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[ "That he wanted the dude fired isn't really newsworthy, but how he learned about the usher meeting with Biden is. The Secret Service told him. That means at least one of the Secret Service agents assigned to protect Biden at that time was sharing information he learned while on the job with Trump's people. No wonder there have been reports of Biden being careful of what he says around the Secret Service.", ">\n\nI still don’t understand how Biden hasn’t cleared out the SS.", ">\n\nIt’s a group of very specially skilled, highly trained people. They can’t easily replace the entire detail and even if he did with agents from other areas, there’s no telling that would be any better.\nHis only other good option may be a military detail and that comes with its own host of issues.", ">\n\nHaving a group of specially skilled, highly trained people betraying your interests to work against you sounds like it would be worse than having a less skilled less trained force that is actually loyal.", ">\n\nThat's just choosing between the devil you know and the devil you don't.\nYou can't know what level of exposure you will get with a green member of staff. An experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.", ">\n\n\nAn experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.\n\nAre you seriously suggesting that literal traitors would be better bodyguards for the president than noobs (only relatively speaking, since there are plenty of non-career-USSS folks who have done personal protection duty before) would, because traitors know how to cover their tracks? Or am I radically misunderstanding you? Because if I understood you correctly then that sounds like insanity.\nWe might as well resurrect John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald and have them guard our president. They really knew what they were doing.", ">\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk and not a physical threat to any government worker.\nAny of the agents will also not have the history of a Confederate or a USSR defector respectively.\nThey would need some proof of a threat that they pose, or at least some indication that they are disregarding their duties before replacing them with someone less effective.\nThey are managing a rumor mill.", ">\n\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk\n\nIf it were only infosec that had ever been in question, I might ageee with you. But trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\nAnd also, there’s not really such a thing as only an infosec risk when it comes to presidential security. Intentionally giving information about Biden’s activities to parties you know have hostile intentions toward him obviously poses a physical security risk.\nEdited to remove autocorrect of “infosec” to “informed.”", ">\n\n\nBut trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\n\nIf the agents that made those decisions are still employed that's interesting. If they can't figure out exactly who was progressing the plot that really sucks.\nI don't think they can afford to clean house if this is the case.", ">\n\nTrump never grasped how transition works even though multiple people explained it to him. \nBasically, if Trump really doesn't like something, he's going to refuse to listen or try to understand.\n\nUltimately, Harleth was fired on Inauguration Day even before the Bidens officially moved into the White House\nSince there was no hired usher at the time of their arrival, the Bidens were greeted with a set of closed doors on the North Portico. Typically, the doors would have been held open for the first family.\n\nI'm sure Donald Trump got some smug satisfaction out of that. \nAs I understood it, the crew was still deep-cleaning the place as per Biden's request. Donald probably tried to stop them from doing their jobs as well.", ">\n\nI’d forgotten about that. A book containing a one sentence description of every horrible/embarrassing/stupid thing trump and his family did in those four years would be too heavy to lift.", ">\n\nI’ve long thought that the number of scandals was part of the problem with the American people realizing how corrupt trump was. No scandal got sufficient coverage because a new one would come up. It’s hard to do the equivalent of Benghazi, Benghazi for years as republicans did when something new comes up nearly every damn day. People didn’t have time to fully understand any of the things he did because he’d do something new. It also didn’t help that the media gave as much attention to an inappropriate tweet as they did to extorting the leader of a foreign nation for political gain. His tweeting was repulsive, but the fact that he picked middle school fights with celebrities hardly compares in significance with obstructing the investigation into the extent of Russia’s involvement in spreading misinformation in the US in order to help trump get elected", ">\n\nThat’s so true. The media is much to blame, but so are Democratic spokespeople, who are so anxious to explain their own “brilliant” unique take on whatever issue is being discussed, they forget that repetition is key to convincing the public. How they were unable to make more hay from the Mueller report is one of the great mysteries of the age. The other is how they failed to capitalize on Biden’s leadership on Ukraine to boost his ratings and their own.", ">\n\nYeah why actually explaining the issues to the American people when empty slogans work better.", ">\n\nPetty little putz, not mention just an asshole.", ">\n\nIf anyone dug into it, I’d wager he killed his own brother", ">\n\nHis father did a pretty good job of that even without any help from Donald.", ">\n\nHe is a 70 year old toddler in mid sugar meltdown 24/7.", ">\n\n76 year old toddler.", ">\n\nI wonder if Americans truly understand the damage this man did to their international credibility. Just the sheer amount of things he did for nothing more than spite made America look petty af\nIt will be a long time before I ever feel I can trust the country again after Trump had my home country (and long time ally to the USA) Canada labeled an official threat to US National security, all so that he could push thru his tariffs against my country without Congress approval. \nCanada is now officially on the records sitting next to the Taliban, Iran nuclear ambitions and Al Quaeda, threats to the United States existence; that's where Trump officially placed us. \nThen he attempts a violent insurrection which he still has yet to see any repurcussions for.... But yet Canada's still on that list", ">\n\nSome of us do. This particular petty thing he did to Canada is bad enough, but when he withdrew from the Paris climate accords and the Iran nuclear deal, he showed the world that the United States couldn’t be trusted to keep its word. If the commitments of the US can’t be trusted to outlast the current administration, why the fuck would any country make any agreements with us? It will take decades of continuous promise keeping to restore the international confidence in our word that Trump causally threw in trash. The maga-morons think trump restored international respect for us. I’m not sure that the damage trump did to this country both internally and internationally can ever be repaired", ">\n\nYou put it far more succinctly than I ever could. I forgot about the Paris agreement, but his backing out of the Iran deal really confused me. If you think they might make nuclear weapons, why destroy the entire agreement that safeguarded against that, essentially letting Iran now do whatever they wanted" ]

[ "That he wanted the dude fired isn't really newsworthy, but how he learned about the usher meeting with Biden is. The Secret Service told him. That means at least one of the Secret Service agents assigned to protect Biden at that time was sharing information he learned while on the job with Trump's people. No wonder there have been reports of Biden being careful of what he says around the Secret Service.", ">\n\nI still don’t understand how Biden hasn’t cleared out the SS.", ">\n\nIt’s a group of very specially skilled, highly trained people. They can’t easily replace the entire detail and even if he did with agents from other areas, there’s no telling that would be any better.\nHis only other good option may be a military detail and that comes with its own host of issues.", ">\n\nHaving a group of specially skilled, highly trained people betraying your interests to work against you sounds like it would be worse than having a less skilled less trained force that is actually loyal.", ">\n\nThat's just choosing between the devil you know and the devil you don't.\nYou can't know what level of exposure you will get with a green member of staff. An experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.", ">\n\n\nAn experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.\n\nAre you seriously suggesting that literal traitors would be better bodyguards for the president than noobs (only relatively speaking, since there are plenty of non-career-USSS folks who have done personal protection duty before) would, because traitors know how to cover their tracks? Or am I radically misunderstanding you? Because if I understood you correctly then that sounds like insanity.\nWe might as well resurrect John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald and have them guard our president. They really knew what they were doing.", ">\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk and not a physical threat to any government worker.\nAny of the agents will also not have the history of a Confederate or a USSR defector respectively.\nThey would need some proof of a threat that they pose, or at least some indication that they are disregarding their duties before replacing them with someone less effective.\nThey are managing a rumor mill.", ">\n\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk\n\nIf it were only infosec that had ever been in question, I might ageee with you. But trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\nAnd also, there’s not really such a thing as only an infosec risk when it comes to presidential security. Intentionally giving information about Biden’s activities to parties you know have hostile intentions toward him obviously poses a physical security risk.\nEdited to remove autocorrect of “infosec” to “informed.”", ">\n\n\nBut trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\n\nIf the agents that made those decisions are still employed that's interesting. If they can't figure out exactly who was progressing the plot that really sucks.\nI don't think they can afford to clean house if this is the case.", ">\n\nTrump never grasped how transition works even though multiple people explained it to him. \nBasically, if Trump really doesn't like something, he's going to refuse to listen or try to understand.\n\nUltimately, Harleth was fired on Inauguration Day even before the Bidens officially moved into the White House\nSince there was no hired usher at the time of their arrival, the Bidens were greeted with a set of closed doors on the North Portico. Typically, the doors would have been held open for the first family.\n\nI'm sure Donald Trump got some smug satisfaction out of that. \nAs I understood it, the crew was still deep-cleaning the place as per Biden's request. Donald probably tried to stop them from doing their jobs as well.", ">\n\nI’d forgotten about that. A book containing a one sentence description of every horrible/embarrassing/stupid thing trump and his family did in those four years would be too heavy to lift.", ">\n\nI’ve long thought that the number of scandals was part of the problem with the American people realizing how corrupt trump was. No scandal got sufficient coverage because a new one would come up. It’s hard to do the equivalent of Benghazi, Benghazi for years as republicans did when something new comes up nearly every damn day. People didn’t have time to fully understand any of the things he did because he’d do something new. It also didn’t help that the media gave as much attention to an inappropriate tweet as they did to extorting the leader of a foreign nation for political gain. His tweeting was repulsive, but the fact that he picked middle school fights with celebrities hardly compares in significance with obstructing the investigation into the extent of Russia’s involvement in spreading misinformation in the US in order to help trump get elected", ">\n\nThat’s so true. The media is much to blame, but so are Democratic spokespeople, who are so anxious to explain their own “brilliant” unique take on whatever issue is being discussed, they forget that repetition is key to convincing the public. How they were unable to make more hay from the Mueller report is one of the great mysteries of the age. The other is how they failed to capitalize on Biden’s leadership on Ukraine to boost his ratings and their own.", ">\n\nYeah why actually explaining the issues to the American people when empty slogans work better.", ">\n\nPetty little putz, not mention just an asshole.", ">\n\nIf anyone dug into it, I’d wager he killed his own brother", ">\n\nHis father did a pretty good job of that even without any help from Donald.", ">\n\nHe is a 70 year old toddler in mid sugar meltdown 24/7.", ">\n\n76 year old toddler.", ">\n\nI wonder if Americans truly understand the damage this man did to their international credibility. Just the sheer amount of things he did for nothing more than spite made America look petty af\nIt will be a long time before I ever feel I can trust the country again after Trump had my home country (and long time ally to the USA) Canada labeled an official threat to US National security, all so that he could push thru his tariffs against my country without Congress approval. \nCanada is now officially on the records sitting next to the Taliban, Iran nuclear ambitions and Al Quaeda, threats to the United States existence; that's where Trump officially placed us. \nThen he attempts a violent insurrection which he still has yet to see any repurcussions for.... But yet Canada's still on that list", ">\n\nSome of us do. This particular petty thing he did to Canada is bad enough, but when he withdrew from the Paris climate accords and the Iran nuclear deal, he showed the world that the United States couldn’t be trusted to keep its word. If the commitments of the US can’t be trusted to outlast the current administration, why the fuck would any country make any agreements with us? It will take decades of continuous promise keeping to restore the international confidence in our word that Trump causally threw in trash. The maga-morons think trump restored international respect for us. I’m not sure that the damage trump did to this country both internally and internationally can ever be repaired", ">\n\nYou put it far more succinctly than I ever could. I forgot about the Paris agreement, but his backing out of the Iran deal really confused me. If you think they might make nuclear weapons, why destroy the entire agreement that safeguarded against that, essentially letting Iran now do whatever they wanted", ">\n\nBecause Obama negotiated it. Trump tried to undo everything Obama accomplished from shear spite. We elected a temper tantrum throwing toddler as president. There’s no more point in trying to see logic in anything trump did than there is in reasoning with a 2 year old. I have argued and still believe that you could pick any random adult off any street in any town or city in the country and there would be a 90% chance that whoever you got would be a better president than trump. Believe me, some of us realize how much damage he did. But the fact that anyone would vote to re-elect this man, let alone the numbers who did, is a stinging indictment of the intelligence of the American people. At the time, I thought it would be impossible for anyone to be a worst president than Bush, jr., but compared to trump, W was fantastic, and I’d never have believed I’d ever say this if you had told me in 2007 that I would someday say this" ]

[ "That he wanted the dude fired isn't really newsworthy, but how he learned about the usher meeting with Biden is. The Secret Service told him. That means at least one of the Secret Service agents assigned to protect Biden at that time was sharing information he learned while on the job with Trump's people. No wonder there have been reports of Biden being careful of what he says around the Secret Service.", ">\n\nI still don’t understand how Biden hasn’t cleared out the SS.", ">\n\nIt’s a group of very specially skilled, highly trained people. They can’t easily replace the entire detail and even if he did with agents from other areas, there’s no telling that would be any better.\nHis only other good option may be a military detail and that comes with its own host of issues.", ">\n\nHaving a group of specially skilled, highly trained people betraying your interests to work against you sounds like it would be worse than having a less skilled less trained force that is actually loyal.", ">\n\nThat's just choosing between the devil you know and the devil you don't.\nYou can't know what level of exposure you will get with a green member of staff. An experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.", ">\n\n\nAn experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.\n\nAre you seriously suggesting that literal traitors would be better bodyguards for the president than noobs (only relatively speaking, since there are plenty of non-career-USSS folks who have done personal protection duty before) would, because traitors know how to cover their tracks? Or am I radically misunderstanding you? Because if I understood you correctly then that sounds like insanity.\nWe might as well resurrect John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald and have them guard our president. They really knew what they were doing.", ">\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk and not a physical threat to any government worker.\nAny of the agents will also not have the history of a Confederate or a USSR defector respectively.\nThey would need some proof of a threat that they pose, or at least some indication that they are disregarding their duties before replacing them with someone less effective.\nThey are managing a rumor mill.", ">\n\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk\n\nIf it were only infosec that had ever been in question, I might ageee with you. But trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\nAnd also, there’s not really such a thing as only an infosec risk when it comes to presidential security. Intentionally giving information about Biden’s activities to parties you know have hostile intentions toward him obviously poses a physical security risk.\nEdited to remove autocorrect of “infosec” to “informed.”", ">\n\n\nBut trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\n\nIf the agents that made those decisions are still employed that's interesting. If they can't figure out exactly who was progressing the plot that really sucks.\nI don't think they can afford to clean house if this is the case.", ">\n\nTrump never grasped how transition works even though multiple people explained it to him. \nBasically, if Trump really doesn't like something, he's going to refuse to listen or try to understand.\n\nUltimately, Harleth was fired on Inauguration Day even before the Bidens officially moved into the White House\nSince there was no hired usher at the time of their arrival, the Bidens were greeted with a set of closed doors on the North Portico. Typically, the doors would have been held open for the first family.\n\nI'm sure Donald Trump got some smug satisfaction out of that. \nAs I understood it, the crew was still deep-cleaning the place as per Biden's request. Donald probably tried to stop them from doing their jobs as well.", ">\n\nI’d forgotten about that. A book containing a one sentence description of every horrible/embarrassing/stupid thing trump and his family did in those four years would be too heavy to lift.", ">\n\nI’ve long thought that the number of scandals was part of the problem with the American people realizing how corrupt trump was. No scandal got sufficient coverage because a new one would come up. It’s hard to do the equivalent of Benghazi, Benghazi for years as republicans did when something new comes up nearly every damn day. People didn’t have time to fully understand any of the things he did because he’d do something new. It also didn’t help that the media gave as much attention to an inappropriate tweet as they did to extorting the leader of a foreign nation for political gain. His tweeting was repulsive, but the fact that he picked middle school fights with celebrities hardly compares in significance with obstructing the investigation into the extent of Russia’s involvement in spreading misinformation in the US in order to help trump get elected", ">\n\nThat’s so true. The media is much to blame, but so are Democratic spokespeople, who are so anxious to explain their own “brilliant” unique take on whatever issue is being discussed, they forget that repetition is key to convincing the public. How they were unable to make more hay from the Mueller report is one of the great mysteries of the age. The other is how they failed to capitalize on Biden’s leadership on Ukraine to boost his ratings and their own.", ">\n\nYeah why actually explaining the issues to the American people when empty slogans work better.", ">\n\nPetty little putz, not mention just an asshole.", ">\n\nIf anyone dug into it, I’d wager he killed his own brother", ">\n\nHis father did a pretty good job of that even without any help from Donald.", ">\n\nHe is a 70 year old toddler in mid sugar meltdown 24/7.", ">\n\n76 year old toddler.", ">\n\nI wonder if Americans truly understand the damage this man did to their international credibility. Just the sheer amount of things he did for nothing more than spite made America look petty af\nIt will be a long time before I ever feel I can trust the country again after Trump had my home country (and long time ally to the USA) Canada labeled an official threat to US National security, all so that he could push thru his tariffs against my country without Congress approval. \nCanada is now officially on the records sitting next to the Taliban, Iran nuclear ambitions and Al Quaeda, threats to the United States existence; that's where Trump officially placed us. \nThen he attempts a violent insurrection which he still has yet to see any repurcussions for.... But yet Canada's still on that list", ">\n\nSome of us do. This particular petty thing he did to Canada is bad enough, but when he withdrew from the Paris climate accords and the Iran nuclear deal, he showed the world that the United States couldn’t be trusted to keep its word. If the commitments of the US can’t be trusted to outlast the current administration, why the fuck would any country make any agreements with us? It will take decades of continuous promise keeping to restore the international confidence in our word that Trump causally threw in trash. The maga-morons think trump restored international respect for us. I’m not sure that the damage trump did to this country both internally and internationally can ever be repaired", ">\n\nYou put it far more succinctly than I ever could. I forgot about the Paris agreement, but his backing out of the Iran deal really confused me. If you think they might make nuclear weapons, why destroy the entire agreement that safeguarded against that, essentially letting Iran now do whatever they wanted", ">\n\nBecause Obama negotiated it. Trump tried to undo everything Obama accomplished from shear spite. We elected a temper tantrum throwing toddler as president. There’s no more point in trying to see logic in anything trump did than there is in reasoning with a 2 year old. I have argued and still believe that you could pick any random adult off any street in any town or city in the country and there would be a 90% chance that whoever you got would be a better president than trump. Believe me, some of us realize how much damage he did. But the fact that anyone would vote to re-elect this man, let alone the numbers who did, is a stinging indictment of the intelligence of the American people. At the time, I thought it would be impossible for anyone to be a worst president than Bush, jr., but compared to trump, W was fantastic, and I’d never have believed I’d ever say this if you had told me in 2007 that I would someday say this", ">\n\nHe was still fired and I doubt Melania gave 2 Fs whether the dude got fired 3 weeks to go or three days to go. That whole family AND Stephanie “multiple DUIs” Grisham are scum" ]

[ "That he wanted the dude fired isn't really newsworthy, but how he learned about the usher meeting with Biden is. The Secret Service told him. That means at least one of the Secret Service agents assigned to protect Biden at that time was sharing information he learned while on the job with Trump's people. No wonder there have been reports of Biden being careful of what he says around the Secret Service.", ">\n\nI still don’t understand how Biden hasn’t cleared out the SS.", ">\n\nIt’s a group of very specially skilled, highly trained people. They can’t easily replace the entire detail and even if he did with agents from other areas, there’s no telling that would be any better.\nHis only other good option may be a military detail and that comes with its own host of issues.", ">\n\nHaving a group of specially skilled, highly trained people betraying your interests to work against you sounds like it would be worse than having a less skilled less trained force that is actually loyal.", ">\n\nThat's just choosing between the devil you know and the devil you don't.\nYou can't know what level of exposure you will get with a green member of staff. An experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.", ">\n\n\nAn experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.\n\nAre you seriously suggesting that literal traitors would be better bodyguards for the president than noobs (only relatively speaking, since there are plenty of non-career-USSS folks who have done personal protection duty before) would, because traitors know how to cover their tracks? Or am I radically misunderstanding you? Because if I understood you correctly then that sounds like insanity.\nWe might as well resurrect John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald and have them guard our president. They really knew what they were doing.", ">\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk and not a physical threat to any government worker.\nAny of the agents will also not have the history of a Confederate or a USSR defector respectively.\nThey would need some proof of a threat that they pose, or at least some indication that they are disregarding their duties before replacing them with someone less effective.\nThey are managing a rumor mill.", ">\n\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk\n\nIf it were only infosec that had ever been in question, I might ageee with you. But trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\nAnd also, there’s not really such a thing as only an infosec risk when it comes to presidential security. Intentionally giving information about Biden’s activities to parties you know have hostile intentions toward him obviously poses a physical security risk.\nEdited to remove autocorrect of “infosec” to “informed.”", ">\n\n\nBut trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\n\nIf the agents that made those decisions are still employed that's interesting. If they can't figure out exactly who was progressing the plot that really sucks.\nI don't think they can afford to clean house if this is the case.", ">\n\nTrump never grasped how transition works even though multiple people explained it to him. \nBasically, if Trump really doesn't like something, he's going to refuse to listen or try to understand.\n\nUltimately, Harleth was fired on Inauguration Day even before the Bidens officially moved into the White House\nSince there was no hired usher at the time of their arrival, the Bidens were greeted with a set of closed doors on the North Portico. Typically, the doors would have been held open for the first family.\n\nI'm sure Donald Trump got some smug satisfaction out of that. \nAs I understood it, the crew was still deep-cleaning the place as per Biden's request. Donald probably tried to stop them from doing their jobs as well.", ">\n\nI’d forgotten about that. A book containing a one sentence description of every horrible/embarrassing/stupid thing trump and his family did in those four years would be too heavy to lift.", ">\n\nI’ve long thought that the number of scandals was part of the problem with the American people realizing how corrupt trump was. No scandal got sufficient coverage because a new one would come up. It’s hard to do the equivalent of Benghazi, Benghazi for years as republicans did when something new comes up nearly every damn day. People didn’t have time to fully understand any of the things he did because he’d do something new. It also didn’t help that the media gave as much attention to an inappropriate tweet as they did to extorting the leader of a foreign nation for political gain. His tweeting was repulsive, but the fact that he picked middle school fights with celebrities hardly compares in significance with obstructing the investigation into the extent of Russia’s involvement in spreading misinformation in the US in order to help trump get elected", ">\n\nThat’s so true. The media is much to blame, but so are Democratic spokespeople, who are so anxious to explain their own “brilliant” unique take on whatever issue is being discussed, they forget that repetition is key to convincing the public. How they were unable to make more hay from the Mueller report is one of the great mysteries of the age. The other is how they failed to capitalize on Biden’s leadership on Ukraine to boost his ratings and their own.", ">\n\nYeah why actually explaining the issues to the American people when empty slogans work better.", ">\n\nPetty little putz, not mention just an asshole.", ">\n\nIf anyone dug into it, I’d wager he killed his own brother", ">\n\nHis father did a pretty good job of that even without any help from Donald.", ">\n\nHe is a 70 year old toddler in mid sugar meltdown 24/7.", ">\n\n76 year old toddler.", ">\n\nI wonder if Americans truly understand the damage this man did to their international credibility. Just the sheer amount of things he did for nothing more than spite made America look petty af\nIt will be a long time before I ever feel I can trust the country again after Trump had my home country (and long time ally to the USA) Canada labeled an official threat to US National security, all so that he could push thru his tariffs against my country without Congress approval. \nCanada is now officially on the records sitting next to the Taliban, Iran nuclear ambitions and Al Quaeda, threats to the United States existence; that's where Trump officially placed us. \nThen he attempts a violent insurrection which he still has yet to see any repurcussions for.... But yet Canada's still on that list", ">\n\nSome of us do. This particular petty thing he did to Canada is bad enough, but when he withdrew from the Paris climate accords and the Iran nuclear deal, he showed the world that the United States couldn’t be trusted to keep its word. If the commitments of the US can’t be trusted to outlast the current administration, why the fuck would any country make any agreements with us? It will take decades of continuous promise keeping to restore the international confidence in our word that Trump causally threw in trash. The maga-morons think trump restored international respect for us. I’m not sure that the damage trump did to this country both internally and internationally can ever be repaired", ">\n\nYou put it far more succinctly than I ever could. I forgot about the Paris agreement, but his backing out of the Iran deal really confused me. If you think they might make nuclear weapons, why destroy the entire agreement that safeguarded against that, essentially letting Iran now do whatever they wanted", ">\n\nBecause Obama negotiated it. Trump tried to undo everything Obama accomplished from shear spite. We elected a temper tantrum throwing toddler as president. There’s no more point in trying to see logic in anything trump did than there is in reasoning with a 2 year old. I have argued and still believe that you could pick any random adult off any street in any town or city in the country and there would be a 90% chance that whoever you got would be a better president than trump. Believe me, some of us realize how much damage he did. But the fact that anyone would vote to re-elect this man, let alone the numbers who did, is a stinging indictment of the intelligence of the American people. At the time, I thought it would be impossible for anyone to be a worst president than Bush, jr., but compared to trump, W was fantastic, and I’d never have believed I’d ever say this if you had told me in 2007 that I would someday say this", ">\n\nHe was still fired and I doubt Melania gave 2 Fs whether the dude got fired 3 weeks to go or three days to go. That whole family AND Stephanie “multiple DUIs” Grisham are scum", ">\n\nFuck trump" ]

[ "That he wanted the dude fired isn't really newsworthy, but how he learned about the usher meeting with Biden is. The Secret Service told him. That means at least one of the Secret Service agents assigned to protect Biden at that time was sharing information he learned while on the job with Trump's people. No wonder there have been reports of Biden being careful of what he says around the Secret Service.", ">\n\nI still don’t understand how Biden hasn’t cleared out the SS.", ">\n\nIt’s a group of very specially skilled, highly trained people. They can’t easily replace the entire detail and even if he did with agents from other areas, there’s no telling that would be any better.\nHis only other good option may be a military detail and that comes with its own host of issues.", ">\n\nHaving a group of specially skilled, highly trained people betraying your interests to work against you sounds like it would be worse than having a less skilled less trained force that is actually loyal.", ">\n\nThat's just choosing between the devil you know and the devil you don't.\nYou can't know what level of exposure you will get with a green member of staff. An experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.", ">\n\n\nAn experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.\n\nAre you seriously suggesting that literal traitors would be better bodyguards for the president than noobs (only relatively speaking, since there are plenty of non-career-USSS folks who have done personal protection duty before) would, because traitors know how to cover their tracks? Or am I radically misunderstanding you? Because if I understood you correctly then that sounds like insanity.\nWe might as well resurrect John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald and have them guard our president. They really knew what they were doing.", ">\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk and not a physical threat to any government worker.\nAny of the agents will also not have the history of a Confederate or a USSR defector respectively.\nThey would need some proof of a threat that they pose, or at least some indication that they are disregarding their duties before replacing them with someone less effective.\nThey are managing a rumor mill.", ">\n\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk\n\nIf it were only infosec that had ever been in question, I might ageee with you. But trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\nAnd also, there’s not really such a thing as only an infosec risk when it comes to presidential security. Intentionally giving information about Biden’s activities to parties you know have hostile intentions toward him obviously poses a physical security risk.\nEdited to remove autocorrect of “infosec” to “informed.”", ">\n\n\nBut trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\n\nIf the agents that made those decisions are still employed that's interesting. If they can't figure out exactly who was progressing the plot that really sucks.\nI don't think they can afford to clean house if this is the case.", ">\n\nTrump never grasped how transition works even though multiple people explained it to him. \nBasically, if Trump really doesn't like something, he's going to refuse to listen or try to understand.\n\nUltimately, Harleth was fired on Inauguration Day even before the Bidens officially moved into the White House\nSince there was no hired usher at the time of their arrival, the Bidens were greeted with a set of closed doors on the North Portico. Typically, the doors would have been held open for the first family.\n\nI'm sure Donald Trump got some smug satisfaction out of that. \nAs I understood it, the crew was still deep-cleaning the place as per Biden's request. Donald probably tried to stop them from doing their jobs as well.", ">\n\nI’d forgotten about that. A book containing a one sentence description of every horrible/embarrassing/stupid thing trump and his family did in those four years would be too heavy to lift.", ">\n\nI’ve long thought that the number of scandals was part of the problem with the American people realizing how corrupt trump was. No scandal got sufficient coverage because a new one would come up. It’s hard to do the equivalent of Benghazi, Benghazi for years as republicans did when something new comes up nearly every damn day. People didn’t have time to fully understand any of the things he did because he’d do something new. It also didn’t help that the media gave as much attention to an inappropriate tweet as they did to extorting the leader of a foreign nation for political gain. His tweeting was repulsive, but the fact that he picked middle school fights with celebrities hardly compares in significance with obstructing the investigation into the extent of Russia’s involvement in spreading misinformation in the US in order to help trump get elected", ">\n\nThat’s so true. The media is much to blame, but so are Democratic spokespeople, who are so anxious to explain their own “brilliant” unique take on whatever issue is being discussed, they forget that repetition is key to convincing the public. How they were unable to make more hay from the Mueller report is one of the great mysteries of the age. The other is how they failed to capitalize on Biden’s leadership on Ukraine to boost his ratings and their own.", ">\n\nYeah why actually explaining the issues to the American people when empty slogans work better.", ">\n\nPetty little putz, not mention just an asshole.", ">\n\nIf anyone dug into it, I’d wager he killed his own brother", ">\n\nHis father did a pretty good job of that even without any help from Donald.", ">\n\nHe is a 70 year old toddler in mid sugar meltdown 24/7.", ">\n\n76 year old toddler.", ">\n\nI wonder if Americans truly understand the damage this man did to their international credibility. Just the sheer amount of things he did for nothing more than spite made America look petty af\nIt will be a long time before I ever feel I can trust the country again after Trump had my home country (and long time ally to the USA) Canada labeled an official threat to US National security, all so that he could push thru his tariffs against my country without Congress approval. \nCanada is now officially on the records sitting next to the Taliban, Iran nuclear ambitions and Al Quaeda, threats to the United States existence; that's where Trump officially placed us. \nThen he attempts a violent insurrection which he still has yet to see any repurcussions for.... But yet Canada's still on that list", ">\n\nSome of us do. This particular petty thing he did to Canada is bad enough, but when he withdrew from the Paris climate accords and the Iran nuclear deal, he showed the world that the United States couldn’t be trusted to keep its word. If the commitments of the US can’t be trusted to outlast the current administration, why the fuck would any country make any agreements with us? It will take decades of continuous promise keeping to restore the international confidence in our word that Trump causally threw in trash. The maga-morons think trump restored international respect for us. I’m not sure that the damage trump did to this country both internally and internationally can ever be repaired", ">\n\nYou put it far more succinctly than I ever could. I forgot about the Paris agreement, but his backing out of the Iran deal really confused me. If you think they might make nuclear weapons, why destroy the entire agreement that safeguarded against that, essentially letting Iran now do whatever they wanted", ">\n\nBecause Obama negotiated it. Trump tried to undo everything Obama accomplished from shear spite. We elected a temper tantrum throwing toddler as president. There’s no more point in trying to see logic in anything trump did than there is in reasoning with a 2 year old. I have argued and still believe that you could pick any random adult off any street in any town or city in the country and there would be a 90% chance that whoever you got would be a better president than trump. Believe me, some of us realize how much damage he did. But the fact that anyone would vote to re-elect this man, let alone the numbers who did, is a stinging indictment of the intelligence of the American people. At the time, I thought it would be impossible for anyone to be a worst president than Bush, jr., but compared to trump, W was fantastic, and I’d never have believed I’d ever say this if you had told me in 2007 that I would someday say this", ">\n\nHe was still fired and I doubt Melania gave 2 Fs whether the dude got fired 3 weeks to go or three days to go. That whole family AND Stephanie “multiple DUIs” Grisham are scum", ">\n\nFuck trump", ">\n\nHow dare that guy do the job he is paid to do....." ]

[ "That he wanted the dude fired isn't really newsworthy, but how he learned about the usher meeting with Biden is. The Secret Service told him. That means at least one of the Secret Service agents assigned to protect Biden at that time was sharing information he learned while on the job with Trump's people. No wonder there have been reports of Biden being careful of what he says around the Secret Service.", ">\n\nI still don’t understand how Biden hasn’t cleared out the SS.", ">\n\nIt’s a group of very specially skilled, highly trained people. They can’t easily replace the entire detail and even if he did with agents from other areas, there’s no telling that would be any better.\nHis only other good option may be a military detail and that comes with its own host of issues.", ">\n\nHaving a group of specially skilled, highly trained people betraying your interests to work against you sounds like it would be worse than having a less skilled less trained force that is actually loyal.", ">\n\nThat's just choosing between the devil you know and the devil you don't.\nYou can't know what level of exposure you will get with a green member of staff. An experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.", ">\n\n\nAn experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.\n\nAre you seriously suggesting that literal traitors would be better bodyguards for the president than noobs (only relatively speaking, since there are plenty of non-career-USSS folks who have done personal protection duty before) would, because traitors know how to cover their tracks? Or am I radically misunderstanding you? Because if I understood you correctly then that sounds like insanity.\nWe might as well resurrect John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald and have them guard our president. They really knew what they were doing.", ">\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk and not a physical threat to any government worker.\nAny of the agents will also not have the history of a Confederate or a USSR defector respectively.\nThey would need some proof of a threat that they pose, or at least some indication that they are disregarding their duties before replacing them with someone less effective.\nThey are managing a rumor mill.", ">\n\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk\n\nIf it were only infosec that had ever been in question, I might ageee with you. But trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\nAnd also, there’s not really such a thing as only an infosec risk when it comes to presidential security. Intentionally giving information about Biden’s activities to parties you know have hostile intentions toward him obviously poses a physical security risk.\nEdited to remove autocorrect of “infosec” to “informed.”", ">\n\n\nBut trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\n\nIf the agents that made those decisions are still employed that's interesting. If they can't figure out exactly who was progressing the plot that really sucks.\nI don't think they can afford to clean house if this is the case.", ">\n\nTrump never grasped how transition works even though multiple people explained it to him. \nBasically, if Trump really doesn't like something, he's going to refuse to listen or try to understand.\n\nUltimately, Harleth was fired on Inauguration Day even before the Bidens officially moved into the White House\nSince there was no hired usher at the time of their arrival, the Bidens were greeted with a set of closed doors on the North Portico. Typically, the doors would have been held open for the first family.\n\nI'm sure Donald Trump got some smug satisfaction out of that. \nAs I understood it, the crew was still deep-cleaning the place as per Biden's request. Donald probably tried to stop them from doing their jobs as well.", ">\n\nI’d forgotten about that. A book containing a one sentence description of every horrible/embarrassing/stupid thing trump and his family did in those four years would be too heavy to lift.", ">\n\nI’ve long thought that the number of scandals was part of the problem with the American people realizing how corrupt trump was. No scandal got sufficient coverage because a new one would come up. It’s hard to do the equivalent of Benghazi, Benghazi for years as republicans did when something new comes up nearly every damn day. People didn’t have time to fully understand any of the things he did because he’d do something new. It also didn’t help that the media gave as much attention to an inappropriate tweet as they did to extorting the leader of a foreign nation for political gain. His tweeting was repulsive, but the fact that he picked middle school fights with celebrities hardly compares in significance with obstructing the investigation into the extent of Russia’s involvement in spreading misinformation in the US in order to help trump get elected", ">\n\nThat’s so true. The media is much to blame, but so are Democratic spokespeople, who are so anxious to explain their own “brilliant” unique take on whatever issue is being discussed, they forget that repetition is key to convincing the public. How they were unable to make more hay from the Mueller report is one of the great mysteries of the age. The other is how they failed to capitalize on Biden’s leadership on Ukraine to boost his ratings and their own.", ">\n\nYeah why actually explaining the issues to the American people when empty slogans work better.", ">\n\nPetty little putz, not mention just an asshole.", ">\n\nIf anyone dug into it, I’d wager he killed his own brother", ">\n\nHis father did a pretty good job of that even without any help from Donald.", ">\n\nHe is a 70 year old toddler in mid sugar meltdown 24/7.", ">\n\n76 year old toddler.", ">\n\nI wonder if Americans truly understand the damage this man did to their international credibility. Just the sheer amount of things he did for nothing more than spite made America look petty af\nIt will be a long time before I ever feel I can trust the country again after Trump had my home country (and long time ally to the USA) Canada labeled an official threat to US National security, all so that he could push thru his tariffs against my country without Congress approval. \nCanada is now officially on the records sitting next to the Taliban, Iran nuclear ambitions and Al Quaeda, threats to the United States existence; that's where Trump officially placed us. \nThen he attempts a violent insurrection which he still has yet to see any repurcussions for.... But yet Canada's still on that list", ">\n\nSome of us do. This particular petty thing he did to Canada is bad enough, but when he withdrew from the Paris climate accords and the Iran nuclear deal, he showed the world that the United States couldn’t be trusted to keep its word. If the commitments of the US can’t be trusted to outlast the current administration, why the fuck would any country make any agreements with us? It will take decades of continuous promise keeping to restore the international confidence in our word that Trump causally threw in trash. The maga-morons think trump restored international respect for us. I’m not sure that the damage trump did to this country both internally and internationally can ever be repaired", ">\n\nYou put it far more succinctly than I ever could. I forgot about the Paris agreement, but his backing out of the Iran deal really confused me. If you think they might make nuclear weapons, why destroy the entire agreement that safeguarded against that, essentially letting Iran now do whatever they wanted", ">\n\nBecause Obama negotiated it. Trump tried to undo everything Obama accomplished from shear spite. We elected a temper tantrum throwing toddler as president. There’s no more point in trying to see logic in anything trump did than there is in reasoning with a 2 year old. I have argued and still believe that you could pick any random adult off any street in any town or city in the country and there would be a 90% chance that whoever you got would be a better president than trump. Believe me, some of us realize how much damage he did. But the fact that anyone would vote to re-elect this man, let alone the numbers who did, is a stinging indictment of the intelligence of the American people. At the time, I thought it would be impossible for anyone to be a worst president than Bush, jr., but compared to trump, W was fantastic, and I’d never have believed I’d ever say this if you had told me in 2007 that I would someday say this", ">\n\nHe was still fired and I doubt Melania gave 2 Fs whether the dude got fired 3 weeks to go or three days to go. That whole family AND Stephanie “multiple DUIs” Grisham are scum", ">\n\nFuck trump", ">\n\nHow dare that guy do the job he is paid to do.....", ">\n\nOf all the crap I believe about this man, this one rings total and truthful. Zero doubt in my mind." ]

[ "That he wanted the dude fired isn't really newsworthy, but how he learned about the usher meeting with Biden is. The Secret Service told him. That means at least one of the Secret Service agents assigned to protect Biden at that time was sharing information he learned while on the job with Trump's people. No wonder there have been reports of Biden being careful of what he says around the Secret Service.", ">\n\nI still don’t understand how Biden hasn’t cleared out the SS.", ">\n\nIt’s a group of very specially skilled, highly trained people. They can’t easily replace the entire detail and even if he did with agents from other areas, there’s no telling that would be any better.\nHis only other good option may be a military detail and that comes with its own host of issues.", ">\n\nHaving a group of specially skilled, highly trained people betraying your interests to work against you sounds like it would be worse than having a less skilled less trained force that is actually loyal.", ">\n\nThat's just choosing between the devil you know and the devil you don't.\nYou can't know what level of exposure you will get with a green member of staff. An experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.", ">\n\n\nAn experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.\n\nAre you seriously suggesting that literal traitors would be better bodyguards for the president than noobs (only relatively speaking, since there are plenty of non-career-USSS folks who have done personal protection duty before) would, because traitors know how to cover their tracks? Or am I radically misunderstanding you? Because if I understood you correctly then that sounds like insanity.\nWe might as well resurrect John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald and have them guard our president. They really knew what they were doing.", ">\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk and not a physical threat to any government worker.\nAny of the agents will also not have the history of a Confederate or a USSR defector respectively.\nThey would need some proof of a threat that they pose, or at least some indication that they are disregarding their duties before replacing them with someone less effective.\nThey are managing a rumor mill.", ">\n\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk\n\nIf it were only infosec that had ever been in question, I might ageee with you. But trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\nAnd also, there’s not really such a thing as only an infosec risk when it comes to presidential security. Intentionally giving information about Biden’s activities to parties you know have hostile intentions toward him obviously poses a physical security risk.\nEdited to remove autocorrect of “infosec” to “informed.”", ">\n\n\nBut trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\n\nIf the agents that made those decisions are still employed that's interesting. If they can't figure out exactly who was progressing the plot that really sucks.\nI don't think they can afford to clean house if this is the case.", ">\n\nTrump never grasped how transition works even though multiple people explained it to him. \nBasically, if Trump really doesn't like something, he's going to refuse to listen or try to understand.\n\nUltimately, Harleth was fired on Inauguration Day even before the Bidens officially moved into the White House\nSince there was no hired usher at the time of their arrival, the Bidens were greeted with a set of closed doors on the North Portico. Typically, the doors would have been held open for the first family.\n\nI'm sure Donald Trump got some smug satisfaction out of that. \nAs I understood it, the crew was still deep-cleaning the place as per Biden's request. Donald probably tried to stop them from doing their jobs as well.", ">\n\nI’d forgotten about that. A book containing a one sentence description of every horrible/embarrassing/stupid thing trump and his family did in those four years would be too heavy to lift.", ">\n\nI’ve long thought that the number of scandals was part of the problem with the American people realizing how corrupt trump was. No scandal got sufficient coverage because a new one would come up. It’s hard to do the equivalent of Benghazi, Benghazi for years as republicans did when something new comes up nearly every damn day. People didn’t have time to fully understand any of the things he did because he’d do something new. It also didn’t help that the media gave as much attention to an inappropriate tweet as they did to extorting the leader of a foreign nation for political gain. His tweeting was repulsive, but the fact that he picked middle school fights with celebrities hardly compares in significance with obstructing the investigation into the extent of Russia’s involvement in spreading misinformation in the US in order to help trump get elected", ">\n\nThat’s so true. The media is much to blame, but so are Democratic spokespeople, who are so anxious to explain their own “brilliant” unique take on whatever issue is being discussed, they forget that repetition is key to convincing the public. How they were unable to make more hay from the Mueller report is one of the great mysteries of the age. The other is how they failed to capitalize on Biden’s leadership on Ukraine to boost his ratings and their own.", ">\n\nYeah why actually explaining the issues to the American people when empty slogans work better.", ">\n\nPetty little putz, not mention just an asshole.", ">\n\nIf anyone dug into it, I’d wager he killed his own brother", ">\n\nHis father did a pretty good job of that even without any help from Donald.", ">\n\nHe is a 70 year old toddler in mid sugar meltdown 24/7.", ">\n\n76 year old toddler.", ">\n\nI wonder if Americans truly understand the damage this man did to their international credibility. Just the sheer amount of things he did for nothing more than spite made America look petty af\nIt will be a long time before I ever feel I can trust the country again after Trump had my home country (and long time ally to the USA) Canada labeled an official threat to US National security, all so that he could push thru his tariffs against my country without Congress approval. \nCanada is now officially on the records sitting next to the Taliban, Iran nuclear ambitions and Al Quaeda, threats to the United States existence; that's where Trump officially placed us. \nThen he attempts a violent insurrection which he still has yet to see any repurcussions for.... But yet Canada's still on that list", ">\n\nSome of us do. This particular petty thing he did to Canada is bad enough, but when he withdrew from the Paris climate accords and the Iran nuclear deal, he showed the world that the United States couldn’t be trusted to keep its word. If the commitments of the US can’t be trusted to outlast the current administration, why the fuck would any country make any agreements with us? It will take decades of continuous promise keeping to restore the international confidence in our word that Trump causally threw in trash. The maga-morons think trump restored international respect for us. I’m not sure that the damage trump did to this country both internally and internationally can ever be repaired", ">\n\nYou put it far more succinctly than I ever could. I forgot about the Paris agreement, but his backing out of the Iran deal really confused me. If you think they might make nuclear weapons, why destroy the entire agreement that safeguarded against that, essentially letting Iran now do whatever they wanted", ">\n\nBecause Obama negotiated it. Trump tried to undo everything Obama accomplished from shear spite. We elected a temper tantrum throwing toddler as president. There’s no more point in trying to see logic in anything trump did than there is in reasoning with a 2 year old. I have argued and still believe that you could pick any random adult off any street in any town or city in the country and there would be a 90% chance that whoever you got would be a better president than trump. Believe me, some of us realize how much damage he did. But the fact that anyone would vote to re-elect this man, let alone the numbers who did, is a stinging indictment of the intelligence of the American people. At the time, I thought it would be impossible for anyone to be a worst president than Bush, jr., but compared to trump, W was fantastic, and I’d never have believed I’d ever say this if you had told me in 2007 that I would someday say this", ">\n\nHe was still fired and I doubt Melania gave 2 Fs whether the dude got fired 3 weeks to go or three days to go. That whole family AND Stephanie “multiple DUIs” Grisham are scum", ">\n\nFuck trump", ">\n\nHow dare that guy do the job he is paid to do.....", ">\n\nOf all the crap I believe about this man, this one rings total and truthful. Zero doubt in my mind.", ">\n\nNothing is too petty for Trump." ]

[ "That he wanted the dude fired isn't really newsworthy, but how he learned about the usher meeting with Biden is. The Secret Service told him. That means at least one of the Secret Service agents assigned to protect Biden at that time was sharing information he learned while on the job with Trump's people. No wonder there have been reports of Biden being careful of what he says around the Secret Service.", ">\n\nI still don’t understand how Biden hasn’t cleared out the SS.", ">\n\nIt’s a group of very specially skilled, highly trained people. They can’t easily replace the entire detail and even if he did with agents from other areas, there’s no telling that would be any better.\nHis only other good option may be a military detail and that comes with its own host of issues.", ">\n\nHaving a group of specially skilled, highly trained people betraying your interests to work against you sounds like it would be worse than having a less skilled less trained force that is actually loyal.", ">\n\nThat's just choosing between the devil you know and the devil you don't.\nYou can't know what level of exposure you will get with a green member of staff. An experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.", ">\n\n\nAn experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.\n\nAre you seriously suggesting that literal traitors would be better bodyguards for the president than noobs (only relatively speaking, since there are plenty of non-career-USSS folks who have done personal protection duty before) would, because traitors know how to cover their tracks? Or am I radically misunderstanding you? Because if I understood you correctly then that sounds like insanity.\nWe might as well resurrect John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald and have them guard our president. They really knew what they were doing.", ">\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk and not a physical threat to any government worker.\nAny of the agents will also not have the history of a Confederate or a USSR defector respectively.\nThey would need some proof of a threat that they pose, or at least some indication that they are disregarding their duties before replacing them with someone less effective.\nThey are managing a rumor mill.", ">\n\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk\n\nIf it were only infosec that had ever been in question, I might ageee with you. But trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\nAnd also, there’s not really such a thing as only an infosec risk when it comes to presidential security. Intentionally giving information about Biden’s activities to parties you know have hostile intentions toward him obviously poses a physical security risk.\nEdited to remove autocorrect of “infosec” to “informed.”", ">\n\n\nBut trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\n\nIf the agents that made those decisions are still employed that's interesting. If they can't figure out exactly who was progressing the plot that really sucks.\nI don't think they can afford to clean house if this is the case.", ">\n\nTrump never grasped how transition works even though multiple people explained it to him. \nBasically, if Trump really doesn't like something, he's going to refuse to listen or try to understand.\n\nUltimately, Harleth was fired on Inauguration Day even before the Bidens officially moved into the White House\nSince there was no hired usher at the time of their arrival, the Bidens were greeted with a set of closed doors on the North Portico. Typically, the doors would have been held open for the first family.\n\nI'm sure Donald Trump got some smug satisfaction out of that. \nAs I understood it, the crew was still deep-cleaning the place as per Biden's request. Donald probably tried to stop them from doing their jobs as well.", ">\n\nI’d forgotten about that. A book containing a one sentence description of every horrible/embarrassing/stupid thing trump and his family did in those four years would be too heavy to lift.", ">\n\nI’ve long thought that the number of scandals was part of the problem with the American people realizing how corrupt trump was. No scandal got sufficient coverage because a new one would come up. It’s hard to do the equivalent of Benghazi, Benghazi for years as republicans did when something new comes up nearly every damn day. People didn’t have time to fully understand any of the things he did because he’d do something new. It also didn’t help that the media gave as much attention to an inappropriate tweet as they did to extorting the leader of a foreign nation for political gain. His tweeting was repulsive, but the fact that he picked middle school fights with celebrities hardly compares in significance with obstructing the investigation into the extent of Russia’s involvement in spreading misinformation in the US in order to help trump get elected", ">\n\nThat’s so true. The media is much to blame, but so are Democratic spokespeople, who are so anxious to explain their own “brilliant” unique take on whatever issue is being discussed, they forget that repetition is key to convincing the public. How they were unable to make more hay from the Mueller report is one of the great mysteries of the age. The other is how they failed to capitalize on Biden’s leadership on Ukraine to boost his ratings and their own.", ">\n\nYeah why actually explaining the issues to the American people when empty slogans work better.", ">\n\nPetty little putz, not mention just an asshole.", ">\n\nIf anyone dug into it, I’d wager he killed his own brother", ">\n\nHis father did a pretty good job of that even without any help from Donald.", ">\n\nHe is a 70 year old toddler in mid sugar meltdown 24/7.", ">\n\n76 year old toddler.", ">\n\nI wonder if Americans truly understand the damage this man did to their international credibility. Just the sheer amount of things he did for nothing more than spite made America look petty af\nIt will be a long time before I ever feel I can trust the country again after Trump had my home country (and long time ally to the USA) Canada labeled an official threat to US National security, all so that he could push thru his tariffs against my country without Congress approval. \nCanada is now officially on the records sitting next to the Taliban, Iran nuclear ambitions and Al Quaeda, threats to the United States existence; that's where Trump officially placed us. \nThen he attempts a violent insurrection which he still has yet to see any repurcussions for.... But yet Canada's still on that list", ">\n\nSome of us do. This particular petty thing he did to Canada is bad enough, but when he withdrew from the Paris climate accords and the Iran nuclear deal, he showed the world that the United States couldn’t be trusted to keep its word. If the commitments of the US can’t be trusted to outlast the current administration, why the fuck would any country make any agreements with us? It will take decades of continuous promise keeping to restore the international confidence in our word that Trump causally threw in trash. The maga-morons think trump restored international respect for us. I’m not sure that the damage trump did to this country both internally and internationally can ever be repaired", ">\n\nYou put it far more succinctly than I ever could. I forgot about the Paris agreement, but his backing out of the Iran deal really confused me. If you think they might make nuclear weapons, why destroy the entire agreement that safeguarded against that, essentially letting Iran now do whatever they wanted", ">\n\nBecause Obama negotiated it. Trump tried to undo everything Obama accomplished from shear spite. We elected a temper tantrum throwing toddler as president. There’s no more point in trying to see logic in anything trump did than there is in reasoning with a 2 year old. I have argued and still believe that you could pick any random adult off any street in any town or city in the country and there would be a 90% chance that whoever you got would be a better president than trump. Believe me, some of us realize how much damage he did. But the fact that anyone would vote to re-elect this man, let alone the numbers who did, is a stinging indictment of the intelligence of the American people. At the time, I thought it would be impossible for anyone to be a worst president than Bush, jr., but compared to trump, W was fantastic, and I’d never have believed I’d ever say this if you had told me in 2007 that I would someday say this", ">\n\nHe was still fired and I doubt Melania gave 2 Fs whether the dude got fired 3 weeks to go or three days to go. That whole family AND Stephanie “multiple DUIs” Grisham are scum", ">\n\nFuck trump", ">\n\nHow dare that guy do the job he is paid to do.....", ">\n\nOf all the crap I believe about this man, this one rings total and truthful. Zero doubt in my mind.", ">\n\nNothing is too petty for Trump.", ">\n\nSuch a petty piece of shit." ]

[ "That he wanted the dude fired isn't really newsworthy, but how he learned about the usher meeting with Biden is. The Secret Service told him. That means at least one of the Secret Service agents assigned to protect Biden at that time was sharing information he learned while on the job with Trump's people. No wonder there have been reports of Biden being careful of what he says around the Secret Service.", ">\n\nI still don’t understand how Biden hasn’t cleared out the SS.", ">\n\nIt’s a group of very specially skilled, highly trained people. They can’t easily replace the entire detail and even if he did with agents from other areas, there’s no telling that would be any better.\nHis only other good option may be a military detail and that comes with its own host of issues.", ">\n\nHaving a group of specially skilled, highly trained people betraying your interests to work against you sounds like it would be worse than having a less skilled less trained force that is actually loyal.", ">\n\nThat's just choosing between the devil you know and the devil you don't.\nYou can't know what level of exposure you will get with a green member of staff. An experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.", ">\n\n\nAn experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.\n\nAre you seriously suggesting that literal traitors would be better bodyguards for the president than noobs (only relatively speaking, since there are plenty of non-career-USSS folks who have done personal protection duty before) would, because traitors know how to cover their tracks? Or am I radically misunderstanding you? Because if I understood you correctly then that sounds like insanity.\nWe might as well resurrect John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald and have them guard our president. They really knew what they were doing.", ">\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk and not a physical threat to any government worker.\nAny of the agents will also not have the history of a Confederate or a USSR defector respectively.\nThey would need some proof of a threat that they pose, or at least some indication that they are disregarding their duties before replacing them with someone less effective.\nThey are managing a rumor mill.", ">\n\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk\n\nIf it were only infosec that had ever been in question, I might ageee with you. But trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\nAnd also, there’s not really such a thing as only an infosec risk when it comes to presidential security. Intentionally giving information about Biden’s activities to parties you know have hostile intentions toward him obviously poses a physical security risk.\nEdited to remove autocorrect of “infosec” to “informed.”", ">\n\n\nBut trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\n\nIf the agents that made those decisions are still employed that's interesting. If they can't figure out exactly who was progressing the plot that really sucks.\nI don't think they can afford to clean house if this is the case.", ">\n\nTrump never grasped how transition works even though multiple people explained it to him. \nBasically, if Trump really doesn't like something, he's going to refuse to listen or try to understand.\n\nUltimately, Harleth was fired on Inauguration Day even before the Bidens officially moved into the White House\nSince there was no hired usher at the time of their arrival, the Bidens were greeted with a set of closed doors on the North Portico. Typically, the doors would have been held open for the first family.\n\nI'm sure Donald Trump got some smug satisfaction out of that. \nAs I understood it, the crew was still deep-cleaning the place as per Biden's request. Donald probably tried to stop them from doing their jobs as well.", ">\n\nI’d forgotten about that. A book containing a one sentence description of every horrible/embarrassing/stupid thing trump and his family did in those four years would be too heavy to lift.", ">\n\nI’ve long thought that the number of scandals was part of the problem with the American people realizing how corrupt trump was. No scandal got sufficient coverage because a new one would come up. It’s hard to do the equivalent of Benghazi, Benghazi for years as republicans did when something new comes up nearly every damn day. People didn’t have time to fully understand any of the things he did because he’d do something new. It also didn’t help that the media gave as much attention to an inappropriate tweet as they did to extorting the leader of a foreign nation for political gain. His tweeting was repulsive, but the fact that he picked middle school fights with celebrities hardly compares in significance with obstructing the investigation into the extent of Russia’s involvement in spreading misinformation in the US in order to help trump get elected", ">\n\nThat’s so true. The media is much to blame, but so are Democratic spokespeople, who are so anxious to explain their own “brilliant” unique take on whatever issue is being discussed, they forget that repetition is key to convincing the public. How they were unable to make more hay from the Mueller report is one of the great mysteries of the age. The other is how they failed to capitalize on Biden’s leadership on Ukraine to boost his ratings and their own.", ">\n\nYeah why actually explaining the issues to the American people when empty slogans work better.", ">\n\nPetty little putz, not mention just an asshole.", ">\n\nIf anyone dug into it, I’d wager he killed his own brother", ">\n\nHis father did a pretty good job of that even without any help from Donald.", ">\n\nHe is a 70 year old toddler in mid sugar meltdown 24/7.", ">\n\n76 year old toddler.", ">\n\nI wonder if Americans truly understand the damage this man did to their international credibility. Just the sheer amount of things he did for nothing more than spite made America look petty af\nIt will be a long time before I ever feel I can trust the country again after Trump had my home country (and long time ally to the USA) Canada labeled an official threat to US National security, all so that he could push thru his tariffs against my country without Congress approval. \nCanada is now officially on the records sitting next to the Taliban, Iran nuclear ambitions and Al Quaeda, threats to the United States existence; that's where Trump officially placed us. \nThen he attempts a violent insurrection which he still has yet to see any repurcussions for.... But yet Canada's still on that list", ">\n\nSome of us do. This particular petty thing he did to Canada is bad enough, but when he withdrew from the Paris climate accords and the Iran nuclear deal, he showed the world that the United States couldn’t be trusted to keep its word. If the commitments of the US can’t be trusted to outlast the current administration, why the fuck would any country make any agreements with us? It will take decades of continuous promise keeping to restore the international confidence in our word that Trump causally threw in trash. The maga-morons think trump restored international respect for us. I’m not sure that the damage trump did to this country both internally and internationally can ever be repaired", ">\n\nYou put it far more succinctly than I ever could. I forgot about the Paris agreement, but his backing out of the Iran deal really confused me. If you think they might make nuclear weapons, why destroy the entire agreement that safeguarded against that, essentially letting Iran now do whatever they wanted", ">\n\nBecause Obama negotiated it. Trump tried to undo everything Obama accomplished from shear spite. We elected a temper tantrum throwing toddler as president. There’s no more point in trying to see logic in anything trump did than there is in reasoning with a 2 year old. I have argued and still believe that you could pick any random adult off any street in any town or city in the country and there would be a 90% chance that whoever you got would be a better president than trump. Believe me, some of us realize how much damage he did. But the fact that anyone would vote to re-elect this man, let alone the numbers who did, is a stinging indictment of the intelligence of the American people. At the time, I thought it would be impossible for anyone to be a worst president than Bush, jr., but compared to trump, W was fantastic, and I’d never have believed I’d ever say this if you had told me in 2007 that I would someday say this", ">\n\nHe was still fired and I doubt Melania gave 2 Fs whether the dude got fired 3 weeks to go or three days to go. That whole family AND Stephanie “multiple DUIs” Grisham are scum", ">\n\nFuck trump", ">\n\nHow dare that guy do the job he is paid to do.....", ">\n\nOf all the crap I believe about this man, this one rings total and truthful. Zero doubt in my mind.", ">\n\nNothing is too petty for Trump.", ">\n\nSuch a petty piece of shit.", ">\n\nThe pettiness is just mind-boggling. No respect for anyone" ]

[ "That he wanted the dude fired isn't really newsworthy, but how he learned about the usher meeting with Biden is. The Secret Service told him. That means at least one of the Secret Service agents assigned to protect Biden at that time was sharing information he learned while on the job with Trump's people. No wonder there have been reports of Biden being careful of what he says around the Secret Service.", ">\n\nI still don’t understand how Biden hasn’t cleared out the SS.", ">\n\nIt’s a group of very specially skilled, highly trained people. They can’t easily replace the entire detail and even if he did with agents from other areas, there’s no telling that would be any better.\nHis only other good option may be a military detail and that comes with its own host of issues.", ">\n\nHaving a group of specially skilled, highly trained people betraying your interests to work against you sounds like it would be worse than having a less skilled less trained force that is actually loyal.", ">\n\nThat's just choosing between the devil you know and the devil you don't.\nYou can't know what level of exposure you will get with a green member of staff. An experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.", ">\n\n\nAn experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.\n\nAre you seriously suggesting that literal traitors would be better bodyguards for the president than noobs (only relatively speaking, since there are plenty of non-career-USSS folks who have done personal protection duty before) would, because traitors know how to cover their tracks? Or am I radically misunderstanding you? Because if I understood you correctly then that sounds like insanity.\nWe might as well resurrect John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald and have them guard our president. They really knew what they were doing.", ">\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk and not a physical threat to any government worker.\nAny of the agents will also not have the history of a Confederate or a USSR defector respectively.\nThey would need some proof of a threat that they pose, or at least some indication that they are disregarding their duties before replacing them with someone less effective.\nThey are managing a rumor mill.", ">\n\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk\n\nIf it were only infosec that had ever been in question, I might ageee with you. But trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\nAnd also, there’s not really such a thing as only an infosec risk when it comes to presidential security. Intentionally giving information about Biden’s activities to parties you know have hostile intentions toward him obviously poses a physical security risk.\nEdited to remove autocorrect of “infosec” to “informed.”", ">\n\n\nBut trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\n\nIf the agents that made those decisions are still employed that's interesting. If they can't figure out exactly who was progressing the plot that really sucks.\nI don't think they can afford to clean house if this is the case.", ">\n\nTrump never grasped how transition works even though multiple people explained it to him. \nBasically, if Trump really doesn't like something, he's going to refuse to listen or try to understand.\n\nUltimately, Harleth was fired on Inauguration Day even before the Bidens officially moved into the White House\nSince there was no hired usher at the time of their arrival, the Bidens were greeted with a set of closed doors on the North Portico. Typically, the doors would have been held open for the first family.\n\nI'm sure Donald Trump got some smug satisfaction out of that. \nAs I understood it, the crew was still deep-cleaning the place as per Biden's request. Donald probably tried to stop them from doing their jobs as well.", ">\n\nI’d forgotten about that. A book containing a one sentence description of every horrible/embarrassing/stupid thing trump and his family did in those four years would be too heavy to lift.", ">\n\nI’ve long thought that the number of scandals was part of the problem with the American people realizing how corrupt trump was. No scandal got sufficient coverage because a new one would come up. It’s hard to do the equivalent of Benghazi, Benghazi for years as republicans did when something new comes up nearly every damn day. People didn’t have time to fully understand any of the things he did because he’d do something new. It also didn’t help that the media gave as much attention to an inappropriate tweet as they did to extorting the leader of a foreign nation for political gain. His tweeting was repulsive, but the fact that he picked middle school fights with celebrities hardly compares in significance with obstructing the investigation into the extent of Russia’s involvement in spreading misinformation in the US in order to help trump get elected", ">\n\nThat’s so true. The media is much to blame, but so are Democratic spokespeople, who are so anxious to explain their own “brilliant” unique take on whatever issue is being discussed, they forget that repetition is key to convincing the public. How they were unable to make more hay from the Mueller report is one of the great mysteries of the age. The other is how they failed to capitalize on Biden’s leadership on Ukraine to boost his ratings and their own.", ">\n\nYeah why actually explaining the issues to the American people when empty slogans work better.", ">\n\nPetty little putz, not mention just an asshole.", ">\n\nIf anyone dug into it, I’d wager he killed his own brother", ">\n\nHis father did a pretty good job of that even without any help from Donald.", ">\n\nHe is a 70 year old toddler in mid sugar meltdown 24/7.", ">\n\n76 year old toddler.", ">\n\nI wonder if Americans truly understand the damage this man did to their international credibility. Just the sheer amount of things he did for nothing more than spite made America look petty af\nIt will be a long time before I ever feel I can trust the country again after Trump had my home country (and long time ally to the USA) Canada labeled an official threat to US National security, all so that he could push thru his tariffs against my country without Congress approval. \nCanada is now officially on the records sitting next to the Taliban, Iran nuclear ambitions and Al Quaeda, threats to the United States existence; that's where Trump officially placed us. \nThen he attempts a violent insurrection which he still has yet to see any repurcussions for.... But yet Canada's still on that list", ">\n\nSome of us do. This particular petty thing he did to Canada is bad enough, but when he withdrew from the Paris climate accords and the Iran nuclear deal, he showed the world that the United States couldn’t be trusted to keep its word. If the commitments of the US can’t be trusted to outlast the current administration, why the fuck would any country make any agreements with us? It will take decades of continuous promise keeping to restore the international confidence in our word that Trump causally threw in trash. The maga-morons think trump restored international respect for us. I’m not sure that the damage trump did to this country both internally and internationally can ever be repaired", ">\n\nYou put it far more succinctly than I ever could. I forgot about the Paris agreement, but his backing out of the Iran deal really confused me. If you think they might make nuclear weapons, why destroy the entire agreement that safeguarded against that, essentially letting Iran now do whatever they wanted", ">\n\nBecause Obama negotiated it. Trump tried to undo everything Obama accomplished from shear spite. We elected a temper tantrum throwing toddler as president. There’s no more point in trying to see logic in anything trump did than there is in reasoning with a 2 year old. I have argued and still believe that you could pick any random adult off any street in any town or city in the country and there would be a 90% chance that whoever you got would be a better president than trump. Believe me, some of us realize how much damage he did. But the fact that anyone would vote to re-elect this man, let alone the numbers who did, is a stinging indictment of the intelligence of the American people. At the time, I thought it would be impossible for anyone to be a worst president than Bush, jr., but compared to trump, W was fantastic, and I’d never have believed I’d ever say this if you had told me in 2007 that I would someday say this", ">\n\nHe was still fired and I doubt Melania gave 2 Fs whether the dude got fired 3 weeks to go or three days to go. That whole family AND Stephanie “multiple DUIs” Grisham are scum", ">\n\nFuck trump", ">\n\nHow dare that guy do the job he is paid to do.....", ">\n\nOf all the crap I believe about this man, this one rings total and truthful. Zero doubt in my mind.", ">\n\nNothing is too petty for Trump.", ">\n\nSuch a petty piece of shit.", ">\n\nThe pettiness is just mind-boggling. No respect for anyone", ">\n\nLeave Usher alone!" ]

[ "That he wanted the dude fired isn't really newsworthy, but how he learned about the usher meeting with Biden is. The Secret Service told him. That means at least one of the Secret Service agents assigned to protect Biden at that time was sharing information he learned while on the job with Trump's people. No wonder there have been reports of Biden being careful of what he says around the Secret Service.", ">\n\nI still don’t understand how Biden hasn’t cleared out the SS.", ">\n\nIt’s a group of very specially skilled, highly trained people. They can’t easily replace the entire detail and even if he did with agents from other areas, there’s no telling that would be any better.\nHis only other good option may be a military detail and that comes with its own host of issues.", ">\n\nHaving a group of specially skilled, highly trained people betraying your interests to work against you sounds like it would be worse than having a less skilled less trained force that is actually loyal.", ">\n\nThat's just choosing between the devil you know and the devil you don't.\nYou can't know what level of exposure you will get with a green member of staff. An experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.", ">\n\n\nAn experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.\n\nAre you seriously suggesting that literal traitors would be better bodyguards for the president than noobs (only relatively speaking, since there are plenty of non-career-USSS folks who have done personal protection duty before) would, because traitors know how to cover their tracks? Or am I radically misunderstanding you? Because if I understood you correctly then that sounds like insanity.\nWe might as well resurrect John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald and have them guard our president. They really knew what they were doing.", ">\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk and not a physical threat to any government worker.\nAny of the agents will also not have the history of a Confederate or a USSR defector respectively.\nThey would need some proof of a threat that they pose, or at least some indication that they are disregarding their duties before replacing them with someone less effective.\nThey are managing a rumor mill.", ">\n\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk\n\nIf it were only infosec that had ever been in question, I might ageee with you. But trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\nAnd also, there’s not really such a thing as only an infosec risk when it comes to presidential security. Intentionally giving information about Biden’s activities to parties you know have hostile intentions toward him obviously poses a physical security risk.\nEdited to remove autocorrect of “infosec” to “informed.”", ">\n\n\nBut trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\n\nIf the agents that made those decisions are still employed that's interesting. If they can't figure out exactly who was progressing the plot that really sucks.\nI don't think they can afford to clean house if this is the case.", ">\n\nTrump never grasped how transition works even though multiple people explained it to him. \nBasically, if Trump really doesn't like something, he's going to refuse to listen or try to understand.\n\nUltimately, Harleth was fired on Inauguration Day even before the Bidens officially moved into the White House\nSince there was no hired usher at the time of their arrival, the Bidens were greeted with a set of closed doors on the North Portico. Typically, the doors would have been held open for the first family.\n\nI'm sure Donald Trump got some smug satisfaction out of that. \nAs I understood it, the crew was still deep-cleaning the place as per Biden's request. Donald probably tried to stop them from doing their jobs as well.", ">\n\nI’d forgotten about that. A book containing a one sentence description of every horrible/embarrassing/stupid thing trump and his family did in those four years would be too heavy to lift.", ">\n\nI’ve long thought that the number of scandals was part of the problem with the American people realizing how corrupt trump was. No scandal got sufficient coverage because a new one would come up. It’s hard to do the equivalent of Benghazi, Benghazi for years as republicans did when something new comes up nearly every damn day. People didn’t have time to fully understand any of the things he did because he’d do something new. It also didn’t help that the media gave as much attention to an inappropriate tweet as they did to extorting the leader of a foreign nation for political gain. His tweeting was repulsive, but the fact that he picked middle school fights with celebrities hardly compares in significance with obstructing the investigation into the extent of Russia’s involvement in spreading misinformation in the US in order to help trump get elected", ">\n\nThat’s so true. The media is much to blame, but so are Democratic spokespeople, who are so anxious to explain their own “brilliant” unique take on whatever issue is being discussed, they forget that repetition is key to convincing the public. How they were unable to make more hay from the Mueller report is one of the great mysteries of the age. The other is how they failed to capitalize on Biden’s leadership on Ukraine to boost his ratings and their own.", ">\n\nYeah why actually explaining the issues to the American people when empty slogans work better.", ">\n\nPetty little putz, not mention just an asshole.", ">\n\nIf anyone dug into it, I’d wager he killed his own brother", ">\n\nHis father did a pretty good job of that even without any help from Donald.", ">\n\nHe is a 70 year old toddler in mid sugar meltdown 24/7.", ">\n\n76 year old toddler.", ">\n\nI wonder if Americans truly understand the damage this man did to their international credibility. Just the sheer amount of things he did for nothing more than spite made America look petty af\nIt will be a long time before I ever feel I can trust the country again after Trump had my home country (and long time ally to the USA) Canada labeled an official threat to US National security, all so that he could push thru his tariffs against my country without Congress approval. \nCanada is now officially on the records sitting next to the Taliban, Iran nuclear ambitions and Al Quaeda, threats to the United States existence; that's where Trump officially placed us. \nThen he attempts a violent insurrection which he still has yet to see any repurcussions for.... But yet Canada's still on that list", ">\n\nSome of us do. This particular petty thing he did to Canada is bad enough, but when he withdrew from the Paris climate accords and the Iran nuclear deal, he showed the world that the United States couldn’t be trusted to keep its word. If the commitments of the US can’t be trusted to outlast the current administration, why the fuck would any country make any agreements with us? It will take decades of continuous promise keeping to restore the international confidence in our word that Trump causally threw in trash. The maga-morons think trump restored international respect for us. I’m not sure that the damage trump did to this country both internally and internationally can ever be repaired", ">\n\nYou put it far more succinctly than I ever could. I forgot about the Paris agreement, but his backing out of the Iran deal really confused me. If you think they might make nuclear weapons, why destroy the entire agreement that safeguarded against that, essentially letting Iran now do whatever they wanted", ">\n\nBecause Obama negotiated it. Trump tried to undo everything Obama accomplished from shear spite. We elected a temper tantrum throwing toddler as president. There’s no more point in trying to see logic in anything trump did than there is in reasoning with a 2 year old. I have argued and still believe that you could pick any random adult off any street in any town or city in the country and there would be a 90% chance that whoever you got would be a better president than trump. Believe me, some of us realize how much damage he did. But the fact that anyone would vote to re-elect this man, let alone the numbers who did, is a stinging indictment of the intelligence of the American people. At the time, I thought it would be impossible for anyone to be a worst president than Bush, jr., but compared to trump, W was fantastic, and I’d never have believed I’d ever say this if you had told me in 2007 that I would someday say this", ">\n\nHe was still fired and I doubt Melania gave 2 Fs whether the dude got fired 3 weeks to go or three days to go. That whole family AND Stephanie “multiple DUIs” Grisham are scum", ">\n\nFuck trump", ">\n\nHow dare that guy do the job he is paid to do.....", ">\n\nOf all the crap I believe about this man, this one rings total and truthful. Zero doubt in my mind.", ">\n\nNothing is too petty for Trump.", ">\n\nSuch a petty piece of shit.", ">\n\nThe pettiness is just mind-boggling. No respect for anyone", ">\n\nLeave Usher alone!", ">\n\nSuch a crass tacky uncouth person. Ugh" ]

[ "That he wanted the dude fired isn't really newsworthy, but how he learned about the usher meeting with Biden is. The Secret Service told him. That means at least one of the Secret Service agents assigned to protect Biden at that time was sharing information he learned while on the job with Trump's people. No wonder there have been reports of Biden being careful of what he says around the Secret Service.", ">\n\nI still don’t understand how Biden hasn’t cleared out the SS.", ">\n\nIt’s a group of very specially skilled, highly trained people. They can’t easily replace the entire detail and even if he did with agents from other areas, there’s no telling that would be any better.\nHis only other good option may be a military detail and that comes with its own host of issues.", ">\n\nHaving a group of specially skilled, highly trained people betraying your interests to work against you sounds like it would be worse than having a less skilled less trained force that is actually loyal.", ">\n\nThat's just choosing between the devil you know and the devil you don't.\nYou can't know what level of exposure you will get with a green member of staff. An experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.", ">\n\n\nAn experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.\n\nAre you seriously suggesting that literal traitors would be better bodyguards for the president than noobs (only relatively speaking, since there are plenty of non-career-USSS folks who have done personal protection duty before) would, because traitors know how to cover their tracks? Or am I radically misunderstanding you? Because if I understood you correctly then that sounds like insanity.\nWe might as well resurrect John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald and have them guard our president. They really knew what they were doing.", ">\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk and not a physical threat to any government worker.\nAny of the agents will also not have the history of a Confederate or a USSR defector respectively.\nThey would need some proof of a threat that they pose, or at least some indication that they are disregarding their duties before replacing them with someone less effective.\nThey are managing a rumor mill.", ">\n\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk\n\nIf it were only infosec that had ever been in question, I might ageee with you. But trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\nAnd also, there’s not really such a thing as only an infosec risk when it comes to presidential security. Intentionally giving information about Biden’s activities to parties you know have hostile intentions toward him obviously poses a physical security risk.\nEdited to remove autocorrect of “infosec” to “informed.”", ">\n\n\nBut trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\n\nIf the agents that made those decisions are still employed that's interesting. If they can't figure out exactly who was progressing the plot that really sucks.\nI don't think they can afford to clean house if this is the case.", ">\n\nTrump never grasped how transition works even though multiple people explained it to him. \nBasically, if Trump really doesn't like something, he's going to refuse to listen or try to understand.\n\nUltimately, Harleth was fired on Inauguration Day even before the Bidens officially moved into the White House\nSince there was no hired usher at the time of their arrival, the Bidens were greeted with a set of closed doors on the North Portico. Typically, the doors would have been held open for the first family.\n\nI'm sure Donald Trump got some smug satisfaction out of that. \nAs I understood it, the crew was still deep-cleaning the place as per Biden's request. Donald probably tried to stop them from doing their jobs as well.", ">\n\nI’d forgotten about that. A book containing a one sentence description of every horrible/embarrassing/stupid thing trump and his family did in those four years would be too heavy to lift.", ">\n\nI’ve long thought that the number of scandals was part of the problem with the American people realizing how corrupt trump was. No scandal got sufficient coverage because a new one would come up. It’s hard to do the equivalent of Benghazi, Benghazi for years as republicans did when something new comes up nearly every damn day. People didn’t have time to fully understand any of the things he did because he’d do something new. It also didn’t help that the media gave as much attention to an inappropriate tweet as they did to extorting the leader of a foreign nation for political gain. His tweeting was repulsive, but the fact that he picked middle school fights with celebrities hardly compares in significance with obstructing the investigation into the extent of Russia’s involvement in spreading misinformation in the US in order to help trump get elected", ">\n\nThat’s so true. The media is much to blame, but so are Democratic spokespeople, who are so anxious to explain their own “brilliant” unique take on whatever issue is being discussed, they forget that repetition is key to convincing the public. How they were unable to make more hay from the Mueller report is one of the great mysteries of the age. The other is how they failed to capitalize on Biden’s leadership on Ukraine to boost his ratings and their own.", ">\n\nYeah why actually explaining the issues to the American people when empty slogans work better.", ">\n\nPetty little putz, not mention just an asshole.", ">\n\nIf anyone dug into it, I’d wager he killed his own brother", ">\n\nHis father did a pretty good job of that even without any help from Donald.", ">\n\nHe is a 70 year old toddler in mid sugar meltdown 24/7.", ">\n\n76 year old toddler.", ">\n\nI wonder if Americans truly understand the damage this man did to their international credibility. Just the sheer amount of things he did for nothing more than spite made America look petty af\nIt will be a long time before I ever feel I can trust the country again after Trump had my home country (and long time ally to the USA) Canada labeled an official threat to US National security, all so that he could push thru his tariffs against my country without Congress approval. \nCanada is now officially on the records sitting next to the Taliban, Iran nuclear ambitions and Al Quaeda, threats to the United States existence; that's where Trump officially placed us. \nThen he attempts a violent insurrection which he still has yet to see any repurcussions for.... But yet Canada's still on that list", ">\n\nSome of us do. This particular petty thing he did to Canada is bad enough, but when he withdrew from the Paris climate accords and the Iran nuclear deal, he showed the world that the United States couldn’t be trusted to keep its word. If the commitments of the US can’t be trusted to outlast the current administration, why the fuck would any country make any agreements with us? It will take decades of continuous promise keeping to restore the international confidence in our word that Trump causally threw in trash. The maga-morons think trump restored international respect for us. I’m not sure that the damage trump did to this country both internally and internationally can ever be repaired", ">\n\nYou put it far more succinctly than I ever could. I forgot about the Paris agreement, but his backing out of the Iran deal really confused me. If you think they might make nuclear weapons, why destroy the entire agreement that safeguarded against that, essentially letting Iran now do whatever they wanted", ">\n\nBecause Obama negotiated it. Trump tried to undo everything Obama accomplished from shear spite. We elected a temper tantrum throwing toddler as president. There’s no more point in trying to see logic in anything trump did than there is in reasoning with a 2 year old. I have argued and still believe that you could pick any random adult off any street in any town or city in the country and there would be a 90% chance that whoever you got would be a better president than trump. Believe me, some of us realize how much damage he did. But the fact that anyone would vote to re-elect this man, let alone the numbers who did, is a stinging indictment of the intelligence of the American people. At the time, I thought it would be impossible for anyone to be a worst president than Bush, jr., but compared to trump, W was fantastic, and I’d never have believed I’d ever say this if you had told me in 2007 that I would someday say this", ">\n\nHe was still fired and I doubt Melania gave 2 Fs whether the dude got fired 3 weeks to go or three days to go. That whole family AND Stephanie “multiple DUIs” Grisham are scum", ">\n\nFuck trump", ">\n\nHow dare that guy do the job he is paid to do.....", ">\n\nOf all the crap I believe about this man, this one rings total and truthful. Zero doubt in my mind.", ">\n\nNothing is too petty for Trump.", ">\n\nSuch a petty piece of shit.", ">\n\nThe pettiness is just mind-boggling. No respect for anyone", ">\n\nLeave Usher alone!", ">\n\nSuch a crass tacky uncouth person. Ugh", ">\n\nThis is full-on temper tantrum." ]

[ "That he wanted the dude fired isn't really newsworthy, but how he learned about the usher meeting with Biden is. The Secret Service told him. That means at least one of the Secret Service agents assigned to protect Biden at that time was sharing information he learned while on the job with Trump's people. No wonder there have been reports of Biden being careful of what he says around the Secret Service.", ">\n\nI still don’t understand how Biden hasn’t cleared out the SS.", ">\n\nIt’s a group of very specially skilled, highly trained people. They can’t easily replace the entire detail and even if he did with agents from other areas, there’s no telling that would be any better.\nHis only other good option may be a military detail and that comes with its own host of issues.", ">\n\nHaving a group of specially skilled, highly trained people betraying your interests to work against you sounds like it would be worse than having a less skilled less trained force that is actually loyal.", ">\n\nThat's just choosing between the devil you know and the devil you don't.\nYou can't know what level of exposure you will get with a green member of staff. An experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.", ">\n\n\nAn experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.\n\nAre you seriously suggesting that literal traitors would be better bodyguards for the president than noobs (only relatively speaking, since there are plenty of non-career-USSS folks who have done personal protection duty before) would, because traitors know how to cover their tracks? Or am I radically misunderstanding you? Because if I understood you correctly then that sounds like insanity.\nWe might as well resurrect John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald and have them guard our president. They really knew what they were doing.", ">\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk and not a physical threat to any government worker.\nAny of the agents will also not have the history of a Confederate or a USSR defector respectively.\nThey would need some proof of a threat that they pose, or at least some indication that they are disregarding their duties before replacing them with someone less effective.\nThey are managing a rumor mill.", ">\n\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk\n\nIf it were only infosec that had ever been in question, I might ageee with you. But trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\nAnd also, there’s not really such a thing as only an infosec risk when it comes to presidential security. Intentionally giving information about Biden’s activities to parties you know have hostile intentions toward him obviously poses a physical security risk.\nEdited to remove autocorrect of “infosec” to “informed.”", ">\n\n\nBut trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\n\nIf the agents that made those decisions are still employed that's interesting. If they can't figure out exactly who was progressing the plot that really sucks.\nI don't think they can afford to clean house if this is the case.", ">\n\nTrump never grasped how transition works even though multiple people explained it to him. \nBasically, if Trump really doesn't like something, he's going to refuse to listen or try to understand.\n\nUltimately, Harleth was fired on Inauguration Day even before the Bidens officially moved into the White House\nSince there was no hired usher at the time of their arrival, the Bidens were greeted with a set of closed doors on the North Portico. Typically, the doors would have been held open for the first family.\n\nI'm sure Donald Trump got some smug satisfaction out of that. \nAs I understood it, the crew was still deep-cleaning the place as per Biden's request. Donald probably tried to stop them from doing their jobs as well.", ">\n\nI’d forgotten about that. A book containing a one sentence description of every horrible/embarrassing/stupid thing trump and his family did in those four years would be too heavy to lift.", ">\n\nI’ve long thought that the number of scandals was part of the problem with the American people realizing how corrupt trump was. No scandal got sufficient coverage because a new one would come up. It’s hard to do the equivalent of Benghazi, Benghazi for years as republicans did when something new comes up nearly every damn day. People didn’t have time to fully understand any of the things he did because he’d do something new. It also didn’t help that the media gave as much attention to an inappropriate tweet as they did to extorting the leader of a foreign nation for political gain. His tweeting was repulsive, but the fact that he picked middle school fights with celebrities hardly compares in significance with obstructing the investigation into the extent of Russia’s involvement in spreading misinformation in the US in order to help trump get elected", ">\n\nThat’s so true. The media is much to blame, but so are Democratic spokespeople, who are so anxious to explain their own “brilliant” unique take on whatever issue is being discussed, they forget that repetition is key to convincing the public. How they were unable to make more hay from the Mueller report is one of the great mysteries of the age. The other is how they failed to capitalize on Biden’s leadership on Ukraine to boost his ratings and their own.", ">\n\nYeah why actually explaining the issues to the American people when empty slogans work better.", ">\n\nPetty little putz, not mention just an asshole.", ">\n\nIf anyone dug into it, I’d wager he killed his own brother", ">\n\nHis father did a pretty good job of that even without any help from Donald.", ">\n\nHe is a 70 year old toddler in mid sugar meltdown 24/7.", ">\n\n76 year old toddler.", ">\n\nI wonder if Americans truly understand the damage this man did to their international credibility. Just the sheer amount of things he did for nothing more than spite made America look petty af\nIt will be a long time before I ever feel I can trust the country again after Trump had my home country (and long time ally to the USA) Canada labeled an official threat to US National security, all so that he could push thru his tariffs against my country without Congress approval. \nCanada is now officially on the records sitting next to the Taliban, Iran nuclear ambitions and Al Quaeda, threats to the United States existence; that's where Trump officially placed us. \nThen he attempts a violent insurrection which he still has yet to see any repurcussions for.... But yet Canada's still on that list", ">\n\nSome of us do. This particular petty thing he did to Canada is bad enough, but when he withdrew from the Paris climate accords and the Iran nuclear deal, he showed the world that the United States couldn’t be trusted to keep its word. If the commitments of the US can’t be trusted to outlast the current administration, why the fuck would any country make any agreements with us? It will take decades of continuous promise keeping to restore the international confidence in our word that Trump causally threw in trash. The maga-morons think trump restored international respect for us. I’m not sure that the damage trump did to this country both internally and internationally can ever be repaired", ">\n\nYou put it far more succinctly than I ever could. I forgot about the Paris agreement, but his backing out of the Iran deal really confused me. If you think they might make nuclear weapons, why destroy the entire agreement that safeguarded against that, essentially letting Iran now do whatever they wanted", ">\n\nBecause Obama negotiated it. Trump tried to undo everything Obama accomplished from shear spite. We elected a temper tantrum throwing toddler as president. There’s no more point in trying to see logic in anything trump did than there is in reasoning with a 2 year old. I have argued and still believe that you could pick any random adult off any street in any town or city in the country and there would be a 90% chance that whoever you got would be a better president than trump. Believe me, some of us realize how much damage he did. But the fact that anyone would vote to re-elect this man, let alone the numbers who did, is a stinging indictment of the intelligence of the American people. At the time, I thought it would be impossible for anyone to be a worst president than Bush, jr., but compared to trump, W was fantastic, and I’d never have believed I’d ever say this if you had told me in 2007 that I would someday say this", ">\n\nHe was still fired and I doubt Melania gave 2 Fs whether the dude got fired 3 weeks to go or three days to go. That whole family AND Stephanie “multiple DUIs” Grisham are scum", ">\n\nFuck trump", ">\n\nHow dare that guy do the job he is paid to do.....", ">\n\nOf all the crap I believe about this man, this one rings total and truthful. Zero doubt in my mind.", ">\n\nNothing is too petty for Trump.", ">\n\nSuch a petty piece of shit.", ">\n\nThe pettiness is just mind-boggling. No respect for anyone", ">\n\nLeave Usher alone!", ">\n\nSuch a crass tacky uncouth person. Ugh", ">\n\nThis is full-on temper tantrum.", ">\n\nTrump is a fucking asshole." ]

[ "That he wanted the dude fired isn't really newsworthy, but how he learned about the usher meeting with Biden is. The Secret Service told him. That means at least one of the Secret Service agents assigned to protect Biden at that time was sharing information he learned while on the job with Trump's people. No wonder there have been reports of Biden being careful of what he says around the Secret Service.", ">\n\nI still don’t understand how Biden hasn’t cleared out the SS.", ">\n\nIt’s a group of very specially skilled, highly trained people. They can’t easily replace the entire detail and even if he did with agents from other areas, there’s no telling that would be any better.\nHis only other good option may be a military detail and that comes with its own host of issues.", ">\n\nHaving a group of specially skilled, highly trained people betraying your interests to work against you sounds like it would be worse than having a less skilled less trained force that is actually loyal.", ">\n\nThat's just choosing between the devil you know and the devil you don't.\nYou can't know what level of exposure you will get with a green member of staff. An experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.", ">\n\n\nAn experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.\n\nAre you seriously suggesting that literal traitors would be better bodyguards for the president than noobs (only relatively speaking, since there are plenty of non-career-USSS folks who have done personal protection duty before) would, because traitors know how to cover their tracks? Or am I radically misunderstanding you? Because if I understood you correctly then that sounds like insanity.\nWe might as well resurrect John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald and have them guard our president. They really knew what they were doing.", ">\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk and not a physical threat to any government worker.\nAny of the agents will also not have the history of a Confederate or a USSR defector respectively.\nThey would need some proof of a threat that they pose, or at least some indication that they are disregarding their duties before replacing them with someone less effective.\nThey are managing a rumor mill.", ">\n\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk\n\nIf it were only infosec that had ever been in question, I might ageee with you. But trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\nAnd also, there’s not really such a thing as only an infosec risk when it comes to presidential security. Intentionally giving information about Biden’s activities to parties you know have hostile intentions toward him obviously poses a physical security risk.\nEdited to remove autocorrect of “infosec” to “informed.”", ">\n\n\nBut trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\n\nIf the agents that made those decisions are still employed that's interesting. If they can't figure out exactly who was progressing the plot that really sucks.\nI don't think they can afford to clean house if this is the case.", ">\n\nTrump never grasped how transition works even though multiple people explained it to him. \nBasically, if Trump really doesn't like something, he's going to refuse to listen or try to understand.\n\nUltimately, Harleth was fired on Inauguration Day even before the Bidens officially moved into the White House\nSince there was no hired usher at the time of their arrival, the Bidens were greeted with a set of closed doors on the North Portico. Typically, the doors would have been held open for the first family.\n\nI'm sure Donald Trump got some smug satisfaction out of that. \nAs I understood it, the crew was still deep-cleaning the place as per Biden's request. Donald probably tried to stop them from doing their jobs as well.", ">\n\nI’d forgotten about that. A book containing a one sentence description of every horrible/embarrassing/stupid thing trump and his family did in those four years would be too heavy to lift.", ">\n\nI’ve long thought that the number of scandals was part of the problem with the American people realizing how corrupt trump was. No scandal got sufficient coverage because a new one would come up. It’s hard to do the equivalent of Benghazi, Benghazi for years as republicans did when something new comes up nearly every damn day. People didn’t have time to fully understand any of the things he did because he’d do something new. It also didn’t help that the media gave as much attention to an inappropriate tweet as they did to extorting the leader of a foreign nation for political gain. His tweeting was repulsive, but the fact that he picked middle school fights with celebrities hardly compares in significance with obstructing the investigation into the extent of Russia’s involvement in spreading misinformation in the US in order to help trump get elected", ">\n\nThat’s so true. The media is much to blame, but so are Democratic spokespeople, who are so anxious to explain their own “brilliant” unique take on whatever issue is being discussed, they forget that repetition is key to convincing the public. How they were unable to make more hay from the Mueller report is one of the great mysteries of the age. The other is how they failed to capitalize on Biden’s leadership on Ukraine to boost his ratings and their own.", ">\n\nYeah why actually explaining the issues to the American people when empty slogans work better.", ">\n\nPetty little putz, not mention just an asshole.", ">\n\nIf anyone dug into it, I’d wager he killed his own brother", ">\n\nHis father did a pretty good job of that even without any help from Donald.", ">\n\nHe is a 70 year old toddler in mid sugar meltdown 24/7.", ">\n\n76 year old toddler.", ">\n\nI wonder if Americans truly understand the damage this man did to their international credibility. Just the sheer amount of things he did for nothing more than spite made America look petty af\nIt will be a long time before I ever feel I can trust the country again after Trump had my home country (and long time ally to the USA) Canada labeled an official threat to US National security, all so that he could push thru his tariffs against my country without Congress approval. \nCanada is now officially on the records sitting next to the Taliban, Iran nuclear ambitions and Al Quaeda, threats to the United States existence; that's where Trump officially placed us. \nThen he attempts a violent insurrection which he still has yet to see any repurcussions for.... But yet Canada's still on that list", ">\n\nSome of us do. This particular petty thing he did to Canada is bad enough, but when he withdrew from the Paris climate accords and the Iran nuclear deal, he showed the world that the United States couldn’t be trusted to keep its word. If the commitments of the US can’t be trusted to outlast the current administration, why the fuck would any country make any agreements with us? It will take decades of continuous promise keeping to restore the international confidence in our word that Trump causally threw in trash. The maga-morons think trump restored international respect for us. I’m not sure that the damage trump did to this country both internally and internationally can ever be repaired", ">\n\nYou put it far more succinctly than I ever could. I forgot about the Paris agreement, but his backing out of the Iran deal really confused me. If you think they might make nuclear weapons, why destroy the entire agreement that safeguarded against that, essentially letting Iran now do whatever they wanted", ">\n\nBecause Obama negotiated it. Trump tried to undo everything Obama accomplished from shear spite. We elected a temper tantrum throwing toddler as president. There’s no more point in trying to see logic in anything trump did than there is in reasoning with a 2 year old. I have argued and still believe that you could pick any random adult off any street in any town or city in the country and there would be a 90% chance that whoever you got would be a better president than trump. Believe me, some of us realize how much damage he did. But the fact that anyone would vote to re-elect this man, let alone the numbers who did, is a stinging indictment of the intelligence of the American people. At the time, I thought it would be impossible for anyone to be a worst president than Bush, jr., but compared to trump, W was fantastic, and I’d never have believed I’d ever say this if you had told me in 2007 that I would someday say this", ">\n\nHe was still fired and I doubt Melania gave 2 Fs whether the dude got fired 3 weeks to go or three days to go. That whole family AND Stephanie “multiple DUIs” Grisham are scum", ">\n\nFuck trump", ">\n\nHow dare that guy do the job he is paid to do.....", ">\n\nOf all the crap I believe about this man, this one rings total and truthful. Zero doubt in my mind.", ">\n\nNothing is too petty for Trump.", ">\n\nSuch a petty piece of shit.", ">\n\nThe pettiness is just mind-boggling. No respect for anyone", ">\n\nLeave Usher alone!", ">\n\nSuch a crass tacky uncouth person. Ugh", ">\n\nThis is full-on temper tantrum.", ">\n\nTrump is a fucking asshole.", ">\n\nI’m not even gonna read the article. I’ll just assume it was grammy winner artist Usher." ]

[ "That he wanted the dude fired isn't really newsworthy, but how he learned about the usher meeting with Biden is. The Secret Service told him. That means at least one of the Secret Service agents assigned to protect Biden at that time was sharing information he learned while on the job with Trump's people. No wonder there have been reports of Biden being careful of what he says around the Secret Service.", ">\n\nI still don’t understand how Biden hasn’t cleared out the SS.", ">\n\nIt’s a group of very specially skilled, highly trained people. They can’t easily replace the entire detail and even if he did with agents from other areas, there’s no telling that would be any better.\nHis only other good option may be a military detail and that comes with its own host of issues.", ">\n\nHaving a group of specially skilled, highly trained people betraying your interests to work against you sounds like it would be worse than having a less skilled less trained force that is actually loyal.", ">\n\nThat's just choosing between the devil you know and the devil you don't.\nYou can't know what level of exposure you will get with a green member of staff. An experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.", ">\n\n\nAn experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.\n\nAre you seriously suggesting that literal traitors would be better bodyguards for the president than noobs (only relatively speaking, since there are plenty of non-career-USSS folks who have done personal protection duty before) would, because traitors know how to cover their tracks? Or am I radically misunderstanding you? Because if I understood you correctly then that sounds like insanity.\nWe might as well resurrect John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald and have them guard our president. They really knew what they were doing.", ">\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk and not a physical threat to any government worker.\nAny of the agents will also not have the history of a Confederate or a USSR defector respectively.\nThey would need some proof of a threat that they pose, or at least some indication that they are disregarding their duties before replacing them with someone less effective.\nThey are managing a rumor mill.", ">\n\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk\n\nIf it were only infosec that had ever been in question, I might ageee with you. But trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\nAnd also, there’s not really such a thing as only an infosec risk when it comes to presidential security. Intentionally giving information about Biden’s activities to parties you know have hostile intentions toward him obviously poses a physical security risk.\nEdited to remove autocorrect of “infosec” to “informed.”", ">\n\n\nBut trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\n\nIf the agents that made those decisions are still employed that's interesting. If they can't figure out exactly who was progressing the plot that really sucks.\nI don't think they can afford to clean house if this is the case.", ">\n\nTrump never grasped how transition works even though multiple people explained it to him. \nBasically, if Trump really doesn't like something, he's going to refuse to listen or try to understand.\n\nUltimately, Harleth was fired on Inauguration Day even before the Bidens officially moved into the White House\nSince there was no hired usher at the time of their arrival, the Bidens were greeted with a set of closed doors on the North Portico. Typically, the doors would have been held open for the first family.\n\nI'm sure Donald Trump got some smug satisfaction out of that. \nAs I understood it, the crew was still deep-cleaning the place as per Biden's request. Donald probably tried to stop them from doing their jobs as well.", ">\n\nI’d forgotten about that. A book containing a one sentence description of every horrible/embarrassing/stupid thing trump and his family did in those four years would be too heavy to lift.", ">\n\nI’ve long thought that the number of scandals was part of the problem with the American people realizing how corrupt trump was. No scandal got sufficient coverage because a new one would come up. It’s hard to do the equivalent of Benghazi, Benghazi for years as republicans did when something new comes up nearly every damn day. People didn’t have time to fully understand any of the things he did because he’d do something new. It also didn’t help that the media gave as much attention to an inappropriate tweet as they did to extorting the leader of a foreign nation for political gain. His tweeting was repulsive, but the fact that he picked middle school fights with celebrities hardly compares in significance with obstructing the investigation into the extent of Russia’s involvement in spreading misinformation in the US in order to help trump get elected", ">\n\nThat’s so true. The media is much to blame, but so are Democratic spokespeople, who are so anxious to explain their own “brilliant” unique take on whatever issue is being discussed, they forget that repetition is key to convincing the public. How they were unable to make more hay from the Mueller report is one of the great mysteries of the age. The other is how they failed to capitalize on Biden’s leadership on Ukraine to boost his ratings and their own.", ">\n\nYeah why actually explaining the issues to the American people when empty slogans work better.", ">\n\nPetty little putz, not mention just an asshole.", ">\n\nIf anyone dug into it, I’d wager he killed his own brother", ">\n\nHis father did a pretty good job of that even without any help from Donald.", ">\n\nHe is a 70 year old toddler in mid sugar meltdown 24/7.", ">\n\n76 year old toddler.", ">\n\nI wonder if Americans truly understand the damage this man did to their international credibility. Just the sheer amount of things he did for nothing more than spite made America look petty af\nIt will be a long time before I ever feel I can trust the country again after Trump had my home country (and long time ally to the USA) Canada labeled an official threat to US National security, all so that he could push thru his tariffs against my country without Congress approval. \nCanada is now officially on the records sitting next to the Taliban, Iran nuclear ambitions and Al Quaeda, threats to the United States existence; that's where Trump officially placed us. \nThen he attempts a violent insurrection which he still has yet to see any repurcussions for.... But yet Canada's still on that list", ">\n\nSome of us do. This particular petty thing he did to Canada is bad enough, but when he withdrew from the Paris climate accords and the Iran nuclear deal, he showed the world that the United States couldn’t be trusted to keep its word. If the commitments of the US can’t be trusted to outlast the current administration, why the fuck would any country make any agreements with us? It will take decades of continuous promise keeping to restore the international confidence in our word that Trump causally threw in trash. The maga-morons think trump restored international respect for us. I’m not sure that the damage trump did to this country both internally and internationally can ever be repaired", ">\n\nYou put it far more succinctly than I ever could. I forgot about the Paris agreement, but his backing out of the Iran deal really confused me. If you think they might make nuclear weapons, why destroy the entire agreement that safeguarded against that, essentially letting Iran now do whatever they wanted", ">\n\nBecause Obama negotiated it. Trump tried to undo everything Obama accomplished from shear spite. We elected a temper tantrum throwing toddler as president. There’s no more point in trying to see logic in anything trump did than there is in reasoning with a 2 year old. I have argued and still believe that you could pick any random adult off any street in any town or city in the country and there would be a 90% chance that whoever you got would be a better president than trump. Believe me, some of us realize how much damage he did. But the fact that anyone would vote to re-elect this man, let alone the numbers who did, is a stinging indictment of the intelligence of the American people. At the time, I thought it would be impossible for anyone to be a worst president than Bush, jr., but compared to trump, W was fantastic, and I’d never have believed I’d ever say this if you had told me in 2007 that I would someday say this", ">\n\nHe was still fired and I doubt Melania gave 2 Fs whether the dude got fired 3 weeks to go or three days to go. That whole family AND Stephanie “multiple DUIs” Grisham are scum", ">\n\nFuck trump", ">\n\nHow dare that guy do the job he is paid to do.....", ">\n\nOf all the crap I believe about this man, this one rings total and truthful. Zero doubt in my mind.", ">\n\nNothing is too petty for Trump.", ">\n\nSuch a petty piece of shit.", ">\n\nThe pettiness is just mind-boggling. No respect for anyone", ">\n\nLeave Usher alone!", ">\n\nSuch a crass tacky uncouth person. Ugh", ">\n\nThis is full-on temper tantrum.", ">\n\nTrump is a fucking asshole.", ">\n\nI’m not even gonna read the article. I’ll just assume it was grammy winner artist Usher.", ">\n\nUshaaaa, Ushaaaa" ]

[ "That he wanted the dude fired isn't really newsworthy, but how he learned about the usher meeting with Biden is. The Secret Service told him. That means at least one of the Secret Service agents assigned to protect Biden at that time was sharing information he learned while on the job with Trump's people. No wonder there have been reports of Biden being careful of what he says around the Secret Service.", ">\n\nI still don’t understand how Biden hasn’t cleared out the SS.", ">\n\nIt’s a group of very specially skilled, highly trained people. They can’t easily replace the entire detail and even if he did with agents from other areas, there’s no telling that would be any better.\nHis only other good option may be a military detail and that comes with its own host of issues.", ">\n\nHaving a group of specially skilled, highly trained people betraying your interests to work against you sounds like it would be worse than having a less skilled less trained force that is actually loyal.", ">\n\nThat's just choosing between the devil you know and the devil you don't.\nYou can't know what level of exposure you will get with a green member of staff. An experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.", ">\n\n\nAn experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.\n\nAre you seriously suggesting that literal traitors would be better bodyguards for the president than noobs (only relatively speaking, since there are plenty of non-career-USSS folks who have done personal protection duty before) would, because traitors know how to cover their tracks? Or am I radically misunderstanding you? Because if I understood you correctly then that sounds like insanity.\nWe might as well resurrect John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald and have them guard our president. They really knew what they were doing.", ">\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk and not a physical threat to any government worker.\nAny of the agents will also not have the history of a Confederate or a USSR defector respectively.\nThey would need some proof of a threat that they pose, or at least some indication that they are disregarding their duties before replacing them with someone less effective.\nThey are managing a rumor mill.", ">\n\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk\n\nIf it were only infosec that had ever been in question, I might ageee with you. But trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\nAnd also, there’s not really such a thing as only an infosec risk when it comes to presidential security. Intentionally giving information about Biden’s activities to parties you know have hostile intentions toward him obviously poses a physical security risk.\nEdited to remove autocorrect of “infosec” to “informed.”", ">\n\n\nBut trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\n\nIf the agents that made those decisions are still employed that's interesting. If they can't figure out exactly who was progressing the plot that really sucks.\nI don't think they can afford to clean house if this is the case.", ">\n\nTrump never grasped how transition works even though multiple people explained it to him. \nBasically, if Trump really doesn't like something, he's going to refuse to listen or try to understand.\n\nUltimately, Harleth was fired on Inauguration Day even before the Bidens officially moved into the White House\nSince there was no hired usher at the time of their arrival, the Bidens were greeted with a set of closed doors on the North Portico. Typically, the doors would have been held open for the first family.\n\nI'm sure Donald Trump got some smug satisfaction out of that. \nAs I understood it, the crew was still deep-cleaning the place as per Biden's request. Donald probably tried to stop them from doing their jobs as well.", ">\n\nI’d forgotten about that. A book containing a one sentence description of every horrible/embarrassing/stupid thing trump and his family did in those four years would be too heavy to lift.", ">\n\nI’ve long thought that the number of scandals was part of the problem with the American people realizing how corrupt trump was. No scandal got sufficient coverage because a new one would come up. It’s hard to do the equivalent of Benghazi, Benghazi for years as republicans did when something new comes up nearly every damn day. People didn’t have time to fully understand any of the things he did because he’d do something new. It also didn’t help that the media gave as much attention to an inappropriate tweet as they did to extorting the leader of a foreign nation for political gain. His tweeting was repulsive, but the fact that he picked middle school fights with celebrities hardly compares in significance with obstructing the investigation into the extent of Russia’s involvement in spreading misinformation in the US in order to help trump get elected", ">\n\nThat’s so true. The media is much to blame, but so are Democratic spokespeople, who are so anxious to explain their own “brilliant” unique take on whatever issue is being discussed, they forget that repetition is key to convincing the public. How they were unable to make more hay from the Mueller report is one of the great mysteries of the age. The other is how they failed to capitalize on Biden’s leadership on Ukraine to boost his ratings and their own.", ">\n\nYeah why actually explaining the issues to the American people when empty slogans work better.", ">\n\nPetty little putz, not mention just an asshole.", ">\n\nIf anyone dug into it, I’d wager he killed his own brother", ">\n\nHis father did a pretty good job of that even without any help from Donald.", ">\n\nHe is a 70 year old toddler in mid sugar meltdown 24/7.", ">\n\n76 year old toddler.", ">\n\nI wonder if Americans truly understand the damage this man did to their international credibility. Just the sheer amount of things he did for nothing more than spite made America look petty af\nIt will be a long time before I ever feel I can trust the country again after Trump had my home country (and long time ally to the USA) Canada labeled an official threat to US National security, all so that he could push thru his tariffs against my country without Congress approval. \nCanada is now officially on the records sitting next to the Taliban, Iran nuclear ambitions and Al Quaeda, threats to the United States existence; that's where Trump officially placed us. \nThen he attempts a violent insurrection which he still has yet to see any repurcussions for.... But yet Canada's still on that list", ">\n\nSome of us do. This particular petty thing he did to Canada is bad enough, but when he withdrew from the Paris climate accords and the Iran nuclear deal, he showed the world that the United States couldn’t be trusted to keep its word. If the commitments of the US can’t be trusted to outlast the current administration, why the fuck would any country make any agreements with us? It will take decades of continuous promise keeping to restore the international confidence in our word that Trump causally threw in trash. The maga-morons think trump restored international respect for us. I’m not sure that the damage trump did to this country both internally and internationally can ever be repaired", ">\n\nYou put it far more succinctly than I ever could. I forgot about the Paris agreement, but his backing out of the Iran deal really confused me. If you think they might make nuclear weapons, why destroy the entire agreement that safeguarded against that, essentially letting Iran now do whatever they wanted", ">\n\nBecause Obama negotiated it. Trump tried to undo everything Obama accomplished from shear spite. We elected a temper tantrum throwing toddler as president. There’s no more point in trying to see logic in anything trump did than there is in reasoning with a 2 year old. I have argued and still believe that you could pick any random adult off any street in any town or city in the country and there would be a 90% chance that whoever you got would be a better president than trump. Believe me, some of us realize how much damage he did. But the fact that anyone would vote to re-elect this man, let alone the numbers who did, is a stinging indictment of the intelligence of the American people. At the time, I thought it would be impossible for anyone to be a worst president than Bush, jr., but compared to trump, W was fantastic, and I’d never have believed I’d ever say this if you had told me in 2007 that I would someday say this", ">\n\nHe was still fired and I doubt Melania gave 2 Fs whether the dude got fired 3 weeks to go or three days to go. That whole family AND Stephanie “multiple DUIs” Grisham are scum", ">\n\nFuck trump", ">\n\nHow dare that guy do the job he is paid to do.....", ">\n\nOf all the crap I believe about this man, this one rings total and truthful. Zero doubt in my mind.", ">\n\nNothing is too petty for Trump.", ">\n\nSuch a petty piece of shit.", ">\n\nThe pettiness is just mind-boggling. No respect for anyone", ">\n\nLeave Usher alone!", ">\n\nSuch a crass tacky uncouth person. Ugh", ">\n\nThis is full-on temper tantrum.", ">\n\nTrump is a fucking asshole.", ">\n\nI’m not even gonna read the article. I’ll just assume it was grammy winner artist Usher.", ">\n\nUshaaaa, Ushaaaa", ">\n\nI wouldn’t put it past this man to leave a steaming pile of Trump in the toilet before leaving the grounds." ]

[ "That he wanted the dude fired isn't really newsworthy, but how he learned about the usher meeting with Biden is. The Secret Service told him. That means at least one of the Secret Service agents assigned to protect Biden at that time was sharing information he learned while on the job with Trump's people. No wonder there have been reports of Biden being careful of what he says around the Secret Service.", ">\n\nI still don’t understand how Biden hasn’t cleared out the SS.", ">\n\nIt’s a group of very specially skilled, highly trained people. They can’t easily replace the entire detail and even if he did with agents from other areas, there’s no telling that would be any better.\nHis only other good option may be a military detail and that comes with its own host of issues.", ">\n\nHaving a group of specially skilled, highly trained people betraying your interests to work against you sounds like it would be worse than having a less skilled less trained force that is actually loyal.", ">\n\nThat's just choosing between the devil you know and the devil you don't.\nYou can't know what level of exposure you will get with a green member of staff. An experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.", ">\n\n\nAn experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.\n\nAre you seriously suggesting that literal traitors would be better bodyguards for the president than noobs (only relatively speaking, since there are plenty of non-career-USSS folks who have done personal protection duty before) would, because traitors know how to cover their tracks? Or am I radically misunderstanding you? Because if I understood you correctly then that sounds like insanity.\nWe might as well resurrect John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald and have them guard our president. They really knew what they were doing.", ">\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk and not a physical threat to any government worker.\nAny of the agents will also not have the history of a Confederate or a USSR defector respectively.\nThey would need some proof of a threat that they pose, or at least some indication that they are disregarding their duties before replacing them with someone less effective.\nThey are managing a rumor mill.", ">\n\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk\n\nIf it were only infosec that had ever been in question, I might ageee with you. But trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\nAnd also, there’s not really such a thing as only an infosec risk when it comes to presidential security. Intentionally giving information about Biden’s activities to parties you know have hostile intentions toward him obviously poses a physical security risk.\nEdited to remove autocorrect of “infosec” to “informed.”", ">\n\n\nBut trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\n\nIf the agents that made those decisions are still employed that's interesting. If they can't figure out exactly who was progressing the plot that really sucks.\nI don't think they can afford to clean house if this is the case.", ">\n\nTrump never grasped how transition works even though multiple people explained it to him. \nBasically, if Trump really doesn't like something, he's going to refuse to listen or try to understand.\n\nUltimately, Harleth was fired on Inauguration Day even before the Bidens officially moved into the White House\nSince there was no hired usher at the time of their arrival, the Bidens were greeted with a set of closed doors on the North Portico. Typically, the doors would have been held open for the first family.\n\nI'm sure Donald Trump got some smug satisfaction out of that. \nAs I understood it, the crew was still deep-cleaning the place as per Biden's request. Donald probably tried to stop them from doing their jobs as well.", ">\n\nI’d forgotten about that. A book containing a one sentence description of every horrible/embarrassing/stupid thing trump and his family did in those four years would be too heavy to lift.", ">\n\nI’ve long thought that the number of scandals was part of the problem with the American people realizing how corrupt trump was. No scandal got sufficient coverage because a new one would come up. It’s hard to do the equivalent of Benghazi, Benghazi for years as republicans did when something new comes up nearly every damn day. People didn’t have time to fully understand any of the things he did because he’d do something new. It also didn’t help that the media gave as much attention to an inappropriate tweet as they did to extorting the leader of a foreign nation for political gain. His tweeting was repulsive, but the fact that he picked middle school fights with celebrities hardly compares in significance with obstructing the investigation into the extent of Russia’s involvement in spreading misinformation in the US in order to help trump get elected", ">\n\nThat’s so true. The media is much to blame, but so are Democratic spokespeople, who are so anxious to explain their own “brilliant” unique take on whatever issue is being discussed, they forget that repetition is key to convincing the public. How they were unable to make more hay from the Mueller report is one of the great mysteries of the age. The other is how they failed to capitalize on Biden’s leadership on Ukraine to boost his ratings and their own.", ">\n\nYeah why actually explaining the issues to the American people when empty slogans work better.", ">\n\nPetty little putz, not mention just an asshole.", ">\n\nIf anyone dug into it, I’d wager he killed his own brother", ">\n\nHis father did a pretty good job of that even without any help from Donald.", ">\n\nHe is a 70 year old toddler in mid sugar meltdown 24/7.", ">\n\n76 year old toddler.", ">\n\nI wonder if Americans truly understand the damage this man did to their international credibility. Just the sheer amount of things he did for nothing more than spite made America look petty af\nIt will be a long time before I ever feel I can trust the country again after Trump had my home country (and long time ally to the USA) Canada labeled an official threat to US National security, all so that he could push thru his tariffs against my country without Congress approval. \nCanada is now officially on the records sitting next to the Taliban, Iran nuclear ambitions and Al Quaeda, threats to the United States existence; that's where Trump officially placed us. \nThen he attempts a violent insurrection which he still has yet to see any repurcussions for.... But yet Canada's still on that list", ">\n\nSome of us do. This particular petty thing he did to Canada is bad enough, but when he withdrew from the Paris climate accords and the Iran nuclear deal, he showed the world that the United States couldn’t be trusted to keep its word. If the commitments of the US can’t be trusted to outlast the current administration, why the fuck would any country make any agreements with us? It will take decades of continuous promise keeping to restore the international confidence in our word that Trump causally threw in trash. The maga-morons think trump restored international respect for us. I’m not sure that the damage trump did to this country both internally and internationally can ever be repaired", ">\n\nYou put it far more succinctly than I ever could. I forgot about the Paris agreement, but his backing out of the Iran deal really confused me. If you think they might make nuclear weapons, why destroy the entire agreement that safeguarded against that, essentially letting Iran now do whatever they wanted", ">\n\nBecause Obama negotiated it. Trump tried to undo everything Obama accomplished from shear spite. We elected a temper tantrum throwing toddler as president. There’s no more point in trying to see logic in anything trump did than there is in reasoning with a 2 year old. I have argued and still believe that you could pick any random adult off any street in any town or city in the country and there would be a 90% chance that whoever you got would be a better president than trump. Believe me, some of us realize how much damage he did. But the fact that anyone would vote to re-elect this man, let alone the numbers who did, is a stinging indictment of the intelligence of the American people. At the time, I thought it would be impossible for anyone to be a worst president than Bush, jr., but compared to trump, W was fantastic, and I’d never have believed I’d ever say this if you had told me in 2007 that I would someday say this", ">\n\nHe was still fired and I doubt Melania gave 2 Fs whether the dude got fired 3 weeks to go or three days to go. That whole family AND Stephanie “multiple DUIs” Grisham are scum", ">\n\nFuck trump", ">\n\nHow dare that guy do the job he is paid to do.....", ">\n\nOf all the crap I believe about this man, this one rings total and truthful. Zero doubt in my mind.", ">\n\nNothing is too petty for Trump.", ">\n\nSuch a petty piece of shit.", ">\n\nThe pettiness is just mind-boggling. No respect for anyone", ">\n\nLeave Usher alone!", ">\n\nSuch a crass tacky uncouth person. Ugh", ">\n\nThis is full-on temper tantrum.", ">\n\nTrump is a fucking asshole.", ">\n\nI’m not even gonna read the article. I’ll just assume it was grammy winner artist Usher.", ">\n\nUshaaaa, Ushaaaa", ">\n\nI wouldn’t put it past this man to leave a steaming pile of Trump in the toilet before leaving the grounds.", ">\n\nThe most petty, infantile, pathetic POTUS we ever had, by far." ]

[ "That he wanted the dude fired isn't really newsworthy, but how he learned about the usher meeting with Biden is. The Secret Service told him. That means at least one of the Secret Service agents assigned to protect Biden at that time was sharing information he learned while on the job with Trump's people. No wonder there have been reports of Biden being careful of what he says around the Secret Service.", ">\n\nI still don’t understand how Biden hasn’t cleared out the SS.", ">\n\nIt’s a group of very specially skilled, highly trained people. They can’t easily replace the entire detail and even if he did with agents from other areas, there’s no telling that would be any better.\nHis only other good option may be a military detail and that comes with its own host of issues.", ">\n\nHaving a group of specially skilled, highly trained people betraying your interests to work against you sounds like it would be worse than having a less skilled less trained force that is actually loyal.", ">\n\nThat's just choosing between the devil you know and the devil you don't.\nYou can't know what level of exposure you will get with a green member of staff. An experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.", ">\n\n\nAn experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.\n\nAre you seriously suggesting that literal traitors would be better bodyguards for the president than noobs (only relatively speaking, since there are plenty of non-career-USSS folks who have done personal protection duty before) would, because traitors know how to cover their tracks? Or am I radically misunderstanding you? Because if I understood you correctly then that sounds like insanity.\nWe might as well resurrect John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald and have them guard our president. They really knew what they were doing.", ">\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk and not a physical threat to any government worker.\nAny of the agents will also not have the history of a Confederate or a USSR defector respectively.\nThey would need some proof of a threat that they pose, or at least some indication that they are disregarding their duties before replacing them with someone less effective.\nThey are managing a rumor mill.", ">\n\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk\n\nIf it were only infosec that had ever been in question, I might ageee with you. But trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\nAnd also, there’s not really such a thing as only an infosec risk when it comes to presidential security. Intentionally giving information about Biden’s activities to parties you know have hostile intentions toward him obviously poses a physical security risk.\nEdited to remove autocorrect of “infosec” to “informed.”", ">\n\n\nBut trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\n\nIf the agents that made those decisions are still employed that's interesting. If they can't figure out exactly who was progressing the plot that really sucks.\nI don't think they can afford to clean house if this is the case.", ">\n\nTrump never grasped how transition works even though multiple people explained it to him. \nBasically, if Trump really doesn't like something, he's going to refuse to listen or try to understand.\n\nUltimately, Harleth was fired on Inauguration Day even before the Bidens officially moved into the White House\nSince there was no hired usher at the time of their arrival, the Bidens were greeted with a set of closed doors on the North Portico. Typically, the doors would have been held open for the first family.\n\nI'm sure Donald Trump got some smug satisfaction out of that. \nAs I understood it, the crew was still deep-cleaning the place as per Biden's request. Donald probably tried to stop them from doing their jobs as well.", ">\n\nI’d forgotten about that. A book containing a one sentence description of every horrible/embarrassing/stupid thing trump and his family did in those four years would be too heavy to lift.", ">\n\nI’ve long thought that the number of scandals was part of the problem with the American people realizing how corrupt trump was. No scandal got sufficient coverage because a new one would come up. It’s hard to do the equivalent of Benghazi, Benghazi for years as republicans did when something new comes up nearly every damn day. People didn’t have time to fully understand any of the things he did because he’d do something new. It also didn’t help that the media gave as much attention to an inappropriate tweet as they did to extorting the leader of a foreign nation for political gain. His tweeting was repulsive, but the fact that he picked middle school fights with celebrities hardly compares in significance with obstructing the investigation into the extent of Russia’s involvement in spreading misinformation in the US in order to help trump get elected", ">\n\nThat’s so true. The media is much to blame, but so are Democratic spokespeople, who are so anxious to explain their own “brilliant” unique take on whatever issue is being discussed, they forget that repetition is key to convincing the public. How they were unable to make more hay from the Mueller report is one of the great mysteries of the age. The other is how they failed to capitalize on Biden’s leadership on Ukraine to boost his ratings and their own.", ">\n\nYeah why actually explaining the issues to the American people when empty slogans work better.", ">\n\nPetty little putz, not mention just an asshole.", ">\n\nIf anyone dug into it, I’d wager he killed his own brother", ">\n\nHis father did a pretty good job of that even without any help from Donald.", ">\n\nHe is a 70 year old toddler in mid sugar meltdown 24/7.", ">\n\n76 year old toddler.", ">\n\nI wonder if Americans truly understand the damage this man did to their international credibility. Just the sheer amount of things he did for nothing more than spite made America look petty af\nIt will be a long time before I ever feel I can trust the country again after Trump had my home country (and long time ally to the USA) Canada labeled an official threat to US National security, all so that he could push thru his tariffs against my country without Congress approval. \nCanada is now officially on the records sitting next to the Taliban, Iran nuclear ambitions and Al Quaeda, threats to the United States existence; that's where Trump officially placed us. \nThen he attempts a violent insurrection which he still has yet to see any repurcussions for.... But yet Canada's still on that list", ">\n\nSome of us do. This particular petty thing he did to Canada is bad enough, but when he withdrew from the Paris climate accords and the Iran nuclear deal, he showed the world that the United States couldn’t be trusted to keep its word. If the commitments of the US can’t be trusted to outlast the current administration, why the fuck would any country make any agreements with us? It will take decades of continuous promise keeping to restore the international confidence in our word that Trump causally threw in trash. The maga-morons think trump restored international respect for us. I’m not sure that the damage trump did to this country both internally and internationally can ever be repaired", ">\n\nYou put it far more succinctly than I ever could. I forgot about the Paris agreement, but his backing out of the Iran deal really confused me. If you think they might make nuclear weapons, why destroy the entire agreement that safeguarded against that, essentially letting Iran now do whatever they wanted", ">\n\nBecause Obama negotiated it. Trump tried to undo everything Obama accomplished from shear spite. We elected a temper tantrum throwing toddler as president. There’s no more point in trying to see logic in anything trump did than there is in reasoning with a 2 year old. I have argued and still believe that you could pick any random adult off any street in any town or city in the country and there would be a 90% chance that whoever you got would be a better president than trump. Believe me, some of us realize how much damage he did. But the fact that anyone would vote to re-elect this man, let alone the numbers who did, is a stinging indictment of the intelligence of the American people. At the time, I thought it would be impossible for anyone to be a worst president than Bush, jr., but compared to trump, W was fantastic, and I’d never have believed I’d ever say this if you had told me in 2007 that I would someday say this", ">\n\nHe was still fired and I doubt Melania gave 2 Fs whether the dude got fired 3 weeks to go or three days to go. That whole family AND Stephanie “multiple DUIs” Grisham are scum", ">\n\nFuck trump", ">\n\nHow dare that guy do the job he is paid to do.....", ">\n\nOf all the crap I believe about this man, this one rings total and truthful. Zero doubt in my mind.", ">\n\nNothing is too petty for Trump.", ">\n\nSuch a petty piece of shit.", ">\n\nThe pettiness is just mind-boggling. No respect for anyone", ">\n\nLeave Usher alone!", ">\n\nSuch a crass tacky uncouth person. Ugh", ">\n\nThis is full-on temper tantrum.", ">\n\nTrump is a fucking asshole.", ">\n\nI’m not even gonna read the article. I’ll just assume it was grammy winner artist Usher.", ">\n\nUshaaaa, Ushaaaa", ">\n\nI wouldn’t put it past this man to leave a steaming pile of Trump in the toilet before leaving the grounds.", ">\n\nThe most petty, infantile, pathetic POTUS we ever had, by far.", ">\n\nI wager he left him an unflushed toilet, too.\nIt’s the kind of petty shit he lives for." ]

[ "That he wanted the dude fired isn't really newsworthy, but how he learned about the usher meeting with Biden is. The Secret Service told him. That means at least one of the Secret Service agents assigned to protect Biden at that time was sharing information he learned while on the job with Trump's people. No wonder there have been reports of Biden being careful of what he says around the Secret Service.", ">\n\nI still don’t understand how Biden hasn’t cleared out the SS.", ">\n\nIt’s a group of very specially skilled, highly trained people. They can’t easily replace the entire detail and even if he did with agents from other areas, there’s no telling that would be any better.\nHis only other good option may be a military detail and that comes with its own host of issues.", ">\n\nHaving a group of specially skilled, highly trained people betraying your interests to work against you sounds like it would be worse than having a less skilled less trained force that is actually loyal.", ">\n\nThat's just choosing between the devil you know and the devil you don't.\nYou can't know what level of exposure you will get with a green member of staff. An experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.", ">\n\n\nAn experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.\n\nAre you seriously suggesting that literal traitors would be better bodyguards for the president than noobs (only relatively speaking, since there are plenty of non-career-USSS folks who have done personal protection duty before) would, because traitors know how to cover their tracks? Or am I radically misunderstanding you? Because if I understood you correctly then that sounds like insanity.\nWe might as well resurrect John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald and have them guard our president. They really knew what they were doing.", ">\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk and not a physical threat to any government worker.\nAny of the agents will also not have the history of a Confederate or a USSR defector respectively.\nThey would need some proof of a threat that they pose, or at least some indication that they are disregarding their duties before replacing them with someone less effective.\nThey are managing a rumor mill.", ">\n\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk\n\nIf it were only infosec that had ever been in question, I might ageee with you. But trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\nAnd also, there’s not really such a thing as only an infosec risk when it comes to presidential security. Intentionally giving information about Biden’s activities to parties you know have hostile intentions toward him obviously poses a physical security risk.\nEdited to remove autocorrect of “infosec” to “informed.”", ">\n\n\nBut trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\n\nIf the agents that made those decisions are still employed that's interesting. If they can't figure out exactly who was progressing the plot that really sucks.\nI don't think they can afford to clean house if this is the case.", ">\n\nTrump never grasped how transition works even though multiple people explained it to him. \nBasically, if Trump really doesn't like something, he's going to refuse to listen or try to understand.\n\nUltimately, Harleth was fired on Inauguration Day even before the Bidens officially moved into the White House\nSince there was no hired usher at the time of their arrival, the Bidens were greeted with a set of closed doors on the North Portico. Typically, the doors would have been held open for the first family.\n\nI'm sure Donald Trump got some smug satisfaction out of that. \nAs I understood it, the crew was still deep-cleaning the place as per Biden's request. Donald probably tried to stop them from doing their jobs as well.", ">\n\nI’d forgotten about that. A book containing a one sentence description of every horrible/embarrassing/stupid thing trump and his family did in those four years would be too heavy to lift.", ">\n\nI’ve long thought that the number of scandals was part of the problem with the American people realizing how corrupt trump was. No scandal got sufficient coverage because a new one would come up. It’s hard to do the equivalent of Benghazi, Benghazi for years as republicans did when something new comes up nearly every damn day. People didn’t have time to fully understand any of the things he did because he’d do something new. It also didn’t help that the media gave as much attention to an inappropriate tweet as they did to extorting the leader of a foreign nation for political gain. His tweeting was repulsive, but the fact that he picked middle school fights with celebrities hardly compares in significance with obstructing the investigation into the extent of Russia’s involvement in spreading misinformation in the US in order to help trump get elected", ">\n\nThat’s so true. The media is much to blame, but so are Democratic spokespeople, who are so anxious to explain their own “brilliant” unique take on whatever issue is being discussed, they forget that repetition is key to convincing the public. How they were unable to make more hay from the Mueller report is one of the great mysteries of the age. The other is how they failed to capitalize on Biden’s leadership on Ukraine to boost his ratings and their own.", ">\n\nYeah why actually explaining the issues to the American people when empty slogans work better.", ">\n\nPetty little putz, not mention just an asshole.", ">\n\nIf anyone dug into it, I’d wager he killed his own brother", ">\n\nHis father did a pretty good job of that even without any help from Donald.", ">\n\nHe is a 70 year old toddler in mid sugar meltdown 24/7.", ">\n\n76 year old toddler.", ">\n\nI wonder if Americans truly understand the damage this man did to their international credibility. Just the sheer amount of things he did for nothing more than spite made America look petty af\nIt will be a long time before I ever feel I can trust the country again after Trump had my home country (and long time ally to the USA) Canada labeled an official threat to US National security, all so that he could push thru his tariffs against my country without Congress approval. \nCanada is now officially on the records sitting next to the Taliban, Iran nuclear ambitions and Al Quaeda, threats to the United States existence; that's where Trump officially placed us. \nThen he attempts a violent insurrection which he still has yet to see any repurcussions for.... But yet Canada's still on that list", ">\n\nSome of us do. This particular petty thing he did to Canada is bad enough, but when he withdrew from the Paris climate accords and the Iran nuclear deal, he showed the world that the United States couldn’t be trusted to keep its word. If the commitments of the US can’t be trusted to outlast the current administration, why the fuck would any country make any agreements with us? It will take decades of continuous promise keeping to restore the international confidence in our word that Trump causally threw in trash. The maga-morons think trump restored international respect for us. I’m not sure that the damage trump did to this country both internally and internationally can ever be repaired", ">\n\nYou put it far more succinctly than I ever could. I forgot about the Paris agreement, but his backing out of the Iran deal really confused me. If you think they might make nuclear weapons, why destroy the entire agreement that safeguarded against that, essentially letting Iran now do whatever they wanted", ">\n\nBecause Obama negotiated it. Trump tried to undo everything Obama accomplished from shear spite. We elected a temper tantrum throwing toddler as president. There’s no more point in trying to see logic in anything trump did than there is in reasoning with a 2 year old. I have argued and still believe that you could pick any random adult off any street in any town or city in the country and there would be a 90% chance that whoever you got would be a better president than trump. Believe me, some of us realize how much damage he did. But the fact that anyone would vote to re-elect this man, let alone the numbers who did, is a stinging indictment of the intelligence of the American people. At the time, I thought it would be impossible for anyone to be a worst president than Bush, jr., but compared to trump, W was fantastic, and I’d never have believed I’d ever say this if you had told me in 2007 that I would someday say this", ">\n\nHe was still fired and I doubt Melania gave 2 Fs whether the dude got fired 3 weeks to go or three days to go. That whole family AND Stephanie “multiple DUIs” Grisham are scum", ">\n\nFuck trump", ">\n\nHow dare that guy do the job he is paid to do.....", ">\n\nOf all the crap I believe about this man, this one rings total and truthful. Zero doubt in my mind.", ">\n\nNothing is too petty for Trump.", ">\n\nSuch a petty piece of shit.", ">\n\nThe pettiness is just mind-boggling. No respect for anyone", ">\n\nLeave Usher alone!", ">\n\nSuch a crass tacky uncouth person. Ugh", ">\n\nThis is full-on temper tantrum.", ">\n\nTrump is a fucking asshole.", ">\n\nI’m not even gonna read the article. I’ll just assume it was grammy winner artist Usher.", ">\n\nUshaaaa, Ushaaaa", ">\n\nI wouldn’t put it past this man to leave a steaming pile of Trump in the toilet before leaving the grounds.", ">\n\nThe most petty, infantile, pathetic POTUS we ever had, by far.", ">\n\nI wager he left him an unflushed toilet, too.\nIt’s the kind of petty shit he lives for.", ">\n\nI’m just a humble Redditor. I want someone with more mojo to create a thread somewhere on r/fednews or the like to tell disloyal Secret Service people how angry I am at them. \nI have no problem with whatever honest money we spend to protect Trump and his family, if that’s really what we need to spend. But the trade-off is that the Secret Service should be as loyal to presidents they dislike as I am to security spending for the Trumps." ]

[ "That he wanted the dude fired isn't really newsworthy, but how he learned about the usher meeting with Biden is. The Secret Service told him. That means at least one of the Secret Service agents assigned to protect Biden at that time was sharing information he learned while on the job with Trump's people. No wonder there have been reports of Biden being careful of what he says around the Secret Service.", ">\n\nI still don’t understand how Biden hasn’t cleared out the SS.", ">\n\nIt’s a group of very specially skilled, highly trained people. They can’t easily replace the entire detail and even if he did with agents from other areas, there’s no telling that would be any better.\nHis only other good option may be a military detail and that comes with its own host of issues.", ">\n\nHaving a group of specially skilled, highly trained people betraying your interests to work against you sounds like it would be worse than having a less skilled less trained force that is actually loyal.", ">\n\nThat's just choosing between the devil you know and the devil you don't.\nYou can't know what level of exposure you will get with a green member of staff. An experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.", ">\n\n\nAn experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.\n\nAre you seriously suggesting that literal traitors would be better bodyguards for the president than noobs (only relatively speaking, since there are plenty of non-career-USSS folks who have done personal protection duty before) would, because traitors know how to cover their tracks? Or am I radically misunderstanding you? Because if I understood you correctly then that sounds like insanity.\nWe might as well resurrect John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald and have them guard our president. They really knew what they were doing.", ">\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk and not a physical threat to any government worker.\nAny of the agents will also not have the history of a Confederate or a USSR defector respectively.\nThey would need some proof of a threat that they pose, or at least some indication that they are disregarding their duties before replacing them with someone less effective.\nThey are managing a rumor mill.", ">\n\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk\n\nIf it were only infosec that had ever been in question, I might ageee with you. But trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\nAnd also, there’s not really such a thing as only an infosec risk when it comes to presidential security. Intentionally giving information about Biden’s activities to parties you know have hostile intentions toward him obviously poses a physical security risk.\nEdited to remove autocorrect of “infosec” to “informed.”", ">\n\n\nBut trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\n\nIf the agents that made those decisions are still employed that's interesting. If they can't figure out exactly who was progressing the plot that really sucks.\nI don't think they can afford to clean house if this is the case.", ">\n\nTrump never grasped how transition works even though multiple people explained it to him. \nBasically, if Trump really doesn't like something, he's going to refuse to listen or try to understand.\n\nUltimately, Harleth was fired on Inauguration Day even before the Bidens officially moved into the White House\nSince there was no hired usher at the time of their arrival, the Bidens were greeted with a set of closed doors on the North Portico. Typically, the doors would have been held open for the first family.\n\nI'm sure Donald Trump got some smug satisfaction out of that. \nAs I understood it, the crew was still deep-cleaning the place as per Biden's request. Donald probably tried to stop them from doing their jobs as well.", ">\n\nI’d forgotten about that. A book containing a one sentence description of every horrible/embarrassing/stupid thing trump and his family did in those four years would be too heavy to lift.", ">\n\nI’ve long thought that the number of scandals was part of the problem with the American people realizing how corrupt trump was. No scandal got sufficient coverage because a new one would come up. It’s hard to do the equivalent of Benghazi, Benghazi for years as republicans did when something new comes up nearly every damn day. People didn’t have time to fully understand any of the things he did because he’d do something new. It also didn’t help that the media gave as much attention to an inappropriate tweet as they did to extorting the leader of a foreign nation for political gain. His tweeting was repulsive, but the fact that he picked middle school fights with celebrities hardly compares in significance with obstructing the investigation into the extent of Russia’s involvement in spreading misinformation in the US in order to help trump get elected", ">\n\nThat’s so true. The media is much to blame, but so are Democratic spokespeople, who are so anxious to explain their own “brilliant” unique take on whatever issue is being discussed, they forget that repetition is key to convincing the public. How they were unable to make more hay from the Mueller report is one of the great mysteries of the age. The other is how they failed to capitalize on Biden’s leadership on Ukraine to boost his ratings and their own.", ">\n\nYeah why actually explaining the issues to the American people when empty slogans work better.", ">\n\nPetty little putz, not mention just an asshole.", ">\n\nIf anyone dug into it, I’d wager he killed his own brother", ">\n\nHis father did a pretty good job of that even without any help from Donald.", ">\n\nHe is a 70 year old toddler in mid sugar meltdown 24/7.", ">\n\n76 year old toddler.", ">\n\nI wonder if Americans truly understand the damage this man did to their international credibility. Just the sheer amount of things he did for nothing more than spite made America look petty af\nIt will be a long time before I ever feel I can trust the country again after Trump had my home country (and long time ally to the USA) Canada labeled an official threat to US National security, all so that he could push thru his tariffs against my country without Congress approval. \nCanada is now officially on the records sitting next to the Taliban, Iran nuclear ambitions and Al Quaeda, threats to the United States existence; that's where Trump officially placed us. \nThen he attempts a violent insurrection which he still has yet to see any repurcussions for.... But yet Canada's still on that list", ">\n\nSome of us do. This particular petty thing he did to Canada is bad enough, but when he withdrew from the Paris climate accords and the Iran nuclear deal, he showed the world that the United States couldn’t be trusted to keep its word. If the commitments of the US can’t be trusted to outlast the current administration, why the fuck would any country make any agreements with us? It will take decades of continuous promise keeping to restore the international confidence in our word that Trump causally threw in trash. The maga-morons think trump restored international respect for us. I’m not sure that the damage trump did to this country both internally and internationally can ever be repaired", ">\n\nYou put it far more succinctly than I ever could. I forgot about the Paris agreement, but his backing out of the Iran deal really confused me. If you think they might make nuclear weapons, why destroy the entire agreement that safeguarded against that, essentially letting Iran now do whatever they wanted", ">\n\nBecause Obama negotiated it. Trump tried to undo everything Obama accomplished from shear spite. We elected a temper tantrum throwing toddler as president. There’s no more point in trying to see logic in anything trump did than there is in reasoning with a 2 year old. I have argued and still believe that you could pick any random adult off any street in any town or city in the country and there would be a 90% chance that whoever you got would be a better president than trump. Believe me, some of us realize how much damage he did. But the fact that anyone would vote to re-elect this man, let alone the numbers who did, is a stinging indictment of the intelligence of the American people. At the time, I thought it would be impossible for anyone to be a worst president than Bush, jr., but compared to trump, W was fantastic, and I’d never have believed I’d ever say this if you had told me in 2007 that I would someday say this", ">\n\nHe was still fired and I doubt Melania gave 2 Fs whether the dude got fired 3 weeks to go or three days to go. That whole family AND Stephanie “multiple DUIs” Grisham are scum", ">\n\nFuck trump", ">\n\nHow dare that guy do the job he is paid to do.....", ">\n\nOf all the crap I believe about this man, this one rings total and truthful. Zero doubt in my mind.", ">\n\nNothing is too petty for Trump.", ">\n\nSuch a petty piece of shit.", ">\n\nThe pettiness is just mind-boggling. No respect for anyone", ">\n\nLeave Usher alone!", ">\n\nSuch a crass tacky uncouth person. Ugh", ">\n\nThis is full-on temper tantrum.", ">\n\nTrump is a fucking asshole.", ">\n\nI’m not even gonna read the article. I’ll just assume it was grammy winner artist Usher.", ">\n\nUshaaaa, Ushaaaa", ">\n\nI wouldn’t put it past this man to leave a steaming pile of Trump in the toilet before leaving the grounds.", ">\n\nThe most petty, infantile, pathetic POTUS we ever had, by far.", ">\n\nI wager he left him an unflushed toilet, too.\nIt’s the kind of petty shit he lives for.", ">\n\nI’m just a humble Redditor. I want someone with more mojo to create a thread somewhere on r/fednews or the like to tell disloyal Secret Service people how angry I am at them. \nI have no problem with whatever honest money we spend to protect Trump and his family, if that’s really what we need to spend. But the trade-off is that the Secret Service should be as loyal to presidents they dislike as I am to security spending for the Trumps.", ">\n\nTo which he replied, \"how the hell am I supposed to leave?\"" ]

[ "That he wanted the dude fired isn't really newsworthy, but how he learned about the usher meeting with Biden is. The Secret Service told him. That means at least one of the Secret Service agents assigned to protect Biden at that time was sharing information he learned while on the job with Trump's people. No wonder there have been reports of Biden being careful of what he says around the Secret Service.", ">\n\nI still don’t understand how Biden hasn’t cleared out the SS.", ">\n\nIt’s a group of very specially skilled, highly trained people. They can’t easily replace the entire detail and even if he did with agents from other areas, there’s no telling that would be any better.\nHis only other good option may be a military detail and that comes with its own host of issues.", ">\n\nHaving a group of specially skilled, highly trained people betraying your interests to work against you sounds like it would be worse than having a less skilled less trained force that is actually loyal.", ">\n\nThat's just choosing between the devil you know and the devil you don't.\nYou can't know what level of exposure you will get with a green member of staff. An experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.", ">\n\n\nAn experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.\n\nAre you seriously suggesting that literal traitors would be better bodyguards for the president than noobs (only relatively speaking, since there are plenty of non-career-USSS folks who have done personal protection duty before) would, because traitors know how to cover their tracks? Or am I radically misunderstanding you? Because if I understood you correctly then that sounds like insanity.\nWe might as well resurrect John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald and have them guard our president. They really knew what they were doing.", ">\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk and not a physical threat to any government worker.\nAny of the agents will also not have the history of a Confederate or a USSR defector respectively.\nThey would need some proof of a threat that they pose, or at least some indication that they are disregarding their duties before replacing them with someone less effective.\nThey are managing a rumor mill.", ">\n\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk\n\nIf it were only infosec that had ever been in question, I might ageee with you. But trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\nAnd also, there’s not really such a thing as only an infosec risk when it comes to presidential security. Intentionally giving information about Biden’s activities to parties you know have hostile intentions toward him obviously poses a physical security risk.\nEdited to remove autocorrect of “infosec” to “informed.”", ">\n\n\nBut trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\n\nIf the agents that made those decisions are still employed that's interesting. If they can't figure out exactly who was progressing the plot that really sucks.\nI don't think they can afford to clean house if this is the case.", ">\n\nTrump never grasped how transition works even though multiple people explained it to him. \nBasically, if Trump really doesn't like something, he's going to refuse to listen or try to understand.\n\nUltimately, Harleth was fired on Inauguration Day even before the Bidens officially moved into the White House\nSince there was no hired usher at the time of their arrival, the Bidens were greeted with a set of closed doors on the North Portico. Typically, the doors would have been held open for the first family.\n\nI'm sure Donald Trump got some smug satisfaction out of that. \nAs I understood it, the crew was still deep-cleaning the place as per Biden's request. Donald probably tried to stop them from doing their jobs as well.", ">\n\nI’d forgotten about that. A book containing a one sentence description of every horrible/embarrassing/stupid thing trump and his family did in those four years would be too heavy to lift.", ">\n\nI’ve long thought that the number of scandals was part of the problem with the American people realizing how corrupt trump was. No scandal got sufficient coverage because a new one would come up. It’s hard to do the equivalent of Benghazi, Benghazi for years as republicans did when something new comes up nearly every damn day. People didn’t have time to fully understand any of the things he did because he’d do something new. It also didn’t help that the media gave as much attention to an inappropriate tweet as they did to extorting the leader of a foreign nation for political gain. His tweeting was repulsive, but the fact that he picked middle school fights with celebrities hardly compares in significance with obstructing the investigation into the extent of Russia’s involvement in spreading misinformation in the US in order to help trump get elected", ">\n\nThat’s so true. The media is much to blame, but so are Democratic spokespeople, who are so anxious to explain their own “brilliant” unique take on whatever issue is being discussed, they forget that repetition is key to convincing the public. How they were unable to make more hay from the Mueller report is one of the great mysteries of the age. The other is how they failed to capitalize on Biden’s leadership on Ukraine to boost his ratings and their own.", ">\n\nYeah why actually explaining the issues to the American people when empty slogans work better.", ">\n\nPetty little putz, not mention just an asshole.", ">\n\nIf anyone dug into it, I’d wager he killed his own brother", ">\n\nHis father did a pretty good job of that even without any help from Donald.", ">\n\nHe is a 70 year old toddler in mid sugar meltdown 24/7.", ">\n\n76 year old toddler.", ">\n\nI wonder if Americans truly understand the damage this man did to their international credibility. Just the sheer amount of things he did for nothing more than spite made America look petty af\nIt will be a long time before I ever feel I can trust the country again after Trump had my home country (and long time ally to the USA) Canada labeled an official threat to US National security, all so that he could push thru his tariffs against my country without Congress approval. \nCanada is now officially on the records sitting next to the Taliban, Iran nuclear ambitions and Al Quaeda, threats to the United States existence; that's where Trump officially placed us. \nThen he attempts a violent insurrection which he still has yet to see any repurcussions for.... But yet Canada's still on that list", ">\n\nSome of us do. This particular petty thing he did to Canada is bad enough, but when he withdrew from the Paris climate accords and the Iran nuclear deal, he showed the world that the United States couldn’t be trusted to keep its word. If the commitments of the US can’t be trusted to outlast the current administration, why the fuck would any country make any agreements with us? It will take decades of continuous promise keeping to restore the international confidence in our word that Trump causally threw in trash. The maga-morons think trump restored international respect for us. I’m not sure that the damage trump did to this country both internally and internationally can ever be repaired", ">\n\nYou put it far more succinctly than I ever could. I forgot about the Paris agreement, but his backing out of the Iran deal really confused me. If you think they might make nuclear weapons, why destroy the entire agreement that safeguarded against that, essentially letting Iran now do whatever they wanted", ">\n\nBecause Obama negotiated it. Trump tried to undo everything Obama accomplished from shear spite. We elected a temper tantrum throwing toddler as president. There’s no more point in trying to see logic in anything trump did than there is in reasoning with a 2 year old. I have argued and still believe that you could pick any random adult off any street in any town or city in the country and there would be a 90% chance that whoever you got would be a better president than trump. Believe me, some of us realize how much damage he did. But the fact that anyone would vote to re-elect this man, let alone the numbers who did, is a stinging indictment of the intelligence of the American people. At the time, I thought it would be impossible for anyone to be a worst president than Bush, jr., but compared to trump, W was fantastic, and I’d never have believed I’d ever say this if you had told me in 2007 that I would someday say this", ">\n\nHe was still fired and I doubt Melania gave 2 Fs whether the dude got fired 3 weeks to go or three days to go. That whole family AND Stephanie “multiple DUIs” Grisham are scum", ">\n\nFuck trump", ">\n\nHow dare that guy do the job he is paid to do.....", ">\n\nOf all the crap I believe about this man, this one rings total and truthful. Zero doubt in my mind.", ">\n\nNothing is too petty for Trump.", ">\n\nSuch a petty piece of shit.", ">\n\nThe pettiness is just mind-boggling. No respect for anyone", ">\n\nLeave Usher alone!", ">\n\nSuch a crass tacky uncouth person. Ugh", ">\n\nThis is full-on temper tantrum.", ">\n\nTrump is a fucking asshole.", ">\n\nI’m not even gonna read the article. I’ll just assume it was grammy winner artist Usher.", ">\n\nUshaaaa, Ushaaaa", ">\n\nI wouldn’t put it past this man to leave a steaming pile of Trump in the toilet before leaving the grounds.", ">\n\nThe most petty, infantile, pathetic POTUS we ever had, by far.", ">\n\nI wager he left him an unflushed toilet, too.\nIt’s the kind of petty shit he lives for.", ">\n\nI’m just a humble Redditor. I want someone with more mojo to create a thread somewhere on r/fednews or the like to tell disloyal Secret Service people how angry I am at them. \nI have no problem with whatever honest money we spend to protect Trump and his family, if that’s really what we need to spend. But the trade-off is that the Secret Service should be as loyal to presidents they dislike as I am to security spending for the Trumps.", ">\n\nTo which he replied, \"how the hell am I supposed to leave?\"", ">\n\nTalk about “small dick energy”…sheesh" ]

[ "That he wanted the dude fired isn't really newsworthy, but how he learned about the usher meeting with Biden is. The Secret Service told him. That means at least one of the Secret Service agents assigned to protect Biden at that time was sharing information he learned while on the job with Trump's people. No wonder there have been reports of Biden being careful of what he says around the Secret Service.", ">\n\nI still don’t understand how Biden hasn’t cleared out the SS.", ">\n\nIt’s a group of very specially skilled, highly trained people. They can’t easily replace the entire detail and even if he did with agents from other areas, there’s no telling that would be any better.\nHis only other good option may be a military detail and that comes with its own host of issues.", ">\n\nHaving a group of specially skilled, highly trained people betraying your interests to work against you sounds like it would be worse than having a less skilled less trained force that is actually loyal.", ">\n\nThat's just choosing between the devil you know and the devil you don't.\nYou can't know what level of exposure you will get with a green member of staff. An experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.", ">\n\n\nAn experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.\n\nAre you seriously suggesting that literal traitors would be better bodyguards for the president than noobs (only relatively speaking, since there are plenty of non-career-USSS folks who have done personal protection duty before) would, because traitors know how to cover their tracks? Or am I radically misunderstanding you? Because if I understood you correctly then that sounds like insanity.\nWe might as well resurrect John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald and have them guard our president. They really knew what they were doing.", ">\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk and not a physical threat to any government worker.\nAny of the agents will also not have the history of a Confederate or a USSR defector respectively.\nThey would need some proof of a threat that they pose, or at least some indication that they are disregarding their duties before replacing them with someone less effective.\nThey are managing a rumor mill.", ">\n\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk\n\nIf it were only infosec that had ever been in question, I might ageee with you. But trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\nAnd also, there’s not really such a thing as only an infosec risk when it comes to presidential security. Intentionally giving information about Biden’s activities to parties you know have hostile intentions toward him obviously poses a physical security risk.\nEdited to remove autocorrect of “infosec” to “informed.”", ">\n\n\nBut trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\n\nIf the agents that made those decisions are still employed that's interesting. If they can't figure out exactly who was progressing the plot that really sucks.\nI don't think they can afford to clean house if this is the case.", ">\n\nTrump never grasped how transition works even though multiple people explained it to him. \nBasically, if Trump really doesn't like something, he's going to refuse to listen or try to understand.\n\nUltimately, Harleth was fired on Inauguration Day even before the Bidens officially moved into the White House\nSince there was no hired usher at the time of their arrival, the Bidens were greeted with a set of closed doors on the North Portico. Typically, the doors would have been held open for the first family.\n\nI'm sure Donald Trump got some smug satisfaction out of that. \nAs I understood it, the crew was still deep-cleaning the place as per Biden's request. Donald probably tried to stop them from doing their jobs as well.", ">\n\nI’d forgotten about that. A book containing a one sentence description of every horrible/embarrassing/stupid thing trump and his family did in those four years would be too heavy to lift.", ">\n\nI’ve long thought that the number of scandals was part of the problem with the American people realizing how corrupt trump was. No scandal got sufficient coverage because a new one would come up. It’s hard to do the equivalent of Benghazi, Benghazi for years as republicans did when something new comes up nearly every damn day. People didn’t have time to fully understand any of the things he did because he’d do something new. It also didn’t help that the media gave as much attention to an inappropriate tweet as they did to extorting the leader of a foreign nation for political gain. His tweeting was repulsive, but the fact that he picked middle school fights with celebrities hardly compares in significance with obstructing the investigation into the extent of Russia’s involvement in spreading misinformation in the US in order to help trump get elected", ">\n\nThat’s so true. The media is much to blame, but so are Democratic spokespeople, who are so anxious to explain their own “brilliant” unique take on whatever issue is being discussed, they forget that repetition is key to convincing the public. How they were unable to make more hay from the Mueller report is one of the great mysteries of the age. The other is how they failed to capitalize on Biden’s leadership on Ukraine to boost his ratings and their own.", ">\n\nYeah why actually explaining the issues to the American people when empty slogans work better.", ">\n\nPetty little putz, not mention just an asshole.", ">\n\nIf anyone dug into it, I’d wager he killed his own brother", ">\n\nHis father did a pretty good job of that even without any help from Donald.", ">\n\nHe is a 70 year old toddler in mid sugar meltdown 24/7.", ">\n\n76 year old toddler.", ">\n\nI wonder if Americans truly understand the damage this man did to their international credibility. Just the sheer amount of things he did for nothing more than spite made America look petty af\nIt will be a long time before I ever feel I can trust the country again after Trump had my home country (and long time ally to the USA) Canada labeled an official threat to US National security, all so that he could push thru his tariffs against my country without Congress approval. \nCanada is now officially on the records sitting next to the Taliban, Iran nuclear ambitions and Al Quaeda, threats to the United States existence; that's where Trump officially placed us. \nThen he attempts a violent insurrection which he still has yet to see any repurcussions for.... But yet Canada's still on that list", ">\n\nSome of us do. This particular petty thing he did to Canada is bad enough, but when he withdrew from the Paris climate accords and the Iran nuclear deal, he showed the world that the United States couldn’t be trusted to keep its word. If the commitments of the US can’t be trusted to outlast the current administration, why the fuck would any country make any agreements with us? It will take decades of continuous promise keeping to restore the international confidence in our word that Trump causally threw in trash. The maga-morons think trump restored international respect for us. I’m not sure that the damage trump did to this country both internally and internationally can ever be repaired", ">\n\nYou put it far more succinctly than I ever could. I forgot about the Paris agreement, but his backing out of the Iran deal really confused me. If you think they might make nuclear weapons, why destroy the entire agreement that safeguarded against that, essentially letting Iran now do whatever they wanted", ">\n\nBecause Obama negotiated it. Trump tried to undo everything Obama accomplished from shear spite. We elected a temper tantrum throwing toddler as president. There’s no more point in trying to see logic in anything trump did than there is in reasoning with a 2 year old. I have argued and still believe that you could pick any random adult off any street in any town or city in the country and there would be a 90% chance that whoever you got would be a better president than trump. Believe me, some of us realize how much damage he did. But the fact that anyone would vote to re-elect this man, let alone the numbers who did, is a stinging indictment of the intelligence of the American people. At the time, I thought it would be impossible for anyone to be a worst president than Bush, jr., but compared to trump, W was fantastic, and I’d never have believed I’d ever say this if you had told me in 2007 that I would someday say this", ">\n\nHe was still fired and I doubt Melania gave 2 Fs whether the dude got fired 3 weeks to go or three days to go. That whole family AND Stephanie “multiple DUIs” Grisham are scum", ">\n\nFuck trump", ">\n\nHow dare that guy do the job he is paid to do.....", ">\n\nOf all the crap I believe about this man, this one rings total and truthful. Zero doubt in my mind.", ">\n\nNothing is too petty for Trump.", ">\n\nSuch a petty piece of shit.", ">\n\nThe pettiness is just mind-boggling. No respect for anyone", ">\n\nLeave Usher alone!", ">\n\nSuch a crass tacky uncouth person. Ugh", ">\n\nThis is full-on temper tantrum.", ">\n\nTrump is a fucking asshole.", ">\n\nI’m not even gonna read the article. I’ll just assume it was grammy winner artist Usher.", ">\n\nUshaaaa, Ushaaaa", ">\n\nI wouldn’t put it past this man to leave a steaming pile of Trump in the toilet before leaving the grounds.", ">\n\nThe most petty, infantile, pathetic POTUS we ever had, by far.", ">\n\nI wager he left him an unflushed toilet, too.\nIt’s the kind of petty shit he lives for.", ">\n\nI’m just a humble Redditor. I want someone with more mojo to create a thread somewhere on r/fednews or the like to tell disloyal Secret Service people how angry I am at them. \nI have no problem with whatever honest money we spend to protect Trump and his family, if that’s really what we need to spend. But the trade-off is that the Secret Service should be as loyal to presidents they dislike as I am to security spending for the Trumps.", ">\n\nTo which he replied, \"how the hell am I supposed to leave?\"", ">\n\nTalk about “small dick energy”…sheesh", ">\n\nUsher is so 90's/2000 he should be canceled at this point." ]

[ "That he wanted the dude fired isn't really newsworthy, but how he learned about the usher meeting with Biden is. The Secret Service told him. That means at least one of the Secret Service agents assigned to protect Biden at that time was sharing information he learned while on the job with Trump's people. No wonder there have been reports of Biden being careful of what he says around the Secret Service.", ">\n\nI still don’t understand how Biden hasn’t cleared out the SS.", ">\n\nIt’s a group of very specially skilled, highly trained people. They can’t easily replace the entire detail and even if he did with agents from other areas, there’s no telling that would be any better.\nHis only other good option may be a military detail and that comes with its own host of issues.", ">\n\nHaving a group of specially skilled, highly trained people betraying your interests to work against you sounds like it would be worse than having a less skilled less trained force that is actually loyal.", ">\n\nThat's just choosing between the devil you know and the devil you don't.\nYou can't know what level of exposure you will get with a green member of staff. An experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.", ">\n\n\nAn experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.\n\nAre you seriously suggesting that literal traitors would be better bodyguards for the president than noobs (only relatively speaking, since there are plenty of non-career-USSS folks who have done personal protection duty before) would, because traitors know how to cover their tracks? Or am I radically misunderstanding you? Because if I understood you correctly then that sounds like insanity.\nWe might as well resurrect John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald and have them guard our president. They really knew what they were doing.", ">\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk and not a physical threat to any government worker.\nAny of the agents will also not have the history of a Confederate or a USSR defector respectively.\nThey would need some proof of a threat that they pose, or at least some indication that they are disregarding their duties before replacing them with someone less effective.\nThey are managing a rumor mill.", ">\n\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk\n\nIf it were only infosec that had ever been in question, I might ageee with you. But trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\nAnd also, there’s not really such a thing as only an infosec risk when it comes to presidential security. Intentionally giving information about Biden’s activities to parties you know have hostile intentions toward him obviously poses a physical security risk.\nEdited to remove autocorrect of “infosec” to “informed.”", ">\n\n\nBut trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\n\nIf the agents that made those decisions are still employed that's interesting. If they can't figure out exactly who was progressing the plot that really sucks.\nI don't think they can afford to clean house if this is the case.", ">\n\nTrump never grasped how transition works even though multiple people explained it to him. \nBasically, if Trump really doesn't like something, he's going to refuse to listen or try to understand.\n\nUltimately, Harleth was fired on Inauguration Day even before the Bidens officially moved into the White House\nSince there was no hired usher at the time of their arrival, the Bidens were greeted with a set of closed doors on the North Portico. Typically, the doors would have been held open for the first family.\n\nI'm sure Donald Trump got some smug satisfaction out of that. \nAs I understood it, the crew was still deep-cleaning the place as per Biden's request. Donald probably tried to stop them from doing their jobs as well.", ">\n\nI’d forgotten about that. A book containing a one sentence description of every horrible/embarrassing/stupid thing trump and his family did in those four years would be too heavy to lift.", ">\n\nI’ve long thought that the number of scandals was part of the problem with the American people realizing how corrupt trump was. No scandal got sufficient coverage because a new one would come up. It’s hard to do the equivalent of Benghazi, Benghazi for years as republicans did when something new comes up nearly every damn day. People didn’t have time to fully understand any of the things he did because he’d do something new. It also didn’t help that the media gave as much attention to an inappropriate tweet as they did to extorting the leader of a foreign nation for political gain. His tweeting was repulsive, but the fact that he picked middle school fights with celebrities hardly compares in significance with obstructing the investigation into the extent of Russia’s involvement in spreading misinformation in the US in order to help trump get elected", ">\n\nThat’s so true. The media is much to blame, but so are Democratic spokespeople, who are so anxious to explain their own “brilliant” unique take on whatever issue is being discussed, they forget that repetition is key to convincing the public. How they were unable to make more hay from the Mueller report is one of the great mysteries of the age. The other is how they failed to capitalize on Biden’s leadership on Ukraine to boost his ratings and their own.", ">\n\nYeah why actually explaining the issues to the American people when empty slogans work better.", ">\n\nPetty little putz, not mention just an asshole.", ">\n\nIf anyone dug into it, I’d wager he killed his own brother", ">\n\nHis father did a pretty good job of that even without any help from Donald.", ">\n\nHe is a 70 year old toddler in mid sugar meltdown 24/7.", ">\n\n76 year old toddler.", ">\n\nI wonder if Americans truly understand the damage this man did to their international credibility. Just the sheer amount of things he did for nothing more than spite made America look petty af\nIt will be a long time before I ever feel I can trust the country again after Trump had my home country (and long time ally to the USA) Canada labeled an official threat to US National security, all so that he could push thru his tariffs against my country without Congress approval. \nCanada is now officially on the records sitting next to the Taliban, Iran nuclear ambitions and Al Quaeda, threats to the United States existence; that's where Trump officially placed us. \nThen he attempts a violent insurrection which he still has yet to see any repurcussions for.... But yet Canada's still on that list", ">\n\nSome of us do. This particular petty thing he did to Canada is bad enough, but when he withdrew from the Paris climate accords and the Iran nuclear deal, he showed the world that the United States couldn’t be trusted to keep its word. If the commitments of the US can’t be trusted to outlast the current administration, why the fuck would any country make any agreements with us? It will take decades of continuous promise keeping to restore the international confidence in our word that Trump causally threw in trash. The maga-morons think trump restored international respect for us. I’m not sure that the damage trump did to this country both internally and internationally can ever be repaired", ">\n\nYou put it far more succinctly than I ever could. I forgot about the Paris agreement, but his backing out of the Iran deal really confused me. If you think they might make nuclear weapons, why destroy the entire agreement that safeguarded against that, essentially letting Iran now do whatever they wanted", ">\n\nBecause Obama negotiated it. Trump tried to undo everything Obama accomplished from shear spite. We elected a temper tantrum throwing toddler as president. There’s no more point in trying to see logic in anything trump did than there is in reasoning with a 2 year old. I have argued and still believe that you could pick any random adult off any street in any town or city in the country and there would be a 90% chance that whoever you got would be a better president than trump. Believe me, some of us realize how much damage he did. But the fact that anyone would vote to re-elect this man, let alone the numbers who did, is a stinging indictment of the intelligence of the American people. At the time, I thought it would be impossible for anyone to be a worst president than Bush, jr., but compared to trump, W was fantastic, and I’d never have believed I’d ever say this if you had told me in 2007 that I would someday say this", ">\n\nHe was still fired and I doubt Melania gave 2 Fs whether the dude got fired 3 weeks to go or three days to go. That whole family AND Stephanie “multiple DUIs” Grisham are scum", ">\n\nFuck trump", ">\n\nHow dare that guy do the job he is paid to do.....", ">\n\nOf all the crap I believe about this man, this one rings total and truthful. Zero doubt in my mind.", ">\n\nNothing is too petty for Trump.", ">\n\nSuch a petty piece of shit.", ">\n\nThe pettiness is just mind-boggling. No respect for anyone", ">\n\nLeave Usher alone!", ">\n\nSuch a crass tacky uncouth person. Ugh", ">\n\nThis is full-on temper tantrum.", ">\n\nTrump is a fucking asshole.", ">\n\nI’m not even gonna read the article. I’ll just assume it was grammy winner artist Usher.", ">\n\nUshaaaa, Ushaaaa", ">\n\nI wouldn’t put it past this man to leave a steaming pile of Trump in the toilet before leaving the grounds.", ">\n\nThe most petty, infantile, pathetic POTUS we ever had, by far.", ">\n\nI wager he left him an unflushed toilet, too.\nIt’s the kind of petty shit he lives for.", ">\n\nI’m just a humble Redditor. I want someone with more mojo to create a thread somewhere on r/fednews or the like to tell disloyal Secret Service people how angry I am at them. \nI have no problem with whatever honest money we spend to protect Trump and his family, if that’s really what we need to spend. But the trade-off is that the Secret Service should be as loyal to presidents they dislike as I am to security spending for the Trumps.", ">\n\nTo which he replied, \"how the hell am I supposed to leave?\"", ">\n\nTalk about “small dick energy”…sheesh", ">\n\nUsher is so 90's/2000 he should be canceled at this point.", ">\n\nYeah!" ]

[ "That he wanted the dude fired isn't really newsworthy, but how he learned about the usher meeting with Biden is. The Secret Service told him. That means at least one of the Secret Service agents assigned to protect Biden at that time was sharing information he learned while on the job with Trump's people. No wonder there have been reports of Biden being careful of what he says around the Secret Service.", ">\n\nI still don’t understand how Biden hasn’t cleared out the SS.", ">\n\nIt’s a group of very specially skilled, highly trained people. They can’t easily replace the entire detail and even if he did with agents from other areas, there’s no telling that would be any better.\nHis only other good option may be a military detail and that comes with its own host of issues.", ">\n\nHaving a group of specially skilled, highly trained people betraying your interests to work against you sounds like it would be worse than having a less skilled less trained force that is actually loyal.", ">\n\nThat's just choosing between the devil you know and the devil you don't.\nYou can't know what level of exposure you will get with a green member of staff. An experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.", ">\n\n\nAn experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.\n\nAre you seriously suggesting that literal traitors would be better bodyguards for the president than noobs (only relatively speaking, since there are plenty of non-career-USSS folks who have done personal protection duty before) would, because traitors know how to cover their tracks? Or am I radically misunderstanding you? Because if I understood you correctly then that sounds like insanity.\nWe might as well resurrect John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald and have them guard our president. They really knew what they were doing.", ">\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk and not a physical threat to any government worker.\nAny of the agents will also not have the history of a Confederate or a USSR defector respectively.\nThey would need some proof of a threat that they pose, or at least some indication that they are disregarding their duties before replacing them with someone less effective.\nThey are managing a rumor mill.", ">\n\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk\n\nIf it were only infosec that had ever been in question, I might ageee with you. But trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\nAnd also, there’s not really such a thing as only an infosec risk when it comes to presidential security. Intentionally giving information about Biden’s activities to parties you know have hostile intentions toward him obviously poses a physical security risk.\nEdited to remove autocorrect of “infosec” to “informed.”", ">\n\n\nBut trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\n\nIf the agents that made those decisions are still employed that's interesting. If they can't figure out exactly who was progressing the plot that really sucks.\nI don't think they can afford to clean house if this is the case.", ">\n\nTrump never grasped how transition works even though multiple people explained it to him. \nBasically, if Trump really doesn't like something, he's going to refuse to listen or try to understand.\n\nUltimately, Harleth was fired on Inauguration Day even before the Bidens officially moved into the White House\nSince there was no hired usher at the time of their arrival, the Bidens were greeted with a set of closed doors on the North Portico. Typically, the doors would have been held open for the first family.\n\nI'm sure Donald Trump got some smug satisfaction out of that. \nAs I understood it, the crew was still deep-cleaning the place as per Biden's request. Donald probably tried to stop them from doing their jobs as well.", ">\n\nI’d forgotten about that. A book containing a one sentence description of every horrible/embarrassing/stupid thing trump and his family did in those four years would be too heavy to lift.", ">\n\nI’ve long thought that the number of scandals was part of the problem with the American people realizing how corrupt trump was. No scandal got sufficient coverage because a new one would come up. It’s hard to do the equivalent of Benghazi, Benghazi for years as republicans did when something new comes up nearly every damn day. People didn’t have time to fully understand any of the things he did because he’d do something new. It also didn’t help that the media gave as much attention to an inappropriate tweet as they did to extorting the leader of a foreign nation for political gain. His tweeting was repulsive, but the fact that he picked middle school fights with celebrities hardly compares in significance with obstructing the investigation into the extent of Russia’s involvement in spreading misinformation in the US in order to help trump get elected", ">\n\nThat’s so true. The media is much to blame, but so are Democratic spokespeople, who are so anxious to explain their own “brilliant” unique take on whatever issue is being discussed, they forget that repetition is key to convincing the public. How they were unable to make more hay from the Mueller report is one of the great mysteries of the age. The other is how they failed to capitalize on Biden’s leadership on Ukraine to boost his ratings and their own.", ">\n\nYeah why actually explaining the issues to the American people when empty slogans work better.", ">\n\nPetty little putz, not mention just an asshole.", ">\n\nIf anyone dug into it, I’d wager he killed his own brother", ">\n\nHis father did a pretty good job of that even without any help from Donald.", ">\n\nHe is a 70 year old toddler in mid sugar meltdown 24/7.", ">\n\n76 year old toddler.", ">\n\nI wonder if Americans truly understand the damage this man did to their international credibility. Just the sheer amount of things he did for nothing more than spite made America look petty af\nIt will be a long time before I ever feel I can trust the country again after Trump had my home country (and long time ally to the USA) Canada labeled an official threat to US National security, all so that he could push thru his tariffs against my country without Congress approval. \nCanada is now officially on the records sitting next to the Taliban, Iran nuclear ambitions and Al Quaeda, threats to the United States existence; that's where Trump officially placed us. \nThen he attempts a violent insurrection which he still has yet to see any repurcussions for.... But yet Canada's still on that list", ">\n\nSome of us do. This particular petty thing he did to Canada is bad enough, but when he withdrew from the Paris climate accords and the Iran nuclear deal, he showed the world that the United States couldn’t be trusted to keep its word. If the commitments of the US can’t be trusted to outlast the current administration, why the fuck would any country make any agreements with us? It will take decades of continuous promise keeping to restore the international confidence in our word that Trump causally threw in trash. The maga-morons think trump restored international respect for us. I’m not sure that the damage trump did to this country both internally and internationally can ever be repaired", ">\n\nYou put it far more succinctly than I ever could. I forgot about the Paris agreement, but his backing out of the Iran deal really confused me. If you think they might make nuclear weapons, why destroy the entire agreement that safeguarded against that, essentially letting Iran now do whatever they wanted", ">\n\nBecause Obama negotiated it. Trump tried to undo everything Obama accomplished from shear spite. We elected a temper tantrum throwing toddler as president. There’s no more point in trying to see logic in anything trump did than there is in reasoning with a 2 year old. I have argued and still believe that you could pick any random adult off any street in any town or city in the country and there would be a 90% chance that whoever you got would be a better president than trump. Believe me, some of us realize how much damage he did. But the fact that anyone would vote to re-elect this man, let alone the numbers who did, is a stinging indictment of the intelligence of the American people. At the time, I thought it would be impossible for anyone to be a worst president than Bush, jr., but compared to trump, W was fantastic, and I’d never have believed I’d ever say this if you had told me in 2007 that I would someday say this", ">\n\nHe was still fired and I doubt Melania gave 2 Fs whether the dude got fired 3 weeks to go or three days to go. That whole family AND Stephanie “multiple DUIs” Grisham are scum", ">\n\nFuck trump", ">\n\nHow dare that guy do the job he is paid to do.....", ">\n\nOf all the crap I believe about this man, this one rings total and truthful. Zero doubt in my mind.", ">\n\nNothing is too petty for Trump.", ">\n\nSuch a petty piece of shit.", ">\n\nThe pettiness is just mind-boggling. No respect for anyone", ">\n\nLeave Usher alone!", ">\n\nSuch a crass tacky uncouth person. Ugh", ">\n\nThis is full-on temper tantrum.", ">\n\nTrump is a fucking asshole.", ">\n\nI’m not even gonna read the article. I’ll just assume it was grammy winner artist Usher.", ">\n\nUshaaaa, Ushaaaa", ">\n\nI wouldn’t put it past this man to leave a steaming pile of Trump in the toilet before leaving the grounds.", ">\n\nThe most petty, infantile, pathetic POTUS we ever had, by far.", ">\n\nI wager he left him an unflushed toilet, too.\nIt’s the kind of petty shit he lives for.", ">\n\nI’m just a humble Redditor. I want someone with more mojo to create a thread somewhere on r/fednews or the like to tell disloyal Secret Service people how angry I am at them. \nI have no problem with whatever honest money we spend to protect Trump and his family, if that’s really what we need to spend. But the trade-off is that the Secret Service should be as loyal to presidents they dislike as I am to security spending for the Trumps.", ">\n\nTo which he replied, \"how the hell am I supposed to leave?\"", ">\n\nTalk about “small dick energy”…sheesh", ">\n\nUsher is so 90's/2000 he should be canceled at this point.", ">\n\nYeah!", ">\n\nUSHER WORKED FOR HIM??? /s" ]

[ "That he wanted the dude fired isn't really newsworthy, but how he learned about the usher meeting with Biden is. The Secret Service told him. That means at least one of the Secret Service agents assigned to protect Biden at that time was sharing information he learned while on the job with Trump's people. No wonder there have been reports of Biden being careful of what he says around the Secret Service.", ">\n\nI still don’t understand how Biden hasn’t cleared out the SS.", ">\n\nIt’s a group of very specially skilled, highly trained people. They can’t easily replace the entire detail and even if he did with agents from other areas, there’s no telling that would be any better.\nHis only other good option may be a military detail and that comes with its own host of issues.", ">\n\nHaving a group of specially skilled, highly trained people betraying your interests to work against you sounds like it would be worse than having a less skilled less trained force that is actually loyal.", ">\n\nThat's just choosing between the devil you know and the devil you don't.\nYou can't know what level of exposure you will get with a green member of staff. An experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.", ">\n\n\nAn experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.\n\nAre you seriously suggesting that literal traitors would be better bodyguards for the president than noobs (only relatively speaking, since there are plenty of non-career-USSS folks who have done personal protection duty before) would, because traitors know how to cover their tracks? Or am I radically misunderstanding you? Because if I understood you correctly then that sounds like insanity.\nWe might as well resurrect John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald and have them guard our president. They really knew what they were doing.", ">\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk and not a physical threat to any government worker.\nAny of the agents will also not have the history of a Confederate or a USSR defector respectively.\nThey would need some proof of a threat that they pose, or at least some indication that they are disregarding their duties before replacing them with someone less effective.\nThey are managing a rumor mill.", ">\n\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk\n\nIf it were only infosec that had ever been in question, I might ageee with you. But trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\nAnd also, there’s not really such a thing as only an infosec risk when it comes to presidential security. Intentionally giving information about Biden’s activities to parties you know have hostile intentions toward him obviously poses a physical security risk.\nEdited to remove autocorrect of “infosec” to “informed.”", ">\n\n\nBut trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\n\nIf the agents that made those decisions are still employed that's interesting. If they can't figure out exactly who was progressing the plot that really sucks.\nI don't think they can afford to clean house if this is the case.", ">\n\nTrump never grasped how transition works even though multiple people explained it to him. \nBasically, if Trump really doesn't like something, he's going to refuse to listen or try to understand.\n\nUltimately, Harleth was fired on Inauguration Day even before the Bidens officially moved into the White House\nSince there was no hired usher at the time of their arrival, the Bidens were greeted with a set of closed doors on the North Portico. Typically, the doors would have been held open for the first family.\n\nI'm sure Donald Trump got some smug satisfaction out of that. \nAs I understood it, the crew was still deep-cleaning the place as per Biden's request. Donald probably tried to stop them from doing their jobs as well.", ">\n\nI’d forgotten about that. A book containing a one sentence description of every horrible/embarrassing/stupid thing trump and his family did in those four years would be too heavy to lift.", ">\n\nI’ve long thought that the number of scandals was part of the problem with the American people realizing how corrupt trump was. No scandal got sufficient coverage because a new one would come up. It’s hard to do the equivalent of Benghazi, Benghazi for years as republicans did when something new comes up nearly every damn day. People didn’t have time to fully understand any of the things he did because he’d do something new. It also didn’t help that the media gave as much attention to an inappropriate tweet as they did to extorting the leader of a foreign nation for political gain. His tweeting was repulsive, but the fact that he picked middle school fights with celebrities hardly compares in significance with obstructing the investigation into the extent of Russia’s involvement in spreading misinformation in the US in order to help trump get elected", ">\n\nThat’s so true. The media is much to blame, but so are Democratic spokespeople, who are so anxious to explain their own “brilliant” unique take on whatever issue is being discussed, they forget that repetition is key to convincing the public. How they were unable to make more hay from the Mueller report is one of the great mysteries of the age. The other is how they failed to capitalize on Biden’s leadership on Ukraine to boost his ratings and their own.", ">\n\nYeah why actually explaining the issues to the American people when empty slogans work better.", ">\n\nPetty little putz, not mention just an asshole.", ">\n\nIf anyone dug into it, I’d wager he killed his own brother", ">\n\nHis father did a pretty good job of that even without any help from Donald.", ">\n\nHe is a 70 year old toddler in mid sugar meltdown 24/7.", ">\n\n76 year old toddler.", ">\n\nI wonder if Americans truly understand the damage this man did to their international credibility. Just the sheer amount of things he did for nothing more than spite made America look petty af\nIt will be a long time before I ever feel I can trust the country again after Trump had my home country (and long time ally to the USA) Canada labeled an official threat to US National security, all so that he could push thru his tariffs against my country without Congress approval. \nCanada is now officially on the records sitting next to the Taliban, Iran nuclear ambitions and Al Quaeda, threats to the United States existence; that's where Trump officially placed us. \nThen he attempts a violent insurrection which he still has yet to see any repurcussions for.... But yet Canada's still on that list", ">\n\nSome of us do. This particular petty thing he did to Canada is bad enough, but when he withdrew from the Paris climate accords and the Iran nuclear deal, he showed the world that the United States couldn’t be trusted to keep its word. If the commitments of the US can’t be trusted to outlast the current administration, why the fuck would any country make any agreements with us? It will take decades of continuous promise keeping to restore the international confidence in our word that Trump causally threw in trash. The maga-morons think trump restored international respect for us. I’m not sure that the damage trump did to this country both internally and internationally can ever be repaired", ">\n\nYou put it far more succinctly than I ever could. I forgot about the Paris agreement, but his backing out of the Iran deal really confused me. If you think they might make nuclear weapons, why destroy the entire agreement that safeguarded against that, essentially letting Iran now do whatever they wanted", ">\n\nBecause Obama negotiated it. Trump tried to undo everything Obama accomplished from shear spite. We elected a temper tantrum throwing toddler as president. There’s no more point in trying to see logic in anything trump did than there is in reasoning with a 2 year old. I have argued and still believe that you could pick any random adult off any street in any town or city in the country and there would be a 90% chance that whoever you got would be a better president than trump. Believe me, some of us realize how much damage he did. But the fact that anyone would vote to re-elect this man, let alone the numbers who did, is a stinging indictment of the intelligence of the American people. At the time, I thought it would be impossible for anyone to be a worst president than Bush, jr., but compared to trump, W was fantastic, and I’d never have believed I’d ever say this if you had told me in 2007 that I would someday say this", ">\n\nHe was still fired and I doubt Melania gave 2 Fs whether the dude got fired 3 weeks to go or three days to go. That whole family AND Stephanie “multiple DUIs” Grisham are scum", ">\n\nFuck trump", ">\n\nHow dare that guy do the job he is paid to do.....", ">\n\nOf all the crap I believe about this man, this one rings total and truthful. Zero doubt in my mind.", ">\n\nNothing is too petty for Trump.", ">\n\nSuch a petty piece of shit.", ">\n\nThe pettiness is just mind-boggling. No respect for anyone", ">\n\nLeave Usher alone!", ">\n\nSuch a crass tacky uncouth person. Ugh", ">\n\nThis is full-on temper tantrum.", ">\n\nTrump is a fucking asshole.", ">\n\nI’m not even gonna read the article. I’ll just assume it was grammy winner artist Usher.", ">\n\nUshaaaa, Ushaaaa", ">\n\nI wouldn’t put it past this man to leave a steaming pile of Trump in the toilet before leaving the grounds.", ">\n\nThe most petty, infantile, pathetic POTUS we ever had, by far.", ">\n\nI wager he left him an unflushed toilet, too.\nIt’s the kind of petty shit he lives for.", ">\n\nI’m just a humble Redditor. I want someone with more mojo to create a thread somewhere on r/fednews or the like to tell disloyal Secret Service people how angry I am at them. \nI have no problem with whatever honest money we spend to protect Trump and his family, if that’s really what we need to spend. But the trade-off is that the Secret Service should be as loyal to presidents they dislike as I am to security spending for the Trumps.", ">\n\nTo which he replied, \"how the hell am I supposed to leave?\"", ">\n\nTalk about “small dick energy”…sheesh", ">\n\nUsher is so 90's/2000 he should be canceled at this point.", ">\n\nYeah!", ">\n\nUSHER WORKED FOR HIM??? /s", ">\n\nNever knew Usher worked there…" ]

[ "That he wanted the dude fired isn't really newsworthy, but how he learned about the usher meeting with Biden is. The Secret Service told him. That means at least one of the Secret Service agents assigned to protect Biden at that time was sharing information he learned while on the job with Trump's people. No wonder there have been reports of Biden being careful of what he says around the Secret Service.", ">\n\nI still don’t understand how Biden hasn’t cleared out the SS.", ">\n\nIt’s a group of very specially skilled, highly trained people. They can’t easily replace the entire detail and even if he did with agents from other areas, there’s no telling that would be any better.\nHis only other good option may be a military detail and that comes with its own host of issues.", ">\n\nHaving a group of specially skilled, highly trained people betraying your interests to work against you sounds like it would be worse than having a less skilled less trained force that is actually loyal.", ">\n\nThat's just choosing between the devil you know and the devil you don't.\nYou can't know what level of exposure you will get with a green member of staff. An experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.", ">\n\n\nAn experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.\n\nAre you seriously suggesting that literal traitors would be better bodyguards for the president than noobs (only relatively speaking, since there are plenty of non-career-USSS folks who have done personal protection duty before) would, because traitors know how to cover their tracks? Or am I radically misunderstanding you? Because if I understood you correctly then that sounds like insanity.\nWe might as well resurrect John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald and have them guard our president. They really knew what they were doing.", ">\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk and not a physical threat to any government worker.\nAny of the agents will also not have the history of a Confederate or a USSR defector respectively.\nThey would need some proof of a threat that they pose, or at least some indication that they are disregarding their duties before replacing them with someone less effective.\nThey are managing a rumor mill.", ">\n\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk\n\nIf it were only infosec that had ever been in question, I might ageee with you. But trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\nAnd also, there’s not really such a thing as only an infosec risk when it comes to presidential security. Intentionally giving information about Biden’s activities to parties you know have hostile intentions toward him obviously poses a physical security risk.\nEdited to remove autocorrect of “infosec” to “informed.”", ">\n\n\nBut trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\n\nIf the agents that made those decisions are still employed that's interesting. If they can't figure out exactly who was progressing the plot that really sucks.\nI don't think they can afford to clean house if this is the case.", ">\n\nTrump never grasped how transition works even though multiple people explained it to him. \nBasically, if Trump really doesn't like something, he's going to refuse to listen or try to understand.\n\nUltimately, Harleth was fired on Inauguration Day even before the Bidens officially moved into the White House\nSince there was no hired usher at the time of their arrival, the Bidens were greeted with a set of closed doors on the North Portico. Typically, the doors would have been held open for the first family.\n\nI'm sure Donald Trump got some smug satisfaction out of that. \nAs I understood it, the crew was still deep-cleaning the place as per Biden's request. Donald probably tried to stop them from doing their jobs as well.", ">\n\nI’d forgotten about that. A book containing a one sentence description of every horrible/embarrassing/stupid thing trump and his family did in those four years would be too heavy to lift.", ">\n\nI’ve long thought that the number of scandals was part of the problem with the American people realizing how corrupt trump was. No scandal got sufficient coverage because a new one would come up. It’s hard to do the equivalent of Benghazi, Benghazi for years as republicans did when something new comes up nearly every damn day. People didn’t have time to fully understand any of the things he did because he’d do something new. It also didn’t help that the media gave as much attention to an inappropriate tweet as they did to extorting the leader of a foreign nation for political gain. His tweeting was repulsive, but the fact that he picked middle school fights with celebrities hardly compares in significance with obstructing the investigation into the extent of Russia’s involvement in spreading misinformation in the US in order to help trump get elected", ">\n\nThat’s so true. The media is much to blame, but so are Democratic spokespeople, who are so anxious to explain their own “brilliant” unique take on whatever issue is being discussed, they forget that repetition is key to convincing the public. How they were unable to make more hay from the Mueller report is one of the great mysteries of the age. The other is how they failed to capitalize on Biden’s leadership on Ukraine to boost his ratings and their own.", ">\n\nYeah why actually explaining the issues to the American people when empty slogans work better.", ">\n\nPetty little putz, not mention just an asshole.", ">\n\nIf anyone dug into it, I’d wager he killed his own brother", ">\n\nHis father did a pretty good job of that even without any help from Donald.", ">\n\nHe is a 70 year old toddler in mid sugar meltdown 24/7.", ">\n\n76 year old toddler.", ">\n\nI wonder if Americans truly understand the damage this man did to their international credibility. Just the sheer amount of things he did for nothing more than spite made America look petty af\nIt will be a long time before I ever feel I can trust the country again after Trump had my home country (and long time ally to the USA) Canada labeled an official threat to US National security, all so that he could push thru his tariffs against my country without Congress approval. \nCanada is now officially on the records sitting next to the Taliban, Iran nuclear ambitions and Al Quaeda, threats to the United States existence; that's where Trump officially placed us. \nThen he attempts a violent insurrection which he still has yet to see any repurcussions for.... But yet Canada's still on that list", ">\n\nSome of us do. This particular petty thing he did to Canada is bad enough, but when he withdrew from the Paris climate accords and the Iran nuclear deal, he showed the world that the United States couldn’t be trusted to keep its word. If the commitments of the US can’t be trusted to outlast the current administration, why the fuck would any country make any agreements with us? It will take decades of continuous promise keeping to restore the international confidence in our word that Trump causally threw in trash. The maga-morons think trump restored international respect for us. I’m not sure that the damage trump did to this country both internally and internationally can ever be repaired", ">\n\nYou put it far more succinctly than I ever could. I forgot about the Paris agreement, but his backing out of the Iran deal really confused me. If you think they might make nuclear weapons, why destroy the entire agreement that safeguarded against that, essentially letting Iran now do whatever they wanted", ">\n\nBecause Obama negotiated it. Trump tried to undo everything Obama accomplished from shear spite. We elected a temper tantrum throwing toddler as president. There’s no more point in trying to see logic in anything trump did than there is in reasoning with a 2 year old. I have argued and still believe that you could pick any random adult off any street in any town or city in the country and there would be a 90% chance that whoever you got would be a better president than trump. Believe me, some of us realize how much damage he did. But the fact that anyone would vote to re-elect this man, let alone the numbers who did, is a stinging indictment of the intelligence of the American people. At the time, I thought it would be impossible for anyone to be a worst president than Bush, jr., but compared to trump, W was fantastic, and I’d never have believed I’d ever say this if you had told me in 2007 that I would someday say this", ">\n\nHe was still fired and I doubt Melania gave 2 Fs whether the dude got fired 3 weeks to go or three days to go. That whole family AND Stephanie “multiple DUIs” Grisham are scum", ">\n\nFuck trump", ">\n\nHow dare that guy do the job he is paid to do.....", ">\n\nOf all the crap I believe about this man, this one rings total and truthful. Zero doubt in my mind.", ">\n\nNothing is too petty for Trump.", ">\n\nSuch a petty piece of shit.", ">\n\nThe pettiness is just mind-boggling. No respect for anyone", ">\n\nLeave Usher alone!", ">\n\nSuch a crass tacky uncouth person. Ugh", ">\n\nThis is full-on temper tantrum.", ">\n\nTrump is a fucking asshole.", ">\n\nI’m not even gonna read the article. I’ll just assume it was grammy winner artist Usher.", ">\n\nUshaaaa, Ushaaaa", ">\n\nI wouldn’t put it past this man to leave a steaming pile of Trump in the toilet before leaving the grounds.", ">\n\nThe most petty, infantile, pathetic POTUS we ever had, by far.", ">\n\nI wager he left him an unflushed toilet, too.\nIt’s the kind of petty shit he lives for.", ">\n\nI’m just a humble Redditor. I want someone with more mojo to create a thread somewhere on r/fednews or the like to tell disloyal Secret Service people how angry I am at them. \nI have no problem with whatever honest money we spend to protect Trump and his family, if that’s really what we need to spend. But the trade-off is that the Secret Service should be as loyal to presidents they dislike as I am to security spending for the Trumps.", ">\n\nTo which he replied, \"how the hell am I supposed to leave?\"", ">\n\nTalk about “small dick energy”…sheesh", ">\n\nUsher is so 90's/2000 he should be canceled at this point.", ">\n\nYeah!", ">\n\nUSHER WORKED FOR HIM??? /s", ">\n\nNever knew Usher worked there…", ">\n\nWonder when we will see confessions from Trump. Maybe in two parts." ]

[ "That he wanted the dude fired isn't really newsworthy, but how he learned about the usher meeting with Biden is. The Secret Service told him. That means at least one of the Secret Service agents assigned to protect Biden at that time was sharing information he learned while on the job with Trump's people. No wonder there have been reports of Biden being careful of what he says around the Secret Service.", ">\n\nI still don’t understand how Biden hasn’t cleared out the SS.", ">\n\nIt’s a group of very specially skilled, highly trained people. They can’t easily replace the entire detail and even if he did with agents from other areas, there’s no telling that would be any better.\nHis only other good option may be a military detail and that comes with its own host of issues.", ">\n\nHaving a group of specially skilled, highly trained people betraying your interests to work against you sounds like it would be worse than having a less skilled less trained force that is actually loyal.", ">\n\nThat's just choosing between the devil you know and the devil you don't.\nYou can't know what level of exposure you will get with a green member of staff. An experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.", ">\n\n\nAn experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.\n\nAre you seriously suggesting that literal traitors would be better bodyguards for the president than noobs (only relatively speaking, since there are plenty of non-career-USSS folks who have done personal protection duty before) would, because traitors know how to cover their tracks? Or am I radically misunderstanding you? Because if I understood you correctly then that sounds like insanity.\nWe might as well resurrect John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald and have them guard our president. They really knew what they were doing.", ">\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk and not a physical threat to any government worker.\nAny of the agents will also not have the history of a Confederate or a USSR defector respectively.\nThey would need some proof of a threat that they pose, or at least some indication that they are disregarding their duties before replacing them with someone less effective.\nThey are managing a rumor mill.", ">\n\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk\n\nIf it were only infosec that had ever been in question, I might ageee with you. But trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\nAnd also, there’s not really such a thing as only an infosec risk when it comes to presidential security. Intentionally giving information about Biden’s activities to parties you know have hostile intentions toward him obviously poses a physical security risk.\nEdited to remove autocorrect of “infosec” to “informed.”", ">\n\n\nBut trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\n\nIf the agents that made those decisions are still employed that's interesting. If they can't figure out exactly who was progressing the plot that really sucks.\nI don't think they can afford to clean house if this is the case.", ">\n\nTrump never grasped how transition works even though multiple people explained it to him. \nBasically, if Trump really doesn't like something, he's going to refuse to listen or try to understand.\n\nUltimately, Harleth was fired on Inauguration Day even before the Bidens officially moved into the White House\nSince there was no hired usher at the time of their arrival, the Bidens were greeted with a set of closed doors on the North Portico. Typically, the doors would have been held open for the first family.\n\nI'm sure Donald Trump got some smug satisfaction out of that. \nAs I understood it, the crew was still deep-cleaning the place as per Biden's request. Donald probably tried to stop them from doing their jobs as well.", ">\n\nI’d forgotten about that. A book containing a one sentence description of every horrible/embarrassing/stupid thing trump and his family did in those four years would be too heavy to lift.", ">\n\nI’ve long thought that the number of scandals was part of the problem with the American people realizing how corrupt trump was. No scandal got sufficient coverage because a new one would come up. It’s hard to do the equivalent of Benghazi, Benghazi for years as republicans did when something new comes up nearly every damn day. People didn’t have time to fully understand any of the things he did because he’d do something new. It also didn’t help that the media gave as much attention to an inappropriate tweet as they did to extorting the leader of a foreign nation for political gain. His tweeting was repulsive, but the fact that he picked middle school fights with celebrities hardly compares in significance with obstructing the investigation into the extent of Russia’s involvement in spreading misinformation in the US in order to help trump get elected", ">\n\nThat’s so true. The media is much to blame, but so are Democratic spokespeople, who are so anxious to explain their own “brilliant” unique take on whatever issue is being discussed, they forget that repetition is key to convincing the public. How they were unable to make more hay from the Mueller report is one of the great mysteries of the age. The other is how they failed to capitalize on Biden’s leadership on Ukraine to boost his ratings and their own.", ">\n\nYeah why actually explaining the issues to the American people when empty slogans work better.", ">\n\nPetty little putz, not mention just an asshole.", ">\n\nIf anyone dug into it, I’d wager he killed his own brother", ">\n\nHis father did a pretty good job of that even without any help from Donald.", ">\n\nHe is a 70 year old toddler in mid sugar meltdown 24/7.", ">\n\n76 year old toddler.", ">\n\nI wonder if Americans truly understand the damage this man did to their international credibility. Just the sheer amount of things he did for nothing more than spite made America look petty af\nIt will be a long time before I ever feel I can trust the country again after Trump had my home country (and long time ally to the USA) Canada labeled an official threat to US National security, all so that he could push thru his tariffs against my country without Congress approval. \nCanada is now officially on the records sitting next to the Taliban, Iran nuclear ambitions and Al Quaeda, threats to the United States existence; that's where Trump officially placed us. \nThen he attempts a violent insurrection which he still has yet to see any repurcussions for.... But yet Canada's still on that list", ">\n\nSome of us do. This particular petty thing he did to Canada is bad enough, but when he withdrew from the Paris climate accords and the Iran nuclear deal, he showed the world that the United States couldn’t be trusted to keep its word. If the commitments of the US can’t be trusted to outlast the current administration, why the fuck would any country make any agreements with us? It will take decades of continuous promise keeping to restore the international confidence in our word that Trump causally threw in trash. The maga-morons think trump restored international respect for us. I’m not sure that the damage trump did to this country both internally and internationally can ever be repaired", ">\n\nYou put it far more succinctly than I ever could. I forgot about the Paris agreement, but his backing out of the Iran deal really confused me. If you think they might make nuclear weapons, why destroy the entire agreement that safeguarded against that, essentially letting Iran now do whatever they wanted", ">\n\nBecause Obama negotiated it. Trump tried to undo everything Obama accomplished from shear spite. We elected a temper tantrum throwing toddler as president. There’s no more point in trying to see logic in anything trump did than there is in reasoning with a 2 year old. I have argued and still believe that you could pick any random adult off any street in any town or city in the country and there would be a 90% chance that whoever you got would be a better president than trump. Believe me, some of us realize how much damage he did. But the fact that anyone would vote to re-elect this man, let alone the numbers who did, is a stinging indictment of the intelligence of the American people. At the time, I thought it would be impossible for anyone to be a worst president than Bush, jr., but compared to trump, W was fantastic, and I’d never have believed I’d ever say this if you had told me in 2007 that I would someday say this", ">\n\nHe was still fired and I doubt Melania gave 2 Fs whether the dude got fired 3 weeks to go or three days to go. That whole family AND Stephanie “multiple DUIs” Grisham are scum", ">\n\nFuck trump", ">\n\nHow dare that guy do the job he is paid to do.....", ">\n\nOf all the crap I believe about this man, this one rings total and truthful. Zero doubt in my mind.", ">\n\nNothing is too petty for Trump.", ">\n\nSuch a petty piece of shit.", ">\n\nThe pettiness is just mind-boggling. No respect for anyone", ">\n\nLeave Usher alone!", ">\n\nSuch a crass tacky uncouth person. Ugh", ">\n\nThis is full-on temper tantrum.", ">\n\nTrump is a fucking asshole.", ">\n\nI’m not even gonna read the article. I’ll just assume it was grammy winner artist Usher.", ">\n\nUshaaaa, Ushaaaa", ">\n\nI wouldn’t put it past this man to leave a steaming pile of Trump in the toilet before leaving the grounds.", ">\n\nThe most petty, infantile, pathetic POTUS we ever had, by far.", ">\n\nI wager he left him an unflushed toilet, too.\nIt’s the kind of petty shit he lives for.", ">\n\nI’m just a humble Redditor. I want someone with more mojo to create a thread somewhere on r/fednews or the like to tell disloyal Secret Service people how angry I am at them. \nI have no problem with whatever honest money we spend to protect Trump and his family, if that’s really what we need to spend. But the trade-off is that the Secret Service should be as loyal to presidents they dislike as I am to security spending for the Trumps.", ">\n\nTo which he replied, \"how the hell am I supposed to leave?\"", ">\n\nTalk about “small dick energy”…sheesh", ">\n\nUsher is so 90's/2000 he should be canceled at this point.", ">\n\nYeah!", ">\n\nUSHER WORKED FOR HIM??? /s", ">\n\nNever knew Usher worked there…", ">\n\nWonder when we will see confessions from Trump. Maybe in two parts.", ">\n\nThe will be sold in a series of NFTs made with badly photoshopped images that were stolen." ]

[ "That he wanted the dude fired isn't really newsworthy, but how he learned about the usher meeting with Biden is. The Secret Service told him. That means at least one of the Secret Service agents assigned to protect Biden at that time was sharing information he learned while on the job with Trump's people. No wonder there have been reports of Biden being careful of what he says around the Secret Service.", ">\n\nI still don’t understand how Biden hasn’t cleared out the SS.", ">\n\nIt’s a group of very specially skilled, highly trained people. They can’t easily replace the entire detail and even if he did with agents from other areas, there’s no telling that would be any better.\nHis only other good option may be a military detail and that comes with its own host of issues.", ">\n\nHaving a group of specially skilled, highly trained people betraying your interests to work against you sounds like it would be worse than having a less skilled less trained force that is actually loyal.", ">\n\nThat's just choosing between the devil you know and the devil you don't.\nYou can't know what level of exposure you will get with a green member of staff. An experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.", ">\n\n\nAn experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.\n\nAre you seriously suggesting that literal traitors would be better bodyguards for the president than noobs (only relatively speaking, since there are plenty of non-career-USSS folks who have done personal protection duty before) would, because traitors know how to cover their tracks? Or am I radically misunderstanding you? Because if I understood you correctly then that sounds like insanity.\nWe might as well resurrect John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald and have them guard our president. They really knew what they were doing.", ">\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk and not a physical threat to any government worker.\nAny of the agents will also not have the history of a Confederate or a USSR defector respectively.\nThey would need some proof of a threat that they pose, or at least some indication that they are disregarding their duties before replacing them with someone less effective.\nThey are managing a rumor mill.", ">\n\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk\n\nIf it were only infosec that had ever been in question, I might ageee with you. But trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\nAnd also, there’s not really such a thing as only an infosec risk when it comes to presidential security. Intentionally giving information about Biden’s activities to parties you know have hostile intentions toward him obviously poses a physical security risk.\nEdited to remove autocorrect of “infosec” to “informed.”", ">\n\n\nBut trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\n\nIf the agents that made those decisions are still employed that's interesting. If they can't figure out exactly who was progressing the plot that really sucks.\nI don't think they can afford to clean house if this is the case.", ">\n\nTrump never grasped how transition works even though multiple people explained it to him. \nBasically, if Trump really doesn't like something, he's going to refuse to listen or try to understand.\n\nUltimately, Harleth was fired on Inauguration Day even before the Bidens officially moved into the White House\nSince there was no hired usher at the time of their arrival, the Bidens were greeted with a set of closed doors on the North Portico. Typically, the doors would have been held open for the first family.\n\nI'm sure Donald Trump got some smug satisfaction out of that. \nAs I understood it, the crew was still deep-cleaning the place as per Biden's request. Donald probably tried to stop them from doing their jobs as well.", ">\n\nI’d forgotten about that. A book containing a one sentence description of every horrible/embarrassing/stupid thing trump and his family did in those four years would be too heavy to lift.", ">\n\nI’ve long thought that the number of scandals was part of the problem with the American people realizing how corrupt trump was. No scandal got sufficient coverage because a new one would come up. It’s hard to do the equivalent of Benghazi, Benghazi for years as republicans did when something new comes up nearly every damn day. People didn’t have time to fully understand any of the things he did because he’d do something new. It also didn’t help that the media gave as much attention to an inappropriate tweet as they did to extorting the leader of a foreign nation for political gain. His tweeting was repulsive, but the fact that he picked middle school fights with celebrities hardly compares in significance with obstructing the investigation into the extent of Russia’s involvement in spreading misinformation in the US in order to help trump get elected", ">\n\nThat’s so true. The media is much to blame, but so are Democratic spokespeople, who are so anxious to explain their own “brilliant” unique take on whatever issue is being discussed, they forget that repetition is key to convincing the public. How they were unable to make more hay from the Mueller report is one of the great mysteries of the age. The other is how they failed to capitalize on Biden’s leadership on Ukraine to boost his ratings and their own.", ">\n\nYeah why actually explaining the issues to the American people when empty slogans work better.", ">\n\nPetty little putz, not mention just an asshole.", ">\n\nIf anyone dug into it, I’d wager he killed his own brother", ">\n\nHis father did a pretty good job of that even without any help from Donald.", ">\n\nHe is a 70 year old toddler in mid sugar meltdown 24/7.", ">\n\n76 year old toddler.", ">\n\nI wonder if Americans truly understand the damage this man did to their international credibility. Just the sheer amount of things he did for nothing more than spite made America look petty af\nIt will be a long time before I ever feel I can trust the country again after Trump had my home country (and long time ally to the USA) Canada labeled an official threat to US National security, all so that he could push thru his tariffs against my country without Congress approval. \nCanada is now officially on the records sitting next to the Taliban, Iran nuclear ambitions and Al Quaeda, threats to the United States existence; that's where Trump officially placed us. \nThen he attempts a violent insurrection which he still has yet to see any repurcussions for.... But yet Canada's still on that list", ">\n\nSome of us do. This particular petty thing he did to Canada is bad enough, but when he withdrew from the Paris climate accords and the Iran nuclear deal, he showed the world that the United States couldn’t be trusted to keep its word. If the commitments of the US can’t be trusted to outlast the current administration, why the fuck would any country make any agreements with us? It will take decades of continuous promise keeping to restore the international confidence in our word that Trump causally threw in trash. The maga-morons think trump restored international respect for us. I’m not sure that the damage trump did to this country both internally and internationally can ever be repaired", ">\n\nYou put it far more succinctly than I ever could. I forgot about the Paris agreement, but his backing out of the Iran deal really confused me. If you think they might make nuclear weapons, why destroy the entire agreement that safeguarded against that, essentially letting Iran now do whatever they wanted", ">\n\nBecause Obama negotiated it. Trump tried to undo everything Obama accomplished from shear spite. We elected a temper tantrum throwing toddler as president. There’s no more point in trying to see logic in anything trump did than there is in reasoning with a 2 year old. I have argued and still believe that you could pick any random adult off any street in any town or city in the country and there would be a 90% chance that whoever you got would be a better president than trump. Believe me, some of us realize how much damage he did. But the fact that anyone would vote to re-elect this man, let alone the numbers who did, is a stinging indictment of the intelligence of the American people. At the time, I thought it would be impossible for anyone to be a worst president than Bush, jr., but compared to trump, W was fantastic, and I’d never have believed I’d ever say this if you had told me in 2007 that I would someday say this", ">\n\nHe was still fired and I doubt Melania gave 2 Fs whether the dude got fired 3 weeks to go or three days to go. That whole family AND Stephanie “multiple DUIs” Grisham are scum", ">\n\nFuck trump", ">\n\nHow dare that guy do the job he is paid to do.....", ">\n\nOf all the crap I believe about this man, this one rings total and truthful. Zero doubt in my mind.", ">\n\nNothing is too petty for Trump.", ">\n\nSuch a petty piece of shit.", ">\n\nThe pettiness is just mind-boggling. No respect for anyone", ">\n\nLeave Usher alone!", ">\n\nSuch a crass tacky uncouth person. Ugh", ">\n\nThis is full-on temper tantrum.", ">\n\nTrump is a fucking asshole.", ">\n\nI’m not even gonna read the article. I’ll just assume it was grammy winner artist Usher.", ">\n\nUshaaaa, Ushaaaa", ">\n\nI wouldn’t put it past this man to leave a steaming pile of Trump in the toilet before leaving the grounds.", ">\n\nThe most petty, infantile, pathetic POTUS we ever had, by far.", ">\n\nI wager he left him an unflushed toilet, too.\nIt’s the kind of petty shit he lives for.", ">\n\nI’m just a humble Redditor. I want someone with more mojo to create a thread somewhere on r/fednews or the like to tell disloyal Secret Service people how angry I am at them. \nI have no problem with whatever honest money we spend to protect Trump and his family, if that’s really what we need to spend. But the trade-off is that the Secret Service should be as loyal to presidents they dislike as I am to security spending for the Trumps.", ">\n\nTo which he replied, \"how the hell am I supposed to leave?\"", ">\n\nTalk about “small dick energy”…sheesh", ">\n\nUsher is so 90's/2000 he should be canceled at this point.", ">\n\nYeah!", ">\n\nUSHER WORKED FOR HIM??? /s", ">\n\nNever knew Usher worked there…", ">\n\nWonder when we will see confessions from Trump. Maybe in two parts.", ">\n\nThe will be sold in a series of NFTs made with badly photoshopped images that were stolen.", ">\n\nEx-press secretary expressed secret." ]

[ "That he wanted the dude fired isn't really newsworthy, but how he learned about the usher meeting with Biden is. The Secret Service told him. That means at least one of the Secret Service agents assigned to protect Biden at that time was sharing information he learned while on the job with Trump's people. No wonder there have been reports of Biden being careful of what he says around the Secret Service.", ">\n\nI still don’t understand how Biden hasn’t cleared out the SS.", ">\n\nIt’s a group of very specially skilled, highly trained people. They can’t easily replace the entire detail and even if he did with agents from other areas, there’s no telling that would be any better.\nHis only other good option may be a military detail and that comes with its own host of issues.", ">\n\nHaving a group of specially skilled, highly trained people betraying your interests to work against you sounds like it would be worse than having a less skilled less trained force that is actually loyal.", ">\n\nThat's just choosing between the devil you know and the devil you don't.\nYou can't know what level of exposure you will get with a green member of staff. An experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.", ">\n\n\nAn experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.\n\nAre you seriously suggesting that literal traitors would be better bodyguards for the president than noobs (only relatively speaking, since there are plenty of non-career-USSS folks who have done personal protection duty before) would, because traitors know how to cover their tracks? Or am I radically misunderstanding you? Because if I understood you correctly then that sounds like insanity.\nWe might as well resurrect John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald and have them guard our president. They really knew what they were doing.", ">\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk and not a physical threat to any government worker.\nAny of the agents will also not have the history of a Confederate or a USSR defector respectively.\nThey would need some proof of a threat that they pose, or at least some indication that they are disregarding their duties before replacing them with someone less effective.\nThey are managing a rumor mill.", ">\n\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk\n\nIf it were only infosec that had ever been in question, I might ageee with you. But trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\nAnd also, there’s not really such a thing as only an infosec risk when it comes to presidential security. Intentionally giving information about Biden’s activities to parties you know have hostile intentions toward him obviously poses a physical security risk.\nEdited to remove autocorrect of “infosec” to “informed.”", ">\n\n\nBut trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\n\nIf the agents that made those decisions are still employed that's interesting. If they can't figure out exactly who was progressing the plot that really sucks.\nI don't think they can afford to clean house if this is the case.", ">\n\nTrump never grasped how transition works even though multiple people explained it to him. \nBasically, if Trump really doesn't like something, he's going to refuse to listen or try to understand.\n\nUltimately, Harleth was fired on Inauguration Day even before the Bidens officially moved into the White House\nSince there was no hired usher at the time of their arrival, the Bidens were greeted with a set of closed doors on the North Portico. Typically, the doors would have been held open for the first family.\n\nI'm sure Donald Trump got some smug satisfaction out of that. \nAs I understood it, the crew was still deep-cleaning the place as per Biden's request. Donald probably tried to stop them from doing their jobs as well.", ">\n\nI’d forgotten about that. A book containing a one sentence description of every horrible/embarrassing/stupid thing trump and his family did in those four years would be too heavy to lift.", ">\n\nI’ve long thought that the number of scandals was part of the problem with the American people realizing how corrupt trump was. No scandal got sufficient coverage because a new one would come up. It’s hard to do the equivalent of Benghazi, Benghazi for years as republicans did when something new comes up nearly every damn day. People didn’t have time to fully understand any of the things he did because he’d do something new. It also didn’t help that the media gave as much attention to an inappropriate tweet as they did to extorting the leader of a foreign nation for political gain. His tweeting was repulsive, but the fact that he picked middle school fights with celebrities hardly compares in significance with obstructing the investigation into the extent of Russia’s involvement in spreading misinformation in the US in order to help trump get elected", ">\n\nThat’s so true. The media is much to blame, but so are Democratic spokespeople, who are so anxious to explain their own “brilliant” unique take on whatever issue is being discussed, they forget that repetition is key to convincing the public. How they were unable to make more hay from the Mueller report is one of the great mysteries of the age. The other is how they failed to capitalize on Biden’s leadership on Ukraine to boost his ratings and their own.", ">\n\nYeah why actually explaining the issues to the American people when empty slogans work better.", ">\n\nPetty little putz, not mention just an asshole.", ">\n\nIf anyone dug into it, I’d wager he killed his own brother", ">\n\nHis father did a pretty good job of that even without any help from Donald.", ">\n\nHe is a 70 year old toddler in mid sugar meltdown 24/7.", ">\n\n76 year old toddler.", ">\n\nI wonder if Americans truly understand the damage this man did to their international credibility. Just the sheer amount of things he did for nothing more than spite made America look petty af\nIt will be a long time before I ever feel I can trust the country again after Trump had my home country (and long time ally to the USA) Canada labeled an official threat to US National security, all so that he could push thru his tariffs against my country without Congress approval. \nCanada is now officially on the records sitting next to the Taliban, Iran nuclear ambitions and Al Quaeda, threats to the United States existence; that's where Trump officially placed us. \nThen he attempts a violent insurrection which he still has yet to see any repurcussions for.... But yet Canada's still on that list", ">\n\nSome of us do. This particular petty thing he did to Canada is bad enough, but when he withdrew from the Paris climate accords and the Iran nuclear deal, he showed the world that the United States couldn’t be trusted to keep its word. If the commitments of the US can’t be trusted to outlast the current administration, why the fuck would any country make any agreements with us? It will take decades of continuous promise keeping to restore the international confidence in our word that Trump causally threw in trash. The maga-morons think trump restored international respect for us. I’m not sure that the damage trump did to this country both internally and internationally can ever be repaired", ">\n\nYou put it far more succinctly than I ever could. I forgot about the Paris agreement, but his backing out of the Iran deal really confused me. If you think they might make nuclear weapons, why destroy the entire agreement that safeguarded against that, essentially letting Iran now do whatever they wanted", ">\n\nBecause Obama negotiated it. Trump tried to undo everything Obama accomplished from shear spite. We elected a temper tantrum throwing toddler as president. There’s no more point in trying to see logic in anything trump did than there is in reasoning with a 2 year old. I have argued and still believe that you could pick any random adult off any street in any town or city in the country and there would be a 90% chance that whoever you got would be a better president than trump. Believe me, some of us realize how much damage he did. But the fact that anyone would vote to re-elect this man, let alone the numbers who did, is a stinging indictment of the intelligence of the American people. At the time, I thought it would be impossible for anyone to be a worst president than Bush, jr., but compared to trump, W was fantastic, and I’d never have believed I’d ever say this if you had told me in 2007 that I would someday say this", ">\n\nHe was still fired and I doubt Melania gave 2 Fs whether the dude got fired 3 weeks to go or three days to go. That whole family AND Stephanie “multiple DUIs” Grisham are scum", ">\n\nFuck trump", ">\n\nHow dare that guy do the job he is paid to do.....", ">\n\nOf all the crap I believe about this man, this one rings total and truthful. Zero doubt in my mind.", ">\n\nNothing is too petty for Trump.", ">\n\nSuch a petty piece of shit.", ">\n\nThe pettiness is just mind-boggling. No respect for anyone", ">\n\nLeave Usher alone!", ">\n\nSuch a crass tacky uncouth person. Ugh", ">\n\nThis is full-on temper tantrum.", ">\n\nTrump is a fucking asshole.", ">\n\nI’m not even gonna read the article. I’ll just assume it was grammy winner artist Usher.", ">\n\nUshaaaa, Ushaaaa", ">\n\nI wouldn’t put it past this man to leave a steaming pile of Trump in the toilet before leaving the grounds.", ">\n\nThe most petty, infantile, pathetic POTUS we ever had, by far.", ">\n\nI wager he left him an unflushed toilet, too.\nIt’s the kind of petty shit he lives for.", ">\n\nI’m just a humble Redditor. I want someone with more mojo to create a thread somewhere on r/fednews or the like to tell disloyal Secret Service people how angry I am at them. \nI have no problem with whatever honest money we spend to protect Trump and his family, if that’s really what we need to spend. But the trade-off is that the Secret Service should be as loyal to presidents they dislike as I am to security spending for the Trumps.", ">\n\nTo which he replied, \"how the hell am I supposed to leave?\"", ">\n\nTalk about “small dick energy”…sheesh", ">\n\nUsher is so 90's/2000 he should be canceled at this point.", ">\n\nYeah!", ">\n\nUSHER WORKED FOR HIM??? /s", ">\n\nNever knew Usher worked there…", ">\n\nWonder when we will see confessions from Trump. Maybe in two parts.", ">\n\nThe will be sold in a series of NFTs made with badly photoshopped images that were stolen.", ">\n\nEx-press secretary expressed secret.", ">\n\nMust’ve been short on helping moving out all the boxes of stolen documents." ]

[ "That he wanted the dude fired isn't really newsworthy, but how he learned about the usher meeting with Biden is. The Secret Service told him. That means at least one of the Secret Service agents assigned to protect Biden at that time was sharing information he learned while on the job with Trump's people. No wonder there have been reports of Biden being careful of what he says around the Secret Service.", ">\n\nI still don’t understand how Biden hasn’t cleared out the SS.", ">\n\nIt’s a group of very specially skilled, highly trained people. They can’t easily replace the entire detail and even if he did with agents from other areas, there’s no telling that would be any better.\nHis only other good option may be a military detail and that comes with its own host of issues.", ">\n\nHaving a group of specially skilled, highly trained people betraying your interests to work against you sounds like it would be worse than having a less skilled less trained force that is actually loyal.", ">\n\nThat's just choosing between the devil you know and the devil you don't.\nYou can't know what level of exposure you will get with a green member of staff. An experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.", ">\n\n\nAn experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.\n\nAre you seriously suggesting that literal traitors would be better bodyguards for the president than noobs (only relatively speaking, since there are plenty of non-career-USSS folks who have done personal protection duty before) would, because traitors know how to cover their tracks? Or am I radically misunderstanding you? Because if I understood you correctly then that sounds like insanity.\nWe might as well resurrect John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald and have them guard our president. They really knew what they were doing.", ">\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk and not a physical threat to any government worker.\nAny of the agents will also not have the history of a Confederate or a USSR defector respectively.\nThey would need some proof of a threat that they pose, or at least some indication that they are disregarding their duties before replacing them with someone less effective.\nThey are managing a rumor mill.", ">\n\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk\n\nIf it were only infosec that had ever been in question, I might ageee with you. But trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\nAnd also, there’s not really such a thing as only an infosec risk when it comes to presidential security. Intentionally giving information about Biden’s activities to parties you know have hostile intentions toward him obviously poses a physical security risk.\nEdited to remove autocorrect of “infosec” to “informed.”", ">\n\n\nBut trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\n\nIf the agents that made those decisions are still employed that's interesting. If they can't figure out exactly who was progressing the plot that really sucks.\nI don't think they can afford to clean house if this is the case.", ">\n\nTrump never grasped how transition works even though multiple people explained it to him. \nBasically, if Trump really doesn't like something, he's going to refuse to listen or try to understand.\n\nUltimately, Harleth was fired on Inauguration Day even before the Bidens officially moved into the White House\nSince there was no hired usher at the time of their arrival, the Bidens were greeted with a set of closed doors on the North Portico. Typically, the doors would have been held open for the first family.\n\nI'm sure Donald Trump got some smug satisfaction out of that. \nAs I understood it, the crew was still deep-cleaning the place as per Biden's request. Donald probably tried to stop them from doing their jobs as well.", ">\n\nI’d forgotten about that. A book containing a one sentence description of every horrible/embarrassing/stupid thing trump and his family did in those four years would be too heavy to lift.", ">\n\nI’ve long thought that the number of scandals was part of the problem with the American people realizing how corrupt trump was. No scandal got sufficient coverage because a new one would come up. It’s hard to do the equivalent of Benghazi, Benghazi for years as republicans did when something new comes up nearly every damn day. People didn’t have time to fully understand any of the things he did because he’d do something new. It also didn’t help that the media gave as much attention to an inappropriate tweet as they did to extorting the leader of a foreign nation for political gain. His tweeting was repulsive, but the fact that he picked middle school fights with celebrities hardly compares in significance with obstructing the investigation into the extent of Russia’s involvement in spreading misinformation in the US in order to help trump get elected", ">\n\nThat’s so true. The media is much to blame, but so are Democratic spokespeople, who are so anxious to explain their own “brilliant” unique take on whatever issue is being discussed, they forget that repetition is key to convincing the public. How they were unable to make more hay from the Mueller report is one of the great mysteries of the age. The other is how they failed to capitalize on Biden’s leadership on Ukraine to boost his ratings and their own.", ">\n\nYeah why actually explaining the issues to the American people when empty slogans work better.", ">\n\nPetty little putz, not mention just an asshole.", ">\n\nIf anyone dug into it, I’d wager he killed his own brother", ">\n\nHis father did a pretty good job of that even without any help from Donald.", ">\n\nHe is a 70 year old toddler in mid sugar meltdown 24/7.", ">\n\n76 year old toddler.", ">\n\nI wonder if Americans truly understand the damage this man did to their international credibility. Just the sheer amount of things he did for nothing more than spite made America look petty af\nIt will be a long time before I ever feel I can trust the country again after Trump had my home country (and long time ally to the USA) Canada labeled an official threat to US National security, all so that he could push thru his tariffs against my country without Congress approval. \nCanada is now officially on the records sitting next to the Taliban, Iran nuclear ambitions and Al Quaeda, threats to the United States existence; that's where Trump officially placed us. \nThen he attempts a violent insurrection which he still has yet to see any repurcussions for.... But yet Canada's still on that list", ">\n\nSome of us do. This particular petty thing he did to Canada is bad enough, but when he withdrew from the Paris climate accords and the Iran nuclear deal, he showed the world that the United States couldn’t be trusted to keep its word. If the commitments of the US can’t be trusted to outlast the current administration, why the fuck would any country make any agreements with us? It will take decades of continuous promise keeping to restore the international confidence in our word that Trump causally threw in trash. The maga-morons think trump restored international respect for us. I’m not sure that the damage trump did to this country both internally and internationally can ever be repaired", ">\n\nYou put it far more succinctly than I ever could. I forgot about the Paris agreement, but his backing out of the Iran deal really confused me. If you think they might make nuclear weapons, why destroy the entire agreement that safeguarded against that, essentially letting Iran now do whatever they wanted", ">\n\nBecause Obama negotiated it. Trump tried to undo everything Obama accomplished from shear spite. We elected a temper tantrum throwing toddler as president. There’s no more point in trying to see logic in anything trump did than there is in reasoning with a 2 year old. I have argued and still believe that you could pick any random adult off any street in any town or city in the country and there would be a 90% chance that whoever you got would be a better president than trump. Believe me, some of us realize how much damage he did. But the fact that anyone would vote to re-elect this man, let alone the numbers who did, is a stinging indictment of the intelligence of the American people. At the time, I thought it would be impossible for anyone to be a worst president than Bush, jr., but compared to trump, W was fantastic, and I’d never have believed I’d ever say this if you had told me in 2007 that I would someday say this", ">\n\nHe was still fired and I doubt Melania gave 2 Fs whether the dude got fired 3 weeks to go or three days to go. That whole family AND Stephanie “multiple DUIs” Grisham are scum", ">\n\nFuck trump", ">\n\nHow dare that guy do the job he is paid to do.....", ">\n\nOf all the crap I believe about this man, this one rings total and truthful. Zero doubt in my mind.", ">\n\nNothing is too petty for Trump.", ">\n\nSuch a petty piece of shit.", ">\n\nThe pettiness is just mind-boggling. No respect for anyone", ">\n\nLeave Usher alone!", ">\n\nSuch a crass tacky uncouth person. Ugh", ">\n\nThis is full-on temper tantrum.", ">\n\nTrump is a fucking asshole.", ">\n\nI’m not even gonna read the article. I’ll just assume it was grammy winner artist Usher.", ">\n\nUshaaaa, Ushaaaa", ">\n\nI wouldn’t put it past this man to leave a steaming pile of Trump in the toilet before leaving the grounds.", ">\n\nThe most petty, infantile, pathetic POTUS we ever had, by far.", ">\n\nI wager he left him an unflushed toilet, too.\nIt’s the kind of petty shit he lives for.", ">\n\nI’m just a humble Redditor. I want someone with more mojo to create a thread somewhere on r/fednews or the like to tell disloyal Secret Service people how angry I am at them. \nI have no problem with whatever honest money we spend to protect Trump and his family, if that’s really what we need to spend. But the trade-off is that the Secret Service should be as loyal to presidents they dislike as I am to security spending for the Trumps.", ">\n\nTo which he replied, \"how the hell am I supposed to leave?\"", ">\n\nTalk about “small dick energy”…sheesh", ">\n\nUsher is so 90's/2000 he should be canceled at this point.", ">\n\nYeah!", ">\n\nUSHER WORKED FOR HIM??? /s", ">\n\nNever knew Usher worked there…", ">\n\nWonder when we will see confessions from Trump. Maybe in two parts.", ">\n\nThe will be sold in a series of NFTs made with badly photoshopped images that were stolen.", ">\n\nEx-press secretary expressed secret.", ">\n\nMust’ve been short on helping moving out all the boxes of stolen documents.", ">\n\nMy god he is petty." ]

[ "That he wanted the dude fired isn't really newsworthy, but how he learned about the usher meeting with Biden is. The Secret Service told him. That means at least one of the Secret Service agents assigned to protect Biden at that time was sharing information he learned while on the job with Trump's people. No wonder there have been reports of Biden being careful of what he says around the Secret Service.", ">\n\nI still don’t understand how Biden hasn’t cleared out the SS.", ">\n\nIt’s a group of very specially skilled, highly trained people. They can’t easily replace the entire detail and even if he did with agents from other areas, there’s no telling that would be any better.\nHis only other good option may be a military detail and that comes with its own host of issues.", ">\n\nHaving a group of specially skilled, highly trained people betraying your interests to work against you sounds like it would be worse than having a less skilled less trained force that is actually loyal.", ">\n\nThat's just choosing between the devil you know and the devil you don't.\nYou can't know what level of exposure you will get with a green member of staff. An experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.", ">\n\n\nAn experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.\n\nAre you seriously suggesting that literal traitors would be better bodyguards for the president than noobs (only relatively speaking, since there are plenty of non-career-USSS folks who have done personal protection duty before) would, because traitors know how to cover their tracks? Or am I radically misunderstanding you? Because if I understood you correctly then that sounds like insanity.\nWe might as well resurrect John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald and have them guard our president. They really knew what they were doing.", ">\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk and not a physical threat to any government worker.\nAny of the agents will also not have the history of a Confederate or a USSR defector respectively.\nThey would need some proof of a threat that they pose, or at least some indication that they are disregarding their duties before replacing them with someone less effective.\nThey are managing a rumor mill.", ">\n\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk\n\nIf it were only infosec that had ever been in question, I might ageee with you. But trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\nAnd also, there’s not really such a thing as only an infosec risk when it comes to presidential security. Intentionally giving information about Biden’s activities to parties you know have hostile intentions toward him obviously poses a physical security risk.\nEdited to remove autocorrect of “infosec” to “informed.”", ">\n\n\nBut trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\n\nIf the agents that made those decisions are still employed that's interesting. If they can't figure out exactly who was progressing the plot that really sucks.\nI don't think they can afford to clean house if this is the case.", ">\n\nTrump never grasped how transition works even though multiple people explained it to him. \nBasically, if Trump really doesn't like something, he's going to refuse to listen or try to understand.\n\nUltimately, Harleth was fired on Inauguration Day even before the Bidens officially moved into the White House\nSince there was no hired usher at the time of their arrival, the Bidens were greeted with a set of closed doors on the North Portico. Typically, the doors would have been held open for the first family.\n\nI'm sure Donald Trump got some smug satisfaction out of that. \nAs I understood it, the crew was still deep-cleaning the place as per Biden's request. Donald probably tried to stop them from doing their jobs as well.", ">\n\nI’d forgotten about that. A book containing a one sentence description of every horrible/embarrassing/stupid thing trump and his family did in those four years would be too heavy to lift.", ">\n\nI’ve long thought that the number of scandals was part of the problem with the American people realizing how corrupt trump was. No scandal got sufficient coverage because a new one would come up. It’s hard to do the equivalent of Benghazi, Benghazi for years as republicans did when something new comes up nearly every damn day. People didn’t have time to fully understand any of the things he did because he’d do something new. It also didn’t help that the media gave as much attention to an inappropriate tweet as they did to extorting the leader of a foreign nation for political gain. His tweeting was repulsive, but the fact that he picked middle school fights with celebrities hardly compares in significance with obstructing the investigation into the extent of Russia’s involvement in spreading misinformation in the US in order to help trump get elected", ">\n\nThat’s so true. The media is much to blame, but so are Democratic spokespeople, who are so anxious to explain their own “brilliant” unique take on whatever issue is being discussed, they forget that repetition is key to convincing the public. How they were unable to make more hay from the Mueller report is one of the great mysteries of the age. The other is how they failed to capitalize on Biden’s leadership on Ukraine to boost his ratings and their own.", ">\n\nYeah why actually explaining the issues to the American people when empty slogans work better.", ">\n\nPetty little putz, not mention just an asshole.", ">\n\nIf anyone dug into it, I’d wager he killed his own brother", ">\n\nHis father did a pretty good job of that even without any help from Donald.", ">\n\nHe is a 70 year old toddler in mid sugar meltdown 24/7.", ">\n\n76 year old toddler.", ">\n\nI wonder if Americans truly understand the damage this man did to their international credibility. Just the sheer amount of things he did for nothing more than spite made America look petty af\nIt will be a long time before I ever feel I can trust the country again after Trump had my home country (and long time ally to the USA) Canada labeled an official threat to US National security, all so that he could push thru his tariffs against my country without Congress approval. \nCanada is now officially on the records sitting next to the Taliban, Iran nuclear ambitions and Al Quaeda, threats to the United States existence; that's where Trump officially placed us. \nThen he attempts a violent insurrection which he still has yet to see any repurcussions for.... But yet Canada's still on that list", ">\n\nSome of us do. This particular petty thing he did to Canada is bad enough, but when he withdrew from the Paris climate accords and the Iran nuclear deal, he showed the world that the United States couldn’t be trusted to keep its word. If the commitments of the US can’t be trusted to outlast the current administration, why the fuck would any country make any agreements with us? It will take decades of continuous promise keeping to restore the international confidence in our word that Trump causally threw in trash. The maga-morons think trump restored international respect for us. I’m not sure that the damage trump did to this country both internally and internationally can ever be repaired", ">\n\nYou put it far more succinctly than I ever could. I forgot about the Paris agreement, but his backing out of the Iran deal really confused me. If you think they might make nuclear weapons, why destroy the entire agreement that safeguarded against that, essentially letting Iran now do whatever they wanted", ">\n\nBecause Obama negotiated it. Trump tried to undo everything Obama accomplished from shear spite. We elected a temper tantrum throwing toddler as president. There’s no more point in trying to see logic in anything trump did than there is in reasoning with a 2 year old. I have argued and still believe that you could pick any random adult off any street in any town or city in the country and there would be a 90% chance that whoever you got would be a better president than trump. Believe me, some of us realize how much damage he did. But the fact that anyone would vote to re-elect this man, let alone the numbers who did, is a stinging indictment of the intelligence of the American people. At the time, I thought it would be impossible for anyone to be a worst president than Bush, jr., but compared to trump, W was fantastic, and I’d never have believed I’d ever say this if you had told me in 2007 that I would someday say this", ">\n\nHe was still fired and I doubt Melania gave 2 Fs whether the dude got fired 3 weeks to go or three days to go. That whole family AND Stephanie “multiple DUIs” Grisham are scum", ">\n\nFuck trump", ">\n\nHow dare that guy do the job he is paid to do.....", ">\n\nOf all the crap I believe about this man, this one rings total and truthful. Zero doubt in my mind.", ">\n\nNothing is too petty for Trump.", ">\n\nSuch a petty piece of shit.", ">\n\nThe pettiness is just mind-boggling. No respect for anyone", ">\n\nLeave Usher alone!", ">\n\nSuch a crass tacky uncouth person. Ugh", ">\n\nThis is full-on temper tantrum.", ">\n\nTrump is a fucking asshole.", ">\n\nI’m not even gonna read the article. I’ll just assume it was grammy winner artist Usher.", ">\n\nUshaaaa, Ushaaaa", ">\n\nI wouldn’t put it past this man to leave a steaming pile of Trump in the toilet before leaving the grounds.", ">\n\nThe most petty, infantile, pathetic POTUS we ever had, by far.", ">\n\nI wager he left him an unflushed toilet, too.\nIt’s the kind of petty shit he lives for.", ">\n\nI’m just a humble Redditor. I want someone with more mojo to create a thread somewhere on r/fednews or the like to tell disloyal Secret Service people how angry I am at them. \nI have no problem with whatever honest money we spend to protect Trump and his family, if that’s really what we need to spend. But the trade-off is that the Secret Service should be as loyal to presidents they dislike as I am to security spending for the Trumps.", ">\n\nTo which he replied, \"how the hell am I supposed to leave?\"", ">\n\nTalk about “small dick energy”…sheesh", ">\n\nUsher is so 90's/2000 he should be canceled at this point.", ">\n\nYeah!", ">\n\nUSHER WORKED FOR HIM??? /s", ">\n\nNever knew Usher worked there…", ">\n\nWonder when we will see confessions from Trump. Maybe in two parts.", ">\n\nThe will be sold in a series of NFTs made with badly photoshopped images that were stolen.", ">\n\nEx-press secretary expressed secret.", ">\n\nMust’ve been short on helping moving out all the boxes of stolen documents.", ">\n\nMy god he is petty.", ">\n\nTrump is so disgusting - unpresidential. Trash." ]

[ "That he wanted the dude fired isn't really newsworthy, but how he learned about the usher meeting with Biden is. The Secret Service told him. That means at least one of the Secret Service agents assigned to protect Biden at that time was sharing information he learned while on the job with Trump's people. No wonder there have been reports of Biden being careful of what he says around the Secret Service.", ">\n\nI still don’t understand how Biden hasn’t cleared out the SS.", ">\n\nIt’s a group of very specially skilled, highly trained people. They can’t easily replace the entire detail and even if he did with agents from other areas, there’s no telling that would be any better.\nHis only other good option may be a military detail and that comes with its own host of issues.", ">\n\nHaving a group of specially skilled, highly trained people betraying your interests to work against you sounds like it would be worse than having a less skilled less trained force that is actually loyal.", ">\n\nThat's just choosing between the devil you know and the devil you don't.\nYou can't know what level of exposure you will get with a green member of staff. An experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.", ">\n\n\nAn experienced staff member will know how to protect themselves which would put a limit on their ability to do damage.\n\nAre you seriously suggesting that literal traitors would be better bodyguards for the president than noobs (only relatively speaking, since there are plenty of non-career-USSS folks who have done personal protection duty before) would, because traitors know how to cover their tracks? Or am I radically misunderstanding you? Because if I understood you correctly then that sounds like insanity.\nWe might as well resurrect John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald and have them guard our president. They really knew what they were doing.", ">\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk and not a physical threat to any government worker.\nAny of the agents will also not have the history of a Confederate or a USSR defector respectively.\nThey would need some proof of a threat that they pose, or at least some indication that they are disregarding their duties before replacing them with someone less effective.\nThey are managing a rumor mill.", ">\n\n\nI think the analysis has been that this is an InfoSec risk\n\nIf it were only infosec that had ever been in question, I might ageee with you. But trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\nAnd also, there’s not really such a thing as only an infosec risk when it comes to presidential security. Intentionally giving information about Biden’s activities to parties you know have hostile intentions toward him obviously poses a physical security risk.\nEdited to remove autocorrect of “infosec” to “informed.”", ">\n\n\nBut trying to cart off the VP to assist a coup is not an “infosec risk”. It’s treason.\n\nIf the agents that made those decisions are still employed that's interesting. If they can't figure out exactly who was progressing the plot that really sucks.\nI don't think they can afford to clean house if this is the case.", ">\n\nTrump never grasped how transition works even though multiple people explained it to him. \nBasically, if Trump really doesn't like something, he's going to refuse to listen or try to understand.\n\nUltimately, Harleth was fired on Inauguration Day even before the Bidens officially moved into the White House\nSince there was no hired usher at the time of their arrival, the Bidens were greeted with a set of closed doors on the North Portico. Typically, the doors would have been held open for the first family.\n\nI'm sure Donald Trump got some smug satisfaction out of that. \nAs I understood it, the crew was still deep-cleaning the place as per Biden's request. Donald probably tried to stop them from doing their jobs as well.", ">\n\nI’d forgotten about that. A book containing a one sentence description of every horrible/embarrassing/stupid thing trump and his family did in those four years would be too heavy to lift.", ">\n\nI’ve long thought that the number of scandals was part of the problem with the American people realizing how corrupt trump was. No scandal got sufficient coverage because a new one would come up. It’s hard to do the equivalent of Benghazi, Benghazi for years as republicans did when something new comes up nearly every damn day. People didn’t have time to fully understand any of the things he did because he’d do something new. It also didn’t help that the media gave as much attention to an inappropriate tweet as they did to extorting the leader of a foreign nation for political gain. His tweeting was repulsive, but the fact that he picked middle school fights with celebrities hardly compares in significance with obstructing the investigation into the extent of Russia’s involvement in spreading misinformation in the US in order to help trump get elected", ">\n\nThat’s so true. The media is much to blame, but so are Democratic spokespeople, who are so anxious to explain their own “brilliant” unique take on whatever issue is being discussed, they forget that repetition is key to convincing the public. How they were unable to make more hay from the Mueller report is one of the great mysteries of the age. The other is how they failed to capitalize on Biden’s leadership on Ukraine to boost his ratings and their own.", ">\n\nYeah why actually explaining the issues to the American people when empty slogans work better.", ">\n\nPetty little putz, not mention just an asshole.", ">\n\nIf anyone dug into it, I’d wager he killed his own brother", ">\n\nHis father did a pretty good job of that even without any help from Donald.", ">\n\nHe is a 70 year old toddler in mid sugar meltdown 24/7.", ">\n\n76 year old toddler.", ">\n\nI wonder if Americans truly understand the damage this man did to their international credibility. Just the sheer amount of things he did for nothing more than spite made America look petty af\nIt will be a long time before I ever feel I can trust the country again after Trump had my home country (and long time ally to the USA) Canada labeled an official threat to US National security, all so that he could push thru his tariffs against my country without Congress approval. \nCanada is now officially on the records sitting next to the Taliban, Iran nuclear ambitions and Al Quaeda, threats to the United States existence; that's where Trump officially placed us. \nThen he attempts a violent insurrection which he still has yet to see any repurcussions for.... But yet Canada's still on that list", ">\n\nSome of us do. This particular petty thing he did to Canada is bad enough, but when he withdrew from the Paris climate accords and the Iran nuclear deal, he showed the world that the United States couldn’t be trusted to keep its word. If the commitments of the US can’t be trusted to outlast the current administration, why the fuck would any country make any agreements with us? It will take decades of continuous promise keeping to restore the international confidence in our word that Trump causally threw in trash. The maga-morons think trump restored international respect for us. I’m not sure that the damage trump did to this country both internally and internationally can ever be repaired", ">\n\nYou put it far more succinctly than I ever could. I forgot about the Paris agreement, but his backing out of the Iran deal really confused me. If you think they might make nuclear weapons, why destroy the entire agreement that safeguarded against that, essentially letting Iran now do whatever they wanted", ">\n\nBecause Obama negotiated it. Trump tried to undo everything Obama accomplished from shear spite. We elected a temper tantrum throwing toddler as president. There’s no more point in trying to see logic in anything trump did than there is in reasoning with a 2 year old. I have argued and still believe that you could pick any random adult off any street in any town or city in the country and there would be a 90% chance that whoever you got would be a better president than trump. Believe me, some of us realize how much damage he did. But the fact that anyone would vote to re-elect this man, let alone the numbers who did, is a stinging indictment of the intelligence of the American people. At the time, I thought it would be impossible for anyone to be a worst president than Bush, jr., but compared to trump, W was fantastic, and I’d never have believed I’d ever say this if you had told me in 2007 that I would someday say this", ">\n\nHe was still fired and I doubt Melania gave 2 Fs whether the dude got fired 3 weeks to go or three days to go. That whole family AND Stephanie “multiple DUIs” Grisham are scum", ">\n\nFuck trump", ">\n\nHow dare that guy do the job he is paid to do.....", ">\n\nOf all the crap I believe about this man, this one rings total and truthful. Zero doubt in my mind.", ">\n\nNothing is too petty for Trump.", ">\n\nSuch a petty piece of shit.", ">\n\nThe pettiness is just mind-boggling. No respect for anyone", ">\n\nLeave Usher alone!", ">\n\nSuch a crass tacky uncouth person. Ugh", ">\n\nThis is full-on temper tantrum.", ">\n\nTrump is a fucking asshole.", ">\n\nI’m not even gonna read the article. I’ll just assume it was grammy winner artist Usher.", ">\n\nUshaaaa, Ushaaaa", ">\n\nI wouldn’t put it past this man to leave a steaming pile of Trump in the toilet before leaving the grounds.", ">\n\nThe most petty, infantile, pathetic POTUS we ever had, by far.", ">\n\nI wager he left him an unflushed toilet, too.\nIt’s the kind of petty shit he lives for.", ">\n\nI’m just a humble Redditor. I want someone with more mojo to create a thread somewhere on r/fednews or the like to tell disloyal Secret Service people how angry I am at them. \nI have no problem with whatever honest money we spend to protect Trump and his family, if that’s really what we need to spend. But the trade-off is that the Secret Service should be as loyal to presidents they dislike as I am to security spending for the Trumps.", ">\n\nTo which he replied, \"how the hell am I supposed to leave?\"", ">\n\nTalk about “small dick energy”…sheesh", ">\n\nUsher is so 90's/2000 he should be canceled at this point.", ">\n\nYeah!", ">\n\nUSHER WORKED FOR HIM??? /s", ">\n\nNever knew Usher worked there…", ">\n\nWonder when we will see confessions from Trump. Maybe in two parts.", ">\n\nThe will be sold in a series of NFTs made with badly photoshopped images that were stolen.", ">\n\nEx-press secretary expressed secret.", ">\n\nMust’ve been short on helping moving out all the boxes of stolen documents.", ">\n\nMy god he is petty.", ">\n\nTrump is so disgusting - unpresidential. Trash.", ">\n\nObsessed much?" ]

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[ "“And yet what has kept Trump afloat for so long, what has helped him evade ruin and prosecution, is perhaps his most salient quality: he is shameless. That is the never-apologize-never-explain core of him. Trump is hardly the first dishonest President, the first incurious President, the first liar. But he is the most shameless. His contrition is impossible to conceive. He is insensible to disgrace.”\nThis is why his cult will never survive. Why I will never trust or like any of them ever again. Damn them all." ]

[ "“And yet what has kept Trump afloat for so long, what has helped him evade ruin and prosecution, is perhaps his most salient quality: he is shameless. That is the never-apologize-never-explain core of him. Trump is hardly the first dishonest President, the first incurious President, the first liar. But he is the most shameless. His contrition is impossible to conceive. He is insensible to disgrace.”\nThis is why his cult will never survive. Why I will never trust or like any of them ever again. Damn them all.", ">\n\nI hate them one and all, damn their eyes" ]

[ "“And yet what has kept Trump afloat for so long, what has helped him evade ruin and prosecution, is perhaps his most salient quality: he is shameless. That is the never-apologize-never-explain core of him. Trump is hardly the first dishonest President, the first incurious President, the first liar. But he is the most shameless. His contrition is impossible to conceive. He is insensible to disgrace.”\nThis is why his cult will never survive. Why I will never trust or like any of them ever again. Damn them all.", ">\n\nI hate them one and all, damn their eyes", ">\n\nAll republicans are worthless to me anymore. Each and every one of them are rude, whiny, engage in toddler-ass name calling, and spend every fuxin minute of every fcxing day bitching about everything." ]

[ "“And yet what has kept Trump afloat for so long, what has helped him evade ruin and prosecution, is perhaps his most salient quality: he is shameless. That is the never-apologize-never-explain core of him. Trump is hardly the first dishonest President, the first incurious President, the first liar. But he is the most shameless. His contrition is impossible to conceive. He is insensible to disgrace.”\nThis is why his cult will never survive. Why I will never trust or like any of them ever again. Damn them all.", ">\n\nI hate them one and all, damn their eyes", ">\n\nAll republicans are worthless to me anymore. Each and every one of them are rude, whiny, engage in toddler-ass name calling, and spend every fuxin minute of every fcxing day bitching about everything.", ">\n\nYep. The entire party is responsible and the orange stain won’t wash off of them for decades." ]

[ "“And yet what has kept Trump afloat for so long, what has helped him evade ruin and prosecution, is perhaps his most salient quality: he is shameless. That is the never-apologize-never-explain core of him. Trump is hardly the first dishonest President, the first incurious President, the first liar. But he is the most shameless. His contrition is impossible to conceive. He is insensible to disgrace.”\nThis is why his cult will never survive. Why I will never trust or like any of them ever again. Damn them all.", ">\n\nI hate them one and all, damn their eyes", ">\n\nAll republicans are worthless to me anymore. Each and every one of them are rude, whiny, engage in toddler-ass name calling, and spend every fuxin minute of every fcxing day bitching about everything.", ">\n\nYep. The entire party is responsible and the orange stain won’t wash off of them for decades.", ">\n\nAfter Nixon’s disgrace everybody thought the republicans were done for decades at least. One election cycle later Reagan was elected in a landslide and a cult was built around him that lasted 36 years until 2016. Unlike Nixon, Reagan’s crimes were celebrated and his lawbreaking minion Oliver North became a hero. \nDon’t underestimate the stupidity of the American people." ]

[ "“And yet what has kept Trump afloat for so long, what has helped him evade ruin and prosecution, is perhaps his most salient quality: he is shameless. That is the never-apologize-never-explain core of him. Trump is hardly the first dishonest President, the first incurious President, the first liar. But he is the most shameless. His contrition is impossible to conceive. He is insensible to disgrace.”\nThis is why his cult will never survive. Why I will never trust or like any of them ever again. Damn them all.", ">\n\nI hate them one and all, damn their eyes", ">\n\nAll republicans are worthless to me anymore. Each and every one of them are rude, whiny, engage in toddler-ass name calling, and spend every fuxin minute of every fcxing day bitching about everything.", ">\n\nYep. The entire party is responsible and the orange stain won’t wash off of them for decades.", ">\n\nAfter Nixon’s disgrace everybody thought the republicans were done for decades at least. One election cycle later Reagan was elected in a landslide and a cult was built around him that lasted 36 years until 2016. Unlike Nixon, Reagan’s crimes were celebrated and his lawbreaking minion Oliver North became a hero. \nDon’t underestimate the stupidity of the American people.", ">\n\nI'd encourage everyone to read the actual report, which you can find as a PDF here.\nYes, it's 845 pages, but at least a third of those pages are endnotes (which mostly just specify which exact interview a quote comes from). The report's text is easily readable. And it's damned important!" ]

[ "“And yet what has kept Trump afloat for so long, what has helped him evade ruin and prosecution, is perhaps his most salient quality: he is shameless. That is the never-apologize-never-explain core of him. Trump is hardly the first dishonest President, the first incurious President, the first liar. But he is the most shameless. His contrition is impossible to conceive. He is insensible to disgrace.”\nThis is why his cult will never survive. Why I will never trust or like any of them ever again. Damn them all.", ">\n\nI hate them one and all, damn their eyes", ">\n\nAll republicans are worthless to me anymore. Each and every one of them are rude, whiny, engage in toddler-ass name calling, and spend every fuxin minute of every fcxing day bitching about everything.", ">\n\nYep. The entire party is responsible and the orange stain won’t wash off of them for decades.", ">\n\nAfter Nixon’s disgrace everybody thought the republicans were done for decades at least. One election cycle later Reagan was elected in a landslide and a cult was built around him that lasted 36 years until 2016. Unlike Nixon, Reagan’s crimes were celebrated and his lawbreaking minion Oliver North became a hero. \nDon’t underestimate the stupidity of the American people.", ">\n\nI'd encourage everyone to read the actual report, which you can find as a PDF here.\nYes, it's 845 pages, but at least a third of those pages are endnotes (which mostly just specify which exact interview a quote comes from). The report's text is easily readable. And it's damned important!", ">\n\nYesss I’m on page like 380 or something- can confirm it’s a FAST read for an 845 page doc lol" ]

[ "“And yet what has kept Trump afloat for so long, what has helped him evade ruin and prosecution, is perhaps his most salient quality: he is shameless. That is the never-apologize-never-explain core of him. Trump is hardly the first dishonest President, the first incurious President, the first liar. But he is the most shameless. His contrition is impossible to conceive. He is insensible to disgrace.”\nThis is why his cult will never survive. Why I will never trust or like any of them ever again. Damn them all.", ">\n\nI hate them one and all, damn their eyes", ">\n\nAll republicans are worthless to me anymore. Each and every one of them are rude, whiny, engage in toddler-ass name calling, and spend every fuxin minute of every fcxing day bitching about everything.", ">\n\nYep. The entire party is responsible and the orange stain won’t wash off of them for decades.", ">\n\nAfter Nixon’s disgrace everybody thought the republicans were done for decades at least. One election cycle later Reagan was elected in a landslide and a cult was built around him that lasted 36 years until 2016. Unlike Nixon, Reagan’s crimes were celebrated and his lawbreaking minion Oliver North became a hero. \nDon’t underestimate the stupidity of the American people.", ">\n\nI'd encourage everyone to read the actual report, which you can find as a PDF here.\nYes, it's 845 pages, but at least a third of those pages are endnotes (which mostly just specify which exact interview a quote comes from). The report's text is easily readable. And it's damned important!", ">\n\nYesss I’m on page like 380 or something- can confirm it’s a FAST read for an 845 page doc lol", ">\n\nMy wife says the DOJ should indict him for something (the most provable charge of any of the possible charges) on January 6 2023. I agree and when DOJ does it promise a Superseding indictment with all charges to come soon." ]

[ "“And yet what has kept Trump afloat for so long, what has helped him evade ruin and prosecution, is perhaps his most salient quality: he is shameless. That is the never-apologize-never-explain core of him. Trump is hardly the first dishonest President, the first incurious President, the first liar. But he is the most shameless. His contrition is impossible to conceive. He is insensible to disgrace.”\nThis is why his cult will never survive. Why I will never trust or like any of them ever again. Damn them all.", ">\n\nI hate them one and all, damn their eyes", ">\n\nAll republicans are worthless to me anymore. Each and every one of them are rude, whiny, engage in toddler-ass name calling, and spend every fuxin minute of every fcxing day bitching about everything.", ">\n\nYep. The entire party is responsible and the orange stain won’t wash off of them for decades.", ">\n\nAfter Nixon’s disgrace everybody thought the republicans were done for decades at least. One election cycle later Reagan was elected in a landslide and a cult was built around him that lasted 36 years until 2016. Unlike Nixon, Reagan’s crimes were celebrated and his lawbreaking minion Oliver North became a hero. \nDon’t underestimate the stupidity of the American people.", ">\n\nI'd encourage everyone to read the actual report, which you can find as a PDF here.\nYes, it's 845 pages, but at least a third of those pages are endnotes (which mostly just specify which exact interview a quote comes from). The report's text is easily readable. And it's damned important!", ">\n\nYesss I’m on page like 380 or something- can confirm it’s a FAST read for an 845 page doc lol", ">\n\nMy wife says the DOJ should indict him for something (the most provable charge of any of the possible charges) on January 6 2023. I agree and when DOJ does it promise a Superseding indictment with all charges to come soon.", ">\n\nPaywall" ]

[ "“And yet what has kept Trump afloat for so long, what has helped him evade ruin and prosecution, is perhaps his most salient quality: he is shameless. That is the never-apologize-never-explain core of him. Trump is hardly the first dishonest President, the first incurious President, the first liar. But he is the most shameless. His contrition is impossible to conceive. He is insensible to disgrace.”\nThis is why his cult will never survive. Why I will never trust or like any of them ever again. Damn them all.", ">\n\nI hate them one and all, damn their eyes", ">\n\nAll republicans are worthless to me anymore. Each and every one of them are rude, whiny, engage in toddler-ass name calling, and spend every fuxin minute of every fcxing day bitching about everything.", ">\n\nYep. The entire party is responsible and the orange stain won’t wash off of them for decades.", ">\n\nAfter Nixon’s disgrace everybody thought the republicans were done for decades at least. One election cycle later Reagan was elected in a landslide and a cult was built around him that lasted 36 years until 2016. Unlike Nixon, Reagan’s crimes were celebrated and his lawbreaking minion Oliver North became a hero. \nDon’t underestimate the stupidity of the American people.", ">\n\nI'd encourage everyone to read the actual report, which you can find as a PDF here.\nYes, it's 845 pages, but at least a third of those pages are endnotes (which mostly just specify which exact interview a quote comes from). The report's text is easily readable. And it's damned important!", ">\n\nYesss I’m on page like 380 or something- can confirm it’s a FAST read for an 845 page doc lol", ">\n\nMy wife says the DOJ should indict him for something (the most provable charge of any of the possible charges) on January 6 2023. I agree and when DOJ does it promise a Superseding indictment with all charges to come soon.", ">\n\nPaywall", ">\n\nOne can criticize law enforcement when they go out of uniform in unmarked vans and grab people up without identifying themselves as police, and also praise the Capitol Police and Secret Service for saving your life, the two are not incompatible views." ]

[ "“And yet what has kept Trump afloat for so long, what has helped him evade ruin and prosecution, is perhaps his most salient quality: he is shameless. That is the never-apologize-never-explain core of him. Trump is hardly the first dishonest President, the first incurious President, the first liar. But he is the most shameless. His contrition is impossible to conceive. He is insensible to disgrace.”\nThis is why his cult will never survive. Why I will never trust or like any of them ever again. Damn them all.", ">\n\nI hate them one and all, damn their eyes", ">\n\nAll republicans are worthless to me anymore. Each and every one of them are rude, whiny, engage in toddler-ass name calling, and spend every fuxin minute of every fcxing day bitching about everything.", ">\n\nYep. The entire party is responsible and the orange stain won’t wash off of them for decades.", ">\n\nAfter Nixon’s disgrace everybody thought the republicans were done for decades at least. One election cycle later Reagan was elected in a landslide and a cult was built around him that lasted 36 years until 2016. Unlike Nixon, Reagan’s crimes were celebrated and his lawbreaking minion Oliver North became a hero. \nDon’t underestimate the stupidity of the American people.", ">\n\nI'd encourage everyone to read the actual report, which you can find as a PDF here.\nYes, it's 845 pages, but at least a third of those pages are endnotes (which mostly just specify which exact interview a quote comes from). The report's text is easily readable. And it's damned important!", ">\n\nYesss I’m on page like 380 or something- can confirm it’s a FAST read for an 845 page doc lol", ">\n\nMy wife says the DOJ should indict him for something (the most provable charge of any of the possible charges) on January 6 2023. I agree and when DOJ does it promise a Superseding indictment with all charges to come soon.", ">\n\nPaywall", ">\n\nOne can criticize law enforcement when they go out of uniform in unmarked vans and grab people up without identifying themselves as police, and also praise the Capitol Police and Secret Service for saving your life, the two are not incompatible views.", ">\n\nYeah is this some sort of gotcha? I don't even understand why they posted it. It has nothing to do with the situation, and is a terrible comparison." ]

[ "“And yet what has kept Trump afloat for so long, what has helped him evade ruin and prosecution, is perhaps his most salient quality: he is shameless. That is the never-apologize-never-explain core of him. Trump is hardly the first dishonest President, the first incurious President, the first liar. But he is the most shameless. His contrition is impossible to conceive. He is insensible to disgrace.”\nThis is why his cult will never survive. Why I will never trust or like any of them ever again. Damn them all.", ">\n\nI hate them one and all, damn their eyes", ">\n\nAll republicans are worthless to me anymore. Each and every one of them are rude, whiny, engage in toddler-ass name calling, and spend every fuxin minute of every fcxing day bitching about everything.", ">\n\nYep. The entire party is responsible and the orange stain won’t wash off of them for decades.", ">\n\nAfter Nixon’s disgrace everybody thought the republicans were done for decades at least. One election cycle later Reagan was elected in a landslide and a cult was built around him that lasted 36 years until 2016. Unlike Nixon, Reagan’s crimes were celebrated and his lawbreaking minion Oliver North became a hero. \nDon’t underestimate the stupidity of the American people.", ">\n\nI'd encourage everyone to read the actual report, which you can find as a PDF here.\nYes, it's 845 pages, but at least a third of those pages are endnotes (which mostly just specify which exact interview a quote comes from). The report's text is easily readable. And it's damned important!", ">\n\nYesss I’m on page like 380 or something- can confirm it’s a FAST read for an 845 page doc lol", ">\n\nMy wife says the DOJ should indict him for something (the most provable charge of any of the possible charges) on January 6 2023. I agree and when DOJ does it promise a Superseding indictment with all charges to come soon.", ">\n\nPaywall", ">\n\nOne can criticize law enforcement when they go out of uniform in unmarked vans and grab people up without identifying themselves as police, and also praise the Capitol Police and Secret Service for saving your life, the two are not incompatible views.", ">\n\nYeah is this some sort of gotcha? I don't even understand why they posted it. It has nothing to do with the situation, and is a terrible comparison.", ">\n\nThis is a nice break from something unrelated that happened once, 2 and a half years ago." ]

[ "“And yet what has kept Trump afloat for so long, what has helped him evade ruin and prosecution, is perhaps his most salient quality: he is shameless. That is the never-apologize-never-explain core of him. Trump is hardly the first dishonest President, the first incurious President, the first liar. But he is the most shameless. His contrition is impossible to conceive. He is insensible to disgrace.”\nThis is why his cult will never survive. Why I will never trust or like any of them ever again. Damn them all.", ">\n\nI hate them one and all, damn their eyes", ">\n\nAll republicans are worthless to me anymore. Each and every one of them are rude, whiny, engage in toddler-ass name calling, and spend every fuxin minute of every fcxing day bitching about everything.", ">\n\nYep. The entire party is responsible and the orange stain won’t wash off of them for decades.", ">\n\nAfter Nixon’s disgrace everybody thought the republicans were done for decades at least. One election cycle later Reagan was elected in a landslide and a cult was built around him that lasted 36 years until 2016. Unlike Nixon, Reagan’s crimes were celebrated and his lawbreaking minion Oliver North became a hero. \nDon’t underestimate the stupidity of the American people.", ">\n\nI'd encourage everyone to read the actual report, which you can find as a PDF here.\nYes, it's 845 pages, but at least a third of those pages are endnotes (which mostly just specify which exact interview a quote comes from). The report's text is easily readable. And it's damned important!", ">\n\nYesss I’m on page like 380 or something- can confirm it’s a FAST read for an 845 page doc lol", ">\n\nMy wife says the DOJ should indict him for something (the most provable charge of any of the possible charges) on January 6 2023. I agree and when DOJ does it promise a Superseding indictment with all charges to come soon.", ">\n\nPaywall", ">\n\nOne can criticize law enforcement when they go out of uniform in unmarked vans and grab people up without identifying themselves as police, and also praise the Capitol Police and Secret Service for saving your life, the two are not incompatible views.", ">\n\nYeah is this some sort of gotcha? I don't even understand why they posted it. It has nothing to do with the situation, and is a terrible comparison.", ">\n\nThis is a nice break from something unrelated that happened once, 2 and a half years ago.", ">\n\nWhen people bring up something completely unrelated like that when January 6th is the issue i just assume they support what happened on January 6th and they just want to derail the discussion about it because the more information people find out about what actually happened the worse it is." ]

[ "“And yet what has kept Trump afloat for so long, what has helped him evade ruin and prosecution, is perhaps his most salient quality: he is shameless. That is the never-apologize-never-explain core of him. Trump is hardly the first dishonest President, the first incurious President, the first liar. But he is the most shameless. His contrition is impossible to conceive. He is insensible to disgrace.”\nThis is why his cult will never survive. Why I will never trust or like any of them ever again. Damn them all.", ">\n\nI hate them one and all, damn their eyes", ">\n\nAll republicans are worthless to me anymore. Each and every one of them are rude, whiny, engage in toddler-ass name calling, and spend every fuxin minute of every fcxing day bitching about everything.", ">\n\nYep. The entire party is responsible and the orange stain won’t wash off of them for decades.", ">\n\nAfter Nixon’s disgrace everybody thought the republicans were done for decades at least. One election cycle later Reagan was elected in a landslide and a cult was built around him that lasted 36 years until 2016. Unlike Nixon, Reagan’s crimes were celebrated and his lawbreaking minion Oliver North became a hero. \nDon’t underestimate the stupidity of the American people.", ">\n\nI'd encourage everyone to read the actual report, which you can find as a PDF here.\nYes, it's 845 pages, but at least a third of those pages are endnotes (which mostly just specify which exact interview a quote comes from). The report's text is easily readable. And it's damned important!", ">\n\nYesss I’m on page like 380 or something- can confirm it’s a FAST read for an 845 page doc lol", ">\n\nMy wife says the DOJ should indict him for something (the most provable charge of any of the possible charges) on January 6 2023. I agree and when DOJ does it promise a Superseding indictment with all charges to come soon.", ">\n\nPaywall", ">\n\nOne can criticize law enforcement when they go out of uniform in unmarked vans and grab people up without identifying themselves as police, and also praise the Capitol Police and Secret Service for saving your life, the two are not incompatible views.", ">\n\nYeah is this some sort of gotcha? I don't even understand why they posted it. It has nothing to do with the situation, and is a terrible comparison.", ">\n\nThis is a nice break from something unrelated that happened once, 2 and a half years ago.", ">\n\nWhen people bring up something completely unrelated like that when January 6th is the issue i just assume they support what happened on January 6th and they just want to derail the discussion about it because the more information people find out about what actually happened the worse it is.", ">\n\n\nDead horse but NYT will beat it for every left wing nutcase.\n\nGood God.... You didn't even get the source right...\nAnd it's literally right in front of you." ]

[ "“And yet what has kept Trump afloat for so long, what has helped him evade ruin and prosecution, is perhaps his most salient quality: he is shameless. That is the never-apologize-never-explain core of him. Trump is hardly the first dishonest President, the first incurious President, the first liar. But he is the most shameless. His contrition is impossible to conceive. He is insensible to disgrace.”\nThis is why his cult will never survive. Why I will never trust or like any of them ever again. Damn them all.", ">\n\nI hate them one and all, damn their eyes", ">\n\nAll republicans are worthless to me anymore. Each and every one of them are rude, whiny, engage in toddler-ass name calling, and spend every fuxin minute of every fcxing day bitching about everything.", ">\n\nYep. The entire party is responsible and the orange stain won’t wash off of them for decades.", ">\n\nAfter Nixon’s disgrace everybody thought the republicans were done for decades at least. One election cycle later Reagan was elected in a landslide and a cult was built around him that lasted 36 years until 2016. Unlike Nixon, Reagan’s crimes were celebrated and his lawbreaking minion Oliver North became a hero. \nDon’t underestimate the stupidity of the American people.", ">\n\nI'd encourage everyone to read the actual report, which you can find as a PDF here.\nYes, it's 845 pages, but at least a third of those pages are endnotes (which mostly just specify which exact interview a quote comes from). The report's text is easily readable. And it's damned important!", ">\n\nYesss I’m on page like 380 or something- can confirm it’s a FAST read for an 845 page doc lol", ">\n\nMy wife says the DOJ should indict him for something (the most provable charge of any of the possible charges) on January 6 2023. I agree and when DOJ does it promise a Superseding indictment with all charges to come soon.", ">\n\nPaywall", ">\n\nOne can criticize law enforcement when they go out of uniform in unmarked vans and grab people up without identifying themselves as police, and also praise the Capitol Police and Secret Service for saving your life, the two are not incompatible views.", ">\n\nYeah is this some sort of gotcha? I don't even understand why they posted it. It has nothing to do with the situation, and is a terrible comparison.", ">\n\nThis is a nice break from something unrelated that happened once, 2 and a half years ago.", ">\n\nWhen people bring up something completely unrelated like that when January 6th is the issue i just assume they support what happened on January 6th and they just want to derail the discussion about it because the more information people find out about what actually happened the worse it is.", ">\n\n\nDead horse but NYT will beat it for every left wing nutcase.\n\nGood God.... You didn't even get the source right...\nAnd it's literally right in front of you.", ">\n\nWhen you’ve never read a real news source they all kind of blend together." ]

[ "“And yet what has kept Trump afloat for so long, what has helped him evade ruin and prosecution, is perhaps his most salient quality: he is shameless. That is the never-apologize-never-explain core of him. Trump is hardly the first dishonest President, the first incurious President, the first liar. But he is the most shameless. His contrition is impossible to conceive. He is insensible to disgrace.”\nThis is why his cult will never survive. Why I will never trust or like any of them ever again. Damn them all.", ">\n\nI hate them one and all, damn their eyes", ">\n\nAll republicans are worthless to me anymore. Each and every one of them are rude, whiny, engage in toddler-ass name calling, and spend every fuxin minute of every fcxing day bitching about everything.", ">\n\nYep. The entire party is responsible and the orange stain won’t wash off of them for decades.", ">\n\nAfter Nixon’s disgrace everybody thought the republicans were done for decades at least. One election cycle later Reagan was elected in a landslide and a cult was built around him that lasted 36 years until 2016. Unlike Nixon, Reagan’s crimes were celebrated and his lawbreaking minion Oliver North became a hero. \nDon’t underestimate the stupidity of the American people.", ">\n\nI'd encourage everyone to read the actual report, which you can find as a PDF here.\nYes, it's 845 pages, but at least a third of those pages are endnotes (which mostly just specify which exact interview a quote comes from). The report's text is easily readable. And it's damned important!", ">\n\nYesss I’m on page like 380 or something- can confirm it’s a FAST read for an 845 page doc lol", ">\n\nMy wife says the DOJ should indict him for something (the most provable charge of any of the possible charges) on January 6 2023. I agree and when DOJ does it promise a Superseding indictment with all charges to come soon.", ">\n\nPaywall", ">\n\nOne can criticize law enforcement when they go out of uniform in unmarked vans and grab people up without identifying themselves as police, and also praise the Capitol Police and Secret Service for saving your life, the two are not incompatible views.", ">\n\nYeah is this some sort of gotcha? I don't even understand why they posted it. It has nothing to do with the situation, and is a terrible comparison.", ">\n\nThis is a nice break from something unrelated that happened once, 2 and a half years ago.", ">\n\nWhen people bring up something completely unrelated like that when January 6th is the issue i just assume they support what happened on January 6th and they just want to derail the discussion about it because the more information people find out about what actually happened the worse it is.", ">\n\n\nDead horse but NYT will beat it for every left wing nutcase.\n\nGood God.... You didn't even get the source right...\nAnd it's literally right in front of you.", ">\n\nWhen you’ve never read a real news source they all kind of blend together.", ">\n\nLet's not. I would rather have someone with the sense and not get themselves into that situation in the first place. She wasn't going to say anything until they forced her to lie to the committee. Not to mention, she's still a Republican." ]

[ "“And yet what has kept Trump afloat for so long, what has helped him evade ruin and prosecution, is perhaps his most salient quality: he is shameless. That is the never-apologize-never-explain core of him. Trump is hardly the first dishonest President, the first incurious President, the first liar. But he is the most shameless. His contrition is impossible to conceive. He is insensible to disgrace.”\nThis is why his cult will never survive. Why I will never trust or like any of them ever again. Damn them all.", ">\n\nI hate them one and all, damn their eyes", ">\n\nAll republicans are worthless to me anymore. Each and every one of them are rude, whiny, engage in toddler-ass name calling, and spend every fuxin minute of every fcxing day bitching about everything.", ">\n\nYep. The entire party is responsible and the orange stain won’t wash off of them for decades.", ">\n\nAfter Nixon’s disgrace everybody thought the republicans were done for decades at least. One election cycle later Reagan was elected in a landslide and a cult was built around him that lasted 36 years until 2016. Unlike Nixon, Reagan’s crimes were celebrated and his lawbreaking minion Oliver North became a hero. \nDon’t underestimate the stupidity of the American people.", ">\n\nI'd encourage everyone to read the actual report, which you can find as a PDF here.\nYes, it's 845 pages, but at least a third of those pages are endnotes (which mostly just specify which exact interview a quote comes from). The report's text is easily readable. And it's damned important!", ">\n\nYesss I’m on page like 380 or something- can confirm it’s a FAST read for an 845 page doc lol", ">\n\nMy wife says the DOJ should indict him for something (the most provable charge of any of the possible charges) on January 6 2023. I agree and when DOJ does it promise a Superseding indictment with all charges to come soon.", ">\n\nPaywall", ">\n\nOne can criticize law enforcement when they go out of uniform in unmarked vans and grab people up without identifying themselves as police, and also praise the Capitol Police and Secret Service for saving your life, the two are not incompatible views.", ">\n\nYeah is this some sort of gotcha? I don't even understand why they posted it. It has nothing to do with the situation, and is a terrible comparison.", ">\n\nThis is a nice break from something unrelated that happened once, 2 and a half years ago.", ">\n\nWhen people bring up something completely unrelated like that when January 6th is the issue i just assume they support what happened on January 6th and they just want to derail the discussion about it because the more information people find out about what actually happened the worse it is.", ">\n\n\nDead horse but NYT will beat it for every left wing nutcase.\n\nGood God.... You didn't even get the source right...\nAnd it's literally right in front of you.", ">\n\nWhen you’ve never read a real news source they all kind of blend together.", ">\n\nLet's not. I would rather have someone with the sense and not get themselves into that situation in the first place. She wasn't going to say anything until they forced her to lie to the committee. Not to mention, she's still a Republican.", ">\n\nBetter odds she has an only fans account" ]

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[ "Why that has all the hallmarks of a criminal conspiracy to commit human trafficking. Also, a pretty clear piece of evidence that the adviser knew this was a crime and took actions to conceal their identity." ]

[ "Why that has all the hallmarks of a criminal conspiracy to commit human trafficking. Also, a pretty clear piece of evidence that the adviser knew this was a crime and took actions to conceal their identity.", ">\n\n100% !!!" ]

[ "Why that has all the hallmarks of a criminal conspiracy to commit human trafficking. Also, a pretty clear piece of evidence that the adviser knew this was a crime and took actions to conceal their identity.", ">\n\n100% !!!", ">\n\nBut remember, republicans are above the law, it says so in the Bible." ]

[ "Why that has all the hallmarks of a criminal conspiracy to commit human trafficking. Also, a pretty clear piece of evidence that the adviser knew this was a crime and took actions to conceal their identity.", ">\n\n100% !!!", ">\n\nBut remember, republicans are above the law, it says so in the Bible.", ">\n\nReagan 19:84" ]

[ "Why that has all the hallmarks of a criminal conspiracy to commit human trafficking. Also, a pretty clear piece of evidence that the adviser knew this was a crime and took actions to conceal their identity.", ">\n\n100% !!!", ">\n\nBut remember, republicans are above the law, it says so in the Bible.", ">\n\nReagan 19:84", ">\n\n“A reading from the Book of Bush according to Trump.”" ]

[ "Why that has all the hallmarks of a criminal conspiracy to commit human trafficking. Also, a pretty clear piece of evidence that the adviser knew this was a crime and took actions to conceal their identity.", ">\n\n100% !!!", ">\n\nBut remember, republicans are above the law, it says so in the Bible.", ">\n\nReagan 19:84", ">\n\n“A reading from the Book of Bush according to Trump.”", ">\n\nAnd I don't think that book is related to politics in any way" ]

[ "Why that has all the hallmarks of a criminal conspiracy to commit human trafficking. Also, a pretty clear piece of evidence that the adviser knew this was a crime and took actions to conceal their identity.", ">\n\n100% !!!", ">\n\nBut remember, republicans are above the law, it says so in the Bible.", ">\n\nReagan 19:84", ">\n\n“A reading from the Book of Bush according to Trump.”", ">\n\nAnd I don't think that book is related to politics in any way", ">\n\nI’m afraid to ask now." ]

[ "Why that has all the hallmarks of a criminal conspiracy to commit human trafficking. Also, a pretty clear piece of evidence that the adviser knew this was a crime and took actions to conceal their identity.", ">\n\n100% !!!", ">\n\nBut remember, republicans are above the law, it says so in the Bible.", ">\n\nReagan 19:84", ">\n\n“A reading from the Book of Bush according to Trump.”", ">\n\nAnd I don't think that book is related to politics in any way", ">\n\nI’m afraid to ask now.", ">\n\nI just figured if TFG was gonna read anything, it would be a picture book, and... well, I'll let you figure out what the Book of Bush would look like to such a sleaze. ;)" ]

[ "Why that has all the hallmarks of a criminal conspiracy to commit human trafficking. Also, a pretty clear piece of evidence that the adviser knew this was a crime and took actions to conceal their identity.", ">\n\n100% !!!", ">\n\nBut remember, republicans are above the law, it says so in the Bible.", ">\n\nReagan 19:84", ">\n\n“A reading from the Book of Bush according to Trump.”", ">\n\nAnd I don't think that book is related to politics in any way", ">\n\nI’m afraid to ask now.", ">\n\nI just figured if TFG was gonna read anything, it would be a picture book, and... well, I'll let you figure out what the Book of Bush would look like to such a sleaze. ;)", ">\n\nI don't know why, but my brain immediately went to that being a pop up book and it made me laugh." ]

[ "Why that has all the hallmarks of a criminal conspiracy to commit human trafficking. Also, a pretty clear piece of evidence that the adviser knew this was a crime and took actions to conceal their identity.", ">\n\n100% !!!", ">\n\nBut remember, republicans are above the law, it says so in the Bible.", ">\n\nReagan 19:84", ">\n\n“A reading from the Book of Bush according to Trump.”", ">\n\nAnd I don't think that book is related to politics in any way", ">\n\nI’m afraid to ask now.", ">\n\nI just figured if TFG was gonna read anything, it would be a picture book, and... well, I'll let you figure out what the Book of Bush would look like to such a sleaze. ;)", ">\n\nI don't know why, but my brain immediately went to that being a pop up book and it made me laugh.", ">\n\nAlmost like they knew what they were doing was illegal and immoral." ]

[ "Why that has all the hallmarks of a criminal conspiracy to commit human trafficking. Also, a pretty clear piece of evidence that the adviser knew this was a crime and took actions to conceal their identity.", ">\n\n100% !!!", ">\n\nBut remember, republicans are above the law, it says so in the Bible.", ">\n\nReagan 19:84", ">\n\n“A reading from the Book of Bush according to Trump.”", ">\n\nAnd I don't think that book is related to politics in any way", ">\n\nI’m afraid to ask now.", ">\n\nI just figured if TFG was gonna read anything, it would be a picture book, and... well, I'll let you figure out what the Book of Bush would look like to such a sleaze. ;)", ">\n\nI don't know why, but my brain immediately went to that being a pop up book and it made me laugh.", ">\n\nAlmost like they knew what they were doing was illegal and immoral.", ">\n\n\"Illegal and immoral\" is actually CPAC's 2024 platform." ]

[ "Why that has all the hallmarks of a criminal conspiracy to commit human trafficking. Also, a pretty clear piece of evidence that the adviser knew this was a crime and took actions to conceal their identity.", ">\n\n100% !!!", ">\n\nBut remember, republicans are above the law, it says so in the Bible.", ">\n\nReagan 19:84", ">\n\n“A reading from the Book of Bush according to Trump.”", ">\n\nAnd I don't think that book is related to politics in any way", ">\n\nI’m afraid to ask now.", ">\n\nI just figured if TFG was gonna read anything, it would be a picture book, and... well, I'll let you figure out what the Book of Bush would look like to such a sleaze. ;)", ">\n\nI don't know why, but my brain immediately went to that being a pop up book and it made me laugh.", ">\n\nAlmost like they knew what they were doing was illegal and immoral.", ">\n\n\"Illegal and immoral\" is actually CPAC's 2024 platform.", ">\n\n\"We are all Domestic Terrorists\"\n-Their own fuckin scroll board at their own event." ]

[ "Why that has all the hallmarks of a criminal conspiracy to commit human trafficking. Also, a pretty clear piece of evidence that the adviser knew this was a crime and took actions to conceal their identity.", ">\n\n100% !!!", ">\n\nBut remember, republicans are above the law, it says so in the Bible.", ">\n\nReagan 19:84", ">\n\n“A reading from the Book of Bush according to Trump.”", ">\n\nAnd I don't think that book is related to politics in any way", ">\n\nI’m afraid to ask now.", ">\n\nI just figured if TFG was gonna read anything, it would be a picture book, and... well, I'll let you figure out what the Book of Bush would look like to such a sleaze. ;)", ">\n\nI don't know why, but my brain immediately went to that being a pop up book and it made me laugh.", ">\n\nAlmost like they knew what they were doing was illegal and immoral.", ">\n\n\"Illegal and immoral\" is actually CPAC's 2024 platform.", ">\n\n\"We are all Domestic Terrorists\"\n-Their own fuckin scroll board at their own event.", ">\n\nWhy that isn’t a bigger deal is mind blowing for me. As a former conservative that was all red flags to me." ]

[ "Why that has all the hallmarks of a criminal conspiracy to commit human trafficking. Also, a pretty clear piece of evidence that the adviser knew this was a crime and took actions to conceal their identity.", ">\n\n100% !!!", ">\n\nBut remember, republicans are above the law, it says so in the Bible.", ">\n\nReagan 19:84", ">\n\n“A reading from the Book of Bush according to Trump.”", ">\n\nAnd I don't think that book is related to politics in any way", ">\n\nI’m afraid to ask now.", ">\n\nI just figured if TFG was gonna read anything, it would be a picture book, and... well, I'll let you figure out what the Book of Bush would look like to such a sleaze. ;)", ">\n\nI don't know why, but my brain immediately went to that being a pop up book and it made me laugh.", ">\n\nAlmost like they knew what they were doing was illegal and immoral.", ">\n\n\"Illegal and immoral\" is actually CPAC's 2024 platform.", ">\n\n\"We are all Domestic Terrorists\"\n-Their own fuckin scroll board at their own event.", ">\n\nWhy that isn’t a bigger deal is mind blowing for me. As a former conservative that was all red flags to me.", ">\n\nOoo. You had me at “Former conservative.”" ]

[ "Why that has all the hallmarks of a criminal conspiracy to commit human trafficking. Also, a pretty clear piece of evidence that the adviser knew this was a crime and took actions to conceal their identity.", ">\n\n100% !!!", ">\n\nBut remember, republicans are above the law, it says so in the Bible.", ">\n\nReagan 19:84", ">\n\n“A reading from the Book of Bush according to Trump.”", ">\n\nAnd I don't think that book is related to politics in any way", ">\n\nI’m afraid to ask now.", ">\n\nI just figured if TFG was gonna read anything, it would be a picture book, and... well, I'll let you figure out what the Book of Bush would look like to such a sleaze. ;)", ">\n\nI don't know why, but my brain immediately went to that being a pop up book and it made me laugh.", ">\n\nAlmost like they knew what they were doing was illegal and immoral.", ">\n\n\"Illegal and immoral\" is actually CPAC's 2024 platform.", ">\n\n\"We are all Domestic Terrorists\"\n-Their own fuckin scroll board at their own event.", ">\n\nWhy that isn’t a bigger deal is mind blowing for me. As a former conservative that was all red flags to me.", ">\n\nOoo. You had me at “Former conservative.”", ">\n\nYeah. Bush era. Then the goalposts moved hard. Center left now. It’s weird. But I’m ok with it." ]

[ "Why that has all the hallmarks of a criminal conspiracy to commit human trafficking. Also, a pretty clear piece of evidence that the adviser knew this was a crime and took actions to conceal their identity.", ">\n\n100% !!!", ">\n\nBut remember, republicans are above the law, it says so in the Bible.", ">\n\nReagan 19:84", ">\n\n“A reading from the Book of Bush according to Trump.”", ">\n\nAnd I don't think that book is related to politics in any way", ">\n\nI’m afraid to ask now.", ">\n\nI just figured if TFG was gonna read anything, it would be a picture book, and... well, I'll let you figure out what the Book of Bush would look like to such a sleaze. ;)", ">\n\nI don't know why, but my brain immediately went to that being a pop up book and it made me laugh.", ">\n\nAlmost like they knew what they were doing was illegal and immoral.", ">\n\n\"Illegal and immoral\" is actually CPAC's 2024 platform.", ">\n\n\"We are all Domestic Terrorists\"\n-Their own fuckin scroll board at their own event.", ">\n\nWhy that isn’t a bigger deal is mind blowing for me. As a former conservative that was all red flags to me.", ">\n\nOoo. You had me at “Former conservative.”", ">\n\nYeah. Bush era. Then the goalposts moved hard. Center left now. It’s weird. But I’m ok with it.", ">\n\nI read Globalists instead of goalposts initially. Very different vibe." ]

[ "Why that has all the hallmarks of a criminal conspiracy to commit human trafficking. Also, a pretty clear piece of evidence that the adviser knew this was a crime and took actions to conceal their identity.", ">\n\n100% !!!", ">\n\nBut remember, republicans are above the law, it says so in the Bible.", ">\n\nReagan 19:84", ">\n\n“A reading from the Book of Bush according to Trump.”", ">\n\nAnd I don't think that book is related to politics in any way", ">\n\nI’m afraid to ask now.", ">\n\nI just figured if TFG was gonna read anything, it would be a picture book, and... well, I'll let you figure out what the Book of Bush would look like to such a sleaze. ;)", ">\n\nI don't know why, but my brain immediately went to that being a pop up book and it made me laugh.", ">\n\nAlmost like they knew what they were doing was illegal and immoral.", ">\n\n\"Illegal and immoral\" is actually CPAC's 2024 platform.", ">\n\n\"We are all Domestic Terrorists\"\n-Their own fuckin scroll board at their own event.", ">\n\nWhy that isn’t a bigger deal is mind blowing for me. As a former conservative that was all red flags to me.", ">\n\nOoo. You had me at “Former conservative.”", ">\n\nYeah. Bush era. Then the goalposts moved hard. Center left now. It’s weird. But I’m ok with it.", ">\n\nI read Globalists instead of goalposts initially. Very different vibe.", ">\n\nLol big diff. It happens to me a lot." ]

[ "Why that has all the hallmarks of a criminal conspiracy to commit human trafficking. Also, a pretty clear piece of evidence that the adviser knew this was a crime and took actions to conceal their identity.", ">\n\n100% !!!", ">\n\nBut remember, republicans are above the law, it says so in the Bible.", ">\n\nReagan 19:84", ">\n\n“A reading from the Book of Bush according to Trump.”", ">\n\nAnd I don't think that book is related to politics in any way", ">\n\nI’m afraid to ask now.", ">\n\nI just figured if TFG was gonna read anything, it would be a picture book, and... well, I'll let you figure out what the Book of Bush would look like to such a sleaze. ;)", ">\n\nI don't know why, but my brain immediately went to that being a pop up book and it made me laugh.", ">\n\nAlmost like they knew what they were doing was illegal and immoral.", ">\n\n\"Illegal and immoral\" is actually CPAC's 2024 platform.", ">\n\n\"We are all Domestic Terrorists\"\n-Their own fuckin scroll board at their own event.", ">\n\nWhy that isn’t a bigger deal is mind blowing for me. As a former conservative that was all red flags to me.", ">\n\nOoo. You had me at “Former conservative.”", ">\n\nYeah. Bush era. Then the goalposts moved hard. Center left now. It’s weird. But I’m ok with it.", ">\n\nI read Globalists instead of goalposts initially. Very different vibe.", ">\n\nLol big diff. It happens to me a lot.", ">\n\nImagine what's on Ron's laptop." ]

[ "Why that has all the hallmarks of a criminal conspiracy to commit human trafficking. Also, a pretty clear piece of evidence that the adviser knew this was a crime and took actions to conceal their identity.", ">\n\n100% !!!", ">\n\nBut remember, republicans are above the law, it says so in the Bible.", ">\n\nReagan 19:84", ">\n\n“A reading from the Book of Bush according to Trump.”", ">\n\nAnd I don't think that book is related to politics in any way", ">\n\nI’m afraid to ask now.", ">\n\nI just figured if TFG was gonna read anything, it would be a picture book, and... well, I'll let you figure out what the Book of Bush would look like to such a sleaze. ;)", ">\n\nI don't know why, but my brain immediately went to that being a pop up book and it made me laugh.", ">\n\nAlmost like they knew what they were doing was illegal and immoral.", ">\n\n\"Illegal and immoral\" is actually CPAC's 2024 platform.", ">\n\n\"We are all Domestic Terrorists\"\n-Their own fuckin scroll board at their own event.", ">\n\nWhy that isn’t a bigger deal is mind blowing for me. As a former conservative that was all red flags to me.", ">\n\nOoo. You had me at “Former conservative.”", ">\n\nYeah. Bush era. Then the goalposts moved hard. Center left now. It’s weird. But I’m ok with it.", ">\n\nI read Globalists instead of goalposts initially. Very different vibe.", ">\n\nLol big diff. It happens to me a lot.", ">\n\nImagine what's on Ron's laptop.", ">\n\nHunter Biden's penis pic, DUH!\nThey all keep it on their drives. They seem to often reference this particular nude." ]

[ "Why that has all the hallmarks of a criminal conspiracy to commit human trafficking. Also, a pretty clear piece of evidence that the adviser knew this was a crime and took actions to conceal their identity.", ">\n\n100% !!!", ">\n\nBut remember, republicans are above the law, it says so in the Bible.", ">\n\nReagan 19:84", ">\n\n“A reading from the Book of Bush according to Trump.”", ">\n\nAnd I don't think that book is related to politics in any way", ">\n\nI’m afraid to ask now.", ">\n\nI just figured if TFG was gonna read anything, it would be a picture book, and... well, I'll let you figure out what the Book of Bush would look like to such a sleaze. ;)", ">\n\nI don't know why, but my brain immediately went to that being a pop up book and it made me laugh.", ">\n\nAlmost like they knew what they were doing was illegal and immoral.", ">\n\n\"Illegal and immoral\" is actually CPAC's 2024 platform.", ">\n\n\"We are all Domestic Terrorists\"\n-Their own fuckin scroll board at their own event.", ">\n\nWhy that isn’t a bigger deal is mind blowing for me. As a former conservative that was all red flags to me.", ">\n\nOoo. You had me at “Former conservative.”", ">\n\nYeah. Bush era. Then the goalposts moved hard. Center left now. It’s weird. But I’m ok with it.", ">\n\nI read Globalists instead of goalposts initially. Very different vibe.", ">\n\nLol big diff. It happens to me a lot.", ">\n\nImagine what's on Ron's laptop.", ">\n\nHunter Biden's penis pic, DUH!\nThey all keep it on their drives. They seem to often reference this particular nude.", ">\n\nIt’s in the folder besides Melanie’s modeling nudes…which is fine, because who cares…neither of them are president, or wish to be president." ]

[ "Why that has all the hallmarks of a criminal conspiracy to commit human trafficking. Also, a pretty clear piece of evidence that the adviser knew this was a crime and took actions to conceal their identity.", ">\n\n100% !!!", ">\n\nBut remember, republicans are above the law, it says so in the Bible.", ">\n\nReagan 19:84", ">\n\n“A reading from the Book of Bush according to Trump.”", ">\n\nAnd I don't think that book is related to politics in any way", ">\n\nI’m afraid to ask now.", ">\n\nI just figured if TFG was gonna read anything, it would be a picture book, and... well, I'll let you figure out what the Book of Bush would look like to such a sleaze. ;)", ">\n\nI don't know why, but my brain immediately went to that being a pop up book and it made me laugh.", ">\n\nAlmost like they knew what they were doing was illegal and immoral.", ">\n\n\"Illegal and immoral\" is actually CPAC's 2024 platform.", ">\n\n\"We are all Domestic Terrorists\"\n-Their own fuckin scroll board at their own event.", ">\n\nWhy that isn’t a bigger deal is mind blowing for me. As a former conservative that was all red flags to me.", ">\n\nOoo. You had me at “Former conservative.”", ">\n\nYeah. Bush era. Then the goalposts moved hard. Center left now. It’s weird. But I’m ok with it.", ">\n\nI read Globalists instead of goalposts initially. Very different vibe.", ">\n\nLol big diff. It happens to me a lot.", ">\n\nImagine what's on Ron's laptop.", ">\n\nHunter Biden's penis pic, DUH!\nThey all keep it on their drives. They seem to often reference this particular nude.", ">\n\nIt’s in the folder besides Melanie’s modeling nudes…which is fine, because who cares…neither of them are president, or wish to be president.", ">\n\nThey start off with her pics and finish with his." ]

[ "Why that has all the hallmarks of a criminal conspiracy to commit human trafficking. Also, a pretty clear piece of evidence that the adviser knew this was a crime and took actions to conceal their identity.", ">\n\n100% !!!", ">\n\nBut remember, republicans are above the law, it says so in the Bible.", ">\n\nReagan 19:84", ">\n\n“A reading from the Book of Bush according to Trump.”", ">\n\nAnd I don't think that book is related to politics in any way", ">\n\nI’m afraid to ask now.", ">\n\nI just figured if TFG was gonna read anything, it would be a picture book, and... well, I'll let you figure out what the Book of Bush would look like to such a sleaze. ;)", ">\n\nI don't know why, but my brain immediately went to that being a pop up book and it made me laugh.", ">\n\nAlmost like they knew what they were doing was illegal and immoral.", ">\n\n\"Illegal and immoral\" is actually CPAC's 2024 platform.", ">\n\n\"We are all Domestic Terrorists\"\n-Their own fuckin scroll board at their own event.", ">\n\nWhy that isn’t a bigger deal is mind blowing for me. As a former conservative that was all red flags to me.", ">\n\nOoo. You had me at “Former conservative.”", ">\n\nYeah. Bush era. Then the goalposts moved hard. Center left now. It’s weird. But I’m ok with it.", ">\n\nI read Globalists instead of goalposts initially. Very different vibe.", ">\n\nLol big diff. It happens to me a lot.", ">\n\nImagine what's on Ron's laptop.", ">\n\nHunter Biden's penis pic, DUH!\nThey all keep it on their drives. They seem to often reference this particular nude.", ">\n\nIt’s in the folder besides Melanie’s modeling nudes…which is fine, because who cares…neither of them are president, or wish to be president.", ">\n\nThey start off with her pics and finish with his.", ">\n\n\nShe made a deliberate choice to risk the integrity of her communications.... simply so she could shield herself from public accountability and congressional oversight. \nA system in which the political elites are not held accountable for conduct that would land the average citizen in prison is a rotten system – and one that is far different from the type of republican government envisioned by the Founding Fathers.\n\n- Ron Desantis, OpEd on Buttery Males in the Conservative Review, 2015" ]

[ "Why that has all the hallmarks of a criminal conspiracy to commit human trafficking. Also, a pretty clear piece of evidence that the adviser knew this was a crime and took actions to conceal their identity.", ">\n\n100% !!!", ">\n\nBut remember, republicans are above the law, it says so in the Bible.", ">\n\nReagan 19:84", ">\n\n“A reading from the Book of Bush according to Trump.”", ">\n\nAnd I don't think that book is related to politics in any way", ">\n\nI’m afraid to ask now.", ">\n\nI just figured if TFG was gonna read anything, it would be a picture book, and... well, I'll let you figure out what the Book of Bush would look like to such a sleaze. ;)", ">\n\nI don't know why, but my brain immediately went to that being a pop up book and it made me laugh.", ">\n\nAlmost like they knew what they were doing was illegal and immoral.", ">\n\n\"Illegal and immoral\" is actually CPAC's 2024 platform.", ">\n\n\"We are all Domestic Terrorists\"\n-Their own fuckin scroll board at their own event.", ">\n\nWhy that isn’t a bigger deal is mind blowing for me. As a former conservative that was all red flags to me.", ">\n\nOoo. You had me at “Former conservative.”", ">\n\nYeah. Bush era. Then the goalposts moved hard. Center left now. It’s weird. But I’m ok with it.", ">\n\nI read Globalists instead of goalposts initially. Very different vibe.", ">\n\nLol big diff. It happens to me a lot.", ">\n\nImagine what's on Ron's laptop.", ">\n\nHunter Biden's penis pic, DUH!\nThey all keep it on their drives. They seem to often reference this particular nude.", ">\n\nIt’s in the folder besides Melanie’s modeling nudes…which is fine, because who cares…neither of them are president, or wish to be president.", ">\n\nThey start off with her pics and finish with his.", ">\n\n\nShe made a deliberate choice to risk the integrity of her communications.... simply so she could shield herself from public accountability and congressional oversight. \nA system in which the political elites are not held accountable for conduct that would land the average citizen in prison is a rotten system – and one that is far different from the type of republican government envisioned by the Founding Fathers.\n\n- Ron Desantis, OpEd on Buttery Males in the Conservative Review, 2015", ">\n\nThe scariest part of that is he claims a republican government was envisioned by the founding fathers." ]

[ "Why that has all the hallmarks of a criminal conspiracy to commit human trafficking. Also, a pretty clear piece of evidence that the adviser knew this was a crime and took actions to conceal their identity.", ">\n\n100% !!!", ">\n\nBut remember, republicans are above the law, it says so in the Bible.", ">\n\nReagan 19:84", ">\n\n“A reading from the Book of Bush according to Trump.”", ">\n\nAnd I don't think that book is related to politics in any way", ">\n\nI’m afraid to ask now.", ">\n\nI just figured if TFG was gonna read anything, it would be a picture book, and... well, I'll let you figure out what the Book of Bush would look like to such a sleaze. ;)", ">\n\nI don't know why, but my brain immediately went to that being a pop up book and it made me laugh.", ">\n\nAlmost like they knew what they were doing was illegal and immoral.", ">\n\n\"Illegal and immoral\" is actually CPAC's 2024 platform.", ">\n\n\"We are all Domestic Terrorists\"\n-Their own fuckin scroll board at their own event.", ">\n\nWhy that isn’t a bigger deal is mind blowing for me. As a former conservative that was all red flags to me.", ">\n\nOoo. You had me at “Former conservative.”", ">\n\nYeah. Bush era. Then the goalposts moved hard. Center left now. It’s weird. But I’m ok with it.", ">\n\nI read Globalists instead of goalposts initially. Very different vibe.", ">\n\nLol big diff. It happens to me a lot.", ">\n\nImagine what's on Ron's laptop.", ">\n\nHunter Biden's penis pic, DUH!\nThey all keep it on their drives. They seem to often reference this particular nude.", ">\n\nIt’s in the folder besides Melanie’s modeling nudes…which is fine, because who cares…neither of them are president, or wish to be president.", ">\n\nThey start off with her pics and finish with his.", ">\n\n\nShe made a deliberate choice to risk the integrity of her communications.... simply so she could shield herself from public accountability and congressional oversight. \nA system in which the political elites are not held accountable for conduct that would land the average citizen in prison is a rotten system – and one that is far different from the type of republican government envisioned by the Founding Fathers.\n\n- Ron Desantis, OpEd on Buttery Males in the Conservative Review, 2015", ">\n\nThe scariest part of that is he claims a republican government was envisioned by the founding fathers.", ">\n\nIt'S a RePuBlIc NoT a DeMoCrAcY\n^(/s)" ]

[ "Why that has all the hallmarks of a criminal conspiracy to commit human trafficking. Also, a pretty clear piece of evidence that the adviser knew this was a crime and took actions to conceal their identity.", ">\n\n100% !!!", ">\n\nBut remember, republicans are above the law, it says so in the Bible.", ">\n\nReagan 19:84", ">\n\n“A reading from the Book of Bush according to Trump.”", ">\n\nAnd I don't think that book is related to politics in any way", ">\n\nI’m afraid to ask now.", ">\n\nI just figured if TFG was gonna read anything, it would be a picture book, and... well, I'll let you figure out what the Book of Bush would look like to such a sleaze. ;)", ">\n\nI don't know why, but my brain immediately went to that being a pop up book and it made me laugh.", ">\n\nAlmost like they knew what they were doing was illegal and immoral.", ">\n\n\"Illegal and immoral\" is actually CPAC's 2024 platform.", ">\n\n\"We are all Domestic Terrorists\"\n-Their own fuckin scroll board at their own event.", ">\n\nWhy that isn’t a bigger deal is mind blowing for me. As a former conservative that was all red flags to me.", ">\n\nOoo. You had me at “Former conservative.”", ">\n\nYeah. Bush era. Then the goalposts moved hard. Center left now. It’s weird. But I’m ok with it.", ">\n\nI read Globalists instead of goalposts initially. Very different vibe.", ">\n\nLol big diff. It happens to me a lot.", ">\n\nImagine what's on Ron's laptop.", ">\n\nHunter Biden's penis pic, DUH!\nThey all keep it on their drives. They seem to often reference this particular nude.", ">\n\nIt’s in the folder besides Melanie’s modeling nudes…which is fine, because who cares…neither of them are president, or wish to be president.", ">\n\nThey start off with her pics and finish with his.", ">\n\n\nShe made a deliberate choice to risk the integrity of her communications.... simply so she could shield herself from public accountability and congressional oversight. \nA system in which the political elites are not held accountable for conduct that would land the average citizen in prison is a rotten system – and one that is far different from the type of republican government envisioned by the Founding Fathers.\n\n- Ron Desantis, OpEd on Buttery Males in the Conservative Review, 2015", ">\n\nThe scariest part of that is he claims a republican government was envisioned by the founding fathers.", ">\n\nIt'S a RePuBlIc NoT a DeMoCrAcY\n^(/s)", ">\n\nI fucking hate this anti-democratic trope. \nA Republic IS a democracy. but what makes it a republic and not a monarchy or other form of private owned sovereign state is the fact that the government is a publicly accountable organization, and is necessarily held accountable to the public by the vote.\nWhat they mean when they say that is literally “we should be able to decide who gets to participate in government, not you”. Its gross authoritarianism. A republic must be accountable to the people, which is accomplished with democracy, not by to twisting words with ugly sophistry to claw back representation from people that is theirs by right." ]

[ "Why that has all the hallmarks of a criminal conspiracy to commit human trafficking. Also, a pretty clear piece of evidence that the adviser knew this was a crime and took actions to conceal their identity.", ">\n\n100% !!!", ">\n\nBut remember, republicans are above the law, it says so in the Bible.", ">\n\nReagan 19:84", ">\n\n“A reading from the Book of Bush according to Trump.”", ">\n\nAnd I don't think that book is related to politics in any way", ">\n\nI’m afraid to ask now.", ">\n\nI just figured if TFG was gonna read anything, it would be a picture book, and... well, I'll let you figure out what the Book of Bush would look like to such a sleaze. ;)", ">\n\nI don't know why, but my brain immediately went to that being a pop up book and it made me laugh.", ">\n\nAlmost like they knew what they were doing was illegal and immoral.", ">\n\n\"Illegal and immoral\" is actually CPAC's 2024 platform.", ">\n\n\"We are all Domestic Terrorists\"\n-Their own fuckin scroll board at their own event.", ">\n\nWhy that isn’t a bigger deal is mind blowing for me. As a former conservative that was all red flags to me.", ">\n\nOoo. You had me at “Former conservative.”", ">\n\nYeah. Bush era. Then the goalposts moved hard. Center left now. It’s weird. But I’m ok with it.", ">\n\nI read Globalists instead of goalposts initially. Very different vibe.", ">\n\nLol big diff. It happens to me a lot.", ">\n\nImagine what's on Ron's laptop.", ">\n\nHunter Biden's penis pic, DUH!\nThey all keep it on their drives. They seem to often reference this particular nude.", ">\n\nIt’s in the folder besides Melanie’s modeling nudes…which is fine, because who cares…neither of them are president, or wish to be president.", ">\n\nThey start off with her pics and finish with his.", ">\n\n\nShe made a deliberate choice to risk the integrity of her communications.... simply so she could shield herself from public accountability and congressional oversight. \nA system in which the political elites are not held accountable for conduct that would land the average citizen in prison is a rotten system – and one that is far different from the type of republican government envisioned by the Founding Fathers.\n\n- Ron Desantis, OpEd on Buttery Males in the Conservative Review, 2015", ">\n\nThe scariest part of that is he claims a republican government was envisioned by the founding fathers.", ">\n\nIt'S a RePuBlIc NoT a DeMoCrAcY\n^(/s)", ">\n\nI fucking hate this anti-democratic trope. \nA Republic IS a democracy. but what makes it a republic and not a monarchy or other form of private owned sovereign state is the fact that the government is a publicly accountable organization, and is necessarily held accountable to the public by the vote.\nWhat they mean when they say that is literally “we should be able to decide who gets to participate in government, not you”. Its gross authoritarianism. A republic must be accountable to the people, which is accomplished with democracy, not by to twisting words with ugly sophistry to claw back representation from people that is theirs by right.", ">\n\n\nbut what makes it a republic and not a monarchy or other form of private owned sovereign state is the fact that the government is a publicly accountable organization, and is necessarily held accountable to the public by the vote.\n\nThis isn't entirely correct. Republic only means that it has elected officials at the top, whom do not have power but wield the power of the office, and their positions are not hereditary. This is in contrast to monarchy (may not be elected but the title is hereditary) and dictatorship (not elected and the title may not be hereditary). For example the Republic of Venice had its rulers elected, but not democratically. On the other end constitutional monarchies (like the UK, Denmark) are democratic, but not a republic as their heads of state aren't elected. And there are gray areas that don't really fit in there, like the Holy Roman Empire had its emperors elected (not democratically, by rulers of member states, but still), yet not a republic or democracy.\nDemocracy tells about the source of the power the offices wield (demos - the 'mob' or people). It is contrary to monarchy (bloodline) where the confusion comes from, theocracy (god), and dictatorship (power/might/military).\nI'm not trying to contradict you here, the anti-democratic shit in the US is tiring even outside, but we need to have the best possible argument to counter all the crazies." ]

[ "Why that has all the hallmarks of a criminal conspiracy to commit human trafficking. Also, a pretty clear piece of evidence that the adviser knew this was a crime and took actions to conceal their identity.", ">\n\n100% !!!", ">\n\nBut remember, republicans are above the law, it says so in the Bible.", ">\n\nReagan 19:84", ">\n\n“A reading from the Book of Bush according to Trump.”", ">\n\nAnd I don't think that book is related to politics in any way", ">\n\nI’m afraid to ask now.", ">\n\nI just figured if TFG was gonna read anything, it would be a picture book, and... well, I'll let you figure out what the Book of Bush would look like to such a sleaze. ;)", ">\n\nI don't know why, but my brain immediately went to that being a pop up book and it made me laugh.", ">\n\nAlmost like they knew what they were doing was illegal and immoral.", ">\n\n\"Illegal and immoral\" is actually CPAC's 2024 platform.", ">\n\n\"We are all Domestic Terrorists\"\n-Their own fuckin scroll board at their own event.", ">\n\nWhy that isn’t a bigger deal is mind blowing for me. As a former conservative that was all red flags to me.", ">\n\nOoo. You had me at “Former conservative.”", ">\n\nYeah. Bush era. Then the goalposts moved hard. Center left now. It’s weird. But I’m ok with it.", ">\n\nI read Globalists instead of goalposts initially. Very different vibe.", ">\n\nLol big diff. It happens to me a lot.", ">\n\nImagine what's on Ron's laptop.", ">\n\nHunter Biden's penis pic, DUH!\nThey all keep it on their drives. They seem to often reference this particular nude.", ">\n\nIt’s in the folder besides Melanie’s modeling nudes…which is fine, because who cares…neither of them are president, or wish to be president.", ">\n\nThey start off with her pics and finish with his.", ">\n\n\nShe made a deliberate choice to risk the integrity of her communications.... simply so she could shield herself from public accountability and congressional oversight. \nA system in which the political elites are not held accountable for conduct that would land the average citizen in prison is a rotten system – and one that is far different from the type of republican government envisioned by the Founding Fathers.\n\n- Ron Desantis, OpEd on Buttery Males in the Conservative Review, 2015", ">\n\nThe scariest part of that is he claims a republican government was envisioned by the founding fathers.", ">\n\nIt'S a RePuBlIc NoT a DeMoCrAcY\n^(/s)", ">\n\nI fucking hate this anti-democratic trope. \nA Republic IS a democracy. but what makes it a republic and not a monarchy or other form of private owned sovereign state is the fact that the government is a publicly accountable organization, and is necessarily held accountable to the public by the vote.\nWhat they mean when they say that is literally “we should be able to decide who gets to participate in government, not you”. Its gross authoritarianism. A republic must be accountable to the people, which is accomplished with democracy, not by to twisting words with ugly sophistry to claw back representation from people that is theirs by right.", ">\n\n\nbut what makes it a republic and not a monarchy or other form of private owned sovereign state is the fact that the government is a publicly accountable organization, and is necessarily held accountable to the public by the vote.\n\nThis isn't entirely correct. Republic only means that it has elected officials at the top, whom do not have power but wield the power of the office, and their positions are not hereditary. This is in contrast to monarchy (may not be elected but the title is hereditary) and dictatorship (not elected and the title may not be hereditary). For example the Republic of Venice had its rulers elected, but not democratically. On the other end constitutional monarchies (like the UK, Denmark) are democratic, but not a republic as their heads of state aren't elected. And there are gray areas that don't really fit in there, like the Holy Roman Empire had its emperors elected (not democratically, by rulers of member states, but still), yet not a republic or democracy.\nDemocracy tells about the source of the power the offices wield (demos - the 'mob' or people). It is contrary to monarchy (bloodline) where the confusion comes from, theocracy (god), and dictatorship (power/might/military).\nI'm not trying to contradict you here, the anti-democratic shit in the US is tiring even outside, but we need to have the best possible argument to counter all the crazies.", ">\n\nYou're entirely right, but this sort of nuance is utterly wasted on the American right. Better to just say \"a republic is a form of democracy, you absolute numpty\" and move on" ]

[ "Why that has all the hallmarks of a criminal conspiracy to commit human trafficking. Also, a pretty clear piece of evidence that the adviser knew this was a crime and took actions to conceal their identity.", ">\n\n100% !!!", ">\n\nBut remember, republicans are above the law, it says so in the Bible.", ">\n\nReagan 19:84", ">\n\n“A reading from the Book of Bush according to Trump.”", ">\n\nAnd I don't think that book is related to politics in any way", ">\n\nI’m afraid to ask now.", ">\n\nI just figured if TFG was gonna read anything, it would be a picture book, and... well, I'll let you figure out what the Book of Bush would look like to such a sleaze. ;)", ">\n\nI don't know why, but my brain immediately went to that being a pop up book and it made me laugh.", ">\n\nAlmost like they knew what they were doing was illegal and immoral.", ">\n\n\"Illegal and immoral\" is actually CPAC's 2024 platform.", ">\n\n\"We are all Domestic Terrorists\"\n-Their own fuckin scroll board at their own event.", ">\n\nWhy that isn’t a bigger deal is mind blowing for me. As a former conservative that was all red flags to me.", ">\n\nOoo. You had me at “Former conservative.”", ">\n\nYeah. Bush era. Then the goalposts moved hard. Center left now. It’s weird. But I’m ok with it.", ">\n\nI read Globalists instead of goalposts initially. Very different vibe.", ">\n\nLol big diff. It happens to me a lot.", ">\n\nImagine what's on Ron's laptop.", ">\n\nHunter Biden's penis pic, DUH!\nThey all keep it on their drives. They seem to often reference this particular nude.", ">\n\nIt’s in the folder besides Melanie’s modeling nudes…which is fine, because who cares…neither of them are president, or wish to be president.", ">\n\nThey start off with her pics and finish with his.", ">\n\n\nShe made a deliberate choice to risk the integrity of her communications.... simply so she could shield herself from public accountability and congressional oversight. \nA system in which the political elites are not held accountable for conduct that would land the average citizen in prison is a rotten system – and one that is far different from the type of republican government envisioned by the Founding Fathers.\n\n- Ron Desantis, OpEd on Buttery Males in the Conservative Review, 2015", ">\n\nThe scariest part of that is he claims a republican government was envisioned by the founding fathers.", ">\n\nIt'S a RePuBlIc NoT a DeMoCrAcY\n^(/s)", ">\n\nI fucking hate this anti-democratic trope. \nA Republic IS a democracy. but what makes it a republic and not a monarchy or other form of private owned sovereign state is the fact that the government is a publicly accountable organization, and is necessarily held accountable to the public by the vote.\nWhat they mean when they say that is literally “we should be able to decide who gets to participate in government, not you”. Its gross authoritarianism. A republic must be accountable to the people, which is accomplished with democracy, not by to twisting words with ugly sophistry to claw back representation from people that is theirs by right.", ">\n\n\nbut what makes it a republic and not a monarchy or other form of private owned sovereign state is the fact that the government is a publicly accountable organization, and is necessarily held accountable to the public by the vote.\n\nThis isn't entirely correct. Republic only means that it has elected officials at the top, whom do not have power but wield the power of the office, and their positions are not hereditary. This is in contrast to monarchy (may not be elected but the title is hereditary) and dictatorship (not elected and the title may not be hereditary). For example the Republic of Venice had its rulers elected, but not democratically. On the other end constitutional monarchies (like the UK, Denmark) are democratic, but not a republic as their heads of state aren't elected. And there are gray areas that don't really fit in there, like the Holy Roman Empire had its emperors elected (not democratically, by rulers of member states, but still), yet not a republic or democracy.\nDemocracy tells about the source of the power the offices wield (demos - the 'mob' or people). It is contrary to monarchy (bloodline) where the confusion comes from, theocracy (god), and dictatorship (power/might/military).\nI'm not trying to contradict you here, the anti-democratic shit in the US is tiring even outside, but we need to have the best possible argument to counter all the crazies.", ">\n\nYou're entirely right, but this sort of nuance is utterly wasted on the American right. Better to just say \"a republic is a form of democracy, you absolute numpty\" and move on", ">\n\nFrom Wikipedia regarding Florida’s “Government-in-the-Sunshine law”:\n\nFlorida's Government in the Sunshine Law, commonly called the Sunshine Law, passed in 1967. It requires that all meetings of any state, county, or municipal board or commission in Florida be open to the public, and declares that actions taken at closed meetings are not binding (Section 286.011, Florida Statutes). \"Meeting\" is construed broadly, and is not confined to \"formal\" assemblages at which a ritualistic vote takes place. The legislature intended to make open the entire decision-making process by the enactment of the Sunshine Law." ]

[ "Why that has all the hallmarks of a criminal conspiracy to commit human trafficking. Also, a pretty clear piece of evidence that the adviser knew this was a crime and took actions to conceal their identity.", ">\n\n100% !!!", ">\n\nBut remember, republicans are above the law, it says so in the Bible.", ">\n\nReagan 19:84", ">\n\n“A reading from the Book of Bush according to Trump.”", ">\n\nAnd I don't think that book is related to politics in any way", ">\n\nI’m afraid to ask now.", ">\n\nI just figured if TFG was gonna read anything, it would be a picture book, and... well, I'll let you figure out what the Book of Bush would look like to such a sleaze. ;)", ">\n\nI don't know why, but my brain immediately went to that being a pop up book and it made me laugh.", ">\n\nAlmost like they knew what they were doing was illegal and immoral.", ">\n\n\"Illegal and immoral\" is actually CPAC's 2024 platform.", ">\n\n\"We are all Domestic Terrorists\"\n-Their own fuckin scroll board at their own event.", ">\n\nWhy that isn’t a bigger deal is mind blowing for me. As a former conservative that was all red flags to me.", ">\n\nOoo. You had me at “Former conservative.”", ">\n\nYeah. Bush era. Then the goalposts moved hard. Center left now. It’s weird. But I’m ok with it.", ">\n\nI read Globalists instead of goalposts initially. Very different vibe.", ">\n\nLol big diff. It happens to me a lot.", ">\n\nImagine what's on Ron's laptop.", ">\n\nHunter Biden's penis pic, DUH!\nThey all keep it on their drives. They seem to often reference this particular nude.", ">\n\nIt’s in the folder besides Melanie’s modeling nudes…which is fine, because who cares…neither of them are president, or wish to be president.", ">\n\nThey start off with her pics and finish with his.", ">\n\n\nShe made a deliberate choice to risk the integrity of her communications.... simply so she could shield herself from public accountability and congressional oversight. \nA system in which the political elites are not held accountable for conduct that would land the average citizen in prison is a rotten system – and one that is far different from the type of republican government envisioned by the Founding Fathers.\n\n- Ron Desantis, OpEd on Buttery Males in the Conservative Review, 2015", ">\n\nThe scariest part of that is he claims a republican government was envisioned by the founding fathers.", ">\n\nIt'S a RePuBlIc NoT a DeMoCrAcY\n^(/s)", ">\n\nI fucking hate this anti-democratic trope. \nA Republic IS a democracy. but what makes it a republic and not a monarchy or other form of private owned sovereign state is the fact that the government is a publicly accountable organization, and is necessarily held accountable to the public by the vote.\nWhat they mean when they say that is literally “we should be able to decide who gets to participate in government, not you”. Its gross authoritarianism. A republic must be accountable to the people, which is accomplished with democracy, not by to twisting words with ugly sophistry to claw back representation from people that is theirs by right.", ">\n\n\nbut what makes it a republic and not a monarchy or other form of private owned sovereign state is the fact that the government is a publicly accountable organization, and is necessarily held accountable to the public by the vote.\n\nThis isn't entirely correct. Republic only means that it has elected officials at the top, whom do not have power but wield the power of the office, and their positions are not hereditary. This is in contrast to monarchy (may not be elected but the title is hereditary) and dictatorship (not elected and the title may not be hereditary). For example the Republic of Venice had its rulers elected, but not democratically. On the other end constitutional monarchies (like the UK, Denmark) are democratic, but not a republic as their heads of state aren't elected. And there are gray areas that don't really fit in there, like the Holy Roman Empire had its emperors elected (not democratically, by rulers of member states, but still), yet not a republic or democracy.\nDemocracy tells about the source of the power the offices wield (demos - the 'mob' or people). It is contrary to monarchy (bloodline) where the confusion comes from, theocracy (god), and dictatorship (power/might/military).\nI'm not trying to contradict you here, the anti-democratic shit in the US is tiring even outside, but we need to have the best possible argument to counter all the crazies.", ">\n\nYou're entirely right, but this sort of nuance is utterly wasted on the American right. Better to just say \"a republic is a form of democracy, you absolute numpty\" and move on", ">\n\nFrom Wikipedia regarding Florida’s “Government-in-the-Sunshine law”:\n\nFlorida's Government in the Sunshine Law, commonly called the Sunshine Law, passed in 1967. It requires that all meetings of any state, county, or municipal board or commission in Florida be open to the public, and declares that actions taken at closed meetings are not binding (Section 286.011, Florida Statutes). \"Meeting\" is construed broadly, and is not confined to \"formal\" assemblages at which a ritualistic vote takes place. The legislature intended to make open the entire decision-making process by the enactment of the Sunshine Law.", ">\n\nLock\nHim\nUp\nShould be the chant." ]

[ "Why that has all the hallmarks of a criminal conspiracy to commit human trafficking. Also, a pretty clear piece of evidence that the adviser knew this was a crime and took actions to conceal their identity.", ">\n\n100% !!!", ">\n\nBut remember, republicans are above the law, it says so in the Bible.", ">\n\nReagan 19:84", ">\n\n“A reading from the Book of Bush according to Trump.”", ">\n\nAnd I don't think that book is related to politics in any way", ">\n\nI’m afraid to ask now.", ">\n\nI just figured if TFG was gonna read anything, it would be a picture book, and... well, I'll let you figure out what the Book of Bush would look like to such a sleaze. ;)", ">\n\nI don't know why, but my brain immediately went to that being a pop up book and it made me laugh.", ">\n\nAlmost like they knew what they were doing was illegal and immoral.", ">\n\n\"Illegal and immoral\" is actually CPAC's 2024 platform.", ">\n\n\"We are all Domestic Terrorists\"\n-Their own fuckin scroll board at their own event.", ">\n\nWhy that isn’t a bigger deal is mind blowing for me. As a former conservative that was all red flags to me.", ">\n\nOoo. You had me at “Former conservative.”", ">\n\nYeah. Bush era. Then the goalposts moved hard. Center left now. It’s weird. But I’m ok with it.", ">\n\nI read Globalists instead of goalposts initially. Very different vibe.", ">\n\nLol big diff. It happens to me a lot.", ">\n\nImagine what's on Ron's laptop.", ">\n\nHunter Biden's penis pic, DUH!\nThey all keep it on their drives. They seem to often reference this particular nude.", ">\n\nIt’s in the folder besides Melanie’s modeling nudes…which is fine, because who cares…neither of them are president, or wish to be president.", ">\n\nThey start off with her pics and finish with his.", ">\n\n\nShe made a deliberate choice to risk the integrity of her communications.... simply so she could shield herself from public accountability and congressional oversight. \nA system in which the political elites are not held accountable for conduct that would land the average citizen in prison is a rotten system – and one that is far different from the type of republican government envisioned by the Founding Fathers.\n\n- Ron Desantis, OpEd on Buttery Males in the Conservative Review, 2015", ">\n\nThe scariest part of that is he claims a republican government was envisioned by the founding fathers.", ">\n\nIt'S a RePuBlIc NoT a DeMoCrAcY\n^(/s)", ">\n\nI fucking hate this anti-democratic trope. \nA Republic IS a democracy. but what makes it a republic and not a monarchy or other form of private owned sovereign state is the fact that the government is a publicly accountable organization, and is necessarily held accountable to the public by the vote.\nWhat they mean when they say that is literally “we should be able to decide who gets to participate in government, not you”. Its gross authoritarianism. A republic must be accountable to the people, which is accomplished with democracy, not by to twisting words with ugly sophistry to claw back representation from people that is theirs by right.", ">\n\n\nbut what makes it a republic and not a monarchy or other form of private owned sovereign state is the fact that the government is a publicly accountable organization, and is necessarily held accountable to the public by the vote.\n\nThis isn't entirely correct. Republic only means that it has elected officials at the top, whom do not have power but wield the power of the office, and their positions are not hereditary. This is in contrast to monarchy (may not be elected but the title is hereditary) and dictatorship (not elected and the title may not be hereditary). For example the Republic of Venice had its rulers elected, but not democratically. On the other end constitutional monarchies (like the UK, Denmark) are democratic, but not a republic as their heads of state aren't elected. And there are gray areas that don't really fit in there, like the Holy Roman Empire had its emperors elected (not democratically, by rulers of member states, but still), yet not a republic or democracy.\nDemocracy tells about the source of the power the offices wield (demos - the 'mob' or people). It is contrary to monarchy (bloodline) where the confusion comes from, theocracy (god), and dictatorship (power/might/military).\nI'm not trying to contradict you here, the anti-democratic shit in the US is tiring even outside, but we need to have the best possible argument to counter all the crazies.", ">\n\nYou're entirely right, but this sort of nuance is utterly wasted on the American right. Better to just say \"a republic is a form of democracy, you absolute numpty\" and move on", ">\n\nFrom Wikipedia regarding Florida’s “Government-in-the-Sunshine law”:\n\nFlorida's Government in the Sunshine Law, commonly called the Sunshine Law, passed in 1967. It requires that all meetings of any state, county, or municipal board or commission in Florida be open to the public, and declares that actions taken at closed meetings are not binding (Section 286.011, Florida Statutes). \"Meeting\" is construed broadly, and is not confined to \"formal\" assemblages at which a ritualistic vote takes place. The legislature intended to make open the entire decision-making process by the enactment of the Sunshine Law.", ">\n\nLock\nHim\nUp\nShould be the chant.", ">\n\nButter his mails?" ]

[ "Why that has all the hallmarks of a criminal conspiracy to commit human trafficking. Also, a pretty clear piece of evidence that the adviser knew this was a crime and took actions to conceal their identity.", ">\n\n100% !!!", ">\n\nBut remember, republicans are above the law, it says so in the Bible.", ">\n\nReagan 19:84", ">\n\n“A reading from the Book of Bush according to Trump.”", ">\n\nAnd I don't think that book is related to politics in any way", ">\n\nI’m afraid to ask now.", ">\n\nI just figured if TFG was gonna read anything, it would be a picture book, and... well, I'll let you figure out what the Book of Bush would look like to such a sleaze. ;)", ">\n\nI don't know why, but my brain immediately went to that being a pop up book and it made me laugh.", ">\n\nAlmost like they knew what they were doing was illegal and immoral.", ">\n\n\"Illegal and immoral\" is actually CPAC's 2024 platform.", ">\n\n\"We are all Domestic Terrorists\"\n-Their own fuckin scroll board at their own event.", ">\n\nWhy that isn’t a bigger deal is mind blowing for me. As a former conservative that was all red flags to me.", ">\n\nOoo. You had me at “Former conservative.”", ">\n\nYeah. Bush era. Then the goalposts moved hard. Center left now. It’s weird. But I’m ok with it.", ">\n\nI read Globalists instead of goalposts initially. Very different vibe.", ">\n\nLol big diff. It happens to me a lot.", ">\n\nImagine what's on Ron's laptop.", ">\n\nHunter Biden's penis pic, DUH!\nThey all keep it on their drives. They seem to often reference this particular nude.", ">\n\nIt’s in the folder besides Melanie’s modeling nudes…which is fine, because who cares…neither of them are president, or wish to be president.", ">\n\nThey start off with her pics and finish with his.", ">\n\n\nShe made a deliberate choice to risk the integrity of her communications.... simply so she could shield herself from public accountability and congressional oversight. \nA system in which the political elites are not held accountable for conduct that would land the average citizen in prison is a rotten system – and one that is far different from the type of republican government envisioned by the Founding Fathers.\n\n- Ron Desantis, OpEd on Buttery Males in the Conservative Review, 2015", ">\n\nThe scariest part of that is he claims a republican government was envisioned by the founding fathers.", ">\n\nIt'S a RePuBlIc NoT a DeMoCrAcY\n^(/s)", ">\n\nI fucking hate this anti-democratic trope. \nA Republic IS a democracy. but what makes it a republic and not a monarchy or other form of private owned sovereign state is the fact that the government is a publicly accountable organization, and is necessarily held accountable to the public by the vote.\nWhat they mean when they say that is literally “we should be able to decide who gets to participate in government, not you”. Its gross authoritarianism. A republic must be accountable to the people, which is accomplished with democracy, not by to twisting words with ugly sophistry to claw back representation from people that is theirs by right.", ">\n\n\nbut what makes it a republic and not a monarchy or other form of private owned sovereign state is the fact that the government is a publicly accountable organization, and is necessarily held accountable to the public by the vote.\n\nThis isn't entirely correct. Republic only means that it has elected officials at the top, whom do not have power but wield the power of the office, and their positions are not hereditary. This is in contrast to monarchy (may not be elected but the title is hereditary) and dictatorship (not elected and the title may not be hereditary). For example the Republic of Venice had its rulers elected, but not democratically. On the other end constitutional monarchies (like the UK, Denmark) are democratic, but not a republic as their heads of state aren't elected. And there are gray areas that don't really fit in there, like the Holy Roman Empire had its emperors elected (not democratically, by rulers of member states, but still), yet not a republic or democracy.\nDemocracy tells about the source of the power the offices wield (demos - the 'mob' or people). It is contrary to monarchy (bloodline) where the confusion comes from, theocracy (god), and dictatorship (power/might/military).\nI'm not trying to contradict you here, the anti-democratic shit in the US is tiring even outside, but we need to have the best possible argument to counter all the crazies.", ">\n\nYou're entirely right, but this sort of nuance is utterly wasted on the American right. Better to just say \"a republic is a form of democracy, you absolute numpty\" and move on", ">\n\nFrom Wikipedia regarding Florida’s “Government-in-the-Sunshine law”:\n\nFlorida's Government in the Sunshine Law, commonly called the Sunshine Law, passed in 1967. It requires that all meetings of any state, county, or municipal board or commission in Florida be open to the public, and declares that actions taken at closed meetings are not binding (Section 286.011, Florida Statutes). \"Meeting\" is construed broadly, and is not confined to \"formal\" assemblages at which a ritualistic vote takes place. The legislature intended to make open the entire decision-making process by the enactment of the Sunshine Law.", ">\n\nLock\nHim\nUp\nShould be the chant.", ">\n\nButter his mails?", ">\n\nButt is males????" ]

[ "Why that has all the hallmarks of a criminal conspiracy to commit human trafficking. Also, a pretty clear piece of evidence that the adviser knew this was a crime and took actions to conceal their identity.", ">\n\n100% !!!", ">\n\nBut remember, republicans are above the law, it says so in the Bible.", ">\n\nReagan 19:84", ">\n\n“A reading from the Book of Bush according to Trump.”", ">\n\nAnd I don't think that book is related to politics in any way", ">\n\nI’m afraid to ask now.", ">\n\nI just figured if TFG was gonna read anything, it would be a picture book, and... well, I'll let you figure out what the Book of Bush would look like to such a sleaze. ;)", ">\n\nI don't know why, but my brain immediately went to that being a pop up book and it made me laugh.", ">\n\nAlmost like they knew what they were doing was illegal and immoral.", ">\n\n\"Illegal and immoral\" is actually CPAC's 2024 platform.", ">\n\n\"We are all Domestic Terrorists\"\n-Their own fuckin scroll board at their own event.", ">\n\nWhy that isn’t a bigger deal is mind blowing for me. As a former conservative that was all red flags to me.", ">\n\nOoo. You had me at “Former conservative.”", ">\n\nYeah. Bush era. Then the goalposts moved hard. Center left now. It’s weird. But I’m ok with it.", ">\n\nI read Globalists instead of goalposts initially. Very different vibe.", ">\n\nLol big diff. It happens to me a lot.", ">\n\nImagine what's on Ron's laptop.", ">\n\nHunter Biden's penis pic, DUH!\nThey all keep it on their drives. They seem to often reference this particular nude.", ">\n\nIt’s in the folder besides Melanie’s modeling nudes…which is fine, because who cares…neither of them are president, or wish to be president.", ">\n\nThey start off with her pics and finish with his.", ">\n\n\nShe made a deliberate choice to risk the integrity of her communications.... simply so she could shield herself from public accountability and congressional oversight. \nA system in which the political elites are not held accountable for conduct that would land the average citizen in prison is a rotten system – and one that is far different from the type of republican government envisioned by the Founding Fathers.\n\n- Ron Desantis, OpEd on Buttery Males in the Conservative Review, 2015", ">\n\nThe scariest part of that is he claims a republican government was envisioned by the founding fathers.", ">\n\nIt'S a RePuBlIc NoT a DeMoCrAcY\n^(/s)", ">\n\nI fucking hate this anti-democratic trope. \nA Republic IS a democracy. but what makes it a republic and not a monarchy or other form of private owned sovereign state is the fact that the government is a publicly accountable organization, and is necessarily held accountable to the public by the vote.\nWhat they mean when they say that is literally “we should be able to decide who gets to participate in government, not you”. Its gross authoritarianism. A republic must be accountable to the people, which is accomplished with democracy, not by to twisting words with ugly sophistry to claw back representation from people that is theirs by right.", ">\n\n\nbut what makes it a republic and not a monarchy or other form of private owned sovereign state is the fact that the government is a publicly accountable organization, and is necessarily held accountable to the public by the vote.\n\nThis isn't entirely correct. Republic only means that it has elected officials at the top, whom do not have power but wield the power of the office, and their positions are not hereditary. This is in contrast to monarchy (may not be elected but the title is hereditary) and dictatorship (not elected and the title may not be hereditary). For example the Republic of Venice had its rulers elected, but not democratically. On the other end constitutional monarchies (like the UK, Denmark) are democratic, but not a republic as their heads of state aren't elected. And there are gray areas that don't really fit in there, like the Holy Roman Empire had its emperors elected (not democratically, by rulers of member states, but still), yet not a republic or democracy.\nDemocracy tells about the source of the power the offices wield (demos - the 'mob' or people). It is contrary to monarchy (bloodline) where the confusion comes from, theocracy (god), and dictatorship (power/might/military).\nI'm not trying to contradict you here, the anti-democratic shit in the US is tiring even outside, but we need to have the best possible argument to counter all the crazies.", ">\n\nYou're entirely right, but this sort of nuance is utterly wasted on the American right. Better to just say \"a republic is a form of democracy, you absolute numpty\" and move on", ">\n\nFrom Wikipedia regarding Florida’s “Government-in-the-Sunshine law”:\n\nFlorida's Government in the Sunshine Law, commonly called the Sunshine Law, passed in 1967. It requires that all meetings of any state, county, or municipal board or commission in Florida be open to the public, and declares that actions taken at closed meetings are not binding (Section 286.011, Florida Statutes). \"Meeting\" is construed broadly, and is not confined to \"formal\" assemblages at which a ritualistic vote takes place. The legislature intended to make open the entire decision-making process by the enactment of the Sunshine Law.", ">\n\nLock\nHim\nUp\nShould be the chant.", ">\n\nButter his mails?", ">\n\nButt is males????", ">\n\nLock him up. Isn't that what they chant about private emails?" ]

[ "Why that has all the hallmarks of a criminal conspiracy to commit human trafficking. Also, a pretty clear piece of evidence that the adviser knew this was a crime and took actions to conceal their identity.", ">\n\n100% !!!", ">\n\nBut remember, republicans are above the law, it says so in the Bible.", ">\n\nReagan 19:84", ">\n\n“A reading from the Book of Bush according to Trump.”", ">\n\nAnd I don't think that book is related to politics in any way", ">\n\nI’m afraid to ask now.", ">\n\nI just figured if TFG was gonna read anything, it would be a picture book, and... well, I'll let you figure out what the Book of Bush would look like to such a sleaze. ;)", ">\n\nI don't know why, but my brain immediately went to that being a pop up book and it made me laugh.", ">\n\nAlmost like they knew what they were doing was illegal and immoral.", ">\n\n\"Illegal and immoral\" is actually CPAC's 2024 platform.", ">\n\n\"We are all Domestic Terrorists\"\n-Their own fuckin scroll board at their own event.", ">\n\nWhy that isn’t a bigger deal is mind blowing for me. As a former conservative that was all red flags to me.", ">\n\nOoo. You had me at “Former conservative.”", ">\n\nYeah. Bush era. Then the goalposts moved hard. Center left now. It’s weird. But I’m ok with it.", ">\n\nI read Globalists instead of goalposts initially. Very different vibe.", ">\n\nLol big diff. It happens to me a lot.", ">\n\nImagine what's on Ron's laptop.", ">\n\nHunter Biden's penis pic, DUH!\nThey all keep it on their drives. They seem to often reference this particular nude.", ">\n\nIt’s in the folder besides Melanie’s modeling nudes…which is fine, because who cares…neither of them are president, or wish to be president.", ">\n\nThey start off with her pics and finish with his.", ">\n\n\nShe made a deliberate choice to risk the integrity of her communications.... simply so she could shield herself from public accountability and congressional oversight. \nA system in which the political elites are not held accountable for conduct that would land the average citizen in prison is a rotten system – and one that is far different from the type of republican government envisioned by the Founding Fathers.\n\n- Ron Desantis, OpEd on Buttery Males in the Conservative Review, 2015", ">\n\nThe scariest part of that is he claims a republican government was envisioned by the founding fathers.", ">\n\nIt'S a RePuBlIc NoT a DeMoCrAcY\n^(/s)", ">\n\nI fucking hate this anti-democratic trope. \nA Republic IS a democracy. but what makes it a republic and not a monarchy or other form of private owned sovereign state is the fact that the government is a publicly accountable organization, and is necessarily held accountable to the public by the vote.\nWhat they mean when they say that is literally “we should be able to decide who gets to participate in government, not you”. Its gross authoritarianism. A republic must be accountable to the people, which is accomplished with democracy, not by to twisting words with ugly sophistry to claw back representation from people that is theirs by right.", ">\n\n\nbut what makes it a republic and not a monarchy or other form of private owned sovereign state is the fact that the government is a publicly accountable organization, and is necessarily held accountable to the public by the vote.\n\nThis isn't entirely correct. Republic only means that it has elected officials at the top, whom do not have power but wield the power of the office, and their positions are not hereditary. This is in contrast to monarchy (may not be elected but the title is hereditary) and dictatorship (not elected and the title may not be hereditary). For example the Republic of Venice had its rulers elected, but not democratically. On the other end constitutional monarchies (like the UK, Denmark) are democratic, but not a republic as their heads of state aren't elected. And there are gray areas that don't really fit in there, like the Holy Roman Empire had its emperors elected (not democratically, by rulers of member states, but still), yet not a republic or democracy.\nDemocracy tells about the source of the power the offices wield (demos - the 'mob' or people). It is contrary to monarchy (bloodline) where the confusion comes from, theocracy (god), and dictatorship (power/might/military).\nI'm not trying to contradict you here, the anti-democratic shit in the US is tiring even outside, but we need to have the best possible argument to counter all the crazies.", ">\n\nYou're entirely right, but this sort of nuance is utterly wasted on the American right. Better to just say \"a republic is a form of democracy, you absolute numpty\" and move on", ">\n\nFrom Wikipedia regarding Florida’s “Government-in-the-Sunshine law”:\n\nFlorida's Government in the Sunshine Law, commonly called the Sunshine Law, passed in 1967. It requires that all meetings of any state, county, or municipal board or commission in Florida be open to the public, and declares that actions taken at closed meetings are not binding (Section 286.011, Florida Statutes). \"Meeting\" is construed broadly, and is not confined to \"formal\" assemblages at which a ritualistic vote takes place. The legislature intended to make open the entire decision-making process by the enactment of the Sunshine Law.", ">\n\nLock\nHim\nUp\nShould be the chant.", ">\n\nButter his mails?", ">\n\nButt is males????", ">\n\nLock him up. Isn't that what they chant about private emails?", ">\n\nIt's what they chant about Buttery Males. And Hunter Biden dick pics. Like frosted flakes......Republicans think they're great" ]

[ "Why that has all the hallmarks of a criminal conspiracy to commit human trafficking. Also, a pretty clear piece of evidence that the adviser knew this was a crime and took actions to conceal their identity.", ">\n\n100% !!!", ">\n\nBut remember, republicans are above the law, it says so in the Bible.", ">\n\nReagan 19:84", ">\n\n“A reading from the Book of Bush according to Trump.”", ">\n\nAnd I don't think that book is related to politics in any way", ">\n\nI’m afraid to ask now.", ">\n\nI just figured if TFG was gonna read anything, it would be a picture book, and... well, I'll let you figure out what the Book of Bush would look like to such a sleaze. ;)", ">\n\nI don't know why, but my brain immediately went to that being a pop up book and it made me laugh.", ">\n\nAlmost like they knew what they were doing was illegal and immoral.", ">\n\n\"Illegal and immoral\" is actually CPAC's 2024 platform.", ">\n\n\"We are all Domestic Terrorists\"\n-Their own fuckin scroll board at their own event.", ">\n\nWhy that isn’t a bigger deal is mind blowing for me. As a former conservative that was all red flags to me.", ">\n\nOoo. You had me at “Former conservative.”", ">\n\nYeah. Bush era. Then the goalposts moved hard. Center left now. It’s weird. But I’m ok with it.", ">\n\nI read Globalists instead of goalposts initially. Very different vibe.", ">\n\nLol big diff. It happens to me a lot.", ">\n\nImagine what's on Ron's laptop.", ">\n\nHunter Biden's penis pic, DUH!\nThey all keep it on their drives. They seem to often reference this particular nude.", ">\n\nIt’s in the folder besides Melanie’s modeling nudes…which is fine, because who cares…neither of them are president, or wish to be president.", ">\n\nThey start off with her pics and finish with his.", ">\n\n\nShe made a deliberate choice to risk the integrity of her communications.... simply so she could shield herself from public accountability and congressional oversight. \nA system in which the political elites are not held accountable for conduct that would land the average citizen in prison is a rotten system – and one that is far different from the type of republican government envisioned by the Founding Fathers.\n\n- Ron Desantis, OpEd on Buttery Males in the Conservative Review, 2015", ">\n\nThe scariest part of that is he claims a republican government was envisioned by the founding fathers.", ">\n\nIt'S a RePuBlIc NoT a DeMoCrAcY\n^(/s)", ">\n\nI fucking hate this anti-democratic trope. \nA Republic IS a democracy. but what makes it a republic and not a monarchy or other form of private owned sovereign state is the fact that the government is a publicly accountable organization, and is necessarily held accountable to the public by the vote.\nWhat they mean when they say that is literally “we should be able to decide who gets to participate in government, not you”. Its gross authoritarianism. A republic must be accountable to the people, which is accomplished with democracy, not by to twisting words with ugly sophistry to claw back representation from people that is theirs by right.", ">\n\n\nbut what makes it a republic and not a monarchy or other form of private owned sovereign state is the fact that the government is a publicly accountable organization, and is necessarily held accountable to the public by the vote.\n\nThis isn't entirely correct. Republic only means that it has elected officials at the top, whom do not have power but wield the power of the office, and their positions are not hereditary. This is in contrast to monarchy (may not be elected but the title is hereditary) and dictatorship (not elected and the title may not be hereditary). For example the Republic of Venice had its rulers elected, but not democratically. On the other end constitutional monarchies (like the UK, Denmark) are democratic, but not a republic as their heads of state aren't elected. And there are gray areas that don't really fit in there, like the Holy Roman Empire had its emperors elected (not democratically, by rulers of member states, but still), yet not a republic or democracy.\nDemocracy tells about the source of the power the offices wield (demos - the 'mob' or people). It is contrary to monarchy (bloodline) where the confusion comes from, theocracy (god), and dictatorship (power/might/military).\nI'm not trying to contradict you here, the anti-democratic shit in the US is tiring even outside, but we need to have the best possible argument to counter all the crazies.", ">\n\nYou're entirely right, but this sort of nuance is utterly wasted on the American right. Better to just say \"a republic is a form of democracy, you absolute numpty\" and move on", ">\n\nFrom Wikipedia regarding Florida’s “Government-in-the-Sunshine law”:\n\nFlorida's Government in the Sunshine Law, commonly called the Sunshine Law, passed in 1967. It requires that all meetings of any state, county, or municipal board or commission in Florida be open to the public, and declares that actions taken at closed meetings are not binding (Section 286.011, Florida Statutes). \"Meeting\" is construed broadly, and is not confined to \"formal\" assemblages at which a ritualistic vote takes place. The legislature intended to make open the entire decision-making process by the enactment of the Sunshine Law.", ">\n\nLock\nHim\nUp\nShould be the chant.", ">\n\nButter his mails?", ">\n\nButt is males????", ">\n\nLock him up. Isn't that what they chant about private emails?", ">\n\nIt's what they chant about Buttery Males. And Hunter Biden dick pics. Like frosted flakes......Republicans think they're great", ">\n\nIf he wasn't republican he would have to face consequences." ]

[ "Why that has all the hallmarks of a criminal conspiracy to commit human trafficking. Also, a pretty clear piece of evidence that the adviser knew this was a crime and took actions to conceal their identity.", ">\n\n100% !!!", ">\n\nBut remember, republicans are above the law, it says so in the Bible.", ">\n\nReagan 19:84", ">\n\n“A reading from the Book of Bush according to Trump.”", ">\n\nAnd I don't think that book is related to politics in any way", ">\n\nI’m afraid to ask now.", ">\n\nI just figured if TFG was gonna read anything, it would be a picture book, and... well, I'll let you figure out what the Book of Bush would look like to such a sleaze. ;)", ">\n\nI don't know why, but my brain immediately went to that being a pop up book and it made me laugh.", ">\n\nAlmost like they knew what they were doing was illegal and immoral.", ">\n\n\"Illegal and immoral\" is actually CPAC's 2024 platform.", ">\n\n\"We are all Domestic Terrorists\"\n-Their own fuckin scroll board at their own event.", ">\n\nWhy that isn’t a bigger deal is mind blowing for me. As a former conservative that was all red flags to me.", ">\n\nOoo. You had me at “Former conservative.”", ">\n\nYeah. Bush era. Then the goalposts moved hard. Center left now. It’s weird. But I’m ok with it.", ">\n\nI read Globalists instead of goalposts initially. Very different vibe.", ">\n\nLol big diff. It happens to me a lot.", ">\n\nImagine what's on Ron's laptop.", ">\n\nHunter Biden's penis pic, DUH!\nThey all keep it on their drives. They seem to often reference this particular nude.", ">\n\nIt’s in the folder besides Melanie’s modeling nudes…which is fine, because who cares…neither of them are president, or wish to be president.", ">\n\nThey start off with her pics and finish with his.", ">\n\n\nShe made a deliberate choice to risk the integrity of her communications.... simply so she could shield herself from public accountability and congressional oversight. \nA system in which the political elites are not held accountable for conduct that would land the average citizen in prison is a rotten system – and one that is far different from the type of republican government envisioned by the Founding Fathers.\n\n- Ron Desantis, OpEd on Buttery Males in the Conservative Review, 2015", ">\n\nThe scariest part of that is he claims a republican government was envisioned by the founding fathers.", ">\n\nIt'S a RePuBlIc NoT a DeMoCrAcY\n^(/s)", ">\n\nI fucking hate this anti-democratic trope. \nA Republic IS a democracy. but what makes it a republic and not a monarchy or other form of private owned sovereign state is the fact that the government is a publicly accountable organization, and is necessarily held accountable to the public by the vote.\nWhat they mean when they say that is literally “we should be able to decide who gets to participate in government, not you”. Its gross authoritarianism. A republic must be accountable to the people, which is accomplished with democracy, not by to twisting words with ugly sophistry to claw back representation from people that is theirs by right.", ">\n\n\nbut what makes it a republic and not a monarchy or other form of private owned sovereign state is the fact that the government is a publicly accountable organization, and is necessarily held accountable to the public by the vote.\n\nThis isn't entirely correct. Republic only means that it has elected officials at the top, whom do not have power but wield the power of the office, and their positions are not hereditary. This is in contrast to monarchy (may not be elected but the title is hereditary) and dictatorship (not elected and the title may not be hereditary). For example the Republic of Venice had its rulers elected, but not democratically. On the other end constitutional monarchies (like the UK, Denmark) are democratic, but not a republic as their heads of state aren't elected. And there are gray areas that don't really fit in there, like the Holy Roman Empire had its emperors elected (not democratically, by rulers of member states, but still), yet not a republic or democracy.\nDemocracy tells about the source of the power the offices wield (demos - the 'mob' or people). It is contrary to monarchy (bloodline) where the confusion comes from, theocracy (god), and dictatorship (power/might/military).\nI'm not trying to contradict you here, the anti-democratic shit in the US is tiring even outside, but we need to have the best possible argument to counter all the crazies.", ">\n\nYou're entirely right, but this sort of nuance is utterly wasted on the American right. Better to just say \"a republic is a form of democracy, you absolute numpty\" and move on", ">\n\nFrom Wikipedia regarding Florida’s “Government-in-the-Sunshine law”:\n\nFlorida's Government in the Sunshine Law, commonly called the Sunshine Law, passed in 1967. It requires that all meetings of any state, county, or municipal board or commission in Florida be open to the public, and declares that actions taken at closed meetings are not binding (Section 286.011, Florida Statutes). \"Meeting\" is construed broadly, and is not confined to \"formal\" assemblages at which a ritualistic vote takes place. The legislature intended to make open the entire decision-making process by the enactment of the Sunshine Law.", ">\n\nLock\nHim\nUp\nShould be the chant.", ">\n\nButter his mails?", ">\n\nButt is males????", ">\n\nLock him up. Isn't that what they chant about private emails?", ">\n\nIt's what they chant about Buttery Males. And Hunter Biden dick pics. Like frosted flakes......Republicans think they're great", ">\n\nIf he wasn't republican he would have to face consequences.", ">\n\nSooo if they used an alias to obscure identity does that count as admission of guilt since they knowingly trying to obfuscate who was making the order?" ]

[ "Why that has all the hallmarks of a criminal conspiracy to commit human trafficking. Also, a pretty clear piece of evidence that the adviser knew this was a crime and took actions to conceal their identity.", ">\n\n100% !!!", ">\n\nBut remember, republicans are above the law, it says so in the Bible.", ">\n\nReagan 19:84", ">\n\n“A reading from the Book of Bush according to Trump.”", ">\n\nAnd I don't think that book is related to politics in any way", ">\n\nI’m afraid to ask now.", ">\n\nI just figured if TFG was gonna read anything, it would be a picture book, and... well, I'll let you figure out what the Book of Bush would look like to such a sleaze. ;)", ">\n\nI don't know why, but my brain immediately went to that being a pop up book and it made me laugh.", ">\n\nAlmost like they knew what they were doing was illegal and immoral.", ">\n\n\"Illegal and immoral\" is actually CPAC's 2024 platform.", ">\n\n\"We are all Domestic Terrorists\"\n-Their own fuckin scroll board at their own event.", ">\n\nWhy that isn’t a bigger deal is mind blowing for me. As a former conservative that was all red flags to me.", ">\n\nOoo. You had me at “Former conservative.”", ">\n\nYeah. Bush era. Then the goalposts moved hard. Center left now. It’s weird. But I’m ok with it.", ">\n\nI read Globalists instead of goalposts initially. Very different vibe.", ">\n\nLol big diff. It happens to me a lot.", ">\n\nImagine what's on Ron's laptop.", ">\n\nHunter Biden's penis pic, DUH!\nThey all keep it on their drives. They seem to often reference this particular nude.", ">\n\nIt’s in the folder besides Melanie’s modeling nudes…which is fine, because who cares…neither of them are president, or wish to be president.", ">\n\nThey start off with her pics and finish with his.", ">\n\n\nShe made a deliberate choice to risk the integrity of her communications.... simply so she could shield herself from public accountability and congressional oversight. \nA system in which the political elites are not held accountable for conduct that would land the average citizen in prison is a rotten system – and one that is far different from the type of republican government envisioned by the Founding Fathers.\n\n- Ron Desantis, OpEd on Buttery Males in the Conservative Review, 2015", ">\n\nThe scariest part of that is he claims a republican government was envisioned by the founding fathers.", ">\n\nIt'S a RePuBlIc NoT a DeMoCrAcY\n^(/s)", ">\n\nI fucking hate this anti-democratic trope. \nA Republic IS a democracy. but what makes it a republic and not a monarchy or other form of private owned sovereign state is the fact that the government is a publicly accountable organization, and is necessarily held accountable to the public by the vote.\nWhat they mean when they say that is literally “we should be able to decide who gets to participate in government, not you”. Its gross authoritarianism. A republic must be accountable to the people, which is accomplished with democracy, not by to twisting words with ugly sophistry to claw back representation from people that is theirs by right.", ">\n\n\nbut what makes it a republic and not a monarchy or other form of private owned sovereign state is the fact that the government is a publicly accountable organization, and is necessarily held accountable to the public by the vote.\n\nThis isn't entirely correct. Republic only means that it has elected officials at the top, whom do not have power but wield the power of the office, and their positions are not hereditary. This is in contrast to monarchy (may not be elected but the title is hereditary) and dictatorship (not elected and the title may not be hereditary). For example the Republic of Venice had its rulers elected, but not democratically. On the other end constitutional monarchies (like the UK, Denmark) are democratic, but not a republic as their heads of state aren't elected. And there are gray areas that don't really fit in there, like the Holy Roman Empire had its emperors elected (not democratically, by rulers of member states, but still), yet not a republic or democracy.\nDemocracy tells about the source of the power the offices wield (demos - the 'mob' or people). It is contrary to monarchy (bloodline) where the confusion comes from, theocracy (god), and dictatorship (power/might/military).\nI'm not trying to contradict you here, the anti-democratic shit in the US is tiring even outside, but we need to have the best possible argument to counter all the crazies.", ">\n\nYou're entirely right, but this sort of nuance is utterly wasted on the American right. Better to just say \"a republic is a form of democracy, you absolute numpty\" and move on", ">\n\nFrom Wikipedia regarding Florida’s “Government-in-the-Sunshine law”:\n\nFlorida's Government in the Sunshine Law, commonly called the Sunshine Law, passed in 1967. It requires that all meetings of any state, county, or municipal board or commission in Florida be open to the public, and declares that actions taken at closed meetings are not binding (Section 286.011, Florida Statutes). \"Meeting\" is construed broadly, and is not confined to \"formal\" assemblages at which a ritualistic vote takes place. The legislature intended to make open the entire decision-making process by the enactment of the Sunshine Law.", ">\n\nLock\nHim\nUp\nShould be the chant.", ">\n\nButter his mails?", ">\n\nButt is males????", ">\n\nLock him up. Isn't that what they chant about private emails?", ">\n\nIt's what they chant about Buttery Males. And Hunter Biden dick pics. Like frosted flakes......Republicans think they're great", ">\n\nIf he wasn't republican he would have to face consequences.", ">\n\nSooo if they used an alias to obscure identity does that count as admission of guilt since they knowingly trying to obfuscate who was making the order?", ">\n\nIf DeSantis thinks this is a righteous cause and he's on the right side of things like he claims - why did his staff conceal their involvement at every chance?\nLock. Him. Up." ]

[ "Why that has all the hallmarks of a criminal conspiracy to commit human trafficking. Also, a pretty clear piece of evidence that the adviser knew this was a crime and took actions to conceal their identity.", ">\n\n100% !!!", ">\n\nBut remember, republicans are above the law, it says so in the Bible.", ">\n\nReagan 19:84", ">\n\n“A reading from the Book of Bush according to Trump.”", ">\n\nAnd I don't think that book is related to politics in any way", ">\n\nI’m afraid to ask now.", ">\n\nI just figured if TFG was gonna read anything, it would be a picture book, and... well, I'll let you figure out what the Book of Bush would look like to such a sleaze. ;)", ">\n\nI don't know why, but my brain immediately went to that being a pop up book and it made me laugh.", ">\n\nAlmost like they knew what they were doing was illegal and immoral.", ">\n\n\"Illegal and immoral\" is actually CPAC's 2024 platform.", ">\n\n\"We are all Domestic Terrorists\"\n-Their own fuckin scroll board at their own event.", ">\n\nWhy that isn’t a bigger deal is mind blowing for me. As a former conservative that was all red flags to me.", ">\n\nOoo. You had me at “Former conservative.”", ">\n\nYeah. Bush era. Then the goalposts moved hard. Center left now. It’s weird. But I’m ok with it.", ">\n\nI read Globalists instead of goalposts initially. Very different vibe.", ">\n\nLol big diff. It happens to me a lot.", ">\n\nImagine what's on Ron's laptop.", ">\n\nHunter Biden's penis pic, DUH!\nThey all keep it on their drives. They seem to often reference this particular nude.", ">\n\nIt’s in the folder besides Melanie’s modeling nudes…which is fine, because who cares…neither of them are president, or wish to be president.", ">\n\nThey start off with her pics and finish with his.", ">\n\n\nShe made a deliberate choice to risk the integrity of her communications.... simply so she could shield herself from public accountability and congressional oversight. \nA system in which the political elites are not held accountable for conduct that would land the average citizen in prison is a rotten system – and one that is far different from the type of republican government envisioned by the Founding Fathers.\n\n- Ron Desantis, OpEd on Buttery Males in the Conservative Review, 2015", ">\n\nThe scariest part of that is he claims a republican government was envisioned by the founding fathers.", ">\n\nIt'S a RePuBlIc NoT a DeMoCrAcY\n^(/s)", ">\n\nI fucking hate this anti-democratic trope. \nA Republic IS a democracy. but what makes it a republic and not a monarchy or other form of private owned sovereign state is the fact that the government is a publicly accountable organization, and is necessarily held accountable to the public by the vote.\nWhat they mean when they say that is literally “we should be able to decide who gets to participate in government, not you”. Its gross authoritarianism. A republic must be accountable to the people, which is accomplished with democracy, not by to twisting words with ugly sophistry to claw back representation from people that is theirs by right.", ">\n\n\nbut what makes it a republic and not a monarchy or other form of private owned sovereign state is the fact that the government is a publicly accountable organization, and is necessarily held accountable to the public by the vote.\n\nThis isn't entirely correct. Republic only means that it has elected officials at the top, whom do not have power but wield the power of the office, and their positions are not hereditary. This is in contrast to monarchy (may not be elected but the title is hereditary) and dictatorship (not elected and the title may not be hereditary). For example the Republic of Venice had its rulers elected, but not democratically. On the other end constitutional monarchies (like the UK, Denmark) are democratic, but not a republic as their heads of state aren't elected. And there are gray areas that don't really fit in there, like the Holy Roman Empire had its emperors elected (not democratically, by rulers of member states, but still), yet not a republic or democracy.\nDemocracy tells about the source of the power the offices wield (demos - the 'mob' or people). It is contrary to monarchy (bloodline) where the confusion comes from, theocracy (god), and dictatorship (power/might/military).\nI'm not trying to contradict you here, the anti-democratic shit in the US is tiring even outside, but we need to have the best possible argument to counter all the crazies.", ">\n\nYou're entirely right, but this sort of nuance is utterly wasted on the American right. Better to just say \"a republic is a form of democracy, you absolute numpty\" and move on", ">\n\nFrom Wikipedia regarding Florida’s “Government-in-the-Sunshine law”:\n\nFlorida's Government in the Sunshine Law, commonly called the Sunshine Law, passed in 1967. It requires that all meetings of any state, county, or municipal board or commission in Florida be open to the public, and declares that actions taken at closed meetings are not binding (Section 286.011, Florida Statutes). \"Meeting\" is construed broadly, and is not confined to \"formal\" assemblages at which a ritualistic vote takes place. The legislature intended to make open the entire decision-making process by the enactment of the Sunshine Law.", ">\n\nLock\nHim\nUp\nShould be the chant.", ">\n\nButter his mails?", ">\n\nButt is males????", ">\n\nLock him up. Isn't that what they chant about private emails?", ">\n\nIt's what they chant about Buttery Males. And Hunter Biden dick pics. Like frosted flakes......Republicans think they're great", ">\n\nIf he wasn't republican he would have to face consequences.", ">\n\nSooo if they used an alias to obscure identity does that count as admission of guilt since they knowingly trying to obfuscate who was making the order?", ">\n\nIf DeSantis thinks this is a righteous cause and he's on the right side of things like he claims - why did his staff conceal their involvement at every chance?\nLock. Him. Up.", ">\n\nLock him up." ]

[ "Why that has all the hallmarks of a criminal conspiracy to commit human trafficking. Also, a pretty clear piece of evidence that the adviser knew this was a crime and took actions to conceal their identity.", ">\n\n100% !!!", ">\n\nBut remember, republicans are above the law, it says so in the Bible.", ">\n\nReagan 19:84", ">\n\n“A reading from the Book of Bush according to Trump.”", ">\n\nAnd I don't think that book is related to politics in any way", ">\n\nI’m afraid to ask now.", ">\n\nI just figured if TFG was gonna read anything, it would be a picture book, and... well, I'll let you figure out what the Book of Bush would look like to such a sleaze. ;)", ">\n\nI don't know why, but my brain immediately went to that being a pop up book and it made me laugh.", ">\n\nAlmost like they knew what they were doing was illegal and immoral.", ">\n\n\"Illegal and immoral\" is actually CPAC's 2024 platform.", ">\n\n\"We are all Domestic Terrorists\"\n-Their own fuckin scroll board at their own event.", ">\n\nWhy that isn’t a bigger deal is mind blowing for me. As a former conservative that was all red flags to me.", ">\n\nOoo. You had me at “Former conservative.”", ">\n\nYeah. Bush era. Then the goalposts moved hard. Center left now. It’s weird. But I’m ok with it.", ">\n\nI read Globalists instead of goalposts initially. Very different vibe.", ">\n\nLol big diff. It happens to me a lot.", ">\n\nImagine what's on Ron's laptop.", ">\n\nHunter Biden's penis pic, DUH!\nThey all keep it on their drives. They seem to often reference this particular nude.", ">\n\nIt’s in the folder besides Melanie’s modeling nudes…which is fine, because who cares…neither of them are president, or wish to be president.", ">\n\nThey start off with her pics and finish with his.", ">\n\n\nShe made a deliberate choice to risk the integrity of her communications.... simply so she could shield herself from public accountability and congressional oversight. \nA system in which the political elites are not held accountable for conduct that would land the average citizen in prison is a rotten system – and one that is far different from the type of republican government envisioned by the Founding Fathers.\n\n- Ron Desantis, OpEd on Buttery Males in the Conservative Review, 2015", ">\n\nThe scariest part of that is he claims a republican government was envisioned by the founding fathers.", ">\n\nIt'S a RePuBlIc NoT a DeMoCrAcY\n^(/s)", ">\n\nI fucking hate this anti-democratic trope. \nA Republic IS a democracy. but what makes it a republic and not a monarchy or other form of private owned sovereign state is the fact that the government is a publicly accountable organization, and is necessarily held accountable to the public by the vote.\nWhat they mean when they say that is literally “we should be able to decide who gets to participate in government, not you”. Its gross authoritarianism. A republic must be accountable to the people, which is accomplished with democracy, not by to twisting words with ugly sophistry to claw back representation from people that is theirs by right.", ">\n\n\nbut what makes it a republic and not a monarchy or other form of private owned sovereign state is the fact that the government is a publicly accountable organization, and is necessarily held accountable to the public by the vote.\n\nThis isn't entirely correct. Republic only means that it has elected officials at the top, whom do not have power but wield the power of the office, and their positions are not hereditary. This is in contrast to monarchy (may not be elected but the title is hereditary) and dictatorship (not elected and the title may not be hereditary). For example the Republic of Venice had its rulers elected, but not democratically. On the other end constitutional monarchies (like the UK, Denmark) are democratic, but not a republic as their heads of state aren't elected. And there are gray areas that don't really fit in there, like the Holy Roman Empire had its emperors elected (not democratically, by rulers of member states, but still), yet not a republic or democracy.\nDemocracy tells about the source of the power the offices wield (demos - the 'mob' or people). It is contrary to monarchy (bloodline) where the confusion comes from, theocracy (god), and dictatorship (power/might/military).\nI'm not trying to contradict you here, the anti-democratic shit in the US is tiring even outside, but we need to have the best possible argument to counter all the crazies.", ">\n\nYou're entirely right, but this sort of nuance is utterly wasted on the American right. Better to just say \"a republic is a form of democracy, you absolute numpty\" and move on", ">\n\nFrom Wikipedia regarding Florida’s “Government-in-the-Sunshine law”:\n\nFlorida's Government in the Sunshine Law, commonly called the Sunshine Law, passed in 1967. It requires that all meetings of any state, county, or municipal board or commission in Florida be open to the public, and declares that actions taken at closed meetings are not binding (Section 286.011, Florida Statutes). \"Meeting\" is construed broadly, and is not confined to \"formal\" assemblages at which a ritualistic vote takes place. The legislature intended to make open the entire decision-making process by the enactment of the Sunshine Law.", ">\n\nLock\nHim\nUp\nShould be the chant.", ">\n\nButter his mails?", ">\n\nButt is males????", ">\n\nLock him up. Isn't that what they chant about private emails?", ">\n\nIt's what they chant about Buttery Males. And Hunter Biden dick pics. Like frosted flakes......Republicans think they're great", ">\n\nIf he wasn't republican he would have to face consequences.", ">\n\nSooo if they used an alias to obscure identity does that count as admission of guilt since they knowingly trying to obfuscate who was making the order?", ">\n\nIf DeSantis thinks this is a righteous cause and he's on the right side of things like he claims - why did his staff conceal their involvement at every chance?\nLock. Him. Up.", ">\n\nLock him up.", ">\n\nSo flying migrants across the country was a cry for help, because unfortunately Ron Desantis doesn't have the ability to put his thoughts into words.\nI'm still unsure what he's trying to say but I expect the best reply to him would be to fly him to Moscow and leave him there, naked on the runway." ]

[ "Why that has all the hallmarks of a criminal conspiracy to commit human trafficking. Also, a pretty clear piece of evidence that the adviser knew this was a crime and took actions to conceal their identity.", ">\n\n100% !!!", ">\n\nBut remember, republicans are above the law, it says so in the Bible.", ">\n\nReagan 19:84", ">\n\n“A reading from the Book of Bush according to Trump.”", ">\n\nAnd I don't think that book is related to politics in any way", ">\n\nI’m afraid to ask now.", ">\n\nI just figured if TFG was gonna read anything, it would be a picture book, and... well, I'll let you figure out what the Book of Bush would look like to such a sleaze. ;)", ">\n\nI don't know why, but my brain immediately went to that being a pop up book and it made me laugh.", ">\n\nAlmost like they knew what they were doing was illegal and immoral.", ">\n\n\"Illegal and immoral\" is actually CPAC's 2024 platform.", ">\n\n\"We are all Domestic Terrorists\"\n-Their own fuckin scroll board at their own event.", ">\n\nWhy that isn’t a bigger deal is mind blowing for me. As a former conservative that was all red flags to me.", ">\n\nOoo. You had me at “Former conservative.”", ">\n\nYeah. Bush era. Then the goalposts moved hard. Center left now. It’s weird. But I’m ok with it.", ">\n\nI read Globalists instead of goalposts initially. Very different vibe.", ">\n\nLol big diff. It happens to me a lot.", ">\n\nImagine what's on Ron's laptop.", ">\n\nHunter Biden's penis pic, DUH!\nThey all keep it on their drives. They seem to often reference this particular nude.", ">\n\nIt’s in the folder besides Melanie’s modeling nudes…which is fine, because who cares…neither of them are president, or wish to be president.", ">\n\nThey start off with her pics and finish with his.", ">\n\n\nShe made a deliberate choice to risk the integrity of her communications.... simply so she could shield herself from public accountability and congressional oversight. \nA system in which the political elites are not held accountable for conduct that would land the average citizen in prison is a rotten system – and one that is far different from the type of republican government envisioned by the Founding Fathers.\n\n- Ron Desantis, OpEd on Buttery Males in the Conservative Review, 2015", ">\n\nThe scariest part of that is he claims a republican government was envisioned by the founding fathers.", ">\n\nIt'S a RePuBlIc NoT a DeMoCrAcY\n^(/s)", ">\n\nI fucking hate this anti-democratic trope. \nA Republic IS a democracy. but what makes it a republic and not a monarchy or other form of private owned sovereign state is the fact that the government is a publicly accountable organization, and is necessarily held accountable to the public by the vote.\nWhat they mean when they say that is literally “we should be able to decide who gets to participate in government, not you”. Its gross authoritarianism. A republic must be accountable to the people, which is accomplished with democracy, not by to twisting words with ugly sophistry to claw back representation from people that is theirs by right.", ">\n\n\nbut what makes it a republic and not a monarchy or other form of private owned sovereign state is the fact that the government is a publicly accountable organization, and is necessarily held accountable to the public by the vote.\n\nThis isn't entirely correct. Republic only means that it has elected officials at the top, whom do not have power but wield the power of the office, and their positions are not hereditary. This is in contrast to monarchy (may not be elected but the title is hereditary) and dictatorship (not elected and the title may not be hereditary). For example the Republic of Venice had its rulers elected, but not democratically. On the other end constitutional monarchies (like the UK, Denmark) are democratic, but not a republic as their heads of state aren't elected. And there are gray areas that don't really fit in there, like the Holy Roman Empire had its emperors elected (not democratically, by rulers of member states, but still), yet not a republic or democracy.\nDemocracy tells about the source of the power the offices wield (demos - the 'mob' or people). It is contrary to monarchy (bloodline) where the confusion comes from, theocracy (god), and dictatorship (power/might/military).\nI'm not trying to contradict you here, the anti-democratic shit in the US is tiring even outside, but we need to have the best possible argument to counter all the crazies.", ">\n\nYou're entirely right, but this sort of nuance is utterly wasted on the American right. Better to just say \"a republic is a form of democracy, you absolute numpty\" and move on", ">\n\nFrom Wikipedia regarding Florida’s “Government-in-the-Sunshine law”:\n\nFlorida's Government in the Sunshine Law, commonly called the Sunshine Law, passed in 1967. It requires that all meetings of any state, county, or municipal board or commission in Florida be open to the public, and declares that actions taken at closed meetings are not binding (Section 286.011, Florida Statutes). \"Meeting\" is construed broadly, and is not confined to \"formal\" assemblages at which a ritualistic vote takes place. The legislature intended to make open the entire decision-making process by the enactment of the Sunshine Law.", ">\n\nLock\nHim\nUp\nShould be the chant.", ">\n\nButter his mails?", ">\n\nButt is males????", ">\n\nLock him up. Isn't that what they chant about private emails?", ">\n\nIt's what they chant about Buttery Males. And Hunter Biden dick pics. Like frosted flakes......Republicans think they're great", ">\n\nIf he wasn't republican he would have to face consequences.", ">\n\nSooo if they used an alias to obscure identity does that count as admission of guilt since they knowingly trying to obfuscate who was making the order?", ">\n\nIf DeSantis thinks this is a righteous cause and he's on the right side of things like he claims - why did his staff conceal their involvement at every chance?\nLock. Him. Up.", ">\n\nLock him up.", ">\n\nSo flying migrants across the country was a cry for help, because unfortunately Ron Desantis doesn't have the ability to put his thoughts into words.\nI'm still unsure what he's trying to say but I expect the best reply to him would be to fly him to Moscow and leave him there, naked on the runway.", ">\n\nEww, at least give him non-designer clothing." ]

[ "Why that has all the hallmarks of a criminal conspiracy to commit human trafficking. Also, a pretty clear piece of evidence that the adviser knew this was a crime and took actions to conceal their identity.", ">\n\n100% !!!", ">\n\nBut remember, republicans are above the law, it says so in the Bible.", ">\n\nReagan 19:84", ">\n\n“A reading from the Book of Bush according to Trump.”", ">\n\nAnd I don't think that book is related to politics in any way", ">\n\nI’m afraid to ask now.", ">\n\nI just figured if TFG was gonna read anything, it would be a picture book, and... well, I'll let you figure out what the Book of Bush would look like to such a sleaze. ;)", ">\n\nI don't know why, but my brain immediately went to that being a pop up book and it made me laugh.", ">\n\nAlmost like they knew what they were doing was illegal and immoral.", ">\n\n\"Illegal and immoral\" is actually CPAC's 2024 platform.", ">\n\n\"We are all Domestic Terrorists\"\n-Their own fuckin scroll board at their own event.", ">\n\nWhy that isn’t a bigger deal is mind blowing for me. As a former conservative that was all red flags to me.", ">\n\nOoo. You had me at “Former conservative.”", ">\n\nYeah. Bush era. Then the goalposts moved hard. Center left now. It’s weird. But I’m ok with it.", ">\n\nI read Globalists instead of goalposts initially. Very different vibe.", ">\n\nLol big diff. It happens to me a lot.", ">\n\nImagine what's on Ron's laptop.", ">\n\nHunter Biden's penis pic, DUH!\nThey all keep it on their drives. They seem to often reference this particular nude.", ">\n\nIt’s in the folder besides Melanie’s modeling nudes…which is fine, because who cares…neither of them are president, or wish to be president.", ">\n\nThey start off with her pics and finish with his.", ">\n\n\nShe made a deliberate choice to risk the integrity of her communications.... simply so she could shield herself from public accountability and congressional oversight. \nA system in which the political elites are not held accountable for conduct that would land the average citizen in prison is a rotten system – and one that is far different from the type of republican government envisioned by the Founding Fathers.\n\n- Ron Desantis, OpEd on Buttery Males in the Conservative Review, 2015", ">\n\nThe scariest part of that is he claims a republican government was envisioned by the founding fathers.", ">\n\nIt'S a RePuBlIc NoT a DeMoCrAcY\n^(/s)", ">\n\nI fucking hate this anti-democratic trope. \nA Republic IS a democracy. but what makes it a republic and not a monarchy or other form of private owned sovereign state is the fact that the government is a publicly accountable organization, and is necessarily held accountable to the public by the vote.\nWhat they mean when they say that is literally “we should be able to decide who gets to participate in government, not you”. Its gross authoritarianism. A republic must be accountable to the people, which is accomplished with democracy, not by to twisting words with ugly sophistry to claw back representation from people that is theirs by right.", ">\n\n\nbut what makes it a republic and not a monarchy or other form of private owned sovereign state is the fact that the government is a publicly accountable organization, and is necessarily held accountable to the public by the vote.\n\nThis isn't entirely correct. Republic only means that it has elected officials at the top, whom do not have power but wield the power of the office, and their positions are not hereditary. This is in contrast to monarchy (may not be elected but the title is hereditary) and dictatorship (not elected and the title may not be hereditary). For example the Republic of Venice had its rulers elected, but not democratically. On the other end constitutional monarchies (like the UK, Denmark) are democratic, but not a republic as their heads of state aren't elected. And there are gray areas that don't really fit in there, like the Holy Roman Empire had its emperors elected (not democratically, by rulers of member states, but still), yet not a republic or democracy.\nDemocracy tells about the source of the power the offices wield (demos - the 'mob' or people). It is contrary to monarchy (bloodline) where the confusion comes from, theocracy (god), and dictatorship (power/might/military).\nI'm not trying to contradict you here, the anti-democratic shit in the US is tiring even outside, but we need to have the best possible argument to counter all the crazies.", ">\n\nYou're entirely right, but this sort of nuance is utterly wasted on the American right. Better to just say \"a republic is a form of democracy, you absolute numpty\" and move on", ">\n\nFrom Wikipedia regarding Florida’s “Government-in-the-Sunshine law”:\n\nFlorida's Government in the Sunshine Law, commonly called the Sunshine Law, passed in 1967. It requires that all meetings of any state, county, or municipal board or commission in Florida be open to the public, and declares that actions taken at closed meetings are not binding (Section 286.011, Florida Statutes). \"Meeting\" is construed broadly, and is not confined to \"formal\" assemblages at which a ritualistic vote takes place. The legislature intended to make open the entire decision-making process by the enactment of the Sunshine Law.", ">\n\nLock\nHim\nUp\nShould be the chant.", ">\n\nButter his mails?", ">\n\nButt is males????", ">\n\nLock him up. Isn't that what they chant about private emails?", ">\n\nIt's what they chant about Buttery Males. And Hunter Biden dick pics. Like frosted flakes......Republicans think they're great", ">\n\nIf he wasn't republican he would have to face consequences.", ">\n\nSooo if they used an alias to obscure identity does that count as admission of guilt since they knowingly trying to obfuscate who was making the order?", ">\n\nIf DeSantis thinks this is a righteous cause and he's on the right side of things like he claims - why did his staff conceal their involvement at every chance?\nLock. Him. Up.", ">\n\nLock him up.", ">\n\nSo flying migrants across the country was a cry for help, because unfortunately Ron Desantis doesn't have the ability to put his thoughts into words.\nI'm still unsure what he's trying to say but I expect the best reply to him would be to fly him to Moscow and leave him there, naked on the runway.", ">\n\nEww, at least give him non-designer clothing.", ">\n\nFlorida public records laws are extraordinarily permissive, like, when I worked for the local sewer and water department as an intern in college, they warned me that I should expect every email I ever send to be public record.\nThey know this, which is why they had to use private accounts to coordinate this obviously immoral bullshit." ]

[ "Why that has all the hallmarks of a criminal conspiracy to commit human trafficking. Also, a pretty clear piece of evidence that the adviser knew this was a crime and took actions to conceal their identity.", ">\n\n100% !!!", ">\n\nBut remember, republicans are above the law, it says so in the Bible.", ">\n\nReagan 19:84", ">\n\n“A reading from the Book of Bush according to Trump.”", ">\n\nAnd I don't think that book is related to politics in any way", ">\n\nI’m afraid to ask now.", ">\n\nI just figured if TFG was gonna read anything, it would be a picture book, and... well, I'll let you figure out what the Book of Bush would look like to such a sleaze. ;)", ">\n\nI don't know why, but my brain immediately went to that being a pop up book and it made me laugh.", ">\n\nAlmost like they knew what they were doing was illegal and immoral.", ">\n\n\"Illegal and immoral\" is actually CPAC's 2024 platform.", ">\n\n\"We are all Domestic Terrorists\"\n-Their own fuckin scroll board at their own event.", ">\n\nWhy that isn’t a bigger deal is mind blowing for me. As a former conservative that was all red flags to me.", ">\n\nOoo. You had me at “Former conservative.”", ">\n\nYeah. Bush era. Then the goalposts moved hard. Center left now. It’s weird. But I’m ok with it.", ">\n\nI read Globalists instead of goalposts initially. Very different vibe.", ">\n\nLol big diff. It happens to me a lot.", ">\n\nImagine what's on Ron's laptop.", ">\n\nHunter Biden's penis pic, DUH!\nThey all keep it on their drives. They seem to often reference this particular nude.", ">\n\nIt’s in the folder besides Melanie’s modeling nudes…which is fine, because who cares…neither of them are president, or wish to be president.", ">\n\nThey start off with her pics and finish with his.", ">\n\n\nShe made a deliberate choice to risk the integrity of her communications.... simply so she could shield herself from public accountability and congressional oversight. \nA system in which the political elites are not held accountable for conduct that would land the average citizen in prison is a rotten system – and one that is far different from the type of republican government envisioned by the Founding Fathers.\n\n- Ron Desantis, OpEd on Buttery Males in the Conservative Review, 2015", ">\n\nThe scariest part of that is he claims a republican government was envisioned by the founding fathers.", ">\n\nIt'S a RePuBlIc NoT a DeMoCrAcY\n^(/s)", ">\n\nI fucking hate this anti-democratic trope. \nA Republic IS a democracy. but what makes it a republic and not a monarchy or other form of private owned sovereign state is the fact that the government is a publicly accountable organization, and is necessarily held accountable to the public by the vote.\nWhat they mean when they say that is literally “we should be able to decide who gets to participate in government, not you”. Its gross authoritarianism. A republic must be accountable to the people, which is accomplished with democracy, not by to twisting words with ugly sophistry to claw back representation from people that is theirs by right.", ">\n\n\nbut what makes it a republic and not a monarchy or other form of private owned sovereign state is the fact that the government is a publicly accountable organization, and is necessarily held accountable to the public by the vote.\n\nThis isn't entirely correct. Republic only means that it has elected officials at the top, whom do not have power but wield the power of the office, and their positions are not hereditary. This is in contrast to monarchy (may not be elected but the title is hereditary) and dictatorship (not elected and the title may not be hereditary). For example the Republic of Venice had its rulers elected, but not democratically. On the other end constitutional monarchies (like the UK, Denmark) are democratic, but not a republic as their heads of state aren't elected. And there are gray areas that don't really fit in there, like the Holy Roman Empire had its emperors elected (not democratically, by rulers of member states, but still), yet not a republic or democracy.\nDemocracy tells about the source of the power the offices wield (demos - the 'mob' or people). It is contrary to monarchy (bloodline) where the confusion comes from, theocracy (god), and dictatorship (power/might/military).\nI'm not trying to contradict you here, the anti-democratic shit in the US is tiring even outside, but we need to have the best possible argument to counter all the crazies.", ">\n\nYou're entirely right, but this sort of nuance is utterly wasted on the American right. Better to just say \"a republic is a form of democracy, you absolute numpty\" and move on", ">\n\nFrom Wikipedia regarding Florida’s “Government-in-the-Sunshine law”:\n\nFlorida's Government in the Sunshine Law, commonly called the Sunshine Law, passed in 1967. It requires that all meetings of any state, county, or municipal board or commission in Florida be open to the public, and declares that actions taken at closed meetings are not binding (Section 286.011, Florida Statutes). \"Meeting\" is construed broadly, and is not confined to \"formal\" assemblages at which a ritualistic vote takes place. The legislature intended to make open the entire decision-making process by the enactment of the Sunshine Law.", ">\n\nLock\nHim\nUp\nShould be the chant.", ">\n\nButter his mails?", ">\n\nButt is males????", ">\n\nLock him up. Isn't that what they chant about private emails?", ">\n\nIt's what they chant about Buttery Males. And Hunter Biden dick pics. Like frosted flakes......Republicans think they're great", ">\n\nIf he wasn't republican he would have to face consequences.", ">\n\nSooo if they used an alias to obscure identity does that count as admission of guilt since they knowingly trying to obfuscate who was making the order?", ">\n\nIf DeSantis thinks this is a righteous cause and he's on the right side of things like he claims - why did his staff conceal their involvement at every chance?\nLock. Him. Up.", ">\n\nLock him up.", ">\n\nSo flying migrants across the country was a cry for help, because unfortunately Ron Desantis doesn't have the ability to put his thoughts into words.\nI'm still unsure what he's trying to say but I expect the best reply to him would be to fly him to Moscow and leave him there, naked on the runway.", ">\n\nEww, at least give him non-designer clothing.", ">\n\nFlorida public records laws are extraordinarily permissive, like, when I worked for the local sewer and water department as an intern in college, they warned me that I should expect every email I ever send to be public record.\nThey know this, which is why they had to use private accounts to coordinate this obviously immoral bullshit.", ">\n\nYou mean, illegal, not immoral, right?" ]

[ "Why that has all the hallmarks of a criminal conspiracy to commit human trafficking. Also, a pretty clear piece of evidence that the adviser knew this was a crime and took actions to conceal their identity.", ">\n\n100% !!!", ">\n\nBut remember, republicans are above the law, it says so in the Bible.", ">\n\nReagan 19:84", ">\n\n“A reading from the Book of Bush according to Trump.”", ">\n\nAnd I don't think that book is related to politics in any way", ">\n\nI’m afraid to ask now.", ">\n\nI just figured if TFG was gonna read anything, it would be a picture book, and... well, I'll let you figure out what the Book of Bush would look like to such a sleaze. ;)", ">\n\nI don't know why, but my brain immediately went to that being a pop up book and it made me laugh.", ">\n\nAlmost like they knew what they were doing was illegal and immoral.", ">\n\n\"Illegal and immoral\" is actually CPAC's 2024 platform.", ">\n\n\"We are all Domestic Terrorists\"\n-Their own fuckin scroll board at their own event.", ">\n\nWhy that isn’t a bigger deal is mind blowing for me. As a former conservative that was all red flags to me.", ">\n\nOoo. You had me at “Former conservative.”", ">\n\nYeah. Bush era. Then the goalposts moved hard. Center left now. It’s weird. But I’m ok with it.", ">\n\nI read Globalists instead of goalposts initially. Very different vibe.", ">\n\nLol big diff. It happens to me a lot.", ">\n\nImagine what's on Ron's laptop.", ">\n\nHunter Biden's penis pic, DUH!\nThey all keep it on their drives. They seem to often reference this particular nude.", ">\n\nIt’s in the folder besides Melanie’s modeling nudes…which is fine, because who cares…neither of them are president, or wish to be president.", ">\n\nThey start off with her pics and finish with his.", ">\n\n\nShe made a deliberate choice to risk the integrity of her communications.... simply so she could shield herself from public accountability and congressional oversight. \nA system in which the political elites are not held accountable for conduct that would land the average citizen in prison is a rotten system – and one that is far different from the type of republican government envisioned by the Founding Fathers.\n\n- Ron Desantis, OpEd on Buttery Males in the Conservative Review, 2015", ">\n\nThe scariest part of that is he claims a republican government was envisioned by the founding fathers.", ">\n\nIt'S a RePuBlIc NoT a DeMoCrAcY\n^(/s)", ">\n\nI fucking hate this anti-democratic trope. \nA Republic IS a democracy. but what makes it a republic and not a monarchy or other form of private owned sovereign state is the fact that the government is a publicly accountable organization, and is necessarily held accountable to the public by the vote.\nWhat they mean when they say that is literally “we should be able to decide who gets to participate in government, not you”. Its gross authoritarianism. A republic must be accountable to the people, which is accomplished with democracy, not by to twisting words with ugly sophistry to claw back representation from people that is theirs by right.", ">\n\n\nbut what makes it a republic and not a monarchy or other form of private owned sovereign state is the fact that the government is a publicly accountable organization, and is necessarily held accountable to the public by the vote.\n\nThis isn't entirely correct. Republic only means that it has elected officials at the top, whom do not have power but wield the power of the office, and their positions are not hereditary. This is in contrast to monarchy (may not be elected but the title is hereditary) and dictatorship (not elected and the title may not be hereditary). For example the Republic of Venice had its rulers elected, but not democratically. On the other end constitutional monarchies (like the UK, Denmark) are democratic, but not a republic as their heads of state aren't elected. And there are gray areas that don't really fit in there, like the Holy Roman Empire had its emperors elected (not democratically, by rulers of member states, but still), yet not a republic or democracy.\nDemocracy tells about the source of the power the offices wield (demos - the 'mob' or people). It is contrary to monarchy (bloodline) where the confusion comes from, theocracy (god), and dictatorship (power/might/military).\nI'm not trying to contradict you here, the anti-democratic shit in the US is tiring even outside, but we need to have the best possible argument to counter all the crazies.", ">\n\nYou're entirely right, but this sort of nuance is utterly wasted on the American right. Better to just say \"a republic is a form of democracy, you absolute numpty\" and move on", ">\n\nFrom Wikipedia regarding Florida’s “Government-in-the-Sunshine law”:\n\nFlorida's Government in the Sunshine Law, commonly called the Sunshine Law, passed in 1967. It requires that all meetings of any state, county, or municipal board or commission in Florida be open to the public, and declares that actions taken at closed meetings are not binding (Section 286.011, Florida Statutes). \"Meeting\" is construed broadly, and is not confined to \"formal\" assemblages at which a ritualistic vote takes place. The legislature intended to make open the entire decision-making process by the enactment of the Sunshine Law.", ">\n\nLock\nHim\nUp\nShould be the chant.", ">\n\nButter his mails?", ">\n\nButt is males????", ">\n\nLock him up. Isn't that what they chant about private emails?", ">\n\nIt's what they chant about Buttery Males. And Hunter Biden dick pics. Like frosted flakes......Republicans think they're great", ">\n\nIf he wasn't republican he would have to face consequences.", ">\n\nSooo if they used an alias to obscure identity does that count as admission of guilt since they knowingly trying to obfuscate who was making the order?", ">\n\nIf DeSantis thinks this is a righteous cause and he's on the right side of things like he claims - why did his staff conceal their involvement at every chance?\nLock. Him. Up.", ">\n\nLock him up.", ">\n\nSo flying migrants across the country was a cry for help, because unfortunately Ron Desantis doesn't have the ability to put his thoughts into words.\nI'm still unsure what he's trying to say but I expect the best reply to him would be to fly him to Moscow and leave him there, naked on the runway.", ">\n\nEww, at least give him non-designer clothing.", ">\n\nFlorida public records laws are extraordinarily permissive, like, when I worked for the local sewer and water department as an intern in college, they warned me that I should expect every email I ever send to be public record.\nThey know this, which is why they had to use private accounts to coordinate this obviously immoral bullshit.", ">\n\nYou mean, illegal, not immoral, right?", ">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I can't attest to the legality of it, but it's immoral as fuck. And bypassing the public records laws is likely illegal as well." ]

[ "Why that has all the hallmarks of a criminal conspiracy to commit human trafficking. Also, a pretty clear piece of evidence that the adviser knew this was a crime and took actions to conceal their identity.", ">\n\n100% !!!", ">\n\nBut remember, republicans are above the law, it says so in the Bible.", ">\n\nReagan 19:84", ">\n\n“A reading from the Book of Bush according to Trump.”", ">\n\nAnd I don't think that book is related to politics in any way", ">\n\nI’m afraid to ask now.", ">\n\nI just figured if TFG was gonna read anything, it would be a picture book, and... well, I'll let you figure out what the Book of Bush would look like to such a sleaze. ;)", ">\n\nI don't know why, but my brain immediately went to that being a pop up book and it made me laugh.", ">\n\nAlmost like they knew what they were doing was illegal and immoral.", ">\n\n\"Illegal and immoral\" is actually CPAC's 2024 platform.", ">\n\n\"We are all Domestic Terrorists\"\n-Their own fuckin scroll board at their own event.", ">\n\nWhy that isn’t a bigger deal is mind blowing for me. As a former conservative that was all red flags to me.", ">\n\nOoo. You had me at “Former conservative.”", ">\n\nYeah. Bush era. Then the goalposts moved hard. Center left now. It’s weird. But I’m ok with it.", ">\n\nI read Globalists instead of goalposts initially. Very different vibe.", ">\n\nLol big diff. It happens to me a lot.", ">\n\nImagine what's on Ron's laptop.", ">\n\nHunter Biden's penis pic, DUH!\nThey all keep it on their drives. They seem to often reference this particular nude.", ">\n\nIt’s in the folder besides Melanie’s modeling nudes…which is fine, because who cares…neither of them are president, or wish to be president.", ">\n\nThey start off with her pics and finish with his.", ">\n\n\nShe made a deliberate choice to risk the integrity of her communications.... simply so she could shield herself from public accountability and congressional oversight. \nA system in which the political elites are not held accountable for conduct that would land the average citizen in prison is a rotten system – and one that is far different from the type of republican government envisioned by the Founding Fathers.\n\n- Ron Desantis, OpEd on Buttery Males in the Conservative Review, 2015", ">\n\nThe scariest part of that is he claims a republican government was envisioned by the founding fathers.", ">\n\nIt'S a RePuBlIc NoT a DeMoCrAcY\n^(/s)", ">\n\nI fucking hate this anti-democratic trope. \nA Republic IS a democracy. but what makes it a republic and not a monarchy or other form of private owned sovereign state is the fact that the government is a publicly accountable organization, and is necessarily held accountable to the public by the vote.\nWhat they mean when they say that is literally “we should be able to decide who gets to participate in government, not you”. Its gross authoritarianism. A republic must be accountable to the people, which is accomplished with democracy, not by to twisting words with ugly sophistry to claw back representation from people that is theirs by right.", ">\n\n\nbut what makes it a republic and not a monarchy or other form of private owned sovereign state is the fact that the government is a publicly accountable organization, and is necessarily held accountable to the public by the vote.\n\nThis isn't entirely correct. Republic only means that it has elected officials at the top, whom do not have power but wield the power of the office, and their positions are not hereditary. This is in contrast to monarchy (may not be elected but the title is hereditary) and dictatorship (not elected and the title may not be hereditary). For example the Republic of Venice had its rulers elected, but not democratically. On the other end constitutional monarchies (like the UK, Denmark) are democratic, but not a republic as their heads of state aren't elected. And there are gray areas that don't really fit in there, like the Holy Roman Empire had its emperors elected (not democratically, by rulers of member states, but still), yet not a republic or democracy.\nDemocracy tells about the source of the power the offices wield (demos - the 'mob' or people). It is contrary to monarchy (bloodline) where the confusion comes from, theocracy (god), and dictatorship (power/might/military).\nI'm not trying to contradict you here, the anti-democratic shit in the US is tiring even outside, but we need to have the best possible argument to counter all the crazies.", ">\n\nYou're entirely right, but this sort of nuance is utterly wasted on the American right. Better to just say \"a republic is a form of democracy, you absolute numpty\" and move on", ">\n\nFrom Wikipedia regarding Florida’s “Government-in-the-Sunshine law”:\n\nFlorida's Government in the Sunshine Law, commonly called the Sunshine Law, passed in 1967. It requires that all meetings of any state, county, or municipal board or commission in Florida be open to the public, and declares that actions taken at closed meetings are not binding (Section 286.011, Florida Statutes). \"Meeting\" is construed broadly, and is not confined to \"formal\" assemblages at which a ritualistic vote takes place. The legislature intended to make open the entire decision-making process by the enactment of the Sunshine Law.", ">\n\nLock\nHim\nUp\nShould be the chant.", ">\n\nButter his mails?", ">\n\nButt is males????", ">\n\nLock him up. Isn't that what they chant about private emails?", ">\n\nIt's what they chant about Buttery Males. And Hunter Biden dick pics. Like frosted flakes......Republicans think they're great", ">\n\nIf he wasn't republican he would have to face consequences.", ">\n\nSooo if they used an alias to obscure identity does that count as admission of guilt since they knowingly trying to obfuscate who was making the order?", ">\n\nIf DeSantis thinks this is a righteous cause and he's on the right side of things like he claims - why did his staff conceal their involvement at every chance?\nLock. Him. Up.", ">\n\nLock him up.", ">\n\nSo flying migrants across the country was a cry for help, because unfortunately Ron Desantis doesn't have the ability to put his thoughts into words.\nI'm still unsure what he's trying to say but I expect the best reply to him would be to fly him to Moscow and leave him there, naked on the runway.", ">\n\nEww, at least give him non-designer clothing.", ">\n\nFlorida public records laws are extraordinarily permissive, like, when I worked for the local sewer and water department as an intern in college, they warned me that I should expect every email I ever send to be public record.\nThey know this, which is why they had to use private accounts to coordinate this obviously immoral bullshit.", ">\n\nYou mean, illegal, not immoral, right?", ">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I can't attest to the legality of it, but it's immoral as fuck. And bypassing the public records laws is likely illegal as well.", ">\n\nA) They misled and was secretive because they new it was wrong.\nB) They feel justified because they think their cause is righteous... But still keep it secret.\nIf A. They're cowards.\nIf B. They're self-righteous cowards" ]

[ "Why that has all the hallmarks of a criminal conspiracy to commit human trafficking. Also, a pretty clear piece of evidence that the adviser knew this was a crime and took actions to conceal their identity.", ">\n\n100% !!!", ">\n\nBut remember, republicans are above the law, it says so in the Bible.", ">\n\nReagan 19:84", ">\n\n“A reading from the Book of Bush according to Trump.”", ">\n\nAnd I don't think that book is related to politics in any way", ">\n\nI’m afraid to ask now.", ">\n\nI just figured if TFG was gonna read anything, it would be a picture book, and... well, I'll let you figure out what the Book of Bush would look like to such a sleaze. ;)", ">\n\nI don't know why, but my brain immediately went to that being a pop up book and it made me laugh.", ">\n\nAlmost like they knew what they were doing was illegal and immoral.", ">\n\n\"Illegal and immoral\" is actually CPAC's 2024 platform.", ">\n\n\"We are all Domestic Terrorists\"\n-Their own fuckin scroll board at their own event.", ">\n\nWhy that isn’t a bigger deal is mind blowing for me. As a former conservative that was all red flags to me.", ">\n\nOoo. You had me at “Former conservative.”", ">\n\nYeah. Bush era. Then the goalposts moved hard. Center left now. It’s weird. But I’m ok with it.", ">\n\nI read Globalists instead of goalposts initially. Very different vibe.", ">\n\nLol big diff. It happens to me a lot.", ">\n\nImagine what's on Ron's laptop.", ">\n\nHunter Biden's penis pic, DUH!\nThey all keep it on their drives. They seem to often reference this particular nude.", ">\n\nIt’s in the folder besides Melanie’s modeling nudes…which is fine, because who cares…neither of them are president, or wish to be president.", ">\n\nThey start off with her pics and finish with his.", ">\n\n\nShe made a deliberate choice to risk the integrity of her communications.... simply so she could shield herself from public accountability and congressional oversight. \nA system in which the political elites are not held accountable for conduct that would land the average citizen in prison is a rotten system – and one that is far different from the type of republican government envisioned by the Founding Fathers.\n\n- Ron Desantis, OpEd on Buttery Males in the Conservative Review, 2015", ">\n\nThe scariest part of that is he claims a republican government was envisioned by the founding fathers.", ">\n\nIt'S a RePuBlIc NoT a DeMoCrAcY\n^(/s)", ">\n\nI fucking hate this anti-democratic trope. \nA Republic IS a democracy. but what makes it a republic and not a monarchy or other form of private owned sovereign state is the fact that the government is a publicly accountable organization, and is necessarily held accountable to the public by the vote.\nWhat they mean when they say that is literally “we should be able to decide who gets to participate in government, not you”. Its gross authoritarianism. A republic must be accountable to the people, which is accomplished with democracy, not by to twisting words with ugly sophistry to claw back representation from people that is theirs by right.", ">\n\n\nbut what makes it a republic and not a monarchy or other form of private owned sovereign state is the fact that the government is a publicly accountable organization, and is necessarily held accountable to the public by the vote.\n\nThis isn't entirely correct. Republic only means that it has elected officials at the top, whom do not have power but wield the power of the office, and their positions are not hereditary. This is in contrast to monarchy (may not be elected but the title is hereditary) and dictatorship (not elected and the title may not be hereditary). For example the Republic of Venice had its rulers elected, but not democratically. On the other end constitutional monarchies (like the UK, Denmark) are democratic, but not a republic as their heads of state aren't elected. And there are gray areas that don't really fit in there, like the Holy Roman Empire had its emperors elected (not democratically, by rulers of member states, but still), yet not a republic or democracy.\nDemocracy tells about the source of the power the offices wield (demos - the 'mob' or people). It is contrary to monarchy (bloodline) where the confusion comes from, theocracy (god), and dictatorship (power/might/military).\nI'm not trying to contradict you here, the anti-democratic shit in the US is tiring even outside, but we need to have the best possible argument to counter all the crazies.", ">\n\nYou're entirely right, but this sort of nuance is utterly wasted on the American right. Better to just say \"a republic is a form of democracy, you absolute numpty\" and move on", ">\n\nFrom Wikipedia regarding Florida’s “Government-in-the-Sunshine law”:\n\nFlorida's Government in the Sunshine Law, commonly called the Sunshine Law, passed in 1967. It requires that all meetings of any state, county, or municipal board or commission in Florida be open to the public, and declares that actions taken at closed meetings are not binding (Section 286.011, Florida Statutes). \"Meeting\" is construed broadly, and is not confined to \"formal\" assemblages at which a ritualistic vote takes place. The legislature intended to make open the entire decision-making process by the enactment of the Sunshine Law.", ">\n\nLock\nHim\nUp\nShould be the chant.", ">\n\nButter his mails?", ">\n\nButt is males????", ">\n\nLock him up. Isn't that what they chant about private emails?", ">\n\nIt's what they chant about Buttery Males. And Hunter Biden dick pics. Like frosted flakes......Republicans think they're great", ">\n\nIf he wasn't republican he would have to face consequences.", ">\n\nSooo if they used an alias to obscure identity does that count as admission of guilt since they knowingly trying to obfuscate who was making the order?", ">\n\nIf DeSantis thinks this is a righteous cause and he's on the right side of things like he claims - why did his staff conceal their involvement at every chance?\nLock. Him. Up.", ">\n\nLock him up.", ">\n\nSo flying migrants across the country was a cry for help, because unfortunately Ron Desantis doesn't have the ability to put his thoughts into words.\nI'm still unsure what he's trying to say but I expect the best reply to him would be to fly him to Moscow and leave him there, naked on the runway.", ">\n\nEww, at least give him non-designer clothing.", ">\n\nFlorida public records laws are extraordinarily permissive, like, when I worked for the local sewer and water department as an intern in college, they warned me that I should expect every email I ever send to be public record.\nThey know this, which is why they had to use private accounts to coordinate this obviously immoral bullshit.", ">\n\nYou mean, illegal, not immoral, right?", ">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I can't attest to the legality of it, but it's immoral as fuck. And bypassing the public records laws is likely illegal as well.", ">\n\nA) They misled and was secretive because they new it was wrong.\nB) They feel justified because they think their cause is righteous... But still keep it secret.\nIf A. They're cowards.\nIf B. They're self-righteous cowards", ">\n\nArrest him immediately." ]

[ "Why that has all the hallmarks of a criminal conspiracy to commit human trafficking. Also, a pretty clear piece of evidence that the adviser knew this was a crime and took actions to conceal their identity.", ">\n\n100% !!!", ">\n\nBut remember, republicans are above the law, it says so in the Bible.", ">\n\nReagan 19:84", ">\n\n“A reading from the Book of Bush according to Trump.”", ">\n\nAnd I don't think that book is related to politics in any way", ">\n\nI’m afraid to ask now.", ">\n\nI just figured if TFG was gonna read anything, it would be a picture book, and... well, I'll let you figure out what the Book of Bush would look like to such a sleaze. ;)", ">\n\nI don't know why, but my brain immediately went to that being a pop up book and it made me laugh.", ">\n\nAlmost like they knew what they were doing was illegal and immoral.", ">\n\n\"Illegal and immoral\" is actually CPAC's 2024 platform.", ">\n\n\"We are all Domestic Terrorists\"\n-Their own fuckin scroll board at their own event.", ">\n\nWhy that isn’t a bigger deal is mind blowing for me. As a former conservative that was all red flags to me.", ">\n\nOoo. You had me at “Former conservative.”", ">\n\nYeah. Bush era. Then the goalposts moved hard. Center left now. It’s weird. But I’m ok with it.", ">\n\nI read Globalists instead of goalposts initially. Very different vibe.", ">\n\nLol big diff. It happens to me a lot.", ">\n\nImagine what's on Ron's laptop.", ">\n\nHunter Biden's penis pic, DUH!\nThey all keep it on their drives. They seem to often reference this particular nude.", ">\n\nIt’s in the folder besides Melanie’s modeling nudes…which is fine, because who cares…neither of them are president, or wish to be president.", ">\n\nThey start off with her pics and finish with his.", ">\n\n\nShe made a deliberate choice to risk the integrity of her communications.... simply so she could shield herself from public accountability and congressional oversight. \nA system in which the political elites are not held accountable for conduct that would land the average citizen in prison is a rotten system – and one that is far different from the type of republican government envisioned by the Founding Fathers.\n\n- Ron Desantis, OpEd on Buttery Males in the Conservative Review, 2015", ">\n\nThe scariest part of that is he claims a republican government was envisioned by the founding fathers.", ">\n\nIt'S a RePuBlIc NoT a DeMoCrAcY\n^(/s)", ">\n\nI fucking hate this anti-democratic trope. \nA Republic IS a democracy. but what makes it a republic and not a monarchy or other form of private owned sovereign state is the fact that the government is a publicly accountable organization, and is necessarily held accountable to the public by the vote.\nWhat they mean when they say that is literally “we should be able to decide who gets to participate in government, not you”. Its gross authoritarianism. A republic must be accountable to the people, which is accomplished with democracy, not by to twisting words with ugly sophistry to claw back representation from people that is theirs by right.", ">\n\n\nbut what makes it a republic and not a monarchy or other form of private owned sovereign state is the fact that the government is a publicly accountable organization, and is necessarily held accountable to the public by the vote.\n\nThis isn't entirely correct. Republic only means that it has elected officials at the top, whom do not have power but wield the power of the office, and their positions are not hereditary. This is in contrast to monarchy (may not be elected but the title is hereditary) and dictatorship (not elected and the title may not be hereditary). For example the Republic of Venice had its rulers elected, but not democratically. On the other end constitutional monarchies (like the UK, Denmark) are democratic, but not a republic as their heads of state aren't elected. And there are gray areas that don't really fit in there, like the Holy Roman Empire had its emperors elected (not democratically, by rulers of member states, but still), yet not a republic or democracy.\nDemocracy tells about the source of the power the offices wield (demos - the 'mob' or people). It is contrary to monarchy (bloodline) where the confusion comes from, theocracy (god), and dictatorship (power/might/military).\nI'm not trying to contradict you here, the anti-democratic shit in the US is tiring even outside, but we need to have the best possible argument to counter all the crazies.", ">\n\nYou're entirely right, but this sort of nuance is utterly wasted on the American right. Better to just say \"a republic is a form of democracy, you absolute numpty\" and move on", ">\n\nFrom Wikipedia regarding Florida’s “Government-in-the-Sunshine law”:\n\nFlorida's Government in the Sunshine Law, commonly called the Sunshine Law, passed in 1967. It requires that all meetings of any state, county, or municipal board or commission in Florida be open to the public, and declares that actions taken at closed meetings are not binding (Section 286.011, Florida Statutes). \"Meeting\" is construed broadly, and is not confined to \"formal\" assemblages at which a ritualistic vote takes place. The legislature intended to make open the entire decision-making process by the enactment of the Sunshine Law.", ">\n\nLock\nHim\nUp\nShould be the chant.", ">\n\nButter his mails?", ">\n\nButt is males????", ">\n\nLock him up. Isn't that what they chant about private emails?", ">\n\nIt's what they chant about Buttery Males. And Hunter Biden dick pics. Like frosted flakes......Republicans think they're great", ">\n\nIf he wasn't republican he would have to face consequences.", ">\n\nSooo if they used an alias to obscure identity does that count as admission of guilt since they knowingly trying to obfuscate who was making the order?", ">\n\nIf DeSantis thinks this is a righteous cause and he's on the right side of things like he claims - why did his staff conceal their involvement at every chance?\nLock. Him. Up.", ">\n\nLock him up.", ">\n\nSo flying migrants across the country was a cry for help, because unfortunately Ron Desantis doesn't have the ability to put his thoughts into words.\nI'm still unsure what he's trying to say but I expect the best reply to him would be to fly him to Moscow and leave him there, naked on the runway.", ">\n\nEww, at least give him non-designer clothing.", ">\n\nFlorida public records laws are extraordinarily permissive, like, when I worked for the local sewer and water department as an intern in college, they warned me that I should expect every email I ever send to be public record.\nThey know this, which is why they had to use private accounts to coordinate this obviously immoral bullshit.", ">\n\nYou mean, illegal, not immoral, right?", ">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I can't attest to the legality of it, but it's immoral as fuck. And bypassing the public records laws is likely illegal as well.", ">\n\nA) They misled and was secretive because they new it was wrong.\nB) They feel justified because they think their cause is righteous... But still keep it secret.\nIf A. They're cowards.\nIf B. They're self-righteous cowards", ">\n\nArrest him immediately.", ">\n\nWhy all of the cloak and dagger when the guv was bragging days later?" ]

[ "Why that has all the hallmarks of a criminal conspiracy to commit human trafficking. Also, a pretty clear piece of evidence that the adviser knew this was a crime and took actions to conceal their identity.", ">\n\n100% !!!", ">\n\nBut remember, republicans are above the law, it says so in the Bible.", ">\n\nReagan 19:84", ">\n\n“A reading from the Book of Bush according to Trump.”", ">\n\nAnd I don't think that book is related to politics in any way", ">\n\nI’m afraid to ask now.", ">\n\nI just figured if TFG was gonna read anything, it would be a picture book, and... well, I'll let you figure out what the Book of Bush would look like to such a sleaze. ;)", ">\n\nI don't know why, but my brain immediately went to that being a pop up book and it made me laugh.", ">\n\nAlmost like they knew what they were doing was illegal and immoral.", ">\n\n\"Illegal and immoral\" is actually CPAC's 2024 platform.", ">\n\n\"We are all Domestic Terrorists\"\n-Their own fuckin scroll board at their own event.", ">\n\nWhy that isn’t a bigger deal is mind blowing for me. As a former conservative that was all red flags to me.", ">\n\nOoo. You had me at “Former conservative.”", ">\n\nYeah. Bush era. Then the goalposts moved hard. Center left now. It’s weird. But I’m ok with it.", ">\n\nI read Globalists instead of goalposts initially. Very different vibe.", ">\n\nLol big diff. It happens to me a lot.", ">\n\nImagine what's on Ron's laptop.", ">\n\nHunter Biden's penis pic, DUH!\nThey all keep it on their drives. They seem to often reference this particular nude.", ">\n\nIt’s in the folder besides Melanie’s modeling nudes…which is fine, because who cares…neither of them are president, or wish to be president.", ">\n\nThey start off with her pics and finish with his.", ">\n\n\nShe made a deliberate choice to risk the integrity of her communications.... simply so she could shield herself from public accountability and congressional oversight. \nA system in which the political elites are not held accountable for conduct that would land the average citizen in prison is a rotten system – and one that is far different from the type of republican government envisioned by the Founding Fathers.\n\n- Ron Desantis, OpEd on Buttery Males in the Conservative Review, 2015", ">\n\nThe scariest part of that is he claims a republican government was envisioned by the founding fathers.", ">\n\nIt'S a RePuBlIc NoT a DeMoCrAcY\n^(/s)", ">\n\nI fucking hate this anti-democratic trope. \nA Republic IS a democracy. but what makes it a republic and not a monarchy or other form of private owned sovereign state is the fact that the government is a publicly accountable organization, and is necessarily held accountable to the public by the vote.\nWhat they mean when they say that is literally “we should be able to decide who gets to participate in government, not you”. Its gross authoritarianism. A republic must be accountable to the people, which is accomplished with democracy, not by to twisting words with ugly sophistry to claw back representation from people that is theirs by right.", ">\n\n\nbut what makes it a republic and not a monarchy or other form of private owned sovereign state is the fact that the government is a publicly accountable organization, and is necessarily held accountable to the public by the vote.\n\nThis isn't entirely correct. Republic only means that it has elected officials at the top, whom do not have power but wield the power of the office, and their positions are not hereditary. This is in contrast to monarchy (may not be elected but the title is hereditary) and dictatorship (not elected and the title may not be hereditary). For example the Republic of Venice had its rulers elected, but not democratically. On the other end constitutional monarchies (like the UK, Denmark) are democratic, but not a republic as their heads of state aren't elected. And there are gray areas that don't really fit in there, like the Holy Roman Empire had its emperors elected (not democratically, by rulers of member states, but still), yet not a republic or democracy.\nDemocracy tells about the source of the power the offices wield (demos - the 'mob' or people). It is contrary to monarchy (bloodline) where the confusion comes from, theocracy (god), and dictatorship (power/might/military).\nI'm not trying to contradict you here, the anti-democratic shit in the US is tiring even outside, but we need to have the best possible argument to counter all the crazies.", ">\n\nYou're entirely right, but this sort of nuance is utterly wasted on the American right. Better to just say \"a republic is a form of democracy, you absolute numpty\" and move on", ">\n\nFrom Wikipedia regarding Florida’s “Government-in-the-Sunshine law”:\n\nFlorida's Government in the Sunshine Law, commonly called the Sunshine Law, passed in 1967. It requires that all meetings of any state, county, or municipal board or commission in Florida be open to the public, and declares that actions taken at closed meetings are not binding (Section 286.011, Florida Statutes). \"Meeting\" is construed broadly, and is not confined to \"formal\" assemblages at which a ritualistic vote takes place. The legislature intended to make open the entire decision-making process by the enactment of the Sunshine Law.", ">\n\nLock\nHim\nUp\nShould be the chant.", ">\n\nButter his mails?", ">\n\nButt is males????", ">\n\nLock him up. Isn't that what they chant about private emails?", ">\n\nIt's what they chant about Buttery Males. And Hunter Biden dick pics. Like frosted flakes......Republicans think they're great", ">\n\nIf he wasn't republican he would have to face consequences.", ">\n\nSooo if they used an alias to obscure identity does that count as admission of guilt since they knowingly trying to obfuscate who was making the order?", ">\n\nIf DeSantis thinks this is a righteous cause and he's on the right side of things like he claims - why did his staff conceal their involvement at every chance?\nLock. Him. Up.", ">\n\nLock him up.", ">\n\nSo flying migrants across the country was a cry for help, because unfortunately Ron Desantis doesn't have the ability to put his thoughts into words.\nI'm still unsure what he's trying to say but I expect the best reply to him would be to fly him to Moscow and leave him there, naked on the runway.", ">\n\nEww, at least give him non-designer clothing.", ">\n\nFlorida public records laws are extraordinarily permissive, like, when I worked for the local sewer and water department as an intern in college, they warned me that I should expect every email I ever send to be public record.\nThey know this, which is why they had to use private accounts to coordinate this obviously immoral bullshit.", ">\n\nYou mean, illegal, not immoral, right?", ">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I can't attest to the legality of it, but it's immoral as fuck. And bypassing the public records laws is likely illegal as well.", ">\n\nA) They misled and was secretive because they new it was wrong.\nB) They feel justified because they think their cause is righteous... But still keep it secret.\nIf A. They're cowards.\nIf B. They're self-righteous cowards", ">\n\nArrest him immediately.", ">\n\nWhy all of the cloak and dagger when the guv was bragging days later?", ">\n\nHe probably didn’t want to tip off the media and other groups." ]

[ "Why that has all the hallmarks of a criminal conspiracy to commit human trafficking. Also, a pretty clear piece of evidence that the adviser knew this was a crime and took actions to conceal their identity.", ">\n\n100% !!!", ">\n\nBut remember, republicans are above the law, it says so in the Bible.", ">\n\nReagan 19:84", ">\n\n“A reading from the Book of Bush according to Trump.”", ">\n\nAnd I don't think that book is related to politics in any way", ">\n\nI’m afraid to ask now.", ">\n\nI just figured if TFG was gonna read anything, it would be a picture book, and... well, I'll let you figure out what the Book of Bush would look like to such a sleaze. ;)", ">\n\nI don't know why, but my brain immediately went to that being a pop up book and it made me laugh.", ">\n\nAlmost like they knew what they were doing was illegal and immoral.", ">\n\n\"Illegal and immoral\" is actually CPAC's 2024 platform.", ">\n\n\"We are all Domestic Terrorists\"\n-Their own fuckin scroll board at their own event.", ">\n\nWhy that isn’t a bigger deal is mind blowing for me. As a former conservative that was all red flags to me.", ">\n\nOoo. You had me at “Former conservative.”", ">\n\nYeah. Bush era. Then the goalposts moved hard. Center left now. It’s weird. But I’m ok with it.", ">\n\nI read Globalists instead of goalposts initially. Very different vibe.", ">\n\nLol big diff. It happens to me a lot.", ">\n\nImagine what's on Ron's laptop.", ">\n\nHunter Biden's penis pic, DUH!\nThey all keep it on their drives. They seem to often reference this particular nude.", ">\n\nIt’s in the folder besides Melanie’s modeling nudes…which is fine, because who cares…neither of them are president, or wish to be president.", ">\n\nThey start off with her pics and finish with his.", ">\n\n\nShe made a deliberate choice to risk the integrity of her communications.... simply so she could shield herself from public accountability and congressional oversight. \nA system in which the political elites are not held accountable for conduct that would land the average citizen in prison is a rotten system – and one that is far different from the type of republican government envisioned by the Founding Fathers.\n\n- Ron Desantis, OpEd on Buttery Males in the Conservative Review, 2015", ">\n\nThe scariest part of that is he claims a republican government was envisioned by the founding fathers.", ">\n\nIt'S a RePuBlIc NoT a DeMoCrAcY\n^(/s)", ">\n\nI fucking hate this anti-democratic trope. \nA Republic IS a democracy. but what makes it a republic and not a monarchy or other form of private owned sovereign state is the fact that the government is a publicly accountable organization, and is necessarily held accountable to the public by the vote.\nWhat they mean when they say that is literally “we should be able to decide who gets to participate in government, not you”. Its gross authoritarianism. A republic must be accountable to the people, which is accomplished with democracy, not by to twisting words with ugly sophistry to claw back representation from people that is theirs by right.", ">\n\n\nbut what makes it a republic and not a monarchy or other form of private owned sovereign state is the fact that the government is a publicly accountable organization, and is necessarily held accountable to the public by the vote.\n\nThis isn't entirely correct. Republic only means that it has elected officials at the top, whom do not have power but wield the power of the office, and their positions are not hereditary. This is in contrast to monarchy (may not be elected but the title is hereditary) and dictatorship (not elected and the title may not be hereditary). For example the Republic of Venice had its rulers elected, but not democratically. On the other end constitutional monarchies (like the UK, Denmark) are democratic, but not a republic as their heads of state aren't elected. And there are gray areas that don't really fit in there, like the Holy Roman Empire had its emperors elected (not democratically, by rulers of member states, but still), yet not a republic or democracy.\nDemocracy tells about the source of the power the offices wield (demos - the 'mob' or people). It is contrary to monarchy (bloodline) where the confusion comes from, theocracy (god), and dictatorship (power/might/military).\nI'm not trying to contradict you here, the anti-democratic shit in the US is tiring even outside, but we need to have the best possible argument to counter all the crazies.", ">\n\nYou're entirely right, but this sort of nuance is utterly wasted on the American right. Better to just say \"a republic is a form of democracy, you absolute numpty\" and move on", ">\n\nFrom Wikipedia regarding Florida’s “Government-in-the-Sunshine law”:\n\nFlorida's Government in the Sunshine Law, commonly called the Sunshine Law, passed in 1967. It requires that all meetings of any state, county, or municipal board or commission in Florida be open to the public, and declares that actions taken at closed meetings are not binding (Section 286.011, Florida Statutes). \"Meeting\" is construed broadly, and is not confined to \"formal\" assemblages at which a ritualistic vote takes place. The legislature intended to make open the entire decision-making process by the enactment of the Sunshine Law.", ">\n\nLock\nHim\nUp\nShould be the chant.", ">\n\nButter his mails?", ">\n\nButt is males????", ">\n\nLock him up. Isn't that what they chant about private emails?", ">\n\nIt's what they chant about Buttery Males. And Hunter Biden dick pics. Like frosted flakes......Republicans think they're great", ">\n\nIf he wasn't republican he would have to face consequences.", ">\n\nSooo if they used an alias to obscure identity does that count as admission of guilt since they knowingly trying to obfuscate who was making the order?", ">\n\nIf DeSantis thinks this is a righteous cause and he's on the right side of things like he claims - why did his staff conceal their involvement at every chance?\nLock. Him. Up.", ">\n\nLock him up.", ">\n\nSo flying migrants across the country was a cry for help, because unfortunately Ron Desantis doesn't have the ability to put his thoughts into words.\nI'm still unsure what he's trying to say but I expect the best reply to him would be to fly him to Moscow and leave him there, naked on the runway.", ">\n\nEww, at least give him non-designer clothing.", ">\n\nFlorida public records laws are extraordinarily permissive, like, when I worked for the local sewer and water department as an intern in college, they warned me that I should expect every email I ever send to be public record.\nThey know this, which is why they had to use private accounts to coordinate this obviously immoral bullshit.", ">\n\nYou mean, illegal, not immoral, right?", ">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I can't attest to the legality of it, but it's immoral as fuck. And bypassing the public records laws is likely illegal as well.", ">\n\nA) They misled and was secretive because they new it was wrong.\nB) They feel justified because they think their cause is righteous... But still keep it secret.\nIf A. They're cowards.\nIf B. They're self-righteous cowards", ">\n\nArrest him immediately.", ">\n\nWhy all of the cloak and dagger when the guv was bragging days later?", ">\n\nHe probably didn’t want to tip off the media and other groups.", ">\n\nThe party of law & order is made up of liars, crooks, cheaters, and DeSantis is at the top of the list, right below Trump." ]

[ "Why that has all the hallmarks of a criminal conspiracy to commit human trafficking. Also, a pretty clear piece of evidence that the adviser knew this was a crime and took actions to conceal their identity.", ">\n\n100% !!!", ">\n\nBut remember, republicans are above the law, it says so in the Bible.", ">\n\nReagan 19:84", ">\n\n“A reading from the Book of Bush according to Trump.”", ">\n\nAnd I don't think that book is related to politics in any way", ">\n\nI’m afraid to ask now.", ">\n\nI just figured if TFG was gonna read anything, it would be a picture book, and... well, I'll let you figure out what the Book of Bush would look like to such a sleaze. ;)", ">\n\nI don't know why, but my brain immediately went to that being a pop up book and it made me laugh.", ">\n\nAlmost like they knew what they were doing was illegal and immoral.", ">\n\n\"Illegal and immoral\" is actually CPAC's 2024 platform.", ">\n\n\"We are all Domestic Terrorists\"\n-Their own fuckin scroll board at their own event.", ">\n\nWhy that isn’t a bigger deal is mind blowing for me. As a former conservative that was all red flags to me.", ">\n\nOoo. You had me at “Former conservative.”", ">\n\nYeah. Bush era. Then the goalposts moved hard. Center left now. It’s weird. But I’m ok with it.", ">\n\nI read Globalists instead of goalposts initially. Very different vibe.", ">\n\nLol big diff. It happens to me a lot.", ">\n\nImagine what's on Ron's laptop.", ">\n\nHunter Biden's penis pic, DUH!\nThey all keep it on their drives. They seem to often reference this particular nude.", ">\n\nIt’s in the folder besides Melanie’s modeling nudes…which is fine, because who cares…neither of them are president, or wish to be president.", ">\n\nThey start off with her pics and finish with his.", ">\n\n\nShe made a deliberate choice to risk the integrity of her communications.... simply so she could shield herself from public accountability and congressional oversight. \nA system in which the political elites are not held accountable for conduct that would land the average citizen in prison is a rotten system – and one that is far different from the type of republican government envisioned by the Founding Fathers.\n\n- Ron Desantis, OpEd on Buttery Males in the Conservative Review, 2015", ">\n\nThe scariest part of that is he claims a republican government was envisioned by the founding fathers.", ">\n\nIt'S a RePuBlIc NoT a DeMoCrAcY\n^(/s)", ">\n\nI fucking hate this anti-democratic trope. \nA Republic IS a democracy. but what makes it a republic and not a monarchy or other form of private owned sovereign state is the fact that the government is a publicly accountable organization, and is necessarily held accountable to the public by the vote.\nWhat they mean when they say that is literally “we should be able to decide who gets to participate in government, not you”. Its gross authoritarianism. A republic must be accountable to the people, which is accomplished with democracy, not by to twisting words with ugly sophistry to claw back representation from people that is theirs by right.", ">\n\n\nbut what makes it a republic and not a monarchy or other form of private owned sovereign state is the fact that the government is a publicly accountable organization, and is necessarily held accountable to the public by the vote.\n\nThis isn't entirely correct. Republic only means that it has elected officials at the top, whom do not have power but wield the power of the office, and their positions are not hereditary. This is in contrast to monarchy (may not be elected but the title is hereditary) and dictatorship (not elected and the title may not be hereditary). For example the Republic of Venice had its rulers elected, but not democratically. On the other end constitutional monarchies (like the UK, Denmark) are democratic, but not a republic as their heads of state aren't elected. And there are gray areas that don't really fit in there, like the Holy Roman Empire had its emperors elected (not democratically, by rulers of member states, but still), yet not a republic or democracy.\nDemocracy tells about the source of the power the offices wield (demos - the 'mob' or people). It is contrary to monarchy (bloodline) where the confusion comes from, theocracy (god), and dictatorship (power/might/military).\nI'm not trying to contradict you here, the anti-democratic shit in the US is tiring even outside, but we need to have the best possible argument to counter all the crazies.", ">\n\nYou're entirely right, but this sort of nuance is utterly wasted on the American right. Better to just say \"a republic is a form of democracy, you absolute numpty\" and move on", ">\n\nFrom Wikipedia regarding Florida’s “Government-in-the-Sunshine law”:\n\nFlorida's Government in the Sunshine Law, commonly called the Sunshine Law, passed in 1967. It requires that all meetings of any state, county, or municipal board or commission in Florida be open to the public, and declares that actions taken at closed meetings are not binding (Section 286.011, Florida Statutes). \"Meeting\" is construed broadly, and is not confined to \"formal\" assemblages at which a ritualistic vote takes place. The legislature intended to make open the entire decision-making process by the enactment of the Sunshine Law.", ">\n\nLock\nHim\nUp\nShould be the chant.", ">\n\nButter his mails?", ">\n\nButt is males????", ">\n\nLock him up. Isn't that what they chant about private emails?", ">\n\nIt's what they chant about Buttery Males. And Hunter Biden dick pics. Like frosted flakes......Republicans think they're great", ">\n\nIf he wasn't republican he would have to face consequences.", ">\n\nSooo if they used an alias to obscure identity does that count as admission of guilt since they knowingly trying to obfuscate who was making the order?", ">\n\nIf DeSantis thinks this is a righteous cause and he's on the right side of things like he claims - why did his staff conceal their involvement at every chance?\nLock. Him. Up.", ">\n\nLock him up.", ">\n\nSo flying migrants across the country was a cry for help, because unfortunately Ron Desantis doesn't have the ability to put his thoughts into words.\nI'm still unsure what he's trying to say but I expect the best reply to him would be to fly him to Moscow and leave him there, naked on the runway.", ">\n\nEww, at least give him non-designer clothing.", ">\n\nFlorida public records laws are extraordinarily permissive, like, when I worked for the local sewer and water department as an intern in college, they warned me that I should expect every email I ever send to be public record.\nThey know this, which is why they had to use private accounts to coordinate this obviously immoral bullshit.", ">\n\nYou mean, illegal, not immoral, right?", ">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I can't attest to the legality of it, but it's immoral as fuck. And bypassing the public records laws is likely illegal as well.", ">\n\nA) They misled and was secretive because they new it was wrong.\nB) They feel justified because they think their cause is righteous... But still keep it secret.\nIf A. They're cowards.\nIf B. They're self-righteous cowards", ">\n\nArrest him immediately.", ">\n\nWhy all of the cloak and dagger when the guv was bragging days later?", ">\n\nHe probably didn’t want to tip off the media and other groups.", ">\n\nThe party of law & order is made up of liars, crooks, cheaters, and DeSantis is at the top of the list, right below Trump.", ">\n\nThat’s what… criminals do" ]

[ "Why that has all the hallmarks of a criminal conspiracy to commit human trafficking. Also, a pretty clear piece of evidence that the adviser knew this was a crime and took actions to conceal their identity.", ">\n\n100% !!!", ">\n\nBut remember, republicans are above the law, it says so in the Bible.", ">\n\nReagan 19:84", ">\n\n“A reading from the Book of Bush according to Trump.”", ">\n\nAnd I don't think that book is related to politics in any way", ">\n\nI’m afraid to ask now.", ">\n\nI just figured if TFG was gonna read anything, it would be a picture book, and... well, I'll let you figure out what the Book of Bush would look like to such a sleaze. ;)", ">\n\nI don't know why, but my brain immediately went to that being a pop up book and it made me laugh.", ">\n\nAlmost like they knew what they were doing was illegal and immoral.", ">\n\n\"Illegal and immoral\" is actually CPAC's 2024 platform.", ">\n\n\"We are all Domestic Terrorists\"\n-Their own fuckin scroll board at their own event.", ">\n\nWhy that isn’t a bigger deal is mind blowing for me. As a former conservative that was all red flags to me.", ">\n\nOoo. You had me at “Former conservative.”", ">\n\nYeah. Bush era. Then the goalposts moved hard. Center left now. It’s weird. But I’m ok with it.", ">\n\nI read Globalists instead of goalposts initially. Very different vibe.", ">\n\nLol big diff. It happens to me a lot.", ">\n\nImagine what's on Ron's laptop.", ">\n\nHunter Biden's penis pic, DUH!\nThey all keep it on their drives. They seem to often reference this particular nude.", ">\n\nIt’s in the folder besides Melanie’s modeling nudes…which is fine, because who cares…neither of them are president, or wish to be president.", ">\n\nThey start off with her pics and finish with his.", ">\n\n\nShe made a deliberate choice to risk the integrity of her communications.... simply so she could shield herself from public accountability and congressional oversight. \nA system in which the political elites are not held accountable for conduct that would land the average citizen in prison is a rotten system – and one that is far different from the type of republican government envisioned by the Founding Fathers.\n\n- Ron Desantis, OpEd on Buttery Males in the Conservative Review, 2015", ">\n\nThe scariest part of that is he claims a republican government was envisioned by the founding fathers.", ">\n\nIt'S a RePuBlIc NoT a DeMoCrAcY\n^(/s)", ">\n\nI fucking hate this anti-democratic trope. \nA Republic IS a democracy. but what makes it a republic and not a monarchy or other form of private owned sovereign state is the fact that the government is a publicly accountable organization, and is necessarily held accountable to the public by the vote.\nWhat they mean when they say that is literally “we should be able to decide who gets to participate in government, not you”. Its gross authoritarianism. A republic must be accountable to the people, which is accomplished with democracy, not by to twisting words with ugly sophistry to claw back representation from people that is theirs by right.", ">\n\n\nbut what makes it a republic and not a monarchy or other form of private owned sovereign state is the fact that the government is a publicly accountable organization, and is necessarily held accountable to the public by the vote.\n\nThis isn't entirely correct. Republic only means that it has elected officials at the top, whom do not have power but wield the power of the office, and their positions are not hereditary. This is in contrast to monarchy (may not be elected but the title is hereditary) and dictatorship (not elected and the title may not be hereditary). For example the Republic of Venice had its rulers elected, but not democratically. On the other end constitutional monarchies (like the UK, Denmark) are democratic, but not a republic as their heads of state aren't elected. And there are gray areas that don't really fit in there, like the Holy Roman Empire had its emperors elected (not democratically, by rulers of member states, but still), yet not a republic or democracy.\nDemocracy tells about the source of the power the offices wield (demos - the 'mob' or people). It is contrary to monarchy (bloodline) where the confusion comes from, theocracy (god), and dictatorship (power/might/military).\nI'm not trying to contradict you here, the anti-democratic shit in the US is tiring even outside, but we need to have the best possible argument to counter all the crazies.", ">\n\nYou're entirely right, but this sort of nuance is utterly wasted on the American right. Better to just say \"a republic is a form of democracy, you absolute numpty\" and move on", ">\n\nFrom Wikipedia regarding Florida’s “Government-in-the-Sunshine law”:\n\nFlorida's Government in the Sunshine Law, commonly called the Sunshine Law, passed in 1967. It requires that all meetings of any state, county, or municipal board or commission in Florida be open to the public, and declares that actions taken at closed meetings are not binding (Section 286.011, Florida Statutes). \"Meeting\" is construed broadly, and is not confined to \"formal\" assemblages at which a ritualistic vote takes place. The legislature intended to make open the entire decision-making process by the enactment of the Sunshine Law.", ">\n\nLock\nHim\nUp\nShould be the chant.", ">\n\nButter his mails?", ">\n\nButt is males????", ">\n\nLock him up. Isn't that what they chant about private emails?", ">\n\nIt's what they chant about Buttery Males. And Hunter Biden dick pics. Like frosted flakes......Republicans think they're great", ">\n\nIf he wasn't republican he would have to face consequences.", ">\n\nSooo if they used an alias to obscure identity does that count as admission of guilt since they knowingly trying to obfuscate who was making the order?", ">\n\nIf DeSantis thinks this is a righteous cause and he's on the right side of things like he claims - why did his staff conceal their involvement at every chance?\nLock. Him. Up.", ">\n\nLock him up.", ">\n\nSo flying migrants across the country was a cry for help, because unfortunately Ron Desantis doesn't have the ability to put his thoughts into words.\nI'm still unsure what he's trying to say but I expect the best reply to him would be to fly him to Moscow and leave him there, naked on the runway.", ">\n\nEww, at least give him non-designer clothing.", ">\n\nFlorida public records laws are extraordinarily permissive, like, when I worked for the local sewer and water department as an intern in college, they warned me that I should expect every email I ever send to be public record.\nThey know this, which is why they had to use private accounts to coordinate this obviously immoral bullshit.", ">\n\nYou mean, illegal, not immoral, right?", ">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I can't attest to the legality of it, but it's immoral as fuck. And bypassing the public records laws is likely illegal as well.", ">\n\nA) They misled and was secretive because they new it was wrong.\nB) They feel justified because they think their cause is righteous... But still keep it secret.\nIf A. They're cowards.\nIf B. They're self-righteous cowards", ">\n\nArrest him immediately.", ">\n\nWhy all of the cloak and dagger when the guv was bragging days later?", ">\n\nHe probably didn’t want to tip off the media and other groups.", ">\n\nThe party of law & order is made up of liars, crooks, cheaters, and DeSantis is at the top of the list, right below Trump.", ">\n\nThat’s what… criminals do", ">\n\nCriminals…uh…find a way." ]