden they drew a penis on with a Sharpie.",
">\n\nBut they drew it exaggeratedly large so they can see the joke. And now they unironically call him Big Dick Biden because they think he's acting like a huge dick.",
">\n\nTraceable accountability is garlic to the GOP vampire.",
">\n\nDems: \"Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"No!\"\nDems: \"Kevin, be serious here . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"I doan wanna!\nDems: \"C'mon now, Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"You can't make me!!! Just give me what my handlers want or I'm gonna turn on the space lasers!!!\"\n\"Pew! Pew! Pew!\" the Speaker added.",
">\n\nGOP: We want cut waste, fraud and abuse. \nPrez: okay, show us specifics on what you think should be cut.\nGOP: Waste, Fraud and Abuse!\nThey don’t want provide specific answers, because those will be unpopular. Biden asking for specifics, so he can hammer them on those specifics.",
">\n\nExactly and McCarthy is in an impossible position since he had to agree to a rules change in the House that would let a single member launch a challenge to his speakership. Hence his answer on Twitter which you nicely parroted. “Mr. President,” he wrote, “I received your staff’s memo. I’m not interested in political games. I’m coming to negotiate for the American people.”",
">\n\nGoing into a negotiation with a plan? Does uncle Joe even know republicans?",
">\n\nPresident Joe knows that there isn't a single Republican in Congress who can even fake a detailed budget thing in Word/PDF",
">\n\nThey're going to copy and paste last year's budget, and just reduce everything they don't like.",
">\n\nThen they need to say in detail everything they don't like and by how much they would like to reduce it.",
">\n\nHmm... a detailed budget you say?\n|Budget 2024|Amount|\n:--|:--|\n|Wokeness|$0|\n|Awesomeness|$ALL|\nWhy yes, I'd love a prestigious committee assignment. I'm thinking... chair of Ways and Means? Thanks, Kev!!",
">\n\nChatGOP. I’m calling it now.",
">\n\nIf we could actually just go ahead and replace the entire Republican Party with ChatGPT actually, that would be a step up. At least the AI does it’s job. The GOP is the real do-nothing party.",
">\n\nHe wants them to put in writing all the deeply unpopular demands they are making so no one can deny it later on.",
">\n\n“Curses! Foiled Again!” - Kevin McCarthy",
">\n\nGod. McCarthy is so bad at this.",
">\n\nGood move. He knows how difficult it will be for them to produce one, and even if they are capable of spitting something out, it will likely be unpopular and it will have further stressed their internal divisions.",
">\n\nSummary:\nWe need to cut spending on welfare, infrastructure, and local projects in your area, and futher increase handouts to the 1% and corporations and fatten up the military to prepare for more immoral wars like the Iraq War we blatantly lied our way into. \n-Signed The GOP.",
">\n\nYou are dead on. Now it's all about how they shove this pill down their voter's throats without them getting upset.",
">\n\nIt's hilarious that you have to remind the Republicans to make sure they bring an agenda to the meeting for the things they want.",
">\n\nLooks like the Republicans may have caught another car.",
">\n\nYou mean with like numbers and stuff??? That's a tall order from this bunch of dropouts.",
">\n\n\nFor Debt Ceiling Negotiation\n\nExcuse me?",
">\n\nBut that involves actual work, instead of just shit-talking the Dems.",
">\n\nGuessing the Republicans will produce nothing or something that is completely ridiculous. Republicans remind me of the kid on the school group project who refuses to work with the group and then when the presentation is due they say \"Well that was a shit show, I could have done way better just by myself.\""
] |
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It'll be as detailed as Trump's healthcare plan | [
"It blows my mind Republicans have been campaigning on cutting Social Security, and Medicare and junk that Boomers are now preparing to get or are already getting, and Boomers still support them completely.",
">\n\nI always assumed any cuts would be geared at future benefits for people that are only just starting to pay in.\nAnd one might think, \"well why would people want to deny others of a benefit that they enjoy themselves\", but we already know the answer.",
">\n\nI know I'm in the minority as an elder millennial, I've been working for the past 25 years with no vacations and smart investments so I am more or less financially set.\nBut if social security is cut for my generation I will quit my job on the spot. I'm not going to pay in one more dime. Fuck these boomers who want to destroy the future to enrich themselves.",
">\n\nThat fact that you mentioned no vacations to be financially sound scares me. Don’t do that… there is zero guarantee you’ll make it to retirement age in shape to enjoy it. Enjoy life now",
">\n\nGenX here that followed the same strategy. My health is fucked. \nOn the bright side, I've probably saved enough for retirement because I'm going to die at my desk before I'm 60.",
">\n\nNot too late to change and start enjoying things now. Ive probably fucked myself over on retirement and that sucks but my body is failing hard and fast and I’m not even old age. I’m so glad I did a lot in my 20s and 30s because I am scared I’ll not make it to 50, let alone 60",
">\n\nNo friends and no interests. And most of my money is in long-term retirement. \nPlus, my medical bills would wipe me out if I quit my job.",
">\n\nAs someone else with no friends or interests I feel this\nExcept I have no investments.",
">\n\n“We’ve already begun work on a comprehensive budget, titled, ‘We hate Democrats Just Because.’ You’ll have it in two weeks.”",
">\n\n\"2 minutes, Turkish\"",
">\n\nIt was 2 minutes 5 minutes ago",
">\n\n\nA Republican budget proposal, the advisers said, should specify whether Republicans would pursue savings through cuts to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, health insurance subsidies, research or public safety spending.\n\nIn other words, you can’t just yell “stop the woke budget!” You have to point out exactly what money is allocated to those causes and then justify why.\nWe all know they won’t do this because they have nothing to point to. So they’ll decry “woke budget!” until the summer and then they will fuck over the country for cheap culture war points.",
">\n\nIt’s absolutely ridiculous. For the past decade at least, Republicans only goal has been to destroy faith in our institutions so they can point out how broken it is and how we need to vote them in to fix it. They are 100% willing to let the government default so they can point to it and say it’s all democrats fault. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. Their constituents religiously watch a single “news” source that tells them exactly what to believe.",
">\n\nWhile ironically calling everyone else around them sheep. Sighhh",
">\n\n“We will block the government from paying debts until you cut spending 😈 What do you think of that Sleepy Joe?”\n“What spending are you going to cut?”\n“Medicare and social securi- uh- I mean no, NO WE WON’T DO THAT! We’ll cut uh… uh… educa- no… uh… the military budg- ahhh our lobbyists need that… we’re gonna cut… something WOKE!”\n“Okay send me a budget.”\n“agggghhhh FUCK YOU JOE!! FUCK YOU!”\nLoving this new GOP that is both toothless and dumb.",
">\n\nThey’re dumb but they aren’t toothless. They can still crater the economy or force this into the (corrupt and right wing) courts and come out with a win.",
">\n\nThere is no world where the debt ceiling doesn’t get raised. It will be raised. The GOP just wants to embarass themselves a bit beforehand it seems",
">\n\nYou’re going to be wrong. They’re that stupid",
">\n\nIn order for the debt ceiling to not be raised, and the US to default on its loans, the Republicans will need almost all their congresspeople to remain opposed to raising it. Even as it causes a recession and blows up all their stock portfolios. \nThe debt ceiling will be raised. But it doesn’t need to be for 6 months. The treasury says it can take extraordinary measures to\nmove money around and pay off debts until June. So the Republicans might just keep refusing to raise the debt ceiling and make a show out of it for a few months.",
">\n\nThat would dominate the news cycles. Yawn.",
">\n\nIt will be produced right after their very beautiful health care plan.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for infrastructure week",
">\n\nInfrastructure week is done. By democrats of course.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"Set Obfuscate Shield to maximum deflection power!\"",
">\n\nLet’s be real, the Republican budget is a picture of Biden they drew a penis on with a Sharpie.",
">\n\nBut they drew it exaggeratedly large so they can see the joke. And now they unironically call him Big Dick Biden because they think he's acting like a huge dick.",
">\n\nTraceable accountability is garlic to the GOP vampire.",
">\n\nDems: \"Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"No!\"\nDems: \"Kevin, be serious here . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"I doan wanna!\nDems: \"C'mon now, Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"You can't make me!!! Just give me what my handlers want or I'm gonna turn on the space lasers!!!\"\n\"Pew! Pew! Pew!\" the Speaker added.",
">\n\nGOP: We want cut waste, fraud and abuse. \nPrez: okay, show us specifics on what you think should be cut.\nGOP: Waste, Fraud and Abuse!\nThey don’t want provide specific answers, because those will be unpopular. Biden asking for specifics, so he can hammer them on those specifics.",
">\n\nExactly and McCarthy is in an impossible position since he had to agree to a rules change in the House that would let a single member launch a challenge to his speakership. Hence his answer on Twitter which you nicely parroted. “Mr. President,” he wrote, “I received your staff’s memo. I’m not interested in political games. I’m coming to negotiate for the American people.”",
">\n\nGoing into a negotiation with a plan? Does uncle Joe even know republicans?",
">\n\nPresident Joe knows that there isn't a single Republican in Congress who can even fake a detailed budget thing in Word/PDF",
">\n\nThey're going to copy and paste last year's budget, and just reduce everything they don't like.",
">\n\nThen they need to say in detail everything they don't like and by how much they would like to reduce it.",
">\n\nHmm... a detailed budget you say?\n|Budget 2024|Amount|\n:--|:--|\n|Wokeness|$0|\n|Awesomeness|$ALL|\nWhy yes, I'd love a prestigious committee assignment. I'm thinking... chair of Ways and Means? Thanks, Kev!!",
">\n\nChatGOP. I’m calling it now.",
">\n\nIf we could actually just go ahead and replace the entire Republican Party with ChatGPT actually, that would be a step up. At least the AI does it’s job. The GOP is the real do-nothing party.",
">\n\nHe wants them to put in writing all the deeply unpopular demands they are making so no one can deny it later on.",
">\n\n“Curses! Foiled Again!” - Kevin McCarthy",
">\n\nGod. McCarthy is so bad at this.",
">\n\nGood move. He knows how difficult it will be for them to produce one, and even if they are capable of spitting something out, it will likely be unpopular and it will have further stressed their internal divisions.",
">\n\nSummary:\nWe need to cut spending on welfare, infrastructure, and local projects in your area, and futher increase handouts to the 1% and corporations and fatten up the military to prepare for more immoral wars like the Iraq War we blatantly lied our way into. \n-Signed The GOP.",
">\n\nYou are dead on. Now it's all about how they shove this pill down their voter's throats without them getting upset.",
">\n\nIt's hilarious that you have to remind the Republicans to make sure they bring an agenda to the meeting for the things they want.",
">\n\nLooks like the Republicans may have caught another car.",
">\n\nYou mean with like numbers and stuff??? That's a tall order from this bunch of dropouts.",
">\n\n\nFor Debt Ceiling Negotiation\n\nExcuse me?",
">\n\nBut that involves actual work, instead of just shit-talking the Dems.",
">\n\nGuessing the Republicans will produce nothing or something that is completely ridiculous. Republicans remind me of the kid on the school group project who refuses to work with the group and then when the presentation is due they say \"Well that was a shit show, I could have done way better just by myself.\"",
">\n\nHope the White House provided them with a coloring book and crayons."
] |
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Every step of the way has been glaring missteps on the part of republicans. | [
"It blows my mind Republicans have been campaigning on cutting Social Security, and Medicare and junk that Boomers are now preparing to get or are already getting, and Boomers still support them completely.",
">\n\nI always assumed any cuts would be geared at future benefits for people that are only just starting to pay in.\nAnd one might think, \"well why would people want to deny others of a benefit that they enjoy themselves\", but we already know the answer.",
">\n\nI know I'm in the minority as an elder millennial, I've been working for the past 25 years with no vacations and smart investments so I am more or less financially set.\nBut if social security is cut for my generation I will quit my job on the spot. I'm not going to pay in one more dime. Fuck these boomers who want to destroy the future to enrich themselves.",
">\n\nThat fact that you mentioned no vacations to be financially sound scares me. Don’t do that… there is zero guarantee you’ll make it to retirement age in shape to enjoy it. Enjoy life now",
">\n\nGenX here that followed the same strategy. My health is fucked. \nOn the bright side, I've probably saved enough for retirement because I'm going to die at my desk before I'm 60.",
">\n\nNot too late to change and start enjoying things now. Ive probably fucked myself over on retirement and that sucks but my body is failing hard and fast and I’m not even old age. I’m so glad I did a lot in my 20s and 30s because I am scared I’ll not make it to 50, let alone 60",
">\n\nNo friends and no interests. And most of my money is in long-term retirement. \nPlus, my medical bills would wipe me out if I quit my job.",
">\n\nAs someone else with no friends or interests I feel this\nExcept I have no investments.",
">\n\n“We’ve already begun work on a comprehensive budget, titled, ‘We hate Democrats Just Because.’ You’ll have it in two weeks.”",
">\n\n\"2 minutes, Turkish\"",
">\n\nIt was 2 minutes 5 minutes ago",
">\n\n\nA Republican budget proposal, the advisers said, should specify whether Republicans would pursue savings through cuts to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, health insurance subsidies, research or public safety spending.\n\nIn other words, you can’t just yell “stop the woke budget!” You have to point out exactly what money is allocated to those causes and then justify why.\nWe all know they won’t do this because they have nothing to point to. So they’ll decry “woke budget!” until the summer and then they will fuck over the country for cheap culture war points.",
">\n\nIt’s absolutely ridiculous. For the past decade at least, Republicans only goal has been to destroy faith in our institutions so they can point out how broken it is and how we need to vote them in to fix it. They are 100% willing to let the government default so they can point to it and say it’s all democrats fault. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. Their constituents religiously watch a single “news” source that tells them exactly what to believe.",
">\n\nWhile ironically calling everyone else around them sheep. Sighhh",
">\n\n“We will block the government from paying debts until you cut spending 😈 What do you think of that Sleepy Joe?”\n“What spending are you going to cut?”\n“Medicare and social securi- uh- I mean no, NO WE WON’T DO THAT! We’ll cut uh… uh… educa- no… uh… the military budg- ahhh our lobbyists need that… we’re gonna cut… something WOKE!”\n“Okay send me a budget.”\n“agggghhhh FUCK YOU JOE!! FUCK YOU!”\nLoving this new GOP that is both toothless and dumb.",
">\n\nThey’re dumb but they aren’t toothless. They can still crater the economy or force this into the (corrupt and right wing) courts and come out with a win.",
">\n\nThere is no world where the debt ceiling doesn’t get raised. It will be raised. The GOP just wants to embarass themselves a bit beforehand it seems",
">\n\nYou’re going to be wrong. They’re that stupid",
">\n\nIn order for the debt ceiling to not be raised, and the US to default on its loans, the Republicans will need almost all their congresspeople to remain opposed to raising it. Even as it causes a recession and blows up all their stock portfolios. \nThe debt ceiling will be raised. But it doesn’t need to be for 6 months. The treasury says it can take extraordinary measures to\nmove money around and pay off debts until June. So the Republicans might just keep refusing to raise the debt ceiling and make a show out of it for a few months.",
">\n\nThat would dominate the news cycles. Yawn.",
">\n\nIt will be produced right after their very beautiful health care plan.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for infrastructure week",
">\n\nInfrastructure week is done. By democrats of course.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"Set Obfuscate Shield to maximum deflection power!\"",
">\n\nLet’s be real, the Republican budget is a picture of Biden they drew a penis on with a Sharpie.",
">\n\nBut they drew it exaggeratedly large so they can see the joke. And now they unironically call him Big Dick Biden because they think he's acting like a huge dick.",
">\n\nTraceable accountability is garlic to the GOP vampire.",
">\n\nDems: \"Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"No!\"\nDems: \"Kevin, be serious here . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"I doan wanna!\nDems: \"C'mon now, Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"You can't make me!!! Just give me what my handlers want or I'm gonna turn on the space lasers!!!\"\n\"Pew! Pew! Pew!\" the Speaker added.",
">\n\nGOP: We want cut waste, fraud and abuse. \nPrez: okay, show us specifics on what you think should be cut.\nGOP: Waste, Fraud and Abuse!\nThey don’t want provide specific answers, because those will be unpopular. Biden asking for specifics, so he can hammer them on those specifics.",
">\n\nExactly and McCarthy is in an impossible position since he had to agree to a rules change in the House that would let a single member launch a challenge to his speakership. Hence his answer on Twitter which you nicely parroted. “Mr. President,” he wrote, “I received your staff’s memo. I’m not interested in political games. I’m coming to negotiate for the American people.”",
">\n\nGoing into a negotiation with a plan? Does uncle Joe even know republicans?",
">\n\nPresident Joe knows that there isn't a single Republican in Congress who can even fake a detailed budget thing in Word/PDF",
">\n\nThey're going to copy and paste last year's budget, and just reduce everything they don't like.",
">\n\nThen they need to say in detail everything they don't like and by how much they would like to reduce it.",
">\n\nHmm... a detailed budget you say?\n|Budget 2024|Amount|\n:--|:--|\n|Wokeness|$0|\n|Awesomeness|$ALL|\nWhy yes, I'd love a prestigious committee assignment. I'm thinking... chair of Ways and Means? Thanks, Kev!!",
">\n\nChatGOP. I’m calling it now.",
">\n\nIf we could actually just go ahead and replace the entire Republican Party with ChatGPT actually, that would be a step up. At least the AI does it’s job. The GOP is the real do-nothing party.",
">\n\nHe wants them to put in writing all the deeply unpopular demands they are making so no one can deny it later on.",
">\n\n“Curses! Foiled Again!” - Kevin McCarthy",
">\n\nGod. McCarthy is so bad at this.",
">\n\nGood move. He knows how difficult it will be for them to produce one, and even if they are capable of spitting something out, it will likely be unpopular and it will have further stressed their internal divisions.",
">\n\nSummary:\nWe need to cut spending on welfare, infrastructure, and local projects in your area, and futher increase handouts to the 1% and corporations and fatten up the military to prepare for more immoral wars like the Iraq War we blatantly lied our way into. \n-Signed The GOP.",
">\n\nYou are dead on. Now it's all about how they shove this pill down their voter's throats without them getting upset.",
">\n\nIt's hilarious that you have to remind the Republicans to make sure they bring an agenda to the meeting for the things they want.",
">\n\nLooks like the Republicans may have caught another car.",
">\n\nYou mean with like numbers and stuff??? That's a tall order from this bunch of dropouts.",
">\n\n\nFor Debt Ceiling Negotiation\n\nExcuse me?",
">\n\nBut that involves actual work, instead of just shit-talking the Dems.",
">\n\nGuessing the Republicans will produce nothing or something that is completely ridiculous. Republicans remind me of the kid on the school group project who refuses to work with the group and then when the presentation is due they say \"Well that was a shit show, I could have done way better just by myself.\"",
">\n\nHope the White House provided them with a coloring book and crayons.",
">\n\nIt'll be as detailed as Trump's healthcare plan"
] |
>
Lol, no that actual would require them to do something, and they only love doing nothing or taking people rights…… if it doesn’t involve those two, forget it. | [
"It blows my mind Republicans have been campaigning on cutting Social Security, and Medicare and junk that Boomers are now preparing to get or are already getting, and Boomers still support them completely.",
">\n\nI always assumed any cuts would be geared at future benefits for people that are only just starting to pay in.\nAnd one might think, \"well why would people want to deny others of a benefit that they enjoy themselves\", but we already know the answer.",
">\n\nI know I'm in the minority as an elder millennial, I've been working for the past 25 years with no vacations and smart investments so I am more or less financially set.\nBut if social security is cut for my generation I will quit my job on the spot. I'm not going to pay in one more dime. Fuck these boomers who want to destroy the future to enrich themselves.",
">\n\nThat fact that you mentioned no vacations to be financially sound scares me. Don’t do that… there is zero guarantee you’ll make it to retirement age in shape to enjoy it. Enjoy life now",
">\n\nGenX here that followed the same strategy. My health is fucked. \nOn the bright side, I've probably saved enough for retirement because I'm going to die at my desk before I'm 60.",
">\n\nNot too late to change and start enjoying things now. Ive probably fucked myself over on retirement and that sucks but my body is failing hard and fast and I’m not even old age. I’m so glad I did a lot in my 20s and 30s because I am scared I’ll not make it to 50, let alone 60",
">\n\nNo friends and no interests. And most of my money is in long-term retirement. \nPlus, my medical bills would wipe me out if I quit my job.",
">\n\nAs someone else with no friends or interests I feel this\nExcept I have no investments.",
">\n\n“We’ve already begun work on a comprehensive budget, titled, ‘We hate Democrats Just Because.’ You’ll have it in two weeks.”",
">\n\n\"2 minutes, Turkish\"",
">\n\nIt was 2 minutes 5 minutes ago",
">\n\n\nA Republican budget proposal, the advisers said, should specify whether Republicans would pursue savings through cuts to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, health insurance subsidies, research or public safety spending.\n\nIn other words, you can’t just yell “stop the woke budget!” You have to point out exactly what money is allocated to those causes and then justify why.\nWe all know they won’t do this because they have nothing to point to. So they’ll decry “woke budget!” until the summer and then they will fuck over the country for cheap culture war points.",
">\n\nIt’s absolutely ridiculous. For the past decade at least, Republicans only goal has been to destroy faith in our institutions so they can point out how broken it is and how we need to vote them in to fix it. They are 100% willing to let the government default so they can point to it and say it’s all democrats fault. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. Their constituents religiously watch a single “news” source that tells them exactly what to believe.",
">\n\nWhile ironically calling everyone else around them sheep. Sighhh",
">\n\n“We will block the government from paying debts until you cut spending 😈 What do you think of that Sleepy Joe?”\n“What spending are you going to cut?”\n“Medicare and social securi- uh- I mean no, NO WE WON’T DO THAT! We’ll cut uh… uh… educa- no… uh… the military budg- ahhh our lobbyists need that… we’re gonna cut… something WOKE!”\n“Okay send me a budget.”\n“agggghhhh FUCK YOU JOE!! FUCK YOU!”\nLoving this new GOP that is both toothless and dumb.",
">\n\nThey’re dumb but they aren’t toothless. They can still crater the economy or force this into the (corrupt and right wing) courts and come out with a win.",
">\n\nThere is no world where the debt ceiling doesn’t get raised. It will be raised. The GOP just wants to embarass themselves a bit beforehand it seems",
">\n\nYou’re going to be wrong. They’re that stupid",
">\n\nIn order for the debt ceiling to not be raised, and the US to default on its loans, the Republicans will need almost all their congresspeople to remain opposed to raising it. Even as it causes a recession and blows up all their stock portfolios. \nThe debt ceiling will be raised. But it doesn’t need to be for 6 months. The treasury says it can take extraordinary measures to\nmove money around and pay off debts until June. So the Republicans might just keep refusing to raise the debt ceiling and make a show out of it for a few months.",
">\n\nThat would dominate the news cycles. Yawn.",
">\n\nIt will be produced right after their very beautiful health care plan.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for infrastructure week",
">\n\nInfrastructure week is done. By democrats of course.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"Set Obfuscate Shield to maximum deflection power!\"",
">\n\nLet’s be real, the Republican budget is a picture of Biden they drew a penis on with a Sharpie.",
">\n\nBut they drew it exaggeratedly large so they can see the joke. And now they unironically call him Big Dick Biden because they think he's acting like a huge dick.",
">\n\nTraceable accountability is garlic to the GOP vampire.",
">\n\nDems: \"Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"No!\"\nDems: \"Kevin, be serious here . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"I doan wanna!\nDems: \"C'mon now, Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"You can't make me!!! Just give me what my handlers want or I'm gonna turn on the space lasers!!!\"\n\"Pew! Pew! Pew!\" the Speaker added.",
">\n\nGOP: We want cut waste, fraud and abuse. \nPrez: okay, show us specifics on what you think should be cut.\nGOP: Waste, Fraud and Abuse!\nThey don’t want provide specific answers, because those will be unpopular. Biden asking for specifics, so he can hammer them on those specifics.",
">\n\nExactly and McCarthy is in an impossible position since he had to agree to a rules change in the House that would let a single member launch a challenge to his speakership. Hence his answer on Twitter which you nicely parroted. “Mr. President,” he wrote, “I received your staff’s memo. I’m not interested in political games. I’m coming to negotiate for the American people.”",
">\n\nGoing into a negotiation with a plan? Does uncle Joe even know republicans?",
">\n\nPresident Joe knows that there isn't a single Republican in Congress who can even fake a detailed budget thing in Word/PDF",
">\n\nThey're going to copy and paste last year's budget, and just reduce everything they don't like.",
">\n\nThen they need to say in detail everything they don't like and by how much they would like to reduce it.",
">\n\nHmm... a detailed budget you say?\n|Budget 2024|Amount|\n:--|:--|\n|Wokeness|$0|\n|Awesomeness|$ALL|\nWhy yes, I'd love a prestigious committee assignment. I'm thinking... chair of Ways and Means? Thanks, Kev!!",
">\n\nChatGOP. I’m calling it now.",
">\n\nIf we could actually just go ahead and replace the entire Republican Party with ChatGPT actually, that would be a step up. At least the AI does it’s job. The GOP is the real do-nothing party.",
">\n\nHe wants them to put in writing all the deeply unpopular demands they are making so no one can deny it later on.",
">\n\n“Curses! Foiled Again!” - Kevin McCarthy",
">\n\nGod. McCarthy is so bad at this.",
">\n\nGood move. He knows how difficult it will be for them to produce one, and even if they are capable of spitting something out, it will likely be unpopular and it will have further stressed their internal divisions.",
">\n\nSummary:\nWe need to cut spending on welfare, infrastructure, and local projects in your area, and futher increase handouts to the 1% and corporations and fatten up the military to prepare for more immoral wars like the Iraq War we blatantly lied our way into. \n-Signed The GOP.",
">\n\nYou are dead on. Now it's all about how they shove this pill down their voter's throats without them getting upset.",
">\n\nIt's hilarious that you have to remind the Republicans to make sure they bring an agenda to the meeting for the things they want.",
">\n\nLooks like the Republicans may have caught another car.",
">\n\nYou mean with like numbers and stuff??? That's a tall order from this bunch of dropouts.",
">\n\n\nFor Debt Ceiling Negotiation\n\nExcuse me?",
">\n\nBut that involves actual work, instead of just shit-talking the Dems.",
">\n\nGuessing the Republicans will produce nothing or something that is completely ridiculous. Republicans remind me of the kid on the school group project who refuses to work with the group and then when the presentation is due they say \"Well that was a shit show, I could have done way better just by myself.\"",
">\n\nHope the White House provided them with a coloring book and crayons.",
">\n\nIt'll be as detailed as Trump's healthcare plan",
">\n\nEvery step of the way has been glaring missteps on the part of republicans."
] |
>
What's stopping the Republicans from just giving a deliberately BS budget? They're just going to lie to Biden lmao | [
"It blows my mind Republicans have been campaigning on cutting Social Security, and Medicare and junk that Boomers are now preparing to get or are already getting, and Boomers still support them completely.",
">\n\nI always assumed any cuts would be geared at future benefits for people that are only just starting to pay in.\nAnd one might think, \"well why would people want to deny others of a benefit that they enjoy themselves\", but we already know the answer.",
">\n\nI know I'm in the minority as an elder millennial, I've been working for the past 25 years with no vacations and smart investments so I am more or less financially set.\nBut if social security is cut for my generation I will quit my job on the spot. I'm not going to pay in one more dime. Fuck these boomers who want to destroy the future to enrich themselves.",
">\n\nThat fact that you mentioned no vacations to be financially sound scares me. Don’t do that… there is zero guarantee you’ll make it to retirement age in shape to enjoy it. Enjoy life now",
">\n\nGenX here that followed the same strategy. My health is fucked. \nOn the bright side, I've probably saved enough for retirement because I'm going to die at my desk before I'm 60.",
">\n\nNot too late to change and start enjoying things now. Ive probably fucked myself over on retirement and that sucks but my body is failing hard and fast and I’m not even old age. I’m so glad I did a lot in my 20s and 30s because I am scared I’ll not make it to 50, let alone 60",
">\n\nNo friends and no interests. And most of my money is in long-term retirement. \nPlus, my medical bills would wipe me out if I quit my job.",
">\n\nAs someone else with no friends or interests I feel this\nExcept I have no investments.",
">\n\n“We’ve already begun work on a comprehensive budget, titled, ‘We hate Democrats Just Because.’ You’ll have it in two weeks.”",
">\n\n\"2 minutes, Turkish\"",
">\n\nIt was 2 minutes 5 minutes ago",
">\n\n\nA Republican budget proposal, the advisers said, should specify whether Republicans would pursue savings through cuts to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, health insurance subsidies, research or public safety spending.\n\nIn other words, you can’t just yell “stop the woke budget!” You have to point out exactly what money is allocated to those causes and then justify why.\nWe all know they won’t do this because they have nothing to point to. So they’ll decry “woke budget!” until the summer and then they will fuck over the country for cheap culture war points.",
">\n\nIt’s absolutely ridiculous. For the past decade at least, Republicans only goal has been to destroy faith in our institutions so they can point out how broken it is and how we need to vote them in to fix it. They are 100% willing to let the government default so they can point to it and say it’s all democrats fault. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. Their constituents religiously watch a single “news” source that tells them exactly what to believe.",
">\n\nWhile ironically calling everyone else around them sheep. Sighhh",
">\n\n“We will block the government from paying debts until you cut spending 😈 What do you think of that Sleepy Joe?”\n“What spending are you going to cut?”\n“Medicare and social securi- uh- I mean no, NO WE WON’T DO THAT! We’ll cut uh… uh… educa- no… uh… the military budg- ahhh our lobbyists need that… we’re gonna cut… something WOKE!”\n“Okay send me a budget.”\n“agggghhhh FUCK YOU JOE!! FUCK YOU!”\nLoving this new GOP that is both toothless and dumb.",
">\n\nThey’re dumb but they aren’t toothless. They can still crater the economy or force this into the (corrupt and right wing) courts and come out with a win.",
">\n\nThere is no world where the debt ceiling doesn’t get raised. It will be raised. The GOP just wants to embarass themselves a bit beforehand it seems",
">\n\nYou’re going to be wrong. They’re that stupid",
">\n\nIn order for the debt ceiling to not be raised, and the US to default on its loans, the Republicans will need almost all their congresspeople to remain opposed to raising it. Even as it causes a recession and blows up all their stock portfolios. \nThe debt ceiling will be raised. But it doesn’t need to be for 6 months. The treasury says it can take extraordinary measures to\nmove money around and pay off debts until June. So the Republicans might just keep refusing to raise the debt ceiling and make a show out of it for a few months.",
">\n\nThat would dominate the news cycles. Yawn.",
">\n\nIt will be produced right after their very beautiful health care plan.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for infrastructure week",
">\n\nInfrastructure week is done. By democrats of course.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"Set Obfuscate Shield to maximum deflection power!\"",
">\n\nLet’s be real, the Republican budget is a picture of Biden they drew a penis on with a Sharpie.",
">\n\nBut they drew it exaggeratedly large so they can see the joke. And now they unironically call him Big Dick Biden because they think he's acting like a huge dick.",
">\n\nTraceable accountability is garlic to the GOP vampire.",
">\n\nDems: \"Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"No!\"\nDems: \"Kevin, be serious here . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"I doan wanna!\nDems: \"C'mon now, Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"You can't make me!!! Just give me what my handlers want or I'm gonna turn on the space lasers!!!\"\n\"Pew! Pew! Pew!\" the Speaker added.",
">\n\nGOP: We want cut waste, fraud and abuse. \nPrez: okay, show us specifics on what you think should be cut.\nGOP: Waste, Fraud and Abuse!\nThey don’t want provide specific answers, because those will be unpopular. Biden asking for specifics, so he can hammer them on those specifics.",
">\n\nExactly and McCarthy is in an impossible position since he had to agree to a rules change in the House that would let a single member launch a challenge to his speakership. Hence his answer on Twitter which you nicely parroted. “Mr. President,” he wrote, “I received your staff’s memo. I’m not interested in political games. I’m coming to negotiate for the American people.”",
">\n\nGoing into a negotiation with a plan? Does uncle Joe even know republicans?",
">\n\nPresident Joe knows that there isn't a single Republican in Congress who can even fake a detailed budget thing in Word/PDF",
">\n\nThey're going to copy and paste last year's budget, and just reduce everything they don't like.",
">\n\nThen they need to say in detail everything they don't like and by how much they would like to reduce it.",
">\n\nHmm... a detailed budget you say?\n|Budget 2024|Amount|\n:--|:--|\n|Wokeness|$0|\n|Awesomeness|$ALL|\nWhy yes, I'd love a prestigious committee assignment. I'm thinking... chair of Ways and Means? Thanks, Kev!!",
">\n\nChatGOP. I’m calling it now.",
">\n\nIf we could actually just go ahead and replace the entire Republican Party with ChatGPT actually, that would be a step up. At least the AI does it’s job. The GOP is the real do-nothing party.",
">\n\nHe wants them to put in writing all the deeply unpopular demands they are making so no one can deny it later on.",
">\n\n“Curses! Foiled Again!” - Kevin McCarthy",
">\n\nGod. McCarthy is so bad at this.",
">\n\nGood move. He knows how difficult it will be for them to produce one, and even if they are capable of spitting something out, it will likely be unpopular and it will have further stressed their internal divisions.",
">\n\nSummary:\nWe need to cut spending on welfare, infrastructure, and local projects in your area, and futher increase handouts to the 1% and corporations and fatten up the military to prepare for more immoral wars like the Iraq War we blatantly lied our way into. \n-Signed The GOP.",
">\n\nYou are dead on. Now it's all about how they shove this pill down their voter's throats without them getting upset.",
">\n\nIt's hilarious that you have to remind the Republicans to make sure they bring an agenda to the meeting for the things they want.",
">\n\nLooks like the Republicans may have caught another car.",
">\n\nYou mean with like numbers and stuff??? That's a tall order from this bunch of dropouts.",
">\n\n\nFor Debt Ceiling Negotiation\n\nExcuse me?",
">\n\nBut that involves actual work, instead of just shit-talking the Dems.",
">\n\nGuessing the Republicans will produce nothing or something that is completely ridiculous. Republicans remind me of the kid on the school group project who refuses to work with the group and then when the presentation is due they say \"Well that was a shit show, I could have done way better just by myself.\"",
">\n\nHope the White House provided them with a coloring book and crayons.",
">\n\nIt'll be as detailed as Trump's healthcare plan",
">\n\nEvery step of the way has been glaring missteps on the part of republicans.",
">\n\nLol, no that actual would require them to do something, and they only love doing nothing or taking people rights…… if it doesn’t involve those two, forget it."
] |
>
What's stopping them is public attention. They can lie if they want, but the current administration is telling Republicans that whatever they say will be in public discussion. | [
"It blows my mind Republicans have been campaigning on cutting Social Security, and Medicare and junk that Boomers are now preparing to get or are already getting, and Boomers still support them completely.",
">\n\nI always assumed any cuts would be geared at future benefits for people that are only just starting to pay in.\nAnd one might think, \"well why would people want to deny others of a benefit that they enjoy themselves\", but we already know the answer.",
">\n\nI know I'm in the minority as an elder millennial, I've been working for the past 25 years with no vacations and smart investments so I am more or less financially set.\nBut if social security is cut for my generation I will quit my job on the spot. I'm not going to pay in one more dime. Fuck these boomers who want to destroy the future to enrich themselves.",
">\n\nThat fact that you mentioned no vacations to be financially sound scares me. Don’t do that… there is zero guarantee you’ll make it to retirement age in shape to enjoy it. Enjoy life now",
">\n\nGenX here that followed the same strategy. My health is fucked. \nOn the bright side, I've probably saved enough for retirement because I'm going to die at my desk before I'm 60.",
">\n\nNot too late to change and start enjoying things now. Ive probably fucked myself over on retirement and that sucks but my body is failing hard and fast and I’m not even old age. I’m so glad I did a lot in my 20s and 30s because I am scared I’ll not make it to 50, let alone 60",
">\n\nNo friends and no interests. And most of my money is in long-term retirement. \nPlus, my medical bills would wipe me out if I quit my job.",
">\n\nAs someone else with no friends or interests I feel this\nExcept I have no investments.",
">\n\n“We’ve already begun work on a comprehensive budget, titled, ‘We hate Democrats Just Because.’ You’ll have it in two weeks.”",
">\n\n\"2 minutes, Turkish\"",
">\n\nIt was 2 minutes 5 minutes ago",
">\n\n\nA Republican budget proposal, the advisers said, should specify whether Republicans would pursue savings through cuts to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, health insurance subsidies, research or public safety spending.\n\nIn other words, you can’t just yell “stop the woke budget!” You have to point out exactly what money is allocated to those causes and then justify why.\nWe all know they won’t do this because they have nothing to point to. So they’ll decry “woke budget!” until the summer and then they will fuck over the country for cheap culture war points.",
">\n\nIt’s absolutely ridiculous. For the past decade at least, Republicans only goal has been to destroy faith in our institutions so they can point out how broken it is and how we need to vote them in to fix it. They are 100% willing to let the government default so they can point to it and say it’s all democrats fault. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. Their constituents religiously watch a single “news” source that tells them exactly what to believe.",
">\n\nWhile ironically calling everyone else around them sheep. Sighhh",
">\n\n“We will block the government from paying debts until you cut spending 😈 What do you think of that Sleepy Joe?”\n“What spending are you going to cut?”\n“Medicare and social securi- uh- I mean no, NO WE WON’T DO THAT! We’ll cut uh… uh… educa- no… uh… the military budg- ahhh our lobbyists need that… we’re gonna cut… something WOKE!”\n“Okay send me a budget.”\n“agggghhhh FUCK YOU JOE!! FUCK YOU!”\nLoving this new GOP that is both toothless and dumb.",
">\n\nThey’re dumb but they aren’t toothless. They can still crater the economy or force this into the (corrupt and right wing) courts and come out with a win.",
">\n\nThere is no world where the debt ceiling doesn’t get raised. It will be raised. The GOP just wants to embarass themselves a bit beforehand it seems",
">\n\nYou’re going to be wrong. They’re that stupid",
">\n\nIn order for the debt ceiling to not be raised, and the US to default on its loans, the Republicans will need almost all their congresspeople to remain opposed to raising it. Even as it causes a recession and blows up all their stock portfolios. \nThe debt ceiling will be raised. But it doesn’t need to be for 6 months. The treasury says it can take extraordinary measures to\nmove money around and pay off debts until June. So the Republicans might just keep refusing to raise the debt ceiling and make a show out of it for a few months.",
">\n\nThat would dominate the news cycles. Yawn.",
">\n\nIt will be produced right after their very beautiful health care plan.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for infrastructure week",
">\n\nInfrastructure week is done. By democrats of course.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"Set Obfuscate Shield to maximum deflection power!\"",
">\n\nLet’s be real, the Republican budget is a picture of Biden they drew a penis on with a Sharpie.",
">\n\nBut they drew it exaggeratedly large so they can see the joke. And now they unironically call him Big Dick Biden because they think he's acting like a huge dick.",
">\n\nTraceable accountability is garlic to the GOP vampire.",
">\n\nDems: \"Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"No!\"\nDems: \"Kevin, be serious here . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"I doan wanna!\nDems: \"C'mon now, Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"You can't make me!!! Just give me what my handlers want or I'm gonna turn on the space lasers!!!\"\n\"Pew! Pew! Pew!\" the Speaker added.",
">\n\nGOP: We want cut waste, fraud and abuse. \nPrez: okay, show us specifics on what you think should be cut.\nGOP: Waste, Fraud and Abuse!\nThey don’t want provide specific answers, because those will be unpopular. Biden asking for specifics, so he can hammer them on those specifics.",
">\n\nExactly and McCarthy is in an impossible position since he had to agree to a rules change in the House that would let a single member launch a challenge to his speakership. Hence his answer on Twitter which you nicely parroted. “Mr. President,” he wrote, “I received your staff’s memo. I’m not interested in political games. I’m coming to negotiate for the American people.”",
">\n\nGoing into a negotiation with a plan? Does uncle Joe even know republicans?",
">\n\nPresident Joe knows that there isn't a single Republican in Congress who can even fake a detailed budget thing in Word/PDF",
">\n\nThey're going to copy and paste last year's budget, and just reduce everything they don't like.",
">\n\nThen they need to say in detail everything they don't like and by how much they would like to reduce it.",
">\n\nHmm... a detailed budget you say?\n|Budget 2024|Amount|\n:--|:--|\n|Wokeness|$0|\n|Awesomeness|$ALL|\nWhy yes, I'd love a prestigious committee assignment. I'm thinking... chair of Ways and Means? Thanks, Kev!!",
">\n\nChatGOP. I’m calling it now.",
">\n\nIf we could actually just go ahead and replace the entire Republican Party with ChatGPT actually, that would be a step up. At least the AI does it’s job. The GOP is the real do-nothing party.",
">\n\nHe wants them to put in writing all the deeply unpopular demands they are making so no one can deny it later on.",
">\n\n“Curses! Foiled Again!” - Kevin McCarthy",
">\n\nGod. McCarthy is so bad at this.",
">\n\nGood move. He knows how difficult it will be for them to produce one, and even if they are capable of spitting something out, it will likely be unpopular and it will have further stressed their internal divisions.",
">\n\nSummary:\nWe need to cut spending on welfare, infrastructure, and local projects in your area, and futher increase handouts to the 1% and corporations and fatten up the military to prepare for more immoral wars like the Iraq War we blatantly lied our way into. \n-Signed The GOP.",
">\n\nYou are dead on. Now it's all about how they shove this pill down their voter's throats without them getting upset.",
">\n\nIt's hilarious that you have to remind the Republicans to make sure they bring an agenda to the meeting for the things they want.",
">\n\nLooks like the Republicans may have caught another car.",
">\n\nYou mean with like numbers and stuff??? That's a tall order from this bunch of dropouts.",
">\n\n\nFor Debt Ceiling Negotiation\n\nExcuse me?",
">\n\nBut that involves actual work, instead of just shit-talking the Dems.",
">\n\nGuessing the Republicans will produce nothing or something that is completely ridiculous. Republicans remind me of the kid on the school group project who refuses to work with the group and then when the presentation is due they say \"Well that was a shit show, I could have done way better just by myself.\"",
">\n\nHope the White House provided them with a coloring book and crayons.",
">\n\nIt'll be as detailed as Trump's healthcare plan",
">\n\nEvery step of the way has been glaring missteps on the part of republicans.",
">\n\nLol, no that actual would require them to do something, and they only love doing nothing or taking people rights…… if it doesn’t involve those two, forget it.",
">\n\nWhat's stopping the Republicans from just giving a deliberately BS budget? They're just going to lie to Biden lmao"
] |
>
When has that actually worked?
I really, really really hate the mindset on this subreddit that you can shame the GOP into behaving themselves.
The Republicans OPENLY VIOLATE FEDERAL LAW ON A REGULAR BASIS WITH NO CONSEQUENCES. Who is holding them accountable? I'm getting sick and tired of this. | [
"It blows my mind Republicans have been campaigning on cutting Social Security, and Medicare and junk that Boomers are now preparing to get or are already getting, and Boomers still support them completely.",
">\n\nI always assumed any cuts would be geared at future benefits for people that are only just starting to pay in.\nAnd one might think, \"well why would people want to deny others of a benefit that they enjoy themselves\", but we already know the answer.",
">\n\nI know I'm in the minority as an elder millennial, I've been working for the past 25 years with no vacations and smart investments so I am more or less financially set.\nBut if social security is cut for my generation I will quit my job on the spot. I'm not going to pay in one more dime. Fuck these boomers who want to destroy the future to enrich themselves.",
">\n\nThat fact that you mentioned no vacations to be financially sound scares me. Don’t do that… there is zero guarantee you’ll make it to retirement age in shape to enjoy it. Enjoy life now",
">\n\nGenX here that followed the same strategy. My health is fucked. \nOn the bright side, I've probably saved enough for retirement because I'm going to die at my desk before I'm 60.",
">\n\nNot too late to change and start enjoying things now. Ive probably fucked myself over on retirement and that sucks but my body is failing hard and fast and I’m not even old age. I’m so glad I did a lot in my 20s and 30s because I am scared I’ll not make it to 50, let alone 60",
">\n\nNo friends and no interests. And most of my money is in long-term retirement. \nPlus, my medical bills would wipe me out if I quit my job.",
">\n\nAs someone else with no friends or interests I feel this\nExcept I have no investments.",
">\n\n“We’ve already begun work on a comprehensive budget, titled, ‘We hate Democrats Just Because.’ You’ll have it in two weeks.”",
">\n\n\"2 minutes, Turkish\"",
">\n\nIt was 2 minutes 5 minutes ago",
">\n\n\nA Republican budget proposal, the advisers said, should specify whether Republicans would pursue savings through cuts to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, health insurance subsidies, research or public safety spending.\n\nIn other words, you can’t just yell “stop the woke budget!” You have to point out exactly what money is allocated to those causes and then justify why.\nWe all know they won’t do this because they have nothing to point to. So they’ll decry “woke budget!” until the summer and then they will fuck over the country for cheap culture war points.",
">\n\nIt’s absolutely ridiculous. For the past decade at least, Republicans only goal has been to destroy faith in our institutions so they can point out how broken it is and how we need to vote them in to fix it. They are 100% willing to let the government default so they can point to it and say it’s all democrats fault. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. Their constituents religiously watch a single “news” source that tells them exactly what to believe.",
">\n\nWhile ironically calling everyone else around them sheep. Sighhh",
">\n\n“We will block the government from paying debts until you cut spending 😈 What do you think of that Sleepy Joe?”\n“What spending are you going to cut?”\n“Medicare and social securi- uh- I mean no, NO WE WON’T DO THAT! We’ll cut uh… uh… educa- no… uh… the military budg- ahhh our lobbyists need that… we’re gonna cut… something WOKE!”\n“Okay send me a budget.”\n“agggghhhh FUCK YOU JOE!! FUCK YOU!”\nLoving this new GOP that is both toothless and dumb.",
">\n\nThey’re dumb but they aren’t toothless. They can still crater the economy or force this into the (corrupt and right wing) courts and come out with a win.",
">\n\nThere is no world where the debt ceiling doesn’t get raised. It will be raised. The GOP just wants to embarass themselves a bit beforehand it seems",
">\n\nYou’re going to be wrong. They’re that stupid",
">\n\nIn order for the debt ceiling to not be raised, and the US to default on its loans, the Republicans will need almost all their congresspeople to remain opposed to raising it. Even as it causes a recession and blows up all their stock portfolios. \nThe debt ceiling will be raised. But it doesn’t need to be for 6 months. The treasury says it can take extraordinary measures to\nmove money around and pay off debts until June. So the Republicans might just keep refusing to raise the debt ceiling and make a show out of it for a few months.",
">\n\nThat would dominate the news cycles. Yawn.",
">\n\nIt will be produced right after their very beautiful health care plan.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for infrastructure week",
">\n\nInfrastructure week is done. By democrats of course.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"Set Obfuscate Shield to maximum deflection power!\"",
">\n\nLet’s be real, the Republican budget is a picture of Biden they drew a penis on with a Sharpie.",
">\n\nBut they drew it exaggeratedly large so they can see the joke. And now they unironically call him Big Dick Biden because they think he's acting like a huge dick.",
">\n\nTraceable accountability is garlic to the GOP vampire.",
">\n\nDems: \"Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"No!\"\nDems: \"Kevin, be serious here . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"I doan wanna!\nDems: \"C'mon now, Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"You can't make me!!! Just give me what my handlers want or I'm gonna turn on the space lasers!!!\"\n\"Pew! Pew! Pew!\" the Speaker added.",
">\n\nGOP: We want cut waste, fraud and abuse. \nPrez: okay, show us specifics on what you think should be cut.\nGOP: Waste, Fraud and Abuse!\nThey don’t want provide specific answers, because those will be unpopular. Biden asking for specifics, so he can hammer them on those specifics.",
">\n\nExactly and McCarthy is in an impossible position since he had to agree to a rules change in the House that would let a single member launch a challenge to his speakership. Hence his answer on Twitter which you nicely parroted. “Mr. President,” he wrote, “I received your staff’s memo. I’m not interested in political games. I’m coming to negotiate for the American people.”",
">\n\nGoing into a negotiation with a plan? Does uncle Joe even know republicans?",
">\n\nPresident Joe knows that there isn't a single Republican in Congress who can even fake a detailed budget thing in Word/PDF",
">\n\nThey're going to copy and paste last year's budget, and just reduce everything they don't like.",
">\n\nThen they need to say in detail everything they don't like and by how much they would like to reduce it.",
">\n\nHmm... a detailed budget you say?\n|Budget 2024|Amount|\n:--|:--|\n|Wokeness|$0|\n|Awesomeness|$ALL|\nWhy yes, I'd love a prestigious committee assignment. I'm thinking... chair of Ways and Means? Thanks, Kev!!",
">\n\nChatGOP. I’m calling it now.",
">\n\nIf we could actually just go ahead and replace the entire Republican Party with ChatGPT actually, that would be a step up. At least the AI does it’s job. The GOP is the real do-nothing party.",
">\n\nHe wants them to put in writing all the deeply unpopular demands they are making so no one can deny it later on.",
">\n\n“Curses! Foiled Again!” - Kevin McCarthy",
">\n\nGod. McCarthy is so bad at this.",
">\n\nGood move. He knows how difficult it will be for them to produce one, and even if they are capable of spitting something out, it will likely be unpopular and it will have further stressed their internal divisions.",
">\n\nSummary:\nWe need to cut spending on welfare, infrastructure, and local projects in your area, and futher increase handouts to the 1% and corporations and fatten up the military to prepare for more immoral wars like the Iraq War we blatantly lied our way into. \n-Signed The GOP.",
">\n\nYou are dead on. Now it's all about how they shove this pill down their voter's throats without them getting upset.",
">\n\nIt's hilarious that you have to remind the Republicans to make sure they bring an agenda to the meeting for the things they want.",
">\n\nLooks like the Republicans may have caught another car.",
">\n\nYou mean with like numbers and stuff??? That's a tall order from this bunch of dropouts.",
">\n\n\nFor Debt Ceiling Negotiation\n\nExcuse me?",
">\n\nBut that involves actual work, instead of just shit-talking the Dems.",
">\n\nGuessing the Republicans will produce nothing or something that is completely ridiculous. Republicans remind me of the kid on the school group project who refuses to work with the group and then when the presentation is due they say \"Well that was a shit show, I could have done way better just by myself.\"",
">\n\nHope the White House provided them with a coloring book and crayons.",
">\n\nIt'll be as detailed as Trump's healthcare plan",
">\n\nEvery step of the way has been glaring missteps on the part of republicans.",
">\n\nLol, no that actual would require them to do something, and they only love doing nothing or taking people rights…… if it doesn’t involve those two, forget it.",
">\n\nWhat's stopping the Republicans from just giving a deliberately BS budget? They're just going to lie to Biden lmao",
">\n\nWhat's stopping them is public attention. They can lie if they want, but the current administration is telling Republicans that whatever they say will be in public discussion."
] |
>
When has that actually worked?
It's never done. How often do you hear the actual conversations they have, and the plans they make?
mindset on this subreddit that you can shame the GOP into behaving themselves.
I'm not the subreddit, and I don't believe that at all. I treat them as they are, the end. I don't have to shame them, just like I don't have to accept their bullshit.
I hold them accountable when I deal with them. Can't speak for everyone else though. | [
"It blows my mind Republicans have been campaigning on cutting Social Security, and Medicare and junk that Boomers are now preparing to get or are already getting, and Boomers still support them completely.",
">\n\nI always assumed any cuts would be geared at future benefits for people that are only just starting to pay in.\nAnd one might think, \"well why would people want to deny others of a benefit that they enjoy themselves\", but we already know the answer.",
">\n\nI know I'm in the minority as an elder millennial, I've been working for the past 25 years with no vacations and smart investments so I am more or less financially set.\nBut if social security is cut for my generation I will quit my job on the spot. I'm not going to pay in one more dime. Fuck these boomers who want to destroy the future to enrich themselves.",
">\n\nThat fact that you mentioned no vacations to be financially sound scares me. Don’t do that… there is zero guarantee you’ll make it to retirement age in shape to enjoy it. Enjoy life now",
">\n\nGenX here that followed the same strategy. My health is fucked. \nOn the bright side, I've probably saved enough for retirement because I'm going to die at my desk before I'm 60.",
">\n\nNot too late to change and start enjoying things now. Ive probably fucked myself over on retirement and that sucks but my body is failing hard and fast and I’m not even old age. I’m so glad I did a lot in my 20s and 30s because I am scared I’ll not make it to 50, let alone 60",
">\n\nNo friends and no interests. And most of my money is in long-term retirement. \nPlus, my medical bills would wipe me out if I quit my job.",
">\n\nAs someone else with no friends or interests I feel this\nExcept I have no investments.",
">\n\n“We’ve already begun work on a comprehensive budget, titled, ‘We hate Democrats Just Because.’ You’ll have it in two weeks.”",
">\n\n\"2 minutes, Turkish\"",
">\n\nIt was 2 minutes 5 minutes ago",
">\n\n\nA Republican budget proposal, the advisers said, should specify whether Republicans would pursue savings through cuts to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, health insurance subsidies, research or public safety spending.\n\nIn other words, you can’t just yell “stop the woke budget!” You have to point out exactly what money is allocated to those causes and then justify why.\nWe all know they won’t do this because they have nothing to point to. So they’ll decry “woke budget!” until the summer and then they will fuck over the country for cheap culture war points.",
">\n\nIt’s absolutely ridiculous. For the past decade at least, Republicans only goal has been to destroy faith in our institutions so they can point out how broken it is and how we need to vote them in to fix it. They are 100% willing to let the government default so they can point to it and say it’s all democrats fault. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. Their constituents religiously watch a single “news” source that tells them exactly what to believe.",
">\n\nWhile ironically calling everyone else around them sheep. Sighhh",
">\n\n“We will block the government from paying debts until you cut spending 😈 What do you think of that Sleepy Joe?”\n“What spending are you going to cut?”\n“Medicare and social securi- uh- I mean no, NO WE WON’T DO THAT! We’ll cut uh… uh… educa- no… uh… the military budg- ahhh our lobbyists need that… we’re gonna cut… something WOKE!”\n“Okay send me a budget.”\n“agggghhhh FUCK YOU JOE!! FUCK YOU!”\nLoving this new GOP that is both toothless and dumb.",
">\n\nThey’re dumb but they aren’t toothless. They can still crater the economy or force this into the (corrupt and right wing) courts and come out with a win.",
">\n\nThere is no world where the debt ceiling doesn’t get raised. It will be raised. The GOP just wants to embarass themselves a bit beforehand it seems",
">\n\nYou’re going to be wrong. They’re that stupid",
">\n\nIn order for the debt ceiling to not be raised, and the US to default on its loans, the Republicans will need almost all their congresspeople to remain opposed to raising it. Even as it causes a recession and blows up all their stock portfolios. \nThe debt ceiling will be raised. But it doesn’t need to be for 6 months. The treasury says it can take extraordinary measures to\nmove money around and pay off debts until June. So the Republicans might just keep refusing to raise the debt ceiling and make a show out of it for a few months.",
">\n\nThat would dominate the news cycles. Yawn.",
">\n\nIt will be produced right after their very beautiful health care plan.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for infrastructure week",
">\n\nInfrastructure week is done. By democrats of course.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"Set Obfuscate Shield to maximum deflection power!\"",
">\n\nLet’s be real, the Republican budget is a picture of Biden they drew a penis on with a Sharpie.",
">\n\nBut they drew it exaggeratedly large so they can see the joke. And now they unironically call him Big Dick Biden because they think he's acting like a huge dick.",
">\n\nTraceable accountability is garlic to the GOP vampire.",
">\n\nDems: \"Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"No!\"\nDems: \"Kevin, be serious here . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"I doan wanna!\nDems: \"C'mon now, Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"You can't make me!!! Just give me what my handlers want or I'm gonna turn on the space lasers!!!\"\n\"Pew! Pew! Pew!\" the Speaker added.",
">\n\nGOP: We want cut waste, fraud and abuse. \nPrez: okay, show us specifics on what you think should be cut.\nGOP: Waste, Fraud and Abuse!\nThey don’t want provide specific answers, because those will be unpopular. Biden asking for specifics, so he can hammer them on those specifics.",
">\n\nExactly and McCarthy is in an impossible position since he had to agree to a rules change in the House that would let a single member launch a challenge to his speakership. Hence his answer on Twitter which you nicely parroted. “Mr. President,” he wrote, “I received your staff’s memo. I’m not interested in political games. I’m coming to negotiate for the American people.”",
">\n\nGoing into a negotiation with a plan? Does uncle Joe even know republicans?",
">\n\nPresident Joe knows that there isn't a single Republican in Congress who can even fake a detailed budget thing in Word/PDF",
">\n\nThey're going to copy and paste last year's budget, and just reduce everything they don't like.",
">\n\nThen they need to say in detail everything they don't like and by how much they would like to reduce it.",
">\n\nHmm... a detailed budget you say?\n|Budget 2024|Amount|\n:--|:--|\n|Wokeness|$0|\n|Awesomeness|$ALL|\nWhy yes, I'd love a prestigious committee assignment. I'm thinking... chair of Ways and Means? Thanks, Kev!!",
">\n\nChatGOP. I’m calling it now.",
">\n\nIf we could actually just go ahead and replace the entire Republican Party with ChatGPT actually, that would be a step up. At least the AI does it’s job. The GOP is the real do-nothing party.",
">\n\nHe wants them to put in writing all the deeply unpopular demands they are making so no one can deny it later on.",
">\n\n“Curses! Foiled Again!” - Kevin McCarthy",
">\n\nGod. McCarthy is so bad at this.",
">\n\nGood move. He knows how difficult it will be for them to produce one, and even if they are capable of spitting something out, it will likely be unpopular and it will have further stressed their internal divisions.",
">\n\nSummary:\nWe need to cut spending on welfare, infrastructure, and local projects in your area, and futher increase handouts to the 1% and corporations and fatten up the military to prepare for more immoral wars like the Iraq War we blatantly lied our way into. \n-Signed The GOP.",
">\n\nYou are dead on. Now it's all about how they shove this pill down their voter's throats without them getting upset.",
">\n\nIt's hilarious that you have to remind the Republicans to make sure they bring an agenda to the meeting for the things they want.",
">\n\nLooks like the Republicans may have caught another car.",
">\n\nYou mean with like numbers and stuff??? That's a tall order from this bunch of dropouts.",
">\n\n\nFor Debt Ceiling Negotiation\n\nExcuse me?",
">\n\nBut that involves actual work, instead of just shit-talking the Dems.",
">\n\nGuessing the Republicans will produce nothing or something that is completely ridiculous. Republicans remind me of the kid on the school group project who refuses to work with the group and then when the presentation is due they say \"Well that was a shit show, I could have done way better just by myself.\"",
">\n\nHope the White House provided them with a coloring book and crayons.",
">\n\nIt'll be as detailed as Trump's healthcare plan",
">\n\nEvery step of the way has been glaring missteps on the part of republicans.",
">\n\nLol, no that actual would require them to do something, and they only love doing nothing or taking people rights…… if it doesn’t involve those two, forget it.",
">\n\nWhat's stopping the Republicans from just giving a deliberately BS budget? They're just going to lie to Biden lmao",
">\n\nWhat's stopping them is public attention. They can lie if they want, but the current administration is telling Republicans that whatever they say will be in public discussion.",
">\n\nWhen has that actually worked? \nI really, really really hate the mindset on this subreddit that you can shame the GOP into behaving themselves.\nThe Republicans OPENLY VIOLATE FEDERAL LAW ON A REGULAR BASIS WITH NO CONSEQUENCES. Who is holding them accountable? I'm getting sick and tired of this."
] |
>
Until I see the federal authorities mass arrest the entire GOP and declare the Republican Party a terrorist organization, they're not doing nearly enough | [
"It blows my mind Republicans have been campaigning on cutting Social Security, and Medicare and junk that Boomers are now preparing to get or are already getting, and Boomers still support them completely.",
">\n\nI always assumed any cuts would be geared at future benefits for people that are only just starting to pay in.\nAnd one might think, \"well why would people want to deny others of a benefit that they enjoy themselves\", but we already know the answer.",
">\n\nI know I'm in the minority as an elder millennial, I've been working for the past 25 years with no vacations and smart investments so I am more or less financially set.\nBut if social security is cut for my generation I will quit my job on the spot. I'm not going to pay in one more dime. Fuck these boomers who want to destroy the future to enrich themselves.",
">\n\nThat fact that you mentioned no vacations to be financially sound scares me. Don’t do that… there is zero guarantee you’ll make it to retirement age in shape to enjoy it. Enjoy life now",
">\n\nGenX here that followed the same strategy. My health is fucked. \nOn the bright side, I've probably saved enough for retirement because I'm going to die at my desk before I'm 60.",
">\n\nNot too late to change and start enjoying things now. Ive probably fucked myself over on retirement and that sucks but my body is failing hard and fast and I’m not even old age. I’m so glad I did a lot in my 20s and 30s because I am scared I’ll not make it to 50, let alone 60",
">\n\nNo friends and no interests. And most of my money is in long-term retirement. \nPlus, my medical bills would wipe me out if I quit my job.",
">\n\nAs someone else with no friends or interests I feel this\nExcept I have no investments.",
">\n\n“We’ve already begun work on a comprehensive budget, titled, ‘We hate Democrats Just Because.’ You’ll have it in two weeks.”",
">\n\n\"2 minutes, Turkish\"",
">\n\nIt was 2 minutes 5 minutes ago",
">\n\n\nA Republican budget proposal, the advisers said, should specify whether Republicans would pursue savings through cuts to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, health insurance subsidies, research or public safety spending.\n\nIn other words, you can’t just yell “stop the woke budget!” You have to point out exactly what money is allocated to those causes and then justify why.\nWe all know they won’t do this because they have nothing to point to. So they’ll decry “woke budget!” until the summer and then they will fuck over the country for cheap culture war points.",
">\n\nIt’s absolutely ridiculous. For the past decade at least, Republicans only goal has been to destroy faith in our institutions so they can point out how broken it is and how we need to vote them in to fix it. They are 100% willing to let the government default so they can point to it and say it’s all democrats fault. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. Their constituents religiously watch a single “news” source that tells them exactly what to believe.",
">\n\nWhile ironically calling everyone else around them sheep. Sighhh",
">\n\n“We will block the government from paying debts until you cut spending 😈 What do you think of that Sleepy Joe?”\n“What spending are you going to cut?”\n“Medicare and social securi- uh- I mean no, NO WE WON’T DO THAT! We’ll cut uh… uh… educa- no… uh… the military budg- ahhh our lobbyists need that… we’re gonna cut… something WOKE!”\n“Okay send me a budget.”\n“agggghhhh FUCK YOU JOE!! FUCK YOU!”\nLoving this new GOP that is both toothless and dumb.",
">\n\nThey’re dumb but they aren’t toothless. They can still crater the economy or force this into the (corrupt and right wing) courts and come out with a win.",
">\n\nThere is no world where the debt ceiling doesn’t get raised. It will be raised. The GOP just wants to embarass themselves a bit beforehand it seems",
">\n\nYou’re going to be wrong. They’re that stupid",
">\n\nIn order for the debt ceiling to not be raised, and the US to default on its loans, the Republicans will need almost all their congresspeople to remain opposed to raising it. Even as it causes a recession and blows up all their stock portfolios. \nThe debt ceiling will be raised. But it doesn’t need to be for 6 months. The treasury says it can take extraordinary measures to\nmove money around and pay off debts until June. So the Republicans might just keep refusing to raise the debt ceiling and make a show out of it for a few months.",
">\n\nThat would dominate the news cycles. Yawn.",
">\n\nIt will be produced right after their very beautiful health care plan.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for infrastructure week",
">\n\nInfrastructure week is done. By democrats of course.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"Set Obfuscate Shield to maximum deflection power!\"",
">\n\nLet’s be real, the Republican budget is a picture of Biden they drew a penis on with a Sharpie.",
">\n\nBut they drew it exaggeratedly large so they can see the joke. And now they unironically call him Big Dick Biden because they think he's acting like a huge dick.",
">\n\nTraceable accountability is garlic to the GOP vampire.",
">\n\nDems: \"Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"No!\"\nDems: \"Kevin, be serious here . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"I doan wanna!\nDems: \"C'mon now, Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"You can't make me!!! Just give me what my handlers want or I'm gonna turn on the space lasers!!!\"\n\"Pew! Pew! Pew!\" the Speaker added.",
">\n\nGOP: We want cut waste, fraud and abuse. \nPrez: okay, show us specifics on what you think should be cut.\nGOP: Waste, Fraud and Abuse!\nThey don’t want provide specific answers, because those will be unpopular. Biden asking for specifics, so he can hammer them on those specifics.",
">\n\nExactly and McCarthy is in an impossible position since he had to agree to a rules change in the House that would let a single member launch a challenge to his speakership. Hence his answer on Twitter which you nicely parroted. “Mr. President,” he wrote, “I received your staff’s memo. I’m not interested in political games. I’m coming to negotiate for the American people.”",
">\n\nGoing into a negotiation with a plan? Does uncle Joe even know republicans?",
">\n\nPresident Joe knows that there isn't a single Republican in Congress who can even fake a detailed budget thing in Word/PDF",
">\n\nThey're going to copy and paste last year's budget, and just reduce everything they don't like.",
">\n\nThen they need to say in detail everything they don't like and by how much they would like to reduce it.",
">\n\nHmm... a detailed budget you say?\n|Budget 2024|Amount|\n:--|:--|\n|Wokeness|$0|\n|Awesomeness|$ALL|\nWhy yes, I'd love a prestigious committee assignment. I'm thinking... chair of Ways and Means? Thanks, Kev!!",
">\n\nChatGOP. I’m calling it now.",
">\n\nIf we could actually just go ahead and replace the entire Republican Party with ChatGPT actually, that would be a step up. At least the AI does it’s job. The GOP is the real do-nothing party.",
">\n\nHe wants them to put in writing all the deeply unpopular demands they are making so no one can deny it later on.",
">\n\n“Curses! Foiled Again!” - Kevin McCarthy",
">\n\nGod. McCarthy is so bad at this.",
">\n\nGood move. He knows how difficult it will be for them to produce one, and even if they are capable of spitting something out, it will likely be unpopular and it will have further stressed their internal divisions.",
">\n\nSummary:\nWe need to cut spending on welfare, infrastructure, and local projects in your area, and futher increase handouts to the 1% and corporations and fatten up the military to prepare for more immoral wars like the Iraq War we blatantly lied our way into. \n-Signed The GOP.",
">\n\nYou are dead on. Now it's all about how they shove this pill down their voter's throats without them getting upset.",
">\n\nIt's hilarious that you have to remind the Republicans to make sure they bring an agenda to the meeting for the things they want.",
">\n\nLooks like the Republicans may have caught another car.",
">\n\nYou mean with like numbers and stuff??? That's a tall order from this bunch of dropouts.",
">\n\n\nFor Debt Ceiling Negotiation\n\nExcuse me?",
">\n\nBut that involves actual work, instead of just shit-talking the Dems.",
">\n\nGuessing the Republicans will produce nothing or something that is completely ridiculous. Republicans remind me of the kid on the school group project who refuses to work with the group and then when the presentation is due they say \"Well that was a shit show, I could have done way better just by myself.\"",
">\n\nHope the White House provided them with a coloring book and crayons.",
">\n\nIt'll be as detailed as Trump's healthcare plan",
">\n\nEvery step of the way has been glaring missteps on the part of republicans.",
">\n\nLol, no that actual would require them to do something, and they only love doing nothing or taking people rights…… if it doesn’t involve those two, forget it.",
">\n\nWhat's stopping the Republicans from just giving a deliberately BS budget? They're just going to lie to Biden lmao",
">\n\nWhat's stopping them is public attention. They can lie if they want, but the current administration is telling Republicans that whatever they say will be in public discussion.",
">\n\nWhen has that actually worked? \nI really, really really hate the mindset on this subreddit that you can shame the GOP into behaving themselves.\nThe Republicans OPENLY VIOLATE FEDERAL LAW ON A REGULAR BASIS WITH NO CONSEQUENCES. Who is holding them accountable? I'm getting sick and tired of this.",
">\n\n\nWhen has that actually worked? \n\nIt's never done. How often do you hear the actual conversations they have, and the plans they make? \n\nmindset on this subreddit that you can shame the GOP into behaving themselves.\n\nI'm not the subreddit, and I don't believe that at all. I treat them as they are, the end. I don't have to shame them, just like I don't have to accept their bullshit.\nI hold them accountable when I deal with them. Can't speak for everyone else though."
] |
>
Until I see the federal authorities mass arrest the entire GOP and declare the Republican Party a terrorist organization, they're not doing nearly enough
I'm not going anywhere near that far. I'm just a person and I'm going to do what I can on the matter. | [
"It blows my mind Republicans have been campaigning on cutting Social Security, and Medicare and junk that Boomers are now preparing to get or are already getting, and Boomers still support them completely.",
">\n\nI always assumed any cuts would be geared at future benefits for people that are only just starting to pay in.\nAnd one might think, \"well why would people want to deny others of a benefit that they enjoy themselves\", but we already know the answer.",
">\n\nI know I'm in the minority as an elder millennial, I've been working for the past 25 years with no vacations and smart investments so I am more or less financially set.\nBut if social security is cut for my generation I will quit my job on the spot. I'm not going to pay in one more dime. Fuck these boomers who want to destroy the future to enrich themselves.",
">\n\nThat fact that you mentioned no vacations to be financially sound scares me. Don’t do that… there is zero guarantee you’ll make it to retirement age in shape to enjoy it. Enjoy life now",
">\n\nGenX here that followed the same strategy. My health is fucked. \nOn the bright side, I've probably saved enough for retirement because I'm going to die at my desk before I'm 60.",
">\n\nNot too late to change and start enjoying things now. Ive probably fucked myself over on retirement and that sucks but my body is failing hard and fast and I’m not even old age. I’m so glad I did a lot in my 20s and 30s because I am scared I’ll not make it to 50, let alone 60",
">\n\nNo friends and no interests. And most of my money is in long-term retirement. \nPlus, my medical bills would wipe me out if I quit my job.",
">\n\nAs someone else with no friends or interests I feel this\nExcept I have no investments.",
">\n\n“We’ve already begun work on a comprehensive budget, titled, ‘We hate Democrats Just Because.’ You’ll have it in two weeks.”",
">\n\n\"2 minutes, Turkish\"",
">\n\nIt was 2 minutes 5 minutes ago",
">\n\n\nA Republican budget proposal, the advisers said, should specify whether Republicans would pursue savings through cuts to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, health insurance subsidies, research or public safety spending.\n\nIn other words, you can’t just yell “stop the woke budget!” You have to point out exactly what money is allocated to those causes and then justify why.\nWe all know they won’t do this because they have nothing to point to. So they’ll decry “woke budget!” until the summer and then they will fuck over the country for cheap culture war points.",
">\n\nIt’s absolutely ridiculous. For the past decade at least, Republicans only goal has been to destroy faith in our institutions so they can point out how broken it is and how we need to vote them in to fix it. They are 100% willing to let the government default so they can point to it and say it’s all democrats fault. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. Their constituents religiously watch a single “news” source that tells them exactly what to believe.",
">\n\nWhile ironically calling everyone else around them sheep. Sighhh",
">\n\n“We will block the government from paying debts until you cut spending 😈 What do you think of that Sleepy Joe?”\n“What spending are you going to cut?”\n“Medicare and social securi- uh- I mean no, NO WE WON’T DO THAT! We’ll cut uh… uh… educa- no… uh… the military budg- ahhh our lobbyists need that… we’re gonna cut… something WOKE!”\n“Okay send me a budget.”\n“agggghhhh FUCK YOU JOE!! FUCK YOU!”\nLoving this new GOP that is both toothless and dumb.",
">\n\nThey’re dumb but they aren’t toothless. They can still crater the economy or force this into the (corrupt and right wing) courts and come out with a win.",
">\n\nThere is no world where the debt ceiling doesn’t get raised. It will be raised. The GOP just wants to embarass themselves a bit beforehand it seems",
">\n\nYou’re going to be wrong. They’re that stupid",
">\n\nIn order for the debt ceiling to not be raised, and the US to default on its loans, the Republicans will need almost all their congresspeople to remain opposed to raising it. Even as it causes a recession and blows up all their stock portfolios. \nThe debt ceiling will be raised. But it doesn’t need to be for 6 months. The treasury says it can take extraordinary measures to\nmove money around and pay off debts until June. So the Republicans might just keep refusing to raise the debt ceiling and make a show out of it for a few months.",
">\n\nThat would dominate the news cycles. Yawn.",
">\n\nIt will be produced right after their very beautiful health care plan.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for infrastructure week",
">\n\nInfrastructure week is done. By democrats of course.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"Set Obfuscate Shield to maximum deflection power!\"",
">\n\nLet’s be real, the Republican budget is a picture of Biden they drew a penis on with a Sharpie.",
">\n\nBut they drew it exaggeratedly large so they can see the joke. And now they unironically call him Big Dick Biden because they think he's acting like a huge dick.",
">\n\nTraceable accountability is garlic to the GOP vampire.",
">\n\nDems: \"Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"No!\"\nDems: \"Kevin, be serious here . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"I doan wanna!\nDems: \"C'mon now, Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"You can't make me!!! Just give me what my handlers want or I'm gonna turn on the space lasers!!!\"\n\"Pew! Pew! Pew!\" the Speaker added.",
">\n\nGOP: We want cut waste, fraud and abuse. \nPrez: okay, show us specifics on what you think should be cut.\nGOP: Waste, Fraud and Abuse!\nThey don’t want provide specific answers, because those will be unpopular. Biden asking for specifics, so he can hammer them on those specifics.",
">\n\nExactly and McCarthy is in an impossible position since he had to agree to a rules change in the House that would let a single member launch a challenge to his speakership. Hence his answer on Twitter which you nicely parroted. “Mr. President,” he wrote, “I received your staff’s memo. I’m not interested in political games. I’m coming to negotiate for the American people.”",
">\n\nGoing into a negotiation with a plan? Does uncle Joe even know republicans?",
">\n\nPresident Joe knows that there isn't a single Republican in Congress who can even fake a detailed budget thing in Word/PDF",
">\n\nThey're going to copy and paste last year's budget, and just reduce everything they don't like.",
">\n\nThen they need to say in detail everything they don't like and by how much they would like to reduce it.",
">\n\nHmm... a detailed budget you say?\n|Budget 2024|Amount|\n:--|:--|\n|Wokeness|$0|\n|Awesomeness|$ALL|\nWhy yes, I'd love a prestigious committee assignment. I'm thinking... chair of Ways and Means? Thanks, Kev!!",
">\n\nChatGOP. I’m calling it now.",
">\n\nIf we could actually just go ahead and replace the entire Republican Party with ChatGPT actually, that would be a step up. At least the AI does it’s job. The GOP is the real do-nothing party.",
">\n\nHe wants them to put in writing all the deeply unpopular demands they are making so no one can deny it later on.",
">\n\n“Curses! Foiled Again!” - Kevin McCarthy",
">\n\nGod. McCarthy is so bad at this.",
">\n\nGood move. He knows how difficult it will be for them to produce one, and even if they are capable of spitting something out, it will likely be unpopular and it will have further stressed their internal divisions.",
">\n\nSummary:\nWe need to cut spending on welfare, infrastructure, and local projects in your area, and futher increase handouts to the 1% and corporations and fatten up the military to prepare for more immoral wars like the Iraq War we blatantly lied our way into. \n-Signed The GOP.",
">\n\nYou are dead on. Now it's all about how they shove this pill down their voter's throats without them getting upset.",
">\n\nIt's hilarious that you have to remind the Republicans to make sure they bring an agenda to the meeting for the things they want.",
">\n\nLooks like the Republicans may have caught another car.",
">\n\nYou mean with like numbers and stuff??? That's a tall order from this bunch of dropouts.",
">\n\n\nFor Debt Ceiling Negotiation\n\nExcuse me?",
">\n\nBut that involves actual work, instead of just shit-talking the Dems.",
">\n\nGuessing the Republicans will produce nothing or something that is completely ridiculous. Republicans remind me of the kid on the school group project who refuses to work with the group and then when the presentation is due they say \"Well that was a shit show, I could have done way better just by myself.\"",
">\n\nHope the White House provided them with a coloring book and crayons.",
">\n\nIt'll be as detailed as Trump's healthcare plan",
">\n\nEvery step of the way has been glaring missteps on the part of republicans.",
">\n\nLol, no that actual would require them to do something, and they only love doing nothing or taking people rights…… if it doesn’t involve those two, forget it.",
">\n\nWhat's stopping the Republicans from just giving a deliberately BS budget? They're just going to lie to Biden lmao",
">\n\nWhat's stopping them is public attention. They can lie if they want, but the current administration is telling Republicans that whatever they say will be in public discussion.",
">\n\nWhen has that actually worked? \nI really, really really hate the mindset on this subreddit that you can shame the GOP into behaving themselves.\nThe Republicans OPENLY VIOLATE FEDERAL LAW ON A REGULAR BASIS WITH NO CONSEQUENCES. Who is holding them accountable? I'm getting sick and tired of this.",
">\n\n\nWhen has that actually worked? \n\nIt's never done. How often do you hear the actual conversations they have, and the plans they make? \n\nmindset on this subreddit that you can shame the GOP into behaving themselves.\n\nI'm not the subreddit, and I don't believe that at all. I treat them as they are, the end. I don't have to shame them, just like I don't have to accept their bullshit.\nI hold them accountable when I deal with them. Can't speak for everyone else though.",
">\n\nUntil I see the federal authorities mass arrest the entire GOP and declare the Republican Party a terrorist organization, they're not doing nearly enough"
] |
>
I'm not asking you, God damn lmao. Where in my comment did I explicitly ask you to personally arrest the entire GOP? I'm saying what I want to happen.
You're being really pearl-clutchy and overly finicky for no reason. I'm not trying to interrogate or grill you. | [
"It blows my mind Republicans have been campaigning on cutting Social Security, and Medicare and junk that Boomers are now preparing to get or are already getting, and Boomers still support them completely.",
">\n\nI always assumed any cuts would be geared at future benefits for people that are only just starting to pay in.\nAnd one might think, \"well why would people want to deny others of a benefit that they enjoy themselves\", but we already know the answer.",
">\n\nI know I'm in the minority as an elder millennial, I've been working for the past 25 years with no vacations and smart investments so I am more or less financially set.\nBut if social security is cut for my generation I will quit my job on the spot. I'm not going to pay in one more dime. Fuck these boomers who want to destroy the future to enrich themselves.",
">\n\nThat fact that you mentioned no vacations to be financially sound scares me. Don’t do that… there is zero guarantee you’ll make it to retirement age in shape to enjoy it. Enjoy life now",
">\n\nGenX here that followed the same strategy. My health is fucked. \nOn the bright side, I've probably saved enough for retirement because I'm going to die at my desk before I'm 60.",
">\n\nNot too late to change and start enjoying things now. Ive probably fucked myself over on retirement and that sucks but my body is failing hard and fast and I’m not even old age. I’m so glad I did a lot in my 20s and 30s because I am scared I’ll not make it to 50, let alone 60",
">\n\nNo friends and no interests. And most of my money is in long-term retirement. \nPlus, my medical bills would wipe me out if I quit my job.",
">\n\nAs someone else with no friends or interests I feel this\nExcept I have no investments.",
">\n\n“We’ve already begun work on a comprehensive budget, titled, ‘We hate Democrats Just Because.’ You’ll have it in two weeks.”",
">\n\n\"2 minutes, Turkish\"",
">\n\nIt was 2 minutes 5 minutes ago",
">\n\n\nA Republican budget proposal, the advisers said, should specify whether Republicans would pursue savings through cuts to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, health insurance subsidies, research or public safety spending.\n\nIn other words, you can’t just yell “stop the woke budget!” You have to point out exactly what money is allocated to those causes and then justify why.\nWe all know they won’t do this because they have nothing to point to. So they’ll decry “woke budget!” until the summer and then they will fuck over the country for cheap culture war points.",
">\n\nIt’s absolutely ridiculous. For the past decade at least, Republicans only goal has been to destroy faith in our institutions so they can point out how broken it is and how we need to vote them in to fix it. They are 100% willing to let the government default so they can point to it and say it’s all democrats fault. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. Their constituents religiously watch a single “news” source that tells them exactly what to believe.",
">\n\nWhile ironically calling everyone else around them sheep. Sighhh",
">\n\n“We will block the government from paying debts until you cut spending 😈 What do you think of that Sleepy Joe?”\n“What spending are you going to cut?”\n“Medicare and social securi- uh- I mean no, NO WE WON’T DO THAT! We’ll cut uh… uh… educa- no… uh… the military budg- ahhh our lobbyists need that… we’re gonna cut… something WOKE!”\n“Okay send me a budget.”\n“agggghhhh FUCK YOU JOE!! FUCK YOU!”\nLoving this new GOP that is both toothless and dumb.",
">\n\nThey’re dumb but they aren’t toothless. They can still crater the economy or force this into the (corrupt and right wing) courts and come out with a win.",
">\n\nThere is no world where the debt ceiling doesn’t get raised. It will be raised. The GOP just wants to embarass themselves a bit beforehand it seems",
">\n\nYou’re going to be wrong. They’re that stupid",
">\n\nIn order for the debt ceiling to not be raised, and the US to default on its loans, the Republicans will need almost all their congresspeople to remain opposed to raising it. Even as it causes a recession and blows up all their stock portfolios. \nThe debt ceiling will be raised. But it doesn’t need to be for 6 months. The treasury says it can take extraordinary measures to\nmove money around and pay off debts until June. So the Republicans might just keep refusing to raise the debt ceiling and make a show out of it for a few months.",
">\n\nThat would dominate the news cycles. Yawn.",
">\n\nIt will be produced right after their very beautiful health care plan.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for infrastructure week",
">\n\nInfrastructure week is done. By democrats of course.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"Set Obfuscate Shield to maximum deflection power!\"",
">\n\nLet’s be real, the Republican budget is a picture of Biden they drew a penis on with a Sharpie.",
">\n\nBut they drew it exaggeratedly large so they can see the joke. And now they unironically call him Big Dick Biden because they think he's acting like a huge dick.",
">\n\nTraceable accountability is garlic to the GOP vampire.",
">\n\nDems: \"Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"No!\"\nDems: \"Kevin, be serious here . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"I doan wanna!\nDems: \"C'mon now, Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"You can't make me!!! Just give me what my handlers want or I'm gonna turn on the space lasers!!!\"\n\"Pew! Pew! Pew!\" the Speaker added.",
">\n\nGOP: We want cut waste, fraud and abuse. \nPrez: okay, show us specifics on what you think should be cut.\nGOP: Waste, Fraud and Abuse!\nThey don’t want provide specific answers, because those will be unpopular. Biden asking for specifics, so he can hammer them on those specifics.",
">\n\nExactly and McCarthy is in an impossible position since he had to agree to a rules change in the House that would let a single member launch a challenge to his speakership. Hence his answer on Twitter which you nicely parroted. “Mr. President,” he wrote, “I received your staff’s memo. I’m not interested in political games. I’m coming to negotiate for the American people.”",
">\n\nGoing into a negotiation with a plan? Does uncle Joe even know republicans?",
">\n\nPresident Joe knows that there isn't a single Republican in Congress who can even fake a detailed budget thing in Word/PDF",
">\n\nThey're going to copy and paste last year's budget, and just reduce everything they don't like.",
">\n\nThen they need to say in detail everything they don't like and by how much they would like to reduce it.",
">\n\nHmm... a detailed budget you say?\n|Budget 2024|Amount|\n:--|:--|\n|Wokeness|$0|\n|Awesomeness|$ALL|\nWhy yes, I'd love a prestigious committee assignment. I'm thinking... chair of Ways and Means? Thanks, Kev!!",
">\n\nChatGOP. I’m calling it now.",
">\n\nIf we could actually just go ahead and replace the entire Republican Party with ChatGPT actually, that would be a step up. At least the AI does it’s job. The GOP is the real do-nothing party.",
">\n\nHe wants them to put in writing all the deeply unpopular demands they are making so no one can deny it later on.",
">\n\n“Curses! Foiled Again!” - Kevin McCarthy",
">\n\nGod. McCarthy is so bad at this.",
">\n\nGood move. He knows how difficult it will be for them to produce one, and even if they are capable of spitting something out, it will likely be unpopular and it will have further stressed their internal divisions.",
">\n\nSummary:\nWe need to cut spending on welfare, infrastructure, and local projects in your area, and futher increase handouts to the 1% and corporations and fatten up the military to prepare for more immoral wars like the Iraq War we blatantly lied our way into. \n-Signed The GOP.",
">\n\nYou are dead on. Now it's all about how they shove this pill down their voter's throats without them getting upset.",
">\n\nIt's hilarious that you have to remind the Republicans to make sure they bring an agenda to the meeting for the things they want.",
">\n\nLooks like the Republicans may have caught another car.",
">\n\nYou mean with like numbers and stuff??? That's a tall order from this bunch of dropouts.",
">\n\n\nFor Debt Ceiling Negotiation\n\nExcuse me?",
">\n\nBut that involves actual work, instead of just shit-talking the Dems.",
">\n\nGuessing the Republicans will produce nothing or something that is completely ridiculous. Republicans remind me of the kid on the school group project who refuses to work with the group and then when the presentation is due they say \"Well that was a shit show, I could have done way better just by myself.\"",
">\n\nHope the White House provided them with a coloring book and crayons.",
">\n\nIt'll be as detailed as Trump's healthcare plan",
">\n\nEvery step of the way has been glaring missteps on the part of republicans.",
">\n\nLol, no that actual would require them to do something, and they only love doing nothing or taking people rights…… if it doesn’t involve those two, forget it.",
">\n\nWhat's stopping the Republicans from just giving a deliberately BS budget? They're just going to lie to Biden lmao",
">\n\nWhat's stopping them is public attention. They can lie if they want, but the current administration is telling Republicans that whatever they say will be in public discussion.",
">\n\nWhen has that actually worked? \nI really, really really hate the mindset on this subreddit that you can shame the GOP into behaving themselves.\nThe Republicans OPENLY VIOLATE FEDERAL LAW ON A REGULAR BASIS WITH NO CONSEQUENCES. Who is holding them accountable? I'm getting sick and tired of this.",
">\n\n\nWhen has that actually worked? \n\nIt's never done. How often do you hear the actual conversations they have, and the plans they make? \n\nmindset on this subreddit that you can shame the GOP into behaving themselves.\n\nI'm not the subreddit, and I don't believe that at all. I treat them as they are, the end. I don't have to shame them, just like I don't have to accept their bullshit.\nI hold them accountable when I deal with them. Can't speak for everyone else though.",
">\n\nUntil I see the federal authorities mass arrest the entire GOP and declare the Republican Party a terrorist organization, they're not doing nearly enough",
">\n\n\nUntil I see the federal authorities mass arrest the entire GOP and declare the Republican Party a terrorist organization, they're not doing nearly enough\n\nI'm not going anywhere near that far. I'm just a person and I'm going to do what I can on the matter."
] |
>
I'm not asking you, God damn lmao. Where in my comment did I explicitly ask you to personally arrest the entire GOP? I'm saying what I want to happen.
You're being really pearl-clutchy and overly finicky for no reason. I'm not trying to interrogate or grill you.
Good for you. | [
"It blows my mind Republicans have been campaigning on cutting Social Security, and Medicare and junk that Boomers are now preparing to get or are already getting, and Boomers still support them completely.",
">\n\nI always assumed any cuts would be geared at future benefits for people that are only just starting to pay in.\nAnd one might think, \"well why would people want to deny others of a benefit that they enjoy themselves\", but we already know the answer.",
">\n\nI know I'm in the minority as an elder millennial, I've been working for the past 25 years with no vacations and smart investments so I am more or less financially set.\nBut if social security is cut for my generation I will quit my job on the spot. I'm not going to pay in one more dime. Fuck these boomers who want to destroy the future to enrich themselves.",
">\n\nThat fact that you mentioned no vacations to be financially sound scares me. Don’t do that… there is zero guarantee you’ll make it to retirement age in shape to enjoy it. Enjoy life now",
">\n\nGenX here that followed the same strategy. My health is fucked. \nOn the bright side, I've probably saved enough for retirement because I'm going to die at my desk before I'm 60.",
">\n\nNot too late to change and start enjoying things now. Ive probably fucked myself over on retirement and that sucks but my body is failing hard and fast and I’m not even old age. I’m so glad I did a lot in my 20s and 30s because I am scared I’ll not make it to 50, let alone 60",
">\n\nNo friends and no interests. And most of my money is in long-term retirement. \nPlus, my medical bills would wipe me out if I quit my job.",
">\n\nAs someone else with no friends or interests I feel this\nExcept I have no investments.",
">\n\n“We’ve already begun work on a comprehensive budget, titled, ‘We hate Democrats Just Because.’ You’ll have it in two weeks.”",
">\n\n\"2 minutes, Turkish\"",
">\n\nIt was 2 minutes 5 minutes ago",
">\n\n\nA Republican budget proposal, the advisers said, should specify whether Republicans would pursue savings through cuts to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, health insurance subsidies, research or public safety spending.\n\nIn other words, you can’t just yell “stop the woke budget!” You have to point out exactly what money is allocated to those causes and then justify why.\nWe all know they won’t do this because they have nothing to point to. So they’ll decry “woke budget!” until the summer and then they will fuck over the country for cheap culture war points.",
">\n\nIt’s absolutely ridiculous. For the past decade at least, Republicans only goal has been to destroy faith in our institutions so they can point out how broken it is and how we need to vote them in to fix it. They are 100% willing to let the government default so they can point to it and say it’s all democrats fault. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. Their constituents religiously watch a single “news” source that tells them exactly what to believe.",
">\n\nWhile ironically calling everyone else around them sheep. Sighhh",
">\n\n“We will block the government from paying debts until you cut spending 😈 What do you think of that Sleepy Joe?”\n“What spending are you going to cut?”\n“Medicare and social securi- uh- I mean no, NO WE WON’T DO THAT! We’ll cut uh… uh… educa- no… uh… the military budg- ahhh our lobbyists need that… we’re gonna cut… something WOKE!”\n“Okay send me a budget.”\n“agggghhhh FUCK YOU JOE!! FUCK YOU!”\nLoving this new GOP that is both toothless and dumb.",
">\n\nThey’re dumb but they aren’t toothless. They can still crater the economy or force this into the (corrupt and right wing) courts and come out with a win.",
">\n\nThere is no world where the debt ceiling doesn’t get raised. It will be raised. The GOP just wants to embarass themselves a bit beforehand it seems",
">\n\nYou’re going to be wrong. They’re that stupid",
">\n\nIn order for the debt ceiling to not be raised, and the US to default on its loans, the Republicans will need almost all their congresspeople to remain opposed to raising it. Even as it causes a recession and blows up all their stock portfolios. \nThe debt ceiling will be raised. But it doesn’t need to be for 6 months. The treasury says it can take extraordinary measures to\nmove money around and pay off debts until June. So the Republicans might just keep refusing to raise the debt ceiling and make a show out of it for a few months.",
">\n\nThat would dominate the news cycles. Yawn.",
">\n\nIt will be produced right after their very beautiful health care plan.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for infrastructure week",
">\n\nInfrastructure week is done. By democrats of course.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"Set Obfuscate Shield to maximum deflection power!\"",
">\n\nLet’s be real, the Republican budget is a picture of Biden they drew a penis on with a Sharpie.",
">\n\nBut they drew it exaggeratedly large so they can see the joke. And now they unironically call him Big Dick Biden because they think he's acting like a huge dick.",
">\n\nTraceable accountability is garlic to the GOP vampire.",
">\n\nDems: \"Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"No!\"\nDems: \"Kevin, be serious here . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"I doan wanna!\nDems: \"C'mon now, Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"You can't make me!!! Just give me what my handlers want or I'm gonna turn on the space lasers!!!\"\n\"Pew! Pew! Pew!\" the Speaker added.",
">\n\nGOP: We want cut waste, fraud and abuse. \nPrez: okay, show us specifics on what you think should be cut.\nGOP: Waste, Fraud and Abuse!\nThey don’t want provide specific answers, because those will be unpopular. Biden asking for specifics, so he can hammer them on those specifics.",
">\n\nExactly and McCarthy is in an impossible position since he had to agree to a rules change in the House that would let a single member launch a challenge to his speakership. Hence his answer on Twitter which you nicely parroted. “Mr. President,” he wrote, “I received your staff’s memo. I’m not interested in political games. I’m coming to negotiate for the American people.”",
">\n\nGoing into a negotiation with a plan? Does uncle Joe even know republicans?",
">\n\nPresident Joe knows that there isn't a single Republican in Congress who can even fake a detailed budget thing in Word/PDF",
">\n\nThey're going to copy and paste last year's budget, and just reduce everything they don't like.",
">\n\nThen they need to say in detail everything they don't like and by how much they would like to reduce it.",
">\n\nHmm... a detailed budget you say?\n|Budget 2024|Amount|\n:--|:--|\n|Wokeness|$0|\n|Awesomeness|$ALL|\nWhy yes, I'd love a prestigious committee assignment. I'm thinking... chair of Ways and Means? Thanks, Kev!!",
">\n\nChatGOP. I’m calling it now.",
">\n\nIf we could actually just go ahead and replace the entire Republican Party with ChatGPT actually, that would be a step up. At least the AI does it’s job. The GOP is the real do-nothing party.",
">\n\nHe wants them to put in writing all the deeply unpopular demands they are making so no one can deny it later on.",
">\n\n“Curses! Foiled Again!” - Kevin McCarthy",
">\n\nGod. McCarthy is so bad at this.",
">\n\nGood move. He knows how difficult it will be for them to produce one, and even if they are capable of spitting something out, it will likely be unpopular and it will have further stressed their internal divisions.",
">\n\nSummary:\nWe need to cut spending on welfare, infrastructure, and local projects in your area, and futher increase handouts to the 1% and corporations and fatten up the military to prepare for more immoral wars like the Iraq War we blatantly lied our way into. \n-Signed The GOP.",
">\n\nYou are dead on. Now it's all about how they shove this pill down their voter's throats without them getting upset.",
">\n\nIt's hilarious that you have to remind the Republicans to make sure they bring an agenda to the meeting for the things they want.",
">\n\nLooks like the Republicans may have caught another car.",
">\n\nYou mean with like numbers and stuff??? That's a tall order from this bunch of dropouts.",
">\n\n\nFor Debt Ceiling Negotiation\n\nExcuse me?",
">\n\nBut that involves actual work, instead of just shit-talking the Dems.",
">\n\nGuessing the Republicans will produce nothing or something that is completely ridiculous. Republicans remind me of the kid on the school group project who refuses to work with the group and then when the presentation is due they say \"Well that was a shit show, I could have done way better just by myself.\"",
">\n\nHope the White House provided them with a coloring book and crayons.",
">\n\nIt'll be as detailed as Trump's healthcare plan",
">\n\nEvery step of the way has been glaring missteps on the part of republicans.",
">\n\nLol, no that actual would require them to do something, and they only love doing nothing or taking people rights…… if it doesn’t involve those two, forget it.",
">\n\nWhat's stopping the Republicans from just giving a deliberately BS budget? They're just going to lie to Biden lmao",
">\n\nWhat's stopping them is public attention. They can lie if they want, but the current administration is telling Republicans that whatever they say will be in public discussion.",
">\n\nWhen has that actually worked? \nI really, really really hate the mindset on this subreddit that you can shame the GOP into behaving themselves.\nThe Republicans OPENLY VIOLATE FEDERAL LAW ON A REGULAR BASIS WITH NO CONSEQUENCES. Who is holding them accountable? I'm getting sick and tired of this.",
">\n\n\nWhen has that actually worked? \n\nIt's never done. How often do you hear the actual conversations they have, and the plans they make? \n\nmindset on this subreddit that you can shame the GOP into behaving themselves.\n\nI'm not the subreddit, and I don't believe that at all. I treat them as they are, the end. I don't have to shame them, just like I don't have to accept their bullshit.\nI hold them accountable when I deal with them. Can't speak for everyone else though.",
">\n\nUntil I see the federal authorities mass arrest the entire GOP and declare the Republican Party a terrorist organization, they're not doing nearly enough",
">\n\n\nUntil I see the federal authorities mass arrest the entire GOP and declare the Republican Party a terrorist organization, they're not doing nearly enough\n\nI'm not going anywhere near that far. I'm just a person and I'm going to do what I can on the matter.",
">\n\nI'm not asking you, God damn lmao. Where in my comment did I explicitly ask you to personally arrest the entire GOP? I'm saying what I want to happen.\nYou're being really pearl-clutchy and overly finicky for no reason. I'm not trying to interrogate or grill you."
] |
>
So what happened to no negotiations? | [
"It blows my mind Republicans have been campaigning on cutting Social Security, and Medicare and junk that Boomers are now preparing to get or are already getting, and Boomers still support them completely.",
">\n\nI always assumed any cuts would be geared at future benefits for people that are only just starting to pay in.\nAnd one might think, \"well why would people want to deny others of a benefit that they enjoy themselves\", but we already know the answer.",
">\n\nI know I'm in the minority as an elder millennial, I've been working for the past 25 years with no vacations and smart investments so I am more or less financially set.\nBut if social security is cut for my generation I will quit my job on the spot. I'm not going to pay in one more dime. Fuck these boomers who want to destroy the future to enrich themselves.",
">\n\nThat fact that you mentioned no vacations to be financially sound scares me. Don’t do that… there is zero guarantee you’ll make it to retirement age in shape to enjoy it. Enjoy life now",
">\n\nGenX here that followed the same strategy. My health is fucked. \nOn the bright side, I've probably saved enough for retirement because I'm going to die at my desk before I'm 60.",
">\n\nNot too late to change and start enjoying things now. Ive probably fucked myself over on retirement and that sucks but my body is failing hard and fast and I’m not even old age. I’m so glad I did a lot in my 20s and 30s because I am scared I’ll not make it to 50, let alone 60",
">\n\nNo friends and no interests. And most of my money is in long-term retirement. \nPlus, my medical bills would wipe me out if I quit my job.",
">\n\nAs someone else with no friends or interests I feel this\nExcept I have no investments.",
">\n\n“We’ve already begun work on a comprehensive budget, titled, ‘We hate Democrats Just Because.’ You’ll have it in two weeks.”",
">\n\n\"2 minutes, Turkish\"",
">\n\nIt was 2 minutes 5 minutes ago",
">\n\n\nA Republican budget proposal, the advisers said, should specify whether Republicans would pursue savings through cuts to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, health insurance subsidies, research or public safety spending.\n\nIn other words, you can’t just yell “stop the woke budget!” You have to point out exactly what money is allocated to those causes and then justify why.\nWe all know they won’t do this because they have nothing to point to. So they’ll decry “woke budget!” until the summer and then they will fuck over the country for cheap culture war points.",
">\n\nIt’s absolutely ridiculous. For the past decade at least, Republicans only goal has been to destroy faith in our institutions so they can point out how broken it is and how we need to vote them in to fix it. They are 100% willing to let the government default so they can point to it and say it’s all democrats fault. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. Their constituents religiously watch a single “news” source that tells them exactly what to believe.",
">\n\nWhile ironically calling everyone else around them sheep. Sighhh",
">\n\n“We will block the government from paying debts until you cut spending 😈 What do you think of that Sleepy Joe?”\n“What spending are you going to cut?”\n“Medicare and social securi- uh- I mean no, NO WE WON’T DO THAT! We’ll cut uh… uh… educa- no… uh… the military budg- ahhh our lobbyists need that… we’re gonna cut… something WOKE!”\n“Okay send me a budget.”\n“agggghhhh FUCK YOU JOE!! FUCK YOU!”\nLoving this new GOP that is both toothless and dumb.",
">\n\nThey’re dumb but they aren’t toothless. They can still crater the economy or force this into the (corrupt and right wing) courts and come out with a win.",
">\n\nThere is no world where the debt ceiling doesn’t get raised. It will be raised. The GOP just wants to embarass themselves a bit beforehand it seems",
">\n\nYou’re going to be wrong. They’re that stupid",
">\n\nIn order for the debt ceiling to not be raised, and the US to default on its loans, the Republicans will need almost all their congresspeople to remain opposed to raising it. Even as it causes a recession and blows up all their stock portfolios. \nThe debt ceiling will be raised. But it doesn’t need to be for 6 months. The treasury says it can take extraordinary measures to\nmove money around and pay off debts until June. So the Republicans might just keep refusing to raise the debt ceiling and make a show out of it for a few months.",
">\n\nThat would dominate the news cycles. Yawn.",
">\n\nIt will be produced right after their very beautiful health care plan.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for infrastructure week",
">\n\nInfrastructure week is done. By democrats of course.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"Set Obfuscate Shield to maximum deflection power!\"",
">\n\nLet’s be real, the Republican budget is a picture of Biden they drew a penis on with a Sharpie.",
">\n\nBut they drew it exaggeratedly large so they can see the joke. And now they unironically call him Big Dick Biden because they think he's acting like a huge dick.",
">\n\nTraceable accountability is garlic to the GOP vampire.",
">\n\nDems: \"Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"No!\"\nDems: \"Kevin, be serious here . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"I doan wanna!\nDems: \"C'mon now, Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"You can't make me!!! Just give me what my handlers want or I'm gonna turn on the space lasers!!!\"\n\"Pew! Pew! Pew!\" the Speaker added.",
">\n\nGOP: We want cut waste, fraud and abuse. \nPrez: okay, show us specifics on what you think should be cut.\nGOP: Waste, Fraud and Abuse!\nThey don’t want provide specific answers, because those will be unpopular. Biden asking for specifics, so he can hammer them on those specifics.",
">\n\nExactly and McCarthy is in an impossible position since he had to agree to a rules change in the House that would let a single member launch a challenge to his speakership. Hence his answer on Twitter which you nicely parroted. “Mr. President,” he wrote, “I received your staff’s memo. I’m not interested in political games. I’m coming to negotiate for the American people.”",
">\n\nGoing into a negotiation with a plan? Does uncle Joe even know republicans?",
">\n\nPresident Joe knows that there isn't a single Republican in Congress who can even fake a detailed budget thing in Word/PDF",
">\n\nThey're going to copy and paste last year's budget, and just reduce everything they don't like.",
">\n\nThen they need to say in detail everything they don't like and by how much they would like to reduce it.",
">\n\nHmm... a detailed budget you say?\n|Budget 2024|Amount|\n:--|:--|\n|Wokeness|$0|\n|Awesomeness|$ALL|\nWhy yes, I'd love a prestigious committee assignment. I'm thinking... chair of Ways and Means? Thanks, Kev!!",
">\n\nChatGOP. I’m calling it now.",
">\n\nIf we could actually just go ahead and replace the entire Republican Party with ChatGPT actually, that would be a step up. At least the AI does it’s job. The GOP is the real do-nothing party.",
">\n\nHe wants them to put in writing all the deeply unpopular demands they are making so no one can deny it later on.",
">\n\n“Curses! Foiled Again!” - Kevin McCarthy",
">\n\nGod. McCarthy is so bad at this.",
">\n\nGood move. He knows how difficult it will be for them to produce one, and even if they are capable of spitting something out, it will likely be unpopular and it will have further stressed their internal divisions.",
">\n\nSummary:\nWe need to cut spending on welfare, infrastructure, and local projects in your area, and futher increase handouts to the 1% and corporations and fatten up the military to prepare for more immoral wars like the Iraq War we blatantly lied our way into. \n-Signed The GOP.",
">\n\nYou are dead on. Now it's all about how they shove this pill down their voter's throats without them getting upset.",
">\n\nIt's hilarious that you have to remind the Republicans to make sure they bring an agenda to the meeting for the things they want.",
">\n\nLooks like the Republicans may have caught another car.",
">\n\nYou mean with like numbers and stuff??? That's a tall order from this bunch of dropouts.",
">\n\n\nFor Debt Ceiling Negotiation\n\nExcuse me?",
">\n\nBut that involves actual work, instead of just shit-talking the Dems.",
">\n\nGuessing the Republicans will produce nothing or something that is completely ridiculous. Republicans remind me of the kid on the school group project who refuses to work with the group and then when the presentation is due they say \"Well that was a shit show, I could have done way better just by myself.\"",
">\n\nHope the White House provided them with a coloring book and crayons.",
">\n\nIt'll be as detailed as Trump's healthcare plan",
">\n\nEvery step of the way has been glaring missteps on the part of republicans.",
">\n\nLol, no that actual would require them to do something, and they only love doing nothing or taking people rights…… if it doesn’t involve those two, forget it.",
">\n\nWhat's stopping the Republicans from just giving a deliberately BS budget? They're just going to lie to Biden lmao",
">\n\nWhat's stopping them is public attention. They can lie if they want, but the current administration is telling Republicans that whatever they say will be in public discussion.",
">\n\nWhen has that actually worked? \nI really, really really hate the mindset on this subreddit that you can shame the GOP into behaving themselves.\nThe Republicans OPENLY VIOLATE FEDERAL LAW ON A REGULAR BASIS WITH NO CONSEQUENCES. Who is holding them accountable? I'm getting sick and tired of this.",
">\n\n\nWhen has that actually worked? \n\nIt's never done. How often do you hear the actual conversations they have, and the plans they make? \n\nmindset on this subreddit that you can shame the GOP into behaving themselves.\n\nI'm not the subreddit, and I don't believe that at all. I treat them as they are, the end. I don't have to shame them, just like I don't have to accept their bullshit.\nI hold them accountable when I deal with them. Can't speak for everyone else though.",
">\n\nUntil I see the federal authorities mass arrest the entire GOP and declare the Republican Party a terrorist organization, they're not doing nearly enough",
">\n\n\nUntil I see the federal authorities mass arrest the entire GOP and declare the Republican Party a terrorist organization, they're not doing nearly enough\n\nI'm not going anywhere near that far. I'm just a person and I'm going to do what I can on the matter.",
">\n\nI'm not asking you, God damn lmao. Where in my comment did I explicitly ask you to personally arrest the entire GOP? I'm saying what I want to happen.\nYou're being really pearl-clutchy and overly finicky for no reason. I'm not trying to interrogate or grill you.",
">\n\n\nI'm not asking you, God damn lmao. Where in my comment did I explicitly ask you to personally arrest the entire GOP? I'm saying what I want to happen.\nYou're being really pearl-clutchy and overly finicky for no reason. I'm not trying to interrogate or grill you.\n\nGood for you."
] |
>
There should be a negotiation on the federal budget. The house is directly responsible for creating the spending bill. It's one of their primary jobs.
I think the "no negotiations" was around deciding not to pay outstanding debts. There's no reason for Biden to negotiate on that because the House already passed the bills authorizing the spending.
I think it is probably valuable to force Republicans to do a minimum amount of work if they don't want to pay the bills, even if he doesn't expect to agree to compromises around not paying the budget based on it. I personally doubt they have thought any of it through in detail. Why would they? The last Tax Cuts and Jobs Act was riddled with errors and was written in the margins at 3am... and that was their more reasonable Senate reps. | [
"It blows my mind Republicans have been campaigning on cutting Social Security, and Medicare and junk that Boomers are now preparing to get or are already getting, and Boomers still support them completely.",
">\n\nI always assumed any cuts would be geared at future benefits for people that are only just starting to pay in.\nAnd one might think, \"well why would people want to deny others of a benefit that they enjoy themselves\", but we already know the answer.",
">\n\nI know I'm in the minority as an elder millennial, I've been working for the past 25 years with no vacations and smart investments so I am more or less financially set.\nBut if social security is cut for my generation I will quit my job on the spot. I'm not going to pay in one more dime. Fuck these boomers who want to destroy the future to enrich themselves.",
">\n\nThat fact that you mentioned no vacations to be financially sound scares me. Don’t do that… there is zero guarantee you’ll make it to retirement age in shape to enjoy it. Enjoy life now",
">\n\nGenX here that followed the same strategy. My health is fucked. \nOn the bright side, I've probably saved enough for retirement because I'm going to die at my desk before I'm 60.",
">\n\nNot too late to change and start enjoying things now. Ive probably fucked myself over on retirement and that sucks but my body is failing hard and fast and I’m not even old age. I’m so glad I did a lot in my 20s and 30s because I am scared I’ll not make it to 50, let alone 60",
">\n\nNo friends and no interests. And most of my money is in long-term retirement. \nPlus, my medical bills would wipe me out if I quit my job.",
">\n\nAs someone else with no friends or interests I feel this\nExcept I have no investments.",
">\n\n“We’ve already begun work on a comprehensive budget, titled, ‘We hate Democrats Just Because.’ You’ll have it in two weeks.”",
">\n\n\"2 minutes, Turkish\"",
">\n\nIt was 2 minutes 5 minutes ago",
">\n\n\nA Republican budget proposal, the advisers said, should specify whether Republicans would pursue savings through cuts to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, health insurance subsidies, research or public safety spending.\n\nIn other words, you can’t just yell “stop the woke budget!” You have to point out exactly what money is allocated to those causes and then justify why.\nWe all know they won’t do this because they have nothing to point to. So they’ll decry “woke budget!” until the summer and then they will fuck over the country for cheap culture war points.",
">\n\nIt’s absolutely ridiculous. For the past decade at least, Republicans only goal has been to destroy faith in our institutions so they can point out how broken it is and how we need to vote them in to fix it. They are 100% willing to let the government default so they can point to it and say it’s all democrats fault. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. Their constituents religiously watch a single “news” source that tells them exactly what to believe.",
">\n\nWhile ironically calling everyone else around them sheep. Sighhh",
">\n\n“We will block the government from paying debts until you cut spending 😈 What do you think of that Sleepy Joe?”\n“What spending are you going to cut?”\n“Medicare and social securi- uh- I mean no, NO WE WON’T DO THAT! We’ll cut uh… uh… educa- no… uh… the military budg- ahhh our lobbyists need that… we’re gonna cut… something WOKE!”\n“Okay send me a budget.”\n“agggghhhh FUCK YOU JOE!! FUCK YOU!”\nLoving this new GOP that is both toothless and dumb.",
">\n\nThey’re dumb but they aren’t toothless. They can still crater the economy or force this into the (corrupt and right wing) courts and come out with a win.",
">\n\nThere is no world where the debt ceiling doesn’t get raised. It will be raised. The GOP just wants to embarass themselves a bit beforehand it seems",
">\n\nYou’re going to be wrong. They’re that stupid",
">\n\nIn order for the debt ceiling to not be raised, and the US to default on its loans, the Republicans will need almost all their congresspeople to remain opposed to raising it. Even as it causes a recession and blows up all their stock portfolios. \nThe debt ceiling will be raised. But it doesn’t need to be for 6 months. The treasury says it can take extraordinary measures to\nmove money around and pay off debts until June. So the Republicans might just keep refusing to raise the debt ceiling and make a show out of it for a few months.",
">\n\nThat would dominate the news cycles. Yawn.",
">\n\nIt will be produced right after their very beautiful health care plan.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for infrastructure week",
">\n\nInfrastructure week is done. By democrats of course.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"Set Obfuscate Shield to maximum deflection power!\"",
">\n\nLet’s be real, the Republican budget is a picture of Biden they drew a penis on with a Sharpie.",
">\n\nBut they drew it exaggeratedly large so they can see the joke. And now they unironically call him Big Dick Biden because they think he's acting like a huge dick.",
">\n\nTraceable accountability is garlic to the GOP vampire.",
">\n\nDems: \"Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"No!\"\nDems: \"Kevin, be serious here . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"I doan wanna!\nDems: \"C'mon now, Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"You can't make me!!! Just give me what my handlers want or I'm gonna turn on the space lasers!!!\"\n\"Pew! Pew! Pew!\" the Speaker added.",
">\n\nGOP: We want cut waste, fraud and abuse. \nPrez: okay, show us specifics on what you think should be cut.\nGOP: Waste, Fraud and Abuse!\nThey don’t want provide specific answers, because those will be unpopular. Biden asking for specifics, so he can hammer them on those specifics.",
">\n\nExactly and McCarthy is in an impossible position since he had to agree to a rules change in the House that would let a single member launch a challenge to his speakership. Hence his answer on Twitter which you nicely parroted. “Mr. President,” he wrote, “I received your staff’s memo. I’m not interested in political games. I’m coming to negotiate for the American people.”",
">\n\nGoing into a negotiation with a plan? Does uncle Joe even know republicans?",
">\n\nPresident Joe knows that there isn't a single Republican in Congress who can even fake a detailed budget thing in Word/PDF",
">\n\nThey're going to copy and paste last year's budget, and just reduce everything they don't like.",
">\n\nThen they need to say in detail everything they don't like and by how much they would like to reduce it.",
">\n\nHmm... a detailed budget you say?\n|Budget 2024|Amount|\n:--|:--|\n|Wokeness|$0|\n|Awesomeness|$ALL|\nWhy yes, I'd love a prestigious committee assignment. I'm thinking... chair of Ways and Means? Thanks, Kev!!",
">\n\nChatGOP. I’m calling it now.",
">\n\nIf we could actually just go ahead and replace the entire Republican Party with ChatGPT actually, that would be a step up. At least the AI does it’s job. The GOP is the real do-nothing party.",
">\n\nHe wants them to put in writing all the deeply unpopular demands they are making so no one can deny it later on.",
">\n\n“Curses! Foiled Again!” - Kevin McCarthy",
">\n\nGod. McCarthy is so bad at this.",
">\n\nGood move. He knows how difficult it will be for them to produce one, and even if they are capable of spitting something out, it will likely be unpopular and it will have further stressed their internal divisions.",
">\n\nSummary:\nWe need to cut spending on welfare, infrastructure, and local projects in your area, and futher increase handouts to the 1% and corporations and fatten up the military to prepare for more immoral wars like the Iraq War we blatantly lied our way into. \n-Signed The GOP.",
">\n\nYou are dead on. Now it's all about how they shove this pill down their voter's throats without them getting upset.",
">\n\nIt's hilarious that you have to remind the Republicans to make sure they bring an agenda to the meeting for the things they want.",
">\n\nLooks like the Republicans may have caught another car.",
">\n\nYou mean with like numbers and stuff??? That's a tall order from this bunch of dropouts.",
">\n\n\nFor Debt Ceiling Negotiation\n\nExcuse me?",
">\n\nBut that involves actual work, instead of just shit-talking the Dems.",
">\n\nGuessing the Republicans will produce nothing or something that is completely ridiculous. Republicans remind me of the kid on the school group project who refuses to work with the group and then when the presentation is due they say \"Well that was a shit show, I could have done way better just by myself.\"",
">\n\nHope the White House provided them with a coloring book and crayons.",
">\n\nIt'll be as detailed as Trump's healthcare plan",
">\n\nEvery step of the way has been glaring missteps on the part of republicans.",
">\n\nLol, no that actual would require them to do something, and they only love doing nothing or taking people rights…… if it doesn’t involve those two, forget it.",
">\n\nWhat's stopping the Republicans from just giving a deliberately BS budget? They're just going to lie to Biden lmao",
">\n\nWhat's stopping them is public attention. They can lie if they want, but the current administration is telling Republicans that whatever they say will be in public discussion.",
">\n\nWhen has that actually worked? \nI really, really really hate the mindset on this subreddit that you can shame the GOP into behaving themselves.\nThe Republicans OPENLY VIOLATE FEDERAL LAW ON A REGULAR BASIS WITH NO CONSEQUENCES. Who is holding them accountable? I'm getting sick and tired of this.",
">\n\n\nWhen has that actually worked? \n\nIt's never done. How often do you hear the actual conversations they have, and the plans they make? \n\nmindset on this subreddit that you can shame the GOP into behaving themselves.\n\nI'm not the subreddit, and I don't believe that at all. I treat them as they are, the end. I don't have to shame them, just like I don't have to accept their bullshit.\nI hold them accountable when I deal with them. Can't speak for everyone else though.",
">\n\nUntil I see the federal authorities mass arrest the entire GOP and declare the Republican Party a terrorist organization, they're not doing nearly enough",
">\n\n\nUntil I see the federal authorities mass arrest the entire GOP and declare the Republican Party a terrorist organization, they're not doing nearly enough\n\nI'm not going anywhere near that far. I'm just a person and I'm going to do what I can on the matter.",
">\n\nI'm not asking you, God damn lmao. Where in my comment did I explicitly ask you to personally arrest the entire GOP? I'm saying what I want to happen.\nYou're being really pearl-clutchy and overly finicky for no reason. I'm not trying to interrogate or grill you.",
">\n\n\nI'm not asking you, God damn lmao. Where in my comment did I explicitly ask you to personally arrest the entire GOP? I'm saying what I want to happen.\nYou're being really pearl-clutchy and overly finicky for no reason. I'm not trying to interrogate or grill you.\n\nGood for you.",
">\n\nSo what happened to no negotiations?"
] |
>
Why do Democratic continue to use the language if a budget negotiation? This is not a budget negotiation! Yes, Dems need to force the GOP to declare what it is they are actually proposing to cut but Democrats need to educate the public about the process of the debt ceiling and not allow the GOP to conflate budget negotiations with paying for debts already incurred. Voters are smart enough to understand the difference | [
"It blows my mind Republicans have been campaigning on cutting Social Security, and Medicare and junk that Boomers are now preparing to get or are already getting, and Boomers still support them completely.",
">\n\nI always assumed any cuts would be geared at future benefits for people that are only just starting to pay in.\nAnd one might think, \"well why would people want to deny others of a benefit that they enjoy themselves\", but we already know the answer.",
">\n\nI know I'm in the minority as an elder millennial, I've been working for the past 25 years with no vacations and smart investments so I am more or less financially set.\nBut if social security is cut for my generation I will quit my job on the spot. I'm not going to pay in one more dime. Fuck these boomers who want to destroy the future to enrich themselves.",
">\n\nThat fact that you mentioned no vacations to be financially sound scares me. Don’t do that… there is zero guarantee you’ll make it to retirement age in shape to enjoy it. Enjoy life now",
">\n\nGenX here that followed the same strategy. My health is fucked. \nOn the bright side, I've probably saved enough for retirement because I'm going to die at my desk before I'm 60.",
">\n\nNot too late to change and start enjoying things now. Ive probably fucked myself over on retirement and that sucks but my body is failing hard and fast and I’m not even old age. I’m so glad I did a lot in my 20s and 30s because I am scared I’ll not make it to 50, let alone 60",
">\n\nNo friends and no interests. And most of my money is in long-term retirement. \nPlus, my medical bills would wipe me out if I quit my job.",
">\n\nAs someone else with no friends or interests I feel this\nExcept I have no investments.",
">\n\n“We’ve already begun work on a comprehensive budget, titled, ‘We hate Democrats Just Because.’ You’ll have it in two weeks.”",
">\n\n\"2 minutes, Turkish\"",
">\n\nIt was 2 minutes 5 minutes ago",
">\n\n\nA Republican budget proposal, the advisers said, should specify whether Republicans would pursue savings through cuts to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, health insurance subsidies, research or public safety spending.\n\nIn other words, you can’t just yell “stop the woke budget!” You have to point out exactly what money is allocated to those causes and then justify why.\nWe all know they won’t do this because they have nothing to point to. So they’ll decry “woke budget!” until the summer and then they will fuck over the country for cheap culture war points.",
">\n\nIt’s absolutely ridiculous. For the past decade at least, Republicans only goal has been to destroy faith in our institutions so they can point out how broken it is and how we need to vote them in to fix it. They are 100% willing to let the government default so they can point to it and say it’s all democrats fault. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. Their constituents religiously watch a single “news” source that tells them exactly what to believe.",
">\n\nWhile ironically calling everyone else around them sheep. Sighhh",
">\n\n“We will block the government from paying debts until you cut spending 😈 What do you think of that Sleepy Joe?”\n“What spending are you going to cut?”\n“Medicare and social securi- uh- I mean no, NO WE WON’T DO THAT! We’ll cut uh… uh… educa- no… uh… the military budg- ahhh our lobbyists need that… we’re gonna cut… something WOKE!”\n“Okay send me a budget.”\n“agggghhhh FUCK YOU JOE!! FUCK YOU!”\nLoving this new GOP that is both toothless and dumb.",
">\n\nThey’re dumb but they aren’t toothless. They can still crater the economy or force this into the (corrupt and right wing) courts and come out with a win.",
">\n\nThere is no world where the debt ceiling doesn’t get raised. It will be raised. The GOP just wants to embarass themselves a bit beforehand it seems",
">\n\nYou’re going to be wrong. They’re that stupid",
">\n\nIn order for the debt ceiling to not be raised, and the US to default on its loans, the Republicans will need almost all their congresspeople to remain opposed to raising it. Even as it causes a recession and blows up all their stock portfolios. \nThe debt ceiling will be raised. But it doesn’t need to be for 6 months. The treasury says it can take extraordinary measures to\nmove money around and pay off debts until June. So the Republicans might just keep refusing to raise the debt ceiling and make a show out of it for a few months.",
">\n\nThat would dominate the news cycles. Yawn.",
">\n\nIt will be produced right after their very beautiful health care plan.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for infrastructure week",
">\n\nInfrastructure week is done. By democrats of course.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"Set Obfuscate Shield to maximum deflection power!\"",
">\n\nLet’s be real, the Republican budget is a picture of Biden they drew a penis on with a Sharpie.",
">\n\nBut they drew it exaggeratedly large so they can see the joke. And now they unironically call him Big Dick Biden because they think he's acting like a huge dick.",
">\n\nTraceable accountability is garlic to the GOP vampire.",
">\n\nDems: \"Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"No!\"\nDems: \"Kevin, be serious here . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"I doan wanna!\nDems: \"C'mon now, Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"You can't make me!!! Just give me what my handlers want or I'm gonna turn on the space lasers!!!\"\n\"Pew! Pew! Pew!\" the Speaker added.",
">\n\nGOP: We want cut waste, fraud and abuse. \nPrez: okay, show us specifics on what you think should be cut.\nGOP: Waste, Fraud and Abuse!\nThey don’t want provide specific answers, because those will be unpopular. Biden asking for specifics, so he can hammer them on those specifics.",
">\n\nExactly and McCarthy is in an impossible position since he had to agree to a rules change in the House that would let a single member launch a challenge to his speakership. Hence his answer on Twitter which you nicely parroted. “Mr. President,” he wrote, “I received your staff’s memo. I’m not interested in political games. I’m coming to negotiate for the American people.”",
">\n\nGoing into a negotiation with a plan? Does uncle Joe even know republicans?",
">\n\nPresident Joe knows that there isn't a single Republican in Congress who can even fake a detailed budget thing in Word/PDF",
">\n\nThey're going to copy and paste last year's budget, and just reduce everything they don't like.",
">\n\nThen they need to say in detail everything they don't like and by how much they would like to reduce it.",
">\n\nHmm... a detailed budget you say?\n|Budget 2024|Amount|\n:--|:--|\n|Wokeness|$0|\n|Awesomeness|$ALL|\nWhy yes, I'd love a prestigious committee assignment. I'm thinking... chair of Ways and Means? Thanks, Kev!!",
">\n\nChatGOP. I’m calling it now.",
">\n\nIf we could actually just go ahead and replace the entire Republican Party with ChatGPT actually, that would be a step up. At least the AI does it’s job. The GOP is the real do-nothing party.",
">\n\nHe wants them to put in writing all the deeply unpopular demands they are making so no one can deny it later on.",
">\n\n“Curses! Foiled Again!” - Kevin McCarthy",
">\n\nGod. McCarthy is so bad at this.",
">\n\nGood move. He knows how difficult it will be for them to produce one, and even if they are capable of spitting something out, it will likely be unpopular and it will have further stressed their internal divisions.",
">\n\nSummary:\nWe need to cut spending on welfare, infrastructure, and local projects in your area, and futher increase handouts to the 1% and corporations and fatten up the military to prepare for more immoral wars like the Iraq War we blatantly lied our way into. \n-Signed The GOP.",
">\n\nYou are dead on. Now it's all about how they shove this pill down their voter's throats without them getting upset.",
">\n\nIt's hilarious that you have to remind the Republicans to make sure they bring an agenda to the meeting for the things they want.",
">\n\nLooks like the Republicans may have caught another car.",
">\n\nYou mean with like numbers and stuff??? That's a tall order from this bunch of dropouts.",
">\n\n\nFor Debt Ceiling Negotiation\n\nExcuse me?",
">\n\nBut that involves actual work, instead of just shit-talking the Dems.",
">\n\nGuessing the Republicans will produce nothing or something that is completely ridiculous. Republicans remind me of the kid on the school group project who refuses to work with the group and then when the presentation is due they say \"Well that was a shit show, I could have done way better just by myself.\"",
">\n\nHope the White House provided them with a coloring book and crayons.",
">\n\nIt'll be as detailed as Trump's healthcare plan",
">\n\nEvery step of the way has been glaring missteps on the part of republicans.",
">\n\nLol, no that actual would require them to do something, and they only love doing nothing or taking people rights…… if it doesn’t involve those two, forget it.",
">\n\nWhat's stopping the Republicans from just giving a deliberately BS budget? They're just going to lie to Biden lmao",
">\n\nWhat's stopping them is public attention. They can lie if they want, but the current administration is telling Republicans that whatever they say will be in public discussion.",
">\n\nWhen has that actually worked? \nI really, really really hate the mindset on this subreddit that you can shame the GOP into behaving themselves.\nThe Republicans OPENLY VIOLATE FEDERAL LAW ON A REGULAR BASIS WITH NO CONSEQUENCES. Who is holding them accountable? I'm getting sick and tired of this.",
">\n\n\nWhen has that actually worked? \n\nIt's never done. How often do you hear the actual conversations they have, and the plans they make? \n\nmindset on this subreddit that you can shame the GOP into behaving themselves.\n\nI'm not the subreddit, and I don't believe that at all. I treat them as they are, the end. I don't have to shame them, just like I don't have to accept their bullshit.\nI hold them accountable when I deal with them. Can't speak for everyone else though.",
">\n\nUntil I see the federal authorities mass arrest the entire GOP and declare the Republican Party a terrorist organization, they're not doing nearly enough",
">\n\n\nUntil I see the federal authorities mass arrest the entire GOP and declare the Republican Party a terrorist organization, they're not doing nearly enough\n\nI'm not going anywhere near that far. I'm just a person and I'm going to do what I can on the matter.",
">\n\nI'm not asking you, God damn lmao. Where in my comment did I explicitly ask you to personally arrest the entire GOP? I'm saying what I want to happen.\nYou're being really pearl-clutchy and overly finicky for no reason. I'm not trying to interrogate or grill you.",
">\n\n\nI'm not asking you, God damn lmao. Where in my comment did I explicitly ask you to personally arrest the entire GOP? I'm saying what I want to happen.\nYou're being really pearl-clutchy and overly finicky for no reason. I'm not trying to interrogate or grill you.\n\nGood for you.",
">\n\nSo what happened to no negotiations?",
">\n\nThere should be a negotiation on the federal budget. The house is directly responsible for creating the spending bill. It's one of their primary jobs. \nI think the \"no negotiations\" was around deciding not to pay outstanding debts. There's no reason for Biden to negotiate on that because the House already passed the bills authorizing the spending.\nI think it is probably valuable to force Republicans to do a minimum amount of work if they don't want to pay the bills, even if he doesn't expect to agree to compromises around not paying the budget based on it. I personally doubt they have thought any of it through in detail. Why would they? The last Tax Cuts and Jobs Act was riddled with errors and was written in the margins at 3am... and that was their more reasonable Senate reps."
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I truly don't think they are. 23% of voters in his district want Santos to stay and be allowed to represent them when everything that came before was a lie.
How on earth do you think that the average voter has any intelligence when 23% of a district thinks a scam artist should stay. | [
"It blows my mind Republicans have been campaigning on cutting Social Security, and Medicare and junk that Boomers are now preparing to get or are already getting, and Boomers still support them completely.",
">\n\nI always assumed any cuts would be geared at future benefits for people that are only just starting to pay in.\nAnd one might think, \"well why would people want to deny others of a benefit that they enjoy themselves\", but we already know the answer.",
">\n\nI know I'm in the minority as an elder millennial, I've been working for the past 25 years with no vacations and smart investments so I am more or less financially set.\nBut if social security is cut for my generation I will quit my job on the spot. I'm not going to pay in one more dime. Fuck these boomers who want to destroy the future to enrich themselves.",
">\n\nThat fact that you mentioned no vacations to be financially sound scares me. Don’t do that… there is zero guarantee you’ll make it to retirement age in shape to enjoy it. Enjoy life now",
">\n\nGenX here that followed the same strategy. My health is fucked. \nOn the bright side, I've probably saved enough for retirement because I'm going to die at my desk before I'm 60.",
">\n\nNot too late to change and start enjoying things now. Ive probably fucked myself over on retirement and that sucks but my body is failing hard and fast and I’m not even old age. I’m so glad I did a lot in my 20s and 30s because I am scared I’ll not make it to 50, let alone 60",
">\n\nNo friends and no interests. And most of my money is in long-term retirement. \nPlus, my medical bills would wipe me out if I quit my job.",
">\n\nAs someone else with no friends or interests I feel this\nExcept I have no investments.",
">\n\n“We’ve already begun work on a comprehensive budget, titled, ‘We hate Democrats Just Because.’ You’ll have it in two weeks.”",
">\n\n\"2 minutes, Turkish\"",
">\n\nIt was 2 minutes 5 minutes ago",
">\n\n\nA Republican budget proposal, the advisers said, should specify whether Republicans would pursue savings through cuts to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, health insurance subsidies, research or public safety spending.\n\nIn other words, you can’t just yell “stop the woke budget!” You have to point out exactly what money is allocated to those causes and then justify why.\nWe all know they won’t do this because they have nothing to point to. So they’ll decry “woke budget!” until the summer and then they will fuck over the country for cheap culture war points.",
">\n\nIt’s absolutely ridiculous. For the past decade at least, Republicans only goal has been to destroy faith in our institutions so they can point out how broken it is and how we need to vote them in to fix it. They are 100% willing to let the government default so they can point to it and say it’s all democrats fault. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. Their constituents religiously watch a single “news” source that tells them exactly what to believe.",
">\n\nWhile ironically calling everyone else around them sheep. Sighhh",
">\n\n“We will block the government from paying debts until you cut spending 😈 What do you think of that Sleepy Joe?”\n“What spending are you going to cut?”\n“Medicare and social securi- uh- I mean no, NO WE WON’T DO THAT! We’ll cut uh… uh… educa- no… uh… the military budg- ahhh our lobbyists need that… we’re gonna cut… something WOKE!”\n“Okay send me a budget.”\n“agggghhhh FUCK YOU JOE!! FUCK YOU!”\nLoving this new GOP that is both toothless and dumb.",
">\n\nThey’re dumb but they aren’t toothless. They can still crater the economy or force this into the (corrupt and right wing) courts and come out with a win.",
">\n\nThere is no world where the debt ceiling doesn’t get raised. It will be raised. The GOP just wants to embarass themselves a bit beforehand it seems",
">\n\nYou’re going to be wrong. They’re that stupid",
">\n\nIn order for the debt ceiling to not be raised, and the US to default on its loans, the Republicans will need almost all their congresspeople to remain opposed to raising it. Even as it causes a recession and blows up all their stock portfolios. \nThe debt ceiling will be raised. But it doesn’t need to be for 6 months. The treasury says it can take extraordinary measures to\nmove money around and pay off debts until June. So the Republicans might just keep refusing to raise the debt ceiling and make a show out of it for a few months.",
">\n\nThat would dominate the news cycles. Yawn.",
">\n\nIt will be produced right after their very beautiful health care plan.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for infrastructure week",
">\n\nInfrastructure week is done. By democrats of course.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"Set Obfuscate Shield to maximum deflection power!\"",
">\n\nLet’s be real, the Republican budget is a picture of Biden they drew a penis on with a Sharpie.",
">\n\nBut they drew it exaggeratedly large so they can see the joke. And now they unironically call him Big Dick Biden because they think he's acting like a huge dick.",
">\n\nTraceable accountability is garlic to the GOP vampire.",
">\n\nDems: \"Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"No!\"\nDems: \"Kevin, be serious here . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"I doan wanna!\nDems: \"C'mon now, Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"You can't make me!!! Just give me what my handlers want or I'm gonna turn on the space lasers!!!\"\n\"Pew! Pew! Pew!\" the Speaker added.",
">\n\nGOP: We want cut waste, fraud and abuse. \nPrez: okay, show us specifics on what you think should be cut.\nGOP: Waste, Fraud and Abuse!\nThey don’t want provide specific answers, because those will be unpopular. Biden asking for specifics, so he can hammer them on those specifics.",
">\n\nExactly and McCarthy is in an impossible position since he had to agree to a rules change in the House that would let a single member launch a challenge to his speakership. Hence his answer on Twitter which you nicely parroted. “Mr. President,” he wrote, “I received your staff’s memo. I’m not interested in political games. I’m coming to negotiate for the American people.”",
">\n\nGoing into a negotiation with a plan? Does uncle Joe even know republicans?",
">\n\nPresident Joe knows that there isn't a single Republican in Congress who can even fake a detailed budget thing in Word/PDF",
">\n\nThey're going to copy and paste last year's budget, and just reduce everything they don't like.",
">\n\nThen they need to say in detail everything they don't like and by how much they would like to reduce it.",
">\n\nHmm... a detailed budget you say?\n|Budget 2024|Amount|\n:--|:--|\n|Wokeness|$0|\n|Awesomeness|$ALL|\nWhy yes, I'd love a prestigious committee assignment. I'm thinking... chair of Ways and Means? Thanks, Kev!!",
">\n\nChatGOP. I’m calling it now.",
">\n\nIf we could actually just go ahead and replace the entire Republican Party with ChatGPT actually, that would be a step up. At least the AI does it’s job. The GOP is the real do-nothing party.",
">\n\nHe wants them to put in writing all the deeply unpopular demands they are making so no one can deny it later on.",
">\n\n“Curses! Foiled Again!” - Kevin McCarthy",
">\n\nGod. McCarthy is so bad at this.",
">\n\nGood move. He knows how difficult it will be for them to produce one, and even if they are capable of spitting something out, it will likely be unpopular and it will have further stressed their internal divisions.",
">\n\nSummary:\nWe need to cut spending on welfare, infrastructure, and local projects in your area, and futher increase handouts to the 1% and corporations and fatten up the military to prepare for more immoral wars like the Iraq War we blatantly lied our way into. \n-Signed The GOP.",
">\n\nYou are dead on. Now it's all about how they shove this pill down their voter's throats without them getting upset.",
">\n\nIt's hilarious that you have to remind the Republicans to make sure they bring an agenda to the meeting for the things they want.",
">\n\nLooks like the Republicans may have caught another car.",
">\n\nYou mean with like numbers and stuff??? That's a tall order from this bunch of dropouts.",
">\n\n\nFor Debt Ceiling Negotiation\n\nExcuse me?",
">\n\nBut that involves actual work, instead of just shit-talking the Dems.",
">\n\nGuessing the Republicans will produce nothing or something that is completely ridiculous. Republicans remind me of the kid on the school group project who refuses to work with the group and then when the presentation is due they say \"Well that was a shit show, I could have done way better just by myself.\"",
">\n\nHope the White House provided them with a coloring book and crayons.",
">\n\nIt'll be as detailed as Trump's healthcare plan",
">\n\nEvery step of the way has been glaring missteps on the part of republicans.",
">\n\nLol, no that actual would require them to do something, and they only love doing nothing or taking people rights…… if it doesn’t involve those two, forget it.",
">\n\nWhat's stopping the Republicans from just giving a deliberately BS budget? They're just going to lie to Biden lmao",
">\n\nWhat's stopping them is public attention. They can lie if they want, but the current administration is telling Republicans that whatever they say will be in public discussion.",
">\n\nWhen has that actually worked? \nI really, really really hate the mindset on this subreddit that you can shame the GOP into behaving themselves.\nThe Republicans OPENLY VIOLATE FEDERAL LAW ON A REGULAR BASIS WITH NO CONSEQUENCES. Who is holding them accountable? I'm getting sick and tired of this.",
">\n\n\nWhen has that actually worked? \n\nIt's never done. How often do you hear the actual conversations they have, and the plans they make? \n\nmindset on this subreddit that you can shame the GOP into behaving themselves.\n\nI'm not the subreddit, and I don't believe that at all. I treat them as they are, the end. I don't have to shame them, just like I don't have to accept their bullshit.\nI hold them accountable when I deal with them. Can't speak for everyone else though.",
">\n\nUntil I see the federal authorities mass arrest the entire GOP and declare the Republican Party a terrorist organization, they're not doing nearly enough",
">\n\n\nUntil I see the federal authorities mass arrest the entire GOP and declare the Republican Party a terrorist organization, they're not doing nearly enough\n\nI'm not going anywhere near that far. I'm just a person and I'm going to do what I can on the matter.",
">\n\nI'm not asking you, God damn lmao. Where in my comment did I explicitly ask you to personally arrest the entire GOP? I'm saying what I want to happen.\nYou're being really pearl-clutchy and overly finicky for no reason. I'm not trying to interrogate or grill you.",
">\n\n\nI'm not asking you, God damn lmao. Where in my comment did I explicitly ask you to personally arrest the entire GOP? I'm saying what I want to happen.\nYou're being really pearl-clutchy and overly finicky for no reason. I'm not trying to interrogate or grill you.\n\nGood for you.",
">\n\nSo what happened to no negotiations?",
">\n\nThere should be a negotiation on the federal budget. The house is directly responsible for creating the spending bill. It's one of their primary jobs. \nI think the \"no negotiations\" was around deciding not to pay outstanding debts. There's no reason for Biden to negotiate on that because the House already passed the bills authorizing the spending.\nI think it is probably valuable to force Republicans to do a minimum amount of work if they don't want to pay the bills, even if he doesn't expect to agree to compromises around not paying the budget based on it. I personally doubt they have thought any of it through in detail. Why would they? The last Tax Cuts and Jobs Act was riddled with errors and was written in the margins at 3am... and that was their more reasonable Senate reps.",
">\n\nWhy do Democratic continue to use the language if a budget negotiation? This is not a budget negotiation! Yes, Dems need to force the GOP to declare what it is they are actually proposing to cut but Democrats need to educate the public about the process of the debt ceiling and not allow the GOP to conflate budget negotiations with paying for debts already incurred. Voters are smart enough to understand the difference"
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Well to me that means a majority of the people in Santos’s district don’t want him to stay and they do understand why he should go, even in a district that voted for him in the first place. The GOP is hopeless at this point so even those that do understand, don’t care but the last election proved that there are more people in the country that do care about the welfare of the country than those that don’t. The GOP knows that’s true. That’s why they work so hard to lie and cheat and deprive voters of the right to vote. So I have hope that if the Dems can get the truth out and show the contrast, Americans will do the right thing | [
"It blows my mind Republicans have been campaigning on cutting Social Security, and Medicare and junk that Boomers are now preparing to get or are already getting, and Boomers still support them completely.",
">\n\nI always assumed any cuts would be geared at future benefits for people that are only just starting to pay in.\nAnd one might think, \"well why would people want to deny others of a benefit that they enjoy themselves\", but we already know the answer.",
">\n\nI know I'm in the minority as an elder millennial, I've been working for the past 25 years with no vacations and smart investments so I am more or less financially set.\nBut if social security is cut for my generation I will quit my job on the spot. I'm not going to pay in one more dime. Fuck these boomers who want to destroy the future to enrich themselves.",
">\n\nThat fact that you mentioned no vacations to be financially sound scares me. Don’t do that… there is zero guarantee you’ll make it to retirement age in shape to enjoy it. Enjoy life now",
">\n\nGenX here that followed the same strategy. My health is fucked. \nOn the bright side, I've probably saved enough for retirement because I'm going to die at my desk before I'm 60.",
">\n\nNot too late to change and start enjoying things now. Ive probably fucked myself over on retirement and that sucks but my body is failing hard and fast and I’m not even old age. I’m so glad I did a lot in my 20s and 30s because I am scared I’ll not make it to 50, let alone 60",
">\n\nNo friends and no interests. And most of my money is in long-term retirement. \nPlus, my medical bills would wipe me out if I quit my job.",
">\n\nAs someone else with no friends or interests I feel this\nExcept I have no investments.",
">\n\n“We’ve already begun work on a comprehensive budget, titled, ‘We hate Democrats Just Because.’ You’ll have it in two weeks.”",
">\n\n\"2 minutes, Turkish\"",
">\n\nIt was 2 minutes 5 minutes ago",
">\n\n\nA Republican budget proposal, the advisers said, should specify whether Republicans would pursue savings through cuts to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, health insurance subsidies, research or public safety spending.\n\nIn other words, you can’t just yell “stop the woke budget!” You have to point out exactly what money is allocated to those causes and then justify why.\nWe all know they won’t do this because they have nothing to point to. So they’ll decry “woke budget!” until the summer and then they will fuck over the country for cheap culture war points.",
">\n\nIt’s absolutely ridiculous. For the past decade at least, Republicans only goal has been to destroy faith in our institutions so they can point out how broken it is and how we need to vote them in to fix it. They are 100% willing to let the government default so they can point to it and say it’s all democrats fault. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. Their constituents religiously watch a single “news” source that tells them exactly what to believe.",
">\n\nWhile ironically calling everyone else around them sheep. Sighhh",
">\n\n“We will block the government from paying debts until you cut spending 😈 What do you think of that Sleepy Joe?”\n“What spending are you going to cut?”\n“Medicare and social securi- uh- I mean no, NO WE WON’T DO THAT! We’ll cut uh… uh… educa- no… uh… the military budg- ahhh our lobbyists need that… we’re gonna cut… something WOKE!”\n“Okay send me a budget.”\n“agggghhhh FUCK YOU JOE!! FUCK YOU!”\nLoving this new GOP that is both toothless and dumb.",
">\n\nThey’re dumb but they aren’t toothless. They can still crater the economy or force this into the (corrupt and right wing) courts and come out with a win.",
">\n\nThere is no world where the debt ceiling doesn’t get raised. It will be raised. The GOP just wants to embarass themselves a bit beforehand it seems",
">\n\nYou’re going to be wrong. They’re that stupid",
">\n\nIn order for the debt ceiling to not be raised, and the US to default on its loans, the Republicans will need almost all their congresspeople to remain opposed to raising it. Even as it causes a recession and blows up all their stock portfolios. \nThe debt ceiling will be raised. But it doesn’t need to be for 6 months. The treasury says it can take extraordinary measures to\nmove money around and pay off debts until June. So the Republicans might just keep refusing to raise the debt ceiling and make a show out of it for a few months.",
">\n\nThat would dominate the news cycles. Yawn.",
">\n\nIt will be produced right after their very beautiful health care plan.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for infrastructure week",
">\n\nInfrastructure week is done. By democrats of course.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"Set Obfuscate Shield to maximum deflection power!\"",
">\n\nLet’s be real, the Republican budget is a picture of Biden they drew a penis on with a Sharpie.",
">\n\nBut they drew it exaggeratedly large so they can see the joke. And now they unironically call him Big Dick Biden because they think he's acting like a huge dick.",
">\n\nTraceable accountability is garlic to the GOP vampire.",
">\n\nDems: \"Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"No!\"\nDems: \"Kevin, be serious here . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"I doan wanna!\nDems: \"C'mon now, Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"You can't make me!!! Just give me what my handlers want or I'm gonna turn on the space lasers!!!\"\n\"Pew! Pew! Pew!\" the Speaker added.",
">\n\nGOP: We want cut waste, fraud and abuse. \nPrez: okay, show us specifics on what you think should be cut.\nGOP: Waste, Fraud and Abuse!\nThey don’t want provide specific answers, because those will be unpopular. Biden asking for specifics, so he can hammer them on those specifics.",
">\n\nExactly and McCarthy is in an impossible position since he had to agree to a rules change in the House that would let a single member launch a challenge to his speakership. Hence his answer on Twitter which you nicely parroted. “Mr. President,” he wrote, “I received your staff’s memo. I’m not interested in political games. I’m coming to negotiate for the American people.”",
">\n\nGoing into a negotiation with a plan? Does uncle Joe even know republicans?",
">\n\nPresident Joe knows that there isn't a single Republican in Congress who can even fake a detailed budget thing in Word/PDF",
">\n\nThey're going to copy and paste last year's budget, and just reduce everything they don't like.",
">\n\nThen they need to say in detail everything they don't like and by how much they would like to reduce it.",
">\n\nHmm... a detailed budget you say?\n|Budget 2024|Amount|\n:--|:--|\n|Wokeness|$0|\n|Awesomeness|$ALL|\nWhy yes, I'd love a prestigious committee assignment. I'm thinking... chair of Ways and Means? Thanks, Kev!!",
">\n\nChatGOP. I’m calling it now.",
">\n\nIf we could actually just go ahead and replace the entire Republican Party with ChatGPT actually, that would be a step up. At least the AI does it’s job. The GOP is the real do-nothing party.",
">\n\nHe wants them to put in writing all the deeply unpopular demands they are making so no one can deny it later on.",
">\n\n“Curses! Foiled Again!” - Kevin McCarthy",
">\n\nGod. McCarthy is so bad at this.",
">\n\nGood move. He knows how difficult it will be for them to produce one, and even if they are capable of spitting something out, it will likely be unpopular and it will have further stressed their internal divisions.",
">\n\nSummary:\nWe need to cut spending on welfare, infrastructure, and local projects in your area, and futher increase handouts to the 1% and corporations and fatten up the military to prepare for more immoral wars like the Iraq War we blatantly lied our way into. \n-Signed The GOP.",
">\n\nYou are dead on. Now it's all about how they shove this pill down their voter's throats without them getting upset.",
">\n\nIt's hilarious that you have to remind the Republicans to make sure they bring an agenda to the meeting for the things they want.",
">\n\nLooks like the Republicans may have caught another car.",
">\n\nYou mean with like numbers and stuff??? That's a tall order from this bunch of dropouts.",
">\n\n\nFor Debt Ceiling Negotiation\n\nExcuse me?",
">\n\nBut that involves actual work, instead of just shit-talking the Dems.",
">\n\nGuessing the Republicans will produce nothing or something that is completely ridiculous. Republicans remind me of the kid on the school group project who refuses to work with the group and then when the presentation is due they say \"Well that was a shit show, I could have done way better just by myself.\"",
">\n\nHope the White House provided them with a coloring book and crayons.",
">\n\nIt'll be as detailed as Trump's healthcare plan",
">\n\nEvery step of the way has been glaring missteps on the part of republicans.",
">\n\nLol, no that actual would require them to do something, and they only love doing nothing or taking people rights…… if it doesn’t involve those two, forget it.",
">\n\nWhat's stopping the Republicans from just giving a deliberately BS budget? They're just going to lie to Biden lmao",
">\n\nWhat's stopping them is public attention. They can lie if they want, but the current administration is telling Republicans that whatever they say will be in public discussion.",
">\n\nWhen has that actually worked? \nI really, really really hate the mindset on this subreddit that you can shame the GOP into behaving themselves.\nThe Republicans OPENLY VIOLATE FEDERAL LAW ON A REGULAR BASIS WITH NO CONSEQUENCES. Who is holding them accountable? I'm getting sick and tired of this.",
">\n\n\nWhen has that actually worked? \n\nIt's never done. How often do you hear the actual conversations they have, and the plans they make? \n\nmindset on this subreddit that you can shame the GOP into behaving themselves.\n\nI'm not the subreddit, and I don't believe that at all. I treat them as they are, the end. I don't have to shame them, just like I don't have to accept their bullshit.\nI hold them accountable when I deal with them. Can't speak for everyone else though.",
">\n\nUntil I see the federal authorities mass arrest the entire GOP and declare the Republican Party a terrorist organization, they're not doing nearly enough",
">\n\n\nUntil I see the federal authorities mass arrest the entire GOP and declare the Republican Party a terrorist organization, they're not doing nearly enough\n\nI'm not going anywhere near that far. I'm just a person and I'm going to do what I can on the matter.",
">\n\nI'm not asking you, God damn lmao. Where in my comment did I explicitly ask you to personally arrest the entire GOP? I'm saying what I want to happen.\nYou're being really pearl-clutchy and overly finicky for no reason. I'm not trying to interrogate or grill you.",
">\n\n\nI'm not asking you, God damn lmao. Where in my comment did I explicitly ask you to personally arrest the entire GOP? I'm saying what I want to happen.\nYou're being really pearl-clutchy and overly finicky for no reason. I'm not trying to interrogate or grill you.\n\nGood for you.",
">\n\nSo what happened to no negotiations?",
">\n\nThere should be a negotiation on the federal budget. The house is directly responsible for creating the spending bill. It's one of their primary jobs. \nI think the \"no negotiations\" was around deciding not to pay outstanding debts. There's no reason for Biden to negotiate on that because the House already passed the bills authorizing the spending.\nI think it is probably valuable to force Republicans to do a minimum amount of work if they don't want to pay the bills, even if he doesn't expect to agree to compromises around not paying the budget based on it. I personally doubt they have thought any of it through in detail. Why would they? The last Tax Cuts and Jobs Act was riddled with errors and was written in the margins at 3am... and that was their more reasonable Senate reps.",
">\n\nWhy do Democratic continue to use the language if a budget negotiation? This is not a budget negotiation! Yes, Dems need to force the GOP to declare what it is they are actually proposing to cut but Democrats need to educate the public about the process of the debt ceiling and not allow the GOP to conflate budget negotiations with paying for debts already incurred. Voters are smart enough to understand the difference",
">\n\nI truly don't think they are. 23% of voters in his district want Santos to stay and be allowed to represent them when everything that came before was a lie.\nHow on earth do you think that the average voter has any intelligence when 23% of a district thinks a scam artist should stay."
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Wrong answer Dema rats in charge there job | [
"It blows my mind Republicans have been campaigning on cutting Social Security, and Medicare and junk that Boomers are now preparing to get or are already getting, and Boomers still support them completely.",
">\n\nI always assumed any cuts would be geared at future benefits for people that are only just starting to pay in.\nAnd one might think, \"well why would people want to deny others of a benefit that they enjoy themselves\", but we already know the answer.",
">\n\nI know I'm in the minority as an elder millennial, I've been working for the past 25 years with no vacations and smart investments so I am more or less financially set.\nBut if social security is cut for my generation I will quit my job on the spot. I'm not going to pay in one more dime. Fuck these boomers who want to destroy the future to enrich themselves.",
">\n\nThat fact that you mentioned no vacations to be financially sound scares me. Don’t do that… there is zero guarantee you’ll make it to retirement age in shape to enjoy it. Enjoy life now",
">\n\nGenX here that followed the same strategy. My health is fucked. \nOn the bright side, I've probably saved enough for retirement because I'm going to die at my desk before I'm 60.",
">\n\nNot too late to change and start enjoying things now. Ive probably fucked myself over on retirement and that sucks but my body is failing hard and fast and I’m not even old age. I’m so glad I did a lot in my 20s and 30s because I am scared I’ll not make it to 50, let alone 60",
">\n\nNo friends and no interests. And most of my money is in long-term retirement. \nPlus, my medical bills would wipe me out if I quit my job.",
">\n\nAs someone else with no friends or interests I feel this\nExcept I have no investments.",
">\n\n“We’ve already begun work on a comprehensive budget, titled, ‘We hate Democrats Just Because.’ You’ll have it in two weeks.”",
">\n\n\"2 minutes, Turkish\"",
">\n\nIt was 2 minutes 5 minutes ago",
">\n\n\nA Republican budget proposal, the advisers said, should specify whether Republicans would pursue savings through cuts to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, health insurance subsidies, research or public safety spending.\n\nIn other words, you can’t just yell “stop the woke budget!” You have to point out exactly what money is allocated to those causes and then justify why.\nWe all know they won’t do this because they have nothing to point to. So they’ll decry “woke budget!” until the summer and then they will fuck over the country for cheap culture war points.",
">\n\nIt’s absolutely ridiculous. For the past decade at least, Republicans only goal has been to destroy faith in our institutions so they can point out how broken it is and how we need to vote them in to fix it. They are 100% willing to let the government default so they can point to it and say it’s all democrats fault. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. Their constituents religiously watch a single “news” source that tells them exactly what to believe.",
">\n\nWhile ironically calling everyone else around them sheep. Sighhh",
">\n\n“We will block the government from paying debts until you cut spending 😈 What do you think of that Sleepy Joe?”\n“What spending are you going to cut?”\n“Medicare and social securi- uh- I mean no, NO WE WON’T DO THAT! We’ll cut uh… uh… educa- no… uh… the military budg- ahhh our lobbyists need that… we’re gonna cut… something WOKE!”\n“Okay send me a budget.”\n“agggghhhh FUCK YOU JOE!! FUCK YOU!”\nLoving this new GOP that is both toothless and dumb.",
">\n\nThey’re dumb but they aren’t toothless. They can still crater the economy or force this into the (corrupt and right wing) courts and come out with a win.",
">\n\nThere is no world where the debt ceiling doesn’t get raised. It will be raised. The GOP just wants to embarass themselves a bit beforehand it seems",
">\n\nYou’re going to be wrong. They’re that stupid",
">\n\nIn order for the debt ceiling to not be raised, and the US to default on its loans, the Republicans will need almost all their congresspeople to remain opposed to raising it. Even as it causes a recession and blows up all their stock portfolios. \nThe debt ceiling will be raised. But it doesn’t need to be for 6 months. The treasury says it can take extraordinary measures to\nmove money around and pay off debts until June. So the Republicans might just keep refusing to raise the debt ceiling and make a show out of it for a few months.",
">\n\nThat would dominate the news cycles. Yawn.",
">\n\nIt will be produced right after their very beautiful health care plan.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for infrastructure week",
">\n\nInfrastructure week is done. By democrats of course.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"Set Obfuscate Shield to maximum deflection power!\"",
">\n\nLet’s be real, the Republican budget is a picture of Biden they drew a penis on with a Sharpie.",
">\n\nBut they drew it exaggeratedly large so they can see the joke. And now they unironically call him Big Dick Biden because they think he's acting like a huge dick.",
">\n\nTraceable accountability is garlic to the GOP vampire.",
">\n\nDems: \"Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"No!\"\nDems: \"Kevin, be serious here . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"I doan wanna!\nDems: \"C'mon now, Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"You can't make me!!! Just give me what my handlers want or I'm gonna turn on the space lasers!!!\"\n\"Pew! Pew! Pew!\" the Speaker added.",
">\n\nGOP: We want cut waste, fraud and abuse. \nPrez: okay, show us specifics on what you think should be cut.\nGOP: Waste, Fraud and Abuse!\nThey don’t want provide specific answers, because those will be unpopular. Biden asking for specifics, so he can hammer them on those specifics.",
">\n\nExactly and McCarthy is in an impossible position since he had to agree to a rules change in the House that would let a single member launch a challenge to his speakership. Hence his answer on Twitter which you nicely parroted. “Mr. President,” he wrote, “I received your staff’s memo. I’m not interested in political games. I’m coming to negotiate for the American people.”",
">\n\nGoing into a negotiation with a plan? Does uncle Joe even know republicans?",
">\n\nPresident Joe knows that there isn't a single Republican in Congress who can even fake a detailed budget thing in Word/PDF",
">\n\nThey're going to copy and paste last year's budget, and just reduce everything they don't like.",
">\n\nThen they need to say in detail everything they don't like and by how much they would like to reduce it.",
">\n\nHmm... a detailed budget you say?\n|Budget 2024|Amount|\n:--|:--|\n|Wokeness|$0|\n|Awesomeness|$ALL|\nWhy yes, I'd love a prestigious committee assignment. I'm thinking... chair of Ways and Means? Thanks, Kev!!",
">\n\nChatGOP. I’m calling it now.",
">\n\nIf we could actually just go ahead and replace the entire Republican Party with ChatGPT actually, that would be a step up. At least the AI does it’s job. The GOP is the real do-nothing party.",
">\n\nHe wants them to put in writing all the deeply unpopular demands they are making so no one can deny it later on.",
">\n\n“Curses! Foiled Again!” - Kevin McCarthy",
">\n\nGod. McCarthy is so bad at this.",
">\n\nGood move. He knows how difficult it will be for them to produce one, and even if they are capable of spitting something out, it will likely be unpopular and it will have further stressed their internal divisions.",
">\n\nSummary:\nWe need to cut spending on welfare, infrastructure, and local projects in your area, and futher increase handouts to the 1% and corporations and fatten up the military to prepare for more immoral wars like the Iraq War we blatantly lied our way into. \n-Signed The GOP.",
">\n\nYou are dead on. Now it's all about how they shove this pill down their voter's throats without them getting upset.",
">\n\nIt's hilarious that you have to remind the Republicans to make sure they bring an agenda to the meeting for the things they want.",
">\n\nLooks like the Republicans may have caught another car.",
">\n\nYou mean with like numbers and stuff??? That's a tall order from this bunch of dropouts.",
">\n\n\nFor Debt Ceiling Negotiation\n\nExcuse me?",
">\n\nBut that involves actual work, instead of just shit-talking the Dems.",
">\n\nGuessing the Republicans will produce nothing or something that is completely ridiculous. Republicans remind me of the kid on the school group project who refuses to work with the group and then when the presentation is due they say \"Well that was a shit show, I could have done way better just by myself.\"",
">\n\nHope the White House provided them with a coloring book and crayons.",
">\n\nIt'll be as detailed as Trump's healthcare plan",
">\n\nEvery step of the way has been glaring missteps on the part of republicans.",
">\n\nLol, no that actual would require them to do something, and they only love doing nothing or taking people rights…… if it doesn’t involve those two, forget it.",
">\n\nWhat's stopping the Republicans from just giving a deliberately BS budget? They're just going to lie to Biden lmao",
">\n\nWhat's stopping them is public attention. They can lie if they want, but the current administration is telling Republicans that whatever they say will be in public discussion.",
">\n\nWhen has that actually worked? \nI really, really really hate the mindset on this subreddit that you can shame the GOP into behaving themselves.\nThe Republicans OPENLY VIOLATE FEDERAL LAW ON A REGULAR BASIS WITH NO CONSEQUENCES. Who is holding them accountable? I'm getting sick and tired of this.",
">\n\n\nWhen has that actually worked? \n\nIt's never done. How often do you hear the actual conversations they have, and the plans they make? \n\nmindset on this subreddit that you can shame the GOP into behaving themselves.\n\nI'm not the subreddit, and I don't believe that at all. I treat them as they are, the end. I don't have to shame them, just like I don't have to accept their bullshit.\nI hold them accountable when I deal with them. Can't speak for everyone else though.",
">\n\nUntil I see the federal authorities mass arrest the entire GOP and declare the Republican Party a terrorist organization, they're not doing nearly enough",
">\n\n\nUntil I see the federal authorities mass arrest the entire GOP and declare the Republican Party a terrorist organization, they're not doing nearly enough\n\nI'm not going anywhere near that far. I'm just a person and I'm going to do what I can on the matter.",
">\n\nI'm not asking you, God damn lmao. Where in my comment did I explicitly ask you to personally arrest the entire GOP? I'm saying what I want to happen.\nYou're being really pearl-clutchy and overly finicky for no reason. I'm not trying to interrogate or grill you.",
">\n\n\nI'm not asking you, God damn lmao. Where in my comment did I explicitly ask you to personally arrest the entire GOP? I'm saying what I want to happen.\nYou're being really pearl-clutchy and overly finicky for no reason. I'm not trying to interrogate or grill you.\n\nGood for you.",
">\n\nSo what happened to no negotiations?",
">\n\nThere should be a negotiation on the federal budget. The house is directly responsible for creating the spending bill. It's one of their primary jobs. \nI think the \"no negotiations\" was around deciding not to pay outstanding debts. There's no reason for Biden to negotiate on that because the House already passed the bills authorizing the spending.\nI think it is probably valuable to force Republicans to do a minimum amount of work if they don't want to pay the bills, even if he doesn't expect to agree to compromises around not paying the budget based on it. I personally doubt they have thought any of it through in detail. Why would they? The last Tax Cuts and Jobs Act was riddled with errors and was written in the margins at 3am... and that was their more reasonable Senate reps.",
">\n\nWhy do Democratic continue to use the language if a budget negotiation? This is not a budget negotiation! Yes, Dems need to force the GOP to declare what it is they are actually proposing to cut but Democrats need to educate the public about the process of the debt ceiling and not allow the GOP to conflate budget negotiations with paying for debts already incurred. Voters are smart enough to understand the difference",
">\n\nI truly don't think they are. 23% of voters in his district want Santos to stay and be allowed to represent them when everything that came before was a lie.\nHow on earth do you think that the average voter has any intelligence when 23% of a district thinks a scam artist should stay.",
">\n\nWell to me that means a majority of the people in Santos’s district don’t want him to stay and they do understand why he should go, even in a district that voted for him in the first place. The GOP is hopeless at this point so even those that do understand, don’t care but the last election proved that there are more people in the country that do care about the welfare of the country than those that don’t. The GOP knows that’s true. That’s why they work so hard to lie and cheat and deprive voters of the right to vote. So I have hope that if the Dems can get the truth out and show the contrast, Americans will do the right thing"
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"It blows my mind Republicans have been campaigning on cutting Social Security, and Medicare and junk that Boomers are now preparing to get or are already getting, and Boomers still support them completely.",
">\n\nI always assumed any cuts would be geared at future benefits for people that are only just starting to pay in.\nAnd one might think, \"well why would people want to deny others of a benefit that they enjoy themselves\", but we already know the answer.",
">\n\nI know I'm in the minority as an elder millennial, I've been working for the past 25 years with no vacations and smart investments so I am more or less financially set.\nBut if social security is cut for my generation I will quit my job on the spot. I'm not going to pay in one more dime. Fuck these boomers who want to destroy the future to enrich themselves.",
">\n\nThat fact that you mentioned no vacations to be financially sound scares me. Don’t do that… there is zero guarantee you’ll make it to retirement age in shape to enjoy it. Enjoy life now",
">\n\nGenX here that followed the same strategy. My health is fucked. \nOn the bright side, I've probably saved enough for retirement because I'm going to die at my desk before I'm 60.",
">\n\nNot too late to change and start enjoying things now. Ive probably fucked myself over on retirement and that sucks but my body is failing hard and fast and I’m not even old age. I’m so glad I did a lot in my 20s and 30s because I am scared I’ll not make it to 50, let alone 60",
">\n\nNo friends and no interests. And most of my money is in long-term retirement. \nPlus, my medical bills would wipe me out if I quit my job.",
">\n\nAs someone else with no friends or interests I feel this\nExcept I have no investments.",
">\n\n“We’ve already begun work on a comprehensive budget, titled, ‘We hate Democrats Just Because.’ You’ll have it in two weeks.”",
">\n\n\"2 minutes, Turkish\"",
">\n\nIt was 2 minutes 5 minutes ago",
">\n\n\nA Republican budget proposal, the advisers said, should specify whether Republicans would pursue savings through cuts to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, health insurance subsidies, research or public safety spending.\n\nIn other words, you can’t just yell “stop the woke budget!” You have to point out exactly what money is allocated to those causes and then justify why.\nWe all know they won’t do this because they have nothing to point to. So they’ll decry “woke budget!” until the summer and then they will fuck over the country for cheap culture war points.",
">\n\nIt’s absolutely ridiculous. For the past decade at least, Republicans only goal has been to destroy faith in our institutions so they can point out how broken it is and how we need to vote them in to fix it. They are 100% willing to let the government default so they can point to it and say it’s all democrats fault. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. Their constituents religiously watch a single “news” source that tells them exactly what to believe.",
">\n\nWhile ironically calling everyone else around them sheep. Sighhh",
">\n\n“We will block the government from paying debts until you cut spending 😈 What do you think of that Sleepy Joe?”\n“What spending are you going to cut?”\n“Medicare and social securi- uh- I mean no, NO WE WON’T DO THAT! We’ll cut uh… uh… educa- no… uh… the military budg- ahhh our lobbyists need that… we’re gonna cut… something WOKE!”\n“Okay send me a budget.”\n“agggghhhh FUCK YOU JOE!! FUCK YOU!”\nLoving this new GOP that is both toothless and dumb.",
">\n\nThey’re dumb but they aren’t toothless. They can still crater the economy or force this into the (corrupt and right wing) courts and come out with a win.",
">\n\nThere is no world where the debt ceiling doesn’t get raised. It will be raised. The GOP just wants to embarass themselves a bit beforehand it seems",
">\n\nYou’re going to be wrong. They’re that stupid",
">\n\nIn order for the debt ceiling to not be raised, and the US to default on its loans, the Republicans will need almost all their congresspeople to remain opposed to raising it. Even as it causes a recession and blows up all their stock portfolios. \nThe debt ceiling will be raised. But it doesn’t need to be for 6 months. The treasury says it can take extraordinary measures to\nmove money around and pay off debts until June. So the Republicans might just keep refusing to raise the debt ceiling and make a show out of it for a few months.",
">\n\nThat would dominate the news cycles. Yawn.",
">\n\nIt will be produced right after their very beautiful health care plan.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for infrastructure week",
">\n\nInfrastructure week is done. By democrats of course.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"Set Obfuscate Shield to maximum deflection power!\"",
">\n\nLet’s be real, the Republican budget is a picture of Biden they drew a penis on with a Sharpie.",
">\n\nBut they drew it exaggeratedly large so they can see the joke. And now they unironically call him Big Dick Biden because they think he's acting like a huge dick.",
">\n\nTraceable accountability is garlic to the GOP vampire.",
">\n\nDems: \"Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"No!\"\nDems: \"Kevin, be serious here . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"I doan wanna!\nDems: \"C'mon now, Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"You can't make me!!! Just give me what my handlers want or I'm gonna turn on the space lasers!!!\"\n\"Pew! Pew! Pew!\" the Speaker added.",
">\n\nGOP: We want cut waste, fraud and abuse. \nPrez: okay, show us specifics on what you think should be cut.\nGOP: Waste, Fraud and Abuse!\nThey don’t want provide specific answers, because those will be unpopular. Biden asking for specifics, so he can hammer them on those specifics.",
">\n\nExactly and McCarthy is in an impossible position since he had to agree to a rules change in the House that would let a single member launch a challenge to his speakership. Hence his answer on Twitter which you nicely parroted. “Mr. President,” he wrote, “I received your staff’s memo. I’m not interested in political games. I’m coming to negotiate for the American people.”",
">\n\nGoing into a negotiation with a plan? Does uncle Joe even know republicans?",
">\n\nPresident Joe knows that there isn't a single Republican in Congress who can even fake a detailed budget thing in Word/PDF",
">\n\nThey're going to copy and paste last year's budget, and just reduce everything they don't like.",
">\n\nThen they need to say in detail everything they don't like and by how much they would like to reduce it.",
">\n\nHmm... a detailed budget you say?\n|Budget 2024|Amount|\n:--|:--|\n|Wokeness|$0|\n|Awesomeness|$ALL|\nWhy yes, I'd love a prestigious committee assignment. I'm thinking... chair of Ways and Means? Thanks, Kev!!",
">\n\nChatGOP. I’m calling it now.",
">\n\nIf we could actually just go ahead and replace the entire Republican Party with ChatGPT actually, that would be a step up. At least the AI does it’s job. The GOP is the real do-nothing party.",
">\n\nHe wants them to put in writing all the deeply unpopular demands they are making so no one can deny it later on.",
">\n\n“Curses! Foiled Again!” - Kevin McCarthy",
">\n\nGod. McCarthy is so bad at this.",
">\n\nGood move. He knows how difficult it will be for them to produce one, and even if they are capable of spitting something out, it will likely be unpopular and it will have further stressed their internal divisions.",
">\n\nSummary:\nWe need to cut spending on welfare, infrastructure, and local projects in your area, and futher increase handouts to the 1% and corporations and fatten up the military to prepare for more immoral wars like the Iraq War we blatantly lied our way into. \n-Signed The GOP.",
">\n\nYou are dead on. Now it's all about how they shove this pill down their voter's throats without them getting upset.",
">\n\nIt's hilarious that you have to remind the Republicans to make sure they bring an agenda to the meeting for the things they want.",
">\n\nLooks like the Republicans may have caught another car.",
">\n\nYou mean with like numbers and stuff??? That's a tall order from this bunch of dropouts.",
">\n\n\nFor Debt Ceiling Negotiation\n\nExcuse me?",
">\n\nBut that involves actual work, instead of just shit-talking the Dems.",
">\n\nGuessing the Republicans will produce nothing or something that is completely ridiculous. Republicans remind me of the kid on the school group project who refuses to work with the group and then when the presentation is due they say \"Well that was a shit show, I could have done way better just by myself.\"",
">\n\nHope the White House provided them with a coloring book and crayons.",
">\n\nIt'll be as detailed as Trump's healthcare plan",
">\n\nEvery step of the way has been glaring missteps on the part of republicans.",
">\n\nLol, no that actual would require them to do something, and they only love doing nothing or taking people rights…… if it doesn’t involve those two, forget it.",
">\n\nWhat's stopping the Republicans from just giving a deliberately BS budget? They're just going to lie to Biden lmao",
">\n\nWhat's stopping them is public attention. They can lie if they want, but the current administration is telling Republicans that whatever they say will be in public discussion.",
">\n\nWhen has that actually worked? \nI really, really really hate the mindset on this subreddit that you can shame the GOP into behaving themselves.\nThe Republicans OPENLY VIOLATE FEDERAL LAW ON A REGULAR BASIS WITH NO CONSEQUENCES. Who is holding them accountable? I'm getting sick and tired of this.",
">\n\n\nWhen has that actually worked? \n\nIt's never done. How often do you hear the actual conversations they have, and the plans they make? \n\nmindset on this subreddit that you can shame the GOP into behaving themselves.\n\nI'm not the subreddit, and I don't believe that at all. I treat them as they are, the end. I don't have to shame them, just like I don't have to accept their bullshit.\nI hold them accountable when I deal with them. Can't speak for everyone else though.",
">\n\nUntil I see the federal authorities mass arrest the entire GOP and declare the Republican Party a terrorist organization, they're not doing nearly enough",
">\n\n\nUntil I see the federal authorities mass arrest the entire GOP and declare the Republican Party a terrorist organization, they're not doing nearly enough\n\nI'm not going anywhere near that far. I'm just a person and I'm going to do what I can on the matter.",
">\n\nI'm not asking you, God damn lmao. Where in my comment did I explicitly ask you to personally arrest the entire GOP? I'm saying what I want to happen.\nYou're being really pearl-clutchy and overly finicky for no reason. I'm not trying to interrogate or grill you.",
">\n\n\nI'm not asking you, God damn lmao. Where in my comment did I explicitly ask you to personally arrest the entire GOP? I'm saying what I want to happen.\nYou're being really pearl-clutchy and overly finicky for no reason. I'm not trying to interrogate or grill you.\n\nGood for you.",
">\n\nSo what happened to no negotiations?",
">\n\nThere should be a negotiation on the federal budget. The house is directly responsible for creating the spending bill. It's one of their primary jobs. \nI think the \"no negotiations\" was around deciding not to pay outstanding debts. There's no reason for Biden to negotiate on that because the House already passed the bills authorizing the spending.\nI think it is probably valuable to force Republicans to do a minimum amount of work if they don't want to pay the bills, even if he doesn't expect to agree to compromises around not paying the budget based on it. I personally doubt they have thought any of it through in detail. Why would they? The last Tax Cuts and Jobs Act was riddled with errors and was written in the margins at 3am... and that was their more reasonable Senate reps.",
">\n\nWhy do Democratic continue to use the language if a budget negotiation? This is not a budget negotiation! Yes, Dems need to force the GOP to declare what it is they are actually proposing to cut but Democrats need to educate the public about the process of the debt ceiling and not allow the GOP to conflate budget negotiations with paying for debts already incurred. Voters are smart enough to understand the difference",
">\n\nI truly don't think they are. 23% of voters in his district want Santos to stay and be allowed to represent them when everything that came before was a lie.\nHow on earth do you think that the average voter has any intelligence when 23% of a district thinks a scam artist should stay.",
">\n\nWell to me that means a majority of the people in Santos’s district don’t want him to stay and they do understand why he should go, even in a district that voted for him in the first place. The GOP is hopeless at this point so even those that do understand, don’t care but the last election proved that there are more people in the country that do care about the welfare of the country than those that don’t. The GOP knows that’s true. That’s why they work so hard to lie and cheat and deprive voters of the right to vote. So I have hope that if the Dems can get the truth out and show the contrast, Americans will do the right thing",
">\n\nWrong answer Dema rats in charge there job"
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The will find it just under the better Obama care plan and their plan for immigration reform. Back in some closet with the binder full of women. (and some secret stuff folders) | [
"It blows my mind Republicans have been campaigning on cutting Social Security, and Medicare and junk that Boomers are now preparing to get or are already getting, and Boomers still support them completely.",
">\n\nI always assumed any cuts would be geared at future benefits for people that are only just starting to pay in.\nAnd one might think, \"well why would people want to deny others of a benefit that they enjoy themselves\", but we already know the answer.",
">\n\nI know I'm in the minority as an elder millennial, I've been working for the past 25 years with no vacations and smart investments so I am more or less financially set.\nBut if social security is cut for my generation I will quit my job on the spot. I'm not going to pay in one more dime. Fuck these boomers who want to destroy the future to enrich themselves.",
">\n\nThat fact that you mentioned no vacations to be financially sound scares me. Don’t do that… there is zero guarantee you’ll make it to retirement age in shape to enjoy it. Enjoy life now",
">\n\nGenX here that followed the same strategy. My health is fucked. \nOn the bright side, I've probably saved enough for retirement because I'm going to die at my desk before I'm 60.",
">\n\nNot too late to change and start enjoying things now. Ive probably fucked myself over on retirement and that sucks but my body is failing hard and fast and I’m not even old age. I’m so glad I did a lot in my 20s and 30s because I am scared I’ll not make it to 50, let alone 60",
">\n\nNo friends and no interests. And most of my money is in long-term retirement. \nPlus, my medical bills would wipe me out if I quit my job.",
">\n\nAs someone else with no friends or interests I feel this\nExcept I have no investments.",
">\n\n“We’ve already begun work on a comprehensive budget, titled, ‘We hate Democrats Just Because.’ You’ll have it in two weeks.”",
">\n\n\"2 minutes, Turkish\"",
">\n\nIt was 2 minutes 5 minutes ago",
">\n\n\nA Republican budget proposal, the advisers said, should specify whether Republicans would pursue savings through cuts to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, health insurance subsidies, research or public safety spending.\n\nIn other words, you can’t just yell “stop the woke budget!” You have to point out exactly what money is allocated to those causes and then justify why.\nWe all know they won’t do this because they have nothing to point to. So they’ll decry “woke budget!” until the summer and then they will fuck over the country for cheap culture war points.",
">\n\nIt’s absolutely ridiculous. For the past decade at least, Republicans only goal has been to destroy faith in our institutions so they can point out how broken it is and how we need to vote them in to fix it. They are 100% willing to let the government default so they can point to it and say it’s all democrats fault. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. Their constituents religiously watch a single “news” source that tells them exactly what to believe.",
">\n\nWhile ironically calling everyone else around them sheep. Sighhh",
">\n\n“We will block the government from paying debts until you cut spending 😈 What do you think of that Sleepy Joe?”\n“What spending are you going to cut?”\n“Medicare and social securi- uh- I mean no, NO WE WON’T DO THAT! We’ll cut uh… uh… educa- no… uh… the military budg- ahhh our lobbyists need that… we’re gonna cut… something WOKE!”\n“Okay send me a budget.”\n“agggghhhh FUCK YOU JOE!! FUCK YOU!”\nLoving this new GOP that is both toothless and dumb.",
">\n\nThey’re dumb but they aren’t toothless. They can still crater the economy or force this into the (corrupt and right wing) courts and come out with a win.",
">\n\nThere is no world where the debt ceiling doesn’t get raised. It will be raised. The GOP just wants to embarass themselves a bit beforehand it seems",
">\n\nYou’re going to be wrong. They’re that stupid",
">\n\nIn order for the debt ceiling to not be raised, and the US to default on its loans, the Republicans will need almost all their congresspeople to remain opposed to raising it. Even as it causes a recession and blows up all their stock portfolios. \nThe debt ceiling will be raised. But it doesn’t need to be for 6 months. The treasury says it can take extraordinary measures to\nmove money around and pay off debts until June. So the Republicans might just keep refusing to raise the debt ceiling and make a show out of it for a few months.",
">\n\nThat would dominate the news cycles. Yawn.",
">\n\nIt will be produced right after their very beautiful health care plan.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for infrastructure week",
">\n\nInfrastructure week is done. By democrats of course.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"Set Obfuscate Shield to maximum deflection power!\"",
">\n\nLet’s be real, the Republican budget is a picture of Biden they drew a penis on with a Sharpie.",
">\n\nBut they drew it exaggeratedly large so they can see the joke. And now they unironically call him Big Dick Biden because they think he's acting like a huge dick.",
">\n\nTraceable accountability is garlic to the GOP vampire.",
">\n\nDems: \"Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"No!\"\nDems: \"Kevin, be serious here . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"I doan wanna!\nDems: \"C'mon now, Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"You can't make me!!! Just give me what my handlers want or I'm gonna turn on the space lasers!!!\"\n\"Pew! Pew! Pew!\" the Speaker added.",
">\n\nGOP: We want cut waste, fraud and abuse. \nPrez: okay, show us specifics on what you think should be cut.\nGOP: Waste, Fraud and Abuse!\nThey don’t want provide specific answers, because those will be unpopular. Biden asking for specifics, so he can hammer them on those specifics.",
">\n\nExactly and McCarthy is in an impossible position since he had to agree to a rules change in the House that would let a single member launch a challenge to his speakership. Hence his answer on Twitter which you nicely parroted. “Mr. President,” he wrote, “I received your staff’s memo. I’m not interested in political games. I’m coming to negotiate for the American people.”",
">\n\nGoing into a negotiation with a plan? Does uncle Joe even know republicans?",
">\n\nPresident Joe knows that there isn't a single Republican in Congress who can even fake a detailed budget thing in Word/PDF",
">\n\nThey're going to copy and paste last year's budget, and just reduce everything they don't like.",
">\n\nThen they need to say in detail everything they don't like and by how much they would like to reduce it.",
">\n\nHmm... a detailed budget you say?\n|Budget 2024|Amount|\n:--|:--|\n|Wokeness|$0|\n|Awesomeness|$ALL|\nWhy yes, I'd love a prestigious committee assignment. I'm thinking... chair of Ways and Means? Thanks, Kev!!",
">\n\nChatGOP. I’m calling it now.",
">\n\nIf we could actually just go ahead and replace the entire Republican Party with ChatGPT actually, that would be a step up. At least the AI does it’s job. The GOP is the real do-nothing party.",
">\n\nHe wants them to put in writing all the deeply unpopular demands they are making so no one can deny it later on.",
">\n\n“Curses! Foiled Again!” - Kevin McCarthy",
">\n\nGod. McCarthy is so bad at this.",
">\n\nGood move. He knows how difficult it will be for them to produce one, and even if they are capable of spitting something out, it will likely be unpopular and it will have further stressed their internal divisions.",
">\n\nSummary:\nWe need to cut spending on welfare, infrastructure, and local projects in your area, and futher increase handouts to the 1% and corporations and fatten up the military to prepare for more immoral wars like the Iraq War we blatantly lied our way into. \n-Signed The GOP.",
">\n\nYou are dead on. Now it's all about how they shove this pill down their voter's throats without them getting upset.",
">\n\nIt's hilarious that you have to remind the Republicans to make sure they bring an agenda to the meeting for the things they want.",
">\n\nLooks like the Republicans may have caught another car.",
">\n\nYou mean with like numbers and stuff??? That's a tall order from this bunch of dropouts.",
">\n\n\nFor Debt Ceiling Negotiation\n\nExcuse me?",
">\n\nBut that involves actual work, instead of just shit-talking the Dems.",
">\n\nGuessing the Republicans will produce nothing or something that is completely ridiculous. Republicans remind me of the kid on the school group project who refuses to work with the group and then when the presentation is due they say \"Well that was a shit show, I could have done way better just by myself.\"",
">\n\nHope the White House provided them with a coloring book and crayons.",
">\n\nIt'll be as detailed as Trump's healthcare plan",
">\n\nEvery step of the way has been glaring missteps on the part of republicans.",
">\n\nLol, no that actual would require them to do something, and they only love doing nothing or taking people rights…… if it doesn’t involve those two, forget it.",
">\n\nWhat's stopping the Republicans from just giving a deliberately BS budget? They're just going to lie to Biden lmao",
">\n\nWhat's stopping them is public attention. They can lie if they want, but the current administration is telling Republicans that whatever they say will be in public discussion.",
">\n\nWhen has that actually worked? \nI really, really really hate the mindset on this subreddit that you can shame the GOP into behaving themselves.\nThe Republicans OPENLY VIOLATE FEDERAL LAW ON A REGULAR BASIS WITH NO CONSEQUENCES. Who is holding them accountable? I'm getting sick and tired of this.",
">\n\n\nWhen has that actually worked? \n\nIt's never done. How often do you hear the actual conversations they have, and the plans they make? \n\nmindset on this subreddit that you can shame the GOP into behaving themselves.\n\nI'm not the subreddit, and I don't believe that at all. I treat them as they are, the end. I don't have to shame them, just like I don't have to accept their bullshit.\nI hold them accountable when I deal with them. Can't speak for everyone else though.",
">\n\nUntil I see the federal authorities mass arrest the entire GOP and declare the Republican Party a terrorist organization, they're not doing nearly enough",
">\n\n\nUntil I see the federal authorities mass arrest the entire GOP and declare the Republican Party a terrorist organization, they're not doing nearly enough\n\nI'm not going anywhere near that far. I'm just a person and I'm going to do what I can on the matter.",
">\n\nI'm not asking you, God damn lmao. Where in my comment did I explicitly ask you to personally arrest the entire GOP? I'm saying what I want to happen.\nYou're being really pearl-clutchy and overly finicky for no reason. I'm not trying to interrogate or grill you.",
">\n\n\nI'm not asking you, God damn lmao. Where in my comment did I explicitly ask you to personally arrest the entire GOP? I'm saying what I want to happen.\nYou're being really pearl-clutchy and overly finicky for no reason. I'm not trying to interrogate or grill you.\n\nGood for you.",
">\n\nSo what happened to no negotiations?",
">\n\nThere should be a negotiation on the federal budget. The house is directly responsible for creating the spending bill. It's one of their primary jobs. \nI think the \"no negotiations\" was around deciding not to pay outstanding debts. There's no reason for Biden to negotiate on that because the House already passed the bills authorizing the spending.\nI think it is probably valuable to force Republicans to do a minimum amount of work if they don't want to pay the bills, even if he doesn't expect to agree to compromises around not paying the budget based on it. I personally doubt they have thought any of it through in detail. Why would they? The last Tax Cuts and Jobs Act was riddled with errors and was written in the margins at 3am... and that was their more reasonable Senate reps.",
">\n\nWhy do Democratic continue to use the language if a budget negotiation? This is not a budget negotiation! Yes, Dems need to force the GOP to declare what it is they are actually proposing to cut but Democrats need to educate the public about the process of the debt ceiling and not allow the GOP to conflate budget negotiations with paying for debts already incurred. Voters are smart enough to understand the difference",
">\n\nI truly don't think they are. 23% of voters in his district want Santos to stay and be allowed to represent them when everything that came before was a lie.\nHow on earth do you think that the average voter has any intelligence when 23% of a district thinks a scam artist should stay.",
">\n\nWell to me that means a majority of the people in Santos’s district don’t want him to stay and they do understand why he should go, even in a district that voted for him in the first place. The GOP is hopeless at this point so even those that do understand, don’t care but the last election proved that there are more people in the country that do care about the welfare of the country than those that don’t. The GOP knows that’s true. That’s why they work so hard to lie and cheat and deprive voters of the right to vote. So I have hope that if the Dems can get the truth out and show the contrast, Americans will do the right thing",
">\n\nWrong answer Dema rats in charge there job",
">\n\nIt would require Bobo, EmptyG, and PizzaGaetz to do math, and there are a lot of digits in these figures."
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The Republicans are going to need a serious distraction to get out of this.
They have no clue on how to balance the budget, nor do they care.
They don’t have the power to cut taxes for the wealthy and say it’s for the greater good of the country anymore. | [
"It blows my mind Republicans have been campaigning on cutting Social Security, and Medicare and junk that Boomers are now preparing to get or are already getting, and Boomers still support them completely.",
">\n\nI always assumed any cuts would be geared at future benefits for people that are only just starting to pay in.\nAnd one might think, \"well why would people want to deny others of a benefit that they enjoy themselves\", but we already know the answer.",
">\n\nI know I'm in the minority as an elder millennial, I've been working for the past 25 years with no vacations and smart investments so I am more or less financially set.\nBut if social security is cut for my generation I will quit my job on the spot. I'm not going to pay in one more dime. Fuck these boomers who want to destroy the future to enrich themselves.",
">\n\nThat fact that you mentioned no vacations to be financially sound scares me. Don’t do that… there is zero guarantee you’ll make it to retirement age in shape to enjoy it. Enjoy life now",
">\n\nGenX here that followed the same strategy. My health is fucked. \nOn the bright side, I've probably saved enough for retirement because I'm going to die at my desk before I'm 60.",
">\n\nNot too late to change and start enjoying things now. Ive probably fucked myself over on retirement and that sucks but my body is failing hard and fast and I’m not even old age. I’m so glad I did a lot in my 20s and 30s because I am scared I’ll not make it to 50, let alone 60",
">\n\nNo friends and no interests. And most of my money is in long-term retirement. \nPlus, my medical bills would wipe me out if I quit my job.",
">\n\nAs someone else with no friends or interests I feel this\nExcept I have no investments.",
">\n\n“We’ve already begun work on a comprehensive budget, titled, ‘We hate Democrats Just Because.’ You’ll have it in two weeks.”",
">\n\n\"2 minutes, Turkish\"",
">\n\nIt was 2 minutes 5 minutes ago",
">\n\n\nA Republican budget proposal, the advisers said, should specify whether Republicans would pursue savings through cuts to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, health insurance subsidies, research or public safety spending.\n\nIn other words, you can’t just yell “stop the woke budget!” You have to point out exactly what money is allocated to those causes and then justify why.\nWe all know they won’t do this because they have nothing to point to. So they’ll decry “woke budget!” until the summer and then they will fuck over the country for cheap culture war points.",
">\n\nIt’s absolutely ridiculous. For the past decade at least, Republicans only goal has been to destroy faith in our institutions so they can point out how broken it is and how we need to vote them in to fix it. They are 100% willing to let the government default so they can point to it and say it’s all democrats fault. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. Their constituents religiously watch a single “news” source that tells them exactly what to believe.",
">\n\nWhile ironically calling everyone else around them sheep. Sighhh",
">\n\n“We will block the government from paying debts until you cut spending 😈 What do you think of that Sleepy Joe?”\n“What spending are you going to cut?”\n“Medicare and social securi- uh- I mean no, NO WE WON’T DO THAT! We’ll cut uh… uh… educa- no… uh… the military budg- ahhh our lobbyists need that… we’re gonna cut… something WOKE!”\n“Okay send me a budget.”\n“agggghhhh FUCK YOU JOE!! FUCK YOU!”\nLoving this new GOP that is both toothless and dumb.",
">\n\nThey’re dumb but they aren’t toothless. They can still crater the economy or force this into the (corrupt and right wing) courts and come out with a win.",
">\n\nThere is no world where the debt ceiling doesn’t get raised. It will be raised. The GOP just wants to embarass themselves a bit beforehand it seems",
">\n\nYou’re going to be wrong. They’re that stupid",
">\n\nIn order for the debt ceiling to not be raised, and the US to default on its loans, the Republicans will need almost all their congresspeople to remain opposed to raising it. Even as it causes a recession and blows up all their stock portfolios. \nThe debt ceiling will be raised. But it doesn’t need to be for 6 months. The treasury says it can take extraordinary measures to\nmove money around and pay off debts until June. So the Republicans might just keep refusing to raise the debt ceiling and make a show out of it for a few months.",
">\n\nThat would dominate the news cycles. Yawn.",
">\n\nIt will be produced right after their very beautiful health care plan.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for infrastructure week",
">\n\nInfrastructure week is done. By democrats of course.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"Set Obfuscate Shield to maximum deflection power!\"",
">\n\nLet’s be real, the Republican budget is a picture of Biden they drew a penis on with a Sharpie.",
">\n\nBut they drew it exaggeratedly large so they can see the joke. And now they unironically call him Big Dick Biden because they think he's acting like a huge dick.",
">\n\nTraceable accountability is garlic to the GOP vampire.",
">\n\nDems: \"Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"No!\"\nDems: \"Kevin, be serious here . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"I doan wanna!\nDems: \"C'mon now, Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"You can't make me!!! Just give me what my handlers want or I'm gonna turn on the space lasers!!!\"\n\"Pew! Pew! Pew!\" the Speaker added.",
">\n\nGOP: We want cut waste, fraud and abuse. \nPrez: okay, show us specifics on what you think should be cut.\nGOP: Waste, Fraud and Abuse!\nThey don’t want provide specific answers, because those will be unpopular. Biden asking for specifics, so he can hammer them on those specifics.",
">\n\nExactly and McCarthy is in an impossible position since he had to agree to a rules change in the House that would let a single member launch a challenge to his speakership. Hence his answer on Twitter which you nicely parroted. “Mr. President,” he wrote, “I received your staff’s memo. I’m not interested in political games. I’m coming to negotiate for the American people.”",
">\n\nGoing into a negotiation with a plan? Does uncle Joe even know republicans?",
">\n\nPresident Joe knows that there isn't a single Republican in Congress who can even fake a detailed budget thing in Word/PDF",
">\n\nThey're going to copy and paste last year's budget, and just reduce everything they don't like.",
">\n\nThen they need to say in detail everything they don't like and by how much they would like to reduce it.",
">\n\nHmm... a detailed budget you say?\n|Budget 2024|Amount|\n:--|:--|\n|Wokeness|$0|\n|Awesomeness|$ALL|\nWhy yes, I'd love a prestigious committee assignment. I'm thinking... chair of Ways and Means? Thanks, Kev!!",
">\n\nChatGOP. I’m calling it now.",
">\n\nIf we could actually just go ahead and replace the entire Republican Party with ChatGPT actually, that would be a step up. At least the AI does it’s job. The GOP is the real do-nothing party.",
">\n\nHe wants them to put in writing all the deeply unpopular demands they are making so no one can deny it later on.",
">\n\n“Curses! Foiled Again!” - Kevin McCarthy",
">\n\nGod. McCarthy is so bad at this.",
">\n\nGood move. He knows how difficult it will be for them to produce one, and even if they are capable of spitting something out, it will likely be unpopular and it will have further stressed their internal divisions.",
">\n\nSummary:\nWe need to cut spending on welfare, infrastructure, and local projects in your area, and futher increase handouts to the 1% and corporations and fatten up the military to prepare for more immoral wars like the Iraq War we blatantly lied our way into. \n-Signed The GOP.",
">\n\nYou are dead on. Now it's all about how they shove this pill down their voter's throats without them getting upset.",
">\n\nIt's hilarious that you have to remind the Republicans to make sure they bring an agenda to the meeting for the things they want.",
">\n\nLooks like the Republicans may have caught another car.",
">\n\nYou mean with like numbers and stuff??? That's a tall order from this bunch of dropouts.",
">\n\n\nFor Debt Ceiling Negotiation\n\nExcuse me?",
">\n\nBut that involves actual work, instead of just shit-talking the Dems.",
">\n\nGuessing the Republicans will produce nothing or something that is completely ridiculous. Republicans remind me of the kid on the school group project who refuses to work with the group and then when the presentation is due they say \"Well that was a shit show, I could have done way better just by myself.\"",
">\n\nHope the White House provided them with a coloring book and crayons.",
">\n\nIt'll be as detailed as Trump's healthcare plan",
">\n\nEvery step of the way has been glaring missteps on the part of republicans.",
">\n\nLol, no that actual would require them to do something, and they only love doing nothing or taking people rights…… if it doesn’t involve those two, forget it.",
">\n\nWhat's stopping the Republicans from just giving a deliberately BS budget? They're just going to lie to Biden lmao",
">\n\nWhat's stopping them is public attention. They can lie if they want, but the current administration is telling Republicans that whatever they say will be in public discussion.",
">\n\nWhen has that actually worked? \nI really, really really hate the mindset on this subreddit that you can shame the GOP into behaving themselves.\nThe Republicans OPENLY VIOLATE FEDERAL LAW ON A REGULAR BASIS WITH NO CONSEQUENCES. Who is holding them accountable? I'm getting sick and tired of this.",
">\n\n\nWhen has that actually worked? \n\nIt's never done. How often do you hear the actual conversations they have, and the plans they make? \n\nmindset on this subreddit that you can shame the GOP into behaving themselves.\n\nI'm not the subreddit, and I don't believe that at all. I treat them as they are, the end. I don't have to shame them, just like I don't have to accept their bullshit.\nI hold them accountable when I deal with them. Can't speak for everyone else though.",
">\n\nUntil I see the federal authorities mass arrest the entire GOP and declare the Republican Party a terrorist organization, they're not doing nearly enough",
">\n\n\nUntil I see the federal authorities mass arrest the entire GOP and declare the Republican Party a terrorist organization, they're not doing nearly enough\n\nI'm not going anywhere near that far. I'm just a person and I'm going to do what I can on the matter.",
">\n\nI'm not asking you, God damn lmao. Where in my comment did I explicitly ask you to personally arrest the entire GOP? I'm saying what I want to happen.\nYou're being really pearl-clutchy and overly finicky for no reason. I'm not trying to interrogate or grill you.",
">\n\n\nI'm not asking you, God damn lmao. Where in my comment did I explicitly ask you to personally arrest the entire GOP? I'm saying what I want to happen.\nYou're being really pearl-clutchy and overly finicky for no reason. I'm not trying to interrogate or grill you.\n\nGood for you.",
">\n\nSo what happened to no negotiations?",
">\n\nThere should be a negotiation on the federal budget. The house is directly responsible for creating the spending bill. It's one of their primary jobs. \nI think the \"no negotiations\" was around deciding not to pay outstanding debts. There's no reason for Biden to negotiate on that because the House already passed the bills authorizing the spending.\nI think it is probably valuable to force Republicans to do a minimum amount of work if they don't want to pay the bills, even if he doesn't expect to agree to compromises around not paying the budget based on it. I personally doubt they have thought any of it through in detail. Why would they? The last Tax Cuts and Jobs Act was riddled with errors and was written in the margins at 3am... and that was their more reasonable Senate reps.",
">\n\nWhy do Democratic continue to use the language if a budget negotiation? This is not a budget negotiation! Yes, Dems need to force the GOP to declare what it is they are actually proposing to cut but Democrats need to educate the public about the process of the debt ceiling and not allow the GOP to conflate budget negotiations with paying for debts already incurred. Voters are smart enough to understand the difference",
">\n\nI truly don't think they are. 23% of voters in his district want Santos to stay and be allowed to represent them when everything that came before was a lie.\nHow on earth do you think that the average voter has any intelligence when 23% of a district thinks a scam artist should stay.",
">\n\nWell to me that means a majority of the people in Santos’s district don’t want him to stay and they do understand why he should go, even in a district that voted for him in the first place. The GOP is hopeless at this point so even those that do understand, don’t care but the last election proved that there are more people in the country that do care about the welfare of the country than those that don’t. The GOP knows that’s true. That’s why they work so hard to lie and cheat and deprive voters of the right to vote. So I have hope that if the Dems can get the truth out and show the contrast, Americans will do the right thing",
">\n\nWrong answer Dema rats in charge there job",
">\n\nIt would require Bobo, EmptyG, and PizzaGaetz to do math, and there are a lot of digits in these figures.",
">\n\nThe will find it just under the better Obama care plan and their plan for immigration reform. Back in some closet with the binder full of women. (and some secret stuff folders)"
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They will have it in two weeks, honest. | [
"It blows my mind Republicans have been campaigning on cutting Social Security, and Medicare and junk that Boomers are now preparing to get or are already getting, and Boomers still support them completely.",
">\n\nI always assumed any cuts would be geared at future benefits for people that are only just starting to pay in.\nAnd one might think, \"well why would people want to deny others of a benefit that they enjoy themselves\", but we already know the answer.",
">\n\nI know I'm in the minority as an elder millennial, I've been working for the past 25 years with no vacations and smart investments so I am more or less financially set.\nBut if social security is cut for my generation I will quit my job on the spot. I'm not going to pay in one more dime. Fuck these boomers who want to destroy the future to enrich themselves.",
">\n\nThat fact that you mentioned no vacations to be financially sound scares me. Don’t do that… there is zero guarantee you’ll make it to retirement age in shape to enjoy it. Enjoy life now",
">\n\nGenX here that followed the same strategy. My health is fucked. \nOn the bright side, I've probably saved enough for retirement because I'm going to die at my desk before I'm 60.",
">\n\nNot too late to change and start enjoying things now. Ive probably fucked myself over on retirement and that sucks but my body is failing hard and fast and I’m not even old age. I’m so glad I did a lot in my 20s and 30s because I am scared I’ll not make it to 50, let alone 60",
">\n\nNo friends and no interests. And most of my money is in long-term retirement. \nPlus, my medical bills would wipe me out if I quit my job.",
">\n\nAs someone else with no friends or interests I feel this\nExcept I have no investments.",
">\n\n“We’ve already begun work on a comprehensive budget, titled, ‘We hate Democrats Just Because.’ You’ll have it in two weeks.”",
">\n\n\"2 minutes, Turkish\"",
">\n\nIt was 2 minutes 5 minutes ago",
">\n\n\nA Republican budget proposal, the advisers said, should specify whether Republicans would pursue savings through cuts to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, health insurance subsidies, research or public safety spending.\n\nIn other words, you can’t just yell “stop the woke budget!” You have to point out exactly what money is allocated to those causes and then justify why.\nWe all know they won’t do this because they have nothing to point to. So they’ll decry “woke budget!” until the summer and then they will fuck over the country for cheap culture war points.",
">\n\nIt’s absolutely ridiculous. For the past decade at least, Republicans only goal has been to destroy faith in our institutions so they can point out how broken it is and how we need to vote them in to fix it. They are 100% willing to let the government default so they can point to it and say it’s all democrats fault. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. Their constituents religiously watch a single “news” source that tells them exactly what to believe.",
">\n\nWhile ironically calling everyone else around them sheep. Sighhh",
">\n\n“We will block the government from paying debts until you cut spending 😈 What do you think of that Sleepy Joe?”\n“What spending are you going to cut?”\n“Medicare and social securi- uh- I mean no, NO WE WON’T DO THAT! We’ll cut uh… uh… educa- no… uh… the military budg- ahhh our lobbyists need that… we’re gonna cut… something WOKE!”\n“Okay send me a budget.”\n“agggghhhh FUCK YOU JOE!! FUCK YOU!”\nLoving this new GOP that is both toothless and dumb.",
">\n\nThey’re dumb but they aren’t toothless. They can still crater the economy or force this into the (corrupt and right wing) courts and come out with a win.",
">\n\nThere is no world where the debt ceiling doesn’t get raised. It will be raised. The GOP just wants to embarass themselves a bit beforehand it seems",
">\n\nYou’re going to be wrong. They’re that stupid",
">\n\nIn order for the debt ceiling to not be raised, and the US to default on its loans, the Republicans will need almost all their congresspeople to remain opposed to raising it. Even as it causes a recession and blows up all their stock portfolios. \nThe debt ceiling will be raised. But it doesn’t need to be for 6 months. The treasury says it can take extraordinary measures to\nmove money around and pay off debts until June. So the Republicans might just keep refusing to raise the debt ceiling and make a show out of it for a few months.",
">\n\nThat would dominate the news cycles. Yawn.",
">\n\nIt will be produced right after their very beautiful health care plan.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for infrastructure week",
">\n\nInfrastructure week is done. By democrats of course.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"Set Obfuscate Shield to maximum deflection power!\"",
">\n\nLet’s be real, the Republican budget is a picture of Biden they drew a penis on with a Sharpie.",
">\n\nBut they drew it exaggeratedly large so they can see the joke. And now they unironically call him Big Dick Biden because they think he's acting like a huge dick.",
">\n\nTraceable accountability is garlic to the GOP vampire.",
">\n\nDems: \"Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"No!\"\nDems: \"Kevin, be serious here . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"I doan wanna!\nDems: \"C'mon now, Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"You can't make me!!! Just give me what my handlers want or I'm gonna turn on the space lasers!!!\"\n\"Pew! Pew! Pew!\" the Speaker added.",
">\n\nGOP: We want cut waste, fraud and abuse. \nPrez: okay, show us specifics on what you think should be cut.\nGOP: Waste, Fraud and Abuse!\nThey don’t want provide specific answers, because those will be unpopular. Biden asking for specifics, so he can hammer them on those specifics.",
">\n\nExactly and McCarthy is in an impossible position since he had to agree to a rules change in the House that would let a single member launch a challenge to his speakership. Hence his answer on Twitter which you nicely parroted. “Mr. President,” he wrote, “I received your staff’s memo. I’m not interested in political games. I’m coming to negotiate for the American people.”",
">\n\nGoing into a negotiation with a plan? Does uncle Joe even know republicans?",
">\n\nPresident Joe knows that there isn't a single Republican in Congress who can even fake a detailed budget thing in Word/PDF",
">\n\nThey're going to copy and paste last year's budget, and just reduce everything they don't like.",
">\n\nThen they need to say in detail everything they don't like and by how much they would like to reduce it.",
">\n\nHmm... a detailed budget you say?\n|Budget 2024|Amount|\n:--|:--|\n|Wokeness|$0|\n|Awesomeness|$ALL|\nWhy yes, I'd love a prestigious committee assignment. I'm thinking... chair of Ways and Means? Thanks, Kev!!",
">\n\nChatGOP. I’m calling it now.",
">\n\nIf we could actually just go ahead and replace the entire Republican Party with ChatGPT actually, that would be a step up. At least the AI does it’s job. The GOP is the real do-nothing party.",
">\n\nHe wants them to put in writing all the deeply unpopular demands they are making so no one can deny it later on.",
">\n\n“Curses! Foiled Again!” - Kevin McCarthy",
">\n\nGod. McCarthy is so bad at this.",
">\n\nGood move. He knows how difficult it will be for them to produce one, and even if they are capable of spitting something out, it will likely be unpopular and it will have further stressed their internal divisions.",
">\n\nSummary:\nWe need to cut spending on welfare, infrastructure, and local projects in your area, and futher increase handouts to the 1% and corporations and fatten up the military to prepare for more immoral wars like the Iraq War we blatantly lied our way into. \n-Signed The GOP.",
">\n\nYou are dead on. Now it's all about how they shove this pill down their voter's throats without them getting upset.",
">\n\nIt's hilarious that you have to remind the Republicans to make sure they bring an agenda to the meeting for the things they want.",
">\n\nLooks like the Republicans may have caught another car.",
">\n\nYou mean with like numbers and stuff??? That's a tall order from this bunch of dropouts.",
">\n\n\nFor Debt Ceiling Negotiation\n\nExcuse me?",
">\n\nBut that involves actual work, instead of just shit-talking the Dems.",
">\n\nGuessing the Republicans will produce nothing or something that is completely ridiculous. Republicans remind me of the kid on the school group project who refuses to work with the group and then when the presentation is due they say \"Well that was a shit show, I could have done way better just by myself.\"",
">\n\nHope the White House provided them with a coloring book and crayons.",
">\n\nIt'll be as detailed as Trump's healthcare plan",
">\n\nEvery step of the way has been glaring missteps on the part of republicans.",
">\n\nLol, no that actual would require them to do something, and they only love doing nothing or taking people rights…… if it doesn’t involve those two, forget it.",
">\n\nWhat's stopping the Republicans from just giving a deliberately BS budget? They're just going to lie to Biden lmao",
">\n\nWhat's stopping them is public attention. They can lie if they want, but the current administration is telling Republicans that whatever they say will be in public discussion.",
">\n\nWhen has that actually worked? \nI really, really really hate the mindset on this subreddit that you can shame the GOP into behaving themselves.\nThe Republicans OPENLY VIOLATE FEDERAL LAW ON A REGULAR BASIS WITH NO CONSEQUENCES. Who is holding them accountable? I'm getting sick and tired of this.",
">\n\n\nWhen has that actually worked? \n\nIt's never done. How often do you hear the actual conversations they have, and the plans they make? \n\nmindset on this subreddit that you can shame the GOP into behaving themselves.\n\nI'm not the subreddit, and I don't believe that at all. I treat them as they are, the end. I don't have to shame them, just like I don't have to accept their bullshit.\nI hold them accountable when I deal with them. Can't speak for everyone else though.",
">\n\nUntil I see the federal authorities mass arrest the entire GOP and declare the Republican Party a terrorist organization, they're not doing nearly enough",
">\n\n\nUntil I see the federal authorities mass arrest the entire GOP and declare the Republican Party a terrorist organization, they're not doing nearly enough\n\nI'm not going anywhere near that far. I'm just a person and I'm going to do what I can on the matter.",
">\n\nI'm not asking you, God damn lmao. Where in my comment did I explicitly ask you to personally arrest the entire GOP? I'm saying what I want to happen.\nYou're being really pearl-clutchy and overly finicky for no reason. I'm not trying to interrogate or grill you.",
">\n\n\nI'm not asking you, God damn lmao. Where in my comment did I explicitly ask you to personally arrest the entire GOP? I'm saying what I want to happen.\nYou're being really pearl-clutchy and overly finicky for no reason. I'm not trying to interrogate or grill you.\n\nGood for you.",
">\n\nSo what happened to no negotiations?",
">\n\nThere should be a negotiation on the federal budget. The house is directly responsible for creating the spending bill. It's one of their primary jobs. \nI think the \"no negotiations\" was around deciding not to pay outstanding debts. There's no reason for Biden to negotiate on that because the House already passed the bills authorizing the spending.\nI think it is probably valuable to force Republicans to do a minimum amount of work if they don't want to pay the bills, even if he doesn't expect to agree to compromises around not paying the budget based on it. I personally doubt they have thought any of it through in detail. Why would they? The last Tax Cuts and Jobs Act was riddled with errors and was written in the margins at 3am... and that was their more reasonable Senate reps.",
">\n\nWhy do Democratic continue to use the language if a budget negotiation? This is not a budget negotiation! Yes, Dems need to force the GOP to declare what it is they are actually proposing to cut but Democrats need to educate the public about the process of the debt ceiling and not allow the GOP to conflate budget negotiations with paying for debts already incurred. Voters are smart enough to understand the difference",
">\n\nI truly don't think they are. 23% of voters in his district want Santos to stay and be allowed to represent them when everything that came before was a lie.\nHow on earth do you think that the average voter has any intelligence when 23% of a district thinks a scam artist should stay.",
">\n\nWell to me that means a majority of the people in Santos’s district don’t want him to stay and they do understand why he should go, even in a district that voted for him in the first place. The GOP is hopeless at this point so even those that do understand, don’t care but the last election proved that there are more people in the country that do care about the welfare of the country than those that don’t. The GOP knows that’s true. That’s why they work so hard to lie and cheat and deprive voters of the right to vote. So I have hope that if the Dems can get the truth out and show the contrast, Americans will do the right thing",
">\n\nWrong answer Dema rats in charge there job",
">\n\nIt would require Bobo, EmptyG, and PizzaGaetz to do math, and there are a lot of digits in these figures.",
">\n\nThe will find it just under the better Obama care plan and their plan for immigration reform. Back in some closet with the binder full of women. (and some secret stuff folders)",
">\n\nThe Republicans are going to need a serious distraction to get out of this.\nThey have no clue on how to balance the budget, nor do they care.\nThey don’t have the power to cut taxes for the wealthy and say it’s for the greater good of the country anymore."
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If they do oblige, Biden and the democrats had better read it twice and read it good to make sure there's nothing shady going on before signing anything.
The 2023 appropriations Omnibus signed in December prematurely ended the Pandemic EBT program which is going to result in a massive SNAP cut for millions of people in more than half of the country starting in March. I have to assume that was an oversight or a concession due to the timeline since the democrats signed it. I don't want anything like that happening again here. It is unacceptable. | [
"It blows my mind Republicans have been campaigning on cutting Social Security, and Medicare and junk that Boomers are now preparing to get or are already getting, and Boomers still support them completely.",
">\n\nI always assumed any cuts would be geared at future benefits for people that are only just starting to pay in.\nAnd one might think, \"well why would people want to deny others of a benefit that they enjoy themselves\", but we already know the answer.",
">\n\nI know I'm in the minority as an elder millennial, I've been working for the past 25 years with no vacations and smart investments so I am more or less financially set.\nBut if social security is cut for my generation I will quit my job on the spot. I'm not going to pay in one more dime. Fuck these boomers who want to destroy the future to enrich themselves.",
">\n\nThat fact that you mentioned no vacations to be financially sound scares me. Don’t do that… there is zero guarantee you’ll make it to retirement age in shape to enjoy it. Enjoy life now",
">\n\nGenX here that followed the same strategy. My health is fucked. \nOn the bright side, I've probably saved enough for retirement because I'm going to die at my desk before I'm 60.",
">\n\nNot too late to change and start enjoying things now. Ive probably fucked myself over on retirement and that sucks but my body is failing hard and fast and I’m not even old age. I’m so glad I did a lot in my 20s and 30s because I am scared I’ll not make it to 50, let alone 60",
">\n\nNo friends and no interests. And most of my money is in long-term retirement. \nPlus, my medical bills would wipe me out if I quit my job.",
">\n\nAs someone else with no friends or interests I feel this\nExcept I have no investments.",
">\n\n“We’ve already begun work on a comprehensive budget, titled, ‘We hate Democrats Just Because.’ You’ll have it in two weeks.”",
">\n\n\"2 minutes, Turkish\"",
">\n\nIt was 2 minutes 5 minutes ago",
">\n\n\nA Republican budget proposal, the advisers said, should specify whether Republicans would pursue savings through cuts to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, health insurance subsidies, research or public safety spending.\n\nIn other words, you can’t just yell “stop the woke budget!” You have to point out exactly what money is allocated to those causes and then justify why.\nWe all know they won’t do this because they have nothing to point to. So they’ll decry “woke budget!” until the summer and then they will fuck over the country for cheap culture war points.",
">\n\nIt’s absolutely ridiculous. For the past decade at least, Republicans only goal has been to destroy faith in our institutions so they can point out how broken it is and how we need to vote them in to fix it. They are 100% willing to let the government default so they can point to it and say it’s all democrats fault. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. Their constituents religiously watch a single “news” source that tells them exactly what to believe.",
">\n\nWhile ironically calling everyone else around them sheep. Sighhh",
">\n\n“We will block the government from paying debts until you cut spending 😈 What do you think of that Sleepy Joe?”\n“What spending are you going to cut?”\n“Medicare and social securi- uh- I mean no, NO WE WON’T DO THAT! We’ll cut uh… uh… educa- no… uh… the military budg- ahhh our lobbyists need that… we’re gonna cut… something WOKE!”\n“Okay send me a budget.”\n“agggghhhh FUCK YOU JOE!! FUCK YOU!”\nLoving this new GOP that is both toothless and dumb.",
">\n\nThey’re dumb but they aren’t toothless. They can still crater the economy or force this into the (corrupt and right wing) courts and come out with a win.",
">\n\nThere is no world where the debt ceiling doesn’t get raised. It will be raised. The GOP just wants to embarass themselves a bit beforehand it seems",
">\n\nYou’re going to be wrong. They’re that stupid",
">\n\nIn order for the debt ceiling to not be raised, and the US to default on its loans, the Republicans will need almost all their congresspeople to remain opposed to raising it. Even as it causes a recession and blows up all their stock portfolios. \nThe debt ceiling will be raised. But it doesn’t need to be for 6 months. The treasury says it can take extraordinary measures to\nmove money around and pay off debts until June. So the Republicans might just keep refusing to raise the debt ceiling and make a show out of it for a few months.",
">\n\nThat would dominate the news cycles. Yawn.",
">\n\nIt will be produced right after their very beautiful health care plan.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for infrastructure week",
">\n\nInfrastructure week is done. By democrats of course.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"Set Obfuscate Shield to maximum deflection power!\"",
">\n\nLet’s be real, the Republican budget is a picture of Biden they drew a penis on with a Sharpie.",
">\n\nBut they drew it exaggeratedly large so they can see the joke. And now they unironically call him Big Dick Biden because they think he's acting like a huge dick.",
">\n\nTraceable accountability is garlic to the GOP vampire.",
">\n\nDems: \"Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"No!\"\nDems: \"Kevin, be serious here . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"I doan wanna!\nDems: \"C'mon now, Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"You can't make me!!! Just give me what my handlers want or I'm gonna turn on the space lasers!!!\"\n\"Pew! Pew! Pew!\" the Speaker added.",
">\n\nGOP: We want cut waste, fraud and abuse. \nPrez: okay, show us specifics on what you think should be cut.\nGOP: Waste, Fraud and Abuse!\nThey don’t want provide specific answers, because those will be unpopular. Biden asking for specifics, so he can hammer them on those specifics.",
">\n\nExactly and McCarthy is in an impossible position since he had to agree to a rules change in the House that would let a single member launch a challenge to his speakership. Hence his answer on Twitter which you nicely parroted. “Mr. President,” he wrote, “I received your staff’s memo. I’m not interested in political games. I’m coming to negotiate for the American people.”",
">\n\nGoing into a negotiation with a plan? Does uncle Joe even know republicans?",
">\n\nPresident Joe knows that there isn't a single Republican in Congress who can even fake a detailed budget thing in Word/PDF",
">\n\nThey're going to copy and paste last year's budget, and just reduce everything they don't like.",
">\n\nThen they need to say in detail everything they don't like and by how much they would like to reduce it.",
">\n\nHmm... a detailed budget you say?\n|Budget 2024|Amount|\n:--|:--|\n|Wokeness|$0|\n|Awesomeness|$ALL|\nWhy yes, I'd love a prestigious committee assignment. I'm thinking... chair of Ways and Means? Thanks, Kev!!",
">\n\nChatGOP. I’m calling it now.",
">\n\nIf we could actually just go ahead and replace the entire Republican Party with ChatGPT actually, that would be a step up. At least the AI does it’s job. The GOP is the real do-nothing party.",
">\n\nHe wants them to put in writing all the deeply unpopular demands they are making so no one can deny it later on.",
">\n\n“Curses! Foiled Again!” - Kevin McCarthy",
">\n\nGod. McCarthy is so bad at this.",
">\n\nGood move. He knows how difficult it will be for them to produce one, and even if they are capable of spitting something out, it will likely be unpopular and it will have further stressed their internal divisions.",
">\n\nSummary:\nWe need to cut spending on welfare, infrastructure, and local projects in your area, and futher increase handouts to the 1% and corporations and fatten up the military to prepare for more immoral wars like the Iraq War we blatantly lied our way into. \n-Signed The GOP.",
">\n\nYou are dead on. Now it's all about how they shove this pill down their voter's throats without them getting upset.",
">\n\nIt's hilarious that you have to remind the Republicans to make sure they bring an agenda to the meeting for the things they want.",
">\n\nLooks like the Republicans may have caught another car.",
">\n\nYou mean with like numbers and stuff??? That's a tall order from this bunch of dropouts.",
">\n\n\nFor Debt Ceiling Negotiation\n\nExcuse me?",
">\n\nBut that involves actual work, instead of just shit-talking the Dems.",
">\n\nGuessing the Republicans will produce nothing or something that is completely ridiculous. Republicans remind me of the kid on the school group project who refuses to work with the group and then when the presentation is due they say \"Well that was a shit show, I could have done way better just by myself.\"",
">\n\nHope the White House provided them with a coloring book and crayons.",
">\n\nIt'll be as detailed as Trump's healthcare plan",
">\n\nEvery step of the way has been glaring missteps on the part of republicans.",
">\n\nLol, no that actual would require them to do something, and they only love doing nothing or taking people rights…… if it doesn’t involve those two, forget it.",
">\n\nWhat's stopping the Republicans from just giving a deliberately BS budget? They're just going to lie to Biden lmao",
">\n\nWhat's stopping them is public attention. They can lie if they want, but the current administration is telling Republicans that whatever they say will be in public discussion.",
">\n\nWhen has that actually worked? \nI really, really really hate the mindset on this subreddit that you can shame the GOP into behaving themselves.\nThe Republicans OPENLY VIOLATE FEDERAL LAW ON A REGULAR BASIS WITH NO CONSEQUENCES. Who is holding them accountable? I'm getting sick and tired of this.",
">\n\n\nWhen has that actually worked? \n\nIt's never done. How often do you hear the actual conversations they have, and the plans they make? \n\nmindset on this subreddit that you can shame the GOP into behaving themselves.\n\nI'm not the subreddit, and I don't believe that at all. I treat them as they are, the end. I don't have to shame them, just like I don't have to accept their bullshit.\nI hold them accountable when I deal with them. Can't speak for everyone else though.",
">\n\nUntil I see the federal authorities mass arrest the entire GOP and declare the Republican Party a terrorist organization, they're not doing nearly enough",
">\n\n\nUntil I see the federal authorities mass arrest the entire GOP and declare the Republican Party a terrorist organization, they're not doing nearly enough\n\nI'm not going anywhere near that far. I'm just a person and I'm going to do what I can on the matter.",
">\n\nI'm not asking you, God damn lmao. Where in my comment did I explicitly ask you to personally arrest the entire GOP? I'm saying what I want to happen.\nYou're being really pearl-clutchy and overly finicky for no reason. I'm not trying to interrogate or grill you.",
">\n\n\nI'm not asking you, God damn lmao. Where in my comment did I explicitly ask you to personally arrest the entire GOP? I'm saying what I want to happen.\nYou're being really pearl-clutchy and overly finicky for no reason. I'm not trying to interrogate or grill you.\n\nGood for you.",
">\n\nSo what happened to no negotiations?",
">\n\nThere should be a negotiation on the federal budget. The house is directly responsible for creating the spending bill. It's one of their primary jobs. \nI think the \"no negotiations\" was around deciding not to pay outstanding debts. There's no reason for Biden to negotiate on that because the House already passed the bills authorizing the spending.\nI think it is probably valuable to force Republicans to do a minimum amount of work if they don't want to pay the bills, even if he doesn't expect to agree to compromises around not paying the budget based on it. I personally doubt they have thought any of it through in detail. Why would they? The last Tax Cuts and Jobs Act was riddled with errors and was written in the margins at 3am... and that was their more reasonable Senate reps.",
">\n\nWhy do Democratic continue to use the language if a budget negotiation? This is not a budget negotiation! Yes, Dems need to force the GOP to declare what it is they are actually proposing to cut but Democrats need to educate the public about the process of the debt ceiling and not allow the GOP to conflate budget negotiations with paying for debts already incurred. Voters are smart enough to understand the difference",
">\n\nI truly don't think they are. 23% of voters in his district want Santos to stay and be allowed to represent them when everything that came before was a lie.\nHow on earth do you think that the average voter has any intelligence when 23% of a district thinks a scam artist should stay.",
">\n\nWell to me that means a majority of the people in Santos’s district don’t want him to stay and they do understand why he should go, even in a district that voted for him in the first place. The GOP is hopeless at this point so even those that do understand, don’t care but the last election proved that there are more people in the country that do care about the welfare of the country than those that don’t. The GOP knows that’s true. That’s why they work so hard to lie and cheat and deprive voters of the right to vote. So I have hope that if the Dems can get the truth out and show the contrast, Americans will do the right thing",
">\n\nWrong answer Dema rats in charge there job",
">\n\nIt would require Bobo, EmptyG, and PizzaGaetz to do math, and there are a lot of digits in these figures.",
">\n\nThe will find it just under the better Obama care plan and their plan for immigration reform. Back in some closet with the binder full of women. (and some secret stuff folders)",
">\n\nThe Republicans are going to need a serious distraction to get out of this.\nThey have no clue on how to balance the budget, nor do they care.\nThey don’t have the power to cut taxes for the wealthy and say it’s for the greater good of the country anymore.",
">\n\nThey will have it in two weeks, honest."
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Budget was passed into law in December. This is to raise the debt ceiling to pay for the budget. . .that was passed.
I think Biden asking for a budget is just to keep them busy. | [
"It blows my mind Republicans have been campaigning on cutting Social Security, and Medicare and junk that Boomers are now preparing to get or are already getting, and Boomers still support them completely.",
">\n\nI always assumed any cuts would be geared at future benefits for people that are only just starting to pay in.\nAnd one might think, \"well why would people want to deny others of a benefit that they enjoy themselves\", but we already know the answer.",
">\n\nI know I'm in the minority as an elder millennial, I've been working for the past 25 years with no vacations and smart investments so I am more or less financially set.\nBut if social security is cut for my generation I will quit my job on the spot. I'm not going to pay in one more dime. Fuck these boomers who want to destroy the future to enrich themselves.",
">\n\nThat fact that you mentioned no vacations to be financially sound scares me. Don’t do that… there is zero guarantee you’ll make it to retirement age in shape to enjoy it. Enjoy life now",
">\n\nGenX here that followed the same strategy. My health is fucked. \nOn the bright side, I've probably saved enough for retirement because I'm going to die at my desk before I'm 60.",
">\n\nNot too late to change and start enjoying things now. Ive probably fucked myself over on retirement and that sucks but my body is failing hard and fast and I’m not even old age. I’m so glad I did a lot in my 20s and 30s because I am scared I’ll not make it to 50, let alone 60",
">\n\nNo friends and no interests. And most of my money is in long-term retirement. \nPlus, my medical bills would wipe me out if I quit my job.",
">\n\nAs someone else with no friends or interests I feel this\nExcept I have no investments.",
">\n\n“We’ve already begun work on a comprehensive budget, titled, ‘We hate Democrats Just Because.’ You’ll have it in two weeks.”",
">\n\n\"2 minutes, Turkish\"",
">\n\nIt was 2 minutes 5 minutes ago",
">\n\n\nA Republican budget proposal, the advisers said, should specify whether Republicans would pursue savings through cuts to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, health insurance subsidies, research or public safety spending.\n\nIn other words, you can’t just yell “stop the woke budget!” You have to point out exactly what money is allocated to those causes and then justify why.\nWe all know they won’t do this because they have nothing to point to. So they’ll decry “woke budget!” until the summer and then they will fuck over the country for cheap culture war points.",
">\n\nIt’s absolutely ridiculous. For the past decade at least, Republicans only goal has been to destroy faith in our institutions so they can point out how broken it is and how we need to vote them in to fix it. They are 100% willing to let the government default so they can point to it and say it’s all democrats fault. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. Their constituents religiously watch a single “news” source that tells them exactly what to believe.",
">\n\nWhile ironically calling everyone else around them sheep. Sighhh",
">\n\n“We will block the government from paying debts until you cut spending 😈 What do you think of that Sleepy Joe?”\n“What spending are you going to cut?”\n“Medicare and social securi- uh- I mean no, NO WE WON’T DO THAT! We’ll cut uh… uh… educa- no… uh… the military budg- ahhh our lobbyists need that… we’re gonna cut… something WOKE!”\n“Okay send me a budget.”\n“agggghhhh FUCK YOU JOE!! FUCK YOU!”\nLoving this new GOP that is both toothless and dumb.",
">\n\nThey’re dumb but they aren’t toothless. They can still crater the economy or force this into the (corrupt and right wing) courts and come out with a win.",
">\n\nThere is no world where the debt ceiling doesn’t get raised. It will be raised. The GOP just wants to embarass themselves a bit beforehand it seems",
">\n\nYou’re going to be wrong. They’re that stupid",
">\n\nIn order for the debt ceiling to not be raised, and the US to default on its loans, the Republicans will need almost all their congresspeople to remain opposed to raising it. Even as it causes a recession and blows up all their stock portfolios. \nThe debt ceiling will be raised. But it doesn’t need to be for 6 months. The treasury says it can take extraordinary measures to\nmove money around and pay off debts until June. So the Republicans might just keep refusing to raise the debt ceiling and make a show out of it for a few months.",
">\n\nThat would dominate the news cycles. Yawn.",
">\n\nIt will be produced right after their very beautiful health care plan.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for infrastructure week",
">\n\nInfrastructure week is done. By democrats of course.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"Set Obfuscate Shield to maximum deflection power!\"",
">\n\nLet’s be real, the Republican budget is a picture of Biden they drew a penis on with a Sharpie.",
">\n\nBut they drew it exaggeratedly large so they can see the joke. And now they unironically call him Big Dick Biden because they think he's acting like a huge dick.",
">\n\nTraceable accountability is garlic to the GOP vampire.",
">\n\nDems: \"Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"No!\"\nDems: \"Kevin, be serious here . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"I doan wanna!\nDems: \"C'mon now, Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"You can't make me!!! Just give me what my handlers want or I'm gonna turn on the space lasers!!!\"\n\"Pew! Pew! Pew!\" the Speaker added.",
">\n\nGOP: We want cut waste, fraud and abuse. \nPrez: okay, show us specifics on what you think should be cut.\nGOP: Waste, Fraud and Abuse!\nThey don’t want provide specific answers, because those will be unpopular. Biden asking for specifics, so he can hammer them on those specifics.",
">\n\nExactly and McCarthy is in an impossible position since he had to agree to a rules change in the House that would let a single member launch a challenge to his speakership. Hence his answer on Twitter which you nicely parroted. “Mr. President,” he wrote, “I received your staff’s memo. I’m not interested in political games. I’m coming to negotiate for the American people.”",
">\n\nGoing into a negotiation with a plan? Does uncle Joe even know republicans?",
">\n\nPresident Joe knows that there isn't a single Republican in Congress who can even fake a detailed budget thing in Word/PDF",
">\n\nThey're going to copy and paste last year's budget, and just reduce everything they don't like.",
">\n\nThen they need to say in detail everything they don't like and by how much they would like to reduce it.",
">\n\nHmm... a detailed budget you say?\n|Budget 2024|Amount|\n:--|:--|\n|Wokeness|$0|\n|Awesomeness|$ALL|\nWhy yes, I'd love a prestigious committee assignment. I'm thinking... chair of Ways and Means? Thanks, Kev!!",
">\n\nChatGOP. I’m calling it now.",
">\n\nIf we could actually just go ahead and replace the entire Republican Party with ChatGPT actually, that would be a step up. At least the AI does it’s job. The GOP is the real do-nothing party.",
">\n\nHe wants them to put in writing all the deeply unpopular demands they are making so no one can deny it later on.",
">\n\n“Curses! Foiled Again!” - Kevin McCarthy",
">\n\nGod. McCarthy is so bad at this.",
">\n\nGood move. He knows how difficult it will be for them to produce one, and even if they are capable of spitting something out, it will likely be unpopular and it will have further stressed their internal divisions.",
">\n\nSummary:\nWe need to cut spending on welfare, infrastructure, and local projects in your area, and futher increase handouts to the 1% and corporations and fatten up the military to prepare for more immoral wars like the Iraq War we blatantly lied our way into. \n-Signed The GOP.",
">\n\nYou are dead on. Now it's all about how they shove this pill down their voter's throats without them getting upset.",
">\n\nIt's hilarious that you have to remind the Republicans to make sure they bring an agenda to the meeting for the things they want.",
">\n\nLooks like the Republicans may have caught another car.",
">\n\nYou mean with like numbers and stuff??? That's a tall order from this bunch of dropouts.",
">\n\n\nFor Debt Ceiling Negotiation\n\nExcuse me?",
">\n\nBut that involves actual work, instead of just shit-talking the Dems.",
">\n\nGuessing the Republicans will produce nothing or something that is completely ridiculous. Republicans remind me of the kid on the school group project who refuses to work with the group and then when the presentation is due they say \"Well that was a shit show, I could have done way better just by myself.\"",
">\n\nHope the White House provided them with a coloring book and crayons.",
">\n\nIt'll be as detailed as Trump's healthcare plan",
">\n\nEvery step of the way has been glaring missteps on the part of republicans.",
">\n\nLol, no that actual would require them to do something, and they only love doing nothing or taking people rights…… if it doesn’t involve those two, forget it.",
">\n\nWhat's stopping the Republicans from just giving a deliberately BS budget? They're just going to lie to Biden lmao",
">\n\nWhat's stopping them is public attention. They can lie if they want, but the current administration is telling Republicans that whatever they say will be in public discussion.",
">\n\nWhen has that actually worked? \nI really, really really hate the mindset on this subreddit that you can shame the GOP into behaving themselves.\nThe Republicans OPENLY VIOLATE FEDERAL LAW ON A REGULAR BASIS WITH NO CONSEQUENCES. Who is holding them accountable? I'm getting sick and tired of this.",
">\n\n\nWhen has that actually worked? \n\nIt's never done. How often do you hear the actual conversations they have, and the plans they make? \n\nmindset on this subreddit that you can shame the GOP into behaving themselves.\n\nI'm not the subreddit, and I don't believe that at all. I treat them as they are, the end. I don't have to shame them, just like I don't have to accept their bullshit.\nI hold them accountable when I deal with them. Can't speak for everyone else though.",
">\n\nUntil I see the federal authorities mass arrest the entire GOP and declare the Republican Party a terrorist organization, they're not doing nearly enough",
">\n\n\nUntil I see the federal authorities mass arrest the entire GOP and declare the Republican Party a terrorist organization, they're not doing nearly enough\n\nI'm not going anywhere near that far. I'm just a person and I'm going to do what I can on the matter.",
">\n\nI'm not asking you, God damn lmao. Where in my comment did I explicitly ask you to personally arrest the entire GOP? I'm saying what I want to happen.\nYou're being really pearl-clutchy and overly finicky for no reason. I'm not trying to interrogate or grill you.",
">\n\n\nI'm not asking you, God damn lmao. Where in my comment did I explicitly ask you to personally arrest the entire GOP? I'm saying what I want to happen.\nYou're being really pearl-clutchy and overly finicky for no reason. I'm not trying to interrogate or grill you.\n\nGood for you.",
">\n\nSo what happened to no negotiations?",
">\n\nThere should be a negotiation on the federal budget. The house is directly responsible for creating the spending bill. It's one of their primary jobs. \nI think the \"no negotiations\" was around deciding not to pay outstanding debts. There's no reason for Biden to negotiate on that because the House already passed the bills authorizing the spending.\nI think it is probably valuable to force Republicans to do a minimum amount of work if they don't want to pay the bills, even if he doesn't expect to agree to compromises around not paying the budget based on it. I personally doubt they have thought any of it through in detail. Why would they? The last Tax Cuts and Jobs Act was riddled with errors and was written in the margins at 3am... and that was their more reasonable Senate reps.",
">\n\nWhy do Democratic continue to use the language if a budget negotiation? This is not a budget negotiation! Yes, Dems need to force the GOP to declare what it is they are actually proposing to cut but Democrats need to educate the public about the process of the debt ceiling and not allow the GOP to conflate budget negotiations with paying for debts already incurred. Voters are smart enough to understand the difference",
">\n\nI truly don't think they are. 23% of voters in his district want Santos to stay and be allowed to represent them when everything that came before was a lie.\nHow on earth do you think that the average voter has any intelligence when 23% of a district thinks a scam artist should stay.",
">\n\nWell to me that means a majority of the people in Santos’s district don’t want him to stay and they do understand why he should go, even in a district that voted for him in the first place. The GOP is hopeless at this point so even those that do understand, don’t care but the last election proved that there are more people in the country that do care about the welfare of the country than those that don’t. The GOP knows that’s true. That’s why they work so hard to lie and cheat and deprive voters of the right to vote. So I have hope that if the Dems can get the truth out and show the contrast, Americans will do the right thing",
">\n\nWrong answer Dema rats in charge there job",
">\n\nIt would require Bobo, EmptyG, and PizzaGaetz to do math, and there are a lot of digits in these figures.",
">\n\nThe will find it just under the better Obama care plan and their plan for immigration reform. Back in some closet with the binder full of women. (and some secret stuff folders)",
">\n\nThe Republicans are going to need a serious distraction to get out of this.\nThey have no clue on how to balance the budget, nor do they care.\nThey don’t have the power to cut taxes for the wealthy and say it’s for the greater good of the country anymore.",
">\n\nThey will have it in two weeks, honest.",
">\n\nIf they do oblige, Biden and the democrats had better read it twice and read it good to make sure there's nothing shady going on before signing anything. \nThe 2023 appropriations Omnibus signed in December prematurely ended the Pandemic EBT program which is going to result in a massive SNAP cut for millions of people in more than half of the country starting in March. I have to assume that was an oversight or a concession due to the timeline since the democrats signed it. I don't want anything like that happening again here. It is unacceptable."
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I know the budget was passed in December. However, I was under the impression that republicans want cuts to the budget in exchange for raising the debt ceiling. I'm not sure if they intend to amend the budget or they want the concessions going forward, but when it comes time to sign the legislation, the democrats should read everything carefully.
Millions are about to be pushed off a hunger cliff in March when the Pandemic EBT appropriations run out, and in April millions more are going to lose Medicaid. All of this while we're still dealing with massive price hikes and the pandemic.
We don't need any more clandestine cuts to the safety net. | [
"It blows my mind Republicans have been campaigning on cutting Social Security, and Medicare and junk that Boomers are now preparing to get or are already getting, and Boomers still support them completely.",
">\n\nI always assumed any cuts would be geared at future benefits for people that are only just starting to pay in.\nAnd one might think, \"well why would people want to deny others of a benefit that they enjoy themselves\", but we already know the answer.",
">\n\nI know I'm in the minority as an elder millennial, I've been working for the past 25 years with no vacations and smart investments so I am more or less financially set.\nBut if social security is cut for my generation I will quit my job on the spot. I'm not going to pay in one more dime. Fuck these boomers who want to destroy the future to enrich themselves.",
">\n\nThat fact that you mentioned no vacations to be financially sound scares me. Don’t do that… there is zero guarantee you’ll make it to retirement age in shape to enjoy it. Enjoy life now",
">\n\nGenX here that followed the same strategy. My health is fucked. \nOn the bright side, I've probably saved enough for retirement because I'm going to die at my desk before I'm 60.",
">\n\nNot too late to change and start enjoying things now. Ive probably fucked myself over on retirement and that sucks but my body is failing hard and fast and I’m not even old age. I’m so glad I did a lot in my 20s and 30s because I am scared I’ll not make it to 50, let alone 60",
">\n\nNo friends and no interests. And most of my money is in long-term retirement. \nPlus, my medical bills would wipe me out if I quit my job.",
">\n\nAs someone else with no friends or interests I feel this\nExcept I have no investments.",
">\n\n“We’ve already begun work on a comprehensive budget, titled, ‘We hate Democrats Just Because.’ You’ll have it in two weeks.”",
">\n\n\"2 minutes, Turkish\"",
">\n\nIt was 2 minutes 5 minutes ago",
">\n\n\nA Republican budget proposal, the advisers said, should specify whether Republicans would pursue savings through cuts to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, health insurance subsidies, research or public safety spending.\n\nIn other words, you can’t just yell “stop the woke budget!” You have to point out exactly what money is allocated to those causes and then justify why.\nWe all know they won’t do this because they have nothing to point to. So they’ll decry “woke budget!” until the summer and then they will fuck over the country for cheap culture war points.",
">\n\nIt’s absolutely ridiculous. For the past decade at least, Republicans only goal has been to destroy faith in our institutions so they can point out how broken it is and how we need to vote them in to fix it. They are 100% willing to let the government default so they can point to it and say it’s all democrats fault. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. Their constituents religiously watch a single “news” source that tells them exactly what to believe.",
">\n\nWhile ironically calling everyone else around them sheep. Sighhh",
">\n\n“We will block the government from paying debts until you cut spending 😈 What do you think of that Sleepy Joe?”\n“What spending are you going to cut?”\n“Medicare and social securi- uh- I mean no, NO WE WON’T DO THAT! We’ll cut uh… uh… educa- no… uh… the military budg- ahhh our lobbyists need that… we’re gonna cut… something WOKE!”\n“Okay send me a budget.”\n“agggghhhh FUCK YOU JOE!! FUCK YOU!”\nLoving this new GOP that is both toothless and dumb.",
">\n\nThey’re dumb but they aren’t toothless. They can still crater the economy or force this into the (corrupt and right wing) courts and come out with a win.",
">\n\nThere is no world where the debt ceiling doesn’t get raised. It will be raised. The GOP just wants to embarass themselves a bit beforehand it seems",
">\n\nYou’re going to be wrong. They’re that stupid",
">\n\nIn order for the debt ceiling to not be raised, and the US to default on its loans, the Republicans will need almost all their congresspeople to remain opposed to raising it. Even as it causes a recession and blows up all their stock portfolios. \nThe debt ceiling will be raised. But it doesn’t need to be for 6 months. The treasury says it can take extraordinary measures to\nmove money around and pay off debts until June. So the Republicans might just keep refusing to raise the debt ceiling and make a show out of it for a few months.",
">\n\nThat would dominate the news cycles. Yawn.",
">\n\nIt will be produced right after their very beautiful health care plan.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for infrastructure week",
">\n\nInfrastructure week is done. By democrats of course.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"Set Obfuscate Shield to maximum deflection power!\"",
">\n\nLet’s be real, the Republican budget is a picture of Biden they drew a penis on with a Sharpie.",
">\n\nBut they drew it exaggeratedly large so they can see the joke. And now they unironically call him Big Dick Biden because they think he's acting like a huge dick.",
">\n\nTraceable accountability is garlic to the GOP vampire.",
">\n\nDems: \"Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"No!\"\nDems: \"Kevin, be serious here . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"I doan wanna!\nDems: \"C'mon now, Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"You can't make me!!! Just give me what my handlers want or I'm gonna turn on the space lasers!!!\"\n\"Pew! Pew! Pew!\" the Speaker added.",
">\n\nGOP: We want cut waste, fraud and abuse. \nPrez: okay, show us specifics on what you think should be cut.\nGOP: Waste, Fraud and Abuse!\nThey don’t want provide specific answers, because those will be unpopular. Biden asking for specifics, so he can hammer them on those specifics.",
">\n\nExactly and McCarthy is in an impossible position since he had to agree to a rules change in the House that would let a single member launch a challenge to his speakership. Hence his answer on Twitter which you nicely parroted. “Mr. President,” he wrote, “I received your staff’s memo. I’m not interested in political games. I’m coming to negotiate for the American people.”",
">\n\nGoing into a negotiation with a plan? Does uncle Joe even know republicans?",
">\n\nPresident Joe knows that there isn't a single Republican in Congress who can even fake a detailed budget thing in Word/PDF",
">\n\nThey're going to copy and paste last year's budget, and just reduce everything they don't like.",
">\n\nThen they need to say in detail everything they don't like and by how much they would like to reduce it.",
">\n\nHmm... a detailed budget you say?\n|Budget 2024|Amount|\n:--|:--|\n|Wokeness|$0|\n|Awesomeness|$ALL|\nWhy yes, I'd love a prestigious committee assignment. I'm thinking... chair of Ways and Means? Thanks, Kev!!",
">\n\nChatGOP. I’m calling it now.",
">\n\nIf we could actually just go ahead and replace the entire Republican Party with ChatGPT actually, that would be a step up. At least the AI does it’s job. The GOP is the real do-nothing party.",
">\n\nHe wants them to put in writing all the deeply unpopular demands they are making so no one can deny it later on.",
">\n\n“Curses! Foiled Again!” - Kevin McCarthy",
">\n\nGod. McCarthy is so bad at this.",
">\n\nGood move. He knows how difficult it will be for them to produce one, and even if they are capable of spitting something out, it will likely be unpopular and it will have further stressed their internal divisions.",
">\n\nSummary:\nWe need to cut spending on welfare, infrastructure, and local projects in your area, and futher increase handouts to the 1% and corporations and fatten up the military to prepare for more immoral wars like the Iraq War we blatantly lied our way into. \n-Signed The GOP.",
">\n\nYou are dead on. Now it's all about how they shove this pill down their voter's throats without them getting upset.",
">\n\nIt's hilarious that you have to remind the Republicans to make sure they bring an agenda to the meeting for the things they want.",
">\n\nLooks like the Republicans may have caught another car.",
">\n\nYou mean with like numbers and stuff??? That's a tall order from this bunch of dropouts.",
">\n\n\nFor Debt Ceiling Negotiation\n\nExcuse me?",
">\n\nBut that involves actual work, instead of just shit-talking the Dems.",
">\n\nGuessing the Republicans will produce nothing or something that is completely ridiculous. Republicans remind me of the kid on the school group project who refuses to work with the group and then when the presentation is due they say \"Well that was a shit show, I could have done way better just by myself.\"",
">\n\nHope the White House provided them with a coloring book and crayons.",
">\n\nIt'll be as detailed as Trump's healthcare plan",
">\n\nEvery step of the way has been glaring missteps on the part of republicans.",
">\n\nLol, no that actual would require them to do something, and they only love doing nothing or taking people rights…… if it doesn’t involve those two, forget it.",
">\n\nWhat's stopping the Republicans from just giving a deliberately BS budget? They're just going to lie to Biden lmao",
">\n\nWhat's stopping them is public attention. They can lie if they want, but the current administration is telling Republicans that whatever they say will be in public discussion.",
">\n\nWhen has that actually worked? \nI really, really really hate the mindset on this subreddit that you can shame the GOP into behaving themselves.\nThe Republicans OPENLY VIOLATE FEDERAL LAW ON A REGULAR BASIS WITH NO CONSEQUENCES. Who is holding them accountable? I'm getting sick and tired of this.",
">\n\n\nWhen has that actually worked? \n\nIt's never done. How often do you hear the actual conversations they have, and the plans they make? \n\nmindset on this subreddit that you can shame the GOP into behaving themselves.\n\nI'm not the subreddit, and I don't believe that at all. I treat them as they are, the end. I don't have to shame them, just like I don't have to accept their bullshit.\nI hold them accountable when I deal with them. Can't speak for everyone else though.",
">\n\nUntil I see the federal authorities mass arrest the entire GOP and declare the Republican Party a terrorist organization, they're not doing nearly enough",
">\n\n\nUntil I see the federal authorities mass arrest the entire GOP and declare the Republican Party a terrorist organization, they're not doing nearly enough\n\nI'm not going anywhere near that far. I'm just a person and I'm going to do what I can on the matter.",
">\n\nI'm not asking you, God damn lmao. Where in my comment did I explicitly ask you to personally arrest the entire GOP? I'm saying what I want to happen.\nYou're being really pearl-clutchy and overly finicky for no reason. I'm not trying to interrogate or grill you.",
">\n\n\nI'm not asking you, God damn lmao. Where in my comment did I explicitly ask you to personally arrest the entire GOP? I'm saying what I want to happen.\nYou're being really pearl-clutchy and overly finicky for no reason. I'm not trying to interrogate or grill you.\n\nGood for you.",
">\n\nSo what happened to no negotiations?",
">\n\nThere should be a negotiation on the federal budget. The house is directly responsible for creating the spending bill. It's one of their primary jobs. \nI think the \"no negotiations\" was around deciding not to pay outstanding debts. There's no reason for Biden to negotiate on that because the House already passed the bills authorizing the spending.\nI think it is probably valuable to force Republicans to do a minimum amount of work if they don't want to pay the bills, even if he doesn't expect to agree to compromises around not paying the budget based on it. I personally doubt they have thought any of it through in detail. Why would they? The last Tax Cuts and Jobs Act was riddled with errors and was written in the margins at 3am... and that was their more reasonable Senate reps.",
">\n\nWhy do Democratic continue to use the language if a budget negotiation? This is not a budget negotiation! Yes, Dems need to force the GOP to declare what it is they are actually proposing to cut but Democrats need to educate the public about the process of the debt ceiling and not allow the GOP to conflate budget negotiations with paying for debts already incurred. Voters are smart enough to understand the difference",
">\n\nI truly don't think they are. 23% of voters in his district want Santos to stay and be allowed to represent them when everything that came before was a lie.\nHow on earth do you think that the average voter has any intelligence when 23% of a district thinks a scam artist should stay.",
">\n\nWell to me that means a majority of the people in Santos’s district don’t want him to stay and they do understand why he should go, even in a district that voted for him in the first place. The GOP is hopeless at this point so even those that do understand, don’t care but the last election proved that there are more people in the country that do care about the welfare of the country than those that don’t. The GOP knows that’s true. That’s why they work so hard to lie and cheat and deprive voters of the right to vote. So I have hope that if the Dems can get the truth out and show the contrast, Americans will do the right thing",
">\n\nWrong answer Dema rats in charge there job",
">\n\nIt would require Bobo, EmptyG, and PizzaGaetz to do math, and there are a lot of digits in these figures.",
">\n\nThe will find it just under the better Obama care plan and their plan for immigration reform. Back in some closet with the binder full of women. (and some secret stuff folders)",
">\n\nThe Republicans are going to need a serious distraction to get out of this.\nThey have no clue on how to balance the budget, nor do they care.\nThey don’t have the power to cut taxes for the wealthy and say it’s for the greater good of the country anymore.",
">\n\nThey will have it in two weeks, honest.",
">\n\nIf they do oblige, Biden and the democrats had better read it twice and read it good to make sure there's nothing shady going on before signing anything. \nThe 2023 appropriations Omnibus signed in December prematurely ended the Pandemic EBT program which is going to result in a massive SNAP cut for millions of people in more than half of the country starting in March. I have to assume that was an oversight or a concession due to the timeline since the democrats signed it. I don't want anything like that happening again here. It is unacceptable.",
">\n\nBudget was passed into law in December. This is to raise the debt ceiling to pay for the budget. . .that was passed. \nI think Biden asking for a budget is just to keep them busy."
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When it's time for the idiots with the big mouths to put up - guess what happens. | [
"It blows my mind Republicans have been campaigning on cutting Social Security, and Medicare and junk that Boomers are now preparing to get or are already getting, and Boomers still support them completely.",
">\n\nI always assumed any cuts would be geared at future benefits for people that are only just starting to pay in.\nAnd one might think, \"well why would people want to deny others of a benefit that they enjoy themselves\", but we already know the answer.",
">\n\nI know I'm in the minority as an elder millennial, I've been working for the past 25 years with no vacations and smart investments so I am more or less financially set.\nBut if social security is cut for my generation I will quit my job on the spot. I'm not going to pay in one more dime. Fuck these boomers who want to destroy the future to enrich themselves.",
">\n\nThat fact that you mentioned no vacations to be financially sound scares me. Don’t do that… there is zero guarantee you’ll make it to retirement age in shape to enjoy it. Enjoy life now",
">\n\nGenX here that followed the same strategy. My health is fucked. \nOn the bright side, I've probably saved enough for retirement because I'm going to die at my desk before I'm 60.",
">\n\nNot too late to change and start enjoying things now. Ive probably fucked myself over on retirement and that sucks but my body is failing hard and fast and I’m not even old age. I’m so glad I did a lot in my 20s and 30s because I am scared I’ll not make it to 50, let alone 60",
">\n\nNo friends and no interests. And most of my money is in long-term retirement. \nPlus, my medical bills would wipe me out if I quit my job.",
">\n\nAs someone else with no friends or interests I feel this\nExcept I have no investments.",
">\n\n“We’ve already begun work on a comprehensive budget, titled, ‘We hate Democrats Just Because.’ You’ll have it in two weeks.”",
">\n\n\"2 minutes, Turkish\"",
">\n\nIt was 2 minutes 5 minutes ago",
">\n\n\nA Republican budget proposal, the advisers said, should specify whether Republicans would pursue savings through cuts to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, health insurance subsidies, research or public safety spending.\n\nIn other words, you can’t just yell “stop the woke budget!” You have to point out exactly what money is allocated to those causes and then justify why.\nWe all know they won’t do this because they have nothing to point to. So they’ll decry “woke budget!” until the summer and then they will fuck over the country for cheap culture war points.",
">\n\nIt’s absolutely ridiculous. For the past decade at least, Republicans only goal has been to destroy faith in our institutions so they can point out how broken it is and how we need to vote them in to fix it. They are 100% willing to let the government default so they can point to it and say it’s all democrats fault. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. Their constituents religiously watch a single “news” source that tells them exactly what to believe.",
">\n\nWhile ironically calling everyone else around them sheep. Sighhh",
">\n\n“We will block the government from paying debts until you cut spending 😈 What do you think of that Sleepy Joe?”\n“What spending are you going to cut?”\n“Medicare and social securi- uh- I mean no, NO WE WON’T DO THAT! We’ll cut uh… uh… educa- no… uh… the military budg- ahhh our lobbyists need that… we’re gonna cut… something WOKE!”\n“Okay send me a budget.”\n“agggghhhh FUCK YOU JOE!! FUCK YOU!”\nLoving this new GOP that is both toothless and dumb.",
">\n\nThey’re dumb but they aren’t toothless. They can still crater the economy or force this into the (corrupt and right wing) courts and come out with a win.",
">\n\nThere is no world where the debt ceiling doesn’t get raised. It will be raised. The GOP just wants to embarass themselves a bit beforehand it seems",
">\n\nYou’re going to be wrong. They’re that stupid",
">\n\nIn order for the debt ceiling to not be raised, and the US to default on its loans, the Republicans will need almost all their congresspeople to remain opposed to raising it. Even as it causes a recession and blows up all their stock portfolios. \nThe debt ceiling will be raised. But it doesn’t need to be for 6 months. The treasury says it can take extraordinary measures to\nmove money around and pay off debts until June. So the Republicans might just keep refusing to raise the debt ceiling and make a show out of it for a few months.",
">\n\nThat would dominate the news cycles. Yawn.",
">\n\nIt will be produced right after their very beautiful health care plan.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for infrastructure week",
">\n\nInfrastructure week is done. By democrats of course.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"Set Obfuscate Shield to maximum deflection power!\"",
">\n\nLet’s be real, the Republican budget is a picture of Biden they drew a penis on with a Sharpie.",
">\n\nBut they drew it exaggeratedly large so they can see the joke. And now they unironically call him Big Dick Biden because they think he's acting like a huge dick.",
">\n\nTraceable accountability is garlic to the GOP vampire.",
">\n\nDems: \"Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"No!\"\nDems: \"Kevin, be serious here . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"I doan wanna!\nDems: \"C'mon now, Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"You can't make me!!! Just give me what my handlers want or I'm gonna turn on the space lasers!!!\"\n\"Pew! Pew! Pew!\" the Speaker added.",
">\n\nGOP: We want cut waste, fraud and abuse. \nPrez: okay, show us specifics on what you think should be cut.\nGOP: Waste, Fraud and Abuse!\nThey don’t want provide specific answers, because those will be unpopular. Biden asking for specifics, so he can hammer them on those specifics.",
">\n\nExactly and McCarthy is in an impossible position since he had to agree to a rules change in the House that would let a single member launch a challenge to his speakership. Hence his answer on Twitter which you nicely parroted. “Mr. President,” he wrote, “I received your staff’s memo. I’m not interested in political games. I’m coming to negotiate for the American people.”",
">\n\nGoing into a negotiation with a plan? Does uncle Joe even know republicans?",
">\n\nPresident Joe knows that there isn't a single Republican in Congress who can even fake a detailed budget thing in Word/PDF",
">\n\nThey're going to copy and paste last year's budget, and just reduce everything they don't like.",
">\n\nThen they need to say in detail everything they don't like and by how much they would like to reduce it.",
">\n\nHmm... a detailed budget you say?\n|Budget 2024|Amount|\n:--|:--|\n|Wokeness|$0|\n|Awesomeness|$ALL|\nWhy yes, I'd love a prestigious committee assignment. I'm thinking... chair of Ways and Means? Thanks, Kev!!",
">\n\nChatGOP. I’m calling it now.",
">\n\nIf we could actually just go ahead and replace the entire Republican Party with ChatGPT actually, that would be a step up. At least the AI does it’s job. The GOP is the real do-nothing party.",
">\n\nHe wants them to put in writing all the deeply unpopular demands they are making so no one can deny it later on.",
">\n\n“Curses! Foiled Again!” - Kevin McCarthy",
">\n\nGod. McCarthy is so bad at this.",
">\n\nGood move. He knows how difficult it will be for them to produce one, and even if they are capable of spitting something out, it will likely be unpopular and it will have further stressed their internal divisions.",
">\n\nSummary:\nWe need to cut spending on welfare, infrastructure, and local projects in your area, and futher increase handouts to the 1% and corporations and fatten up the military to prepare for more immoral wars like the Iraq War we blatantly lied our way into. \n-Signed The GOP.",
">\n\nYou are dead on. Now it's all about how they shove this pill down their voter's throats without them getting upset.",
">\n\nIt's hilarious that you have to remind the Republicans to make sure they bring an agenda to the meeting for the things they want.",
">\n\nLooks like the Republicans may have caught another car.",
">\n\nYou mean with like numbers and stuff??? That's a tall order from this bunch of dropouts.",
">\n\n\nFor Debt Ceiling Negotiation\n\nExcuse me?",
">\n\nBut that involves actual work, instead of just shit-talking the Dems.",
">\n\nGuessing the Republicans will produce nothing or something that is completely ridiculous. Republicans remind me of the kid on the school group project who refuses to work with the group and then when the presentation is due they say \"Well that was a shit show, I could have done way better just by myself.\"",
">\n\nHope the White House provided them with a coloring book and crayons.",
">\n\nIt'll be as detailed as Trump's healthcare plan",
">\n\nEvery step of the way has been glaring missteps on the part of republicans.",
">\n\nLol, no that actual would require them to do something, and they only love doing nothing or taking people rights…… if it doesn’t involve those two, forget it.",
">\n\nWhat's stopping the Republicans from just giving a deliberately BS budget? They're just going to lie to Biden lmao",
">\n\nWhat's stopping them is public attention. They can lie if they want, but the current administration is telling Republicans that whatever they say will be in public discussion.",
">\n\nWhen has that actually worked? \nI really, really really hate the mindset on this subreddit that you can shame the GOP into behaving themselves.\nThe Republicans OPENLY VIOLATE FEDERAL LAW ON A REGULAR BASIS WITH NO CONSEQUENCES. Who is holding them accountable? I'm getting sick and tired of this.",
">\n\n\nWhen has that actually worked? \n\nIt's never done. How often do you hear the actual conversations they have, and the plans they make? \n\nmindset on this subreddit that you can shame the GOP into behaving themselves.\n\nI'm not the subreddit, and I don't believe that at all. I treat them as they are, the end. I don't have to shame them, just like I don't have to accept their bullshit.\nI hold them accountable when I deal with them. Can't speak for everyone else though.",
">\n\nUntil I see the federal authorities mass arrest the entire GOP and declare the Republican Party a terrorist organization, they're not doing nearly enough",
">\n\n\nUntil I see the federal authorities mass arrest the entire GOP and declare the Republican Party a terrorist organization, they're not doing nearly enough\n\nI'm not going anywhere near that far. I'm just a person and I'm going to do what I can on the matter.",
">\n\nI'm not asking you, God damn lmao. Where in my comment did I explicitly ask you to personally arrest the entire GOP? I'm saying what I want to happen.\nYou're being really pearl-clutchy and overly finicky for no reason. I'm not trying to interrogate or grill you.",
">\n\n\nI'm not asking you, God damn lmao. Where in my comment did I explicitly ask you to personally arrest the entire GOP? I'm saying what I want to happen.\nYou're being really pearl-clutchy and overly finicky for no reason. I'm not trying to interrogate or grill you.\n\nGood for you.",
">\n\nSo what happened to no negotiations?",
">\n\nThere should be a negotiation on the federal budget. The house is directly responsible for creating the spending bill. It's one of their primary jobs. \nI think the \"no negotiations\" was around deciding not to pay outstanding debts. There's no reason for Biden to negotiate on that because the House already passed the bills authorizing the spending.\nI think it is probably valuable to force Republicans to do a minimum amount of work if they don't want to pay the bills, even if he doesn't expect to agree to compromises around not paying the budget based on it. I personally doubt they have thought any of it through in detail. Why would they? The last Tax Cuts and Jobs Act was riddled with errors and was written in the margins at 3am... and that was their more reasonable Senate reps.",
">\n\nWhy do Democratic continue to use the language if a budget negotiation? This is not a budget negotiation! Yes, Dems need to force the GOP to declare what it is they are actually proposing to cut but Democrats need to educate the public about the process of the debt ceiling and not allow the GOP to conflate budget negotiations with paying for debts already incurred. Voters are smart enough to understand the difference",
">\n\nI truly don't think they are. 23% of voters in his district want Santos to stay and be allowed to represent them when everything that came before was a lie.\nHow on earth do you think that the average voter has any intelligence when 23% of a district thinks a scam artist should stay.",
">\n\nWell to me that means a majority of the people in Santos’s district don’t want him to stay and they do understand why he should go, even in a district that voted for him in the first place. The GOP is hopeless at this point so even those that do understand, don’t care but the last election proved that there are more people in the country that do care about the welfare of the country than those that don’t. The GOP knows that’s true. That’s why they work so hard to lie and cheat and deprive voters of the right to vote. So I have hope that if the Dems can get the truth out and show the contrast, Americans will do the right thing",
">\n\nWrong answer Dema rats in charge there job",
">\n\nIt would require Bobo, EmptyG, and PizzaGaetz to do math, and there are a lot of digits in these figures.",
">\n\nThe will find it just under the better Obama care plan and their plan for immigration reform. Back in some closet with the binder full of women. (and some secret stuff folders)",
">\n\nThe Republicans are going to need a serious distraction to get out of this.\nThey have no clue on how to balance the budget, nor do they care.\nThey don’t have the power to cut taxes for the wealthy and say it’s for the greater good of the country anymore.",
">\n\nThey will have it in two weeks, honest.",
">\n\nIf they do oblige, Biden and the democrats had better read it twice and read it good to make sure there's nothing shady going on before signing anything. \nThe 2023 appropriations Omnibus signed in December prematurely ended the Pandemic EBT program which is going to result in a massive SNAP cut for millions of people in more than half of the country starting in March. I have to assume that was an oversight or a concession due to the timeline since the democrats signed it. I don't want anything like that happening again here. It is unacceptable.",
">\n\nBudget was passed into law in December. This is to raise the debt ceiling to pay for the budget. . .that was passed. \nI think Biden asking for a budget is just to keep them busy.",
">\n\nI know the budget was passed in December. However, I was under the impression that republicans want cuts to the budget in exchange for raising the debt ceiling. I'm not sure if they intend to amend the budget or they want the concessions going forward, but when it comes time to sign the legislation, the democrats should read everything carefully.\nMillions are about to be pushed off a hunger cliff in March when the Pandemic EBT appropriations run out, and in April millions more are going to lose Medicaid. All of this while we're still dealing with massive price hikes and the pandemic.\nWe don't need any more clandestine cuts to the safety net."
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Idk this why biden and the mainstream dems are so disappointing. Just tell McCarthy no. They can pass a bill to extend the debt ceiling. Everyone agrees letting the dollar become worthless overnight is a bad idea. There's zero negotiation needed. | [
"It blows my mind Republicans have been campaigning on cutting Social Security, and Medicare and junk that Boomers are now preparing to get or are already getting, and Boomers still support them completely.",
">\n\nI always assumed any cuts would be geared at future benefits for people that are only just starting to pay in.\nAnd one might think, \"well why would people want to deny others of a benefit that they enjoy themselves\", but we already know the answer.",
">\n\nI know I'm in the minority as an elder millennial, I've been working for the past 25 years with no vacations and smart investments so I am more or less financially set.\nBut if social security is cut for my generation I will quit my job on the spot. I'm not going to pay in one more dime. Fuck these boomers who want to destroy the future to enrich themselves.",
">\n\nThat fact that you mentioned no vacations to be financially sound scares me. Don’t do that… there is zero guarantee you’ll make it to retirement age in shape to enjoy it. Enjoy life now",
">\n\nGenX here that followed the same strategy. My health is fucked. \nOn the bright side, I've probably saved enough for retirement because I'm going to die at my desk before I'm 60.",
">\n\nNot too late to change and start enjoying things now. Ive probably fucked myself over on retirement and that sucks but my body is failing hard and fast and I’m not even old age. I’m so glad I did a lot in my 20s and 30s because I am scared I’ll not make it to 50, let alone 60",
">\n\nNo friends and no interests. And most of my money is in long-term retirement. \nPlus, my medical bills would wipe me out if I quit my job.",
">\n\nAs someone else with no friends or interests I feel this\nExcept I have no investments.",
">\n\n“We’ve already begun work on a comprehensive budget, titled, ‘We hate Democrats Just Because.’ You’ll have it in two weeks.”",
">\n\n\"2 minutes, Turkish\"",
">\n\nIt was 2 minutes 5 minutes ago",
">\n\n\nA Republican budget proposal, the advisers said, should specify whether Republicans would pursue savings through cuts to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, health insurance subsidies, research or public safety spending.\n\nIn other words, you can’t just yell “stop the woke budget!” You have to point out exactly what money is allocated to those causes and then justify why.\nWe all know they won’t do this because they have nothing to point to. So they’ll decry “woke budget!” until the summer and then they will fuck over the country for cheap culture war points.",
">\n\nIt’s absolutely ridiculous. For the past decade at least, Republicans only goal has been to destroy faith in our institutions so they can point out how broken it is and how we need to vote them in to fix it. They are 100% willing to let the government default so they can point to it and say it’s all democrats fault. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. Their constituents religiously watch a single “news” source that tells them exactly what to believe.",
">\n\nWhile ironically calling everyone else around them sheep. Sighhh",
">\n\n“We will block the government from paying debts until you cut spending 😈 What do you think of that Sleepy Joe?”\n“What spending are you going to cut?”\n“Medicare and social securi- uh- I mean no, NO WE WON’T DO THAT! We’ll cut uh… uh… educa- no… uh… the military budg- ahhh our lobbyists need that… we’re gonna cut… something WOKE!”\n“Okay send me a budget.”\n“agggghhhh FUCK YOU JOE!! FUCK YOU!”\nLoving this new GOP that is both toothless and dumb.",
">\n\nThey’re dumb but they aren’t toothless. They can still crater the economy or force this into the (corrupt and right wing) courts and come out with a win.",
">\n\nThere is no world where the debt ceiling doesn’t get raised. It will be raised. The GOP just wants to embarass themselves a bit beforehand it seems",
">\n\nYou’re going to be wrong. They’re that stupid",
">\n\nIn order for the debt ceiling to not be raised, and the US to default on its loans, the Republicans will need almost all their congresspeople to remain opposed to raising it. Even as it causes a recession and blows up all their stock portfolios. \nThe debt ceiling will be raised. But it doesn’t need to be for 6 months. The treasury says it can take extraordinary measures to\nmove money around and pay off debts until June. So the Republicans might just keep refusing to raise the debt ceiling and make a show out of it for a few months.",
">\n\nThat would dominate the news cycles. Yawn.",
">\n\nIt will be produced right after their very beautiful health care plan.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for infrastructure week",
">\n\nInfrastructure week is done. By democrats of course.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"Set Obfuscate Shield to maximum deflection power!\"",
">\n\nLet’s be real, the Republican budget is a picture of Biden they drew a penis on with a Sharpie.",
">\n\nBut they drew it exaggeratedly large so they can see the joke. And now they unironically call him Big Dick Biden because they think he's acting like a huge dick.",
">\n\nTraceable accountability is garlic to the GOP vampire.",
">\n\nDems: \"Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"No!\"\nDems: \"Kevin, be serious here . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"I doan wanna!\nDems: \"C'mon now, Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"You can't make me!!! Just give me what my handlers want or I'm gonna turn on the space lasers!!!\"\n\"Pew! Pew! Pew!\" the Speaker added.",
">\n\nGOP: We want cut waste, fraud and abuse. \nPrez: okay, show us specifics on what you think should be cut.\nGOP: Waste, Fraud and Abuse!\nThey don’t want provide specific answers, because those will be unpopular. Biden asking for specifics, so he can hammer them on those specifics.",
">\n\nExactly and McCarthy is in an impossible position since he had to agree to a rules change in the House that would let a single member launch a challenge to his speakership. Hence his answer on Twitter which you nicely parroted. “Mr. President,” he wrote, “I received your staff’s memo. I’m not interested in political games. I’m coming to negotiate for the American people.”",
">\n\nGoing into a negotiation with a plan? Does uncle Joe even know republicans?",
">\n\nPresident Joe knows that there isn't a single Republican in Congress who can even fake a detailed budget thing in Word/PDF",
">\n\nThey're going to copy and paste last year's budget, and just reduce everything they don't like.",
">\n\nThen they need to say in detail everything they don't like and by how much they would like to reduce it.",
">\n\nHmm... a detailed budget you say?\n|Budget 2024|Amount|\n:--|:--|\n|Wokeness|$0|\n|Awesomeness|$ALL|\nWhy yes, I'd love a prestigious committee assignment. I'm thinking... chair of Ways and Means? Thanks, Kev!!",
">\n\nChatGOP. I’m calling it now.",
">\n\nIf we could actually just go ahead and replace the entire Republican Party with ChatGPT actually, that would be a step up. At least the AI does it’s job. The GOP is the real do-nothing party.",
">\n\nHe wants them to put in writing all the deeply unpopular demands they are making so no one can deny it later on.",
">\n\n“Curses! Foiled Again!” - Kevin McCarthy",
">\n\nGod. McCarthy is so bad at this.",
">\n\nGood move. He knows how difficult it will be for them to produce one, and even if they are capable of spitting something out, it will likely be unpopular and it will have further stressed their internal divisions.",
">\n\nSummary:\nWe need to cut spending on welfare, infrastructure, and local projects in your area, and futher increase handouts to the 1% and corporations and fatten up the military to prepare for more immoral wars like the Iraq War we blatantly lied our way into. \n-Signed The GOP.",
">\n\nYou are dead on. Now it's all about how they shove this pill down their voter's throats without them getting upset.",
">\n\nIt's hilarious that you have to remind the Republicans to make sure they bring an agenda to the meeting for the things they want.",
">\n\nLooks like the Republicans may have caught another car.",
">\n\nYou mean with like numbers and stuff??? That's a tall order from this bunch of dropouts.",
">\n\n\nFor Debt Ceiling Negotiation\n\nExcuse me?",
">\n\nBut that involves actual work, instead of just shit-talking the Dems.",
">\n\nGuessing the Republicans will produce nothing or something that is completely ridiculous. Republicans remind me of the kid on the school group project who refuses to work with the group and then when the presentation is due they say \"Well that was a shit show, I could have done way better just by myself.\"",
">\n\nHope the White House provided them with a coloring book and crayons.",
">\n\nIt'll be as detailed as Trump's healthcare plan",
">\n\nEvery step of the way has been glaring missteps on the part of republicans.",
">\n\nLol, no that actual would require them to do something, and they only love doing nothing or taking people rights…… if it doesn’t involve those two, forget it.",
">\n\nWhat's stopping the Republicans from just giving a deliberately BS budget? They're just going to lie to Biden lmao",
">\n\nWhat's stopping them is public attention. They can lie if they want, but the current administration is telling Republicans that whatever they say will be in public discussion.",
">\n\nWhen has that actually worked? \nI really, really really hate the mindset on this subreddit that you can shame the GOP into behaving themselves.\nThe Republicans OPENLY VIOLATE FEDERAL LAW ON A REGULAR BASIS WITH NO CONSEQUENCES. Who is holding them accountable? I'm getting sick and tired of this.",
">\n\n\nWhen has that actually worked? \n\nIt's never done. How often do you hear the actual conversations they have, and the plans they make? \n\nmindset on this subreddit that you can shame the GOP into behaving themselves.\n\nI'm not the subreddit, and I don't believe that at all. I treat them as they are, the end. I don't have to shame them, just like I don't have to accept their bullshit.\nI hold them accountable when I deal with them. Can't speak for everyone else though.",
">\n\nUntil I see the federal authorities mass arrest the entire GOP and declare the Republican Party a terrorist organization, they're not doing nearly enough",
">\n\n\nUntil I see the federal authorities mass arrest the entire GOP and declare the Republican Party a terrorist organization, they're not doing nearly enough\n\nI'm not going anywhere near that far. I'm just a person and I'm going to do what I can on the matter.",
">\n\nI'm not asking you, God damn lmao. Where in my comment did I explicitly ask you to personally arrest the entire GOP? I'm saying what I want to happen.\nYou're being really pearl-clutchy and overly finicky for no reason. I'm not trying to interrogate or grill you.",
">\n\n\nI'm not asking you, God damn lmao. Where in my comment did I explicitly ask you to personally arrest the entire GOP? I'm saying what I want to happen.\nYou're being really pearl-clutchy and overly finicky for no reason. I'm not trying to interrogate or grill you.\n\nGood for you.",
">\n\nSo what happened to no negotiations?",
">\n\nThere should be a negotiation on the federal budget. The house is directly responsible for creating the spending bill. It's one of their primary jobs. \nI think the \"no negotiations\" was around deciding not to pay outstanding debts. There's no reason for Biden to negotiate on that because the House already passed the bills authorizing the spending.\nI think it is probably valuable to force Republicans to do a minimum amount of work if they don't want to pay the bills, even if he doesn't expect to agree to compromises around not paying the budget based on it. I personally doubt they have thought any of it through in detail. Why would they? The last Tax Cuts and Jobs Act was riddled with errors and was written in the margins at 3am... and that was their more reasonable Senate reps.",
">\n\nWhy do Democratic continue to use the language if a budget negotiation? This is not a budget negotiation! Yes, Dems need to force the GOP to declare what it is they are actually proposing to cut but Democrats need to educate the public about the process of the debt ceiling and not allow the GOP to conflate budget negotiations with paying for debts already incurred. Voters are smart enough to understand the difference",
">\n\nI truly don't think they are. 23% of voters in his district want Santos to stay and be allowed to represent them when everything that came before was a lie.\nHow on earth do you think that the average voter has any intelligence when 23% of a district thinks a scam artist should stay.",
">\n\nWell to me that means a majority of the people in Santos’s district don’t want him to stay and they do understand why he should go, even in a district that voted for him in the first place. The GOP is hopeless at this point so even those that do understand, don’t care but the last election proved that there are more people in the country that do care about the welfare of the country than those that don’t. The GOP knows that’s true. That’s why they work so hard to lie and cheat and deprive voters of the right to vote. So I have hope that if the Dems can get the truth out and show the contrast, Americans will do the right thing",
">\n\nWrong answer Dema rats in charge there job",
">\n\nIt would require Bobo, EmptyG, and PizzaGaetz to do math, and there are a lot of digits in these figures.",
">\n\nThe will find it just under the better Obama care plan and their plan for immigration reform. Back in some closet with the binder full of women. (and some secret stuff folders)",
">\n\nThe Republicans are going to need a serious distraction to get out of this.\nThey have no clue on how to balance the budget, nor do they care.\nThey don’t have the power to cut taxes for the wealthy and say it’s for the greater good of the country anymore.",
">\n\nThey will have it in two weeks, honest.",
">\n\nIf they do oblige, Biden and the democrats had better read it twice and read it good to make sure there's nothing shady going on before signing anything. \nThe 2023 appropriations Omnibus signed in December prematurely ended the Pandemic EBT program which is going to result in a massive SNAP cut for millions of people in more than half of the country starting in March. I have to assume that was an oversight or a concession due to the timeline since the democrats signed it. I don't want anything like that happening again here. It is unacceptable.",
">\n\nBudget was passed into law in December. This is to raise the debt ceiling to pay for the budget. . .that was passed. \nI think Biden asking for a budget is just to keep them busy.",
">\n\nI know the budget was passed in December. However, I was under the impression that republicans want cuts to the budget in exchange for raising the debt ceiling. I'm not sure if they intend to amend the budget or they want the concessions going forward, but when it comes time to sign the legislation, the democrats should read everything carefully.\nMillions are about to be pushed off a hunger cliff in March when the Pandemic EBT appropriations run out, and in April millions more are going to lose Medicaid. All of this while we're still dealing with massive price hikes and the pandemic.\nWe don't need any more clandestine cuts to the safety net.",
">\n\nWhen it's time for the idiots with the big mouths to put up - guess what happens."
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The only numbers they will come in with is "an across the board 3% cut" or similar. That way they and their base don't have to think about it too hard. | [
"It blows my mind Republicans have been campaigning on cutting Social Security, and Medicare and junk that Boomers are now preparing to get or are already getting, and Boomers still support them completely.",
">\n\nI always assumed any cuts would be geared at future benefits for people that are only just starting to pay in.\nAnd one might think, \"well why would people want to deny others of a benefit that they enjoy themselves\", but we already know the answer.",
">\n\nI know I'm in the minority as an elder millennial, I've been working for the past 25 years with no vacations and smart investments so I am more or less financially set.\nBut if social security is cut for my generation I will quit my job on the spot. I'm not going to pay in one more dime. Fuck these boomers who want to destroy the future to enrich themselves.",
">\n\nThat fact that you mentioned no vacations to be financially sound scares me. Don’t do that… there is zero guarantee you’ll make it to retirement age in shape to enjoy it. Enjoy life now",
">\n\nGenX here that followed the same strategy. My health is fucked. \nOn the bright side, I've probably saved enough for retirement because I'm going to die at my desk before I'm 60.",
">\n\nNot too late to change and start enjoying things now. Ive probably fucked myself over on retirement and that sucks but my body is failing hard and fast and I’m not even old age. I’m so glad I did a lot in my 20s and 30s because I am scared I’ll not make it to 50, let alone 60",
">\n\nNo friends and no interests. And most of my money is in long-term retirement. \nPlus, my medical bills would wipe me out if I quit my job.",
">\n\nAs someone else with no friends or interests I feel this\nExcept I have no investments.",
">\n\n“We’ve already begun work on a comprehensive budget, titled, ‘We hate Democrats Just Because.’ You’ll have it in two weeks.”",
">\n\n\"2 minutes, Turkish\"",
">\n\nIt was 2 minutes 5 minutes ago",
">\n\n\nA Republican budget proposal, the advisers said, should specify whether Republicans would pursue savings through cuts to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, health insurance subsidies, research or public safety spending.\n\nIn other words, you can’t just yell “stop the woke budget!” You have to point out exactly what money is allocated to those causes and then justify why.\nWe all know they won’t do this because they have nothing to point to. So they’ll decry “woke budget!” until the summer and then they will fuck over the country for cheap culture war points.",
">\n\nIt’s absolutely ridiculous. For the past decade at least, Republicans only goal has been to destroy faith in our institutions so they can point out how broken it is and how we need to vote them in to fix it. They are 100% willing to let the government default so they can point to it and say it’s all democrats fault. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. Their constituents religiously watch a single “news” source that tells them exactly what to believe.",
">\n\nWhile ironically calling everyone else around them sheep. Sighhh",
">\n\n“We will block the government from paying debts until you cut spending 😈 What do you think of that Sleepy Joe?”\n“What spending are you going to cut?”\n“Medicare and social securi- uh- I mean no, NO WE WON’T DO THAT! We’ll cut uh… uh… educa- no… uh… the military budg- ahhh our lobbyists need that… we’re gonna cut… something WOKE!”\n“Okay send me a budget.”\n“agggghhhh FUCK YOU JOE!! FUCK YOU!”\nLoving this new GOP that is both toothless and dumb.",
">\n\nThey’re dumb but they aren’t toothless. They can still crater the economy or force this into the (corrupt and right wing) courts and come out with a win.",
">\n\nThere is no world where the debt ceiling doesn’t get raised. It will be raised. The GOP just wants to embarass themselves a bit beforehand it seems",
">\n\nYou’re going to be wrong. They’re that stupid",
">\n\nIn order for the debt ceiling to not be raised, and the US to default on its loans, the Republicans will need almost all their congresspeople to remain opposed to raising it. Even as it causes a recession and blows up all their stock portfolios. \nThe debt ceiling will be raised. But it doesn’t need to be for 6 months. The treasury says it can take extraordinary measures to\nmove money around and pay off debts until June. So the Republicans might just keep refusing to raise the debt ceiling and make a show out of it for a few months.",
">\n\nThat would dominate the news cycles. Yawn.",
">\n\nIt will be produced right after their very beautiful health care plan.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for infrastructure week",
">\n\nInfrastructure week is done. By democrats of course.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"Set Obfuscate Shield to maximum deflection power!\"",
">\n\nLet’s be real, the Republican budget is a picture of Biden they drew a penis on with a Sharpie.",
">\n\nBut they drew it exaggeratedly large so they can see the joke. And now they unironically call him Big Dick Biden because they think he's acting like a huge dick.",
">\n\nTraceable accountability is garlic to the GOP vampire.",
">\n\nDems: \"Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"No!\"\nDems: \"Kevin, be serious here . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"I doan wanna!\nDems: \"C'mon now, Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"You can't make me!!! Just give me what my handlers want or I'm gonna turn on the space lasers!!!\"\n\"Pew! Pew! Pew!\" the Speaker added.",
">\n\nGOP: We want cut waste, fraud and abuse. \nPrez: okay, show us specifics on what you think should be cut.\nGOP: Waste, Fraud and Abuse!\nThey don’t want provide specific answers, because those will be unpopular. Biden asking for specifics, so he can hammer them on those specifics.",
">\n\nExactly and McCarthy is in an impossible position since he had to agree to a rules change in the House that would let a single member launch a challenge to his speakership. Hence his answer on Twitter which you nicely parroted. “Mr. President,” he wrote, “I received your staff’s memo. I’m not interested in political games. I’m coming to negotiate for the American people.”",
">\n\nGoing into a negotiation with a plan? Does uncle Joe even know republicans?",
">\n\nPresident Joe knows that there isn't a single Republican in Congress who can even fake a detailed budget thing in Word/PDF",
">\n\nThey're going to copy and paste last year's budget, and just reduce everything they don't like.",
">\n\nThen they need to say in detail everything they don't like and by how much they would like to reduce it.",
">\n\nHmm... a detailed budget you say?\n|Budget 2024|Amount|\n:--|:--|\n|Wokeness|$0|\n|Awesomeness|$ALL|\nWhy yes, I'd love a prestigious committee assignment. I'm thinking... chair of Ways and Means? Thanks, Kev!!",
">\n\nChatGOP. I’m calling it now.",
">\n\nIf we could actually just go ahead and replace the entire Republican Party with ChatGPT actually, that would be a step up. At least the AI does it’s job. The GOP is the real do-nothing party.",
">\n\nHe wants them to put in writing all the deeply unpopular demands they are making so no one can deny it later on.",
">\n\n“Curses! Foiled Again!” - Kevin McCarthy",
">\n\nGod. McCarthy is so bad at this.",
">\n\nGood move. He knows how difficult it will be for them to produce one, and even if they are capable of spitting something out, it will likely be unpopular and it will have further stressed their internal divisions.",
">\n\nSummary:\nWe need to cut spending on welfare, infrastructure, and local projects in your area, and futher increase handouts to the 1% and corporations and fatten up the military to prepare for more immoral wars like the Iraq War we blatantly lied our way into. \n-Signed The GOP.",
">\n\nYou are dead on. Now it's all about how they shove this pill down their voter's throats without them getting upset.",
">\n\nIt's hilarious that you have to remind the Republicans to make sure they bring an agenda to the meeting for the things they want.",
">\n\nLooks like the Republicans may have caught another car.",
">\n\nYou mean with like numbers and stuff??? That's a tall order from this bunch of dropouts.",
">\n\n\nFor Debt Ceiling Negotiation\n\nExcuse me?",
">\n\nBut that involves actual work, instead of just shit-talking the Dems.",
">\n\nGuessing the Republicans will produce nothing or something that is completely ridiculous. Republicans remind me of the kid on the school group project who refuses to work with the group and then when the presentation is due they say \"Well that was a shit show, I could have done way better just by myself.\"",
">\n\nHope the White House provided them with a coloring book and crayons.",
">\n\nIt'll be as detailed as Trump's healthcare plan",
">\n\nEvery step of the way has been glaring missteps on the part of republicans.",
">\n\nLol, no that actual would require them to do something, and they only love doing nothing or taking people rights…… if it doesn’t involve those two, forget it.",
">\n\nWhat's stopping the Republicans from just giving a deliberately BS budget? They're just going to lie to Biden lmao",
">\n\nWhat's stopping them is public attention. They can lie if they want, but the current administration is telling Republicans that whatever they say will be in public discussion.",
">\n\nWhen has that actually worked? \nI really, really really hate the mindset on this subreddit that you can shame the GOP into behaving themselves.\nThe Republicans OPENLY VIOLATE FEDERAL LAW ON A REGULAR BASIS WITH NO CONSEQUENCES. Who is holding them accountable? I'm getting sick and tired of this.",
">\n\n\nWhen has that actually worked? \n\nIt's never done. How often do you hear the actual conversations they have, and the plans they make? \n\nmindset on this subreddit that you can shame the GOP into behaving themselves.\n\nI'm not the subreddit, and I don't believe that at all. I treat them as they are, the end. I don't have to shame them, just like I don't have to accept their bullshit.\nI hold them accountable when I deal with them. Can't speak for everyone else though.",
">\n\nUntil I see the federal authorities mass arrest the entire GOP and declare the Republican Party a terrorist organization, they're not doing nearly enough",
">\n\n\nUntil I see the federal authorities mass arrest the entire GOP and declare the Republican Party a terrorist organization, they're not doing nearly enough\n\nI'm not going anywhere near that far. I'm just a person and I'm going to do what I can on the matter.",
">\n\nI'm not asking you, God damn lmao. Where in my comment did I explicitly ask you to personally arrest the entire GOP? I'm saying what I want to happen.\nYou're being really pearl-clutchy and overly finicky for no reason. I'm not trying to interrogate or grill you.",
">\n\n\nI'm not asking you, God damn lmao. Where in my comment did I explicitly ask you to personally arrest the entire GOP? I'm saying what I want to happen.\nYou're being really pearl-clutchy and overly finicky for no reason. I'm not trying to interrogate or grill you.\n\nGood for you.",
">\n\nSo what happened to no negotiations?",
">\n\nThere should be a negotiation on the federal budget. The house is directly responsible for creating the spending bill. It's one of their primary jobs. \nI think the \"no negotiations\" was around deciding not to pay outstanding debts. There's no reason for Biden to negotiate on that because the House already passed the bills authorizing the spending.\nI think it is probably valuable to force Republicans to do a minimum amount of work if they don't want to pay the bills, even if he doesn't expect to agree to compromises around not paying the budget based on it. I personally doubt they have thought any of it through in detail. Why would they? The last Tax Cuts and Jobs Act was riddled with errors and was written in the margins at 3am... and that was their more reasonable Senate reps.",
">\n\nWhy do Democratic continue to use the language if a budget negotiation? This is not a budget negotiation! Yes, Dems need to force the GOP to declare what it is they are actually proposing to cut but Democrats need to educate the public about the process of the debt ceiling and not allow the GOP to conflate budget negotiations with paying for debts already incurred. Voters are smart enough to understand the difference",
">\n\nI truly don't think they are. 23% of voters in his district want Santos to stay and be allowed to represent them when everything that came before was a lie.\nHow on earth do you think that the average voter has any intelligence when 23% of a district thinks a scam artist should stay.",
">\n\nWell to me that means a majority of the people in Santos’s district don’t want him to stay and they do understand why he should go, even in a district that voted for him in the first place. The GOP is hopeless at this point so even those that do understand, don’t care but the last election proved that there are more people in the country that do care about the welfare of the country than those that don’t. The GOP knows that’s true. That’s why they work so hard to lie and cheat and deprive voters of the right to vote. So I have hope that if the Dems can get the truth out and show the contrast, Americans will do the right thing",
">\n\nWrong answer Dema rats in charge there job",
">\n\nIt would require Bobo, EmptyG, and PizzaGaetz to do math, and there are a lot of digits in these figures.",
">\n\nThe will find it just under the better Obama care plan and their plan for immigration reform. Back in some closet with the binder full of women. (and some secret stuff folders)",
">\n\nThe Republicans are going to need a serious distraction to get out of this.\nThey have no clue on how to balance the budget, nor do they care.\nThey don’t have the power to cut taxes for the wealthy and say it’s for the greater good of the country anymore.",
">\n\nThey will have it in two weeks, honest.",
">\n\nIf they do oblige, Biden and the democrats had better read it twice and read it good to make sure there's nothing shady going on before signing anything. \nThe 2023 appropriations Omnibus signed in December prematurely ended the Pandemic EBT program which is going to result in a massive SNAP cut for millions of people in more than half of the country starting in March. I have to assume that was an oversight or a concession due to the timeline since the democrats signed it. I don't want anything like that happening again here. It is unacceptable.",
">\n\nBudget was passed into law in December. This is to raise the debt ceiling to pay for the budget. . .that was passed. \nI think Biden asking for a budget is just to keep them busy.",
">\n\nI know the budget was passed in December. However, I was under the impression that republicans want cuts to the budget in exchange for raising the debt ceiling. I'm not sure if they intend to amend the budget or they want the concessions going forward, but when it comes time to sign the legislation, the democrats should read everything carefully.\nMillions are about to be pushed off a hunger cliff in March when the Pandemic EBT appropriations run out, and in April millions more are going to lose Medicaid. All of this while we're still dealing with massive price hikes and the pandemic.\nWe don't need any more clandestine cuts to the safety net.",
">\n\nWhen it's time for the idiots with the big mouths to put up - guess what happens.",
">\n\nIdk this why biden and the mainstream dems are so disappointing. Just tell McCarthy no. They can pass a bill to extend the debt ceiling. Everyone agrees letting the dollar become worthless overnight is a bad idea. There's zero negotiation needed."
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Lol we’re still waiting from Trump’s infrastructure bill and his healthcare plan. I think they might have a backlog. | [
"It blows my mind Republicans have been campaigning on cutting Social Security, and Medicare and junk that Boomers are now preparing to get or are already getting, and Boomers still support them completely.",
">\n\nI always assumed any cuts would be geared at future benefits for people that are only just starting to pay in.\nAnd one might think, \"well why would people want to deny others of a benefit that they enjoy themselves\", but we already know the answer.",
">\n\nI know I'm in the minority as an elder millennial, I've been working for the past 25 years with no vacations and smart investments so I am more or less financially set.\nBut if social security is cut for my generation I will quit my job on the spot. I'm not going to pay in one more dime. Fuck these boomers who want to destroy the future to enrich themselves.",
">\n\nThat fact that you mentioned no vacations to be financially sound scares me. Don’t do that… there is zero guarantee you’ll make it to retirement age in shape to enjoy it. Enjoy life now",
">\n\nGenX here that followed the same strategy. My health is fucked. \nOn the bright side, I've probably saved enough for retirement because I'm going to die at my desk before I'm 60.",
">\n\nNot too late to change and start enjoying things now. Ive probably fucked myself over on retirement and that sucks but my body is failing hard and fast and I’m not even old age. I’m so glad I did a lot in my 20s and 30s because I am scared I’ll not make it to 50, let alone 60",
">\n\nNo friends and no interests. And most of my money is in long-term retirement. \nPlus, my medical bills would wipe me out if I quit my job.",
">\n\nAs someone else with no friends or interests I feel this\nExcept I have no investments.",
">\n\n“We’ve already begun work on a comprehensive budget, titled, ‘We hate Democrats Just Because.’ You’ll have it in two weeks.”",
">\n\n\"2 minutes, Turkish\"",
">\n\nIt was 2 minutes 5 minutes ago",
">\n\n\nA Republican budget proposal, the advisers said, should specify whether Republicans would pursue savings through cuts to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, health insurance subsidies, research or public safety spending.\n\nIn other words, you can’t just yell “stop the woke budget!” You have to point out exactly what money is allocated to those causes and then justify why.\nWe all know they won’t do this because they have nothing to point to. So they’ll decry “woke budget!” until the summer and then they will fuck over the country for cheap culture war points.",
">\n\nIt’s absolutely ridiculous. For the past decade at least, Republicans only goal has been to destroy faith in our institutions so they can point out how broken it is and how we need to vote them in to fix it. They are 100% willing to let the government default so they can point to it and say it’s all democrats fault. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. Their constituents religiously watch a single “news” source that tells them exactly what to believe.",
">\n\nWhile ironically calling everyone else around them sheep. Sighhh",
">\n\n“We will block the government from paying debts until you cut spending 😈 What do you think of that Sleepy Joe?”\n“What spending are you going to cut?”\n“Medicare and social securi- uh- I mean no, NO WE WON’T DO THAT! We’ll cut uh… uh… educa- no… uh… the military budg- ahhh our lobbyists need that… we’re gonna cut… something WOKE!”\n“Okay send me a budget.”\n“agggghhhh FUCK YOU JOE!! FUCK YOU!”\nLoving this new GOP that is both toothless and dumb.",
">\n\nThey’re dumb but they aren’t toothless. They can still crater the economy or force this into the (corrupt and right wing) courts and come out with a win.",
">\n\nThere is no world where the debt ceiling doesn’t get raised. It will be raised. The GOP just wants to embarass themselves a bit beforehand it seems",
">\n\nYou’re going to be wrong. They’re that stupid",
">\n\nIn order for the debt ceiling to not be raised, and the US to default on its loans, the Republicans will need almost all their congresspeople to remain opposed to raising it. Even as it causes a recession and blows up all their stock portfolios. \nThe debt ceiling will be raised. But it doesn’t need to be for 6 months. The treasury says it can take extraordinary measures to\nmove money around and pay off debts until June. So the Republicans might just keep refusing to raise the debt ceiling and make a show out of it for a few months.",
">\n\nThat would dominate the news cycles. Yawn.",
">\n\nIt will be produced right after their very beautiful health care plan.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for infrastructure week",
">\n\nInfrastructure week is done. By democrats of course.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"Set Obfuscate Shield to maximum deflection power!\"",
">\n\nLet’s be real, the Republican budget is a picture of Biden they drew a penis on with a Sharpie.",
">\n\nBut they drew it exaggeratedly large so they can see the joke. And now they unironically call him Big Dick Biden because they think he's acting like a huge dick.",
">\n\nTraceable accountability is garlic to the GOP vampire.",
">\n\nDems: \"Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"No!\"\nDems: \"Kevin, be serious here . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"I doan wanna!\nDems: \"C'mon now, Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"You can't make me!!! Just give me what my handlers want or I'm gonna turn on the space lasers!!!\"\n\"Pew! Pew! Pew!\" the Speaker added.",
">\n\nGOP: We want cut waste, fraud and abuse. \nPrez: okay, show us specifics on what you think should be cut.\nGOP: Waste, Fraud and Abuse!\nThey don’t want provide specific answers, because those will be unpopular. Biden asking for specifics, so he can hammer them on those specifics.",
">\n\nExactly and McCarthy is in an impossible position since he had to agree to a rules change in the House that would let a single member launch a challenge to his speakership. Hence his answer on Twitter which you nicely parroted. “Mr. President,” he wrote, “I received your staff’s memo. I’m not interested in political games. I’m coming to negotiate for the American people.”",
">\n\nGoing into a negotiation with a plan? Does uncle Joe even know republicans?",
">\n\nPresident Joe knows that there isn't a single Republican in Congress who can even fake a detailed budget thing in Word/PDF",
">\n\nThey're going to copy and paste last year's budget, and just reduce everything they don't like.",
">\n\nThen they need to say in detail everything they don't like and by how much they would like to reduce it.",
">\n\nHmm... a detailed budget you say?\n|Budget 2024|Amount|\n:--|:--|\n|Wokeness|$0|\n|Awesomeness|$ALL|\nWhy yes, I'd love a prestigious committee assignment. I'm thinking... chair of Ways and Means? Thanks, Kev!!",
">\n\nChatGOP. I’m calling it now.",
">\n\nIf we could actually just go ahead and replace the entire Republican Party with ChatGPT actually, that would be a step up. At least the AI does it’s job. The GOP is the real do-nothing party.",
">\n\nHe wants them to put in writing all the deeply unpopular demands they are making so no one can deny it later on.",
">\n\n“Curses! Foiled Again!” - Kevin McCarthy",
">\n\nGod. McCarthy is so bad at this.",
">\n\nGood move. He knows how difficult it will be for them to produce one, and even if they are capable of spitting something out, it will likely be unpopular and it will have further stressed their internal divisions.",
">\n\nSummary:\nWe need to cut spending on welfare, infrastructure, and local projects in your area, and futher increase handouts to the 1% and corporations and fatten up the military to prepare for more immoral wars like the Iraq War we blatantly lied our way into. \n-Signed The GOP.",
">\n\nYou are dead on. Now it's all about how they shove this pill down their voter's throats without them getting upset.",
">\n\nIt's hilarious that you have to remind the Republicans to make sure they bring an agenda to the meeting for the things they want.",
">\n\nLooks like the Republicans may have caught another car.",
">\n\nYou mean with like numbers and stuff??? That's a tall order from this bunch of dropouts.",
">\n\n\nFor Debt Ceiling Negotiation\n\nExcuse me?",
">\n\nBut that involves actual work, instead of just shit-talking the Dems.",
">\n\nGuessing the Republicans will produce nothing or something that is completely ridiculous. Republicans remind me of the kid on the school group project who refuses to work with the group and then when the presentation is due they say \"Well that was a shit show, I could have done way better just by myself.\"",
">\n\nHope the White House provided them with a coloring book and crayons.",
">\n\nIt'll be as detailed as Trump's healthcare plan",
">\n\nEvery step of the way has been glaring missteps on the part of republicans.",
">\n\nLol, no that actual would require them to do something, and they only love doing nothing or taking people rights…… if it doesn’t involve those two, forget it.",
">\n\nWhat's stopping the Republicans from just giving a deliberately BS budget? They're just going to lie to Biden lmao",
">\n\nWhat's stopping them is public attention. They can lie if they want, but the current administration is telling Republicans that whatever they say will be in public discussion.",
">\n\nWhen has that actually worked? \nI really, really really hate the mindset on this subreddit that you can shame the GOP into behaving themselves.\nThe Republicans OPENLY VIOLATE FEDERAL LAW ON A REGULAR BASIS WITH NO CONSEQUENCES. Who is holding them accountable? I'm getting sick and tired of this.",
">\n\n\nWhen has that actually worked? \n\nIt's never done. How often do you hear the actual conversations they have, and the plans they make? \n\nmindset on this subreddit that you can shame the GOP into behaving themselves.\n\nI'm not the subreddit, and I don't believe that at all. I treat them as they are, the end. I don't have to shame them, just like I don't have to accept their bullshit.\nI hold them accountable when I deal with them. Can't speak for everyone else though.",
">\n\nUntil I see the federal authorities mass arrest the entire GOP and declare the Republican Party a terrorist organization, they're not doing nearly enough",
">\n\n\nUntil I see the federal authorities mass arrest the entire GOP and declare the Republican Party a terrorist organization, they're not doing nearly enough\n\nI'm not going anywhere near that far. I'm just a person and I'm going to do what I can on the matter.",
">\n\nI'm not asking you, God damn lmao. Where in my comment did I explicitly ask you to personally arrest the entire GOP? I'm saying what I want to happen.\nYou're being really pearl-clutchy and overly finicky for no reason. I'm not trying to interrogate or grill you.",
">\n\n\nI'm not asking you, God damn lmao. Where in my comment did I explicitly ask you to personally arrest the entire GOP? I'm saying what I want to happen.\nYou're being really pearl-clutchy and overly finicky for no reason. I'm not trying to interrogate or grill you.\n\nGood for you.",
">\n\nSo what happened to no negotiations?",
">\n\nThere should be a negotiation on the federal budget. The house is directly responsible for creating the spending bill. It's one of their primary jobs. \nI think the \"no negotiations\" was around deciding not to pay outstanding debts. There's no reason for Biden to negotiate on that because the House already passed the bills authorizing the spending.\nI think it is probably valuable to force Republicans to do a minimum amount of work if they don't want to pay the bills, even if he doesn't expect to agree to compromises around not paying the budget based on it. I personally doubt they have thought any of it through in detail. Why would they? The last Tax Cuts and Jobs Act was riddled with errors and was written in the margins at 3am... and that was their more reasonable Senate reps.",
">\n\nWhy do Democratic continue to use the language if a budget negotiation? This is not a budget negotiation! Yes, Dems need to force the GOP to declare what it is they are actually proposing to cut but Democrats need to educate the public about the process of the debt ceiling and not allow the GOP to conflate budget negotiations with paying for debts already incurred. Voters are smart enough to understand the difference",
">\n\nI truly don't think they are. 23% of voters in his district want Santos to stay and be allowed to represent them when everything that came before was a lie.\nHow on earth do you think that the average voter has any intelligence when 23% of a district thinks a scam artist should stay.",
">\n\nWell to me that means a majority of the people in Santos’s district don’t want him to stay and they do understand why he should go, even in a district that voted for him in the first place. The GOP is hopeless at this point so even those that do understand, don’t care but the last election proved that there are more people in the country that do care about the welfare of the country than those that don’t. The GOP knows that’s true. That’s why they work so hard to lie and cheat and deprive voters of the right to vote. So I have hope that if the Dems can get the truth out and show the contrast, Americans will do the right thing",
">\n\nWrong answer Dema rats in charge there job",
">\n\nIt would require Bobo, EmptyG, and PizzaGaetz to do math, and there are a lot of digits in these figures.",
">\n\nThe will find it just under the better Obama care plan and their plan for immigration reform. Back in some closet with the binder full of women. (and some secret stuff folders)",
">\n\nThe Republicans are going to need a serious distraction to get out of this.\nThey have no clue on how to balance the budget, nor do they care.\nThey don’t have the power to cut taxes for the wealthy and say it’s for the greater good of the country anymore.",
">\n\nThey will have it in two weeks, honest.",
">\n\nIf they do oblige, Biden and the democrats had better read it twice and read it good to make sure there's nothing shady going on before signing anything. \nThe 2023 appropriations Omnibus signed in December prematurely ended the Pandemic EBT program which is going to result in a massive SNAP cut for millions of people in more than half of the country starting in March. I have to assume that was an oversight or a concession due to the timeline since the democrats signed it. I don't want anything like that happening again here. It is unacceptable.",
">\n\nBudget was passed into law in December. This is to raise the debt ceiling to pay for the budget. . .that was passed. \nI think Biden asking for a budget is just to keep them busy.",
">\n\nI know the budget was passed in December. However, I was under the impression that republicans want cuts to the budget in exchange for raising the debt ceiling. I'm not sure if they intend to amend the budget or they want the concessions going forward, but when it comes time to sign the legislation, the democrats should read everything carefully.\nMillions are about to be pushed off a hunger cliff in March when the Pandemic EBT appropriations run out, and in April millions more are going to lose Medicaid. All of this while we're still dealing with massive price hikes and the pandemic.\nWe don't need any more clandestine cuts to the safety net.",
">\n\nWhen it's time for the idiots with the big mouths to put up - guess what happens.",
">\n\nIdk this why biden and the mainstream dems are so disappointing. Just tell McCarthy no. They can pass a bill to extend the debt ceiling. Everyone agrees letting the dollar become worthless overnight is a bad idea. There's zero negotiation needed.",
">\n\nThe only numbers they will come in with is \"an across the board 3% cut\" or similar. That way they and their base don't have to think about it too hard."
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We need a detailed budget of current spending. An audit of the fed would save everyone piles. | [
"It blows my mind Republicans have been campaigning on cutting Social Security, and Medicare and junk that Boomers are now preparing to get or are already getting, and Boomers still support them completely.",
">\n\nI always assumed any cuts would be geared at future benefits for people that are only just starting to pay in.\nAnd one might think, \"well why would people want to deny others of a benefit that they enjoy themselves\", but we already know the answer.",
">\n\nI know I'm in the minority as an elder millennial, I've been working for the past 25 years with no vacations and smart investments so I am more or less financially set.\nBut if social security is cut for my generation I will quit my job on the spot. I'm not going to pay in one more dime. Fuck these boomers who want to destroy the future to enrich themselves.",
">\n\nThat fact that you mentioned no vacations to be financially sound scares me. Don’t do that… there is zero guarantee you’ll make it to retirement age in shape to enjoy it. Enjoy life now",
">\n\nGenX here that followed the same strategy. My health is fucked. \nOn the bright side, I've probably saved enough for retirement because I'm going to die at my desk before I'm 60.",
">\n\nNot too late to change and start enjoying things now. Ive probably fucked myself over on retirement and that sucks but my body is failing hard and fast and I’m not even old age. I’m so glad I did a lot in my 20s and 30s because I am scared I’ll not make it to 50, let alone 60",
">\n\nNo friends and no interests. And most of my money is in long-term retirement. \nPlus, my medical bills would wipe me out if I quit my job.",
">\n\nAs someone else with no friends or interests I feel this\nExcept I have no investments.",
">\n\n“We’ve already begun work on a comprehensive budget, titled, ‘We hate Democrats Just Because.’ You’ll have it in two weeks.”",
">\n\n\"2 minutes, Turkish\"",
">\n\nIt was 2 minutes 5 minutes ago",
">\n\n\nA Republican budget proposal, the advisers said, should specify whether Republicans would pursue savings through cuts to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, health insurance subsidies, research or public safety spending.\n\nIn other words, you can’t just yell “stop the woke budget!” You have to point out exactly what money is allocated to those causes and then justify why.\nWe all know they won’t do this because they have nothing to point to. So they’ll decry “woke budget!” until the summer and then they will fuck over the country for cheap culture war points.",
">\n\nIt’s absolutely ridiculous. For the past decade at least, Republicans only goal has been to destroy faith in our institutions so they can point out how broken it is and how we need to vote them in to fix it. They are 100% willing to let the government default so they can point to it and say it’s all democrats fault. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. Their constituents religiously watch a single “news” source that tells them exactly what to believe.",
">\n\nWhile ironically calling everyone else around them sheep. Sighhh",
">\n\n“We will block the government from paying debts until you cut spending 😈 What do you think of that Sleepy Joe?”\n“What spending are you going to cut?”\n“Medicare and social securi- uh- I mean no, NO WE WON’T DO THAT! We’ll cut uh… uh… educa- no… uh… the military budg- ahhh our lobbyists need that… we’re gonna cut… something WOKE!”\n“Okay send me a budget.”\n“agggghhhh FUCK YOU JOE!! FUCK YOU!”\nLoving this new GOP that is both toothless and dumb.",
">\n\nThey’re dumb but they aren’t toothless. They can still crater the economy or force this into the (corrupt and right wing) courts and come out with a win.",
">\n\nThere is no world where the debt ceiling doesn’t get raised. It will be raised. The GOP just wants to embarass themselves a bit beforehand it seems",
">\n\nYou’re going to be wrong. They’re that stupid",
">\n\nIn order for the debt ceiling to not be raised, and the US to default on its loans, the Republicans will need almost all their congresspeople to remain opposed to raising it. Even as it causes a recession and blows up all their stock portfolios. \nThe debt ceiling will be raised. But it doesn’t need to be for 6 months. The treasury says it can take extraordinary measures to\nmove money around and pay off debts until June. So the Republicans might just keep refusing to raise the debt ceiling and make a show out of it for a few months.",
">\n\nThat would dominate the news cycles. Yawn.",
">\n\nIt will be produced right after their very beautiful health care plan.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for infrastructure week",
">\n\nInfrastructure week is done. By democrats of course.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"Set Obfuscate Shield to maximum deflection power!\"",
">\n\nLet’s be real, the Republican budget is a picture of Biden they drew a penis on with a Sharpie.",
">\n\nBut they drew it exaggeratedly large so they can see the joke. And now they unironically call him Big Dick Biden because they think he's acting like a huge dick.",
">\n\nTraceable accountability is garlic to the GOP vampire.",
">\n\nDems: \"Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"No!\"\nDems: \"Kevin, be serious here . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"I doan wanna!\nDems: \"C'mon now, Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"You can't make me!!! Just give me what my handlers want or I'm gonna turn on the space lasers!!!\"\n\"Pew! Pew! Pew!\" the Speaker added.",
">\n\nGOP: We want cut waste, fraud and abuse. \nPrez: okay, show us specifics on what you think should be cut.\nGOP: Waste, Fraud and Abuse!\nThey don’t want provide specific answers, because those will be unpopular. Biden asking for specifics, so he can hammer them on those specifics.",
">\n\nExactly and McCarthy is in an impossible position since he had to agree to a rules change in the House that would let a single member launch a challenge to his speakership. Hence his answer on Twitter which you nicely parroted. “Mr. President,” he wrote, “I received your staff’s memo. I’m not interested in political games. I’m coming to negotiate for the American people.”",
">\n\nGoing into a negotiation with a plan? Does uncle Joe even know republicans?",
">\n\nPresident Joe knows that there isn't a single Republican in Congress who can even fake a detailed budget thing in Word/PDF",
">\n\nThey're going to copy and paste last year's budget, and just reduce everything they don't like.",
">\n\nThen they need to say in detail everything they don't like and by how much they would like to reduce it.",
">\n\nHmm... a detailed budget you say?\n|Budget 2024|Amount|\n:--|:--|\n|Wokeness|$0|\n|Awesomeness|$ALL|\nWhy yes, I'd love a prestigious committee assignment. I'm thinking... chair of Ways and Means? Thanks, Kev!!",
">\n\nChatGOP. I’m calling it now.",
">\n\nIf we could actually just go ahead and replace the entire Republican Party with ChatGPT actually, that would be a step up. At least the AI does it’s job. The GOP is the real do-nothing party.",
">\n\nHe wants them to put in writing all the deeply unpopular demands they are making so no one can deny it later on.",
">\n\n“Curses! Foiled Again!” - Kevin McCarthy",
">\n\nGod. McCarthy is so bad at this.",
">\n\nGood move. He knows how difficult it will be for them to produce one, and even if they are capable of spitting something out, it will likely be unpopular and it will have further stressed their internal divisions.",
">\n\nSummary:\nWe need to cut spending on welfare, infrastructure, and local projects in your area, and futher increase handouts to the 1% and corporations and fatten up the military to prepare for more immoral wars like the Iraq War we blatantly lied our way into. \n-Signed The GOP.",
">\n\nYou are dead on. Now it's all about how they shove this pill down their voter's throats without them getting upset.",
">\n\nIt's hilarious that you have to remind the Republicans to make sure they bring an agenda to the meeting for the things they want.",
">\n\nLooks like the Republicans may have caught another car.",
">\n\nYou mean with like numbers and stuff??? That's a tall order from this bunch of dropouts.",
">\n\n\nFor Debt Ceiling Negotiation\n\nExcuse me?",
">\n\nBut that involves actual work, instead of just shit-talking the Dems.",
">\n\nGuessing the Republicans will produce nothing or something that is completely ridiculous. Republicans remind me of the kid on the school group project who refuses to work with the group and then when the presentation is due they say \"Well that was a shit show, I could have done way better just by myself.\"",
">\n\nHope the White House provided them with a coloring book and crayons.",
">\n\nIt'll be as detailed as Trump's healthcare plan",
">\n\nEvery step of the way has been glaring missteps on the part of republicans.",
">\n\nLol, no that actual would require them to do something, and they only love doing nothing or taking people rights…… if it doesn’t involve those two, forget it.",
">\n\nWhat's stopping the Republicans from just giving a deliberately BS budget? They're just going to lie to Biden lmao",
">\n\nWhat's stopping them is public attention. They can lie if they want, but the current administration is telling Republicans that whatever they say will be in public discussion.",
">\n\nWhen has that actually worked? \nI really, really really hate the mindset on this subreddit that you can shame the GOP into behaving themselves.\nThe Republicans OPENLY VIOLATE FEDERAL LAW ON A REGULAR BASIS WITH NO CONSEQUENCES. Who is holding them accountable? I'm getting sick and tired of this.",
">\n\n\nWhen has that actually worked? \n\nIt's never done. How often do you hear the actual conversations they have, and the plans they make? \n\nmindset on this subreddit that you can shame the GOP into behaving themselves.\n\nI'm not the subreddit, and I don't believe that at all. I treat them as they are, the end. I don't have to shame them, just like I don't have to accept their bullshit.\nI hold them accountable when I deal with them. Can't speak for everyone else though.",
">\n\nUntil I see the federal authorities mass arrest the entire GOP and declare the Republican Party a terrorist organization, they're not doing nearly enough",
">\n\n\nUntil I see the federal authorities mass arrest the entire GOP and declare the Republican Party a terrorist organization, they're not doing nearly enough\n\nI'm not going anywhere near that far. I'm just a person and I'm going to do what I can on the matter.",
">\n\nI'm not asking you, God damn lmao. Where in my comment did I explicitly ask you to personally arrest the entire GOP? I'm saying what I want to happen.\nYou're being really pearl-clutchy and overly finicky for no reason. I'm not trying to interrogate or grill you.",
">\n\n\nI'm not asking you, God damn lmao. Where in my comment did I explicitly ask you to personally arrest the entire GOP? I'm saying what I want to happen.\nYou're being really pearl-clutchy and overly finicky for no reason. I'm not trying to interrogate or grill you.\n\nGood for you.",
">\n\nSo what happened to no negotiations?",
">\n\nThere should be a negotiation on the federal budget. The house is directly responsible for creating the spending bill. It's one of their primary jobs. \nI think the \"no negotiations\" was around deciding not to pay outstanding debts. There's no reason for Biden to negotiate on that because the House already passed the bills authorizing the spending.\nI think it is probably valuable to force Republicans to do a minimum amount of work if they don't want to pay the bills, even if he doesn't expect to agree to compromises around not paying the budget based on it. I personally doubt they have thought any of it through in detail. Why would they? The last Tax Cuts and Jobs Act was riddled with errors and was written in the margins at 3am... and that was their more reasonable Senate reps.",
">\n\nWhy do Democratic continue to use the language if a budget negotiation? This is not a budget negotiation! Yes, Dems need to force the GOP to declare what it is they are actually proposing to cut but Democrats need to educate the public about the process of the debt ceiling and not allow the GOP to conflate budget negotiations with paying for debts already incurred. Voters are smart enough to understand the difference",
">\n\nI truly don't think they are. 23% of voters in his district want Santos to stay and be allowed to represent them when everything that came before was a lie.\nHow on earth do you think that the average voter has any intelligence when 23% of a district thinks a scam artist should stay.",
">\n\nWell to me that means a majority of the people in Santos’s district don’t want him to stay and they do understand why he should go, even in a district that voted for him in the first place. The GOP is hopeless at this point so even those that do understand, don’t care but the last election proved that there are more people in the country that do care about the welfare of the country than those that don’t. The GOP knows that’s true. That’s why they work so hard to lie and cheat and deprive voters of the right to vote. So I have hope that if the Dems can get the truth out and show the contrast, Americans will do the right thing",
">\n\nWrong answer Dema rats in charge there job",
">\n\nIt would require Bobo, EmptyG, and PizzaGaetz to do math, and there are a lot of digits in these figures.",
">\n\nThe will find it just under the better Obama care plan and their plan for immigration reform. Back in some closet with the binder full of women. (and some secret stuff folders)",
">\n\nThe Republicans are going to need a serious distraction to get out of this.\nThey have no clue on how to balance the budget, nor do they care.\nThey don’t have the power to cut taxes for the wealthy and say it’s for the greater good of the country anymore.",
">\n\nThey will have it in two weeks, honest.",
">\n\nIf they do oblige, Biden and the democrats had better read it twice and read it good to make sure there's nothing shady going on before signing anything. \nThe 2023 appropriations Omnibus signed in December prematurely ended the Pandemic EBT program which is going to result in a massive SNAP cut for millions of people in more than half of the country starting in March. I have to assume that was an oversight or a concession due to the timeline since the democrats signed it. I don't want anything like that happening again here. It is unacceptable.",
">\n\nBudget was passed into law in December. This is to raise the debt ceiling to pay for the budget. . .that was passed. \nI think Biden asking for a budget is just to keep them busy.",
">\n\nI know the budget was passed in December. However, I was under the impression that republicans want cuts to the budget in exchange for raising the debt ceiling. I'm not sure if they intend to amend the budget or they want the concessions going forward, but when it comes time to sign the legislation, the democrats should read everything carefully.\nMillions are about to be pushed off a hunger cliff in March when the Pandemic EBT appropriations run out, and in April millions more are going to lose Medicaid. All of this while we're still dealing with massive price hikes and the pandemic.\nWe don't need any more clandestine cuts to the safety net.",
">\n\nWhen it's time for the idiots with the big mouths to put up - guess what happens.",
">\n\nIdk this why biden and the mainstream dems are so disappointing. Just tell McCarthy no. They can pass a bill to extend the debt ceiling. Everyone agrees letting the dollar become worthless overnight is a bad idea. There's zero negotiation needed.",
">\n\nThe only numbers they will come in with is \"an across the board 3% cut\" or similar. That way they and their base don't have to think about it too hard.",
">\n\nLol we’re still waiting from Trump’s infrastructure bill and his healthcare plan. I think they might have a backlog."
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How about taxing the rich? All these tax cuts to the rich have accelerated income inequality and increased the national debt. They can afford their taxes. | [
"It blows my mind Republicans have been campaigning on cutting Social Security, and Medicare and junk that Boomers are now preparing to get or are already getting, and Boomers still support them completely.",
">\n\nI always assumed any cuts would be geared at future benefits for people that are only just starting to pay in.\nAnd one might think, \"well why would people want to deny others of a benefit that they enjoy themselves\", but we already know the answer.",
">\n\nI know I'm in the minority as an elder millennial, I've been working for the past 25 years with no vacations and smart investments so I am more or less financially set.\nBut if social security is cut for my generation I will quit my job on the spot. I'm not going to pay in one more dime. Fuck these boomers who want to destroy the future to enrich themselves.",
">\n\nThat fact that you mentioned no vacations to be financially sound scares me. Don’t do that… there is zero guarantee you’ll make it to retirement age in shape to enjoy it. Enjoy life now",
">\n\nGenX here that followed the same strategy. My health is fucked. \nOn the bright side, I've probably saved enough for retirement because I'm going to die at my desk before I'm 60.",
">\n\nNot too late to change and start enjoying things now. Ive probably fucked myself over on retirement and that sucks but my body is failing hard and fast and I’m not even old age. I’m so glad I did a lot in my 20s and 30s because I am scared I’ll not make it to 50, let alone 60",
">\n\nNo friends and no interests. And most of my money is in long-term retirement. \nPlus, my medical bills would wipe me out if I quit my job.",
">\n\nAs someone else with no friends or interests I feel this\nExcept I have no investments.",
">\n\n“We’ve already begun work on a comprehensive budget, titled, ‘We hate Democrats Just Because.’ You’ll have it in two weeks.”",
">\n\n\"2 minutes, Turkish\"",
">\n\nIt was 2 minutes 5 minutes ago",
">\n\n\nA Republican budget proposal, the advisers said, should specify whether Republicans would pursue savings through cuts to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, health insurance subsidies, research or public safety spending.\n\nIn other words, you can’t just yell “stop the woke budget!” You have to point out exactly what money is allocated to those causes and then justify why.\nWe all know they won’t do this because they have nothing to point to. So they’ll decry “woke budget!” until the summer and then they will fuck over the country for cheap culture war points.",
">\n\nIt’s absolutely ridiculous. For the past decade at least, Republicans only goal has been to destroy faith in our institutions so they can point out how broken it is and how we need to vote them in to fix it. They are 100% willing to let the government default so they can point to it and say it’s all democrats fault. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. Their constituents religiously watch a single “news” source that tells them exactly what to believe.",
">\n\nWhile ironically calling everyone else around them sheep. Sighhh",
">\n\n“We will block the government from paying debts until you cut spending 😈 What do you think of that Sleepy Joe?”\n“What spending are you going to cut?”\n“Medicare and social securi- uh- I mean no, NO WE WON’T DO THAT! We’ll cut uh… uh… educa- no… uh… the military budg- ahhh our lobbyists need that… we’re gonna cut… something WOKE!”\n“Okay send me a budget.”\n“agggghhhh FUCK YOU JOE!! FUCK YOU!”\nLoving this new GOP that is both toothless and dumb.",
">\n\nThey’re dumb but they aren’t toothless. They can still crater the economy or force this into the (corrupt and right wing) courts and come out with a win.",
">\n\nThere is no world where the debt ceiling doesn’t get raised. It will be raised. The GOP just wants to embarass themselves a bit beforehand it seems",
">\n\nYou’re going to be wrong. They’re that stupid",
">\n\nIn order for the debt ceiling to not be raised, and the US to default on its loans, the Republicans will need almost all their congresspeople to remain opposed to raising it. Even as it causes a recession and blows up all their stock portfolios. \nThe debt ceiling will be raised. But it doesn’t need to be for 6 months. The treasury says it can take extraordinary measures to\nmove money around and pay off debts until June. So the Republicans might just keep refusing to raise the debt ceiling and make a show out of it for a few months.",
">\n\nThat would dominate the news cycles. Yawn.",
">\n\nIt will be produced right after their very beautiful health care plan.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for infrastructure week",
">\n\nInfrastructure week is done. By democrats of course.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"Set Obfuscate Shield to maximum deflection power!\"",
">\n\nLet’s be real, the Republican budget is a picture of Biden they drew a penis on with a Sharpie.",
">\n\nBut they drew it exaggeratedly large so they can see the joke. And now they unironically call him Big Dick Biden because they think he's acting like a huge dick.",
">\n\nTraceable accountability is garlic to the GOP vampire.",
">\n\nDems: \"Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"No!\"\nDems: \"Kevin, be serious here . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"I doan wanna!\nDems: \"C'mon now, Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"You can't make me!!! Just give me what my handlers want or I'm gonna turn on the space lasers!!!\"\n\"Pew! Pew! Pew!\" the Speaker added.",
">\n\nGOP: We want cut waste, fraud and abuse. \nPrez: okay, show us specifics on what you think should be cut.\nGOP: Waste, Fraud and Abuse!\nThey don’t want provide specific answers, because those will be unpopular. Biden asking for specifics, so he can hammer them on those specifics.",
">\n\nExactly and McCarthy is in an impossible position since he had to agree to a rules change in the House that would let a single member launch a challenge to his speakership. Hence his answer on Twitter which you nicely parroted. “Mr. President,” he wrote, “I received your staff’s memo. I’m not interested in political games. I’m coming to negotiate for the American people.”",
">\n\nGoing into a negotiation with a plan? Does uncle Joe even know republicans?",
">\n\nPresident Joe knows that there isn't a single Republican in Congress who can even fake a detailed budget thing in Word/PDF",
">\n\nThey're going to copy and paste last year's budget, and just reduce everything they don't like.",
">\n\nThen they need to say in detail everything they don't like and by how much they would like to reduce it.",
">\n\nHmm... a detailed budget you say?\n|Budget 2024|Amount|\n:--|:--|\n|Wokeness|$0|\n|Awesomeness|$ALL|\nWhy yes, I'd love a prestigious committee assignment. I'm thinking... chair of Ways and Means? Thanks, Kev!!",
">\n\nChatGOP. I’m calling it now.",
">\n\nIf we could actually just go ahead and replace the entire Republican Party with ChatGPT actually, that would be a step up. At least the AI does it’s job. The GOP is the real do-nothing party.",
">\n\nHe wants them to put in writing all the deeply unpopular demands they are making so no one can deny it later on.",
">\n\n“Curses! Foiled Again!” - Kevin McCarthy",
">\n\nGod. McCarthy is so bad at this.",
">\n\nGood move. He knows how difficult it will be for them to produce one, and even if they are capable of spitting something out, it will likely be unpopular and it will have further stressed their internal divisions.",
">\n\nSummary:\nWe need to cut spending on welfare, infrastructure, and local projects in your area, and futher increase handouts to the 1% and corporations and fatten up the military to prepare for more immoral wars like the Iraq War we blatantly lied our way into. \n-Signed The GOP.",
">\n\nYou are dead on. Now it's all about how they shove this pill down their voter's throats without them getting upset.",
">\n\nIt's hilarious that you have to remind the Republicans to make sure they bring an agenda to the meeting for the things they want.",
">\n\nLooks like the Republicans may have caught another car.",
">\n\nYou mean with like numbers and stuff??? That's a tall order from this bunch of dropouts.",
">\n\n\nFor Debt Ceiling Negotiation\n\nExcuse me?",
">\n\nBut that involves actual work, instead of just shit-talking the Dems.",
">\n\nGuessing the Republicans will produce nothing or something that is completely ridiculous. Republicans remind me of the kid on the school group project who refuses to work with the group and then when the presentation is due they say \"Well that was a shit show, I could have done way better just by myself.\"",
">\n\nHope the White House provided them with a coloring book and crayons.",
">\n\nIt'll be as detailed as Trump's healthcare plan",
">\n\nEvery step of the way has been glaring missteps on the part of republicans.",
">\n\nLol, no that actual would require them to do something, and they only love doing nothing or taking people rights…… if it doesn’t involve those two, forget it.",
">\n\nWhat's stopping the Republicans from just giving a deliberately BS budget? They're just going to lie to Biden lmao",
">\n\nWhat's stopping them is public attention. They can lie if they want, but the current administration is telling Republicans that whatever they say will be in public discussion.",
">\n\nWhen has that actually worked? \nI really, really really hate the mindset on this subreddit that you can shame the GOP into behaving themselves.\nThe Republicans OPENLY VIOLATE FEDERAL LAW ON A REGULAR BASIS WITH NO CONSEQUENCES. Who is holding them accountable? I'm getting sick and tired of this.",
">\n\n\nWhen has that actually worked? \n\nIt's never done. How often do you hear the actual conversations they have, and the plans they make? \n\nmindset on this subreddit that you can shame the GOP into behaving themselves.\n\nI'm not the subreddit, and I don't believe that at all. I treat them as they are, the end. I don't have to shame them, just like I don't have to accept their bullshit.\nI hold them accountable when I deal with them. Can't speak for everyone else though.",
">\n\nUntil I see the federal authorities mass arrest the entire GOP and declare the Republican Party a terrorist organization, they're not doing nearly enough",
">\n\n\nUntil I see the federal authorities mass arrest the entire GOP and declare the Republican Party a terrorist organization, they're not doing nearly enough\n\nI'm not going anywhere near that far. I'm just a person and I'm going to do what I can on the matter.",
">\n\nI'm not asking you, God damn lmao. Where in my comment did I explicitly ask you to personally arrest the entire GOP? I'm saying what I want to happen.\nYou're being really pearl-clutchy and overly finicky for no reason. I'm not trying to interrogate or grill you.",
">\n\n\nI'm not asking you, God damn lmao. Where in my comment did I explicitly ask you to personally arrest the entire GOP? I'm saying what I want to happen.\nYou're being really pearl-clutchy and overly finicky for no reason. I'm not trying to interrogate or grill you.\n\nGood for you.",
">\n\nSo what happened to no negotiations?",
">\n\nThere should be a negotiation on the federal budget. The house is directly responsible for creating the spending bill. It's one of their primary jobs. \nI think the \"no negotiations\" was around deciding not to pay outstanding debts. There's no reason for Biden to negotiate on that because the House already passed the bills authorizing the spending.\nI think it is probably valuable to force Republicans to do a minimum amount of work if they don't want to pay the bills, even if he doesn't expect to agree to compromises around not paying the budget based on it. I personally doubt they have thought any of it through in detail. Why would they? The last Tax Cuts and Jobs Act was riddled with errors and was written in the margins at 3am... and that was their more reasonable Senate reps.",
">\n\nWhy do Democratic continue to use the language if a budget negotiation? This is not a budget negotiation! Yes, Dems need to force the GOP to declare what it is they are actually proposing to cut but Democrats need to educate the public about the process of the debt ceiling and not allow the GOP to conflate budget negotiations with paying for debts already incurred. Voters are smart enough to understand the difference",
">\n\nI truly don't think they are. 23% of voters in his district want Santos to stay and be allowed to represent them when everything that came before was a lie.\nHow on earth do you think that the average voter has any intelligence when 23% of a district thinks a scam artist should stay.",
">\n\nWell to me that means a majority of the people in Santos’s district don’t want him to stay and they do understand why he should go, even in a district that voted for him in the first place. The GOP is hopeless at this point so even those that do understand, don’t care but the last election proved that there are more people in the country that do care about the welfare of the country than those that don’t. The GOP knows that’s true. That’s why they work so hard to lie and cheat and deprive voters of the right to vote. So I have hope that if the Dems can get the truth out and show the contrast, Americans will do the right thing",
">\n\nWrong answer Dema rats in charge there job",
">\n\nIt would require Bobo, EmptyG, and PizzaGaetz to do math, and there are a lot of digits in these figures.",
">\n\nThe will find it just under the better Obama care plan and their plan for immigration reform. Back in some closet with the binder full of women. (and some secret stuff folders)",
">\n\nThe Republicans are going to need a serious distraction to get out of this.\nThey have no clue on how to balance the budget, nor do they care.\nThey don’t have the power to cut taxes for the wealthy and say it’s for the greater good of the country anymore.",
">\n\nThey will have it in two weeks, honest.",
">\n\nIf they do oblige, Biden and the democrats had better read it twice and read it good to make sure there's nothing shady going on before signing anything. \nThe 2023 appropriations Omnibus signed in December prematurely ended the Pandemic EBT program which is going to result in a massive SNAP cut for millions of people in more than half of the country starting in March. I have to assume that was an oversight or a concession due to the timeline since the democrats signed it. I don't want anything like that happening again here. It is unacceptable.",
">\n\nBudget was passed into law in December. This is to raise the debt ceiling to pay for the budget. . .that was passed. \nI think Biden asking for a budget is just to keep them busy.",
">\n\nI know the budget was passed in December. However, I was under the impression that republicans want cuts to the budget in exchange for raising the debt ceiling. I'm not sure if they intend to amend the budget or they want the concessions going forward, but when it comes time to sign the legislation, the democrats should read everything carefully.\nMillions are about to be pushed off a hunger cliff in March when the Pandemic EBT appropriations run out, and in April millions more are going to lose Medicaid. All of this while we're still dealing with massive price hikes and the pandemic.\nWe don't need any more clandestine cuts to the safety net.",
">\n\nWhen it's time for the idiots with the big mouths to put up - guess what happens.",
">\n\nIdk this why biden and the mainstream dems are so disappointing. Just tell McCarthy no. They can pass a bill to extend the debt ceiling. Everyone agrees letting the dollar become worthless overnight is a bad idea. There's zero negotiation needed.",
">\n\nThe only numbers they will come in with is \"an across the board 3% cut\" or similar. That way they and their base don't have to think about it too hard.",
">\n\nLol we’re still waiting from Trump’s infrastructure bill and his healthcare plan. I think they might have a backlog.",
">\n\nWe need a detailed budget of current spending. An audit of the fed would save everyone piles."
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"It blows my mind Republicans have been campaigning on cutting Social Security, and Medicare and junk that Boomers are now preparing to get or are already getting, and Boomers still support them completely.",
">\n\nI always assumed any cuts would be geared at future benefits for people that are only just starting to pay in.\nAnd one might think, \"well why would people want to deny others of a benefit that they enjoy themselves\", but we already know the answer.",
">\n\nI know I'm in the minority as an elder millennial, I've been working for the past 25 years with no vacations and smart investments so I am more or less financially set.\nBut if social security is cut for my generation I will quit my job on the spot. I'm not going to pay in one more dime. Fuck these boomers who want to destroy the future to enrich themselves.",
">\n\nThat fact that you mentioned no vacations to be financially sound scares me. Don’t do that… there is zero guarantee you’ll make it to retirement age in shape to enjoy it. Enjoy life now",
">\n\nGenX here that followed the same strategy. My health is fucked. \nOn the bright side, I've probably saved enough for retirement because I'm going to die at my desk before I'm 60.",
">\n\nNot too late to change and start enjoying things now. Ive probably fucked myself over on retirement and that sucks but my body is failing hard and fast and I’m not even old age. I’m so glad I did a lot in my 20s and 30s because I am scared I’ll not make it to 50, let alone 60",
">\n\nNo friends and no interests. And most of my money is in long-term retirement. \nPlus, my medical bills would wipe me out if I quit my job.",
">\n\nAs someone else with no friends or interests I feel this\nExcept I have no investments.",
">\n\n“We’ve already begun work on a comprehensive budget, titled, ‘We hate Democrats Just Because.’ You’ll have it in two weeks.”",
">\n\n\"2 minutes, Turkish\"",
">\n\nIt was 2 minutes 5 minutes ago",
">\n\n\nA Republican budget proposal, the advisers said, should specify whether Republicans would pursue savings through cuts to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, health insurance subsidies, research or public safety spending.\n\nIn other words, you can’t just yell “stop the woke budget!” You have to point out exactly what money is allocated to those causes and then justify why.\nWe all know they won’t do this because they have nothing to point to. So they’ll decry “woke budget!” until the summer and then they will fuck over the country for cheap culture war points.",
">\n\nIt’s absolutely ridiculous. For the past decade at least, Republicans only goal has been to destroy faith in our institutions so they can point out how broken it is and how we need to vote them in to fix it. They are 100% willing to let the government default so they can point to it and say it’s all democrats fault. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. Their constituents religiously watch a single “news” source that tells them exactly what to believe.",
">\n\nWhile ironically calling everyone else around them sheep. Sighhh",
">\n\n“We will block the government from paying debts until you cut spending 😈 What do you think of that Sleepy Joe?”\n“What spending are you going to cut?”\n“Medicare and social securi- uh- I mean no, NO WE WON’T DO THAT! We’ll cut uh… uh… educa- no… uh… the military budg- ahhh our lobbyists need that… we’re gonna cut… something WOKE!”\n“Okay send me a budget.”\n“agggghhhh FUCK YOU JOE!! FUCK YOU!”\nLoving this new GOP that is both toothless and dumb.",
">\n\nThey’re dumb but they aren’t toothless. They can still crater the economy or force this into the (corrupt and right wing) courts and come out with a win.",
">\n\nThere is no world where the debt ceiling doesn’t get raised. It will be raised. The GOP just wants to embarass themselves a bit beforehand it seems",
">\n\nYou’re going to be wrong. They’re that stupid",
">\n\nIn order for the debt ceiling to not be raised, and the US to default on its loans, the Republicans will need almost all their congresspeople to remain opposed to raising it. Even as it causes a recession and blows up all their stock portfolios. \nThe debt ceiling will be raised. But it doesn’t need to be for 6 months. The treasury says it can take extraordinary measures to\nmove money around and pay off debts until June. So the Republicans might just keep refusing to raise the debt ceiling and make a show out of it for a few months.",
">\n\nThat would dominate the news cycles. Yawn.",
">\n\nIt will be produced right after their very beautiful health care plan.",
">\n\nI'm still waiting for infrastructure week",
">\n\nInfrastructure week is done. By democrats of course.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"Set Obfuscate Shield to maximum deflection power!\"",
">\n\nLet’s be real, the Republican budget is a picture of Biden they drew a penis on with a Sharpie.",
">\n\nBut they drew it exaggeratedly large so they can see the joke. And now they unironically call him Big Dick Biden because they think he's acting like a huge dick.",
">\n\nTraceable accountability is garlic to the GOP vampire.",
">\n\nDems: \"Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"No!\"\nDems: \"Kevin, be serious here . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"I doan wanna!\nDems: \"C'mon now, Kevin . . .\"\n14-time-loser Speaker of the House McCarthy: \"You can't make me!!! Just give me what my handlers want or I'm gonna turn on the space lasers!!!\"\n\"Pew! Pew! Pew!\" the Speaker added.",
">\n\nGOP: We want cut waste, fraud and abuse. \nPrez: okay, show us specifics on what you think should be cut.\nGOP: Waste, Fraud and Abuse!\nThey don’t want provide specific answers, because those will be unpopular. Biden asking for specifics, so he can hammer them on those specifics.",
">\n\nExactly and McCarthy is in an impossible position since he had to agree to a rules change in the House that would let a single member launch a challenge to his speakership. Hence his answer on Twitter which you nicely parroted. “Mr. President,” he wrote, “I received your staff’s memo. I’m not interested in political games. I’m coming to negotiate for the American people.”",
">\n\nGoing into a negotiation with a plan? Does uncle Joe even know republicans?",
">\n\nPresident Joe knows that there isn't a single Republican in Congress who can even fake a detailed budget thing in Word/PDF",
">\n\nThey're going to copy and paste last year's budget, and just reduce everything they don't like.",
">\n\nThen they need to say in detail everything they don't like and by how much they would like to reduce it.",
">\n\nHmm... a detailed budget you say?\n|Budget 2024|Amount|\n:--|:--|\n|Wokeness|$0|\n|Awesomeness|$ALL|\nWhy yes, I'd love a prestigious committee assignment. I'm thinking... chair of Ways and Means? Thanks, Kev!!",
">\n\nChatGOP. I’m calling it now.",
">\n\nIf we could actually just go ahead and replace the entire Republican Party with ChatGPT actually, that would be a step up. At least the AI does it’s job. The GOP is the real do-nothing party.",
">\n\nHe wants them to put in writing all the deeply unpopular demands they are making so no one can deny it later on.",
">\n\n“Curses! Foiled Again!” - Kevin McCarthy",
">\n\nGod. McCarthy is so bad at this.",
">\n\nGood move. He knows how difficult it will be for them to produce one, and even if they are capable of spitting something out, it will likely be unpopular and it will have further stressed their internal divisions.",
">\n\nSummary:\nWe need to cut spending on welfare, infrastructure, and local projects in your area, and futher increase handouts to the 1% and corporations and fatten up the military to prepare for more immoral wars like the Iraq War we blatantly lied our way into. \n-Signed The GOP.",
">\n\nYou are dead on. Now it's all about how they shove this pill down their voter's throats without them getting upset.",
">\n\nIt's hilarious that you have to remind the Republicans to make sure they bring an agenda to the meeting for the things they want.",
">\n\nLooks like the Republicans may have caught another car.",
">\n\nYou mean with like numbers and stuff??? That's a tall order from this bunch of dropouts.",
">\n\n\nFor Debt Ceiling Negotiation\n\nExcuse me?",
">\n\nBut that involves actual work, instead of just shit-talking the Dems.",
">\n\nGuessing the Republicans will produce nothing or something that is completely ridiculous. Republicans remind me of the kid on the school group project who refuses to work with the group and then when the presentation is due they say \"Well that was a shit show, I could have done way better just by myself.\"",
">\n\nHope the White House provided them with a coloring book and crayons.",
">\n\nIt'll be as detailed as Trump's healthcare plan",
">\n\nEvery step of the way has been glaring missteps on the part of republicans.",
">\n\nLol, no that actual would require them to do something, and they only love doing nothing or taking people rights…… if it doesn’t involve those two, forget it.",
">\n\nWhat's stopping the Republicans from just giving a deliberately BS budget? They're just going to lie to Biden lmao",
">\n\nWhat's stopping them is public attention. They can lie if they want, but the current administration is telling Republicans that whatever they say will be in public discussion.",
">\n\nWhen has that actually worked? \nI really, really really hate the mindset on this subreddit that you can shame the GOP into behaving themselves.\nThe Republicans OPENLY VIOLATE FEDERAL LAW ON A REGULAR BASIS WITH NO CONSEQUENCES. Who is holding them accountable? I'm getting sick and tired of this.",
">\n\n\nWhen has that actually worked? \n\nIt's never done. How often do you hear the actual conversations they have, and the plans they make? \n\nmindset on this subreddit that you can shame the GOP into behaving themselves.\n\nI'm not the subreddit, and I don't believe that at all. I treat them as they are, the end. I don't have to shame them, just like I don't have to accept their bullshit.\nI hold them accountable when I deal with them. Can't speak for everyone else though.",
">\n\nUntil I see the federal authorities mass arrest the entire GOP and declare the Republican Party a terrorist organization, they're not doing nearly enough",
">\n\n\nUntil I see the federal authorities mass arrest the entire GOP and declare the Republican Party a terrorist organization, they're not doing nearly enough\n\nI'm not going anywhere near that far. I'm just a person and I'm going to do what I can on the matter.",
">\n\nI'm not asking you, God damn lmao. Where in my comment did I explicitly ask you to personally arrest the entire GOP? I'm saying what I want to happen.\nYou're being really pearl-clutchy and overly finicky for no reason. I'm not trying to interrogate or grill you.",
">\n\n\nI'm not asking you, God damn lmao. Where in my comment did I explicitly ask you to personally arrest the entire GOP? I'm saying what I want to happen.\nYou're being really pearl-clutchy and overly finicky for no reason. I'm not trying to interrogate or grill you.\n\nGood for you.",
">\n\nSo what happened to no negotiations?",
">\n\nThere should be a negotiation on the federal budget. The house is directly responsible for creating the spending bill. It's one of their primary jobs. \nI think the \"no negotiations\" was around deciding not to pay outstanding debts. There's no reason for Biden to negotiate on that because the House already passed the bills authorizing the spending.\nI think it is probably valuable to force Republicans to do a minimum amount of work if they don't want to pay the bills, even if he doesn't expect to agree to compromises around not paying the budget based on it. I personally doubt they have thought any of it through in detail. Why would they? The last Tax Cuts and Jobs Act was riddled with errors and was written in the margins at 3am... and that was their more reasonable Senate reps.",
">\n\nWhy do Democratic continue to use the language if a budget negotiation? This is not a budget negotiation! Yes, Dems need to force the GOP to declare what it is they are actually proposing to cut but Democrats need to educate the public about the process of the debt ceiling and not allow the GOP to conflate budget negotiations with paying for debts already incurred. Voters are smart enough to understand the difference",
">\n\nI truly don't think they are. 23% of voters in his district want Santos to stay and be allowed to represent them when everything that came before was a lie.\nHow on earth do you think that the average voter has any intelligence when 23% of a district thinks a scam artist should stay.",
">\n\nWell to me that means a majority of the people in Santos’s district don’t want him to stay and they do understand why he should go, even in a district that voted for him in the first place. The GOP is hopeless at this point so even those that do understand, don’t care but the last election proved that there are more people in the country that do care about the welfare of the country than those that don’t. The GOP knows that’s true. That’s why they work so hard to lie and cheat and deprive voters of the right to vote. So I have hope that if the Dems can get the truth out and show the contrast, Americans will do the right thing",
">\n\nWrong answer Dema rats in charge there job",
">\n\nIt would require Bobo, EmptyG, and PizzaGaetz to do math, and there are a lot of digits in these figures.",
">\n\nThe will find it just under the better Obama care plan and their plan for immigration reform. Back in some closet with the binder full of women. (and some secret stuff folders)",
">\n\nThe Republicans are going to need a serious distraction to get out of this.\nThey have no clue on how to balance the budget, nor do they care.\nThey don’t have the power to cut taxes for the wealthy and say it’s for the greater good of the country anymore.",
">\n\nThey will have it in two weeks, honest.",
">\n\nIf they do oblige, Biden and the democrats had better read it twice and read it good to make sure there's nothing shady going on before signing anything. \nThe 2023 appropriations Omnibus signed in December prematurely ended the Pandemic EBT program which is going to result in a massive SNAP cut for millions of people in more than half of the country starting in March. I have to assume that was an oversight or a concession due to the timeline since the democrats signed it. I don't want anything like that happening again here. It is unacceptable.",
">\n\nBudget was passed into law in December. This is to raise the debt ceiling to pay for the budget. . .that was passed. \nI think Biden asking for a budget is just to keep them busy.",
">\n\nI know the budget was passed in December. However, I was under the impression that republicans want cuts to the budget in exchange for raising the debt ceiling. I'm not sure if they intend to amend the budget or they want the concessions going forward, but when it comes time to sign the legislation, the democrats should read everything carefully.\nMillions are about to be pushed off a hunger cliff in March when the Pandemic EBT appropriations run out, and in April millions more are going to lose Medicaid. All of this while we're still dealing with massive price hikes and the pandemic.\nWe don't need any more clandestine cuts to the safety net.",
">\n\nWhen it's time for the idiots with the big mouths to put up - guess what happens.",
">\n\nIdk this why biden and the mainstream dems are so disappointing. Just tell McCarthy no. They can pass a bill to extend the debt ceiling. Everyone agrees letting the dollar become worthless overnight is a bad idea. There's zero negotiation needed.",
">\n\nThe only numbers they will come in with is \"an across the board 3% cut\" or similar. That way they and their base don't have to think about it too hard.",
">\n\nLol we’re still waiting from Trump’s infrastructure bill and his healthcare plan. I think they might have a backlog.",
">\n\nWe need a detailed budget of current spending. An audit of the fed would save everyone piles.",
">\n\nHow about taxing the rich? All these tax cuts to the rich have accelerated income inequality and increased the national debt. They can afford their taxes."
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It is unethical and depraved. You're using coercive force to steal people's fucking organs. | [] |
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And if ones hesitates in arriving at the same conclusion, they need a label. | [
"It is unethical and depraved. You're using coercive force to steal people's fucking organs."
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I mean it is illegal to take money/compensation for an organ donation, and violations are taken extremely seriously (even if both parties are ok with it). How is this any different? | [
"It is unethical and depraved. You're using coercive force to steal people's fucking organs.",
">\n\nAnd if ones hesitates in arriving at the same conclusion, they need a label."
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What about toes? Do they need toes? I can get you a toe by 3 o’clock this afternoon. With nail polish. | [
"It is unethical and depraved. You're using coercive force to steal people's fucking organs.",
">\n\nAnd if ones hesitates in arriving at the same conclusion, they need a label.",
">\n\nI mean it is illegal to take money/compensation for an organ donation, and violations are taken extremely seriously (even if both parties are ok with it). How is this any different?"
] |
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Give a kidney lose a year? What the fuck is going on here? | [
"It is unethical and depraved. You're using coercive force to steal people's fucking organs.",
">\n\nAnd if ones hesitates in arriving at the same conclusion, they need a label.",
">\n\nI mean it is illegal to take money/compensation for an organ donation, and violations are taken extremely seriously (even if both parties are ok with it). How is this any different?",
">\n\nWhat about toes? Do they need toes? I can get you a toe by 3 o’clock this afternoon. With nail polish."
] |
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LEXX was not supposed to be taken literally... | [
"It is unethical and depraved. You're using coercive force to steal people's fucking organs.",
">\n\nAnd if ones hesitates in arriving at the same conclusion, they need a label.",
">\n\nI mean it is illegal to take money/compensation for an organ donation, and violations are taken extremely seriously (even if both parties are ok with it). How is this any different?",
">\n\nWhat about toes? Do they need toes? I can get you a toe by 3 o’clock this afternoon. With nail polish.",
">\n\nGive a kidney lose a year? What the fuck is going on here?"
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Too bad, Next up on the Republicans platform was box raised wives | [
"It is unethical and depraved. You're using coercive force to steal people's fucking organs.",
">\n\nAnd if ones hesitates in arriving at the same conclusion, they need a label.",
">\n\nI mean it is illegal to take money/compensation for an organ donation, and violations are taken extremely seriously (even if both parties are ok with it). How is this any different?",
">\n\nWhat about toes? Do they need toes? I can get you a toe by 3 o’clock this afternoon. With nail polish.",
">\n\nGive a kidney lose a year? What the fuck is going on here?",
">\n\nLEXX was not supposed to be taken literally..."
] |
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This time it's Democrats. | [
"It is unethical and depraved. You're using coercive force to steal people's fucking organs.",
">\n\nAnd if ones hesitates in arriving at the same conclusion, they need a label.",
">\n\nI mean it is illegal to take money/compensation for an organ donation, and violations are taken extremely seriously (even if both parties are ok with it). How is this any different?",
">\n\nWhat about toes? Do they need toes? I can get you a toe by 3 o’clock this afternoon. With nail polish.",
">\n\nGive a kidney lose a year? What the fuck is going on here?",
">\n\nLEXX was not supposed to be taken literally...",
">\n\nToo bad, Next up on the Republicans platform was box raised wives"
] |
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Tomato, tomato
(but I mean Republicans are already going down the women =property thing) | [
"It is unethical and depraved. You're using coercive force to steal people's fucking organs.",
">\n\nAnd if ones hesitates in arriving at the same conclusion, they need a label.",
">\n\nI mean it is illegal to take money/compensation for an organ donation, and violations are taken extremely seriously (even if both parties are ok with it). How is this any different?",
">\n\nWhat about toes? Do they need toes? I can get you a toe by 3 o’clock this afternoon. With nail polish.",
">\n\nGive a kidney lose a year? What the fuck is going on here?",
">\n\nLEXX was not supposed to be taken literally...",
">\n\nToo bad, Next up on the Republicans platform was box raised wives",
">\n\nThis time it's Democrats."
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Glad to see the Mass. legislature is eager about Roe v Wade being overturned.
Its disgusting to see that the first answer these people come up with to address Organ Shortages is to give Government the license to just coerce citizens into giving up parts of their body for basically jack all. I bet this bill probably doesn't even cover the medical cost incurred (despite said prisoners be interned).
Total clown country. | [
"It is unethical and depraved. You're using coercive force to steal people's fucking organs.",
">\n\nAnd if ones hesitates in arriving at the same conclusion, they need a label.",
">\n\nI mean it is illegal to take money/compensation for an organ donation, and violations are taken extremely seriously (even if both parties are ok with it). How is this any different?",
">\n\nWhat about toes? Do they need toes? I can get you a toe by 3 o’clock this afternoon. With nail polish.",
">\n\nGive a kidney lose a year? What the fuck is going on here?",
">\n\nLEXX was not supposed to be taken literally...",
">\n\nToo bad, Next up on the Republicans platform was box raised wives",
">\n\nThis time it's Democrats.",
">\n\nTomato, tomato\n(but I mean Republicans are already going down the women =property thing)"
] |
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If they're your organs, it's your body and you should have the choice to donate an organ for whatever reason you want. | [
"It is unethical and depraved. You're using coercive force to steal people's fucking organs.",
">\n\nAnd if ones hesitates in arriving at the same conclusion, they need a label.",
">\n\nI mean it is illegal to take money/compensation for an organ donation, and violations are taken extremely seriously (even if both parties are ok with it). How is this any different?",
">\n\nWhat about toes? Do they need toes? I can get you a toe by 3 o’clock this afternoon. With nail polish.",
">\n\nGive a kidney lose a year? What the fuck is going on here?",
">\n\nLEXX was not supposed to be taken literally...",
">\n\nToo bad, Next up on the Republicans platform was box raised wives",
">\n\nThis time it's Democrats.",
">\n\nTomato, tomato\n(but I mean Republicans are already going down the women =property thing)",
">\n\nGlad to see the Mass. legislature is eager about Roe v Wade being overturned. \nIts disgusting to see that the first answer these people come up with to address Organ Shortages is to give Government the license to just coerce citizens into giving up parts of their body for basically jack all. I bet this bill probably doesn't even cover the medical cost incurred (despite said prisoners be interned).\nTotal clown country."
] |
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It's not a free choice if you are a slave, its manipulation and coercion. It would be very different if this was for free private citizens, but this is specifically targeting people the government has basically enslaved into concentration camps. To call our prison system anything nicer than that would be to sugarcoat the truth. | [
"It is unethical and depraved. You're using coercive force to steal people's fucking organs.",
">\n\nAnd if ones hesitates in arriving at the same conclusion, they need a label.",
">\n\nI mean it is illegal to take money/compensation for an organ donation, and violations are taken extremely seriously (even if both parties are ok with it). How is this any different?",
">\n\nWhat about toes? Do they need toes? I can get you a toe by 3 o’clock this afternoon. With nail polish.",
">\n\nGive a kidney lose a year? What the fuck is going on here?",
">\n\nLEXX was not supposed to be taken literally...",
">\n\nToo bad, Next up on the Republicans platform was box raised wives",
">\n\nThis time it's Democrats.",
">\n\nTomato, tomato\n(but I mean Republicans are already going down the women =property thing)",
">\n\nGlad to see the Mass. legislature is eager about Roe v Wade being overturned. \nIts disgusting to see that the first answer these people come up with to address Organ Shortages is to give Government the license to just coerce citizens into giving up parts of their body for basically jack all. I bet this bill probably doesn't even cover the medical cost incurred (despite said prisoners be interned).\nTotal clown country.",
">\n\nIf they're your organs, it's your body and you should have the choice to donate an organ for whatever reason you want."
] |
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Valid point. It would also make me nervous that "we need more laws to get more prisoners, because we need more organ donors" could be a legitimate political take. | [
"It is unethical and depraved. You're using coercive force to steal people's fucking organs.",
">\n\nAnd if ones hesitates in arriving at the same conclusion, they need a label.",
">\n\nI mean it is illegal to take money/compensation for an organ donation, and violations are taken extremely seriously (even if both parties are ok with it). How is this any different?",
">\n\nWhat about toes? Do they need toes? I can get you a toe by 3 o’clock this afternoon. With nail polish.",
">\n\nGive a kidney lose a year? What the fuck is going on here?",
">\n\nLEXX was not supposed to be taken literally...",
">\n\nToo bad, Next up on the Republicans platform was box raised wives",
">\n\nThis time it's Democrats.",
">\n\nTomato, tomato\n(but I mean Republicans are already going down the women =property thing)",
">\n\nGlad to see the Mass. legislature is eager about Roe v Wade being overturned. \nIts disgusting to see that the first answer these people come up with to address Organ Shortages is to give Government the license to just coerce citizens into giving up parts of their body for basically jack all. I bet this bill probably doesn't even cover the medical cost incurred (despite said prisoners be interned).\nTotal clown country.",
">\n\nIf they're your organs, it's your body and you should have the choice to donate an organ for whatever reason you want.",
">\n\nIt's not a free choice if you are a slave, its manipulation and coercion. It would be very different if this was for free private citizens, but this is specifically targeting people the government has basically enslaved into concentration camps. To call our prison system anything nicer than that would be to sugarcoat the truth."
] |
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And given all the bullshit laws that are snuck in that they can get you on... Weed offenses, for example..
And of course if you bring it up, you get the classic "iGnOrAnCe oF tHe lAw iS nO eXcuSe".... | [
"It is unethical and depraved. You're using coercive force to steal people's fucking organs.",
">\n\nAnd if ones hesitates in arriving at the same conclusion, they need a label.",
">\n\nI mean it is illegal to take money/compensation for an organ donation, and violations are taken extremely seriously (even if both parties are ok with it). How is this any different?",
">\n\nWhat about toes? Do they need toes? I can get you a toe by 3 o’clock this afternoon. With nail polish.",
">\n\nGive a kidney lose a year? What the fuck is going on here?",
">\n\nLEXX was not supposed to be taken literally...",
">\n\nToo bad, Next up on the Republicans platform was box raised wives",
">\n\nThis time it's Democrats.",
">\n\nTomato, tomato\n(but I mean Republicans are already going down the women =property thing)",
">\n\nGlad to see the Mass. legislature is eager about Roe v Wade being overturned. \nIts disgusting to see that the first answer these people come up with to address Organ Shortages is to give Government the license to just coerce citizens into giving up parts of their body for basically jack all. I bet this bill probably doesn't even cover the medical cost incurred (despite said prisoners be interned).\nTotal clown country.",
">\n\nIf they're your organs, it's your body and you should have the choice to donate an organ for whatever reason you want.",
">\n\nIt's not a free choice if you are a slave, its manipulation and coercion. It would be very different if this was for free private citizens, but this is specifically targeting people the government has basically enslaved into concentration camps. To call our prison system anything nicer than that would be to sugarcoat the truth.",
">\n\nValid point. It would also make me nervous that \"we need more laws to get more prisoners, because we need more organ donors\" could be a legitimate political take."
] |
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This is fucked up. Hope this goes to r/all | [
"It is unethical and depraved. You're using coercive force to steal people's fucking organs.",
">\n\nAnd if ones hesitates in arriving at the same conclusion, they need a label.",
">\n\nI mean it is illegal to take money/compensation for an organ donation, and violations are taken extremely seriously (even if both parties are ok with it). How is this any different?",
">\n\nWhat about toes? Do they need toes? I can get you a toe by 3 o’clock this afternoon. With nail polish.",
">\n\nGive a kidney lose a year? What the fuck is going on here?",
">\n\nLEXX was not supposed to be taken literally...",
">\n\nToo bad, Next up on the Republicans platform was box raised wives",
">\n\nThis time it's Democrats.",
">\n\nTomato, tomato\n(but I mean Republicans are already going down the women =property thing)",
">\n\nGlad to see the Mass. legislature is eager about Roe v Wade being overturned. \nIts disgusting to see that the first answer these people come up with to address Organ Shortages is to give Government the license to just coerce citizens into giving up parts of their body for basically jack all. I bet this bill probably doesn't even cover the medical cost incurred (despite said prisoners be interned).\nTotal clown country.",
">\n\nIf they're your organs, it's your body and you should have the choice to donate an organ for whatever reason you want.",
">\n\nIt's not a free choice if you are a slave, its manipulation and coercion. It would be very different if this was for free private citizens, but this is specifically targeting people the government has basically enslaved into concentration camps. To call our prison system anything nicer than that would be to sugarcoat the truth.",
">\n\nValid point. It would also make me nervous that \"we need more laws to get more prisoners, because we need more organ donors\" could be a legitimate political take.",
">\n\nAnd given all the bullshit laws that are snuck in that they can get you on... Weed offenses, for example..\nAnd of course if you bring it up, you get the classic \"iGnOrAnCe oF tHe lAw iS nO eXcuSe\"...."
] |
> | [
"It is unethical and depraved. You're using coercive force to steal people's fucking organs.",
">\n\nAnd if ones hesitates in arriving at the same conclusion, they need a label.",
">\n\nI mean it is illegal to take money/compensation for an organ donation, and violations are taken extremely seriously (even if both parties are ok with it). How is this any different?",
">\n\nWhat about toes? Do they need toes? I can get you a toe by 3 o’clock this afternoon. With nail polish.",
">\n\nGive a kidney lose a year? What the fuck is going on here?",
">\n\nLEXX was not supposed to be taken literally...",
">\n\nToo bad, Next up on the Republicans platform was box raised wives",
">\n\nThis time it's Democrats.",
">\n\nTomato, tomato\n(but I mean Republicans are already going down the women =property thing)",
">\n\nGlad to see the Mass. legislature is eager about Roe v Wade being overturned. \nIts disgusting to see that the first answer these people come up with to address Organ Shortages is to give Government the license to just coerce citizens into giving up parts of their body for basically jack all. I bet this bill probably doesn't even cover the medical cost incurred (despite said prisoners be interned).\nTotal clown country.",
">\n\nIf they're your organs, it's your body and you should have the choice to donate an organ for whatever reason you want.",
">\n\nIt's not a free choice if you are a slave, its manipulation and coercion. It would be very different if this was for free private citizens, but this is specifically targeting people the government has basically enslaved into concentration camps. To call our prison system anything nicer than that would be to sugarcoat the truth.",
">\n\nValid point. It would also make me nervous that \"we need more laws to get more prisoners, because we need more organ donors\" could be a legitimate political take.",
">\n\nAnd given all the bullshit laws that are snuck in that they can get you on... Weed offenses, for example..\nAnd of course if you bring it up, you get the classic \"iGnOrAnCe oF tHe lAw iS nO eXcuSe\"....",
">\n\nThis is fucked up. Hope this goes to r/all"
] |
He is tonedeaf, just not in the way that the article is implying.
He is 100% aware of the irony, but his brand of "humor" is so godawful, it makes him think he's being "funny".
I'm pretty sure he pulled the same move last year, too. | [] |
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He's the weird piece of shit who tries to own every joke about himself because he cannot admit shame, regardless of how cringey the attempt to own the joke is.
Honestly, I'm surprised he hasn't tried to joke about being pelted with Whiteclaws. This guy has no basement. | [
"He is tonedeaf, just not in the way that the article is implying. \nHe is 100% aware of the irony, but his brand of \"humor\" is so godawful, it makes him think he's being \"funny\". \nI'm pretty sure he pulled the same move last year, too."
] |
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Do you think Ted is this much on an A-hole by nature, or did he get special coaching? | [
"He is tonedeaf, just not in the way that the article is implying. \nHe is 100% aware of the irony, but his brand of \"humor\" is so godawful, it makes him think he's being \"funny\". \nI'm pretty sure he pulled the same move last year, too.",
">\n\nHe's the weird piece of shit who tries to own every joke about himself because he cannot admit shame, regardless of how cringey the attempt to own the joke is. \nHonestly, I'm surprised he hasn't tried to joke about being pelted with Whiteclaws. This guy has no basement."
] |
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There is a clip of him from like college or late highschool where you can see that he is just naturally an asshole. | [
"He is tonedeaf, just not in the way that the article is implying. \nHe is 100% aware of the irony, but his brand of \"humor\" is so godawful, it makes him think he's being \"funny\". \nI'm pretty sure he pulled the same move last year, too.",
">\n\nHe's the weird piece of shit who tries to own every joke about himself because he cannot admit shame, regardless of how cringey the attempt to own the joke is. \nHonestly, I'm surprised he hasn't tried to joke about being pelted with Whiteclaws. This guy has no basement.",
">\n\nDo you think Ted is this much on an A-hole by nature, or did he get special coaching?"
] |
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I'm always amazed that this guy keeps getting elected. I honestly don't know anyone, even among my republican acquaintances, that actually likes the guy.
I think Al Franken sums it up best:
“I like Ted Cruz more than most of my other colleagues like Ted Cruz. And I hate Ted Cruz.” | [
"He is tonedeaf, just not in the way that the article is implying. \nHe is 100% aware of the irony, but his brand of \"humor\" is so godawful, it makes him think he's being \"funny\". \nI'm pretty sure he pulled the same move last year, too.",
">\n\nHe's the weird piece of shit who tries to own every joke about himself because he cannot admit shame, regardless of how cringey the attempt to own the joke is. \nHonestly, I'm surprised he hasn't tried to joke about being pelted with Whiteclaws. This guy has no basement.",
">\n\nDo you think Ted is this much on an A-hole by nature, or did he get special coaching?",
">\n\nThere is a clip of him from like college or late highschool where you can see that he is just naturally an asshole."
] |
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It’s because of the magic R next to his name.
I hate Lindsey Graham with the fire of a thousand suns but this quote might be one of my favorites:
“If you killed Ted Cruz on the floor of the Senate, and the trial was in the Senate, nobody would convict you”. | [
"He is tonedeaf, just not in the way that the article is implying. \nHe is 100% aware of the irony, but his brand of \"humor\" is so godawful, it makes him think he's being \"funny\". \nI'm pretty sure he pulled the same move last year, too.",
">\n\nHe's the weird piece of shit who tries to own every joke about himself because he cannot admit shame, regardless of how cringey the attempt to own the joke is. \nHonestly, I'm surprised he hasn't tried to joke about being pelted with Whiteclaws. This guy has no basement.",
">\n\nDo you think Ted is this much on an A-hole by nature, or did he get special coaching?",
">\n\nThere is a clip of him from like college or late highschool where you can see that he is just naturally an asshole.",
">\n\nI'm always amazed that this guy keeps getting elected. I honestly don't know anyone, even among my republican acquaintances, that actually likes the guy. \nI think Al Franken sums it up best:\n“I like Ted Cruz more than most of my other colleagues like Ted Cruz. And I hate Ted Cruz.”"
] |
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Where is Fled Cruz off to this time? | [
"He is tonedeaf, just not in the way that the article is implying. \nHe is 100% aware of the irony, but his brand of \"humor\" is so godawful, it makes him think he's being \"funny\". \nI'm pretty sure he pulled the same move last year, too.",
">\n\nHe's the weird piece of shit who tries to own every joke about himself because he cannot admit shame, regardless of how cringey the attempt to own the joke is. \nHonestly, I'm surprised he hasn't tried to joke about being pelted with Whiteclaws. This guy has no basement.",
">\n\nDo you think Ted is this much on an A-hole by nature, or did he get special coaching?",
">\n\nThere is a clip of him from like college or late highschool where you can see that he is just naturally an asshole.",
">\n\nI'm always amazed that this guy keeps getting elected. I honestly don't know anyone, even among my republican acquaintances, that actually likes the guy. \nI think Al Franken sums it up best:\n“I like Ted Cruz more than most of my other colleagues like Ted Cruz. And I hate Ted Cruz.”",
">\n\nIt’s because of the magic R next to his name. \nI hate Lindsey Graham with the fire of a thousand suns but this quote might be one of my favorites:\n“If you killed Ted Cruz on the floor of the Senate, and the trial was in the Senate, nobody would convict you”."
] |
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"Stay warm! That is, if the energy grid that our party has purposefully left in a state of disrepair allows you to!"
Raphael Cruz | [
"He is tonedeaf, just not in the way that the article is implying. \nHe is 100% aware of the irony, but his brand of \"humor\" is so godawful, it makes him think he's being \"funny\". \nI'm pretty sure he pulled the same move last year, too.",
">\n\nHe's the weird piece of shit who tries to own every joke about himself because he cannot admit shame, regardless of how cringey the attempt to own the joke is. \nHonestly, I'm surprised he hasn't tried to joke about being pelted with Whiteclaws. This guy has no basement.",
">\n\nDo you think Ted is this much on an A-hole by nature, or did he get special coaching?",
">\n\nThere is a clip of him from like college or late highschool where you can see that he is just naturally an asshole.",
">\n\nI'm always amazed that this guy keeps getting elected. I honestly don't know anyone, even among my republican acquaintances, that actually likes the guy. \nI think Al Franken sums it up best:\n“I like Ted Cruz more than most of my other colleagues like Ted Cruz. And I hate Ted Cruz.”",
">\n\nIt’s because of the magic R next to his name. \nI hate Lindsey Graham with the fire of a thousand suns but this quote might be one of my favorites:\n“If you killed Ted Cruz on the floor of the Senate, and the trial was in the Senate, nobody would convict you”.",
">\n\nWhere is Fled Cruz off to this time?"
] |
>
YOU BOYS LIKE MEXICO? | [
"He is tonedeaf, just not in the way that the article is implying. \nHe is 100% aware of the irony, but his brand of \"humor\" is so godawful, it makes him think he's being \"funny\". \nI'm pretty sure he pulled the same move last year, too.",
">\n\nHe's the weird piece of shit who tries to own every joke about himself because he cannot admit shame, regardless of how cringey the attempt to own the joke is. \nHonestly, I'm surprised he hasn't tried to joke about being pelted with Whiteclaws. This guy has no basement.",
">\n\nDo you think Ted is this much on an A-hole by nature, or did he get special coaching?",
">\n\nThere is a clip of him from like college or late highschool where you can see that he is just naturally an asshole.",
">\n\nI'm always amazed that this guy keeps getting elected. I honestly don't know anyone, even among my republican acquaintances, that actually likes the guy. \nI think Al Franken sums it up best:\n“I like Ted Cruz more than most of my other colleagues like Ted Cruz. And I hate Ted Cruz.”",
">\n\nIt’s because of the magic R next to his name. \nI hate Lindsey Graham with the fire of a thousand suns but this quote might be one of my favorites:\n“If you killed Ted Cruz on the floor of the Senate, and the trial was in the Senate, nobody would convict you”.",
">\n\nWhere is Fled Cruz off to this time?",
">\n\n\"Stay warm! That is, if the energy grid that our party has purposefully left in a state of disrepair allows you to!\"\n\nRaphael Cruz"
] |
>
the sooner they realize he's not "tone deaf" and just an asshole the better. | [
"He is tonedeaf, just not in the way that the article is implying. \nHe is 100% aware of the irony, but his brand of \"humor\" is so godawful, it makes him think he's being \"funny\". \nI'm pretty sure he pulled the same move last year, too.",
">\n\nHe's the weird piece of shit who tries to own every joke about himself because he cannot admit shame, regardless of how cringey the attempt to own the joke is. \nHonestly, I'm surprised he hasn't tried to joke about being pelted with Whiteclaws. This guy has no basement.",
">\n\nDo you think Ted is this much on an A-hole by nature, or did he get special coaching?",
">\n\nThere is a clip of him from like college or late highschool where you can see that he is just naturally an asshole.",
">\n\nI'm always amazed that this guy keeps getting elected. I honestly don't know anyone, even among my republican acquaintances, that actually likes the guy. \nI think Al Franken sums it up best:\n“I like Ted Cruz more than most of my other colleagues like Ted Cruz. And I hate Ted Cruz.”",
">\n\nIt’s because of the magic R next to his name. \nI hate Lindsey Graham with the fire of a thousand suns but this quote might be one of my favorites:\n“If you killed Ted Cruz on the floor of the Senate, and the trial was in the Senate, nobody would convict you”.",
">\n\nWhere is Fled Cruz off to this time?",
">\n\n\"Stay warm! That is, if the energy grid that our party has purposefully left in a state of disrepair allows you to!\"\n\nRaphael Cruz",
">\n\nYOU BOYS LIKE MEXICO?"
] |
>
Who cares. People who hate him already hate him, and the idiots who love him think it's sweet that he cares so much. | [
"He is tonedeaf, just not in the way that the article is implying. \nHe is 100% aware of the irony, but his brand of \"humor\" is so godawful, it makes him think he's being \"funny\". \nI'm pretty sure he pulled the same move last year, too.",
">\n\nHe's the weird piece of shit who tries to own every joke about himself because he cannot admit shame, regardless of how cringey the attempt to own the joke is. \nHonestly, I'm surprised he hasn't tried to joke about being pelted with Whiteclaws. This guy has no basement.",
">\n\nDo you think Ted is this much on an A-hole by nature, or did he get special coaching?",
">\n\nThere is a clip of him from like college or late highschool where you can see that he is just naturally an asshole.",
">\n\nI'm always amazed that this guy keeps getting elected. I honestly don't know anyone, even among my republican acquaintances, that actually likes the guy. \nI think Al Franken sums it up best:\n“I like Ted Cruz more than most of my other colleagues like Ted Cruz. And I hate Ted Cruz.”",
">\n\nIt’s because of the magic R next to his name. \nI hate Lindsey Graham with the fire of a thousand suns but this quote might be one of my favorites:\n“If you killed Ted Cruz on the floor of the Senate, and the trial was in the Senate, nobody would convict you”.",
">\n\nWhere is Fled Cruz off to this time?",
">\n\n\"Stay warm! That is, if the energy grid that our party has purposefully left in a state of disrepair allows you to!\"\n\nRaphael Cruz",
">\n\nYOU BOYS LIKE MEXICO?",
">\n\nthe sooner they realize he's not \"tone deaf\" and just an asshole the better."
] |
>
i actually don't think too many people actually love him. The biggest block of his voters just want to make sure a Democrat doesn't get elected.
I'd bet out of his voters it's like 1% that genuinely like him as a person. | [
"He is tonedeaf, just not in the way that the article is implying. \nHe is 100% aware of the irony, but his brand of \"humor\" is so godawful, it makes him think he's being \"funny\". \nI'm pretty sure he pulled the same move last year, too.",
">\n\nHe's the weird piece of shit who tries to own every joke about himself because he cannot admit shame, regardless of how cringey the attempt to own the joke is. \nHonestly, I'm surprised he hasn't tried to joke about being pelted with Whiteclaws. This guy has no basement.",
">\n\nDo you think Ted is this much on an A-hole by nature, or did he get special coaching?",
">\n\nThere is a clip of him from like college or late highschool where you can see that he is just naturally an asshole.",
">\n\nI'm always amazed that this guy keeps getting elected. I honestly don't know anyone, even among my republican acquaintances, that actually likes the guy. \nI think Al Franken sums it up best:\n“I like Ted Cruz more than most of my other colleagues like Ted Cruz. And I hate Ted Cruz.”",
">\n\nIt’s because of the magic R next to his name. \nI hate Lindsey Graham with the fire of a thousand suns but this quote might be one of my favorites:\n“If you killed Ted Cruz on the floor of the Senate, and the trial was in the Senate, nobody would convict you”.",
">\n\nWhere is Fled Cruz off to this time?",
">\n\n\"Stay warm! That is, if the energy grid that our party has purposefully left in a state of disrepair allows you to!\"\n\nRaphael Cruz",
">\n\nYOU BOYS LIKE MEXICO?",
">\n\nthe sooner they realize he's not \"tone deaf\" and just an asshole the better.",
">\n\nWho cares. People who hate him already hate him, and the idiots who love him think it's sweet that he cares so much."
] |
>
“I probably like Ted Cruz more than most of my colleagues like Ted Cruz, and I hate Ted Cruz”
Al Franken | [
"He is tonedeaf, just not in the way that the article is implying. \nHe is 100% aware of the irony, but his brand of \"humor\" is so godawful, it makes him think he's being \"funny\". \nI'm pretty sure he pulled the same move last year, too.",
">\n\nHe's the weird piece of shit who tries to own every joke about himself because he cannot admit shame, regardless of how cringey the attempt to own the joke is. \nHonestly, I'm surprised he hasn't tried to joke about being pelted with Whiteclaws. This guy has no basement.",
">\n\nDo you think Ted is this much on an A-hole by nature, or did he get special coaching?",
">\n\nThere is a clip of him from like college or late highschool where you can see that he is just naturally an asshole.",
">\n\nI'm always amazed that this guy keeps getting elected. I honestly don't know anyone, even among my republican acquaintances, that actually likes the guy. \nI think Al Franken sums it up best:\n“I like Ted Cruz more than most of my other colleagues like Ted Cruz. And I hate Ted Cruz.”",
">\n\nIt’s because of the magic R next to his name. \nI hate Lindsey Graham with the fire of a thousand suns but this quote might be one of my favorites:\n“If you killed Ted Cruz on the floor of the Senate, and the trial was in the Senate, nobody would convict you”.",
">\n\nWhere is Fled Cruz off to this time?",
">\n\n\"Stay warm! That is, if the energy grid that our party has purposefully left in a state of disrepair allows you to!\"\n\nRaphael Cruz",
">\n\nYOU BOYS LIKE MEXICO?",
">\n\nthe sooner they realize he's not \"tone deaf\" and just an asshole the better.",
">\n\nWho cares. People who hate him already hate him, and the idiots who love him think it's sweet that he cares so much.",
">\n\ni actually don't think too many people actually love him. The biggest block of his voters just want to make sure a Democrat doesn't get elected.\nI'd bet out of his voters it's like 1% that genuinely like him as a person."
] |
>
Advice from Fled Cruz on how to stay warm in the winter. I’m surprised it didn’t involve sudden vacations on a tropical getaway. | [
"He is tonedeaf, just not in the way that the article is implying. \nHe is 100% aware of the irony, but his brand of \"humor\" is so godawful, it makes him think he's being \"funny\". \nI'm pretty sure he pulled the same move last year, too.",
">\n\nHe's the weird piece of shit who tries to own every joke about himself because he cannot admit shame, regardless of how cringey the attempt to own the joke is. \nHonestly, I'm surprised he hasn't tried to joke about being pelted with Whiteclaws. This guy has no basement.",
">\n\nDo you think Ted is this much on an A-hole by nature, or did he get special coaching?",
">\n\nThere is a clip of him from like college or late highschool where you can see that he is just naturally an asshole.",
">\n\nI'm always amazed that this guy keeps getting elected. I honestly don't know anyone, even among my republican acquaintances, that actually likes the guy. \nI think Al Franken sums it up best:\n“I like Ted Cruz more than most of my other colleagues like Ted Cruz. And I hate Ted Cruz.”",
">\n\nIt’s because of the magic R next to his name. \nI hate Lindsey Graham with the fire of a thousand suns but this quote might be one of my favorites:\n“If you killed Ted Cruz on the floor of the Senate, and the trial was in the Senate, nobody would convict you”.",
">\n\nWhere is Fled Cruz off to this time?",
">\n\n\"Stay warm! That is, if the energy grid that our party has purposefully left in a state of disrepair allows you to!\"\n\nRaphael Cruz",
">\n\nYOU BOYS LIKE MEXICO?",
">\n\nthe sooner they realize he's not \"tone deaf\" and just an asshole the better.",
">\n\nWho cares. People who hate him already hate him, and the idiots who love him think it's sweet that he cares so much.",
">\n\ni actually don't think too many people actually love him. The biggest block of his voters just want to make sure a Democrat doesn't get elected.\nI'd bet out of his voters it's like 1% that genuinely like him as a person.",
">\n\n\n“I probably like Ted Cruz more than most of my colleagues like Ted Cruz, and I hate Ted Cruz” \n\nAl Franken"
] |
>
Funny, folks seem to keep forgetting his concern for the public when it comes time to vote. | [
"He is tonedeaf, just not in the way that the article is implying. \nHe is 100% aware of the irony, but his brand of \"humor\" is so godawful, it makes him think he's being \"funny\". \nI'm pretty sure he pulled the same move last year, too.",
">\n\nHe's the weird piece of shit who tries to own every joke about himself because he cannot admit shame, regardless of how cringey the attempt to own the joke is. \nHonestly, I'm surprised he hasn't tried to joke about being pelted with Whiteclaws. This guy has no basement.",
">\n\nDo you think Ted is this much on an A-hole by nature, or did he get special coaching?",
">\n\nThere is a clip of him from like college or late highschool where you can see that he is just naturally an asshole.",
">\n\nI'm always amazed that this guy keeps getting elected. I honestly don't know anyone, even among my republican acquaintances, that actually likes the guy. \nI think Al Franken sums it up best:\n“I like Ted Cruz more than most of my other colleagues like Ted Cruz. And I hate Ted Cruz.”",
">\n\nIt’s because of the magic R next to his name. \nI hate Lindsey Graham with the fire of a thousand suns but this quote might be one of my favorites:\n“If you killed Ted Cruz on the floor of the Senate, and the trial was in the Senate, nobody would convict you”.",
">\n\nWhere is Fled Cruz off to this time?",
">\n\n\"Stay warm! That is, if the energy grid that our party has purposefully left in a state of disrepair allows you to!\"\n\nRaphael Cruz",
">\n\nYOU BOYS LIKE MEXICO?",
">\n\nthe sooner they realize he's not \"tone deaf\" and just an asshole the better.",
">\n\nWho cares. People who hate him already hate him, and the idiots who love him think it's sweet that he cares so much.",
">\n\ni actually don't think too many people actually love him. The biggest block of his voters just want to make sure a Democrat doesn't get elected.\nI'd bet out of his voters it's like 1% that genuinely like him as a person.",
">\n\n\n“I probably like Ted Cruz more than most of my colleagues like Ted Cruz, and I hate Ted Cruz” \n\nAl Franken",
">\n\nAdvice from Fled Cruz on how to stay warm in the winter. I’m surprised it didn’t involve sudden vacations on a tropical getaway."
] |
>
And Texans will still vote this schmuck in for reelection | [
"He is tonedeaf, just not in the way that the article is implying. \nHe is 100% aware of the irony, but his brand of \"humor\" is so godawful, it makes him think he's being \"funny\". \nI'm pretty sure he pulled the same move last year, too.",
">\n\nHe's the weird piece of shit who tries to own every joke about himself because he cannot admit shame, regardless of how cringey the attempt to own the joke is. \nHonestly, I'm surprised he hasn't tried to joke about being pelted with Whiteclaws. This guy has no basement.",
">\n\nDo you think Ted is this much on an A-hole by nature, or did he get special coaching?",
">\n\nThere is a clip of him from like college or late highschool where you can see that he is just naturally an asshole.",
">\n\nI'm always amazed that this guy keeps getting elected. I honestly don't know anyone, even among my republican acquaintances, that actually likes the guy. \nI think Al Franken sums it up best:\n“I like Ted Cruz more than most of my other colleagues like Ted Cruz. And I hate Ted Cruz.”",
">\n\nIt’s because of the magic R next to his name. \nI hate Lindsey Graham with the fire of a thousand suns but this quote might be one of my favorites:\n“If you killed Ted Cruz on the floor of the Senate, and the trial was in the Senate, nobody would convict you”.",
">\n\nWhere is Fled Cruz off to this time?",
">\n\n\"Stay warm! That is, if the energy grid that our party has purposefully left in a state of disrepair allows you to!\"\n\nRaphael Cruz",
">\n\nYOU BOYS LIKE MEXICO?",
">\n\nthe sooner they realize he's not \"tone deaf\" and just an asshole the better.",
">\n\nWho cares. People who hate him already hate him, and the idiots who love him think it's sweet that he cares so much.",
">\n\ni actually don't think too many people actually love him. The biggest block of his voters just want to make sure a Democrat doesn't get elected.\nI'd bet out of his voters it's like 1% that genuinely like him as a person.",
">\n\n\n“I probably like Ted Cruz more than most of my colleagues like Ted Cruz, and I hate Ted Cruz” \n\nAl Franken",
">\n\nAdvice from Fled Cruz on how to stay warm in the winter. I’m surprised it didn’t involve sudden vacations on a tropical getaway.",
">\n\nFunny, folks seem to keep forgetting his concern for the public when it comes time to vote."
] |
>
They voted for him, own your failure failures | [
"He is tonedeaf, just not in the way that the article is implying. \nHe is 100% aware of the irony, but his brand of \"humor\" is so godawful, it makes him think he's being \"funny\". \nI'm pretty sure he pulled the same move last year, too.",
">\n\nHe's the weird piece of shit who tries to own every joke about himself because he cannot admit shame, regardless of how cringey the attempt to own the joke is. \nHonestly, I'm surprised he hasn't tried to joke about being pelted with Whiteclaws. This guy has no basement.",
">\n\nDo you think Ted is this much on an A-hole by nature, or did he get special coaching?",
">\n\nThere is a clip of him from like college or late highschool where you can see that he is just naturally an asshole.",
">\n\nI'm always amazed that this guy keeps getting elected. I honestly don't know anyone, even among my republican acquaintances, that actually likes the guy. \nI think Al Franken sums it up best:\n“I like Ted Cruz more than most of my other colleagues like Ted Cruz. And I hate Ted Cruz.”",
">\n\nIt’s because of the magic R next to his name. \nI hate Lindsey Graham with the fire of a thousand suns but this quote might be one of my favorites:\n“If you killed Ted Cruz on the floor of the Senate, and the trial was in the Senate, nobody would convict you”.",
">\n\nWhere is Fled Cruz off to this time?",
">\n\n\"Stay warm! That is, if the energy grid that our party has purposefully left in a state of disrepair allows you to!\"\n\nRaphael Cruz",
">\n\nYOU BOYS LIKE MEXICO?",
">\n\nthe sooner they realize he's not \"tone deaf\" and just an asshole the better.",
">\n\nWho cares. People who hate him already hate him, and the idiots who love him think it's sweet that he cares so much.",
">\n\ni actually don't think too many people actually love him. The biggest block of his voters just want to make sure a Democrat doesn't get elected.\nI'd bet out of his voters it's like 1% that genuinely like him as a person.",
">\n\n\n“I probably like Ted Cruz more than most of my colleagues like Ted Cruz, and I hate Ted Cruz” \n\nAl Franken",
">\n\nAdvice from Fled Cruz on how to stay warm in the winter. I’m surprised it didn’t involve sudden vacations on a tropical getaway.",
">\n\nFunny, folks seem to keep forgetting his concern for the public when it comes time to vote.",
">\n\nAnd Texans will still vote this schmuck in for reelection"
] |
>
No folks, he didn’t shave that hideous beard as the thumbnail makes you think | [
"He is tonedeaf, just not in the way that the article is implying. \nHe is 100% aware of the irony, but his brand of \"humor\" is so godawful, it makes him think he's being \"funny\". \nI'm pretty sure he pulled the same move last year, too.",
">\n\nHe's the weird piece of shit who tries to own every joke about himself because he cannot admit shame, regardless of how cringey the attempt to own the joke is. \nHonestly, I'm surprised he hasn't tried to joke about being pelted with Whiteclaws. This guy has no basement.",
">\n\nDo you think Ted is this much on an A-hole by nature, or did he get special coaching?",
">\n\nThere is a clip of him from like college or late highschool where you can see that he is just naturally an asshole.",
">\n\nI'm always amazed that this guy keeps getting elected. I honestly don't know anyone, even among my republican acquaintances, that actually likes the guy. \nI think Al Franken sums it up best:\n“I like Ted Cruz more than most of my other colleagues like Ted Cruz. And I hate Ted Cruz.”",
">\n\nIt’s because of the magic R next to his name. \nI hate Lindsey Graham with the fire of a thousand suns but this quote might be one of my favorites:\n“If you killed Ted Cruz on the floor of the Senate, and the trial was in the Senate, nobody would convict you”.",
">\n\nWhere is Fled Cruz off to this time?",
">\n\n\"Stay warm! That is, if the energy grid that our party has purposefully left in a state of disrepair allows you to!\"\n\nRaphael Cruz",
">\n\nYOU BOYS LIKE MEXICO?",
">\n\nthe sooner they realize he's not \"tone deaf\" and just an asshole the better.",
">\n\nWho cares. People who hate him already hate him, and the idiots who love him think it's sweet that he cares so much.",
">\n\ni actually don't think too many people actually love him. The biggest block of his voters just want to make sure a Democrat doesn't get elected.\nI'd bet out of his voters it's like 1% that genuinely like him as a person.",
">\n\n\n“I probably like Ted Cruz more than most of my colleagues like Ted Cruz, and I hate Ted Cruz” \n\nAl Franken",
">\n\nAdvice from Fled Cruz on how to stay warm in the winter. I’m surprised it didn’t involve sudden vacations on a tropical getaway.",
">\n\nFunny, folks seem to keep forgetting his concern for the public when it comes time to vote.",
">\n\nAnd Texans will still vote this schmuck in for reelection",
">\n\nThey voted for him, own your failure failures"
] |
> | [
"He is tonedeaf, just not in the way that the article is implying. \nHe is 100% aware of the irony, but his brand of \"humor\" is so godawful, it makes him think he's being \"funny\". \nI'm pretty sure he pulled the same move last year, too.",
">\n\nHe's the weird piece of shit who tries to own every joke about himself because he cannot admit shame, regardless of how cringey the attempt to own the joke is. \nHonestly, I'm surprised he hasn't tried to joke about being pelted with Whiteclaws. This guy has no basement.",
">\n\nDo you think Ted is this much on an A-hole by nature, or did he get special coaching?",
">\n\nThere is a clip of him from like college or late highschool where you can see that he is just naturally an asshole.",
">\n\nI'm always amazed that this guy keeps getting elected. I honestly don't know anyone, even among my republican acquaintances, that actually likes the guy. \nI think Al Franken sums it up best:\n“I like Ted Cruz more than most of my other colleagues like Ted Cruz. And I hate Ted Cruz.”",
">\n\nIt’s because of the magic R next to his name. \nI hate Lindsey Graham with the fire of a thousand suns but this quote might be one of my favorites:\n“If you killed Ted Cruz on the floor of the Senate, and the trial was in the Senate, nobody would convict you”.",
">\n\nWhere is Fled Cruz off to this time?",
">\n\n\"Stay warm! That is, if the energy grid that our party has purposefully left in a state of disrepair allows you to!\"\n\nRaphael Cruz",
">\n\nYOU BOYS LIKE MEXICO?",
">\n\nthe sooner they realize he's not \"tone deaf\" and just an asshole the better.",
">\n\nWho cares. People who hate him already hate him, and the idiots who love him think it's sweet that he cares so much.",
">\n\ni actually don't think too many people actually love him. The biggest block of his voters just want to make sure a Democrat doesn't get elected.\nI'd bet out of his voters it's like 1% that genuinely like him as a person.",
">\n\n\n“I probably like Ted Cruz more than most of my colleagues like Ted Cruz, and I hate Ted Cruz” \n\nAl Franken",
">\n\nAdvice from Fled Cruz on how to stay warm in the winter. I’m surprised it didn’t involve sudden vacations on a tropical getaway.",
">\n\nFunny, folks seem to keep forgetting his concern for the public when it comes time to vote.",
">\n\nAnd Texans will still vote this schmuck in for reelection",
">\n\nThey voted for him, own your failure failures",
">\n\nNo folks, he didn’t shave that hideous beard as the thumbnail makes you think"
] |
1996 came and that game changed console video games forever.
Not everyone could handle giant penguins and icy slides. | [] |
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Time makes old technology look shitty. The first automobiles were crap by today's standards. | [
"1996 came and that game changed console video games forever. \nNot everyone could handle giant penguins and icy slides."
] |
>
Completely agree, but I'd have to counter by saying that I find a good chunk of the game's contemporary 3D platformers to have aged quite well. | [
"1996 came and that game changed console video games forever. \nNot everyone could handle giant penguins and icy slides.",
">\n\nTime makes old technology look shitty. The first automobiles were crap by today's standards."
] |
>
I don't really know if that game has any contemporaries. It was literally the first of it's kind. | [
"1996 came and that game changed console video games forever. \nNot everyone could handle giant penguins and icy slides.",
">\n\nTime makes old technology look shitty. The first automobiles were crap by today's standards.",
">\n\nCompletely agree, but I'd have to counter by saying that I find a good chunk of the game's contemporary 3D platformers to have aged quite well."
] |
>
Ah, I should clarify I meant in the sense of its console generation, so anywhere between 1996-2001 approx.
I guess it's main true 'contemporary' would be Crash Bandicoot 1 which released the same year. While both take very distinct approaches to 3d platforming, I do believe Crash Bandicoot succeeded in a lot more areas as a game than SM64 even if it's not quite as ambitious.
I fully acknowledge its the first of its kind and absolutely groundbreaking, though I still find it to be a rather poor game. Other groundbreaking titles that revolutionised the industry (Super Mario Bros, Zelda etc.) are both extremely innovative and very competent games in their own right. | [
"1996 came and that game changed console video games forever. \nNot everyone could handle giant penguins and icy slides.",
">\n\nTime makes old technology look shitty. The first automobiles were crap by today's standards.",
">\n\nCompletely agree, but I'd have to counter by saying that I find a good chunk of the game's contemporary 3D platformers to have aged quite well.",
">\n\nI don't really know if that game has any contemporaries. It was literally the first of it's kind."
] |
>
I'd argue that those other games weren't anywhere near the leap forward that moving from 2D to 3D was. It's not comparable IMO. | [
"1996 came and that game changed console video games forever. \nNot everyone could handle giant penguins and icy slides.",
">\n\nTime makes old technology look shitty. The first automobiles were crap by today's standards.",
">\n\nCompletely agree, but I'd have to counter by saying that I find a good chunk of the game's contemporary 3D platformers to have aged quite well.",
">\n\nI don't really know if that game has any contemporaries. It was literally the first of it's kind.",
">\n\nAh, I should clarify I meant in the sense of its console generation, so anywhere between 1996-2001 approx. \nI guess it's main true 'contemporary' would be Crash Bandicoot 1 which released the same year. While both take very distinct approaches to 3d platforming, I do believe Crash Bandicoot succeeded in a lot more areas as a game than SM64 even if it's not quite as ambitious. \nI fully acknowledge its the first of its kind and absolutely groundbreaking, though I still find it to be a rather poor game. Other groundbreaking titles that revolutionised the industry (Super Mario Bros, Zelda etc.) are both extremely innovative and very competent games in their own right."
] |
>
In terms of raw technology, SM64 is clearly the more groundbreaking title. From a game design perspective, the influence of Super Mario Bros and Zelda 1 has seeped into nearly every facet of gaming as has SM64. In that respect, they are absolutely comparable.
I don't deny how revolutionary SM64 is, but I would argue its not quite the unprecedanted leap forward that it is generally held to be. There's some really excellent games 3D platformers like Jumping Flash! (released a full year before SM64) that codified many of the 3D platforming tropes still around today (slight tangent but if you ever have the chance, give it a shot! Jumping Flash! is a bit of an underrated diamond in the rough 😀) | [
"1996 came and that game changed console video games forever. \nNot everyone could handle giant penguins and icy slides.",
">\n\nTime makes old technology look shitty. The first automobiles were crap by today's standards.",
">\n\nCompletely agree, but I'd have to counter by saying that I find a good chunk of the game's contemporary 3D platformers to have aged quite well.",
">\n\nI don't really know if that game has any contemporaries. It was literally the first of it's kind.",
">\n\nAh, I should clarify I meant in the sense of its console generation, so anywhere between 1996-2001 approx. \nI guess it's main true 'contemporary' would be Crash Bandicoot 1 which released the same year. While both take very distinct approaches to 3d platforming, I do believe Crash Bandicoot succeeded in a lot more areas as a game than SM64 even if it's not quite as ambitious. \nI fully acknowledge its the first of its kind and absolutely groundbreaking, though I still find it to be a rather poor game. Other groundbreaking titles that revolutionised the industry (Super Mario Bros, Zelda etc.) are both extremely innovative and very competent games in their own right.",
">\n\nI'd argue that those other games weren't anywhere near the leap forward that moving from 2D to 3D was. It's not comparable IMO."
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I remember Jumping Flash. While it was fun-ish for its time, it still wasn't the leap forward SM64 was. For one, the graphics weren't anywhere near as good. Also, Jumping Flash and the same "tank" style controls that Resident Evil had, while SM64 was way more fluid. Hell, I'd even argue that this game is why games switched from D-Pads to analog sticks.
But I do agree about Super Mario Bros. and Zelda being big leaps forward. I just don't agree that it's anywhere near as big as the leap from 2D to 3D. | [
"1996 came and that game changed console video games forever. \nNot everyone could handle giant penguins and icy slides.",
">\n\nTime makes old technology look shitty. The first automobiles were crap by today's standards.",
">\n\nCompletely agree, but I'd have to counter by saying that I find a good chunk of the game's contemporary 3D platformers to have aged quite well.",
">\n\nI don't really know if that game has any contemporaries. It was literally the first of it's kind.",
">\n\nAh, I should clarify I meant in the sense of its console generation, so anywhere between 1996-2001 approx. \nI guess it's main true 'contemporary' would be Crash Bandicoot 1 which released the same year. While both take very distinct approaches to 3d platforming, I do believe Crash Bandicoot succeeded in a lot more areas as a game than SM64 even if it's not quite as ambitious. \nI fully acknowledge its the first of its kind and absolutely groundbreaking, though I still find it to be a rather poor game. Other groundbreaking titles that revolutionised the industry (Super Mario Bros, Zelda etc.) are both extremely innovative and very competent games in their own right.",
">\n\nI'd argue that those other games weren't anywhere near the leap forward that moving from 2D to 3D was. It's not comparable IMO.",
">\n\nIn terms of raw technology, SM64 is clearly the more groundbreaking title. From a game design perspective, the influence of Super Mario Bros and Zelda 1 has seeped into nearly every facet of gaming as has SM64. In that respect, they are absolutely comparable. \nI don't deny how revolutionary SM64 is, but I would argue its not quite the unprecedanted leap forward that it is generally held to be. There's some really excellent games 3D platformers like Jumping Flash! (released a full year before SM64) that codified many of the 3D platforming tropes still around today (slight tangent but if you ever have the chance, give it a shot! Jumping Flash! is a bit of an underrated diamond in the rough 😀)"
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Unless you played the game when it came out, you'll never understand just how mind-blowing it was back then. | [
"1996 came and that game changed console video games forever. \nNot everyone could handle giant penguins and icy slides.",
">\n\nTime makes old technology look shitty. The first automobiles were crap by today's standards.",
">\n\nCompletely agree, but I'd have to counter by saying that I find a good chunk of the game's contemporary 3D platformers to have aged quite well.",
">\n\nI don't really know if that game has any contemporaries. It was literally the first of it's kind.",
">\n\nAh, I should clarify I meant in the sense of its console generation, so anywhere between 1996-2001 approx. \nI guess it's main true 'contemporary' would be Crash Bandicoot 1 which released the same year. While both take very distinct approaches to 3d platforming, I do believe Crash Bandicoot succeeded in a lot more areas as a game than SM64 even if it's not quite as ambitious. \nI fully acknowledge its the first of its kind and absolutely groundbreaking, though I still find it to be a rather poor game. Other groundbreaking titles that revolutionised the industry (Super Mario Bros, Zelda etc.) are both extremely innovative and very competent games in their own right.",
">\n\nI'd argue that those other games weren't anywhere near the leap forward that moving from 2D to 3D was. It's not comparable IMO.",
">\n\nIn terms of raw technology, SM64 is clearly the more groundbreaking title. From a game design perspective, the influence of Super Mario Bros and Zelda 1 has seeped into nearly every facet of gaming as has SM64. In that respect, they are absolutely comparable. \nI don't deny how revolutionary SM64 is, but I would argue its not quite the unprecedanted leap forward that it is generally held to be. There's some really excellent games 3D platformers like Jumping Flash! (released a full year before SM64) that codified many of the 3D platforming tropes still around today (slight tangent but if you ever have the chance, give it a shot! Jumping Flash! is a bit of an underrated diamond in the rough 😀)",
">\n\nI remember Jumping Flash. While it was fun-ish for its time, it still wasn't the leap forward SM64 was. For one, the graphics weren't anywhere near as good. Also, Jumping Flash and the same \"tank\" style controls that Resident Evil had, while SM64 was way more fluid. Hell, I'd even argue that this game is why games switched from D-Pads to analog sticks. \nBut I do agree about Super Mario Bros. and Zelda being big leaps forward. I just don't agree that it's anywhere near as big as the leap from 2D to 3D."
] |
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It sure isnt, and it never was, not even back in 96 when it released. It had an abysmal camera and bad controls for strarters. And visually, the jump from 2d to 3d did Mario dirty. SMW looked gorgeous, fantastic, whimsical. SM64 looked horrible. The thing that made it stand out its just the change in technology. N64 was a transitional console. | [
"1996 came and that game changed console video games forever. \nNot everyone could handle giant penguins and icy slides.",
">\n\nTime makes old technology look shitty. The first automobiles were crap by today's standards.",
">\n\nCompletely agree, but I'd have to counter by saying that I find a good chunk of the game's contemporary 3D platformers to have aged quite well.",
">\n\nI don't really know if that game has any contemporaries. It was literally the first of it's kind.",
">\n\nAh, I should clarify I meant in the sense of its console generation, so anywhere between 1996-2001 approx. \nI guess it's main true 'contemporary' would be Crash Bandicoot 1 which released the same year. While both take very distinct approaches to 3d platforming, I do believe Crash Bandicoot succeeded in a lot more areas as a game than SM64 even if it's not quite as ambitious. \nI fully acknowledge its the first of its kind and absolutely groundbreaking, though I still find it to be a rather poor game. Other groundbreaking titles that revolutionised the industry (Super Mario Bros, Zelda etc.) are both extremely innovative and very competent games in their own right.",
">\n\nI'd argue that those other games weren't anywhere near the leap forward that moving from 2D to 3D was. It's not comparable IMO.",
">\n\nIn terms of raw technology, SM64 is clearly the more groundbreaking title. From a game design perspective, the influence of Super Mario Bros and Zelda 1 has seeped into nearly every facet of gaming as has SM64. In that respect, they are absolutely comparable. \nI don't deny how revolutionary SM64 is, but I would argue its not quite the unprecedanted leap forward that it is generally held to be. There's some really excellent games 3D platformers like Jumping Flash! (released a full year before SM64) that codified many of the 3D platforming tropes still around today (slight tangent but if you ever have the chance, give it a shot! Jumping Flash! is a bit of an underrated diamond in the rough 😀)",
">\n\nI remember Jumping Flash. While it was fun-ish for its time, it still wasn't the leap forward SM64 was. For one, the graphics weren't anywhere near as good. Also, Jumping Flash and the same \"tank\" style controls that Resident Evil had, while SM64 was way more fluid. Hell, I'd even argue that this game is why games switched from D-Pads to analog sticks. \nBut I do agree about Super Mario Bros. and Zelda being big leaps forward. I just don't agree that it's anywhere near as big as the leap from 2D to 3D.",
">\n\nUnless you played the game when it came out, you'll never understand just how mind-blowing it was back then."
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I'll sue you | [
"1996 came and that game changed console video games forever. \nNot everyone could handle giant penguins and icy slides.",
">\n\nTime makes old technology look shitty. The first automobiles were crap by today's standards.",
">\n\nCompletely agree, but I'd have to counter by saying that I find a good chunk of the game's contemporary 3D platformers to have aged quite well.",
">\n\nI don't really know if that game has any contemporaries. It was literally the first of it's kind.",
">\n\nAh, I should clarify I meant in the sense of its console generation, so anywhere between 1996-2001 approx. \nI guess it's main true 'contemporary' would be Crash Bandicoot 1 which released the same year. While both take very distinct approaches to 3d platforming, I do believe Crash Bandicoot succeeded in a lot more areas as a game than SM64 even if it's not quite as ambitious. \nI fully acknowledge its the first of its kind and absolutely groundbreaking, though I still find it to be a rather poor game. Other groundbreaking titles that revolutionised the industry (Super Mario Bros, Zelda etc.) are both extremely innovative and very competent games in their own right.",
">\n\nI'd argue that those other games weren't anywhere near the leap forward that moving from 2D to 3D was. It's not comparable IMO.",
">\n\nIn terms of raw technology, SM64 is clearly the more groundbreaking title. From a game design perspective, the influence of Super Mario Bros and Zelda 1 has seeped into nearly every facet of gaming as has SM64. In that respect, they are absolutely comparable. \nI don't deny how revolutionary SM64 is, but I would argue its not quite the unprecedanted leap forward that it is generally held to be. There's some really excellent games 3D platformers like Jumping Flash! (released a full year before SM64) that codified many of the 3D platforming tropes still around today (slight tangent but if you ever have the chance, give it a shot! Jumping Flash! is a bit of an underrated diamond in the rough 😀)",
">\n\nI remember Jumping Flash. While it was fun-ish for its time, it still wasn't the leap forward SM64 was. For one, the graphics weren't anywhere near as good. Also, Jumping Flash and the same \"tank\" style controls that Resident Evil had, while SM64 was way more fluid. Hell, I'd even argue that this game is why games switched from D-Pads to analog sticks. \nBut I do agree about Super Mario Bros. and Zelda being big leaps forward. I just don't agree that it's anywhere near as big as the leap from 2D to 3D.",
">\n\nUnless you played the game when it came out, you'll never understand just how mind-blowing it was back then.",
">\n\nIt sure isnt, and it never was, not even back in 96 when it released. It had an abysmal camera and bad controls for strarters. And visually, the jump from 2d to 3d did Mario dirty. SMW looked gorgeous, fantastic, whimsical. SM64 looked horrible. The thing that made it stand out its just the change in technology. N64 was a transitional console."
] |
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your average and even above-average player will struggle to get the most out of the moveset.
Sorry, but only your below average player would struggle with Mario 64's move set. Mario controls incredibly well in 64 and is very easy to control on top of it.
If you just don't like the camera, that's completely different. The camera is often fixed in place to add an extra challenge, which many people rage about and incorrectly call bad controls. But it's really just a more challenging platforming section, that would've been trivial if you could move the camera behind Mario. | [
"1996 came and that game changed console video games forever. \nNot everyone could handle giant penguins and icy slides.",
">\n\nTime makes old technology look shitty. The first automobiles were crap by today's standards.",
">\n\nCompletely agree, but I'd have to counter by saying that I find a good chunk of the game's contemporary 3D platformers to have aged quite well.",
">\n\nI don't really know if that game has any contemporaries. It was literally the first of it's kind.",
">\n\nAh, I should clarify I meant in the sense of its console generation, so anywhere between 1996-2001 approx. \nI guess it's main true 'contemporary' would be Crash Bandicoot 1 which released the same year. While both take very distinct approaches to 3d platforming, I do believe Crash Bandicoot succeeded in a lot more areas as a game than SM64 even if it's not quite as ambitious. \nI fully acknowledge its the first of its kind and absolutely groundbreaking, though I still find it to be a rather poor game. Other groundbreaking titles that revolutionised the industry (Super Mario Bros, Zelda etc.) are both extremely innovative and very competent games in their own right.",
">\n\nI'd argue that those other games weren't anywhere near the leap forward that moving from 2D to 3D was. It's not comparable IMO.",
">\n\nIn terms of raw technology, SM64 is clearly the more groundbreaking title. From a game design perspective, the influence of Super Mario Bros and Zelda 1 has seeped into nearly every facet of gaming as has SM64. In that respect, they are absolutely comparable. \nI don't deny how revolutionary SM64 is, but I would argue its not quite the unprecedanted leap forward that it is generally held to be. There's some really excellent games 3D platformers like Jumping Flash! (released a full year before SM64) that codified many of the 3D platforming tropes still around today (slight tangent but if you ever have the chance, give it a shot! Jumping Flash! is a bit of an underrated diamond in the rough 😀)",
">\n\nI remember Jumping Flash. While it was fun-ish for its time, it still wasn't the leap forward SM64 was. For one, the graphics weren't anywhere near as good. Also, Jumping Flash and the same \"tank\" style controls that Resident Evil had, while SM64 was way more fluid. Hell, I'd even argue that this game is why games switched from D-Pads to analog sticks. \nBut I do agree about Super Mario Bros. and Zelda being big leaps forward. I just don't agree that it's anywhere near as big as the leap from 2D to 3D.",
">\n\nUnless you played the game when it came out, you'll never understand just how mind-blowing it was back then.",
">\n\nIt sure isnt, and it never was, not even back in 96 when it released. It had an abysmal camera and bad controls for strarters. And visually, the jump from 2d to 3d did Mario dirty. SMW looked gorgeous, fantastic, whimsical. SM64 looked horrible. The thing that made it stand out its just the change in technology. N64 was a transitional console.",
">\n\nI'll sue you"
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that's part of the problem - your average and even above-average player will struggle to get the most out of the moveset.
that's not a problem. The fact that it's possible to get better at the game by getting more comfortable with the controls is a credit to the game.
None of the normal things you have to do on the way to 120 stars is out of reach for a normal player. The insane stuff is only needed to get good speedrun times. | [
"1996 came and that game changed console video games forever. \nNot everyone could handle giant penguins and icy slides.",
">\n\nTime makes old technology look shitty. The first automobiles were crap by today's standards.",
">\n\nCompletely agree, but I'd have to counter by saying that I find a good chunk of the game's contemporary 3D platformers to have aged quite well.",
">\n\nI don't really know if that game has any contemporaries. It was literally the first of it's kind.",
">\n\nAh, I should clarify I meant in the sense of its console generation, so anywhere between 1996-2001 approx. \nI guess it's main true 'contemporary' would be Crash Bandicoot 1 which released the same year. While both take very distinct approaches to 3d platforming, I do believe Crash Bandicoot succeeded in a lot more areas as a game than SM64 even if it's not quite as ambitious. \nI fully acknowledge its the first of its kind and absolutely groundbreaking, though I still find it to be a rather poor game. Other groundbreaking titles that revolutionised the industry (Super Mario Bros, Zelda etc.) are both extremely innovative and very competent games in their own right.",
">\n\nI'd argue that those other games weren't anywhere near the leap forward that moving from 2D to 3D was. It's not comparable IMO.",
">\n\nIn terms of raw technology, SM64 is clearly the more groundbreaking title. From a game design perspective, the influence of Super Mario Bros and Zelda 1 has seeped into nearly every facet of gaming as has SM64. In that respect, they are absolutely comparable. \nI don't deny how revolutionary SM64 is, but I would argue its not quite the unprecedanted leap forward that it is generally held to be. There's some really excellent games 3D platformers like Jumping Flash! (released a full year before SM64) that codified many of the 3D platforming tropes still around today (slight tangent but if you ever have the chance, give it a shot! Jumping Flash! is a bit of an underrated diamond in the rough 😀)",
">\n\nI remember Jumping Flash. While it was fun-ish for its time, it still wasn't the leap forward SM64 was. For one, the graphics weren't anywhere near as good. Also, Jumping Flash and the same \"tank\" style controls that Resident Evil had, while SM64 was way more fluid. Hell, I'd even argue that this game is why games switched from D-Pads to analog sticks. \nBut I do agree about Super Mario Bros. and Zelda being big leaps forward. I just don't agree that it's anywhere near as big as the leap from 2D to 3D.",
">\n\nUnless you played the game when it came out, you'll never understand just how mind-blowing it was back then.",
">\n\nIt sure isnt, and it never was, not even back in 96 when it released. It had an abysmal camera and bad controls for strarters. And visually, the jump from 2d to 3d did Mario dirty. SMW looked gorgeous, fantastic, whimsical. SM64 looked horrible. The thing that made it stand out its just the change in technology. N64 was a transitional console.",
">\n\nI'll sue you",
">\n\n\nyour average and even above-average player will struggle to get the most out of the moveset.\n\nSorry, but only your below average player would struggle with Mario 64's move set. Mario controls incredibly well in 64 and is very easy to control on top of it.\nIf you just don't like the camera, that's completely different. The camera is often fixed in place to add an extra challenge, which many people rage about and incorrectly call bad controls. But it's really just a more challenging platforming section, that would've been trivial if you could move the camera behind Mario."
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It’s kind of a “you had to be there at the time” thing. It was pretty much the first 3D game - the jump from SMW to SM64 was the biggest in gaming history and remains so to this day.
That being said, SM64DS improved upon it in every way and is the superior game IMO. However, I feel that they should be played in sequence rather than substitution. | [
"1996 came and that game changed console video games forever. \nNot everyone could handle giant penguins and icy slides.",
">\n\nTime makes old technology look shitty. The first automobiles were crap by today's standards.",
">\n\nCompletely agree, but I'd have to counter by saying that I find a good chunk of the game's contemporary 3D platformers to have aged quite well.",
">\n\nI don't really know if that game has any contemporaries. It was literally the first of it's kind.",
">\n\nAh, I should clarify I meant in the sense of its console generation, so anywhere between 1996-2001 approx. \nI guess it's main true 'contemporary' would be Crash Bandicoot 1 which released the same year. While both take very distinct approaches to 3d platforming, I do believe Crash Bandicoot succeeded in a lot more areas as a game than SM64 even if it's not quite as ambitious. \nI fully acknowledge its the first of its kind and absolutely groundbreaking, though I still find it to be a rather poor game. Other groundbreaking titles that revolutionised the industry (Super Mario Bros, Zelda etc.) are both extremely innovative and very competent games in their own right.",
">\n\nI'd argue that those other games weren't anywhere near the leap forward that moving from 2D to 3D was. It's not comparable IMO.",
">\n\nIn terms of raw technology, SM64 is clearly the more groundbreaking title. From a game design perspective, the influence of Super Mario Bros and Zelda 1 has seeped into nearly every facet of gaming as has SM64. In that respect, they are absolutely comparable. \nI don't deny how revolutionary SM64 is, but I would argue its not quite the unprecedanted leap forward that it is generally held to be. There's some really excellent games 3D platformers like Jumping Flash! (released a full year before SM64) that codified many of the 3D platforming tropes still around today (slight tangent but if you ever have the chance, give it a shot! Jumping Flash! is a bit of an underrated diamond in the rough 😀)",
">\n\nI remember Jumping Flash. While it was fun-ish for its time, it still wasn't the leap forward SM64 was. For one, the graphics weren't anywhere near as good. Also, Jumping Flash and the same \"tank\" style controls that Resident Evil had, while SM64 was way more fluid. Hell, I'd even argue that this game is why games switched from D-Pads to analog sticks. \nBut I do agree about Super Mario Bros. and Zelda being big leaps forward. I just don't agree that it's anywhere near as big as the leap from 2D to 3D.",
">\n\nUnless you played the game when it came out, you'll never understand just how mind-blowing it was back then.",
">\n\nIt sure isnt, and it never was, not even back in 96 when it released. It had an abysmal camera and bad controls for strarters. And visually, the jump from 2d to 3d did Mario dirty. SMW looked gorgeous, fantastic, whimsical. SM64 looked horrible. The thing that made it stand out its just the change in technology. N64 was a transitional console.",
">\n\nI'll sue you",
">\n\n\nyour average and even above-average player will struggle to get the most out of the moveset.\n\nSorry, but only your below average player would struggle with Mario 64's move set. Mario controls incredibly well in 64 and is very easy to control on top of it.\nIf you just don't like the camera, that's completely different. The camera is often fixed in place to add an extra challenge, which many people rage about and incorrectly call bad controls. But it's really just a more challenging platforming section, that would've been trivial if you could move the camera behind Mario.",
">\n\n\nthat's part of the problem - your average and even above-average player will struggle to get the most out of the moveset.\n\nthat's not a problem. The fact that it's possible to get better at the game by getting more comfortable with the controls is a credit to the game.\nNone of the normal things you have to do on the way to 120 stars is out of reach for a normal player. The insane stuff is only needed to get good speedrun times."
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There's this idea that "good" movement in modern games is simply movement with no learning curve. Platformers in early 3D weren't afraid to make you ACTUALLY learn them.
This became an issue as early as Sunshine, where control over Mario's physics were at their peak (and the design around this to follow) but the learning curve to be good at it resulted in a game far more difficult than 64 was. Despite Mario having way better control and way more abilities.
Fast forward to Galaxy, and game will never ask of you the level of competency with its physics as Sunshine did.
This isn't just a Mario thing. Anyone who played the original Tomb Raider games vs the reboots where jumps/ climbs/ledges are impossible to mess up knows. | [
"1996 came and that game changed console video games forever. \nNot everyone could handle giant penguins and icy slides.",
">\n\nTime makes old technology look shitty. The first automobiles were crap by today's standards.",
">\n\nCompletely agree, but I'd have to counter by saying that I find a good chunk of the game's contemporary 3D platformers to have aged quite well.",
">\n\nI don't really know if that game has any contemporaries. It was literally the first of it's kind.",
">\n\nAh, I should clarify I meant in the sense of its console generation, so anywhere between 1996-2001 approx. \nI guess it's main true 'contemporary' would be Crash Bandicoot 1 which released the same year. While both take very distinct approaches to 3d platforming, I do believe Crash Bandicoot succeeded in a lot more areas as a game than SM64 even if it's not quite as ambitious. \nI fully acknowledge its the first of its kind and absolutely groundbreaking, though I still find it to be a rather poor game. Other groundbreaking titles that revolutionised the industry (Super Mario Bros, Zelda etc.) are both extremely innovative and very competent games in their own right.",
">\n\nI'd argue that those other games weren't anywhere near the leap forward that moving from 2D to 3D was. It's not comparable IMO.",
">\n\nIn terms of raw technology, SM64 is clearly the more groundbreaking title. From a game design perspective, the influence of Super Mario Bros and Zelda 1 has seeped into nearly every facet of gaming as has SM64. In that respect, they are absolutely comparable. \nI don't deny how revolutionary SM64 is, but I would argue its not quite the unprecedanted leap forward that it is generally held to be. There's some really excellent games 3D platformers like Jumping Flash! (released a full year before SM64) that codified many of the 3D platforming tropes still around today (slight tangent but if you ever have the chance, give it a shot! Jumping Flash! is a bit of an underrated diamond in the rough 😀)",
">\n\nI remember Jumping Flash. While it was fun-ish for its time, it still wasn't the leap forward SM64 was. For one, the graphics weren't anywhere near as good. Also, Jumping Flash and the same \"tank\" style controls that Resident Evil had, while SM64 was way more fluid. Hell, I'd even argue that this game is why games switched from D-Pads to analog sticks. \nBut I do agree about Super Mario Bros. and Zelda being big leaps forward. I just don't agree that it's anywhere near as big as the leap from 2D to 3D.",
">\n\nUnless you played the game when it came out, you'll never understand just how mind-blowing it was back then.",
">\n\nIt sure isnt, and it never was, not even back in 96 when it released. It had an abysmal camera and bad controls for strarters. And visually, the jump from 2d to 3d did Mario dirty. SMW looked gorgeous, fantastic, whimsical. SM64 looked horrible. The thing that made it stand out its just the change in technology. N64 was a transitional console.",
">\n\nI'll sue you",
">\n\n\nyour average and even above-average player will struggle to get the most out of the moveset.\n\nSorry, but only your below average player would struggle with Mario 64's move set. Mario controls incredibly well in 64 and is very easy to control on top of it.\nIf you just don't like the camera, that's completely different. The camera is often fixed in place to add an extra challenge, which many people rage about and incorrectly call bad controls. But it's really just a more challenging platforming section, that would've been trivial if you could move the camera behind Mario.",
">\n\n\nthat's part of the problem - your average and even above-average player will struggle to get the most out of the moveset.\n\nthat's not a problem. The fact that it's possible to get better at the game by getting more comfortable with the controls is a credit to the game.\nNone of the normal things you have to do on the way to 120 stars is out of reach for a normal player. The insane stuff is only needed to get good speedrun times.",
">\n\nIt’s kind of a “you had to be there at the time” thing. It was pretty much the first 3D game - the jump from SMW to SM64 was the biggest in gaming history and remains so to this day.\nThat being said, SM64DS improved upon it in every way and is the superior game IMO. However, I feel that they should be played in sequence rather than substitution."
] |
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In theory, SM64 has my favourite moveset for 3D Mario. I really love being able to flow through the different jumps.
In practice, however, the skill ceiling is simply too high and the controls too jank for the average player to accomplish these moves effectively. Mario's wide turning angle is flat out awful - one of the worst I've ever seen in a 3D platformer; mid-air jump is very stiff and can feel like wrestling with Mario to get him to land on what would otherwise be a relatively simple point-to-point jump; The side jump is extremely finicky to pull off; the long jump can often lead to Mario just crouching like a doofus and completely killing your momentum. Even in Super Mario 64 speedruns wherein players have mastered his controls, they will still make lots and lots of mistakes through no fault of their own due to issues with input registering.
In my opinion, some form of hybrid with the smoother controls of Sunshine and Galaxy and the range of inputs from SM64 would be my ideal Mario control. I think Odyssey comes close to this in some respects. | [
"1996 came and that game changed console video games forever. \nNot everyone could handle giant penguins and icy slides.",
">\n\nTime makes old technology look shitty. The first automobiles were crap by today's standards.",
">\n\nCompletely agree, but I'd have to counter by saying that I find a good chunk of the game's contemporary 3D platformers to have aged quite well.",
">\n\nI don't really know if that game has any contemporaries. It was literally the first of it's kind.",
">\n\nAh, I should clarify I meant in the sense of its console generation, so anywhere between 1996-2001 approx. \nI guess it's main true 'contemporary' would be Crash Bandicoot 1 which released the same year. While both take very distinct approaches to 3d platforming, I do believe Crash Bandicoot succeeded in a lot more areas as a game than SM64 even if it's not quite as ambitious. \nI fully acknowledge its the first of its kind and absolutely groundbreaking, though I still find it to be a rather poor game. Other groundbreaking titles that revolutionised the industry (Super Mario Bros, Zelda etc.) are both extremely innovative and very competent games in their own right.",
">\n\nI'd argue that those other games weren't anywhere near the leap forward that moving from 2D to 3D was. It's not comparable IMO.",
">\n\nIn terms of raw technology, SM64 is clearly the more groundbreaking title. From a game design perspective, the influence of Super Mario Bros and Zelda 1 has seeped into nearly every facet of gaming as has SM64. In that respect, they are absolutely comparable. \nI don't deny how revolutionary SM64 is, but I would argue its not quite the unprecedanted leap forward that it is generally held to be. There's some really excellent games 3D platformers like Jumping Flash! (released a full year before SM64) that codified many of the 3D platforming tropes still around today (slight tangent but if you ever have the chance, give it a shot! Jumping Flash! is a bit of an underrated diamond in the rough 😀)",
">\n\nI remember Jumping Flash. While it was fun-ish for its time, it still wasn't the leap forward SM64 was. For one, the graphics weren't anywhere near as good. Also, Jumping Flash and the same \"tank\" style controls that Resident Evil had, while SM64 was way more fluid. Hell, I'd even argue that this game is why games switched from D-Pads to analog sticks. \nBut I do agree about Super Mario Bros. and Zelda being big leaps forward. I just don't agree that it's anywhere near as big as the leap from 2D to 3D.",
">\n\nUnless you played the game when it came out, you'll never understand just how mind-blowing it was back then.",
">\n\nIt sure isnt, and it never was, not even back in 96 when it released. It had an abysmal camera and bad controls for strarters. And visually, the jump from 2d to 3d did Mario dirty. SMW looked gorgeous, fantastic, whimsical. SM64 looked horrible. The thing that made it stand out its just the change in technology. N64 was a transitional console.",
">\n\nI'll sue you",
">\n\n\nyour average and even above-average player will struggle to get the most out of the moveset.\n\nSorry, but only your below average player would struggle with Mario 64's move set. Mario controls incredibly well in 64 and is very easy to control on top of it.\nIf you just don't like the camera, that's completely different. The camera is often fixed in place to add an extra challenge, which many people rage about and incorrectly call bad controls. But it's really just a more challenging platforming section, that would've been trivial if you could move the camera behind Mario.",
">\n\n\nthat's part of the problem - your average and even above-average player will struggle to get the most out of the moveset.\n\nthat's not a problem. The fact that it's possible to get better at the game by getting more comfortable with the controls is a credit to the game.\nNone of the normal things you have to do on the way to 120 stars is out of reach for a normal player. The insane stuff is only needed to get good speedrun times.",
">\n\nIt’s kind of a “you had to be there at the time” thing. It was pretty much the first 3D game - the jump from SMW to SM64 was the biggest in gaming history and remains so to this day.\nThat being said, SM64DS improved upon it in every way and is the superior game IMO. However, I feel that they should be played in sequence rather than substitution.",
">\n\nThere's this idea that \"good\" movement in modern games is simply movement with no learning curve. Platformers in early 3D weren't afraid to make you ACTUALLY learn them. \nThis became an issue as early as Sunshine, where control over Mario's physics were at their peak (and the design around this to follow) but the learning curve to be good at it resulted in a game far more difficult than 64 was. Despite Mario having way better control and way more abilities. \nFast forward to Galaxy, and game will never ask of you the level of competency with its physics as Sunshine did. \nThis isn't just a Mario thing. Anyone who played the original Tomb Raider games vs the reboots where jumps/ climbs/ledges are impossible to mess up knows."
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Disagree, good game. | [
"1996 came and that game changed console video games forever. \nNot everyone could handle giant penguins and icy slides.",
">\n\nTime makes old technology look shitty. The first automobiles were crap by today's standards.",
">\n\nCompletely agree, but I'd have to counter by saying that I find a good chunk of the game's contemporary 3D platformers to have aged quite well.",
">\n\nI don't really know if that game has any contemporaries. It was literally the first of it's kind.",
">\n\nAh, I should clarify I meant in the sense of its console generation, so anywhere between 1996-2001 approx. \nI guess it's main true 'contemporary' would be Crash Bandicoot 1 which released the same year. While both take very distinct approaches to 3d platforming, I do believe Crash Bandicoot succeeded in a lot more areas as a game than SM64 even if it's not quite as ambitious. \nI fully acknowledge its the first of its kind and absolutely groundbreaking, though I still find it to be a rather poor game. Other groundbreaking titles that revolutionised the industry (Super Mario Bros, Zelda etc.) are both extremely innovative and very competent games in their own right.",
">\n\nI'd argue that those other games weren't anywhere near the leap forward that moving from 2D to 3D was. It's not comparable IMO.",
">\n\nIn terms of raw technology, SM64 is clearly the more groundbreaking title. From a game design perspective, the influence of Super Mario Bros and Zelda 1 has seeped into nearly every facet of gaming as has SM64. In that respect, they are absolutely comparable. \nI don't deny how revolutionary SM64 is, but I would argue its not quite the unprecedanted leap forward that it is generally held to be. There's some really excellent games 3D platformers like Jumping Flash! (released a full year before SM64) that codified many of the 3D platforming tropes still around today (slight tangent but if you ever have the chance, give it a shot! Jumping Flash! is a bit of an underrated diamond in the rough 😀)",
">\n\nI remember Jumping Flash. While it was fun-ish for its time, it still wasn't the leap forward SM64 was. For one, the graphics weren't anywhere near as good. Also, Jumping Flash and the same \"tank\" style controls that Resident Evil had, while SM64 was way more fluid. Hell, I'd even argue that this game is why games switched from D-Pads to analog sticks. \nBut I do agree about Super Mario Bros. and Zelda being big leaps forward. I just don't agree that it's anywhere near as big as the leap from 2D to 3D.",
">\n\nUnless you played the game when it came out, you'll never understand just how mind-blowing it was back then.",
">\n\nIt sure isnt, and it never was, not even back in 96 when it released. It had an abysmal camera and bad controls for strarters. And visually, the jump from 2d to 3d did Mario dirty. SMW looked gorgeous, fantastic, whimsical. SM64 looked horrible. The thing that made it stand out its just the change in technology. N64 was a transitional console.",
">\n\nI'll sue you",
">\n\n\nyour average and even above-average player will struggle to get the most out of the moveset.\n\nSorry, but only your below average player would struggle with Mario 64's move set. Mario controls incredibly well in 64 and is very easy to control on top of it.\nIf you just don't like the camera, that's completely different. The camera is often fixed in place to add an extra challenge, which many people rage about and incorrectly call bad controls. But it's really just a more challenging platforming section, that would've been trivial if you could move the camera behind Mario.",
">\n\n\nthat's part of the problem - your average and even above-average player will struggle to get the most out of the moveset.\n\nthat's not a problem. The fact that it's possible to get better at the game by getting more comfortable with the controls is a credit to the game.\nNone of the normal things you have to do on the way to 120 stars is out of reach for a normal player. The insane stuff is only needed to get good speedrun times.",
">\n\nIt’s kind of a “you had to be there at the time” thing. It was pretty much the first 3D game - the jump from SMW to SM64 was the biggest in gaming history and remains so to this day.\nThat being said, SM64DS improved upon it in every way and is the superior game IMO. However, I feel that they should be played in sequence rather than substitution.",
">\n\nThere's this idea that \"good\" movement in modern games is simply movement with no learning curve. Platformers in early 3D weren't afraid to make you ACTUALLY learn them. \nThis became an issue as early as Sunshine, where control over Mario's physics were at their peak (and the design around this to follow) but the learning curve to be good at it resulted in a game far more difficult than 64 was. Despite Mario having way better control and way more abilities. \nFast forward to Galaxy, and game will never ask of you the level of competency with its physics as Sunshine did. \nThis isn't just a Mario thing. Anyone who played the original Tomb Raider games vs the reboots where jumps/ climbs/ledges are impossible to mess up knows.",
">\n\nIn theory, SM64 has my favourite moveset for 3D Mario. I really love being able to flow through the different jumps.\nIn practice, however, the skill ceiling is simply too high and the controls too jank for the average player to accomplish these moves effectively. Mario's wide turning angle is flat out awful - one of the worst I've ever seen in a 3D platformer; mid-air jump is very stiff and can feel like wrestling with Mario to get him to land on what would otherwise be a relatively simple point-to-point jump; The side jump is extremely finicky to pull off; the long jump can often lead to Mario just crouching like a doofus and completely killing your momentum. Even in Super Mario 64 speedruns wherein players have mastered his controls, they will still make lots and lots of mistakes through no fault of their own due to issues with input registering. \nIn my opinion, some form of hybrid with the smoother controls of Sunshine and Galaxy and the range of inputs from SM64 would be my ideal Mario control. I think Odyssey comes close to this in some respects."
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you are trying to judge a 27 year old game by modern standards my dude. | [
"1996 came and that game changed console video games forever. \nNot everyone could handle giant penguins and icy slides.",
">\n\nTime makes old technology look shitty. The first automobiles were crap by today's standards.",
">\n\nCompletely agree, but I'd have to counter by saying that I find a good chunk of the game's contemporary 3D platformers to have aged quite well.",
">\n\nI don't really know if that game has any contemporaries. It was literally the first of it's kind.",
">\n\nAh, I should clarify I meant in the sense of its console generation, so anywhere between 1996-2001 approx. \nI guess it's main true 'contemporary' would be Crash Bandicoot 1 which released the same year. While both take very distinct approaches to 3d platforming, I do believe Crash Bandicoot succeeded in a lot more areas as a game than SM64 even if it's not quite as ambitious. \nI fully acknowledge its the first of its kind and absolutely groundbreaking, though I still find it to be a rather poor game. Other groundbreaking titles that revolutionised the industry (Super Mario Bros, Zelda etc.) are both extremely innovative and very competent games in their own right.",
">\n\nI'd argue that those other games weren't anywhere near the leap forward that moving from 2D to 3D was. It's not comparable IMO.",
">\n\nIn terms of raw technology, SM64 is clearly the more groundbreaking title. From a game design perspective, the influence of Super Mario Bros and Zelda 1 has seeped into nearly every facet of gaming as has SM64. In that respect, they are absolutely comparable. \nI don't deny how revolutionary SM64 is, but I would argue its not quite the unprecedanted leap forward that it is generally held to be. There's some really excellent games 3D platformers like Jumping Flash! (released a full year before SM64) that codified many of the 3D platforming tropes still around today (slight tangent but if you ever have the chance, give it a shot! Jumping Flash! is a bit of an underrated diamond in the rough 😀)",
">\n\nI remember Jumping Flash. While it was fun-ish for its time, it still wasn't the leap forward SM64 was. For one, the graphics weren't anywhere near as good. Also, Jumping Flash and the same \"tank\" style controls that Resident Evil had, while SM64 was way more fluid. Hell, I'd even argue that this game is why games switched from D-Pads to analog sticks. \nBut I do agree about Super Mario Bros. and Zelda being big leaps forward. I just don't agree that it's anywhere near as big as the leap from 2D to 3D.",
">\n\nUnless you played the game when it came out, you'll never understand just how mind-blowing it was back then.",
">\n\nIt sure isnt, and it never was, not even back in 96 when it released. It had an abysmal camera and bad controls for strarters. And visually, the jump from 2d to 3d did Mario dirty. SMW looked gorgeous, fantastic, whimsical. SM64 looked horrible. The thing that made it stand out its just the change in technology. N64 was a transitional console.",
">\n\nI'll sue you",
">\n\n\nyour average and even above-average player will struggle to get the most out of the moveset.\n\nSorry, but only your below average player would struggle with Mario 64's move set. Mario controls incredibly well in 64 and is very easy to control on top of it.\nIf you just don't like the camera, that's completely different. The camera is often fixed in place to add an extra challenge, which many people rage about and incorrectly call bad controls. But it's really just a more challenging platforming section, that would've been trivial if you could move the camera behind Mario.",
">\n\n\nthat's part of the problem - your average and even above-average player will struggle to get the most out of the moveset.\n\nthat's not a problem. The fact that it's possible to get better at the game by getting more comfortable with the controls is a credit to the game.\nNone of the normal things you have to do on the way to 120 stars is out of reach for a normal player. The insane stuff is only needed to get good speedrun times.",
">\n\nIt’s kind of a “you had to be there at the time” thing. It was pretty much the first 3D game - the jump from SMW to SM64 was the biggest in gaming history and remains so to this day.\nThat being said, SM64DS improved upon it in every way and is the superior game IMO. However, I feel that they should be played in sequence rather than substitution.",
">\n\nThere's this idea that \"good\" movement in modern games is simply movement with no learning curve. Platformers in early 3D weren't afraid to make you ACTUALLY learn them. \nThis became an issue as early as Sunshine, where control over Mario's physics were at their peak (and the design around this to follow) but the learning curve to be good at it resulted in a game far more difficult than 64 was. Despite Mario having way better control and way more abilities. \nFast forward to Galaxy, and game will never ask of you the level of competency with its physics as Sunshine did. \nThis isn't just a Mario thing. Anyone who played the original Tomb Raider games vs the reboots where jumps/ climbs/ledges are impossible to mess up knows.",
">\n\nIn theory, SM64 has my favourite moveset for 3D Mario. I really love being able to flow through the different jumps.\nIn practice, however, the skill ceiling is simply too high and the controls too jank for the average player to accomplish these moves effectively. Mario's wide turning angle is flat out awful - one of the worst I've ever seen in a 3D platformer; mid-air jump is very stiff and can feel like wrestling with Mario to get him to land on what would otherwise be a relatively simple point-to-point jump; The side jump is extremely finicky to pull off; the long jump can often lead to Mario just crouching like a doofus and completely killing your momentum. Even in Super Mario 64 speedruns wherein players have mastered his controls, they will still make lots and lots of mistakes through no fault of their own due to issues with input registering. \nIn my opinion, some form of hybrid with the smoother controls of Sunshine and Galaxy and the range of inputs from SM64 would be my ideal Mario control. I think Odyssey comes close to this in some respects.",
">\n\nDisagree, good game."
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Not at all! There's a good many 3D platformers from that generation that, even if judged to modern standards, still hold up fantastically. I just did a playthrough of Conkers Bad Fur day on original hardware and it was a phenomenal game. | [
"1996 came and that game changed console video games forever. \nNot everyone could handle giant penguins and icy slides.",
">\n\nTime makes old technology look shitty. The first automobiles were crap by today's standards.",
">\n\nCompletely agree, but I'd have to counter by saying that I find a good chunk of the game's contemporary 3D platformers to have aged quite well.",
">\n\nI don't really know if that game has any contemporaries. It was literally the first of it's kind.",
">\n\nAh, I should clarify I meant in the sense of its console generation, so anywhere between 1996-2001 approx. \nI guess it's main true 'contemporary' would be Crash Bandicoot 1 which released the same year. While both take very distinct approaches to 3d platforming, I do believe Crash Bandicoot succeeded in a lot more areas as a game than SM64 even if it's not quite as ambitious. \nI fully acknowledge its the first of its kind and absolutely groundbreaking, though I still find it to be a rather poor game. Other groundbreaking titles that revolutionised the industry (Super Mario Bros, Zelda etc.) are both extremely innovative and very competent games in their own right.",
">\n\nI'd argue that those other games weren't anywhere near the leap forward that moving from 2D to 3D was. It's not comparable IMO.",
">\n\nIn terms of raw technology, SM64 is clearly the more groundbreaking title. From a game design perspective, the influence of Super Mario Bros and Zelda 1 has seeped into nearly every facet of gaming as has SM64. In that respect, they are absolutely comparable. \nI don't deny how revolutionary SM64 is, but I would argue its not quite the unprecedanted leap forward that it is generally held to be. There's some really excellent games 3D platformers like Jumping Flash! (released a full year before SM64) that codified many of the 3D platforming tropes still around today (slight tangent but if you ever have the chance, give it a shot! Jumping Flash! is a bit of an underrated diamond in the rough 😀)",
">\n\nI remember Jumping Flash. While it was fun-ish for its time, it still wasn't the leap forward SM64 was. For one, the graphics weren't anywhere near as good. Also, Jumping Flash and the same \"tank\" style controls that Resident Evil had, while SM64 was way more fluid. Hell, I'd even argue that this game is why games switched from D-Pads to analog sticks. \nBut I do agree about Super Mario Bros. and Zelda being big leaps forward. I just don't agree that it's anywhere near as big as the leap from 2D to 3D.",
">\n\nUnless you played the game when it came out, you'll never understand just how mind-blowing it was back then.",
">\n\nIt sure isnt, and it never was, not even back in 96 when it released. It had an abysmal camera and bad controls for strarters. And visually, the jump from 2d to 3d did Mario dirty. SMW looked gorgeous, fantastic, whimsical. SM64 looked horrible. The thing that made it stand out its just the change in technology. N64 was a transitional console.",
">\n\nI'll sue you",
">\n\n\nyour average and even above-average player will struggle to get the most out of the moveset.\n\nSorry, but only your below average player would struggle with Mario 64's move set. Mario controls incredibly well in 64 and is very easy to control on top of it.\nIf you just don't like the camera, that's completely different. The camera is often fixed in place to add an extra challenge, which many people rage about and incorrectly call bad controls. But it's really just a more challenging platforming section, that would've been trivial if you could move the camera behind Mario.",
">\n\n\nthat's part of the problem - your average and even above-average player will struggle to get the most out of the moveset.\n\nthat's not a problem. The fact that it's possible to get better at the game by getting more comfortable with the controls is a credit to the game.\nNone of the normal things you have to do on the way to 120 stars is out of reach for a normal player. The insane stuff is only needed to get good speedrun times.",
">\n\nIt’s kind of a “you had to be there at the time” thing. It was pretty much the first 3D game - the jump from SMW to SM64 was the biggest in gaming history and remains so to this day.\nThat being said, SM64DS improved upon it in every way and is the superior game IMO. However, I feel that they should be played in sequence rather than substitution.",
">\n\nThere's this idea that \"good\" movement in modern games is simply movement with no learning curve. Platformers in early 3D weren't afraid to make you ACTUALLY learn them. \nThis became an issue as early as Sunshine, where control over Mario's physics were at their peak (and the design around this to follow) but the learning curve to be good at it resulted in a game far more difficult than 64 was. Despite Mario having way better control and way more abilities. \nFast forward to Galaxy, and game will never ask of you the level of competency with its physics as Sunshine did. \nThis isn't just a Mario thing. Anyone who played the original Tomb Raider games vs the reboots where jumps/ climbs/ledges are impossible to mess up knows.",
">\n\nIn theory, SM64 has my favourite moveset for 3D Mario. I really love being able to flow through the different jumps.\nIn practice, however, the skill ceiling is simply too high and the controls too jank for the average player to accomplish these moves effectively. Mario's wide turning angle is flat out awful - one of the worst I've ever seen in a 3D platformer; mid-air jump is very stiff and can feel like wrestling with Mario to get him to land on what would otherwise be a relatively simple point-to-point jump; The side jump is extremely finicky to pull off; the long jump can often lead to Mario just crouching like a doofus and completely killing your momentum. Even in Super Mario 64 speedruns wherein players have mastered his controls, they will still make lots and lots of mistakes through no fault of their own due to issues with input registering. \nIn my opinion, some form of hybrid with the smoother controls of Sunshine and Galaxy and the range of inputs from SM64 would be my ideal Mario control. I think Odyssey comes close to this in some respects.",
">\n\nDisagree, good game.",
">\n\nyou are trying to judge a 27 year old game by modern standards my dude."
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but that's part of the problem - your average and even above-average player will struggle to get the most out of the moveset.
except you are trying to "100%" the game. that's not something that an average or above average player achieves. that is literally a 100% completion of the game that requires you to use everything at your disposal to accomplish.
of course it's going to be difficult for average or above-average players to achieve.
i haven't ever gotten 100% on mario 6. | [
"1996 came and that game changed console video games forever. \nNot everyone could handle giant penguins and icy slides.",
">\n\nTime makes old technology look shitty. The first automobiles were crap by today's standards.",
">\n\nCompletely agree, but I'd have to counter by saying that I find a good chunk of the game's contemporary 3D platformers to have aged quite well.",
">\n\nI don't really know if that game has any contemporaries. It was literally the first of it's kind.",
">\n\nAh, I should clarify I meant in the sense of its console generation, so anywhere between 1996-2001 approx. \nI guess it's main true 'contemporary' would be Crash Bandicoot 1 which released the same year. While both take very distinct approaches to 3d platforming, I do believe Crash Bandicoot succeeded in a lot more areas as a game than SM64 even if it's not quite as ambitious. \nI fully acknowledge its the first of its kind and absolutely groundbreaking, though I still find it to be a rather poor game. Other groundbreaking titles that revolutionised the industry (Super Mario Bros, Zelda etc.) are both extremely innovative and very competent games in their own right.",
">\n\nI'd argue that those other games weren't anywhere near the leap forward that moving from 2D to 3D was. It's not comparable IMO.",
">\n\nIn terms of raw technology, SM64 is clearly the more groundbreaking title. From a game design perspective, the influence of Super Mario Bros and Zelda 1 has seeped into nearly every facet of gaming as has SM64. In that respect, they are absolutely comparable. \nI don't deny how revolutionary SM64 is, but I would argue its not quite the unprecedanted leap forward that it is generally held to be. There's some really excellent games 3D platformers like Jumping Flash! (released a full year before SM64) that codified many of the 3D platforming tropes still around today (slight tangent but if you ever have the chance, give it a shot! Jumping Flash! is a bit of an underrated diamond in the rough 😀)",
">\n\nI remember Jumping Flash. While it was fun-ish for its time, it still wasn't the leap forward SM64 was. For one, the graphics weren't anywhere near as good. Also, Jumping Flash and the same \"tank\" style controls that Resident Evil had, while SM64 was way more fluid. Hell, I'd even argue that this game is why games switched from D-Pads to analog sticks. \nBut I do agree about Super Mario Bros. and Zelda being big leaps forward. I just don't agree that it's anywhere near as big as the leap from 2D to 3D.",
">\n\nUnless you played the game when it came out, you'll never understand just how mind-blowing it was back then.",
">\n\nIt sure isnt, and it never was, not even back in 96 when it released. It had an abysmal camera and bad controls for strarters. And visually, the jump from 2d to 3d did Mario dirty. SMW looked gorgeous, fantastic, whimsical. SM64 looked horrible. The thing that made it stand out its just the change in technology. N64 was a transitional console.",
">\n\nI'll sue you",
">\n\n\nyour average and even above-average player will struggle to get the most out of the moveset.\n\nSorry, but only your below average player would struggle with Mario 64's move set. Mario controls incredibly well in 64 and is very easy to control on top of it.\nIf you just don't like the camera, that's completely different. The camera is often fixed in place to add an extra challenge, which many people rage about and incorrectly call bad controls. But it's really just a more challenging platforming section, that would've been trivial if you could move the camera behind Mario.",
">\n\n\nthat's part of the problem - your average and even above-average player will struggle to get the most out of the moveset.\n\nthat's not a problem. The fact that it's possible to get better at the game by getting more comfortable with the controls is a credit to the game.\nNone of the normal things you have to do on the way to 120 stars is out of reach for a normal player. The insane stuff is only needed to get good speedrun times.",
">\n\nIt’s kind of a “you had to be there at the time” thing. It was pretty much the first 3D game - the jump from SMW to SM64 was the biggest in gaming history and remains so to this day.\nThat being said, SM64DS improved upon it in every way and is the superior game IMO. However, I feel that they should be played in sequence rather than substitution.",
">\n\nThere's this idea that \"good\" movement in modern games is simply movement with no learning curve. Platformers in early 3D weren't afraid to make you ACTUALLY learn them. \nThis became an issue as early as Sunshine, where control over Mario's physics were at their peak (and the design around this to follow) but the learning curve to be good at it resulted in a game far more difficult than 64 was. Despite Mario having way better control and way more abilities. \nFast forward to Galaxy, and game will never ask of you the level of competency with its physics as Sunshine did. \nThis isn't just a Mario thing. Anyone who played the original Tomb Raider games vs the reboots where jumps/ climbs/ledges are impossible to mess up knows.",
">\n\nIn theory, SM64 has my favourite moveset for 3D Mario. I really love being able to flow through the different jumps.\nIn practice, however, the skill ceiling is simply too high and the controls too jank for the average player to accomplish these moves effectively. Mario's wide turning angle is flat out awful - one of the worst I've ever seen in a 3D platformer; mid-air jump is very stiff and can feel like wrestling with Mario to get him to land on what would otherwise be a relatively simple point-to-point jump; The side jump is extremely finicky to pull off; the long jump can often lead to Mario just crouching like a doofus and completely killing your momentum. Even in Super Mario 64 speedruns wherein players have mastered his controls, they will still make lots and lots of mistakes through no fault of their own due to issues with input registering. \nIn my opinion, some form of hybrid with the smoother controls of Sunshine and Galaxy and the range of inputs from SM64 would be my ideal Mario control. I think Odyssey comes close to this in some respects.",
">\n\nDisagree, good game.",
">\n\nyou are trying to judge a 27 year old game by modern standards my dude.",
">\n\nNot at all! There's a good many 3D platformers from that generation that, even if judged to modern standards, still hold up fantastically. I just did a playthrough of Conkers Bad Fur day on original hardware and it was a phenomenal game."
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My point about attempting to 100% the game is largely anecdotal to the argument. I have in the past completed the game casually twice both as a child and as a teenager. To my understanding, going for 100% isn't substantially harder than a regular playthrough other than elongating game-time; SM64's difficulty is generally level dependant, so once you have the 70 stars to fight bowser it is highly likely the player has the ability to get all 120, it's just a matter of whether they choose to do so.
Whether going for a completionist run or simply going to defeat the final boss, my point about the controls being extremely difficult to play with still stands regardless. I have absolutely no problem with putting effort in to learn more complex maneuvers, but Mario 64's controls are extremely stiff and said maneuvers are often not properly registered by the controller (particularly the side-jump). | [
"1996 came and that game changed console video games forever. \nNot everyone could handle giant penguins and icy slides.",
">\n\nTime makes old technology look shitty. The first automobiles were crap by today's standards.",
">\n\nCompletely agree, but I'd have to counter by saying that I find a good chunk of the game's contemporary 3D platformers to have aged quite well.",
">\n\nI don't really know if that game has any contemporaries. It was literally the first of it's kind.",
">\n\nAh, I should clarify I meant in the sense of its console generation, so anywhere between 1996-2001 approx. \nI guess it's main true 'contemporary' would be Crash Bandicoot 1 which released the same year. While both take very distinct approaches to 3d platforming, I do believe Crash Bandicoot succeeded in a lot more areas as a game than SM64 even if it's not quite as ambitious. \nI fully acknowledge its the first of its kind and absolutely groundbreaking, though I still find it to be a rather poor game. Other groundbreaking titles that revolutionised the industry (Super Mario Bros, Zelda etc.) are both extremely innovative and very competent games in their own right.",
">\n\nI'd argue that those other games weren't anywhere near the leap forward that moving from 2D to 3D was. It's not comparable IMO.",
">\n\nIn terms of raw technology, SM64 is clearly the more groundbreaking title. From a game design perspective, the influence of Super Mario Bros and Zelda 1 has seeped into nearly every facet of gaming as has SM64. In that respect, they are absolutely comparable. \nI don't deny how revolutionary SM64 is, but I would argue its not quite the unprecedanted leap forward that it is generally held to be. There's some really excellent games 3D platformers like Jumping Flash! (released a full year before SM64) that codified many of the 3D platforming tropes still around today (slight tangent but if you ever have the chance, give it a shot! Jumping Flash! is a bit of an underrated diamond in the rough 😀)",
">\n\nI remember Jumping Flash. While it was fun-ish for its time, it still wasn't the leap forward SM64 was. For one, the graphics weren't anywhere near as good. Also, Jumping Flash and the same \"tank\" style controls that Resident Evil had, while SM64 was way more fluid. Hell, I'd even argue that this game is why games switched from D-Pads to analog sticks. \nBut I do agree about Super Mario Bros. and Zelda being big leaps forward. I just don't agree that it's anywhere near as big as the leap from 2D to 3D.",
">\n\nUnless you played the game when it came out, you'll never understand just how mind-blowing it was back then.",
">\n\nIt sure isnt, and it never was, not even back in 96 when it released. It had an abysmal camera and bad controls for strarters. And visually, the jump from 2d to 3d did Mario dirty. SMW looked gorgeous, fantastic, whimsical. SM64 looked horrible. The thing that made it stand out its just the change in technology. N64 was a transitional console.",
">\n\nI'll sue you",
">\n\n\nyour average and even above-average player will struggle to get the most out of the moveset.\n\nSorry, but only your below average player would struggle with Mario 64's move set. Mario controls incredibly well in 64 and is very easy to control on top of it.\nIf you just don't like the camera, that's completely different. The camera is often fixed in place to add an extra challenge, which many people rage about and incorrectly call bad controls. But it's really just a more challenging platforming section, that would've been trivial if you could move the camera behind Mario.",
">\n\n\nthat's part of the problem - your average and even above-average player will struggle to get the most out of the moveset.\n\nthat's not a problem. The fact that it's possible to get better at the game by getting more comfortable with the controls is a credit to the game.\nNone of the normal things you have to do on the way to 120 stars is out of reach for a normal player. The insane stuff is only needed to get good speedrun times.",
">\n\nIt’s kind of a “you had to be there at the time” thing. It was pretty much the first 3D game - the jump from SMW to SM64 was the biggest in gaming history and remains so to this day.\nThat being said, SM64DS improved upon it in every way and is the superior game IMO. However, I feel that they should be played in sequence rather than substitution.",
">\n\nThere's this idea that \"good\" movement in modern games is simply movement with no learning curve. Platformers in early 3D weren't afraid to make you ACTUALLY learn them. \nThis became an issue as early as Sunshine, where control over Mario's physics were at their peak (and the design around this to follow) but the learning curve to be good at it resulted in a game far more difficult than 64 was. Despite Mario having way better control and way more abilities. \nFast forward to Galaxy, and game will never ask of you the level of competency with its physics as Sunshine did. \nThis isn't just a Mario thing. Anyone who played the original Tomb Raider games vs the reboots where jumps/ climbs/ledges are impossible to mess up knows.",
">\n\nIn theory, SM64 has my favourite moveset for 3D Mario. I really love being able to flow through the different jumps.\nIn practice, however, the skill ceiling is simply too high and the controls too jank for the average player to accomplish these moves effectively. Mario's wide turning angle is flat out awful - one of the worst I've ever seen in a 3D platformer; mid-air jump is very stiff and can feel like wrestling with Mario to get him to land on what would otherwise be a relatively simple point-to-point jump; The side jump is extremely finicky to pull off; the long jump can often lead to Mario just crouching like a doofus and completely killing your momentum. Even in Super Mario 64 speedruns wherein players have mastered his controls, they will still make lots and lots of mistakes through no fault of their own due to issues with input registering. \nIn my opinion, some form of hybrid with the smoother controls of Sunshine and Galaxy and the range of inputs from SM64 would be my ideal Mario control. I think Odyssey comes close to this in some respects.",
">\n\nDisagree, good game.",
">\n\nyou are trying to judge a 27 year old game by modern standards my dude.",
">\n\nNot at all! There's a good many 3D platformers from that generation that, even if judged to modern standards, still hold up fantastically. I just did a playthrough of Conkers Bad Fur day on original hardware and it was a phenomenal game.",
">\n\n\nbut that's part of the problem - your average and even above-average player will struggle to get the most out of the moveset.\n\nexcept you are trying to \"100%\" the game. that's not something that an average or above average player achieves. that is literally a 100% completion of the game that requires you to use everything at your disposal to accomplish.\nof course it's going to be difficult for average or above-average players to achieve.\ni haven't ever gotten 100% on mario 6."
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