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Can we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.
A search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president. | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating."
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Words matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it. | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president."
] |
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If police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise. | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it."
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No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.
Oh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:
“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement. | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise."
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It’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course. | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement."
] |
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Cool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey. | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course."
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I bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey."
] |
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RaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?! | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next"
] |
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This is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”
Yes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs. | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!"
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we in the biz call this "cope" | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs."
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“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.
“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”
I wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided? | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\""
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We all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all. | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?"
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Would be hilarious to hear Biden say " This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt". Then wait to hear Trump's response. | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all."
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"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response."
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Cool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing.
I'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.
Look into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why "an alarming number" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office.
Prosecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law. | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month"
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"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law."
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"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour"
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"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations."
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Guess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump.
This isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit. | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide."
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Rehoboth Beach
what in the Westworld? /s
interesting biblical name I'd never heard of | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit."
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Why is the front page littered with multiple "Stormy Daniels" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to "controversial"? | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of"
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It’s not a raid. | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?"
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Call it a "planned search" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than "Stormy Daniels" or is it only "controversial" because it involves Biden? | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid."
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"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?"
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So you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than "Stormy Daniels" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on. | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy."
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So you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation. | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on."
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I would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted. | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation."
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A planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be. | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted."
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At the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they "searched" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted. | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be."
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Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else
Lol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes. | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted."
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"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes."
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I mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page.
For fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color. | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?"
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"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color."
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"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want."
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"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs."
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"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?"
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The sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?"
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You left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office. | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo"
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"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office."
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This story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.
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"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted."
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This is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics. | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part."
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And what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement.
You should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice. | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics."
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What does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story? | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice."
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Because of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house.
With context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter? | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?"
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TLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong! | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?"
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"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!"
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"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it."
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Definitely not more important than something "Stormy Daniels" has to say... | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol"
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Dude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say..."
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"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say...",
">\n\nDude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point"
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"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say...",
">\n\nDude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point",
">\n\nGood then."
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Except none were found? And he didn’t take them anywhere by any evidence so far? | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say...",
">\n\nDude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point",
">\n\nGood then.",
">\n\nJoe Biden takes classified documents very seriously. He also happens to take them places and forget about them. A lot."
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What do you mean they haven't found any? Not in Rehoboth, maybe, but they have found them in multiple places so far including his garage. | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say...",
">\n\nDude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point",
">\n\nGood then.",
">\n\nJoe Biden takes classified documents very seriously. He also happens to take them places and forget about them. A lot.",
">\n\nExcept none were found? And he didn’t take them anywhere by any evidence so far?"
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There’s zero evidence so far that he personally took them or forgot about them since he probably didn’t ever know they were there in the first place.
And the “multiple” you said was two, the only two. And we’re kinda done at this point. Yes I meant none today.
He notified them, handed them back. The story is basically over. | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say...",
">\n\nDude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point",
">\n\nGood then.",
">\n\nJoe Biden takes classified documents very seriously. He also happens to take them places and forget about them. A lot.",
">\n\nExcept none were found? And he didn’t take them anywhere by any evidence so far?",
">\n\nWhat do you mean they haven't found any? Not in Rehoboth, maybe, but they have found them in multiple places so far including his garage."
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Who do you think put them in his garage? Is he not responsible for them when they are in his care? | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say...",
">\n\nDude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point",
">\n\nGood then.",
">\n\nJoe Biden takes classified documents very seriously. He also happens to take them places and forget about them. A lot.",
">\n\nExcept none were found? And he didn’t take them anywhere by any evidence so far?",
">\n\nWhat do you mean they haven't found any? Not in Rehoboth, maybe, but they have found them in multiple places so far including his garage.",
">\n\nThere’s zero evidence so far that he personally took them or forgot about them since he probably didn’t ever know they were there in the first place. \nAnd the “multiple” you said was two, the only two. And we’re kinda done at this point. Yes I meant none today.\nHe notified them, handed them back. The story is basically over."
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Not even in the same ballpark as Trump's criminality. | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say...",
">\n\nDude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point",
">\n\nGood then.",
">\n\nJoe Biden takes classified documents very seriously. He also happens to take them places and forget about them. A lot.",
">\n\nExcept none were found? And he didn’t take them anywhere by any evidence so far?",
">\n\nWhat do you mean they haven't found any? Not in Rehoboth, maybe, but they have found them in multiple places so far including his garage.",
">\n\nThere’s zero evidence so far that he personally took them or forgot about them since he probably didn’t ever know they were there in the first place. \nAnd the “multiple” you said was two, the only two. And we’re kinda done at this point. Yes I meant none today.\nHe notified them, handed them back. The story is basically over.",
">\n\nWho do you think put them in his garage? Is he not responsible for them when they are in his care?"
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Dear GOP House: Impeach him so when trump is indicted you all STFU | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say...",
">\n\nDude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point",
">\n\nGood then.",
">\n\nJoe Biden takes classified documents very seriously. He also happens to take them places and forget about them. A lot.",
">\n\nExcept none were found? And he didn’t take them anywhere by any evidence so far?",
">\n\nWhat do you mean they haven't found any? Not in Rehoboth, maybe, but they have found them in multiple places so far including his garage.",
">\n\nThere’s zero evidence so far that he personally took them or forgot about them since he probably didn’t ever know they were there in the first place. \nAnd the “multiple” you said was two, the only two. And we’re kinda done at this point. Yes I meant none today.\nHe notified them, handed them back. The story is basically over.",
">\n\nWho do you think put them in his garage? Is he not responsible for them when they are in his care?",
">\n\nNot even in the same ballpark as Trump's criminality."
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can anyone one smarter than me explain why they're allowed to have top secret/confidential documents at home without having to like I don't know....sign them out and return them so there's an audit trail? Seems like a pretty large oversight. | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say...",
">\n\nDude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point",
">\n\nGood then.",
">\n\nJoe Biden takes classified documents very seriously. He also happens to take them places and forget about them. A lot.",
">\n\nExcept none were found? And he didn’t take them anywhere by any evidence so far?",
">\n\nWhat do you mean they haven't found any? Not in Rehoboth, maybe, but they have found them in multiple places so far including his garage.",
">\n\nThere’s zero evidence so far that he personally took them or forgot about them since he probably didn’t ever know they were there in the first place. \nAnd the “multiple” you said was two, the only two. And we’re kinda done at this point. Yes I meant none today.\nHe notified them, handed them back. The story is basically over.",
">\n\nWho do you think put them in his garage? Is he not responsible for them when they are in his care?",
">\n\nNot even in the same ballpark as Trump's criminality.",
">\n\nDear GOP House: Impeach him so when trump is indicted you all STFU"
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I think they do "sign them out". But POTUS and VPOTUS are special positions in the US govt. They are never not on duty. Imagine the president is home in Delaware for a weekend and he can't make a decision because some documents are back in DC? That's not acceptable. So I think some leeway is given to holders of those 2 offices. | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say...",
">\n\nDude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point",
">\n\nGood then.",
">\n\nJoe Biden takes classified documents very seriously. He also happens to take them places and forget about them. A lot.",
">\n\nExcept none were found? And he didn’t take them anywhere by any evidence so far?",
">\n\nWhat do you mean they haven't found any? Not in Rehoboth, maybe, but they have found them in multiple places so far including his garage.",
">\n\nThere’s zero evidence so far that he personally took them or forgot about them since he probably didn’t ever know they were there in the first place. \nAnd the “multiple” you said was two, the only two. And we’re kinda done at this point. Yes I meant none today.\nHe notified them, handed them back. The story is basically over.",
">\n\nWho do you think put them in his garage? Is he not responsible for them when they are in his care?",
">\n\nNot even in the same ballpark as Trump's criminality.",
">\n\nDear GOP House: Impeach him so when trump is indicted you all STFU",
">\n\ncan anyone one smarter than me explain why they're allowed to have top secret/confidential documents at home without having to like I don't know....sign them out and return them so there's an audit trail? Seems like a pretty large oversight."
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"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say...",
">\n\nDude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point",
">\n\nGood then.",
">\n\nJoe Biden takes classified documents very seriously. He also happens to take them places and forget about them. A lot.",
">\n\nExcept none were found? And he didn’t take them anywhere by any evidence so far?",
">\n\nWhat do you mean they haven't found any? Not in Rehoboth, maybe, but they have found them in multiple places so far including his garage.",
">\n\nThere’s zero evidence so far that he personally took them or forgot about them since he probably didn’t ever know they were there in the first place. \nAnd the “multiple” you said was two, the only two. And we’re kinda done at this point. Yes I meant none today.\nHe notified them, handed them back. The story is basically over.",
">\n\nWho do you think put them in his garage? Is he not responsible for them when they are in his care?",
">\n\nNot even in the same ballpark as Trump's criminality.",
">\n\nDear GOP House: Impeach him so when trump is indicted you all STFU",
">\n\ncan anyone one smarter than me explain why they're allowed to have top secret/confidential documents at home without having to like I don't know....sign them out and return them so there's an audit trail? Seems like a pretty large oversight.",
">\n\nI think they do \"sign them out\". But POTUS and VPOTUS are special positions in the US govt. They are never not on duty. Imagine the president is home in Delaware for a weekend and he can't make a decision because some documents are back in DC? That's not acceptable. So I think some leeway is given to holders of those 2 offices."
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"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say...",
">\n\nDude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point",
">\n\nGood then.",
">\n\nJoe Biden takes classified documents very seriously. He also happens to take them places and forget about them. A lot.",
">\n\nExcept none were found? And he didn’t take them anywhere by any evidence so far?",
">\n\nWhat do you mean they haven't found any? Not in Rehoboth, maybe, but they have found them in multiple places so far including his garage.",
">\n\nThere’s zero evidence so far that he personally took them or forgot about them since he probably didn’t ever know they were there in the first place. \nAnd the “multiple” you said was two, the only two. And we’re kinda done at this point. Yes I meant none today.\nHe notified them, handed them back. The story is basically over.",
">\n\nWho do you think put them in his garage? Is he not responsible for them when they are in his care?",
">\n\nNot even in the same ballpark as Trump's criminality.",
">\n\nDear GOP House: Impeach him so when trump is indicted you all STFU",
">\n\ncan anyone one smarter than me explain why they're allowed to have top secret/confidential documents at home without having to like I don't know....sign them out and return them so there's an audit trail? Seems like a pretty large oversight.",
">\n\nI think they do \"sign them out\". But POTUS and VPOTUS are special positions in the US govt. They are never not on duty. Imagine the president is home in Delaware for a weekend and he can't make a decision because some documents are back in DC? That's not acceptable. So I think some leeway is given to holders of those 2 offices.",
">\n\nThey found nothing already"
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So, when are Trump’s properties going to be searched? Oh yeah…right | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say...",
">\n\nDude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point",
">\n\nGood then.",
">\n\nJoe Biden takes classified documents very seriously. He also happens to take them places and forget about them. A lot.",
">\n\nExcept none were found? And he didn’t take them anywhere by any evidence so far?",
">\n\nWhat do you mean they haven't found any? Not in Rehoboth, maybe, but they have found them in multiple places so far including his garage.",
">\n\nThere’s zero evidence so far that he personally took them or forgot about them since he probably didn’t ever know they were there in the first place. \nAnd the “multiple” you said was two, the only two. And we’re kinda done at this point. Yes I meant none today.\nHe notified them, handed them back. The story is basically over.",
">\n\nWho do you think put them in his garage? Is he not responsible for them when they are in his care?",
">\n\nNot even in the same ballpark as Trump's criminality.",
">\n\nDear GOP House: Impeach him so when trump is indicted you all STFU",
">\n\ncan anyone one smarter than me explain why they're allowed to have top secret/confidential documents at home without having to like I don't know....sign them out and return them so there's an audit trail? Seems like a pretty large oversight.",
">\n\nI think they do \"sign them out\". But POTUS and VPOTUS are special positions in the US govt. They are never not on duty. Imagine the president is home in Delaware for a weekend and he can't make a decision because some documents are back in DC? That's not acceptable. So I think some leeway is given to holders of those 2 offices.",
">\n\nThey found nothing already",
">\n\nNothing was found."
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I'm less concerned with how many documents Biden has and how many homes he can buy as a public servant. America is so messed up | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say...",
">\n\nDude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point",
">\n\nGood then.",
">\n\nJoe Biden takes classified documents very seriously. He also happens to take them places and forget about them. A lot.",
">\n\nExcept none were found? And he didn’t take them anywhere by any evidence so far?",
">\n\nWhat do you mean they haven't found any? Not in Rehoboth, maybe, but they have found them in multiple places so far including his garage.",
">\n\nThere’s zero evidence so far that he personally took them or forgot about them since he probably didn’t ever know they were there in the first place. \nAnd the “multiple” you said was two, the only two. And we’re kinda done at this point. Yes I meant none today.\nHe notified them, handed them back. The story is basically over.",
">\n\nWho do you think put them in his garage? Is he not responsible for them when they are in his care?",
">\n\nNot even in the same ballpark as Trump's criminality.",
">\n\nDear GOP House: Impeach him so when trump is indicted you all STFU",
">\n\ncan anyone one smarter than me explain why they're allowed to have top secret/confidential documents at home without having to like I don't know....sign them out and return them so there's an audit trail? Seems like a pretty large oversight.",
">\n\nI think they do \"sign them out\". But POTUS and VPOTUS are special positions in the US govt. They are never not on duty. Imagine the president is home in Delaware for a weekend and he can't make a decision because some documents are back in DC? That's not acceptable. So I think some leeway is given to holders of those 2 offices.",
">\n\nThey found nothing already",
">\n\nNothing was found.",
">\n\nSo, when are Trump’s properties going to be searched? Oh yeah…right"
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I'm glad they didn't find any more documents. However, maybe this is just me but it's kinda weird that they searched the home of a sitting president. Because I'm old enough to remember when the DOJ wouldn't even ask Trump for the time of day much less subject his home to a search by the FBI. And here they just casually search Biden's home. Meanwhile those on the Right will still not be satisfied. Merrick Garland has done everything short of slapping handcuffs on Biden and it will not be good enough. | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say...",
">\n\nDude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point",
">\n\nGood then.",
">\n\nJoe Biden takes classified documents very seriously. He also happens to take them places and forget about them. A lot.",
">\n\nExcept none were found? And he didn’t take them anywhere by any evidence so far?",
">\n\nWhat do you mean they haven't found any? Not in Rehoboth, maybe, but they have found them in multiple places so far including his garage.",
">\n\nThere’s zero evidence so far that he personally took them or forgot about them since he probably didn’t ever know they were there in the first place. \nAnd the “multiple” you said was two, the only two. And we’re kinda done at this point. Yes I meant none today.\nHe notified them, handed them back. The story is basically over.",
">\n\nWho do you think put them in his garage? Is he not responsible for them when they are in his care?",
">\n\nNot even in the same ballpark as Trump's criminality.",
">\n\nDear GOP House: Impeach him so when trump is indicted you all STFU",
">\n\ncan anyone one smarter than me explain why they're allowed to have top secret/confidential documents at home without having to like I don't know....sign them out and return them so there's an audit trail? Seems like a pretty large oversight.",
">\n\nI think they do \"sign them out\". But POTUS and VPOTUS are special positions in the US govt. They are never not on duty. Imagine the president is home in Delaware for a weekend and he can't make a decision because some documents are back in DC? That's not acceptable. So I think some leeway is given to holders of those 2 offices.",
">\n\nThey found nothing already",
">\n\nNothing was found.",
">\n\nSo, when are Trump’s properties going to be searched? Oh yeah…right",
">\n\nI'm less concerned with how many documents Biden has and how many homes he can buy as a public servant. America is so messed up"
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The controversy isn’t over. I saw a report that said there maybe some information contained in classified documents that were referenced in Hunter Biden’s emails. The notes they found at this residence may have personal notes from classified information. They really should have a better way of tracking this stuff and keeping it secure. | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say...",
">\n\nDude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point",
">\n\nGood then.",
">\n\nJoe Biden takes classified documents very seriously. He also happens to take them places and forget about them. A lot.",
">\n\nExcept none were found? And he didn’t take them anywhere by any evidence so far?",
">\n\nWhat do you mean they haven't found any? Not in Rehoboth, maybe, but they have found them in multiple places so far including his garage.",
">\n\nThere’s zero evidence so far that he personally took them or forgot about them since he probably didn’t ever know they were there in the first place. \nAnd the “multiple” you said was two, the only two. And we’re kinda done at this point. Yes I meant none today.\nHe notified them, handed them back. The story is basically over.",
">\n\nWho do you think put them in his garage? Is he not responsible for them when they are in his care?",
">\n\nNot even in the same ballpark as Trump's criminality.",
">\n\nDear GOP House: Impeach him so when trump is indicted you all STFU",
">\n\ncan anyone one smarter than me explain why they're allowed to have top secret/confidential documents at home without having to like I don't know....sign them out and return them so there's an audit trail? Seems like a pretty large oversight.",
">\n\nI think they do \"sign them out\". But POTUS and VPOTUS are special positions in the US govt. They are never not on duty. Imagine the president is home in Delaware for a weekend and he can't make a decision because some documents are back in DC? That's not acceptable. So I think some leeway is given to holders of those 2 offices.",
">\n\nThey found nothing already",
">\n\nNothing was found.",
">\n\nSo, when are Trump’s properties going to be searched? Oh yeah…right",
">\n\nI'm less concerned with how many documents Biden has and how many homes he can buy as a public servant. America is so messed up",
">\n\nI'm glad they didn't find any more documents. However, maybe this is just me but it's kinda weird that they searched the home of a sitting president. Because I'm old enough to remember when the DOJ wouldn't even ask Trump for the time of day much less subject his home to a search by the FBI. And here they just casually search Biden's home. Meanwhile those on the Right will still not be satisfied. Merrick Garland has done everything short of slapping handcuffs on Biden and it will not be good enough."
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"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say...",
">\n\nDude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point",
">\n\nGood then.",
">\n\nJoe Biden takes classified documents very seriously. He also happens to take them places and forget about them. A lot.",
">\n\nExcept none were found? And he didn’t take them anywhere by any evidence so far?",
">\n\nWhat do you mean they haven't found any? Not in Rehoboth, maybe, but they have found them in multiple places so far including his garage.",
">\n\nThere’s zero evidence so far that he personally took them or forgot about them since he probably didn’t ever know they were there in the first place. \nAnd the “multiple” you said was two, the only two. And we’re kinda done at this point. Yes I meant none today.\nHe notified them, handed them back. The story is basically over.",
">\n\nWho do you think put them in his garage? Is he not responsible for them when they are in his care?",
">\n\nNot even in the same ballpark as Trump's criminality.",
">\n\nDear GOP House: Impeach him so when trump is indicted you all STFU",
">\n\ncan anyone one smarter than me explain why they're allowed to have top secret/confidential documents at home without having to like I don't know....sign them out and return them so there's an audit trail? Seems like a pretty large oversight.",
">\n\nI think they do \"sign them out\". But POTUS and VPOTUS are special positions in the US govt. They are never not on duty. Imagine the president is home in Delaware for a weekend and he can't make a decision because some documents are back in DC? That's not acceptable. So I think some leeway is given to holders of those 2 offices.",
">\n\nThey found nothing already",
">\n\nNothing was found.",
">\n\nSo, when are Trump’s properties going to be searched? Oh yeah…right",
">\n\nI'm less concerned with how many documents Biden has and how many homes he can buy as a public servant. America is so messed up",
">\n\nI'm glad they didn't find any more documents. However, maybe this is just me but it's kinda weird that they searched the home of a sitting president. Because I'm old enough to remember when the DOJ wouldn't even ask Trump for the time of day much less subject his home to a search by the FBI. And here they just casually search Biden's home. Meanwhile those on the Right will still not be satisfied. Merrick Garland has done everything short of slapping handcuffs on Biden and it will not be good enough.",
">\n\nThe controversy isn’t over. I saw a report that said there maybe some information contained in classified documents that were referenced in Hunter Biden’s emails. The notes they found at this residence may have personal notes from classified information. They really should have a better way of tracking this stuff and keeping it secure."
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"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say...",
">\n\nDude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point",
">\n\nGood then.",
">\n\nJoe Biden takes classified documents very seriously. He also happens to take them places and forget about them. A lot.",
">\n\nExcept none were found? And he didn’t take them anywhere by any evidence so far?",
">\n\nWhat do you mean they haven't found any? Not in Rehoboth, maybe, but they have found them in multiple places so far including his garage.",
">\n\nThere’s zero evidence so far that he personally took them or forgot about them since he probably didn’t ever know they were there in the first place. \nAnd the “multiple” you said was two, the only two. And we’re kinda done at this point. Yes I meant none today.\nHe notified them, handed them back. The story is basically over.",
">\n\nWho do you think put them in his garage? Is he not responsible for them when they are in his care?",
">\n\nNot even in the same ballpark as Trump's criminality.",
">\n\nDear GOP House: Impeach him so when trump is indicted you all STFU",
">\n\ncan anyone one smarter than me explain why they're allowed to have top secret/confidential documents at home without having to like I don't know....sign them out and return them so there's an audit trail? Seems like a pretty large oversight.",
">\n\nI think they do \"sign them out\". But POTUS and VPOTUS are special positions in the US govt. They are never not on duty. Imagine the president is home in Delaware for a weekend and he can't make a decision because some documents are back in DC? That's not acceptable. So I think some leeway is given to holders of those 2 offices.",
">\n\nThey found nothing already",
">\n\nNothing was found.",
">\n\nSo, when are Trump’s properties going to be searched? Oh yeah…right",
">\n\nI'm less concerned with how many documents Biden has and how many homes he can buy as a public servant. America is so messed up",
">\n\nI'm glad they didn't find any more documents. However, maybe this is just me but it's kinda weird that they searched the home of a sitting president. Because I'm old enough to remember when the DOJ wouldn't even ask Trump for the time of day much less subject his home to a search by the FBI. And here they just casually search Biden's home. Meanwhile those on the Right will still not be satisfied. Merrick Garland has done everything short of slapping handcuffs on Biden and it will not be good enough.",
">\n\nThe controversy isn’t over. I saw a report that said there maybe some information contained in classified documents that were referenced in Hunter Biden’s emails. The notes they found at this residence may have personal notes from classified information. They really should have a better way of tracking this stuff and keeping it secure.",
">\n\nit's not as bad though"
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"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say...",
">\n\nDude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point",
">\n\nGood then.",
">\n\nJoe Biden takes classified documents very seriously. He also happens to take them places and forget about them. A lot.",
">\n\nExcept none were found? And he didn’t take them anywhere by any evidence so far?",
">\n\nWhat do you mean they haven't found any? Not in Rehoboth, maybe, but they have found them in multiple places so far including his garage.",
">\n\nThere’s zero evidence so far that he personally took them or forgot about them since he probably didn’t ever know they were there in the first place. \nAnd the “multiple” you said was two, the only two. And we’re kinda done at this point. Yes I meant none today.\nHe notified them, handed them back. The story is basically over.",
">\n\nWho do you think put them in his garage? Is he not responsible for them when they are in his care?",
">\n\nNot even in the same ballpark as Trump's criminality.",
">\n\nDear GOP House: Impeach him so when trump is indicted you all STFU",
">\n\ncan anyone one smarter than me explain why they're allowed to have top secret/confidential documents at home without having to like I don't know....sign them out and return them so there's an audit trail? Seems like a pretty large oversight.",
">\n\nI think they do \"sign them out\". But POTUS and VPOTUS are special positions in the US govt. They are never not on duty. Imagine the president is home in Delaware for a weekend and he can't make a decision because some documents are back in DC? That's not acceptable. So I think some leeway is given to holders of those 2 offices.",
">\n\nThey found nothing already",
">\n\nNothing was found.",
">\n\nSo, when are Trump’s properties going to be searched? Oh yeah…right",
">\n\nI'm less concerned with how many documents Biden has and how many homes he can buy as a public servant. America is so messed up",
">\n\nI'm glad they didn't find any more documents. However, maybe this is just me but it's kinda weird that they searched the home of a sitting president. Because I'm old enough to remember when the DOJ wouldn't even ask Trump for the time of day much less subject his home to a search by the FBI. And here they just casually search Biden's home. Meanwhile those on the Right will still not be satisfied. Merrick Garland has done everything short of slapping handcuffs on Biden and it will not be good enough.",
">\n\nThe controversy isn’t over. I saw a report that said there maybe some information contained in classified documents that were referenced in Hunter Biden’s emails. The notes they found at this residence may have personal notes from classified information. They really should have a better way of tracking this stuff and keeping it secure.",
">\n\nit's not as bad though",
">\n\nStop trying to draw a parallel between the two."
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Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane? | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say...",
">\n\nDude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point",
">\n\nGood then.",
">\n\nJoe Biden takes classified documents very seriously. He also happens to take them places and forget about them. A lot.",
">\n\nExcept none were found? And he didn’t take them anywhere by any evidence so far?",
">\n\nWhat do you mean they haven't found any? Not in Rehoboth, maybe, but they have found them in multiple places so far including his garage.",
">\n\nThere’s zero evidence so far that he personally took them or forgot about them since he probably didn’t ever know they were there in the first place. \nAnd the “multiple” you said was two, the only two. And we’re kinda done at this point. Yes I meant none today.\nHe notified them, handed them back. The story is basically over.",
">\n\nWho do you think put them in his garage? Is he not responsible for them when they are in his care?",
">\n\nNot even in the same ballpark as Trump's criminality.",
">\n\nDear GOP House: Impeach him so when trump is indicted you all STFU",
">\n\ncan anyone one smarter than me explain why they're allowed to have top secret/confidential documents at home without having to like I don't know....sign them out and return them so there's an audit trail? Seems like a pretty large oversight.",
">\n\nI think they do \"sign them out\". But POTUS and VPOTUS are special positions in the US govt. They are never not on duty. Imagine the president is home in Delaware for a weekend and he can't make a decision because some documents are back in DC? That's not acceptable. So I think some leeway is given to holders of those 2 offices.",
">\n\nThey found nothing already",
">\n\nNothing was found.",
">\n\nSo, when are Trump’s properties going to be searched? Oh yeah…right",
">\n\nI'm less concerned with how many documents Biden has and how many homes he can buy as a public servant. America is so messed up",
">\n\nI'm glad they didn't find any more documents. However, maybe this is just me but it's kinda weird that they searched the home of a sitting president. Because I'm old enough to remember when the DOJ wouldn't even ask Trump for the time of day much less subject his home to a search by the FBI. And here they just casually search Biden's home. Meanwhile those on the Right will still not be satisfied. Merrick Garland has done everything short of slapping handcuffs on Biden and it will not be good enough.",
">\n\nThe controversy isn’t over. I saw a report that said there maybe some information contained in classified documents that were referenced in Hunter Biden’s emails. The notes they found at this residence may have personal notes from classified information. They really should have a better way of tracking this stuff and keeping it secure.",
">\n\nit's not as bad though",
">\n\nStop trying to draw a parallel between the two.",
">\n\nKeep going with the facts. One opened his door to get searched, the other lied and spread conspiracy theories. Draw a parallel with Mike Pence too, who swore he didn’t have documents while hammering Biden."
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I wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder. | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say...",
">\n\nDude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point",
">\n\nGood then.",
">\n\nJoe Biden takes classified documents very seriously. He also happens to take them places and forget about them. A lot.",
">\n\nExcept none were found? And he didn’t take them anywhere by any evidence so far?",
">\n\nWhat do you mean they haven't found any? Not in Rehoboth, maybe, but they have found them in multiple places so far including his garage.",
">\n\nThere’s zero evidence so far that he personally took them or forgot about them since he probably didn’t ever know they were there in the first place. \nAnd the “multiple” you said was two, the only two. And we’re kinda done at this point. Yes I meant none today.\nHe notified them, handed them back. The story is basically over.",
">\n\nWho do you think put them in his garage? Is he not responsible for them when they are in his care?",
">\n\nNot even in the same ballpark as Trump's criminality.",
">\n\nDear GOP House: Impeach him so when trump is indicted you all STFU",
">\n\ncan anyone one smarter than me explain why they're allowed to have top secret/confidential documents at home without having to like I don't know....sign them out and return them so there's an audit trail? Seems like a pretty large oversight.",
">\n\nI think they do \"sign them out\". But POTUS and VPOTUS are special positions in the US govt. They are never not on duty. Imagine the president is home in Delaware for a weekend and he can't make a decision because some documents are back in DC? That's not acceptable. So I think some leeway is given to holders of those 2 offices.",
">\n\nThey found nothing already",
">\n\nNothing was found.",
">\n\nSo, when are Trump’s properties going to be searched? Oh yeah…right",
">\n\nI'm less concerned with how many documents Biden has and how many homes he can buy as a public servant. America is so messed up",
">\n\nI'm glad they didn't find any more documents. However, maybe this is just me but it's kinda weird that they searched the home of a sitting president. Because I'm old enough to remember when the DOJ wouldn't even ask Trump for the time of day much less subject his home to a search by the FBI. And here they just casually search Biden's home. Meanwhile those on the Right will still not be satisfied. Merrick Garland has done everything short of slapping handcuffs on Biden and it will not be good enough.",
">\n\nThe controversy isn’t over. I saw a report that said there maybe some information contained in classified documents that were referenced in Hunter Biden’s emails. The notes they found at this residence may have personal notes from classified information. They really should have a better way of tracking this stuff and keeping it secure.",
">\n\nit's not as bad though",
">\n\nStop trying to draw a parallel between the two.",
">\n\nKeep going with the facts. One opened his door to get searched, the other lied and spread conspiracy theories. Draw a parallel with Mike Pence too, who swore he didn’t have documents while hammering Biden.",
">\n\nWhy hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?"
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If the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind. | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say...",
">\n\nDude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point",
">\n\nGood then.",
">\n\nJoe Biden takes classified documents very seriously. He also happens to take them places and forget about them. A lot.",
">\n\nExcept none were found? And he didn’t take them anywhere by any evidence so far?",
">\n\nWhat do you mean they haven't found any? Not in Rehoboth, maybe, but they have found them in multiple places so far including his garage.",
">\n\nThere’s zero evidence so far that he personally took them or forgot about them since he probably didn’t ever know they were there in the first place. \nAnd the “multiple” you said was two, the only two. And we’re kinda done at this point. Yes I meant none today.\nHe notified them, handed them back. The story is basically over.",
">\n\nWho do you think put them in his garage? Is he not responsible for them when they are in his care?",
">\n\nNot even in the same ballpark as Trump's criminality.",
">\n\nDear GOP House: Impeach him so when trump is indicted you all STFU",
">\n\ncan anyone one smarter than me explain why they're allowed to have top secret/confidential documents at home without having to like I don't know....sign them out and return them so there's an audit trail? Seems like a pretty large oversight.",
">\n\nI think they do \"sign them out\". But POTUS and VPOTUS are special positions in the US govt. They are never not on duty. Imagine the president is home in Delaware for a weekend and he can't make a decision because some documents are back in DC? That's not acceptable. So I think some leeway is given to holders of those 2 offices.",
">\n\nThey found nothing already",
">\n\nNothing was found.",
">\n\nSo, when are Trump’s properties going to be searched? Oh yeah…right",
">\n\nI'm less concerned with how many documents Biden has and how many homes he can buy as a public servant. America is so messed up",
">\n\nI'm glad they didn't find any more documents. However, maybe this is just me but it's kinda weird that they searched the home of a sitting president. Because I'm old enough to remember when the DOJ wouldn't even ask Trump for the time of day much less subject his home to a search by the FBI. And here they just casually search Biden's home. Meanwhile those on the Right will still not be satisfied. Merrick Garland has done everything short of slapping handcuffs on Biden and it will not be good enough.",
">\n\nThe controversy isn’t over. I saw a report that said there maybe some information contained in classified documents that were referenced in Hunter Biden’s emails. The notes they found at this residence may have personal notes from classified information. They really should have a better way of tracking this stuff and keeping it secure.",
">\n\nit's not as bad though",
">\n\nStop trying to draw a parallel between the two.",
">\n\nKeep going with the facts. One opened his door to get searched, the other lied and spread conspiracy theories. Draw a parallel with Mike Pence too, who swore he didn’t have documents while hammering Biden.",
">\n\nWhy hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder."
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I tend to agree. I've been wrong before though. | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say...",
">\n\nDude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point",
">\n\nGood then.",
">\n\nJoe Biden takes classified documents very seriously. He also happens to take them places and forget about them. A lot.",
">\n\nExcept none were found? And he didn’t take them anywhere by any evidence so far?",
">\n\nWhat do you mean they haven't found any? Not in Rehoboth, maybe, but they have found them in multiple places so far including his garage.",
">\n\nThere’s zero evidence so far that he personally took them or forgot about them since he probably didn’t ever know they were there in the first place. \nAnd the “multiple” you said was two, the only two. And we’re kinda done at this point. Yes I meant none today.\nHe notified them, handed them back. The story is basically over.",
">\n\nWho do you think put them in his garage? Is he not responsible for them when they are in his care?",
">\n\nNot even in the same ballpark as Trump's criminality.",
">\n\nDear GOP House: Impeach him so when trump is indicted you all STFU",
">\n\ncan anyone one smarter than me explain why they're allowed to have top secret/confidential documents at home without having to like I don't know....sign them out and return them so there's an audit trail? Seems like a pretty large oversight.",
">\n\nI think they do \"sign them out\". But POTUS and VPOTUS are special positions in the US govt. They are never not on duty. Imagine the president is home in Delaware for a weekend and he can't make a decision because some documents are back in DC? That's not acceptable. So I think some leeway is given to holders of those 2 offices.",
">\n\nThey found nothing already",
">\n\nNothing was found.",
">\n\nSo, when are Trump’s properties going to be searched? Oh yeah…right",
">\n\nI'm less concerned with how many documents Biden has and how many homes he can buy as a public servant. America is so messed up",
">\n\nI'm glad they didn't find any more documents. However, maybe this is just me but it's kinda weird that they searched the home of a sitting president. Because I'm old enough to remember when the DOJ wouldn't even ask Trump for the time of day much less subject his home to a search by the FBI. And here they just casually search Biden's home. Meanwhile those on the Right will still not be satisfied. Merrick Garland has done everything short of slapping handcuffs on Biden and it will not be good enough.",
">\n\nThe controversy isn’t over. I saw a report that said there maybe some information contained in classified documents that were referenced in Hunter Biden’s emails. The notes they found at this residence may have personal notes from classified information. They really should have a better way of tracking this stuff and keeping it secure.",
">\n\nit's not as bad though",
">\n\nStop trying to draw a parallel between the two.",
">\n\nKeep going with the facts. One opened his door to get searched, the other lied and spread conspiracy theories. Draw a parallel with Mike Pence too, who swore he didn’t have documents while hammering Biden.",
">\n\nWhy hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind."
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"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say...",
">\n\nDude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point",
">\n\nGood then.",
">\n\nJoe Biden takes classified documents very seriously. He also happens to take them places and forget about them. A lot.",
">\n\nExcept none were found? And he didn’t take them anywhere by any evidence so far?",
">\n\nWhat do you mean they haven't found any? Not in Rehoboth, maybe, but they have found them in multiple places so far including his garage.",
">\n\nThere’s zero evidence so far that he personally took them or forgot about them since he probably didn’t ever know they were there in the first place. \nAnd the “multiple” you said was two, the only two. And we’re kinda done at this point. Yes I meant none today.\nHe notified them, handed them back. The story is basically over.",
">\n\nWho do you think put them in his garage? Is he not responsible for them when they are in his care?",
">\n\nNot even in the same ballpark as Trump's criminality.",
">\n\nDear GOP House: Impeach him so when trump is indicted you all STFU",
">\n\ncan anyone one smarter than me explain why they're allowed to have top secret/confidential documents at home without having to like I don't know....sign them out and return them so there's an audit trail? Seems like a pretty large oversight.",
">\n\nI think they do \"sign them out\". But POTUS and VPOTUS are special positions in the US govt. They are never not on duty. Imagine the president is home in Delaware for a weekend and he can't make a decision because some documents are back in DC? That's not acceptable. So I think some leeway is given to holders of those 2 offices.",
">\n\nThey found nothing already",
">\n\nNothing was found.",
">\n\nSo, when are Trump’s properties going to be searched? Oh yeah…right",
">\n\nI'm less concerned with how many documents Biden has and how many homes he can buy as a public servant. America is so messed up",
">\n\nI'm glad they didn't find any more documents. However, maybe this is just me but it's kinda weird that they searched the home of a sitting president. Because I'm old enough to remember when the DOJ wouldn't even ask Trump for the time of day much less subject his home to a search by the FBI. And here they just casually search Biden's home. Meanwhile those on the Right will still not be satisfied. Merrick Garland has done everything short of slapping handcuffs on Biden and it will not be good enough.",
">\n\nThe controversy isn’t over. I saw a report that said there maybe some information contained in classified documents that were referenced in Hunter Biden’s emails. The notes they found at this residence may have personal notes from classified information. They really should have a better way of tracking this stuff and keeping it secure.",
">\n\nit's not as bad though",
">\n\nStop trying to draw a parallel between the two.",
">\n\nKeep going with the facts. One opened his door to get searched, the other lied and spread conspiracy theories. Draw a parallel with Mike Pence too, who swore he didn’t have documents while hammering Biden.",
">\n\nWhy hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though."
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"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say...",
">\n\nDude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point",
">\n\nGood then.",
">\n\nJoe Biden takes classified documents very seriously. He also happens to take them places and forget about them. A lot.",
">\n\nExcept none were found? And he didn’t take them anywhere by any evidence so far?",
">\n\nWhat do you mean they haven't found any? Not in Rehoboth, maybe, but they have found them in multiple places so far including his garage.",
">\n\nThere’s zero evidence so far that he personally took them or forgot about them since he probably didn’t ever know they were there in the first place. \nAnd the “multiple” you said was two, the only two. And we’re kinda done at this point. Yes I meant none today.\nHe notified them, handed them back. The story is basically over.",
">\n\nWho do you think put them in his garage? Is he not responsible for them when they are in his care?",
">\n\nNot even in the same ballpark as Trump's criminality.",
">\n\nDear GOP House: Impeach him so when trump is indicted you all STFU",
">\n\ncan anyone one smarter than me explain why they're allowed to have top secret/confidential documents at home without having to like I don't know....sign them out and return them so there's an audit trail? Seems like a pretty large oversight.",
">\n\nI think they do \"sign them out\". But POTUS and VPOTUS are special positions in the US govt. They are never not on duty. Imagine the president is home in Delaware for a weekend and he can't make a decision because some documents are back in DC? That's not acceptable. So I think some leeway is given to holders of those 2 offices.",
">\n\nThey found nothing already",
">\n\nNothing was found.",
">\n\nSo, when are Trump’s properties going to be searched? Oh yeah…right",
">\n\nI'm less concerned with how many documents Biden has and how many homes he can buy as a public servant. America is so messed up",
">\n\nI'm glad they didn't find any more documents. However, maybe this is just me but it's kinda weird that they searched the home of a sitting president. Because I'm old enough to remember when the DOJ wouldn't even ask Trump for the time of day much less subject his home to a search by the FBI. And here they just casually search Biden's home. Meanwhile those on the Right will still not be satisfied. Merrick Garland has done everything short of slapping handcuffs on Biden and it will not be good enough.",
">\n\nThe controversy isn’t over. I saw a report that said there maybe some information contained in classified documents that were referenced in Hunter Biden’s emails. The notes they found at this residence may have personal notes from classified information. They really should have a better way of tracking this stuff and keeping it secure.",
">\n\nit's not as bad though",
">\n\nStop trying to draw a parallel between the two.",
">\n\nKeep going with the facts. One opened his door to get searched, the other lied and spread conspiracy theories. Draw a parallel with Mike Pence too, who swore he didn’t have documents while hammering Biden.",
">\n\nWhy hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment."
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I will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence. | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say...",
">\n\nDude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point",
">\n\nGood then.",
">\n\nJoe Biden takes classified documents very seriously. He also happens to take them places and forget about them. A lot.",
">\n\nExcept none were found? And he didn’t take them anywhere by any evidence so far?",
">\n\nWhat do you mean they haven't found any? Not in Rehoboth, maybe, but they have found them in multiple places so far including his garage.",
">\n\nThere’s zero evidence so far that he personally took them or forgot about them since he probably didn’t ever know they were there in the first place. \nAnd the “multiple” you said was two, the only two. And we’re kinda done at this point. Yes I meant none today.\nHe notified them, handed them back. The story is basically over.",
">\n\nWho do you think put them in his garage? Is he not responsible for them when they are in his care?",
">\n\nNot even in the same ballpark as Trump's criminality.",
">\n\nDear GOP House: Impeach him so when trump is indicted you all STFU",
">\n\ncan anyone one smarter than me explain why they're allowed to have top secret/confidential documents at home without having to like I don't know....sign them out and return them so there's an audit trail? Seems like a pretty large oversight.",
">\n\nI think they do \"sign them out\". But POTUS and VPOTUS are special positions in the US govt. They are never not on duty. Imagine the president is home in Delaware for a weekend and he can't make a decision because some documents are back in DC? That's not acceptable. So I think some leeway is given to holders of those 2 offices.",
">\n\nThey found nothing already",
">\n\nNothing was found.",
">\n\nSo, when are Trump’s properties going to be searched? Oh yeah…right",
">\n\nI'm less concerned with how many documents Biden has and how many homes he can buy as a public servant. America is so messed up",
">\n\nI'm glad they didn't find any more documents. However, maybe this is just me but it's kinda weird that they searched the home of a sitting president. Because I'm old enough to remember when the DOJ wouldn't even ask Trump for the time of day much less subject his home to a search by the FBI. And here they just casually search Biden's home. Meanwhile those on the Right will still not be satisfied. Merrick Garland has done everything short of slapping handcuffs on Biden and it will not be good enough.",
">\n\nThe controversy isn’t over. I saw a report that said there maybe some information contained in classified documents that were referenced in Hunter Biden’s emails. The notes they found at this residence may have personal notes from classified information. They really should have a better way of tracking this stuff and keeping it secure.",
">\n\nit's not as bad though",
">\n\nStop trying to draw a parallel between the two.",
">\n\nKeep going with the facts. One opened his door to get searched, the other lied and spread conspiracy theories. Draw a parallel with Mike Pence too, who swore he didn’t have documents while hammering Biden.",
">\n\nWhy hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is."
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The levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them. | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say...",
">\n\nDude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point",
">\n\nGood then.",
">\n\nJoe Biden takes classified documents very seriously. He also happens to take them places and forget about them. A lot.",
">\n\nExcept none were found? And he didn’t take them anywhere by any evidence so far?",
">\n\nWhat do you mean they haven't found any? Not in Rehoboth, maybe, but they have found them in multiple places so far including his garage.",
">\n\nThere’s zero evidence so far that he personally took them or forgot about them since he probably didn’t ever know they were there in the first place. \nAnd the “multiple” you said was two, the only two. And we’re kinda done at this point. Yes I meant none today.\nHe notified them, handed them back. The story is basically over.",
">\n\nWho do you think put them in his garage? Is he not responsible for them when they are in his care?",
">\n\nNot even in the same ballpark as Trump's criminality.",
">\n\nDear GOP House: Impeach him so when trump is indicted you all STFU",
">\n\ncan anyone one smarter than me explain why they're allowed to have top secret/confidential documents at home without having to like I don't know....sign them out and return them so there's an audit trail? Seems like a pretty large oversight.",
">\n\nI think they do \"sign them out\". But POTUS and VPOTUS are special positions in the US govt. They are never not on duty. Imagine the president is home in Delaware for a weekend and he can't make a decision because some documents are back in DC? That's not acceptable. So I think some leeway is given to holders of those 2 offices.",
">\n\nThey found nothing already",
">\n\nNothing was found.",
">\n\nSo, when are Trump’s properties going to be searched? Oh yeah…right",
">\n\nI'm less concerned with how many documents Biden has and how many homes he can buy as a public servant. America is so messed up",
">\n\nI'm glad they didn't find any more documents. However, maybe this is just me but it's kinda weird that they searched the home of a sitting president. Because I'm old enough to remember when the DOJ wouldn't even ask Trump for the time of day much less subject his home to a search by the FBI. And here they just casually search Biden's home. Meanwhile those on the Right will still not be satisfied. Merrick Garland has done everything short of slapping handcuffs on Biden and it will not be good enough.",
">\n\nThe controversy isn’t over. I saw a report that said there maybe some information contained in classified documents that were referenced in Hunter Biden’s emails. The notes they found at this residence may have personal notes from classified information. They really should have a better way of tracking this stuff and keeping it secure.",
">\n\nit's not as bad though",
">\n\nStop trying to draw a parallel between the two.",
">\n\nKeep going with the facts. One opened his door to get searched, the other lied and spread conspiracy theories. Draw a parallel with Mike Pence too, who swore he didn’t have documents while hammering Biden.",
">\n\nWhy hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence."
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If they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.
But there's still a world of difference between "I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored" vs "I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back." | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say...",
">\n\nDude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point",
">\n\nGood then.",
">\n\nJoe Biden takes classified documents very seriously. He also happens to take them places and forget about them. A lot.",
">\n\nExcept none were found? And he didn’t take them anywhere by any evidence so far?",
">\n\nWhat do you mean they haven't found any? Not in Rehoboth, maybe, but they have found them in multiple places so far including his garage.",
">\n\nThere’s zero evidence so far that he personally took them or forgot about them since he probably didn’t ever know they were there in the first place. \nAnd the “multiple” you said was two, the only two. And we’re kinda done at this point. Yes I meant none today.\nHe notified them, handed them back. The story is basically over.",
">\n\nWho do you think put them in his garage? Is he not responsible for them when they are in his care?",
">\n\nNot even in the same ballpark as Trump's criminality.",
">\n\nDear GOP House: Impeach him so when trump is indicted you all STFU",
">\n\ncan anyone one smarter than me explain why they're allowed to have top secret/confidential documents at home without having to like I don't know....sign them out and return them so there's an audit trail? Seems like a pretty large oversight.",
">\n\nI think they do \"sign them out\". But POTUS and VPOTUS are special positions in the US govt. They are never not on duty. Imagine the president is home in Delaware for a weekend and he can't make a decision because some documents are back in DC? That's not acceptable. So I think some leeway is given to holders of those 2 offices.",
">\n\nThey found nothing already",
">\n\nNothing was found.",
">\n\nSo, when are Trump’s properties going to be searched? Oh yeah…right",
">\n\nI'm less concerned with how many documents Biden has and how many homes he can buy as a public servant. America is so messed up",
">\n\nI'm glad they didn't find any more documents. However, maybe this is just me but it's kinda weird that they searched the home of a sitting president. Because I'm old enough to remember when the DOJ wouldn't even ask Trump for the time of day much less subject his home to a search by the FBI. And here they just casually search Biden's home. Meanwhile those on the Right will still not be satisfied. Merrick Garland has done everything short of slapping handcuffs on Biden and it will not be good enough.",
">\n\nThe controversy isn’t over. I saw a report that said there maybe some information contained in classified documents that were referenced in Hunter Biden’s emails. The notes they found at this residence may have personal notes from classified information. They really should have a better way of tracking this stuff and keeping it secure.",
">\n\nit's not as bad though",
">\n\nStop trying to draw a parallel between the two.",
">\n\nKeep going with the facts. One opened his door to get searched, the other lied and spread conspiracy theories. Draw a parallel with Mike Pence too, who swore he didn’t have documents while hammering Biden.",
">\n\nWhy hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them."
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"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say...",
">\n\nDude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point",
">\n\nGood then.",
">\n\nJoe Biden takes classified documents very seriously. He also happens to take them places and forget about them. A lot.",
">\n\nExcept none were found? And he didn’t take them anywhere by any evidence so far?",
">\n\nWhat do you mean they haven't found any? Not in Rehoboth, maybe, but they have found them in multiple places so far including his garage.",
">\n\nThere’s zero evidence so far that he personally took them or forgot about them since he probably didn’t ever know they were there in the first place. \nAnd the “multiple” you said was two, the only two. And we’re kinda done at this point. Yes I meant none today.\nHe notified them, handed them back. The story is basically over.",
">\n\nWho do you think put them in his garage? Is he not responsible for them when they are in his care?",
">\n\nNot even in the same ballpark as Trump's criminality.",
">\n\nDear GOP House: Impeach him so when trump is indicted you all STFU",
">\n\ncan anyone one smarter than me explain why they're allowed to have top secret/confidential documents at home without having to like I don't know....sign them out and return them so there's an audit trail? Seems like a pretty large oversight.",
">\n\nI think they do \"sign them out\". But POTUS and VPOTUS are special positions in the US govt. They are never not on duty. Imagine the president is home in Delaware for a weekend and he can't make a decision because some documents are back in DC? That's not acceptable. So I think some leeway is given to holders of those 2 offices.",
">\n\nThey found nothing already",
">\n\nNothing was found.",
">\n\nSo, when are Trump’s properties going to be searched? Oh yeah…right",
">\n\nI'm less concerned with how many documents Biden has and how many homes he can buy as a public servant. America is so messed up",
">\n\nI'm glad they didn't find any more documents. However, maybe this is just me but it's kinda weird that they searched the home of a sitting president. Because I'm old enough to remember when the DOJ wouldn't even ask Trump for the time of day much less subject his home to a search by the FBI. And here they just casually search Biden's home. Meanwhile those on the Right will still not be satisfied. Merrick Garland has done everything short of slapping handcuffs on Biden and it will not be good enough.",
">\n\nThe controversy isn’t over. I saw a report that said there maybe some information contained in classified documents that were referenced in Hunter Biden’s emails. The notes they found at this residence may have personal notes from classified information. They really should have a better way of tracking this stuff and keeping it secure.",
">\n\nit's not as bad though",
">\n\nStop trying to draw a parallel between the two.",
">\n\nKeep going with the facts. One opened his door to get searched, the other lied and spread conspiracy theories. Draw a parallel with Mike Pence too, who swore he didn’t have documents while hammering Biden.",
">\n\nWhy hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\""
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Because the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back. | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say...",
">\n\nDude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point",
">\n\nGood then.",
">\n\nJoe Biden takes classified documents very seriously. He also happens to take them places and forget about them. A lot.",
">\n\nExcept none were found? And he didn’t take them anywhere by any evidence so far?",
">\n\nWhat do you mean they haven't found any? Not in Rehoboth, maybe, but they have found them in multiple places so far including his garage.",
">\n\nThere’s zero evidence so far that he personally took them or forgot about them since he probably didn’t ever know they were there in the first place. \nAnd the “multiple” you said was two, the only two. And we’re kinda done at this point. Yes I meant none today.\nHe notified them, handed them back. The story is basically over.",
">\n\nWho do you think put them in his garage? Is he not responsible for them when they are in his care?",
">\n\nNot even in the same ballpark as Trump's criminality.",
">\n\nDear GOP House: Impeach him so when trump is indicted you all STFU",
">\n\ncan anyone one smarter than me explain why they're allowed to have top secret/confidential documents at home without having to like I don't know....sign them out and return them so there's an audit trail? Seems like a pretty large oversight.",
">\n\nI think they do \"sign them out\". But POTUS and VPOTUS are special positions in the US govt. They are never not on duty. Imagine the president is home in Delaware for a weekend and he can't make a decision because some documents are back in DC? That's not acceptable. So I think some leeway is given to holders of those 2 offices.",
">\n\nThey found nothing already",
">\n\nNothing was found.",
">\n\nSo, when are Trump’s properties going to be searched? Oh yeah…right",
">\n\nI'm less concerned with how many documents Biden has and how many homes he can buy as a public servant. America is so messed up",
">\n\nI'm glad they didn't find any more documents. However, maybe this is just me but it's kinda weird that they searched the home of a sitting president. Because I'm old enough to remember when the DOJ wouldn't even ask Trump for the time of day much less subject his home to a search by the FBI. And here they just casually search Biden's home. Meanwhile those on the Right will still not be satisfied. Merrick Garland has done everything short of slapping handcuffs on Biden and it will not be good enough.",
">\n\nThe controversy isn’t over. I saw a report that said there maybe some information contained in classified documents that were referenced in Hunter Biden’s emails. The notes they found at this residence may have personal notes from classified information. They really should have a better way of tracking this stuff and keeping it secure.",
">\n\nit's not as bad though",
">\n\nStop trying to draw a parallel between the two.",
">\n\nKeep going with the facts. One opened his door to get searched, the other lied and spread conspiracy theories. Draw a parallel with Mike Pence too, who swore he didn’t have documents while hammering Biden.",
">\n\nWhy hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?"
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So you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say...",
">\n\nDude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point",
">\n\nGood then.",
">\n\nJoe Biden takes classified documents very seriously. He also happens to take them places and forget about them. A lot.",
">\n\nExcept none were found? And he didn’t take them anywhere by any evidence so far?",
">\n\nWhat do you mean they haven't found any? Not in Rehoboth, maybe, but they have found them in multiple places so far including his garage.",
">\n\nThere’s zero evidence so far that he personally took them or forgot about them since he probably didn’t ever know they were there in the first place. \nAnd the “multiple” you said was two, the only two. And we’re kinda done at this point. Yes I meant none today.\nHe notified them, handed them back. The story is basically over.",
">\n\nWho do you think put them in his garage? Is he not responsible for them when they are in his care?",
">\n\nNot even in the same ballpark as Trump's criminality.",
">\n\nDear GOP House: Impeach him so when trump is indicted you all STFU",
">\n\ncan anyone one smarter than me explain why they're allowed to have top secret/confidential documents at home without having to like I don't know....sign them out and return them so there's an audit trail? Seems like a pretty large oversight.",
">\n\nI think they do \"sign them out\". But POTUS and VPOTUS are special positions in the US govt. They are never not on duty. Imagine the president is home in Delaware for a weekend and he can't make a decision because some documents are back in DC? That's not acceptable. So I think some leeway is given to holders of those 2 offices.",
">\n\nThey found nothing already",
">\n\nNothing was found.",
">\n\nSo, when are Trump’s properties going to be searched? Oh yeah…right",
">\n\nI'm less concerned with how many documents Biden has and how many homes he can buy as a public servant. America is so messed up",
">\n\nI'm glad they didn't find any more documents. However, maybe this is just me but it's kinda weird that they searched the home of a sitting president. Because I'm old enough to remember when the DOJ wouldn't even ask Trump for the time of day much less subject his home to a search by the FBI. And here they just casually search Biden's home. Meanwhile those on the Right will still not be satisfied. Merrick Garland has done everything short of slapping handcuffs on Biden and it will not be good enough.",
">\n\nThe controversy isn’t over. I saw a report that said there maybe some information contained in classified documents that were referenced in Hunter Biden’s emails. The notes they found at this residence may have personal notes from classified information. They really should have a better way of tracking this stuff and keeping it secure.",
">\n\nit's not as bad though",
">\n\nStop trying to draw a parallel between the two.",
">\n\nKeep going with the facts. One opened his door to get searched, the other lied and spread conspiracy theories. Draw a parallel with Mike Pence too, who swore he didn’t have documents while hammering Biden.",
">\n\nWhy hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back."
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"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say...",
">\n\nDude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point",
">\n\nGood then.",
">\n\nJoe Biden takes classified documents very seriously. He also happens to take them places and forget about them. A lot.",
">\n\nExcept none were found? And he didn’t take them anywhere by any evidence so far?",
">\n\nWhat do you mean they haven't found any? Not in Rehoboth, maybe, but they have found them in multiple places so far including his garage.",
">\n\nThere’s zero evidence so far that he personally took them or forgot about them since he probably didn’t ever know they were there in the first place. \nAnd the “multiple” you said was two, the only two. And we’re kinda done at this point. Yes I meant none today.\nHe notified them, handed them back. The story is basically over.",
">\n\nWho do you think put them in his garage? Is he not responsible for them when they are in his care?",
">\n\nNot even in the same ballpark as Trump's criminality.",
">\n\nDear GOP House: Impeach him so when trump is indicted you all STFU",
">\n\ncan anyone one smarter than me explain why they're allowed to have top secret/confidential documents at home without having to like I don't know....sign them out and return them so there's an audit trail? Seems like a pretty large oversight.",
">\n\nI think they do \"sign them out\". But POTUS and VPOTUS are special positions in the US govt. They are never not on duty. Imagine the president is home in Delaware for a weekend and he can't make a decision because some documents are back in DC? That's not acceptable. So I think some leeway is given to holders of those 2 offices.",
">\n\nThey found nothing already",
">\n\nNothing was found.",
">\n\nSo, when are Trump’s properties going to be searched? Oh yeah…right",
">\n\nI'm less concerned with how many documents Biden has and how many homes he can buy as a public servant. America is so messed up",
">\n\nI'm glad they didn't find any more documents. However, maybe this is just me but it's kinda weird that they searched the home of a sitting president. Because I'm old enough to remember when the DOJ wouldn't even ask Trump for the time of day much less subject his home to a search by the FBI. And here they just casually search Biden's home. Meanwhile those on the Right will still not be satisfied. Merrick Garland has done everything short of slapping handcuffs on Biden and it will not be good enough.",
">\n\nThe controversy isn’t over. I saw a report that said there maybe some information contained in classified documents that were referenced in Hunter Biden’s emails. The notes they found at this residence may have personal notes from classified information. They really should have a better way of tracking this stuff and keeping it secure.",
">\n\nit's not as bad though",
">\n\nStop trying to draw a parallel between the two.",
">\n\nKeep going with the facts. One opened his door to get searched, the other lied and spread conspiracy theories. Draw a parallel with Mike Pence too, who swore he didn’t have documents while hammering Biden.",
">\n\nWhy hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol"
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Lol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”
Also who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say...",
">\n\nDude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point",
">\n\nGood then.",
">\n\nJoe Biden takes classified documents very seriously. He also happens to take them places and forget about them. A lot.",
">\n\nExcept none were found? And he didn’t take them anywhere by any evidence so far?",
">\n\nWhat do you mean they haven't found any? Not in Rehoboth, maybe, but they have found them in multiple places so far including his garage.",
">\n\nThere’s zero evidence so far that he personally took them or forgot about them since he probably didn’t ever know they were there in the first place. \nAnd the “multiple” you said was two, the only two. And we’re kinda done at this point. Yes I meant none today.\nHe notified them, handed them back. The story is basically over.",
">\n\nWho do you think put them in his garage? Is he not responsible for them when they are in his care?",
">\n\nNot even in the same ballpark as Trump's criminality.",
">\n\nDear GOP House: Impeach him so when trump is indicted you all STFU",
">\n\ncan anyone one smarter than me explain why they're allowed to have top secret/confidential documents at home without having to like I don't know....sign them out and return them so there's an audit trail? Seems like a pretty large oversight.",
">\n\nI think they do \"sign them out\". But POTUS and VPOTUS are special positions in the US govt. They are never not on duty. Imagine the president is home in Delaware for a weekend and he can't make a decision because some documents are back in DC? That's not acceptable. So I think some leeway is given to holders of those 2 offices.",
">\n\nThey found nothing already",
">\n\nNothing was found.",
">\n\nSo, when are Trump’s properties going to be searched? Oh yeah…right",
">\n\nI'm less concerned with how many documents Biden has and how many homes he can buy as a public servant. America is so messed up",
">\n\nI'm glad they didn't find any more documents. However, maybe this is just me but it's kinda weird that they searched the home of a sitting president. Because I'm old enough to remember when the DOJ wouldn't even ask Trump for the time of day much less subject his home to a search by the FBI. And here they just casually search Biden's home. Meanwhile those on the Right will still not be satisfied. Merrick Garland has done everything short of slapping handcuffs on Biden and it will not be good enough.",
">\n\nThe controversy isn’t over. I saw a report that said there maybe some information contained in classified documents that were referenced in Hunter Biden’s emails. The notes they found at this residence may have personal notes from classified information. They really should have a better way of tracking this stuff and keeping it secure.",
">\n\nit's not as bad though",
">\n\nStop trying to draw a parallel between the two.",
">\n\nKeep going with the facts. One opened his door to get searched, the other lied and spread conspiracy theories. Draw a parallel with Mike Pence too, who swore he didn’t have documents while hammering Biden.",
">\n\nWhy hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism."
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"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say...",
">\n\nDude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point",
">\n\nGood then.",
">\n\nJoe Biden takes classified documents very seriously. He also happens to take them places and forget about them. A lot.",
">\n\nExcept none were found? And he didn’t take them anywhere by any evidence so far?",
">\n\nWhat do you mean they haven't found any? Not in Rehoboth, maybe, but they have found them in multiple places so far including his garage.",
">\n\nThere’s zero evidence so far that he personally took them or forgot about them since he probably didn’t ever know they were there in the first place. \nAnd the “multiple” you said was two, the only two. And we’re kinda done at this point. Yes I meant none today.\nHe notified them, handed them back. The story is basically over.",
">\n\nWho do you think put them in his garage? Is he not responsible for them when they are in his care?",
">\n\nNot even in the same ballpark as Trump's criminality.",
">\n\nDear GOP House: Impeach him so when trump is indicted you all STFU",
">\n\ncan anyone one smarter than me explain why they're allowed to have top secret/confidential documents at home without having to like I don't know....sign them out and return them so there's an audit trail? Seems like a pretty large oversight.",
">\n\nI think they do \"sign them out\". But POTUS and VPOTUS are special positions in the US govt. They are never not on duty. Imagine the president is home in Delaware for a weekend and he can't make a decision because some documents are back in DC? That's not acceptable. So I think some leeway is given to holders of those 2 offices.",
">\n\nThey found nothing already",
">\n\nNothing was found.",
">\n\nSo, when are Trump’s properties going to be searched? Oh yeah…right",
">\n\nI'm less concerned with how many documents Biden has and how many homes he can buy as a public servant. America is so messed up",
">\n\nI'm glad they didn't find any more documents. However, maybe this is just me but it's kinda weird that they searched the home of a sitting president. Because I'm old enough to remember when the DOJ wouldn't even ask Trump for the time of day much less subject his home to a search by the FBI. And here they just casually search Biden's home. Meanwhile those on the Right will still not be satisfied. Merrick Garland has done everything short of slapping handcuffs on Biden and it will not be good enough.",
">\n\nThe controversy isn’t over. I saw a report that said there maybe some information contained in classified documents that were referenced in Hunter Biden’s emails. The notes they found at this residence may have personal notes from classified information. They really should have a better way of tracking this stuff and keeping it secure.",
">\n\nit's not as bad though",
">\n\nStop trying to draw a parallel between the two.",
">\n\nKeep going with the facts. One opened his door to get searched, the other lied and spread conspiracy theories. Draw a parallel with Mike Pence too, who swore he didn’t have documents while hammering Biden.",
">\n\nWhy hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump"
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(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.
“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.
“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”
Reporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.
The FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.
The FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.
The FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.
Biden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23. | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say...",
">\n\nDude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point",
">\n\nGood then.",
">\n\nJoe Biden takes classified documents very seriously. He also happens to take them places and forget about them. A lot.",
">\n\nExcept none were found? And he didn’t take them anywhere by any evidence so far?",
">\n\nWhat do you mean they haven't found any? Not in Rehoboth, maybe, but they have found them in multiple places so far including his garage.",
">\n\nThere’s zero evidence so far that he personally took them or forgot about them since he probably didn’t ever know they were there in the first place. \nAnd the “multiple” you said was two, the only two. And we’re kinda done at this point. Yes I meant none today.\nHe notified them, handed them back. The story is basically over.",
">\n\nWho do you think put them in his garage? Is he not responsible for them when they are in his care?",
">\n\nNot even in the same ballpark as Trump's criminality.",
">\n\nDear GOP House: Impeach him so when trump is indicted you all STFU",
">\n\ncan anyone one smarter than me explain why they're allowed to have top secret/confidential documents at home without having to like I don't know....sign them out and return them so there's an audit trail? Seems like a pretty large oversight.",
">\n\nI think they do \"sign them out\". But POTUS and VPOTUS are special positions in the US govt. They are never not on duty. Imagine the president is home in Delaware for a weekend and he can't make a decision because some documents are back in DC? That's not acceptable. So I think some leeway is given to holders of those 2 offices.",
">\n\nThey found nothing already",
">\n\nNothing was found.",
">\n\nSo, when are Trump’s properties going to be searched? Oh yeah…right",
">\n\nI'm less concerned with how many documents Biden has and how many homes he can buy as a public servant. America is so messed up",
">\n\nI'm glad they didn't find any more documents. However, maybe this is just me but it's kinda weird that they searched the home of a sitting president. Because I'm old enough to remember when the DOJ wouldn't even ask Trump for the time of day much less subject his home to a search by the FBI. And here they just casually search Biden's home. Meanwhile those on the Right will still not be satisfied. Merrick Garland has done everything short of slapping handcuffs on Biden and it will not be good enough.",
">\n\nThe controversy isn’t over. I saw a report that said there maybe some information contained in classified documents that were referenced in Hunter Biden’s emails. The notes they found at this residence may have personal notes from classified information. They really should have a better way of tracking this stuff and keeping it secure.",
">\n\nit's not as bad though",
">\n\nStop trying to draw a parallel between the two.",
">\n\nKeep going with the facts. One opened his door to get searched, the other lied and spread conspiracy theories. Draw a parallel with Mike Pence too, who swore he didn’t have documents while hammering Biden.",
">\n\nWhy hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair."
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Why are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous. | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say...",
">\n\nDude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point",
">\n\nGood then.",
">\n\nJoe Biden takes classified documents very seriously. He also happens to take them places and forget about them. A lot.",
">\n\nExcept none were found? And he didn’t take them anywhere by any evidence so far?",
">\n\nWhat do you mean they haven't found any? Not in Rehoboth, maybe, but they have found them in multiple places so far including his garage.",
">\n\nThere’s zero evidence so far that he personally took them or forgot about them since he probably didn’t ever know they were there in the first place. \nAnd the “multiple” you said was two, the only two. And we’re kinda done at this point. Yes I meant none today.\nHe notified them, handed them back. The story is basically over.",
">\n\nWho do you think put them in his garage? Is he not responsible for them when they are in his care?",
">\n\nNot even in the same ballpark as Trump's criminality.",
">\n\nDear GOP House: Impeach him so when trump is indicted you all STFU",
">\n\ncan anyone one smarter than me explain why they're allowed to have top secret/confidential documents at home without having to like I don't know....sign them out and return them so there's an audit trail? Seems like a pretty large oversight.",
">\n\nI think they do \"sign them out\". But POTUS and VPOTUS are special positions in the US govt. They are never not on duty. Imagine the president is home in Delaware for a weekend and he can't make a decision because some documents are back in DC? That's not acceptable. So I think some leeway is given to holders of those 2 offices.",
">\n\nThey found nothing already",
">\n\nNothing was found.",
">\n\nSo, when are Trump’s properties going to be searched? Oh yeah…right",
">\n\nI'm less concerned with how many documents Biden has and how many homes he can buy as a public servant. America is so messed up",
">\n\nI'm glad they didn't find any more documents. However, maybe this is just me but it's kinda weird that they searched the home of a sitting president. Because I'm old enough to remember when the DOJ wouldn't even ask Trump for the time of day much less subject his home to a search by the FBI. And here they just casually search Biden's home. Meanwhile those on the Right will still not be satisfied. Merrick Garland has done everything short of slapping handcuffs on Biden and it will not be good enough.",
">\n\nThe controversy isn’t over. I saw a report that said there maybe some information contained in classified documents that were referenced in Hunter Biden’s emails. The notes they found at this residence may have personal notes from classified information. They really should have a better way of tracking this stuff and keeping it secure.",
">\n\nit's not as bad though",
">\n\nStop trying to draw a parallel between the two.",
">\n\nKeep going with the facts. One opened his door to get searched, the other lied and spread conspiracy theories. Draw a parallel with Mike Pence too, who swore he didn’t have documents while hammering Biden.",
">\n\nWhy hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23."
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"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say...",
">\n\nDude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point",
">\n\nGood then.",
">\n\nJoe Biden takes classified documents very seriously. He also happens to take them places and forget about them. A lot.",
">\n\nExcept none were found? And he didn’t take them anywhere by any evidence so far?",
">\n\nWhat do you mean they haven't found any? Not in Rehoboth, maybe, but they have found them in multiple places so far including his garage.",
">\n\nThere’s zero evidence so far that he personally took them or forgot about them since he probably didn’t ever know they were there in the first place. \nAnd the “multiple” you said was two, the only two. And we’re kinda done at this point. Yes I meant none today.\nHe notified them, handed them back. The story is basically over.",
">\n\nWho do you think put them in his garage? Is he not responsible for them when they are in his care?",
">\n\nNot even in the same ballpark as Trump's criminality.",
">\n\nDear GOP House: Impeach him so when trump is indicted you all STFU",
">\n\ncan anyone one smarter than me explain why they're allowed to have top secret/confidential documents at home without having to like I don't know....sign them out and return them so there's an audit trail? Seems like a pretty large oversight.",
">\n\nI think they do \"sign them out\". But POTUS and VPOTUS are special positions in the US govt. They are never not on duty. Imagine the president is home in Delaware for a weekend and he can't make a decision because some documents are back in DC? That's not acceptable. So I think some leeway is given to holders of those 2 offices.",
">\n\nThey found nothing already",
">\n\nNothing was found.",
">\n\nSo, when are Trump’s properties going to be searched? Oh yeah…right",
">\n\nI'm less concerned with how many documents Biden has and how many homes he can buy as a public servant. America is so messed up",
">\n\nI'm glad they didn't find any more documents. However, maybe this is just me but it's kinda weird that they searched the home of a sitting president. Because I'm old enough to remember when the DOJ wouldn't even ask Trump for the time of day much less subject his home to a search by the FBI. And here they just casually search Biden's home. Meanwhile those on the Right will still not be satisfied. Merrick Garland has done everything short of slapping handcuffs on Biden and it will not be good enough.",
">\n\nThe controversy isn’t over. I saw a report that said there maybe some information contained in classified documents that were referenced in Hunter Biden’s emails. The notes they found at this residence may have personal notes from classified information. They really should have a better way of tracking this stuff and keeping it secure.",
">\n\nit's not as bad though",
">\n\nStop trying to draw a parallel between the two.",
">\n\nKeep going with the facts. One opened his door to get searched, the other lied and spread conspiracy theories. Draw a parallel with Mike Pence too, who swore he didn’t have documents while hammering Biden.",
">\n\nWhy hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous."
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Where does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided? | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say...",
">\n\nDude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point",
">\n\nGood then.",
">\n\nJoe Biden takes classified documents very seriously. He also happens to take them places and forget about them. A lot.",
">\n\nExcept none were found? And he didn’t take them anywhere by any evidence so far?",
">\n\nWhat do you mean they haven't found any? Not in Rehoboth, maybe, but they have found them in multiple places so far including his garage.",
">\n\nThere’s zero evidence so far that he personally took them or forgot about them since he probably didn’t ever know they were there in the first place. \nAnd the “multiple” you said was two, the only two. And we’re kinda done at this point. Yes I meant none today.\nHe notified them, handed them back. The story is basically over.",
">\n\nWho do you think put them in his garage? Is he not responsible for them when they are in his care?",
">\n\nNot even in the same ballpark as Trump's criminality.",
">\n\nDear GOP House: Impeach him so when trump is indicted you all STFU",
">\n\ncan anyone one smarter than me explain why they're allowed to have top secret/confidential documents at home without having to like I don't know....sign them out and return them so there's an audit trail? Seems like a pretty large oversight.",
">\n\nI think they do \"sign them out\". But POTUS and VPOTUS are special positions in the US govt. They are never not on duty. Imagine the president is home in Delaware for a weekend and he can't make a decision because some documents are back in DC? That's not acceptable. So I think some leeway is given to holders of those 2 offices.",
">\n\nThey found nothing already",
">\n\nNothing was found.",
">\n\nSo, when are Trump’s properties going to be searched? Oh yeah…right",
">\n\nI'm less concerned with how many documents Biden has and how many homes he can buy as a public servant. America is so messed up",
">\n\nI'm glad they didn't find any more documents. However, maybe this is just me but it's kinda weird that they searched the home of a sitting president. Because I'm old enough to remember when the DOJ wouldn't even ask Trump for the time of day much less subject his home to a search by the FBI. And here they just casually search Biden's home. Meanwhile those on the Right will still not be satisfied. Merrick Garland has done everything short of slapping handcuffs on Biden and it will not be good enough.",
">\n\nThe controversy isn’t over. I saw a report that said there maybe some information contained in classified documents that were referenced in Hunter Biden’s emails. The notes they found at this residence may have personal notes from classified information. They really should have a better way of tracking this stuff and keeping it secure.",
">\n\nit's not as bad though",
">\n\nStop trying to draw a parallel between the two.",
">\n\nKeep going with the facts. One opened his door to get searched, the other lied and spread conspiracy theories. Draw a parallel with Mike Pence too, who swore he didn’t have documents while hammering Biden.",
">\n\nWhy hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them."
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"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say...",
">\n\nDude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point",
">\n\nGood then.",
">\n\nJoe Biden takes classified documents very seriously. He also happens to take them places and forget about them. A lot.",
">\n\nExcept none were found? And he didn’t take them anywhere by any evidence so far?",
">\n\nWhat do you mean they haven't found any? Not in Rehoboth, maybe, but they have found them in multiple places so far including his garage.",
">\n\nThere’s zero evidence so far that he personally took them or forgot about them since he probably didn’t ever know they were there in the first place. \nAnd the “multiple” you said was two, the only two. And we’re kinda done at this point. Yes I meant none today.\nHe notified them, handed them back. The story is basically over.",
">\n\nWho do you think put them in his garage? Is he not responsible for them when they are in his care?",
">\n\nNot even in the same ballpark as Trump's criminality.",
">\n\nDear GOP House: Impeach him so when trump is indicted you all STFU",
">\n\ncan anyone one smarter than me explain why they're allowed to have top secret/confidential documents at home without having to like I don't know....sign them out and return them so there's an audit trail? Seems like a pretty large oversight.",
">\n\nI think they do \"sign them out\". But POTUS and VPOTUS are special positions in the US govt. They are never not on duty. Imagine the president is home in Delaware for a weekend and he can't make a decision because some documents are back in DC? That's not acceptable. So I think some leeway is given to holders of those 2 offices.",
">\n\nThey found nothing already",
">\n\nNothing was found.",
">\n\nSo, when are Trump’s properties going to be searched? Oh yeah…right",
">\n\nI'm less concerned with how many documents Biden has and how many homes he can buy as a public servant. America is so messed up",
">\n\nI'm glad they didn't find any more documents. However, maybe this is just me but it's kinda weird that they searched the home of a sitting president. Because I'm old enough to remember when the DOJ wouldn't even ask Trump for the time of day much less subject his home to a search by the FBI. And here they just casually search Biden's home. Meanwhile those on the Right will still not be satisfied. Merrick Garland has done everything short of slapping handcuffs on Biden and it will not be good enough.",
">\n\nThe controversy isn’t over. I saw a report that said there maybe some information contained in classified documents that were referenced in Hunter Biden’s emails. The notes they found at this residence may have personal notes from classified information. They really should have a better way of tracking this stuff and keeping it secure.",
">\n\nit's not as bad though",
">\n\nStop trying to draw a parallel between the two.",
">\n\nKeep going with the facts. One opened his door to get searched, the other lied and spread conspiracy theories. Draw a parallel with Mike Pence too, who swore he didn’t have documents while hammering Biden.",
">\n\nWhy hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?"
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"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say...",
">\n\nDude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point",
">\n\nGood then.",
">\n\nJoe Biden takes classified documents very seriously. He also happens to take them places and forget about them. A lot.",
">\n\nExcept none were found? And he didn’t take them anywhere by any evidence so far?",
">\n\nWhat do you mean they haven't found any? Not in Rehoboth, maybe, but they have found them in multiple places so far including his garage.",
">\n\nThere’s zero evidence so far that he personally took them or forgot about them since he probably didn’t ever know they were there in the first place. \nAnd the “multiple” you said was two, the only two. And we’re kinda done at this point. Yes I meant none today.\nHe notified them, handed them back. The story is basically over.",
">\n\nWho do you think put them in his garage? Is he not responsible for them when they are in his care?",
">\n\nNot even in the same ballpark as Trump's criminality.",
">\n\nDear GOP House: Impeach him so when trump is indicted you all STFU",
">\n\ncan anyone one smarter than me explain why they're allowed to have top secret/confidential documents at home without having to like I don't know....sign them out and return them so there's an audit trail? Seems like a pretty large oversight.",
">\n\nI think they do \"sign them out\". But POTUS and VPOTUS are special positions in the US govt. They are never not on duty. Imagine the president is home in Delaware for a weekend and he can't make a decision because some documents are back in DC? That's not acceptable. So I think some leeway is given to holders of those 2 offices.",
">\n\nThey found nothing already",
">\n\nNothing was found.",
">\n\nSo, when are Trump’s properties going to be searched? Oh yeah…right",
">\n\nI'm less concerned with how many documents Biden has and how many homes he can buy as a public servant. America is so messed up",
">\n\nI'm glad they didn't find any more documents. However, maybe this is just me but it's kinda weird that they searched the home of a sitting president. Because I'm old enough to remember when the DOJ wouldn't even ask Trump for the time of day much less subject his home to a search by the FBI. And here they just casually search Biden's home. Meanwhile those on the Right will still not be satisfied. Merrick Garland has done everything short of slapping handcuffs on Biden and it will not be good enough.",
">\n\nThe controversy isn’t over. I saw a report that said there maybe some information contained in classified documents that were referenced in Hunter Biden’s emails. The notes they found at this residence may have personal notes from classified information. They really should have a better way of tracking this stuff and keeping it secure.",
">\n\nit's not as bad though",
">\n\nStop trying to draw a parallel between the two.",
">\n\nKeep going with the facts. One opened his door to get searched, the other lied and spread conspiracy theories. Draw a parallel with Mike Pence too, who swore he didn’t have documents while hammering Biden.",
">\n\nWhy hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement."
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In order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in.
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"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say...",
">\n\nDude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point",
">\n\nGood then.",
">\n\nJoe Biden takes classified documents very seriously. He also happens to take them places and forget about them. A lot.",
">\n\nExcept none were found? And he didn’t take them anywhere by any evidence so far?",
">\n\nWhat do you mean they haven't found any? Not in Rehoboth, maybe, but they have found them in multiple places so far including his garage.",
">\n\nThere’s zero evidence so far that he personally took them or forgot about them since he probably didn’t ever know they were there in the first place. \nAnd the “multiple” you said was two, the only two. And we’re kinda done at this point. Yes I meant none today.\nHe notified them, handed them back. The story is basically over.",
">\n\nWho do you think put them in his garage? Is he not responsible for them when they are in his care?",
">\n\nNot even in the same ballpark as Trump's criminality.",
">\n\nDear GOP House: Impeach him so when trump is indicted you all STFU",
">\n\ncan anyone one smarter than me explain why they're allowed to have top secret/confidential documents at home without having to like I don't know....sign them out and return them so there's an audit trail? Seems like a pretty large oversight.",
">\n\nI think they do \"sign them out\". But POTUS and VPOTUS are special positions in the US govt. They are never not on duty. Imagine the president is home in Delaware for a weekend and he can't make a decision because some documents are back in DC? That's not acceptable. So I think some leeway is given to holders of those 2 offices.",
">\n\nThey found nothing already",
">\n\nNothing was found.",
">\n\nSo, when are Trump’s properties going to be searched? Oh yeah…right",
">\n\nI'm less concerned with how many documents Biden has and how many homes he can buy as a public servant. America is so messed up",
">\n\nI'm glad they didn't find any more documents. However, maybe this is just me but it's kinda weird that they searched the home of a sitting president. Because I'm old enough to remember when the DOJ wouldn't even ask Trump for the time of day much less subject his home to a search by the FBI. And here they just casually search Biden's home. Meanwhile those on the Right will still not be satisfied. Merrick Garland has done everything short of slapping handcuffs on Biden and it will not be good enough.",
">\n\nThe controversy isn’t over. I saw a report that said there maybe some information contained in classified documents that were referenced in Hunter Biden’s emails. The notes they found at this residence may have personal notes from classified information. They really should have a better way of tracking this stuff and keeping it secure.",
">\n\nit's not as bad though",
">\n\nStop trying to draw a parallel between the two.",
">\n\nKeep going with the facts. One opened his door to get searched, the other lied and spread conspiracy theories. Draw a parallel with Mike Pence too, who swore he didn’t have documents while hammering Biden.",
">\n\nWhy hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating."
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Gotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is. | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say...",
">\n\nDude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point",
">\n\nGood then.",
">\n\nJoe Biden takes classified documents very seriously. He also happens to take them places and forget about them. A lot.",
">\n\nExcept none were found? And he didn’t take them anywhere by any evidence so far?",
">\n\nWhat do you mean they haven't found any? Not in Rehoboth, maybe, but they have found them in multiple places so far including his garage.",
">\n\nThere’s zero evidence so far that he personally took them or forgot about them since he probably didn’t ever know they were there in the first place. \nAnd the “multiple” you said was two, the only two. And we’re kinda done at this point. Yes I meant none today.\nHe notified them, handed them back. The story is basically over.",
">\n\nWho do you think put them in his garage? Is he not responsible for them when they are in his care?",
">\n\nNot even in the same ballpark as Trump's criminality.",
">\n\nDear GOP House: Impeach him so when trump is indicted you all STFU",
">\n\ncan anyone one smarter than me explain why they're allowed to have top secret/confidential documents at home without having to like I don't know....sign them out and return them so there's an audit trail? Seems like a pretty large oversight.",
">\n\nI think they do \"sign them out\". But POTUS and VPOTUS are special positions in the US govt. They are never not on duty. Imagine the president is home in Delaware for a weekend and he can't make a decision because some documents are back in DC? That's not acceptable. So I think some leeway is given to holders of those 2 offices.",
">\n\nThey found nothing already",
">\n\nNothing was found.",
">\n\nSo, when are Trump’s properties going to be searched? Oh yeah…right",
">\n\nI'm less concerned with how many documents Biden has and how many homes he can buy as a public servant. America is so messed up",
">\n\nI'm glad they didn't find any more documents. However, maybe this is just me but it's kinda weird that they searched the home of a sitting president. Because I'm old enough to remember when the DOJ wouldn't even ask Trump for the time of day much less subject his home to a search by the FBI. And here they just casually search Biden's home. Meanwhile those on the Right will still not be satisfied. Merrick Garland has done everything short of slapping handcuffs on Biden and it will not be good enough.",
">\n\nThe controversy isn’t over. I saw a report that said there maybe some information contained in classified documents that were referenced in Hunter Biden’s emails. The notes they found at this residence may have personal notes from classified information. They really should have a better way of tracking this stuff and keeping it secure.",
">\n\nit's not as bad though",
">\n\nStop trying to draw a parallel between the two.",
">\n\nKeep going with the facts. One opened his door to get searched, the other lied and spread conspiracy theories. Draw a parallel with Mike Pence too, who swore he didn’t have documents while hammering Biden.",
">\n\nWhy hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in."
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"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say...",
">\n\nDude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point",
">\n\nGood then.",
">\n\nJoe Biden takes classified documents very seriously. He also happens to take them places and forget about them. A lot.",
">\n\nExcept none were found? And he didn’t take them anywhere by any evidence so far?",
">\n\nWhat do you mean they haven't found any? Not in Rehoboth, maybe, but they have found them in multiple places so far including his garage.",
">\n\nThere’s zero evidence so far that he personally took them or forgot about them since he probably didn’t ever know they were there in the first place. \nAnd the “multiple” you said was two, the only two. And we’re kinda done at this point. Yes I meant none today.\nHe notified them, handed them back. The story is basically over.",
">\n\nWho do you think put them in his garage? Is he not responsible for them when they are in his care?",
">\n\nNot even in the same ballpark as Trump's criminality.",
">\n\nDear GOP House: Impeach him so when trump is indicted you all STFU",
">\n\ncan anyone one smarter than me explain why they're allowed to have top secret/confidential documents at home without having to like I don't know....sign them out and return them so there's an audit trail? Seems like a pretty large oversight.",
">\n\nI think they do \"sign them out\". But POTUS and VPOTUS are special positions in the US govt. They are never not on duty. Imagine the president is home in Delaware for a weekend and he can't make a decision because some documents are back in DC? That's not acceptable. So I think some leeway is given to holders of those 2 offices.",
">\n\nThey found nothing already",
">\n\nNothing was found.",
">\n\nSo, when are Trump’s properties going to be searched? Oh yeah…right",
">\n\nI'm less concerned with how many documents Biden has and how many homes he can buy as a public servant. America is so messed up",
">\n\nI'm glad they didn't find any more documents. However, maybe this is just me but it's kinda weird that they searched the home of a sitting president. Because I'm old enough to remember when the DOJ wouldn't even ask Trump for the time of day much less subject his home to a search by the FBI. And here they just casually search Biden's home. Meanwhile those on the Right will still not be satisfied. Merrick Garland has done everything short of slapping handcuffs on Biden and it will not be good enough.",
">\n\nThe controversy isn’t over. I saw a report that said there maybe some information contained in classified documents that were referenced in Hunter Biden’s emails. The notes they found at this residence may have personal notes from classified information. They really should have a better way of tracking this stuff and keeping it secure.",
">\n\nit's not as bad though",
">\n\nStop trying to draw a parallel between the two.",
">\n\nKeep going with the facts. One opened his door to get searched, the other lied and spread conspiracy theories. Draw a parallel with Mike Pence too, who swore he didn’t have documents while hammering Biden.",
">\n\nWhy hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is."
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Not raided.
Raided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.
Searching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.
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"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say...",
">\n\nDude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point",
">\n\nGood then.",
">\n\nJoe Biden takes classified documents very seriously. He also happens to take them places and forget about them. A lot.",
">\n\nExcept none were found? And he didn’t take them anywhere by any evidence so far?",
">\n\nWhat do you mean they haven't found any? Not in Rehoboth, maybe, but they have found them in multiple places so far including his garage.",
">\n\nThere’s zero evidence so far that he personally took them or forgot about them since he probably didn’t ever know they were there in the first place. \nAnd the “multiple” you said was two, the only two. And we’re kinda done at this point. Yes I meant none today.\nHe notified them, handed them back. The story is basically over.",
">\n\nWho do you think put them in his garage? Is he not responsible for them when they are in his care?",
">\n\nNot even in the same ballpark as Trump's criminality.",
">\n\nDear GOP House: Impeach him so when trump is indicted you all STFU",
">\n\ncan anyone one smarter than me explain why they're allowed to have top secret/confidential documents at home without having to like I don't know....sign them out and return them so there's an audit trail? Seems like a pretty large oversight.",
">\n\nI think they do \"sign them out\". But POTUS and VPOTUS are special positions in the US govt. They are never not on duty. Imagine the president is home in Delaware for a weekend and he can't make a decision because some documents are back in DC? That's not acceptable. So I think some leeway is given to holders of those 2 offices.",
">\n\nThey found nothing already",
">\n\nNothing was found.",
">\n\nSo, when are Trump’s properties going to be searched? Oh yeah…right",
">\n\nI'm less concerned with how many documents Biden has and how many homes he can buy as a public servant. America is so messed up",
">\n\nI'm glad they didn't find any more documents. However, maybe this is just me but it's kinda weird that they searched the home of a sitting president. Because I'm old enough to remember when the DOJ wouldn't even ask Trump for the time of day much less subject his home to a search by the FBI. And here they just casually search Biden's home. Meanwhile those on the Right will still not be satisfied. Merrick Garland has done everything short of slapping handcuffs on Biden and it will not be good enough.",
">\n\nThe controversy isn’t over. I saw a report that said there maybe some information contained in classified documents that were referenced in Hunter Biden’s emails. The notes they found at this residence may have personal notes from classified information. They really should have a better way of tracking this stuff and keeping it secure.",
">\n\nit's not as bad though",
">\n\nStop trying to draw a parallel between the two.",
">\n\nKeep going with the facts. One opened his door to get searched, the other lied and spread conspiracy theories. Draw a parallel with Mike Pence too, who swore he didn’t have documents while hammering Biden.",
">\n\nWhy hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day."
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How pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here. | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say...",
">\n\nDude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point",
">\n\nGood then.",
">\n\nJoe Biden takes classified documents very seriously. He also happens to take them places and forget about them. A lot.",
">\n\nExcept none were found? And he didn’t take them anywhere by any evidence so far?",
">\n\nWhat do you mean they haven't found any? Not in Rehoboth, maybe, but they have found them in multiple places so far including his garage.",
">\n\nThere’s zero evidence so far that he personally took them or forgot about them since he probably didn’t ever know they were there in the first place. \nAnd the “multiple” you said was two, the only two. And we’re kinda done at this point. Yes I meant none today.\nHe notified them, handed them back. The story is basically over.",
">\n\nWho do you think put them in his garage? Is he not responsible for them when they are in his care?",
">\n\nNot even in the same ballpark as Trump's criminality.",
">\n\nDear GOP House: Impeach him so when trump is indicted you all STFU",
">\n\ncan anyone one smarter than me explain why they're allowed to have top secret/confidential documents at home without having to like I don't know....sign them out and return them so there's an audit trail? Seems like a pretty large oversight.",
">\n\nI think they do \"sign them out\". But POTUS and VPOTUS are special positions in the US govt. They are never not on duty. Imagine the president is home in Delaware for a weekend and he can't make a decision because some documents are back in DC? That's not acceptable. So I think some leeway is given to holders of those 2 offices.",
">\n\nThey found nothing already",
">\n\nNothing was found.",
">\n\nSo, when are Trump’s properties going to be searched? Oh yeah…right",
">\n\nI'm less concerned with how many documents Biden has and how many homes he can buy as a public servant. America is so messed up",
">\n\nI'm glad they didn't find any more documents. However, maybe this is just me but it's kinda weird that they searched the home of a sitting president. Because I'm old enough to remember when the DOJ wouldn't even ask Trump for the time of day much less subject his home to a search by the FBI. And here they just casually search Biden's home. Meanwhile those on the Right will still not be satisfied. Merrick Garland has done everything short of slapping handcuffs on Biden and it will not be good enough.",
">\n\nThe controversy isn’t over. I saw a report that said there maybe some information contained in classified documents that were referenced in Hunter Biden’s emails. The notes they found at this residence may have personal notes from classified information. They really should have a better way of tracking this stuff and keeping it secure.",
">\n\nit's not as bad though",
">\n\nStop trying to draw a parallel between the two.",
">\n\nKeep going with the facts. One opened his door to get searched, the other lied and spread conspiracy theories. Draw a parallel with Mike Pence too, who swore he didn’t have documents while hammering Biden.",
">\n\nWhy hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things."
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A “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating. | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say...",
">\n\nDude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point",
">\n\nGood then.",
">\n\nJoe Biden takes classified documents very seriously. He also happens to take them places and forget about them. A lot.",
">\n\nExcept none were found? And he didn’t take them anywhere by any evidence so far?",
">\n\nWhat do you mean they haven't found any? Not in Rehoboth, maybe, but they have found them in multiple places so far including his garage.",
">\n\nThere’s zero evidence so far that he personally took them or forgot about them since he probably didn’t ever know they were there in the first place. \nAnd the “multiple” you said was two, the only two. And we’re kinda done at this point. Yes I meant none today.\nHe notified them, handed them back. The story is basically over.",
">\n\nWho do you think put them in his garage? Is he not responsible for them when they are in his care?",
">\n\nNot even in the same ballpark as Trump's criminality.",
">\n\nDear GOP House: Impeach him so when trump is indicted you all STFU",
">\n\ncan anyone one smarter than me explain why they're allowed to have top secret/confidential documents at home without having to like I don't know....sign them out and return them so there's an audit trail? Seems like a pretty large oversight.",
">\n\nI think they do \"sign them out\". But POTUS and VPOTUS are special positions in the US govt. They are never not on duty. Imagine the president is home in Delaware for a weekend and he can't make a decision because some documents are back in DC? That's not acceptable. So I think some leeway is given to holders of those 2 offices.",
">\n\nThey found nothing already",
">\n\nNothing was found.",
">\n\nSo, when are Trump’s properties going to be searched? Oh yeah…right",
">\n\nI'm less concerned with how many documents Biden has and how many homes he can buy as a public servant. America is so messed up",
">\n\nI'm glad they didn't find any more documents. However, maybe this is just me but it's kinda weird that they searched the home of a sitting president. Because I'm old enough to remember when the DOJ wouldn't even ask Trump for the time of day much less subject his home to a search by the FBI. And here they just casually search Biden's home. Meanwhile those on the Right will still not be satisfied. Merrick Garland has done everything short of slapping handcuffs on Biden and it will not be good enough.",
">\n\nThe controversy isn’t over. I saw a report that said there maybe some information contained in classified documents that were referenced in Hunter Biden’s emails. The notes they found at this residence may have personal notes from classified information. They really should have a better way of tracking this stuff and keeping it secure.",
">\n\nit's not as bad though",
">\n\nStop trying to draw a parallel between the two.",
">\n\nKeep going with the facts. One opened his door to get searched, the other lied and spread conspiracy theories. Draw a parallel with Mike Pence too, who swore he didn’t have documents while hammering Biden.",
">\n\nWhy hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here."
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Can we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.
A search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president. | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say...",
">\n\nDude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point",
">\n\nGood then.",
">\n\nJoe Biden takes classified documents very seriously. He also happens to take them places and forget about them. A lot.",
">\n\nExcept none were found? And he didn’t take them anywhere by any evidence so far?",
">\n\nWhat do you mean they haven't found any? Not in Rehoboth, maybe, but they have found them in multiple places so far including his garage.",
">\n\nThere’s zero evidence so far that he personally took them or forgot about them since he probably didn’t ever know they were there in the first place. \nAnd the “multiple” you said was two, the only two. And we’re kinda done at this point. Yes I meant none today.\nHe notified them, handed them back. The story is basically over.",
">\n\nWho do you think put them in his garage? Is he not responsible for them when they are in his care?",
">\n\nNot even in the same ballpark as Trump's criminality.",
">\n\nDear GOP House: Impeach him so when trump is indicted you all STFU",
">\n\ncan anyone one smarter than me explain why they're allowed to have top secret/confidential documents at home without having to like I don't know....sign them out and return them so there's an audit trail? Seems like a pretty large oversight.",
">\n\nI think they do \"sign them out\". But POTUS and VPOTUS are special positions in the US govt. They are never not on duty. Imagine the president is home in Delaware for a weekend and he can't make a decision because some documents are back in DC? That's not acceptable. So I think some leeway is given to holders of those 2 offices.",
">\n\nThey found nothing already",
">\n\nNothing was found.",
">\n\nSo, when are Trump’s properties going to be searched? Oh yeah…right",
">\n\nI'm less concerned with how many documents Biden has and how many homes he can buy as a public servant. America is so messed up",
">\n\nI'm glad they didn't find any more documents. However, maybe this is just me but it's kinda weird that they searched the home of a sitting president. Because I'm old enough to remember when the DOJ wouldn't even ask Trump for the time of day much less subject his home to a search by the FBI. And here they just casually search Biden's home. Meanwhile those on the Right will still not be satisfied. Merrick Garland has done everything short of slapping handcuffs on Biden and it will not be good enough.",
">\n\nThe controversy isn’t over. I saw a report that said there maybe some information contained in classified documents that were referenced in Hunter Biden’s emails. The notes they found at this residence may have personal notes from classified information. They really should have a better way of tracking this stuff and keeping it secure.",
">\n\nit's not as bad though",
">\n\nStop trying to draw a parallel between the two.",
">\n\nKeep going with the facts. One opened his door to get searched, the other lied and spread conspiracy theories. Draw a parallel with Mike Pence too, who swore he didn’t have documents while hammering Biden.",
">\n\nWhy hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating."
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"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say...",
">\n\nDude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point",
">\n\nGood then.",
">\n\nJoe Biden takes classified documents very seriously. He also happens to take them places and forget about them. A lot.",
">\n\nExcept none were found? And he didn’t take them anywhere by any evidence so far?",
">\n\nWhat do you mean they haven't found any? Not in Rehoboth, maybe, but they have found them in multiple places so far including his garage.",
">\n\nThere’s zero evidence so far that he personally took them or forgot about them since he probably didn’t ever know they were there in the first place. \nAnd the “multiple” you said was two, the only two. And we’re kinda done at this point. Yes I meant none today.\nHe notified them, handed them back. The story is basically over.",
">\n\nWho do you think put them in his garage? Is he not responsible for them when they are in his care?",
">\n\nNot even in the same ballpark as Trump's criminality.",
">\n\nDear GOP House: Impeach him so when trump is indicted you all STFU",
">\n\ncan anyone one smarter than me explain why they're allowed to have top secret/confidential documents at home without having to like I don't know....sign them out and return them so there's an audit trail? Seems like a pretty large oversight.",
">\n\nI think they do \"sign them out\". But POTUS and VPOTUS are special positions in the US govt. They are never not on duty. Imagine the president is home in Delaware for a weekend and he can't make a decision because some documents are back in DC? That's not acceptable. So I think some leeway is given to holders of those 2 offices.",
">\n\nThey found nothing already",
">\n\nNothing was found.",
">\n\nSo, when are Trump’s properties going to be searched? Oh yeah…right",
">\n\nI'm less concerned with how many documents Biden has and how many homes he can buy as a public servant. America is so messed up",
">\n\nI'm glad they didn't find any more documents. However, maybe this is just me but it's kinda weird that they searched the home of a sitting president. Because I'm old enough to remember when the DOJ wouldn't even ask Trump for the time of day much less subject his home to a search by the FBI. And here they just casually search Biden's home. Meanwhile those on the Right will still not be satisfied. Merrick Garland has done everything short of slapping handcuffs on Biden and it will not be good enough.",
">\n\nThe controversy isn’t over. I saw a report that said there maybe some information contained in classified documents that were referenced in Hunter Biden’s emails. The notes they found at this residence may have personal notes from classified information. They really should have a better way of tracking this stuff and keeping it secure.",
">\n\nit's not as bad though",
">\n\nStop trying to draw a parallel between the two.",
">\n\nKeep going with the facts. One opened his door to get searched, the other lied and spread conspiracy theories. Draw a parallel with Mike Pence too, who swore he didn’t have documents while hammering Biden.",
">\n\nWhy hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president."
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If police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise. | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say...",
">\n\nDude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point",
">\n\nGood then.",
">\n\nJoe Biden takes classified documents very seriously. He also happens to take them places and forget about them. A lot.",
">\n\nExcept none were found? And he didn’t take them anywhere by any evidence so far?",
">\n\nWhat do you mean they haven't found any? Not in Rehoboth, maybe, but they have found them in multiple places so far including his garage.",
">\n\nThere’s zero evidence so far that he personally took them or forgot about them since he probably didn’t ever know they were there in the first place. \nAnd the “multiple” you said was two, the only two. And we’re kinda done at this point. Yes I meant none today.\nHe notified them, handed them back. The story is basically over.",
">\n\nWho do you think put them in his garage? Is he not responsible for them when they are in his care?",
">\n\nNot even in the same ballpark as Trump's criminality.",
">\n\nDear GOP House: Impeach him so when trump is indicted you all STFU",
">\n\ncan anyone one smarter than me explain why they're allowed to have top secret/confidential documents at home without having to like I don't know....sign them out and return them so there's an audit trail? Seems like a pretty large oversight.",
">\n\nI think they do \"sign them out\". But POTUS and VPOTUS are special positions in the US govt. They are never not on duty. Imagine the president is home in Delaware for a weekend and he can't make a decision because some documents are back in DC? That's not acceptable. So I think some leeway is given to holders of those 2 offices.",
">\n\nThey found nothing already",
">\n\nNothing was found.",
">\n\nSo, when are Trump’s properties going to be searched? Oh yeah…right",
">\n\nI'm less concerned with how many documents Biden has and how many homes he can buy as a public servant. America is so messed up",
">\n\nI'm glad they didn't find any more documents. However, maybe this is just me but it's kinda weird that they searched the home of a sitting president. Because I'm old enough to remember when the DOJ wouldn't even ask Trump for the time of day much less subject his home to a search by the FBI. And here they just casually search Biden's home. Meanwhile those on the Right will still not be satisfied. Merrick Garland has done everything short of slapping handcuffs on Biden and it will not be good enough.",
">\n\nThe controversy isn’t over. I saw a report that said there maybe some information contained in classified documents that were referenced in Hunter Biden’s emails. The notes they found at this residence may have personal notes from classified information. They really should have a better way of tracking this stuff and keeping it secure.",
">\n\nit's not as bad though",
">\n\nStop trying to draw a parallel between the two.",
">\n\nKeep going with the facts. One opened his door to get searched, the other lied and spread conspiracy theories. Draw a parallel with Mike Pence too, who swore he didn’t have documents while hammering Biden.",
">\n\nWhy hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it."
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No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.
Oh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:
“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement. | [
"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say...",
">\n\nDude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point",
">\n\nGood then.",
">\n\nJoe Biden takes classified documents very seriously. He also happens to take them places and forget about them. A lot.",
">\n\nExcept none were found? And he didn’t take them anywhere by any evidence so far?",
">\n\nWhat do you mean they haven't found any? Not in Rehoboth, maybe, but they have found them in multiple places so far including his garage.",
">\n\nThere’s zero evidence so far that he personally took them or forgot about them since he probably didn’t ever know they were there in the first place. \nAnd the “multiple” you said was two, the only two. And we’re kinda done at this point. Yes I meant none today.\nHe notified them, handed them back. The story is basically over.",
">\n\nWho do you think put them in his garage? Is he not responsible for them when they are in his care?",
">\n\nNot even in the same ballpark as Trump's criminality.",
">\n\nDear GOP House: Impeach him so when trump is indicted you all STFU",
">\n\ncan anyone one smarter than me explain why they're allowed to have top secret/confidential documents at home without having to like I don't know....sign them out and return them so there's an audit trail? Seems like a pretty large oversight.",
">\n\nI think they do \"sign them out\". But POTUS and VPOTUS are special positions in the US govt. They are never not on duty. Imagine the president is home in Delaware for a weekend and he can't make a decision because some documents are back in DC? That's not acceptable. So I think some leeway is given to holders of those 2 offices.",
">\n\nThey found nothing already",
">\n\nNothing was found.",
">\n\nSo, when are Trump’s properties going to be searched? Oh yeah…right",
">\n\nI'm less concerned with how many documents Biden has and how many homes he can buy as a public servant. America is so messed up",
">\n\nI'm glad they didn't find any more documents. However, maybe this is just me but it's kinda weird that they searched the home of a sitting president. Because I'm old enough to remember when the DOJ wouldn't even ask Trump for the time of day much less subject his home to a search by the FBI. And here they just casually search Biden's home. Meanwhile those on the Right will still not be satisfied. Merrick Garland has done everything short of slapping handcuffs on Biden and it will not be good enough.",
">\n\nThe controversy isn’t over. I saw a report that said there maybe some information contained in classified documents that were referenced in Hunter Biden’s emails. The notes they found at this residence may have personal notes from classified information. They really should have a better way of tracking this stuff and keeping it secure.",
">\n\nit's not as bad though",
">\n\nStop trying to draw a parallel between the two.",
">\n\nKeep going with the facts. One opened his door to get searched, the other lied and spread conspiracy theories. Draw a parallel with Mike Pence too, who swore he didn’t have documents while hammering Biden.",
">\n\nWhy hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise."
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"Why hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nIt’s good odds there are more than a few documents in the casket of Trump’s ex-wife buried on his golf course.",
">\n\nCool, now go dig up that fake grave in New Jersey.",
">\n\nI bet Fox will start demanding the FBI search Hunter's property next",
">\n\nRaIdiNg. They aren't searching his home, they're RAIDING it?!",
">\n\nThis is how Garland will scuttle the Trump stolen docs case. Just another case of “ooopsie! All presidents forget top secret docs.”\nYes Biden shouldn’t have docs, but I am going to wager only Biden suffers consequences, if any… despite Trump stealing BOXES of docs.",
">\n\nwe in the biz call this \"cope\"",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\n\nI wonder what they would do if Biden's team had resisted. How long before they raided?",
">\n\nWe all know the answer. It would have taken no time at all.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious to hear Biden say \" This is the biggest hugest, biggest ever in the history of the world witch hunt\". Then wait to hear Trump's response.",
">\n\nIt’s really clear CNN wants so badly to make this their scandal du jour this month",
">\n\nCool. Search all of Biden's and Trump's homes. Find out which documents are missing. \nI'm willing to bet it's only Trump who has empty folders since Biden's cooperation has been forthright and completely voluntary, and Trump has lied, obstructed justice, and refused to return missing documents.\nLook into Kushner's and Mnuchin's 3.5 billion from the Saudis. Look into why \"an alarming number\" of US intelligence operatives started dying immediately after Trump left office. \nProsecute Trump (and Biden, if it turns out he sold intelligence as Trump surely has- but we know, of course, he didn't) to the fullest extent of the law.",
">\n\nBad bot, you should at least change the wording before posting the same comment 10 times in the span of an hour",
">\n\nDon't need to when you clowns keep posting the same horseshit equivocations.",
">\n\nThis is a guy with nothing to hide.",
">\n\nGuess we'll see if they find confidential information. If they do find material in a similar manner as Trump, then my views will be as they have been for Trump. \nThis isn't football. It's not a team sport. You do wrong, i'm gonna call you on that shit.",
">\n\n\nRehoboth Beach\n\nwhat in the Westworld? /s\ninteresting biblical name I'd never heard of",
">\n\nWhy is the front page littered with multiple \"Stormy Daniels\" stories while every article mentioning the Biden raid is relegated to \"controversial\"?",
">\n\nIt’s not a raid.",
">\n\nCall it a \"planned search\" if you like, but that still doesn't explain nor answer my question. Is this not more relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" or is it only \"controversial\" because it involves Biden?",
">\n\nYes, “planned search” is what the article called it. Feel free to edit your original post for accuracy.",
">\n\nSo you're going to continue deflecting & refuse to explain why this is less relevant than \"Stormy Daniels\" ? The fact that the sitting President of the United States has now had multiple properties searched by the FBI, with every search turning up classified materials he is not & was not authorized to have is an astronomically bigger story than anything involving a Porn Star & you know it. Carry on.",
">\n\nSo you aren’t going to correct your false claim that this was a raid? I assume you wouldn’t want to accidentally spread misinformation.",
">\n\nI would be more than happy to entertain your obsession with semantics after you explain why this story is less relevant than the musings of a porn star. If you can't or refuse to do that then our conversation is over. Have a blessed day & stay boosted.",
">\n\nA planned search that found no documents? Yeah, not much of a story there no matter how desperately you want it to be.",
">\n\nAt the time we initially spoke, you know...when the story broke there was no indication as to whether documents were found or not. Given the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else they \"searched\" your delayed response is comical. Stay blessed & boosted.",
">\n\n\nGiven the fact that multiple boxes of documents have been found everywhere else\n\nLol yeah, I guess you could put 12 documents into multiple boxes.",
">\n\n45 comments, yet this is being downvoted. Why is this a bad thing?",
">\n\nI mean Reddit is bias. Yeah the difference is Biden is complying, but sitting president and former president getting searched by the FBI is a big deal aint it? Why's the Biden one hidden by downvotes? Like I said if this said Trump instead of Biden, it would skyrocket to the front page. \nFor fuck sakes, the top comments talking about Pence...Turns out Reddit uses the same alt-right talk points and swaps the name. It's literally the same cesspool painted a different color.",
">\n\nSo why are you still here then? You can ubsub anytime you want.",
">\n\nYou see this is the exact same comments you get in alt-right subs.",
">\n\nI just can't imagine spending so much of my free time hanging around internet forums that I hate. What's that like?",
">\n\nYou’re an Eagles fan aren’t you?",
">\n\nThe sitting president is currently having his personal residences searched by the FBI for document mishandling ... and the front page of this subreddit is talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. What a joke lmaoooo",
">\n\nYou left out some key details and context. The sitting president is complying with a search. The former president wrote and signed a paycheck to a pornstar to hide an affair, while in office.",
">\n\nYou're leaving out the key detail that this IS a major unfolding political story and it's being intentionally and massively downvoted.",
">\n\nThis story came out 20 mins ago. Maybe if he didn’t comply and spread lies, it would be more popping. This is the internet, I have no control about how this story will do on the internet. Again, let them search and investigate and hold him accountable.\nJust like the former sitting president should be held accountable for paying off a pornstar while in office. You keep missing that part.",
">\n\nThis is a story about the sitting president's personal homes being searched by the FBI and >50% of present users (so far) downvoted it for seemingly being unworthy or irrelevant of politics.",
">\n\nAnd what do you want us to do with the downvotes? If the sitting president lied for a year that he returned all documents, and obstructed justice, there would probably be more engagement. \nYou should be concerned why one president complies and the other spreads conspiracies. Why is a “Christian” president banging a pornstar? And then obstructing justice.",
">\n\nWhat does your belief on how you think I should feel have to do with this subreddit mass-downvoting an objectively major political story?",
">\n\nBecause of your assumption that people in this sub are downvoting coz they care more about Stormy Daniels than the FBI searching a sitting presidents house. \nWith context, he didn’t lie and say they’re his documents, and he didn’t pay off a pornstar. Considering you’re the one who brought up the pornstar story. Why do the downvotes matter?",
">\n\nTLDR: As long as your moral compass is Trump, you can never do any wrong!",
">\n\nCouldn’t be more wrong. Obstructing justice does show one’s moral compass if that’s what you got out of it.",
">\n\n61% upvoted. No agenda in this sub. lol",
">\n\nDefinitely not more important than something \"Stormy Daniels\" has to say...",
">\n\nDude just has shit everywhere. Might as well check every property owned by Biden at this point",
">\n\nGood then.",
">\n\nJoe Biden takes classified documents very seriously. He also happens to take them places and forget about them. A lot.",
">\n\nExcept none were found? And he didn’t take them anywhere by any evidence so far?",
">\n\nWhat do you mean they haven't found any? Not in Rehoboth, maybe, but they have found them in multiple places so far including his garage.",
">\n\nThere’s zero evidence so far that he personally took them or forgot about them since he probably didn’t ever know they were there in the first place. \nAnd the “multiple” you said was two, the only two. And we’re kinda done at this point. Yes I meant none today.\nHe notified them, handed them back. The story is basically over.",
">\n\nWho do you think put them in his garage? Is he not responsible for them when they are in his care?",
">\n\nNot even in the same ballpark as Trump's criminality.",
">\n\nDear GOP House: Impeach him so when trump is indicted you all STFU",
">\n\ncan anyone one smarter than me explain why they're allowed to have top secret/confidential documents at home without having to like I don't know....sign them out and return them so there's an audit trail? Seems like a pretty large oversight.",
">\n\nI think they do \"sign them out\". But POTUS and VPOTUS are special positions in the US govt. They are never not on duty. Imagine the president is home in Delaware for a weekend and he can't make a decision because some documents are back in DC? That's not acceptable. So I think some leeway is given to holders of those 2 offices.",
">\n\nThey found nothing already",
">\n\nNothing was found.",
">\n\nSo, when are Trump’s properties going to be searched? Oh yeah…right",
">\n\nI'm less concerned with how many documents Biden has and how many homes he can buy as a public servant. America is so messed up",
">\n\nI'm glad they didn't find any more documents. However, maybe this is just me but it's kinda weird that they searched the home of a sitting president. Because I'm old enough to remember when the DOJ wouldn't even ask Trump for the time of day much less subject his home to a search by the FBI. And here they just casually search Biden's home. Meanwhile those on the Right will still not be satisfied. Merrick Garland has done everything short of slapping handcuffs on Biden and it will not be good enough.",
">\n\nThe controversy isn’t over. I saw a report that said there maybe some information contained in classified documents that were referenced in Hunter Biden’s emails. The notes they found at this residence may have personal notes from classified information. They really should have a better way of tracking this stuff and keeping it secure.",
">\n\nit's not as bad though",
">\n\nStop trying to draw a parallel between the two.",
">\n\nKeep going with the facts. One opened his door to get searched, the other lied and spread conspiracy theories. Draw a parallel with Mike Pence too, who swore he didn’t have documents while hammering Biden.",
">\n\nWhy hasn't the DoJ searched Trump's other homes and that plane?",
">\n\nI wonder if they have, and word has simply not gotten out. Chances are low, considering he was the one to announce the raid in the first place, but I still wonder.",
">\n\nIf the FBI raided any of Trump's properties, we'd know about it instantly. Donald Trump's mouth is the largest fucking klaxon known to mankind.",
">\n\nI tend to agree. I've been wrong before though.",
">\n\nThe FBI are searching all of Biden's homes etc. The searched one place in one of Trump's resistances. Now who will the right say is getting unequal treatment.",
">\n\nThe right will just say anyone on their team is the one getting unequal treatment, is what it is.",
">\n\nI will say that Trump should be getting all of his properties searched not because of it not being equal. The situations are not equal. The similarities are that classified documents are involved. What Trump knowingly did and his refusal to return documents is far worse and points to a guilty mind. He should be the investigated and searched and monitored so he doesn't destroy evidence or pass on Intelligence.",
">\n\nThe levels of classified information also matters. I hate that they don't state what levels they found in Biden's homes, it leaves the door open for similarities that may not exist. The average Joe is just going to assume that classified is classified and that the situations are identical, when in fact Trump had some of the highest classification level documents and refused to return them.",
">\n\nIf they find something and find intent, charge Biden no different than Trump.\nBut there's still a world of difference between \"I'm reporting these documents we found and working with the FBI and DOJ to search anywhere they think is needed to find anymore documents that may have been incorrectly stored\" vs \"I'm not going to comply with requests for the documents, not going to comply with a subpoena, get raided by the FBI, then sue to try and get those documents back.\"",
">\n\nWhy do you guys all preemptively bring up trump to deflect ?",
">\n\nBecause the right wing media constantly talked and still talks about unfair Trump was treated and the new GOP congress want to investigate the FBI's raid and efforts to get the documents back.",
">\n\nSo you’re stooping to the same level of whatabboutism that the right wing media does ? Thanks for confirming that lol",
">\n\nPreemptively cutting off the inevitable attempts at right wing whatabboutism isn't the same as stooping to whatabboutism.",
">\n\nLol “my preemptive whatabboutism isn’t the same as the opposing parties whatabboutism!”\nAlso who the fuck is spreading right wing propaganda on any of these threads on r/politics ? Literally point me to any upvoted comment speaking ill of Biden and well of trump",
">\n\nAt this point every property Trump owns needs to be searched. Seems fair.",
">\n\n\n(CNN) — The FBI is conducting a search of President Joe Biden’s home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, on Wednesday as a special counsel investigation into his handling of classified material begins in earnest.\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.\n“Under DOJ’s standard procedures, in the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advance public notice, and we agreed to cooperate,” Bauer said. “The search today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process we will continue to fully support and facilitate. We will have further information at the conclusion of today’s search.”\nReporters positioned in the coastal community observed black sport utility vehicles and sedans arriving to the home mid-morning.\nThe FBI search in Rehoboth marks the third known occasion that federal agents have searched properties associated with Biden to look for classified material.\nThe FBI previously searched Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, turning up what his lawyer described as multiple items containing classified material. That search occurred January 20.\nThe FBI also searched the Washington office of the Penn Biden Center in mid-November after Biden’s attorneys first discovered classified material in a locked closet at the think tank.\nBiden purchased his home in Rehoboth after leaving the vice presidency. He and his wife occasionally spend weekends there, most recently from January 20 to 23.",
">\n\nWhy are they not searching Pence's homes? Why is there zero news on Pence? What is happening with Trump and his empty folders of classified material? This is so ridiculous.",
">\n\nBiden invited them.",
">\n\nWhere does it say that? And why didn't Trump or Pence not do the same to show full disclosure and cooperation? Why is it so one-sided?",
">\n\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean Biden invited them, it just means he's cooperating.",
">\n\nIn order for the FBI to search a home, they need a warrant, or they need to witness a crime etc, or they need to be invited in. \nIn this case, it sure sounds like they were invited in.",
">\n\nGotta love the way the press is spinning this full on to make it sound like it's an ongoing thing like he's currently stuffing Iranian nuclear secrets into couch cushions at his beach house, instead of the likely clerical error or unintentional carelessness as things were put into storage, which is what it likely is.",
">\n\nHow are they spinning it? This seems like a pretty bland article here. Obviously the president's home being raided is big news regardless. Doesn't exactly happen every day.",
">\n\nNot raided.\nRaided is full tac gear, soaking the door down and everybody getting cuffed.\nSearching is opening the door and allowing the FBI in and giving them access.\nTwo very different things.",
">\n\nHow pedantic. You can raid something without using gear. That's a silly definition. Either way we know what happened here.",
">\n\nA “raid” implies the use of a warrant and a lack of cooperation. No warrant was required in this case as the president’s team is fully cooperating.",
">\n\nCan we spare the semantics? I used the word raid casually. I can raid my fridge without a warrant or tactical gear. I apologize if I perhaps did not use the word 100% correctly for everyone's taste. Seems to me people are being very defensive over this because it involves Biden particularly.\nA search, a visit, a little perusal, whatever you want to call it, it's obviously big news when it happens to a president.",
">\n\nWords matter. This is not a raid, no matter how casually you want to use it.",
">\n\nIf police came to my or your house and searched it regardless of what they were wearing or whether or not they had a warrant, it would be 100% normal to call it a raid. That's just colloquial conversation. No where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.",
">\n\n\nNo where in the definition does it say a raid has to involve a warrant. It just has to be a surprise.\n\nOh, so then can you provide a source showing that this “raid” on Biden’s home was a surprise? Because according to the article you are commenting on, it was not a surprise:\n\n“Today, with the President’s full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware,” Biden’s personal attorney Bob Bauer wrote in a statement."
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